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Title: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: BlueInCgy on March 26, 2019, 07:40:50 PM
https://3downnation.com/2019/03/26/bombers-exploring-nfl-pre-season-game-in-winnipeg/

Looks like Saskatchewan declined and the WFC might be interested.

I'm neither for or against an NFL game in a CFL stadium.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Jesse on March 26, 2019, 08:11:47 PM
I am also neither for or against it.

If we think it can make money, go for it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Fire101 on March 26, 2019, 08:18:19 PM
I would like to know how much they plan on charging per ticket.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 26, 2019, 09:07:59 PM
Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB

Any CFL team that offers to host an NFL pre season game should have their franchise revoked.  And I might not just be kidding.



I wonder how Bob feels about the idea....


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ridermania on March 26, 2019, 09:27:44 PM
NFL game is scheduled for the evening of Friday August 23rd ( Packers vs Raiders ).

Riders host Ottawa on Saturday August 25th at 5PM.

Way too tight of a time frame to get the field back to CFL standards.

Winnipeg is on the road that week-end and the next, so lots of time to get the field set-up again.

Hope it happens for Winnipeg!

 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on March 26, 2019, 09:39:18 PM
NFL game is scheduled for the evening of Friday August 23rd ( Packers vs Raiders ).

Riders host Ottawa on Saturday August 25th at 5PM.

Way too tight of a time frame to get the field back to CFL standards.

Winnipeg is on the road that week-end and the next, so lots of time to get the field set-up again.

Hope it happens for Winnipeg!

 
Has anyone mentioned how Regina was going to be able to set up the field for an NFL game as the field markings are stitched into the field.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on March 26, 2019, 09:44:24 PM
I would go depending on the price of tickets...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on March 26, 2019, 10:35:06 PM
Coolio.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: dd on March 27, 2019, 02:37:15 AM
Who cares!!?! Big Whoopedy doo , couldn?t give a rip about this

 I m with Bob on this one


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 27, 2019, 03:09:14 AM
I?m in


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: sting on March 27, 2019, 04:02:16 AM
I would say this is fake news. Valour FC have a game at home Thursday August 22nd. I doubt the NFL would be okay with not having access to the stadium the day before the game.  The Bombers would not move the soccer game either as they would lose all credibility with the soccer club season ticket base. Not something you want to do with a first year club moving a regular season game for a game not even involving a team from Winnipeg. It would show the soccer fans they could care less about the club and only want to make money.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: DM83 on March 27, 2019, 04:13:14 AM
Huh!?
Lining a field takes a few hours


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on March 27, 2019, 04:25:52 AM
Huh!?
Lining a field takes a few hours

I doubt that any CFL team would approve of someone coming in and painting over all of the yard markings, narrowing the sidelines, and moving the endzones on the existing field turf... either they would pull up the existing field turf, put down their own, move the goal posts and then replace it all afterwards, or, since it's a preseason game with no actual meaning, just play on the field as is because remarking the field will result in nothing but a huge mess when done...  it's not like the NFL can't afford to do it...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on March 27, 2019, 04:57:59 AM
I would pay $20 and I'm not really interested


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 27, 2019, 06:19:26 AM
I really don't like the NFL game too much, usually so boring, and kick game and being able to victory-formation for 2:00 of clock is sooo lame.

But I'd go if it was at IGF and it wasn't too crazily priced.  If it brings the Bombers/WFC $$ and good public exposure (more people seeing how fun IGF can be), what's the harm?  Bob seems a bit crazy with that tweet... love to know what his reasoning is.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on March 27, 2019, 09:51:21 AM
I would say this is fake news. Valour FC have a game at home Thursday August 22nd. I doubt the NFL would be okay with not having access to the stadium the day before the game.  The Bombers would not move the soccer game either as they would lose all credibility with the soccer club season ticket base. Not something you want to do with a first year club moving a regular season game for a game not even involving a team from Winnipeg. It would show the soccer fans they could care less about the club and only want to make money.

I'd say they would look at rescheduling the Valour game to ensure the field is ready for the NFL game. What's the season ticket count by the way? Can they play the game at the Waverly soccer complex?

From what I read, it would be possible to repaint the field after a soccer game on Thursday and have it ready for the NFL game on Friday. Problem is if it rains and the field is wet then they can't do a proper job.

Coincidencely enough the Pakers were involved with the Hall of Fame game a few years ago that was cancelled due to the condition of the paint on the field. They will make darn sure that won't happen again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: buckzumhoff on March 27, 2019, 10:33:09 AM
I'd get a ticket . Team would make some money. . They should have alot more events at the stadium. And two good teams to watch. Won't get these chances too often.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Fred C Dobbs on March 27, 2019, 10:38:09 AM
Bombers are playing at Edm on Aug 23. No matter what happens at IGF it's the Bomber game that I'll be watching.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Waffler on March 27, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
Huh!?
Lining a field takes a few hours
How long does it take to add goal posts? and remove like they were never there?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: booch on March 27, 2019, 12:17:08 PM
thats the easiest and quickest part of the whole field switch actually


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TBURGESS on March 27, 2019, 12:19:59 PM
I wouldn't bother going to an NFL preseason game. It doesn't interest me very much. I wonder how many folks in Winnipeg would be interested enough to pay to see it? Big risk of not even half filling the stands IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Waffler on March 27, 2019, 12:28:42 PM
thats the easiest and quickest part of the whole field switch actually
How is it when there is not hole in the turf or the asphalt under it? I'm asking out of ignorance. I've never seen goal posts installed.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Buck on March 27, 2019, 12:29:15 PM
As much as we all say it may be a half-full stadium, the NFL has an insane following even in Winnipeg.  With fantasy football being so big, their following has grown even larger.  It would be a once in a lifetime chance for most to see an NFL game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on March 27, 2019, 12:45:20 PM
As much as we all say it may be a half-full stadium, the NFL has an insane following even in Winnipeg.  With fantasy football being so big, their following has grown even larger.  It would be a once in a lifetime chance for most to see an NFL game.

I agree. I think it will sell well and it will be full with non-CFL fans. I hate that there are many among us who love only NFL and have no respect for the CFL, but hey, if it gets their butts in the seats at IGF, then that's great. Make money for the club and show them that we have a nice stadium capable of putting on a big show. Maybe they will come back for a Bomber game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bluengold204 on March 27, 2019, 12:54:33 PM
I'd go just for a chance to boo that turncoat Brown... if he even shows up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: booch on March 27, 2019, 01:35:26 PM
How is it when there is not hole in the turf or the asphalt under it? I'm asking out of ignorance. I've never seen goal posts installed.

Pretty easy to cut a hole and there is the same underlay and base where the nfl post would go (5 yards from the goal line) and the mounting/base that the pole sits in under the turf is an easy install...and easily covered after not needed, as is done in many multipurpose stadiums in North America....also they would only re-locate one anyway most likely and start the goal line 10 yards out from whichever end zone they decide to use as the post not to be moved


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sec223 on March 27, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
For the cost of a ticket the stars better be on the field for a few snaps. Game 1 of exhibition is usually played by nobodies.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Waffler on March 27, 2019, 01:57:07 PM
For the cost of a ticket the stars better be on the field for a few snaps. Game 1 of exhibition is usually played by nobodies.

It's going to be week 3 of exhibition season so I would expect to see some starters play part of it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 27, 2019, 02:18:41 PM
Not sure where they would put the price, maybe a high premium on the platinum seats, and cheapies in the endzones, upper decks...  NFL wouldn't want to see empty seats.

I'm thinking this might be an opportunity to get those "IGF is in the wrong place, I'll never go there" people to experience the stadium.  Or get hardcore NFL fans to see what getting off your couch and getting to a game is like.  I don't think it gets too many CFL fans excited, but it can tap into another demo and just maybe get a little crossover...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 27, 2019, 02:33:55 PM
For the cost of a ticket the stars better be on the field for a few snaps. Game 1 of exhibition is usually played by nobodies.

I'd imagine the majority of the starters wouldn't even travel with the team; it'll be mostly depth/PR players in action. This is a terrible idea and the only way I see it being feasible is if the WFC and/or league make a substantial sum of money for hosting the game.

I sure wouldn't waste my time or money on attending a crappy NFL pre-season game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: DM83 on March 27, 2019, 03:17:26 PM
Wow!

What a bunch of hypocrites.

Football is football.m

Plus If they bring the NFL experience,mthe stuff before the game, that could be a show in itself.
The Bombers do a lot of things right.  But a lot of things wrong also. 

This would be so much fun


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on March 27, 2019, 04:30:24 PM
I'd imagine the majority of the starters wouldn't even travel with the team; it'll be mostly depth/PR players in action. This is a terrible idea and the only way I see it being feasible is if the WFC and/or league make a substantial sum of money for hosting the game.

I sure wouldn't waste my time or money on attending a crappy NFL pre-season game.


I didn?t research this myself but since this news broke I have read that apparently week 3 is when many starters have traditionally played. Weeks 1 & 2 are for the depth, and week 4 is a rest for the starters as they approach the start of season. Not sure the degree of truth to this.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Blue In BC on March 27, 2019, 04:35:06 PM
I'd imagine the majority of the starters wouldn't even travel with the team; it'll be mostly depth/PR players in action. This is a terrible idea and the only way I see it being feasible is if the WFC and/or league make a substantial sum of money for hosting the game.

I sure wouldn't waste my time or money on attending a crappy NFL pre-season game.


IIRC the Argos and the Lions previously had to pay quite a bit to hold an NFL pre season game. Whether they made any money or not I don't know.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 27, 2019, 04:51:09 PM
How many Pack fans from Minnesota would drive here?  Or NFL fans from SSK or N. Ont? 

It could be big, or a dead fart, depending on promotion and pricing...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Jesse on March 27, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
I would consider going just because it's something new and different, but I wouldn't drop a whole lot of coin on a ticket.

Usually preseason tickets are the same price as regular season tix for some reason though so I think I they're going to price themselves out of my attendance.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 27, 2019, 06:24:26 PM
I didn?t research this myself but since this news broke I have read that apparently week 3 is when many starters have traditionally played. Weeks 1 & 2 are for the depth, and week 4 is a rest for the starters as they approach the start of season. Not sure the degree of truth to this.

Admittedly, I pay next to zero attention to the NFL pre-season. I can't comment on if/when starters actually see game-time prior to week 1 but I'd have to think it's similar to what happens in the CFL pre-season: a quarter or so and then that's it. I don't know.

IIRC the Argos and the Lions previously had to pay quite a bit to hold an NFL pre season game. Whether they made any money or not I don't know.

How long ago was that? The Bills Toronto Series was a while ago and I remember it wound up being a failure after all was said and done.

Also, I'd be inclined to think the NFL would want its own people running the show for such an event, what with IGF being a non-NFL stadium. That makes me wonder if hosting a pre-season game would even be profitable for the WFC.

I really couldn't care less either way, but I think the only way this comes to fruition is if the organization knows they can make a substantial money by hosting this event.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue girl on March 27, 2019, 06:59:14 PM
I'm not interested. I don't like The Packers, The Raiders are terrible and I don't want to pay full price for an NFL pre-season game. And most importantly The Bombers are playing that night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on March 27, 2019, 07:04:48 PM
Admittedly, I pay next to zero attention to the NFL pre-season. I can't comment on if/when starters actually see game-time prior to week 1 but I'd have to think it's similar to what happens in the CFL pre-season: a quarter or so and then that's it. I don't know.


Yeah, but the starters playing is the crux to this being very successful or a complete dud IMO. For the many hardcore NFL fans, just getting to see A-Rod and Brown live will make it worth the price of admission. Even a quarter or half might do the trick.

But yeah, if it's nobodies, then I don't see how this could be even slightly interesting. Pre-season games are horrible. I pretend to be pumped to see players that we only here reports on in TC when CFL preseason starts, but I'm lying to myself- those games are horrible lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue girl on March 27, 2019, 07:20:27 PM
I don't watch much NFL pre-season because it conflicts with the CFL regular season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: drahgon on March 27, 2019, 08:40:05 PM
Rarely watch any NFL, particularly pre-season. Since this proposed game conflicts directly with a Bombers game there is 0% chance I would attend. However, fully support the idea if the Bombers think they can make some money by hosting.

Agree that it may get some folks to visit IGF that wouldn't normally consider it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 27, 2019, 11:39:30 PM
If they are going to charge Heritage Classic or Grey Cup prices, it will flop horribly.  If they are closer to regular season Bomber games, they will do OK.  Its not like they are needing gate to fund their teams...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on March 28, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
If they are going to charge Heritage Classic or Grey Cup prices, it will flop horribly.  If they are closer to regular season Bomber games, they will do OK.  Its not like they are needing gate to fund their teams...

