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Title: A truly inspiring game
Post by: BigBomberFan on October 26, 2019, 02:01:27 PM
As I'd mentioned in some threads here last week, it was overdramatic for some people to be calling for blowing up the team. We all want to win, but let's be realistic here--we were close and competitive with our 2nd string QB, and gave Calgary all they could handle. This was in addition to them minimizing our run game, and completely neutralizing Willie Jefferson and our pass rush to the point that BLM had ridiculous amounts of time to make decisions for his throws.

As the TSN guys pointed out, before this year, we haven't won a season series with Calgary since 2002.

As long as we were close and competitive in this one, I'd consider that a win. And the fact that we actually did win, was massive. Considering how cheap, dirty and whiny Calgary was in this one--a spoiled bunch of brats that have come to expect wins in this league to be easy and plentiful and for other teams to roll over and die-- it made it extra special that we won at the last second, as they did so many times with us on a final drive in a game. Clock management was outstanding in this one, and we played that last 1:41 or so like it should have been played.

Calgary has probably more raw talent, but we won this with guts and sheer tenacity. Most other years, we couldn't even win against them in garbage time with their backups in. Calgary had their foot fully on the pedal, with all of their starters, and it wasn't enough to win in a year where they're actually having to play for the best advantage in the playoffs that they can get, which is a rarity for them on all fronts. If ever there felt like a playoff game at the end of our season, it was this one. And Collaros, at least for this game, is writing his own redemption/ comeback story. A week of rest will do him and the rest of the team good.

Congrats, Bombers!!!


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: TBURGESS on October 26, 2019, 02:07:11 PM
We won in large part by taking advantage of Calgary mistakes.

Calgary shouldn't have tried to kick out of their end zone. Cost them a TD instead of 2 points.
Calgary missed a convert which we ran back for 2. That's 3 more points.
Calgary passed twice, both incomplete at the end of the game. 2 runs kill 40+ more seconds of clock.

We also made some great plays on our own.

The Collaros to Adams TD was a thing of beauty and the last drive for the winning FG was fantastic.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: dd on October 26, 2019, 02:09:35 PM
The rest will be good but more importantly it gives collaros more time to get further into our playbook and work more with our receivers to get more familiar with each other. I see collaros being stronger in his game and better yet in the final. He knew he threw the ill advised pass for the pick but he hadn?t played in a year and his read was wrong. That will improve with time and repetition. Very excited about our playoff chances and it?s been a long long time since I was able to say that!!


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Old Rusty on October 26, 2019, 02:11:53 PM
An amazing game.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: BigBomberFan on October 26, 2019, 02:16:52 PM
We won in large part by taking advantage of Calgary mistakes.

Calgary shouldn't have tried to kick out of their end zone. Cost them a TD instead of 2 points.
Calgary missed a convert which we ran back for 2. That's 3 more points.
Calgary passed twice, both incomplete at the end of the game. 2 runs kill 40+ more seconds of clock.

True. And in the previous game, Calgary had made an usual bunch of mistakes with a BLM interception. But that's also how the game goes, and for some reason, Calgary isn't quite as dominant this year. Having no real running back threat likely doesn't help, but the receivers have also had an unusual amount of drops in these past two games.

But you could also say that someone like Marcus Rios had cost us a certain amount of points in the previous game with costly drive extending plays, and it's no wonder that he's back on the practice roster.

For all the coulda woulda shoulda, we've also needed luck to beat teams--the last minute field goal by the Riders in the LDC comes to mind. For a change, we're on the other side and I'll definitely take it.

I'll also add that we're also now seeing real, true desperation out of Calgary--forcing plays to happen, and I suspect that's largely out of not having the big head and shoulders above the rest of the league lead in wins. Yeah, BLM was out for a good portion of the season, but so has our starting QB. It's nice to see them go through what the rest of us have to do to get by.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Blue In BC on October 26, 2019, 05:06:22 PM
We won in large part by taking advantage of Calgary mistakes.

