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Title: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on September 12, 2019, 01:40:37 PM
Winnipeg Jets training camp opens on September 13, 2019.  Please use this thread to discuss the Jets in the season ahead.

We will leave the 2018/2019 season thread up for a few more weeks and then archive it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 12, 2019, 01:55:47 PM
Can't believe hockey season is almost upon us again... Man, this summer flew by.

I expect this team is going to look pretty different compared to the previous few seasons. Trouba, Myers, Tanev gone... Those were some pretty big pieces. I'm interested to see who steps up and what prospects can take the next step in their development going into the 2019/20 season.

I fully expect the Central to be a meatgrinder again this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 12, 2019, 02:07:15 PM
i will be surprised if the Jets make the playoffs this year...i think it will be a close one and they miss by a couple of points.  I don't think anyone could say the team actually got better in the offseason.  some of the younger players will have more experience and that may help a bit but there were no big jumps in talent coming into this team...if fact just the opposite.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 12, 2019, 02:36:58 PM
Morrissey gets a deal for 8 years

Morrissey?s eight-year, $50 million contract breaks down as the following with an AAV of $6.25 million:
2020-21: $8 million
2021-22: $8 million
2022-23: $5.2 million
2023-24: $8 million
2024-25: $6.4 million
2025-26: $4.8 million
2026-27: $4.8 million
2027-28: $4.8 million


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 12, 2019, 03:08:52 PM
Wow, that's a huge development! Kicks in next season, too. Great to have this stud locked up for the foreseeable future!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 12, 2019, 03:33:24 PM
AAV of 6.25 is a steal for Morrissey. Even paying him 8M next year and the year after is perfectly good value for money.

Hopefully wife buys me a Morrissey home jersey for Christmas :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on September 12, 2019, 04:02:13 PM
This is amazing news. I love the upfront money too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on September 12, 2019, 04:57:16 PM
This is Chevy at his best... dumps Trouba who gets $8mil, signs Morrissey at $6.25mil.

Now that 44 is figured, lets get 29 and 81 signed / traded ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Colton on September 12, 2019, 07:33:17 PM
dumps Trouba

Yeah that's what happened


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on September 12, 2019, 07:59:13 PM
Yeah that's what happened

Couldn't sign him, so he offloaded him for assets.  Probably held onto him a year too long, though... might have gotten more in return last year, but he used him like a self rental...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: drahgon on September 12, 2019, 08:40:31 PM
Can't believe hockey season is almost upon us again... Man, this summer flew by.

I expect this team is going to look pretty different compared to the previous few seasons. Trouba, Myers, Tanev gone... Those were some pretty big pieces. I'm interested to see who steps up and what prospects can take the next step in their development going into the 2019/20 season.

I fully expect the Central to be a meatgrinder again this season.

Also Chiarot is gone...

We shall see if any of the defensive prospects can take the next step this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 12, 2019, 09:50:47 PM
FANTASTIC ...... awesome athlete & Winnipeg ambassador which can be a positive point to think about ...... if other NHL pros consider the Jets for their trade to list
Kudos to JM & Chevy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 12, 2019, 10:04:34 PM
Fantastic deal for all parties involved. Congrats!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 13, 2019, 12:14:33 AM
Fantastic news! Morrisey is exactly the type of player that we needed to lock up. And the fact that he really wanted to stay here is awesome! Hope to hear a Laine/Connor signing this weekend!?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 13, 2019, 02:32:38 AM
Connor is coming up I believe. Liane is gonna be a real problem.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 13, 2019, 11:34:16 AM
Wonder what's up and for how long:

Winnipeg Jets say their star defenceman is taking a leave of absence.

Dustin Byfuglien has asked and been granted ?a personal leave of absence from the hockey team.?

Jets? spokesperson Scott Brown said Coach Paul Maurice and GM Kevin Cheveldayoff will address the media later Friday. He would not say how long the leave of absence is for.

More information to come.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 13, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
What the heck now?

Buff does not wanna go through camp.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 13, 2019, 12:39:03 PM
What the heck now?

Buff does not wanna go through camp.

I think that is it - doesn't want to put in the grind of camp.  Hope it is nothing serious...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on September 13, 2019, 12:45:26 PM
Chevy on the radio this morning wouldn't go into details.

Said, "our thoughts are with him", but also said he and his family are alright.

I was pulling into work so didn't catch the whole thing, but I don't believe he gave a timeline.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 13, 2019, 10:59:00 PM
With Mitch Marner getting a deal worth $10.893 million per season, how will that impact the Jets for signing deals with Connor and Laine? Ouch is all I can say.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 14, 2019, 03:19:49 AM
Mitch is little better then Laine and Connor at this point in there careers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 14, 2019, 04:25:14 PM
Laine is off to Switzerland to train with a team. Seems like it may be a while before his contract is signed.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 15, 2019, 12:18:09 AM
Laine is off to Switzerland to train with a team. Seems like it may be a while before his contract is signed.

But whatever the Jets will come out flying!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 15, 2019, 02:27:24 PM
The Jet's have a very young D right now. Lot's of ? marks. Mark S. and Wheels, not on the same line right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 18, 2019, 11:00:22 AM
From Bob MacKenzie:

Dustin Byfuglien, currently on personal leave from WPG, is believed to be using the time to ponder his NHL future. I?m not saying Byfuglien is retiring; I?m not saying he?s coming back to play. Only that he?s contemplating his options and there?s no timetable for a decision.


I?ve been thinking it was this or the health of a family member. If his heart isn?t into hockey anymore then maybe it?s better for the team. However, how scary thin/experienced would our D be...Yikes! Wishing him the best.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2019, 11:34:22 AM
Way too much drama right now. Laine holding out. Connor holding out. Now this Byfuglien sitch? Man, this sucks.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 18, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
Fair summary of the situation...

https://deadspin.com/the-jets-nightmare-offseason-keeps-getting-worse-1838212585/amp?__twitter_impression=true (https://deadspin.com/the-jets-nightmare-offseason-keeps-getting-worse-1838212585/amp?__twitter_impression=true)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on September 18, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
I think the team will be fine.  Maurice is like O'Shea, and can get good work out of next man up.

Nice thing about Buff retiring?  Frees up enough space to sign Connor and Laine.  And then trade for Ristolainen... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2019, 06:00:40 PM
I think the team will be fine.  Maurice is like O'Shea, and can get good work out of next man up.

Nice thing about Buff retiring?  Frees up enough space to sign Connor and Laine.  And then trade for Ristolainen... 

Stick to football, man. There is so much wrong with this comment.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2019, 06:43:34 PM
Maybe there is a case to be made with how Laine is being used: https://www.tsn.ca/has-laine-been-unfairly-deployed-by-the-jets-1.1367609 (https://www.tsn.ca/has-laine-been-unfairly-deployed-by-the-jets-1.1367609)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 18, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
Maybe there is a case to be made with how Laine is being used: https://www.tsn.ca/has-laine-been-unfairly-deployed-by-the-jets-1.1367609 (https://www.tsn.ca/has-laine-been-unfairly-deployed-by-the-jets-1.1367609)


100% there is a case for it...Why is Bryan Little our second best centre on this team??

Laine speaks his mind - has always been that way, Jets knew it going into this relationship.  The coach believes he has some growth to do before "getting the keys" to the top line and I don't disagree - he needs to play faster and not get out of position so often - can he get better playing with an NHL third line talent like Little?  not sure - maybe he needs to fly with the best to get faster and more opportunities...

I have no hate for Bryan Little but we need a better centre IMO for the second line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2019, 07:54:58 PM
100% there is a case for it...Why is Bryan Little our second best centre on this team??

I have no hate for Bryan Little but we need a better centre IMO for the second line.

My guess is Little is 2C because nobody else has shown enough to take his spot. I'd imagine he remains 2C for the foreseeable future. Unless a player like Rosolovic is ready to take that next step.

I'm with you: no hate for Little and I'm sure that's the case with Laine, too. He just wants to play with the best players and I can't fault him for that.

Patrik Laine's agent Mike Liut was on Sportsnet's Starting Lineup today. He indicated that Patrik Laine reached out to Bryan Little immediately regarding comments in Finnish news. Said 29 & 18 are "more than fine".


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 18, 2019, 09:31:41 PM
Fair summary of the situation...

https://deadspin.com/the-jets-nightmare-offseason-keeps-getting-worse-1838212585/amp?__twitter_impression=true (https://deadspin.com/the-jets-nightmare-offseason-keeps-getting-worse-1838212585/amp?__twitter_impression=true)

More panic and overreaction...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 18, 2019, 11:34:09 PM
I would be surprised to see Buff walk away from 14M. I would think that if he was thinking about walking away from the game, he would have discussed this with the Jet's a few months ago. IF he was thinking retirement, it would leave us a short on D.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on September 19, 2019, 12:03:13 AM
More panic and overreaction...

I don't really see a whole lot of overreaction, tbh. We can paint things in the most positive light possible, but there are many of our best players from last season who are not on the ice for us right now. It's not good news.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 19, 2019, 12:33:50 AM
I don't really see a whole lot of overreaction, tbh. We can paint things in the most positive light possible, but there are many of our best players from last season who are not on the ice for us right now. It's not good news.

The article specifically says ?hit the panic button? twice; Laine?s time in WPG might be measured in days; harping on the dramatic Finnish article and implying that there will be a rift between players...Honestly I think Buff will be back and our two young wingers will be anxious to start playing and will sign their new contracts. It?s articles like these that get fans worked up. No doubt there are concerns for this season, especially on defense. I think the team may squeak into playoffs but will likely have an early exit again. However, I hate articles like this as well as those from local media that seem to have the sole purpose of creating drama.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 19, 2019, 02:08:40 AM
More panic and overreaction...

You realize if Byfuglien doesn't decide to play hockey anymore, the Jets will have lost the entire right side of their blue line...? That's beyond significant.

While the article does get a panicky regarding some unknowns, it's not necessarily far from the truth, namely with how depleted the back end is right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 19, 2019, 02:15:14 AM
I would be surprised to see Buff walk away from 14M. I would think that if he was thinking about walking away from the game, he would have discussed this with the Jet's a few months ago. IF he was thinking retirement, it would leave us a short on D.
ya but Buff is a bit of a flake. He can be very unpredictable. If this is thinking about walking who is to say he brings that up at anytime. This timing could not be worse and he is a jerk if he was contemplating this during the summer and his no show at summer da beauty hockey league. First time he ditched his summer hockey ever so I think he has been contemplating this for a while. This display pisses me off.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on September 19, 2019, 02:16:23 AM
Our backend is blown up right now, with or without Buff. Trouba, Myers and charot are gone that?s some big skates to fill, 3 pairs, 4 if buff decides he?s had enough. It?s Hardly over reacting, our lineup is clearly taking in water at this point !!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 19, 2019, 02:17:13 AM
ya but Buff is a bit of a flake. He can be very unpredictable. If this is thinking about walking who is to say he brings that up at anytime. This timing could not be worse and he is a jerk if he was contemplating this during the summer and his no show at summer da beauty hockey league. First time he ditched his summer hockey ever so I think he has been contemplating this for a while. This display pisses me off.

He's not a jerk for putting his future ahead of his career. I doubt very much he's doing this to screw over the Jets and I can't imagine any of this is easy for him.

Try and remember this guy is a human being, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 19, 2019, 02:25:23 AM
You realize if Byfuglien doesn't decide to play hockey anymore, the Jets will have lost the entire right side of their blue line...? That's beyond significant.

While the article does get a panicky regarding some unknowns, it's not necessarily far from the truth, namely with how depleted the back end is right now.

Yes I do realize that and some people might argue that the loss of a couple of our D players might make the team better. I mean how often have Buff, Trouba, Myers and Chiarot been the whipping boys of fans and media? My point I am trying to make though is how the article lists everything that has happened as if it will cripple and tear apart the team. I don?t believe that will be the case so hence me calling it an overreaction. But, as usual, everyone has their own opinion and that?s fine.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 19, 2019, 02:27:22 AM
ya but Buff is a bit of a flake. He can be very unpredictable. If this is thinking about walking who is to say he brings that up at anytime. This timing could not be worse and he is a jerk if he was contemplating this during the summer and his no show at summer da beauty hockey league. First time he ditched his summer hockey ever so I think he has been contemplating this for a while. This display pisses me off.

Buff would be a huge loss but life is more important than one?s job. I hold no ill will towards Buff if he chooses to hang up his skates. Fans thinking otherwise should be ashamed at the selfishness.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 19, 2019, 04:43:10 AM
Yes I do realize that and some people might argue that the loss of a couple of our D players might make the team better. I mean how often have Buff, Trouba, Myers and Chiarot been the whipping boys of fans and media? My point I am trying to make though is how the article lists everything that has happened as if it will cripple and tear apart the team. I don?t believe that will be the case so hence me calling it an overreaction. But, as usual, everyone has their own opinion and that?s fine.

That?s obviously totally fine if that?s your opinion, but I?m not sure how you can add up all of these losses and potential losses and not think that it?s a gigantic step back? I mean, I?m trying to rationalize that the team won?t be a wreck because I tend to be an optimist but the facts point to a negative outcome. If there was some sort of succession plan in place that we could at least put faith in I could get on board with that but as it stands we are left with  ??? to replace our once deep talent pool.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 19, 2019, 12:01:53 PM
Yes I do realize that and some people might argue that the loss of a couple of our D players might make the team better. I mean how often have Buff, Trouba, Myers and Chiarot been the whipping boys of fans and media? My point I am trying to make though is how the article lists everything that has happened as if it will cripple and tear apart the team. I don?t believe that will be the case so hence me calling it an overreaction. But, as usual, everyone has their own opinion and that?s fine.

There is absolutely no argument to be made that losing half their blue line makes the Jets a better team. If there is, I'm all ears. Rationally speaking, however, I just don't see it. A team can't incur such losses and not take a hit.

And just because some of the media and some fans dump on those players doesn't make that criticism justified, much less accurate. I would argue the majority of fans, especially the casual/bandwagon ones, don't have a clue. Winnipeg also has its share of ignorant media types who crap on almost everything this city represents from a sports standpoint. Those three players being "whipping boys" for sports writers or lousy fans is not remotely relevant when one looks at the situation objectively. All three contributed to the success of this team during their respective tenures with it.

Losing Trouba and Myers are extremely significant losses, especially Trouba. He and Morrissey were a very good pairing who hadn't even hit their collective stride yet. Who replaces either him or Myers in the now? Pionk and Poolman aren't there yet and who knows if they'll ever be. If Byfuglien calls it a career, that's now the entire right side of the defense from the last several seasons just gone. That will impact this team going into the 2019-20 season, to its detriment. Chiarot also left, and while that's a much less significant loss, it's still a loss. He provided depth and grit on the back end. Factor in all of that, and consider the step back the team took last season from an overall defensive standpoint, and the end result - at least on paper - does not flatter this team. Unless the forward groups magically rediscover how to play the two-way game they did in 2017-18... I don't see that happening, though. (believe me when I say I hope to hell I'm wrong)

This adversity now facing the Jets puts them in a precarious position. Sure, adversity can build character and I'm sure we'll see some young players progress on account of this. But it's not unreasonable to say this team is in a pretty bad position. Adversity can also have negative effects. This organization went from a contender to a competitor... to this. I don't know what this is, but making the post-season is going to be a tall order looking at the roster right now.

We'll see what management has up its sleeve and what, if anything, can be done to address the losses. It's going to be a very interesting season for the Jets, to say the least.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 19, 2019, 04:44:47 PM
I was very impressed with Chibison last night. Big man, 6-4 227, that can skate, plays the body, and made some very nice passes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 19, 2019, 08:17:48 PM
I was very impressed with Chibison last night. Big man, 6-4 277, that can skate, plays the body, and made some very nice passes.
Quite agree that Chibisov has definite mature pro qualities as seen in the 2 games plus 3 times I have seen him at TC., It is very good timing for him with Laine & Connor out.

After watching the games & 3 days at TC ....... I will guess that Poolman & Morrissey will be the "new" shut down pairing.
If Buff does, sadly, retire, I will hazard to say Stanley, who really does battle hard, will be in the 7 Dman mix out of camp with the above 2 shutdown men ......
as well as Pionk, Beaulieu, Kulikov & Niku ..... Not a lot of Grade A experience..

With Tanev gone, Mark Letestu, with a 52.2 career NHL Faceoff winning % in 560 games just might be able to make the team despite being 34 yrs old

BTW: the team speed is truly amazing throughout the on ice candidates.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 19, 2019, 08:29:50 PM
Yes, our D will be smaller this year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 19, 2019, 10:12:01 PM
I was very impressed with Chibison last night. Big man, 6-4 227, that can skate, plays the body, and made some very nice passes.

I agree. Wondering who he would fit best with on a line. Lowry and Copp?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 20, 2019, 02:21:33 AM
From Jeff Hamilton:

Sitting in a Montreal pub and I'm sent some pictures of Dustin Byfuglien who was apparently on the Earls St. V patio and apparently told these girls he was playing this year. Yeah, it's come to this. Do with it what you will.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 20, 2019, 04:31:06 PM
I think i will wait for Dustin to announce his plans, not a few young ladies looking for there 15 seconds.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on September 22, 2019, 01:47:39 AM
Well, he's currently suspended (which is apparently just a paperwork thing), but it means that we still don't know what he intends for this season and are preparing for the worst.

So, still no good news.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 22, 2019, 11:04:17 AM
Well, he's currently suspended (which is apparently just a paperwork thing), but it means that we still don't know what he intends for this season and are preparing for the worst.

So, still no good news.

Yep, gotta keep cap flexibility open.

Between Bombers, Jets and Panthers, I think I'm taking a break from sports.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 23, 2019, 02:25:38 AM
I thought Luoto, and Heinola, both played very well tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 23, 2019, 02:45:31 AM
I thought Luoto, and Heinola, both played very well tonight.
Agreed whole heartedly ......... also Appleton & Poolman ...... while I think Stanley made some mistakes & the outcome of his decisions had some flaws


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 23, 2019, 11:39:30 AM
With zero depth on D, I?m hoping Niku, Stanley and Heinola can really step up and take charge of the opportunity.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 23, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
I don't think Stanley has done anything to stand out yet.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 23, 2019, 07:55:31 PM
I don't think Stanley has done anything to stand out yet.

I agree. He looks awkward out there at times.

I like Heinola's game so far.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 24, 2019, 03:37:57 PM
Wishful thinking on my part.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 26, 2019, 02:01:24 AM
Soooooo the Jets trimmed the roster down to 18 forwards, 11 Dmen & 3 goalies in camp. Today I took in the noon hour workout & a few of the boys were missing.
Not on the ice were Comrie, Stanley, Niku & Morrissey, as well as Lowry, Gustafsson & Little.

As all Dmen wear red jerseys, I don't specifically remember the pairings, if there were any on a consistent basis, however, I did feel Poolman, Bitetto & Heinola stood out.
Forwards wear a variety of line matching colors so they are much easier to be aware of who is with whom, most times.

Ehlers, Wheels & Scheif had a great day together, in all drills.  Perrault on nice feeds from Roslovic scored a couple of times early with Copp centering.
Appleton was really impressive. Chibisov & Vesalainen, together, each scored with impressive shots & Luoto, with nice skills, showed some real heads up form. 

Have to say though ........ TC would look much better with Connor & Buff out there.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 26, 2019, 12:37:10 PM
Have to say though ........ TC would look much better with Connor & Buff out there.

What, no Laine?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 26, 2019, 04:32:22 PM
As long as PL29 knows what the market now is for him. 7-8 Mil over 3 years. I think he will be here. If he wants Mitch money, he is probably trade bait. A lot is riding on what Buff is going to do.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 26, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
without Connor, Laine or Buff or comparable players in return the Jets are automatically in the bottom 1/2 of the NHL with the players they have lost in the offseason...very good AHL team though...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 26, 2019, 05:48:28 PM
Agree, Chevy will have to work some magic.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 27, 2019, 03:12:57 AM
With our current D, Helle will have to play better then he did tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 27, 2019, 12:29:37 PM
With our current D, Helle will have to play better then he did tonight.

The team's goaltending is going to be in tough this season. If last night is any indication, anyway. Getting outshot 15-3 in the final 20 is no way to win a game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 27, 2019, 04:30:21 PM
Whew!!  Jets needed to get this done - now get Connor done and we have a shot at being competitive


According to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger, the Winnipeg Jets have reached a two-year, $13.5 million contract with restricted free agent Patrik Laine.

Laine, who is skating with Switzerland's SC Bern as he awaits a new contract, posted 30 goals and 50 points in 82 games last season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 27, 2019, 04:32:42 PM
Huge news! Nice bridge deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 27, 2019, 04:57:57 PM
Favorable AAV at first blush.
Makes him tradeable, saves Chevy some Cap $$ presently, Seattle will be chomping to land him ......... all my off the cuff mish mash.

Is Connors going to slide in at AAV of 6.5 for a 3 year  ??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 27, 2019, 05:04:45 PM
Stanley & Schilling are cut & we are down to 9 Dmen. Niku a LH shot, might still be dinged. The team has Pionk, Poolman & Nogier as their RH shots.
Big battle on the left with Morrissey & Kulikov the incumbents, with Bitetto, Heinola, Beaulieu trying to be a starter.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on September 27, 2019, 06:40:41 PM
Favorable AAV at first blush.
Makes him tradeable, saves Chevy some Cap $$ presently, Seattle will be chomping to land him ......... all my off the cuff mish mash.

Is Connors going to slide in at AAV of 6.5 for a 3 year  ??

I think I heard it reported that the Jets and Connor both agree on a 4-year deal, but are apart on the money.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 27, 2019, 06:51:32 PM
Slightly concerning Vesalainen had a poor camp and can't crack the roster yet given our current situation.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 27, 2019, 09:31:53 PM
Great deal in my opinion! In two years we will have Buff?s salary gone (assuming he plays out his final two years) as well as Kulikov plus a higher salary cap. If Laine continues to do this well or even better, there should be more room to re-sign him after the bridge deal. Nice work Chevy! Next up, Connor.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 28, 2019, 06:01:57 PM
Great deal in my opinion! In two years we will have Buff?s salary gone (assuming he plays out his final two years) as well as Kulikov plus a higher salary cap. If Laine continues to do this well or even better, there should be more room to re-sign him after the bridge deal. Nice work Chevy! Next up, Connor.
Kulikov will be a UFA after this season ....... while Perrault will be off the books after the 2020-21 season.
 ........... Seattle will be involved in their special build a team Draft & the Jets will be needing to make some big decisions, no doubt.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 28, 2019, 11:22:16 PM
Jets and Connor closing in on a 7 year deal according to multiple sources on Twitter. Great news!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 28, 2019, 11:33:14 PM
Reporting over 7 mill. Probably a clean 50M deal is my guess.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 28, 2019, 11:46:44 PM
Kyle Connor deal once finalized - which it isn?t yet - will be for between $7 M and $7.25 M aav x seven years. Paperwork still being worked on.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on September 28, 2019, 11:48:43 PM
Reporting over 7 mill. Probably a clean 50M deal is my guess.

Bingo! You called it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 29, 2019, 12:03:00 AM
Yahoooooooooo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 29, 2019, 01:04:51 AM
Good now Buff make up your mind man. Because if you?re out we need to use that cap space to get a D man in a trade!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 29, 2019, 03:02:16 AM
Great news re: Connor. That's a nice payday for him.

