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Author Topic: A Look At The Receiving Corps - Ed Tait  (Read 19232 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2019, 04:41:26 AM »

Exactly. How is it, all the other teams can find ?unknown? talent in receivers and we can?t. Bc found burnham, Calgary Rogers, Edmonton Walker, Hamilton banks, heck even Montreal found this Lewis dude!!! ...and we ve found...... ahhhhh nobody since like milt stegal days!!! C mon man, this is downright ridiculous!!!
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2019, 05:29:37 AM »

Exactly. How is it, all the other teams can find ?unknown? talent in receivers and we can?t. Bc found burnham, Calgary Rogers, Edmonton Walker, Hamilton banks, heck even Montreal found this Lewis dude!!! ...and we ve found...... ahhhhh nobody since like milt stegal days!!! C mon man, this is downright ridiculous!!!

Ahhhhhh

Darwin Adams
Chris Matthews
Terrence Edwards
Clarence Denmark

To name a few.
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2019, 06:16:40 AM »

Our American receivers are disgustingly bad.

We need two things:
- one of Mitchell, Spencer, Duke, Zylstra or Matthews
- a rookie to perform well enough to upgrade on our third USWR spot.

If the last few years are any indication, I wouldn't hold my breath on that. The team needs a proven #1 receiver - sooner than later.

Ahhhhhh

Darwin Adams
Chris Matthews
Terrence Edwards
Clarence Denmark

To name a few.

Adams was an Argonauts' find. He signed here as a FA in 2015.
Edwards was also an Argonauts' find. He signed here as a FA in 2007.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2019, 06:23:44 AM »

As a unit our Canadian receivers are right up at the top of the CFL. On the other hand our America talent is lacking.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2019, 08:10:37 AM »

Ahhhhhh

Chris Matthews
Clarence Denmark

To name a few.

I think Matthews was the only Rogers/Zylstra-level find in the last 10 years?!!  Denmark was up there, but not star #1 GC-winning Rogers-style great.

I think you have to go back to Stegall to find another true CFL-top receiver find by WPG scouts, right?  That's a horrible batting average.  However, we are getting waaay better at scouting D talent.  Maybe the current scouts should handle D and we hire a new guy to scout O.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2019, 11:53:26 AM »

I think Matthews was the only Rogers/Zylstra-level find in the last 10 years?!!  Denmark was up there, but not star #1 GC-winning Rogers-style great.

I think you have to go back to Stegall to find another true CFL-top receiver find by WPG scouts, right?  That's a horrible batting average.  However, we are getting waaay better at scouting D talent.  Maybe the current scouts should handle D and we hire a new guy to scout O.


Last year we didn't really get much benefit from Rigmaiden's scouting because it generally takes scouts a year to build up their prospect lists when they change teams. We may see an improvement in some areas of our scouting with Rigmaiden having a full year on the job now.
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2019, 12:14:24 PM »

His name is Darvin Adams.

Darwin Adams?
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2019, 01:22:42 PM »

How do you know they are scary bad?? We have no idea if a couple of these new imports impress and end up being great players.

You can't just keep signing recycled players until you say you have a great set of guys.

We do not. Maybe this is the year we finally find some great players at the position. However, this was the import list of 2018:

Darvin Adams
Weston Dressler
Adarius Bowman
Ryan Lankford
Chris Givens
Myles White
A.J Coney
Donteea Dye
Dominique Reed
Tony Stevens
Corey Washington

This was the import list of 2017:

Darvin Adams
Weston Dressler
Clarence Denmark
Kenny Stafford
TJ Thorpe
Gerrard Sheppard
Kieren Duncan
Quinshad Davis
TJ Lowder
Larry Raper

On paper, our import receivers would be among the weakest in the league. Outside of Darvin, the 2019 list has little CFL experience. Kenbrell Thompkins was probably our most impactful find last year and he had 421 receiving yards and 1 TD. "A lot of potential" could easily describe the lists of the last three years. Call a spade a spade, this is one area of the football club where we struggle, and have for the past several years. Somehow it's gotten worse this year. At least so far.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2019, 01:30:05 PM »

Ahhhhhh

Darwin Adams
Chris Matthews
Terrence Edwards
Clarence Denmark

To name a few.
That's four in the past, what, 10 years? Edmonton has found Walker, Mitchell, William's and Zylstra in half that
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2019, 01:31:40 PM »

That's four in the past, what, 10 years? Edmonton has found Walker, Mitchell, William's and Zylstra in half that

Except it's not four. Adams was an Argo find and Edwards was an Alouette find.

Matthews and Denmark were Joe Mack finds.
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2019, 01:38:29 PM »

In my opinion part of the problem with us not finding/having a game breaking receiver is because we don't give a guy a chance, or use anybody to be that type of receiver..Darvin gets a few deep shots here and there and the odd time we send a guy downfield on a post or fade, but rarely do we do anything to have guys layered in depth, moving in full stride or sent to open spaces isolating one on one.

Pretty much everything is within the hashes to a guy who is not moving, or settling down underneath coverage, or a swing or short out to a guy with pretty much all the defenders in front of him and they have to beat defenders after the catch to gain more than 5-6 yards, so it's no wonder since Lapo came back to be the O.C that we haven't had  "that" guy

Also even though these guys are pro's it get's deflating knowing that you're not gonna be allowed to cut loose, or that the offence is going to be pedestrian and focus around 2-3 guys, so your intensity drops off and you almost just go through the motions. You can see it in a lot of guys play the last few years here...and I don't blame them.

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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2019, 01:46:38 PM »

I think you have to go back to Stegall to find another true CFL-top receiver find by WPG scouts, right?  That's a horrible batting average.  However, we are getting waaay better at scouting D talent.  Maybe the current scouts should handle D and we hire a new guy to scout O.

At one time receivers were falling out of the sky for us. Stegall, Simon, Bruce, R Bryant. All brought in to the league as Bombers.
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2019, 01:53:50 PM »

In my opinion part of the problem with us not finding/having a game breaking receiver is because we don't give a guy a chance, or use anybody to be that type of receiver..Darvin gets a few deep shots here and there and the odd time we send a guy downfield on a post or fade, but rarely do we do anything to have guys layered in depth, moving in full stride or sent to open spaces isolating one on one.

Pretty much everything is within the hashes to a guy who is not moving, or settling down underneath coverage, or a swing or short out to a guy with pretty much all the defenders in front of him and they have to beat defenders after the catch to gain more than 5-6 yards, so it's no wonder since Lapo came back to be the O.C that we haven't had  "that" guy

Also even though these guys are pro's it get's deflating knowing that you're not gonna be allowed to cut loose, or that the offence is going to be pedestrian and focus around 2-3 guys, so your intensity drops off and you almost just go through the motions. You can see it in a lot of guys play the last few years here...and I don't blame them.



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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2019, 01:57:05 PM »

yes....but really it's true...when you run basically a static receiving game, it gets pretty predictable and easy to defend, and also near immpossible to groom a burner...maybe thats why some receivers chose elsewhere too...wouldn't surprise me
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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2019, 02:09:08 PM »

Except it's not four. Adams was an Argo find and Edwards was an Alouette find.

Matthews and Denmark were Joe Mack finds.
So two in the past 10

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