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#1
Quote from: gobombersgo on Today at 12:08:03 AMGotcha. I thought you were referring to free agents.

Weitz and Adams finished the season on the practice roster so they weren't free agents.

Neither were Echols and Logan as they were under contract for 2026.

No but they were with the team last year and became actual free agents rather than potential free agents. There are not very many players that finished the season that were on the PR for most of the year.

Usually we see more retention going into TC.

#3
Quote from: gobombersgo on Today at 12:08:03 AMGotcha. I thought you were referring to free agents.

Weitz and Adams finished the season on the practice roster so they weren't free agents.

Neither were Echols and Logan as they were under contract for 2026.

....and yet Logan was released early and shortly after signs with the Argos.
#4
Quote from: Blue In BC on January 23, 2026, 11:59:33 PMI wasn't suggesting they were all important or starters but they were depth which can't be overlooked either. The 3 you mentioned were starters though and Weitz and Adams were 2 year players on the roster.

PARKER, Jamal
KOLANKOWSKI, Chris
WEITZ
ADAMS
ECHOLS
THOMAS, Jake
LOGAN


Gotcha. I thought you were referring to free agents.

Weitz and Adams finished the season on the practice roster so they weren't free agents.

Neither were Echols and Logan as they were under contract for 2026.
#5
Quote from: gobombersgo on January 23, 2026, 11:49:03 PMWho are you 7?

The only official releases/retirements I am aware of are Kolankowski, Thomas and Parker.

I wasn't suggesting they were all important or starters but they were depth which can't be overlooked either. The 3 you mentioned were starters though and Weitz and Adams were 2 year players on the roster.

PARKER, Jamal
KOLANKOWSKI, Chris
WEITZ
ADAMS
ECHOLS
THOMAS, Jake
LOGAN
#6
Quote from: Blue In BC on January 23, 2026, 11:56:43 PMAh, now there is at least something to debate. We have 3 Canadian and 2 import LB's that I think makes K. Wilson a casualty. OTOH he has the most experience and if we lose some others that may be needed.

I wouldn't like to see 2 new CB's particularly if we've shuffling a new deck on the DL. So Houston is needed unless Bonds is healthy for TC and they choose him. Noting he hasn't been re-signed either.

Vaughters, same issue if we don't sign Woods ( I don't think we do ) then potentially 2 of 4 on the front 4 are new. Yes we had a couple of rookies that played the last game, but I don't want to bank on that per se.

We don't yet know which free agents we'll add. Rookies may sit on the PR all year. IDK. We could sign the rookie of the year.
You know my preference for vets and how I favor Wilson but you make a good point as our LB depth is strong. We might pass.  Saves a buck.
#7
Quote from: Blueforlife on January 23, 2026, 11:48:56 PMNothing is certain in life.  I simply believe our D will be good based on the players we have, our top coaching staff and FA's we will add.

Parker isn't a big loss.  Thomas fairly early to replace and upgrade, his locker room impact and ability to mentor remains as he is a coach.  We will likely sign  2 out of the 4 you mention.  Wilson and Houston tops on my list.  Vaughters I would try to get but at the right price.  Woods I like but not a massive loss. 

This is the type of interact I prefer, we are talking ball.

Ah, now there is at least something to debate. We have 3 Canadian and 2 import LB's that I think makes K. Wilson a casualty. OTOH he has the most experience and if we lose some others that may be needed.

I wouldn't like to see 2 new CB's particularly if we've shuffling a new deck on the DL. So Houston is needed unless Bonds is healthy for TC and they choose him. Noting he hasn't been re-signed either.

Vaughters, same issue if we don't sign Woods ( I don't think we do ) then potentially 2 of 4 on the front 4 are new. Yes we had a couple of rookies that played the last game, but I don't want to bank on that per se.

We don't yet know which free agents we'll add. Rookies may sit on the PR all year. IDK. We could sign the rookie of the year.
#8
Quote from: Blue In BC on January 23, 2026, 11:23:44 PMWe have 17 potential free agents left. Also another 7 that have already been released / retired. 7 starters remain on that list, 8 if you include Schoen.