Sounds like it's a $50M contract, so the AAV should be around $7.14M.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 29, 2019, 03:14:16 AM
Good now Buff make up your mind man. Because if you?re out we need to use that cap space to get a D man in a trade!
Quite agree ...... or a top 6 Center


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 29, 2019, 11:01:39 AM
I love the Connor deal, both the term and cap hit. It's obviously great to have him here for 7 more years, but to get a perennial 30+ goal scorer (upon which he can improve and likely get to 40) who is playing an improving two way game for that kind of money...great job. It will seem like an absolute steal in the back end of that contract, too, when 7M won't seem all that high for a top line player.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 29, 2019, 07:38:44 PM
Chevy had a very good week. I agree, it's now time for Buff to make up his mind.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on September 30, 2019, 03:45:10 PM
What do you think the lines should be for the Jet's this year?



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on September 30, 2019, 07:25:14 PM
Where Buffy at?

Thought he would be rolling in any day now that camp is over....maybe he will skip the road trip and then show up


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 01, 2019, 03:45:00 PM
The Eric Comrie experiment is officially over. Picked up off waivers by the Yotes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Stretch on October 01, 2019, 03:55:28 PM
The Eric Comrie experiment is officially over. Picked up off waivers by the Yotes.

Good. Now he's their problem.

(not a fan of his in case you couldn't tell)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 01, 2019, 09:59:37 PM
Good. Now he's their problem.

(not a fan of his in case you couldn't tell)

He always seemed to play nervous when called up to the Jets. For the Moose he was great but Berdin is very intriguing to me. Hopefully our goalie depth isn?t tested though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 02, 2019, 06:26:50 AM
So apparently ........... Copp gets his crack at being a top 6 center as he is between Laine & Connor to start on Thursday.
...... Perrault gets to ride with Lowry & Bourque, as no doubt, a relentless checking buzz saw trio
.......... Poor Roslovic, is on the 4th line to start, with Appleton & at center Letestu .......  wondering if he will be packaged up & out to maybe his home state of Columbus.

Puck drop is not far off for the new Jet season ........... GO JETS GO


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 04, 2019, 12:47:13 AM
Defence and goaltending are what we thought it would be....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 04, 2019, 12:57:12 AM
We will be Ok   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 04, 2019, 01:08:35 AM
First game against an improved Ranger team, and the Jets were in it most of the game. We?ve got the offence and the defense will come around with the new guys. It?s game one but Helly has to get back to his form from two seasons ago. Otherwise Brossoit needs to get more starts. I love the speed and chemistry of the Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler line! They will do a lot of damage against teams this season. Tomorrow will be another tough opponent.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 04, 2019, 02:30:43 AM
Jet's had 47 shots, our D is a problem at this time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2019, 04:22:10 AM
Team defense took a slide last season and it reflected in the team's possession stats, defensive zone play, and netminding. Expect that slide to continue with the losses on the blue line and if last season's overall trend remains. Tonight's loss sort of highlighted most of what ails this team.

Gotta be better tomorrow (later today, rather). I would imagine Brossoit gets the nod in NJ.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 04, 2019, 08:53:23 AM
That was a very entertaining game. I'd say the difference was goaltending. Helly gave up 2 bad goals; Lundqvist none. If that type of differential continues, we won't win more than we lose. It's just the first game though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2019, 12:29:28 PM
Gotta say that I was not disappointed with the loss because the effort was there and we were in it for the entire time. Play like that every night and you'll win a lot of those games.

Maybe it's just that I've lowered my expectations. But what do you think would happen? We are without Buff, Trouba, Myers, and Chiarot and have a late first round 18 year old in the D lineup. Offense did their job by scoring 4 goals, and defense did whatever they could do with what they have.

Losses like this, where the players play, are ultimately on Chevy for not shoring up on the massive losses to the D.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: bluengold204 on October 04, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
I see Laine hasn't improved since last season.  Still looks like a pylon out there in our defensive zone.  Ehlers with a some nice passes, he had a great game.  Our D is in shambles it's gonna be a long season for Hellebuyck i think.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 04, 2019, 03:35:31 PM
When the Rangers used their speed on stretch passes or just cutting in from the outside our Dmen looked clumsy, as a whole.
However, there are 81 games left & I sure hope we get our 99 points.  Truly wish the games are as entertaining as last night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 04, 2019, 05:02:06 PM
We will be Ok  

I guess that depends on your definition.

I don't know if I'm expecting play offs this year. Our D is not going to improve by much and will likely decline as we experience an injury or two.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 04, 2019, 09:30:59 PM
Trouba had a very good game. His O is something we will miss.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 05, 2019, 12:43:59 AM
Boys from both teams looked gassed in OT

How wheeler didn't score is beyond me. 

Shootout time!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 05, 2019, 01:14:49 AM
I?ll be first to admit I called game over after the devils went up 3-0 and went on to watch other things. I followed the game with occasional checks on twitter and tuned back in at 4-4. What a comeback! Should be a good bonding moment for them. Certainly was ugly in the first two periods and they have much to work on. Still, nice to see them pull out a tough win!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 05, 2019, 01:15:48 AM
what a crazy, fast moving game ........... SUPER HAPPY for Wheels to score the Winner ...... cuz the opportunity that he didn't cash in on would have haunted him

Ehlers has been wonderful to start the year ....... real nice goaltending by Brossoit ...... defensively we can be scary


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 05, 2019, 04:21:27 AM
I picked up the game when it was 4-2, and I'm glad I did. One player who has really
impressed me is 18-yr old Ville Heinola. Our backup goalie played great too!

I predict we will make the playoffs this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 05, 2019, 01:50:47 PM
I watched the first two periods, with the Jets about to go into the intermission down 4-0. Kulikov socring with 10 seconds left in the period excited me slightly but it was too little too late. Tuned to something else, and then half an hour later checked the score on my phone and saw 4-3...tuned back in and watched that gloriously entertaining tie and finish.

Only regret was Wheeler not being able to close it out in regulation with not one but two posts on an amazing opportunity with seconds to go! Round puck on round post and it bounces off...twice!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 06, 2019, 03:11:39 PM
Brossoit gets the start tonight! While he wasn?t lights out on Friday, he did make it possible for the Jets to come back and win with some timely saves in the third. Helly needs to get his game back and maybe this lights a fire for him. Get paid the big bucks, then play like it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 06, 2019, 06:31:57 PM
This is what happens when goalies don't play much in the pre-season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 07, 2019, 03:18:55 AM
Nice to see PL score tonight. However the team look like there ready to come. Losing JM tonight was big.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 07, 2019, 05:46:56 PM
we had opportunities & Greis was just to sharp tonight ......... conversely our GA average continues to be extremely poor & the team as a whole needs vast D improvement.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 08, 2019, 12:42:35 AM
Bet we end up alot better then we see now.

They will go thru some **** games ...  no doubt.

But i bet these younger guys come around and buff will be back.


We still have a very young core and vets that will be around for awhile.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 08, 2019, 01:37:04 AM
It's early but I still expect this team to struggle more often than not this season. Too many losses on the back end and now way too much inexperience back there.

Getting Byfuglien back would be a huge upgrade on the back end.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 09, 2019, 02:33:51 AM
The Jet's played a good game with a bunch of young men on D. Nice win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 09, 2019, 02:34:51 AM
so the Jets play without Morrissey & Kulikov & dress a very short of experience blueliners but with HellB starring ...... only 1 goal given up  YAHOOS !!!
Also as an added BONUS ...... 3 of the dmen, Pionk, Heinola with his 1st NHL goal & Poolman, score 3 of the 4 Jet goals ...... another big YAHOOS !!!

HellB really was the rock steady STAR goalie tonight ...... the Jets will certainly need a lot of that going forward.

Lowry had 10 Hits tonight while ex-Jet Tanev had 9 for the Pens


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 09, 2019, 03:30:40 AM
Impressive road win tonight. Nice to finish off that road trip at .500!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 09, 2019, 02:25:52 PM
So, let Buff sit until 15 games left in the season, then bring him back with fresh legs and just enough time to get his wind and hands back for the playoff run...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 09, 2019, 04:05:29 PM
If Buff sits all season he will be 300lbs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 09, 2019, 04:08:34 PM
If Buff sits all season he will be 300lbs.

He already looked it in those candid shots at Earls or wherever.

My guess is that he wasn't super into training over the off season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 09, 2019, 04:30:44 PM
Pretty sure his ankle injury has prevented an aggressive training regimen...

If he decides he is not done with hockey, he can easily get back into top shape, 15 games still gets him almost $2million... worth some time in the gym...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 09, 2019, 05:50:52 PM
Pretty sure his ankle injury has prevented an aggressive training regimen...

If he decides he is not done with hockey, he can easily get back into top shape, 15 games still gets him almost $2million... worth some time in the gym...

Money is obviously not a motivating factor for him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 09, 2019, 07:33:29 PM
He never easily gets back into shape. And his ankle has been fine for a while.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 10, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
He never easily gets back into shape. And his ankle has been fine for a while.

Where do you get this information? It's ridiculous enough you accuse him of getting fat, but then make comments like these. Poor form.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 10, 2019, 12:48:57 PM
He has had problems every year getting back into game shape. But who are you, his Mommy. And let's not talk about poor form.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 10, 2019, 04:04:11 PM
Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Copp-Ehlers
Bourque-Lowry-Letestu
Perreault-Roslovic-Appleton

Morrissey-Pionk
Kulikov-Bitetto
Heinola-Poolman

Hellebuyck
Brossoit


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 10, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
Are Morrissey and Kulikov back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 10, 2019, 05:28:28 PM
Are Morrissey and Kulikov back.


Looks like it


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 10, 2019, 05:34:20 PM
Should be a good game tonight, getting there not so much. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 11, 2019, 02:00:04 AM
Jet's top line with 8 points tonight. Nice night for PL. Helly also had another good game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 11, 2019, 02:18:58 AM
Better then we think.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 11, 2019, 01:04:02 PM
Better then we think.

you start saying #1D....and I am going to wonder if you and another poster are actually the same person...both fans of Pearl Jam...hmmmmm


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 11, 2019, 01:50:10 PM
I felt bad for VH14 last night. That should have been a penalty. However it will be a learning experience for him. I changed it for you.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 11, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
I felt bad for BH14 last night. That should have been a penalty. However it will be a learning experience for him.

BH14?

Billy Heinola? lmao


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 11, 2019, 02:38:12 PM
BH14?

Billy Heinola? lmao

i actually thought it was Billie too for a while.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 11, 2019, 02:42:36 PM
So, Laine tied for the lead in scoring with 10 points.  Who would have thought he'd become an elite set up man?

And the new sleeve tattoo... a Lion, eh?   Niiice...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 11, 2019, 04:25:28 PM
Laine is off to an incredible start. Nice win to open up the home schedule last night, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 11, 2019, 05:50:46 PM
100 point season for Laine? lol. To dream...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 11, 2019, 06:20:50 PM
Niku sent back to the Moose ....... just in time for their season Home opener.
That's 2 games in a row where the other team out shoots/chances us & HellB needed to be truly rock steady
Apparently vs the Pens ..... the Pens had 28 chances in the 3rd period alone vs just 2 by the Jets and those 2 were recorded as shots on.
Last night ...... the Jets lost the Give Away battle 14 - 5 as well ........ the Wild recorded a 65.17 Shot Attempt % vs the Jets just under 35%.

Early in the season but though 2 lines are fabolous with the puck, we may be still that defensive zone accident waiting to happen  
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 11, 2019, 06:21:39 PM
100 point season for Laine? lol. To dream...

On pace for 160 pts...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on October 11, 2019, 09:49:01 PM
What?s the status of Buff?? Has he officially retired or just been suspended for not reporting??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 12, 2019, 05:16:07 AM
I would be happy if PL29 had 80-100 points this year, but was more consistent.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 12, 2019, 01:56:33 PM
What?s the status of Buff?? Has he officially retired or just been suspended for not reporting??

He's been suspended while we await his decision.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 12, 2019, 01:58:17 PM
Something I've been debating with my co-workers is what to do with Laine if he knocks it out of the park this season. I know multiple people who want to trade him. The better he does, the better the trade.

Do teams win with guys being paid these 12+ million salaries?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 12, 2019, 04:12:44 PM
Something I've been debating with my co-workers is what to do with Laine if he knocks it out of the park this season. I know multiple people who want to trade him. The better he does, the better the trade.

Do teams win with guys being paid these 12+ million salaries?

If he gets into superstar level production and the team goes deep in the playoffs you find a way to keep him - oilers are keeping mc David, crazy to trade away a legit star in the NHL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 13, 2019, 01:10:00 PM
If he gets into superstar level production and the team goes deep in the playoffs you find a way to keep him - oilers are keeping mc David, crazy to trade away a legit star in the NHL.

Yeah, but are the Oilers going to contend for a Stanley Cup with that albatross on their payroll? Can the leafs contend with their nut ball salaries?

I don't know the answer - and I definitely want that superstar on our roster - I'm just wondering out loud if it's good for the team, or more detrimental to success than positive.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 14, 2019, 01:59:34 AM
Had trouble following the ricocheting puck until the Pens were raising their arms .......... Big UGH !!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 14, 2019, 02:37:46 AM
Jets looked slow and tired.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on October 14, 2019, 01:39:15 PM
Bad goaltending. At least 4 should have been stopped and didn't see any big saves from Brossoit. Morrissey kept getting caught.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 14, 2019, 02:05:09 PM
Morrissey, I agree, seemed to be caught often looking out of sorts, plus that bad bounce at the blue line & the Pen player blowing by him, sure compounded his bad day. He ended a terrible-4 for the game.
Felt Roslovic was our best player & Lowry seemed rejuvenated when the two were put together in the 3rd, as part of coaches blender show.   Scheif, Wheels, Connor & Ehlers were very weak defensively
Overall a real team effort at not having their act together


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 14, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
they are not in mid-season shape yet and have a played a lot of games so far...looked out of it and beat from the start...flush it and move on


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 15, 2019, 04:37:59 PM
David Gustafsson gets to make his debut as center for Appleton & Bourque to start the game.    Letestu is being kept out of the lineup, HOOOOOOORAY !!
Ville still does not draw back into the D lineup.   Lowry centers Roslovic & Perrault.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 15, 2019, 10:36:11 PM
Not sure why Heinola is out again. The kid needs to play. Either play him on the Jets with some growing pains or send him down to the Moose. Sitting him isn?t accomplishing much. Happy for Gustafsson getting the call for tonight?s game. Also, there?s rumblings that things are looking more positive for a Buff return! I sure hope it happens! Imagine the reaction from the crowd he would get if he returns- might  blow the roof off!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 16, 2019, 01:44:50 AM
This just in and hot off the press....

JETS SINK

The D suck, Helle is not good, the forwards to not bother coming into our zone, and PoMo is just pain terrible at pulling levers.

Ans Sawyer is in about the same level as friggin Rod Black as a broadcaster. Nauseating to listen to.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 16, 2019, 02:05:49 AM
It was hard to watch. Just not very good right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 16, 2019, 02:52:37 AM
This just in and hot off the press....

JETS SINK

The D suck, Helle is not good, the forwards to not bother coming into our zone, and PoMo is just pain terrible at pulling levers.

Ans Sawyer is in about the same level as friggin Rod Black as a broadcaster. Nauseating to listen to.


Well ur a wee bit mad.


I actually like how this is going.

.....  Young guys having their ***** handed to them.

They gotta figure this out.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 16, 2019, 03:11:05 AM

Well ur a wee bit mad.


I actually like how this is going.

.....  Young guys having their ***** handed to them.

They gotta figure this out.
no I am not mad if fact I am in the process of caring less actually. To like how this is going is strange unless you want to tank for Lafie or Byfield.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 16, 2019, 11:55:01 AM

Well ur a wee bit mad.


I actually like how this is going.

.....  Young guys having their ***** handed to them.

They gotta figure this out.

Depends where you think we are.

If we are rebuilding and have a lot of young guys because we dumped vets because we were underachieving and need to start over (see: 2011-2016 Winnipeg Trashers), then absolutely we need to develop and play young guys through the tough times.

Or are we past that narrative and should be expected to be much more successful?

That said, I don't think we were atrocious last night, as we did a good job creating lots of chances. I don't feel walked over after that game. However, we need to close on those chances and we absolutely did not. I thought the Coyote goals were weak.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 16, 2019, 12:04:12 PM
Depends where you think we are.

If we are rebuilding and have a lot of young guys because we dumped vets because we were underachieving and need to start over (see: 2011-2016 Winnipeg Trashers), then absolutely we need to develop and play young guys through the tough times.

Or are we past that narrative and should be expected to be much more successful?

That said, I don't think we were atrocious last night, as we did a good job creating lots of chances. I don't feel walked over after that game. However, we need to close on those chances and we absolutely did not. I thought the Coyote goals were weak.

Exactly just playing the "young guys need to develop card" year after year is just as bad as repeating that the Bombers don't have issues on Defence. 

Eventually fans may stop paying top NHL prices for a team with AHL quality defensive lines.  We have some really good players on this team who are not "young guys" anymore.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 16, 2019, 01:28:26 PM
Not sure why Heinola is out again. The kid needs to play. Either play him on the Jets with some growing pains or send him down to the Moose. Sitting him isn?t accomplishing much. Happy for Gustafsson getting the call for tonight?s game. Also, there?s rumblings that things are looking more positive for a Buff return! I sure hope it happens! Imagine the reaction from the crowd he would get if he returns- might  blow the roof off!

10 games and they burn a year of ELC.  Tough to do that, and then send him down... especially in today's world of cap concerns.

My take is that if 33 was in uniform, they send Heinola down.  Until he makes a decision, there area a lot of dominoes in place, including Heinola. 

If they play Heinola 10 games, burn his ELC year, and then Buff comes back...  so in the meantime, he stays witht he club, practices with them, and gets game action in spots, until they HAVE to make the decision..


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 16, 2019, 10:09:37 PM
It has been report on T&S today that the Jet's did not sell out last night. Interesting.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 16, 2019, 11:21:37 PM
It has been report on T&S today that the Jet's did not sell out last night. Interesting.

Crowds are dead as well...compared to a few years ago...I think Toronto makes more noise and certainly many in the States are far louder and lively than what we have here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 17, 2019, 04:29:31 PM
Young Ville the Kid draws back into the lineup vs the Isles, with Bitetto out  .......... apparently Little will sit out another
Not calling the line a failure after 8 games, but ..... Copp at a -2, has but a goal, 2 assists & only 8 shots as center for Ehlers a sad -5 & Connor a bad -6.
On the plus side for those 3 ..... Connor leads the team with 33 shots while Ehlers has taken the 2nd most at 27 & Copp wins a slim majority of face offs.
Ehlers & Connor certainly don't feed Copp so if Little draws back in next game ...... I can see him sitting at center instead of Copp ..... unless the 3 have a big game tonight.

HellB needs to be the 1st Star tonight   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2019, 01:23:23 AM
Exactly just playing the "young guys need to develop card" year after year is just as bad as repeating that the Bombers don't have issues on Defence. 

Eventually fans may stop paying top NHL prices for a team with AHL quality defensive lines.  We have some really good players on this team who are not "young guys" anymore.




You would have a point if i was talking about the same players year after year and the same mistakes.

In todays game we will always need to bring in young guys.

IMO and from whats said teams like TO and ED have kinda blowen their load on a few players and have about 3-4 years to get a Cup or have to blow it up.

We on the other hand have more less been bringing up young guys and we are seeing them grow into their game and playing together on a pretty good budget plan.

I think what happened to our D this year is not something that was expected or ever happens to a team inless they have to blow it up and i dont think thats what we were doing....  jus happened that teams were willing to pay lots more for guys like Myers and BC.

I like how our core is pretty much young with good contracts and we have 18 year olds that are in learning and even under some pressure they dont look horrible.

Its super early in the year and i think we played 7 in 10 days or something with travel and came out ok.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 18, 2019, 02:29:03 AM
HellB was very good but ....... the Isles goalie was the STAR.
Our star skaters were in the minus column ...... Scheif, Wheels, Laine & Morrissey all at  -2.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2019, 03:47:00 AM
HellB was very good but ....... the Isles goalie was the STAR.
Our star skaters were in the minus column ...... Scheif, Wheels, Laine & Morrissey all at  -2.


I really dont think it matters.

Our checking lines did there job.

Our top lines need to score forsure .... But again we had really young guys that held there own and wernt beat on.

We played the better game ....  just need to put the puck in .

We dont look out of place we just need to find the net.

Im not at all worried about this team.....  They are young n hard working ....  The puck will start to go in for these guys. Way to much skill for it not too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: drahgon on October 18, 2019, 12:28:17 PM
Crowds are dead as well...compared to a few years ago...I think Toronto makes more noise and certainly many in the States are far louder and lively than what we have here.

Wow you got that right, was at the Arizona game on Tuesday and it was absolutely dead.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 20, 2019, 11:59:55 PM
It has been report on T&S today that the Jet's did not sell out last night. Interesting.

I have to wonder if that snowstorm played a factor. That was unprecedented and did a significant amount of damage.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 21, 2019, 12:54:26 AM
Amazing win tonight. Most exciting 0-0 game I've ever seen.

3 on 3 OT is the best thing to happen to hockey in ages.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 21, 2019, 01:03:19 AM
Great game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 21, 2019, 01:33:20 AM
Very nice win tonight. I think this is how the Jets have to play if they want to win more games: good defensive zone, not forcing offense, and playing tight. Hellebuyck had a hell of a game, too.

And a big congrats to Coach Maurice on his 700th win!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 21, 2019, 03:25:41 AM
That's is quite the number of wins, 700, to achieve ................ pretty decent career PM & congrats & getting it after a stupendous shootout victory

HellB was the big star ........ thought Little did okay, Roslovic was great & Connor & Laine took care of business with HellB to get the 2 points for the Standings.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on October 21, 2019, 11:28:48 AM
Connor played good in OT. he went around McDavid   and he couldn't catch connor on one play.  jets played good  .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 21, 2019, 06:39:32 PM
Maurice is the seventh coach in NHL history to get to 700 wins. Pretty impressive achievement, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 21, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
I think the Jet's played there most complete game of the year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 21, 2019, 11:51:17 PM
I think the Jet's played there most complete game of the year.
I you count only 5 shots in the first complete?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 22, 2019, 01:07:04 AM
I think the Jet's played there most complete game of the year.

Maybe their best home game. I still think their win in Pittsburgh was much more complete.

It was nice having Little back last night. Getting Copp back with Lowry on that shutdown line seemed to pay off.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 22, 2019, 01:08:26 AM
I you count only 5 shots in the first complete?
Actually it was ONLY a meager 2 ....... a shot by Little & a shot by Ehlers 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 22, 2019, 05:34:31 PM
Come on boy's let make it 2 in a row.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 22, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Sure hope this game doesn't have the King's goalie being one of the 3 Stars at the end of it.   Is Brossoit in the net tonight ?
Poolman out with some kinda injury ...... so Bitetto, who is now healthy, draws into his lineup spot.
...... I'm going to say a lot of good fortune bounces the Jets way tonight & a 7-2 victory happens.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 23, 2019, 02:30:53 AM
The Jet's need to get going a little earlier.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 23, 2019, 03:29:18 AM
If HellB wasn't on his game it may have ended about 7-2 Kings ............ alas it was close but a loss is a loss 
...... is that something like 7 goals for the Jets in the past 5 games ..... Pathetic !!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 23, 2019, 12:31:23 PM
If HellB wasn't on his game it may have ended about 7-2 Kings ............ alas it was close but a loss is a loss 
...... is that something like 7 goals for the Jets in the past 5 games ..... Pathetic !!!

