Stamps at Blue Bombers pre game thread

Waffler · July 17, 2025, 11:38:40 AM

Pretty deep divide on Case here. Derek Taylor called it a "big drop off" on the radio and he goes to every practice. To me it depends if Case can play full speed and with confidence in a game now, if so he can make a contribution. It's wait and see.

If Schoen remains out, how many games will he get? Would middling results matter? Hard to judge what O'Shea will do. He stuck with Josh Johnson and Ontaria Wilson a long time, rewarded by only one of them.

BomberFan73 · July 17, 2025, 12:58:26 PM

This was the guy who was on the Colts roster, right? Ya, you don't make the NFL if you're a bum WR.

Jesse · July 17, 2025, 01:43:31 PM

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 17, 2025, 12:58:26 PMThis was the guy who was on the Colts roster, right? Ya, you don't make the NFL if you're a bum WR.

Every guy has been through an NFL training camp before coming up here, it doesn't mean anything.

I haven't been blown away with any of receivers yet, but obviously that's on Zach and the OL too.

markf · July 17, 2025, 02:29:35 PM

I'm impressed by the fact that no one has made a pun good or bad, using Case's name.

Well done forum!

His punt returns that I recall. Very Reliable at catching the ball, but not much chance of more than a few yards gained after the catch. I guess that's normal though.

blue_or_die · July 17, 2025, 04:58:57 PM

Quote from: Jesse on July 16, 2025, 10:39:18 PMIt's coming from the fact that Wheatfall made a second year leap so why not Case?

I'm in the minority here but I'm not as shocked by Wheatie's explosion this year as most others. Last year before Wilson exploded, Wheatfall was in early in the season and in my opinion was stand-out from my eyeball test, amongst a group of new receivers where we were struggling. Case was in the mix too and did not impress me at all despite the hype. You could argue he wasn't given the same opportunity as Wheatie last year, but then I would just say that he was lower on the list than a large group of rooks and that speaks volumes.

Having said all that, yeah, it's totally possible that he's actually very good and has made meaningful improvement.

Quote from: Pigskin on July 17, 2025, 05:03:05 AMI think it comes from the people that go to practice and watch these players develop. You see a guy like Case putting in the work, and making some great catches.

Fair enough - I don't go to practices. Hoping a good practice guy makes hay when the lights are on.

Jesse · July 17, 2025, 05:27:35 PM

Quote from: blue_or_die on July 17, 2025, 04:58:57 PMI'm in the minority here but I'm not as shocked by Wheatie's explosion this year as most others. Last year before Wilson exploded, Wheatfall was in early in the season and in my opinion was stand-out from my eyeball test, amongst a group of new receivers where we were struggling. Case was in the mix too and did not impress me at all despite the hype. You could argue he wasn't given the same opportunity as Wheatie last year, but then I would just say that he was lower on the list than a large group of rooks and that speaks volumes.

Having said all that, yeah, it's totally possible that he's actually very good and has made meaningful improvement.

Fair enough - I don't go to practices. Hoping a good practice guy makes hay when the lights are on.

Also shocked at the Wheaton explosion. You hope for the best with 2nd year guys but I wasn't impressed last year.

It's also massively disappointing that Mitchell didn't earn the start even in Dalton's absence. Big swing and a miss of a FA.

Waffler · July 17, 2025, 05:32:31 PM

Ontaria Wilson is listed listed as a long shot by the Athletic today. The Jets camp starts Tuesday.

WR Dymere Miller, WR Ontaria Wilson: Miller is a speedy UDFA from Rutgers, and Wilson (nicknamed "Pokey") has some CFL experience. Both made some plays in the spring.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6493225/2025/07/17/new-york-jets-roster-breakdown-training-camp/

Jesse · July 17, 2025, 05:37:01 PM

Quote from: Waffler on July 17, 2025, 05:32:31 PMOntaria Wilson is listed listed as a long shot by the Athletic today. The Jets camp starts Tuesday.

WR Dymere Miller, WR Ontaria Wilson: Miller is a speedy UDFA from Rutgers, and Wilson (nicknamed "Pokey") has some CFL experience. Both made some plays in the spring.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6493225/2025/07/17/new-york-jets-roster-breakdown-training-camp/

Really need him, but if he holds out through some preseason games, it's still months away. And that's if he doesn't take the year off looking for additional opportunities.

Throw Long Bannatyne · July 17, 2025, 06:45:24 PM

Quote from: Jesse on July 17, 2025, 05:27:35 PMAlso shocked at the Wheaton explosion. You hope for the best with 2nd year guys but I wasn't impressed last year.

It's also massively disappointing that Mitchell didn't earn the start even in Dalton's absence. Big swing and a miss of a FA.

If Schoen is out for awhile, Case doesn't impress and Mitchell can't earn a start, dump him and bring back Reggie White. Remembering that they attempted to keep him and he left on his own accord, the issue being the size of his paycheque.

Throw Long Bannatyne · July 17, 2025, 07:50:00 PM

Zach speaks highly of Case, Schoen and Stearns.

As does O'Shea.

dd · July 17, 2025, 10:02:15 PM

Man Schoen being out sucks big, big time!! I think the man is done/will never fully recover to his previous high impact standard. We need a Plan B right now, bringing back White makes total sense.

GOLDMEMBER · July 17, 2025, 10:45:22 PM

I'd like to make the case....

TecnoGenius · July 17, 2025, 11:00:01 PM

Quote from: Waffler on July 17, 2025, 11:38:40 AMIf Schoen remains out, how many games will he get?

Well, I checked and they put Schoen on the 6G, not the 1G. So there's a hint as to the answer. It looks like another knee issue (same knee?). He could even be done for the season, meaning he's a complete bust and we have no top-5 REC, probably not top-10 REC, and our season is done.

We bet it all on Schoen, and it turns out Kenny was the (healthy) keeper. It was a fair gamble, but we lost.

Waffler · July 17, 2025, 11:25:25 PM

I was sure it was a knee when he landed on it and it went sideways, his shin folded underneath.

3 looks at it:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ce4Xlr_7FGY

I assume it is the same knee, a healthy knee would not need 6 weeks to recover from that. What I wonder is why he had no brace on? Strev wears one as have other Bombers in the past.

TecnoGenius · July 17, 2025, 11:30:05 PM

Quote from: Waffler on July 17, 2025, 11:25:25 PMI assume it is the same knee, a healthy knee would not need 6 weeks to recover from that. What I wonder is why he had no brace on? Strev wears one as have other Bombers in the past.

Thanks, that's handy. Ya, basically a non-contact. Normal healthy knees don't buckle when you jump 1 foot off the ground.

So right knee. Can anyone confirm that's the same knee from last year?

RECs can't really do the knee brace thing, especially a shifty/mobile one like Schoen. Strev can get away with it as he's more a pick-a-direction-and-plow runner.

Might be the end for Schoen. What a disaster.