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Title: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: The Zipp on April 05, 2019, 09:56:55 PM
From his twitter:

A lot of people ask me what my next chapter in football is, but I don?t go for one chapter- I go for an entire book. #CFL  #farfromdone


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: pjrocksmb on April 05, 2019, 11:36:05 PM
awesome


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Jesse on April 06, 2019, 12:09:47 PM
Apparently he's going to one of the Riders open tryout camps.

He's old as sin now, but it'd be cool to see him in the league again.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Blue In BC on April 06, 2019, 02:25:46 PM
His last full season in 2017 he had a 45.0 yard average on 92 punts. Career wise his average was 44+ yards.

It's a little deceiving with how many NFL punts are not caught / returned. But it does show he still has a strong leg.

OTOH he has enough NFL money to buy the CFL. lol


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Pigskin on April 06, 2019, 09:59:57 PM
But he can still punt the ball. He is also a Regina boy, has tons on money, and is probably living out his childhood dream.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: pjrocksmb on April 06, 2019, 10:48:31 PM
he could likely punt until 50 if he did the milt stegall work out / diet plan


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Horseman on April 07, 2019, 02:52:04 PM
Bob Cameron punted until he was 80, I think.;-)


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Blue In BC on April 07, 2019, 04:26:38 PM
I think Ryan can still play at a high level. Why he'd want to do that for CFL money I have no idea. Teams have been struggling finding Canadian kickers more than they used to but some still exist.

How much is a Canadian punter worth in the Canadian market at the moment if it forces a team towards 2 kickers on the roster? Not sure but it would be interesting to see him back.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Jesse on April 07, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
I think Ryan can still play at a high level. Why he'd want to do that for CFL money I have no idea. Teams have been struggling finding Canadian kickers more than they used to but some still exist.

How much is a Canadian punter worth in the Canadian market at the moment if it forces a team towards 2 kickers on the roster? Not sure but it would be interesting to see him back.

Just to stay busy? Especially if it's for the Riders.

You might be able to convince him to play for the minimum if he's just doing it for kicks (he he).


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: blue girl on April 07, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
I think Ryan can still play at a high level. Why he'd want to do that for CFL money I have no idea. Teams have been struggling finding Canadian kickers more than they used to but some still exist.

How much is a Canadian punter worth in the Canadian market at the moment if it forces a team towards 2 kickers on the roster? Not sure but it would be interesting to see him back.
Maybe he just wants to play football. With the money he's made in the NFL a team that needs a punter could probably get him cheap.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: dd on April 08, 2019, 03:49:58 AM
No doubt he still wants to play, and will, for the Riders this year , and will do it very well. It?s not like he s a running back. Cripes, Lui Pasaglia, Bob Cameron and Paul Mccallum all played when they were older than Ryan. Can?t wait to see him play!! Betcha he can still boot the crap out of the ball !!


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 08, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
Jon Ryan isn't the leg he was when he left for the NFL, but he is still a very good punter.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: blue_or_die on April 08, 2019, 12:04:23 PM
He will probably get some love from Bomber fans.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 08, 2019, 12:30:08 PM
I'm happy for him if he gets to extend his career a couple more years. Would love to see him back in the CFL...even if it is with the Riders. I can't see many teams with a good young kicker cutting them loose for a 38 year old punter though. Riders do sound like a good landing spot for them as Bartel is no spring chicken either.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 08, 2019, 12:34:38 PM
Jon Ryan isn't the leg he was when he left for the NFL, but he is still a very good punter.

Which is exactly why he'll probably end up in the CFL again. I'd say he's still got a few seasons left in him.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: The Zipp on April 08, 2019, 12:36:33 PM
I honestly don't pay that much attention to others teams punters but isn't Bartel pretty good?


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: ModAdmin on April 08, 2019, 01:23:28 PM
Jon Ryan works out for Saskatchewan Roughriders

Regina-born punter Jon Ryan participated in two workouts with the Saskatchewan Roughriders at a free-agent camp Sunday in Vero Beach, Fla...........

https://leaderpost.com/sports/football/cfl/saskatchewan-roughriders/jon-ryan-works-out-for-saskatchewan-roughriders


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 08, 2019, 04:29:52 PM
Jon Ryan works out for Saskatchewan Roughriders

Regina-born punter Jon Ryan participated in two workouts with the Saskatchewan Roughriders at a free-agent camp Sunday in Vero Beach, Fla...........

https://leaderpost.com/sports/football/cfl/saskatchewan-roughriders/jon-ryan-works-out-for-saskatchewan-roughriders

I believe he will also be attending an Argo tryout camp.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 08, 2019, 05:09:37 PM
I honestly don't pay that much attention to others teams punters but isn't Bartel pretty good?

