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« on: February 22, 2018, 06:16:03 PM »

We had one last Saturday and another last Sunday. Another one is happening this weekend.

Anyone with information on how many players attended or whether there were any standouts? Could name positions without revealing actual names if confidentiality is an issue.

Just curious on what we do know.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 06:33:00 PM »

Thought 66Chevelle said he was planning on attending the one in Las Vegas...
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 07:15:24 PM »

Even knowing that some of our neg list players were attending would be interesting. We wouldn't need to know which neg list players. It would just show that we're getting a real look at some of those players and they are showing interest in coming to the CFL.

The reality is that players can come and go from the list without the team ever getting them in a free agent camp.

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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 07:16:38 PM »

headed to Vegas tomorrow evening... I see what I can come up with, info wise and let you all know when I get back....  I feel like a reporter now, lol...
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 07:17:43 PM »

headed to Vegas tomorrow evening... I see what I can come up with, info wise and let you all know when I get back....  I feel like a reporter now, lol...

Report well...we're counting on you!! It'll be nice to get some good unbiased and knowledgable sideline reports.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 07:22:22 PM »

Report well...we're counting on you!! It'll be nice to get some good unbiased and knowledgable sideline reports.

you got it Chief! and it won't hurt that I can get a player point of view of the experience as well...
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 07:23:24 PM »

you got it Chief! and it won't hurt that I can get a player point of view of the experience as well...

Looking forward to this....a first time ever look behind the scenes of a Bomber FA camp.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 07:25:27 PM »

I'm guessing that we'll see another 12 - 15 players added before the full TC. Many will come from these free agent camps. We've got about 74 players currently on the roster. Normally a few get replaced before ever seeing the TC or even some of the mini camps. Probably will include some of 2017 back ups or earlier signings.

Always interesting to see the domino effect when a new rookie is signed as roster size gets bigger. The team will have some sort of perceived depth chart on different positions even in the early going. We can only guess who is currently where.

This year we have less positions of concern IMO so I'm expecting mostly receivers, DB's and LB's to be the focus.

Not expecting too many more import OL, DL, RB or QB's to be added unless they need sheer numbers to run drills.

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2018, 11:15:45 PM »

headed to Vegas tomorrow evening... I see what I can come up with, info wise and let you all know when I get back....  I feel like a reporter now, lol...
Great to hear. Looking forward to your report!
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 12:23:20 AM »

headed to Vegas tomorrow evening... I see what I can come up with, info wise and let you all know when I get back....  I feel like a reporter now, lol...

put some money on the Bombers for the cup
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 01:17:35 PM »

put some money on the Bombers for the cup

just might have too!

with the marvel of modern technology, I should be able to do live updates tomorrow, of some sort anyway....  I'll be wearing my Bombers hoodie, maybe I can get an interview with one of the scouts, lol... wouldn't that be a hoot!
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 02:05:34 PM »

see if u can get some pics or video
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 02:42:10 PM »

just might have too!

with the marvel of modern technology, I should be able to do live updates tomorrow, of some sort anyway....  I'll be wearing my Bombers hoodie, maybe I can get an interview with one of the scouts, lol... wouldn't that be a hoot!

A chat with the scouts would be incredible. Please, if you have the time, take note of what we seem to focus on when doing our assessments.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 08:05:33 PM »

Will do!  I?ll see if they allow pics and stuff too... but I?m going to ask to speak to a scout, if they are there, lol
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2018, 08:08:00 PM »

Will do!  I?ll see if they allow pics and stuff too... but I?m going to ask to speak to a scout, if they are there, lol
Looks like the one in Vegas is being coordinated by McManus: https://www.bluebombers.com/free-agent-camps/ 
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2018, 08:22:39 PM »

Looks like the one in Vegas is being coordinated by McManus: https://www.bluebombers.com/free-agent-camps/ 

That?s for the info, I?ll sound like I know what I?m talking about, lol
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2018, 04:47:10 PM »

From DC: #Bombers mini-camp shaping up to be the third week of April, in Winnipeg. Dates not finalized yet, though. Any #Bombers questions as we get through the end of February, send them over all day! #FortheW
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2018, 07:52:09 PM »

So... got home from Vegas late last night... it was a fun trip, other than I was surprised about how cold it was, in the 40's... they told me that it was about the coldest that it ever gets there... go figure, I show up and it's almost a record low, lol... anyway, I came prepared, wearing my official Bomber Team hoodie sporting the big W on the front!