If Helle can keep this up, it should be a good year.

Our scoring should snap back at some point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 23, 2019, 12:40:18 PM
Come on boy's let make it 2 in a row.

So much for that. What a stinker. That first period was just awful.

Maurice seems to be struggling to find the right lines again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 24, 2019, 08:51:09 PM
Anyone headed to Regina.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 25, 2019, 07:59:39 PM
Anyone headed to Regina.

Had no idea it was night game until today.  Will be watching on TV

Let's hope the jets can actually score a goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 27, 2019, 02:51:25 AM
What an abysmal penalty-killing record. Worst in the league. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see
why as everyone is just standing still in front of Helly, collapsing too far in. How frustrating! Try a different strategy for goodness sakes!     


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 27, 2019, 03:13:27 AM
Atmosphere looks great in Regina.  Once again the jets are looking slow and a bit unoraganized...can't kill penalties and now Lowry gives  just a terrible cheap shot and the jets will be on the penalty kill again.

The way they are playing not sure they can overcome a two goal deficit. 
Have the players tuned out Maurice? Is he still an effective coach?

Next 10 games will tell us


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 27, 2019, 03:42:41 AM
Another power play opportunity late in the third...need to score and tie this up!!


Morrissey with the blast !!! Tie game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 27, 2019, 04:03:28 AM
Jets survive a slow start to win in OT...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 27, 2019, 04:09:48 AM
2 points


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 27, 2019, 12:51:06 PM
I only watched on TV but I'd say the event was a huge success. Mosaic looked great and hosting the Jets and Flames at their midpoint on Canada 1 was very fitting. I'm sure Regina/Sask appreciated the great press of the NHL and the attention it brought to them and their facility and great hockey culture/history. The powder snow was a lovely touch. They could stand to do this exact event again in 10/15 years again. I was pretty down on outdoor games because they're overdone/uneventful but despite the game being super boing up until the last 5 mins of regulation, the spectacle of outdoor hockey in Canada is really something special. This is especially true with all the new CFL stadiums that have popped up. Maybe Leafs vs Sens at Tim Hortons Field next time? Or Calgary gets their crap together and builds a new barn for the Stamps, and we get a battle of Alberta Heritage Classic?

This is also positive press for the CFL. Would be awesome in the future to get the attention of down south by the Jets hosting the Wild or Blackhawks at IGF!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on October 27, 2019, 02:29:21 PM
The PP needs to be better. Like the color guy was saying last night we are to predictable.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 27, 2019, 04:39:46 PM
Special teams coach must be shaking his head, thinking that things look good but ,,,,,,,,, what just happened. Puck gets shot wide on PP & goes in on PK
Lowry just may get a suspension for that neck crunching hit. 
Goalies were very good. Was extremely pleased when Morrissey hit the twine & later Little finished on a really bright move by Connor before his goal mouth pass
......... loved the VICTORY.   Roslovic has been a real competitor these past 1/2 dozen games ....... he desperately needs to finish on his chances though.

Ever wonder how much better we would be with 2 quality Dmen inserted ........ and I don't mean Heinola or injured Niku, who I believe are better with the Moose this year.
Bitetto, played just under 13 minutes last night, while Dahlstrom just over 9. They are just not good enough.
 Meanwhile poor Gustaffson only plays 3 minutes & 17 seconds. Why bother keeping this young 19 year old with the club? Surely this talent needs regular playing time elsewhere.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: trapper on October 27, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
I only watched on TV but I'd say the event was a huge success. Mosaic looked great and hosting the Jets and Flames at their midpoint on Canada 1 was very fitting. I'm sure Regina/Sask appreciated the great press of the NHL and the attention it brought to them and their facility and great hockey culture/history. The powder snow was a lovely touch. They could stand to do this exact event again in 10/15 years again. I was pretty down on outdoor games because they're overdone/uneventful but despite the game being super boing up until the last 5 mins of regulation, the spectacle of outdoor hockey in Canada is really something special. This is especially true with all the new CFL stadiums that have popped up. Maybe Leafs vs Sens at Tim Hortons Field next time? Or Calgary gets their crap together and builds a new barn for the Stamps, and we get a battle of Alberta Heritage Classic?

This is also positive press for the CFL. Would be awesome in the future to get the attention of down south by the Jets hosting the Wild or Blackhawks at IGF!

I agree it was a success.  Very good publicity....good attendance.  And those snow flakes....can you believe that 24 hours before this game it was plus 17 and sunny?????  In fact at 11pm on Friday, 24 hours before the end of this hockey game it was still plus 11.  Crazy.

I think they should do it again....but with Grey Cup next year....I think it will have to be another 7 or so years....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2019, 08:44:04 PM
I agree it was a success.  Very good publicity....good attendance.  And those snow flakes....can you believe that 24 hours before this game it was plus 17 and sunny?????  In fact at 11pm on Friday, 24 hours before the end of this hockey game it was still plus 11.  Crazy.

I think they should do it again....but with Grey Cup next year....I think it will have to be another 7 or so years....
the Grey Cup HC thing would never happen. Is their enough hotel rooms to cover both events at the same time? Among other massive questions.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 27, 2019, 10:19:00 PM
the Grey Cup HC thing would never happen. Is their enough hotel rooms to cover both events at the same time? Among other massive questions.

I think trapper just means you can't squeeze in too many events too close too each other. Only so much disposable income to go around. Joe Blow sports fan will have a hard time justifying the $250 tickets each for both a Grey Cup and special outdoor game, plus buying merch, beer, food, patronizing local establishments (i.e. the "economic boost" sought by governments that incentivize them try to attract these sorts of events) and if you live anywhere but down the street from the venue, travel and accommodation.

Keep the market thirsty for special events every once in a while to blow your load on..


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 28, 2019, 12:07:57 AM
I think trapper just means you can't squeeze in too many events too close too each other. Only so much disposable income to go around. Joe Blow sports fan will have a hard time justifying the $250 tickets each for both a Grey Cup and special outdoor game, plus buying merch, beer, food, patronizing local establishments (i.e. the "economic boost" sought by governments that incentivize them try to attract these sorts of events) and if you live anywhere but down the street from the venue, travel and accommodation.

Keep the market thirsty for special events every once in a while to blow your load on..



This


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: upp on October 28, 2019, 12:13:28 PM
Was at the game and the atmosphere was great.  Pretty much an equal amount of Flames and Winnipeg fans.  In fact, before the game the PA announcer asked who was cheering for the Flames, then the Jets, both had loud cheers, then when he asked who was cheering for the Riders, there was a pronounced boo.  Definitely A LOT of out-of-towners!

Fun fact... the largest Jets home crowd is now 33, 518... in Regina. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 28, 2019, 01:33:09 PM
Smart idea, night game.  No sun to deal with, temp guaranteed to be good for safe ice...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 28, 2019, 03:40:25 PM
Would be awesome in the future to get the attention of down south by the Jets hosting the Wild or Blackhawks at IGF!

TNSE said the week after the 2016 HC it wants another outdoor game at IGF. So, I'm sure it'll happen. A Stadium Series vs. a Central Division rival seems like a no brainer to me.

Nice win on Saturday, too. That Little OT winner was beautiful with a great dish from Connor. And those jerseys... Just wonderful.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 28, 2019, 07:19:38 PM
Lowry gets two game suspension for his cheap hit at the end of the period....repeat offender

Laine left practice after colliding with Sbisa



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 28, 2019, 09:02:11 PM
Logan Shaw was called up from Moose before Lowry suspension announcement ........ good move in 2 ways I believe.
Shaw has been doing well with Moose since arriving from the trade with the Ducks last year. His experience should allow Gustafsson to go to Moose after Lowry returns.
Hadn't heard about Laine ....... hope nothing serious.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on October 28, 2019, 09:10:47 PM
What a bad call against Lowry.  Seen so many worse hits never get called but the announcers jumped on the Jets right away. Glad Winnipeg won, Im sure they weren't happy in the sportsnet booth. When Little scored the winner.. Just like that no call for Calgary high sticking. an obvious call, surprised they didn't call it. Even the replay showed a good angle I guess they didn't look at both angles .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 28, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
Saw that Laine is already listed on the NHL Injury list for the Jets. It's unusual that it was this quick, unless they know he can't go Tuesday

Counted present Roster, including Shaw who's listed as active ........ only 11 healthy Forwards for tomorrow unless Laine gets into lineup as the 12th.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Colton on October 28, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
What a bad call against Lowry.  Seen so many worse hits never get called but the announcers jumped on the Jets right away. Glad Winnipeg won, Im sure they weren't happy in the sportsnet booth. When Little scored the winner.. Just like that no call for Calgary high sticking. an obvious call, surprised they didn't call it. Even the replay showed a good angle I guess they didn't look at both angles .

Lol yeah it's the announcers fault that dirty hit was penalized.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2019, 07:22:27 PM
Looks like Laine is unlikely to play tonight, even though his ailment doesn't sound serious: https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-forward-patrik-laine-doubtful-for-game-against-anaheim-ducks-1.1389278 (https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-forward-patrik-laine-doubtful-for-game-against-anaheim-ducks-1.1389278)

Way to go, Sbisa. :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 29, 2019, 08:58:46 PM
Sbisa will have to get a hat trick tonight to offset his misstep    ;D  ...... course that would tie him with Laine's season offering to date.   NO POINT made on that note.

We lose Lowry, a consummate forchecker,  for the next 2 games ...... it struck me, so I just checked, the man has ZERO points so far


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2019, 12:18:42 PM
Well, that was a real stinker last night. Blegh.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 30, 2019, 01:16:45 PM
Well I guess if you wanted to ever know how a majority AHL defence would look in the NHL there is your answer.

Worried about Wheeler - I think the dude is wound so tight he is just going to snap one day.   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 30, 2019, 02:28:03 PM
Well I guess if you wanted to ever know how a majority AHL defence would look in the NHL there is your answer.

Worried about Wheeler - I think the dude is wound so tight he is just going to snap one day.   

Maybe in a good way...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 30, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
Well I guess if you wanted to ever know how a majority AHL defence would look in the NHL there is your answer.

 
Interesting in the plus/minus stats ...... Poolman at a horrible -5, Morrissey a terrible -4, while the other 5 dmen dressed were at even or a Plus
Kulikov +2, Bitetto & Pionk were both at +1, while Dahlstrom & the new man Sbisa ended at an even +/-


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2019, 03:46:31 PM
Maybe in a good way...

This. And I can't say I blame him. He went from being on a legit contender for the last two seasons to a team that will be lucky to eek into the playoffs in a wildcard spot. That's gotta sting, especially for someone as competitive as he is.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 31, 2019, 01:47:35 AM
So Buffy had surgery:

As just reported ono @NBCSN, Dustin Byfuglien recently underwent ankle surgery to take care of unresolved issues from the high-ankle sprain he suffered late last season. What that means for his future and whether it could, in time, lead to his return to WPG remains to be seen.

That was from bob McKenzie


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 31, 2019, 03:44:22 AM
Not substantiated but ....... perhaps he never passed the TC physical & in agreement with the team, got the, unpaid, personal leave of absence.

Believe we all do miss this guy in Jet colors.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 31, 2019, 12:31:49 PM
Not substantiated but ....... perhaps he never passed the TC physical & in agreement with the team, got the, unpaid, personal leave of absence.

Believe we all do miss this guy in Jet colors.

I suspect this as well, although it's based on nothing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 31, 2019, 06:02:11 PM
Jets sent Ville H. to the Moose today ........ should be great for him, as he will get plenty of ice time with the Moose to hone his skills
The kid is very talented & if he can stay injury free, he should have a really bright future with the Jets


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 31, 2019, 06:22:56 PM
Jets sent Ville H. to the Moose today ........ should be great for him, as he will get plenty of ice time with the Moose to hone his skills
The kid is very talented & if he can stay injury free, he should have a really bright future with the Jets

I really like it when the Jets use the rookie window to get the kids a few games in the bigs before sending them down, and not burning a rookie deal year. We did it with Scheif and look how he turned out. Give them a taste and it makes them work harder to get to be in the show all year long.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 31, 2019, 07:46:42 PM
just heard that Laine will not play Friday & that ...... Little is a game time decision or a day to day (can't remember which)
Also sadly for him, Letestu is going to be inactive for some 6 months min due to a heart issue.

Hmmmmmm ....... who is being called up or picked up on the Waiver wire ...... or is Chevy going to spring a trade


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 31, 2019, 07:48:16 PM
just heard that Laine will not play Friday & that ...... Little is a game time decision or a day to day (can't remember which)
Also sadly for him, Letestu is going to be inactive for some 6 months min due to a heart issue.

Hmmmmmm ....... who is being called up or picked up on the Waiver wire ...... or is Chevy going to spring a trade

This is getting a little ridiculous, eh?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 01, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
hobo hockey tonight


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 02, 2019, 04:17:55 AM
Absolute robbery by Hellebuyck!! The Jets had no business winning that game, but I?ll take it!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 02, 2019, 04:33:00 AM
Buck Buck = beast.

2 points on the road.

Kane goes home to cry.

Take it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on November 03, 2019, 04:04:03 AM
Another good win for the Jets. AL17 taking on Reaves mite have been the turning point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2019, 01:18:55 PM
Nice little weekend for the Jets and a great way to wrap up the road trip. Connor's OT winner on Saturday was beautiful.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 04, 2019, 02:26:32 PM
The weekend was weird. We won two games back to back, on the road, a time zone over. Both were pretty greasy wins.

...but wins nonetheless. Those 4 points were delicious. Now sneak back to Wpg before anyone investigates!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on November 04, 2019, 05:41:53 PM
Greasy wins??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 04, 2019, 08:13:28 PM
Greasy wins??

I don't find facing 53 shots to 19, nor going down 3-1 in the span of 3:39 and then doing nothing for 40 minutes and winning in OT particularly clean.

We were outplayed and came out with the W both times.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on November 04, 2019, 08:28:06 PM
I agree we are giving up way to many shots. However we did have good goaltending, and we are finding a why to win late in games on the road. Not pretty, but until we figure out our D our goalie's may have to be outstanding a little more often.

I like 81, 55, 26, back together again. What's it 8 games and no goals for 29?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 04, 2019, 08:57:22 PM
I agree we are giving up way to many shots. However we did have good goaltending, and we are finding a why to win late in games on the road. Not pretty, but until we figure out our D our goalie's may have to be outstanding a little more often.

I like 81, 55, 26, back together again. What's it 8 games and no goals for 29?

Oh there were certainly bright spots and those will be needed if this team is going to have any chance this year. It's just that we aren't able to put together full team wins and play sounds hockey for 60 minutes. Not even the best teams can expect that sort of performance standard every night, but they do it often while we will have to rely many times on these (I'll say it again) greasy ways to win here and there.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 05, 2019, 06:43:53 AM
Understand it?s likely that Beaulieu will finally be healthy enough to play vs the Devils ? YAHOOS
Really hope he proves to be extremely helpful for our defence in many games to come.
Sbisa in limited action, so far 3 games, has added some okay toughness in our end & has 12 hits to date.
Pionk has been a real nice surprise Plus player, is a puck mover & doles out hits aplenty
Kulikov & Bitetto also, in mho, have been very reliable in what they offer & for the most part have been a tough, Plus factor to play against. Meanwhile Morrissey at a sad -12 in 13 games, I think, has struggled in handling a shutdown role. Being partnered with Poolman, at a -9, has had many weak moments & has not given as steady a defensive result as expected, yet. Also those 2 dish out, virtually, the least amount of body blows to the opposition when fighting for possession in our end. Morrissey has to become that positive plus player for this team to gain traction
My guess is that Beaulieu may get teamed with Pionk, Kulikov with Morrissey, while Sbisa gets partnered with Bitetto. Odd man out for awhile is Poolman


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Stretch on November 05, 2019, 11:04:54 AM
My guess is that Beaulieu may get teamed with Pionk, Kulikov with Morrissey, while Sbisa gets partnered with Bitetto. Odd man out for awhile is Poolman


Poolman's injured, isn't he?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 05, 2019, 01:32:31 PM
Poolman's injured, isn't he?

He is. It doesn't sound like he even practiced yesterday. I'm sure he'd be in the lineup if he were available, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 05, 2019, 08:16:50 PM
He is. It doesn't sound like he even practiced yesterday. I'm sure he'd be in the lineup if he were available, though.

No worries, our prospect pipeline is clogged with NHL-capable Dmen who can fill in in a pinch


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on November 05, 2019, 08:39:38 PM
I am hoping that PL29 will bang in a couple of goals tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 05, 2019, 09:57:02 PM
I am hoping that PL29 will bang in a couple of goals tonight.

And/or 5


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 06, 2019, 12:24:09 PM
Gotta say that I held my breath when Little went down. Coming off a concussion and then taking a puck to the head is not a step to maintaining good health. Hopefully no damage internally

Well Laine took 5 shots but zippo for goals ..... again.  Still do like his game despite minimal scoring
HellB was terrific .... again.  Pionk definitely is a bright spot & had another good game
Beaulieu had a few moments that made him look a bit rusty but I think he? Be a decent Dman

Chances, we had some pretty good chances but nooooo finish is killing this team


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 06, 2019, 01:03:40 PM
I really don't get the line blender stuff. It never seems to address the issue of not scoring and only makes the forwards look out of sorts.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 06, 2019, 02:25:35 PM
I really don't get the line blender stuff. It never seems to address the issue of not scoring and only makes the forwards look out of sorts.

You're probably right but I'm ok with experimentation until we get the right combo such that guys hit their stride. In-game it doesn't seem to be useful, but I think if Maurice explicitly went into games with the different combinations and let them figure it out for an entire game or two at a time, it would either let them come together or expose where the weakness is an move on to the next correction strategy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 06, 2019, 04:48:17 PM
You're probably right but I'm ok with experimentation until we get the right combo such that guys hit their stride. In-game it doesn't seem to be useful, but I think if Maurice explicitly went into games with the different combinations and let them figure it out for an entire game or two at a time, it would either let them come together or expose where the weakness is an move on to the next correction strategy.

I just don't know how you ever establish any sense of consistency by mixing up lines when the team isn't scoring. It seems counterproductive, IMO.

It sound like Little was stitched up last night following that puck to the head. Hopefully, he'll be back on the ice soon. That was horrible.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 06, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
I just don't know how you ever establish any sense of consistency by mixing up lines when the team isn't scoring. It seems counterproductive, IMO.

It sound like Little was stitched up last night following that puck to the head. Hopefully, he'll be back on the ice soon. That was horrible.


I think maybe we were being too consistent to a fault previously when we refused to mix up the lines when no one was producing. I agree this ought not be done willy nilly, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on November 06, 2019, 06:16:09 PM
The Jets owned the OT. To bad we couldn't score. Doesn't look good for BL18, there saying this injury is worse than a concussion. 30 Stiches at St. B. transferred to HSC where he remains for tests and observation.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 20, 2019, 01:53:10 PM
Five straight road wins! Always nice to beat the Predators, too. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on November 20, 2019, 01:57:09 PM
Five straight road wins! Always nice to beat the Predators, too. ;D



Was a good game.....  really fast


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 20, 2019, 01:58:40 PM
Five straight road wins! Always nice to beat the Predators, too. ;D

Just rolling.

Now beat Dallas a Columbus and win the Grey Cup Sunday and I can die a happy man.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 20, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
Just rolling.

Now beat Dallas a Columbus and win the Grey Cup Sunday and I can die a happy man.

That'd seriously be the best weekend in ages. :)

And how about that Connor Hellebuyck? Man, he's playing well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 20, 2019, 03:09:30 PM
That'd seriously be the best weekend in ages. :)

And how about that Connor Hellebuyck? Man, he's playing well.

Can I admit I was worried about Helle last year?

We was a Vezina candidate when our team was good. Took a slump our team was still good and had a glorious window of opportunity last year. So, when our team took a step back this year, I thought he would nose dive into Pavelec territory.

But he is putting the team on his back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 20, 2019, 05:03:46 PM
Helle is bailing this team out every night. We can score some goals but have no D and it's the 35 shots per night Helle show.

Tremendous bounce-back. If he sustains this level of performance, we are hanging on to a divisional playoff seed.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 21, 2019, 07:38:27 PM
How long is the Buff grievance going to take ?  Chevy is not likely going to have this guy in our dressing room again, so he needs clarity on Cap Space.
........ as I still believe we need a LH Dman to compliment Morrissey, Poolman & Pionk.

HellB has been utterly steadfast.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 22, 2019, 01:54:31 AM
3 goals in 5:00 has the Jets in a hole in Dallas


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 22, 2019, 02:49:21 AM
3 goals in 5:00 has the Jets in a hole in Dallas

They have dug out...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 22, 2019, 02:54:02 AM
They have dug out...

And there it is...tie game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 22, 2019, 02:54:50 AM
And there it is...tie game

Ugh


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 22, 2019, 03:13:47 AM
Brutal! We look like we are dead, work our way back and tie it up...for a grand total of 4 seconds before we go down one with little time left. And the obvious offside on the earlier Stars goal.

****!!! Almost wish we would have just rolled over and died after it went to 3-0 and I didn't have to ride the emotional roller coaster.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 22, 2019, 03:33:43 AM
Tough ending after the battle back .......... however, gotta say that the Stars certainly were an aggressive, hustling bunch, with Dmen that sure pinched often.

HellB had some bad luck that spoiled his terrific game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on November 22, 2019, 04:06:44 AM
We will loose games like this.  Its what all teams do.

Its better then being the Leafs   LOL

On to the next......


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2019, 04:38:35 AM
A couple of greasy goals decided this game tonight, which is unfortunate. Ah, well... On to the next.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 22, 2019, 07:47:08 PM
Shout out to the folks wearing Bomber gear behind the Jets bench btw.

Gave me goosebumps of happiness.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 23, 2019, 02:27:17 AM
It would great to see lots of Blue and Gold for the CBJ game Saturday night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 24, 2019, 08:00:12 PM
WOW ...... did the Jets ever get the right deflection at no better time.   
Copp doesn't usually score on clean chances but he shot & got the lucky bounce last night ......... as well I felt his effort throughout was top notch
Brossoit really had a terrific game & then left with the mysterious cramps or whatever ....... then HellB saved the Jets destiny with a couple of dandy stops

Hope Morrissey & Beaulieu are able to recuperate from their injuries quickly ..........  especially Morrissey   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 28, 2019, 03:41:55 PM
The score, 5-1, does not reflect how many chances the Sharks had, not including the 6 PP opportunities .......... HellB had to be GREAT again.

Scheif, Laine & Connors were real dangerous tonight ........ also felt Bitetto, led the team with 5 hits on the Sharks,  did alright for being out of the lineup for awhile.
Congrats to Gustafson on his first NHL goal ........... however I am still at a loss as to why this very "green" player is not down with the Moose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 29, 2019, 12:33:59 AM
Hellebuyck has been tremendous. That top line was pretty deadly last night, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on November 30, 2019, 05:10:16 AM
Loosing another D, wow.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 30, 2019, 11:27:54 PM
Loosing another D, wow.

