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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by Tecno - Today at 08:59:28 AM

I am surprised that people think coaching is unimportant in quarterback success.

Specially while blaming much of our offensive failure last season on coaching.

I'm not sure anyone said QB coaching is unimportant.  The problem is it's a completely hidden world to us.  The QB coach doesn't get pressers.  We don't get to see or hear what they do.  We have no idea if a QB is good (or improves) because of a particular QB coach, or in spite of them.

Half the time fans have no idea who their team's QB coach even is.

I'm sure it matters, but it's not a very splashy or coveted job in the CFL.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Bombers sign QB Payton Tho...

Last post by Tecno - Today at 08:55:18 AM

$10k above an ELC is an insult to Holm.

Bonds.  Injured-and-still-not-totally-proven Bonds is worth $10-$20 above ELC at this moment.

Holm will be north of $150k.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: CFL (Non-Bombers) off-seas...

Last post by Pete - Today at 03:18:14 AM

Ya the riders have the luxury of having several capable receivers to re sign. Sure they ll lose some to FA, but they are deep in receivers so losing 1 or 2 isn't going to break their back.

the recievers numbers may be overstated as the thing they had in common was a very accurate qb. I dont think Meyers or Bane would fair as well in our offence.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: CFL (Non-Bombers) off-seas...

Last post by dd - Today at 02:43:03 AM

Ya the riders have the luxury of having several capable receivers to re sign. Sure they ll lose some to FA, but they are deep in receivers so losing 1 or 2 isn't going to break their back.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by Pete - Today at 01:31:19 AM

Not entirely true, Adams played and won games his first season.

"Adams started the final three games of the regular season, throwing four touchdowns and rushing for another while winning all three games"

he averaged 179 yards passing in those games with 56% passing not exactly stellar. He was initially considered a backup to such "big" names as Pipkin and Manziel but did go on to be the starter in his 4th year. Hes the prototypical qb that took time to become effective

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Offside Forum / Re: Fishing Manitoba 2025

Last post by Pigskin - December 28, 2025, 10:55:37 PM

First time out on the ice today. Fishing right in front of our dock in about 12 to 14' of water. The ice is about 12" thick. Started off with a 5/16 jig and frozen minnows, had some success but mostly small keepers. Changed over to a 5/16  jigging lure with a 3" paddle tail, and that was the answer.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Bombers sign QB Payton Tho...

Last post by Jesse - December 28, 2025, 08:58:01 PM

$10k above an ELC is an insult to Holm. Who is by far the best cover DB in the league. Teams avoid throwing his way. I am hoping Walters makes him a fair Nd equitable offer. We shouldn't expect players to play for nothing. I d take Evan holm over any DB in the league, pay the man accordingly.

Holm is one of the higher paid DBs in the league. They were talking about Parker and/or Bonds, I think.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Bombers sign QB Payton Tho...

Last post by dd - December 28, 2025, 08:45:54 PM

Why not?  It's cheap, wouldn't require any signing bonus, and will be 100% SMS free until he's healed.  Then voila, you have a healthy fresh experience DB come labor day right when you're getting creamed with injuries.

$10k above ELC on a 1-year and it's a done deal.  Make it so, number one!

$10k above an ELC is an insult to Holm. Who is by far the best cover DB in the league. Teams avoid throwing his way. I am hoping Walters makes him a fair Nd equitable offer. We shouldn't expect players to play for nothing. I d take Evan holm over any DB in the league, pay the man accordingly.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by Throw Long Bannatyne - December 28, 2025, 08:41:27 PM

vernon adams did nothing the first 3 years before he became effective. Fajardo much the Same, But if a qb isn't able to to move the offence in the first two years they don't seem to progress talent wise and all of a sudden be able to read defenses. For example Wilson hasn't been able to make things happen.
I would suggest also qbs that rely on their running ability to be effective don't end up being consistent starter material ie Crum, Streveler, Jones

Not entirely true, Adams played and won games his first season.

"Adams started the final three games of the regular season, throwing four touchdowns and rushing for another while winning all three games"

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Bombers sign QB Payton Tho...

Last post by theaardvark - December 28, 2025, 08:08:06 PM

Medical recovery costs are covered IIRC. Beyond that nothing as far as I know unless they are under contract. In those cases they get added to 6 game IR as " injured vet " or some similar designation. If the injury is very long term there might be some sort of buyout as we see in the NFL.

Rehab is covered by the team, but not living expenses or salary, until the injury has been rehabbed, or I believe a certain time period, maybe 2 years?  I think we had an issue with that with Jovan Johnson, didn't we?

So, if a player want to rehab, and wants the costs of that rehab covered, its probably in their best interest to stay local. 

Signing a team friendly deal that puts you on the IR to start the season costs the team no $SMS, and is good PR.  And, after the rehab is complete, if the player has not gotten up to game speed or recovered to the point of competitive play, but is healed, there is no reason they can't release the player without ever costing the team a single $SMS dollar.