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« Reply #540 on: November 27, 2018, 07:28:47 PM »

I had this argument with a guy at work (although he has since been quiet about it since the beginning of this month...odd).

He complains that Laine sucks and we need to trade him because compared to Auston Matthews, Laine can only do one thing (very, very, very) well while Matthews is 'complete' and does well at most everything.

He is 100% correct in that fact, but what he fails to understand is that Laine never, ever was going to be a complete player like Jonny Toews or Auston Matthews. He's what is know as, in hockey, pro sports, and most any business, a specialist.

Expecting him to be anything else than a guy who can score many, many, many goals is completely misguided and sets fallible expectations that never were.

Turns out that scoring many, many, many goals is super important to being a successful team. Especially when you see that he is complemented by so much talent that routes out the other important aspects of the game. Put him with Scheif, Wheels, Little, Connor, etc who can play the "rest" of the game, and as a unit, we will be successful when firing on all cylinders.
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« Reply #541 on: November 27, 2018, 08:17:28 PM »

I had this argument with a guy at work (although he has since been quiet about it since the beginning of this month...odd).

He complains that Laine sucks and we need to trade him because compared to Auston Matthews, Laine can only do one thing (very, very, very) well while Matthews is 'complete' and does well at most everything.

He is 100% correct in that fact, but what he fails to understand is that Laine never, ever was going to be a complete player like Jonny Toews or Auston Matthews. He's what is know as, in hockey, pro sports, and most any business, a specialist.

Expecting him to be anything else than a guy who can score many, many, many goals is completely misguided and sets fallible expectations that never were.

Turns out that scoring many, many, many goals is super important to being a successful team. Especially when you see that he is complemented by so much talent that routes out the other important aspects of the game. Put him with Scheif, Wheels, Little, Connor, etc who can play the "rest" of the game, and as a unit, we will be successful when firing on all cylinders.

Well said. And you're bang on.

The comparison to Matthews, a centre, originates from flat out stupidity. The only thing he and Laine share in common is their draft year.

If Laine is to be compared to other players, it should be ones at his position: on the wing. (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-right-wingers-three-seasons/)
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« Reply #542 on: November 27, 2018, 08:24:05 PM »

Oh yeah? Please teach me what exactly he does outside of having a great shot?

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« Reply #543 on: November 28, 2018, 02:20:26 AM »

Jets are a mess in their own end tonight.
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« Reply #544 on: November 28, 2018, 02:26:06 AM »

Something is off with this team. 

Choked away another one
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« Reply #545 on: November 28, 2018, 02:32:10 AM »

Something is off with this team. 

Agreed. Another ugly third period.
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« Reply #546 on: November 28, 2018, 02:05:30 PM »

Jets are a mess in their own end tonight.

Agreed. There were three times during the game where I thought "I've got a bad feeling about this" while the puck was in the Jets' end, and each time within about 10 seconds Pittsburgh scored.
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« Reply #547 on: November 28, 2018, 04:57:24 PM »

Agreed. There were three times during the game where I thought "I've got a bad feeling about this" while the puck was in the Jets' end, and each time within about 10 seconds Pittsburgh scored.

Team defense has been a serious trouble spot this season, and late in the games recently. Can't hold a lead to save their lives.

Hellebuyck had a lousy night, too.
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« Reply #548 on: November 28, 2018, 05:14:35 PM »

Team defense has been a serious trouble spot this season, and late in the games recently. Can't hold a lead to save their lives.

Hellebuyck had a lousy night, too.

He's had a pretty lousy season, tbh.
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« Reply #549 on: November 28, 2018, 05:17:06 PM »

Agreed. There were three times during the game where I thought "I've got a bad feeling about this" while the puck was in the Jets' end, and each time within about 10 seconds Pittsburgh scored.


Stop thinking about things like that... you cost us the game... Wink

Yup, a stinker.  I wouldn't put this one 100% on Bucky, but still, he could have picked up his buddies.  One more save, all it would have taken.  

But you can't give the Pens chances, ever.  Our D sucked, and Buff was "Bambi'd" for the first time I've ever seen...  that has to be demoralizing.  

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« Reply #550 on: November 28, 2018, 05:41:09 PM »

He's had a pretty lousy season, tbh.

Sure, but that does tend to go hand-in-hand with how a team plays in front. In their own zone, the Jets have been pretty bad so far this season.

He should've gobbled up the puck on the second goal and he definitely should've saved the third. I can't fault him for the two other goals, though. Those were both due to glaring defensive lapses.
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« Reply #551 on: November 28, 2018, 06:22:34 PM »

Jets had 16 Giveaways (that's a terrible amount) to 6 Takeaways ...... conversely the Pens were at 5 GAways vs 3 TAways

PM kept the 4th line down to Perrault over 5 minutes & Roslovic & Lemieux under 5 ........ showing very little faith in whomever Rosy plays with IMO.
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« Reply #552 on: November 29, 2018, 04:25:34 PM »

Per Maurice, no Byfuglien and no Morrow for tonight's game vs. CHI. Niku and Schilling with take their respective spots on defense.
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« Reply #553 on: November 29, 2018, 06:23:27 PM »

when it comes down to ATOI, I'm suspecting Schill & Niku might be contributing in & around 14 minutes tonight, yet not paired together much. 
..... Chicago, at 5th least penalized, is not a rough, pound the Dmen team, so I suspect Niku may be able to show some of his skating skills.
Myers & Chiarot's time should be touching the 19 - 23 range & Trouba & Morrissey at 25 mins plus.

Hoping that Roslovic can enjoy a breakout, well at least a couple points, game.
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« Reply #554 on: November 29, 2018, 07:53:39 PM »

I expect a heavy workload for the top pairing tonight. Hopefully, Trouba's over his bout of the flu and he can get back on track.
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