So, arrive at the location, a very nice high school facility on the edge of Vegas. Things looked pretty quite, started to worry a bit... drove around to the where the football facilities were and saw the setup location for player registration and sign in, parked and preceded on over.  There were a hand full of people there with clipboards filling out forms, a couple of Bomber personnel sitting at the table assisting in sign up and a couple standing by the side just talking to each other and available for questions.

Well, my friend goes up to the table to check in while I hang back to wait and not be in the way. Well, one of the gentlemen standing by the looks my direction, notices that I'm wearing Bomber gear and immediately comes my way with hand extended, "Hello, I'm Danny McManus, you a Bomber fan?"... So I precede to tell him my story and he stands there and chats with me for several minutes. Very nice and professional man, exacting what one would expect.

So after doing the cordial conversation, I started asking him some questions and like a true professional that didn't know me from Adam, answered each and every one of them without really saying anything, lol. Like "I hear we may be starting 2 national receivers", "yeah, you never know, but it's nice to have the option if we choose to"... "how many guys do you expect to invite to camp from all of the tryouts?"... "it's hard to say, we've added some additional..." and continues on and provides a very polite and complete answer basically saying 'not going to say' in a very polite way without making you feel like you were imposing on him.  I did catch up with him later as they were in between groups and we talked about the sheer volume of players out here nationally and time it takes to try and see and evaluate all of these player. Also, the good and bad of social media and how it can effect a players image, no one specifically, just how it's out there and teams do look at things like that, etc.

All of the staff were very 'in to it', coaching up everyone during drills, even running their 40. Such things as not to lean through end where they were timing but to run full on through and past about 10 yards. During drills pulling guys aside and showing them technique or what they should be doing different and giving them 'attaboys' when they responded to it next time through type of stuff... From the outside looking in is appeared to be a very positive experience for all of those trying out as all of the coaches/scouts really gave the appearence of being there for them, very approachable, and helpful with them. Though it wasn't over the top with pressure, you still got the vibe they expected you to be there to show what you could do and an expectation that you listened and followed direction. Very cool...

there were proabably 30 to 35 guys there trying out; I think there were 5 or 6 QB's, a kicker/punter, 3 or 4 running backs, a couple of linemen, and probably the rest split pretty equally between defensive backs and receivers. They started out with the timed evaluations doing the shuttle drill and running the 40. Then they started position drills, splitting the defensive players and offensive players into groups and working on specific. Lastly they brought them all together and ran coverage drills, both regular and red zone type of throws, which for those watching was the most interesting and fun.

All in all it lasted almost 4 hours and they put all in to that time, I thought. From a fan perspective, I would say that there were probably 5 or 6 guys that may get an additional look, depending on what else they have seen, or will see, and how many overall spots they generally invite to spring camps. There a couple of QB's that I think may get an invite, they had really good arm strength and showed they could make the passes needed. A couple of receivers that really shined, one of them reminded me a lot of Dressler, probably 5'7" or so, maybe a little taller, but he was fast and had really good hands. and maybe, 2 or 3 DBs/backer type positions.

One of the QB's there was Austin Bray, little brother to back up QB for the Kansas City Chiefs, Tyler Bray who played at Tennessee.  His dad and I talked quite a bit during the tryouts, about both him and his brother, who was a very good athlete in his own right. Both were multi sport stand outs in high school and both have very strong arms. Tyler can throw a football 64 mph! While his little brother Austin may not be able to throw one that fast, he did display very good arm strength and good vision. It was funny, he was the only one that chose not to force a throw when his man was covered, like everyone else did, he chose to tuck the ball and run. Which I thought was very interesting and showed a lot of smarts on his part. instead of forcing a throw and potential interception, he didn't throw. He did seem to throw a little high on a few, but, he was throwing to people he had never seen before that were running routes on the spot. But, he looked good...

other than that, it was pretty generic but still very interesting and entertaining. Again, the Bomber personnel put off the vibe that it was a professional tryout while still being very encouraging and helpful to those attending. Especially the one on one counseling that they did with almost everyone.   They sure gave off the impression that they were vested in everyone being able to showcase what they had to offer, which was cool. It really seemed to relax those attending, especially if they made a mistake, they coached them up to not get down on themselves and helped them show their best. 

