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Started by Blue In BC, April 29, 2026, 02:30:32 PM

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Tecno

Quote from: Jesse on May 01, 2026, 10:57:52 AMI imagine your reserve will change game to game depending on what you might likely need in each game.

Teams will obviously still be able to use the 1GIR and to pay PR players whatever they like.

But will they though (on the 1GIR)?  (See "cleaned up language" thread.)

The PR "pay what you want" thing I fully agree with and wonder why everyone thinks just because a non-ELC player goes to PR they suddenly only get PR money.  A middling vet contract is a contract and (unless it says otherwise) they get that contracted money.

Of course some will doom about "PR sniping", but it never happens, and you can solve it just by moving the snipee to reserve/AR the snipe-attempt-day anyhow.  And the player has to agree to being sniped!  If they are getting their full contract $ on PR, with full knowledge they are just being stashed (i.e. wanted, but not for this week's game or whatever), would they leave for similar $ elsewhere?
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Quote from: Tecno on May 02, 2026, 04:17:09 AMMaybe it's confusing because you're not thinking from the perspective of whoever pushed this change.  From what I read it sounds like this push was from the CFLPA, and maybe from the commish.  Until I read otherwise, I'll assume the teams weren't the main proponents.

CFLPA wants it for your 3rd bolded point: 2 more players making bank (vs PR money).  That's really all the CFPLA wants, more players earning more money (and safety).  They literally care about nothing else (nor should they), beyond tokenism ("we want the cfl to succeed!").

League would want it as it sounds like they want to cut down on the shenanigans (see the "cleaned up language" thread).  Make stashing 2 guys legit and transparent -- everyone wins.

Why not just +2 the AR?  The teams & league may not have wanted it.  1) That's a very tough change to later reverse if it doesn't work out -- whereas the reserve can be tweaked every season without trouble.  2) May complicate how the teams structure sets & schemes and roster composition -- GM's/HC's may not want to have rewrite all of their carefully crafted plans.  3) If they +2'd the AR without any changes to 1GIR, teams would have gobbled up the +2 and *still* stashed another 2 on 1GIR.  4) Too late for '26 season to +2 the AR anyhow -- have to announce that sort of change in Dec.


I don't find it confusing at all. Whether it has an impact at all on stashing players on the 1 game IR, I doubt. We'll see players still moved to 1 game IR.

I'm not suggesting a 60 man AR ( as an extreme example ). However if you add more players to the AR, there is less need to stash players in that sense.

If you can create a reserve list, you can add or reduce the number on the AR in the future.

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I can't see how expanding the AR is ever a concern.

NFL is 53 players AR and 16 PR.  And they field only 11 players a side.

CFL should be at least the same, especially since we have ratio to deal with.

8 players less to cover 2 more positions, that's a 10 player difference.

Any added players on an expanded roster would no doubt be min wage/ELC types.  So the $SMS wouldn't jump too dramatically.
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There is a difference between Active Roster & Game Day Roster.

NFL AR is 53 but the GDR is 47 (or 48 if a team dresses 8 OL). That leaves 5-6 players on the Inactive List which is just another name for what the CFL calls the Reserve List.

The CFL has effectively increased the AR by 2 players. In previous iterations of the Reserve List, the reserve players (or inactive players) were considered to be part of the AR.
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Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 02, 2026, 01:06:21 PMI'm not suggesting a 60 man AR ( as an extreme example ). However if you add more players to the AR, there is less need to stash players in that sense.

If you can create a reserve list, you can add or reduce the number on the AR in the future.

Well, then take more of your "cost" tack justifying (or not) the reserve vs AR expansion.  How about away games?  AR guys would fly out and need a hotel room.  Reserve guys...?  Will the reserve fly out?  I would assume if no one is GTD then the answer is "no"?

So there's one other reason the league would allow +2 reserve instead of +2 AR.

(And I'm just playing devil's advocate and trying to figure it out too.  I'm with many here that +2 AR would be nothing but a good thing for us fans.)
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Quote from: Tecno on May 03, 2026, 04:44:34 AMWell, then take more of your "cost" tack justifying (or not) the reserve vs AR expansion.  How about away games?  AR guys would fly out and need a hotel room.  Reserve guys...?  Will the reserve fly out?  I would assume if no one is GTD then the answer is "no"?

So there's one other reason the league would allow +2 reserve instead of +2 AR.

(And I'm just playing devil's advocate and trying to figure it out too.  I'm with many here that +2 AR would be nothing but a good thing for us fans.)

I think it's safe to say some players are nicked every week after the 1st game. Whether they can play is always a TBD. We saw that last year.

So yes I think the reserve list travels with the team. It does add some additional cost but doesn't the team charter a plane? Players probably double up in hotels I'd guess.

The other question I posed was do the 2 reserve players get changed game to game to adjust for those that might need to a GTD? If so where do those moved from the reserve go?
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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 03, 2026, 01:11:29 PMI think it's safe to say some players are nicked every week after the 1st game. Whether they can play is always a TBD. We saw that last year.

So yes I think the reserve list travels with the team. It does add some additional cost but doesn't the team charter a plane? Players probably double up in hotels I'd guess.

The other question I posed was do the 2 reserve players get changed game to game to adjust for those that might need to a GTD? If so where do those moved from the reserve go?

There's always a certain amount of rotation between AR to IR to PR.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on May 03, 2026, 01:43:41 PMThere's always a certain amount of rotation between AR to IR to PR.

It's just an odd situation that a healthy player on the reserve would need to be bumped somewhere.

I also note that if even if they choose to increase the AR by 2 players, the same situation exists. Not every replacement need can be covered. The odds might improve a bit but who the next man up depends on who is nicked.

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