That sounds like a lot of players to change in an off season.  Whether we should or shouldn't sign some of those left is an interesting debate.  Whether we've re-signed more or less than other teams is not really relevant IMO.

At the moment this sounds more like a re-build than a tweak to the roster as O'Shea suggested.

I'm ok with all of that but the proof is in the result at the end of the season.  We finished 4th in the west and change is needed.

Who are you 7?

The only official releases/retirements I am aware of are Kolankowski, Thomas and Parker.
#9
Quote from: Blue In BC on January 23, 2026, 11:43:45 PMFacts are that we've lost / eliminated 2 starters on defence ( Parker and Thomas ). We have: K. Wilson, Houston, Vaughters and Woods as potential free agents.

If you can determine that with certainty we'll have a good defence I'd like to see your crystal ball. At this point the facts are we have no idea one way or the other.

If you can't take the heat get out of the fire. Nobody is making you respond if you don't like the feedback.
Nothing is certain in life.  I simply believe our D will be good based on the players we have, our top coaching staff and FA's we will likely add.  It's so early in the process, I think we will also fill holes with the draft, camp surprises and a FA hidden gems.  I like to make predictions, don't mind eating crow but don't feed it to me ask I'm cooking it lol.

Parker isn't a big loss.  Thomas fairly early to replace and upgrade, his locker room impact and ability to mentor remains as he is a coach.  We will likely sign  2 out of the 4 you mention.  Wilson and Houston tops on my list.  Vaughters I would try to get but at the right price.  Woods I like but not a massive loss but I would welcome him back on the cheap.

You and others roasted Thomas but now you worried about replacing him......

This is the type of interaction I prefer, we are talking ball.
#10
Quote from: Blueforlife on January 23, 2026, 11:28:25 PMI posted that I thought our D would be good this year, offense average and ST good.  You said that was blind faith which it isn't, just my opinion backed by information I have previously shared.  I have asked you repeatedly in the past and again for the last time, please stop using that language, it has no merit to the argument.  It has nothing to do with blind faith.  Just me posting my opinion based on a lot of factors including facts.

I haven't provided any arguments without facts that 100% not true in the kicker thread or this one.  I haven't provided any un-supported comments.  That is simply your opinion, doesn't mean its valid or shared by everyone.

I have clearly stated my thoughts on Willie and how he will earn his salary and SB&G called me out using similar language that you have which wasn't fair and not needed.  I thought he would make around 200 and I remain committed to saying he will earn that $.

I have routinely tried my best to keep the peace with you on here and if you can't do the same please use the forum features to avoid interacting with me.  I hope we can simply talk ball and avoid things like this in the future.  If not I will be requesting the mods to ask you to stop replying to my content to ensure this behavior stops.  Some of our interactions are a distraction to the forum at times and provide little value to other users.  You opinions, insights and knowledge about the league and Bombers is well received when we can avoid having me as the topic of discussion.

I don't mind being called out, having debates or being challenged; it's a big part of what this forum is about.  It's the manner in which you routinely choose to do it that I don't agree with or appreciate.  It's my goal to try to interact with everyone on here as respectful as possible while following the forum rules, not being a distraction or making it hard on the mods.  If you can do the same, we can move past this and continue talking ball as I value you as a member most of the time.



Facts are that we've lost / eliminated 2 starters on defence ( Parker and Thomas ). We have: K. Wilson, Houston, Vaughters and Woods as potential free agents. We may re-sign some or all of those 4 but at the moment it isn't looking that way.  Arguments could be made to re-sign or not for each of those players.

If you can determine that with certainty we'll have a good defence I'd like to see your crystal ball. At this point the facts are we have no idea one way or the other. 

If you can't take the heat get out of the fire. Nobody is making you respond if you don't like the feedback. Support your arguments better and you'll have less heat.

Many of us posters disagree but at least they make arguments using facts and realities which can be debated.