It was fun, I'd go again... if you have any questions let me know...
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2018, 08:35:08 PM »

if you have any questions let me know...

How were the buffets?

How much money did you lose?

Is Celine as magical as everyone says?

Cheesy

Thanks for the update. Well done. Looking forward to seeing if anyone you saw gets an invite to camp.

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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2018, 08:56:40 PM »

It was fun, I'd go again... if you have any questions let me know.

You are definitely invested in this Chevy....I look forward to more of your analysis and updates!
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2018, 09:10:11 PM »

Thanks very much for the report Chevelle!  I read somewhere that McManus brings some QBs he knows to these camps, just to ensure that there's actually some QBs there for the drills.  Do you know if that was the case here, or were they QBs all walk-ons? 

And did you put any money on the Bombers in Vegas? 
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2018, 09:16:06 PM »

Sounds like you got a pretty good glimpse of Bomber football.   Do you think the participants got their $100 worth?  Was the one on one from pro scouts something they are going to benefit in future tryouts if they weren't successful at this one?

Surprising to hear that guys needed to be coached up about proper 40 technique.  You's think high school or college coaches would have covered that kind of thing.

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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2018, 10:37:53 PM »

A little annoyed with the world that a rando from Missouri has a better glimpse into Bomberland than people who have been fans for their whole lives...LOL jk. Thanks for the update and being a superfan, Chev  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2018, 10:57:02 PM »

You are definitely invested in this Chevy....I look forward to more of your analysis and updates!

thanks Lincoln, I'll do my best to not disappoint!

Thanks very much for the report Chevelle!  I read somewhere that McManus brings some QBs he knows to these camps, just to ensure that there's actually some QBs there for the drills.  Do you know if that was the case here, or were they QBs all walk-ons? 

And did you put any money on the Bombers in Vegas? 

my pleasure! the two QB's I was most impressed with were their on their own, one being Bray as I spent a lot of time chatting with his dad, and the other was there with his agent who I did have an opportunity to chat up as well.  As for the rest of them, maybe... but McManus did give an indication that this was the case, but definitely makes sense that he would, gotta have at least one person that can make the throws....  And no, didn't lay any bets, I was actually in Vegas for only 18 hours or so, lol. Don't even want to talk about my travel woes, once again, lol.  For sure heading back there though, cool city!

Sounds like you got a pretty good glimpse of Bomber football.   Do you think the participants got their $100 worth?  Was the one on one from pro scouts something they are going to benefit in future tryouts if they weren't successful at this one?

Surprising to hear that guys needed to be coached up about proper 40 technique.  You's think high school or college coaches would have covered that kind of thing.


For sure they got their money's worth, even if they don't get an invite. If it was their first time for a try out they got a great look at what happens and what would be expected of them. I know that one of them went to a Roughrider's tryout in Vegas, I believe, the week before as well. Didn't get a chance to talk to him when it was done to see how it compared.

I was kind of surprised about the 40 advice as well, but I did hear one of the coaches tell one player that 'he wanted to make sure that they were able to show their best', which was real cool. He could have been 'well, if he doesn't know how to give his best...'  but it all came off as genuine and as help for a first time visit to a professional try out. I think their extra effort really put the guys at ease, which in turn resulted in them truly being able to give their best.  Still, very demanding as far as execution, yet very professional when dealing with them one on one...

