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Title: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: DM83 on October 12, 2019, 08:26:37 PM
Adams sucks.

And he is slow . He can't out run or out jump anyone.
On the punt return he stepped out of the way of the return guy.  I thought he was the kicker, until I saw the other punter step aside,

You can at least fall down in front of the returner..

**** no wonder this team is losing.  Too many passengers.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: 15 Eagles on October 12, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
Agreed 100%
Couldn't have said it better !!!


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: dd on October 12, 2019, 08:35:30 PM
Adams sucks.

And he is slow . He can't out run or out jump anyone.
On the punt return he stepped out of the way of the return guy.  I thought he was the kicker, until I saw the other punter step aside,

You can at least fall down in front of the returner..

**** no wonder this team is losing.  Too many passengers.
I hear ya DM83 and couldn?t agree more. The biggest difference in our receiving corps and others, is the other teams #1 receiver makes plays, as he should. Ours doesnt. Time to put Lawler at #1, and have Adams run clearing routes


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: Blue In BC on October 12, 2019, 10:16:11 PM
Adams has not impressed me this year. We could very well move on from him in 2020.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 12, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Disagree, way overstated and it's pretty simple why this thread was started, to find a way to spread negativity at a time where it's hard to find people to criticize after a massive victory.  Adams having a down year and has disappointed at times, but still a good receiver and very important part of this ball club.

He is not the worst starting WR in the league, that's for certain.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: Slingin Sammy on October 12, 2019, 10:56:44 PM
Adams sucks.

And he is slow . He can't out run or out jump anyone.
On the punt return he stepped out of the way of the return guy.  I thought he was the kicker, until I saw the other punter step aside,

You can at least fall down in front of the returner..

**** no wonder this team is losing.  Too many passengers.

Agreed...move Lawler to X...Whitehead to Lawler's field side slot...keep Bailey in the slot...Adam's should be a scratch...or move him and Lawler around


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 12, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
Agreed...move Lawler to X...Whitehead to Lawler's field side slot...keep Bailey in the slot...Adam's should be a scratch...or move him and Lawler around

RECEPTIONS
43
YARDS
529
TOUCHDOWNS
4
AVERAGE
12.3

You don't bench a guy with reasonable numbers and who has the most experience.  Won't happen.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: Cheesebuster on October 12, 2019, 11:11:31 PM
Disagree, way overstated and it's pretty simple why this thread was started, to find a way to spread negativity at a time where it's hard to find people to criticize after a massive victory.  Adams having a down year and has disappointed at times, but still a good receiver and very important part of this ball club.

He is not the worst starting WR in the league, that's for certain.
Yep. Winnipeg fans are the worst winners. Always trying to crap on somebody.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 12, 2019, 11:11:49 PM
RECEPTIONS
43
YARDS
529
TOUCHDOWNS
4
AVERAGE
12.3

You don't bench a guy with reasonable numbers and who has the most experience.  Won't happen.
His performance these past few games has been underwhelming at best.   He is missing catchable balls at key points in games....he's certainly at the bottom of the pack as far as CFL WRs go.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: Slingin Sammy on October 12, 2019, 11:22:21 PM
RECEPTIONS
43
YARDS
529
TOUCHDOWNS
4
AVERAGE
12.3

You don't bench a guy with reasonable numbers and who has the most experience.  Won't happen.

I suggested benching or switching him to Lawlers field side slot with Lawler moving to X....your stats conveniently do not compare him to other X receivers in the league..he's at the bottom...we need to be better...Matthews was a bust...he was supposed to be our answer at X....mgmt will look to upgrade at X as they did last year...but maybe Lawler can be the guy...give him a shot in that spot..if that means Adams stays in the lineup somewhere else...whatever...but he's not an effective X receiver right now..


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 12, 2019, 11:28:27 PM
I suggested benching or switching him to Lawlers field side slot with Lawler moving to X....your stats conveniently do not compare him to other X receivers in the league..he's at the bottom...we need to be better...Matthews was a bust...he was supposed to be our answer at X....mgmt will look to upgrade at X as they did last year...but maybe Lawler can be the guy...give him a shot in that spot..if that means Adams stays in the lineup somewhere else...whatever...but he's not an effective X receiver right now..
We are stuck with him for this season however I'd be looking to upgrade him in the off season.   Give me a player who hustles to the ball and takes the ball away from defenders.   Haven't seen him do that and kind of reminds me of Matthews.   


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 12, 2019, 11:36:29 PM
I suggested benching or switching him to Lawlers field side slot with Lawler moving to X....your stats conveniently do not compare him to other X receivers in the league..he's at the bottom...we need to be better...Matthews was a bust...he was supposed to be our answer at X....mgmt will look to upgrade at X as they did last year...but maybe Lawler can be the guy...give him a shot in that spot..if that means Adams stays in the lineup somewhere else...whatever...but he's not an effective X receiver right now..

switch it up yes, bench no


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: dd on October 12, 2019, 11:44:56 PM
Well is he better than burnham in bc? Nope. Rogers in Calgary , nope, Evans in Saskatchewan, nope, Ellingson in Edmonton, nope. That would make him the worst in the west. Better than banks, nope, SJ green, nope, eugene lewis, nope, that leaves Ottawa?s wr, who since they suck so bad, I can?t recall who it is, but it?s between him and Adams of who?s the worst in the league, so if he?s not the worst he?s in the bottom 2!!!


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: lenny on October 12, 2019, 11:50:24 PM
Adams sucks.

And he is slow . He can't out run or out jump anyone.
On the punt return he stepped out of the way of the return guy.  I thought he was the kicker, until I saw the other punter step aside,

You can at least fall down in front of the returner..