Calgary shouldn't have tried to kick out of their end zone. Cost them a TD instead of 2 points.
Calgary missed a convert which we ran back for 2. That's 3 more points.
Calgary passed twice, both incomplete at the end of the game. 2 runs kill 40+ more seconds of clock.

We also made some great plays on our own.

The Collaros to Adams TD was a thing of beauty and the last drive for the winning FG was fantastic.

The team that makes the least mistakes usually wins. That includes turnovers, penalties and bad decisions.

Both teams made mistakes but with the game on the line, Calgary blinked so to speak and we pulled out the win.

I didn't have a good feeling when the Stamps marched downfield for a TD on the last series before half time.

Not exactly a specific mistake but an overall strategic fail for lack of a better expression.  How do we manage that in the 1st drive of the game and last drive before half time. Calgary had long field position in both instances.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Tiger on October 26, 2019, 05:32:40 PM
As I'd mentioned in some threads here last week, it was overdramatic for some people to be calling for blowing up the team. We all want to win, but let's be realistic here--we were close and competitive with our 2nd string QB, and gave Calgary all they could handle. This was in addition to them minimizing our run game, and completely neutralizing Willie Jefferson and our pass rush to the point that BLM had ridiculous amounts of time to make decisions for his throws.

As the TSN guys pointed out, before this year, we haven't won a season series with Calgary since 2002.

As long as we were close and competitive in this one, I'd consider that a win. And the fact that we actually did win, was massive. Considering how cheap, dirty and whiny Calgary was in this one--a spoiled bunch of brats that have come to expect wins in this league to be easy and plentiful and for other teams to roll over and die-- it made it extra special that we won at the last second, as they did so many times with us on a final drive in a game. Clock management was outstanding in this one, and we played that last 1:41 or so like it should have been played.

Calgary has probably more raw talent, but we won this with guts and sheer tenacity. Most other years, we couldn't even win against them in garbage time with their backups in. Calgary had their foot fully on the pedal, with all of their starters, and it wasn't enough to win in a year where they're actually having to play for the best advantage in the playoffs that they can get, which is a rarity for them on all fronts. If ever there felt like a playoff game at the end of our season, it was this one. And Collaros, at least for this game, is writing his own redemption/ comeback story. A week of rest will do him and the rest of the team good.
Congrats, Bombers!!!

Nice post. 

I agree it was inspiring.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: RicoBeBlue on October 26, 2019, 06:02:02 PM
As I'd mentioned in some threads here last week, it was overdramatic for some people to be calling for blowing up the team. We all want to win, but let's be realistic here--we were close and competitive with our 2nd string QB, and gave Calgary all they could handle. This was in addition to them minimizing our run game, and completely neutralizing Willie Jefferson and our pass rush to the point that BLM had ridiculous amounts of time to make decisions for his throws.

As the TSN guys pointed out, before this year, we haven't won a season series with Calgary since 2002.

As long as we were close and competitive in this one, I'd consider that a win. And the fact that we actually did win, was massive. Considering how cheap, dirty and whiny Calgary was in this one--a spoiled bunch of brats that have come to expect wins in this league to be easy and plentiful and for other teams to roll over and die-- it made it extra special that we won at the last second, as they did so many times with us on a final drive in a game. Clock management was outstanding in this one, and we played that last 1:41 or so like it should have been played.

Calgary has probably more raw talent, but we won this with guts and sheer tenacity. Most other years, we couldn't even win against them in garbage time with their backups in. Calgary had their foot fully on the pedal, with all of their starters, and it wasn't enough to win in a year where they're actually having to play for the best advantage in the playoffs that they can get, which is a rarity for them on all fronts. If ever there felt like a playoff game at the end of our season, it was this one. And Collaros, at least for this game, is writing his own redemption/ comeback story. A week of rest will do him and the rest of the team good.

Congrats, Bombers!!!

I'm not usually one for a lot of rah rah but in  this case, I am. Great post !!

The energy of the game no matter the mistakes, penalties and what have you it was a great game to watch. Can't wait and hope we have that gusto and more for the playoffs.