A little annoyed with the world that a rando from Missouri has a better glimpse into Bomberland than people who have been fans for their whole lives...LOL jk. Thanks for the update and being a superfan, Chev  Smiley

I know, right? lol... no problem, it was truly my pleasure... hopefully I can do more in the future!
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2018, 11:40:10 PM »

Great reports - thanks

How did your friend who was attending the camp do? 
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2018, 12:20:22 AM »

I think he did pretty well... he was the only middle linebacker there so he drilled with the other DBs. He felt he was a little heavy, currently 235 and he'd like to be closer to 225, and thought that he probably didn't show as well among the group. But I think he was being a little hard on himself, plus the coaches seemed to be happy with him and spoke to him at the end and was very encouraging.  How you interpret that, well....  like I said, the personnel there represented the WFC in the utmost professional way and treated everyone there with a lot of class...  I guess we'll see though, they indicated that if they would be moving on they would most likely hear something within the next 2 weeks...
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2018, 12:22:56 AM »

I?m pretty sure Tyler Bray was or is in our neg list. Pretty funny that his brother was there.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2018, 12:36:18 AM »

Great report! Just curious if they take video of these tryouts?
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2018, 12:48:57 AM »

In case you guys missed it, Ed Tait wrote an article on FA camps a month ago;

Danny McManus - Breaking Down Free Agent Camps

January 17th - Ed Tait

There are many, many mornings when Danny McManus wakes up, stares at the hotel ceiling while wiping the sleep from his eyes, and wonders out loud:

"Just where the heck am I again?"

Such is the life of a Canadian Football League scout like McManus, the hall-of-fame quarterback who now does his talent sleuthing for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers as their Assistant GM/Director of U.S. Scouting. Yes, the search for new talent means McManus and the Bombers' scouting staff cover miles upon miles of territory down south while trying to unearth new talent like the players discovered last year at free agent camps in Brian Walker, Brandon Alexander and Jovan Santos-Knox.

Bluebombers.com caught up with McManus last week during a particularly crazy stretch of travel and in advance of the first Bombers' free agent camp of the winter in Pensacola, FL on Saturday (Ted Goveia, the Bombers' Assistant GM/Director of Player Personnel will be at a camp at Costa Mesa, CA on Sunday).

What follows is the first of two stories outlining how the free agent camp process works, followed by the experience Santos-Knox had last year before signing with the club.

ON THE ROAD AGAIN..


"Right now I'm driving home, washing some clothes, and then heading back out," began McManus, the sound of the Florida highway rolling by in the background. "Ted and I were in Dallas for the College Gridiron Showcase. Then I'm in Daytona for the Tropical Bowl (held last Sunday), then it's wash the clothes again before the East-West Shrine Game, followed by the Senior Bowl.

"And then we've got the four free agent camps in January."

In addition to the camps in Pensacola and Costa Mesa this coming weekend (details here) the Bombers will be staging events in Jackson, MS and Atlanta, GA next weekend. The club will hold up to 10 more camps right through April when training camp rosters begin to solidify.

And the goal is simple: To continue to stockpile the Bombers' roster with American talent and in the process, hopefuly find the next Milt Stegall, Charles Roberts, Chris Matthews or Maurice Leggett.

"You're looking at guys who were passed over or were maybe at small schools and didn't get a chance to show anything at their pro days," McManus explained. "It could be a guy who was in the NFL and got injured and is looking to get back into the game after taking some time off to recover. Maybe it's a guy we liked at NFL camps who got off the board a little bit and we want to have another chance to see him again.

"You never know why a guy is not playing football, but you want to give him every chance to show that he can play and provide him with the right opportunity."

The Bombers have held some camps where as few as 10 players show up, others where the number of prospects totals up to 70. They will send out camp information to all the prospects they may have seen or were unable to get to within the last year, and also rely on their contacts in football and agents to get the message out to their players. McManus and Goveia also lean on the Bombers' social media accounts to make sure the camp details reach as many prospects as possible.

FOR ONE BEN FRANKLIN...

Players reserve their camp spots in advance by contacting McManus or Goveia and then need only show up on shorts and cleats - the workouts do not include hitting - and plunk down $100 for the camp.

McManus, who began his playing career with the Bombers and spent 17 years in the CFL pitching footballs before retiring, also works his network to make sure at least one quarterback is in camp.

"Otherwise," he added with a chuckle, "you know who will be throwing: It'll be me. And I was good once, but I'm not good any more. You've got to have good quarterbacks to have a good workout.

