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Author Topic: After The Game: Bombers & Roughriders, THE BB/The Rematch 9/7/2019  (Read 3747 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2019, 01:54:30 AM »

He was much more well-rounded this week. He was actually a threat as a passer. That truly changes things for him.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2019, 03:57:32 AM »

His accuracy and decision making are lacking. He?s ok and got the job done thankfully but he?s not a full time starter.
His completion percentage today was 71%....and he threw two beautiful balls to Peterman and Augustine for TDs.   Then he ran the ball for a first down when we were 2nd and 17 from our 3 YL.    He made some good throws over the middle as well on that first drive.    Yes he overthrew Woli a few times but he was under pressure on the first one.    He runs angry and smacked a few Riders in the mouth on that second drive which energized the entire bench.   He played well enough in the LDC to win it but our D was unable to hold them after having them pinned at the 5YL.   He could quite easily be 3-0 as a starter.   So what more can you possibly ask of you back up QB??   Both Matt Dunigan and Henry Burris think he will be a great QB in this league....I'm going with their wisdom of the game and judgement of football talent!
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2019, 07:50:11 AM »

the next series? all I can say is "Streveler The Leveler"... such incredible running... then to cap it off with a TD toss to Petermann, and a pretty throw as well, a lot of touch on that ball... you have to love it... this is what Streveler brings to the game that few can duplicate... I will say though, the second over throw to Woli... not a good look...

Riders should watch our videos!  In the "Bomber Blitz" video from the day before the game they showed Strev practising that exact play -- soft touch throw through the uprights!  That exact play!  Like they were practising that as their go-to TD play for this game.

I love how it was to Petermann, who probably draws the weakest defender in man.

I'm going to give a game ball to an unlikely suspect here... the O line... whatever they worked on this week in practice it sure paid off... It helped to show what Streveler can do passing when he has time to throw the ball.

OL was much stronger and fixed many problems.  Gray & Desjar looked legit, and showed that both will one day be our valid, non-injury starters.  However, Micah & Hughes looked deflated compared to the LDC.  I think they pick their battles, and winning in the 'Jina was simply more important than winning in WPG.  And I don't mean they lost morale partway through the game: I mean they started with less energy overall.  Then they got deflated.

Also, Dickerson the Lesser's interview after halftime hinted that they had basically given up hope of winning.  I thought that very odd.  If we got 28 in a half, so could they in the next half.  That should have been the Greenie message.  But Dickerson was like "play for pride" blah blah.  No wonder they came out and continued losing if their braintrust had given up any hope of winning!

Sask is good, we love to hate them....but in all honesty they are a good team

No they're not.  They're an OK team with a good D, decent cheatin' ST, and mediocre O.  The SSK O we saw today is the real SSK O.  It's all short passes, wide outs and Fajito runs.  Heck, at least in '18 they had a vicious run game (it's all they had)!  What was their run game vs WPG in 2 games?  Nowhere to be seen for the most part.

I love how they said WPG has been practising ways to attack that Fajito roll out move to escape pressure.  He still beat us on 3-4 plays, but we got him on another 2-3.  We'll keep honing it!

Now, if Trevor is out of EDM long term, SSK could take 2 extra wins, jacking their remaining win count to possibly 4.  But they won't win more than 4 games!  That could put them ahead of EDM by year's end meaning: WPG CGY SSK west seed.  But if Trevor is back, it's off to the east crossover for SSK, where western teams go to die.

What a great all-around game! So nice to see the team beat up the mouthy riders! One of my favourite moments was from Proulx...?There are two penalties on the play...? and then ends with ?This is a wash? and walks away. Mic drop, lol!

I'm pretty sure Francais does not have a literal equivalent to "a wash", so kudos to Proulx for picking up on one of our better Anglicisms!  I'm sure our French Winnipeg friends will correct me if I'm wrong...

