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« on: August 03, 2018, 12:10:12 PM »

http://3downnation.com/2018/08/02/jason-maas-loses-****-mind-loses-wrestling-match-gatorade-jug/

Pretty embarrassing stuff, if I'm the owner of the club he would be making a bunch of public apologies. I would expect the 1st one to occur in the locker room with all the players and coaches in attendance. One in front of all the local press and the last one on TSN during the next televised game, apologizing to all the CFL fans.

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I believe the problem with the link is the use of a four letter word beginning with D in the title of the article, this website uses software to filter out the word...
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2018, 12:11:09 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2018, 12:19:02 PM »

TSN showed Maas having an apparent temper tantrum. This link appears to work: http://3downnation.com/2018/08/02/jason-maas-loses-****-mind-loses-wrestling-match-gatorade-jug/
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2018, 12:20:43 PM »

Maas is an angry, angry man. Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 12:23:51 PM »

meh that's not bad or apology worthy
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 12:31:53 PM »

We'll just have to disagree then, it's a mic'd up game...he's being featured on national television!  To a large degree he's representing the club and the league. Great example of personal discipline... little wonder the team seems to have no discipline and is likely the most penalized team in the league.   
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 12:32:54 PM »

It's entertaining. No apologies necessary.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2018, 12:36:44 PM »

He's such a child on the sidelines, it's shocking he's been so successful as a head coach.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2018, 12:39:20 PM »

He's such a child on the sidelines, it's shocking he's been so successful as a head coach.
I think most of his success is tied to Mike Reilly. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2018, 12:39:45 PM »

TSN showed Maas having an apparent temper tantrum. This link appears to work: http://3downnation.com/2018/08/02/jason-maas-loses-****-mind-loses-wrestling-match-gatorade-jug/

Jason pretending that water jug is Mike Benevides.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2018, 12:40:31 PM »

i don't think anybody really cares beyond some fans...he is winning, his team usually makes the playoffs, they are in the hunt every year thanks to Mike Reilly and some great receivers...he has a "style" be it good or bad I am sure his players don't care one way or another.  Coaches lose their stuff all the time on the sidelines - Maas just does it more and with some added flair.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2018, 02:51:41 PM »

It's entertaining. No apologies necessary.

His conduct was demeaning to not just that specific Gatorade bucket but was clearly indicative of his shameful and disrespectful attitude to all Gatorade buckets everywhere. Such behaviour cannot be tolerated in present day society. Next thing you know he'll be disrespecting innocent water coolers. Sensitivity training for Jason is clearly in order.

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2018, 02:55:09 PM »

Do I really care... meh, not really. Does it make me enjoy it more when the Eskimos lose... definitely.

Being lead by a guy who can't keep it together on the sidelines might have something to do with the Eskimos penalty troubles, though.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2018, 02:56:26 PM »

His conduct was demeaning to not just that specific Gatorade bucket but was clearly indicative of his shameful and disrespectful attitude to all Gatorade buckets everywhere. Such behaviour cannot be tolerated in present day society. Next thing you know he'll be disrespecting innocent water coolers. Sensitivity training for Jason is clearly in order.

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lol.

Yeah I'm waiting for him to pull a Bobby Knight and chuck that jug right across the field. But then he'd need to bulk up a bit!

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2018, 03:16:32 PM »

I think most of his success is tied to Mike Reilly. 

No question. Where would that team without the reigning MOP?
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2018, 03:18:12 PM »

No question. Where would that team without the reigning MOP?
Replace Reilly with Jonathan Jennings, for example, and Edmonton doesn't make the playoffs.  They might not even win a game. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2018, 03:24:02 PM »

I think the funny part was not the graceful lowering of the Gatorade to the floor, of his hand getting tangled in the handle, but more that he then went on to get tangled in his headset... very surprised the headset survived...