This seems reasonable.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 28, 2019, 04:11:54 AM
I agree. I think it will sell well and it will be full with non-CFL fans. I hate that there are many among us who love only NFL and have no respect for the CFL, but hey, if it gets their butts in the seats at IGF, then that's great. Make money for the club and show them that we have a nice stadium capable of putting on a big show. Maybe they will come back for a Bomber game.

You bet.  If you break even or make a few bucks, and gain 1 new Bomber fan, you win.  I bet we make more than a few bucks, and get much more than 1 new Bomber fan.  Sounds good to me.

I'm not interested. I don't like The Packers, The Raiders are terrible and I don't want to pay full price for an NFL pre-season game. And most importantly The Bombers are playing that night.

OK, that part sucks.  Maybe the NFL game is in the afternoon and we can all make it home in time for CFL kickoff?  I'm not sure I could go if the times overlapped because you just know they'd show some of the Bomber game/score on the big screen.  I hate knowing the scores (even early ones) before I can watch a game...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GCn19 on March 28, 2019, 11:07:30 AM
If a town as epically starved for entertainment as Regina is doesn't think they could attract interest for this game, I don't know if we should be bothering either.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 28, 2019, 01:52:40 PM
If a town as epically starved for entertainment as Regina is doesn't think they could attract interest for this game, I don't know if we should be bothering either.

Was that a reason, though? Based on what I've read, it sounds like logistics were why this got the kibosh in Regina.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on March 28, 2019, 02:31:55 PM
If a town as epically starved for entertainment as Regina is doesn't think they could attract interest for this game, I don't know if we should be bothering either.
Don't think that's an issue. One of the reasons mentioned why the Riders don't want the game is that fans will spend money to go this game which would mean less money is spent on the Riders.

Unless some agreement is put in place the Riders wouldn't make money on the NFL game whereas the Bombers would.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ridermania on March 28, 2019, 02:46:43 PM
Riders do not own the stadium, they are just the main tenant.

Green Bay Packers site says that the August exhibition game against the Raiders will be held in either Manitoba or Saskatchewan.



Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Colton on March 28, 2019, 02:47:37 PM
I'm not interested. I don't like The Packers, The Raiders are terrible and I don't want to pay full price for an NFL pre-season game. And most importantly The Bombers are playing that night.

I don't believe the NFL game is scheduled for the 23rd (at least not yet). If the game was played in Winnipeg it would probably be the 22nd, 24th, or 25th


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: John T. on March 28, 2019, 02:53:15 PM
I've been to an NFL preseason game, in San Francisco, Vikings vs. 49ers, about five years ago.

It was, by a very wide margin, the most boring event I've ever paid money to see, and the tickets weren't cheap.

It's a great idea if it makes money, and it probably will - remember, prior to Jets v2.0, Winnipeg regularly sold out preseason NHL games between utter non-entities like the Canucks, Oilers, and Coyotes.

So go if you want, but don't think, or pretend...even for an instant...that you're going to watch an entertaining event.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on March 28, 2019, 03:01:24 PM
I've been to an NFL preseason game, in San Francisco, Vikings vs. 49ers, about five years ago.

It was, by a very wide margin, the most boring event I've ever paid money to see, and the tickets weren't cheap.

It's a great idea if it makes money, and it probably will - remember, prior to Jets v2.0, Winnipeg regularly sold out preseason NHL games between utter non-entities like the Canucks, Oilers, and Coyotes.

So go if you want, but don't think, or pretend...even for an instant...that you're going to watch an entertaining event.
Winnipeg also sold out Bell MTS Place for a pre-season NBA game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Colton on March 28, 2019, 03:04:49 PM
I've been to an NFL preseason game, in San Francisco, Vikings vs. 49ers, about five years ago.

It was, by a very wide margin, the most boring event I've ever paid money to see, and the tickets weren't cheap.

It's a great idea if it makes money, and it probably will - remember, prior to Jets v2.0, Winnipeg regularly sold out preseason NHL games between utter non-entities like the Canucks, Oilers, and Coyotes.

So go if you want, but don't think, or pretend...even for an instant...that you're going to watch an entertaining event.

Personally I'm with you. I just can't watch sports where the outcome doesn't matter. I've never been able to watch preseason NFL, NHL, or CFL games without losing interest within the first half of the game.

I do think there might be a decent sized chunk of NFL fans in the city that would go just to say they've been to an NFL game (meaningless game or not). It would probably need to be pretty affordable to capture that crowd though as I feel the higher you price it, you start targeting only fans that could easily travel to the States to watch a regular season game if they wanted to.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 28, 2019, 04:10:58 PM
I don't think there is much downside, and lots of upside.  We all want to see the best players, and we all know that NFL PR players are generally better than CFL starters.  Generally. 

It is a different game, on a different field, but it is still football. 

And it might be fun to see the tiny little NFL field mapped out against a real football field...  and give NFL players a taste of what it would mean to play up here. 

Here is another potential benefit, exposing the NFL players to our stadium / fans.  And our city. 

Can you imagine, our scouts watching the game, and when the Packers or Raiders make their cuts, we sign one of the guys who actually played here? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: upp on March 28, 2019, 04:41:00 PM
Don't think that's an issue. One of the reasons mentioned why the Riders don't want the game is that fans will spend money to go this game which would mean less money is spent on the Riders.

Unless some agreement is put in place the Riders wouldn't make money on the NFL game whereas the Bombers would.

The only reason is the tight turnaround between the NFL game and the regular CFL home game a day later.  Logistically, it wasn't going to work.  The Riders don't own Mosaic Stadium and do not have the authority to decide whether or not a game would be held there.  Since every ticket is charged a $12 stadium fee, the city would have been eager to host the game if it was feasible since 30,000 tickets would mean $360,000 towards the stadium debt. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GCn19 on March 28, 2019, 04:44:17 PM
I don't think there is much downside, and lots of upside.  We all want to see the best players, and we all know that NFL PR players are generally better than CFL starters.  Generally. 

It is a different game, on a different field, but it is still football. 

And it might be fun to see the tiny little NFL field mapped out against a real football field...  and give NFL players a taste of what it would mean to play up here. 

Here is another potential benefit, exposing the NFL players to our stadium / fans.  And our city. 

Can you imagine, our scouts watching the game, and when the Packers or Raiders make their cuts, we sign one of the guys who actually played here? 

There is lots of potential downside. The Bombers will have to guarantee the Raiders a certain dollar amount to get this game. They then have to be able to make that money back and hopefully profit as well. If fans don't embrace it, it could be a disaster.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: sting on March 28, 2019, 08:08:20 PM
I don't believe the NFL game is scheduled for the 23rd (at least not yet). If the game was played in Winnipeg it would probably be the 22nd, 24th, or 25th
As mentioned earlier, it can't be the 22nd as the field is already booked for a soccer game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 28, 2019, 08:41:44 PM
There is lots of potential downside. The Bombers will have to guarantee the Raiders a certain dollar amount to get this game. They then have to be able to make that money back and hopefully profit as well. If fans don't embrace it, it could be a disaster.

Of course it has to be financially viable.  How much they want for this game is key.  $US is very high right now as well...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on March 28, 2019, 09:14:07 PM
Yikes the winter was tough on posters in these parts.....


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: NewBlue on March 28, 2019, 10:41:32 PM
I don't think there is much downside, and lots of upside.  We all want to see the best players, and we all know that NFL PR players are generally better than CFL starters.  Generally. 

It is a different game, on a different field, but it is still football. 

And it might be fun to see the tiny little NFL field mapped out against a real football field...  and give NFL players a taste of what it would mean to play up here. 

Here is another potential benefit, exposing the NFL players to our stadium / fans.  And our city. 

Can you imagine, our scouts watching the game, and when the Packers or Raiders make their cuts, we sign one of the guys who actually played here? 

That's actually a good point...but do we expect 25,000 fans pumping the DCB's during an exhibition game?  They won't get to see our passionate fans.
But how many times do we hear a new signing say they knew nothing about WPG?  In this case at least it is great advertisemnet for our city (not to mention the millions of fans watching on TV).


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: DM83 on March 29, 2019, 02:43:41 AM
I laugh when someone says something about showcasing our city, and the jist is that people will see it's landmarks and magically invade our city by the millions.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to come to Winnipeg, because of it's amazing stadium, gardens, trees, the Holocaust museum or the Provencher bridge.
Many more cities have the same or similar buildings etc., plus more, plus historical, or world class attractions.

I am afraid we have none of that.
We are a very nice small city, with cheap taxes, few people and easy to get around in.
I don't think prospective football playing 20 year old unemployed Americans would want to stay here.  What wouild thery do?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 29, 2019, 05:25:13 AM
I laugh when someone says something about showcasing our city, and the jist is that people will see it's landmarks and magically invade our city by the millions.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to come to Winnipeg, because of it's amazing stadium, gardens, trees, the Holocaust museum or the Provencher bridge.
Many more cities have the same or similar buildings etc., plus more, plus historical, or world class attractions.

Hey, WPG isn't all that bad.  Sure, it's no MTL and no Vancouver, but it has its charms.  Especially if you actually like winter and summer (I do, vs Vanc's one season: rain).  Plus, those who give it a chance often come to like it as home.  Heck, we didn't even have any mosquitoes for the last 2 years!  (knock wood)

I don't think the objective would be to wow them over better places: no, just to make it so they've heard of the place and don't equate it to Fargo or something, like most most Americans might.

We are a very nice small city, with cheap taxes, few people and easy to get around in.

There, fixed it for you.  Unless you live in the North End, taxes here are nasty.  Mine are up 70% (between school tax and frontage rip-off factor) in 10 years.  My BC buddy with his $1.3M small home always laughs at me how his property tax is only $1k.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TBURGESS on March 29, 2019, 12:53:06 PM
I'll second that taxes aren't cheap. I was shocked that my house in Surrey's taxes were less than my much smaller house in River Heights were. Vancouver's taxes are way less than Calgary's too.

Winnipeg's a nice enough city, especially if you were born there like I was. It doesn't 'show well' to outsiders though. The forks, the park, the zoo, then out to the lake. Takes a weekend or so to do the whole thing. Gotta say, I'd never move back after living other places. Nothing in Winnipeg that you can't get in most other Canadian cities.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: dd on March 29, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
Ya, but can at least laugh back at him as at least you ll own your home in your lifetime!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Blue In BC on March 29, 2019, 01:20:28 PM
Hey, WPG isn't all that bad.  Sure, it's no MTL and no Vancouver, but it has its charms.  Especially if you actually like winter and summer (I do, vs Vanc's one season: rain).  Plus, those who give it a chance often come to like it as home.  Heck, we didn't even have any mosquitoes for the last 2 years!  (knock wood)

I don't think the objective would be to wow them over better places: no, just to make it so they've heard of the place and don't equate it to Fargo or something, like most most Americans might.

There, fixed it for you.  Unless you live in the North End, taxes here are nasty.  Mine are up 70% (between school tax and frontage rip-off factor) in 10 years.  My BC buddy with his $1.3M small home always laughs at me how his property tax is only $1k.


Vancouver has has more than one season:

1. It's raining.
2. It just finished raining
3. It's just about to rain.
4. It snowed for 10 minutes.

:)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 29, 2019, 02:39:42 PM
There, fixed it for you.  Unless you live in the North End, taxes here are nasty.  Mine are up 70% (between school tax and frontage rip-off factor) in 10 years.  My BC buddy with his $1.3M small home always laughs at me how his property tax is only $1k.


And how much would his $1.3mil home cost in WPG?  $200k? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on March 29, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
And how much would his $1.3mil home cost in WPG?  $200k? 

Descrepencies aren't that bad. I have recently done this research due to a potential job move.

Wpg. has many homes under 400k some in nice areas, where as in Vancouver, Victoria a house under 400k doesn't really exist. In Wpg, we have 500k to 1mil houses in volume and in that range you can get a nice place in pretty well any area you choose. In Vancouver and Victoria 500k to 1mil will get you a place but not everywhere or as nice as what you can find here for that. Wpg. has many homes over 1mil. and most would be considered very nice houses, (yes location and land play a factor) in Van. and Vic. location plays a huge factor if you want close to downtown as an example you will be over 1 mil and could you pay 10-20 mil. Anyway as an example in a 1.2 mil house here in the burbs of Wpg with property taxes of over 10,000yr. a person could get almost as nice a place as long as they don't want to be in downtown Van. or Vic. for the same amount and end up saving as the taxes are less than half. The big problem in that market is the purchaser who only has a budget of 400k as an example those places just don't exist.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: kkc60 on March 29, 2019, 03:21:27 PM
Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB

Any CFL team that offers to host an NFL pre season game should have their franchise revoked.  And I might not just be kidding.



I wonder how Bob feels about the idea....
Disappointing. An NFL team in a CFL stadium for a game means nothing. Just like a concert. They aren't kicking out the CFL team, it's just an exhibition game.

Bob needs to learn to share


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on March 29, 2019, 04:13:40 PM
Descrepencies aren't that bad. I have recently done this research due to a potential job move.