**** no wonder this team is losing.  Too many passengers.

Agree. He's the 24th ranked receiver in the CFL and waaaaay down the list in YAC (106th).


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on October 13, 2019, 12:01:02 AM
Our receiving corp is the weakest in the CFL. We wont be winning any cups anytime soon if we dont spend the bucks.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 13, 2019, 12:07:57 AM
Well is he better than burnham in bc? Nope. Rogers in Calgary , nope, Evans in Saskatchewan, nope, Ellingson in Edmonton, nope. That would make him the worst in the west. Better than banks, nope, SJ green, nope, eugene lewis, nope, that leaves Ottawa?s wr, who since they suck so bad, I can?t recall who it is, but it?s between him and Adams of who?s the worst in the league, so if he?s not the worst he?s in the bottom 2!!!

Your thread states worst staring WR in league, that doesn't mean worst of the best guy on each team which you have now changed it to.  He is average, far from best, far from worst.    There are many starting WR in this great league, Adams is playing about middle of the pack this year, where normally he is closer to top 10-15.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Slingin Sammy on October 13, 2019, 12:19:38 AM
Your thread states worst staring WR in league, that doesn't mean worst of the best guy on each team which you have now changed it to.  He is average, far from best, far from worst.    There are many starting WR in this great league, Adams is playing about middle of the pack this year, where normally he is closer to top 10-15.

Clearly your opinion changes if the thread says he's the worst X receiver in the league...NO?  Pretty sure that's pretty much an objectively true statement...and a weakness Mgmt acknowledged as they pursued Ellingson and Walker hard during free agency...


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 13, 2019, 12:26:57 AM
Clearly your opinion changes if the thread says he's the worst X receiver in the league...NO?  Pretty sure that's pretty much an objectively true statement...and a weakness Mgmt acknowledged as they pursued Ellingson and Walker hard during free agency...
I believe we made the right decision not to overpay these guys.  I would have either of them but the price was too steep.  We are doing it my committee and that suits me fine.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Slingin Sammy on October 13, 2019, 12:35:27 AM
I believe we made the right decision not to overpay these guys.  I would have either of them but the price was too steep.  We are doing it my committee and that suits me fine.

Fair enough...I think all can agree...(Milt on panel most especially) that we don't have a true #1 receiver (x reciver)...it is an area that needs improvement...I think we should try others in that spot.  Adams has been given ample opportunity to demonstrate he can be that guy...by any objective measure...he clearly does not fill that role effectively when compared to other x receivers in the league


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 13, 2019, 12:39:11 AM
Fair enough...I think all can agree...(Milt on panel most especially) that we don't have a true #1 receiver (x reciver)...it is an area that needs improvement...I think we should try others in that spot.  Adams has been given ample opportunity to demonstrate he can be that guy...by any objective measure...he clearly does not fill that role effectively when compared to other x receivers in the league

agree


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Tiger on October 13, 2019, 02:01:28 AM
Fair enough...I think all can agree...(Milt on panel most especially) that we don't have a true #1 receiver (x reciver)...it is an area that needs improvement...I think we should try others in that spot.  Adams has been given ample opportunity to demonstrate he can be that guy...by any objective measure...he clearly does not fill that role effectively when compared to other x receivers in the league

I agreed.  That said he is far from worst imp WR in league.  Also when you look at his numbers compare to our other receivers who also have Lower numbers on run heavy team.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 13, 2019, 02:06:08 AM
I agreed.  That said he is far from worst imp WR in league.  Also when you look at his numbers compare to our other receivers who also have Lower numbers on run heavy team.

agree


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GCn19 on October 13, 2019, 02:27:04 AM
Crazy thread. CFL players voted him top 3 in most under rated player in the CFL.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue girl on October 13, 2019, 02:38:42 AM
Like it or not he's the #1 receiver here. The Bombers tried to sign another receiver in the off season but all they could get was Chris Matthews. Receivers don't want to come here and I now believe that it's because of LaPos system.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: dd on October 13, 2019, 02:42:14 AM
Your thread states worst staring WR in league, that doesn't mean worst of the best guy on each team which you have now changed it to.  He is average, far from best, far from worst.    There are many starting WR in this great league, Adams is playing about middle of the pack this year, where normally he is closer to top 10-15.
He?s our #1 receiver, I m just comparing him to other #1 receivers and you can see he?s at the bottom of the list of #1 receivers. We need a guy who can consistently produce, he had had consistency issues since he came here. Time to give bailey or lawler the #1 spot and put the ball in a playmakers hands vs a guy who has fought the ball since he got here.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Pigskin on October 13, 2019, 03:17:22 AM
Bailey has played 2 games and has looked very good. One bad drop tonight, but it's going to happen. Lawler has proven that he can play. Demski has been solid. Woli82 is back to playing and making some big blocks. Adams has been good, but not great for our #1 receiver.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: dd on October 13, 2019, 03:24:10 AM
Lawler and Bailey are far more athletic, give lawler the #1 role and let him run with it. I know MOS won?t change the lineup but he should.(how many times have we said that!!!)


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 13, 2019, 03:29:25 AM
He?s our #1 receiver, I m just comparing him to other #1 receivers and you can see he?s at the bottom of the list of #1 receivers. We need a guy who can consistently produce, he had had consistency issues since he came here. Time to give bailey or lawler the #1 spot and put the ball in a playmakers hands vs a guy who has fought the ball since he got here.

Ok I understand you position but your thread title doesn't state that.  Thanks for the explanation.

Disagree on his consistency.  He is coming of two years with 1000 yards each.  His numbers would be a little better year if Nichols wouldn't have gone down but this offense is spreading it around which is generally working fine.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: fansince79 on October 13, 2019, 04:27:01 AM
Adams drops way too many catchable balls to be a #1 receiver. He?s a free agent after this year. Time to move on. 


