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Title: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: ModAdmin on May 01, 2019, 04:05:24 PM
2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks

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Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: blue_or_die on May 01, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
Just want to have some discussion but didn't think it warranted a new topic:

Thoughts on Brady Oliveira, chances we pick him, and what pick?

It sure would be something to have a succession plan for Andrew and having RB be a "designated Winnipegger" position is pretty wild, lol.

Maybe with our second rounder, or does he go earlier (or later, even)?


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 01, 2019, 06:12:14 PM
Just want to have some discussion but didn't think it warranted a new topic:

Thoughts on Brady Oliveira, chances we pick him, and what pick?

It sure would be something to have a succession plan for Andrew and having RB be a "designated Winnipegger" position is pretty wild, lol.

Maybe with our second rounder, or does he go earlier (or later, even)?

If we can get Oliveira late I would take him. If not, I hope our succession plan for Harris is not automatically NAT. Only NAT if we have, or can get, an ELITE NAT RB. If not, go back to IMP at RB. Bottom line, in our O we cannot pigeon hole ourselves to be stuck with anything less than an outstanding RB.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 01, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
Walters said there were some really good TB's in the draft: Irons, Oliveira and Lyles to name a few. Where they perceive their actual ranking and fit for the Bombers is the question. It certainly wouldn't surprise me to see us draft a TB this draft. Ideally that would be in the 3rd round maybe?



Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: blue_or_die on May 01, 2019, 06:35:59 PM
If we can get Oliveira late I would take him. If not, I hope our succession plan for Harris is not automatically NAT. Only NAT if we have, or can get, an ELITE NAT RB. If not, go back to IMP at RB. Bottom line, in our O we cannot pigeon hole ourselves to be stuck with anything less than an outstanding RB.

I agree. I should have included the caveat that Oliveira actually is projected to be elite for him to be in the plans. Otherwise in 20 years when Harris retires we will need to go back to Int RB.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: Noeller on May 01, 2019, 07:43:48 PM
Don't think Bombers will be continuing NI RB after Harris, so Oliveira not likely a priority. OL, DL and maybe REC will be priorities for the WBB...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 01, 2019, 11:14:11 PM
Don't think Bombers will be continuing NI RB after Harris, so Oliveira not likely a priority. OL, DL and maybe REC will be priorities for the WBB...
Rec really isnt necessary. We have the four from last year still here. I'd go rec maybe 3rd or later. Only receiver I'd consider at 4 or 5 is Lineus-Dickey


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: Fire101 on May 02, 2019, 12:15:10 AM
Offensive Line would be priority. IMO starting three Americans along the O-line is not a good idea.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 02, 2019, 12:30:31 AM
Offensive Line would be priority. IMO starting three Americans along the O-line is not a good idea.

agree, OL is always the priority


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on May 02, 2019, 08:55:38 AM
If we keep our two top picks, I think we go o-line, and perhaps Betts if he is still avail, if Betts is off by our pick I could see two o-line, or if our top board Receiver is still there we may go O-line and rec. We might surprise and see a RB in the 2nd.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: RebusRankin on May 02, 2019, 11:47:25 AM
I'd like to see OL and a guy like Betts if available in the 1st. Suspect we might see OL and then WR or OL and a trade though with 4 and 5.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 12:59:12 PM
I'd like to see OL and a guy like Betts if available in the 1st. Suspect we might see OL and then WR or OL and a trade though with 4 and 5.

Hard to say what happens with Betts after he got a priority UDFA deal in the NFL. I'm not sure any team will take him in the 1st round as a result.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: booch on May 02, 2019, 01:15:51 PM
cant see Betts sticking there....he is too small to play the edge there, and has little to no experience to be slotted in as an outside linebacker type there and not worth the time and effort for an NFL tam to put years worth of work into him to just be a marginal guy at best..there are hundreds of undrafted guys coming out of U.S schools with his measurable's or better, who would need less work to make a team, if only as a special teamer and 3rd tier depth guy, so he will get a look, but be shocked if he gets a PR spot


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 02, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
Hard to say what happens with Betts after he got a priority UDFA deal in the NFL. I'm not sure any team will take him in the 1st round as a result.

I would take him at 5 without blinking an eye.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 01:36:18 PM
I would take him at 5 without blinking an eye.

We have the luxury of two 1st round picks so have an opportunity to take that risk. After listening to Walters I'm not sure he wants to do that with so many good players available. That may have been smoke and mirrors so I wouldn't rule it out either.

I could see it with our # 15 pick possibly. OTOH, that's what makes the draft so interesting.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 02, 2019, 02:22:08 PM
I would take him at 5 without blinking an eye.

4 would be a better spot to take him... especially if he isn't going to be signed this year... then #5 will carry a lower pricetag ;)


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 02, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
cant see Betts sticking there....he is too small to play the edge there, and has little to no experience to be slotted in as an outside linebacker type there and not worth the time and effort for an NFL tam to put years worth of work into him to just be a marginal guy at best..there are hundreds of undrafted guys coming out of U.S schools with his measurable's or better, who would need less work to make a team, if only as a special teamer and 3rd tier depth guy, so he will get a look, but be shocked if he gets a PR spot

DE has become the domain of super athletic players, not sure any Canadian prospect is going to be able to compete with top-grade athletes like Jefferson and Jeffcoat even with a ratio advantage.  Trends being what they are this looks to be the direction the CFL is heading, better to focus on DT or OL prospects and pick up a solid grinder.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Ridermania on May 02, 2019, 05:18:30 PM
4 would be a better spot to take him... especially if he isn't going to be signed this year... then #5 will carry a lower pricetag ;)


Aards took his brain pills today!

Good observation.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 02, 2019, 06:38:42 PM
4 would be a better spot to take him... especially if he isn't going to be signed this year... then #5 will carry a lower pricetag ;)


There is no difference in salary between 4 and 5, therefore, you take the player you want now at 4 and see if your phone rings for a potential trade at 5. In the past several years, outside of number one, the first round payscale has been virtually even between picks 2-9


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 02, 2019, 06:41:43 PM
Aards took his brain pills today!

Good observation.

If what he were saying were true perhaps.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Pigskin on May 02, 2019, 07:28:18 PM
If Betts or Kongbo are available at 4/5 we have to take one of them. After Richards, Wilkinson and Fonatna are the only other OL's in the top 10.



Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2019, 08:02:53 PM
If Betts or Kongbo are available at 4/5 we have to take one of them. After Richards, Wilkinson and Fonatna are the only other OL's in the top 10.



 Sounds good I don?t know crap about any of these guys.  I?m just excited to see some new Canadian blood Flowing through these blue and gold veins.

