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Title: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 13, 2019, 08:45:48 PM
You're right. I think most will disagree about the Dressler idea. Time to move on and find the next Dressler in TC.

don't disagree, totally, but... Dressler has the resume to command an elevated amount of attention over some newbie new to the league, CFL game, team, scheme, waggle, no chemistry with QB, etc....

like I said, for the right money he could do a lot for this offense, even if he's not getting balls thrown to him...  but, that's just my opinion... 


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: blue girl on May 13, 2019, 09:47:59 PM
Dressler is not coming back. It's time to move on.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: kkc60 on May 14, 2019, 12:32:16 AM
Dressler is gone hopefully. We have Adams, Matthew's, Demski and Wolitarsky. We arent pressed to find a leader like Dressler and at his age and size, he's a guaranteed 6 game IR.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: ModAdmin on May 14, 2019, 01:05:55 AM
While it's a business and teams have to field the best players available, it's sad to hear some of the comments regarding Weston Dressler.

He came at a time when we needed a quality receiver like him and he always played hard, made key catches and we a solid team mate.  He doesn't deserve to be slighted or disrespected.  His time with the Bombers was productive even if injuries held him back late in his career. I thank him and wish him the best in the future.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: jeremy q public on May 14, 2019, 01:37:12 AM
I echo the sentiment that he doesn't deserve to be slighted. Having said that, I've seen nothing but respect for Dressler in this thread, although I realized offending comments could have been deleted. Yes there has been talk about how he got injured a little too much (for his liking as well as ours, I'm sure), but that is clearly not his fault. The opinion that we should move on from him is purely based on the business of football, not anything related to the effort, heart, and undeniable talent he lent to this team.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Pigskin on May 14, 2019, 01:53:41 AM
I would never say never, until he signs with another team or retires. We said that about Denmark a few years ago.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2019, 02:00:12 AM
While it's a business and teams have to field the best players available, it's sad to hear some of the comments regarding Weston Dressler.

He came at a time when we needed a quality receiver like him and he always played hard, made key catches and we a solid team mate.  He doesn't deserve to be slighted or disrespected.  His time with the Bombers was productive even if injuries held him back late in his career. I thank him and wish him the best in the future.

I agree, go back and watch the W.S.F. game against the Riders, one of the best games Dressler ever played in a Bomber uniform.  I really hoped Walters would find a way to keep him affiliated with the team in some way as he's such a valuable asset but with the cap on coaches that's not likely to happen now.  Who knows, maybe Hamilton will offer him the position Condell just stepped out of, I certainly would.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: kkc60 on May 14, 2019, 03:27:46 AM
I agree, go back and watch the W.S.F. game against the Riders, one of the best games Dressler ever played in a Bomber uniform.  I really hoped Walters would find a way to keep him affiliated with the team in some way as he's such a valuable asset but with the cap on coaches that's not likely to happen now.  Who knows, maybe Hamilton will offer him the position Condell just stepped out of, I certainly would.
Walter's and co have never really seemed interested in having ex-Bombers come back in any capacity


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: kkc60 on May 14, 2019, 03:35:12 AM
While it's a business and teams have to field the best players available, it's sad to hear some of the comments regarding Weston Dressler.

He came at a time when we needed a quality receiver like him and he always played hard, made key catches and we a solid team mate.  He doesn't deserve to be slighted or disrespected.  His time with the Bombers was productive even if injuries held him back late in his career. I thank him and wish him the best in the future.
I haven't found any comments that I'd find sad or disrespectful. No player deserves to be disrespected, necessarily. But it's not disrespectful to look back at the past few years and say the negatives along with the positives.

It seems some hold him up on this weird pedestal. Like yes he did great things for us and came here at the perfect time. He's a great guy, someone I've met numerous times. But again, he's an older, 5'7 receiver. His production is fine but if we were to bring him back either he would produce very little because of the group around him or Nichols would fall back to relying on him to a fault.

Don't get me wrong again, he's won us some games and been great on and off the field. But it's time we move on.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 14, 2019, 05:16:14 AM
He came at a time when we needed a quality receiver like him and he always played hard, made key catches and we a solid team mate.  He doesn't deserve to be slighted or disrespected.  His time with the Bombers was productive even if injuries held him back late in his career. I thank him and wish him the best in the future.