Wpg. has many homes under 400k some in nice areas, where as in Vancouver, Victoria a house under 400k doesn't really exist. In Wpg, we have 500k to 1mil houses in volume and in that range you can get a nice place in pretty well any area you choose. In Vancouver and Victoria 500k to 1mil will get you a place but not everywhere or as nice as what you can find here for that. Wpg. has many homes over 1mil. and most would be considered very nice houses, (yes location and land play a factor) in Van. and Vic. location plays a huge factor if you want close to downtown as an example you will be over 1 mil and could you pay 10-20 mil. Anyway as an example in a 1.2 mil house here in the burbs of Wpg with property taxes of over 10,000yr. a person could get almost as nice a place as long as they don't want to be in downtown Van. or Vic. for the same amount and end up saving as the taxes are less than half. The big problem in that market is the purchaser who only has a budget of 400k as an example those places just don't exist.

I can pay $300 extra a month in taxes if my mortgage is $1200 less a month...  and I don't pay highway tolls, or excessive parking fees, and even everyday items are cheaper because retailers don't pay as much rent, etc...   Gas is $1.48/ltr, $1.52.9 at the co-op..

If you can find a job that makes up for the additional living expenses, great.  But saving a little on property tax isn't going to make a difference.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on March 29, 2019, 04:37:18 PM
I can pay $300 extra a month in taxes if my mortgage is $1200 less a month...  and I don't pay highway tolls, or excessive parking fees, and even everyday items are cheaper because retailers don't pay as much rent, etc...   Gas is $1.48/ltr, $1.52.9 at the co-op..

If you can find a job that makes up for the additional living expenses, great.  But saving a little on property tax isn't going to make a difference.

Pros and cons to everything...just like our roster 8)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TBURGESS on March 29, 2019, 10:06:02 PM
Anyone who thinks it's as cheap to live in Vancouver than it is to live in Winnipeg is fooling themselves.

The cheapest places to live aren't the same a best places to live and the most expensive places to live aren't always the best places to live.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ridermania on March 29, 2019, 10:49:20 PM
We were informed today by the promoter in writing and verbally that he chose not to pursue this event in the Regina market.

As such, there will not be an NFL event at Mosaic Stadium at this time.?

The promoter?s statement also ended all speculation about the game.

That could open the door for Winnipeg, which reportedly has interest in staging the game.

The CFL?s Blue Bombers are on the road that weekend, leaving Investors Group Field vacant.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: In Motion on April 05, 2019, 08:50:45 PM
I wouldnt go. I don't watch the NFL. My nephews (in their 20s) would possibly go.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on May 24, 2019, 10:52:22 PM
Jeff Hamilton is reporting this is a near done deal!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sec223 on May 25, 2019, 01:45:51 AM
I don't go to Bomber exhibitions. Sure not going to one featuring 2 teams I don't follow NFL or not.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: trapper on May 25, 2019, 02:55:07 AM
Good on Winnipeg.  Wish it were in Regina.... $#@%@#$%


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 25, 2019, 11:09:32 AM
Winnipeg only city to get the deal. Good. Two good teams coming to play, Get to see . Josh Jacobs.. Antonio Brown. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: DM83 on May 26, 2019, 04:27:28 PM
Wade thinking outside the box!
Great job!
Now get Springsteen here or the Stones as part of their reshedulling.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Tiger on May 29, 2019, 03:13:43 AM
Any word when tickets are on sale?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on May 29, 2019, 09:51:53 AM
Any word when tickets are on sale?

Has the game even been officially announced yet?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on May 29, 2019, 10:16:55 AM
Has the game even been officially announced yet?
Nope. My guess is they will make the announcement tomorrow.

The Raiders' website still shows the game's date, time and location as To Be Determined.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 29, 2019, 11:58:29 PM
I'll go for $20 or less.  Not worth anymore than Bomber ball.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: DM83 on May 30, 2019, 02:36:26 AM
$20.00???
Hey big spender?

It's the NFL, you know a real game day experience.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 30, 2019, 02:40:52 AM
$20.00???
Hey big spender?

It's the NFL, you know a real game day experience.

I prefer the CFL.  Game day experience is great in CFL, it's real I can tell you that.  It's Canadian I can guarantee that.  Bigger doesn't mean better.  Yes I to repeat I'll spend $20 max on a NFL preseason game.  It's ok that I have a budget.  I am a very casual NFL fan.  Don't love the game. 



Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ridermania on May 30, 2019, 12:14:40 PM
Tickets will not be cheap at all.

It will be the 3rd preseason game for both teams, so more starters will be playing.



Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on May 30, 2019, 12:29:39 PM
I think I will probably go. Not willing to pay $200 or anything, but more than $20. lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
I think I will probably go. Not willing to pay $200 or anything, but more than $20. lol.

Kind of where I'm at.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 30, 2019, 02:50:00 PM
$20.00???
Hey big spender?

It's the NFL, you know a real game day experience.

Yeah, there's definitely no gameday experience at CFL games or anything...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 30, 2019, 02:56:45 PM
I'll be going. Not a huge fan of Aaron Rodgers but I want to see him play in person. I saw Showtime play last year in KC and at the Pro Bowl. There's just something about the NFL I love. I'm sure tickets will be in the $100ish range for average tickets. Fair price as far as I'm concerned. You're going to have the pay for the uniqueness of seeing the NFL play in Winnipeg. That's something cool I never thought would happen. Hopeful season ticket holders get first dibs on tickets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bomber4life85 on May 30, 2019, 03:35:34 PM
Im absolutely stoked to see this in Winnipeg. I went to Green Bay to see them play once and it was unreal. The NFL experience is like no other.. at least in that market anyways. This time we;ll be able to tailgate with our packers stuff on. This game is goin to sell out so fast. Id assume they would get the temp seats in both ends too. There is no way they are not selling this out fast.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on May 30, 2019, 03:48:27 PM
Im absolutely stoked to see this in Winnipeg. I went to Green Bay to see them play once and it was unreal. The NFL experience is like no other.. at least in that market anyways. This time we;ll be able to tailgate with our packers stuff on. This game is goin to sell out so fast. Id assume they would get the temp seats in both ends too. There is no way they are not selling this out fast.

Hmm, I'm not so sure about tickets quickly selling out or needing temp stands. If this was a regular season game, you're probably right, but it's hard to tell just how much people (even the hardcores) are going to get it up for a preseason game. I hope you are right though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bomb squad on May 30, 2019, 09:25:56 PM
Hmm, I'm not so sure about tickets quickly selling out or needing temp stands. If this was a regular season game, you're probably right, but it's hard to tell just how much people (even the hardcores) are going to get it up for a preseason game. I hope you are right though.

Sellout is likely. How fast is the question. Could be awhile.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on May 30, 2019, 09:46:11 PM
Depending on the price I'll likely go. Row 1 behind the visitor bench could be some good tv time!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on May 30, 2019, 09:52:59 PM
If they are using teh Bomber ticket prices, and offering them to STH's at regular price, I can see a sellout.  But more likely, they will be between that and Heritage Classic pricing... and at that price, with a short lead in, we might see some empty seats...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on May 30, 2019, 10:40:43 PM
If they are using teh Bomber ticket prices, and offering them to STH's at regular price, I can see a sellout.  But more likely, they will be between that and Heritage Classic pricing... and at that price, with a short lead in, we might see some empty seats...

There is no way the prices will match the Bomber ticket prices.  They will be much higher.  My guess is they will want at least a $3 million US gate so over $4 million Canadian.  That likely means $130 CDN ticket price on average.  $200 and over between the goallines in the lower bowl and first few rows of the upper deck.  Endzone seats are likely to be $100.  Loge seats and club seats for $300 a piece is my guess.  Suites for $4000 - $5000.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 31, 2019, 04:36:47 PM
There is no way the prices will match the Bomber ticket prices.  They will be much higher.  My guess is they will want at least a $3 million US gate so over $4 million Canadian.  That likely means $130 CDN ticket price on average.  $200 and over between the goallines in the lower bowl and first few rows of the upper deck.  Endzone seats are likely to be $100.  Loge seats and club seats for $300 a piece is my guess.  Suites for $4000 - $5000.

It'll be interesting to see if the NFL sycophants suck this up or gag on the pricing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Jesse on May 31, 2019, 04:41:41 PM
There is no way the prices will match the Bomber ticket prices.  They will be much higher.  My guess is they will want at least a $3 million US gate so over $4 million Canadian.  That likely means $130 CDN ticket price on average.  $200 and over between the goallines in the lower bowl and first few rows of the upper deck.  Endzone seats are likely to be $100.  Loge seats and club seats for $300 a piece is my guess.  Suites for $4000 - $5000.

I kind of expect that as well - but that would turn me right off.

Not worth it for a pre-season game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on May 31, 2019, 08:29:05 PM
If they start off with pricing that is twice what Bomber tickets are, they are going to be hard pressed to sell out.  This is not going to be a huge revenue generator for the NFL, far better optics to lowball the ticket price and have a full stadium...

If they either start high and panic sell / paper the leftover tickets, they will generate the same revenue, have a lot of PO'd people who paid the full price, and it will be an all around negative. 

If they stick with Bomber prices, they should sell out decently quick, and have a full stadium to show off.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: CoryB on June 04, 2019, 01:58:36 PM
There is no way the prices will match the Bomber ticket prices.  They will be much higher.  My guess is they will want at least a $3 million US gate so over $4 million Canadian.  That likely means $130 CDN ticket price on average.  $200 and over between the goallines in the lower bowl and first few rows of the upper deck.  Endzone seats are likely to be $100.  Loge seats and club seats for $300 a piece is my guess.  Suites for $4000 - $5000.

So you are saying the Bombers should basically charge Grey Cup prices for an NFL pre-season game?

I can't see that happening. My guess on the pricing is it falls somewhere between the single game price for Banjo Bowl and double the otherwise regular price. Apply that formula across the whole seating price range.

I also think there will be a big pre-sale to Bomber season ticket holders, youth football teams, and other football supports (Bisons, Rifles, etc)

Basically get the message directly to the most likely audience early and give them a chance to get seats before the CFL couch crew get a shot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 04, 2019, 02:17:07 PM
Why would the Bombers dictate pricing at all? All of those decisions would come from the NFL. The Bombers don't set the pricing for concerts, NHL outdoor games, etc. They wouldn't have a say just because it's football. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on June 04, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
Why would the Bombers dictate pricing at all? All of those decisions would come from the NFL. The Bombers don't set the pricing for concerts, NHL outdoor games, etc. They wouldn't have a say just because it's football. 

You're probably right. This can probably just be viewed as the NFL paying a venue rental fee and then handling almost all the rest.

Although I think the Bombers will have some minor say in things, such as perhaps giving priority to STHs and the like.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2019, 02:53:15 PM
Why would the Bombers dictate pricing at all? All of those decisions would come from the NFL. The Bombers don't set the pricing for concerts, NHL outdoor games, etc. They wouldn't have a say just because it's football. 

I am sure any NFL people would ask for the local people's counsel on what pricing should be... they have no idea what the market is, while we should know it inside out... and having had events like the world cup soccer and heritage classic and even the Grey Cup, it should give us some insight as to what needs to be done to make a successful event while maximizing gate...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 04, 2019, 03:14:23 PM
I am sure any NFL people would ask for the local people's counsel on what pricing should be... they have no idea what the market is, while we should know it inside out... and having had events like the world cup soccer and heritage classic and even the Grey Cup, it should give us some insight as to what needs to be done to make a successful event while maximizing gate...

The NFL (and the teams) have a revenue number they need to hit to make it viable. They would then do some kind of market analysis to ensure they can hit that target. I would hazard a guess they don't particularly care that the Bombers sell endzone tickets for $20 or whatever. The NFL is not the CFL. They would likely be somewhat interested in NHL ticket costs and the pre-season ticket costs in Minnesota or other comparable US markets. There probably wouldn't be many directly comparable examples, and to my knowledge, the NFL doesn't have a lot of experience hosting pre-season games in Canada. Why would you assume the Bombers would have any better insight into pricing an NFL pre-season game in Winnipeg than they do? I would guess they do not.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2019, 03:54:31 PM
The NFL (and the teams) have a revenue number they need to hit to make it viable. They would then do some kind of market analysis to ensure they can hit that target. I would hazard a guess they don't particularly care that the Bombers sell endzone tickets for $20 or whatever. The NFL is not the CFL. They would likely be somewhat interested in NHL ticket costs and the pre-season ticket costs in Minnesota or other comparable US markets. There probably wouldn't be many directly comparable examples, and to my knowledge, the NFL doesn't have a lot of experience hosting pre-season games in Canada. Why would you assume the Bombers would have any better insight into pricing an NFL pre-season game in Winnipeg than they do? I would guess they do not.