Niku time?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 30, 2019, 11:36:54 PM
Cameron Schilling called up to the Big Boys. Sadly he'll probably sit in the Press Box with Spacek, who since called up has sat out all games so far.
Though I don't know, I suspect Dahlstrom plays on D tonight for Kulikov.
Meanwhile Niku has been injured of late with the Moose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 01, 2019, 04:09:11 PM
Stinky first period in LA sinks the Jets. Not a bad game otherwise, though. Brossoit played well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 02, 2019, 01:50:37 AM
SCHEIF ALL ALONE WITH A SECOND TO GO ................ shoots into Campbell's body .......... no OT & no single point at least
Kudos to Brossoit ........ nice game with big saves.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 04, 2019, 02:46:18 AM
Helly mask may be the best ive ever seen.


Its wicked kool


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 04, 2019, 03:56:25 AM
Excellent win for the Jet's, nice night to celebrate the bombers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 04, 2019, 04:13:15 AM
What a great game tonight. The HC threads, a convincing win over a division rival, and celebrating the GC champs!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 04, 2019, 05:35:43 PM
What a great game tonight. The HC threads, a convincing win over a division rival, and celebrating the GC champs!

x1000


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 04, 2019, 08:03:04 PM
Could we be tested anymore on D. I think we loose a D a game. Really like 81, 55, 29, line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 05, 2019, 05:05:07 PM
Any news on Bryan Little?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 06, 2019, 03:32:21 AM
Terrible, the NHL needs to looking at the refs in the last 10 minutes of that game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 06, 2019, 03:46:43 AM
Terrible, the NHL needs to looking at the refs in the last 10 minutes of that game.


Yup


Great game from the Jets


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 06, 2019, 04:19:52 AM
Amazing 3rd. period.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2019, 04:04:48 PM
Terrible, the NHL needs to looking at the refs in the last 10 minutes of that game.

That was absolutely embarrassing. Some terrible calls across the board last night. Scheifele getting an extra minor was absurd.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 06, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
Amazing 3rd. period.

The last 10 minutes or so, culminating in the Scheifele goal, were just ridiculous.

Then the save Helle made it OT, shame we couldn't pull out the win but this was definitely a bonus point for us.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 06, 2019, 04:45:49 PM
I think there is a good chance we win that one in OT if it wasn't for the lame penalty called...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 06, 2019, 09:05:36 PM
One of the TSN hockey reporters was loosing it last night after the game. He thought that Pavelski should have received a penalty not Morrissey. The hook on KC81, really he nearly had his arm ripped off.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 09, 2019, 04:01:55 AM
Another good win for the Jets. MS55 is heating up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 09, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
really impressed with the continued stellar performance of HellB & the odds & ends Dmen who help cut down the big rebounds.

Apparently there is a good chance of Bourque & Appleton to be available for games this week.
Did Shore show enough to center those two ?  Does Logan Shaw move over to center those two ?   Luota is, for my money, will get waived prior to assignment to the Moose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 09, 2019, 06:12:59 PM
Just caught that Detroit has put Madison Bowey on waivers, which is part of their move him down to the AHL routine.

Suggestion for Chevy ........ grab this Rhand shot Dman who is 24 now & I would think has upside with Huddy
In just 22 of the teams 31 games played he is tied, with rookie Choloski, who has 5 PP points, as the 2nd Dman point producer with 8. Though none of Bowey"s points are on the PP. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Stretch on December 09, 2019, 06:47:18 PM
Suggestion for Chevy ........ grab this Rhand shot Dman who is 24 now & I would think has upside with Huddy

Plus he's a Winnipeg kid.  :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 10, 2019, 05:55:58 PM
caught that Appleton has been sent down to the Moose ........ conditioning for sure ........ will watch to see if he gets back up soon.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 11, 2019, 01:51:49 AM
Laine


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 11, 2019, 03:27:00 AM
Very nice goal, Laine showed some speed, and some great moves.

Sbisa, pionk, Lowry, and Copp, all had a very good game.

Brossitti, was rock solid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 12, 2019, 08:48:02 PM
20 wins would be excellent. Go Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 12, 2019, 08:52:13 PM
20 wins would be excellent. Go Jet's.

Helle can't be stopped!

Incoming shut out!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 12, 2019, 09:05:35 PM
Helle can't be stopped!

Incoming shut out!!!



That would be awesome


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2019, 12:09:07 AM
Trap game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2019, 12:42:55 AM
Helle can't be stopped!

Incoming shut out!!!

 :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2019, 12:50:35 AM
Comeback is on...keep Pionk off the ice and we can win


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 13, 2019, 01:46:38 AM
Comeback is on...keep Pionk off the ice and we can win


**** that.

Hes better then Trouba


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2019, 01:58:06 AM

**** that.

Hes better then Trouba

It was in reference to the puck bouncing off of him into our net...twice


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2019, 02:07:00 AM
Wow.  That is one of the the nicest empty netters you can see...

Jets fell into the trap..got a bit unlucky and lost to the worst team in the NHL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 13, 2019, 04:17:05 AM
Sheeeeeeeesh ........... a lotta of disappearing Jets tonight ........ 1290's Westwood & his analytical community loved this one.

Can't win them all but ......... to the lowly Wings ....... YIKES !!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 13, 2019, 12:04:13 PM
:D

I.....have regrets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 13, 2019, 12:43:33 PM
Wow.  That is one of the the nicest empty netters you can see...

Jets fell into the trap..got a bit unlucky and lost to the worst team in the NHL

A *bit*?!?!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 13, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
I saw someone mention that we have a woeful record against the 3 worst teams in the league... and that luckily, we won't be facing any of them come playoff time...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 13, 2019, 06:10:51 PM
I actually expected us to go 1-1 in this series. Hard to win both in a home-and-home. Doesn't matter who the opponent is.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2019, 06:31:30 PM
I actually expected us to go 1-1 in this series. Hard to win both in a home-and-home. Doesn't matter who the opponent is.

in most for sure...but Detroit??  ugh...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 13, 2019, 06:41:58 PM
Pionk had a tough night. He just could catch a break. The Ref interference goal, was garbage. Jet's also looked slow in parts of the game. They got outshot badly in the 1st. period. We also took to many penalties.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 15, 2019, 05:43:45 PM
Need a big win this afternoon. Flyers have been playing well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 16, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
A splendid nutting.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 16, 2019, 02:38:43 PM
Nasty hit on MP85. Great game for the Wheeler line which was dominate all night. Jet's team speed was to much for Philly. To many orange jersey's in the building. lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 16, 2019, 11:07:07 PM
Grab the Victory & skate away happy.  Jets took hardly any shots but finally the finish was truly there

Apparently Perrault is in concussion protocol ............. Farabee, the assailant, gets a 3 game suspension


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 16, 2019, 11:46:36 PM
Grab the Victory & skate away happy.  Jets took hardly any shots but finally the finish was truly there

Apparently Perrault is in concussion protocol ............. Farabee, the assailant, gets a 3 game suspension

As im happy      he should get more.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 17, 2019, 05:56:38 PM
Should be a good game tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 18, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
The Jet's D was just not good enough tonight. To many battles lost in our own end of the ice. I know Staal is a big man but he can't have two cracks at a puck in front of our net. PP looked good.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 18, 2019, 06:20:44 PM
Second period was a stinker for the home team. Skating in cement and lazy defensive zone play... The Canes made them pay for that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 19, 2019, 10:34:27 PM
Moose let in 10 goals last night ........ don't know if Berdin got hurt ......... Comrie claimed off waivers today ....... no doubt off to the Moose

Not sure what 2 of of Luoto, Appleton, Harkins are in tonight but I suspect Shaw & Bourque start with Lowry


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 19, 2019, 10:42:00 PM
I hope we play much better in our end of the ice tonight. Go Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 19, 2019, 10:42:08 PM
Moose let in 10 goals last night ........ don't know if Berdin got hurt ......... Comrie claimed off waivers today ....... no doubt off to the Moose

Not sure what 2 of of Luoto, Appleton, Harkins are in tonight but I suspect Shaw & Bourque start with Lowry



I dont like guys getting hurt but i do like we bring guys up n down the system.

Its good to let these guys have a bit of time with the big club to see what it takes and expected to get there.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 20, 2019, 01:08:35 PM
Couldn't buy a goal (well, one) in the Robin Lehner show.

Sucks losing 2 in a row (at home!). Need to get back to our winning ways and what better than vs division & geographic rival Minnesota.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 20, 2019, 01:58:44 PM
Lehner stole the show last night. And Kane was unstoppable.

The team's depth is really getting tested now. Hellebuyck can't keep bailing out this team; it's simply not sustainable.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 20, 2019, 02:46:47 PM
Yes, Lehner probably had the best game of his career.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 22, 2019, 01:31:04 AM
I really love this team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 22, 2019, 02:39:55 AM
I really love this team.


An *** kicking


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 22, 2019, 05:06:28 AM
I think the Jet's play better on the road. Nice night for the Laine, there line was all business tonight. Helly nice bounce back game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 23, 2019, 12:40:29 PM
Hoping for a similar performance to silent what's sure to be 30% of our rink filled with the most obnoxious fans in the league.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 23, 2019, 02:15:40 PM
Hoping for a similar performance to silent what's sure to be 30% of our rink filled with the most obnoxious fans in the league.

The Leafs are in town...?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 23, 2019, 03:45:07 PM
The Leafs are in town...?

In my experience, Habs fans are worse. I am biased because I have one particularly horrible one in my wife's family. If he was just a hardcore fan I would be ok, but he spends more time trashing the Jets and how they will be leaving town again in a few years and about how we have never won anything ever than he does cheering for the Habs.

So there is a special hate that flows through my veins for them.

Also, they seem to be louder and more annoying.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Stretch on December 23, 2019, 07:06:08 PM
The Leafs are in town...?

I'd call them a very close second.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 24, 2019, 02:59:29 AM
Time to play all our games on the road.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 24, 2019, 01:00:39 PM
Another stinker at home. I don't get this team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on December 24, 2019, 04:37:11 PM
LB30 lets in a few weak goals. D was out of position and scrambling most of the night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 24, 2019, 05:24:34 PM
Not a Hab fan but giving them Kudos for putting the Jets away with shear hustle

TIME Chevy to get together with the league & settle this Buff thing ........ we need a Top 4 Dman to move it up ice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 24, 2019, 05:31:55 PM
LB30 lets in a few weak goals. D was out of position and scrambling most of the night.

Broissoit had a rough outing but he wasn't getting much help up front.

When the Jets stop skating, they're vulnerable to some ugly mistakes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2019, 03:29:47 PM
Keep hearing lots of people complain about there being Hab fans in Winnipeg... "Don't they know its the prairies?"...

I get it.  There were Habs fans here before Jets 1.0, and between Jets 1.0 and Jets 2.0.  There are people who have moved here from elsewhere, where they may not have had a local team.  There are families that are Habs fans for generations.  Its to be expected in any barn in Canada. 

It just hurts that little when we lose to them, and we see the red jerseys in the phone booth...  Maybe a regulation that you can't wear opposing teams home jerseys in MTS?  Lessen the impact of the red sweaters by banning them and only allowing white ones?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 28, 2019, 01:14:15 PM
Some rough bounces for Helle/very lucky bounces for St Louis early on that made trying to catch up difficult. Able to do it though and muster a point. In 3 on 3, all it takes is one mistake and boom, Perron is on a breakaway. I was feeling like if that didn?t happen, we would have found a way to win it.

Let?s make it so this home-and-home ends with the Blues getting 2 points and the Jets getting 3.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 28, 2019, 09:39:44 PM
Lately the goal tending has been average & the Jets aren't getting the victories in the way they, of course we the fans as well, seemed to be accustomed to
The Jets  are a quite pedestrian 4 wins in their past 10 games. They picked up 2 OT losses during that 10 games while scoring 32 & letting in 32

The PK appears to be the continuing bad act. It needs to improve by a desperately greater margin of success in the balance off the season. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 28, 2019, 10:02:34 PM
This article makes some decent points and gives some stats worth considering. 


 https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5394750?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar&__twitter_impression=true (https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5394750?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar&__twitter_impression=true)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 30, 2019, 01:49:20 PM
Hellebuyck could only carry this team for so long. The warts are starting to show, namely on the defensive side of things. Injuries are only exacerbating the issues.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 30, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
Yeah, while the last 2 weeks have been tough to watch, this coming down to earth should have been expected. Right now the Jets are playing worse than they are (as stated above, Helle coming down to baseline + injuries) while November and the first half of December they were playing way better than they are.

Hoping they can find consistency because as we found out last year, the second half of the season can ruin you if you can't create any momentum. I don't expect this group to jump to first place but I would be pleased if we could fight our way and hold onto that third division playoff spot. Might be asking a lot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 30, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
Connor Hellebuyck and Mark Scheifele have been named to the 2020 All-Star game.

Congrats to them.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 30, 2019, 08:11:22 PM
Nice to see Scheifele get another ASG nod. No surprise at all about Hellebuyck, who's been one of the best netminders this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 01, 2020, 02:15:04 AM
Wow.  These announcers for the Jets are just terrible...like the Jets PK


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 01, 2020, 08:47:15 AM
Nice win for the Jets. Great way to end 2019.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 02, 2020, 08:09:55 PM
Well let's start 2020 off with a win at home. Would be nice to see us win more at home in 2020.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 02, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
Leafs are super hot right now. Let's cool them down as we heat up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 02, 2020, 08:51:01 PM
Beaulieu is out with an injury for awhile so Dahlstrom draws into tonight's lineup ......... Niku gets called up


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2020, 12:07:23 AM
Leafs are super hot right now. Let's cool them down as we heat up.

And shut up all those insufferable fans at the game tonight. Trying to get a "Go Leafs Go" chant... Gross.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 03, 2020, 12:15:20 AM
Ah Hellybuck you better play lights out after giving that one up....looking like a rookie out there...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2020, 12:34:34 AM
He took his eyes off playing the puck and paid for it.

Not like the boys in front are playing much better. That Sbisa giveaway was embarrassing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 03, 2020, 01:19:02 AM
Connor and Laine...two of Winnipeg's best...

Hellybuck 3 goals on 9 shots..


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 03, 2020, 01:21:34 AM
Sorry 4 goals on 10 shots ...lovely

5 on 16 now.  And that one was on Helly...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2020, 01:22:59 AM
High danger chances all ending up in the back of the net. Except for that first one, which I'm sure Hellebuyck should get an apple on. Yikes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 03, 2020, 02:32:40 AM
The 2nd period was the only bright spot. Put massive shots on net and it looked like the tap was finally turned on for Freddy...but alas, it ended up going the other way after that.

The Leaf fans in the building made me barf.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 03, 2020, 02:38:25 AM
Helly was not good tonight. Jet's continue to be terrible at home.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 04, 2020, 04:45:36 PM
Canada and the Jet's on at the same time today. The remote is going to get a workout.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 04, 2020, 07:41:49 PM
Nice win for Canada, now back to some serious ice fishing. Got to catch dinner. lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 04, 2020, 09:31:54 PM
This reffing needs to really be looked at.

The non call on JM44 was just so bad. This cant happen.

With the amount of Tec now....  this crap really needs to be cleaned up.


Im not just looking at this call but many that are just missed or not called. This should be a suspension without pay and a fine to the head Ref.

If 4 refs on the ice dont see this and its not looked at its a problem. Way to many eyes to see that this was a missed call that cost a team a point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on January 05, 2020, 09:31:05 PM
The goaltender interference on Helly in the overtime loss to the wild was absolutely ridiculous. PM challenged and lost!!! There clearly was a push by the minny player on helly inside the crease that affected hellys ability to play the puck and we it doesn?t get overturned?!? The game is called by morons and endorsed by their accomplicies !!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 06, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
Copp is back and Niku is in for tonight's game in Montreal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 06, 2020, 05:32:47 PM
Copp is back and Niku is in for tonight's game in Montreal.

Good news all around.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 06, 2020, 06:17:51 PM
Big game for the Jet's tonight. Right we are in 9th. Need to go on a little winning streak.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 06, 2020, 07:00:12 PM
Big game for the Jet's tonight. Right we are in 9th. Need to go on a little winning streak.

We are due. We have been on the wrong side of the W column for a stretch and now it's time to reverse that. A road trip far away will do us good.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 06, 2020, 08:39:26 PM
We are due. We have been on the wrong side of the W column for a stretch and now it's time to reverse that. A road trip far away will do us good.

Niku, the saviour, is here to lead us to a 10-game winning streak.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 06, 2020, 08:48:34 PM
Niku, the saviour, is here to lead us to a 10-game winning streak.

Oh thank the lord


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 06, 2020, 08:58:05 PM
It'll be nice to see Niku with the big club again. I'm sure he can't be any worse than some of the blue liners currently on the team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 06, 2020, 09:01:28 PM
It'll be nice to see Niku with the big club again. I'm sure he can't be any worse than some of the blue liners currently on the team.

In all seriousness, I'm happy to see him get a chance. With zero D depth, I can't believe he wasn't up all year. Then again, I heard rumours that he doesn't like playing in a system and Maurice keeps him with the Moose to learn how things work. Don't know how true that is.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 06, 2020, 09:14:30 PM
In all seriousness, I'm happy to see him get a chance. With zero D depth, I can't believe he wasn't up all year. Then again, I heard rumours that he doesn't like playing in a system and Maurice keeps him with the Moose to learn how things work. Don't know how true that is.

Maurice talked about it today, saying he was in a car accident to start the season, listed off three separate injuries he was dealing with and how much time he couldn't skate for, and now that everything has settled, he's up with the club.

If you're taking him at face value, it really just seems to be injury related.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 06, 2020, 09:25:25 PM
If you're taking him at face value, it really just seems to be injury related.

The rumour mill says he had an altercation with the coaching staff early in the season and was sent down to get his temper in check or something to that effect. I'm not sure how much stock I'd ever put in local hearsay surrounding this team, though.

I'm just glad he's in the lineup tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 06, 2020, 10:43:15 PM
Has there been any rumours on Buff?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 07, 2020, 03:00:54 AM
Nice win tonight in Montreal. Great to have Copp back in the lineup. His GWG was a beauty.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 07, 2020, 03:11:25 AM
This is a game we really needed. Chiarot is looking very good with Montreal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 07, 2020, 03:35:14 AM
Great win. And if the Habs had to score, I'm glad they were both from Chiarot. Good hustle by Winnipeg boy Dale Weiss as well. Agreed that this win was needed. Now 1-1-1 in 2020 and hopefully have some confidence and momentum.

So, who starts in Toronto and who starts in Boston?

I would start Helle in TO and Brossoit in Beantown. Toronto is more beatable IMO so we should put our best nut forward for that game and then hopefully get some magic the night after, although it's a longer shot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 07, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
Sounds like Kulikov is close to returning. This would be a nice boost to our D.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 07, 2020, 09:28:04 PM
Niku commented that he was frustrated with not being able to get into a rhythm last night due to shifts being infrequent.
Sadly I am not & never have been much of a Sami fan ....... 7th round selection who maybe a Toby Enstrom of the future but right now ....... needs to prove a lot.

My hope was always that Chevy use him in a trade package. Now that we have another lightweight in Heinola, showing promise, Niku for me is even more expendable. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2020, 11:39:53 PM
Niku commented that he was frustrated with not being able to get into a rhythm last night due to shifts being infrequent.
Sadly I am not & never have been much of a Sami fan ....... 7th round selection who maybe a Toby Enstrom of the future but right now ....... needs to prove a lot.

My hope was always that Chevy use him in a trade package. Now that we have another lightweight in Heinola, showing promise, Niku for me is even more expendable. 



Disagree big time.    Not sure what you mean in this.

The Fins we have are a good size and fast moving.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 08, 2020, 01:47:09 AM
Quite agree with fast moving ...... as both Niku & Heinola are adept, skilled & quick on their edges.

However ....... Sami, at 23, is listed at 6ft 1" but just 175 lbs. ....... I'd say he is not equipped, nor does he use a style to muscle many off the puck
Meanwhile our other potential upcomer Heinola, at such a tender 18, is just 5ft 11" & 180 lbs.
Both of course should get bulked up more with their coming years to help survive along the boards.

Truly hope I am very wrong in Niku & he is successful in our team colors


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 08, 2020, 12:42:51 PM
Quite agree with fast moving ...... as both Niku & Heinola are adept, skilled & quick on their edges.

However ....... Sami, at 23, is listed at 6ft 1" but just 175 lbs. ....... I'd say he is not equipped, nor does he use a style to muscle many off the puck
Meanwhile our other potential upcomer Heinola, at such a tender 18, is just 5ft 11" & 180 lbs.
Both of course should get bulked up more with their coming years to help survive along the boards.

Truly hope I am very wrong in Niku & he is successful in our team colors

I wouldn't read too much into 5 pounds. Sure he's a tweener we are building our roster on speed. You can add some size to a lighter frame but it's much harder to add speed to a naturally large frame.

I think it's a matter of getting them the experience in the NHL, but they need to prove they won't be a liability out there first. Heinola seems to be a sure thing in a year or so and the fact Niku got into the lineup last game gave me a confidence boost after wondering what the heck was going on with him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Colton on January 08, 2020, 02:59:09 PM
Quite agree with fast moving ...... as both Niku & Heinola are adept, skilled & quick on their edges.

However ....... Sami, at 23, is listed at 6ft 1" but just 175 lbs. ....... I'd say he is not equipped, nor does he use a style to muscle many off the puck
Meanwhile our other potential upcomer Heinola, at such a tender 18, is just 5ft 11" & 180 lbs.
Both of course should get bulked up more with their coming years to help survive along the boards.

Truly hope I am very wrong in Niku & he is successful in our team colors

I'd move on from him with all of his public comments about trade requests/KHL offers/complaining about ice time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 08, 2020, 03:35:08 PM
I'd move on from him with all of his public comments about trade requests/KHL offers/complaining about ice time.

 I am by no means saying this guy is the next all-star but probably a bit too quick to cast any judgement so severe as ditching him yet...Fans are up in arms about him not getting a shot with this freesami business but I certainly trust the coaches in how they are handling him.

Maturity level might be a bit low with this one but that can improve with some time and coaching.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 08, 2020, 04:46:22 PM
Another big game for us tonight. Should be a good game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 08, 2020, 06:38:18 PM
If we will be able to exact revenge on the much-maligned Habs AND Leafs, I will be VERY happy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 09, 2020, 02:03:07 AM
What a joke...maybe try a bit harder to score on an open net...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 09, 2020, 02:42:42 AM
A little sloppy at the end, but in the end the right team won.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 09, 2020, 01:16:32 PM
I'm happy for the win but annoyed that we let it get to a shootout and gave those losers a point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 09, 2020, 02:10:26 PM
I'm happy for the win but annoyed that we let it get to a shootout and gave those losers a point.

"Annoyed" was putting it lightly for me...but glad we had an entertaining OT and got the two points.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 09, 2020, 03:05:43 PM
"Annoyed" was putting it lightly for me...but glad we had an entertaining OT and got the two points.

Maurice should have them practice shooting on a net with no goalie  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 09, 2020, 05:08:40 PM
KC81 was on his backhand and had a D-man cutting him off. Didn't look like he get much on the shot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 09, 2020, 06:36:04 PM
Amazing how many pick plays the Leafs get away with in games. Nice to see the Jets exact a bit of revenge last night courtesy of El Capitan.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 09, 2020, 08:52:33 PM
3rd. game in 4 nights. Do we have enough gas in the tank to win another game on the road tonight?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 09, 2020, 09:21:44 PM
Leafs tying the game up was on HellB ........ he's our MVP so far but, man oh man, he can't be letting mathews score from that distance
Exciting empty net misses, BOOOO, wonderful OT chances by the Jets & HOORAY ....... JETS Win, the Jets Win

Kulikov is in tonight ....... is it Bitetto or Niku out


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 10, 2020, 03:52:16 AM
So I do well in a Hockey Pool cuz I have Pastrnak but ............ I also have Scheif & Morrissey ....... but for a Jet win it just wasn't enough


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 10, 2020, 12:32:55 PM
Considering it was our 3rd game in four nights, on the road, against one of the top teams in the league, we really held our own. Lead for a lot of the game, and even when we weren't, we claws back to tie and/or re-take the lead. Scored 4 goals, which should normally be enough to at least net you a point, which is why I'm disappointed. Ah well, still a successful road trip.