You bet.  And, Dressler is a shoe-in for HOF.

I think the biggest question is, when he retires does he do it in blue, or in green?

I agree with 66... if we have the SMS, and he'll play for less to try and get a ring, he's a great addition.  Even better, the guy has got to catch a break one of these years and remained uninjured!  The main knock on him is he's always hurt, and he's a bit expensive.  I don't see anyone complain that he can't still pick apart zones or run routes or make the circus catches.  So if he can solve his 2 problems and remain uninjured and become cheap, why not?

I seriously don't think we will re-sign him, but I would applaud if they did.  I agree again with 66 that a rec lineup of Adams, Matthews, Dressler, Woli, Demski would scare the beejeebus out of any opposing D.

Walter's and co have never really seemed interested in having ex-Bombers come back in any capacity

Buck?


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Ricky Bobby on May 14, 2019, 12:19:07 PM
While it's a business and teams have to field the best players available, it's sad to hear some of the comments regarding Weston Dressler.

He came at a time when we needed a quality receiver like him and he always played hard, made key catches and we a solid team mate.  He doesn't deserve to be slighted or disrespected.  His time with the Bombers was productive even if injuries held him back late in his career. I thank him and wish him the best in the future.

So true!!


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: GCn19 on May 14, 2019, 01:27:54 PM
I really like Dressler but I think he may not be the best fit for us this year unless he is willing to play for a 3rd receiver wage. Could he help us...sure...but I think his days as a Bomber are over because his salary would outweigh his usefulness. I think for SMS purposes the 3rd IMP receiver will have to be manned by someone on a rookie contract.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: BigBlueCrew on May 14, 2019, 01:39:29 PM
You bet.  And, Dressler is a shoe-in for HOF.

I think the biggest question is, when he retires does he do it in blue, or in green?

I agree with 66... if we have the SMS, and he'll play for less to try and get a ring, he's a great addition.  Even better, the guy has got to catch a break one of these years and remained uninjured!  The main knock on him is he's always hurt, and he's a bit expensive.  I don't see anyone complain that he can't still pick apart zones or run routes or make the circus catches.  So if he can solve his 2 problems and remain uninjured and become cheap, why not?

I seriously don't think we will re-sign him, but I would applaud if they did.  I agree again with 66 that a rec lineup of Adams, Matthews, Dressler, Woli, Demski would scare the beejeebus out of any opposing D.

Buck?


Not a question at all. It's green and no one should even think for a second that he should choose blue.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Horseman on May 14, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Not a question at all. It's green and no one should even think for a second that he should choose blue.

Yes, he should retire as a Rider (cough, spit, threw up in my mouth).


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2019, 01:45:22 PM
I really like Dressler but I think he may not be the best fit for us this year unless he is willing to play for a 3rd receiver wage. Could he help us...sure...but I think his days as a Bomber are over because his salary would outweigh his usefulness. I think for SMS purposes the 3rd IMP receiver will have to be manned by someone on a rookie contract.

Exactly. SMS, roster size and ratio prevent keeping Dressler around. Yes he may still be a more proven entity than some of the rookies. However if you don't put the rookie on the AR in place of a veteran, how do you know that a given rookie isn't better in the long run?

Every veteran is replaced eventually. Some are replaced too soon from a playing point of view but the real question is SMS across the entire roster.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: GCn19 on May 14, 2019, 04:35:01 PM
Exactly. SMS, roster size and ratio prevent keeping Dressler around. Yes he may still be a more proven entity than some of the rookies. However if you don't put the rookie on the AR in place of a veteran, how do you know that a given rookie isn't better in the long run?

Every veteran is replaced eventually. Some are replaced too soon from a playing point of view but the real question is SMS across the entire roster.

If our scouting has turned up a bunch of duds, I'd be all in favor of re-signing Dressler at a reduced price tag. However, if we have any of the kids show some upside we should pass on Dressler.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2019, 05:59:49 PM
If our scouting has turned up a bunch of duds, I'd be all in favor of re-signing Dressler at a reduced price tag. However, if we have any of the kids show some upside we should pass on Dressler.

As a veteran Dressler would probably have received a signing bonus. We won't know about the new rookies for awhile but some sound promising but that's usually the case going into every TC.

