Winnipeg @ Montreal

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on August 17, 2025, 12:52:58 AMMeh. I'm still not impressed.

T.Harris/SSK dink & dunk is stoppable.  We've done it many times.  The key is ignore pressure/sacks unless Harris is going deep.  Instead, fill the lanes, jump the routes.

The toughest problem is the SSK DL.  If we protect Zach, we'll move the ball.  SSK DBs are not that good (sans Milligan, and maybe Sayles).  All they know is zone while the DL forces mistakes.  Take away the pressure and SSK is vulnerable to the mid/deep pass and wide out game.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:33:15 AMWe have a long week, MTL short.  MTL has too many injuries.  The new QB will do new QB things.  He has less dev than our Wilson!  We can feast on all the usual new-QB mistakes.  Should be a great game for WPG D.

The best part is it's not a "trap game", because when you've been sucking as much as we have, every game, no matter how bad the team, should be a struggle.  However, we're on a definite uptrend, with the OL and DBs doing much better vs a week ago.


Morgan is in his 2nd season with the Als so I don't know that he has less experience than Wilson. Whether he's better or worse we won't know until Wilson gets a chance to play.

It's still better for us than having to face Evans who is also a good runner and has more experience.

Many of the Als injuries to top players are on 1 game IR. We won't know for a few days when we see IR reports to see whether they might play or not.

If Parker returns for the Bombers ( doubtful IMO ) then we shake up the secondary again. I'd expect Vaval to be the returner and back up DB.

If Logan returns then Vaval might be the starting CB primarily.

Same questions every week about how the ratio gets managed and who is healthy.
One game at a time.

Waffler

Morgan does not have much time to practice for us. One day maybe. We have film on him now. That's a lot of pressure on the guy. All in our favor. But we still have to get pressure on him and make him uncomfortable. Do things he will have trouble recognizing.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Waffler on August 17, 2025, 02:27:21 PMMorgan does not have much time to practice for us. One day maybe. We have film on him now. That's a lot of pressure on the guy. All in our favor. But we still have to get pressure on him and make him uncomfortable. Do things he will have trouble recognizing.

Exactly. We do have troubles with inexperienced QB's in the past. It's time we break that failure. Als are much better when their roster is healthy but at the moment they are in serious troubles. Bombers enter this game fairly healthy although replacing both CB's recently is still a work in progress.

I liked the addition and play of Allen against the Redblacks and obviously D. Brown is a more experience QB than Morgan.

We should be optimistic but we must learn to play for 60 minutes not 57 minutes. The 2nd half of games has not been our friend.

One game at a time.

Jesse

Morgan looked pretty confident. I don't expect any less of a challenge than if it was MBT or Evans playing.
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bwiser

I noticed that Morgan never threw the ball down field further than 20 yards. I wouldn't worry too much about a deep threat.

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Quote from: bwiser on August 17, 2025, 03:50:24 PMI noticed that Morgan never threw the ball down field further than 20 yards. I wouldn't worry too much about a deep threat.

Doesn't look like a runner either, looks more like a pocket passer, kind of reminded me of Dolegala. Throws a nice ball and didn't make too many unforced errors, in this one game he already played more than Terry Wilson.

The Zipp

it will be a tough game - they all are...if our offense continues to have long stretches of sputtering it will be a tough game.  we have lost to 4th stringers before.

theaardvark

Morgan backed up by Daisy Dukes.  Wonder who they airlift in for spot 3...

I'm liking our chances, depending on how our secondary comes together next practice.
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Pete

One thing that Dru Brown did against us that I feel would be very useful against Mtrl is that he got the team to the line very quickly on every play. This gave him a chance to read the defense prior to snap and make adjustments.
Mtrl does a lot of blitzes from various directions and actually does a good job disguising. but still with Zac seeming to take a bit of time in his reads this could help.
Also the sooner you get to the line the less time the defense has to set up

dd

Quote from: theaardvark on August 17, 2025, 05:46:27 PMMorgan backed up by Daisy Dukes.  Wonder who they airlift in for spot 3...

I'm liking our chances, depending on how our secondary comes together next practice.
I m thinking if we get Houston up to speed and Allen starting at safety, and Parker potentially coming back,  the secondary is the least of our worries.

BBRT

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 17, 2025, 07:38:53 AMT.Harris/SSK dink & dunk is stoppable.  We've done it many times.  The key is ignore pressure/sacks unless Harris is going deep.  Instead, fill the lanes, jump the routes.

The toughest problem is the SSK DL.  If we protect Zach, we'll move the ball.  SSK DBs are not that good (sans Milligan, and maybe Sayles).  All they know is zone while the DL forces mistakes.  Take away the pressure and SSK is vulnerable to the mid/deep pass and wide out game.


I completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.

The Zipp

hopefully it's just us fans looking ahead to Sask ...we can do it without impacting the game on thursday. 

hit harris and make him uncomfortable is how you beat him.  no pressure, no hits and can and will pick this defence apart. 

our offence also needs to sustain drives to keep him off the field.  winning in Regina will be very, very hard. 

dd

Quote from: BBRT on August 17, 2025, 09:03:51 PMI completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.
Ya, Riders are the best in the west for a reason. Darn near impossible to beat them at home, especially during Labour Day. We will do good if we can hang with them in the LDC, I just don't think we're there yet, but getting pieces like Houston and Allen in place, and Adams back at DT, things are definitely shaping up defensively, offensively we'll need Schoen and Wilson back to beat the Riders

Pete

Quote from: BBRT on August 17, 2025, 09:03:51 PMI completely disagree with you. Harris can go long if and when required. Far better arm that Zac. SSK DB's are better than what we have period. SSK OL is better and their DL is light years better. We will not be able to apply pressure on Harris and if we do his wideouts will beat our DB's everytime.
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