Personnel changes for next game

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

We aren't seeing that from Nichols either. IIRC Moxey has been a physical player in the past. I mentioned he has played SAM and DHB.

I'd be all for replacing Nichols with an unknown player we stashed on our PR. Of the 2 choices on our PR, neither seems to be that candidate.

That's also why I asked whether a Vaval Moxey combo would be better than the current combo.

I am expecting a mini airlift for our PR if the coaches are less content with a status quo.

I've noticed quite a few times Moxey watching teammates making tackles, either he's nursing an injury or he's not enthusiastic to get involved.  Thinking back to past Ti-Cat secondaries, pre-Katsantonis low involvement seemed to be their modus operandi.

[Blue In BC]

I've noticed quite a few times Moxey watching teammates making tackles, either he's nursing an injury or he's not enthusiastic to get involved.  Thinking back to past Ti-Cat secondaries, pre-Katsantonis low involvement seemed to be their modus operandi.

All the more reason to bring in a 2 or 3 new players at DB. Whether that is TC cuts or recent NFL free agents.

[buckzumhoff]

I'd put Petersen in at running back get some receivers . And offensive coordinator will have to change his game last two games he's running really bad pass pattern plays.  And passing short out passes is a waste unless someone's open. But our receivers can't break tackles and run fast. White going deep is never really open.

[RebusRankin]

I'd put Petersen in at running back get some receivers . And offensive coordinator will have to change his game last two games he's running really bad pass pattern plays.  And passing short out passes is a waste unless someone's open. But our receivers can't break tackles and run fast. White going deep is never really open.

Petersen over whom at RB?

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Petersen over whom at RB?

Oliveira lol. All of these cheaper guys are absolutely destroying the "best running back in league" this year by a wide margin.

At least Petersen can run off tackle.

[dd]

Oliveira lol. All of these cheaper guys are absolutely destroying the "best running back in league" this year by a wide margin.

At least Petersen can run off tackle.

But Brady is the best running back in the league, blah, blah, blah....what a joke that is.

[Blue In BC]

But Brady is the best running back in the league, blah, blah, blah....what a joke that is.

If he rushes for 49 yard in this next game he will be the # 1 yardage rusher in 9 games. At the moment he sits at # 3 but has played 1 game less than Mills or Theis.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

If he rushes for 49 yard in this next game he will be the # 1 yardage rusher in 9 games. At the moment he sits at # 3 but has played 1 game less than Mills or Theis.

I see Rankin dropping fast from first to fourth.

[RebusRankin]

Oliveira lol. All of these cheaper guys are absolutely destroying the "best running back in league" this year by a wide margin.

At least Petersen can run off tackle.

Trolling?

Petersen is a JAG.

[Jesse]

But darling Brady is the best running back in the league, blah, blah, blah....what a joke that is.

Over the past few years, he has been.

We all know he doesn't have the top end speed of some other guys. It's a coaching fail that we don't utilize other guys for that role. There is still not a more complete back in the league though. Even with our complaints over his utilization, he's still leading the league in rushing yards (on a per game basis), with one of the top averages.

[Tecno]

Brady's problem isn't that he won't get decent yards, it's that he'll almost never bust 40 yarders like the top guys do. And he's pretty useless in the red zone... How many rushing TDs in the last 2 years?

Worse, is he is very bad at 2nd and short. He got stuffed so many times we rarely use him that way now.

He is also the easiest to tackle now, just touch his legs. His balance isn't great. He is often picking the wrong holes.

It's costing us every game. I'm not saying he's horrible, but he isn't good enough for the price. Not with almost every team having better guys at a third the price.

Lastly, Brady will never have a 200 yard, 60y runs game like Horvath just did, and Rankin does regularly.

[RebusRankin]

Brady's problem isn't that he won't get decent yards, it's that he'll almost never bust 40 yarders like the top guys do. And he's pretty useless in the red zone... How many rushing TDs in the last 2 years?

Worse, is he is very bad at 2nd and short. He got stuffed so many times we rarely use him that way now.

He is also the easiest to tackle now, just touch his legs. His balance isn't great. He is often picking the wrong holes.

It's costing us every game. I'm not saying he's horrible, but he isn't good enough for the price. Not with almost every team having better guys at a third the price.

Lastly, Brady will never have a 200 yard, 60y runs game like Horvath just did, and Rankin does regularly.

Ottawa-Bell and Adebobyo = Nope
Toronto-Hicks and Smith-Nope
Hamilton-RoundtreE and Augustine-No
Montreal-Theis-He's good but I'll say no
Saskatchewan-Ouellete-Nope
BC-Butler-No

Mills and Rankin-You can make a case.

I'd say you're wrong that almost every team has a back better than Brady.