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: dd on October 13, 2019, 04:34:17 AM
Ok I understand you position but your thread title doesn't state that.  Thanks for the explanation.

Disagree on his consistency.  He is coming of two years with 1000 yards each.  His numbers would be a little better year if Nichols wouldn't have gone down but this offense is spreading it around which is generally working fine.
It?s not my thread. I clarified my position by saying as a #1 receiver in an offense , he?s the worst in the league, and he is. He?s not however the worst wide receiver in the league, but I?d have him playing the #3 position in our offense and I d be getting lawler and bailey the ball a heck of a lot more


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: 123James321 on October 13, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Darvin Adam's is a top tier receiver in the league. Lapos system this year is just terrible in the passing game. Doesnt matter who is at Qb... the passing game consistently gets under 200 yards a game for a reason other then the players. Bailey Lawler Adam's Demski and Wollitarsky is a good group of receivers. It is definitely the offensive system

Not that it's a bad thing. If we are killing it running the ball and still getting points then who cares if we have a receiver in the top of the stat line


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: BBRT on October 13, 2019, 01:37:03 PM
Disagree, way overstated and it's pretty simple why this thread was started, to find a way to spread negativity at a time where it's hard to find people to criticize after a massive victory.  Adams having a down year and has disappointed at times, but still a good receiver and very important part of this ball club.

He is not the worst starting WR in the league, that's for certain.

Here you go again! "Massive Victory?" No a Massive Victory would be if we can beat Calgary back to back (which we will have to do to get first or even a home playoff spot". IMHO he is an average at best receiver and has disappointed most of the time. As for the worse WR may not be the worse but he is up there as one of the worse IMHO.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Blue In BC on October 13, 2019, 02:18:13 PM
IDK. I'd say considering the problems over the last few weeks this victory does equate to a MASSIVE victory.

D. Adams is a good receiver but he's not going to win those 50/50 balls most nights even if our QB's deliver them on a frequent basis.

Lawler, Bailey and Whitehead seem to have a future with the team. Can't predict 2020 free agency, current contract lengths or costs.

It's possible that D. Adams is moved into more of a # 2 receiver spot in 2020?


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: 66 Chevelle on October 13, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
my only complaint with Darvin this week were his drops... one of them could have been a TD... I'll let it slide this week just for the fact that they didn't cost us a chance to win... but what I would really like to do is to put Bailey's 'want' into Darvin's game... then we'd have something...

I've been saying this for quite some time, but I'll repeat it again, just because I want to, lol...  we won't attract 'big name' receivers to Winnipeg... why?

1) this is probably one of the biggest factors, we are a self proclaimed RUN FIRST team!...

2) our OC prefers to incorporate a 'dink and dunk' type of offense...

3) our running back is our top targeted receiver... why?  see #1...

4) new receivers for the Bombers have a very limited window for success... why?  see #3...

5) our receivers our hand cuffed by the play calling... our OC doesn't have them running routes that take the most advantage of their natural abilities our attributes...

until we change the offensive scheme that we run and how we use or skill players expect more of the same... receivers don't get to choose the routes they want to run, the OC does...

however, I'd rather have 5 guys with 500 to 700 yds each than 1 guy with 1,200 yds...


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Pigskin on October 13, 2019, 03:43:04 PM
I am not going to put that Int on Adam's. Strv17 has tried that throw a few times and just can't make it. Lapo should stop calling that play.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 13, 2019, 04:33:08 PM
I am not going to put that Int on Adam's. Strv17 has tried that throw a few times and just can't make it. Lapo should stop calling that play.

Definitely a dumb time to give up an interception just before the half, especially considering they've lost the previous 2 games making similar mistakes.  Every win at this time of the year is critical, Strev. has to learn to play conservatively once he gets within Medlock's range and not turn over the ball missing out on points that are there for the taking.  At this point in his development he should not be gunning for the endzone unless he's within 20 yards and he knows exactly where the ball is going.  The Calgary secondary will eat his lunch if he doesn't play smarter.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: buckzumhoff on October 13, 2019, 05:00:32 PM
The play was a bad call. Cant blame Adams for that. No complaints at all about the receivers . They do their job, they block for running, they don't just go out catching the ball.  A Very Good Win for the Bombers. They ran the ball for 260 yards , owned Montreal.  The score was closer and could of been al,ot worse for Montreal.  They scored a touchdown late to make it look close, but the game was out of reach . Some looking picking away at things don't matter. If you want to blame Adams maybe blame Streveller for throwing it too short. And it was a important victory People saying oh Calgary back to back is important, well that wouldn't matter if they lost right. I know the bombers have to make that throw though . Just seemd maybe the wrong time since we marched right through their defense about 50 yards. But the bombers came out good in the second half.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue girl on October 13, 2019, 06:49:40 PM
My problem with the INT before the half was that IMO they shouldn't even have been throwing the ball. They run it down the field and then within FG range decide to pass. I'd have just run the ball again and then kick a FG if you have to and at least get some points. Good thing that it didn't come back to hurt them.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Horseman on October 13, 2019, 07:29:06 PM
Darvin, needs to be replaced.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Pigskin on October 13, 2019, 07:47:10 PM
There where forced to pass because they miss managed the clock on that drive. However they didn't to go for it all on one play. They had a time out, about 25 seconds on the clock. In The hurry up they probably could have ran 3 more plays.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 13, 2019, 08:18:49 PM
Here you go again! "Massive Victory?" No a Massive Victory would be if we can beat Calgary back to back (which we will have to do to get first or even a home playoff spot". IMHO he is an average at best receiver and has disappointed most of the time. As for the worse WR may not be the worse but he is up there as one of the worse IMHO.
Yup it was a massive victory to snap a big time losing streak, for a young struggling QB to pull that off on the back of a very good outing on D was massive.  No need with the "Here we go agains! LOL
 
Yes bigger games coming up but they would have mattered less if we didn't win and build momentum.  We beat a good team and made their QB look silly at times.

