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Author Topic: Win is a win, but we were lucky tonight.  (Read 10410 times)
thunderNlightning
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« on: August 09, 2019, 02:20:50 AM »

Offense didn?t put up an offensive touchdown tonight. Grant scored two punt return TD?s which is rare. Scored 14 of our points there. No BLM tonight which would maybe been a big difference.

Kudos to our defense for stepping up and Harris pounding the ball late.
Win is a win, but we are darn lucky and no thanks to Nichols for this W. again very subpar.
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3rdand1.5
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2019, 02:24:22 AM »

Overall a great team win.
The debate is..is it Nichols or Lapo... because as mentioned above take away special teams return tds and we only had Harris and no passing game on offence . That is not good enough
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2019, 02:25:10 AM »

STs won the game. Defence was pretty good at times too but it was tooooooo close
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2019, 02:27:26 AM »

Games like this are hard on the old ticker.

No we didn't put an offensive TD but Calgary only had 19 yards more of offense. We won TOP by 33:41 and that's remarkable. When you consider scoring twice on punt returns meant Calgary got immediate offensive series.

Nichols completed 81.8% of his passes with only 4 incompletions. One pass in the end zone to Woli should have been caught. One pass to Matthews on the sideline should have been caught. Probably about 40 yards more was there for the taking. Plus it would have continued the drive in the case of teh Matthews drop.

I remember one grounder to Lawler but announcers felt Nichols threw low due to where Roberson  was positioned.

The worst pass was after the last Calgary TD where we went formula short run to Harris and a too short pass to Woli IIRC.

We have to improve what we do in those situations. Everybody knew what was going to be run in that series.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2019, 02:30:24 AM »

Grant had a good 1st game in spite of the fumble. It wasn't just because he scored on long returns. He showed very good vision and was making speed cuts like we've seen from Whitehead.

Again. That's an instinctive talent.
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2019, 02:33:19 AM »

Games like this are hard on the old ticker.

No we didn't put an offensive TD but Calgary only had 19 yards more of offense. We won TOP by 33:41 and that's remarkable. When you consider scoring twice on punt returns meant Calgary got immediate offensive series.

Nichols completed 81.8% of his passes with only 4 incompletions. One pass in the end zone to Woli should have been caught. One pass to Matthews on the sideline should have been caught. Probably about 40 yards more was there for the taking. Plus it would have continued the drive in the case of teh Matthews drop.

I remember one grounder to Lawler but announcers felt Nichols threw low due to where Roberson  was positioned.

The worst pass was after the last Calgary TD where we went formula short run to Harris and a too short pass to Woli IIRC.

We have to improve what we do in those situations. Everybody knew what was going to be run in that series.

Agree, our problem is teams are getting the film on us and just know how predictable our play calling is.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2019, 02:35:42 AM »

Games like this are hard on the old ticker.

No we didn't put an offensive TD but Calgary only had 19 yards more of offense. We won TOP by 33:41 and that's remarkable. When you consider scoring twice on punt returns meant Calgary got immediate offensive series.

Nichols completed 81.8% of his passes with only 4 incompletions. One pass in the end zone to Woli should have been caught. One pass to Matthews on the sideline should have been caught. Probably about 40 yards more was there for the taking. Plus it would have continued the drive in the case of teh Matthews drop.
1. The yardage differential isnt too big because Harris. Nichols had 170 vs Arbuckles 260. The running game is where the difference was made

2. Todays game shows why completion % isn't a great stat to follow. Yes Nichols had 4 incompletions. But he also was hardly pushing downfield. A good chunk of his throws were as safe as they get.

3. The Matthews drop was a statistical difference maker but you could argue the same for some Calgary drops, the INT at the end or even the wide open TD saved by the goalpost. Stuff happens.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2019, 02:38:14 AM »

YOU THINK WE WERE LUCKY!!
GOD Nichols brutal again!
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2019, 02:38:26 AM »

Games like this are hard on the old ticker.

No we didn't put an offensive TD but Calgary only had 19 yards more of offense. We won TOP by 33:41 and that's remarkable. When you consider scoring twice on punt returns meant Calgary got immediate offensive series.

Nichols completed 81.8% of his passes with only 4 incompletions. One pass in the end zone to Woli should have been caught. One pass to Matthews on the sideline should have been caught. Probably about 40 yards more was there for the taking. Plus it would have continued the drive in the case of teh Matthews drop.

I remember one grounder to Lawler but announcers felt Nichols threw low due to where Roberson  was positioned.

The worst pass was after the last Calgary TD where we went formula short run to Harris and a too short pass to Woli IIRC.

We have to improve what we do in those situations. Everybody knew what was going to be run in that series.
Every QB has passes dropped. You can't adjust stats for that, and it's not as if this game is an outlier in terms of a pretty anemic passing game. Most QBs will have a high completion percentage when all their doing is finding check downs within 3 yards of the line of scrimmage, and praying for YAC, and most won't throw many interceptions either.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2019, 02:40:28 AM »

Nichols cannot handle press period!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2019, 02:40:53 AM »

Returning kicks for tds twice in a game is rather rare. But not lucky. We deserved this win. If anything, it shouldn't have been as close as it was.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2019, 02:41:51 AM »

Winnipeggers whine too much. Best team in the league and you guys still complain non-stop.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2019, 02:42:28 AM »

1. The yardage differential isnt too big because Harris. Nichols had 170 vs Arbuckles 260. The running game is where the difference was made

2. Todays game shows why completion % isn't a great stat to follow. Yes Nichols had 4 incompletions. But he also was hardly pushing downfield. A good chunk of his throws were as safe as they get.

3. The Matthews drop was a statistical difference maker but you could argue the same for some Calgary drops, the INT at the end or even the wide open TD saved by the goalpost. Stuff happens.

Woli dropped a pass in the end zone. You can't blame Nichols for that or the Matthews drop. He was throwing some completions longer than 10 yards.

Of course every QB has dropped passes. I'm just saying you can't put the blame on Nichols for those in this game.

In the broadcast pre game Sanchez said he initially put the blame last week on Nichols in the 2nd half. However when he watched the game film he saw the Argos putting enormous pressure quickly not allowing Nichols time.

If you aren't bias I think you'll see the same issues this week particularly once Speller got injured.

Arbuckle had passes dropped as well but we're discussing Nichols output on two passes that normally are caught. Both would have been difference makers and a Woli TD instead of a FG would have been significant.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2019, 02:45:55 AM »

Winnipeggers whine too much. Best team in the league and you guys still complain non-stop.

I for one like the 2 points - what I do not like is a QB that can not go down the field deep and an OC that does not try anything other than dump passes to our RB's. Take the two points but know that we do not have a starting QB that we can count on for a win when we need it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2019, 02:55:53 AM »

1. The yardage differential isnt too big because Harris. Nichols had 170 vs Arbuckles 260. The running game is where the difference was made

2. Todays game shows why completion % isn't a great stat to follow. Yes Nichols had 4 incompletions. But he also was hardly pushing downfield. A good chunk of his throws were as safe as they get.

3. The Matthews drop was a statistical difference maker but you could argue the same for some Calgary drops, the INT at the end or even the wide open TD saved by the goalpost. Stuff happens.

If you don't like the completion % stat then consider we're 6 - 2 with the best record in the CFL. We've beaten the Stamps, Esks and Lions.

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