When I saw the ref was Proulx I was thanking the heavens above (that it wasn't Foxcroft), then did a double-take, as I never thought I'd be thanking anyone for Proulx!
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2019, 08:59:16 AM »

Hey, 66 (and everyone!), check out the 1Q6:45 play.  We have 5 OL + Miller + Bailey blocking, interesting in and of itself because I've been told the CFL doesn't utilize 7 pass blockers  Grin Grin

But I digress: the interesting part of this play is at the snap, the 4DL+HB jump into the neutral zone, as you'd expect, but they aren't engaging our guys.  They hang there dancing for a very short period waiting for... the fake handoff to JA!  As soon as they've sensed it's fake and Strev spins around (360!) and still has the ball, the 5 SSK pass rushers turn on the jets and gun it for Strev.  Luckily our 7 blockers were amazing and there was zero pressure.

Why'd they wait?  Of course everyone here knows.  Respect the run game.  JA had done 2-3 decent rushes before this.  SSK had to wait to see what play to defend because we have a great run game.  That slowed them down maybe a second in their pass rush, and gave Strev more than enough time.

Ok, so what, this is common knowledge.  But I just found this one instance to be such a perfect illustration of the run game effect on DLs.  You really couldn't script it any better.  It's so darn beautiful.  I bet Lapo was very pleased to see that as well.

This is what guys like BC, and TOR and even HAM (with STE out) and SSK (lately) are missing with their no run game.  I guess that's the "pin their ears back" effect as the DLs don't have to wait that extra second before attacking.
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2019, 11:19:59 AM »

Hey, 66 (and everyone!), check out the 1Q6:45 play.  We have 5 OL + Miller + Bailey blocking, interesting in and of itself because I've been told the CFL doesn't utilize 7 pass blockers  Grin Grin

But I digress: the interesting part of this play is at the snap, the 4DL+HB jump into the neutral zone, as you'd expect, but they aren't engaging our guys.  They hang there dancing for a very short period waiting for... the fake handoff to JA!  As soon as they've sensed it's fake and Strev spins around (360!) and still has the ball, the 5 SSK pass rushers turn on the jets and gun it for Strev.  Luckily our 7 blockers were amazing and there was zero pressure.

Why'd they wait?  Of course everyone here knows.  Respect the run game.  JA had done 2-3 decent rushes before this.  SSK had to wait to see what play to defend because we have a great run game.  That slowed them down maybe a second in their pass rush, and gave Strev more than enough time.

Ok, so what, this is common knowledge.  But I just found this one instance to be such a perfect illustration of the run game effect on DLs.  You really couldn't script it any better.  It's so darn beautiful.  I bet Lapo was very pleased to see that as well.

This is what guys like BC, and TOR and even HAM (with STE out) and SSK (lately) are missing with their no run game.  I guess that's the "pin their ears back" effect as the DLs don't have to wait that extra second before attacking.


This is perfect.  It's the kind of stuff you miss when at the game, that's why I PVR the game and watch it when I get home.  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2019, 12:05:46 PM »

I disagree techno, IMO Sask is a a good team. I also think that this season has seen some great play from unknown, back-ups and newbies to the league at the Qb position, and I include Fajardo in that group. IMO I believe he has been a great surprise and yes he has areas to improve on but he shows great promise. I honestly believe that if Collaros stayed healthy the Riders would not be as good as they are today.
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2019, 01:09:29 PM »

Excellent game by the Bombers. Pretty much total domination. No Harris, no Nichols, no Whitehead, no Demski, no problem.

Riders are a middle of the pack team that is dangerous when they're on. I expect that we're fighting with Calgary for 1st by the end of the year.
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2019, 01:21:39 PM »

Another fun observation, check out "the sack" by Willie. You know the one where he mysteriously make the o-line disappear and hits the QB causing a fumble.

