Jamal Woods

Started by Blue In BC, July 21, 2025, 05:07:16 PM

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BomberFan73

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 25, 2025, 07:28:17 AMSchoen being able to play after another 6GIR stint would help.  As would Pokey returning in late Sept.  We'd be stout then, if Schoen can stay healthy.

The hopium is Schoen is just a minor strain, not another tear...

If we're missing both Schoen & Pokey come trade deadline, and OTT is still crap, then trade away whatever you have to to get Lewis from OTT for the playoff run.  Home GC year, gotta do it.


While I'd have to agree our current WR group is below average, getting Schoen back healthy and Wilson automatically propels it to near top:
Wilson/Schoen/Demski/Wheaty/Clercius      That's a helluva group.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 25, 2025, 01:40:30 PMWhile I'd have to agree our current WR group is below average, getting Schoen back healthy and Wilson automatically propels it to near top:
Wilson/Schoen/Demski/Wheaty/Clercius      That's a helluva group.

Two pretty big ifs in there, IMO.

That's a great hypothetical group, though.
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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 25, 2025, 01:39:33 PMProbably not but we seem bent on not putting Mitchell in. I'd argue we do have a receiver issue with Schoen out.

I guess we'll see. I'm not saying we are stacked with receiving talent but I don't think the group is any worse than 2021. Dalton averaged 49 receiving yards a game this year. The name was scarier than the output. 

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 25, 2025, 01:50:26 PMI guess we'll see. I'm not saying we are stacked with receiving talent but I don't think the group is any worse than 2021. Dalton averaged 49 receiving yards a game this year. The name was scarier than the output. 

Maybe but our OL is not as good and our QB is another year older. This group of receivers are not as good at blocking as in previous years. It's the sum of parts across the roster on offence.
One game at a time.

The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 25, 2025, 02:07:39 PMMaybe but our OL is not as good and our QB is another year older. This group of receivers are not as good at blocking as in previous years. It's the sum of parts across the roster on offence.

and defence - last gasp effort to get to the elusive and coveted home grey cup game. 

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: The Zipp on July 25, 2025, 02:44:06 PMand defence - last gasp effort to get to the elusive and coveted home grey cup game. 

For sure. And the way we do things you're more obligated to stick with guys right to the end. We ask that players (even former starters from elsewhere) sit, watch and listen. Part of it is ego check. Part of it is process. Part of it is learning the Bombers way. But the carrot there is once you're in, you're in. And while it may sometimes cause us to hold on to a guy a bit too long, the benefits of doing it that way are far greater overall. After all, you won't keep a locker room if you make guys grind through a process, do the ego check and all of that and then bail on at the first sign of trouble. Pros and cons but no one can say it hasn't been effective.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 25, 2025, 01:36:00 PMI wouldn't be opposed to that change but I'm not sure O'Shea would make it. Ayers is very good on ST's and O'Shea loves his ST players. Many are questioning why J. Jones hasn't replace him.

It depends on how the ratio works out for a given week. Person could be the one getting bumped at DE for depth at DT if Woods was ready. Timing will come into it as well. Person could have a breakout game over the next couple of weeks or he could be headed back to the PR.

I mentioned earlier that I wasn't sure whether we'd go to a 3 import OL if and when Bryant was healthy. That's another ratio change.

Another route they could take to improving the D-line, drop Kornelson and add global DE Bailey, one for one. Not sure what purpose the 3rd Natl. DT is serving other than providing them with 4 DT's. 

Kornelson, is a good example of having to defer to the coaching staff's judgment, he doesn't get many reps. so it's difficult to judge his play, but in his short time here it appears he's already surpassed Schmeck's previous 2 years of experience.  Always safer to trust the coach's knowledge than claim he's a waste of a roster spot from a fan's distant perspective.

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 25, 2025, 07:23:50 AMI still think SSK is weaker.  What a garbage group.  Only KSB is any good.  I doubt the other guys are there 2 season from now.

SSK is winning on scheme and the fast-ball/accuracy talent of T.Harris alone.

OTT & BC are pretty weak too, but at least they have 1-2 "top-5" type guys each.  Without Schoen we have no one scaring no one.


You're seriously wrong about the Sask. receivers, that is a very good group.  KeeSean Johnson and Meyers are currently in the top 10 in receiving yards, and also 2 reason Sterns got cut. Emilus and KSB are all-star level when healthy and are great at picking up YAC.  Oh yeah, that list failed to mention rookie Joe Robustelli, who could be the next Dalton Schoen.

dd

Meyers is the real deal and has had some good games so far. The Riders are quietly going about their business and sit atop the West. They will be at their villainous best this year trying to foil our Grey Cup appearance. I think the road to the Grey Cup will go through Regina this year.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: dd on July 25, 2025, 06:23:10 PMMeyers is the real deal and has had some good games so far. The Riders are quietly going about their business and sit atop the West. They will be at their villainous best this year trying to foil our Grey Cup appearance. I think the road to the Grey Cup will go through Regina this year.

It's not even August yet. Weren't the Riders atop the west at this time last year?

Plenty of football left to go.
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 25, 2025, 06:30:03 PMIt's not even August yet. Weren't the Riders atop the west at this time last year?

Plenty of football left to go.
For sure, then Harris got hurt. Same could happen this year, especially seeing how everyones #1 Qb seems to be getting hurt except BLM

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Quote from: dd on July 25, 2025, 06:33:15 PMFor sure, then Harris got hurt. Same could happen this year, especially seeing how everyones #1 Qb seems to be getting hurt except BLM

Yep, eventually Harris will get hurt, so don't pre-book a room in Regina....ever.  The Stamps, the Argos, the Als and the Bombers are all capable of soundly beating the Riders IMO.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 25, 2025, 04:17:07 PMYou're seriously wrong about the Sask. receivers, that is a very good group.  KeeSean Johnson and Meyers are currently in the top 10 in receiving yards, and also 2 reason Sterns got cut. Emilus and KSB are all-star level when healthy and are great at picking up YAC.  Oh yeah, that list failed to mention rookie Joe Robustelli, who could be the next Dalton Schoen.

They are all looking good because of very good OL protection for short-game-slinger Harris.  And as TSN always says, they have the most accurate QB.

Emilus has been bleh since coming back, with really only this last game being any good.  Busby is just another NAT.

Robustelli is looking good for a rookie, but again, how much of that is OL & scheme?

Look at it another way, if you put all of those RECs on our team vs TOR last night, I bet we get the same L outcome... KSB couldn't win it all by himself.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 27, 2025, 10:18:22 AMThey are all looking good because of very good OL protection for short-game-slinger Harris.  And as TSN always says, they have the most accurate QB.

Emilus has been bleh since coming back, with really only this last game being any good.  Busby is just another NAT.

Robustelli is looking good for a rookie, but again, how much of that is OL & scheme?

Re-watching the Rider/Lion game, Emilus went 6   for 6   113 yds. 1 TD 41 YAC 18.8 avg. 43 longest.  That is an outstanding game.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 28, 2025, 04:13:07 AMRe-watching the Rider/Lion game, Emilus went 6    for 6    113 yds. 1 TD 41 YAC 18.8 avg. 43 longest.  That is an outstanding game.

My point is, that's the only one he's had like that since returning from injury last season (I think).

Wheatie had an even better game than that a few weeks ago.  Does that mean he's better than Emilus?  Kenny got like 10Y in the entire HAM game and K.Smith got 14/15 138Y 2TD, so he's better than Kenny?

My point is none of those SSK players are killing it week after week.  Sure, the odd one gets a great game once in a blue moon (like Meyer the other week).  But as a whole they don't scare me.
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