Maas has a very bad anger issue, and does not have an effective way of expressing it.  You can imagine that he is trying to send a message to his players that he is PO'd...  but after one of his tirades, I'm sure many of them are too busy giggling to notice his message...  there is something to be said for keeping the atmosphere light, ask Hardrick and JSK, but having your players giggling at you isn't the best way...
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2018, 03:25:43 PM »

Mass is a childish, classless *ss. An embarrassment to the league

I ve never seen Wally, trestman, MOS do such childish acts. Speaks volumes for the lack of character and discipline involved here.
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2018, 03:26:33 PM »

I think the funny part was not the graceful lowering of the Gatorade to the floor, of his hand getting tangled in the handle, but more that he then went on to get tangled in his headset... very surprised the headset survived...

Maas has a very bad anger issue, and does not have an effective way of expressing it.  You can imagine that he is trying to send a message to his players that he is PO'd...  but after one of his tirades, I'm sure many of them are too busy giggling to notice his message...  there is something to be said for keeping the atmosphere light, ask Hardrick and JSK, but having your players giggling at you isn't the best way...
Reminds me of Casey Creehan at Bombers practice. He'd lose it and start swearing fairly often. At first I found it shocking. But after a while it was comical and I'm sure the players felt the same.
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2018, 03:32:25 PM »

I think the funny part was not the graceful lowering of the Gatorade to the floor, of his hand getting tangled in the handle, but more that he then went on to get tangled in his headset... very surprised the headset survived...

Maas has a very bad anger issue, and does not have an effective way of expressing it.  You can imagine that he is trying to send a message to his players that he is PO'd...  but after one of his tirades, I'm sure many of them are too busy giggling to notice his message...  there is something to be said for keeping the atmosphere light, ask Hardrick and JSK, but having your players giggling at you isn't the best way...

I'd love to see him and Kent Austin coaching the same team. This I would do a pay per view for.

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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2018, 03:32:42 PM »

You tend to lose respect for such an individual reeeeal quick.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2018, 03:34:12 PM »

I'd love to see him and Kent Austin coaching the same team. This I would do a pay per view for.
They'd either kill eachother or one of them would die of a heart attack on the sidelines. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2018, 03:36:18 PM »

They'd either kill eachother or one of them would die of a heart attack on the sidelines. 

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2018, 03:37:01 PM »

Replace Reilly with Jonathan Jennings, for example, and Edmonton doesn't make the playoffs.  They might not even win a game. 
You got that right. Reilly bails out the eskies time and time again, he's definitely the MOP of the league as he'd do he same for whatever team he's playing on. That said, if he does get hurt this year, the eskies do have kevin glenn so he'd keep them on par with bc and certainly beat the sad sack eastern  teams, so they d still win some games
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2018, 03:44:37 PM »

Its entertaining. I like stuff like this going on in our league, makes everything more fun and personal to the viewer. Nobody can tell me they havent reacted the same to a bad play watching the bombers over the years.

I say keep it up honestly, we need more characters like maas and Carter.
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2018, 03:45:32 PM »

Its entertaining. I like stuff like this going on in our league, makes everything more fun and personal to the viewer. Nobody can tell me they havent reacted the same to a bad play watching the bombers over the years.

I say keep it up honestly, we need more characters like maas and Carter.
I have definitely scared the cats with my yelling at the TV at times during Bomber games!  Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2018, 04:19:28 PM »

It's one trying to yell at a call from your living room or the stands but when your a Head Coach, you should show composure and discipline in your actions, as this is what you want from your players. To act in such a way is not only childish and irresponsible but it's hypocritical as well!!

Win or lose, you want to do so with your dignity in tact. I wouldn't want mos chucking Gatorade jugs on the sideline. He shows discipline and composure, just like he demands out of the players and he gets it. Maas doesn't.

Also, MOS could chuck the Gatorade jug AND Maas along with it!!
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2018, 04:21:07 PM »

He attacked the Gatorade bucket with great gusto....BUT that's cheaper than the headset he destroyed last year....Seems Jason has a lot of hostility and pent up anger and has a penchant for destroying anything in his immediate area....Three year old kids can display the same sort of tantrum behaviour...Maas just needs time to grow up Grin 
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2018, 04:39:11 PM »

Maas is an angry, angry man. Undecided

His Wife must live in paradise.
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2018, 04:51:51 PM »

His Wife must live in paradise.