A Bombers free agent camp will feature the standard testing drills like a player's time over 40 yards and short shuttle before some positional drills. The camp ends with one-on-one sessions.

"You get all kinds of guys," said McManus. "You get guys who haven't played in five years but heard about the camp and want to come out and see if they can take one more shot at glory. A couple years ago in Los Angeles we had a father and his son come out. The son didn't want to do it, but the dad said, 'I"ll do it with ya' and they both came out.

"But once they get to the camp Ted and I want to make sure they get a very good three-hour workout. We don't want anybody wandering away from the workout saying, 'They didn't take a look at me.' We enjoy it. We enjoy coaching the guys up. We enjoy the PR part of talking up the Canadian Football League and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. We also invite alumni living in the area to come out to the workout and help us. In Atlanta, for example, James West and Milt Stegall will come out. It's good for those guys, too."

The Bombers will work out hundreds of prospects during their free agent camps and in some cases, will immediately put a player on their negotiation list - meaning they would own his CFL rights - with a quick call to CFL headquarters before the camp is even completed. Follow-up legwork after a camp would include watching more film of prospects or requesting full game tapes before the club's coaches are involved to study the tape and provide their evaluations.

After that, players who have stood out will be offered a contract and invited to mini-camp, with the staff ensuring they have a proper passport and paperwork to cross into Canada.

"At that point," McManus explains, "the player really has his shot to impress us."

POPPING OFF THE PAGE...

The Bombers found Walker, Alexander and Santos-Knox - all of whom were starters on defence last season - at their camps last winter, along with former Saskatchewan Roughriders receiver Ryan Lankford. And, much the same way free agent camp legends like Cameron Wake, Delvin Breaux, and Leggett did before them, the keys to popping off the page for talent evaluators is simple.

"Show something early," McManus said. "Whether it's your 40 time or your short shuttle... do something that gets Ted and I excited or has the guys helping us come over and say, 'You need to take a look at this kid because he did this over here' Then in your positional drills it's important just to be able to do what is asked of you. Can you listen? Can you be coached? We put them in some difficult situations to see how they react.

"Then we finish the workout with one-on-ones to see the competition. Do they rise up and compete or do they sit at the back at the line and not want to compete and try and rest on their (testing) numbers?

"Brian Walker was a guy who really popped off the page at a camp last year. In his case, he kept jumping up the line and wanted to get more reps. That's what I would advise: don't be a coward or sit at the back because then you're cutting yourself. Jump up there and show what you've got. If you have four good reps and one bad rep, we're probably going to remember at least two or three of the good ones and maybe forget about the bad one."

THE $100 GUARANTEE...

As much as the search for new talent can be exhausting - if this is Saturday, I must be in Biloxi - it's what bird-dogs like McManus and Goveia call their passion.

"Ted and I, we both love the chase," McManus said. "We love the chase of trying to find a player. The guys that get drafted in the NFL and CFL, that's easy because they can't go anywhere. But the player that everybody had a shot at and was passed over and comes and plays for us... those are the guys that make it worthwhile."

And when a player they find at a camp signs a contract and makes the team, it comes with a promise from the club: the $100 camp entry fee is handed back to them.

"There's nothing I like more than going up to a guy during camp or in the season and handing him $100," McManus said. "Usually the reaction is, 'What's this for?' We're not there for the money. We're there to find players that can help us."
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/17/danny-mcmanus-breaking-free-agent-camps/
 
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2018, 12:53:08 AM »

Cool stuff chevelle.....
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2018, 01:01:32 AM »

Great report! Just curious if they take video of these tryouts?

I don't think so, I didn't see anyone doing so anyway... plus at the end they told everyone to send in their highlight reel and to be sure to include their 'number' that was given to them that day so they could cross reference with their notes...  I thought about doing some video on my phone, but I didn't want to be that guy, you know, the one that is politely asked to leave the facilities for recording the tryouts, lol...
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2018, 01:35:59 PM »

An awesome insider report into something we as Bomber fans don't hear much about. Thanks Chevelle.
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2018, 05:09:11 PM »

An awesome insider report into something we as Bomber fans don't hear much about. Thanks Chevelle.

thank you, but it really was my pleasure... but you know, it has really gotten me itching for the season to start, lol...
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2018, 07:12:37 PM »

Hey 66 Chevelle, how did your friend make out?
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2018, 07:20:02 PM »

Hey 66 Chevelle, how did your friend make out?

