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Title: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: thurmas on March 07, 2020, 12:35:32 AM
Vanier Cup 2020 still does not have a home to host this year's CIS football biggest game which is a real shame in how the game has been so shabbily treated by CIS. It used to draw over 30,000 fans like the 2011 classic in Vancouver and now it only draws what 8400 in Quebec City really sad and the TV coverage or lack thereof that CIS football has now is pathetic. I urge Wade Miller and the Blue Bombers to team up with the Manitoba Bisons and host this game at IG field as it is very cheap to get the game rights and would be great for Manitoba and Western Canada to host a Vanier Cup.

https://3downnation.com/2020/03/05/v...-home-in-2020/


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: ModAdmin on March 07, 2020, 04:06:35 AM
An idea worth exploring.  Don't know what the financial implications are but CIS football can be very decent entertainment.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: pjrocksmb on March 07, 2020, 04:29:32 AM
hope it happens


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: DM83 on March 07, 2020, 05:38:45 AM
Bad idea.  Far,too,cold


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: blue_or_die on March 07, 2020, 01:17:22 PM
In 2007 when the Bisons won, they did the Vanier cup on the Saturday before the Grey Cup game in the same city, using the same broadcasting equipment that they needed to set up anyway. I thought it was a great idea and it was a huge success.

Not sure why this isn't the obvious model they follow. CIS is literally the farm league for Canadians in the CFL and so a tight relationship and some backing makes sense. I would love to see a partnership between CIS, CFL and TSN, at the very least to couple the cup game on the same weekend in the same city, integrating with the grey cup festival. They can package tickets for both games together, too.



Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Blue In BC on March 07, 2020, 02:38:20 PM
I remember the 2011 game in Vancouver. It was a very entertaining game and part of the Grey Cup experience. While I understand the cold aspect of playing in many Grey Cup cities, I like the idea of playing in the same city on Saturday.

If fans in a Grey Cup game city are going to shy away from cold, what does that say about support for Canadian players?  Isn't that the goal? Isn't that why we retain the ratio?

It's easier for me to say living in a city with a covered stadium. However I think it's important to send out the fans in whatever city the game is played, cold / snow or rain.

Conversely, if that isn't the model at the moment I'd be in favor of the game in Winnipeg in 2020.

Attendance in 2016 was 7115 and only 10754 in 2017. Decoupling from same city as Grey Cup caused massive decline in attendance and viewership.



Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: winbear on March 07, 2020, 05:39:33 PM
Bad idea.  Far,too,cold
Didn't stop fans showing up for an outside hockey game held at a colder time of year.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on March 07, 2020, 06:07:02 PM
I think it would be a really tough sell. Cold weather. A game featuring (probably) two teams with absolutely no connection to the community. I certainly wouldn't want to try marketing that. It's hard enough getting people to Bombers games in October and November.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Blue In BC on March 07, 2020, 06:58:37 PM
I think it would be a really tough sell. Cold weather. A game featuring (probably) two teams with absolutely no connection to the community. I certainly wouldn't want to try marketing that. It's hard enough getting people to Bombers games in October and November.

Either fans are invested in Canadian players or not IMO. Yes it's going to be a tough sell. College games don't generate large attendance at the best of times even for local teams.

Grey Cup games don't necessarily have much direct connection to the community either.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 07, 2020, 07:49:42 PM
Either fans are invested in Canadian players or not IMO. Yes it's going to be a tough sell. College games don't generate large attendance at the best of times even for local teams.


That's the conundrum, in most places University football isn't popular enough in Canada for fans to bother to attend games or care about the championship, so what's the point of it?  How long before these institutions follow the lead through to it's conclusion and do away with their football programs as a cost cutting measure.  The protest would be minimal. 


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Waffler on March 07, 2020, 08:39:58 PM
I'd like to see it. The media would have to pump it up well ahead of time as the "average" CFL fan knows little of University football. Any idea what ticket prices would be? Much better idea than a preseason NFL game anyway. 


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Blue In BC on March 07, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
That's the conundrum, in most places University football isn't popular enough in Canada for fans to bother to attend games or care about the championship, so what's the point of it?  How long before these institutions follow the lead through to it's conclusion and do away with their football programs as a cost cutting measure.  The protest would be minimal. 

True enough. I enjoy the play off games when they are televised but that's a small sample size. Without more games being broadcast it's difficult to get any significant interest and that's a shame.