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« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2018, 04:57:02 PM »


Here ya go.

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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2018, 05:06:46 PM »

This isn?t the first time he?s made himself look like a dufus on live tv. I?m more shocked that TSN continues to have him micd up so often. That non catch last night in front of him was golden tho.
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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2018, 05:54:51 PM »


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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2018, 06:10:52 PM »

I have definitely scared the cats with my yelling at the TV at times during Bomber games!  Cheesy
I used to scare Alex (my cat). Now he just looks at me like he's saying Oh great the Bombers have done something stupid again. Cheesy I think Maas is having the same effect on me.
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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2018, 06:15:05 PM »

I used to scare Alex (my cat). Now he just looks at me like he's saying Oh great the Bombers have done something stupid again. Cheesy I think Maas is having the same effect on me.
lol that's good your cat has gotten used to it, and now knows when the Bombers are playing!  Cheesy
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« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2018, 09:42:33 PM »

This isn?t the first time he?s made himself look like a dufus on live tv. I?m more shocked that TSN continues to have him micd up so often. That non catch last night in front of him was golden tho.
Heck he is THE most entertaining HC keep the mic on him! lol
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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2018, 06:28:30 AM »

i don't think anybody really cares beyond some fans...he is winning, his team usually makes the playoffs, they are in the hunt every year thanks to Mike Reilly and some great receivers...he has a "style" be it good or bad I am sure his players don't care one way or another.  Coaches lose their stuff all the time on the sidelines - Maas just does it more and with some added flair.

Ya, I love EDM having a coach like Maas.  It only helps us as the competition.  Can you imagine how much better EDM would be if they had a "normal" coach?

I'd love to see him and Kent Austin coaching the same team. This I would do a pay per view for.

Grin  Comment of the week.  Austin in the foreground ripping the ref a new one whilst Maas beats up objects in the background.  Maas is like Gamera or Godzilla busting up Tokyo on the sidelines.

This isn?t the first time he?s made himself look like a dufus on live tv. I?m more shocked that TSN continues to have him micd up so often. That non catch last night in front of him was golden tho.

You just put your finger on the #1 best idea to never have you mic aired on TSN -- swear every second word!  Maas always said he hated mic'd-up... this could be a ploy to get his wish, so he can keep his secrets!

Heck he is THE most entertaining HC keep the mic on him! lol

Bottom line... yup.  I love watching Maas blow up.  It's like watching DC get yet another pot charge.  It all just makes me laugh, and that makes it better than nothing.

Can you all imagine Maas losing in the GC?  Yowzers.  Anything not nailed down gets destroyed...

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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2018, 07:46:13 AM »

Maas lost his temper no doubt.  Glad he won the game or all hell will break loose in the locker room with a big big tantrum.
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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2018, 12:33:53 PM »

I couldn't care less that Mass loses his temper. As long as he keeps winning, most Edmonton fans won't care either. When he stops winning, his temperament will be talked about as one of the big reasons he 'lost the team'.
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« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2018, 01:06:04 PM »

Reminds me of Doug Berry, who I thought was a total embarrassment on our sidelines.
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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2018, 06:02:36 PM »

Maas lost his temper no doubt.  Glad he won the game or all hell will break loose in the locker room with a big big tantrum.

Maybe some of his anger issues go back to his childhood.  It is my understanding that his father was shot and killed (police officer in Yuma) when he was young. 
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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2018, 03:06:09 AM »

That's brutal, still, get some help man...
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2018, 01:53:02 PM »

Reminds me of Doug Berry, who I thought was a total embarrassment on our sidelines.