See post #25...(I asked the same thing)
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2018, 09:39:14 PM »

Thanks 66 Chevelle. It's nice to get some inside info on these camps.
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2018, 07:14:16 AM »

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Take the **** video. What they are going to rough up a sixty year old man?
That would ne good press!

Take the **** video!
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2018, 08:06:03 PM »

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Take the **** video. What they are going to rough up a sixty year old man?
That would ne good press!

Take the **** video!

Rough him up...no...ask him to leave...almost definitely.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2018, 03:43:32 PM »

Rough him up...no...ask him to leave...almost definitely.

and besides the ridicule of public embarassment, I didn't want to make public something that some may consider private workouts. I know that it's an open call out and some of these guys are probably trying out for other teams as well... but I remember early on reading something posted by the mods here relating to divulging 'too much' information, so, trying to be cognizant of that request as well.

because based upon the number of 'lurkers' there are on our board, there seems to be a lot of interest generated by what we have to say. that's not to hard to believe based upon what I've seen on the other Bomber boards that are primarily made up of a few grumpy people shouting really loud about how everything sucks... we are by far the best Bomber board when it comes to being respectful (did I really say that, lol) and talking knowledgeably about the team... at least in my opinion...
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2018, 03:44:40 PM »

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We have signed 21 players from our Free Agent Camps in the past two seasons--including 7 current starters on our roster--Looking for more in New York

 
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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2018, 04:00:12 PM »

7 current starters on the roster in 2 years came from the free agent camps?

Jeffcoat, Johnson, Alexander, Walker, JSK are current starters I can think of that probably came from free agent camps last year. Who were the other two?

I can't think of any starter that might have been from a free agent camp in 2016 that is still a starter.

Alexander and Walker may not be starters or even with the team in 2018.

So yes free agent camps are a great necessary idea but I think the 21 signed and 7 starters left in 2 years is a bit over stated and somewhat underwhelming??

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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2018, 05:19:05 PM »

Starters from 2017/16 includes...
OL Bond
DB Frederick

Rotational players
DL Cole
LB Bass
LB Burnett
LB Knox

How 'bout Carmichael?  Grin
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2018, 06:05:16 PM »

Starters from 2017/16 includes...
OL Bond
DB Frederick

Rotational players
DL Cole
LB Bass
LB Burnett
LB Knox

How 'bout Carmichael?  Grin

The report said 7 current starters. Bond was great. Bass was good and made plays but he was here in 2015 -16, not 2017.  The others were part time and forgettable.

Carmichael is probably still on the suspended list but wasn't very good and certainly not still a starter.

Maybe this is the year we find some real talent among the rookies. To this point our scouting has been a weak point of concern.

Success signing CFL players in free agency is different issue with greater results:

1. Receivers: Adams, Dressler, Bowman, Coates, Demski, Lankford ( back up? )
2. QB: Nichols, Durant ( back up )
3. OL: Bryant, Hardrick, Neufeld
4. RB: Harris, LaFrance, Flanders ( back up?)
5: DB: Randle, Fenner, Gaitor, Clarke
6. DL: Okpalaugo, Nevis, Roh ( DI? )
7. ST: Medlock, Remple

That's 17 starters and 2 critical players on the kicking / ST. Four possible and / or recent back ups.

That's a very good collection of starters with a couple of DI's ratio not withstanding.

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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2018, 04:49:27 AM »

Huh?

How many guys that were not in the CFL did we get from the camps, that became starters over the years
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« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2018, 08:46:20 PM »

Good perspective from Brian Walker:

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Brian Walker
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I swear y?all kill me with the whole 'CFL my back up plan' speech. Noooo, stay here and keep trying the NFL, keep waiting for that call my boy. Right on that couch. I'll keep ballin for the both of us lol.
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"What the pay like", "Ahh, if the NFL don?t work I'll just come up there" 😒, boy you probably won't even make the **** team. Stop it
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