Yeah I hate guys that come off back to back 1000 yards, just terrible.  Just like the negativity around Denny over the years, never good enough for some fans.  BTW I believe Adams > Denny.   

It's fine not to like the guy but lets be realistic he produces and is having a slower year. 


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: lenny on October 13, 2019, 08:29:20 PM
Getting the ball to Darvin is one thing doing something with it is another. When your YAC is 106th then there's a problem We already have a possession receiver in Wolitarsky. Just a lot of redundant receivers.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst startingnWR in the league
Post by: kkc60 on October 14, 2019, 01:23:15 PM
Disagree, way overstated and it's pretty simple why this thread was started, to find a way to spread negativity at a time where it's hard to find people to criticize after a massive victory.  Adams having a down year and has disappointed at times, but still a good receiver and very important part of this ball club.

He is not the worst starting WR in the league, that's for certain.
I don't think hes the worst starting one in the league, but he's definitely bottom 2 for #1 WRs


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: iso_55 on October 14, 2019, 05:22:24 PM
Adams sucks.

And he is slow . He can't out run or out jump anyone.
On the punt return he stepped out of the way of the return guy.  I thought he was the kicker, until I saw the other punter step aside,

You can at least fall down in front of the returner..

**** no wonder this team is losing.  Too many passengers.

Jerry Rice would be a failure in LaPo's offense. He kills their career.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 15, 2019, 06:56:15 AM
Crazy thread. CFL players voted him top 3 in most under rated player in the CFL.

Ya, in 2017.  Darvin Adams fell off a bit in '18.  And he's really fallen off in '19.

I think Adams is afraid to get injured, after all he always has an annual injury, kind of like Dressler.

But Adams has been doing well in clutch situations and getting 2nd down conversions for us this year.

Yes, he needs to make that deep ball catch in the MTL game.  No excuse there.  He needs to flip the "playoff" switch on and start making those plays.  I think we're all just sore about that.  If he makes that catch this thread likely doesn't exist.  But keep in mind that even that incompletion loosened the MTL D a bit and made them respect the deep ball all game.

Let's see what he does in the playoffs.  If he keeps up this anemic pace, then just like Dressler, we'll probably let him go in the off season.

And I'm a big Adams fan.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: BigBlueCrew on October 15, 2019, 12:22:02 PM
We throw the ball 25ish times per game while most teams throw the ball 35-40 times per game. We would absolutely be wasting money on receivers like Burnham or Ellingson who need 10 targets per game as we don't run a pass heavy O. Darvin should be getting way more respect from us. He has been our leading receiver for the last 2 years while being the only guy we've had to reach 1000 yards. Clearly the worst receiver in the league LOL


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: BomberPride on October 15, 2019, 01:38:04 PM
We throw the ball 25ish times per game while most teams throw the ball 35-40 times per game. We would absolutely be wasting money on receivers like Burnham or Ellingson who need 10 targets per game as we don't run a pass heavy O. Darvin should be getting way more respect from us. He has been our leading receiver for the last 2 years while being the only guy we've had to reach 1000 yards. Clearly the worst receiver in the league LOL

Agree. I'd say we pass even less with Streveler.






Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GCn19 on October 15, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Adams seems to not be on the same page as Streveler is what it boils down too. He was playing good ball when Nichols was QBing. Sometimes, a different QB can throw some receivers off their game. No excuses for the drops that hit him in the hands but the interception in the end zone he had zero chance to make a play on that. It was a poor play call and a poor throw.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: BigBomberFan on October 15, 2019, 09:35:33 PM
While Adams is having a down year, I'm not ready to write him off, nor am I willing to keep the turnstile going with veteran receivers (Matthews, Dressler, etc) before knowing whether our WR's and deep threat guys are actually being set up to succeed or to fail. Someone posted a picture here in another thread of Nichols' completions this year to the various areas of the field, and the long throws--and catches--are generally failing and it's only the shorter routes and checkdown throws that are mostly being completed. It could be that our system is better suited for slotbacks, rather than WR's, I'm not sure.

Streveler has had some issues with accuracy with the deep ball, but so has Nichols, and that brings up the question of whether our QB's aren't executing the throws with accuracy, or whether it is the QB or receiver that has the route and/ or timing wrong. I like LaPolice, but Buck/ Jyles/ Elliott/ Brink weren't having much success with the deep ball when LaPo was HC and overseeing Barresi's offence, either, so there is a pattern.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 15, 2019, 11:54:04 PM
We throw the ball 25ish times per game while most teams throw the ball 35-40 times per game. We would absolutely be wasting money on receivers like Burnham or Ellingson who need 10 targets per game as we don't run a pass heavy O. Darvin should be getting way more respect from us. He has been our leading receiver for the last 2 years while being the only guy we've had to reach 1000 yards. Clearly the worst receiver in the league LOL

agree, but on here even back to back 1000 yards season isn't enough


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: dd on October 16, 2019, 12:45:54 AM
He?s definitely having a down here and has been inconsistent all year. Fan Frustration sets in when too many passes are on the carpet or picked and his effort to go get the ball is very much like Matthews s was, and where?s Matthews now?? Sitting in Montreal .

