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Title: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Norlorne Dr. on June 09, 2019, 10:34:42 AM
Not only are these boys local, but they are both Oak Park alumni.  This has gotta be a first.  Two graduates of the same high school rostered as the number 1 and number 2 running backs.  LOVE IT.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 09, 2019, 10:40:46 AM
Yup, as a lifelong Charleswooder it makes me proud too.  I'm pretty sure during TC/PS I heard about another guy from Oak Park somewhere in the CFL, but can't remember who.

Oliveira over Simonise is the big surprise of the cuts, and I'm not sure Oliveira showed me anything in PS to justify it.  But the kid is young and maybe they see something in him.  I wonder if he'll ever dress, or just be a PR guy this year.  Be nice to see him get some reps in garbage time.  And we're such a good team this year that I expect lots of GT in lots of games!  :o :D

Go Winnipeg guys!  Go Oak Parkies!


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Norlorne Dr. on June 09, 2019, 10:50:48 AM
Yup, as a lifelong Charleswooder it makes me proud too.  I'm pretty sure during TC/PS I heard about another guy from Oak Park somewhere in the CFL, but can't remember who.

Oliveira over Simonise is the big surprise of the cuts, and I'm not sure Oliveira showed me anything in PS to justify it.  But the kid is young and maybe they see something in him.  I wonder if he'll ever dress, or just be a PR guy this year.  Be nice to see him get some reps in garbage time.  And we're such a good team this year that I expect lots of GT in lots of games!  :o :D

Go Winnipeg guys!  Go Oak Parkies!


I am super excited to see what Brady can do this year too.  He ran for almost 3000 yards with North Dakota, and 22 touchdowns.  I think he can make some noise given the opportunity.

Not sure if you knew this, but Nic Demski is also a local Charleswood - Oak Park boy.  He played for the Broncos, and Oak Park Raiders.



Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: PurpleReign on June 09, 2019, 11:25:24 AM
I am super excited to see what Brady can do this year too.  He ran for almost 3000 yards with North Dakota, and 22 touchdowns.  I think he can make some noise given the opportunity.

Not sure if you knew this, but Nic Demski is also a local Charleswood - Oak Park boy.  He played for the Broncos, and Oak Park Raiders.



You bring up Charleswood and the Bronco, so many memories.  That?s my old club where I coached from 2005 to 2012. I am also excited to see Brady this year as he is an exceptional athlete.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Norlorne Dr. on June 09, 2019, 12:25:40 PM
You bring up Charleswood and the Bronco, so many memories.  That?s my old club where I coached from 2005 to 2012. I am also excited to see Brady this year as he is an exceptional athlete.

The Broncos were on hiatus for a period when I was growing up.  Before I went to high school and played for Oak Park, I was forced to play for the St. James Rods because the Charleswood Broncos stopped competing for several years (mid 90s) before returning.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: RebusRankin on June 09, 2019, 12:48:58 PM
Hey, we have to be the first CFL team in decades to not have an american rb on the roster.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: blue_or_die on June 09, 2019, 02:40:19 PM
Yup, as a lifelong Charleswooder it makes me proud too.  I'm pretty sure during TC/PS I heard about another guy from Oak Park somewhere in the CFL, but can't remember who.

Oliveira over Simonise is the big surprise of the cuts, and I'm not sure Oliveira showed me anything in PS to justify it.  But the kid is young and maybe they see something in him.  I wonder if he'll ever dress, or just be a PR guy this year.  Be nice to see him get some reps in garbage time.  And we're such a good team this year that I expect lots of GT in lots of games!  :o :D

Go Winnipeg guys!  Go Oak Parkies!


We are clearly committed to developing him, or at least giving him a shot. To make the team and PR our previous backup (Augustine) in his favour speaks volumes and indicates our intention to groom him. He will absolutely dress every game and take the odd snap.

As mentioned, Augustine accepted a PR spot so it's safe to say Brady will be on the AR for as long as he is able to prove his worthiness to be there.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: blueraid on June 09, 2019, 03:35:09 PM
I'm predicting right now Brady Oliveira ...next Charles Roberts....Just give this kid the reps. and time and when Harris hangs em up....voila..


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Jesse on June 09, 2019, 03:44:04 PM
I'm predicting right now Brady Oliveira ...next Charles Roberts....Just give this kid the reps. and time and when Harris hangs em up....voila..