If none of the 2018 PR receivers: Nelson, Washington, Lawler stick and none of the rookies win the 3rd starting role, then questions will continue about the work of the scouts.

Maybe Thompkins hangs onto the 3rd import receiver spot and shines? I'd like to think we will find some new young talent in this round of rookies.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 15, 2019, 12:02:38 AM
Not a question at all. It's green and no one should even think for a second that he should choose blue.

How many years with WPG now?  ... If by some chance we sign and start him (cheap) in '19, and he wins a GC with us, would that change the retirement color equation?  Surely you don't win a GC in blue then immediately retire in green?

If our scouting has turned up a bunch of duds, I'd be all in favor of re-signing Dressler at a reduced price tag.

When has our receiver scouting ever turned up anything but duds?  ;)

Maybe Thompkins hangs onto the 3rd import receiver spot and shines? I'd like to think we will find some new young talent in this round of rookies.

Hope springs eternal!


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: DM83 on May 15, 2019, 01:22:51 AM
For the right money, Dressler could. Have an outstanding year here.  Defences will have to cover Matthews amd. Adams and even Wojo.  Dressler would gether Fourth best cover guy on him.  Dressler would be getting a TD and a half a game.

Bonus laden contract?


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 15, 2019, 01:57:14 AM
For the right money, Dressler could. Have an outstanding year here.  Defences will have to cover Matthews amd. Adams and even Wojo.  Dressler would gether Fourth best cover guy on him.  Dressler would be getting a TD and a half a game.

Bonus laden contract?

God you guys are depressing.
This receiving core is a joke.  Zero to get better.
Geez at this point signing Dressler would be the second biggest signing of the year.  How pathetic is Walters!?

Still not enough.  But when Adams. Goes down by the fifth game  ...time to bring back Hoss humard and suit. Wade up.  There will be zero people to throw to.

Seriously, this won't even be pro football.  This is bad.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: ichabod_crane on May 15, 2019, 03:04:27 AM
I think anyone hoping he remains injury free for an entire year at this stage of his career is a fantasy. I wish him the best, but probably time to move on. He's been an FA for a few months now and no one has picked him up yet,  but if he is still available later in the season he might be a good injury sub at that point if these other receivers get dinged up or don't pan out. Less impact to the SMS and fewer games where he might get dinged up.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on May 16, 2019, 04:31:50 AM
Our receiving corp is not good.. not good at all..


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: kkc60 on May 16, 2019, 04:37:16 AM
Our receiving corp is not good.. not good at all..
I'd argue it's better than it has been in a long time. Frankly we have one question mark at rec. ONE


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 16, 2019, 05:34:53 AM
Our receiving corp is not good.. not good at all..

Huh, what?  Must be a /sarc on that one.

With the signing of Matthews our corps went from "meh, hope a rookie shines" to well-complemented group of legit threats.

We really are so close to greatness.  Our D will be the best in the league by a mile this year.  Our O will best their record last year by a wide margin, and be a serious contender for #1 O.  Our RB is the best in the CFL, and is a NAT to boot.  Our other NAT O talent is second to none.  Our OL should be on par with last year by labor day.  Our backup QB is the best in the CFL.  Walters has filled in the entire puzzle.  Everything.  This is literally the best all-round Bomber team in, well, forever.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: booch on May 16, 2019, 11:14:17 AM
To say a group with Adam's.. Matthew's.. Woli and Demski and whomever fills it out is not good...is an idiot


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: GCn19 on May 16, 2019, 11:16:19 AM
Huh, what?  Must be a /sarc on that one.

With the signing of Matthews our corps went from "meh, hope a rookie shines" to well-complemented group of legit threats.

We really are so close to greatness.  Our D will be the best in the league by a mile this year.  Our O will best their record last year by a wide margin, and be a serious contender for #1 O.  Our RB is the best in the CFL, and is a NAT to boot.  Our other NAT O talent is second to none.  Our OL should be on par with last year by labor day.  Our backup QB is the best in the CFL.  Walters has filled in the entire puzzle.  Everything.  This is literally the best all-round Bomber team in, well, forever.


