Zach's Back

[Tecno]

Yes, when dru was in for us we didn't let him play the whole field. Thus the flat wasn't as open.

Not saying dru can't... But whether he can or not is irrelevant if we won't let him chuck it.

How many weeks of dru starting would mafia require before giving him the whole field? So yes, what I posted about Zach is completely true.

[TBURGESS]

Dru threw 4 picks on 8 tries 20+, which is 1 more than he completed. It's not that we didn't give him a chance. It's that he didn't well with the chances he had. 

[Jesse]

Yeah, it was really only in the BC game we stopped allowing him to make deeper attempts. That whole game was played like they didn't think they needed to try.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

The question we should be asking is has Zach Collaros done enough to warrant a swan song year even though it's going to end in disaster? Ditto for Bryant who's play is at least only largely getting Collaros hit more which seems like a closed feedback loop of decision making that prioritizes honoring the player instead of winning.

I suppose the question is: are you entertained? O'Shea likely doesn't care either way.

[theaardvark]

We can be assured that Collaros is not the starter next year, and Bryant not the LT.

Broxton is the LT, for sure.

Is it Dru at QB?  Does Tyler get a shot?  Can we give Perkins some meaningful reps yet?

Or do we see Diego Pavia give the CFL a shot?

Thank you Zach for the GC's, but you know, its time.

[RebusRankin]

Zach has shown these struggles since the second half of 2023, the Edmonton game in late August that year where he went out due to injury. Its been 3 years of these type of performances and fans debating about him. This needs to be his last year.

[Tecno]

We can be assured that Collaros is not the starter next year, and Bryant not the LT.

Broxton is the LT, for sure.

I would not bet money on Zach not starting next season.  He's still better than Dru, though maybe not by much.  And if we start Dru all '27 we aren't going to be a great team.  If we cut Zach and he still wants to play, another team will pick him up as backup, or he'll start in a dumpster-fire team like HAM or OTT.

Yes, there is no way Stan plays another year -- his fast twitch & reflexes are shot.  It's not him, it's just age.  We've found the upper limit for even the CFL all-time best OL, and that limit is his current age minus 1.

Yes, Broxton goes back to LT -- and all that RT run block development gets flushed into the toilet and we're back to square one with a new guy.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I would not bet money on Zach not starting next season.  He's still better than Dru, though maybe not by much.  And if we start Dru all '27 we aren't going to be a great team.  If we cut Zach and he still wants to play, another team will pick him up as backup, or he'll start in a dumpster-fire team like HAM or OTT.

Yes, there is no way Stan plays another year -- his fast twitch & reflexes are shot.  It's not him, it's just age.  We've found the upper limit for even the CFL all-time best OL, and that limit is his current age minus 1.

Yes, Broxton goes back to LT -- and all that RT run block development gets flushed into the toilet and we're back to square one with a new guy.

It would seem really odd to bring Zach back for another season if he continues to underperform this year.  Like what is the point of continuing on in a losing direction?  This year was supposed to be his chance at redemption, given a fair opportunity to show he can still compete with the best QB's in the league, yet he continues to fall short.  For better or worse I think the ball will be handed off to Brown next season whether he's better or not, it's time to ditch Zach's huge contract and invest it elsewhere.

[blue_gold_84]

I would not bet money on Zach not starting next season.  He's still better than Dru, though maybe not by much.  And if we start Dru all '27 we aren't going to be a great team.  If we cut Zach and he still wants to play, another team will pick him up as backup, or he'll start in a dumpster-fire team like HAM or OTT.

This team isn't great with either QB behind centre. Relying on Collaros beyond this season seems pretty foolish, though.

[theaardvark]

This team isn't great with either QB behind centre. Relying on Collaros beyond this season seems pretty foolish, though.

Not sure relying on Collaros THIS season isn't foolish.  The difference between losing with Collaros and losing with Dru/Bryce is that in the second instance, we get live fire development.

I hope that we start seeing more platooning of QB's the rest of the year.  Save some mileage on Zach for the playoffs.  Put Dru or Bryce in for a series once a half, or even once a quarter.  Make the D make adjustments, and if one shows a hot hand, they get the second half.  Or until they stall.

It's so weird that we make adjustments at RB or Rec based on the hot hand, but never at QB.  Its not like we have a QB room with 1, 2, 3 definitively placed.  Sure, when he's on, Zach is the #1, but most of the time its a 1A/1B with Dru, and I'm not sure Bryce isn't 1C.  Not because Dru or Bryce at that great, but because 2026 Zach really isn't.

[Blue In BC]

Not sure relying on Collaros THIS season isn't foolish.  The difference between losing with Collaros and losing with Dru/Bryce is that in the second instance, we get live fire development.

I hope that we start seeing more platooning of QB's the rest of the year.  Save some mileage on Zach for the playoffs.  Put Dru or Bryce in for a series once a half, or even once a quarter.  Make the D make adjustments, and if one shows a hot hand, they get the second half.  Or until they stall.

It's so weird that we make adjustments at RB or Rec based on the hot hand, but never at QB.  Its not like we have a QB room with 1, 2, 3 definitively placed.  Sure, when he's on, Zach is the #1, but most of the time its a 1A/1B with Dru, and I'm not sure Bryce isn't 1C.  Not because Dru or Bryce at that great, but because 2026 Zach really isn't.

I doubt we see any platooning of QB's this year. If we lose another couple of games we may see a line drawn in the sand choosing the " next " starter. Spin the wheel and choose one.

Our QB play has not been great but it's not the only problem as we all know. OC, DC and overall talent are problems.

[Blueforlife]

I doubt we see any platooning of QB's this year. If we lose another couple of games we may see a line drawn in the sand choosing the " next " starter. Spin the wheel and choose one.

Our QB play has not been great but it's not the only problem as we all know. OC, DC and overall talent are problems.

Yeah we have what we will play.  There won't be wheel spinning though, we will play them in order but at the same time I would give all three a taste if we tank.

[Jesse]

Not sure relying on Collaros THIS season isn't foolish.  The difference between losing with Collaros and losing with Dru/Bryce is that in the second instance, we get live fire development.

I hope that we start seeing more platooning of QB's the rest of the year.  Save some mileage on Zach for the playoffs.  Put Dru or Bryce in for a series once a half, or even once a quarter.  Make the D make adjustments, and if one shows a hot hand, they get the second half.  Or until they stall.

It's so weird that we make adjustments at RB or Rec based on the hot hand, but never at QB.  Its not like we have a QB room with 1, 2, 3 definitively placed.  Sure, when he's on, Zach is the #1, but most of the time its a 1A/1B with Dru, and I'm not sure Bryce isn't 1C.  Not because Dru or Bryce at that great, but because 2026 Zach really isn't.

When have you ever seen adjustments at RB or WR?

[theaardvark]

When have you ever seen adjustments at RB or WR?

Not adjustments at who plays, but who gets the touches.  And every game we see adjustments as to who gets the most targets, and how many touches Brady gets, quarter by quarter.