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TBURGESS
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2018, 03:10:09 PM »

Football ops does not boil down to 3 coaches TBurg. Until recently the Bombers ran with a staff of 8 coaches which was the smallest coaching staff in the league. Last year we expanded to 10, which is mid pack in the CFL. O'Shea makes an average CFL HC wage and Hall is also a mid tier DC. Yes, Lapo is well compensated but really he is probably the only member of our football ops staff making above league average. With a relatively small staff compared to the rest of the league, and nearly everyone making an average wage you can pay a guy above average and still be considered quite frugal.

However, perhaps, frugal was the wrong choice of words as it may imply that we have been cheap. The Bombers have been very diligent in reigning in football ops budgets in the past and the present. We do not have guys like ex-NFLer Jerry Glanville pulling down big money, or a staff with 3 guys pulling down GM wages and 16 coaches like Saskatchewan, etc etc. We hired what we needed, paid them a fair wage, and treated them well and because of that we kept expenses down compared to many teams in the league.
I didn't imply or mean that Football ops boils down to 3 people.

We used to be cheap. Less coaches. Less scouts. Less experience. Gave new guys their first shot at the next level. Expecting top results from average to below average people and pay was the Winnipeg way. That's not who we are anymore.

Where do you get your opinion that most of our staff make average money? The big 3 are on their 6th year. Our OC and DC are very experienced and experience costs. We have a larger scouting department than we've ever had before. We took them from other teams, so I'd doubt that we got them for cheap or even average. We're known for paying players for potential before they've earned the big salaries. I expect that's the same thing we do with football ops.

We're not the Riders, but we're not the Bombers of old either.
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2018, 03:30:59 PM »

I didn't imply or mean that Football ops boils down to 3 people.

We used to be cheap. Less coaches. Less scouts. Less experience. Gave new guys their first shot at the next level. Expecting top results from average to below average people and pay was the Winnipeg way. That's not who we are anymore.

Where do you get your opinion that most of our staff make average money? The big 3 are on their 6th year. Our OC and DC are very experienced and experience costs. We have a larger scouting department than we've ever had before. We took them from other teams, so I'd doubt that we got them for cheap or even average. We're known for paying players for potential before they've earned the big salaries. I expect that's the same thing we do with football ops.

We're not the Riders, but we're not the Bombers of old either.

True what you say....however I will only feel vindicated when the Grey Cup parade comes to Winnipeg!   Anything less is window dressing!
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2018, 03:34:08 PM »

Where do I get the idea we are about middle of the pack in terms of football ops expenses? Wade Miller was asked at one of the annual fan forums. He stated that we used to be notoriously cheap and it affected our on field product. He said he was committed to increasing the amount but cautioned that as a community owned club with big financial commitments that we will always be middle of the pack in terms of spending. He said that because we couldn't be big spenders that it was paramount to build an organization that treats people well yada yada yada. So to answer your question, I got the information straight from the horses mouth. When asked if he would run with the Jones's he said no, he wouldn't be the cheapest in the league anymore but the Bombers still had to control expenses.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2018, 03:38:46 PM »

Could we lose Jordan Younger to Hamilton:

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Steinauer says he?s not averse to taking a chance on potential, so that brings up the likes of current CFL assistant coaches James Stanley and Jordan Younger, who have been associated with defensive success in Winnipeg and Toronto and have deep previous history with the new Ticat boss.

http://3downnation.com/2018/12/12/milton-time-could-entertain-various-options-for-defensive-coordinator/

I thought Younger was being groomed to take over from Hall and would hate to see him leave.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2018, 04:05:56 PM »

Could we lose Jordan Younger to Hamilton:

http://3downnation.com/2018/12/12/milton-time-could-entertain-various-options-for-defensive-coordinator/

I thought Younger was being groomed to take over from Hall and would hate to see him leave.

So Fred, do you like MASH or are you a Humphrey Bogart fan?
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2018, 04:16:49 PM »

Could we lose Jordan Younger to Hamilton:

http://3downnation.com/2018/12/12/milton-time-could-entertain-various-options-for-defensive-coordinator/

I thought Younger was being groomed to take over from Hall and would hate to see him leave.

Other than a journalist recognizing that he is an up and coming coach, there has been zero indication that anyone is interested in Younger as a DC.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2018, 04:32:00 PM »

So Fred, do you like MASH or are you a Humphrey Bogart fan?


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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2018, 04:43:57 AM »

Good Luck to all CFL coaches. Tough job, long crazy hours,,and. Not enough pay or job security/benefits.
Great to see our boy Marcus Howell still,with Bc.  Same with Bobby D in Ottawa!
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