Quote from: jets4life on Today at 12:35:11 AMIt's possible that the sports culture in Toronto has changed to the point that the people in the city no longer will support a league that they consider "second class."
The Argos are not alone. The city has tried the AHL and OHL either in the city or nearby suburbs (Mississauga, etc). If the team is not the Leafs, the people tend not to support it
Toronto has gone from a metro area of under 3 million people to an international city of over 7 million. My guess is that nothing other than the NFL will work there.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 08, 2025, 02:37:06 AMYou forget some of the statements Brady made the last time he was a FA? He pissed off a lot of Bomber fans me included, he's not afraid to play both sides of the fence to get what he wants, I got the impression he doesn't take his words all that seriously and sees negotiations as a game. He maybe right.Count me in as one of the fans he pissed off, and I for one am tired of this BS negotiation tactic he's doing. I really hope he does moves on, as only then will he realize what a good situation he has here. I really couldn't care if he re-signs, Peterson will literally take the ball and run with it, better than BO ever did. He has way more talent than BO.
Quote from: Jesse on December 08, 2025, 11:43:10 PMHe still took us for all we were worth last time around and will do the same this time.
All those other factors only come into play when the money is close.
Quote from: Tecno on December 08, 2025, 09:58:55 AMSure you can, if you know that WPG will pony up at least close to that amount. It would be a gamble, but you could run the numbers and be fairly safe. It would be quite a poker accomplishment, though. Not sure other GMs would want to spend so much brainpower and energy on the singular goal of shafting WFC out of an extra $50k SMS... but they could!thats why you need to be aggressive to sign him before free agency, BC did that with Hatcher signing him right away to avoid all the uncertainty
For example, if we offer Brady $250k and every one knows it, then BC could offer $300k knowing that Brady will take $275k to stay in WPG -- and WM will force it to make it happen anyway.
But if BC doesn't offer that $300k, then Brady MUST accept the original $250k or be jobless. That's a very low-risk situation for BC (or whoever). In fact the numbers could all go higher (with more risk, of course).
Quote from: blue_or_die on Today at 12:21:25 AMI was very sad to have missed the first one and so will do my best to get to this one. I totally get it's for the novelty and gimmicks and I'm fine with that. Marries my two loves together.
Quote from: blue_or_die on Today at 12:29:56 AMBut ya gotta think the money WILL be close. Even if the bidding gets uncomfortably high, I think we will keep pace.
Quote from: Tecno on December 08, 2025, 10:13:59 PMBut also consider that if you're on the team B 35 and you blow it on 3rd & medium, that team is only 15Y from midfield, and only 65Y from the other EZ. In other words, if you blow the gamble you're giving them pretty good starting field position.
Coffin or hem them at their 5 and they must drive the entire field.
I can see only ONE thing possibly increasing: many 3rd & mediums in "no mans land" will be a 5YL, GL or EZ shot -- in other words a deep low-percentage shot -- because an INT will be equal to a punt. However, once coaches coach every DB on batting down these shots instead of INTing them, it'll revert to being a failed gamble and you have that field position problem in my first paragraph again.
The CFL already has a no mans land area, and yet still only 1-2 coaches "go for it" regularly. Namely Dickenson The Greater. Why would the ultra-conservative other coaches suddenly be in The Gamblin' Mood? MOS will still take his deep FG shots -- 62Y will become the norm for Castillo. Teams with 43Y max FG range (read: Parades) and a strong Ozzie P will do a lot of coffin shots.
Maybe you'll have a few in-between coaches going for it more... maybe. But if they get burned by a lot of failures, they'll be forced to do more kicking, less gambling.
Quote from: bomber beetle on Today at 12:27:53 AMThere is also the theory that MLSE demanded these changes and the league bent to their demands.
Maybe this is the truth. And if it is, what of it?
If MLSE is not happy the Argos are probably dead and gone. The Argos could easily be the next Valour. Who could blame MLSE for dumping this franchise that almost no one in a huge city wants to watch?
Regardless of what the truth is, everyone should keep in mind the precarious state the league is in.