Maybe this is just me, but... Zack, for a player to have it all taken away from him, possibly to never play again. Traded twice in a year to make a start and inspire a team and a fan base (Canada wide) and get a dramatic win was a joy to watch.

Great game Blue and CONGRATS to Zack !
Makes me love the CFL that much more.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 26, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
I was inspired after a got over losing my cane in the pisser! Bollocks!

Awesome bobblehead!

Took advantage of the $5 beer but plus taxes? Really!?!? It was actually 5.50 per beer.

Rogers beeking at the crowd was comical. Donny C razed him good!

Just a fun night at the park. Worth every penny!


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: ModAdmin on October 26, 2019, 08:08:35 PM
Time give Donny C #1 star fan of the game. 


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 26, 2019, 08:17:05 PM
Time give Donny C #1 star fan of the game. 
HEY!  :'(


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: John T. on October 26, 2019, 08:24:52 PM
When the Bombers got the ball back with less than two minutes to go last night, I felt like they could drive down the field and win the game, and I wasn't even all that nervous about it.

I haven't had that feeling about the Bombers since the days of Khari Jones/Milt Stegall/Charles Roberts/Mike Sellers.

I like that feeling.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Blitzer on October 26, 2019, 08:37:25 PM
 It was an inspiring game. The Bomber defense hasn't played that well in the 2nd half of the season, but it doesn't mean they can't and it doesn't mean they won't. They may just put it all together for the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised at all.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: bwiser on October 26, 2019, 09:05:51 PM
We won in large part by taking advantage of Calgary mistakes.

Calgary shouldn't have tried to kick out of their end zone. Cost them a TD instead of 2 points.
Calgary missed a convert which we ran back for 2. That's 3 more points.
Calgary passed twice, both incomplete at the end of the game. 2 runs kill 40+ more seconds of clock.

We also made some great plays on our own.

The Collaros to Adams TD was a thing of beauty and the last drive for the winning FG was fantastic.
You can add a missed field goal that Grant ran back to center field


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: BigBomberFan on October 26, 2019, 10:12:48 PM
It was an inspiring game. The Bomber defense hasn't played that well in the 2nd half of the season, but it doesn't mean they can't and it doesn't mean they won't. They may just put it all together for the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Some of the losses in the last 1/3 of the season were demoralizing, but in many ways, it's better to make those mistakes now and learn from them and then come on strong at the end of the season. Some of our losses were pretty close; last week, the LDC, the other game where we lost by a point (and where Medlock ironically missed the first convert that he'd missed in a long time). Collaros played it smart; ran out the clock, moved the ball smartly down the field.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Blitzer on October 27, 2019, 01:41:36 AM
Some of the losses in the last 1/3 of the season were demoralizing, but in many ways, it's better to make those mistakes now and learn from them and then come on strong at the end of the season. Some of our losses were pretty close; last week, the LDC, the other game where we lost by a point (and where Medlock ironically missed the first convert that he'd missed in a long time). Collaros played it smart; ran out the clock, moved the ball smartly down the field.


 I agree. They've faced a lot of adversity this year. I think it will make them a better team. Like you say better to make mistakes now. I think the Bombers have the players they need to win it. They have to execute.
 I think they feel they could definitely win the Grey Cup with Collaros. They'll probably really be motivated now. One of the guys on the TSN broadcast said with Collaros and Streveler the Bombers are like a 2 headed monster now.  ;D


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: dd on October 27, 2019, 03:24:02 AM
I think the play of Collaros has everyone in the bomber locker room stoked, it is definitely possible to win the Grey Cup with this group of players, even on the road. And you don?t think Collaros wants to shut a bunch of critics and former teams that gave up on him/traded him??  He can go in and knock off the riders in the semi, smug BLM and whining Dave dickenson and prevent the home town team from playing in the big game, and  then beat the ticats in the grey cup, that script is too good!!!


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 27, 2019, 06:42:32 AM
When the Bombers got the ball back with less than two minutes to go last night, I felt like they could drive down the field and win the game, and I wasn't even all that nervous about it.

I haven't had that feeling about the Bombers since the days of Khari Jones/Milt Stegall/Charles Roberts/Mike Sellers.