It's obviously not cost effective and that's the root cause.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: blue girl on March 08, 2020, 12:13:48 AM
I'd like to get coverage of USport games. To tell you the truth I couldn't even tell you when The Bisons play. I think it says a lot that it is still being referred to as CIS when it's been USports for a few years now.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 08, 2020, 05:09:30 AM
I'd like to see it. The media would have to pump it up well ahead of time as the "average" CFL fan knows little of University football. Any idea what ticket prices would be? Much better idea than a preseason NFL game anyway

Hah!  No kidding.

I'd go to a Vanier at IGF, and I know nothing whatsoever about U football.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: DM83 on March 08, 2020, 05:30:20 AM
Attending the vanier at Toronto, watching the. Oys win was outstanding. I got a room overlooking the field, for the weekend.  Our group watched from my room, and later joined many alumni and. Coaches and players in the Skydime lounge for post game celebration.

Grey Cup day many friends again joined us in the suite, and watched the Grey Cup game.
Now that was a way to watch a Grey Cup!

My preference. Would be to join the two events.  A Saturday afternoon game is. Kind of a lull in the partying type time period.taking in the game, sobering up,,with more football is a potential perfect cure.

This would only be. Feasible in an Indoor facility.  No one would wantsbtomsta or stand outside in freezing temperature hung-over.  That would literally be dangerous


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: 1chad on March 08, 2020, 02:17:28 PM
I remember the 2011 game in Vancouver. It was a very entertaining game and part of the Grey Cup experience. While I understand the cold aspect of playing in many Grey Cup cities, I like the idea of playing in the same city on Saturday.

If fans in a Grey Cup game city are going to shy away from cold, what does that say about support for Canadian players?  Isn't that the goal? Isn't that why we retain the ratio?

It's easier for me to say living in a city with a covered stadium. However I think it's important to send out the fans in whatever city the game is played, cold / snow or rain.

Conversely, if that isn't the model at the moment I'd be in favor of the game in Winnipeg in 2020.

Attendance in 2016 was 7115 and only 10754 in 2017. Decoupling from same city as Grey Cup caused massive decline in attendance and viewership.



It was only do-able in Toronto and Vancouver because of the covered stadiums. There was/is always a concern that the field would be torn up with a game happening the day before.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: blue_or_die on March 08, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
That's the conundrum, in most places University football isn't popular enough in Canada for fans to bother to attend games or care about the championship, so what's the point of it?  How long before these institutions follow the lead through to it's conclusion and do away with their football programs as a cost cutting measure.  The protest would be minimal. 

That's why you package the Vanier game and Grey Cup game tickets together. Give fans 2 games while they're in town and taking in a Canadian football weekend.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Blue In BC on March 08, 2020, 03:14:41 PM
It was only do-able in Toronto and Vancouver because of the covered stadiums. There was/is always a concern that the field would be torn up with a game happening the day before.

Hard to tear up artificial turf. Besides the venue could be changed to the local university if necessary for the Vanier Cup and still be part of the Grey Cup experience.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Blue In BC on March 08, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
That's why you package the Vanier game and Grey Cup game tickets together. Give fans 2 games while they're in town and taking in a Canadian football weekend.

I'm not sure I'd be in favor of a forced package. Grey Cup tickets are already very expensive and that could cause an issue.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: theaardvark on March 08, 2020, 04:33:09 PM
Bundling the tickets is a way to flood the secondary market with Vanier Cup tickets... better than manadatory purchase, make it a discount available at time of GC ticket purchase for those that want to make it a weekend, and then sell the Vanier Cup tickets to those that want to be there, but can't afford the GC.  Otherwise, you end up with a huge number of great seats empty for the Vanier...



Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: blue_or_die on March 08, 2020, 07:11:28 PM
I'm not sure I'd be in favor of a forced package. Grey Cup tickets are already very expensive and that could cause an issue.

I just mean as an option that?s well encouraged. Like a ?Buy one get the other one 50% off? deal or something.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: PurpleReign on March 13, 2020, 02:51:26 AM
2017 Vanier what a sweet year.


Title: Re: Attention Wade Miller Vanier Cup 2020 game avialble to host bid on it!
Post by: Sec227 on March 17, 2020, 03:26:04 PM
The other issue. Hotel Rooms. Regina cant handle the Grey Cup, imagine needing 200-500 more rooms. I thought it may have been an opportunity to put in in Saskatoon this year. Make a football day in Sask type of thing. Im not sure it would have pulled too much away from the Grey Cup party. Not everyone can go. TV is the biggest issue. TSN doesn't have the rights to the game. Why would they want to give up that $$ from another network.
But, yeh. Give it a whirl here this year. Id go to the game