Injuries

Started by Blueforlife, August 22, 2025, 03:25:12 AM

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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 23, 2025, 04:59:20 PMFor what it's worth, I read that Schoen was expected to play on LD ( per Hodges ). I'm not sure since he was a DNP in the last practice this week but he has been practising and running.

It would be nice to get him back so we'll see how this works out.

I think Hodge saw that one practice and jumped the gun a little.

Schoen obviously practiced once, but missed the next day. MOS said he needed a little more time.

I'm sure they'll put him in if he says he's ready to go, but nothing we've seen indicates that yet.
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bunker

I would be surprised if we picked up a receiver mid season from another team, and even more surprised if it was someone who has not played for us before. Not O'Shea's M.O.

I wouldn't rush Schoen back. Odds we win in Regina are small and odds he's the difference between winning and losing even smaller. The fact he did not practice 2 days in a row to me means he's not yet ready.

Jesse

Quote from: bunker on August 23, 2025, 05:23:10 PMI would be surprised if we picked up a receiver mid season from another team, and even more surprised if it was someone who has not played for us before. Not O'Shea's M.O.

I wouldn't rush Schoen back. Odds we win in Regina are small and odds he's the difference between winning and losing even smaller. The fact he did not practice 2 days in a row to me means he's not yet ready.

But MOS' MO is that guys don't need to practice.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 09:58:49 AMHe's not?  He's supposed to be our 2025 Lawler.  He is the savior, because he has to be!  Assume Demski is in for a moment.  Schoen takes Sterns spot (if IR'd, otherwise Mitchell).  All of a sudden our REC corps is looking very legit instead of anemic.  Zach coming into form and the OL not being total suckitude... watch out league!

So do we Davis Alexander him?  Well, not if he is one & done like Davis, as winning the LDC by itself doesn't buy us much.  But let's say he can win us the next 3 games before blowing up his knee for good... do we take that?  Then Pokey comes back...

MTL thought it was worth it to risk Davis.  And he's the irreplaceable QB, not "just a REC".

Make you think.


This is a crazy opinion, if there's risk to Schoen's career I would sit him out for the rest of the season, need him or not, just so they can continue to employ him for years to come.  At some point he could lose his physical skills but he's always going to have the football smarts to play like an older Weston Dressler, Steve Tasker or Darren Flutie which is extremely valuable.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 23, 2025, 05:43:14 PMThis is a crazy opinion, if there's risk to Schoen's career I would sit him out for the rest of the season, need him or not, just so they can continue to employ him for years to come.  At some point he could lose his physical skills but he's always going to have the football smarts to play like an older Weston Dressler, Steve Tasker or Darren Flutie which is extremely valuable.

We've already seen Schoen go in and out this season. Now we need him at 100%.
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TBURGESS

I don't think Schoen will be 100% this season.
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bunker

Quote from: Jesse on August 23, 2025, 05:30:03 PMBut MOS' MO is that guys don't need to practice.

:D
We'll see I guess

The Zipp

wilson had zero catches in the final Jets preseason game - i would be shocked if he makes the team or PR.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 23, 2025, 07:12:41 PMI don't think Schoen will be 100% this season.

I'm not sure Schoen will ever be 100% again.  And if not, why not use him while we have him under contract??  He does nothing to help sitting in the tub.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: bunker on August 23, 2025, 05:23:10 PMI would be surprised if we picked up a receiver mid season from another team, and even more surprised if it was someone who has not played for us before. Not O'Shea's M.O.

Too true.  Mafia gonna mafia.  "We're happy with the guys we have."

However, if Sterns is out 6+ games, and Schoen isn't coming back soon, then we almost certainly need more top talent.  eh?  Pokey would fill one spot, but still the other... and maybe even another if D.Mitchell doesn't produce soon!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 23, 2025, 04:58:10 PMThey're not trading Coxie, you have to be realistic, I would check in with BC, Sask. or the Ti-Cats for extra parts that don't fit in.  I mentioned Woli because he hasn't been able to get back on the field even though he's been healthy for 2 games now, sitting behind Kiondre Smith and BOLO who may also be available. Everybody's favourite Tyler Ternowski is currently injured but he doesn't bring enough skill to make him worth pursuing.

