Post game analysis/Good-Bad-Ugly

[barbk]

The only bad thing I have to add is the food concession in the upper level... I usually don't complain but wow it is getting worse for service and food quality.  Someone had ordered a bucket of chicken and said he waited over 20 minutes and demanded a refund (the poor employee was so flustered she didn't know what to do or say to the angered customer).  I waited 10 minutes for 2 orders of fries but was a little disappointed (fries were very greasy) This was 1 hour before kick off (couldn't imagine at halftime)

The fly by during the anthem was awesome but couldn't see them due to the over hang (only heard them) 

[Blueforlife]

A few things:

Vaval looked good and more comfortable at boundary then he did at field corner. Makes sense and he should stay there. If he stays healthy and looks about as good, I think it's his indefinitely.

Tony Jones had one of his best games as a Bomber and had all three of the goal line stand tackles.

Cam Allen looks right at home at safety and it's a bit silly that we insist on making a guy like that sit and wait. He's a better safety than Parker and it's not particularly close. Poor roster management there through nine games. 

You can tell why Dillon Mitchell was looked at primarily as a wide out. He's slow for the slot. I'd consider moving Wheatfall to slot and Mitchell to boundary. When does Wilson come back again?

Playcalling continues to an adventure on offense and Hogan doesn't seem to have any natural talent for the flow of the game. I wonder how much frustration there is between Zach and Hogan and how often Zach does his own thing. Think that's a ticking time bomb and a guy in my section brought a "Hey, Ho, Hogan's got to go" sign. Bad things are brewing there.

Overall Zach looked good. Ball was out faster and he looked more mobile and did it with his legs at the end of the game. Unfortunately, he's gotta keep doing that and when he's playing the better defenses it's probably not going to work but that's the game he needs to play.

Disagree on roster management. Allen was better off learning for half the year than coming on right away.  He would have developed and benefited greatly from his time on the PR imo.

You are seeing  result from both his tools as an athlete and the experience gained from half a season waiting imo.

There is no ticking time bomb on Hogan.  The guy with the sign is doing the classic panic knee jerk reaction imo.  He will come around but it will take time.

Moving Wheatie to the slot hard no.  He just starting to cook.  Great way to ruin the recipe.

The only bad thing I have to add is the food concession in the upper level... I usually don't complain but wow it is getting worse for service and food quality.  Someone had ordered a bucket of chicken and said he waited over 20 minutes and demanded a refund (the poor employee was so flustered she didn't know what to do or say to the angered customer).  I waited 10 minutes for 2 orders of fries but was a little disappointed (fries were very greasy) This was 1 hour before kick off (couldn't imagine at halftime)

The fly by during the anthem was awesome but couldn't see them due to the over hang (only heard them) 

Agree buddy ordered a chicken Sammie and it was worse than fast food
Bombers can do better

[The Zipp]

A few things:

Vaval looked good and more comfortable at boundary then he did at field corner. Makes sense and he should stay there. If he stays healthy and looks about as good, I think it's his indefinitely.

Tony Jones had one of his best games as a Bomber and had all three of the goal line stand tackles.

Cam Allen looks right at home at safety and it's a bit silly that we insist on making a guy like that sit and wait. He's a better safety than Parker and it's not particularly close. Poor roster management there through nine games. 

You can tell why Dillon Mitchell was looked at primarily as a wide out. He's slow for the slot. I'd consider moving Wheatfall to slot and Mitchell to boundary. When does Wilson come back again?

Playcalling continues to an adventure on offense and Hogan doesn't seem to have any natural talent for the flow of the game. I wonder how much frustration there is between Zach and Hogan and how often Zach does his own thing. Think that's a ticking time bomb and a guy in my section brought a "Hey, Ho, Hogan's got to go" sign. Bad things are brewing there.

Overall Zach looked good. Ball was out faster and he looked more mobile and did it with his legs at the end of the game. Unfortunately, he's gotta keep doing that and when he's playing the better defenses it's probably not going to work but that's the game he needs to play.

on Mitchell - for all the crying we did as fans he really has been invisible and not really adding tremendous value. 

if you are too slow for slot - prob too slow for wideout. 

i noticed one play where he had his guy beat and may have scored but zach was under pressure and didn't see him. 

he will have a game with some value but he isn't the saviour some of us touted.