Pick well Kevin!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: blue girl on May 02, 2019, 09:01:55 PM
I would take Betts at #4 or 5. Doesn't matter which. I don't think he'll be coming to the CFL this year anyway so it's a pick for the future.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 02, 2019, 10:10:25 PM
WHERE TO WATCH: 2019 CFL DRAFT TUNE-IN INFO
The Canadian Football League will host its annual CFL Draft on Thursday, May 2nd at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. Portions of the Draft can be seen on TSN, RDS and TSN Direct.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl

The first two hours (8:00 p.m. ? 10:00 p.m. ET) can be seen on TSN 1, 3 and 4 and RDS with the remainder of the Draft available on TSN Direct and TSN.ca.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 02, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
Hope we find a way to get Oliveira in round 3 somehow.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: thunderNlightning on May 02, 2019, 11:37:40 PM
Desjarlais and Kongbo at 4 and 5. Im happy!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: RebusRankin on May 02, 2019, 11:39:36 PM
Desjarlais and Kongbo at 4 and 5. Im happy!

Me too. ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2019, 11:50:34 PM
Kongbo  ripped up his knee pretty good with a torn ACL and MCL. Eke!

 I understand he will be back in July but is there any injury concerns more than a normal player?


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 02, 2019, 11:53:22 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2019/04/30/will-nfl-aspirations-impact-thursdays-draft/

Windsor OL Drew Desjarlais ? New York Giants and Pittsburgh Steelers

My top overall pick in Mock Draft 2.0, I have to imagine that Desjarlais will impress Giants brass the same way he did anyone in attendance at the CFL National Combine but the Giants are notorious ? in the most positive way ? for bringing in plenty of Canadians to get a look at rookie mini camps thanks to front office man Kevin Abrams? Canadian connections.

Desjarlais should go, learn, gain some unique experiences and bring them back to be a CFL difference maker.

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https://www.cfl.ca/2018/08/30/kongbo-tops-first-scouting-bureau-rankings-2019/

Jonathan Kongbo | DL | Tennessee

In two seasons with the Tennessee Volunteers, Kongbo has appeared in 24 games, starting in 12. Through 24 games he?s amassed 40 tackles (15 solo, 25 assisted), 5.5 tackles for a loss and 3.5 sacks. Kongbo, a native of Surrey, B.C. also notched a interception versus Missouri that he returned 59 yards for a touchdown. Prior to going to the University of Tennessee Kongbo attended Wyoming as a freshman where he reshirted. Following that he went to Arizona Western College (JUCO) where he played a season and was rated the number one JUCO prospect.


https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/01/primer-need-know-2019-cfl-draft/

Jonathan Kongbo ? The top prospect in the first of three scouting bureau rankings last September, Kongbo suffered a season-ending injury that could sideline him well into 2019. That shouldn?t deter anyone, as the Surrey, B.C. native started at defensive end for a Division I NCAA school with the Tennessee Volunteers.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 02, 2019, 11:56:10 PM
Welcome to the ball club,looks like our trenches just got stronger long term!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 12:12:59 AM
cant see Betts sticking there....he is too small to play the edge there, and has little to no experience to be slotted in as an outside linebacker type there and not worth the time and effort for an NFL tam to put years worth of work into him to just be a marginal guy at best..there are hundreds of undrafted guys coming out of U.S schools with his measurable's or better, who would need less work to make a team, if only as a special teamer and 3rd tier depth guy, so he will get a look, but be shocked if he gets a PR spot


He is not too small to play DE. Ever heard of Von Miller? Same size as Betts.  Betts is raw and will have to develop whether he sticks or not depends how much patience a team has.  I have seen this kid play twice and was a beast in Usports.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 12:16:30 AM
Desjarlais and Kongbo at 4 and 5. Im happy!

Great picks. I've seen Desjarlais play and he will be a good one for us.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 12:20:09 AM
Who do they go with in the 2nd round? Wilkinson for another lineman or QR Julien Grant??


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 12:27:04 AM
Now they gotta take Wilkinson!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 12:29:16 AM
Or if the go REC then best pick would have to Gittens but, wow, how do they pass up on Wilkinson?


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 12:31:51 AM
Not bad getting local boy Olivera.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: mondo3 on May 03, 2019, 12:34:04 AM
Does seem odd that we passed on the OL


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
Not bad getting local boy Olivera.

Didn't like that pick at that spot for us.  He isn't even the best back in the draft. We have Augustine who I think is better.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 12:38:14 AM
Does seem odd that we passed on the OL

Would have taken Wilkinson with my eyes closed.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 03, 2019, 12:39:56 AM
Now they gotta take Wilkinson!
neither did the Riders

I like the Olivera pick!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 03, 2019, 12:46:20 AM
I like the pick of a RB.  Here is hoping he is awesome.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 03, 2019, 01:10:16 AM
Wilkinson is off the board...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 03, 2019, 01:12:53 AM
Wonder if we take Griffiths here


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 03, 2019, 01:13:19 AM
Wonder if we take Griffiths here

Yep


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Pigskin on May 03, 2019, 01:14:05 AM
I like our picks so far.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 01:14:36 AM
I'm not unhappy with any of our 3 picks. Several thought come to mind, some are just pure speculation / queries.

1. Desjarlais won't be available for TC. He might even end up getting a NFL TC offer? In any case it defers our SMS spend for awhile. Does this mean we are very happy with our Canadian OL depth and / or are we giving serious thought to a 3 import OL? Technically I don't think we can even offer him a contact until after his NFL mini camp.

2. Kongbo. Sounds like a player with high upside that might have had more NFL attention if not for the injury. In any case he'll miss TC and again defers SMS spend somewhat. No idea how serious the injuries were ( season ending ) or what the recovery path will be.

3. Oliveria. Manitoba kid. Not a bad idea and he seems like he has good potential. Might see work early on ST's? He might be fighting Augustine as the in game injury RB.

All in all, sounds like good decisions were made. Can't complain but I'm a little more curious about the OL plan then I was at the beginning of the day. Could mean they are really high on the returning 2018 OL draft choices and Gray's chance of starting by mid season?


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Pigskin on May 03, 2019, 01:16:27 AM
DL was a position we needed help. Another solid pick.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 01:22:40 AM
DL was a position we needed help. Another solid pick.

Does he have any eligibility left? DL is any area of need. Where or how we keep 4 Canadians may be something to wonder about.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: CrazyCanuck89 on May 03, 2019, 01:30:48 AM
Eli Tavita played both centre and left tackle at Hawai, good pick.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 03, 2019, 01:35:26 AM
Wow... the panel is gushing over Tavita...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 01:37:47 AM
A bit of a reach taking Eli in the 4th when Shane Richards and Bison McMorris were still available.  I would call Eli an off the board pick for sure.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: ModAdmin on May 03, 2019, 01:41:49 AM
Winnipeg Blue Bombers select Windsor offensive lineman Drew Desjarlais with 4th overall selection in 2019 CFL Draft

WINNIPEG, MB., May 2, 2019 - With their first pick, 4th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers selected University of Windsor offensive lineman Drew Desjarlais.