I like your optimism. I disagree with some of your statements, but I like your optimism. We definitely have some question marks in the secondary and OL that can't be ignored right now, but overall I agree this is a strong roster. I wouldn't call it a given that the OL will be as dominant, or that our D will be the best by a mile. That's overstating things methinks. However, they don't have to be for us to be successful. IF the new players in the secondary, OL, WIL, receiving corps, and we get 2017 Matt Nichols, we should be contending for a Grey Cup.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2019, 01:33:13 PM
We just need 1 of about 12 imports to fill our 3rd import receiver spot at an above average level. Some decent depth and we're going to have a very good core.

There are some promising youngsters so fingers are crossed we're headed in the right direction.

Matthews signing is huge literally and figuratively.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: NewBlue on May 16, 2019, 02:46:17 PM
OK, so maybe wrong thread but fits with the current discussion....
Who's going to have the bigger year:  Adams or Matthews?  Barring injury ofcourse.

I think they'll be very close and each will help the other, as who does the opposition cover more?
In the end hopefully it opens up our Canucks more!
I'm going to say 1000 yards each for Adams & Matthews, 500 each for Demski & Woli


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2019, 03:17:02 PM
OK, so maybe wrong thread but fits with the current discussion....
Who's going to have the bigger year:  Adams or Matthews?  Barring injury ofcourse.

I think they'll be very close and each will help the other, as who does the opposition cover more?
In the end hopefully it opens up our Canucks more!
I'm going to say 1000 yards each for Adams & Matthews, 500 each for Demski & Woli

I think Adams will have the bigger year. Teams will have to double Matthews at times instead of Adams. Both should have big seasons and defenses are going to have to game plan against more than 1 receiver. Both players are capable of scoring from anywhere on the field.

That's a new dynamic which will add to our offense.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: booch on May 16, 2019, 03:34:29 PM
the real winners hee will be Woli and Demski...things are going to really open up for them with pretty much an extra defender now pulled away from them to account for Matthews and Adams, also if we get a real burner slot added to it...it will make us way more dynamic this year, and the ripple effect is that Harris is going to have less defenders and congestion to deal with this year inside the box if you utilize our weapons correctly...a safety now is going to have to respect the pass and be pulled away in over the top support more, as well as the SAM may have to be in more of a pursuit mode now against us and not being able to spy the back field.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 16, 2019, 03:51:32 PM
Chris Williams for the right price? Or is he a broken goods already?


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2019, 04:04:28 PM
Chris Williams for the right price? Or is he a broken goods already?

Broken perhaps. Expensive too. Pass. I want to see what several of the young receivers bring to the table. After signing Matthews the 3rd import receiver won't have to be the big play guy in support of only Adams.



Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: blue_or_die on May 16, 2019, 04:25:43 PM
Broken perhaps. Expensive too. Pass. I want to see what several of the young receivers bring to the table. After signing Matthews the 3rd import receiver won't have to be the big play guy in support of only Adams.



Yeah, with a solid NI base of 2 starters and 2 elite import receivers now, I'm more than happy to/we can afford to plop in a guy with upside into the 3rd slot to develop him.

You've gotta think that with defenders on our other guys that the third spot would be a big opportunity for a young, unproven guy to make some good catches here and there. A confidence booster and development spot for a cheap salary. Almost akin to what we get from the 5th (Canadian) receiver spot.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Pigskin on May 16, 2019, 10:10:33 PM
I think we have the best group of Canadian receivers in the CFL.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 17, 2019, 03:30:28 AM
OK, so maybe wrong thread but fits with the current discussion....
Who's going to have the bigger year:  Adams or Matthews?  Barring injury ofcourse.

Great question.  I think Adams edges it out, unless Matthews proves more able to run under the slightly-inaccurate deep balls Nichols tends to throw.  BinBC said it, DCs will respect Matthews more, opening it up for Adams.  I would be perfectly happy if Matthews decoys for Adams all year (though I'm sure he won't be!).  Plus, Adams already has Nichols' and Lapo's respect and trust, and loyalty.

Chris Williams for the right price? Or is he a broken goods already?

As Austin Powers says, "and, I'm spent".  WFC SMS is done.  Blown the wad.  Priced to perfection.  And, there's no need anymore.  Our rec roster is looking very, very good, and one new(ish) guy has got to stand out this year.  I haven't even thought about Williams in 2 years.  Something weird happened to that guy.  Fastest hero to zero I've ever seen.