Yes, he is....and he's gotten a ton of work the past few years. This would be a kind of lateral move imo.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 08, 2019, 05:10:44 PM
Which is exactly why he'll probably end up in the CFL again. I'd say he's still got a few seasons left in him.

He's a pretty athletic guy for a kicker, so yea...I agree.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 08, 2019, 05:51:54 PM
In the following interview it sounds like Ryan just wants to play football as long as he can and doesn't care where it happens, he may well play into his mid 40's.  He mentions 3 or 4 other CFL teams being interested in addition to the Riders and Argos.

https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-ts5ba-ad4c07#.XKrsqtZYZl8.twitter


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: theaardvark on April 08, 2019, 06:37:00 PM
Will sell a few jerseys and seats for whoever signs him and might divert some eyes from south of the border...


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: blue_or_die on April 08, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
If I made it big and got to play in the NFL and retire in my late 30s a millionaire, and played the least physical position in the game, I would say hellz yeah to living in my home town and playing for the team I cheered for growing up.

It would be a fantastic story. Do not confuse my message- Riders still suck, obvs.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 09, 2019, 01:48:51 PM
Will sell a few jerseys and seats for whoever signs him and might divert some eyes from south of the border...

He'll do more than that. I realize you weren't a Bomber fan yet when Ryan was in the CFL, but he is a top notch punter. When he was here before he was easily the best punter I had ever seen, and I watched Bobby Cameron for 20 years.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: bluengold204 on April 09, 2019, 01:57:02 PM
He'll do more than that. I realize you weren't a Bomber fan yet when Ryan was in the CFL, but he is a top notch punter. When he was here before he was easily the best punter I had ever seen, and I watched Bobby Cameron for 20 years.

Really people get that excited for a punter?


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 09, 2019, 02:14:00 PM
Really people get that excited for a punter?

As excited as one gets for a punter. True they are not 1000 yard receivers, or QBs, but their work has an immense impact on every game. Whoever signs him is getting a very good ST player. He won't sell jerseys or put bums in the seat directly, but his contribution will help his team have a better chance to win....and winning sells jerseys and puts bums in seats.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: BlueInCgy on April 09, 2019, 02:33:42 PM
I remember Ryan absolutely crushing a couple of 70(ish) yard punts, and not all were wind assisted.  So, yeah, as excited as you can get about a punter, he would be the one you'd get excited for.

As to what he can do today, who knows, but pretty sure he can still beat someone out for a job.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 09, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
I have zero doubt he can beat someone out for a job in the CFL. The questions will be SMS/age and whether any teams want to part with a younger kicker to make room for him.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Jesse on April 09, 2019, 03:58:51 PM
Really people get that excited for a punter?

During the two years Ryan was here, he was literally the only reason fans would get out of their seats to applaud.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on April 09, 2019, 04:36:10 PM
During the two years Ryan was here, he was literally the only reason fans would get out of their seats to applaud.

How else did he get so good at punting?!?!


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: pjrocksmb on April 10, 2019, 12:43:28 AM
Really people get that excited for a punter?

I do when they are really good.

He'll do more than that. I realize you weren't a Bomber fan yet when Ryan was in the CFL, but he is a top notch punter. When he was here before he was easily the best punter I had ever seen, and I watched Bobby Cameron for 20 years.

Bob was the best all weather punter I have ever seen.  Yes Ryan's leg is incredible but Bob could punt in the cold and wind as good any anyone.  I hope he comes back as it would be cool to see him again.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: 66 Chevelle on April 10, 2019, 12:56:32 AM
During the two years Ryan was here, he was literally the only reason fans would get out of their seats to applaud.

that's pretty sad, lol... much have been a couple or really lean years...

How else did he get so good at punting?!?!

that's pretty funny... yet makes a lot of sense... lol...


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 10, 2019, 01:11:29 AM
I remember Ryan absolutely crushing a couple of 70(ish) yard punts, and not all were wind assisted.  So, yeah, as excited as you can get about a punter, he would be the one you'd get excited for.


