Rourke released, Signed by Atlanta...and released again AND SIGNS WITH BC

TecnoGenius · August 26, 2024, 01:28:25 AM

Quote from: The Zipp on August 25, 2024, 04:57:48 PMRemember when Farhan said Rourke was a top 20 QB in the world?? He isn't even the best QB in the CFL.

I don't think it's gonna happen but coach suggested going back to VAJ.

Clearly Rourke needs time to get back to 2022 levels. He pretty much can't do that unless he's starting games. If they make him #2 then he won't be any good until next year. Now, you could make a great cup run with VAJ -- but will VAJ win that big game or choke?

Rourke will lose you some games now, but hopefully be winning come post-season.

It's a tough call! And they are in a huge bind because they've already signed & paid Rourke for multi-years.

J5V · August 26, 2024, 01:36:03 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 26, 2024, 01:28:25 AMClearly Rourke needs time to get back to 2022 levels. He pretty much can't do that unless he's starting games. If they make him #2 then he won't be any good until next year. Now, you could make a great cup run with VAJ -- but will VAJ win that big game or choke?

Rourke will lose you some games now, but hopefully be winning come post-season.

It's a tough call! And they are in a huge bind because they've already signed & paid Rourke for multi-years.

and they are hosting the Grey Cup this year. Next year is no good.

TecnoGenius · August 26, 2024, 01:52:28 AM

Quote from: J5V on August 26, 2024, 01:36:03 AMand they are hosting the Grey Cup this year. Next year is no good.

Good point. But my point is more that Rourke could probably be up to speed and a world-beater by post-season if they give him all these games to get practice. But then they probably won't win the W in the reg season...

I do think Rourke gives them better odds than VAJ in the post-season and the big game.

But they do have to consider making the playoffs with such a tight West... and I know they really don't want to play any SF/DF in the cold.

They have tough decisions to make!

J5V · August 26, 2024, 02:17:09 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 26, 2024, 01:52:28 AMGood point. But my point is more that Rourke could probably be up to speed and a world-beater by post-season if they give him all these games to get practice. But then they probably won't win the W in the reg season...

I do think Rourke gives them better odds than VAJ in the post-season and the big game.

But they do have to consider making the playoffs with such a tight West... and I know they really don't want to play any SF/DF in the cold.

They have tough decisions to make!

Is Adams healthy enough to play and even if he is how long until he's hurt again? If I'm Rick Campbell I'm going with Rourke all the way. I'm not sure BC's problems are Rourke related anyway. Their defense sucks and they had a soft schedule to start the season. Like Calgary, I think they fade away.

Throw Long Bannatyne · August 26, 2024, 02:30:14 AM

Quote from: J5V on August 26, 2024, 02:17:09 AMIs Adams healthy enough to play and even if he is how long until he's hurt again? If I'm Rick Campbell I'm going with Rourke all the way. I'm not sure BC's problems are Rourke related anyway. Their defense sucks and they had a soft schedule to start the season. Like Calgary, I think they fade away.

Agree, it was not as if Rourke was the final piece they needed, the Lions are not on track to win the GC this season even if it's at home. They might squeak out an appearance if they get lucky but they'll most likely fall short.

GOLDMEMBER · August 26, 2024, 02:45:24 AM

Rourke has not been the same since his injury. Could still be re-acclimated jitters but boy he looks so very uncomfortable. This knowing he has a good team around him to boot.

I start VAJ if healthy next week. If he stinks to there could a real problem in BC.

TecnoGenius · August 26, 2024, 02:51:48 AM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 26, 2024, 02:30:14 AMAgree, it was not as if Rourke was the final piece they needed, the Lions are not on track to win the GC this season even if it's at home. They might squeak out an appearance if they get lucky but they'll most likely fall short.

You sure that's not just recency bias speaking? Think back to how they looked in their first 5 wins. They looked like nothing could stop them. The first 6 weeks of CFL it was looking like a BC/MTL GC.

BC probably wasn't as good as their start. But they certainly aren't as bad as their last 5 games. I consider them the main contenders for us to face in the WDF, and it will be hard to beat them for the 3rd year in a row. That's the same situation as we overcame when we finally beat CGY in '19 WDF...

TecnoGenius · August 26, 2024, 02:58:50 AM

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 26, 2024, 02:45:24 AMRourke has not been the same since his injury. Could still be re-acclimated jitters but boy he looks so very uncomfortable. This knowing he has a good team around him to boot.

I start VAJ if healthy next week. If he stinks to there could a real problem in BC.

If you start VAJ then it'll be VAJ all the way into the post-season. They can't keep see-sawing. It's a big commitment after blowing the wad this year and '25/'26 on Rourke. Then you have a huge problem if VAJ gets you to the GC!!

There is a massive political/future element to these choices! You can't just think about the '25 GC! If you do, you have a major dilemma in the off-season... If you roll with Rourke now, you have no dilemma; you just trade VAJ away after the season.

Pete · August 26, 2024, 03:04:04 AM

one of the factors that may be in play is that the defenses are a lot more aggressive than a few years ago when he was putting up the big numbers. No quarterback is dominating. Adams was the best candidate over the first 6 games but then he hit a wall as defences adjusted.

TecnoGenius · August 26, 2024, 03:11:38 AM

Quote from: Pete on August 26, 2024, 03:04:04 AMNo quarterback is dominating. Adams was the best candidate over the first 6 games but then he hit a wall as defences adjusted.

I'd pin a lot of it on their Rs. They are supposed to be the best: the 2 H's and McInnis. Hollins must be hurt as he hasn't done crap in 5+ weeks. Hatcher has mega-rust or still injured and has been invisible for 2 games. McInnis has been figured out, and he isn't Eric Rogers after all.

Since BC started sucking the Rs have been dropping balls and losing 50/50s for both QBs.

Then again... our Rs have been pretty ineffective too! I think it's the year of the DB and RB.

Throw Long Bannatyne · August 26, 2024, 04:20:45 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 26, 2024, 02:51:48 AMYou sure that's not just recency bias speaking? Think back to how they looked in their first 5 wins. They looked like nothing could stop them. The first 6 weeks of CFL it was looking like a BC/MTL GC.

BC probably wasn't as good as their start. But they certainly aren't as bad as their last 5 games. I consider them the main contenders for us to face in the WDF, and it will be hard to beat them for the 3rd year in a row. That's the same situation as we overcame when we finally beat CGY in '19 WDF...

I don't disagree, the Lions might even win the West but I don't see them beating the Als or the Argos in a GC matchup this year. Nor do I see the Bombers being in a strong enough position to do so either, personnel changes and injuries have done too much damage. I'd be pretty surprised if the GC didn't end up in the East for the 3rd straight year.