I think we have the best group of Canadian receivers in the CFL.

By a country mile!


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 17, 2019, 03:38:05 AM
IF the new players in the secondary, OL, WIL, receiving corps, and we get 2017 Matt Nichols, we should be contending for a Grey Cup.

As other have said, I think our secondary is extremely strong this year.  We've made great finds in the last 3 years.  I see no weak links in the secondary.  The only iffy question is safety, but if Jones can start, I think he'll do just fine.  I'm happier with a ball-spotter over a heavy-hitter anyhow.

WILL is really the only big question mark on D, but I think Hall & MOS will field the right guy and adjust as necessary.  And Biggie will make up for any WILL weakness, and help with mentorship.

Thinking back to a couple of/few years ago, we could have only dreamed of being in a situation where we just had to worry about WILL and maybe FS on D.  Remember the Hurl & Roc years and all the Fogg griping?  This is heaven compared to then.

P.S. Alexander is proving to be a real beast out there.  Who would have seen that coming when he was a rookie?  No one paid any attention to him then.  Huge kudos to KW, MOS, RH to a) finding the guy, and b) seeing the future star in him, 'cause I sure didn't!


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: NewBlue on May 17, 2019, 02:13:57 PM
Was Matthews that big (230) when he was here last?  I wonder if he still has the speed....Maybe we use him in more blocking downs


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 17, 2019, 02:56:40 PM
As other have said, I think our secondary is extremely strong this year.  We've made great finds in the last 3 years.  I see no weak links in the secondary.  The only iffy question is safety, but if Jones can start, I think he'll do just fine.  I'm happier with a ball-spotter over a heavy-hitter anyhow.

WILL is really the only big question mark on D, but I think Hall & MOS will field the right guy and adjust as necessary.  And Biggie will make up for any WILL weakness, and help with mentorship.

Thinking back to a couple of/few years ago, we could have only dreamed of being in a situation where we just had to worry about WILL and maybe FS on D.  Remember the Hurl & Roc years and all the Fogg griping?  This is heaven compared to then.

P.S. Alexander is proving to be a real beast out there.  Who would have seen that coming when he was a rookie?  No one paid any attention to him then.  Huge kudos to KW, MOS, RH to a) finding the guy, and b) seeing the future star in him, 'cause I sure didn't!


Re: Alexander. Yes excellent find in 2017. He only played 15 games and I don't  remember whether he started game 1 or had some IR time.

Part of my point ( about the kudos): In 2017 Walker played 10 games, Carmichael played 15 games, Porter played 5 games.  Who was ranked where and when is a little vague.

So was he deemed the best of the 4 in their minds, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

I'm more reluctant to give kudos for success of finding 1 great player without considering the failures in the same time frame.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 17, 2019, 09:36:43 PM
I would never say never, until he signs with another team or retires. We said that about Denmark a few years ago.

Denny > Dress late stage career


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 17, 2019, 09:39:40 PM
To say a group with Adam's.. Matthew's.. Woli and Demski and whomever fills it out is not good...is an idiot
hit a bell three times loudly
I think Adams will have the bigger year. Teams will have to double Matthews at times instead of Adams. Both should have big seasons and defenses are going to have to game plan against more than 1 receiver. Both players are capable of scoring from anywhere on the field.

That's a new dynamic which will add to our offense.

Adams 1000 yards for sure
the real winners hee will be Woli and Demski...things are going to really open up for them with pretty much an extra defender now pulled away from them to account for Matthews and Adams, also if we get a real burner slot added to it...it will make us way more dynamic this year, and the ripple effect is that Harris is going to have less defenders and congestion to deal with this year inside the box if you utilize our weapons correctly...a safety now is going to have to respect the pass and be pulled away in over the top support more, as well as the SAM may have to be in more of a pursuit mode now against us and not being able to spy the back field.


yip


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: PurpleReign on May 17, 2019, 10:21:18 PM
Some of you want Dressler back, but we already have a player that can fill his shoes and that is Petermann.  Time to give this kid the green light.  We have gem on our hands.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 17, 2019, 10:34:29 PM
Some of you want Dressler back, but we already have a player that can fill his shoes and that is Petermann.  Time to give this kid the green light.  We have gem on our hands.

time to move on and develop the future not look to the past


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: fansince79 on May 18, 2019, 11:48:52 AM
I really would like to see Simonise step up this year. Tall, big body, physical, bit of a mouth which I always like. 