Sask. has Mitchell Picton a perennial backup receiver on a team loaded with great receivers, he's been in the league for 6 years as mostly a reliable part-timer with a skill level close to Woli.  He knows the playbook like the back of his hand and could play any receiver position in his sleep.

The Lions are another team with an excess of good receivers, they recently picked up vet Hergy Mayala and plunked him on their PR list as insurance.  Anyone who thinks he's not much of a receiver needs to review his highlight package from 2024 with the Elks, he reinvented himself as a speedster who could also catch balls in traffic.  It takes motivation to re-invent oneself.

You're still thinking too small!  Read my lips: HOME. CUP. YEAR.

And you're also fixated on NATs still.  I like your zest for them, but it's not enough.  We need BIG STARS.

Ideally we find a lower team unhappy with their star (bad fit, etc) who wants to shed the contract, especially if it includes '26.  But then we have the complication of being stuck with "not just a rental".  We'd have to really want the guy as a puzzle piece in '26 for that to make sense.

Gino sure would look great here, but that's yet another tall lanky REC, when what we really need (assuming Pokey returns) are some mid-size IMP clutch guys with good hands.  Like Burnham used to be.  Hardy would be peeeerrrrfect.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 08:45:38 AMYou're still thinking too small!  Read my lips: HOME. CUP. YEAR.

And you're also fixated on NATs still.  I like your zest for them, but it's not enough.  We need BIG STARS.

Ideally we find a lower team unhappy with their star (bad fit, etc) who wants to shed the contract, especially if it includes '26.  But then we have the complication of being stuck with "not just a rental".  We'd have to really want the guy as a puzzle piece in '26 for that to make sense.

Gino sure would look great here, but that's yet another tall lanky REC, when what we really need (assuming Pokey returns) are some mid-size IMP clutch guys with good hands.  Like Burnham used to be.  Hardy would be peeeerrrrfect.


You assume other team's GM's are mostly idiots who'd be willing to trade any of their top receivers to the Bombers because they're hosting the GC, that isn't happening unless Walters gives up a valuable asset they covet.  Pinball is the easiest to dupe, could offer him Willy and he'd likely trade almost anyone, including Kelly! 

Bombers need to bring in a plug and play receiver, they don't have time to teach a newcomer how to fit into the offence and run basic routes or bring another rookie with potential up to speed in time for next season.  Help is needed right now, pick an underrated asset that is not being used by another team for a minimal payment, Walters has been very good at doing this in the past.

bunker

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 08:45:38 AMYou're still thinking too small!  Read my lips: HOME. CUP. YEAR.

And you're also fixated on NATs still.  I like your zest for them, but it's not enough.  We need BIG STARS.

Ideally we find a lower team unhappy with their star (bad fit, etc) who wants to shed the contract, especially if it includes '26.  But then we have the complication of being stuck with "not just a rental".  We'd have to really want the guy as a puzzle piece in '26 for that to make sense.

Gino sure would look great here, but that's yet another tall lanky REC, when what we really need (assuming Pokey returns) are some mid-size IMP clutch guys with good hands.  Like Burnham used to be.  Hardy would be peeeerrrrfect.


...like Dalton Schoen?

TecnoGenius

Quote from: bunker on August 24, 2025, 06:36:46 PM...like Dalton Schoen?

Sure, Schoen fits the bill... if he gets out of the tub.  HOWEVER, with his apparent fragility, do we want him doing the bruiser crossers taking the beatings?  Maybe not.

We might want to deploy Schoen as more of a one-on-one threat deeper or wider, where he can work his scramble-rules magic and not take too much wood.

I stand by the statement we won't need another "lanky", as we'll have at least 2 of Wheatie, Pokey, Mitchell.
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