I like that feeling.
Strange thing....but so did I.....we got decent field position but we still had to drive the field to at least their 40 and then Harris rips off 15 yards when we really needed it.    It was 3 down football for sure and we ran out the clock on them giving BLM no chance for one of his miracle comebacks.    We controlled the clock and the field and Money worked his toe magic for the W as the clock ran down to 0 seconds.   It was a thing of beauty and masterfully executed!   As much as it was Zach receiving most of the accolades it was a team victory in the end and we had a QB who answered the bell in the 12th round


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on October 27, 2019, 06:44:20 AM
Calgary is indeed full of whiners.. the biggest one is Dickenson.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: longtimeblue on October 27, 2019, 10:27:28 AM
The formula is that if you have an elite QB, you have a chance to win. Whatever happens going forward, Collaros has the talent to be elite. I did not pay much attention to him before. I thought he was a flash in the pan. But, the man has some talent.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: bomb squad on October 27, 2019, 01:45:15 PM
Strange thing....but so did I.....we got decent field position but we still had to drive the field to at least their 40 and then Harris rips off 15 yards when we really needed it.    It was 3 down football for sure and we ran out the clock on them giving BLM no chance for one of his miracle comebacks.    We controlled the clock and the field and Money worked his toe magic for the W as the clock ran down to 0 seconds.   It was a thing of beauty and masterfully executed!   As much as it was Zach receiving most of the accolades it was a team victory in the end and we had a QB who answered the bell in the 12th round

It was a team victory for sure. I'd like to give a shout out to McGuire though as well. He was a beast on our 3rd down gambles, filling in real nicely for Streveler. He also made a great play to bring down and hold the high snap for the final field goal. Showed great presence of mind in a pressure situation.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Pigskin on October 27, 2019, 03:37:31 PM
Mcquire look very composed. Even on the 2nd. and short when he threw that pass. He also has a very strong arm.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: bluebeard on October 27, 2019, 04:27:01 PM
I'm beginning of thinking of Mcquire as our future starting QB.  Seems to have a good arm and some running ability.  Bringing him around slowly will play huge dividends, not like throwing Strev to the wolves before he is ready.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2019, 05:37:41 PM
I'm beginning of thinking of Mcquire as our future starting QB.  Seems to have a good arm and some running ability.  Bringing him around slowly will play huge dividends, not like throwing Strev to the wolves before he is ready.
I like this idea as well.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: blue girl on October 27, 2019, 06:13:42 PM
I'd like to see more of McGuire. From the little that we've seen it looks like he can run and pass. Please Bombers if we're only going to be allowed to dress 2 QBs next year find a way to keep him. BTW I hate this rule more and more everyday.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
I'd like to see more of McGuire. From the little that we've seen it looks like he can run and pass. Please Bombers if we're only going to be allowed to dress 2 QBs next year find a way to keep him. BTW I hate this rule more and more everyday.
I believe he is under contract still?


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: blue girl on October 27, 2019, 07:00:50 PM
I believe he is under contract still?
I'm pretty sure that being a first year player he would have signed a 2 year contract.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 27, 2019, 08:11:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that being a first year player he would have signed a 2 year contract.
CFL "contracts" being what they are I'm wondering if we can bank our #2 QB hopes on a such small sample size?   Remember how many of us believed Streveler had the IT factor only to realize that he is one dimensional and may or may not develop into a fully rounded QB.   What we saw from Collaros on Friday was the best quarter backing we have witnessed as Bomber fans in a decade or more.    Given the fact that he had two weeks of exposure to our offensive schemes and only a couple of practices is even more impressive!   Was this a one time fluke or is it indicative of his potential to be even better?   I'm hoping he proves to Bomber brass, teammates, fans and the entire CFL entourage that this wasn't just a flash in the pan and that he can sustain this type of game winning play into the post season and even beyond!   