Now back to the dreaded BellMTS Place!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 10, 2020, 01:06:32 PM
Giving up 2 goals in 33 seconds is a killer...tired? Lack of focus? Unlucky?

Great teams find a way to win those ones.  The home record is baffling but I see no real change on the horizon that is going to suddenly make the Jets more consistent - maybe Buffy returning?  Otherwise we will  probably finish the season out going up and down and squeak into the playoffs and hope Helly gets red hot.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 10, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
Giving up 2 goals in 33 seconds is a killer...tired? Lack of focus? Unlucky?

Great teams find a way to win those ones.  The home record is baffling but I see no real change on the horizon that is going to suddenly make the Jets more consistent - maybe Buffy returning?  Otherwise we will  probably finish the season out going up and down and squeak into the playoffs and hope Helly gets red hot.



I don't think we should have expected any different. I think our hotness in November was unsustainable and gave us the impression we were able to be a top division team. Looking at the roster to start the season, and today, we should know that would not be the case. Also hoping that we can find some consistency and try to hold onto that wild card spot.

FWIW, all the teams near the top are pretty close, save for STL. Go on a tear and we could be in second place by next week, or lose 3 in a row or so and be on the outside looking in. Such is life in the NHL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 10, 2020, 04:35:51 PM
Believe I heard this correctly on 1290 TSN this morning ........ Jets gave Boston 16 high danger scoring area chances while only getting 3 themselves.
Just looked it up & WOW ...... that is what the game stats said.     Brossoit really was quite decent in my opinion
Scheif does the impossible angle bank shot & the Jets scored on 2 of those 3 high area chances, while the Bruins scored on 4 of their 16 chances.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 10, 2020, 05:13:01 PM
A couple of bad calls by the refs, and it looked like we ran out of gas.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 10, 2020, 05:15:02 PM
Also, Boston is a very good team. We could have done things better but they were playing their best and even if we played our best, I would say there is still a deficit in talent, especially in our D corps. Of course for that last point, everyone and their dog knew/knows that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2020, 06:13:12 PM
...I would say there is still a deficit in talent, especially in our D corps.

Oh, absolutely. Whereas the Jets' blue line was a thing of envy for a few years, it's the opposite now outside of Morrissey and Pionk. Poolman is not a top pairing defenseman, Bitetto and Sbisa are journeymen at best, and Kulikov remains precarious because his durability is lacking. This deficit is only exacerbated when the forward lines don't pick up the slack in their own end.

It's a bit scary to think where this team would be without #37 and #30 between the pipes. :-[


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 12, 2020, 05:39:57 PM
Mr Niku draws in vs the Preds with Sbisa, a banged up man, sitting out.
Preds running short with top 4 Dmen, Fabbro & Ellis not playing ....... time for the Jets to swarm & swoop & finish on their chances.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 12, 2020, 09:46:22 PM
Another slow start at home. PP which is #1 in the NHL couldn't get the goal we needed. Helly was excellent.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 13, 2020, 03:17:10 AM
can't win em all but ......... time to start winning our Home games ....... HellB definitely was our Star who gave them a chance to be in it.

Hope Poolman isn't badly hurt 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 13, 2020, 01:00:07 PM
This team stinks. Outside of a stellar November, they're basically a .500 team. And that record would probably be worse if not for Hellebuyck's Vezina-calibre play.

It's going to be a monumental task to make the playoffs, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 13, 2020, 01:29:06 PM
This team stinks. Outside of a stellar November, they're basically a .500 team. And that record would probably be worse if not for Hellebuyck's Vezina-calibre play.

It's going to be a monumental task to make the playoffs, IMO.

Yah.  Not a great past offseason for the Jets...team got worse, some of it was controllable some of it wasn't...I wouldn't be heaping any huge amounts of praise on Chevy and POMO at this point...and the trajectory doesn't look favourable IMO.

Going to suck when football is done and all I have left to watch is this sorry team and their inconsistent effort / talent. 

When is the next Wheeler meltdown with the media coming?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 13, 2020, 02:42:36 PM
Cheveldayoff gets to wear the bulk of the blame, IMO. He did nothing to address the losses to the blue line in the off-season. A head coach can only do much with the roster he's given. Bitetto, Sbisa, and Beaulieu are journeymen at best; Poolman is not a top pairing defenseman; Niku is not developing as planned.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 13, 2020, 09:38:54 PM
Cheveldayoff gets to wear the bulk of the blame, IMO. He did nothing to address the losses to the blue line in the off-season. A head coach can only do much with the roster he's given. Bitetto, Sbisa, and Beaulieu are journeymen at best; Poolman is not a top pairing defenseman; Niku is not developing as planned.

Good summation


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 13, 2020, 09:43:55 PM
I agree on Chevy, he should have never let Ben walk away. With or without Buff.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 14, 2020, 05:39:34 PM
Would be nice to have a fast start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 14, 2020, 05:39:40 PM
As Poolman is out for a bit ...... is Sbisa back in tonight or does Dahlstrom draw in.
Heard yesterday that Copp was working out with Wheeler & Ehlers while Rosy is with Perrault & Lowry.
 
 Is the talented Roslovic going to be trade bait ??  He seems, to me, to always find a way for PM to shuffle him around & graduate Copp into a, cough, cough, offensive role.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 14, 2020, 05:55:32 PM
I hate breaking up Copp and Lowry.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 14, 2020, 07:00:44 PM
I hate breaking up Copp and Lowry.

Desperate times. This team is in a really tough spot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2020, 03:01:52 AM
Finally it's over. Nice to get the win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 15, 2020, 04:27:24 AM
Crazy bounces, super luck at times but HellB continues to be the real reason we get the chance for the win. He was Great !!

Note of interest:  Laine's "slump", IMHO, & how unlucky he was to shoot at the empty net from such a distance & hit the crossbar.
He has only scored 1 time in the past 10 games & in 11 games he has only 1 Power Play assist.   He has had 42 shots on goal in 10 games.
............ That's a WOW in my book for all the ice time he gets on the PP.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 15, 2020, 01:25:32 PM
Sure feels good to see the Jets back in a wild card spot. They need to keep doing what they did last night (play well + get a little bit of luck!) in order to make a permanent home there.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2020, 02:45:18 PM
PL29 is a streaky type of player. Down to 5 D by the end of the game was also not a good thing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 16, 2020, 07:58:11 PM
PL29 is a streaky type of player. Down to 5 D by the end of the game was also not a good thing.

I dunno? I'd say he's been quietly consistent as he's honed his 200 ft. game this season. His goal scoring has been streaky, though.

So, Poolman and Dahlstrom are out now. To say this blue line's beleaguered is putting it kindly. Ugh. :-[


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 17, 2020, 05:31:20 PM
Another quick start tonight would be nice. Any word on our D tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 17, 2020, 07:51:19 PM
Jets site lists ...... Kulikov back in with Morrissey, Niku with Pionk & Bitetto with Sbisa .......... also Harkins out & Bourque back in


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 18, 2020, 01:47:13 AM
Haven't seen any of the game - what's the excuse tonight?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 18, 2020, 02:50:15 AM
Time to clean house.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 18, 2020, 04:31:00 AM
Sad. Can we play the rest of our games on the road. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 18, 2020, 08:02:58 PM
Hire Gallant please.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on January 18, 2020, 09:32:53 PM
Time to clean house.
What???!? Totally ridiculous comment.

Maurice is a proven coach, not having half the lineup we had last year isn?t on Maurice, nor is not having skilled D in place . We lost Big Buff, Trouba,  chairot and Myers, all big strong, hard nosed D that were hard to play against, and we ve replaced them with guys who clearly aren?t ready for prime time.

It?s tough replacing 1 of those 4, but all 4, that?s 3/4 of our defensive corps. Good night Irene!!

Scream for Maurice?s head all you want but our problems are all personnel related . And not to put it all on the D, helleybuck was anything but sharp in letting in 5 goals in what 12 shots?? Lots of blame to go around, just throw it at the right people. A 58% save percentage doesn?t win you any hockey games


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on January 19, 2020, 06:36:00 AM
It seems it's always the coaches problem when a team is struggling.  It's not that simple.  There are others involved in this team that make bigger decisions than Maurice.  There are others that make decisions on signing or not signing players that affect the team in ways the coach has little or no control of.  There is no simple answer to the situation the Jets are in right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 19, 2020, 07:23:14 PM
It seems it's always the coaches problem when a team is struggling.  It's not that simple.  There are others involved in this team that make bigger decisions than Maurice.  There are others that make decisions on signing or not signing players that affect the team in ways the coach has little or no control of.  There is no simple answer to the situation the Jets are in right now.
He has been here going on 7 years. The run is done! His message is obviously not being well received by his players. They give up 40+ shots nearly every single game! If this is PoMos game plan sure fine but I highly doubt that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on January 19, 2020, 09:46:37 PM
It?s not his game plan but it?s the result we are going to get with the lineup we had, shades of the jets 4 years ago. Draft another trouba, trade for another Myers, pickup another chairot and get Buff to come out of retirement.

 Our back end is waaaay too easy to play against and they often lose the 1 on 1 battles in the corner. That?s the beginning of the end


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 19, 2020, 11:07:20 PM
A talent deficient line-up...beyond the top two lines and Morrissey it is a great AHL team or a poor/inconsistent NHL team. 

Not a Stanley cup contender unless some magic happens ...and I doubt Harry Potter likes hockey


1. Connor-Wheeler-Laine
1a. Ehlers-Scheifele-Copp
3. Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
4. Bourque-Shore-Appleton

Morrissey-Kulikov
Sbisa-Pionk
Bitetto-Niku

Hellebuyck in goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
It's clear November was an aberration of overachievement. This team has since come crashing down to earth.

SC contender? Hell, they're not even a playoff contender at this point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 20, 2020, 01:55:35 PM
Lots of hockey left but I don't feel like we are going to be able to pull our heads above water. Feels done. Hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2020, 02:28:53 PM
Our D is just not good enough.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 20, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
Our D is just not good enough.

If you ever wondered how an AHL defense would fare in the NHL...look no further...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2020, 03:15:11 PM
I have no problem with Morrissey, Sbisai, Pionk. I also think Poolman was playing pretty good for a 1st. year NHL D man. However the rest of our D is pretty weak. Loosing so many D men in one year was a big mistake by Chevy. We also don't have a D man right now that can really shot the puck on the PP. Buff would really help this team right now.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 20, 2020, 04:29:38 PM
I'm disappointed, but I guess I'm ok with a rough year if we snap back next season. We've been giving younger players time, we'll have a higher draft pick. I'm sure there are guys on the Moose that will start pushing for time as the year goes on.

As long as we make some moves in the off-season that makes this an aberration.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 20, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
The team is riddled with injuries, missing Buff and save for Hellebuyck, not having career years.  As a somewhat fan, I have to admit, I'm not jazzed about watching right now.  I PVR and fast forward a lot... Maurice should be allowed to muddle through, Chevy needs to figure some stuff out.  If the Buff situation would resolve itself, one way or the other, then things can start moving on...  I'm thinking it might be wise to be a seller at the deadline...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 20, 2020, 04:54:20 PM
The team is riddled with injuries, missing Buff and save for Hellebuyck, not having career years.  As a somewhat fan, I have to admit, I'm not jazzed about watching right now.  I PVR and fast forward a lot... Maurice should be allowed to muddle through, Chevy needs to figure some stuff out.  If the Buff situation would resolve itself, one way or the other, then things can start moving on...  I'm thinking it might be wise to be a seller at the deadline...

I agree. Even if this team miraculously hangs in there and grabs a wild card spot, there's no reason to go all in and toss away another first rounder or piece we find valuable, just to get a rental and win one extra games in the playoffs. This group will not win the cup this year no matter what. That said, playoffs are fun and I'm still cheering to make them simply because it's so, so fun.

Agree with Jesse that I hope this off-season we can reload and make tweaks to be a true contender again next year. Other teams have done this with strong teams but disappointing years. St Louis comes to mind most recently.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2020, 05:12:41 PM
The blue line took such a hit and nothing was done to address it. It's evident most nights watching this team surrender multiple high danger chances and struggling on special teams. The talent on defense just isn't there.

Factor in injuries to the forward group and it should be no surprise to see how lousy the Jets have been the last month and a bit.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 20, 2020, 05:24:26 PM
I agree. Even if this team miraculously hangs in there and grabs a wild card spot, there's no reason to go all in and toss away another first rounder or piece we find valuable, just to get a rental and win one extra games in the playoffs. This group will not win the cup this year no matter what. That said, playoffs are fun and I'm still cheering to make them simply because it's so, so fun.

Agree with Jesse that I hope this off-season we can reload and make tweaks to be a true contender again next year. Other teams have done this with strong teams but disappointing years. St Louis comes to mind most recently.

They also fired their coach..


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2020, 05:46:43 PM
The PP was also a big let down last night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 20, 2020, 05:51:13 PM
The PP was also a big let down last night.

Wheeler said that wasn't an issue...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 20, 2020, 06:17:07 PM
They also fired their coach..

Yes they did. One difference I would highlight in the St Louis case study is that their team was, and has been in the last ~6 years, loaded with talent. The fact that their 2017/2018 and first half of 2018/2019 campaigns were such a disaster was mind-boggling for the roster they were able to ice, and so all signs pointed to coaching issues. In Winnipeg, while we have a large amount of talent weighted to our top 6 skaters, there are gaping holes in the vast majority of the D corps as well as bottom 6 talent, with formerly reliable vets becoming a shadow of their former selves as they age (Perreault, Little). At this point, Chevy's past off-season is to blame for this year's faults. If he is able to make necessary adjustments this coming off-season, I'm willing to give PauMau another year to see what he can do with such a group. Right now, I don't see anyone being able to do too much more with this current group.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2020, 06:38:13 PM
They also fired their coach..

Because he was literally the problem. The Blues were too loaded on talent last season to be as bad as they were for the first half of it. Armstrong made a mistake hiring Yeo, whose issues were obvious during his time in Minnesota. I'm not saying coaching isn't an issue for the Jets this season but it's not the only one, much less the most glaring.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 20, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
All true ...I called the talent deficiency on page 1 of this thread...the challenging part is that it impacts the skilled players we do have and ratchets down their effectiveness too...

I don't think Chipman has the stones to fire Chevy but he got us into this mess with so much talent leaving.  He has been at the helm since the beginning and apart from one deep playoff run this team has been inconsistent.  I lay the blame at his feet and a bit on Pomo. 

I go to one game a year so they aren't getting much of my $$ and my tv viewing has been on and off just cause I have better things to do.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 20, 2020, 06:56:56 PM
Lowry out for "at least one month"  ::) fml


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2020, 07:20:17 PM
Now that's crappy. One of our best PK guys.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2020, 07:41:57 PM
Lowry out for "at least one month"  ::) fml

It's over. This season is over.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 20, 2020, 10:11:24 PM
It's over. This season is over.
Indeed it is. 2 of our top 3 natural centers out and an AHL special D corps we are done. Buff back will not matter at this point. And a lame duck coaching staff! :-[


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 20, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Indeed it is. 2 of our top 3 natural centers out and an AHL special D corps we are done. Buff back will not matter at this point. And a lame duck coaching staff! :-[


I dont think we have lame duck coaching at all. Most experts and hockey ppl give them a ton of credit to be getting what they are from a team that pretty much lost all its D.

Cant really blame Chevy either as we had no money to keep everyone. Buff aint Chevys fault. I think they plan was to go into the season with Buff, Morrissey, Pionk,Kulikuv,Poolman,Niku.......  Thats not a bad D.... it jus didnt work out for one reason or another out of the control of Chevy.

Little being out all this time hasent helped at all. They had to play with lines from the start pretty much. And we have had some other injurys to guys that made them dip into wavers bring guys in and pretty much throw them into the line up.

Im not to happy with all thats going on ...... but i cant really put blame on any one thing. Im actually more happy of how they are doing to be honest.

Take any others teams top 4 D away and wonder how they would do. They are fighting a huge challenge.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 20, 2020, 11:56:37 PM
Lots of hockey left but I don't feel like we are going to be able to pull our heads above water. Feels done. Hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, I feel the same. Other teams have started surging in the West division and the Jets are just spinning their wheels. Plus all the injuries aren?t helping either. Sure  would be nice to be rid of Buff?s $7 million cap hit now to get some veteran help on D. That has really screwed the team this season. Ah well. Hopefully we get some good signings at free agency...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 20, 2020, 11:59:34 PM
 Buff, Morrissey, Pionk,Kulikuv,Poolman,Niku.......  Thats not a bad D

Not a bad D...but not a great one either...I still think it's on Chevy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 21, 2020, 12:23:48 AM
Buff, Morrissey, Pionk,Kulikuv,Poolman,Niku.......  Thats not a bad D

Not a bad D...but not a great one either...I still think it's on Chevy



You only have so much money.

Im taking Pionk and Henoli    sry i spelled his name wrong.... over Trouba any day. Pionk is already better then trouba. and we got both for him.

Gust and Stanley will add lots.

I dont think we are in a bad spot so much as a dull spot. We need a few of the pieces to fill gaps.


Blowing things up is just a horrible idea.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 21, 2020, 02:36:12 PM
I don't know how Pionk is already better than Trouba. They're two pretty different defensemen and while I'd love to have someone like the latter with Morrissey in a shutdown role, I just don't think Trouba is worth the money the Rangers paid him. OTOH, Pionk is proving his worth and his contract is quite nice. But he's not a top pairing shutdown defender any more than Trouba is an offensive blue liner. For cost effectiveness vis a vis the salary cap, perhaps there's an argument to be made that Pionk is better. I'm not sure if comparing the two on equal terms is reasonable, though.

FWIW, losing Trouba could've been a lot worse if not for the acquisition of Pionk and the eventual drafting of Heinola. However, that's the long game as they both continue to develop. In the short term, this team isn't necessarily better off, especially when you compound the other losses to the blue line. Time will tell but we're currently seeing how bad this team when it has to deploy a mostly patchwork defense.

I still think the Byfuglien fiasco has had the biggest impact on the blue line and maybe even the team as a whole. Clearly, they're better with him in the lineup. I'd sure like to see him back on the ice but at this point, would it even matter? Over the last calendar year, he's played all of ten regular season games (and six in the playoffs). I'd expect getting back to game speed would take some time and the Jets don't really have time on their side.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 21, 2020, 07:12:21 PM
We play without Chiarot who only missed 4 games last year & was a +6 at the end of the year ...... while this year he is probably going to set personal point career highs
We have no Myers, who missed just 2 games & was a +11 & really could do a good job of getting the puck up ice
Buff of course is documented on his games missed but definitely was important to the teams success last year ....... this year he has the team in limbo.
Trouba on last year's blueline never missed a game & was a +8 at the end of the year ....... we got Pionk & Heinola for him in a trade which is a pretty good return
Anyways ...... Chevy replaced Myers & Chiarot with waiver wire bodies with a mixed review return

Meanwhile Chevy didn't get anybody for Tanev & he was a real plus for the team last year & this year he probably is on track to set personal career point highs.
Injuries aside ....... Chevy has left us suffering in depth IMO & the clock is ticking on the season & I would hate to see PM be the fall guy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 21, 2020, 10:56:08 PM
Win coming tonight despite the lineup.


#NHLJets line rushes here in pre-game warmup:
Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Wheeler-Roslovic
Perreault-Copp-Appleton
Bourque-Shore-Harkins

Morrissey-Pionk
Kulikov-Sbisa
Bitetto-Niku

Hellebuyck in goal


9 NHL'ers...7 AHL'ers.  Let's go!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 22, 2020, 01:37:37 AM
Play another like that and pomo may get canned before the break...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 22, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
I wish November didn't happen so I didn't get my hopes up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 22, 2020, 02:28:00 PM
Play another like that and pomo may get canned before the break...

A coaching change won't fix what's wrong with this team this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2020, 03:16:29 PM
A coaching change won't fix what's wrong with this team this season.


I agree. All the coaching in the world will not help our D. We are to small, and we don't have enough talent back there. 



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2020, 06:40:05 PM
Do we try and make some deals to improve our D and make a run to make the playoffs? If so who or what do we move to improve.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 22, 2020, 10:07:10 PM
Do we try and make some deals to improve our D and make a run to make the playoffs? If so who or what do we move to improve.



I would say no. To trade away assets or picks to maybe squeak into the playoffs only to likely lose in round one is not worth the cost. First, deal with the Buff situation and then that can dictate signings and/or trades in the offseason. Sadly, I think it?s going to be a rough ride until April. This team as a Cup contender window sure has been slammed shut quickly. At least we had 17/18...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 22, 2020, 10:09:01 PM
Think it will, but meanwhile I do strongly hope, the Buff decisions are made in the next couple of weeks.
 .......... is he a player to keep, trade or does his retirement free up Cap Space ...... meanwhile the team struggles to be healthy & struggles to compete in our end.

Brossoit tonight needs to be awesome ...... Columbus is on a real positive journey & is really hard to score on ...... looking for a 3-2 Jet Victory


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2020, 10:23:34 PM
Raptors and 76er's. The remote will be getting a workout. Have to PVR Vikings.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 23, 2020, 02:12:10 AM
Another loss...

That last goal was just a pitiful effort by Kulikov on that pillow soft check attempt.  He finishes that check and the goal doesn't happen.  It's like a linebacker missing a sure tackle - weak effort on the fundamentals...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 23, 2020, 01:18:16 PM
Another loss...

That last goal was just a pitiful effort by Kulikov on that pillow soft check attempt.  He finishes that check and the goal doesn't happen.  It's like a linebacker missing a sure tackle - weak effort on the fundamentals...


Was thinking the same. Also wasn't impressed at Niku being in catch up mode there. Pretty much handed it over to them.

Man oh man do they ever need this break from hockey. And so do I, quite frankly.

I go to one or two games a year, and the next one against the Bruins (first game after the break) is my game. I'll keep my expectations low but still hope to be pleasantly surprised.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 23, 2020, 02:01:42 PM
I watched the highlights from the Jets / preds playoff game just to see some inspired hockey - the game at home where we were down 3-0 was just awesome. 

Our talent sure has diminished since that run ...Tanev, Statsney, Buff, Myers (I hated on him before - sorry now), Trouba...

Different level for sure..

No football this weekend :(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 23, 2020, 02:53:31 PM
No football this weekend :(

On the plus side, we don't have to watch the Jets!  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 23, 2020, 02:55:53 PM
I watched the highlights from the Jets / preds playoff game just to see some inspired hockey - the game at home where we were down 3-0 was just awesome. 

Our talent sure has diminished since that run ...Tanev, Statsney, Buff, Myers (I hated on him before - sorry now), Trouba...

Different level for sure..


Thanks for the memory. I am actually in Nashville for work this week and was at some local watering holes to watch both games. Had some great friendly banter with Preds fans. All of them brought up this series and how epic it was, and they were on the losing side.