I think Maas would make even Berry blush.
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2018, 01:55:28 PM »

Come on, who doesn't miss the ol' "I'm so angry at the outcome of that play, I'm a throw a challenge flag here" from Berry.
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2018, 03:01:47 PM »

I think Maas would make even Berry blush.
Berry loved picking on Alexis Serna. 
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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2018, 01:08:48 PM »

All so irrelevant. All that matters when assessing a coach is the W-L record of the club.

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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2018, 01:15:58 PM »

All so irrelevant. All that matters when assessing a coach is the W-L record of the club.

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respectfully disagree.  Coach is representing the franchise, so how he conducts himself is a reflection of the team.
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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2018, 02:33:27 PM »

All so irrelevant. All that matters when assessing a coach is the W-L record of the club.

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Yeah, who cares about important traits like professionalism, respectfulness, and maturity.
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« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2018, 01:28:36 AM »

Hold it right there. I saw you palm that card. Sneaking the word "important" into your sentence constitutes begging the question. Our point of contention is whether these traits are important when it comes to rating football coaches.

I'm saying that if these traits don't help you win, they're not important. You must therefore demonstrate that such traits in a coach do help a team win.

And hopefully you're not demanding a higher standard of behaviour from an Eskimos' coach simply because you don't like the Eskimos. That would constitute a logical error.

Incidentally, I also just took issue with a buffoon on another board who was heaping scorn on Michael O'Shea's coaching fitness because O'Shea was wearing shorts. My response was that the game score told the story.



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« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2018, 02:10:24 AM »

No, the word wasn't "snuck" into my post, so spare the drama and try not to read into it too much. They are absolutely important traits for any coach to have and I felt emphasizing that was crucial.

I frankly don't care how Maas conducts himself; he doesn't represent the team I support. I'm just of the opinion he needs to grow up, which is totally unrelated to my liking or disliking your precious Eskimos. No logical error whatsoever. It's simply an opinion based on observation.

At the very least, his angry, childish tantrums are entertaining.
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« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2018, 02:16:48 PM »

No, the word wasn't "snuck" into my post, so spare the drama....

You're right. You didn't sneak the word in. You included it in a flagrant attempt to assume your conclusion.

...and try not to read into it too much.

I'm not reading too much into your post. The word "important" was there. Yet you made no attempt to demonstrate how and why these traits fit the definition of important for a football coach. You just treated it as a given.

They are absolutely important traits for any coach to have and I felt emphasizing that was crucial.

In football?! How? The very nature of the game requires one to grasp opponents and throw them onto the ground. How is doing so to a Gatorade bottle therefore a matter of consequence?

I frankly don't care how Maas conducts himself....

If you don't care how he conducts himself, why are you criticizing him?

I frankly don't care how Maas conducts himself; he doesn't represent the team I support. I'm just of the opinion he needs to grow up, which is totally unrelated to my liking or disliking your precious Eskimos. No logical error whatsoever.

Once again, why are you differentiating between a team you support, and one you do not? And how is which team I might support, and one I might not, relevant? (Where incidentally have I posted which CFL team is my favourite?) Would not the same logical principles apply in any and all cases? Allowing a greater latitude of behaviour for coaches on teams you support constitutes a logical error.

It's simply an opinion based on observation.

But not logic! Where's the evidence that such behaviour is an impediment to the Eskimos winning? Personally I don't see the evidence for such. All I see is the Eskimos winning record.

At the very least, his angry, childish tantrums are entertaining.

Maas' behaviour then would be right and proper. Football is after all essentially a little boys' game that's now played for the entertainment of the masses.

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« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2018, 02:32:50 PM »

ahhh yes the age old "liar liar your pants are on fire" and "do as I say not as I do" defense... and to think I started this thread!


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« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2018, 02:37:26 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2018, 02:39:52 PM »

All so irrelevant. All that matters when assessing a coach is the W-L record of the club.

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« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2018, 03:21:10 PM »

You're right. You didn't sneak the word in. You included it in a flagrant attempt to assume your conclusion.