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 27, 2019, 08:18:19 PM
Awesome thread, awesome game and yes it slows down the blow up everything whining for a week LOL.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2019, 08:33:37 PM
Love the bobblehead pose by Harris after his big late game run. Classic.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 27, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Love the bobblehead pose by Harris after his big late game run. Classic.
missed that :(


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 27, 2019, 09:23:34 PM
missed that :(
Yeah....caught that on the replay!   😂😂


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: blue girl on October 27, 2019, 09:39:34 PM
CFL "contracts" being what they are I'm wondering if we can bank our #2 QB hopes on a such small sample size?   Remember how many of us believed Streveler had the IT factor only to realize that he is one dimensional and may or may not develop into a fully rounded QB.   What we saw from Collaros on Friday was the best quarter backing we have witnessed as Bomber fans in a decade or more.    Given the fact that he had two weeks of exposure to our offensive schemes and only a couple of practices is even more impressive!   Was this a one time fluke or is it indicative of his potential to be even better?   I'm hoping he proves to Bomber brass, teammates, fans and the entire CFL entourage that this wasn't just a flash in the pan and that he can sustain this type of game winning play into the post season and even beyond!   
I don't think what we saw from Collaros was a fluke. The bigger concern for him would be injuries. Remember he was considered a MOP candidate a few years ago before he injured his knee and now of course there are the concussion concerns. IF he can stay healthy and get back to the QB he was I would gladly give up the first round draft pick and sign him.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 27, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
I don't think what we saw from Collaros was a fluke. The bigger concern for him would be injuries. Remember he was considered a MOP candidate a few years ago before he injured his knee and now of course there are the concussion concerns. IF he can stay healthy and get back to the QB he was I would gladly give up the first round draft pick and sign him.
Problem is you give up the draft pick without a full understanding of his durability.  1st round pick is a big deal in any league and in the CFL where you need good Canadians to be competitive, it's essential we don't give them up.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
I don't think what we saw from Collaros was a fluke. The bigger concern for him would be injuries. Remember he was considered a MOP candidate a few years ago before he injured his knee and now of course there are the concussion concerns. IF he can stay healthy and get back to the QB he was I would gladly give up the first round draft pick and sign him.
I?m ok with him here this year but hard pass for me in us resigning him.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: blue girl on October 27, 2019, 09:49:04 PM
Problem is you give up the draft pick without a full understanding of his durability.  1st round pick is a big deal in any league and in the CFL where you need good Canadians to be competitive, it's essential we don't give them up.
The Bombers first round picks haven't been great. Also we had 2 this year which so far are working out. I'd rather have a competant QB especially if we don't win the Grey Cup this year.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2019, 09:55:35 PM
The Bombers first round picks haven't been great. Also we had 2 this year which so far are working out. I'd rather have a competant QB especially if we don't win the Grey Cup this year.
I do not believe in Zacks health over the course of the season. Not worth it to me.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 27, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
The Bombers first round picks haven't been great. Also we had 2 this year which so far are working out. I'd rather have a competant QB especially if we don't win the Grey Cup this year.
Im with you on that one.....QB is THE number one position around whom you build a team.   With regard to his durability long term, the same can be said about Matt Nichols.   Shoulder surgery is potentially career ending and his mobility won't get him very far.   It's a crap shoot unless of course you can get a Masoli or QB of equal stature....but even Masoli will be untested and unproven goods after his injury!  
Thing is Collaros is likely thinking about playing in the EC since he lives in TO.....that we have no control over!  


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 27, 2019, 10:09:57 PM
The Bombers first round picks haven't been great. Also we had 2 this year which so far are working out. I'd rather have a competant QB especially if we don't win the Grey Cup this year.
Can't get desperate and waste a pick potentially.  Too early to fully analzye this as we need to see much more good Zach before we give up a pick, imo.

I don't think the cup has much to do with our decision at QB next year other than the fact how our current QB preform in that game if we are lucky enough to make the big show.

I do not believe in Zacks health over the course of the season. Not worth it to me.

