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#21
Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Cfl draft
Last post by Blueforlife - March 14, 2026, 07:09:55 PM
OL please and heavy
#22
Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Cfl draft
Last post by Blue In BC - March 14, 2026, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: Tecno on March 14, 2026, 04:46:00 PMVery hard to get a DB up to speed in 1st year in our crazy complex system.  Even Ty Ford didn't play much in year 1.

I guess it depends on how much we value "win now" vs investment for the future.  Me, I'm into "win now", and a 1RDP OL/DL can often start 1st year.

If that DB is going to be a CB or DHB then yes. OTOH, at safety not as difficult. I don't know where Elad would be looked at to play but I would be surprised if we picked any DB with our 1st pick.  Based on his college career he might be a SAM in the CFL.

Most probably think we go OL 1st and DL 2nd, then see who are BPA maybe with our 3rd pick.

Reports suggest this is a strong draft class. Whether an OL could start in year 1 I'm not convinced. Add to that what seems like a path to 3 import OL, then we're looking at Wallace as a 6th OL. Where does that leave ELI in the current mix and what happens with a 1st round draft pick?
#23
Quote from: Blue In BC on March 14, 2026, 01:23:35 PMSure but I'm looking at 2025 as the most critical info. He took a beating last year and the team takes a more cautious and necessary approach to pulling him after a hit. Obviously an improved OL and game plan would help.

All that said I think it's predictable that he's going to miss time. How much I don't know but we know that concussion issues are cumulative.  You are correct in your analysis.

Fingers are crossed we have a good # 2 in one of the rookies. Chances are he's going to see the field at some point.

It's been awhile since a rookie QB stepped in and led his team to multiple wins, maybe Cameron Dukes did it with the Argos, and Strev in his first season, but not many have been successful.  The team may glimpse the future in his play as they did with Dru Brown, but pretty unlikely a rookie QB is going to provide them with any wins if Zach goes down on the way to the Grey Cup which is likely to happen.

If Wilson steps in as #2, he'll be on the first page of his script so we have no idea whether he'll shine or fall, he is athletically gifted but may not have the mental tools to succeed like 95% of the other QB's that tried and failed.

Artoepous we'll never know what he brought although he looked like he had a good head on his shoulders in pre-season game #2 against the Riders, they never once thought to let him touch the ball again.  He wasn't cut so I guess they wanted him back, but possibly did next to nothing to convince him he had a future with the team in his year with the club.
#24
Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Cfl draft
Last post by Tecno - March 14, 2026, 04:46:00 PM
Very hard to get a DB up to speed in 1st year in our crazy complex system.  Even Ty Ford didn't play much in year 1.

I guess it depends on how much we value "win now" vs investment for the future.  Me, I'm into "win now", and a 1RDP OL/DL can often start 1st year.
#25
Quote from: Tecno on March 14, 2026, 03:22:53 PMPerkins/Thorne are still 3-down virgins.  I'm sure Wilson also had some pedigree before he first signed here.  Doesn't really mean anything.

Zillions of promising USA U QBs pass through the CFL.  99% suck like Brohm.  You can't pin your hopes on any rookie IMP QB because there's literally no way to tell anything until they get live snaps.

And don't sleep on my point about SY.  Still need a guy who can 99% get us 3rd & 1.  Can you tell that in TC with a rookie?  Maybe?  It's not easy or guaranteed, but it should be easier to tell than "can they play 3-down CFL ball".

It's all clear as mud, and we may have to take a couple of risky gambles and hope for the best.  Wilson does make a nice security blanket though, especially if no Strev.  Be nice if we could find a way to keep him in the bullpen... PR or on the couch with his phone programmed to block all other teams.  MTL, for instance, would like a more reliable SY guy after that Patterson boondoogle.


Yes I think you can tell that in TC about a QB's ability for short yardage. Athletic ability, football IQ, toughness and following blocking are all part of SY skill set.