I'm not reading too much into your post. The word "important" was there. Yet you made no attempt to demonstrate how and why these traits fit the definition of important for a football coach. You just treated it as a given.

In football?! How? The very nature of the game requires one to grasp opponents and throw them onto the ground. How is doing so to a Gatorade bottle therefore a matter of consequence?

If you don't care how he conducts himself, why are you criticizing him?

Once again, why are you differentiating between a team you support, and one you do not? And how is which team I might support, and one I might not, relevant? (Where incidentally have I posted which CFL team is my favourite?) Would not the same logical principles apply in any and all cases? Allowing a greater latitude of behaviour for coaches on teams you support constitutes a logical error.

But not logic! Where's the evidence that such behaviour is an impediment to the Eskimos winning? Personally I don't see the evidence for such. All I see is the Eskimos winning record.

Maas' behaviour then would be right and proper. Football is after all essentially a little boys' game that's now played for the entertainment of the masses.

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LOL Cheesy

What a ridiculous reply. Sorry for upsetting you.
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« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2018, 03:54:18 PM »

What are your thoughts on Jerry Sandusky?

I've never bothered to think about Jerry Sandusky until you asked just now. My two immediate thoughts at this instant are:

1. No Canadian playing let alone coaching experience.
2. He's in jail so it's a moot point anyway.

But it's Canadian football that I'm all about. I pay no attention to the American stuff. I'm wondering therefore why you asked me about this guy?

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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2018, 05:33:31 PM »

I'm wondering therefore why you asked me about this guy?

Because I want to know if you think he is/was a good coach, which you didn't answer.
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« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2018, 05:55:10 PM »

Don't know.

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Nor do I care given my antipathy to American football.

I understand though that he was convicted of buggering young boys in a court of law. A nasty personal habit to be sure and one to be strongly discouraged.

I still don't understand why you chose to single this fellow out from among the tens of thousands of coaching candidates out there. Very strange to be sure. Hopefully you're not implying that there might be something of that sort going on in the Bombers' dressing room. Bud Grant would have frowned on such behaviour.

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« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2018, 06:39:24 PM »

Don't know.

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Nor do I care given my antipathy to American football.

I understand though that he was convicted of buggering young boys in a court of law. A nasty personal habit to be sure and one to be strongly discouraged.

I still don't understand why you chose to single this fellow out from among the tens of thousands of coaching candidates out there. Very strange to be sure. Hopefully you're not implying that there might be something of that sort going on in the Bombers' dressing room. Bud Grant would have frowned on such behaviour.

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Feign ignorance all you want, you know why I brought him up.

Wins and losses are not the only thing that matter. How you conduct yourself as a human being matters as a coach, just like it matters for every other profession.
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« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2018, 06:53:38 PM »

Man... obtuse is a disgusting look.

Wins and losses are not the only thing that matter. How you conduct yourself as a human being matters as a coach, just like it matters for every other profession.

Absolutely correct.
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« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2018, 06:57:44 PM »

Sorry, I posted your giphy but someone decided to take it down.

Thanks - no worries.
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« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2018, 07:35:05 PM »

Feign ignorance all you want, you know why I brought him up.

Ahhhhhh, the reducto ad absurdum technique a.k.a. good old-fashioned harassment. You're right. I was just being too polite to label it as such. I won't make that mistake again.

Wins and losses are not the only thing that matter. How you conduct yourself as a human being matters as a coach, just like it matters for every other profession.

Bah, humbug! I've never been big on this conducting yourself as a decent human being thing. I shouldn't expect others to live up to this lofty ideal either then, should I?

Just win, baby! If your antics with Gatorade buckets don't stand in the way of this noble objective, then they might matter to the Ladies' Christian Auxiliary but not to me.

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« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2018, 12:43:00 AM »

Professionalism does matter. It took years for people to respect the Bombers again after the Mike Kelly era.
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« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2018, 02:44:59 PM »

How many outright jerks are in sport halls of fame? Too many to count. And frequently a large part of what made them so good was the jerk element in their characters/personality, e.g. Ty Cobb, Vince Lombardi (though yuck to American football), Punch Imlach. As they say "Nice guys finish last."