Agree, no draft pick in play and a cheap price tag I'm ok with but neither of those are true.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: blue_or_die on October 27, 2019, 10:28:36 PM
In even the best case scenario, Zach Collaros navigates the Winnipeg Blue Bombers through the playoffs and wins us a Grey Cup (lol), we hand him his ring, shake his hand, and we resolve our long-term QB questions (not just starter, but backup and development QB, too) and Zach walks away perfectly happy to have not only won a championship but also shoot his stock through the roof for another shot to start elsewhere. He can choose that route or sail off in the sunset as a champion, moving on and protecting his noggin from further injury.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 27, 2019, 11:50:28 PM
In even the best case scenario, Zach Collaros navigates the Winnipeg Blue Bombers through the playoffs and wins us a Grey Cup (lol), we hand him his ring, shake his hand, and we resolve our long-term QB questions (not just starter, but backup and development QB, too) and Zach walks away perfectly happy to have not only won a championship but also shot his stock through the roof for another shot to start elsewhere. He can choose that route or sail off in the sunset as a championship, moving on and protecting him noggin from further injury.

Collaros needs to think seriously about not resigning with the Argos, his career will not bloom again behind that O-line, MBT is now the new "toughest QB" in my book, after surviving the beatings he took this season.  They couldn't protect the great Ricky Ray in his last few years in the league, thus his career ended in a fizzle.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 28, 2019, 12:27:45 AM
I'd like to see more of McGuire. From the little that we've seen it looks like he can run and pass. Please Bombers if we're only going to be allowed to dress 2 QBs next year find a way to keep him. BTW I hate this rule more and more everyday.

I don't have to consult with my crystal ball to know we probably won't see McGuire play much next season, if the new rule goes through he'll end up on the PR behind two more proven QB's, it could be Nichols, Streveler or whoever, but McGuire won't be on the short list.  He might get moved up to the roster as an injury replacement but I doubt he'll be given the same shot Streveler received, if Bomber history is to be believed that will probably never happen again.  If per chance they lose two QB's to injury next season, I expect them to go shopping for another proven vet before giving McGuire a fair chance.  The success achieved with the Collaros gamble will only reinforce that strategy in Walters mind.



Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: dd on October 28, 2019, 12:33:24 AM
Collaros lives in Toronto , guaranteed he signs there to be with his family during the season vs live elsewhere. Guaranteed. Pinball will not lowball him and they need a proven, marketable Qb to sell tickets in the tough Toronto market. As much as I d live to see him here, he s going east next season no doubt about it.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: Blitzer on October 28, 2019, 01:12:45 AM
Collaros needs to think seriously about not resigning with the Argos, his career will not bloom again behind that O-line, MBT is now the new "toughest QB" in my book, after surviving the beatings he took this season.  They couldn't protect the great Ricky Ray in his last few years in the league, thus his career ended in a fizzle.

I agree. The Argos would probably ruin him. He said when he was traded that he wanted to come to Winnipeg. He thought they have a really good team and organization. He took a couple of shots to the head including the one in the first half on that partial slide. After the game he was asked by TSN how he felt after the hits and he said he felt fine!!


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: BigBomberFan on October 28, 2019, 01:36:37 AM
Collaros needs to think seriously about not resigning with the Argos, his career will not bloom again behind that O-line, MBT is now the new "toughest QB" in my book, after surviving the beatings he took this season.  They couldn't protect the great Ricky Ray in his last few years in the league, thus his career ended in a fizzle.

Good points. Ray took some punishing hits there, for sure.


Title: Re: A truly inspiring game
Post by: GCn19 on October 28, 2019, 12:10:47 PM
Im with you on that one.....QB is THE number one position around whom you build a team.   With regard to his durability long term, the same can be said about Matt Nichols.   Shoulder surgery is potentially career ending and his mobility won't get him very far.   It's a crap shoot unless of course you can get a Masoli or QB of equal stature....but even Masoli will be untested and unproven goods after his injury!  
Thing is Collaros is likely thinking about playing in the EC since he lives in TO.....that we have no control over!  

There are many, many QBs who have gone onto long and illustrious careers after leg or arm injuries. The list of players who have gone onto long and illustrious careers after missing significant time with concussions on multiple occasions is not very long at all. Bodies heal much better than brains.