I would HOPE that WFC knows its client base and geographical peculiarities of disposable income expenditures better than the NFL, who are marketing geniuses and have billion dollar resources, but have never really looked at Canada, let alone a market like Winnipeg or a venue like IGF.  If the NFL did not take 100% advantage of our intel on the opportunity, they'd be pretty stupid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GCn19 on June 04, 2019, 04:00:51 PM
The NFL (and the teams) have a revenue number they need to hit to make it viable. They would then do some kind of market analysis to ensure they can hit that target. I would hazard a guess they don't particularly care that the Bombers sell endzone tickets for $20 or whatever. The NFL is not the CFL. They would likely be somewhat interested in NHL ticket costs and the pre-season ticket costs in Minnesota or other comparable US markets. There probably wouldn't be many directly comparable examples, and to my knowledge, the NFL doesn't have a lot of experience hosting pre-season games in Canada. Why would you assume the Bombers would have any better insight into pricing an NFL pre-season game in Winnipeg than they do? I would guess they do not.

The Bombers will be paying to host this game. It will be up to them to recover the money spent and hopefully profit from it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 04, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
The Bombers will be paying to host this game. It will be up to them to recover the money spent and hopefully profit from it.

Really? That's not typically how concerts, traveling shows, one-off events work. Where did you hear that?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
The Bombers will be paying to host this game. It will be up to them to recover the money spent and hopefully profit from it.

Like the GC?  Well, lets hope they didn't pay too much.  Would also make sense why SSK did not get the deal...

If that is the case, then WFC will be dictating 100% of the pricing structure. 

Have to wonder what is in the contract, whether there is a penalty clause for not reaching sell out, or a certain %... the NFL would hate to have an event that has too many open seats. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GCn19 on June 04, 2019, 04:27:29 PM
Really? That's not typically how concerts, traveling shows, one-off events work. Where did you hear that?

That's what was reported in Regina previous to them pulling out. The Raiders would sell the rights to the game to the Riders for X amount of dollars pending NFL approval. The Riders apparently pulled out thinking their was too much risk. No report on how much that $ was? I can only assume that the Bombers are working under the same type of deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GCn19 on June 04, 2019, 04:28:40 PM
Like the GC?  Well, lets hope they didn't pay too much.  Would also make sense why SSK did not get the deal...

If that is the case, then WFC will be dictating 100% of the pricing structure. 

Have to wonder what is in the contract, whether there is a penalty clause for not reaching sell out, or a certain %... the NFL would hate to have an event that has too many open seats. 

The NFL would have to have signed off on this, and their market research must have shown the game is viable in Winnipeg.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GCn19 on June 04, 2019, 04:31:07 PM
Like the GC?  Well, lets hope they didn't pay too much.  Would also make sense why SSK did not get the deal...

If that is the case, then WFC will be dictating 100% of the pricing structure. 

Have to wonder what is in the contract, whether there is a penalty clause for not reaching sell out, or a certain %... the NFL would hate to have an event that has too many open seats. 

SSK did not get the deal because they themselves pulled out. They were uncomfortable with the risk.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 04, 2019, 04:37:02 PM
Jeff hamilton says announcement tomorrow...

https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1135962919840243712 (https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1135962919840243712)

Who is "On Ice Entertainment Ltd"??


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2019, 04:45:00 PM
SSK did not get the deal because they themselves pulled out. They were uncomfortable with the risk.

Exactly... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: the paw on June 04, 2019, 04:51:49 PM
Jeff hamilton says announcement tomorrow...

https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1135962919840243712 (https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1135962919840243712)

Who is "On Ice Entertainment Ltd"??

They are the promoter.  They also tried to do the deal with Regina, so it seems clear that the NFL has sold the rights to On Ice, who is now trying to secure a venue and hang onto a margin. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Bluehawk on June 04, 2019, 05:13:34 PM
Hoping the Bombers are able to give the season ticket holders first crack at their own seats for the game.
Also hoping the prices will be reasonable.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 04, 2019, 05:33:12 PM
They are the promoter.  They also tried to do the deal with Regina, so it seems clear that the NFL has sold the rights to On Ice, who is now trying to secure a venue and hang onto a margin. 

Typically promoters put on and underwrite the show/event. It would be somewhat strange for the promoter to put all the financial risk on the host venue. That's just not normally how it's done.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ladybug on June 04, 2019, 06:05:14 PM
SSK did not get the deal because they themselves pulled out. They were uncomfortable with the risk.

Maybe this is the real reason it is not being played in Regina. Not sure about that.

The reported reason was that the Riders have a game the next day at 5 p.m..
There was not enough confidence that the turnaround time was adequate.
The promoter tried to change the NFL game to Thursday. When that did not happen they pulled out.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 04, 2019, 07:29:16 PM
Also hoping the prices will be reasonable.

According to a tweet from Jeff Hamilton, average ticket price "will likely exceed $200".


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Blue In BC on June 04, 2019, 07:41:56 PM
According to a tweet from Jeff Hamilton, average ticket price "will likely exceed $200".

That's insanity ticket pricing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 04, 2019, 07:47:43 PM
That's insanity ticket pricing.

That's not outside of what I expected.

I expect my seat may be close to $500


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2019, 07:50:43 PM
According to a tweet from Jeff Hamilton, average ticket price "will likely exceed $200".

So, they aren't worried about empty seats... $200 probably means $100+ at the bottom...

33k at average $200 is $6.6 mil...  25k at $200 average is $5mil.  33k at $150 average is about $5mil...  

That's not outside of what I expected.

I expect my seat may be close to $500

Luckily my buddy's partner wants the tickets regardless price so I won't have to make that decision,  expect the price for his tickets (soon possibly to be partially mine) will be the same as yours...  if STH are offered first dibs, are you going to use them, pass, or buy and resell?  Anyone think there might be a lucrative secondary market for these duckets?  I can't see it, GC tickets were easily had for a discount...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: KINGCHARLES on June 04, 2019, 08:22:32 PM
honestly as a equal fan to all levels of football I don't know if i could justify paying $200/ticket for my 3 season tickets for a pre-season game. Especially if guys like A-aron Rodgers, Antonio Brown, Derek Carr and Josh Jacobs probably wont even be playing.

I'm not one of these Winnipeg fans that defaults to the Vikings as my NFL team because of being the closest NFL team to Winnipeg so I have never actually gone to Minni for an NFL game. I have on the other hand due to being a Patriots fan gone to Gillette Stadium on 2 occassions. Those 2 games were regular season games that actually mattered so spending over $1000 total for the 2 games was worth it.

If season ticket holders get first dibs I will probably still buy my tickets just not sure if i will keep them or sell them. Then again the prices might just be rumours.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 04, 2019, 08:49:39 PM
From Jeff Hamilton:

It's important  to note that whatever the price tag is for tickets, it's decided by the NFL and not the Winnipeg Football Club. Also, season ticket holders, including those who sign up ahead of announcement, get first dibs


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 04, 2019, 09:06:28 PM
 

Luckily my buddy's partner wants the tickets regardless price so I won't have to make that decision,  expect the price for his tickets (soon possibly to be partially mine) will be the same as yours...  if STH are offered first dibs, are you going to use them, pass, or buy and resell?  Anyone think there might be a lucrative secondary market for these duckets?  I can't see it, GC tickets were easily had for a discount...

I have a buddy who is buying 2 of my 3 season tickets for most of this year (as we have a 1-year-old so my wife and 4 year old will not come much).

Once the ticket price gets announced I am going to see if he wants to buy 2 of them.

I will likely buy my 1 (depending on price).

Where did you find Grey Cup tickets at a discount?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2019, 09:12:37 PM
I have a buddy who is buying 2 of my 3 season tickets for most of this year (as we have a 1-year-old so my wife and 4 year old will not come much).

Once the ticket price gets announced I am going to see if he wants to buy 2 of them.

I will likely buy my 1 (depending on price).

Where did you find Grey Cup tickets at a discount?

Kijiji...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bomb squad on June 04, 2019, 09:51:45 PM
According to a tweet from Jeff Hamilton, average ticket price "will likely exceed $200".

I'll be very surprised if that doesn't come down by at least $50.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: ModAdmin on June 04, 2019, 09:54:44 PM
Jeff Hamilton
‏ @jeffkhamilton

Sources have confirmed the #Bombers will host the NFL pre-season game between Oakland and Green Bay on Thursday, Aug. 22. There is currently a Valour FC game that evening but work has been done to move it. Also, word is average ticket price will likely exceed $200. #wfp


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 04, 2019, 10:35:07 PM
Jeff Hamilton
‏ @jeffkhamilton

Sources have confirmed the #Bombers will host the NFL pre-season game between Oakland and Green Bay on Thursday, Aug. 22. There is currently a Valour FC game that evening but work has been done to move it. Also, word is average ticket price will likely exceed $200. #wfp


classic NFL, over hyped, over priced, under deliver on value for the entertainment.  Hard pass.  I'll pay $20.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: buckzumhoff on June 04, 2019, 10:46:57 PM
Thats about the going rate in the stadiums i have  checked. This is canadian dollars so not too bad. Id pay in the 150-200 range. To go to a game and travel. Would cost alot more. Do season ticket holders get first crack at the tickets.?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 05, 2019, 12:27:34 AM
Thats about the going rate in the stadiums i have  checked. This is canadian dollars so not too bad. Id pay in the 150-200 range. To go to a game and travel. Would cost alot more. Do season ticket holders get first crack at the tickets.?

Hard to say, I hope so.  Seams fair.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: sting on June 05, 2019, 01:08:20 AM
Jeff Hamilton
‏ @jeffkhamilton

Sources have confirmed the #Bombers will host the NFL pre-season game between Oakland and Green Bay on Thursday, Aug. 22. There is currently a Valour FC game that evening but work has been done to move it. Also, word is average ticket price will likely exceed $200. #wfp

Real slap in the face from the Bombers to soccer fans. This shows the club could care less about the soccer club. Moving a regular season game for a meaningless exhibition football game from another league. Money over fans. This confirms to me they could care less about the soccer team. This is the second time they have screwed me on the soccer team. Getting real tired of how we are being taken for granted.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 05, 2019, 01:27:14 AM
Real slap in the face from the Bombers to soccer fans. This shows the club could care less about the soccer club. Moving a regular season game for a meaningless exhibition football game from another league. Money over fans. This confirms to me they could care less about the soccer team. This is the second time they have screwed me on the soccer team. Getting real tired of how we are being taken for granted.

what happened 1st time?

this will help pay off the stadium that made soccer possible


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: RebusRankin on June 05, 2019, 01:50:49 AM
Real slap in the face from the Bombers to soccer fans. This shows the club could care less about the soccer club. Moving a regular season game for a meaningless exhibition football game from another league. Money over fans. This confirms to me they could care less about the soccer team. This is the second time they have screwed me on the soccer team. Getting real tired of how we are being taken for granted.

$$$$$$$


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: sting on June 05, 2019, 02:01:33 AM
what happened 1st time?

this will help pay off the stadium that made soccer possible
lol  The stadium will never be paid off. Loans will be forgiven. Soccer is being used to fill dates and with the hope of making the football club money.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: sting on June 05, 2019, 02:20:27 AM
It upsets me the Bombers could care less about the damage they could do to their players. They have scheduled Valour to now play the 17th and 19th. One day of rest for pro soccer players is simply crazy and dangerous. They would never do it to the football team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 05, 2019, 03:09:20 AM
Why would the Bombers dictate pricing at all? All of those decisions would come from the NFL. The Bombers don't set the pricing for concerts, NHL outdoor games, etc. They wouldn't have a say just because it's football. 

even if the Bombers do have the final say on ticket prices as the 'promoter', it won't be based as much on what they charge for Bomber games as much as it will be on what the NFL will be charging the Bombers to host the game...

it's common practice for these contracts to include a guaranteed payout to the association as they have their own costs and other considerations that need to be paid regardless of venue...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on June 05, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
It upsets me the Bombers could care less about the damage they could do to their players. They have scheduled Valour to now play the 17th and 19th. One day of rest for pro soccer players is simply crazy and dangerous. They would never do it to the football team.

Contact vs. non-contact.

...Really?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: kkc60 on June 05, 2019, 03:01:47 PM
It upsets me the Bombers could care less about the damage they could do to their players. They have scheduled Valour to now play the 17th and 19th. One day of rest for pro soccer players is simply crazy and dangerous. They would never do it to the football team.
Of course they wouldn't for football, that's a death wish. You're comparing apples to oranges


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 03:35:33 PM
Real slap in the face from the Bombers to soccer fans. This shows the club could care less about the soccer club. Moving a regular season game for a meaningless exhibition football game from another league. Money over fans. This confirms to me they could care less about the soccer team. This is the second time they have screwed me on the soccer team. Getting real tired of how we are being taken for granted.

nfl vs candian regional soccer. LOL obviously NFL gets priority. Is the Valour even pro? Do the players get paid?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 03:55:48 PM
When will we hear what the prices are?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: kkc60 on June 05, 2019, 03:57:10 PM
nfl vs candian regional soccer. LOL obviously NFL gets priority. Is the Valour even pro? Do the players get paid?
Yeah its pro. No need to talk down the soccer league or players. They've gone further in their sport than any of us have probably gone


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ladybug on June 05, 2019, 04:07:05 PM
When will we hear what the prices are?