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 19, 2019, 12:58:48 AM
Some of you want Dressler back, but we already have a player that can fill his shoes and that is Petermann.  Time to give this kid the green light.  We have gem on our hands.

for me, it's more about the collective rather than the individual player, per se... meaning, that by keeping Dressler he makes the receiving corp, those around him, better, makes our QB better, and ultimately makes the team better and I'm not sure who else you could do this with... I listed some of the reasons why I believe this in another thread, but I'll add them here again...

1. Dressler is a future HOFer and even if he's not getting as many targets as he enjoyed in seasons prior, defenses will have to respect and cover him because if they don't he will burn them...

2. Dressler is probably our best route runner on the team and has a knack at getting open, especially when needed...

3. Nichols likes him, has chemistry with him, trusts him... I think his presence will help Nichols be more comfortable and confident based more or less on the fact that when Dressler is on the field he has generally be the #1 or #2 targeted receiver...

4. Dressler could be a great mid tier route runner (along with Woli or Thompkins), those 10 to 20 yard routes... because they will have to account for Dressler with legit coverage, and with Adams and Matthews of the deep routes, and having Demski and Harris running the short stuff, we will be able to create better match ups, better throwing lanes, and space for yards after the catch at all levels...

5. Dressler already has an intimate knowledge of the Bomber offensive playbook and again, his route running ability puts him ahead of others... couple that with his relationship with Nichols, how well they know each other and each other's tendencies, he could still produce at a high level for the Bombers, even if it isn't captured in the stat sheets in yards or receptions...

6. All of our young receivers could benefit from having him on the team...

7. I don't think that you will bring in any other player for less that what we could potentially sign Dressler for and be as productive as Dressler can be...

a lot of people are saying that it's time to move on from Dressler, and apparently team management feels the say way, but I have to assume that these thoughts are based primary his age and past injury issues, both legit concerns, because it can really be based upon his on field performance as he is still one of the Bombers most productive offensive players...

last year, though playing in 4 fewer games than Adams, Woli, Dempski, and Harris, he was only 19 yards off from having the 3rd most total yards as a receiver... Dressler had 535 yards and Demski had 554 yards, but also had almost 20 more targets than Dressler...

when comparing our top 6 receivers from 2018 (Adams, Woli, Dressler, Harris, Demski, Thompkins), Dressler was 2nd on the team in receiving yards per game... tied for 2nd with receiving TDs... tied for 2nd in receptions per game... 3rd in yards after the catch per catch... 4th in yards per target...

one of the reasons I like Dressler comes from a stat that is tracked by the CFL, Successful Plays... a successful play is a reception that nets 7 or more yards on a 1st down reception, or achieves a 1st down from a reception made on 2nd or 3rd down... Dressler was tied for 3rd in total Successful Receptions, only 3 fewer than 2nd, while again, playing in 4 less games than the others... had the 2nd most Successful Receptions per game... and the 3rd best Successful Receptions Percentage per Targets... what this boils down to is keeping the chains moving, completing first downs, and keeping drives alive...

to be quite honest, Dressler had better production than Demski last year in almost every stat... though it should be expected given Dressler is a veteran of the league, I doubt many would have thought that to be if asked...

I haven't seen an appreciable decline in Dressler's speed on the field and if he's bumped back to basically the #4 option receiver it could help in keeping him healthy... if he's willing to play for significantly less, which it appears he's going to have to if he still wants to play, he would be great for the team...

now, with all of that being said... in regards to promoting Petermann, Simonise, or 'insert new rookie receiver's name here', it really doesn't help the team that much because we all know that Nichols generally doesn't throw regularly to yet proven receivers...  fielding a receiving corp of Adams, Matthews, Woli, Demski, Dressler, Thompkins and throw in Harris, they represent over 80% of all targets in 2018, 85% of total receptions, and 83% of total receiving yards... that makes every receiver on the field, other than Matthews, a receiver that Nichols has significant playing time, chemistry and an established level of trust... Matthews will see his share of throws because Nichols will be motivated in throwing in his direction, much like he did last year when Bowman was here, only Bowman didn't catch the ball...  This would put us in a place that the Bombers haven't really been in for seasons past... every receiver is a legit target on every play... we wouldn't be fielding 1 or 2 receiver positions that most likely won't see more than 1 or maybe 2 balls a game... slight modifications to our offensive scheme, more layered routes at all levels of the field, and a strong running game, this offense could be the best we have fielded yet, collectively...

but again, it has to make sense financially and a direction that the team sees value in doing... but personally, I think it makes a lot of sense, without knowing specific details related to Dressler's asking amount, SMS room, etc, etc... just throwing out conversation and opinion... but Walters did mention the possibility of fielding 3 national receivers this year as well, so I don't know...