Fair to say you were "over the moon"?   ;D


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: In Motion on April 11, 2019, 04:16:18 AM
I get excited about punters!  Field position is very important.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: DM83 on April 14, 2019, 05:46:27 AM
Yes field position is very important.
I would ,appreciate  my QB, Oline and receivers and RB getting the field position


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: 66 Chevelle on April 14, 2019, 02:38:43 PM
Yes field position is very important.
I would ,appreciate  my QB, Oline and receivers and RB getting the field position

but it does hurt to give them a head start!  ;D


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: ModAdmin on April 15, 2019, 03:02:10 AM
Three teams apparently involved with Jon Ryan's possible return to the CF?L....Saskatchewan, Toronto and one other "undisclosed" team...

CFL Headlines
‏ @CFL_Headlines
8h8 hours ago

Decision time is approaching for Jon Ryan: Three CFL teams are interested in Regina-born punter Jon Ryan, who hopes to reach a decision on his football future within two weeks. https://leaderpost.com/sports/football/cfl/saskatchewan-roughriders/decision-time-is-approaching-for-jon-ryan?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ?  via @robvanstone


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: GCn19 on April 15, 2019, 01:36:45 PM
that's pretty sad, lol... much have been a couple or really lean years...

that's pretty funny... yet makes a lot of sense... lol...

More like a couple of lean decades.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on April 19, 2019, 08:05:26 AM
I wonder how much money those teams can afford to pay Ryan if they get him.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Ridermania on April 19, 2019, 12:42:36 PM
Based on his long NFL career, it's not about money, just loves the game.

I think he would only be in the $80K - $90K range.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: bluebeard on April 19, 2019, 09:36:14 PM
Ryan's home, I believe, is in Seattle.  BC needs a kicker so he could go there and be close to home.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: Blue In BC on April 20, 2019, 07:01:48 PM
Based on his long NFL career, it's not about money, just loves the game.

I think he would only be in the $80K - $90K range.

Just because he has money doesn't mean he doesn't want money. I can understand a player wanting to continue his career. In this situation where he has " money " does he want to move away from home and family for 6 months for CFL money?

Sure he could move his family from his multi million $$ home in Vancouver, or he could buy another multi million dollar home in Vancouver. It's one thing to do that in the NFL when the contract is millions and goes with the territory. I'm not so sure the desire to play overrules the business sense though.

Would like to see him back. Vancouver makes sense because of proximity to Seattle. It's just a guess though.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: theaardvark on April 21, 2019, 04:06:24 PM
Ocho Cinqo came to play and didn't care about the cash... just sayin.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: The Zipp on May 14, 2019, 01:55:16 AM
Signed by the riders....released Bartel...seems kind of dumb

From Twitter:
I can also confirm that punter Jon Ryan has signed with the #riders. Josh Bartel has been released according to #cfl transactions. News of @JonRyan9's signing was first reported by @rodpedersen.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: kkc60 on May 14, 2019, 03:37:16 AM
Ocho Cinqo came to play and didn't care about the cash... just sayin.

I doubt Ryan cares too much about money but you're crazy if you think Ochocinco earned less or the same as Ryan over the course of his career


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: kkc60 on May 14, 2019, 03:38:20 AM
Signed by the riders....released Bartel...seems kind of dumb

From Twitter:
I can also confirm that punter Jon Ryan has signed with the #riders. Josh Bartel has been released according to #cfl transactions. News of @JonRyan9's signing was first reported by @rodpedersen.
Bartel seems like a good punter but if Ryan is better I see no issue. I would have let them battle it out at camp but only so many roster spots to go around


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL??
Post by: BigBlueCrew on May 14, 2019, 01:48:32 PM
I get excited about punters!  Field position is very important.

Ah the good ole' kicking game. Doesn't get enough love when they make a good kick because that's their only job and they should do it right. But make a bad kick and you better run and hide. Which is why all kickers should live in an apartment so there isn't easy access to a front door or mailbox.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: Horseman on May 14, 2019, 01:52:26 PM
Ah the good ole' kicking game. Doesn't get enough love when they make a good kick because that's their only job and they should do it right. But make a bad kick and you better run and hide. Which is why all kickers should live in an apartment so there isn't easy access to a front door or mailbox.