Very soon it seems: Ticketmaster is stating that the Bombers/Valour Pre-sale starts today at 1:00 pm CDT.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 05, 2019, 04:33:24 PM
Raiders vs Packers will play their preseason game at IG Field on Aug 22nd at 7pm. Ticket prices range from 75-340CDN (plus taxes and fees). The game will be televised in Canada on TSN and RDS.


From Sarah O on twitter


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 04:41:53 PM
Raiders vs Packers will play their preseason game at IG Field on Aug 22nd at 7pm. Ticket prices range from 75-340CDN (plus taxes and fees). The game will be televised in Canada on TSN and RDS.


From Sarah O on twitter

Sweet...where do I go to buy?!?


Title: NFL in Winnipeg
Post by: Pigskin on June 05, 2019, 04:49:49 PM
Now that the game is a done deal in Winnipeg. Any word on ticket prices. Will season ticket holders get first crack at there seats.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 04:51:34 PM
Got the email. Season ticket holders should check their email. On-sale starts at 1 PM (9 mins from now). Lower bowl non end zone seats start at $290.

https://www.bluebombers.com/nfl


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 05, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
So, approx 2.4x bomber game prices... so, my buddies seats will be that max $375 per...  


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 05, 2019, 05:03:13 PM
Keep on topic please!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 05:06:17 PM
Booo ...Please wait screen.

Got um! Doesn't seem that busy but the usual spots were going pretty fast. People beat me to a few tickets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 05:16:56 PM
Cool.

What do you do that makes you feel empowered to talk down about players chasing their dreams and doing what they love? Besides trying to be a troll and then getting very defensive the second you get criticized?

Soccer is not a sport. I've sat got tickets thru work to whitecaps and TFC games when I've been on work trips. One game ended in a 0-0 tie. The fans were absolutekly thrilled for some reason. How can a 0-0 tie be a good outcome? Thats boring AF and pathetic. just my 2 cents


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 05, 2019, 05:18:33 PM
Am I reading this right? $280 for lower bowl end zone seats?

Wow...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
Am I reading this right? $280 for lower bowl end zone seats?

Wow...

Yep. 2/3 of the cheap seats are already gone. Plenty everywhere else though


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Buck on June 05, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
Got my tickets.  The cheapest available, right on an aisle.  Should be great, I am looking forward to it!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 05:28:00 PM
Got the email. Season ticket holders should check their email. On-sale starts at 1 PM (9 mins from now). Lower bowl non end zone seats start at $290.

https://www.bluebombers.com/nfl

I have not got an e-mail yet


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 05, 2019, 05:31:15 PM
I have not got an e-mail yet

me neither


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 05:33:39 PM
LAME!

They did not hold my own seats, anyone could grab them!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 05, 2019, 05:36:15 PM
LAME!

They did not hold my own seats, anyone could grab them!!

Well, that is just a laugh, isn't it.  How many are you able to grab?  Just the number you own, or can you buy extra as a STH?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 05:38:24 PM
Well, that is just a laugh, isn't it.  How many are you able to grab?  Just the number you own, or can you buy extra as a STH?

Honestly, I probably won't go now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Buck on June 05, 2019, 05:42:18 PM
LAME!

They did not hold my own seats, anyone could grab them!!

To be fair, that would make no sense for them to do.  Also, it would be impossible because the pre-sale was for Bomber season ticket holders, as well as Valour FC.  There would be an overlap on too many tickets for it to be fair.  


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 05, 2019, 05:43:17 PM
Honestly, I probably won't go now.

No camera love = No Donny  ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 05:43:48 PM
Well, that is just a laugh, isn't it.  How many are you able to grab?  Just the number you own, or can you buy extra as a STH?

You can grab up to eight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Buck on June 05, 2019, 05:44:08 PM
Except it is a sport. Hockey used to have ties too. Is that pathetic?

I don't care for soccer. But calling any sport, especially one that's as competitive and global as soccer pathetic is weak af and pathetic. Just my 2 cents

When I was in England last year I went to a World Cup friendly and I couldn't believe how exciting it actually was (ended in a 1-1 tie).  


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 05:44:12 PM
To be fair, that would make no sense for them to do.  Also, it would be impossible because the pre-sale was for Bomber season ticket holders, as well as Valour FC.  There would be an overlap on too many tickets for it to be fair.  

Well not even getting the pre-sale code doesn't help either.



Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 05:46:45 PM
They are certainly having technical difficulties which is upsetting this long time season ticket holder.



I can't even log into my account now. I reset my password, and it still doesn't work.



Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on June 05, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
No camera love = No Donny  ;)

lmao


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
No camera love = No Donny  ;)

Honestly, why would I pay $400 a seat to not sit in my usual seat? Or spend less to sit in a different seat. For a football game at IG Field, I have my regular seat. Anything else would feel like much less value and experience.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 05, 2019, 06:33:00 PM
Honestly, why would I pay $400 a seat to not sit in my usual seat? Or spend less to sit in a different seat. For a football game at IG Field, I have my regular seat. Anything else would feel like much less value and experience.

No, for a CFL game at IG Field you have your regular seat. What you're talking about is a Personal Seat Licence, and that would never fly around here. Besides, if you want to dress anything like a Raiders fan you'd have to kick it up a few notches.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: BigBlueCrew on June 05, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
STM is the presale code.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 06:51:23 PM
No, for a CFL game at IG Field you have your regular seat. What you're talking about is a Personal Seat Licence, and that would never fly around here. Besides, if you want to dress anything like a Raiders fan you'd have to kick it up a few notches.

Yah, I suppose this does not make the cut:


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
Based on the prices you have seen, will this game sell out?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on June 05, 2019, 06:54:56 PM
Looking great Donny.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 05, 2019, 06:57:33 PM
Based on the prices you have seen, will this game sell out?

I think it has a good chance. It will draw in a lot of locals that drool over anything that is NFL, and the low Canadian dollar could possibly attract some fans from the northern US.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 06:58:29 PM
Looking great Donny.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 05, 2019, 06:58:32 PM
Based on the prices you have seen, will this game sell out?

i would be surprised if it did...Rogers has said he is coming - how much will he play??  He is one of the best to play the game though so seeing him in person at IG Field is cool - is it worth it?

Pre-season anything including football can be really boring.  $400 a seat to see that is too steep for me.  If I am just paying for one seat maybe I can justify a $170 ticket - we shall see


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 05, 2019, 07:17:17 PM
Wow.. 8 tickets.  So, I guess there's not going to be a lot for sale on Sat...

Don't know why they couldn't let STH take thier seats first, say a 24 hour window, then open it up to VFC STH for another day, and then this open season 8 ticket for those that did not want thier own seats starting on Friday at noon, and then open season on Sat... kinda sucks for guys like Donny and my buddy who have amazing seats but won't be allowed to sit in them...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 07:27:48 PM
There are still a ton of tickets. The only section sold out is the 80 dollar section which had very few tickets to begin with. There are a ton of first row seats still available. Almost all of them are, right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: BigBlueCrew on June 05, 2019, 07:28:15 PM
Wow.. 8 tickets.  So, I guess there's not going to be a lot for sale on Sat...

Don't know why they couldn't let STH take thier seats first, say a 24 hour window, then open it up to VFC STH for another day, and then this open season 8 ticket for those that did not want thier own seats starting on Friday at noon, and then open season on Sat... kinda sucks for guys like Donny and my buddy who have amazing seats but won't be allowed to sit in them...

There are still probably 30,000 plus tickets available right now. Where do you sit? You can't tell me that you can't find a similar or even better seat right now. LITERALLY EVERY SEAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Buck on June 05, 2019, 07:39:37 PM
If you want to go, pay the money.  If not, then don't.  The Bombers didn't set the ticket prices, nor could they hold anyone's seats.  I sit in the lower bowl for my season tickets but bought an upper deck for the NFL game because that's all I was willing to spend.  Am I upset that I am not going to be in "MY" seats for a game, no.  Like somebody else said, you don't OWN that seat.  If there is a concert at the stadium do you expect to get your STH seat as well? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Bluehawk on June 05, 2019, 07:43:16 PM
Season ticket holder for many years and was looking forward to seeing this game.  There is ZERO chance of me paying 330 for my seat to watch Rodgers play likely one quarter of football.  Absolutely ludicrous pricing but if the market will pay I suppose why not.  If anyone wants some tickets before the public sale let me know....lol...no rush as there are many available.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 05, 2019, 07:45:05 PM
I got mine (cheapest ones). Looking forward to it and to see how much interest (or lack there of) there is going to be on Friday. The Promocode has been leaked everywhere. i?m Surprised there are still so many tickets left.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 07:50:54 PM
I got mine (cheapest ones). Looking forward to it and to see how much interest (or lack there of) there is going to be on Friday. The Promocode has been leaked everywhere. i?m Surprised there are still so many tickets left.

I think they're just priced a bit too high. I look at it like I'll probably never get a chance to see an NFL game in Winnipeg again so it's worth it for that alone but it is pre-season and that can be kind of dreadful at times. It's the "good" pre-season week but still. I can see why some people would pass, you can do a lot with $400.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 05, 2019, 07:54:26 PM
I think they're just priced a bit too high. I look at it like I'll probably never get a chance to see an NFL game in Winnipeg again so it's worth it for that alone but it is pre-season and that can be kind of dreadful at times. It's the "good" pre-season week but still. I can see why some people would pass, you can do a lot with $400.

The $100 I paid is basically the price of a Jets game, so no regrets


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 07:56:26 PM
Thats about the going rate in the stadiums i have  checked. This is canadian dollars so not too bad. Id pay in the 150-200 range. To go to a game and travel. Would cost alot more. Do season ticket holders get first crack at the tickets.?

Not even close.  For the exhibition game in Minny vs. Seattle, end zone seats are selling for $65 (not resale which are actually lower).  Here those seats are $280.  Sideline seats in Minny near centre field are $165, here they will be $325 or $375.  Upper deck seats are $30 - $60.  Here , they are over $200.  

Why would people from Winnipeg pay those prices when Minneapolis is an easy drive to check out regular season games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 07:57:31 PM
what happened 1st time?

this will help pay off the stadium that made soccer possible

This game could actually cost the Bombers money if they don't sell enough tickets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 07:57:32 PM
The $100 I paid is basically the price of a Jets game, so no regrets

Oh ya, I'm going too. Seeing Aaron Rodgers for a quarter or two is worth the price alone but even still I never regret paying to watch live football. Way cheaper than traveling to see a game which is what I normally do. Just that I can see why some folks may pass.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
Soccer is not a sport. I've sat got tickets thru work to whitecaps and TFC games when I've been on work trips. One game ended in a 0-0 tie. The fans were absolutekly thrilled for some reason. How can a 0-0 tie be a good outcome? Thats boring AF and pathetic. just my 2 cents

haha.  Tell that to the rest of the world.  There is no other sport more popular then soccer.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 05, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
This game could actually cost the Bombers money if they don't sell enough tickets.

Bombers aren?t putting on the event. They will make money from the Stadium rental regardless of how many people buy tickets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:07:36 PM
Based on the prices you have seen, will this game sell out?

Doubtful.  Unless corporations buy at least two-thirds of the seats and the corporate wealth in a city of 800,000 will only get you so far.  Far better to go to Minny and see a regular season game that means something and possibly for a comparable price in many cases.

i think they will sell half the seats in the weeks leading up to the game and then start selling bunches of tickets to businesses at a fraction of the cost to bring official attendance up into the 25,000 range...something like Nissan buying thousands of Grey Cup tickets in 2015 for a fraction of their face value to help the game sellout.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:11:11 PM
Wow.. 8 tickets.  So, I guess there's not going to be a lot for sale on Sat...

Don't know why they couldn't let STH take thier seats first, say a 24 hour window, then open it up to VFC STH for another day, and then this open season 8 ticket for those that did not want thier own seats starting on Friday at noon, and then open season on Sat... kinda sucks for guys like Donny and my buddy who have amazing seats but won't be allowed to sit in them...

Seats have barely moved.  Cheapest seats have sold out - no surprise as those are really the only reasonably priced ones.  My guess is by Saturday, they will be lucky to have sold 10,000 tickets total. 5,000 - 7,000 maybe be more likely. 

There will be lots of tickets available at those insane prices.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 08:12:19 PM
Quote
sources say the NFL dictates the price of admission.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/winnipeg-officially-set-to-host-nfl-pre-season-tilt-510842702.html


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:16:53 PM
Bombers aren?t putting on the event. They will make money from the Stadium rental regardless of how many people buy tickets.

