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Question: Pick the CFL's six greatest non-specialty punters or kickers of all-time!
Jack Abendschan
Tommy Joe Coffey
Lionel Conacher
George Fleming
Alan Ford
Cam Fraser
Wayne Giardino
Chester 'Cookie' Gilchrist
Jack Hill
Ted Hunt
Larry Isbell
Gerry James
Don Jonas
Vic Kristopaitis
Joe Krol
Garry Lefebvre
Dave Mann
Mike McTague
Jackie Parker
Moe Racine
Larry Robinson
Charlie Shepard
Hugh 'Bummer' Stirling
Annis Stukus
Don Sutherin
Jim Van Pelt
Sonny Wade
Hawley 'Huck' Welch
Joe Zuger
Other

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« on: November 29, 2018, 05:18:21 PM »

Years ago CFL team rosters were much smaller than they are today. I remember that rosters were limited to 32 players back in the 1960's and I imagine that the maximum size allowed was probably even smaller in earlier decades. Up until the late 1960's therefore punters and kickers were invariably position players on offence or defence who handled their hoofing duties as a sidelight.

This all changed when the British Columbia Lions unveiled Ted Gerela as their kicker in 1967. Other teams very quickly followed suit and the floodgates for specialty kickers and punters were opened.

Who though do you think were the greatest non-specialty punters or kickers of all-time in the CFL? Choose as many as a half dozen from this list:

Jack Abendschan
Tommy Joe Coffey
Lionel Conacher
George Fleming
Alan Ford
Cam Fraser
Wayne Giardino
Chester 'Cookie' Gilchrist
Jack Hill
Ted Hunt
Larry Isbell
Gerry James
Don Jonas
Vic Kristopaitis
Joe Krol
Garry Lefebvre
Dave Mann
Mike McTague
Jackie Parker
Moe Racine
Larry Robinson
Charlie Shepard
Hugh 'Bummer' Stirling
Annis Stukus
Don Sutherin
Jim Van Pelt
Sonny Wade
Hawley 'Huck' Welch
Joe Zuger
Other(specify)


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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 05:32:15 PM »

I would add Ed Ulmer to this list who was a punter, all star DB and who also returned KOs.  His punting record as a Bomber was only surpassed by Bob Cameron who was a specialty kicker.   I remember his booming punts and the tremendous height and hangtime allowing our cover team to surround opposing returners for little to no gain.   He's still in the top 10 all time for interceptions with 25!  He unfortunately played during a time (65-71) when our team wasn't very good however that never diminished him in my eyes as a Bomber great!

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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 06:03:00 PM »

Agree.....Ulmer was one of the best.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2018, 06:23:10 PM »

That's a pretty impressive list of golden oldies. Hard to only pick 6.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2018, 06:32:41 PM »

Feel like such an idiot to have forgotten Ulmer ......... he was an outstanding punter.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2018, 06:35:01 PM »

Feel like such an idiot to have forgotten Ulmer ......... he was an outstanding punter.

Yes but I can't get the 1965 Grey Cup game out of my mind with those negative punts into the wind.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2018, 06:52:44 PM »

This list makes me feel like a spring chicken
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2018, 06:56:07 PM »

Yes but I can't get the 1965 Grey Cup game out of my mind with those negative punts into the wind.
remember that too....he didn't have a line drive kick in his arsenal but when he tagged one it just about went into orbit.   All negative things aside he was an outstanding athlete and very versatile.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2018, 07:07:25 PM »

This list makes me feel like a spring chicken

I don't even recognize six names.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2018, 07:19:19 PM »

Gerry Organ should be on that list.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2018, 07:25:20 PM »

I didn't see any of the punters whose careers ended before 1970 but the Ulmers, the Abendshans, the Fords etc were good athletes.  Their punting was great in their day.  As has been mentioned, they were well capable of sending the ball great distances.  Having specialists in that position has allowed for much more variety in the craft.  I do not remember anyone from the list who could use the wind like Bob Cameron. Into a Winnipeg Stadium wind he was something else.  And anyone who has watched Medlock, especially in practice, has to be impressed at his directional control.  He has such a variety of techniques that allows him to produce punts for different positions on the field.  I do not remember any of the people on the list even trying to do half the things we see today.  That is not meant to be a put-down for the punters of the past.  The game evolves and I would not put a big lot of cash on any of today's punters making a success of playing offensive line, quarterback or DB as "the old guys" did!
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2018, 07:30:42 PM »

Gerry Organ should be on that list.

I just checked Wikipedia to confirm his ineligibility:

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Gerry Organ (born December 4, 1944) is a former professional Canadian football placekicker and punter for the Ottawa Rough Riders of the Canadian Football League. He played for 13 seasons for the Rough Riders, playing in three Grey Cup games, winning two championships in 1973 and 1976. Organ played in 176 games in the CFL and is Ottawa's all-time leader in points scored with 1,462. He is the only kicker to have won the CFL's Most Outstanding Canadian Award, which he won in 1973. He played college football with the Guelph Gryphons.

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2018, 08:14:18 PM »

I don't even recognize six names.

I got to watch 18 or so of the names listed. It's unfortunate you didn't get to see players like Parker, Jonas, Robinson, Van Pelt, Wade or Tommy Joe Coffey.

Those were the stars of my youth.

Don Jonas: QB, punter and place kicker scored 140 points one season for the Bombers IIRC. 1972 comes to mind.

Charlie Shepard had a 95 yard punt for Winnipeg once.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2018, 08:34:09 PM »

Ryan Lankford 🙂
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2018, 09:09:00 PM »

I just checked Wikipedia to confirm his ineligibility:

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