Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 11:52:32 AMOur vets are the reason we have been so good for so long and made it to all those cups. Yes they decline but some can evolve and still impact like Willie. Time will tell how much impact he will have this year. I believe he will earn his salary and help us win more game than he hurts us in.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 22, 2026, 11:32:22 PMI'm saying today. His season numbers are not great, but his last 5 games are much improved. And his F/O is incredible.
Quote from: TBURGESS on Today at 02:20:50 AMOnce a year, old vets get their game back for a short time and make everyone remember what they used to be. The rest of the time they get their paychecks based on who they used to be.Our vets are the reason we have been so good for so long and made it to all those cups. Yes they decline but some can evolve and still impact like Willie. Time will tell how much impact he will have this year. I believe he will earn his salary and help us win more game than he hurts us in.
Jefferson used to take games over. He was one of my favs, but he's been going downhill for a couple of years now. Hanging on to guys like him are one of the reasons the team has been on the decline for a couple of years now.

Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 01:36:13 AMVeteran players at the tail end of their career are massive assets for any team. They are consistent, reliable and can still preform. I rarely agree with your take and don't here. Willie will continue to provide big plays, disruptions and significant leadership. Willie in him prime was a game changer. He still has the ability to help us win imo.Once a year, old vets get their game back for a short time and make everyone remember what they used to be. The rest of the time they get their paychecks based on who they used to be.
Many been saying the same about our older vet OL who we will benefit from greatly. Not to mention our star QB. Mr. Harris says hi. Denny says hello lol, ok stretching there.
Quote from: TBURGESS on January 22, 2026, 11:09:15 PMYou don't improve anything by retaining guys well past their prime.Veteran players at the tail end of their career are massive assets for any team. They are consistent, reliable and can still preform. I rarely agree with your take and don't here. Willie will continue to provide big plays, disruptions and significant leadership. Willie in him prime was a game changer. He still has the ability to help us win imo.
Quote from: gobombersgo on January 22, 2026, 08:42:49 PMWe will find out from 3DownNation soon enough if he is one of the top 10 paid Dlinemen in the league.the reason we may have signed him even at a similar cap hit to ly is that there may well not be any viable alternatives in free agency, really the main guys left are Carney and Ceresna even if they are still available you have to know it will be a bidding war which we are not likely to participate in. The possibility to replace him with a rookie is also a long shot as weve benn unable to even replace Jeffcoat adequately since he left.
If he is not listed at least we will know what the maximum he will be making.
Works for me.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 22, 2026, 08:43:49 PMYes, the Jets need a capable 2C looking to the near future and beyond.
By what metrics is Toews "of the best 2Cs in the league" right now? He's excellent in the FO circle but that's about it. He doesn't drive the play like he used to, his offense has declined, his defensive game has slipped, and he's slowed down - all things to be expected of a soon-to-be 38 year-old whose best days are behind him and who spent roughly two years away from the game. I don't fault him, just to be clear; this is a failure of management. The Jets are the oldest team in the NHL and it shows more often than not.
Within the Central alone, I can think of a handful players I'd rather have centering the second line: Steel, Necas, Nelson, O'Reilly, Schenn.
But that's just me.