[Blueforlife]

on Mitchell - for all the crying we did as fans he really has been invisible and not really adding tremendous value. 

if you are too slow for slot - prob too slow for wideout. 

i noticed one play where he had his guy beat and may have scored but zach was under pressure and didn't see him. 

he will have a game with some value but he isn't the saviour some of us touted.

Too early to know.  Give him a handful of games.  I don't have a lot of faith but never know.

[Waffler]

on Mitchell - for all the crying we did as fans he really has been invisible and not really adding tremendous value. 

Yes, I am wondering now if Sterns and Myron Mitchel looked so good because we just had brought in a poor crop. Demski was himself but Schoen didn't practice. So who did we have to compare to?

[TBURGESS]

Honestly, that game should have gone to OT. 

Ottawa got the ball with 37 seconds left. We had 1 timeout. Runs take 5 seconds or more, so run once, and we're at 32 seconds. Bombers take time out. Run again and let the 20-second clock run to zero. Ottawa takes their time out. -25 seconds = 7 seconds left. Punt takes 3 seconds from snap to reception, and we have 4 seconds left on the clock. We get a single play at the most. 

As our D was gassed, so I doubt we win the OT. 

[Blueforlife]

Honestly, that game should have gone to OT.

Ottawa got the ball with 37 seconds left. We had 1 timeout. Runs take 5 seconds or more, so run once, and we're at 32 seconds. Bombers take time out. Run again and let the 20-second clock run to zero. Ottawa takes their time out. -25 seconds = 7 seconds left. Punt takes 3 seconds from snap to reception, and we have 4 seconds left on the clock. We get a single play at the most.

As our D was gassed, so I doubt we win the OT.

We would have won in OT.
WPG>OTT
Zach>>>Crum

Yes, I am wondering now if Sterns and Myron Mitchel looked so good because we just had brought in a poor crop. Demski was himself but Schoen didn't practice. So who did we have to compare to?

Sterns is a good receiver

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Disagree on roster management. Allen was better off learning for half the year than coming on right away.  He would have developed and benefited greatly from his time on the PR imo.

You are seeing  result from both his tools as an athlete and the experience gained from half a season waiting imo.

There is no ticking time bomb on Hogan.  The guy with the sign is doing the classic panic knee jerk reaction imo.  He will come around but it will take time.

Moving Wheatie to the slot hard no.  He just starting to cook.  Great way to ruin the recipe.Agree buddy ordered a chicken Sammie and it was worse than fast food
Bombers can do better

Just obnoxious obliviousness.

The secondary was a mess of self inflected wounds since day one this year.

We started Parker at safety, a spot he proved not to be suited for at all, even though we know him to be a pretty good corner.

In that corner spot we put Marquise Bridges who you were defending until the moment we released him due to being so far from acceptability.

We had Vaval pegged as a field corner but the early indications are he's better on the boundary.

We decided, in what could be a key game come playoff time to start Kelly at safety who was so spectacularly bad be only got one game and is now buried on the depth chart. To make matters worse that game could have probably been won if our safety stopped just one of the early explosion plays Kelly gave up.

We kept Cam Allen on the bench throughout all of this despite the fact he had a great training camp and has the safety body type that almost all football teams use and when he did come in, finally, he looked great. He would have looked great there from week one or at least as good as the undersized, miscast Parker, and certainly 10x better than Kelly.

They blew it big time. They're on the right track now. But it's half way through the season. Even good coaching staffs make mistakes. O'Shea and JY are human and make mistakes too. Obviously.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes, I am wondering now if Sterns and Myron Mitchel looked so good because we just had brought in a poor crop. Demski was himself but Schoen didn't practice. So who did we have to compare to?

Myron Mitchell did everything he could to win the receiving job in TC and they gave it to Dillon. Wheatfall is not built to take a beating, another game like that and he might not be available for the next one.

[Pete]

Just obnoxious obliviousness.

The secondary was a mess of self inflected wounds since day one this year.

We started Parker at safety, a spot he proved not to be suited for at all, even though we know him to be a pretty good corner.

In that corner spot we put Marquise Bridges who you were defending until the moment we released him due to being so far from acceptability.

We had Vaval pegged as a field corner but the early indications are he's better on the boundary.

We decided, in what could be a key game come playoff time to start Kelly at safety who was so spectacularly bad be only got one game and is now buried on the depth chart. To make matters worse that game could have probably been won if our safety stopped just one of the early explosion plays Kelly gave up.