Truly the peak of Jets fandom IMO. While I'm not old enough, I'd venture to say it might have been the epitome of greatness in all versions of the Jets, save for maybe the WHA championships.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 24, 2020, 04:51:56 PM
So, if Buff is cleared to play, does it make more sense to play him, or trade him?  Does the room want him back after what transpired, does he want to be back, or neither or both? 

What is the return in a trade for him?  We aren't making a cup run this year for sure, barring a St. Louis like second half to the season.  We aren't going to get much in return for Little, with his current status, recent play and contract. Perreault is less of a liability, contract wise, but again, his current play level... 

While we are probably sellers in the current market, is there much we want to move? 

Can you move an Ehlers?  Would it make sense to?  He has an attractive contract... but is he part of the core you want to build around?

Has Kulikov improved his play enough to be an attractive trade piece?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 24, 2020, 04:54:54 PM
Tank for Alexis...




 ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 24, 2020, 07:15:37 PM
I agree. All the coaching in the world will not help our D. We are to small, and we don't have enough talent back there. 



I'm honestly wavering back and forth on this. I believe that everyone (meaning pomo and Chevy) knew this was going to be a tough season and it was accepted that we would grit through it and give'r again next season.

But last year was a huge disappointment as well, and that was with all of the pieces. So I wouldn't be upset if there was another coach out there who we think could be an upgrade.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 24, 2020, 08:35:47 PM
Here's a thought... Maurice has been doing a good job, and is a good coach, I have no doubt, and the players will skate through a wall for him. 

It is our D that is the issue, both the talent level and the coaching/systems. 

We can't really do much about the players, there are only so many moves you can make within reason. 

So... Charlie Huddy.  Is it time to move on from our team's "defensive specialist"?  Would bringing in a former HC that is out there in the wind make any sense?  Are tehre any D-whisperers out there?  How much of a difference would a coaching change make at that level?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 24, 2020, 08:58:01 PM
Give Huddy something to work with before you fire him. We mite have the smallest D in the NHL, we also are playing a few D men right now that wouldn't have made a world junior team.

If your going to fire anybody fire Chevy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2020, 08:59:53 PM
But last year was a huge disappointment as well, and that was with all of the pieces. So I wouldn't be upset if there was another coach out there who we think could be an upgrade.

Huge disappointment is probably an exaggeration. The Jets did still finish second in the division, losing to the hottest team going into the playoffs and the eventual champions.

This season is different. The blue line got gutted in free agency, injuries have mounted, Byfuglien is MIA... It's tough to compare this season to the last.

That said, I'm not sure an available coach out there could take this roster and get more success out of it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 24, 2020, 09:06:42 PM
Here's a thought... Maurice has been doing a good job, and is a good coach, I have no doubt, and the players will skate through a wall for him. 

It is our D that is the issue, both the talent level and the coaching/systems. 

We can't really do much about the players, there are only so many moves you can make within reason. 

So... Charlie Huddy.  Is it time to move on from our team's "defensive specialist"?  Would bringing in a former HC that is out there in the wind make any sense?  Are tehre any D-whisperers out there?  How much of a difference would a coaching change make at that level?


My guess is not much. I mean, if we do change out Huddy and PauMau while I would miss them I would understand, but ultimately I think they would be scapegoats of the main problem, which we all agree is defensive personnel. You are right that there isn't much we can do on that front right now.

I say we stay the course and let this year play out, sort out the D free agents (i.e. let them walk) and go after several capable, mid-priced Dmen. Also left to deal with vets like Perreault and Little and it might be time for hopefully younger guys in the system to step up. I could live with a development year if it means we get the Finns (Niku, Vesalainen, Heinola) in the big club, as well as maybe the Swedes (Gustafsson, Dahlstrom). Depending on how the rest of this year goes, we might get a high enough pick that we draft a first year starter.

No trade deadline stuff unless we are sellers. Keep the current coaching staff and see how the first half of next season goes with a re-tooled roster. If we are in the same position we are in right now, then it's blow up time.

Who would have thought that if you lose Byfuglien, Myers and Chiarot and replace them with Bitetto, Sbisa and Poolman that you'd lose a step? (I didn't include Trouba in there as he was replaced appropriately with Pionk).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 27, 2020, 02:16:50 AM
Who would have thought that if you lose Byfuglien, Myers and Chiarot and replace them with Bitetto, Sbisa and Poolman that you'd lose a step? (I didn't include Trouba in there as he was replaced appropriately with Pionk).

Eh, maybe to a man. Trouba was an excellent top pairing shutdown defender with Morrissey. Pionk isn't really that; he's more of a Myers type, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 27, 2020, 05:08:24 AM
Tend to agree with quite a few ...... change, if necessary,  the coaching staff at the end not now.
Yes our Dmen will be even lighter next year if Niku & Heinola both are starters.
If you add Morrissey, who I like but am somewhat disappointed in, to those above mentioned two.....
.....  then the Jets will have 3 dmen who will be stick checkers, not physical & get beaten on the boards
Just anticipating that our defence, with young hopefuls, might be light going into next year

Did anyone else here this call in, by an avid fisherman, on Fri?s 1290 The Big Show
The man stated that Buff has his name registered for bout 17 more ice fishing tournaments thru May.
His closing comment was that Buff won?t be coming back
Take it for what it?s worth ....... but even if exaggerated, that?s not rehabbing on ice with skates


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 27, 2020, 01:16:04 PM
I think Morrissey's been a "disappointment" simply because of the gutting of the blue line, and more specifically losing his pairing partner in Trouba.

As for Byfuglien, that doesn't really surprise me. I'll take it with a grain of salt for now but considering how much he loves to fish, it's not a shocker. He could very well be done with hockey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 27, 2020, 03:51:35 PM
Eh, maybe to a man. Trouba was an excellent top pairing shutdown defender with Morrissey. Pionk isn't really that; he's more of a Myers type, IMO.

They do play different roles, yes, but my point was that in terms of overall quality, Pionk is on the same level as Trouba.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2020, 08:28:49 PM
Jets rumoured to be in on trading for Sharks' defenseman Brenden Dillon. No idea what the ask is, though.

https://puckprose.com/2020/01/29/nhl-trade-rumors-winnipeg-jets-boston-bruins-brenden-dillon/ (https://puckprose.com/2020/01/29/nhl-trade-rumors-winnipeg-jets-boston-bruins-brenden-dillon/)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Colton on January 29, 2020, 09:14:45 PM
Love Dillon, there's no way we (Sharks) can keep him around next season, so I'd prefer he end up with the Jets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2020, 09:17:45 PM
Love Dillon, there's no way we (Sharks) can keep him around next season, so I'd prefer he end up with the Jets.

Yeah, he seems like a pretty solid blue liner and all-around teammate. I just don't know if I like the idea of trading for a pending UFA, even if it helps them make the playoffs. I feel like their chances are slim and if they do squeak in, it'll be a quick first round exit.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 29, 2020, 09:23:35 PM
Would be okay if we could trade and sign him. If not I agree, a rental player to sneak into the playoffs????


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 30, 2020, 01:12:48 AM
Was hoping a few times in the past that Chevy might have considered getting this Dman ...... such as when he was coming off his ELC after 2013-14 season with Dallas.
Instead, Dallas traded him to the Sharks after the first 20 games of the 2014-15 season.
Of Note; he was never drafted        He doesn't appear to be offensively gifted, plays the body on the boards, is up to 73 PM's & has 158 hits already.

As a UFA next season, I would hazard to guess he might garner a minimal raise over his current $ 3,270,000. Cap Hit
It would be like dumping Kulikov's $$ for a cheaper Dillon next year ........ hey Chevy, maybe its a Kulikov for Dillon right now


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 30, 2020, 11:13:13 PM
Honestly, I?m okay with the Jets doing nothing at the trade deadline. They simply do not have enough defensive talent to do anything in the playoffs. Next year Kulikov and maybe Buff (if he retires) are off the books so free agency is where Chevy can make a splash to get better talent. I?m happy with our forwards for the most part...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 30, 2020, 11:25:42 PM
Another big question will be BL18. Can he return from this injury?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2020, 01:31:11 PM
Another big question will be BL18. Can he return from this injury?

He's been skating in a non-contact jersey since early January. All indications are he's coming along, passing necessary tests as he progresses.

Update as of yesterday: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-health-updates-little-lowry-poolman-and-beaulieu/ (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-health-updates-little-lowry-poolman-and-beaulieu/)

He should be able to return from this injury.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 31, 2020, 06:47:26 PM
Heard that Poolman is skating every 2nd day & may get into one of the next 3 games. However he & Beauliux, who is virtually ready, will not dress tonight.
From yesterday's practise it appears to be ..... Morrissey with Pionk, Niku with Kulikov & Sbisa was paired with Bitetto, as the starting 6 Dmen.
Also Appleton was with Wheels & Ehler, while Rosy skated with Copp & Perrault.

Surprise for me was to hear that Brossoit will start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 31, 2020, 07:10:38 PM
Heard that Poolman is skating every 2nd day & may get into one of the next 3 games. However he & Beauliux, who is virtually ready, will not dress tonight.
From yesterday's practise it appears to be ..... Morrissey with Pionk, Niku with Kulikov & Sbisa was paired with Bitetto, as the starting 6 Dmen.
Also Appleton was with Wheels & Ehler, while Rosy skated with Copp & Perrault.

Surprise for me was to hear that Brossoit will start tonight.

My wife has a weird theory that Helle has a "thing" about playing Boston, since it seems he does not play against them, at least often (I haven't verified). When the Jets played in Boston earlier this month, Helle also didn't start, although that was in a back-to-back situation. 3 years ago, we saw the Jets play in Boston and he had tons of family there because that's where he went to college where he met his g/f, but he didn't get the nod (Hutch I think started back then).

Anyway, a little weird. Playing a very strong opponent after a week+ break and desperately trying to get some wins and salvage the season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 31, 2020, 07:12:38 PM
I only go to 1-2 games a year and this is one of them so I am stoked. First time seeing us play an original 6 team live at home.

I'm hoping this break week was just what they needed to shake their heads and get back into the mix.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 31, 2020, 07:17:59 PM
I only go to 1-2 games a year and this is one of them so I am stoked. First time seeing us play an original 6 team live at home.

I'm hoping this break week was just what they needed to shake their heads and get back into the mix.

Awesome! Enjoy! :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 31, 2020, 07:24:34 PM
Awesome! Enjoy! :)

Thank you, sir!

If the Jets win but I have a bad time, I'm fine with that too LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2020, 07:24:48 PM
Heard that Poolman is skating every 2nd day & may get into one of the next 3 games. However he & Beauliux, who is virtually ready, will not dress tonight.
From yesterday's practise it appears to be ..... Morrissey with Pionk, Niku with Kulikov & Sbisa was paired with Bitetto, as the starting 6 Dmen.
Also Appleton was with Wheels & Ehler, while Rosy skated with Copp & Perrault.

Surprise for me was to hear that Brossoit will start tonight.

It's a back-to-back. Hellebuyck will start tomorrow vs. the Blues (a far more important rival).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 31, 2020, 07:54:24 PM
My wife has a weird theory that Helle has a "thing" about playing Boston, since it seems he does not play against them, at least often (I haven't verified). When the Jets played in Boston earlier this month, Helle also didn't start, although that was in a back-to-back situation. 3 years ago, we saw the Jets play in Boston and he had tons of family there because that's where he went to college where he met his g/f, but he didn't get the nod (Hutch I think started back then).

Anyway, a little weird. Playing a very strong opponent after a week+ break and desperately trying to get some wins and salvage the season.

Iirc, Hutch normally started the Boston games because he had a history of doing really well against them.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 31, 2020, 07:59:44 PM
It's a back-to-back. Hellebuyck will start tomorrow vs. the Blues (a far more important rival).

Totally forgot the Jets also play tomorrow night, and it's the Blues.

Iirc, Hutch normally started the Boston games because he had a history of doing really well against them.

I think you're thinking of Chicago. Hutch was a Blackhawk killer. Even when we weren't a good team, I think we swept them or something like that with Hutch in for a year or two, even when he wasn't the number 1 guy. That's back when Chicago was a powerhouse.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 31, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
Totally forgot the Jets also play tomorrow night, and it's the Blues.

I think you're thinking of Chicago. Hutch was a Blackhawk killer. Even when we weren't a good team, I think we swept them or something like that with Hutch in for a year or two, even when he wasn't the number 1 guy. That's back when Chicago was a powerhouse.




That could definitely be it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 01, 2020, 04:12:19 AM
We didn't win, but that was a very good game. PP has to be better to win games like that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
We didn't win, but that was a very good game. PP has to be better to win games like that.

This. Overall, a good effort by the home team. But last night's loss basically highlighted the importance of having good special teams.

Should be a good tilt tonight... I hope.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 01, 2020, 10:56:53 PM
Overall a real above average effort IMO. Yes it came down to the real bad 0 for 6 Jet result on the PP  while the Bruins scored 2 on the PP.

Eyed this oddity ..... Jets gave the puck away 9 times with a low 5 takeaways ....... meanwhile the Bruins gave it away just 5 times but amazingly had ZERO takeaways.
I don't have any recollection of ever seeing a ZERO ........ so Kudos to the Jets on that ability to be tough on their stick

HellB has to be the big Star tonight  ....... did feel Brossoit was real good last night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on February 01, 2020, 11:12:33 PM
Finally a Saturday game that is not on the Sportsnet channels only! And HOOSLI!!! Love them! Let?s go Jets!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2020, 07:16:51 AM
A very good win for us. Helly had a great game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2020, 04:35:20 PM
Great win last night! The Jets really needed that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 02, 2020, 05:49:38 PM
Was holding my breath late in the game when the Blues just kept coming & coming.
Jets survived with real good play for 2 periods but certainly need to improve when they have the lead & not just play "dare ya" to score.
HellB was the STAR he needed to be & Rosy finished on the chances he got      SUPER WIN !!!

Terrible stat ..... the Jets were guilty of 22 Giveaways while the Blues had a mere 5, 4.  Chaos abounds with those numbers & especially in our end.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2020, 07:47:30 PM
Yes, the third period was a very long period for Jet's fans.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 03, 2020, 06:55:11 PM
Looks like that's it for #33 in Winnipeg: https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-winnipeg-jets-and-dustin-byfuglien-heading-toward-split-1.1437152 (https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-winnipeg-jets-and-dustin-byfuglien-heading-toward-split-1.1437152)

Quote
The Jets and defenceman Dustin Byfuglien are working toward a mutual contract termination over the next several days, according to multiple sources, which would formally end his suspension and bring to a close the grievance Byfuglien filed in November.

For the Jets, the termination would bring much-needed clarity to their salary cap picture, freeing up GM Kevin Cheveldayoff to use the $7.6 million in space they have earmarked for Byfuglien all season in case he returned to play or successfully grieved his suspension.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 03, 2020, 08:08:55 PM
Looks like that's it for #33 in Winnipeg: https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-winnipeg-jets-and-dustin-byfuglien-heading-toward-split-1.1437152 (https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-winnipeg-jets-and-dustin-byfuglien-heading-toward-split-1.1437152)


I will be surprised if he plays in the NHL at any level of effectiveness again...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 03, 2020, 08:48:39 PM
What a weird way to end it all.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 03, 2020, 08:50:46 PM
What a weird way to end it all.

for such a unique player and overall fan favorite it does seem really weird...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 03, 2020, 08:51:08 PM
Agree that it reads that $$ is going to be available ........ time to do a deal with Buffalo & get a RH Dman, Ristolainen or Colin Miller in a trade
Info: Risto at $5.4M with 2 yrs left, can hit, has the shot & is young 25 & reliable.
Miller at 27, Cap hit of just under $3.9 for 2 more seasons after, was very good with Vegas but has been in a funk with the coach & his play this year
Buffalo is in a world of hurt for the Cap & perhaps Chevy can move a young, touted by our fans Heinola. We already have light weight Niku (course maybe he goes)

Either Ristolainen or Miller will give us veteran experience on the road to make the playoffs ....... plus real decent Top 4 RH Dman presence.

This is like a Fact or Fantasy time for me prior to the Trade deadline. ;D         Am big on looking outside our Conference first.

 
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 03, 2020, 09:01:43 PM
for such a unique player and overall fan favorite it does seem really weird...

Here I thought that in 10 years we would be having Buff Smash Night annually, and have his number in the rafters one day.

I guess no "thanks for the memories" final goodbye.

How unceremonious for such a loved player with star power for when the Jets came back in 2011.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 03, 2020, 09:12:36 PM
Something still doesn't smell right with all of this. But at the end of the day, it is what it is. It would have be nice to trade him and get something for Big Buff. To bad I have really missed his big hits and big personality this year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 03, 2020, 10:36:41 PM
Agree that it reads that $$ is going to be available ........ time to do a deal with Buffalo & get a RH Dman, Ristolainen or Colin Miller in a trade
Info: Risto at $5.4M with 2 yrs left, can hit, has the shot & is young 25 & reliable.
Miller at 27, Cap hit of just under $3.9 for 2 more seasons after, was very good with Vegas but has been in a funk with the coach & his play this year
Buffalo is in a world of hurt for the Cap & perhaps Chevy can move a young, touted by our fans Heinola. We already have light weight Niku (course maybe he goes)

Either Ristolainen or Miller will give us veteran experience on the road to make the playoffs ....... plus real decent Top 4 RH Dman presence.

This is like a Fact or Fantasy time for me prior to the Trade deadline. ;D         Am big on looking outside our Conference first.

 
 


The Jets wont do any of this.

They will continue to follow the path they set out.

Most of the guys we lost in the last few years were not really thought to become as good as they were. Big Ben and Tanav ...jus an example of players we may have seen as a fill in till our young guys were ready.

They became really good and and wanted to be payed as they should. Even Myers.

Most of our drafted players have signed reasonable contracts to allow room for others.

Every player thats involved with True North understands whats going on .....   every player understands how you get the big money.

Continue building this way will get you bigger and better.


Might make players like Big Ben think about going to a **** team for more money but never smelling a Cup or even getting close.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on February 03, 2020, 11:15:17 PM
While it seemed that something of this nature was going to happen with Buff, it sure makes me sad to see him go. Some games he was hands down the sole entertainment out there on the ice. From his massive hits to ragdolling multiple players at a time. One of my favourites was him yanking two Knights out of a rumble onto their a****. Buff is truly a one of a kind player. I actually wouldn?t be surprised to see him sign a 1 or 2 year deal during free agency. That is, if he is interested in playing. Thanks for the memories Buffy!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on February 04, 2020, 12:29:35 AM
I agree, this is sad. Not sure what happened here, he hurt his ankle, had surgery and then there?s a squabble/dispute on whether he gets paid or not when he recovers from the injury and then fades to black?? Talk about a cold, cruel world.

And I get it that there?s more to it than what we see/ hear, but why hasn?t management filled the voids left behind by the departures of Trouba, Myers and Charot!?! It used to be tough to play in the Jets end of the rink, not so anymore. Not many pucks won in our endzone, lots of guys getting pushed off the puck. I read that the jets are in the market for a top 4 defense an, only one!?!? We need 3 more to fill the skates of buff, trouba, Myers and charot!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 04, 2020, 02:38:26 AM
I tend to believe the stories that say he didn't want to rehab with the team as it's  a gruelling process that he didn't want to go through. So I don't expect to see him playing again.

It's an odd and unceremonious way to end his tenure with the Jets. I didn't expect him to see the end of the contract we signed him to, but I didn't expect this.

Thanks for the memories Buff, a few years down the road, everyone's only going to remember the good times.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 04, 2020, 02:24:38 PM
Another big game for the Jet's tonight. Need a total team effort. Go Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 04, 2020, 03:48:13 PM
We won a game and so now I'm back to planning the Stanley Cup parade!!  :D

Seriously, it would be lovely to get some consistency going in terms of getting wins. Even though we have been lousy for the last ~6 weeks, we were snake bitten to some extent and didn't deserve some of those losses. It would be nice to be on the other side of the luck factor in hockey. We are somehow still only a few points out of a wild card spot and so if we can pick ourselves up a bit and grind out this home stretch, getting a whiff of spring hockey might still be in question.

I have a 4 tap bar that wants to be milked this spring with playoff parties, so make it happen, Jets!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 04, 2020, 04:51:42 PM
Here I thought that in 10 years we would be having Buff Smash Night annually, and have his number in the rafters one day.

I guess no "thanks for the memories" final goodbye.

How unceremonious for such a loved player with star power for when the Jets came back in 2011.

Nailed it. Unceremonious is a perfect descriptor.

What a sad way to see his tenure end with this organization. To see it all come down to this is disappointing to say the least. Not just a one-of-a-kind player but a unique personality and for the most part, he'd been such a huge part of the Jets 2.0 and a fan favourite - at least up until all this crap happened.

Another fairly big division tilt tonight. Here's hoping the home team can make it a gooder, unlike the last time the Predators were in town. :-\


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: dd on February 04, 2020, 10:37:51 PM
I hope the situation is resolved and closure brought to this not only for Buff s sake but for the sake of the Jets fan base. I know hockey?s a business but I don?t like the way there?s been no official retirement or opportunity to say thanks for all you?ve done for us, and best of luck in the future .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 05, 2020, 02:36:09 AM
Needed that extra point...didn't really touch the puck in OT...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2020, 03:19:02 AM
OT started off bad, and ended terrible. To bad we play another good game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 05, 2020, 01:12:28 PM
The Jets' PP is embarrassing. It's so predictable.

Another hard fought game ends up in the loss column. Single points aren't going to help their cause as far as the playoffs go.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 05, 2020, 07:05:36 PM
Hockey gods are not giving the Jets a fluky goal to win the game ...... Saros was quite good but our shooting into the body has got to stop ...
... PP is indeed predictable ..... Wheeler makes a nice passes & can get a puck off the boards ....... he needs to make himself less predictable on the PP


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2020, 09:02:43 PM
Yes, we need a shake up on the PP.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 07, 2020, 02:47:34 AM
- Jets win
- subpar D couldn?t stop the Blues onslaught in the second half of the second period
- Hellebuyck is a freak


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2020, 03:18:07 AM
Great road victory over the champs tonight! Hellebuyck is playing some insanely impressive hockey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 07, 2020, 05:10:37 AM
HellB indeed keeps being responsible for most of our positive outcomes
Nice to see Harkins get on the stat sheet & his linemates Copp & Rosy all gel together
Sbisa takes one for the team --- OUCH !


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 07, 2020, 01:04:46 PM
Good 2 points...need to grind about 5-7 in a row like that now or at least win 7-8 out of the next 10.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Stretch on February 07, 2020, 03:22:41 PM
Good 2 points...need to grind about 5-7 in a row like that now or at least win 7-8 out of the next 10.

Hopeful they can win at least 4 out of the next 6 at home, although there could be a couple of trap games in there (OTT, LA).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2020, 03:13:35 PM
1PM start today. If the Jet's play like they have been this should be a W.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2020, 08:56:20 PM
Solid win. LB30 played well, 29/55/81 and the PP were very good tonight. Nice to see the PP back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 08, 2020, 11:59:24 PM
Yes Brozilla had to be good early & he was ............ Conner 4 points, Laine 3 goals & Scheif, who had a real tenacious game had zero points ......
.... my Pool results hurts when Scheif gets nothing & Morrissey as well with O.

Tried to pay attention to the RH shot Dman Demalo for Ottawa, as I heard his name offered up in trade rumours. Seemed tough on the boards but otherwise ???

