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« on: February 01, 2019, 01:40:17 PM »

In my opinion not yet. He is to streaky with his offence, and not very good defensively. What will his next contract be worth?
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2019, 02:03:45 PM »

Bridge deal for 6.5M for 2 years.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2019, 03:29:13 PM »

Unless he turns it around soon, I'm not sure he even gets premium dollars on a bridge deal, especially without arbitration rights.  Hopefully his season rebounds and he gets a long term extension in the range of Ehlers and Scheifele.  I can't see him signing for as much as Wheeler.  Maybe 5 at $7mil? 
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2019, 04:34:46 PM »

People need to remember how young he still is. And look at what he's already accomplished. It's easy to overvalue a player when he's putting up goals but he's been streaky since he started his NHL career and this season has been particularly streaky. And by the same token, it's easy to dump on him when he isn't producing or contributing. That being said, fans of this team - and I'm not saying it's anyone here - have to keep that in mind when criticizing him. And if you listen to his interviews, he's his biggest critic. But he doesn't put himself down and neither should anybody else. Most importantly, the team is still winning despite his struggles.

He's got the tools to be a superstar, IMO. He isn't there yet, though. He'll need to put in more work in the off-season to hone his skill set and round out his game. It's simply a matter of reaching his potential a this point and being a more consistent player.

Remember where Scheifele was at 20 years old. He worked hard and it's paid off significantly.\

All that said, I'm hoping for a bridge deal, either two or three years in the range of $3.5-4.5M AAV.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2019, 07:35:17 PM »

I've heard PM talk a few times about Laine and his development. It's all great things. He has an elite shot (is this a category above elite? Generational?). But is a 20 year old learning the game.

I think both sides are going to want a bridge deal moving forward, and then we can see how the rest of his game develops. I don't see any reason not to think he's going to be a Jet for the next 10 years still.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2019, 10:05:14 PM »

I like where Kyle Connor is headed. This kid is in for a good size pay day. At this point a more complete player.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2019, 03:00:54 AM »

Benched for Ehlers return. If not who the heck do you take out? Lemieux no, Rosie no, Tanev no, Appleton likely but no.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2019, 06:54:17 AM »

Benched for Ehlers return. If not who the heck do you take out? Lemieux no, Rosie no, Tanev no, Appleton likely but no.

It absolutely is Appleton.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2019, 02:25:18 PM »

I?m not worried about Laine. I still remember comments from a few years ago on social media about Scheifele and what a bust he was and how Couturier was better. Fast forward to now and he is one of the most important players on the team. In my opinion, Laine?s confidence is low right now and think that he needs a bit of coaching. It is pure nonsense all the trade Laine comments out there. The guy is 20 and is in elite company for getting to 100 goals the quickest before 21. He will continue to evolve and in 5 years from now he?ll be a consistent superstar!
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 01:50:18 PM »

It absolutely is Appleton.

Without question.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 07:12:29 PM »

If he can get past this slump...  he has been on a start trajectory since day one, since saying he should have been picked over Matthews (yes, I know, that was somewhat tongue in cheek), but he hasn't had to handle adversity really at all yet.  It has all come naturally and while that is the case, it also means we haven't seen how he can handle adversity.

Having to adjust lines based on his play is horrible to other players, and while we all know he has the ability to shine, it starts to get worrisome when this happens, and while his teammates won't consciously resent his slump, you can bet there is subconscious concern... especially when you score 9 goals on an opponent and your snipers gets none of them.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 07:32:12 PM »

Laine worries me a little bit. He's a shooter but doesn't seem to be much else. I get that he's young and will hopefully round out his game, but perhaps the improvement that needs to be made is greater than anticipated. A slump is one thing, but he's completely disappeared in all facets.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2019, 11:43:56 PM »

Laine a superstar??? Surely you jest.....some nights he's not even a star/he becomes invisible.