Desjarlais (6-5, 325, Windsor, April 24, 1997 in Belle River, ON) spent four season at Waterloo, playing and starting 27 games over that time at both right or left guard.  He played for the West Team in the U SPORTS East-West Bowl last season, and was named an OUA second-team all-star.

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Winnipeg Blue Bombers select Tennessee defensive end Jonathan Kongbo with 5th overall selection in 2019 CFL Draft

WINNIPEG, MB., May 2, 2019 - With their second pick, 5th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers selected Tennessee defensive end Jonathan Kongbo.

Kongbo (6-5, 255, Tennessee, March 19, 1996 in Surrey, BC)  played 30 games, starting 17, over three seasons with the Volunteers as a linebacker and defensive lineman. He totalled 51 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, two interceptions (including a 50-yarder returned for a touchdown), and two knockdowns. He won the 2018 John Stucky award as Tennessee?s best performer in the weight room.

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Winnipeg Blue Bombers select Winnipeg-born running back  Brady Oliveira with 14th overall selection in 2019 CFL Draft

WINNIPEG, MB., May 2, 2019 - With their third pick, 14th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers selected Winnipeg-born, and North Dakota product, Brady Oliveira (RB).

Oliveira (5-10, 228, North Dakota, May 31, 1995 in Winnipeg, MB) played 42 games at North Dakota, recording 2,822 rushing yards and 22 touchdowns over four seasons. He earned All- Big-Sky Honours in 2016 and 2017, and was a Jon Cornish Award Finalist in 2019, given to the most outstanding Canadian player in collegiate football. His best season came in his final one at UND, recording 980 rushing yards on 161 attempts, with eight touchdowns in just 11 games.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: CrazyCanuck89 on May 03, 2019, 01:42:08 AM
A bit of a reach taking Eli in the 4th when Shane Richards and Bison McMorris were still available.  I would call Eli an off the board pick for sure.

What are you talking about?  Shane Richards went first overall.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 03, 2019, 01:45:42 AM
A bit of a reach taking Eli in the 4th when Shane Richards and Bison McMorris were still available.  I would call Eli an off the board pick for sure.

Definitely should have taken Betts in the 4th.

Anyway, I think we would have taken Lee in the 5th but the Stamps beat us to him


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 01:49:39 AM
What are you talking about?  Shane Richards went first overall.
Shane Richards. :P.....Malik Richards I means. Lucky he was still available in the 5th. Thats a steal of a REC that late and probably the last quality receiver left in the draft..


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 03, 2019, 01:53:10 AM
Shane Richards. :P.....Malik Richards I means. Lucky he was still available in the 5th. Thats a steal of a REC that late and probably the last quality receiver left in the draft..

You have never heard of Malik Richards.

You were talking about OL, clearly.

Anyway, LaChance stays home, Bombers are loading up on the lines.



Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 01:56:03 AM
Good to see BB's add some local content with former Rifle Tariq Lachance. Could turn into a good special teams addition.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: fuzzy on May 03, 2019, 02:03:47 AM
I'd say the Blue have addressed all their needs and added aa lot of depth to their Canadian contrnt. OL,DL REC. and local content at RB and TEAMs. And there is sd till some talent out there this late in the draft.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: The Zipp on May 03, 2019, 02:03:49 AM
Definitely should have taken Betts in the 4th.

Anyway, I think we would have taken Lee in the 5th but the Stamps beat us to him


Betts was gone as the third overall pick...we had no option of taking him


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 03, 2019, 02:06:39 AM
Good to see BB's add some local content with former Rifle Tariq Lachance. Could turn into a good special teams addition.

You pick the local team he does not even have record of playing a game for rather than the Bisons in addition  to actually being born in Winnipeg.

Easy Lyle


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Leroy on May 03, 2019, 02:07:20 AM
Betts was gone as the third overall pick...we had no option of taking him

Reaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy?!!!!

How embarrassing

I meant Jaylan Guthrie.  He was the best OL left in the draft.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 03, 2019, 02:22:23 AM
Jamel Lyles, Bison RB selected #69 BC Lions.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: CrazyCanuck89 on May 03, 2019, 02:23:18 AM
Four Defensive ends from the University of Manitoba picked in the draft.

Lachance
Larsen
Dufault
Abbott


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: RebusRankin on May 03, 2019, 02:25:40 AM
I'm not unhappy with any of our 3 picks. Several thought come to mind, some are just pure speculation / queries.

1. Desjarlais won't be available for TC. He might even end up getting a NFL TC offer? In any case it defers our SMS spend for awhile. Does this mean we are very happy with our Canadian OL depth and / or are we giving serious thought to a 3 import OL? Technically I don't think we can even offer him a contact until after his NFL mini camp.

2. Kongbo. Sounds like a player with high upside that might have had more NFL attention if not for the injury. In any case he'll miss TC and again defers SMS spend somewhat. No idea how serious the injuries were ( season ending ) or what the recovery path will be.

3. Oliveria. Manitoba kid. Not a bad idea and he seems like he has good potential. Might see work early on ST's? He might be fighting Augustine as the in game injury RB.

All in all, sounds like good decisions were made. Can't complain but I'm a little more curious about the OL plan then I was at the beginning of the day. Could mean they are really high on the returning 2018 OL draft choices and Gray's chance of starting by mid season?

That Giants rookie camp starts tomorrow and ends Saturday.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Pigskin on May 03, 2019, 02:26:34 AM
Good draft for the bombers.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 03, 2019, 02:46:45 AM
That Giants rookie camp starts tomorrow and ends Saturday.

Giants...he'll be back home by Sunday.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: blue girl on May 03, 2019, 02:53:19 AM
I like this draft. We loaded up on the OL and DL and also got a couple of Winnipegers.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 03, 2019, 03:54:08 AM
I like this draft. We loaded up on the OL and DL and also got a couple of Winnipegers.

