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KINGCHARLES
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« Reply #360 on: March 30, 2018, 01:19:26 PM »

Flutie, Moon and Theissman all started in the CFL and used their success here to gain a starting gig in the NFL.

*Flutie played in the NFL from 1986-1989 started 14 games and was 9-5 as a starter. Then came to the CFL and embarrassed the CFL. Somewhere I read if Flutie would have played his entire football career in the CFL he may have thrown for over 120,000 yards and over 700 TD's.
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« Reply #361 on: March 30, 2018, 01:39:12 PM »

*Flutie played in the NFL from 1986-1989 started 14 games and was 9-5 as a starter. Then came to the CFL and embarrassed the CFL. Somewhere I read if Flutie would have played his entire football career in the CFL he may have thrown for over 120,000 yards and over 700 TD's.

Interesting theory.... those projected numbers seem accurate based on if he maintained his numbers over his 20 year career.  He played 20 pro seasons (NFL and CFL) and was only a legit starter for 9-10 of them.  Do you think he could have played the same 20 seasons in the CFL if he was a starter for all 20 seasons?  Highly doubt it.
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« Reply #362 on: March 30, 2018, 01:48:44 PM »

Interesting theory.... those projected numbers seem accurate based on if he maintained his numbers over his 20 year career.  He played 20 pro seasons (NFL and CFL) and was only a legit starter for 9-10 of them.  Do you think he could have played the same 20 seasons in the CFL if he was a starter for all 20 seasons?  Highly doubt it.
I think he may have played the same for at least 15 of 20 seasons in the CFL which still would probably get him over the 100k mark and over 600 TD's.....Then again if he started out in the CFL in 1986 he may have been part of some teams that flourished under 3 QB systems.
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« Reply #363 on: March 30, 2018, 02:00:20 PM »

On the Manziel topic though, I would love to see this guy in the CFL. I don't care about the off field antics, I wanna see what he can do on the field. If he truly does want to play football and care about football I think he should attempt a 2 year stint in the CFL to prove himself to the NFL. I predict that if he plays in the CFL it won't be for Hamilton. I have a feeling he ends up in Montreal or some other big city. I wanna say BC too because Buono has been known to spend a lot of money on QB's in the past. Maybe Saskatchewan after the Collaros experiment horribly fails. Manziel and his attitude would fit perfectly in Jones's locker room.

Some CFL star players that played for big NCAA programs and did stints in the NFL have referred to the CFL as "football being fun again" and kind of reminding them of playing football as a kid. If thats the case with Johnny Football I suggest people do research on what he did in High School as that is where the Flutie type of player comparisons originated.
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« Reply #364 on: April 02, 2018, 12:19:59 AM »

*Flutie played in the NFL from 1986-1989 started 14 games and was 9-5 as a starter. Then came to the CFL and embarrassed the CFL. Somewhere I read if Flutie would have played his entire football career in the CFL he may have thrown for over 120,000 yards and over 700 TD's.

lay off the Flutie flakes, that sugar high can lead to some crazy thinking LOL

There is one thing that is for certain, his numbers would have been very impressive if he had played the CFL his entire career, the numbers presented above are a little silly.
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« Reply #365 on: April 02, 2018, 02:10:25 AM »

When Flutie played up here, he was in a league of his own. He was voted the top  player in CFL history for a reason.
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« Reply #366 on: April 02, 2018, 09:13:55 AM »

lay off the Flutie flakes, that sugar high can lead to some crazy thinking LOL

There is one thing that is for certain, his numbers would have been very impressive if he had played the CFL his entire career, the numbers presented above are a little silly.

I figured it out, and those projected numbers are pretty accurate if Flutie played 20+ full seasons in the CFL, while achieving his prime stats consistently for all 20+ seasons and starting all 18 games of every season.
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« Reply #367 on: April 02, 2018, 10:57:49 AM »

Manziel should play for Hamilton . start off with Hamilton and start playing. Play a year and then an NFL team might be interested.
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« Reply #368 on: April 02, 2018, 01:16:10 PM »

*Flutie played in the NFL from 1986-1989 started 14 games and was 9-5 as a starter. Then came to the CFL and embarrassed the CFL. Somewhere I read if Flutie would have played his entire football career in the CFL he may have thrown for over 120,000 yards and over 700 TD's.

I take umbrage with the statement above, without the CFL Flutie fades away shortly after 1989 unlikely to be given a chance in the NFL again.  Fact is the CFL game was a perfect fit for Fluite's abilities and he excelled, nobody was embarrassed.
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« Reply #369 on: April 02, 2018, 01:26:40 PM »

Flutie was a Heismann trophy winner and the NFL didn't want him....Said he was too small to play their game...Well Mr. Flutie went put and proved them wrong right from the get go...He made a name for himself in the CFL and their tune down south changed remarkably...Manziel 'could' do the same..His circumstances are quite a bit different but I can see him going down the same road now that it appears he's straightened his act out
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« Reply #370 on: April 02, 2018, 04:42:36 PM »

Flutie was good but he didn?t play on bad teams Calgary and Toronto. 120,000 yards. No way. He might get close to the top three .
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« Reply #371 on: April 03, 2018, 02:26:15 AM »

I take umbrage with the statement above, without the CFL Flutie fades away shortly after 1989 unlikely to be given a chance in the NFL again.  Fact is the CFL game was a perfect fit for Fluite's abilities and he excelled, nobody was embarrassed.

Excellent point - he didn?t embarrass anyone, he excelled in the CFL - both he and the CFL benefitted.
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« Reply #372 on: April 03, 2018, 01:13:20 PM »

Excellent point - he didn?t embarrass anyone, he excelled in the CFL - both he and the CFL benefitted.
Pretty sure what KINGCHARLES meant was Flutie embarrassed the players he played against because he was so good.
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« Reply #373 on: April 08, 2018, 09:02:28 AM »

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23069095/johnny-manziel-returns-gridiron-spring-league
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« Reply #374 on: April 10, 2018, 05:01:36 AM »

Interesting to see him actually competing....he certainly needs more reps to help get rid of the rust being out of football and peak conditioning required to be a legit NFL/CFL QB prospect....I have a feeling he will end up with the Cats but whether or not he still has the right stuff to become their starting QB is a long shot at best.
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