GDT Ham at Tor, Sat Oct 4, 2:00PM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: dd on October 04, 2025, 10:21:53 PMAnd I just don't get the thinking there. Your team is up , no chance Toronto is coming back, so why not give Powell some snaps to get him some playing experience, as well, BLM could get hurt in a nothing game and then what, Powell has to come in. I just don't know why you minimize the chance of injury to your #1 Qb, while also getting your #2 Qb some reps.

Could be they're hiding Powell, hoping no team comes calling in FA.  Who knows, they may be paying him decent money to stand on the sidelines looking pretty, I'm sure they don't want to lose him but BLM might play till 40, the way he's going why not.

Blue In BC

Arbuckle may have a separated throwing shoulder from the looks of it on the weekend. Even a lower grade will put him out for the rest of the season now that the Argos are out of the play offs.

That's an unfortunate turn of events for him.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 05, 2025, 02:59:47 PMArbuckle may have a separated throwing shoulder from the looks of it on the weekend. Even a lower grade will put him out for the rest of the season now that the Argos are out of the play offs.

That's an unfortunate turn of events for him.

The Argos ran out of QB's, makes me wonder why they dumped Cameron Dukes so early. That said Jarret Doege seems like a smart QB that will benefit from these late season starts and working with Dinwiddie. I'm jealous.

Tecno

Quote from: Stats Junkie on October 04, 2025, 07:59:21 PMTSN with Doug Flutie in the booth talking about anything but the game. Flutie stops midsentence to call the Greg Bell TD run then offers his analysis about the blocking on the play.

Well, Flutie did give a shout out to Osh -- wasn't sure if he was still doing WPG or not.

I was young when Flutie played in the CFL and all I really remember is he beat us every.single.time, and I hate him for it!  He was so good.  Best thing that ever happened to the CFL was him going south, so no CFL team got a "secret weapon".
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: dd on October 04, 2025, 10:21:53 PMAnd I just don't get the thinking there. Your team is up , no chance Toronto is coming back, so why not give Powell

For a decent chunk of time TOR came within 10.  And Doege hadn't thrown the picks yet, and was moving the ball.  You don't pull your #1 QB in the CFL until you're up 2 TD + 1 FG.  Maybe not even then.  So in this game, that means 2-3 series, max.

I like the theory of hiding Powell.  He lights it up then his FA retention gets expensive.  I think he's the next big thing.  HAM 100% needs a viable backup to 100 year old BLM, if not this season, then next.  BLM has proven he can lose his mojo for 2-3 years at a time at the drop of a hat.  (Whereas Zach has been 100% consistent these 5+ seasons.)
Never go full Johnston!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on October 06, 2025, 03:43:44 AMFor a decent chunk of time TOR came within 10.  And Doege hadn't thrown the picks yet, and was moving the ball.  You don't pull your #1 QB in the CFL until you're up 2 TD + 1 FG.  Maybe not even then.  So in this game, that means 2-3 series, max.

I like the theory of hiding Powell.  He lights it up then his FA retention gets expensive.  I think he's the next big thing.  HAM 100% needs a viable backup to 100 year old BLM, if not this season, then next.  BLM has proven he can lose his mojo for 2-3 years at a time at the drop of a hat.  (Whereas Zach has been 100% consistent these 5+ seasons.)


I hate this thinking, mainly because O'Shea is the worst proponent, it's conservative to the extent of being nearsighted.  Coaches need to think beyond the end of the game and prepare players for future deployment as they would soldiers.  A QB can't react to game conditions with any confidence if he isn't given the opportunity to properly prepare for the challenge he'll face.  It's like throwing babies into the deep end of a pool and deciding the one that doesn't drown is the best!



 

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 06, 2025, 06:14:23 PMI hate this thinking, mainly because O'Shea is the worst proponent, it's conservative to the extent of being nearsighted.  Coaches need to think beyond the end of the game

Ok, you're up 2 TD, you put Wilson in and he instantly throws a pick six.  Now all the momentum is on the opponent side and you have a great chance of losing the game.

Remember, WPG beat MTL down 2 TDs with 1:40 on the clock.  You think MOS forgets this?  That's why you need at LEAST 3 scores to consider putting in your backup.

"Oh Wilson won't throw a pick-six, or if he does he shouldn't be here."  Ya, so D's the last few weeks have been ballhawking like crazy, picking off #1 QBs left, right and center.  If they can pick off Dru, BLM, Trevor, Rourke... what do you think they'll do to Wilson?

I think it's the nature of the CFL game that makes it near impossible to get reps for the backups.  And it's clearly not just MOS, because almost no team puts in their backup while ahead without a 3 score buffer... unless their backup is a future superstar.
Never go full Johnston!

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Quote from: Tecno on October 06, 2025, 07:13:41 PMOk, you're up 2 TD, you put Wilson in and he instantly throws a pick six.  Now all the momentum is on the opponent side and you have a great chance of losing the game.

Remember, WPG beat MTL down 2 TDs with 1:40 on the clock.  You think MOS forgets this?  That's why you need at LEAST 3 scores to consider putting in your backup.

"Oh Wilson won't throw a pick-six, or if he does he shouldn't be here."  Ya, so D's the last few weeks have been ballhawking like crazy, picking off #1 QBs left, right and center.  If they can pick off Dru, BLM, Trevor, Rourke... what do you think they'll do to Wilson?

I think it's the nature of the CFL game that makes it near impossible to get reps for the backups.  And it's clearly not just MOS, because almost no team puts in their backup while ahead without a 3 score buffer... unless their backup is a future superstar.


No need to panic, if the backup struggles and the opponent begins to seriously threaten a comeback, reinsert the starter to secure the win.  It's a good situation for both QB's to experience,  making a big deal of it is the worst think a coach could do.