Yup, looks good to me, with my very limited knowledge of college ball.  I really like the idea of snagging a NAT on the D side.  Here's hoping he pans out in the future.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 03, 2019, 04:01:55 AM

He is not too small to play DE. Ever heard of Von Miller? Same size as Betts.  Betts is raw and will have to develop whether he sticks or not depends how much patience a team has.  I have seen this kid play twice and was a beast in Usports.
I think Betts can thrive in a 3-4 OLB role. Line up wide and standing up. His first step is apparently among the best so a hand in the dirt end style might not work against bigger tackles and might affect his speed. Keep in mind Miller is a 3-4 OLB too


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: kkc60 on May 03, 2019, 04:02:37 AM
Not bad getting local boy Olivera.
Would have preferred Irons but can't complain


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: kkc60 on May 03, 2019, 04:04:00 AM
Does he have any eligibility left? DL is any area of need. Where or how we keep 4 Canadians may be something to wonder about.
Maxx Forde is not guaranteed a roster spot


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2019, 04:06:07 AM
Jeez some of the commentary in here ...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: DM83 on May 03, 2019, 10:58:07 AM
Bombers seem to have picked interestingly and wisely!   Where is Jade Ettiene?


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on May 03, 2019, 11:11:01 AM
I feel as if we got a top flight O-line, which is what most expected we would do with our first pick, take whatever O-lineman was still available and highest on our board. Kongbo is a gamble with his injury, I am confident we were thinking Betts but since he went at 3 we went next best DL on our board. Listening to Walters pre draft speech, I am not surprised we went RB at our next pick, he spoke a-lot about the position and ended up with his "pick of the litter". Over-all it seems we had a decent draft.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2019, 11:28:51 AM
I feel as if we got a top flight O-line, which is what most expected we would do with our first pick, take whatever O-lineman was still available and highest on our board. Kongbo is a gamble with his injury, I am confident we were thinking Betts but since he went at 3 we went next best DL on our board. Listening to Walters pre draft speech, I am not surprised we went RB at our next pick, he spoke a-lot about the position and ended up with his "pick of the litter". Over-all it seems we had a decent draft.

I?m not so sure about Betts. Kongbo was far and away above Betts before his injury, the guy was on track to be drafted in a good spot in the NFL Draft. If they think he?s healthy, he?s a slam dunk, whether Betts is gone or not.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 03, 2019, 11:37:29 AM
I really like the Desjarlais and Kongbo picks. I think we reached at Oliveria and am not impressed with that pick. The rest seem fine. Overall, not a bad draft haul.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Ridermania on May 03, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
Bombers had a good draft.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 12:31:15 PM
I really like the Desjarlais and Kongbo picks. I think we reached at Oliveria and am not impressed with that pick. The rest seem fine. Overall, not a bad draft haul.

Kongbo is the best DL of entire draft.  His stock in the draft dropped because of his ACL or this kid would have been drafted in the NFL. I am not worried about his injury but the fact that he can be picked up an NFL team still.  Desjarlais will be a good one for us. Oliveria was a reach and would have probably been there at our 4th pick.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Jesse on May 03, 2019, 12:37:31 PM
Kongbo is the best DL of entire draft.  His stock in the draft dropped because of his ACL or this kid would have been drafted in the NFL. I am not worried about his injury but the fact that he can be picked up an NFL team still.  Desjarlais will be a good one for us. Oliveria was a reach and would have probably been there at our 4th pick.

He seems open to signing in the CFL. He may try for the NFL again after his first contract if everything goes according to plan.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 03, 2019, 12:43:47 PM
He seems open to signing in the CFL. He may try for the NFL again after his first contract if everything goes according to plan.

What Kongbo said:

"I was surprised I didn?t get drafted by an NFL team. But it just presented other opportunities," Kongbo said. "I didn?t want to hang my head too much. I knew I still had an opportunity to play, and that was in the CFL. It is what it is."

He added: "What really separates me from everyone else, really, is my athleticism and my speed, for my size. I move exceptionally well for a guy my size. I just have a high motor and just hungry to get to the football, hungry to get to the quarterback."

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/bombers-go-big-at-draft-509418912.html


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: booch on May 03, 2019, 12:58:34 PM
Kongbo  ripped up his knee pretty good with a torn ACL and MCL. Eke!

 I understand he will be back in July but is there any injury concerns more than a normal player?

MCL is not really a big deal..a lot of times with that tear you don't even have surgery for it and just allow it to heal unless its shredded


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 12:59:27 PM
That Giants rookie camp starts tomorrow and ends Saturday.

OK, that clarifies things. I was under the impression it was much later. However it doesn't rule out getting an offer for NFL TC although that doesn't seem like the norm. Hopefully that means he is able to attend Bomber TC on schedule.

He sounds like a player with very good upside. In theory he's probably going to be higher on our depth chart than our 2 2018 OL picks.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: booch on May 03, 2019, 01:00:55 PM

He is not too small to play DE. Ever heard of Von Miller? Same size as Betts.  Betts is raw and will have to develop whether he sticks or not depends how much patience a team has.  I have seen this kid play twice and was a beast in Usports.
Yeah, but still thats not a true equal comparison...also USports is a long way from the NFL or CFL..and in a lot of cases the NCAA...doubt he sticks..and if he does it will be languishing on a PR to never see the field..


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 01:03:53 PM
Maxx Forde is not guaranteed a roster spot

No but he may be on the opening day roster until Kongbo is healthy. Not being ready for his 1st TC delays his learning curve. Not the worst situation with a player with so much apparent upside.

That said does he draw NFL interest again when he's healthy? He sounds like a player that could be pushing to start in the CFL in the near future.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: booch on May 03, 2019, 01:15:31 PM
well hopefully we can ink him to 3 years..gets some value out of him and by that time maybe he will be replacing Jeffesron or Jeffcoat and making nice coin...time will tell


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 03, 2019, 01:17:55 PM
well hopefully we can ink him to 3 years..gets some value out of him and by that time maybe he will be replacing Jeffesron or Jeffcoat and making nice coin...time will tell

My guess is he wants a two-year deal but you never know. Maybe he doesn't have as much NFL hope as he lets on.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 01:24:58 PM
My guess is he wants a two-year deal but you never know. Maybe he doesn't have as much NFL hope as he lets on.

Since he'll miss quite a bit of 2018 we need a 3 year deal. What he wants and what we are able to get IDK.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: ModAdmin on May 03, 2019, 02:02:22 PM
In his interview, he said he was open to a multi-year contract so we'll see.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: trapper on May 03, 2019, 02:03:20 PM
I really like the Desjarlais and Kongbo picks. I think we reached at Oliveria and am not impressed with that pick. The rest seem fine. Overall, not a bad draft haul.

It was a good draft.  My concern is I have seen how far behind some players get when they miss TC as rookies.  Hopefully it won't happen with these guys. 


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue72 on May 03, 2019, 02:06:47 PM
Would the Bombers put him on the injury list right from day one and would it be game by game or longer to save some SMS. But you want him to practice as soon as possible.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
Yeah, but still thats not a true equal comparison...also USports is a long way from the NFL or CFL..and in a lot of cases the NCAA...doubt he sticks..and if he does it will be languishing on a PR to never see the field..