Onto the next victory which will be vs the Hawks 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 10, 2020, 01:45:18 AM
Jets


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: pjrocksmb on February 10, 2020, 01:48:41 AM
Jets tickets for sale vs. Chicago next Sunday.  $150 pair.  300 level blueline.

Pm me


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2020, 02:36:48 AM
Great weekend for the Jets and one heck of a comeback victory tonight!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 10, 2020, 04:20:56 AM
Slow start but what can you expect for a team playing there 3rd game in four nights. Nice win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 10, 2020, 09:04:07 PM
Had me nervous after the 1st period but Woweeeee did the Jets take over ......... Great team Victory
Hopefully Wheels has no headaches today, after being taking off bench for concussion protocol ...... also Scheif's shoulder might need some ice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 10, 2020, 10:45:32 PM
Had me nervous after the 1st period but Woweeeee did the Jets take over ......... Great team Victory
Hopefully Wheels has no headaches today, after being taking off bench for concussion protocol ...... also Scheif's shoulder might need some ice.


I agree

Shows other guys what leaders will do to win games. Laine has become a great 200 foot player.

Having Copp, Ehlers, Laine, Appleton, and others picking up their game is awesome.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 11, 2020, 05:04:00 PM
Do hope for the return of Lowry & Poolman to the lineup ........ anyone know of any update

Trouba returns to face the Jets tonight ....... hopefully the boooo birds do not come out ....... he was a solid Jet & Chevy traded him for 2 winners.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2020, 06:38:13 PM
Booing Trouba would be pretty silly but I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. There's a good number of fans here who like to hold on to petty, needless grudges.

I just want a Jets win. And what better night than when honouring to Jets 1.0 greats!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2020, 01:20:58 PM
What a stinker last night. Maybe karma came to roost at the arena after all that classless booing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2020, 04:56:49 PM
Looks like the rumours about a new contract for Maurice were true: https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-to-announce-extension-for-head-coach-paul-maurice-1.1441702 (https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-to-announce-extension-for-head-coach-paul-maurice-1.1441702)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2020, 09:05:25 PM
Nice I like it. Chevy needs to get him some D.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 13, 2020, 03:25:46 PM
What a stinker last night. Maybe karma came to roost at the arena after all that classless booing.

I was there. Most of the arena also give him a standing ovation when they showed his thank you video.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 13, 2020, 04:04:31 PM
I was there. Most of the arena also give him a standing ovation when they showed his thank you video.

So was I. There was booing during it, which was classless. There was ample booing before and after it, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 13, 2020, 06:42:46 PM
So was I. There was booing during it, which was classless. There was ample booing before and after it, too.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 14, 2020, 05:17:19 PM
Poolman is back in YAHOO..... do like this guy  Sbisa as well in the lineup
Bitetto & Niku are in the press box ....... maybe Niku can be part of a pkg to get, i.e., Dumba


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2020, 06:28:30 PM
Should be a sweet heart of a game tonight. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 15, 2020, 12:15:10 AM
Should be a sweet heart of a game tonight. lol

through the 2nd period - 3 shots on net for the Jets


And ONE hour of clock time since the Jets last shot one net.  6:12pm to 6:12pm


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 15, 2020, 12:17:57 AM
Now that's a sweet goal by KFC...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 15, 2020, 02:21:58 AM
team continues their struggles to get production from lower 6 fellas ......... rely on tv time outs to keep the refreshed top 6 on
Definitely liked that Wheeler moved to RW by late 2nd period ........ are Roslovic's days numbered in the mind of PM
Important 2 points scraped under the zamboki tonight ........ great action in the latter 3rd period otherwise ........ oh well that's sports


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 15, 2020, 04:09:51 PM
Joke of an effort...

Remarkable: #NHLJets fired 32 shots tonight. 19 of them came in less than 6 minutes of action (7 on a PP where they scored, 6 on a PP where they didn't score, 6 with the goalie pulled). The other 13 came in the other 54 minutes of action.

These losses to teams technically worse then them are costly and speak directly to leadership.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 15, 2020, 07:13:27 PM
Little won't be back this season. Sounds like his eardrum injury is serious and will require surgery.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 15, 2020, 07:23:13 PM
That's real tough news for Little ....... cheering for a positive outcome & looking forward to seeing him in TC next season
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 15, 2020, 10:15:06 PM
Now that's some sad news. Got to feel for BL18.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 17, 2020, 05:47:53 PM
Yahoooooo a victory ...... HellB was steady & the newly formed line of Rosy between Harkins & Appleton were terrific out there vs Chicago
Otherwise the Jets continue to have struggles with teams putting on pressure. Our Dmen sadly gave the puck away 11 times of a terrible 19 total while the team only took away 5.
Beaulieu did score but YIKES he can be a mess defensively ......... Chevy neeeeeeds to get a TOP 4 Dman in for this team to go anyplace.

Scheif again did not score, led our team with 3 giveaways, recorded only a single shot, lost 3 more faceoffs than he won, was -2, yet was on the ice the most for all forwards
His winger Wheels did not record a shot & Ehlers recorded 3. There was no PP time, so Scheif & Wheels did not get a chance to jack up their stats. 
I'm truly cheering for these guys but the reality is, their 5 on 5 play leaves a bit to be desired.
Maybe PM should take a chance & give them a few less shifts, which may allow their legs to be more fresh, if that's possible, for the 3rd period.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 17, 2020, 06:59:55 PM
Two stawart Jets are off the books, horrible from a talent and personnel standpoint, but with that bad, you have to take the upside..

So, we have a crapton of cap space now.  18 and 33 take a ton off the books, we can take someone's cap crap contract along with a good player to upgrade the team.  Either short term or long, time to use cap space no one else has to make some hay. 



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 18, 2020, 06:48:42 PM
Jets have sent a 3rd Round 2020 spot for Rt shot, stay at home D. Dylan DeMelo from Ottawa
Sbisa was sent to the IR
He?s a 26 year old RFA rental that just last night I saw him interviewed after practice & he started tearing up when asked about the rumours swirling. He said something to the affect that he doesn?t want to move ...... apparently he is not flying here but waiting till (see below)

Dman stability, but why didn?t this occur days earlier ?  The team plays 3 in 4 nights on the road starting on Thursday in Ottawa, no less. DeMelo isn?t going to get in any practices till ???
Happy with the price but will save my accolades on Chevy?s move till later


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 18, 2020, 10:00:44 PM
I am okay with this trade but he is another smallest D. 6'-191. I would have been a much happier with Dillon 6'-4"-225. But the asking price was a little more expensive.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 19, 2020, 02:58:56 AM
Pretty solid win. We can get #55 scoring that would be a big bonus.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 19, 2020, 12:54:41 PM
Feeling good again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 19, 2020, 03:36:06 PM
Feeling good again.

Me too. Decent (not great) home-stand with with reinforcements at D about to join us.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 19, 2020, 04:32:06 PM
It's going to be one heck of a 6 week home stretch to the end, fending off the vultures for the wild card spots.

CGY, ARI, NSH....can't afford any slip ups and need to start playing consistent above 500 hockey. No skids.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 19, 2020, 11:26:01 PM
Big Buff on the trading block. I think this a much better move for the Jet's then just letting him walk with a load of money.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 20, 2020, 05:25:43 AM
It would surely be a stretch if Chevy can find a suitor, especially completely out of Conference, for big Buff.
If it does happen, we face a few gaps in our Draft Rounds, i.e. Rd 3, 4, 7 coming up ....... perhaps we can get a warm, ready player & a Draft pick in exchange.
I say ready player cuz there still is a center gap IMO.
IF Wheels stays as Scheif's winger, truly hope he does, with Ehlers. Rosy, Apple & Hark stay together whipping around & making plays ......... that leaves ???
Speculating that Lowry comes back ..... does Copp stay as the center for Laine & Conman ????
My opinion is that Copp & Lowry are truly not offensively gifted & may stymie the line.    Therefore do we possibly get a center in return for Buff ???

Wild thought: assuming Montreal, who is virtually out of the playoffs, is interested 
.... we send Buff & Lowry, Niku & in return ..... get center Danault & one of their 3 - 2nd Rd Draft slots & a 4th Rd slot if Buff signs with them
That would give us that 2nd Cman, Copp could play & elevate the 4th line & kill penalties


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 20, 2020, 01:03:50 PM
It would surely be a stretch if Chevy can find a suitor, especially completely out of Conference, for big Buff.
If it does happen, we face a few gaps in our Draft Rounds, i.e. Rd 3, 4, 7 coming up ....... perhaps we can get a warm, ready player & a Draft pick in exchange.
I say ready player cuz there still is a center gap IMO.
IF Wheels stays as Scheif's winger, truly hope he does, with Ehlers. Rosy, Apple & Hark stay together whipping around & making plays ......... that leaves ???
Speculating that Lowry comes back ..... does Copp stay as the center for Laine & Conman ????
My opinion is that Copp & Lowry are truly not offensively gifted & may stymie the line.    Therefore do we possibly get a center in return for Buff ???

Wild thought: assuming Montreal, who is virtually out of the playoffs, is interested 
.... we send Buff & Lowry, Niku & in return ..... get center Danault & one of their 3 - 2nd Rd Draft slots & a 4th Rd slot if Buff signs with them
That would give us that 2nd Cman, Copp could play & elevate the 4th line & kill penalties

We would be insane to trade Lowry. I also haven't given up on Niku yet, but he has some work to do. I would have just played him all year, warts and all, instead of e.g. Bitetto, to let him iron out his game.

Also, I think Copp can truly fill a top 6 centre role as long as he's surrounded with talent. I think holding the fort as a very capable 2-way fwd with Laine and KFC flanking him is a perfect role, and with the talent around him to chip in more offensively. That said, without Little returning, that leaves us lacking @ C. Once we get Lowry and MattyP back though I think they form an excellent 3rd or 4th line.

I'm loving the "2015" line and their hustle.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 20, 2020, 01:10:56 PM
It would surely be a stretch if Chevy can find a suitor, especially completely out of Conference, for big Buff.
If it does happen, we face a few gaps in our Draft Rounds, i.e. Rd 3, 4, 7 coming up ....... perhaps we can get a warm, ready player & a Draft pick in exchange.
I say ready player cuz there still is a center gap IMO.
IF Wheels stays as Scheif's winger, truly hope he does, with Ehlers. Rosy, Apple & Hark stay together whipping around & making plays ......... that leaves ???
Speculating that Lowry comes back ..... does Copp stay as the center for Laine & Conman ????
My opinion is that Copp & Lowry are truly not offensively gifted & may stymie the line.    Therefore do we possibly get a center in return for Buff ???

Wild thought: assuming Montreal, who is virtually out of the playoffs, is interested 
.... we send Buff & Lowry, Niku & in return ..... get center Danault & one of their 3 - 2nd Rd Draft slots & a 4th Rd slot if Buff signs with them
That would give us that 2nd Cman, Copp could play & elevate the 4th line & kill penalties



Horrible idea


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 20, 2020, 03:30:14 PM
The insiders are talking Panthers, Wild, Leaf's. My money is on the Wild, or Panthers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 20, 2020, 04:38:53 PM
I put down the Montreal trade idea to get our juices flowing for the ?what might/should Chevy do
Nothing against Lowry or Copp but sometimes this loyalty monicker drives me
Yes Copp could benefit from being saddled with the Lion & KFC. ...... who wouldn?t
Threw Danault out their cuz he?s inexpensive & has quite good numbers

Really can?t see the Habs interested in Buff but ....... wanted others to fire feedback


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 20, 2020, 04:47:48 PM
Big Buff on the trading block. I think this a much better move for the Jet's then just letting him walk with a load of money.

I can't see anyone trading for Buff.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 20, 2020, 05:03:06 PM
Jets are floatingteh tade idea, no one want to pick him up at that price, even if it is afor a 7th rounder, you still have to honour the contract, and even if it LTIR, it still is cash, and even if it is back end cash below the cap hit, it is still cash.

Every team knows that he will be a free agent soon enough, he and the Jets will terminate his deal.  Why give up any asset and lock into a big SMS deal? 

Is Chevy giving teams the ability to talk to him?  Or him the ability to shop a deal?  I can't see him doing that...



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 20, 2020, 05:13:54 PM
Jets are floatingteh tade idea, no one want to pick him up at that price, even if it is afor a 7th rounder, you still have to honour the contract, and even if it LTIR, it still is cash, and even if it is back end cash below the cap hit, it is still cash.

Every team knows that he will be a free agent soon enough, he and the Jets will terminate his deal.  Why give up any asset and lock into a big SMS deal? 

Is Chevy giving teams the ability to talk to him?  Or him the ability to shop a deal?  I can't see him doing that...



I'm not sure what the rules are in the nhl, but why wouldn't he if the goal is to unload the contract?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 20, 2020, 06:34:56 PM
Jets are floatingteh tade idea, no one want to pick him up at that price, even if it is afor a 7th rounder, you still have to honour the contract, and even if it LTIR, it still is cash, and even if it is back end cash below the cap hit, it is still cash.

Every team knows that he will be a free agent soon enough, he and the Jets will terminate his deal.  Why give up any asset and lock into a big SMS deal? 

Is Chevy giving teams the ability to talk to him?  Or him the ability to shop a deal?  I can't see him doing that...



To secure him. If he becomes a FA before a trade, he can go anywhere. If he is traded, you get him.

I don't know the market conditions for a trade. I don't blame Chevy for trying, and good for him if he gets something. If Buff is ready and able to play at any point between now and the end of his contract in 2021, then you have a top Dman who brings something to the game no one else does. If he doesn't show any commitment to playing or getting into shape, you get a dud. Definitely a risk-reward measure.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 20, 2020, 06:47:56 PM
I going to stick with the Hockey Insiders who are saying there will be a few teams interested in Buff.

The 2020 playoff run would cost a team roughly 1.8M if they signed Buff now. This would be a steal for a rental player like Buff for a Cup run.. Now could Buff get into game shape for the playoffs.

For 2020/21 at 7.5mil, he is very reasonable if he wants to play. If he doesn't and retires it does hurt the teams salary cap.

I think the big question is what is Buff worth and what do we need.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 20, 2020, 06:52:37 PM
To secure him. If he becomes a FA before a trade, he can go anywhere. If he is traded, you get him.

I don't know the market conditions for a trade. I don't blame Chevy for trying, and good for him if he gets something. If Buff is ready and able to play at any point between now and the end of his contract in 2021, then you have a top Dman who brings something to the game no one else does. If he doesn't show any commitment to playing or getting into shape, you get a dud. Definitely a risk-reward measure.

I heard a good comparison at the gym today. Buff is to the NHL like Willie is to the CFL. Two very dominant players.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 20, 2020, 09:04:38 PM
I heard a good comparison at the gym today. Buff is to the NHL like Willie is to the CFL. Two very dominate players.

Dominant.

Yes, I agree.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 20, 2020, 10:03:37 PM
It looks like MS55 has had a little drama going on in his life lately.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 21, 2020, 02:28:05 AM
Nice Victory ..... happy for Brozilla who was steady ...... Sheif's hatty & Morrissey's assist (personal greed) is great for my Pool
Really liked Poolman's hit on Tkachuk late in the 3rd


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 21, 2020, 03:19:59 AM
Nice to this team playing well. Very Nice to see MS55 break out of his 12 games scoring slump.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 21, 2020, 01:14:26 PM
Nice to this team playing well. Very Nice to see MS55 break out of his 12 games scoring slump.

And how!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 21, 2020, 09:22:14 PM
Really. Cody Eakin for a 4th round pick or a 3rd round pick if we make the playoffs.. Cap hit just under 4m. Do we really need Cody Eakin?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 21, 2020, 10:33:27 PM
Well at least it didn't cost much to get this young 28 yr old pending UFA Winnipeger, who is on the back end of a $3.8M contract.
...... had a series of injuries in 2019 that kept him out of the lineup for 17 games but "should" help improve our 4th line & overall compete.

Long range he will probably beat out Storie & end up with, presently injured Lowry & Perrault.  Course the season may not hold an injury free situation going forward.
.......  Chibisov is being sent back to the Moose.
NOTED: that Vegas now has only 11 forwards on present Cap Friendly roster
....... most likely a call up is on the way but I look to Vegas to make a significant trade for a forward now that they have over $6.M in cap space.

Sure hope a bonafide, experienced, puck moving Dman can show up in Jet colours still.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 21, 2020, 10:54:55 PM
To secure him. If he becomes a FA before a trade, he can go anywhere. If he is traded, you get him.

I don't know the market conditions for a trade. I don't blame Chevy for trying, and good for him if he gets something. If Buff is ready and able to play at any point between now and the end of his contract in 2021, then you have a top Dman who brings something to the game no one else does. If he doesn't show any commitment to playing or getting into shape, you get a dud. Definitely a risk-reward measure.

Sure, you secure him, at $8mil/yr cap hit.  Maybe not as much actual cash, but the cap hit exists on this deal.  If you wait for the contract termination, I'm sure his price tag will be the same or less than the cash he's presently due, and a much reduced cap hit...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 22, 2020, 03:35:18 PM
Sure, you secure him, at $8mil/yr cap hit.  Maybe not as much actual cash, but the cap hit exists on this deal.  If you wait for the contract termination, I'm sure his price tag will be the same or less than the cash he's presently due, and a much reduced cap hit...

Yes, but there's no guarantee he would go to your team if you're a team who really wants him. It's about getting your guy. Throw in the fact that trade deadline time/nearing playoffs, teams pay big time for a little extra help.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 22, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
I've always liked Eakin so I think this is a good trade. Alleviates the Little absence. We paid very little for him (compared to e.g. Hayes last year who also didn't do much) so between him and DeMelo, Chevy has done all he reasonably needs to do to give us a boost and try to make a playoff push. This isn't a go-all-in year, so I'm good with these medial moves.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 22, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
I like the Eakins trade. And the team didn't give up a whole heck of a lot, which is good.

A crummy start really hooped the road team today. A point at least would've been nice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2020, 12:08:18 AM
Not a good weekend for this team. Blegh.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 24, 2020, 04:54:16 AM
Oh my how awful it can & does feel when we lose.
Morrissey left during warmup with a reported LBI ..... can?t afford him out of lineup
Really felt disappointed for Rosy not being able to continue at center with Harkins & Appleton
There was some great moments for Harkins today but felt underwhelmed with some performances

Does anyone else scratch their heads when Copp is the extra skater vs Ehlers ????

Hopefully Chevy wows us with some trade deadline moves ....... Jets win their first Stanley Cup


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 24, 2020, 01:24:17 PM
Oh my how awful it can & does feel when we lose.
Morrissey left during warmup with a reported LBI ..... can?t afford him out of lineup
Really felt disappointed for Rosy not being able to continue at center with Harkins & Appleton
There was some great moments for Harkins today but felt underwhelmed with some performances

Does anyone else scratch their heads when Copp is the extra skater vs Ehlers ????

Hopefully Chevy wows us with some trade deadline moves
....... Jets win their first Stanley Cup


But at what cost? We can't give up first rounders every year...

Agreed this weekend sucked. Couldn't get a **** point. So much for our win streak going into the weekend...ugh


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 24, 2020, 02:56:56 PM
At what cost is certainly a big thing but perhaps it?s time for Chevy to go outside the box
By that I mean,  trade a fan favourite or asset from the minors seperate or in a combo of sort

Perhaps an unsigned Dylan Samberg needs to be pkg?d with a Top 9 Jet forward


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2020, 03:25:36 PM
It isn't "time" for him to do anything. The 2019-20 Jets are a bubble team at best (see 2014-15) and I can't see him making a trade like he did that season. There just isn't a need like there was back then, as evidenced by his activity thus far. Maybe another middling trade is in the cards prior to the deadline later today.

Looks like it's confirmed Byfuglien won't play this season, so I'm curious how his contract termination goes. It'd be nice to see an end to this nonsense already.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 24, 2020, 04:01:51 PM
Yeah this is just not an all-in year. A move here or there (like we've done with DeMelo and Eakin) are fine and are helpful but I don't expect to do anything more. What I do expect is for Chevy to fix what is wrong with this team in the off-season and then hopefully return to our previous cup-contending form this fall.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 24, 2020, 04:07:35 PM
It isn?t ?time? cuz nothing much to positive happened to address the Buff issue a lot earlier
Or not Time yet as Chiarot or Myers never got replaced while Buff?s spot was in limbo
Trouba for Pionk has been good for the Jets. Of late we picked up serviceable, steady DeMelo.

Is it the D position patch work job & the injuries have some mentally accepting ?Not this year?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 24, 2020, 04:19:23 PM
It isn?t ?time? cuz nothing much to positive happened to address the Buff issue a lot earlier
Or not Time yet as Chiarot or Myers never got replaced while Buff?s spot was in limbo
Trouba for Pionk has been good for the Jets. Of late we picked up serviceable, steady DeMelo.

Is it the D position patch work job & the injuries have some mentally accepting ?Not this year?

Yes


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2020, 04:28:40 PM
It's a combination of everything. Depleted blue line since the off-season, injuries, Byfuglien's situation, the team's position in the standings... This team isn't a contender by any stretch of the imagination and they're pretty much a coin flip to get a wildcard spot. Even that'll be a dogfight likely not determined until the final week of the season.

In the event they do make the playoffs, I can't see them winning a round with this roster. AFAIC, it's next season territory. Cheveldayoff will have ample cap space with which to work and make the necessary moves to get this team back to form.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 24, 2020, 05:33:08 PM
If we do just get in but don?t get past the 1st Rd ....... what is the speculation as why that result is expected

For me ..... it?s because Pionk is the only Dman that can be depended on to aggressively try to get the puck up the ice ..... Morrissey seems reluctant & the rest are basic stay at home


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2020, 07:27:05 PM
It's pretty clear, IMO: an incomplete roster, injuries, lousy possession stats, poor special teams, and an overall mediocre 200 ft. game. It's not really speculation when the numbers reflect exactly what's ailing the Jets this season. I just can't see them beating any team currently in the top divisional spots in a seven-game series.

As for the blue line itself, Morrissey lost his pairing partner and now has to play with comparatively mediocre replacements. Fans here can crap on Trouba all they want but the kid is a proven, physical, sound stay-at-home defenseman. He and Morrissey were very, very good together and his departure from that top pairing has been significant. Poolman or Kulikov isn't a top pairing D and I don't think Pionk and Morrissey complement each other the same way Trouba and Morrissey did.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 24, 2020, 07:47:15 PM
and the season rolls on for the Jets .... cheering for them to be a successful as possible


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 25, 2020, 06:18:25 AM
It's pretty clear, IMO: an incomplete roster, injuries, lousy possession stats, poor special teams, and an overall mediocre 200 ft. game. It's not really speculation when the numbers reflect exactly what's ailing the Jets this season. I just can't see them beating any team currently in the top divisional spots in a seven-game series.

As for the blue line itself, Morrissey lost his pairing partner and now has to play with comparatively mediocre replacements. Fans here can crap on Trouba all they want but the kid is a proven, physical, sound stay-at-home defenseman. He and Morrissey were very, very good together and his departure from that top pairing has been significant. Poolman or Kulikov isn't a top pairing D and I don't think Pionk and Morrissey complement each other the same way Trouba and Morrissey did.


Maybe 4 teams in the NHL have a complete roster. But most are no different then ours. This is why so many teams are so close.

I watched all day today and many think Trouba will be moved in the offseason. Not because hes not good...   its because hes just not good enough to be the guy. We would be no better if Trouba was here.

