Official Game Day Thread - Toronto at Winnipeg, August 1, 2025

[theaardvark]

The problem with the Streveler play was not as much the call as it was the QB decision to throw the ball. 

Zach would have looked at other reads.  In that position, you can find an open receiver, eat the ball, or toss it out of bounds.  Trying to force it in after staring it down is a rookie mistake a seasoned veteran should never make.

But it is Streveler's modus operandi. He is overconfident in his ability in so many ways that things like this happens.

Don't get me wrong, you NEED confidence to be a QB, and you have to have confidence in your ability to get the ball into a receivers hands.  But you need the skill to quickly read a coverage and KNOW your chances of success are small, and the cost of failure is huge.

If the crowd and the D don't kill the series after the pick, we could lose that game.

[peg_city]

Something I've taken from the past few games is Nick Arbuckle is a decent QB. He's not a starter, but he's one of the best back-ups in the league. A lot of throws were on the money. It's easy to blame the secondary for getting burned, but a lot of those long throws were perfect. He might be turning into a late bloomer.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

The problem with the Streveler play was not as much the call as it was the QB decision to throw the ball. 

Zach would have looked at other reads.  In that position, you can find an open receiver, eat the ball, or toss it out of bounds.  Trying to force it in after staring it down is a rookie mistake a seasoned veteran should never make.

But it is Streveler's modus operandi. He is overconfident in his ability in so many ways that things like this happens.

Don't get me wrong, you NEED confidence to be a QB, and you have to have confidence in your ability to get the ball into a receivers hands.  But you need the skill to quickly read a coverage and KNOW your chances of success are small, and the cost of failure is huge.

If the crowd and the D don't kill the series after the pick, we could lose that game.

Is it over confidence or pressure to succeed?  Strev. seems to put enormous pressure on himself to be able to do anything and is disappointed when he falls short. The last 2 post-game press conferences he looked pretty miserable.

[RebusRankin]

Dinwiddie does an excellent job of prepping and getting the most out of his QBs.

[theaardvark]

Is it over confidence or pressure to succeed?  Strev. seems to put enormous pressure on himself to be able to do anything and is disappointed when he falls short. The last 2 press conferences he looked pretty miserable.

Are they much different?  Either one is bad. If you feel so much pressure that you make bad decisions, that might actually be worse that overconfidence in ability.

I feel for the guy, he's been put in a position he's wanted for years, and the team has managed W's, but not because of him, rather in spite of his play.  I'd be miserable too.

[dd]

I think he's miserable because he isn't happy with his performance. He knows he has to do better, but he keeps making rookie like mistakes that knock him back. I just don't think he has the mental capacity to play the position, and sadly, he's coming to realize that too.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I think he's miserable because he isn't happy with his performance. He knows he has to do better, but he keeps making rookie like mistakes that knock him back. I just don't think he has the mental capacity to play the position, and sadly, he's coming to realize that too.

I think when he began his pro football career in 2018 he was sure someday he'd become a starter, 7 years into his career that does not look to be a realistic possibility. We have no indication whether the Mafia sees him as the future starter or just another Prukop, there doesn't seem to be a gameplan in play.

[blue_gold_84]

I think when he began his pro football career in 2018 he was sure someday he'd become a starter, 7 years into his career that does not look to be a realistic possibility. We have no indication whether the Mafia sees him as the future starter or just another Prukop, there doesn't seem to be a gameplan in play.

He's already more than demonstrated he's better than a clipboard holder like Prukop.

Is it just me or does it look like Streveler's not being used to his strengths? We saw him look pretty capable and comfortable in week 2, but nothing sustained since. Makes me wonder about the system in place.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

He's already more than demonstrated he's better than a clipboard holder like Prukop.

Is it just me or does it look like Streveler's not being used to his strengths? We saw him look pretty capable and comfortable in week 2, but nothing sustained since. Makes me wonder about the system in place.

Strev seems to be topping out as a poorer version of Dustin Crum. He's had more opportunity than most backup QB's ever get, and yet has impressed very few with his ability to score points. My reference to Prukop is they're likely to encounter the same fate, life long backup.

[Jesse]

He's already more than demonstrated he's better than a clipboard holder like Prukop.

Is it just me or does it look like Streveler's not being used to his strengths? We saw him look pretty capable and comfortable in week 2, but nothing sustained since. Makes me wonder about the system in place.

I think in the first game, BC was respecting his ability to run and attempting to shut that down first. But he really doesn't have that going for him anymore and we've already seen the adjustment.

[J5V]

I think in the first game, BC was respecting his ability to run and attempting to shut that down first. But he really doesn't have that going for him anymore and we've already seen the adjustment.

He isn't shy about initiating contact, still packs a wallop and hits like a freight train out there. Lots of players are slow to get up after contact with Streveler. The man is a load.

[Pete]

The problem with the Streveler play was not as much the call as it was the QB decision to throw the ball. 

Zach would have looked at other reads.  In that position, you can find an open receiver, eat the ball, or toss it out of bounds.  Trying to force it in after staring it down is a rookie mistake a seasoned veteran should never make.

But it is Streveler's modus operandi. He is overconfident in his ability in so many ways that things like this happens.

Don't get me wrong, you NEED confidence to be a QB, and you have to have confidence in your ability to get the ball into a receivers hands.  But you need the skill to quickly read a coverage and KNOW your chances of success are small, and the cost of failure is huge.

If the crowd and the D don't kill the series after the pick, we could lose that game.

Id agree with you except that it happened on first down. We could have run/short pass the ball and run down more clock then made that call if we needed it.

[TecnoGenius]

Something I've taken from the past few games is Nick Arbuckle is a decent QB. He's not a starter, but he's one of the best back-ups in the league. A lot of throws were on the money. It's easy to blame the secondary for getting burned, but a lot of those long throws were perfect. He might be turning into a late bloomer.

He's exactly what he is when he was first doing excellent in CGY, filling in for BLM IRs.  If you put him on a top-3 (or top-1!) team and he can run the O and win games.  CGY at the time was the league-best team.

TOR is arguably still the league-best team and the team to beat in the GC.  Sure, their D is stinky right now, but that O is still very potent.  Surely by season end TOR will be a top-3 team.

I think Arbuckle is more like a late-career Kevin Glenn.  Good on a good team.  Iffy on a bad one.

I still don't think anyone gives him a starting job.