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« Reply #150 on: December 05, 2018, 06:48:38 PM »

Bighill playing for Claybrooks is an exciting situation for the Lions.

If Biggie goes to BC then Solly leaves. No way that Hervey is crazy enough to tie up 650k in his starting Lbers.
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« Reply #151 on: December 05, 2018, 06:50:46 PM »

If Biggie goes to BC then Solly leaves. No way that Hervey is crazy enough to tie up 650k in his starting Lbers.

650k, hey?

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« Reply #152 on: December 05, 2018, 07:05:27 PM »

Solly is at 250k it was reported...and Biggie most likely be in that range...230 at the least I bet...and if they resign Awe..that will be at least 120k...and if it is Lokombo...being a proven National with NFL experience...likely more...so yup..at the very least 600+k in 3 linebackers...not to mention Herdman who resigned for I would bet closing in on the 85 to 90k range..a lot of scratch to pay when you still have to resign, or replace Burnham/Posey/Arcenault...not to mention add a top flight QB which may run into a real bidding war especially if BLM bolts to NFL and you could conceivably have 3-4 teams fighting over a couple guys...

Sure makes our situation look pretty good when we have a lot of our core money already allocated and we know what we have to spend on a key free agent without sacrificing other areas
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« Reply #153 on: December 05, 2018, 08:15:02 PM »

650k, hey?

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Bighill will probably get 250k, Solly 250, and then Lokombo at around 150k. If it's Awe then likely shave 30k off that number. Still an incredibly expensive trio of LBers. When you spend that kind of money on three defenders you either have to commit to starting 4-5 guys on rookie contracts around them and in a year where recruitment will be challenging I can't see that happening.
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« Reply #154 on: December 05, 2018, 08:29:54 PM »

Bighill will probably get 250k, Solly 250, and then Lokombo at around 150k. If it's Awe then likely shave 30k off that number. Still an incredibly expensive trio of LBers. When you spend that kind of money on three defenders you either have to commit to starting 4-5 guys on rookie contracts around them and in a year where recruitment will be challenging I can't see that happening.


I think you might be a little high.  Solly signed a  two year deal worth $225k plus another $20k in incentives (which he would not have reached this year), but I think he extended into 2019. 3downnation would only say he was "over $200k".

Being that as it may, I think you can sign Bighill for less than $250k, probably closer to $200k.  I think 150k for Lokombo is right. 

I would guess that it would take $575k for Bighill, Solly and Lokombo, which is still a pretty big ticket. My personal theory is Hervey only chases Bighill if he thinks Elimimian is turning out to be too expensive.

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« Reply #155 on: December 05, 2018, 08:46:54 PM »


I think you might be a little high.  Solly signed a  two year deal worth $225k plus another $20k in incentives (which he would not have reached this year), but I think he extended into 2019. 3downnation would only say he was "over $200k".

Being that as it may, I think you can sign Bighill for less than $250k, probably closer to $200k.  I think 150k for Lokombo is right. 

I would guess that it would take $575k for Bighill, Solly and Lokombo, which is still a pretty big ticket. My personal theory is Hervey only chases Bighill if he thinks Elimimian is turning out to be too expensive.



The only way Bighill leaves for BC is if Solly goes elsewhere first. They are not both playing in BC.

Hervey is now GM. He does not want to invest that large of a percentage of the cap into one position group.
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« Reply #156 on: December 05, 2018, 08:49:42 PM »


I think you might be a little high.  Solly signed a  two year deal worth $225k plus another $20k in incentives (which he would not have reached this year), but I think he extended into 2019. 3downnation would only say he was "over $200k".

Being that as it may, I think you can sign Bighill for less than $250k, probably closer to $200k.  I think 150k for Lokombo is right. 

I would guess that it would take $575k for Bighill, Solly and Lokombo, which is still a pretty big ticket. My personal theory is Hervey only chases Bighill if he thinks Elimimian is turning out to be too expensive.



Whatever the hard numbers are we'll never know for sure, but I find it extremely doubtful that any team has two LBer at 200k on their team. It just puts too much SMS pressure on other areas of the team.
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« Reply #157 on: December 17, 2018, 09:39:39 PM »

With Miller and Briggs coming back, are they bringing Gauthier back too?  Or does the #44 jersey become available to entice Biggie back?  Or do they extend Gauthier at any other number than 44 should Biggie decide to return (give him a small bonus for a number change if Biggie re-signs, like $.5K)

Could being #44 be the push over the edge to get him back?