It sucks how thing have gone with our D....  no doubt about it.

We wont win a Cup this year and may not make the playoffs.

We dont suck and we wont suck as we still have many really good players coming up and will fill the roles we need filled and still have the core guys.

I look at it this way......   we lost all our D and could have went nuts to sign FAs and make trades to fix it but we stood our ground on the players drafted.

Yes we did make some trades and we signed some guys to help but we for the most part kept our young guys on the Moose and in the lineup and thats the idea.

Trading Lowry, Copp, Niku,Poolman  Is jus overall a stupid move IMO.

The top teams are built around players like this. Most havent heard of Hawk but here he is on the first line.

Keep building the team from with what you draft and it will come.

 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 25, 2020, 01:53:57 PM

Maybe 4 teams in the NHL have a complete roster. But most are no different then ours. This is why so many teams are so close.

I watched all day today and many think Trouba will be moved in the offseason. Not because hes not good...   its because hes just not good enough to be the guy. We would be no better if Trouba was here.

It sucks how thing have gone with our D....  no doubt about it.

We wont win a Cup this year and may not make the playoffs.

We dont suck and we wont suck as we still have many really good players coming up and will fill the roles we need filled and still have the core guys.

I look at it this way......   we lost all our D and could have went nuts to sign FAs and make trades to fix it but we stood our ground on the players drafted.

Yes we did make some trades and we signed some guys to help but we for the most part kept our young guys on the Moose and in the lineup and thats the idea.

Trading Lowry, Copp, Niku,Poolman  Is jus overall a stupid move IMO.

The top teams are built around players like this. Most havent heard of Hawk but here he is on the first line.

Keep building the team from with what you draft and it will come.

I don't even know what to make of this reply.

There are more than four "complete" rosters in the NHL.

The Jets' blue line took a serious hit in the off-season and that's translated into an inferior overall team. That's not even up for debate, so your claim Trouba wouldn't help this team is false. No differently than Myers, Chiarot, or Byfuglien would help.

And yes, the Jets do suck this year. That's evidenced by their inconsistent play, poor possession statistics, and pretty awful special teams. Not to mention their place in the standings as they bite and claw for a wildcard spot.

What do you mean the team stood its ground? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 25, 2020, 08:58:05 PM
I don't even know what to make of this reply.

There are more than four "complete" rosters in the NHL.

The Jets' blue line took a serious hit in the off-season and that's translated into an inferior overall team. That's not even up for debate, so your claim Trouba wouldn't help this team is false. No differently than Myers, Chiarot, or Byfuglien would help.

And yes, the Jets do suck this year. That's evidenced by their inconsistent play, poor possession statistics, and pretty awful special teams. Not to mention their place in the standings as they bite and claw for a wildcard spot.

What do you mean the team stood its ground? ???


Ok   Maybe 6 teams.... Boston, Caps, Tampa, Pitts, Blues and the Aves. Point is pretty much every team has holes.

If you think Trouba or any one of the Dmen you mentioned being here would have put us in a better place this year your dreaming. We would be exactly where we are and is why they didnt go make a huge trade all year. One guy is not going to make a huge diff in the overall team.

I was at home all day and watched all the hockey experts say that The Jets are better off not making a move and losing picks n prospects for 1 or 2 players that wont have any change on where we are.

I tend to agree.

In this days NHL teams have up n down years but the ones that survive are the ones that keep their cool and keep the core of the team and trust who you draft and develop. Pitts didnt even make the playoffs last year...   Tampa got backhanded out of the playoffs.  Do they suck?

What i mean by they stood their ground is they pretty much said to they players is we have trust in you to do the job. They arnt giving up on the players coming up.

Look at guys like Conner, Appleton and this year Harkins... This is what and how to build a strong team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 25, 2020, 11:19:51 PM
Ovi gonna feast tonight...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 26, 2020, 03:54:39 AM
The Jet's showed a lot of grit tonight. Down 3 on the road and battle back. To bad OT didn't go our way.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on February 26, 2020, 12:34:29 PM
The amount of injuries to the defense is beyond ridiculous already! Niku was all ready to come into last night?s  game and then boom, injured from an off-ice incident. The fact that the Jets are still within striking range of a wildcard spot is simply a miracle! They may squeak in for a playoff spot but it will be short-lived. I fully expect Chevy to make some pretty big additions to the D during free agency. Take Buff and Kulikov?s money and he can sign 2-3 solid players. With the D patched up for next year, I think the team will be back into the conversation as contenders.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 26, 2020, 12:57:44 PM
The amount of injuries to the defense is beyond ridiculous already! Niku was all ready to come into last night?s  game and then boom, injured from an off-ice incident. The fact that the Jets are still within striking range of a wildcard spot is simply a miracle! They may squeak in for a playoff spot but it will be short-lived. I fully expect Chevy to make some pretty big additions to the D during free agency. Take Buff and Kulikov?s money and he can sign 2-3 solid players. With the D patched up for next year, I think the team will be back into the conversation as contenders.

Good chance Heinola joins the big club next year too. Apparently Chevy had to pry him away from Maurice with a crow bar. I remember being very excited with his early play and am excited for him as a roster player.

Morrisey-Big Fish
Pionk- Heinola
Niku-Poolman

I'm happy to keep Sbisa around as a vet press box guy. Note, I didn't pick that lineup based on RH/LH so the combinations can be flipped around to accommodate that I guess.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2020, 01:55:53 PM
Ok   Maybe 6 teams.... Boston, Caps, Tampa, Pitts, Blues and the Aves. Point is pretty much every team has holes.

If you think Trouba or any one of the Dmen you mentioned being here would have put us in a better place this year your dreaming. We would be exactly where we are and is why they didnt go make a huge trade all year. One guy is not going to make a huge diff in the overall team.

So, more than four teams. I'd put the Stars in there, too. Perhaps even the Knights.

And yes, I maintain one of either Trouba, Byfuglien, Chiarot, or Myers still on the blue line would make a difference. Your assertion the team didn't make any moves out of indifference is nonsense. The Byfuglien situation handcuffed the team because of the cap implications in play. Had Byfuglien been more upfront about his status earlier on, Cheveldayoff could've mitigated the damage and potentially retained a defenseman or two.

It's a bit preposterous you think this team would be exactly where it is now with even a marginally improved blue line. The D corps was crippled from the losses and that bears out in not only the statistics, but the eye test of how this team plays now. Their puck movement from the defensive zone is terrible, their possession stinks, and the PK is brutal. You can't lose four defensemen, replace them with mediocre pieces, and expect success.

Good chance Heinola joins the big club next year too. Apparently Chevy had to pry him away from Maurice with a crow bar. I remember being very excited with his early play and am excited for him as a roster player.

Morrisey-Big Fish
Pionk- Heinola
Niku-Poolman

I'm happy to keep Sbisa around as a vet press box guy. Note, I didn't pick that lineup based on RH/LH so the combinations can be flipped around to accommodate that I guess.

I'd love to see the Jets make a play for Hamonic in free agency, permitted it's reasonable. There are going to be several nice sized blue liners come July 1, so the team should be able to beef up the back end for the 2020-21 season.

There's also Samberg in the pipeline, too. I think he finishes school this year, so perhaps he'll be ready to go pro.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 27, 2020, 03:01:47 AM
So, more than four teams. I'd put the Stars in there, too. Perhaps even the Knights.

And yes, I maintain one of either Trouba, Byfuglien, Chiarot, or Myers still on the blue line would make a difference. Your assertion the team didn't make any moves out of indifference is nonsense. The Byfuglien situation handcuffed the team because of the cap implications in play. Had Byfuglien been more upfront about his status earlier on, Cheveldayoff could've mitigated the damage and potentially retained a defenseman or two.

It's a bit preposterous you think this team would be exactly where it is now with even a marginally improved blue line. The D corps was crippled from the losses and that bears out in not only the statistics, but the eye test of how this team plays now. Their puck movement from the defensive zone is terrible, their possession stinks, and the PK is brutal. You can't lose four defensemen, replace them with mediocre pieces, and expect success.

I'd love to see the Jets make a play for Hamonic in free agency, permitted it's reasonable. There are going to be several nice sized blue liners come July 1, so the team should be able to beef up the back end for the 2020-21 season.

There's also Samberg in the pipeline, too. I think he finishes school this year, so perhaps he'll be ready to go pro.


Well heres the thing....  like i said n watched  Just about every guy on TSN or SN have said the same thing.

I guess they know nothing.

I posted what they all pretty much said including Chevy.   I said i agree.  Trading huge for 1 guy will do nothing. Not 1 of them will change where we are at.

Its not one guy who says it...  its many ppl in hockey that say it.

I guess you are smarter to how to run a NHL team?

The Jets dont suck....  they are a team that lost alot and can still hold water.

Your claim they suck is whats nonsense 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2020, 01:57:12 PM

Well heres the thing....  like i said n watched  Just about every guy on TSN or SN have said the same thing.

I guess they know nothing.

I posted what they all pretty much said including Chevy.   I said i agree.  Trading huge for 1 guy will do nothing. Not 1 of them will change where we are at.

Its not one guy who says it...  its many ppl in hockey that say it.

I guess you are smarter to how to run a NHL team?

The Jets dont suck....  they are a team that lost alot and can still hold water.

Your claim they suck is whats nonsense 

Cool story. Not sure what's got you so grouchy and sensitive but try and cool off a bit before you log in next time. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2020, 02:41:57 PM
Jets recall D Nelson Nogier. Sounds like Niku could be out for a while. Still no news on Morrissey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 27, 2020, 03:18:36 PM
Jets recall D Nelson Nogier. Sounds like Niku could be out for a while. Still no news on Morrissey.

Jeebus.

We are icing the frickin Manitoba Moose


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2020, 03:39:28 PM
Jeebus.

We are icing the frickin Manitoba Moose

It's not looking too good in the hopes of making a push, especially with Morrissey's status up in the air.

I'm not sure what to make of Nogier, either. He's still somewhat young but his AHL stats are a bit meh.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 27, 2020, 05:43:58 PM
Jeebus.

We are icing the frickin Manitoba Moose

I've honestly been ready to lean into the rebuild for a while now.

We're clearly not a contender even if we were able to push into a play off spot, so might as well take the opportunity to ice some more kids. Especially on defence.

There's definitely an argument for pushing for wins and some play off experience, but I'm just hoping we're able to make some moves in the off season and push for #1 in the central next season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 27, 2020, 05:58:49 PM
I am pretty sure we are not going to be getting into a rebuild. A couple of top 4 men in FA would go a long way to fixing this team. Some size back there would also be a good thing. Getting a healthy BL18 back next year would be a big plus.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 27, 2020, 10:35:01 PM
I am pretty sure we are not going to be getting into a rebuild. A couple of top 4 men in FA would go a long way to fixing this team. Some size back there would also be a good thing. Getting a healthy BL18 back next year would be a big plus.

I mean this year has been our rebuild year - forced on us by the exodus of dmen.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 28, 2020, 02:32:32 AM
Jets arnt horrible 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 28, 2020, 03:24:36 AM
Nice win, hope PL29 is okay. Anytime you can shut down the great 8, it's a good night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 28, 2020, 03:48:27 AM
Y'see, if the Jets played like they did tonight consistently, they would be a top team. Between the goaltending, offensive prowess, and overall grit and determination of everyone, we looked 'complete' tonight. The problem is that we only do it every once in a while. Case-in-point: the standings.

Hoping we see more of this in the home stretch to keep playoff hope alive.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 28, 2020, 03:53:43 AM
Nice win tonight. Hellebuyck made some beauty saves. Fingers crossed Laine will be good to go sooner than later.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 28, 2020, 04:57:53 PM
C. J. Suess is flying with the team to Edmonton as I imagine Laine's health is still questionable.

very nice team game last night ....... saw a lot of Caps passes broken up/intercepted with some very successful anticipation by Jet players.

HellB was a super star again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 28, 2020, 05:11:06 PM
C. J. Suess is flying with the team to Edmonton as I imagine Laine's health is still questionable.

very nice team game last night ....... saw a lot of Caps passes broken up/intercepted with some very successful anticipation by Jet players.

HellB was a super star again.

Didn't put 2 and 2 together on that one, but it makes sense.

Hopefully it's just a precautionary move.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 29, 2020, 05:23:19 PM
Has there been any word on PL29.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 29, 2020, 05:28:47 PM
Has there been any word on PL29.


Nothing broken and is day to day Maurice said yesterday


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 29, 2020, 08:54:09 PM
Jets arnt horrible 

They are who I thought they would be...check out page 1 of this thread. 

They didn't improve in the off season so this is where we stand...Hellybuck has saved them from being completely out of the playoff picture. 

You will not tangibly get better just through developing players alone when you have chunks of talent leave your team...you can tread water and stay afloat but getting better needs to have that talent replaced. 

Let's see what Chevy can get done this off season...the team last year and the team this year are way worse than the team that went deep in the playoffs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 01, 2020, 02:48:19 AM
They are who I thought they would be...check out page 1 of this thread. 

They didn't improve in the off season so this is where we stand...Hellybuck has saved them from being completely out of the playoff picture. 

You will not tangibly get better just through developing players alone when you have chunks of talent leave your team...you can tread water and stay afloat but getting better needs to have that talent replaced. 

Let's see what Chevy can get done this off season...the team last year and the team this year are way worse than the team that went deep in the playoffs.


I doubt any team ever lost a whole D like we did can hold ground as we have.

Like i repeated many in Hockey have said we have done really good considered what we lost.

We are better off keeping who we draft then we are trading them away for one guy.

You keep your picks n prospects in our situation 
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 01, 2020, 07:02:57 PM
They are who I thought they would be...check out page 1 of this thread. 

They didn't improve in the off season so this is where we stand...Hellybuck has saved them from being completely out of the playoff picture. 

You will not tangibly get better just through developing players alone when you have chunks of talent leave your team...you can tread water and stay afloat but getting better needs to have that talent replaced. 

Let's see what Chevy can get done this off season...the team last year and the team this year are way worse than the team that went deep in the playoffs.

They did the opposite of improve. Hellebuyck's Vezina calibre play and a stellar month of November are why this team is still in a position to fight for a WC spot.

Granted, few GMs, if none at all, could've really done anything when you consider all that has happened, and Cheveldayoff doesn't seem like the type to mortage away the future. It just is what it is at this point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 01, 2020, 07:21:31 PM
PP really let us down last night. I thought other then that we played a pretty good game. It also sounds like a number of players are close to coming back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 01, 2020, 07:31:23 PM
PP really let us down last night. I thought other then that we played a pretty good game. It also sounds like a number of players are close to coming back.

Special teams across the board has been a letdown for most the season.

If the Jets do hope to make a push for a post-season berth, getting back key players is going to be huge for that. Should be an interesting home stretch!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 01, 2020, 08:10:24 PM
Felt it was a very gooooooood effort last night & the Jets deserved a better fate.
That being said ...... most definitely the PP has to score & the PK has to defend flawlessly ........ fantasy over ...... Jets lose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 02, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
You usually don't need to look at the score to see who won when the shots are 41-22. The Jets played very well but not better than Mike Smith.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 06, 2020, 06:19:16 PM
Perrault is back in the lineup & Bourque takes a seat in the press box .......... Bourque hustled & banged a lot but offered little to no offense.
The 4th line may get a few more chances with Shore, Appleton with Perrault.  Do hope Harkins keeps looking good & doesn't give PM a chance to move Perr up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 06, 2020, 08:40:43 PM
Just noticed that there were no comments on the Sabres game. I guess zero Bomber news lately has driven away traffic. Fair enough.

Anyway, great effort. My opinion of this team goes from day to night each game depending on a win or loss. With the amount of inconsistency we've dealt with all year, if we suffer a loss it feels like the sky is falling, and if we win my mind irrationally goes to squeaking in the playoffs and then going on a tear like Carolina or Colorado last year.

...So I'm planning the parade!

In all seriousness, a convincing win over Vegas tonight would be a very good sign and reason for optimism in the last month of regular season hockey...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2020, 10:28:21 PM
Just noticed that there were no comments on the Sabres game. I guess zero Bomber news lately has driven away traffic. Fair enough.

Anyway, great effort. My opinion of this team goes from day to night each game depending on a win or loss. With the amount of inconsistency we've dealt with all year, if we suffer a loss it feels like the sky is falling, and if we win my mind irrationally goes to squeaking in the playoffs and then going on a tear like Carolina or Colorado last year.

...So I'm planning the parade!

In all seriousness, a convincing win over Vegas tonight would be a very good sign and reason for optimism in the last month of regular season hockey...



I agree.

From the beginning of the year we lost our D.

We have had a ton of injured players. So much of the year has been plug n play.

Many blame Chevy for not going to get a top 4 dman.

Yet we remain in a playoff race.

We wont win The Cup.  But what The Jets have shown is what we have drafted has kept the team competitive. We are up n down because the plug n play of players. We run the same systems with the Moose and that helps our guys when they come up.

We have seen some good young prospects ...  Many.  Our trading a few for one will not make a difference in where we are now. We are better off keeping this system and developing the kids. As these kids have kept us in this.   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 07, 2020, 04:33:19 PM
Felt the hockey Gods were wearing a Jet jersey last night ....... if a couple of the iron hits by Vegas & great position saves by HellB had gone in ......
this may have been 5 - 5 going into the final minutes ...... but alas a super victory was accomplished.
Noted that Vegas only Gave the puck Away 5 times (between 2 players) while the Jets totaled 13 GA's. Felt that was due to the pressure that Vegas exerted in the 2nd period.
On the plus side Vegas had only 2 Takeaways whereas the Jet players totaled 9

 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2020, 01:50:36 AM
Huge comeback win tonight. Hellebuyck had another monstrous night. Nice to see Eakins get his first as a Jet, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Stretch on March 10, 2020, 10:09:44 AM
The Jets need to stop falling behind in the first period so much. My heart can't take it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 10, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
Was very relieved when the Jets completed the comeback.       HellB was so solid again & glad to see Eakins hit the back of the net
Found it interesting that 6 Jet forwards were on the ice for less than 12 minutes (4 less than 11 mins) ...... which surprisingly included Ehlers at 11:38 & Eakins at 11:36.

Expecting these next 3 road games to be nail biters ...... keeping my Nitro spray close  ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 10, 2020, 07:18:46 PM
Lowry gave the Jet's a big spark with that hit and then the fight. Adam is back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 12, 2020, 02:28:26 AM
Another big win for the Jets! Hellebuyck was marvelous again (except for one mishandled puck). Connor with two and the eventual GWG.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 12, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
NP4 had a very good game. Taking that puck off of the goal line was a very big play. Very big win.

I really like our line up right now. This team is playing some very good hockey right now. Nice to be healthy again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jesse on March 12, 2020, 06:04:39 PM
Annnnnnnnnnnd the season is suspended.

Right when we're getting in a groove at the right time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 12, 2020, 07:19:02 PM
Annnnnnnnnnnd the season is suspended.

Right when we're getting in a groove at the right time.

Sucks to see sports come to a grinding halt but it is what it is. It'll be interesting to see what happens and if the season will resume at some point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 13, 2020, 08:54:37 PM
Annnnnnnnnnnd the season is suspended paused.

Right when we're getting in a groove at the right time.

I really like the NHL's choice of words... "paused" is so much better than cancelled or suspended


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 23, 2020, 06:24:30 PM
So, EA and THN have teamed up to do a simulated continuation of the season. Here are the scores and standings from last night's action: https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-ovechkin-hat-trick-downs-penguins-jets-snaps-stars-streak (https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-ovechkin-hat-trick-downs-penguins-jets-snaps-stars-streak)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 23, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
So, EA and THN have teamed up to do a simulated continuation of the season. Here are the scores and standings from last night's action: https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-ovechkin-hat-trick-downs-penguins-jets-snaps-stars-streak (https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-ovechkin-hat-trick-downs-penguins-jets-snaps-stars-streak)

Good to hear. Look to be a lock for a wild card spot.

Hoping for a solid playoff run. Anyone going to be hitting up the White Out parties next month? Beer is on me.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2020, 12:57:40 PM
Good to hear. Look to be a lock for a wild card spot.

Hoping for a solid playoff run. Anyone going to be hitting up the White Out parties next month? Beer is on me.

I miss hockey! I was so desperate for hockey I drove by Buffalo Wild Wings yesterday just to boo all three teams.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 24, 2020, 01:36:04 PM
I miss hockey! I was so desperate for hockey I drove by Buffalo Wild Wings yesterday just to boo all three teams.

Lmao! I saw those memes, too.

I flew to Iraq to boo the Oilers, but the rigs were all bombed, so I booed the Flames

I went to the airport to boo the Flyers, but since it was empty, I booed the Jets


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2020, 01:50:19 PM
Lmao! I saw those memes, too.

I flew to Iraq to boo the Oilers, but the rigs were all bombed, so I booed the Flames

I went to the airport to boo the Flyers, but since it was empty, I booed the Jets

LOL :D

If only the trees were further along. We could all go outside and boo the Leafs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on March 24, 2020, 02:32:10 PM
Every night, as long as there are no clouds, I go out and boo the Stars.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 07, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Some good Jets news today: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-sign-defenceman-dylan-samberg-to-a-three-year-entry-level-contract/c-316540326 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-sign-defenceman-dylan-samberg-to-a-three-year-entry-level-contract/c-316540326)

This is going to be a nice addition to the back end.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 07, 2020, 04:24:29 PM
This is actually huge. I thought Samberg was going to be a bust pick (not lack of talent, but indications suggested he would never sign with us)

This is going to go a very long way in rebuilding our D core going into next year. Seriously optimistic news.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 07, 2020, 07:59:40 PM
Was being pessimistic earlier so this is a terrific relief to hear. All indications are that this young athlete should have a real solid career ....... Yahoo Chevy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 17, 2020, 03:00:55 PM
The writing has been on the wall for some time but it's official now: Byfuglien is no longer a Jet.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 21, 2020, 01:48:56 PM
Relive some classic games in recent Jets history: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-fans-can-relive-top-games-on-nhl-live-tsn3-and-sportsnet/c-316671772 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-fans-can-relive-top-games-on-nhl-live-tsn3-and-sportsnet/c-316671772)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 23, 2020, 09:15:11 PM
Relive some classic games in recent Jets history: https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-fans-can-relive-top-games-on-nhl-live-tsn3-and-sportsnet/c-316671772 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-fans-can-relive-top-games-on-nhl-live-tsn3-and-sportsnet/c-316671772)
wow thanks man


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 30, 2020, 04:04:41 PM
To get all the players together, the Jet's will probably have to move there TC to an American city. Doesn't seem like we are opening the borders anytime soon.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2020, 01:44:29 PM
The Jets inked their 2018 fifth rounder, defenceman Declan Chisholm, to an ELC yesterday: https://www.tsn.ca/jets-sign-defenceman-declan-chisholm-to-three-year-entry-level-contract-1.1481887 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-sign-defenceman-declan-chisholm-to-three-year-entry-level-contract-1.1481887)

The 6'1", 195 lb. LH blue liner recently completed his fourth season with the OHL's Peterborough Petes. He compiled 13 goals and 56 apples for a career high in points (69).

Could be a nice addition to the left side of the blue line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 04, 2020, 12:55:02 AM
we can only hope that this talent can ripen into a terrific Jet in the future.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2019/2020 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 10, 2020, 04:19:05 PM
US/Canada border shut down until the end of July now. Not looking good.