Speed, strength, elusiveness and ability to read defensive alignments are all part of assessments. IIRC Wilson picked up short yardage pretty quickly.
#26
Offside Forum / Re: NHL Discussion (Other than...
Last post by JockitchwithRich - March 14, 2026, 03:25:28 PM
So the result is that AM is done for the season while Gudas
gets 5 games
#27
Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Blue Bombers add quarterba...
Last post by Tecno - March 14, 2026, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on March 14, 2026, 03:03:52 PMI don't know about that. Wilson has only 21 pass attempts. Perkins was MVP in the UFL and had more recent playing time. He was also a good runner.

Perkins/Thorne are still 3-down virgins.  I'm sure Wilson also had some pedigree before he first signed here.  Doesn't really mean anything.

Zillions of promising USA U QBs pass through the CFL.  99% suck like Brohm.  You can't pin your hopes on any rookie IMP QB because there's literally no way to tell anything until they get live snaps.

And don't sleep on my point about SY.  Still need a guy who can 99% get us 3rd & 1.  Can you tell that in TC with a rookie?  Maybe?  It's not easy or guaranteed, but it should be easier to tell than "can they play 3-down CFL ball".

It's all clear as mud, and we may have to take a couple of risky gambles and hope for the best.  Wilson does make a nice security blanket though, especially if no Strev.  Be nice if we could find a way to keep him in the bullpen... PR or on the couch with his phone programmed to block all other teams.  MTL, for instance, would like a more reliable SY guy after that Patterson boondoogle.
#28
Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Blue Bombers add quarterba...
Last post by dd - March 14, 2026, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: Tecno on March 14, 2026, 08:36:46 AMGreat post.  Ya, as MOS always says "don't worry about what you can't control".
Exactly, I m all for discussing Thome or Perkins or Wilson —the guys we have in our locker room, and who cares about those who aren't
#29
Quote from: Tecno on March 14, 2026, 01:58:31 PMWith Chase gone, strangely enough, assuming Strev isn't ready or re-signed, Wilson will likely be safe in his job.  He's a ready SY guy (which we don't have otherwise), and he's the only guy with years of 3-down ball under his belt.  And you gotta believe he can read a CFL D better than any rookie, having been steeped in it for like 3 years now.

The only fly in the ointment would be Elgersma.  Or if we do a late vet-backup pickup.  And if that doesn't happen, I could really see us still eyeing Strev after his 9+ month recovery.

Yes, none of this is ideal.

I don't know about that. Wilson has only 21 pass attempts. Perkins was MVP in the UFL and had more recent playing time. He was also a good runner.

Now if Perkins ends up as our # 2 QB then Wilson may be safe. I'm not so sure he's kept around just to do that if he's not the development QB.

Thorne spent three seasons at Michigan State before transferring to Auburn. At Auburn he threw for 4,468 yards and 37 touchdowns and rushed for 798 yards and five touchdowns in 22 starts. During his college career he recorded 10,961 passing yards and 86 touchdowns, along with 1,068 rushing yards and 11 rushing touchdowns in 53 games (46 starts).

I could see Thorne making a bid to be the # 3 QB. Played at good US colleges.  Seems more impressive back ground than Wilson.

Having 2 QB's with no CFL experience has to be a concern though.






#30
Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Blue Bombers add quarterba...
Last post by Tecno - March 14, 2026, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on March 14, 2026, 01:23:35 PMFingers are crossed we have a good # 2 in one of the rookies. Chances are he's going to see the field at some point.

With Chase gone, strangely enough, assuming Strev isn't ready or re-signed, Wilson will likely be safe in his job.  He's a ready SY guy (which we don't have otherwise), and he's the only guy with years of 3-down ball under his belt.  And you gotta believe he can read a CFL D better than any rookie, having been steeped in it for like 3 years now.

The only fly in the ointment would be Elgersma.  Or if we do a late vet-backup pickup.  And if that doesn't happen, I could really see us still eyeing Strev after his 9+ month recovery.

Yes, none of this is ideal.