Pre Snap:
Fenner lines up giving the WR a big fat cushion for coverage.
After Fajardo looks away from him, Fenner sprints up in to press coverage before the snap.
Meanwhile Willie was lined up on the edge, but sneaks sneaks in between the tackles.

After the snap:
At least Hecht & one LB blitz
I think Fajardo sees trouble coming, his blitz read must have been to Fenner's guy. He looks there, and Fenner is on the rec like white on rice.
Fajardo says "oh poop" and eats a sack/fumble.

Fun seeing the creativity to create confusion.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2019, 01:25:40 PM »

Sask is an average team that gives above average effort every game and their fan support at home makes them hard to beat in their barn. I see a wpg-cgy-edm-sask-bc finish in the west
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2019, 03:16:51 PM »

Another fun observation, check out "the sack" by Willie. You know the one where he mysteriously make the o-line disappear and hits the QB causing a fumble.

Pre Snap:
Fenner lines up giving the WR a big fat cushion for coverage.
After Fajardo looks away from him, Fenner sprints up in to press coverage before the snap.
Meanwhile Willie was lined up on the edge, but sneaks sneaks in between the tackles.

After the snap:
At least Hecht & one LB blitz
I think Fajardo sees trouble coming, his blitz read must have been to Fenner's guy. He looks there, and Fenner is on the rec like white on rice.
Fajardo says "oh poop" and eats a sack/fumble.

Fun seeing the creativity to create confusion.

That's exactly how all of our DB's should be playing their receiver when we have a blitz dialled up. You know the QB will be throwing quickly once he sees the blitz coming.
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2019, 03:27:27 PM »

for those that were lucky enough to go to the game yesterday, you missed a cool little story about Streveler and his pro day... seems that he forgot his shoes when he went so he went to the 'lost and found' and found the closet pair of shoes that fit him, a size 11... however he actually wears size 13... so the shoes were 2 sizes too small and they were these odd high tops (he called them Spiderman shoes), yet he still ran a 4.47 in the 40....

after his pro day he went and order another pair just like them but in the right size... the same high top type of shoe he wears on game day now as the ones he found in the lost in found box... lol... 
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2019, 04:29:07 PM »

Excellent game by the Bombers. Pretty much total domination. No Harris, no Nichols, no Whitehead, no Demski, no problem.

Riders are a middle of the pack team that is dangerous when they're on. I expect that we're fighting with Calgary for 1st by the end of the year.
Fjardo's quick rise as a starting QB was unexpected and he has propelled them into being s contender this season.    Streveler otoh has also kept us in first place with his leadership and grit and once his passing game rounds into form....watch out!   
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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2019, 04:37:31 PM »

The thing IMO about Strev. Is at 24 he has a-lot of live game action. He has certain areas to work on, but again being only 24 he could take another couple seasons to work on his weaknesses and still only be 26. IF He can improve on his weaknesses and continue to get live speed action, the game will slow down and he COULD become a long term starter in this league.
Maybe stats junkie could help out but in relation to other 24 year old qbs he I would guess has to be the top of the charts for live snap counts.
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« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2019, 05:13:34 PM »

The thing IMO about Strev. Is at 24 he has a-lot of live game action. He has certain areas to work on, but again being only 24 he could take another couple seasons to work on his weaknesses and still only be 26. IF He can improve on his weaknesses and continue to get live speed action, the game will slow down and he COULD become a long term starter in this league.
Maybe stats junkie could help out but in relation to other 24 year old qbs he I would guess has to be the top of the charts for live snap counts.
My feelings precisely.....his youth, tremendous athleticism, intelligence and leadership qualities are definitely positive factors in his development as a starting QB
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2019, 05:31:57 PM »

Sask is an average team that gives above average effort every game and their fan support at home makes them hard to beat in their barn. I see a wpg-cgy-edm-sask-bc finish in the west

I think Edmonton is regressing weekly. I suspect Edmonton is heading east for the playoffs, only because BC and Ottawa are so terrible.
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