Started by AngryGreg, January 26, 2014, 04:25:21 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 23, 2016, 03:10:59 PMSounds like buff is close heard zip on Ladd. Trade him and someone else for Hamonic!
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 27, 2016, 12:12:36 AMId trade Ladd n Pav for Ham in a sec.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 03:16:48 PMFlames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 03:44:29 PMDid you watch the whole replay including the hit on Wideman and him getting up and heading to the bench? Listen to the commentators...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOx0Cwi6wR0If you just watch the gif's a completely different look...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZEjWLgpMY
Quote from: Colton on January 29, 2016, 04:32:57 PMSuch a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 04:03:31 PMThat's the exact replay I've watched and what's been shown on TV and online. What exactly am I listening to from the commentators?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 04:42:48 PMMy thoughts exactly. You stop, apologize, and make sure he's okay. Right then and there. Wideman waited until his next shift to go and say sorry. That seems pretty odd.How anybody could reasonably defend what he did is beyond me.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 05:14:54 PMTheir first reaction was that he didn't see the linesman. Wideman had to get to the bench and sit down before he fell down. He was not in his right mind, and should have been sent to the quiet room. You can see how dazed he was on the bench. By the time he got his faculties back, he was back out on the ice, and apologized. I really think he should have been sent for protocol, but no hockey player would ever volunteer for that, teams and the league have to be a lot more proactive in sending these guys off.Not defending the action or outcome, just explaining that it wasn't a blatant attack on an official. He didn't skate up to an unsuspecting ref and whack him. He was heading to his safe place in a diminished capacity after whacking his head off the glass, and as a well camouflaged linesman skated into his path he brought his arms up (still holding his stick) to protect himself. Was it intentional? Was it an attack on an official? Is he known for this kind of behaviour? Not at all.Is it an offence deserving suspension? Yes. He will get 10 games minimum. Just like a player gets a penalty when his stick hits someone inadvertently, or gets his stick caught between another players legs. Not intentional, but actionable. I just think he's getting a bad rap for what is obviously an accident, and that the league should have stepped in and put both Wideman and the linesman through the protocol. That's what its for. And its up to the league to make it happen, hockey players and refs are "too tough" to voluntarily subject themselves to protocol.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 05:26:19 PMWho cares? How is that is any way relevant to what actually happened?And you have no idea what he was feeling. So, don't try and tell anyone how you claim to know. The fact is he shoved a linesman after skating in a straight line from the top of the face-off circle with his head up and after slamming his stick on the ice in what appears to be frustration. And it isn't like he just skated into Henderson. He shoved him. He made the deliberate act of shoving him.And he should be getting a bad rap for what he did. Watching the entirety of the replay shows it looks like anything but an accident. I don't see how there is a valid argument otherwise.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 11:56:15 PMAnd neither do you. What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?