Are you sure the NFL teams are paying for their own travel and accommodations?  That could easily run into the millions given how large training camp rosters are.  I had heard the Bombers had to pick up a portion of the tab. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: BigBlueCrew on June 05, 2019, 08:20:12 PM
Are you sure the NFL teams are paying for their own travel and accommodations?  That could easily run into the millions given how large training camp rosters are.  I had heard the Bombers had to pick up a portion of the tab. 

Why wouldn't the teams be paying for their own travel and accommodations? Makes no difference where the game is.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TBURGESS on June 05, 2019, 08:25:31 PM
Why wouldn't the teams be paying for their own travel and accommodations? Makes no difference where the game is.
Only the away team has to pay for travel. In this case both teams have to travel. I'm guessing that the Bombers have to pay for the 'home' teams travel expenses.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 05, 2019, 08:28:44 PM
Once again. The Bombers aren?t putting on the event. A promotion has rented the stadium.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 08:29:08 PM
Only the away team has to pay for travel. In this case both teams have to travel. I'm guessing that the Bombers have to pay for the 'home' teams travel expenses.

Honestly, I doubt it the Bombers are paying for that. The Raiders chose to come here instead of play somewhere close by in the US. There are a ton of stadiums. Who knows how the gate money is carved up exactly but it's almost certainly underwritten by the promoter like virtually every concert and big travelling event. The NFL has a ton of money and has always played nice with the CFL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:34:18 PM
Why wouldn't the teams be paying for their own travel and accommodations? Makes no difference where the game is.

I would have to think the Bombers would have to pay for at least the Raiders travel and hotel.  That is an extra expense they would not have to incur had the game been at home.  It may have also been part of negotiations or conditions set upon the Bombers to bring an NFL game here.  NFL - give us certain things or we will take this game elsewhere.

As for rent, I'm sure the Bombers will receive a base amount, but it is possible they could receive an amount over and above this based on the amount of ticket revenue?  ie. if the game bombs will the team actually receive more then a few hundred thousand in rent?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:35:47 PM
Only the away team has to pay for travel. In this case both teams have to travel. I'm guessing that the Bombers have to pay for the 'home' teams travel expenses.

See that makes sense to me - Bombers pay for the Raiders hotel and airfare.  That could run over a million easily.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:38:12 PM
Honestly, I doubt it the Bombers are paying for that. The Raiders chose to come here instead of play somewhere close by in the US. There are a ton of stadiums. Who knows how the gate money is carved up exactly but it's almost certainly underwritten by the promoter like virtually every concert and big travelling event. The NFL has a ton of money and has always played nice with the CFL.

They could use those other stadiums and locations as leverage in negotiations though.  Pay for our hotel and airfare or we will look at another market that will.

I certainly don't think the NFL is playing nice.  Look at those ticket prices - gouging the market.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
StubHub has all the Pinacle Club seats, you can't buy then off of TicketMaster. But for $4,500 a seat, you can get them from StubHub!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:52:42 PM
With approx. 33,000 seats which includes the suites and loges (no prices listed for those but pretty much guaranteed over $300 per seat):

19,000 will be $330 or higher
23,000 will be $260 or higher
25,000 will be $240 or higher

There are approx.:

3500 for $190
3500 for $170
1000 for $75

The average ticket price is probably closer to $250 or $275.  Grey Cup-like prices for an exhibition game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 08:54:11 PM
StubHub has all the Pinacle Club seats, you can't buy then off of TicketMaster. But for $4,500 a seat, you can get them from StubHub!

Sweet.  Can you grab me a pair?  I promise to pay you back one of these days. :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue girl on June 05, 2019, 08:54:22 PM
I'm not surprised that the cheapest seats are gone. I sit in section 202 which is the next highest price for this game and IMO these are the best seats. The price for me is too much however. I'll watch it on TSN.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 05, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
There are still probably 30,000 plus tickets available right now. Where do you sit? You can't tell me that you can't find a similar or even better seat right now. LITERALLY EVERY SEAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW

My "seats" are right near Donny... row 3 sec 108...  not my seat yet, maybe next year, but I'm not spending $300+ for an NFL game...

Have to wonder what percentage of the teams will frequent one of our local dispensaries... or do they still test for that randomly?  Would make for an interesting game...

The only positive I can see coming from this game will be that a lot of NFL fringe players will get a very favourable taste of CFL, seeing our facilities and our fans...  


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 08:57:32 PM
LOL! The bomber s have zero risk in this venture. A promotion company is paying to rent the stadium. No dif than a concert of hockey ame.  Pure cashcow for the club.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 08:59:41 PM
StubHub has all the Pinacle Club seats, you can't buy then off of TicketMaster. But for $4,500 a seat, you can get them from StubHub!

The sellers haven't bought any tickets there yet. If someone actually pays the $4500, then the seller goes out and finds a ticket, and makes a profit on the difference. Standard scalpers game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 09:01:07 PM
The sellers haven't bought any tickets there yet. If someone actually pays the $4500, then the seller goes out and finds a ticket, and makes a profit on the difference. Standard scalpers game.

These seats are not available from Ticket Master. (So essentially Ticket Master is only listing those seats on Stub Hub, as they are the same company).


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 09:05:16 PM
These seats are not available from Ticket Master. (So essentially Ticket Master is only listing those seats on Stub Hub, as they are the same company).

I understand that. A seller is preemptively listing them , without holding a ticket, hoping some rube will pay $4500. If that happens, the seller then goes out and finds a ticket. Or waits til last minuteto find a ticket if they think prices will plummet. Every big event works this way.



Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 05, 2019, 09:05:25 PM
The sellers haven't bought any tickets there yet. If someone actually pays the $4500, then the seller goes out and finds a ticket, and makes a profit on the difference. Standard scalpers game.

Pretty sure stubhub requires the tickets to be in hand already...

Maybe the pinnacle seats have a seat license...  

"My" seats are sold, not sure if my buddy's partner already bought them...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 09:06:59 PM
I understand that. A seller is preemptively listing them , without holding a ticket, hoping some rube will pay $4500. If that happens, the seller then goes out and finds a ticket. Or waits til last minuteto find a ticket if they think prices will plummet. Every big event works this way.



I think that seller is Ticket Master! Since they have not listed those seats at all.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 05, 2019, 09:09:11 PM
Million dollar question....


Will the Jim Beam Social Pass program be in effect?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: PurpleReign on June 05, 2019, 09:09:40 PM
Have a cousin who advertises at games.  They have first crack at tickets and he was able to purchase up to 8 Tickets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 09:13:07 PM
I wonder is Sask saw the ticket prices and thought, "Forget it." Even if we are making a profit it will be bad publicity if this is not a wild success."


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 09:13:16 PM
I think that seller is Ticket Master! Since they have not listed those seats at all.

There's also $4500 tickets on stubhub in the endzone, and other raandom sections. Some sleazy ticket broker/ticket broker software has preemptively listed tickets they  don't hold, for a default price of $4500. Ticket master is not invloved in the indicidua l listings. Those prices are just a placeholder likely software setup when the event was officially listed. Don't look to much into it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Tiger on June 05, 2019, 10:13:59 PM
Okay

Never got the email

Can?t sign into account

No presale password

I?m losing the urges



Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 10:18:16 PM
My "seats" are right near Donny... row 3 sec 108...  not my seat yet, maybe next year, but I'm not spending $300+ for an NFL game...

Have to wonder what percentage of the teams will frequent one of our local dispensaries... or do they still test for that randomly?  Would make for an interesting game...

The only positive I can see coming from this game will be that a lot of NFL fringe players will get a very favourable taste of CFL, seeing our facilities and our fans...  

What about a $140 or $190 ticket?  Will you buy one of those?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 10:20:58 PM
Okay

Never got the email

Can?t sign into account

No presale password

I?m losing the urges



All the same issues I experienced!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 05, 2019, 10:21:27 PM
I wonder is Sask saw the ticket prices and thought, "Forget it." Even if we are making a profit it will be bad publicity if this is not a wild success."

Probably.  Small city having an NHL game and Garth Brooks concert at Mosaic couldn't possibly afford to have an NFL game with Grey Cup like prices on top of that.  The scheduling of their CFL game is just an excuse.  They could have rescheduled that if they really wanted an NFL game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 05, 2019, 10:22:01 PM
There's also $4500 tickets on stubhub in the endzone, and other raandom sections. Some sleazy ticket broker/ticket broker software has preemptively listed tickets they  don't hold, for a default price of $4500. Ticket master is not invloved in the indicidua l listings. Those prices are just a placeholder likely software setup when the event was officially listed. Don't look to much into it.

So why are the Pinnacle Club seats not available for purchase through Ticket Master?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Bluehawk on June 05, 2019, 10:29:01 PM
Listening to some of the radio boys this afternoon and wondering what the hype is for this "week 3" exhibition game.  Take 2 minutes and google last years week 3 exhibition game between the same 2 teams.  Rodgers did not dress and Carr was 2/3 in passing. One touchdown in the 4th.  For fans expecting to see a bona fide NFL context, this will be a big disappointment.  There is NO chance that the NFL and these teams do something special or play a ton of starters just because its in Winnipeg.  NFL is big business and this is just a place to play, a game put on by a promoter, and there will be no risk to the starters or stars in this game.  Promoter will try and get every dollar out of the city. Buyer beware...its your money but know what you are buying.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue girl on June 05, 2019, 10:34:20 PM
So why are the Pinnacle Club seats not available for purchase through Ticket Master?
Probably planning to sell them to some NFL bigwigs. LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: ModAdmin on June 05, 2019, 10:35:03 PM
Raiders to Host Packers in Winnipeg for Preseason Game

June 5


The Oakland Raiders, in association with On Ice Entertainment Ltd., will host the Green Bay Packers in Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada for a preseason Week 3 game on
Thursday, Aug. 22, 2019. The contest, scheduled for a 7p.m. (Central Time) kickoff at IGField, will mark the first ever game north of the border for the Silver and Black.

Over the previous six months, the Raiders have worked with On Ice Entertainment to locate and establish a host site for the first NFL game in Canada since the Buffalo Bills played games at Toronto's Rogers Centre each year from 2008.

Tickets will go on sale to the general public on Saturday, June 8 at 10 a.m. (Central Time). Ticket prices, determined by On Ice Entertainment, range from $75 to $340 CDN (plus taxes and fees).

The game will be broadcast via the Raiders television network, including KTVU/FOX 2 in the Bay Area and KVVU/FOX 5 in Las Vegas.

The game will be televised nationally in Canada on TSN and RDS.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: PurpleReign on June 05, 2019, 10:38:55 PM
Listening to some of the radio boys this afternoon and wondering what the hype is for this "week 3" exhibition game.  Take 2 minutes and google last years week 3 exhibition game between the same 2 teams.  Rodgers did not dress and Carr was 2/3 in passing. One touchdown in the 4th.  For fans expecting to see a bona fide NFL context, this will be a big disappointment.  There is NO chance that the NFL and these teams do something special or play a ton of starters just because its in Winnipeg.  NFL is big business and this is just a place to play, a game put on by a promoter, and there will be no risk to the starters or stars in this game.  Promoter will try and get every dollar out of the city. Buyer beware...its your money but know what you are buying.

If you going to catch a NFL preseason game, Game #3 is the one you want to be at.  Teams usually play their starters for the first half of that game.  Just because Rodgers and Carr didn't play or played little doesn't mean the rest of the starters weren't there. Check out the other teams Game #3 preseason and you will see lots of stars and starters on every team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Bluehawk on June 05, 2019, 10:44:08 PM
Look at the stat sheet...was just not the quarterbacks not playing alot.  Virtually no starters on offence with any stats.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 05, 2019, 10:45:25 PM
Okay

Never got the email

Can?t sign into account

No presale password

I?m losing the urges



stm is the promo code


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Bluehawk on June 05, 2019, 10:46:00 PM
But hey, if a football fan wants to spend his or her money, go for it.  Just realize what you are paying for.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 05, 2019, 10:46:34 PM
All the same issues I experienced!

stm is the promo code


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 05, 2019, 11:06:11 PM
So why are the Pinnacle Club seats not available for purchase through Ticket Master?

IDK, probably because its a presale. Probably only avaibable to existing STH's in the Pinnacle Club, alumni, business partners, bigwigs, etc. Us Plebs aren't worthy (yet)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Cheesebuster on June 05, 2019, 11:18:03 PM
I wonder is Sask saw the ticket prices and thought, "Forget it." Even if we are making a profit it will be bad publicity if this is not a wild success."
nah I don't think so. I expect it will be pretty packed but even if it isn't we don't look bad. We're just not gonna be played for suckers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 11:36:29 PM
Aaron Rodgers on playing in Winnipeg and his thoughts on the CFL: https://twitter.com/packers/status/1136331903353704452?s=21


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2019, 11:41:46 PM
If you are a STH and you never got the email my guess is at some point you opted out of promotional emails from the Bombers. They have to be CASL compliant so my guess is some offer didn't apply to you and you changed your preferences. Only problem is that removes you from all future promotional emails, like this one.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 01:21:35 AM
If you are a STH and you never got the email my guess is at some point you opted out of promotional emails from the Bombers. They have to be CASL compliant so my guess is some offer didn't apply to you and you changed your preferences. Only problem is that removes you from all future promotional emails, like this one.