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« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2018, 01:45:40 PM »

Maas vows to tone down his temper, focus on team discipline

?I?ve looked myself in the mirror. There are things I have to change. It?s the final straw. It?s going to change,? he told Eskimos play-by-plan man Morley Scott.

?It?s my fault. I?m going to take the blame. It starts with me, the way I approach the game and the way I am is going to change. I?ll say this about penalties and I?ll say this about discipline. I haven?t done a good enough job since I?ve been here. And that?s very evident.

?We have been one of the worst teams in the league since I?ve been here. So it?s my fault and I?m going to take the blame. And I?ll tell you, from this day forward, things are going to change, starting with me, and the way I approach the game. The way I am is going to change.

?I?m going to make sure that I change so that when I look at players and I talk about discipline, they understand that it?s everybody and it starts with me as a head coach.

?So it?s not on my players. It?s on me. I need to be better. And I will. I have belief that we will get better with the changes we?re going to implement. We?re going to be practising a little bit more. We?re going to start kicking guys out of practice for messing up and start taking game time away from guys who continue to make penalties.

?It?s to the point we can?t tolerate it anymore. So it will stop. And if not, we?ll find other people who can do it.?

https://edmontonsun.com/sports/football/cfl/edmonton-eskimos/jones-eskimos-head-coach-vows-to-tone-down-his-temper-focus-on-team-discipline
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« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2018, 01:49:17 PM »

Maas vows to tone down his temper, focus on team discipline

?I?ve looked myself in the mirror. There are things I have to change. It?s the final straw. It?s going to change,? he told Eskimos play-by-plan man Morley Scott.

?It?s my fault. I?m going to take the blame. It starts with me, the way I approach the game and the way I am is going to change. I?ll say this about penalties and I?ll say this about discipline. I haven?t done a good enough job since I?ve been here. And that?s very evident.

?We have been one of the worst teams in the league since I?ve been here. So it?s my fault and I?m going to take the blame. And I?ll tell you, from this day forward, things are going to change, starting with me, and the way I approach the game. The way I am is going to change.

?I?m going to make sure that I change so that when I look at players and I talk about discipline, they understand that it?s everybody and it starts with me as a head coach.

?So it?s not on my players. It?s on me. I need to be better. And I will. I have belief that we will get better with the changes we?re going to implement. We?re going to be practising a little bit more. We?re going to start kicking guys out of practice for messing up and start taking game time away from guys who continue to make penalties.

?It?s to the point we can?t tolerate it anymore. So it will stop. And if not, we?ll find other people who can do it.?

https://edmontonsun.com/sports/football/cfl/edmonton-eskimos/jones-eskimos-head-coach-vows-to-tone-down-his-temper-focus-on-team-discipline
That is good on him that he is taking accountability and looking at himself in the mirror.  I suspect maybe his superiors had a little chat with him as well about his temper and public outbursts. 
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« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2018, 01:51:47 PM »

That is good on him that he is taking accountability and looking at himself in the mirror.  I suspect maybe his superiors had a little chat with him as well about his temper and public outbursts. 

Imagine that. Wins aren't the only thing that matters.

Good on the Eskimos organization for dealing with this. Maas needs to get his temper in check, for his sake and his team's.
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« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2018, 01:54:50 PM »

Seems to me that the Shmoes penalty woes are not likely to be fixed unless Maas himself shows constraint. Monkey see monkey do. I think Maas's discipline speeches falling on deaf ears kind of made him have a lightbulb moment about setting an example.
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« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2018, 01:55:51 PM »

Imagine that. Wins aren't the only thing that matters.

