Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 13, 2025, 10:27:38 PMHere's what I think is happening:
One gets the sense that there is a bit of tension between O'Shea, Walters and Miller.
My reading of the tea leaves is that O'Shea wanted to stretch this core against the judgement of Walters and probably Miller, the former who brought in a bunch of young QBs and probably advocated for a complete overhaul, earlier. That approach was rejected by O'Shea and the pieces that were aligned to that vision were cut pretty quickly and/or sent to the PR pretty early on in June.
Now we're dealing with egos, a bit of a rift between the three of them and teams courting O'Shea offering more player personnel control, which ya, is the exact message you'd deliver if the above is true and you are thinking strategically.
I'd put some good money on this and it actually aligns with a few things I've heard around. Grain of salt. But I'd stand behind it as the most probable scenario.
Quote from: dd on Today at 01:31:01 AMBeauty is in the eye of the beholder, there's lots to like about toronto and area - muskokas, kawartha lakes(MOS is a huge fisherman and hunter), niagara falls, zip across to buffalo to take in a Bills game, no -30 degree winters, can get rid of his block heater, his travel schedule for playing east teams is a driveable for 2 of the 3 teams, etc etc. I've lived in both places and would live in southern ontario in a heartbeat.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 13, 2025, 11:08:16 PMVancouver is still a great city to live in, Toronto is a congested hell-hole by comparison. The Lions practice facilities are in Surrey which would allow Buck to live in a number of nearby communities that are very nice.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there's lots to like about toronto and area - muskokas, kawartha lakes(MOS is a huge fisherman and hunter), niagara falls, zip across to buffalo to take in a Bills game, no -30 degree winters, can get rid of his block heater, his travel schedule for playing east teams is a driveable for 2 of the 3 teams, etc etc. I've lived in both places and would live in southern ontario in a heartbeat.
Quote from: dd on November 13, 2025, 10:30:57 PMSame could be said for Buck last year, ya he got his HC promotion, but the cost of housing is $1,000,000 difference between the 2 cities, he still left. guys go because they want to go, not because they have to go.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 13, 2025, 10:27:38 PMHere's what I think is happening:I think that scenario is likely also.
One gets the sense that there is a bit of tension between O'Shea, Walters and Miller.
My reading of the tea leaves is that O'Shea wanted to stretch this core against the judgement of Walters and probably Miller, the former who brought in a bunch of young QBs and probably advocated for a complete overhaul, earlier. That approach was rejected by O'Shea and the pieces that were aligned to that vision were cut pretty quickly and/or sent to the PR pretty early on in June.
Now we're dealing with egos, a bit of a rift between the three of them and teams courting O'Shea offering more player personnel control, which ya, is the exact message you'd deliver if the above is true and you are thinking strategically.
I'd put some good money on this and it actually aligns with a few things I've heard around. Grain of salt. But I'd stand behind it as the most probable scenario.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 13, 2025, 06:09:57 PMSeems weird to me but maybe he's under pressure from above to move on from his core vets and he's refusing to do so out of stubborn loyalty to them. MOS seems like the type that would rather move on rather then argue or carry on with a game plan he doesn't believe in.Same could be said for Buck last year, ya he got his HC promotion, but the cost of housing is $1,000,000 difference between the 2 cities, he still left. guys go because they want to go, not because they have to go.
Can't see the attraction in moving to Toronto, he probably lives in an upper class neighbourhood 20 minutes from work in a big house with lots of room for his family. Unless he's going by himself and living in a downtown hotel like Chris Jones always did, he won't be able to come anywhere near replicating the quality of life he enjoys in Wpg.