We kept Cam Allen on the bench throughout all of this despite the fact he had a great training camp and has the safety body type that almost all football teams use and when he did come in, finally, he looked great. He would have looked great there from week one or at least as good as the undersized, mistyped Parker, and certainly 10x better than Kelly.

They blew it big time. They're on the right track now. But it's half way through the season. Even good coaching staffs make mistakes. O'Shea and JY are great choices but they make mistakes too. Obviously.

Yeah too bad O'Shea doesnt listen to us we could have saved him some heartache!
Lets see we had booted Bridges 3 games ago, wanted Allen to start 2 games ago, wanted Mitchell in (ok that hasnt worked out great so far)
Now if he can insert Woods for Ayers/Jones most of his problems would be less!

[Blueforlife]

Just obnoxious obliviousness.

The secondary was a mess of self inflected wounds since day one this year.

We started Parker at safety, a spot he proved not to be suited for at all, even though we know him to be a pretty good corner.

In that corner spot we put Marquise Bridges who you were defending until the moment we released him due to being so far from acceptability.

We had Vaval pegged as a field corner but the early indications are he's better on the boundary.

We decided, in what could be a key game come playoff time to start Kelly at safety who was so spectacularly bad be only got one game and is now buried on the depth chart. To make matters worse that game could have probably been won if our safety stopped just one of the early explosion plays Kelly gave up.

We kept Cam Allen on the bench throughout all of this despite the fact he had a great training camp and has the safety body type that almost all football teams use and when he did come in, finally, he looked great. He would have looked great there from week one or at least as good as the undersized, miscast Parker, and certainly 10x better than Kelly.

They blew it big time. They're on the right track now. But it's half way through the season. Even good coaching staffs make mistakes. O'Shea and JY are human and make mistakes too. Obviously.

I don't agree with your take we mismanaged the roster regarding Allen. I like many thought he showed a spark.  Some wanted him on right away.  I was happy to wait.  Don't make the debate into something it's not.  No need to get nasty.  You sure don't react well one someone challenges your view.  No right or wrong answers here, just two people's opposing views.

Kelly was forced into action due to injury.  To suggest one player is 10x another not a reasonable analysis.  Parker did ok.  Allen will be good but will take time.  We will never know what Allen at safety would have done for our record and there is no guarantee that he would have looked great from game 1.  I think he would be not as good as Parker was but a little better than Kelly.  At this point he looks ready.  Allen benefited from us taking it slow with him.  I believe we played this ok.  Tried Parker and got hurt.  Kelly got roasted and now we got Allen.  If Parker comes back soon, we will have a lot of flexibility and Kelly can continue to develop or just he a good depth guy. 
Bridges didn't work out, that happens.  Club was high on him.  He was our best option at corner at the time due to experience, who feel out of favour and Vaval stepped up.  I wasn't sure about him but was willing to be patient as I seen promise there.  The last few games he played I was concerned about his ability to cover the deep ball but we had few other options at the time on the AR to replace him.

I don't believe that Parker is or was the best option at corner.  I will be happy when he returns and will be interesting to see how we use him.

Yeah too bad O'Shea doesnt listen to us we could have saved him some heartache!
Lets see we had booted Bridges 3 games ago, wanted Allen to start 2 games ago, wanted Mitchell in (ok that hasnt worked out great so far)
Now if he can insert Woods for Ayers/Jones most of his problems would be less!

Hard to say how much a difference Allen would have made.  Woods might help but Ayers and Jones are good too.

[Waffler]

Sterns is a good receiver

He is currently 30th in the league with 340 yards and projects to a 680 yard season. He's 111 yards better than Clercius.  We just need more than that. Demski is our only healthy receiver that other teams would grab in an instant.

[Blueforlife]

He is currently 30th in the league with 340 yards and projects to a 680 yard season. He's 111 yards better than Clercius.  We just need more than that. Demski is our only healthy receiver that other teams would grab in an instant.

My opinion on Sterns remains, guy is starting to come on.  Had a good game.  Getting Tds.  I believe our receivers will come on and will do it by committee.  Yes we need more production.  Yesterday 1st step in right direction.

Sterns pace would be decent after a few 4 or 500 yard years in Sask.  Trending right.