Good on the Eskimos organization for dealing with this. Maas needs to get his temper in check, for his sake and his team's.
Well I think he is making a linkage that his temper is linked to wins, because he as the leader is setting a tone that discipline does not matter.  If your leader is undisciplined, it trickles down to the soldiers.  Similar to O'Shea - as the leader, he is very even keeled and that shows in the number of penalties the Bombers take; I believe the Bombers are a league best in that regard.  
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« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2018, 02:11:11 PM »

Imagine that. Wins aren't the only thing that matters.

The idea is that the lack of discipline his team has is costing them wins, and he's taking some accountability for it. Maas and Austin are/were easy to dislike because of their attitudes, but notice it doesn't usually become an issue until they lose...

Those coaches, I think, tend to lose the room quicker and tend to see their teams have discipline issues. So I'd certainly rather a composed HC like O'Shea on my team, but in the end, you're hired to win games. Wins being the only thing that matters is a perfectly logical position to take, even if you don't agree with it yourself (I don't either).
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« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2018, 02:17:21 PM »

The idea is that the lack of discipline his team has is costing them wins, and he's taking some accountability for it. Maas and Austin are/were easy to dislike because of their attitudes, but notice it doesn't usually become an issue until they lose...

Those coaches, I think, tend to lose the room quicker and tend to see their teams have discipline issues. So I'd certainly rather a composed HC like O'Shea on my team, but in the end, you're hired to win games. Wins being the only thing that matters is a perfectly logical position to take, even if you don't agree with it yourself (I don't either).

The point of my comment is this: a professional, respectful, well-tempered coach who wins is better than an angry, disrespectful, poor-tempered one who wins.

Nice guys finish last is nothing more than a cliche. The defending champions' head coach is certainly not the latter.
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« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2018, 02:26:38 PM »

The point of my comment is this: a professional, respectful, well-tempered coach who wins is better than an angry, disrespectful, poor-tempered one who wins.

Nice guys finish last is nothing more than a cliche. The defending champions' head coach is certainly not the latter.
I agree. I think the coaches with tempers/anger issues like Maas and Austin can have short-term success, but it has an expiry date.  Where guys like O'Shea are better suited for more sustainable, longer-term success. 
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« Reply #72 on: August 15, 2018, 02:28:45 PM »

Does he say he's going to tone down his temper? We know Maas is prone to acting like a whiney child.

What does he say here? He says the team is undisciplined and it's his fault. The action he is going to take is to fine or punish players who are undisciplined.

I don't see him acknowledging his temper, that it is a problem, or that it needs to change.
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« Reply #73 on: August 15, 2018, 04:12:10 PM »

Pretty embarrassing stuff, if I'm the owner of the club he would be making a bunch of public apologies. I would expect the 1st one to occur in the locker room with all the players and coaches in attendance. One in front of all the local press and the last one on TSN during the next televised game, apologizing to all the CFL fans.

Took awhile, its a bitter pill to swallow... I don't expect he will go as far as apologizing during the next televised game (I admit that was a little over the top), lets see if he can make the changes and if they bear fruit.
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« Reply #74 on: August 15, 2018, 08:11:25 PM »

The point of my comment is this: a professional, respectful, well-tempered coach who wins is better than an angry, disrespectful, poor-tempered one who wins.

That may be what you prefer, but my point is that "a professional, respectful, well-tempered coach" who does not win is fired while the "angry, disrespectful, poor-tempered one who wins" is not.

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« Reply #75 on: August 16, 2018, 03:59:10 AM »

Maas vows to tone down his temper, focus on team discipline

?I?ve looked myself in the mirror. There are things I have to change. It?s the final straw. It?s going to change,? he told Eskimos play-by-plan man Morley Scott.

Hahaha... I'll believe that when I see it.  Lip service is easy.

If he manages to pull it off, I'll give him kudos, until then Show Me The Serenity!

P.S. I'd prefer it if he keeps destroying things: far more likely to lose against us, and far more entertaining!
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« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2018, 02:24:51 PM »

Nice guys finish last is nothing more than a cliche. The defending champions' head coach is certainly not the latter.

The Argos just fired him.

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