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« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2018, 01:21:23 PM »

People keep retroactively (i.e. now) talking about this supposed "lousy play" by Poop.  At the time of Poop's last couple of games, I don't recall anyone complaining about him.  No one was saying he was getting beat, or sit him down.  He was never the forum whipping boy.

But all of the sudden it's clear to everyone Poop got "lousy" before he was benched?

Can someone tell me what was Poop's last game starting?  I want to take a peek back at those games to see if Poop was screwing things up or not.  I just don't recall anything like that.  I hate the guy just as much as everyone for defecting, but it doesn't change my opinion of what he contributed when starting.

Take a look at his stats if you're curious and compare them to last season. It seems like he wasn't as effective in 2018 as he was in 2017.

And of course a DT wouldn't really be discussed, regardless of how good or bad his play is. It's not a position that gets magnified all too often. However, it seems as though the coaching staff saw something and made the decision to change personnel.

And Johnson's last game played was the ugly loss at home to the RedBlacks (week 10).
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« Reply #76 on: November 09, 2018, 01:45:19 PM »

I was told he considered himself as a "pass rush specialist" and tried to basically just play that way and abandoned the scheme for his own glory..and hence...got sat
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« Reply #77 on: November 09, 2018, 02:37:23 PM »

I was told he considered himself as a "pass rush specialist" and tried to basically just play that way and abandoned the scheme for his own glory..and hence...got sat
I mean yeah he was a pass rushing DT. That's no secret. As for the rest, thats pure speculation
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« Reply #78 on: November 09, 2018, 03:01:53 PM »

depending on whom you got the info from...just saying....he also had some somewhat negative tings to say in a recent article is Sask yesterday...so take it for what it's worth...
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« Reply #79 on: November 09, 2018, 03:09:34 PM »

I was told he considered himself as a "pass rush specialist" and tried to basically just play that way and abandoned the scheme for his own glory..and hence...got sat

That was Bob Irving and Doug Brown's take on it as well. Might be speculation, but it's some pretty well connected speculation.
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« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2018, 03:11:53 PM »

I mean yeah he was a pass rushing DT. That's no secret. As for the rest, thats pure speculation

The Bombers literally said that Bryant is a better fit in the system as a more well rounded DT. They didn't say anything about Poop but their comments about Bryant speak volumes.
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« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2018, 04:04:09 PM »

The Bombers literally said that Bryant is a better fit in the system as a more well rounded DT. They didn't say anything about Poop but their comments about Bryant speak volumes.

Not really, it's called justification after the fact, for some reason you're twisting this to fit the narrative that once a player moves on to an opponent they are no longer a good player, see it all the time on Riderfans.  Poop is still a very good DT and if the Bombers face him this Sunday he will be more than a handful to contain and he will improve an already solid Sask. D-line.
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« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2018, 04:10:46 PM »

it appeared the team moved on months ago...and a guy who hasn't played since..sure can have his moments but will be nowhere effective for a whole game...especially battling on the dline...
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« Reply #83 on: November 09, 2018, 04:32:17 PM »

Not really, it's called justification after the fact, for some reason you're twisting this to fit the narrative that once a player moves on to an opponent they are no longer a good player, see it all the time on Riderfans.  Poop is still a very good DT and if the Bombers face him this Sunday he will be more than a handful to contain and he will improve an already solid Sask. D-line.

LOL Cheesy

Give it a rest. And if I were you, I wouldn't accuse anyone else of a twisting a narrative considering some of what you said regarding his being benched (being mistreated by the team, releasing him was a miscalculation, he'll spill trade secrets to an opponent, etc.).

What's with your ongoing and over-the-top defense of Johnson, anyway? It's a bit odd, especially when he didn't live up to expectation this season.
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« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2018, 04:56:26 PM »

Not really, it's called justification after the fact, for some reason you're twisting this to fit the narrative that once a player moves on to an opponent they are no longer a good player, see it all the time on Riderfans.  Poop is still a very good DT and if the Bombers face him this Sunday he will be more than a handful to contain and he will improve an already solid Sask. D-line.

That certainly happens, I don't think this is a case of that.

We're not talking about a player who wouldn't re-sign with us and left for another team via Free Agency. This is a guy who was beat out by a rookie and was on our PR. Obviously there was a reason Bryant was starting ahead of Johnson. This is not justification after the fact, it's the reason he lost his job.
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« Reply #85 on: November 09, 2018, 05:03:32 PM »

Funny I thought this was a Streveler thread....maybe start a new one for Poop...oh there already is one Grin
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« Reply #86 on: November 09, 2018, 06:49:28 PM »

Not sure why we are still talking about Poop if he was so irrelevant and not good enough to play. Seems like some are just hellbent on defending and justifying the Bombers decision
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« Reply #87 on: November 09, 2018, 06:52:28 PM »

Not sure why we are still talking about Poop if he was so irrelevant and not good enough to play. Seems like some are just hellbent on defending and justifying the Bombers decision

We're still talking because people disagree about what happened. Doesn't really matter if he was a 10 year all-star or a first year PR player.
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« Reply #88 on: November 09, 2018, 06:58:13 PM »

Seems like some are just hellbent on defending and justifying the Bombers decision

As opposed to those hell-bent on vilifying the organization for a personnel decision (see: TJ Thorpe, 2017) and vainly digging for storylines that simply don't exist (the team did Johnson dirty and now they're a weaker team for releasing him), not to mention overrating said player after he was benched.
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« Reply #89 on: November 09, 2018, 06:59:21 PM »

LOL Cheesy

Give it a rest. And if I were you, I wouldn't accuse anyone else of a twisting a narrative considering some of what you said regarding his being benched (being mistreated by the team, releasing him was a miscalculation, he'll spill trade secrets to an opponent, etc.).

What's with your ongoing and over-the-top defense of Johnson, anyway? It's a bit odd, especially when he didn't live up to expectation this season.
What's more odd is the people talking as if Johnson was some lazy dud. No one had an issue with Johnson but now that he's gone he didn't live up to expectations etc.

He did actually. Again, he is a pass rushing tackle. That doesn't fit our scheme and that's fair and fine. But as a pass rusher he was above all our ends except Jeffcoat in QB pressures according to Derek Taylor.

He didn't fit our scheme and that's valid. But he is a good football player and we have no proof he was or is lazy. You say it's odd people are defending him. I think it's odd people are still trying to find new ways to downplay his on-field impact and his ability
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