OV, Sid and McDavid are superstars...consistent, high end performanaces game in game out.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 02:42:12 PM »

Should we trade Laine for Stone?? If Stone will sign an extension.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2019, 03:35:22 PM »

Should we trade Laine for Stone?? If Stone will sign an extension.

Don't think we're quite there yet... but I'd love to see a line with  Laine and Stone on it...  that might bust Laine's slump... 

Its been a while since I watch SlapShot, didn't they have a unique way of busting a guys slump?  Or was that another hockey movie?
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2019, 04:28:46 PM »

The jets as a whole last night. Terrible.
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2019, 05:35:38 PM »

Should we trade Laine for Stone?? If Stone will sign an extension.

That doesn't sound like a very good idea.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2019, 04:36:35 PM »

What worries me is Laine is a floater. His personality is so laid back, I'll be shocked
if he ever puts in the effort to become more than a one-dimensional player. I don't know who or what can light a fire under his butt.
I'd trade him for Stone in a heartbeat, if we could afford an extension, and then make a run for the Cup.
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2019, 01:59:27 AM »

Pretty sure Wheeler and Schief combinded at 20 have less points the Laine at 20

Superstar at 20?   Lets get real.

Hes in a perfect place for him to grow as a player. He dont need to carry the load of a team. He jus needs to grow and learn from the guys around him.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2019, 03:42:12 AM »

Pretty sure Wheeler and Schief combinded at 20 have less points the Laine at 20

Superstar at 20?   Lets get real.

Hes in a perfect place for him to grow as a player. He dont need to carry the load of a team. He jus needs to grow and learn from the guys around him.

While I agree that it's too early to judge Laine, comparing him to Wheeler and Scheifele at the same ages makes no sense. Neither of them were in the NHL during their teen years. Obviously Laine has better stats.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2019, 05:33:05 AM »

While I agree that it's too early to judge Laine, comparing him to Wheeler and Scheifele at the same ages makes no sense. Neither of them were in the NHL during their teen years. Obviously Laine has better stats.

Isn't that kind of the point, though? You have fans saying Laine sucks, he's a bust, he should be traded, etc. Probably the same fans who complained when Scheifele was drafted. Now look at him.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2019, 06:18:08 AM »

Isn't that kind of the point, though? You have fans saying Laine sucks, he's a bust, he should be traded, etc. Probably the same fans who complained when Scheifele was drafted. Now look at him.

Exactly - way, way too early to make any judgement on Laine at this point.  He needs to stay and grow with the Jets until proven otherwise.  That "otherwise" hasn't happened yet.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2019, 03:55:54 PM »

Glad to see he scored one last night. Too much pressure being put on a 20 year old kid. I think putting him on a line with shieffle is the way to go, there?s definitely better chemistry there than with Little, and Connor s production isn?t going to suffer, if anything it will increase, he?s got amazing speed and hands and on the second line, he?s not going against the other teams too defensive players . Love watching him play.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2019, 04:47:36 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2019, 06:46:10 PM »

Glad to see he scored one last night. Too much pressure being put on a 20 year old kid. I think putting him on a line with shieffle is the way to go, there?s definitely better chemistry there than with Little, and Connor s production isn?t going to suffer, if anything it will increase, he?s got amazing speed and hands and on the second line, he?s not going against the other teams too defensive players . Love watching him play.
he scored 2 goals last night there bub.
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2019, 06:52:48 PM »

Bandwagon tickets now back on sale...

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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2019, 01:08:53 PM »

PL has 4 goals in the last 3 games. Doesn't matter how they go in as long as he is scoring. Putting him on the 1st unit has made him work a little harder to keep up Wheels and Scheifele. But at -20 he still has to play better D.
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2019, 01:26:06 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2019, 03:57:23 PM »

That last rush, through a Blues team in lock down mode, and almost scored, well...

He definately needs some tweaking, especially his effort level (when he was going 110% full out this series he was incredible and then he'd disappear).  But he will be a guy that puts people fannies in the seats for sure. 
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2019, 01:48:33 AM »

Playing him on the top line would also help.
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