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« Reply #255 on: January 22, 2018, 05:04:16 PM »

Is it though?  Are we going to "start" 2 Nats on the DLine if Westerman is on the roster?  Or just one?  Unless we are starting 2, then he doesn't really affect the ratio, because we will probably have one of Corney, Ekakitie, Marouf or Thomas (should he sign here) rotating in anyways.

3 OL
1 WR
1 RB
1 FS
1 DL

There's our starting 7. 

I am not going to go around the mulberry bush with you on how valuable Westerman would be. You just don't understand the concept, or are completely oblivious too how much of a downgrade Thomas/Ekakitie is to Poop or Nevis. You keep believing that Jake Thomas or Corney represent a starter in our lineup. The rest of us will discuss reality while you discuss fantasy.

Optimally, our DL would have Westerman/Poop/Nevis/Jeffcoat taking 80% of the reps with Corney and Thomas rotating in for about 20% to keep them fresh. If the main guys could play 100% without needing rest that would be even more optimal but impossible. You seem to think that Corney and Thomas are ready to take on 50% of the reps and you are wrong. Our defence would suffer.
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« Reply #256 on: January 22, 2018, 06:01:52 PM »

I am not going to go around the mulberry bush with you on how valuable Westerman would be. You just don't understand the concept, or are completely oblivious too how much of a downgrade Thomas/Ekakitie is to Poop or Nevis. You keep believing that Jake Thomas or Corney represent a starter in our lineup. The rest of us will discuss reality while you discuss fantasy.

Optimally, our DL would have Westerman/Poop/Nevis/Jeffcoat taking 80% of the reps with Corney and Thomas rotating in for about 20% to keep them fresh. If the main guys could play 100% without needing rest that would be even more optimal but impossible. You seem to think that Corney and Thomas are ready to take on 50% of the reps and you are wrong. Our defence would suffer.

I think 80% reps for our front 4 is optomistic.  But lets go with that assumption.

So, if we field Jeffcoat/Nevis/Poop/Oko, and each fields 80% of the snaps, that leaves 20% x 4 snaps to be taken by a Nat backup.  Almost a full "starters" worth.

If we use a more realistic number of 75%, then that makes a full "starters" worth of snaps for the Nat backups.  Without any of them "starting".  And we do have other Nats that can rotate in if we actually want Jeffcoat/Nevis/Poop/Oko on the field together.

I'm not saying that Westerman would not be a welcome member of the team.   He definitely would be.  It would make ratio management easier, sure.  But if his SMS is too high, or his injury rehab in question, or contract length too long, I'm just suggesting his loss is not tragic to our Ratio. 

SMS is going to be even more of a concern this year, with actual QB's to pay, so anywhere it can be trimmed...  and I can see Westerman as an elite Nat that someone will be willing to roll out cash for. 
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« Reply #257 on: January 22, 2018, 06:06:45 PM »

I am not going to go around the mulberry bush with you on how valuable Westerman would be. You just don't understand the concept, or are completely oblivious too how much of a downgrade Thomas/Ekakitie is to Poop or Nevis. You keep believing that Jake Thomas or Corney represent a starter in our lineup. The rest of us will discuss reality while you discuss fantasy.

Optimally, our DL would have Westerman/Poop/Nevis/Jeffcoat taking 80% of the reps with Corney and Thomas rotating in for about 20% to keep them fresh. If the main guys could play 100% without needing rest that would be even more optimal but impossible. You seem to think that Corney and Thomas are ready to take on 50% of the reps and you are wrong. Our defence would suffer.

I don't believe Nevis and Poop are on the field together very often but that is mostly due to the ratio.  Also I thought Walters remarked last spring that Thomas was on the field for 50% of the snaps subbing with Cummings and Shologan.
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« Reply #258 on: January 23, 2018, 09:29:14 PM »

HOPEFULLY we can adjust that ratio so that those two can be on the field together for the majority of their reps..
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« Reply #259 on: January 23, 2018, 09:41:47 PM »

HOPEFULLY we can adjust that ratio so that those two can be on the field together for the majority of their reps..
Yep, that'd be a pretty dominant front four with Okpalaugo, Nevis, Poop and Jeffcoat.  Then sprinkle in some Ekakitie and Corney. 
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« Reply #260 on: January 24, 2018, 10:54:09 PM »

Durant a great addition, but Bombers still have work to do
http://3downnation.com/2018/01/21/durant-great-addition-bombers-still-work/