Seems like a ridiculous prediction. In every sense.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: DM83 on June 09, 2019, 04:45:23 PM
Why do you hate. Oak Park?


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 09, 2019, 05:24:20 PM
Seems like a ridiculous prediction. In every sense.

Charlie was likely one of the best RBs every in the CFL.  I agree, while I am hopeful he and other can develop, this is a major stretch.  I don't think I'll see a talent like Charlie again Winnipeg.  Harris is close and I think better overall but Charlie was as impactfull a player as I have seen in this league.

That said this combo could be deadly and at the very least Harris will teach our young RBs and receivers how to be a true pros and push themselves to develop and have the opportunity to be a star. 


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Pigskin on June 09, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Brady is not a Roberts type RB. Much bigger then Charlie, and not as quick in small spaces. Charlie could make you miss in a phone booth, Brad will run you over.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Stats Junkie on June 09, 2019, 10:06:15 PM
In the 1946 Grey Cup game, the Blue Bombers starting backfield consisted of Doug Gauthier, Harry Hood & Don Smith. All 3 played for Kelvin in 1943.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 10, 2019, 12:33:05 AM
In the 1946 Grey Cup game, the Blue Bombers starting backfield consisted of Doug Gauthier, Harry Hood & Don Smith. All 3 played for Kelvin in 1943.

That's awesome


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 10, 2019, 04:39:14 AM
Brady is not a Roberts type RB. Much bigger then Charlie, and not as quick in small spaces. Charlie could make you miss in a phone booth, Brad will run you over.

I don't think I've actually seen Oliveira, either video or live.  Is he more a power back as you describe, or what style is he?  What other RBs can he be compared with?

Let's hope he works out better than LaFrance, who came in with such promise and was supposed to be taken under AH33's wing.  LaFrance didn't accomplish much here except fumbling.  Is Oliveira at least a bigger/beefier back than LaFra?

And thanks Norlorne, I forgot Demski was that last Oak Parker I couldn't quite remember.  I think Demski is one of the most versatile NAT players around right now, and should have a great future, hopefully in B&G!


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Norlorne Dr. on June 10, 2019, 11:09:21 AM
I don't think I've actually seen Oliveira, either video or live.  Is he more a power back as you describe, or what style is he?  What other RBs can he be compared with?

Let's hope he works out better than LaFrance, who came in with such promise and was supposed to be taken under AH33's wing.  LaFrance didn't accomplish much here except fumbling.  Is Oliveira at least a bigger/beefier back than LaFra?

And thanks Norlorne, I forgot Demski was that last Oak Parker I couldn't quite remember.  I think Demski is one of the most versatile NAT players around right now, and should have a great future, hopefully in B&G!


Oliveira is definitely a "bigger/beefier" back than LaFrance.  I think it is too early in his career to have an accurate assessment of the type of back he is going to be.  He is listed at 5 foot 10, 225-230 pounds.  He definitely carries some extra weight, and could play around 210 if he wanted to.  I think his strengths and future roles with decide what type of back he is going to be.  He has potential to be an Andrew Harris-type back, or he could end up slimming down and being a career special teams player.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: blue_or_die on June 10, 2019, 12:24:14 PM
I don't think I've actually seen Oliveira, either video or live.  Is he more a power back as you describe, or what style is he?  What other RBs can he be compared with?

Let's hope he works out better than LaFrance, who came in with such promise and was supposed to be taken under AH33's wing.  LaFrance didn't accomplish much here except fumbling.  Is Oliveira at least a bigger/beefier back than LaFra?

And thanks Norlorne, I forgot Demski was that last Oak Parker I couldn't quite remember.  I think Demski is one of the most versatile NAT players around right now, and should have a great future, hopefully in B&G!


I don't think it was ever the intent to have LaFrance come in and be the next AH or anything, although he did have the opportunity to learn from him. I saw him as a backup/in-game Canadian option to spell Harris and get some straight-line speed, etc.

I think Oliveira and LaFrance aren't in the same category- not only in terms of type of back (yes, Oliveira is more of a power-back style given his size vs a scat/speed back like LaFrance), but also in terms of the team's plan for them.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Pigskin on June 10, 2019, 01:09:12 PM
The bombers have him listed at 220, and Harris at 214.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2019, 01:25:04 PM
I don't think it was ever the intent to have LaFrance come in and be the next AH or anything, although he did have the opportunity to learn from him. I saw him as a backup/in-game Canadian option to spell Harris and get some straight-line speed, etc.