The cfl is very much a what have you done for me lately league. Look at matthews, definitely won?t be getting the big contract next year. Same goes for Wilder, a couple of years ago he?s tearing up the league and helped the Argos win the grey cup, now it?s lucky if he starts. And bowman, well he?s been shown the door already whereas a couple of years ago he was Edmonton?s top receiver. Nobody gives a rip what you did 2 years ago, it?s catch balls make plays or find someone who can and I think we re at the point where we ll have a new #1 next year.
 


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: rubanski on October 16, 2019, 02:16:50 PM
DM83 you are the single grumpiest poster this season. Get a SAD light man... seriously though, cheer up a little.

Adams is - at worst - a decent receiver. If you think he's the biggest problem on the team, you're out to lunch. Replacing Lucky was a great move, and the offence produced more thanks to it. The offence also looks better when Adams is in.

Two games in a row, Strev has tossed poor passes in the end zone to Adams that have been picked off. It's not the play calling either. A play is called, Strev reads the D, and is doing a very poor job of placing the ball where only his guy can get it. Fine play calling, good read by the QB, bad toss by the QB.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 16, 2019, 02:58:58 PM
It's really hard to evaluate a guy like Adams in our offense. We have 'no risk' Matt who only throws deep downfield if the receiver has beaten his guy by three yards and a young QB who is a better runner than a passer who is spending so much energy trying to limit mistakes in the passing game. Put Darvin in a different offensive scheme and he's suddenly a top 5 receiver in the league.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GCn19 on October 16, 2019, 03:00:51 PM
DM83 you are the single grumpiest poster this season. Get a SAD light man... seriously though, cheer up a little.

Adams is - at worst - a decent receiver. If you think he's the biggest problem on the team, you're out to lunch. Replacing Lucky was a great move, and the offence produced more thanks to it. The offence also looks better when Adams is in.

Two games in a row, Strev has tossed poor passes in the end zone to Adams that have been picked off. It's not the play calling either. A play is called, Strev reads the D, and is doing a very poor job of placing the ball where only his guy can get it. Fine play calling, good read by the QB, bad toss by the QB.

You simply cannot underthrow that route and Strev did so in back to back weeks. I don't care what receiver in this league is playing the result will be exactly the same. Underthrown balls on those types of routes are going to get picked.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue_or_die on October 16, 2019, 06:16:35 PM
It's really hard to evaluate a guy like Adams in our offense. We have 'no risk' Matt who only throws deep downfield if the receiver has beaten his guy by three yards and a young QB who is a better runner than a passer who is spending so much energy trying to limit mistakes in the passing game. Put Darvin in a different offensive scheme and he's suddenly a top 5 receiver in the league.

I thought that as well, but then started to recall memories of his drops and not hauling in catchable balls.

I don't want to be in this pile-on, but there's no doubt Darvin has taken a step back this year regardless of who is at QB (he was successful in this offense with these QBs in years past).

I want nothing more than for him to get out of what I believe is a slump, similar to what we are seeing from Woli.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 17, 2019, 04:10:20 AM
One of the pressers (CJOB on Tues I think) said Adams wasn't practising.  Could be he was nicked in the MTL game.  Or it could just be a "vet day".  So don't read too much into it either way.

There's always the option of starting Bailey and Lucky (or someone) and sitting Adams.  I wouldn't do that for a critical CGY game.  But some might.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue girl on October 17, 2019, 04:28:06 AM
I don't think that he practiced much last week either.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: rubanski on October 17, 2019, 01:06:18 PM
I don't think that he practiced much last week either.

That's what I was thinking as well.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Blue In BC on October 17, 2019, 01:19:57 PM
One of the pressers (CJOB on Tues I think) said Adams wasn't practising.  Could be he was nicked in the MTL game.  Or it could just be a "vet day".  So don't read too much into it either way.

There's always the option of starting Bailey and Lucky (or someone) and sitting Adams.  I wouldn't do that for a critical CGY game.  But some might.

Adams gets a few vet days but I think he did and is getting a little beat up as the season wears on. He's beginning to fall into the " Dressler " questions we had in previous years.

When he's healthy he can be very effective but he is getting older and more subject to needing some additional vet days.

I'm not sure if we know what his contact SMS or remaining years left are at the moment.

Eventually it comes down to cost versus productivity and who we have up and coming or can acquire in free agency.

IMO I'd like to see him back in 2020 in more of a # 2 role if it works SMS wise and who might be set to become # 1 receiver.



Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 17, 2019, 01:46:04 PM
Adams gets a few vet days but I think he did and is getting a little beat up as the season wears on. He's beginning to fall into the " Dressler " questions we had in previous years.

When he's healthy he can be very effective but he is getting older and more subject to needing some additional vet days.

I'm not sure if we know what his contact SMS or remaining years left are at the moment.

Eventually it comes down to cost versus productivity and who we have up and coming or can acquire in free agency.

IMO I'd like to see him back in 2020 in more of a # 2 role if it works SMS wise and who might be set to become # 1 receiver.



He's 29 and probably the best receiver we have. All of this is a little premature.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Jesse on October 17, 2019, 02:44:06 PM
He's 29 and probably the best receiver we have. All of this is a little premature.

Is he, though?

He's always had injury trouble and his hands are a little suspect.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Blue In BC on October 17, 2019, 03:54:55 PM
He's 29 and probably the best receiver we have. All of this is a little premature.

Not really. I'm not suggesting cutting him but we don't know what his SMS hit is at the moment. We might take a different view if his salary was $250K than we would if it was $175K. I understand he has the history of being the best receiver we have had. That in itself doesn't mean much considering the rotating door we've had.  I'm not entirely sure he is still the best receiver we have. Lawler and Bailey have looked good in smaller sample sizes of course.

It's at the point where he seems to need vet days to recover each week. There is no problem with that per se but if it seems to limit his productivity then there might be.