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« Reply #261 on: January 24, 2018, 10:57:12 PM »

January 24, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed National defensive back Brendan Morgan, International defensive back Steven Clarke, and national receiver Tylor Henry.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/24/bomber-add-three-roster/

Current Roster:
QBs                 5
Nationals         23
Internationals   31

Pending FAs     12
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« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2018, 12:21:09 PM »

February 1, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Anthony Gaitor. Gaitor has spent some of the past two seasons with the BC Lions while also signing an agreement with the New Orleans Saints following the 2016 season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/01/bombers-sign-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/


WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers  14 hours ago
The team has released quarterback Dom Davis.

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC   14 hours ago
The #Bombers release QB Dom Davis. Signing of Darian Durant fills No 2 spot; club high on prospects Philip Nelson and Josh Straughan
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« Reply #263 on: February 07, 2018, 12:08:57 PM »

February 6, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed pending free agent defensive back Maurice Leggett to a one-year contract.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/bombers-re-sign-maurice-leggett/


MAURICE LEGGETT  RE-SIGNS WITH BLUE BOMBERS
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/maurice-leggett-re-signs-with-blue-bombers/

"EVERYONE KNOWS I LOVE WINNIPEG."  MOE RIGHT AT HOME
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/everyone-knows-love-winnipeg-moe-right-home/

BOMBERS INSIDER  MAURICE LEGGETT & ED TAIT
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/bombers-insider-maurice-leggett-ed-tait/
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« Reply #264 on: February 07, 2018, 06:25:32 PM »

February 1, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Anthony Gaitor. Gaitor has spent some of the past two seasons with the BC Lions while also signing an agreement with the New Orleans Saints following the 2016 season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/01/bombers-sign-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/


WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers  14 hours ago
The team has released quarterback Dom Davis.

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC   14 hours ago
The #Bombers release QB Dom Davis. Signing of Darian Durant fills No 2 spot; club high on prospects Philip Nelson and Josh Straughan

I like Straughan, definitely think he'd be worth keeping around... good arm and right attitude... he could be that future guy for someone, probably too long of a sit to work out here for him...
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« Reply #265 on: February 11, 2018, 02:06:26 AM »

February 9, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed free agent receiver Adarius Bowman to a one-year contract.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/bombers-sign-three-time-cfl-star-receiver-adarius-bowman/

ADARIUS BOWMAN - INTRODUCTORY PRESS CONFERENCE
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/adarius-bowman-introductory-press-conference/

ADARIUS BOWMAN - BACK HOME
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/adarius-bowman-back-home/


How and why Adarius Bowman landed with the Bombers

Sources say there were multiple teams in the mix for star receiver Adarius Bowman, who ultimately signed a one, year deal with the Bombers in the $140,000 range.

The Riders made a substantial offer and were hot on him early while the Lions weren't willing to dedicate the cap space to another receiver. The Argos made a late push but Montreal was never really a consideration due to their unproven quarterbacking situation.
http://3downnation.com/2018/02/09/why-adarius-bowman-landed-in-the-peg/
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« Reply #266 on: February 11, 2018, 02:38:03 AM »

GM Kyle Walters - Approaching Free Agency
by Ed Tait

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have already made a pre-CFL free agency splash by adding names like Adarius Bowman and Darian Durant to address areas of needs.

And what happens next, both in advance of the opening of the annual talent grab on Tuesday and then when the market opens, should make for some interesting drama in Bomberland.

GM Kyle Walters confirmed in his annual pre-free agency address on Friday that offensive lineman Travis Bond, receiver Clarence Denmark and quarterback Dan LeFevour have all been told they will officially hit the market on Tuesday without an offer from the club.

Bond, a CFL all-star in 2016, has been caught in the club's decision to move to playing three Canadians on the O-line; the team is moving on from Denmark, even for as valuable as he has been to the franchise, while the signing of Durant led to the decision to move on from both Dom Davis, who was released, and LeFevour.

That leaves the Bombers with eight other pending free agents heading into next week: defensive backs T.J. Heath and Kevin Fogg, defensive linemen Jamaal Westerman and Jake Thomas, receiver Julian Feoli-Gudino, fullback Christophe Normand and linebackers Kyle Knox and Sam Hurl.

Walters spoke with the media for almost 30 minutes on Friday to touch on a number of free agent related subjects, ranging from the addition of Bowman, to the impact of one-year contracts on the market, to the move toward teams loading up on offence.