I never opted out, but how would I check my settings?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 01:27:26 AM
I looked back and I was receiving promotional e-mail in 2018, but not in 2019. I am 100% sure I have not opted out of receiving such e-mails, and when I called in to the Season Ticket center they had the correct e-mail address on file.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Tiger on June 06, 2019, 01:27:38 AM
stm is the promo code

Got tickets. Thanks


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Tiger on June 06, 2019, 01:29:09 AM
I never opted out, but how would I check my settings?

Neither did I. Not much warning either


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: PurpleReign on June 06, 2019, 01:33:57 AM
Look at the stat sheet...was just not the quarterbacks not playing alot.  Virtually no starters on offence with any stats.

You guys are only looking at these 2 teams.  Look at the other games last year and it's a different picture.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 06, 2019, 01:46:56 AM
On Ice Entertainment is actually code for NFL Headquarters...  the NFL has heard of the increasing number of fans north of the border and they want to try and snag as many as they can while the iron is still hot... having On Ice Ent. being the front for the promotion keeps the NFL from looking like they are trying to poach Canadian fans...

you have to ask yourself, what's in it for Oakland to give up their home game and have it played in Canada? I doubt that the Raiders organization is doing so for the good of the league... I don't believe that they think people from Winnipeg will now become Raiders fans and start attending Raiders game at Oakland Alameda Coliseum in Oakland...

last year the Raiders played Green Bay at home in week 3 of preseason and had attendance of 53,832... why would you give up a home game and the revenue to move it to another country and at a stadium that has a max seat capacity of roughly 35,000? that's almost 19,000 fewer fans than attended last year, and that's if it's a sell out...

You can bet that the NFL is covering the loss of revenue for the Raiders...

which isn't a bad thing... it's great that football fans in Canada get a chance to see the NFL live and up close... for many, it may be the only opportunity they may get...

but if I were the Bombers, or any CFL team for that matter, I would never consider allowing an NFL game in my CFL stadium... that is unless they were paying me an insane amount of cash... why let the fox into the hen house?

for those that are excited about and are going to the game, I hope they put on a good game for you and you have a great experience!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on June 06, 2019, 02:12:58 AM
On Ice Entertainment is actually code for NFL Headquarters...  the NFL has heard of the increasing number of fans north of the border and they want to try and snag as many as they can while the iron is still hot... having On Ice Ent. being the front for the promotion keeps the NFL from looking like they are trying to poach Canadian fans...

That sounds plausible, but On Ice Entertainment is a Canadian company headed by John Graham. They have staged numerous events across Canada with a bunch in Saskatchewan (NHL exhibitions, Soccer matches, auto races etc).


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: PurpleReign on June 06, 2019, 02:14:38 AM
On Ice Entertainment is actually code for NFL Headquarters...  the NFL has heard of the increasing number of fans north of the border and they want to try and snag as many as they can while the iron is still hot... having On Ice Ent. being the front for the promotion keeps the NFL from looking like they are trying to poach Canadian fans...

you have to ask yourself, what's in it for Oakland to give up their home game and have it played in Canada? I doubt that the Raiders organization is doing so for the good of the league... I don't believe that they think people from Winnipeg will now become Raiders fans and start attending Raiders game at Oakland Alameda Coliseum in Oakland...

last year the Raiders played Green Bay at home in week 3 of preseason and had attendance of 53,832... why would you give up a home game and the revenue to move it to another country and at a stadium that has a max seat capacity of roughly 35,000? that's almost 19,000 fewer fans than attended last year, and that's if it's a sell out...

You can bet that the NFL is covering the loss of revenue for the Raiders...



which isn't a bad thing... it's great that football fans in Canada get a chance to see the NFL live and up close... for many, it may be the only opportunity they may get...

but if I were the Bombers, or any CFL team for that matter, I would never consider allowing an NFL game in my CFL stadium... that is unless they were paying me an insane amount of cash... why let the fox into the hen house?

for those that are excited about and are going to the game, I hope they put on a good game for you and you have a great experience!

Ticket prices for preseason games are not this high in the US.  Although there is less fans some of the revenue is recovered with higher ticket prices.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 06, 2019, 02:35:09 AM
That sounds plausible, but On Ice Entertainment is a Canadian company headed by John Graham. They have staged numerous events across Canada with a bunch in Saskatchewan (NHL exhibitions, Soccer matches, auto races etc).

I believe Graham is the guy that tried to bring an NHL team to Saskatoon about decade or so ago. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 06, 2019, 04:09:15 AM
Ticket prices for preseason games are not this high in the US.  Although there is less fans some of the revenue is recovered with higher ticket prices.

true, but... there will also be lost revenue from suite sales... parking... concessions... team game day merch sales... plus, they have the added cost of travel, accommodations, and meals...

obviously my comment that On Ice Ent. was code for NFL headquarters was tongue in cheek, I do believe that the NFL is subsidizing this game, at least in part...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Ladybug on June 06, 2019, 04:29:36 AM
It is interesting to compare ticket prices for an L.A. Chargers pre-season match with the game at IG Field.
The capacity at the Chargers home field is only around 27,000.
On average, prices are probably doubled for the game in Winnipeg.

In L.A., an abundance of re-sales are going for under $50, under $40, under $30 and plenty waiting for a buyer at $23.

Sure, it is a one time unique event for Winnipeg. A premium is expected. But this kind of gouging will turn off a lot of people.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 06, 2019, 06:58:55 AM
but if I were the Bombers, or any CFL team for that matter, I would never consider allowing an NFL game in my CFL stadium... that is unless they were paying me an insane amount of cash... why let the fox into the hen house?

As discussed earlier, CFL/WFC can't lose with this.  You get Winnipegger NFL-only fans into IGF and they might like the atmosphere and come to a Bombers game.  Even if you only get one conversion, that's a win.  And a Bombers fan attending is never going to say "hey, I didn't know about this NFL thing and now I hate CFL".  It's basically free (or they pay us!) advertising for IGF and Bombers.  It's all upside, and a coup for us snatching this from SSK.

Have to wonder what percentage of the teams will frequent one of our local dispensaries... or do they still test for that randomly?  Would make for an interesting game...

I dunno, is Duron Carter on their team?  Forget that, he can just hook them up at Richardson International!  In-terminal service can't be beat.

nfl vs candian regional soccer. LOL obviously NFL gets priority. Is the Valour even pro? Do the players get paid?

Yes, what is this strange soc-cer of which they speak?  Is that a card game, like euchre?   ;)

Oh, you say they run around on the field for 2 hours, back and forth, back and forth, bonking their heads on things, and getting 1 score in the 2 hours and always ending in a tie?  Nope, still never heard of it.   ;)

I have on the other hand due to being a Patriots fan gone to Gillette Stadium on 2 occassions.

Back, ye demon spawn!   ;) ;D

Million dollar question....
Will the Jim Beam Social Pass program be in effect?

 ;D ;D  Winner winner!  $37 with a beer sounds good to me!  Oh... you mean $370 with no beer? ...


you have to ask yourself, what's in it for Oakland to give up their home game and have it played in Canada? I doubt that the Raiders organization is doing so for the good of the league... I don't believe that they think people from Winnipeg will now become Raiders fans and start attending Raiders game at Oakland Alameda Coliseum in Oakland...

Why not, that "family of the game" guy did the reverse from San Diego!  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 06, 2019, 02:14:49 PM
Least expensive seats are now $169... $266+ for anything in the lower bowl... "My" seats would be, $399..  no thanks to either.


I'm thinking there are going to be a lot of empty seats..  how many buses of fans do they expect from Green Bay?  Sounds like there might be one or two coming from SSK...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 06, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
(http://www.riderfans.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=448218&d=1559765059)

Nice image from Riderfans... slightly cheaper than heritage classic tickets, but there isn't a local team involved...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on June 06, 2019, 02:46:34 PM
I haven't been following this thread since its inception, so forgive me if this has been stated before.

I want the Bombers to make serious coin off of this venture. However, part of me would like to see this be a bit of a flop. I think it is kind of offensive that these are the prices being charged for a meaningless game. I'd like to see people collectively thumb their noses at the suggestion that tickets to see this are worth that much.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: kkc60 on June 06, 2019, 02:51:15 PM
It's crazy expensive cuz it never comes here. Don't like the prices? Don't go. But of course its gonna be expensive. The NFL is a much more expensive league than the CFL


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 06, 2019, 03:02:38 PM
33000 tickets to sell in a market of less than 1 million potential purchasers.  1 in 30 people need to buy a ticket to sell out.. with no local participation...  wow...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 06, 2019, 03:11:30 PM
33000 tickets to sell in a market of less than 1 million potential purchasers.

You're ignoring people who might come from outside of Manitoba. Not saying we'll get anyone from Florida or California, but possibly some from North Dakota or northern Minnesota and NW Ontario.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on June 06, 2019, 03:18:12 PM
It's crazy expensive cuz it never comes here. Don't like the prices? Don't go. But of course its gonna be expensive. The NFL is a much more expensive league than the CFL

Regular season, I'd be all in on those prices. Pre-season, zero chance (I also have no interest in either of these teams, so that's a factor, too).

Both of these teams have large national followings. I do suspect that people will make the trip from nearby states.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 03:21:58 PM
It was interesting to see how this unfolded.

Official announcement, pre-sale very quickly after. 

I wonder if they were trying to create a sense of urgency?

It would have worked for me if I could have bought the regular seat I sit in for the Bombers. I wonder how many more Bomber season ticket holders would have purchased tickets if they could sit in their regular seat.

At this point, I am not going.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: kkc60 on June 06, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
Regular season, I'd be all in on those prices. Pre-season, zero chance (I also have no interest in either of these teams, so that's a factor, too).

Both of these teams have large national followings. I do suspect that people will make the trip from nearby states.
Thing is: the NFL isn't afraid to travel for regular season games. But if the market sucks, why would they come back?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 06, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
You're ignoring people who might come from outside of Manitoba. Not saying we'll get anyone from Florida or California, but possibly some from North Dakota or northern Minnesota and NW Ontario.

nope... saying the market is a million, Winnipeg is only 700k... I'm allowing for 300k from surrounding markets ;)  

Every event will draw some from outside the immediate market, for sure.  But if you are banking on that to sell out your stadium... oops..



The issue I see happening is that they have established the price, and sold tickets.  No going back on this, no discounting... otherwise existing customers get really upset.  Although I would love to see that happen, and get all the ticket speculators a spanking to their wallets.  


It was interesting to see how this unfolded.

Official announcement, pre-sale very quickly after. 

I wonder if they were trying to create a sense of urgency?

It would have worked for me if I could have bought the regular seat I sit in for the Bombers. I wonder how many more Bomber season ticket holders would have purchased tickets if they could sit in their regular seat.

At this point, I am not going.

At $399 a ticket?  I get it, getting on national TV in the states would be easy with your tickets... is this a televised game?

Regular season, I'd be all in on those prices. Pre-season, zero chance (I also have no interest in either of these teams, so that's a factor, too).

Both of these teams have large national followings. I do suspect that people will make the trip from nearby states.

Yup, I can see some tickets being sold that way... hundreds, maybe even a few thousand, although that might be unlikely.  There could be a spike in RV parking sales, and I'd wonder about the tailgaiting.  That might be worth the trip down before the game.

Also, the Raiders have PO'd a lot of their fans with the Vegas move.  Green Bay has die hards, for sure, and they are close enough to maybe come here, not sure if the $can makes it attractive, or whether some people just can't get tickets to Lambeau...   I remember Jets fans taking a bus to Minnesota to see the Jets...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
Yah, as a once in a lifetime kind of thing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 06, 2019, 03:36:49 PM

you have to ask yourself, what's in it for Oakland to give up their home game and have it played in Canada? I doubt that the Raiders organization is doing so for the good of the league... I don't believe that they think people from Winnipeg will now become Raiders fans and start attending Raiders game at Oakland Alameda Coliseum in Oakland...


What? Love me some conspiracy theories but this is easily debunked. Raiders are giving up a home game because they have to. They have a very stained relationship with The Oakland Colosseum right now, there was a chance they wouldn't play any home games in Oakland this year, they were looking at using the 49ers stadium or SF Giants ballpark for 2019. Just in March their lease at the coliseum got extended 1 year, and their rent more than doubled.

Reason being they move to Las Vegas next year. Doubt it's their goal, but it's conceivable Winnipegers would go to Vegas to attend a game. Lots do for Golden Knights games.