If for example we could sign Derel Walker for the same money, which receiver would you rather have?

How much less productive does he or any receiver seem, due to play calling or QB effectiveness? That's a giant question.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GCn19 on October 17, 2019, 04:11:25 PM
Not really. I'm not suggesting cutting him but we don't know what his SMS hit is at the moment. We might take a different view if his salary was $250K than we would if it was $175K. I understand he has the history of being the best receiver we have had. That in itself doesn't mean much considering the rotating door we've had.  I'm not entirely sure he is still the best receiver we have. Lawler and Bailey have looked good in smaller sample sizes of course.

It's at the point where he seems to need vet days to recover each week. There is no problem with that per se but if it seems to limit his productivity then there might be.

If for example we could sign Derel Walker for the same money, which receiver would you rather have?

How much less productive does he or any receiver seem, due to play calling or QB effectiveness? That's a giant question.


His salary is rumored to be around 185k per....and we would never, ever, get D Walker for the same price. He is making gargantuan money. 275k per is what was reported for Walker.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 17, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Not really. I'm not suggesting cutting him but we don't know what his SMS hit is at the moment. We might take a different view if his salary was $250K than we would if it was $175K. I understand he has the history of being the best receiver we have had. That in itself doesn't mean much considering the rotating door we've had.  I'm not entirely sure he is still the best receiver we have. Lawler and Bailey have looked good in smaller sample sizes of course.

It's at the point where he seems to need vet days to recover each week. There is no problem with that per se but if it seems to limit his productivity then there might be.

If for example we could sign Derel Walker for the same money, which receiver would you rather have?

How much less productive does he or any receiver seem, due to play calling or QB effectiveness? That's a giant question.


The last statement about play calling et al is relevant however I have noticed he has made key drops in successive games as well as others.   When the chips are down your best receiver needs to make those catches and he just doesn't win many jump balls or fight for it much either.   When Milt and the TSN panel were discussing the 7 top receivers in the league his name wasn't on the list or even In the top 10.   As it stands now he is ranked 25th just behind Lawler with 529 yards playing one less game than Lawler.   So as far as Bombers go his stats indicate that he's one of our top receivers.   His yard per catch average of 12.3 is less than either Lawlers (14.9) or Demskis (12.9).   He was originally recruited to be our long ball deep threat.
 


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Blue In BC on October 17, 2019, 05:06:54 PM
His salary is rumored to be around 185k per....and we would never, ever, get D Walker for the same price. He is making gargantuan money. 275k per is what was reported for Walker.

I'm not saying we'd be able to get Walker for that same amount although he may end up as a free agent again in 2020. The question was more about play making ability.

I'm just saying every player gets evaluated during the off season. Age, injury history, SMS, productivity and free agency.  The SMS is calculated on putting together the best team by the effective use of the SMS.

It's too early to know what happens in free agency or even whether Adams is a potential free agent as well.

Just saying I wouldn't be surprised if we go after a receiver in free agency ( again ) or whether we decide to shuffle around our 2019 rookies. Potentially I could see Adams dropping to our # 2 receiver even with the same salary.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: olwpgjet on October 17, 2019, 11:05:03 PM
Not saying Adams has been good but it is hard to compare our receivers across the board  because as mentioned earlier they aren't getting nearly as many looks as most teams. We are probably the biggest running team in the league. Harris I think is #1 in rushing and Strev in limited starts is  # 6 or 7 I think and the option plays to Demski, Whitehead etc., I like all that, gives us a lot of balance and options. Unfortunately, the receivers get the shorter end of that balance.  Strev is still finding his way as a passer and looking better all the time but the run has been our bread and butter this year, again the shorter straw to the receivers. Add in Harris receiving, This season we won't have any 1000 yard receivers ( barring a couple miracles), some of it is on the receivers but I think majority is not .


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 18, 2019, 12:40:26 AM
Not saying Adams has been good but it is hard to compare our receivers across the board  because as mentioned earlier they aren't getting nearly as many looks as most teams. We are probably the biggest running team in the league. Harris I think is #1 in rushing and Strev in limited starts is  # 6 or 7 I think and the option plays to Demski, Whitehead etc., I like all that, gives us a lot of balance and options. Unfortunately, the receivers get the shorter end of that balance.  Strev is still finding his way as a passer and looking better all the time but the run has been our bread and butter this year, again the shorter straw to the receivers. Add in Harris receiving, This season we won't have any 1000 yard receivers ( barring a couple miracles), some of it is on the receivers but I think majority is not .
some truth in what you are saying as Adams has only 43 receptions when all the top receivers are in the 70s to 80s and even higher.   Harris has the most receptions with 63 with an 8 YPC average.....so yeah our receivers don't get nearly the opportunities as other top receivers in the league.    Harris has been the primary offensive weapon and then throw in some defensive and STs scoring and there you have it.   
I just don't know if we thats enough to get us to Calgary on November 24.   In the Western Final last season the difference boiled to the Stamps having Rogers and BLM throwing him the ball.   Our D for the most part hung in there but we just couldn't match their offensive out put.   


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GCn19 on October 18, 2019, 11:13:30 AM
some truth in what you are saying as Adams has only 43 receptions when all the top receivers are in the 70s to 80s and even higher.   Harris has the most receptions with 63 with an 8 YPC average.....so yeah our receivers don't get nearly the opportunities as other top receivers in the league.    Harris has been the primary offensive weapon and then throw in some defensive and STs scoring and there you have it.  
I just don't know if we thats enough to get us to Calgary on November 24.   In the Western Final last season the difference boiled to the Stamps having Rogers and BLM throwing him the ball.   Our D for the most part hung in there but we just couldn't match their offensive out put.   