Probably not, but lets get out all the stops...

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« Reply #158 on: December 17, 2018, 09:46:53 PM »

With Miller and Briggs coming back, are they bringing Gauthier back too?  Or does the #44 jersey become available to entice Biggie back?  Or do they extend Gauthier at any other number than 44 should Biggie decide to return (give him a small bonus for a number change if Biggie re-signs, like $.5K)

Could being #44 be the push over the edge to get him back?

Probably not, but lets get out all the stops...



If wearing the number was that big of a deal the Bombers would have intervened last season already.
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« Reply #159 on: December 17, 2018, 10:19:59 PM »

If wearing the number was that big of a deal the Bombers would have intervened last season already.

Pretty sure Biggie said he wouldn't want someone coming and asking for his number, so why should someone else have to give up theirs.  He is a team guy. Intervening with Gauthier, beyond the "Would you mind..." question would not be a team thing to do, and apparently Gauthier didn't want to give up the number (were I in Gauthier's shoes, I'm not sure which way I'd have gone, the "Hey, its my number, I'm keeping it" or "It would be an honor to give it to Biggie".  I think I'd be more the latter...).

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« Reply #160 on: December 17, 2018, 10:39:44 PM »

With Miller and Briggs coming back, are they bringing Gauthier back too?  Or does the #44 jersey become available to entice Biggie back?  Or do they extend Gauthier at any other number than 44 should Biggie decide to return (give him a small bonus for a number change if Biggie re-signs, like $.5K)

Could being #44 be the push over the edge to get him back?

Probably not, but lets get out all the stops...


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« Reply #161 on: December 17, 2018, 11:03:03 PM »

Pretty sure Biggie said he wouldn't want someone coming and asking for his number, so why should someone else have to give up theirs.  He is a team guy. Intervening with Gauthier, beyond the "Would you mind..." question would not be a team thing to do, and apparently Gauthier didn't want to give up the number (were I in Gauthier's shoes, I'm not sure which way I'd have gone, the "Hey, its my number, I'm keeping it" or "It would be an honor to give it to Biggie".  I think I'd be more the latter...).



Oh man....I thought you were joking about the number thing. This has you all tied up in knots. What number he has to wear is not going to be ANY factor whatsoever on where Biggie signs. Teams take numbers away from players all the time to give to newly acquired star players if the new player wants the number bad enough. They then tell the press it was the player that decided to give up the number and paint him as the nice guy to the press.
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« Reply #162 on: December 17, 2018, 11:09:41 PM »

The number preference of athlete's is always a touchy subject. I've never given a rip what number I was but hey, I m not a professional athlete who has a 'brand' to protect. I think Biggie's agent and the GM should have handled and addressed it during contract negotiations. If Biggie wanted the number, he should have  stated such to his agent/Walters, and Walters would have personally ripped the sweater off of Gauthier's back if it meant signing Biggie. If the number wasn't that big a deal to Biggie, then don't mention a word after you've signed as its just a clubhouse distraction.
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« Reply #163 on: December 18, 2018, 12:19:27 PM »

The number preference of athlete's is always a touchy subject. I've never given a rip what number I was but hey, I m not a professional athlete who has a 'brand' to protect. I think Biggie's agent and the GM should have handled and addressed it during contract negotiations. If Biggie wanted the number, he should have  stated such to his agent/Walters, and Walters would have personally ripped the sweater off of Gauthier's back if it meant signing Biggie. If the number wasn't that big a deal to Biggie, then don't mention a word after you've signed as its just a clubhouse distraction.

Biggie didn't mention it, he was asked about it and put the issue to bed rather quickly.
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« Reply #164 on: December 18, 2018, 01:23:23 PM »

Clearly, #44 wasn't the dealbreaker when he signed here last season. Why would it be any different now? Huh

Biggie didn't mention it, he was asked about it and put the issue to bed rather quickly.

Exactly. Much ado about nothing as far as Bighill was concerned.

I'm pretty sure the number that does matter is the one preceded by the $ sign.
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