As for the third of the price comment, Brady is at $290,000, so a third is about 97k but let's round it up to 100k

Bell, Mills, Ouellete, Rankin, Leake, Butler, Adebobye all make over 100k.

So you're wrong on that too.

[Jesse]

Brady and Mills are producing about the same right now.

Rankin and Theis have a half yard more per carry this year.

Brady is the only one doing it for the past 5 years. Other contenders rise and fall. Brady is always there.

[Tecno]

Ottawa-Bell and Adebobyo = Nope
Toronto-Hicks and Smith-Nope

Lol, start with the worst ones...

Hamilton-RoundtreE and Augustine-No
Montreal-Theis-He's good but I'll say no
Saskatchewan-Ouellete-Nope
BC-Butler-No

You forget what Rountree did to us in week 2??  He trounced us that game and Brady didn't do much to help us win.

Theis?  He's way better so far this season than Brady.  Go read the MTL GDT threads each week.  There's always comments on what he's doing.  Dude is pulling off miracles and bouncing off D's like he's Pinball.  Oh ya, and they also have Scott III (when he's not hurt) who ripped us a new one in the ESF and is a great back.

Ouellette this year and last, when he's not hurt, is (and I really hate to say this) much better than Brady.  Mostly due to having the best RB coach in the league.  He's getting all the hard yards, hurdling, plowing, spinning.  Seen Brady spin or hurdle lately?  I think he spins once a season.

Forget Butler (who is not good), and look at Horvath.  Dude just had a game vs us that Brady could only ever dream of having.  Did you see how he outran every single player on our D who were full spriting?  You think Brady can do that?  And that was before our D was tired, on his first big run!

Mills is basically the same back as Brady.  That's a wash.

McAllister, if you can call him a RB, ripped us a new one 3 different ways, and like Horvath, is miles faster than Brady.

Rankin is a wunderkind who is clearly the best RB this season.  Teams now devote 2 or 3 players to stopping him on every snap.  Even when he's not getting yards he's opening everything up for mediocre Cody and that middling REC corps.  And they have Leake too!

As for the third of the price comment, Brady is at $290,000, so a third is about 97k but let's round it up to 100k

Bell, Mills, Ouellete, Rankin, Leake, Butler, Adebobye all make over 100k.

So you're wrong on that too.

Nice math.  How much more than $100k?  Maybe $120k for most?  $135 for the GC winning Oullette?  Ooh, then Brady makes 2.5X - 3X than them.  Big difference.  The point still stands.  Even if Brady only made only $100k more, that's a lot of SMS you need to justify.

I don't see how one can be a watcher of every CFL game and not see how in many games these other teams' backs are making a huge, game-breaking difference.  No, not every game, but the best are causing their teams to win at least a few.  Brady's had maybe 1 good game this season where he was key to our win.  The others are simply more impactful, sorry!

I don't care about any of the stats.  I'm looking at are these guys getting the tough conversions on 2nd & 4.  Are they regularly busting 30Y runs?  Are they getting TDs, or close enough to the GL that the SY can come in?  Do they get stuffed at important moments, or do they make sure they get what is needed?  Can they run when the other team is stuffing the box (Brady: no)?  Are they a threat outside too?  Or just let the entire D key on the A&B gaps?

Probably most importantly, are D's still keying on Brady, and dedicating extra resources to stopping him?  Are they honoring the RPO threat?  No.  Teams just decide pre-snap if it's going to be a Brady run (with 80% accuracy somehow) and then stuff the box.  And if not, they don't honor any RPO and everyone drops back.  (That's partly why our RB draws have been pretty successful.)  This is a far cry from 3 years ago when TSN would talk nonstop about how every D needs to spend mega-resources accounting for Brady.  Even Suits doesn't mention that anymore...

I watch every game and I see the outsized impact many of these backs are having.  Brady is not doing the same.  No, it's not every game, but it's enough games to stand out.

Jesse is correct that Brady is certainly more available.  And that's a definite +1.  Because otherwise you need 2 great backs like MTL has -- otherwise you face a SSK situation where your backup backs are garbage.  Kudos to Brady for better training and conditioning.  However, that still doesn't always help you win games if you aren't making the tough yards.

Think back to how AH would help win so many games in the late stages.  I can really only think of 2-3 games in Brady's entire career where he singlehandedly did that.  Think of all the cups we lost with Brady.  2 of the 3 were partly due to Brady not being able to rip off multiple 1st downs near the end -- we lost winnable games because we couldn't drive the ball when ahead, and most of those started with mediocre Brady runs.

Maybe we need to face it, that Brady is a good, sturdy and reliable back, but not a super wunderkind one.  We can't rely on him to close out games, and we need to not think of him as AH.  He should just be a piece of the puzzle and not the centerpiece that HE wants to be and that many think he is.  And, as a result, maybe he should get paid more like any other piece, plus a normal NAT bonus.