I think, this year especially, that our run first offence matches up much better than to our opponents than in years past.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 18, 2019, 09:30:33 PM
Is he, though?

He's always had injury trouble and his hands are a little suspect.

yes he is, 1000 yards last two


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: BigBomberFan on October 18, 2019, 10:24:57 PM
and his hands are a little suspect.

This made me laugh for some reason. "Quick, get out the mugshots, his hands are the suspect!!"


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: BigBlueCrew on October 26, 2019, 04:42:35 AM
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 26, 2019, 05:26:09 AM
what a catch tonight, impressive moment


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 26, 2019, 06:25:15 AM
He blew a 50/50 ball that all the other big-body #1 WRs would make, but he made up for a lot of bad games with that miracle Zach TD that basically won us the game.  Nice to see someone was working on scramble protocol, because every other team makes things happen on scramble, we seem to just roll over and die.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Blue In BC on October 26, 2019, 01:43:33 PM
He blew a 50/50 ball that all the other big-body #1 WRs would make, but he made up for a lot of bad games with that miracle Zach TD that basically won us the game.  Nice to see someone was working on scramble protocol, because every other team makes things happen on scramble, we seem to just roll over and die.


I wouldn't say he blew that catch against Roberson. Timing was a bit off and Roberson and Adams both made a play for the ball at the high point.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: TBURGESS on October 26, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Adams didn't blow the 50-50 ball. He played it great. Roberson had the pick and Adams took it away from him.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Tiger on October 26, 2019, 05:26:27 PM
Adams didn't blow the 50-50 ball. He played it great. Roberson had the pick and Adams took it away from him.

Agreed.  I thought it was a great defensive play by Adams. 

I think Adams is a good receiver but fans are on him.  The only play where I thought Adams did not do well was where Collaros scrambled and ?overthrew? Adams.  If Adams keep running and did not break off or give up that would have been a big gainer or maybe a touchdown.  That said they have not played with each other as of late and usually BB QBs run or throw to the back.  Adams will have to play a little more heads up.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 29, 2019, 12:03:24 AM
yeah I hate plays like this, terrible receiver, worst WR in the league for sure.  ::) ??? ;D :o :o :o  Yeah it was mostly Zach but it takes two to tango.  Nuff said my friends.

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/10/28/collaros-avoids-tackles-to-deliver-insane-pass-in-the-timber-mart-plays-of-the-week/


O did I mention it was #1 play of the week, wait for it! LOL


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Tiger on October 29, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
yeah I hate plays like this, terrible receiver, worst WR in the league for sure.  ::) ??? ;D :o :o :o  Yeah it was mostly Zach but it takes two to tango.  Nuff said my friends.

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/10/28/collaros-avoids-tackles-to-deliver-insane-pass-in-the-timber-mart-plays-of-the-week/


O did I mention it was #1 play of the week, wait for it! LOL

That was a play of beauty. 


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 29, 2019, 01:00:37 AM
That was a play of beauty. 
makes me proud and happy to be a Bomber fan


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue_or_die on October 29, 2019, 01:00:50 AM
yeah I hate plays like this, terrible receiver, worst WR in the league for sure.  ::) ??? ;D :o :o :o  Yeah it was mostly Zach but it takes two to tango.  Nuff said my friends.

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/10/28/collaros-avoids-tackles-to-deliver-insane-pass-in-the-timber-mart-plays-of-the-week/


O did I mention it was #1 play of the week, wait for it! LOL

This week's poll:

Who thought PJ would make this post?

- Everyone
- All

PJ, you do realize that one great play does not negate all criticism directed his way, right? Just like if our defense has one good game that it doesn't "make the haters crawl back under their rock"?


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 29, 2019, 01:09:25 AM
This week's poll:

Who thought PJ would make this post?

- Everyone
- All

PJ, you do realize that one great play does not negate all criticism directed his way, right? Just like if our defense has one good game that it doesn't "make the haters crawl back under their rock"?
correct he has been wickedly inconsistent. To many drops to be a #1 WR.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: pjrocksmb on October 29, 2019, 01:22:17 AM
This week's poll:

Who thought PJ would make this post?

- Everyone
- All

PJ, you do realize that one great play does not negate all criticism directed his way, right? Just like if our defense has one good game that it doesn't "make the haters crawl back under their rock"?
To suggest that everyone or all would think I would make this post is ridiculous but a little bit funny at the same time.  Big fan of Adams and I posted a video of him playing well.  My point was that he isn't the worst staring receiver in the league and I have provided a great example to back that up.  Didn't suggest anything else.  I don't see what this has to do with the defense but great job at making this about me.  I would suggest you focus on the ball club, the debate about the team.  Thanks for coming out!


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue_or_die on October 29, 2019, 03:02:24 AM
To suggest that everyone or all would think I would make this post is ridiculous but a little bit funny at the same time.  Big fan of Adams and I posted a video of him playing well.  My point was that he isn't the worst staring receiver in the league and I have provided a great example to back that up.  Didn't suggest anything else.  I don't see what this has to do with the defense but great job at making this about me.  I would suggest you focus on the ball club, the debate about the team.  Thanks for coming out!

Glad you found the poll razz funny (if you didn't get it, it was a shot at you making a poll where all voting options were essentially the same).

While the thread title was a bit hyperbolic, the main content of the thread pointed out that Adams has been extremely underwhelming in his position compared to the output of the equivalent for other teams. Posting an exceptional example does not prove otherwise. Just waiting for a divergence from a trend to throw out a toldyaso.