Yes I know.  I am wasn't comparing ability that is obvious, I was disputing his small frame that was mentioned.  There a lot of DE in the NFL his size. You have to remember size is one thing and quickness and finesse are another. Betts is very quick off the ball, his weakness is in his run stopping at times. He didn't dominate against the run vs Western in the 2 Vanier Cups.  I don't think at this time he will stick in the NFL.  Maybe practice roster player but will be back in the CFL sooner than later.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 02:23:33 PM
It was a good draft.  My concern is I have seen how far behind some players get when they miss TC as rookies.  Hopefully it won't happen with these guys. 

I don't think we have to be concerned about Kongbo being behind missing TC.  This kid is a "freak of nature" for a man this size, he moves very well.  He will contribute for us later in the year.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: booch on May 03, 2019, 02:40:11 PM
also a mini camp invite won't prevent any player from being in TC unless they sign...and I doubt the o-lineman we picked will get an offer...so he won't be behind anything


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 03, 2019, 02:48:09 PM
also a mini camp invite won't prevent any player from being in TC unless they sign...and I doubt the o-lineman we picked will get an offer...so he won't be behind anything

I agree, Drew Desjarlais is a fine OL but he is not NFL material at this time.  He will be at training camp.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 03, 2019, 03:12:03 PM
It was a good draft.  My concern is I have seen how far behind some players get when they miss TC as rookies.  Hopefully it won't happen with these guys. 

I'm far less concerned about a DL missing camp than I am an Olineman.  DLine do have some chemistry building, but they rotate in almost every play.  So chemistry isn't as important as it is on the oline, who play every play together, and rely on every part acting in harmony.  DL are anti-harmony, they are chaos and mayhem.  Maximum disruption every play.  Kongbo seems to have that ability, he will slot in when he is ready.

Desjarlais seems to have jumped up the boards, topping out at a mock draft #1 overall from off the chart in Sept.  Lets hope that he lives up to the climb.

I'm OK with grabbing a local RB, will be good for the room.  And if he is willing to play teams, and can do it well, great.

Griffiths sounds to be a solid player, nice to have competition / depth on the DL

Eli could be the brilliant pick of the draft, the braintrust has been in contact with him, they obviously think there is enough of a chance he comes to the CFL to take a flyer on him in the 4th round.  He sounds like a top prospect if his head is in the game.

If any of the later round picks make it out of camp, or have eligibility yet to season another year in college, great.  These are not picks that are expected to produce, rather they are longshots and works in progress, and if they bear fruit, bonus.  Other than that, hey are nice non-counter camp bodies.  


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 03, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
I don't think we have to be concerned about Kongbo being behind missing TC.  This kid is a "freak of nature" for a man this size, he moves very well.  He will contribute for us later in the year.

The learning curve is a lot shorter for a DL than most positions as well. The biggest thing will be if he is physically big and strong enough, and by all accounts he is.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 03, 2019, 03:22:41 PM
I agree, Drew Desjarlais is a fine OL but he is not NFL material at this time.  He will be at training camp.

I actually hope he gets to go to a NFL camp this year. 


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 04:48:08 PM
Would the Bombers put him on the injury list right from day one and would it be game by game or longer to save some SMS. But you want him to practice as soon as possible.

I wondered about that as well. It sounded as though he might not be ready until mid season so he'd be a 9 game IR candidate IMO if we sign him now.

That isn't the worst idea either. It costs some money but not against the SMS.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
I don't know much about any of the players in the draft. I get the general impression by those that know, we had a good draft.

Where each fits in and who each is pushing I also don't know. Probably a few have some eligibility left and a couple may end up on the PR.

Overall our current Canadian roster is looking pretty good but not without questions.

There are a few players that appear to have the confidence of O'Shea. The 2018 OL draft choices + Gray + 2019 draft choices will be watched by all. How quickly their learning curve is the question at the moment.  Where each falls into the grand scheme will be decided soon enough. There does seem to be an abundance of raw talent.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 03, 2019, 05:09:24 PM
Walters press conference post draft.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnGevZMZoQJX


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: TBURGESS on May 03, 2019, 05:12:01 PM
Good press conference.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 08:47:55 PM
The draft pool was a talented group according to all. A few may not be immediately available but many will be on opening day rosters across the CFL. Perhaps not in starting roles but in backup or ST spots.

As far as Winnipeg we had some impressive top round picks.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: booch on May 03, 2019, 08:49:54 PM
I can't see any of our picks not being here, and be safe to say the top 4 will stick for sure in some capacity, and quite possibly the receiver we picked too


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: TBURGESS on May 03, 2019, 08:57:04 PM
I can't see any of our picks not being here, and be safe to say the top 4 will stick for sure in some capacity, and quite possibly the receiver we picked too
Which current players do you see them replacing?


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 08:58:52 PM
I can't see any of our picks not being here, and be safe to say the top 4 will stick for sure in some capacity, and quite possibly the receiver we picked too

Any of our picks have eligibility left?  Any of the receivers or DB's have good ST experience / capabilities that improve their chances?

I think our 2018 draft choices might have to hold onto their hats from the new competition. That's not to suggest those players are bad but the new group might be better. That's never a bad thing to have these kinds of choices.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 03, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/03/pretty-excited-pick-kyle-walters-draft/

TOO GOOD TO PASS ON

There were a couple of potential red flags with University of Tennessee defensive lineman Jonathan Kongbo heading into Thursday?s CFL Draft.

First, he suffered a season-ending ACL injury last October in a game against Auburn. And second, his skill set is exceptional enough that there was some thought he might still get drafted in the NFL or sign a priority free agent deal.

The Bombers did their homework on both of those concerns before Thursday and comfortable in the answers on both, were thrilled to get him fifth overall.
?He?s the one where you do the film and you?re watching this long, athletic, aggressive, physical player playing at the University of Tennessee in the SEC against big-time opponents,? said Walters. ?As a group, Ted (Goveia), Mike (O?Shea) and I are going, ?You just don?t see this very often in our draft, the film that you?re watching.?

?In our mind he was the top prospect in just football ability and what you?re watching on film. Obviously, the concern was the NFL interest with a player like that and then he unfortunately suffered a knee injury and had to have surgery.

?With two first-round picks he?s just too good a talent to not take and take our time with him until he gets healthy.?


FINGERS WERE CROSSED

The Bombers wanted to address needs on the offensive and defensive lines with their first two picks in the draft and had hoped and prayed that Winnipegger Brady Oliveira, a running back to starred at North Dakota, would be available in the second round 14th overall.

