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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 24, 2025, 02:31:19 PMI had to listen to it a handful of times, but I think he said he doesn't see that.

Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2025, 02:37:22 PMHe literally says he "doesn't see diminished arm strength", if that's what you're counting as acknowledgement.

Listen again.  You're not taking into account the entire run-on sentence and what he's trying to get out.  It's ambiguous at best and can be taken either way:

"I don't see his diminishment of arm strength I don't see it as a diminish of of talent and be able to move the pocket"

To me he may have been trying to say:

I don't see his diminished arm strength as a sign of diminished talent and being able to move the pocket

Because the "it" is referring to the prior subject of "diminished arm stength".

Besides, the whole world knows by watching film that Zach's "effortless" range is 45Y, 50Y if he gives it welly, and 55Y if he goes all in and likely gets a sore muscle for his trouble.

Compare that to Evans, who Condell had in HAM, who could chuck it 60 with a tiny flick.

You wouldn't want Condell coming in blind thinking Zach can chuck it like Evans could and planning around 65Y bombs.  Surely Zach and MOS and Hogan told Condell what the reality is.  Or Condell just watched Zach play against him the last 2 seasons...
#2
Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2025, 07:51:03 PMHe's been here for two years and hasn't earned any reps over a shell of Chris Streveler. I'm of the opinion that guys show very quickly if they are going to be good or not.

Except as everyone always brings up: Calvillo says hi.  I wasn't watching when he was starting out or getting good, but people tell me he was pretty bad for many, many years.  Then he was the best.

That said, I think it would take a miracle for Wilson to be the next Calvillo.  Clearly Calvillo has a lot going on upstairs (he's now a very good OC!) -- Wilson sounds like he has as much upstairs as Kenny does.
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Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PMKeeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart.

Dom Davis says hi.  Another WFC waste of time.  Man they tried hard to make him a #1, then at the very end a SY.  He stunk at both.

Wilson is like Dom Redux.  Sad.
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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: NFL Option Clause
Last post by Tecno - Today at 04:05:37 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on December 24, 2025, 05:26:35 PMJ. Grant didn't get a  new opportunity in the NFL IIRC. Vaval is currently exploring one. The process is random. Did Vaval show more than Grant early in his career?

I don't think it's as random as you think.  Grant had a big glaring "he's a FUMBLER" on his NFL scouting reports.  Vaval does not.  They both look somewhat similar in their rookie year.  The edge of the "not a fumbler" thing gets Vaval a look and Grant a lump of coal.

That said, I still have no idea why Strev stuck so long when Rourke got not much of anything.
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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: NFL Option Clause
Last post by Tecno - Today at 04:03:21 AM
Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2025, 02:39:43 PMThose are players whose CFL contracts expired before they left. Nothing to do about that.

No, we're talking about an ELC IMP who just finished their rookie season: season 1 of a 2 year contract.  They are still under contract when they head down the FA between their season 1 and 2.  If they stick for 1+ years, then they return complete FAs, even though when they left they were still under contract.

I want to see that contract continue, like the NFL time never existed.  The CFL could do this.

What happens is a team scouts the supreme top guys, they light up year 1, then leave until year 3 (or more).  Then they return and do the Henoc mercenary tour.  Instead they should still be locked to that original team for another year.  (The money aspect would have to be worked out, though...)
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Quote from: VictorRomano on December 24, 2025, 07:18:25 PMEmilus re-signs in Saskatchewan. :(

Absolutely no shock there.  They need to keep the NAT REC ratio up so they can go all (or all but 1) IMP on D, or use 3 IMP OL.

Is K.Johnson in FA this year?  That's the real prize (but no passport).
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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: NFL Option tryouts
Last post by Tecno - Today at 03:52:03 AM
Quote from: theaardvark on December 24, 2025, 05:35:51 PMAnd for those whose dream gets shattered when the NFL doesn't bite, we get a Schoen, or a Wilson, or hopefully. more Trey Vaval...

The CFL: built upon the shattered dreams of IMPs?

Not a very catchy slogan!
#8
Quote from: Blue In BC on December 24, 2025, 01:15:39 PMBonds may have some upside but we'll see and have a bunch of rookies looking to win spots on AR or PR. Bonds won't necessarily continue on an ELC since he's completed his 1st contract and is a potential free agent.

Right, but he hasn't really proven much yet -- the only ones paying attention to him are us.  And now he has an injury history.  As such I doubt he fetches much of a bump above ELC.  We'd offer him what we offer any other non-star(yet) in their first FA.

My hunch is he's back, or he gets a call mid-year when his knee is healed.
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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...
Last post by bunker - December 24, 2025, 11:55:46 PM
Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PMIf he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.




I don't think they think in such black and white terms as "not good enough to play QB in a game". They assess their skills as a potential starter, and my guess is that if Zach is currently a B to B+, and Strev was a C, then Wilson was grading out as a C-. Not great. But not necessarily worse than any other QB on the planet either. Plus factor in that he already knows the offence to some extent, he's good at short yardage, and he may be a high character guy as well. So, before you let him go, you need to find someone who either grades higher right now, or shows the potential to surpass him. In the latter situation, where there is just future potential, my guess is they will keep a QB like that on the PR. In TC, if anyone shows better than Wilson, or a lot more potential that Wilson, Wilson may be cut. But its not a given until they assess the other QBs. And its not a given that whoever is kept instead of Wilson is all that great either, and may not be seen as ready to start in a game either. Sometimes you may have to keep a QB on the roster that your not thrilled with in terms of getting real game reps, because there is not much better available, or the available options are too expensive.
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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...
Last post by Jesse - December 24, 2025, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PMIf he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.





Well, I guess we'll see if he comes back. It was his second year and he was good as a SY QB, which is all he ever should have been asked to do as a #3. So I don't think he was kept around too long.

But I think we know enough to move on now unless he is returning to be a specialist.