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Author Topic: After The Game: Bombers & TiCats 9/27/2019  (Read 3440 times)
rubanski
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« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2019, 08:58:58 PM »

agreed...

but based on what you witnessed tonight, would you be surprised to see that at the end of it all that:

1. total yards at the end, 415 to 402...
2. time of possession, 27:11 Hamilton, 32:49 Winnipeg...
3. we held Hamilton to only 70 yards in the 2nd half...
4. Streveler threw for over 300 yards, first time this year for the Bombers...
5. Lawler some how during the game had 144 yards receiving...

just watching the game I would have bet that items 1 thru 4 were lies... true story...

Some surprises for sure. Hamilton let us put up the last 70 or so yards in prevent D at the end. If we get a TD instead of Strev throwing that terrible pick in the 4th, it's a real close game.
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« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2019, 09:00:57 PM »

Some surprises for sure. Hamilton let us put up the last 70 or so yards in prevent D at the end. If we get a TD instead of Strev throwing that terrible pick in the 4th, it's a real close game.

The biggest surprise is the 5 1/2 minute TOP advantage we had. Part of that was due to quick / easy long yardage plays for Hamilton.
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« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2019, 09:18:02 PM »

The reason it's playcalling when no long passes are attempted is because it's pretty clear Lapo/MOS have told Strev not to throw deep (except on special occasions like the doomed one to Adams).  Any deep ("go") routes for us now are just decoys.  HAM knows it, so they have their DBs cheat up to cover the run and short game.

In the case of the last game the lack of deep balls could be they are the last reads in the progression and if the O'line can't provide enough protection there is no time to get to those reads.
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« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2019, 09:26:13 PM »

The biggest surprise is the 5 1/2 minute TOP advantage we had. Part of that was due to quick / easy long yardage plays for Hamilton.
Actually the TOP doesn't surprise me. Remember we had that long first drive that used about 7 minutes and Hamilton had quick drives with explosion plays. And the TD after the interception that sealed the game wasn't very long. This is why they say that statistics are for losers.
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« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2019, 06:13:49 AM »

Isn't it just possible that after 4 years of seeing Richie Hall's tricks that other teams have figured out how to beat his defense? ie. Move the ball quickly to nullify our D-line then exploit the soft secondary.

Isn't it just possible that after 3 years of seeing Lapo's tricks that other teams have figured out how to beat his offense? ie. Stack the box, string the plays out horizontally and force Lapo to call a vertical game for 60 minutes.

O'Shea isn't concerned. He looks at the film to see where things have gone wrong and he then instructs his coaches and players.

That works exactly as long as it takes for the other team to adjust to what we're doing. Neither Lapo nor Hall make the counter moves with the same regularity as their competition. Our entire game plan is predicated on scoring early and often until adjustments are made and then trying to hang on.

It was working early in the season against the weaker teams. Lately though, when it matters (last Q against Montreal and first 2 Qs against Hamilton) the good teams are scoring on us at a 60-point-a-game clip. We are scoring on them at a 13-point-a-game clip.

The good teams are capable of making the right adjustments to what we do and they make those adjustments multiple times throughout the game. Us, not so much.

I'd lay it all at the feet of Hall and Lapo except for one thing. They take their orders from the head coach. I suspect he's the one trying to stubbornly hammer square pegs into round holes.
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« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2019, 07:56:01 AM »

In the case of the last game the lack of deep balls could be they are the last reads in the progression and if the O'line can't provide enough protection there is no time to get to those reads.

If the go routes are last reads, then that is a major failing of our O plan.  BLM always says he favors the deep balls first.  On a go route you usually know you've got the play as soon as the receiver has gone about 20 yards past the LOS.  It's not like you need time for the receiver to go 50 yards down before you know the read is good.  The deep ball read should take half a second longer than the shorter reads.  You might also have to sit in the pocket and be willing to take the hit for another half second before you chuck it, too.

Maybe that's Strev's problem: he never wants to take a hit in the pocket, he always wants to run.  I don't think I've ever seen Strev take a hit in the pocket while waiting to make a pass.  Might be a common problem among "running" QBs, whereas wimpy pocket-passers (R.Ray) have no other option than to just sit there make the pass and take the hit.
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