Walters admitted there were some tense moments between the Kongbo selection at five and when the club was next scheduled to pick. And when Oliveira was still there, they pounced.

?I?ll tell you what, he takes football serious,? Walters said. ?We had him in here the other day and the first thing that comes across is this man loves football and takes it serious. He will do whatever it takes to get on the field, whatever is asked of him, it doesn?t matter.

?He is physical, strong, quicker than fast? it?s similar to what Andrew has. He?s quick in the hole, he?s physical. He was under-utilized as a receiver, which a lot of the backs are in the American game, but he?s got the ability to grow into a receiver and do the sort of stuff that Andrew does, which is why we liked him as a match in Paul?s (offensive coordinator Paul LaPolice?s) system and what we do here.?

A STEAL AT 34?

Football clubs are always cautious of doing the ?we can?t believe he was still there when we went to pick? thing, but the Bombers can?t believe centre Asotui Eli was still there when their slot in the fourth round, 34th overall, arrived.

Eli did not play last year after suffering a knee injury and there was some speculation the former star centre with the University of Hawaii Rainbow Warriors was done with football. It turns out Eli has a family connection Bombers Assistant GM Danny McManus, and the Bombers did their homework on whether he still had interest in playing.

He does. And if he can get his game back, this could be massive.

?You just look at his pedigree where he was a starter at Hawaii,? said Walters. ?His film is unbelievable playing big-time college opponents? big kid, quick in short areas, strong off the ball.

?His football future was uncertain to him and his family for a while. But recently he got the bug back and this is something he decided he wanted to do. We were in touch with him. Great kid. Wants to play football, committed? he was out of football for a year now, so it?s going to take him a bit to get it back and get back in football shape. But he?s healthy and ready to go and he?s a really interesting one, similar to Kongbo and at that spot in the draft way too talented and way too good a pedigree to not take a shot.

?If we can get him back to what we saw on film against UCLA and similar opponents he?s going to be really good.?

A WORD ON THE REST

DL Connor Griffiths: ?The general consensus is he was the best interior defensive lineman. His film was good, there?s nothing flashy about him but he?s a hard working tough kid. Probably at the combine his numbers are why he fell, in my opinion. His testing numbers weren?t great, but the strength of him is on the field. He?s a playmaker, not a tester. He?s going to fit into our locker room. He?s a great young man who is going to give you everything he?s got every single time.?

WR Malik Richards: ?Testing numbers were great? productive? he showed up at the combine and was right in the mix with all those other guys running fast 40s. He?s athletic, strong and was the last name on the board of receivers from an athletic standpoint.?

DL Tariq LaChance: ?We didn?t know much about him. He showed up at the Western Combine and we instantly called (Manitoba head coach) Brian Dobie after seeing this kid for 10 minutes and said, ?Who is this kid with the Bisons helmet?? Brian walked me through the whole story and he?s got a bit of a history that is not a traditional way of getting here. We had him in here a few years ago when he was with the Rifles as a territorial pick, when he was a fullback. He?s super-athletic. Very explosive. We showed Glenn Young his tape, his combine tape, and Glenn raved about him. He?s different. He?s close to 260 pounds, it?s the way he runs and he?s violent on the field. There?s not a lot of football in his past, but he?s going to come in and get coached and I think his upside is very high.?

DB Nick Hallett: ?2018 was a little disappointing for him because he dealt with some injuries. When you go back and watch his 2017, he was as good a defensive back as there was out there? he was running around, making plays, striking. He?s going come in and take reps at safety and play special teams.?

DB Kerfalla Exum?: ?When we went through and watched his special-teams film? you could make the case that out of anybody he was the best special-teams player at the draft with his want-to and his attitude. He?ll be much more further along than other guys on special teams because he?s done it at the U Sports level.?


So, McManus has a familial tie with Eli, and the kid wants to play... Iguess no one else had that info, and the Bombers felt secure enough that he would drop to them in the 4th round...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: blue_or_die on May 03, 2019, 10:13:17 PM
Walters press conference post draft.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnGevZMZoQJX

Lol, so honest and talkative.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 10:20:50 PM
Which current players do you see them replacing?

The bottom 3rd of our Canadian roster is still pretty good. We don't really have any bad players any longer to replace per se.

Hecht is not a bad veteran to have around but we have Firlotte coming back from 2018 draft. Janke was added in free agency and we drafted 2 DB's this draft. Conteh is here too.

So if neither of the 2019 draftees has eligibility left, something may have to give to find space for everyone. Age, SMS and upside of new choices will come into play.

Augustine may be in a fight on the AR roster with Oliveria.

Ouelet De Carlo & Koczwara will battle the OL players we drafted.

I wouldn't define any of those I identified as bad players. Just saying they might have the most to prove against the competition in TC.



Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: SSC on May 03, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
Great draft! Excellent job gentlemen!Cheers!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 04, 2019, 03:46:29 AM
I really appreciate everyone's take on the draft, nice well rounded picks


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Bomber Diehard on May 04, 2019, 01:22:16 PM
I hear the Bombers wanted Betts but he was taken at #3 just before Bombers picks.
Betts is much similar to Chick, Edmonton got a good one.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 04, 2019, 01:25:13 PM
I hear the Bombers wanted Betts but he was taken at #3 just before Bombers picks.
Betts is much similar to Chick, Edmonton got a good one.

Betts was probably on everyone's wish list but Kongbo is sounding very intriguing.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 04, 2019, 04:27:39 PM
I hear the Bombers wanted Betts but he was taken at #3 just before Bombers picks.
Betts is much similar to Chick, Edmonton got a good one.

Kongbo is better than Betts overall.  Betts struggles against the run at times but is a slightly better pass rusher.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Gilbert on May 04, 2019, 07:50:56 PM
How much speed agility etc do players lose after serious knee injuries like picks 2 and 5 suffered?  I know it must vary, but generally speaking, how hard is it to return to previous form?

