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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by bunker - December 24, 2025, 11:55:46 PM

If he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.

I don't think they think in such black and white terms as "not good enough to play QB in a game". They assess their skills as a potential starter, and my guess is that if Zach is currently a B to B+, and Strev was a C, then Wilson was grading out as a C-. Not great. But not necessarily worse than any other QB on the planet either. Plus factor in that he already knows the offence to some extent, he's good at short yardage, and he may be a high character guy as well. So, before you let him go, you need to find someone who either grades higher right now, or shows the potential to surpass him. In the latter situation, where there is just future potential, my guess is they will keep a QB like that on the PR. In TC, if anyone shows better than Wilson, or a lot more potential that Wilson, Wilson may be cut. But its not a given until they assess the other QBs. And its not a given that whoever is kept instead of Wilson is all that great either, and may not be seen as ready to start in a game either. Sometimes you may have to keep a QB on the roster that your not thrilled with in terms of getting real game reps, because there is not much better available, or the available options are too expensive.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by Jesse - December 24, 2025, 11:12:46 PM

If he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.

Well, I guess we'll see if he comes back. It was his second year and he was good as a SY QB, which is all he ever should have been asked to do as a #3. So I don't think he was kept around too long.

But I think we know enough to move on now unless he is returning to be a specialist.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by markf - December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PM

What do you think they do everyday?

If he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by dd - December 24, 2025, 09:27:10 PM

we currently don't have our #2 Qb on our roster, we have to go find one.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by Jesse - December 24, 2025, 09:23:08 PM

Q: Has Wilson been given a fair shot to show his abilitiy?

A: Nooooooo.

What do you think they do everyday?

["real offers"]

#6

Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: NFL Option Clause

Last post by theaardvark - December 24, 2025, 09:19:02 PM

Dalton Schoen led the CFL in receiving yards his first season, he did not receive a second shot at the NFL as a reward, that is the reality. 

Most of the players being recruited know nothing about the CFL until a scout or an agent whispers it's a viable hack they can use to getting another crack at the NFL, after the majority have already been evaluated and rejected.

The CFL is a viable professional football league, they need to promote their stability and the opportunity they provide players to continue their careers and make a decent living playing football. For the exceptional few that excel and receive "real offers" from the NFL they should assist in anyway they can, but they should not accomodate teams like the NY Jets who grab a dozen CFL players every year just to fill their quota of rookies to use as TC fodder.

Schoen got workouts based on his success as a rookie in the CFL.  His game, though, seems to be amplified by the waggle.  So he didn't stick.

But to say he didn't get a second shot at the NFL during the NFL window is hogwash.  He got the looks BECAUSE of the CFL.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/14/nobody-was-willing-to-pull-the-trigger-nfl-teams-pass-on-bombers-rookie-sensation-dalton-schoen/

"Schoen's eye-popping statistics earned him a number of NFL workouts following the season, including with the Minnesota Vikings, Arizona Cardinals, and Cincinnati Bengals. However, the 26-year-old did not receive a contract offer as NFL scouts believe his production was inflated by taking advantage of the waggle motion in the CFL slot."

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by theaardvark - December 24, 2025, 09:13:53 PM

IMO Wilson will never be anything more than a short yardage guy, but he's good at it.
Artopoeus is too young and inexperienced to rely upon as the #2. Same with Elgersma if he even comes here next season.
Bryce Perkins is intriguing but who knows how he'll adapt to the CFL game, and he has zero CFL experience.
I would feel more comfortable if Walters brought in a QB with CFL experience as the #2, especially with Zach getting older and showing a greater tendency to get injured. Maier, MBT, Crum, Powell, Shlitz, all can win you games, and would be preferable to going with an unknown.

I'd far rather take a chance on a prospect with unknown but potential CFL ability over a retread.  Sorry, I'd rather have a won't be than a never was, as long as there is a chance he's the next one.

[Coty Wiles]

#8

Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2025...

Last post by gobombersgo - December 24, 2025, 09:08:20 PM

Coty Wiles  @CotyWilesSports

Can confirm Payton Thorne's contract with the Blue Bombers is through 28', as Winnipeg now has 5 QBs under contract:

Z.Collaros 26'
T.Wilson 26'
C.Artopoeus 26'
B.Perkins 27'
P.Thorne 28'

25' 2nd RD pick Taylor Elgersma also remains a FA, having had two #NFL workouts with the 49ers and Bears

Definitely one of the most intriguing QB rooms in the #CFL

#9

Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by bunker - December 24, 2025, 08:44:45 PM

IMO Wilson will never be anything more than a short yardage guy, but he's good at it.
Artopoeus is too young and inexperienced to rely upon as the #2. Same with Elgersma if he even comes here next season.
Bryce Perkins is intriguing but who knows how he'll adapt to the CFL game, and he has zero CFL experience.
I would feel more comfortable if Walters brought in a QB with CFL experience as the #2, especially with Zach getting older and showing a greater tendency to get injured. Maier, MBT, Crum, Powell, Shlitz, all can win you games, and would be preferable to going with an unknown.

[hasn't earned any reps]

#10

Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: 1st & 10 | The Complete Bl...

Last post by Throw Long Bannatyne - December 24, 2025, 08:14:03 PM

He's been here for two years and hasn't earned any reps over a shell of Chris Streveler. I'm of the opinion that guys show very quickly if they are going to be good or not. Wilson looks like any other guy that's tried and failed, imo.

I go to to a few practices a year as well and he throws more interceptions than completions.

Q: Has Wilson been given a fair shot to show his abilitiy?

A: Nooooooo.