Or in Sask, access to a front lawn...right Paul McCallum!


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: GCn19 on May 14, 2019, 01:53:20 PM
Based on his long NFL career, it's not about money, just loves the game.

I think he would only be in the $80K - $90K range.

Reports are that he is making similar to Rob Maver which would put him around 100k. No hometown discount, and no love of the game lowball contract, although it seems Rider fans always expect a discount. Highest paid punter in CFL.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 14, 2019, 02:06:49 PM
He will be the Rider's QB comes Labour Day.  ;D


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: drahgon on May 14, 2019, 02:31:47 PM
Good for Jon that he gets to live out a lifelong dream (I assume) to play for his hometown team.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: trapper on May 14, 2019, 10:47:37 PM
Reports are that he is making similar to Rob Maver which would put him around 100k. No hometown discount, and no love of the game lowball contract, although it seems Rider fans always expect a discount. Highest paid punter in CFL.

100k is a lot of sms for a punter...that said, I heard someone say the Riders will recoup that in Jon Ryan jersey sales before the season starts...not exactly incorrect. 

I imagine he'll be able to double that in off field marketing opportunities....so long as he doesn't stump for his brother in law....



Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: blue_or_die on May 15, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
100k is a lot of sms for a punter...that said, I heard someone say the Riders will recoup that in Jon Ryan jersey sales before the season starts...not exactly incorrect. 

I imagine he'll be able to double that in off field marketing opportunities....so long as he doesn't stump for his brother in law....



Riders can use jersey sales to top up the SMS? Sweet. Explains everything.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: trapper on May 15, 2019, 03:25:38 AM
Riders can use jersey sales to top up the SMS? Sweet. Explains everything.

Football is a business.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: GCn19 on May 15, 2019, 11:14:17 AM
100k is a lot of sms for a punter...that said, I heard someone say the Riders will recoup that in Jon Ryan jersey sales before the season starts...not exactly incorrect. 

I imagine he'll be able to double that in off field marketing opportunities....so long as he doesn't stump for his brother in law....



I have zero doubt the Riders will recoup some of the money from jersey sales etc. I highly doubt that Ryan brings in 100k of merch sales but he will bring some in. However, Ryan making 100k means one less vet elsewhere on the team due to the SMS. Personally I have no issue with that because the Riders will rely heavily on STs this year to help offset a garbage offence. I am simply responding to the quacks over at Riderfans who thought that Ryan would play for league minimum.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2019, 12:16:31 PM
I have zero doubt the Riders will recoup some of the money from jersey sales etc. I highly doubt that Ryan brings in 100k of merch sales but he will bring some in. However, Ryan making 100k means one less vet elsewhere on the team due to the SMS. Personally I have no issue with that because the Riders will rely heavily on STs this year to help offset a garbage offence. I am simply responding to the quacks over at Riderfans who thought that Ryan would play for league minimum.

Probably not, but on the other hand, I don't think money is his prime motivation for returning to the CFL. How much he really cares about making 75K compared to 120K is really anyone's guess. My gut tells me it wouldn't really be a sticking point. The Riders could certainly have got a sweetheart deal.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: blue_or_die on May 15, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
Football is a business.

Right. OK, then, I don't understand your point. The cap hit on Ryan is irrelevant to how much is made in merch. It means you make some money for the club at the expense of having more talent and therefore more success on the field, which has got to be worth far more.


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: trapper on May 15, 2019, 06:03:54 PM
Right. OK, then, I don't understand your point. The cap hit on Ryan is irrelevant to how much is made in merch. It means you make some money for the club at the expense of having more talent and therefore more success on the field, which has got to be worth far more.

Players are signed to "bring people through the gates" all the time.  The purpose of the business is to make money. Winning is one way to do that...a big way...but there are other ways too.  The $100k incluses all incentives/bonuses.  Which means he's going to have to have a good year to get all that money.

With a bad offense....that punter is critical. 


Title: Re: Jon Ryan back in the CFL with the Riders
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 15, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
Players are signed to "bring people through the gates" all the time.  The purpose of the business is to make money. Winning is one way to do that...a big way...but there are other ways too.  The $100k incluses all incentives/bonuses.  Which means he's going to have to have a good year to get all that money.

With a bad offense....that punter is critical. 
aging one at that. Maybe Riders can sign Westwood while they are at it.