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: dd on May 21, 2019, 03:40:17 AM
Dressler is a proven playmaker that has one intangible the others can only hope to acquire?confidence. He makes everyone around him better and I am still hoping we can make this happen


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: theaardvark on May 21, 2019, 11:56:15 AM
Dressler is a proven playmaker that has one intangible the others can only hope to acquire?confidence. He makes everyone around him better and I am still hoping we can make this happen

Oday said Dressler is not an option, and if there was a team that needed his contribution on the field... well...

I think he is waiting for one last shot, and then, hopefully, he is our final coach added to our roster, taking over the Rec's from Lapo...


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: PurpleReign on May 21, 2019, 01:42:32 PM
Oday said Dressler is not an option, and if there was a team that needed his contribution on the field... well...

I think he is waiting for one last shot, and then, hopefully, he is our final coach added to our roster, taking over the Rec's from Lapo...

No doubt that he is a very good player but it looks like all CFL teams are concerned about his health issues, or he would have been already signed.   I can see him signing with a team if they lose a receiver during the season at some point.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: GCn19 on May 21, 2019, 06:05:43 PM
No doubt that he is a very good player but it looks like all CFL teams are concerned about his health issues, or he would have been already signed.   I can see him signing with a team if they lose a receiver during the season at some point.

I agree. Weston's age/injury history work against him right now but I could easily see him airlifted in somewhere this season.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 21, 2019, 08:20:22 PM
obviously no longer a #1 or #2 option receiver, but, as a #4 or #5 option his durability may improve vastly... but, salary would have to match intended use/need...


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on May 21, 2019, 10:03:19 PM
obviously no longer a #1 or #2 option receiver, but, as a #4 or #5 option his durability may improve vastly... but, salary would have to match intended use/need...

Roster size, ratio as well as SMS work against this idea. At this point we don't even know who all the starting import receivers are going to be.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: DM83 on May 24, 2019, 03:40:11 AM
Again based on last yr he would be an outstanding fourth or fifth receiver, of course at a equal rate of pay   At  a base with bonuses for specifics, starts, games played. Receptions.  As a non prime time receiver he could easily get ten TDs a game being covered by the fifth DB. Plus. He still ran that Jet sweep successfully.

Again for the right Money.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 24, 2019, 04:04:49 AM
Again based on last yr he would be an outstanding fourth or fifth receiver, of course at a equal rate of lay.  Aye a base with bonuses for specifics, starts, ages played. Receptions.  As a non prime time receiver he could easily get ten TDs a game being covered by the fifth DB. Plus. He still ran that Jet sweep successfully.

Again for the right Money.

You said it.  I remember that Dressler draw/run up the left side (was it B-gap?) in '18, don't remember which game.  Had everyone fooled and he ran right past everybody grasping at air for like 20 yards.

It would be great if in the end Dressler decides to "Wild"-it and take a big pay cut to stay with us for 1 more year to get his ring.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: DM83 on May 24, 2019, 12:12:32 PM
Yup!

I wonder where he is?


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: GCn19 on May 24, 2019, 12:32:39 PM
You said it.  I remember that Dressler draw/run up the left side (was it B-gap?) in '18, don't remember which game.  Had everyone fooled and he ran right past everybody grasping at air for like 20 yards.

It would be great if in the end Dressler decides to "Wild"-it and take a big pay cut to stay with us for 1 more year to get his ring.


Dressler has a ring.


Title: Re: Weston Dressler Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 25, 2019, 04:19:46 AM
Dressler has a ring.

Hehe, ya, I meant his BLUE & GOLD ring  :D.  Who wants a green ring, anyhow  ;D ;D