Thank you


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: booch on May 04, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Kobongo is/was best football talent in draft..I think we were targeting even if Betts was there..he's also going to be more versatile..Betts is good off a jump on the outside...in Canadian college but pro is a different game..and he can be easily neutralized..plus he is weak against the run..he has work to do on his game testing numbers aren't the mark of a dominant player


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Nic16 on May 05, 2019, 02:54:09 PM
https://theratiobreaker.com/2019/05/05/2019-cfl-draft-class-rankings-and-analysis/ (https://theratiobreaker.com/2019/05/05/2019-cfl-draft-class-rankings-and-analysis/)


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 05, 2019, 04:01:42 PM
They could have picked a receiver. But maybe it's a good thing. We usually pick a player that no one else has rated high. Some teams picked up some good receivers. We always find our team short at this position.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Jockitch on May 05, 2019, 04:41:35 PM
Bombers did pick up a receiver ...... Malik Richards


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: kkc60 on May 05, 2019, 07:18:50 PM
They could have picked a receiver. But maybe it's a good thing. We usually pick a player that no one else has rated high. Some teams picked up some good receivers. We always find our team short at this position.
Demski, Simonise, Petermann, Wolitarsky. Taking a receiver with any of our top picks would have been a waste. We seldom carried 5 Canadian receivers last year and there wasn't a sure fire stud available at 14


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 05, 2019, 09:40:15 PM
Demski, Simonise, Petermann, Wolitarsky. Taking a receiver with any of our top picks would have been a waste. We seldom carried 5 Canadian receivers last year and there wasn't a sure fire stud available at 14

Depends whether he can go back to university for 2019. Depth includes building for the beyond 2019 etc.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: PurpleReign on May 05, 2019, 11:06:38 PM
Depends whether he can go back to university for 2019. Depth includes building for the beyond 2019 etc.

Malik has played 4 years, so he is eligible for a 5th year if he doesn't stick with the Bombers this year.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 06, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
How much speed agility etc do players lose after serious knee injuries like picks 2 and 5 suffered?  I know it must vary, but generally speaking, how hard is it to return to previous form?

Thank you

Knee injuries are not what they used to be. The prognosis for complete recovery is usually very high.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 06, 2019, 12:00:14 PM
I'm far less concerned about a DL missing camp than I am an Olineman.  DLine do have some chemistry building, but they rotate in almost every play.  So chemistry isn't as important as it is on the oline, who play every play together, and rely on every part acting in harmony.  DL are anti-harmony, they are chaos and mayhem.  Maximum disruption every play.  Kongbo seems to have that ability, he will slot in when he is ready.

Desjarlais seems to have jumped up the boards, topping out at a mock draft #1 overall from off the chart in Sept.  Lets hope that he lives up to the climb.

I'm OK with grabbing a local RB, will be good for the room.  And if he is willing to play teams, and can do it well, great.

Griffiths sounds to be a solid player, nice to have competition / depth on the DL

Eli could be the brilliant pick of the draft, the braintrust has been in contact with him, they obviously think there is enough of a chance he comes to the CFL to take a flyer on him in the 4th round.  He sounds like a top prospect if his head is in the game.

If any of the later round picks make it out of camp, or have eligibility yet to season another year in college, great.  These are not picks that are expected to produce, rather they are longshots and works in progress, and if they bear fruit, bonus.  Other than that, hey are nice non-counter camp bodies.  

Tavita is an absolute steal IF we sign him. I spent the past few days scouring the internet for details on him. Many scouts saying he was/is easily the best OL of this draft and a probable number one pick had he not been injured and telling everyone he wasn't interested. He has a year of rust and lack of conditioning he will have to recover from, but he is an absolute blue chipper. McManus knowing him and getting confirmation of his interest is the coup of the draft. Only problem is like Couture, and Desjarlais he is best suited for Centre.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 01:43:44 PM
Malik has played 4 years, so he is eligible for a 5th year if he doesn't stick with the Bombers this year.

Good to know. I can't see him beating out the current Canadian receivers right off the bat. Sending him back for another year is not a bad idea and he gets a chance to learn in TC.

Now if he can do something special on ST's then he has a chance to make the AR I suppose.

We can't add all 9 draft choices to the 2019 roster or PR. Building depth for 2020 still makes him a good draft choice.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
Tavita is an absolute steal IF we sign him. I spent the past few days scouring the internet for details on him. Many scouts saying he was/is easily the best OL of this draft and a probable number one pick had he not been injured and telling everyone he wasn't interested. He has a year of rust and lack of conditioning he will have to recover from, but he is an absolute blue chipper. McManus knowing him and getting confirmation of his interest is the coup of the draft. Only problem is like Couture, and Desjarlais he is best suited for Centre.

Having 3 C on the roster is not a bad thing... 6th man usually is an C.  And you probably want at least on C on the PR...  when Goossen retired, I remember the hue and cry that we did not have a legit starting centre on the roster (some don't think Couture is there yet).  If Eli comes to camp in shape and ready to play, or Dejarlais is ready to rock, we could have a great battle at C.   

Drafting 2 C's after having a young C retire seems like a very good use of DP...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 06, 2019, 02:38:51 PM
Good to know. I can't see him beating out the current Canadian receivers right off the bat. Sending him back for another year is not a bad idea and he gets a chance to learn in TC.

Now if he can do something special on ST's then he has a chance to make the AR I suppose.

We can't add all 9 draft choices to the 2019 roster or PR. Building depth for 2020 still makes him a good draft choice.

so how does that work with national players post draft contract wise when they don't make the AR and are sent to the PR?

any idea how their contract is structured? I ask because we talk about being paid more, so, are the bump in pay come as a signing bonus or do they have a PR contract that pays them the same terms of their originally signed contract as opposed to the PR minimum?  just curious how it works with them...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: the paw on May 06, 2019, 02:44:00 PM
so how does that work with national players post draft contract wise when they don't make the AR and are sent to the PR?

any idea how their contract is structured? I ask because we talk about being paid more, so, are the bump in pay come as a signing bonus or do they have a PR contract that pays them the same terms of their originally signed contract as opposed to the PR minimum?  just curious how it works with them...

PR money can be anywhere between the mandated minimum and their actual contract.  in practice, it would almost never be at the upper end for a draft choice.  If a guy is a valuable enough commodity to pay a full contract rate, then he is likely to be scooped off the PR by another team.  Exceeding the PR minimum is more commonly used if you get a guy who maybe has some NFL of CFL games under his belt, he's 28 years old, and just isn't willing to hang around town for $750 a week.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 02:54:15 PM
so how does that work with national players post draft contract wise when they don't make the AR and are sent to the PR?

any idea how their contract is structured? I ask because we talk about being paid more, so, are the bump in pay come as a signing bonus or do they have a PR contract that pays them the same terms of their originally signed contract as opposed to the PR minimum?  just curious how it works with them...

I'm not 100% certain. However players on the PR can get more than the minimum amounts, whether they are imports or Canadians. OTOH it would be unusual to put a high pick draft choice on the PR. I'd be more inclined to see him moved to the 2 man DR or 1 game IR.

For higher draft choices there might be some fear of being scooped by another team. So some teams may choose to 1 game IR a draft choice that is still not ready for the AR but they don't want to lose. That's why there is an advantage where a player still has another year in university.

We may see this type of scenario with Kongbo for example. we don't want to give him more time to end up with an NFL offer. So we may sign him immediately and then 6 game IR him. While that costs money it's money not counted against SMS.