This is my opinion and I have every right to it. Folks can pile on and bully me but I will always defend myself.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 29, 2019, 03:20:04 AM
Albeit I am not a big Adams fan....he has made a few plays lately and he broke up a possible interception on a 50/50 ball.   He also has a QB now than can utilize his strengths and get him the ball a few more times a game.   He's what we have now and he's healthy....so I'm hoping to see some improvement in his production!


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 29, 2019, 06:11:58 AM
Adams didn't blow the 50-50 ball. He played it great. Roberson had the pick and Adams took it away from him.

Adams made a great defensive play, sure.  But he's a WR, not a DB.  A great WR would have come back for that ball, or slowed down earlier, and made the DB look like he was impeding him or just been in a better position than the DB.  As per the OP, a "better" WR, like Burnham or Begleton, might have made a play on that ball.  They'd find a way.

Yes, Collaros could have thrown a better ball, but not every ball is perfect.  That pass was the definition of a 50/50 ball and it's our WR's job to find a way to get it done.  The OP point is Adams rarely does, at least not this year.

I love Adams and wouldn't hesitate to keep him on the roster at a reasonable price, but he isn't the 50/50 answer the BB's desperately need.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: GCn19 on October 29, 2019, 11:11:10 AM
Adams made a great defensive play, sure.  But he's a WR, not a DB.  A great WR would have come back for that ball, or slowed down earlier, and made the DB look like he was impeding him or just been in a better position than the DB.  As per the OP, a "better" WR, like Burnham or Begleton, might have made a play on that ball.  They'd find a way.

Yes, Collaros could have thrown a better ball, but not every ball is perfect.  That pass was the definition of a 50/50 ball and it's our WR's job to find a way to get it done.  The OP point is Adams rarely does, at least not this year.

I love Adams and wouldn't hesitate to keep him on the roster at a reasonable price, but he isn't the 50/50 answer the BB's desperately need.


Roberson had body position. You cannot blame the receiver for running his route correctly and the QB delivering a poor throw.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: iso_55 on October 29, 2019, 11:39:09 AM
Adams sucks.

And he is slow . He can't out run or out jump anyone.
On the punt return he stepped out of the way of the return guy.  I thought he was the kicker, until I saw the other punter step aside,

You can at least fall down in front of the returner..

**** no wonder this team is losing.  Too many passengers.

Well, this comment has aged well. I think a lot depends on who is throwing the ball, don't you think? An actual qb or a running back who can play qb.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: 66 Chevelle on October 29, 2019, 12:16:57 PM
Adams made a great defensive play, sure.  But he's a WR, not a DB.  A great WR would have come back for that ball, or slowed down earlier, and made the DB look like he was impeding him or just been in a better position than the DB.  As per the OP, a "better" WR, like Burnham or Begleton, might have made a play on that ball.  They'd find a way.

Yes, Collaros could have thrown a better ball, but not every ball is perfect.  That pass was the definition of a 50/50 ball and it's our WR's job to find a way to get it done.  The OP point is Adams rarely does, at least not this year.

I love Adams and wouldn't hesitate to keep him on the roster at a reasonable price, but he isn't the 50/50 answer the BB's desperately need.


both of those throws to Adams were bad decisions on the part of the QB as he was covered well in both instances... but at least Darvin broke up the interception this week where he didn't the week before... but neither of those balls should have been thrown... period...


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
Roberson had body position. You cannot blame the receiver for running his route correctly and the QB delivering a poor throw.

Exactly. The title of this thread is brutally inaccurate... But then I saw the author, so it makes sense.

The fact is no receiver is having a memorable campaign in this offense. The talent is there; the usage is embarrassingly poor.


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on October 29, 2019, 04:44:58 PM
Exactly. The title of this thread is brutally inaccurate... But then I saw the author, so it makes sense.

The fact is no receiver is having a memorable campaign in this offense. The talent is there; the usage is embarrassingly poor.
we have a few weeks to ponder our future but rehashing this thread seems a little redundant....some new threads please!?


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: 66 Chevelle on October 29, 2019, 04:51:28 PM
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you all have seen this, right?

this is why we have no 1,000 yd receivers... disregard the QB name at the top ,it wouldn't matter who it is, with Lapo calling the plays this is what you're going to get... and you have to believe that who is sitting in that OC spot will influence a FA QB as to whether or not they want to come to Winnipeg...


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: dd on October 29, 2019, 04:55:58 PM
Our offense is built around the run game and throwing check down passes to stationary receivers 5-7 yards off the ball. It?s basically a youth league peewee level offense, not a pro offense. The recievers are basically sitting ducks to oncoming tacklers and yac yards are hard to come by.  It assumes our QBs cannot complete a pass to a moving target and in some instances, it?s the right offense to run. But clearly, collaros is capable of running a full motion pro offense effectively so our passing stats and effectively should go up. But there?s little wonder why we can?t attract a high end/big time receiver to come here?it would be suicide to his career!!


Title: Re: Adams is the worst starting WR in the league
Post by: 66 Chevelle on October 29, 2019, 05:11:54 PM
Our offense is built around the run game and throwing check down passes to stationary receivers 5-7 yards off the ball. It?s basically a youth league peewee level offense, not a pro offense. The recievers are basically sitting ducks to oncoming tacklers and yac yards are hard to come by.  It assumes our QBs cannot complete a pass to a moving target and in some instances, it?s the right offense to run. But clearly, collaros is capable of running a full motion pro offense effectively so our passing stats and effectively should go up. But there?s little wonder why we can?t attract a high end/big time receiver to come here?it would be suicide to his career!!

agree...

and who would have Adams running 3 yard curl routes in the first place?  physical is not a word I would use to describe Darvin and expecting him to turn those routes into something is just crazy...  not only is the scheme trash, the use of personnel is almost equally as bad...