Here are some of the highlights of Walters' address:

On whether the Bombers might still be interested in adding receiver help now that Bowman has been brought on board:


"I guess we're looking at everything. The free agent period now... you go through scenarios the way you think they're going to unfold and then you have to be able to react. If you wanted to spend some money here and it does't go that way, where are you going to upgrade? We'll see.

It's a vague answer, but we're looking to upgrade across the board. There's certainly a domino effect. If something on the defensive side of the ball doesn't go the way you want it, can we upgrade another spot on the offence? Is there another receiver available that you might be able to upgrade, then we'll certainly explore those options as well. There are a lot of moving parts heading into free agency. There's a give and take offensively and defensively as to what you can add and what you can spend."

On where negotiations stand with the other pending free agents aside from Bond, Denmark and LeFevour:

"There are still a few on this page which are green spots, which are free agents that we're trying to sort out. We have until Tuesday to try and sort things out. I'm not going to get into specifics of if (contract talks) are going good or bad. It's a long ongoing process and there are tons of moving parts. Certainly, when we go in on Adarius like we have you reshuffle the salary cap and the domino effect of doing each individual move... you go through multiple scenarios if one of those players goes go to market, what's our plan? You go through all of this stuff. Now it's wait and see how everything unfolds."

On whether the re-signing of Ian Wild and the emergence of Jovan Santos-Knox late last season will stop the club from chasing a linebacker in free agency:

"We look at making the roster the best we can within the salary cap parameters. Jovan had a great year last year once he got on the field and played the (weak-side) linebacker spot and in college played (middle). Ian has proven he can play either spot. We also like a couple of young guys that finished the year on the practice roster.

"Our linebacker corps, albeit not the big-name guys, we think they're young and we think they're athletic. Ian in there provides some flexibility and eases our mind a bit in that he can play either position very well. There are other spots on our roster, when you look at the priorities, in regards to what it's going to cost to fill various holes and who we have in house that we think can do it currently under contract."

On what areas the club might be targeting in free agency:

"I made the comment to Mike (O'Shea) and Ted (Goveia, Assistant GM), Ryan (Rigmaiden, Director of College Scouting) and Danny (McManus, Assistant GM) that this has certainly been the most diverse opinions when we all get together, as to how we see things.

"I've said this before back when I took over and we headed to free agency, we could all sit here and everybody would know the holes on the roster and what obviously needed to be fixed. It didn't take a lot of thought or time when we'd all get together. We'd all say 'We need to fix this, this and this...' As you get closer to a Grey Cup calibre team, which I believe we are getting towards where we've transitioned to a being a solid football team now, it's about getting from a solid football team to a championship football team. There are less roster moves to be made, but they're more scrutinized because there are less of them.

"It's been an interesting couple of months with the group of us trying to figure out exactly what the best plan of attack is to get our roster from being solid to being championship, which I think is the toughest part in all of sports, to get over that hump."

On balancing the temptation to fill holes via free agency, given the number of players available because of the recent trend toward one-year contracts, versus the new talent the scouting department might find:

"Any position where there are a high number of (free agents) I think the top guys, like every year, are going to go out and get their money early. What you're going to see is the second or third day, which you see every year, certain positions come down to earth. That's where the agents start managing expectations for their clients, unfortunately.

"That's going to be an interesting dynamic, those first couple of days, where the top-end guys get their money early. And then teams are going to have to evaluate how much they have to spend. I do believe there will be some solid veteran players maybe two-three days into free agency going, 'Hmmm... that didn't quite go as I thought it might and maybe we get some value with some veteran players at a more cost-effective rate.

"The first 24 hours will be very interesting, and then you take a deep breath and see what the landscape looks like still."
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/gm-kyle-walters-approaching-free-agency/

Kyle Walters - Free Agency Statement (Video)
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/kyle-walters-free-agency-statement/
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« Reply #267 on: February 12, 2018, 05:36:27 AM »

I say pay Medlock a lot more money.  He deserved every penny he got.
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« Reply #268 on: February 12, 2018, 09:19:27 AM »

I say pay Medlock a lot more money.  He deserved every penny he got.
Medlock already re-signed.
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« Reply #269 on: February 12, 2018, 10:13:48 AM »

Normand has been pretty solid the last couple of years.... going to re-sign him or roll with Miller and Rush??
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