On the flip side we've kept Foketi on the 2 man DR for 2 years at full salary. It's great insurance if you need to use it but if you don't use it, then it's more of a question. I mentioned it's a risk reward question with no perfect answer. What we're doing is not a bad thing but it still falls down to roster size, DI's, ratio and SMS questions.

Foketi might just be on a 1 year contact now? So if we don't end up needing him we might have been better with a rookie on the PR being developed. The catch is that Foketi will be much more familiar with the playbook and could step in immediately if needed.



Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 02:55:58 PM
PR money can be anywhere between the mandated minimum and their actual contract.  in practice, it would almost never be at the upper end for a draft choice.  If a guy is a valuable enough commodity to pay a full contract rate, then he is likely to be scooped off the PR by another team.  Exceeding the PR minimum is more commonly used if you get a guy who maybe has some NFL of CFL games under his belt, he's 28 years old, and just isn't willing to hang around town for $750 a week.

Yes but if you are going to pay close to full game salary you may as well just use the 1 game IR. That way he can still be activated any given week and is protected. It also allows another player to fill a spot on the PR roster of 10 player limit.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 06, 2019, 02:56:14 PM
thx guys, good to know...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 03:10:01 PM
Yes but if you are going to pay close to full game salary you may as well just use the 1 game IR. That way he can still be activated any given week and is protected. It also allows another player to fill a spot on the PR roster of 10 players.

But if he is not injured, he can refuse being put on the 1 game. 

You can actually pay him more than min wage contract when he is on the PR, you can pay him Reilly money if you like.  Not smart to.. but you could.

Protecting players that are that deep on the DC is not a roster make or break situation.  As we saw with Spooner, he chose to stay on our PR rather than go to BC... not sure why, but had he gone, it would not have affect us at all.  Nice to keep the option, but not a roster breaker...

If a player is a development body that has a high ceiling but is not near ready yet, maybe you go to extreme mode in protecting him with an AR sized PR salary, or a spot on the IR... otherwise, there are better ways to spend roster spots and SMS...


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 03:24:07 PM
But if he is not injured, he can refuse being put on the 1 game. 

You can actually pay him more than min wage contract when he is on the PR, you can pay him Reilly money if you like.  Not smart to.. but you could.

Protecting players that are that deep on the DC is not a roster make or break situation.  As we saw with Spooner, he chose to stay on our PR rather than go to BC... not sure why, but had he gone, it would not have affect us at all.  Nice to keep the option, but not a roster breaker...

If a player is a development body that has a high ceiling but is not near ready yet, maybe you go to extreme mode in protecting him with an AR sized PR salary, or a spot on the IR... otherwise, there are better ways to spend roster spots and SMS...

He can but why would he refuse? If it benefits the team by allowing another player to be activated game day as a higher need / probability. If he's a me 1st guy we should be looking for elsewhere in those situations.

There is no perfect answer and yes every solution has an SMS impact.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 03:26:48 PM
He can but why would he refuse? If it benefits the team by allowing another player to be activated game day as a higher need / probability. If he's a me 1st guy we should be looking for elsewhere in those situations.

There is no perfect answer and yes every solution has an SMS impact.

He would refuse if he wants to play, and thinks he has a legit opportunity elsewhere.  We see this happen regularly. 


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 03:33:50 PM
He would refuse if he wants to play, and thinks he has a legit opportunity elsewhere.  We see this happen regularly. 

On the 6 game IR yes, 1 game no. We don't see that happen regularly.  How is he going to play if he's on the DR all season? Unless he's activated during the warm ups ( rare ) then he won't play until the following week. He still gets to practice on the 1 game IR.

We keeping hearing players WANT to stay in Winnipeg because of culture. I agree.  Foketi re-signed in 2018 knowing he probably wouldn't play much unless there was an injury. He could have chosen to leave for a team that needed him to compete to start.

Who goes on the DR is situational. If we had lost Foketi in 2018 we'd probably have just kept an import rookie on the PR since we didn't have another 2 year vet that Foketi was at the time.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: blue_or_die on May 06, 2019, 04:14:59 PM
https://theratiobreaker.com/2019/05/05/2019-cfl-draft-class-rankings-and-analysis/ (https://theratiobreaker.com/2019/05/05/2019-cfl-draft-class-rankings-and-analysis/)

Great read! Thanks!!


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 06, 2019, 04:55:22 PM
He would refuse if he wants to play, and thinks he has a legit opportunity elsewhere.  We see this happen regularly. 

No, we don't see this happen regularly. Please cite one example of this happening.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: kkc60 on May 06, 2019, 09:07:27 PM
No, we don't see this happen regularly. Please cite one example of this happening.
Same. I have never heard of it. Of course one can speculate but even then it's a reach


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Tiger on May 07, 2019, 05:33:05 PM
Good picks by Bomber management, scouts and coaches.  I hope it all goes well.  I think we have two OL that could be god like or busts.  Time will tell.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: blue_or_die on May 07, 2019, 05:50:23 PM
Good picks by Bomber management, scouts and coaches.  I hope it all goes well.  I think we have two OL that could be god like or busts.  Time will tell.

Hey man good to see you are still around! Hope all is well.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 07, 2019, 06:14:12 PM
Good picks by Bomber management, scouts and coaches.  I hope it all goes well.  I think we have two OL that could be god like or busts.  Time will tell.

Well if you keep drafting blue chippers you're bound to get something out of at least one of them. We drafted two blue chip OL prospects this year and have Gray as well. If we go 2 out of 3 we're golden.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Tiger on May 07, 2019, 06:24:07 PM
Hey man good to see you are still around! Hope all is well.

You too.  Yes lurking.  Not so much to add or speculate about. I bought my season tickets again.  I think I am going to grab Labour Day tickets in Regina this year.  We'll see when the single game tickets go on sale.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: Tiger on May 07, 2019, 06:44:10 PM
Well if you keep drafting blue chippers you're bound to get something out of at least one of them. We drafted two blue chip OL prospects this year and have Gray as well. If we go 2 out of 3 we're golden.

I hope so.  It's always a bit of a crap shoot.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: GCn19 on May 07, 2019, 06:45:30 PM
I hope so.  It's always a bit of a crap shoot.

For sure. That's why every year you draft OL...because only some pan out.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: RebusRankin on May 07, 2019, 11:29:48 PM
He would refuse if he wants to play, and thinks he has a legit opportunity elsewhere.  We see this happen regularly. 

Name some examples


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Bomber Draft Picks - May 2, 2019 @ 7:00 PM CT
Post by: kkc60 on May 08, 2019, 02:36:07 AM
Name some examples
Sadly he knows he lied and will just dance around or outright avoid responding