I think Oliveira and LaFrance aren't in the same category- not only in terms of type of back (yes, Oliveira is more of a power-back style given his size vs a scat/speed back like LaFrance), but also in terms of the team's plan for them.

agreed... I believe that he was insurance to hedge against the ratio if Harris got hurt, at least for a short term fix...


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 10, 2019, 03:56:21 PM
I don't think I've actually seen Oliveira, either video or live.  Is he more a power back as you describe, or what style is he?  What other RBs can he be compared with?

Let's hope he works out better than LaFrance, who came in with such promise and was supposed to be taken under AH33's wing.  LaFrance didn't accomplish much here except fumbling.  Is Oliveira at least a bigger/beefier back than LaFra?

And thanks Norlorne, I forgot Demski was that last Oak Parker I couldn't quite remember.  I think Demski is one of the most versatile NAT players around right now, and should have a great future, hopefully in B&G!


Oliveira running style is similar to Harris in many respects and you can see glimpses of that in the following video, he's much more of a power back and doesn't look to have breakaway speed.  I see no reason not slot him in as FB. 

This new O-line making big holes for him is as essential to his success as it will be to Harris.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io3nJjrcToI


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: bowlerdude on June 10, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
I don't think I've actually seen Oliveira, either video or live.  Is he more a power back as you describe, or what style is he?  What other RBs can he be compared with?

Let's hope he works out better than LaFrance, who came in with such promise and was supposed to be taken under AH33's wing.  LaFrance didn't accomplish much here except fumbling.  Is Oliveira at least a bigger/beefier back than LaFra?

And thanks Norlorne, I forgot Demski was that last Oak Parker I couldn't quite remember.  I think Demski is one of the most versatile NAT players around right now, and should have a great future, hopefully in B&G!

The easiest comparison for Oliveira is the guy he's backing up. He's not as polished a receiver or blocker, but he's a power back, not crazy fast, but he's hard to bring down. If he does reach his potential, he'll look like a very similar player to Harris.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Norm W on June 10, 2019, 07:19:23 PM
The "Thick Nic" type player.... love that type of smash mouth football.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: PurpleReign on June 10, 2019, 07:45:58 PM
Santiago was #1 back at ND.  His stats were better and he was more dynamic  than Brady.  Brady's passport is why he was drafted ahead of a few backs who were better than him. After Harris is gone I would probably put an American in that spot who would be more dynamic.  Brady is a power rusher he will run through you but he has no breakaway speed and finesse moves.  There is a reason why he never even got an NFL camp invite but Santiago did. However I am excited to see what he can do for us, but as a long term solution I am still on the fence about that. I hope he ends up being another Andrew Harris for us.  Saying he is another Charles Roberts is rather silly at this point in his career, and not fair to Brady.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: PurpleReign on June 10, 2019, 07:52:26 PM
The "Thick Nic" type player.... love that type of smash mouth football.

I like it to, but you know at that position you will have a shorter career by playing that way.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Norlorne Dr. on June 10, 2019, 09:33:28 PM
The bombers have him listed at 220, and Harris at 214.

No.  The Blue Bombers official website has Harris listed at 216, and Oliveria at 227.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 10, 2019, 09:50:38 PM
No.  The Blue Bombers official website has Harris listed at 216, and Oliveria at 227.

Plenty big for FB and I relish having two backs on the field at once, sub out Demski on first downs. 


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Pigskin on June 10, 2019, 11:45:10 PM
I was going off of the Winnipeg/Edmonton game program.

I am not sure why Brad's passport would have anything to do with where he was drafted. Doesn't everyone in the CFL draft have the same passport?


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Jesse on June 11, 2019, 01:23:36 AM
I was going off of the Winnipeg/Edmonton game program.

I am not sure why Brad's passport would have anything to do with where he was drafted. Doesn't everyone in the CFL draft have the same passport?

He either does not get that concept or meant that Oliveira made the roster over Santiago because of his passport.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on June 11, 2019, 01:59:18 AM
Im sure Harris had some say.


Title: Re: Harris - Oliveira
Post by: Jesse on June 11, 2019, 02:13:21 AM
Im sure Harris had some say.

In what?