My theory on why they choose Canada and CFL cities is logistics. CFL teams have logistics chains set up to host big football games. Hotels agreements, careering for teams, transportation, etc. A lot of behind the scenes stuff needed to host a game of this level. NCAA schools probably could too but it might encroach on other NFL markets. Toronto and Vancouver were probably first choice but their stadiums have MLs tenants, and a lot ntow events. Edmonton Calgary have dumpy stadiums. sask and Winnipeg have nice new underused stadiums and football crazy fans. Perfect storm and I doubt it'll happen again in my lifetime, so I got my ticket :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 06, 2019, 03:39:15 PM
It was interesting to see how this unfolded.

Official announcement, pre-sale very quickly after. 

I wonder if they were trying to create a sense of urgency?

It had been rumoured for some time, but I'll agree that the pre-sale was very quick (30 minutes after the official announcement).

It would have worked for me if I could have bought the regular seat I sit in for the Bombers. I wonder how many more Bomber season ticket holders would have purchased tickets if they could sit in their regular seat.

At this point, I am not going.

For sake of interest, what is so vital about your specific seat that makes not getting it your deciding factor? If you're there to watch the game you can do so from any seat in the house.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 06, 2019, 03:46:59 PM
It had been rumoured for some time, but I'll agree that the pre-sale was very quick (30 minutes after the official announcement).

For sake of interest, what is so vital about your specific seat that makes not getting it your deciding factor? If you're there to watch the game you can do so from any seat in the house.

There is a very important reason for Donny to be in row one behind the opposing bench... but I'll let everyone else post the pictures


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 06, 2019, 03:48:31 PM
There is a very important reason for Donny to be in row one behind the opposing bench... but I'll let everyone else post the pictures

We all know what reason you're referring to. Just want to hear from the source.  ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: booch on June 06, 2019, 03:52:56 PM
What? Love me some conspiracy theories but this is easily debunked. Raiders are giving up a home game because they have to. They have a very stained relationship with The Oakland Colosseum right now, there was a chance they wouldn't play any home games in Oakland this year, they were looking at using the 49ers stadium or SF Giants ballpark for 2019. Just in March their lease at the coliseum got extended 1 year, and their rent more than doubled.

Reason being they move to Las Vegas next year. Doubt it's their goal, but it's conceivable Winnipegers would go to Vegas to attend a game. Lots do for Golden Knights games.

My theory on why they choose Canada and CFL cities is logistics. CFL teams have logistics chains set up to host big football games. Hotels agreements, careering for teams, transportation, etc. A lot of behind the scenes stuff needed to host a game of this level. NCAA schools probably could too but it might encroach on other NFL markets. Toronto and Vancouver were probably first choice but their stadiums have MLs tenants, and a lot ntow events. Edmonton Calgary have dumpy stadiums. sask and Winnipeg have nice new underused stadiums and football crazy fans. Perfect storm and I doubt it'll happen again in my lifetime, so I got my ticket :)
Actually..even though an older staduim now the Esk's have one of..if not THE best facilities for players..staff..training etc...as well as team amenities. Has been noted in media that their facilities rival many, and beat a lot of NFL organizations..their facilities are top notch


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 04:08:07 PM
To me, watching the game is not just sitting there and viewing. It's an interactive experience. From chatting with the police officers (they think my taunts are funny), to heckling the other team (and researching the players ahead of time), arm wrestling players like Alan Michale Cash, having Mike Riely almost trip over a cooler, getting free swag like a signed towel, a ball, having Odell Willis come over and eat some popcorn, giving a player a 7-11 Big Buck, it is all part of the experience.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 06, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
To me, watching the game is not just sitting there and viewing. It's an interactive experience. From chatting with the police officers (they think my taunts are funny), to heckling the other team (and researching the players ahead of time), arm wrestling players like Alan Michale Cash, having Mike Riely almost trip over a cooler, getting free swag like a signed towel, a ball, having Odell Willis come over and eat some popcorn, giving a player a 7-11 Big Buck, it is all part of the experience.

Busy guy, but you forgot "get camera love".  ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 06, 2019, 04:22:10 PM
Actually..even though an older staduim now the Esk's have one of..if not THE best facilities for players..staff..training etc...as well as team amenities. Has been noted in media that their facilities rival many, and beat a lot of NFL organizations..their facilities are top notch

Intresting, haven been there in many years. Guess Edmonton got scratched becuase we';re playing the esks there that weekend.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 04:25:33 PM
Busy guy, but you forgot "get camera love".  ;D

The cameras find me. It is the fact of the same people working the cameras looking for shots that will be appropriate for tv. I do very little to get on tv, but I do still enjoy it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on June 06, 2019, 04:41:56 PM
The cameras find me. It is the fact of the same people working the cameras looking for shots that will be appropriate for tv. I do very little to get on tv, but I do still enjoy it.

Yeah, you keep believing that....


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 06, 2019, 04:43:00 PM
We have decided to pass on the game unless some cheap second hand seats can be found at the last minute. 

1) the football will likely be pretty bad - just the way of preseason

2) for me being a big NFL fan the attraction is the star players and the hype of the experience being at the NFL show...the stars will be limited and the experience/hype will not be the same as being in the States immersed in the fandom.

3) what I would pay for if I could justify it would be the seats right behind the benches - lots of $$ but you would be just feet away from Gruden and assuming guys like AB on the sidelines.  Seeing that is what would make it somewhat worthwhile.   Watching the game from the upper deck just won't be the same.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 06, 2019, 04:45:20 PM
We have decided to pass on the game unless some cheap second hand seats can be found at the last minute. 

1) the football will likely be pretty bad - just the way of preseason

2) for me being a big NFL fan the attraction is the star players and the hype of the experience being at the NFL show...the stars will be limited and the experience/hype will not be the same as being in the States immersed in the fandom.

3) what I would pay for if I could justify it would be the seats right behind the benches - lots of $$ but you would be just feet away from Gruden and assuming guys like AB on the sidelines.  Seeing that is what would make it somewhat worthwhile.   Watching the game from the upper deck just won't be the same.

Maybe you or PJ could start that thread already ;) 

At least you won't be stopping STH's from giving their seats to deserving children...  8)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 06, 2019, 07:34:46 PM
What? Love me some conspiracy theories but this is easily debunked. Raiders are giving up a home game because they have to. They have a very stained relationship with The Oakland Colosseum right now, there was a chance they wouldn't play any home games in Oakland this year, they were looking at using the 49ers stadium or SF Giants ballpark for 2019. Just in March their lease at the coliseum got extended 1 year, and their rent more than doubled.

Reason being they move to Las Vegas next year. Doubt it's their goal, but it's conceivable Winnipegers would go to Vegas to attend a game. Lots do for Golden Knights games.

My theory on why they choose Canada and CFL cities is logistics. CFL teams have logistics chains set up to host big football games. Hotels agreements, careering for teams, transportation, etc. A lot of behind the scenes stuff needed to host a game of this level. NCAA schools probably could too but it might encroach on other NFL markets. Toronto and Vancouver were probably first choice but their stadiums have MLs tenants, and a lot ntow events. Edmonton Calgary have dumpy stadiums. sask and Winnipeg have nice new underused stadiums and football crazy fans. Perfect storm and I doubt it'll happen again in my lifetime, so I got my ticket :)

you're correct about the stadium relations, I saw the same thing when I was looking into this... however, from the fan's perspective, they are sold out on season tickets and have a wait list of over 15,000... now that won't matter once they move, but the raiders do have a following...

also, season tickets for Vegas are already in the sale process and as you can imagine, it's a sale out as well... so, coming to Canada won't impact that, doesn't need to, so I still have to ask, what's in it for the Raiders to do this?

Sidenote: while looking up this stuff I got into the whole nasty scheme of the PSL... what a racket! thank god you all don't have to do that in the CFL, even at a reduced price.. the PSL price in Vegas starts at $3900 per seat and goes all the way up to $75,000 per seat! Also learned that teams do not sell individual game tickets, all of those tickets sold on StubHub or TicketMaster are resale of STH tickets... which answered a question I had relative to the huge swing in price of seats located close together...



Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 06, 2019, 08:15:37 PM
so I still have to ask, what's in it for the Raiders to do this?


They've got nowhere else to go basically.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 06, 2019, 08:28:14 PM
They've got nowhere else to go basically.

they are playing preseason games 1 at home in the same place they played last year...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 08:28:32 PM
(http://www.riderfans.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=448218&d=1559765059)

Nice image from Riderfans... slightly cheaper than heritage classic tickets, but there isn't a local team involved...

Most sections at IG Field are actually more expensive then those at Mosaic for the NHL game.  The average ticket price will be higher as well.  Looking at ticketmaster, I figure the average ticket price for this NFL exhibition game is around $275.  Grey-Cup like prices.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 08:32:36 PM
It's crazy expensive cuz it never comes here. Don't like the prices? Don't go. But of course its gonna be expensive. The NFL is a much more expensive league than the CFL

People can just go to Minneapolis to see a regular season game at cheaper price - it's easily accessible.  I can split gas with a friend get 3 nights accommodations at a 3* hotel, a pair of upper deck tickets to one of the best stadiums in the world, and visit a few other attractions for a similar price that two upper deck seats ($330 each) will cost for this exhibition game at IG Field.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 08:33:59 PM
You're ignoring people who might come from outside of Manitoba. Not saying we'll get anyone from Florida or California, but possibly some from North Dakota or northern Minnesota and NW Ontario.

A few hundred perhaps, that's about it.  Cheaper to attend an exhibition game in Green Bay...where seats on StubHub sell for less then $10.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 08:35:43 PM
Thing is: the NFL isn't afraid to travel for regular season games. But if the market sucks, why would they come back?

This is a one-off or at least once in a generation event.  Even if it did sellout, it is unlikely they would come back for at least 20 years.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 06, 2019, 08:35:47 PM
they are playing preseason games 1 at home in the same place they played last year...

They share the stadium with the Oakland A's, who are playing the Yankees at home August 22nd...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 08:44:20 PM
they are playing preseason games 1 at home in the same place they played last year...

Oakland Coliseum is not available for their second pre-season game though.  They have been looking for an alternative stadium to host this game for some time now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 08:51:31 PM
Taking a look at ticketmaster  and being generous and assuming all those greyed out dots are sold seats, they may have sold 4,000 at this point.  Considering heavily hyped events rely on the majority of ticket sales in pre-sale (especially when codes are easily available) I think it's safe to say that is an underwhelming number.  Not surprisingly, the majority of those sales are at the three cheapest price points in the upper deck.

By Saturday, when these tickets go on sale to the general public, there will probably be less then 10,000 sold.  Ultimately that means the stadium  will llikely be a little more then half full (20,000ish) for the game in August...unless the start discounting some of the tickets.

Note:  Just noticed The Black Hole is next to the family section and non-alcoholic section.  Boy, that is one smart move by the promoter. :D ::)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 06, 2019, 08:54:42 PM
Taking a look at ticketmaster  and being generous and assuming all those greyed out dots are sold seats, they may have sold 4,000 at this point.  Considering heavily hyped events rely on the majority of ticket sales in pre-sale (especially when codes are easily available) I think it's safe to say that is an underwhelming number.  Not surprisingly, the majority of those sales are at the three cheapest price points in the upper deck.

By Saturday, when these tickets go on sale to the general public, there will probably be less then 10,000 sold.  Ultimately that means the stadium  will llikely be a little more then half full (20,000ish) for the game in August...unless the start discounting some of the tickets.

Note:  Just noticed The Black Hole is next to the family section and non-alcoholic section.  Boy, that is one smart move by the promoter. :D ::)

The pinnacle club sections have not been available for sale, at least not to the public.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: RebusRankin on June 06, 2019, 08:59:57 PM
You're ignoring people who might come from outside of Manitoba. Not saying we'll get anyone from Florida or California, but possibly some from North Dakota or northern Minnesota and NW Ontario.

Why would somebody come from ND or Northern Minny? Cheaper to go to a Vikes regular season game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 06, 2019, 09:02:19 PM
They share the stadium with the Oakland A's, who are playing the Yankees at home August 22nd...

that makes more sense... I'm not a baseball fan...   but, you would have to think that if nothing else, they could have worked out a revenue deal with Green Bay and played the game there...

what if some of these boys can get a passport? lol...

in all honesty though, it's a compliment to Winnipeg and Canada as a whole because the NFL see this as an opportunity for growth as much as solving a single game logistics issue...  I'm not sure if the Bombers logic is "if they come to see the NFL game maybe they come to see Bomber games" will pan out... but maybe seeing how much an NFL ticket cost vs. a CFL ticket for some of these people may allow them to see the value of supporting their local team...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 06, 2019, 09:03:18 PM
Why would somebody come from ND or Northern Minny? Cheaper to go to a Vikes regular season game.

displaced Raiders fan? grabbing at straws here, lol...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: gobombersgo on June 06, 2019, 09:34:39 PM
Taking a look at ticketmaster  and being generous and assuming all those greyed out dots are sold seats, they may have sold 4,000 at this point.  Considering heavily hyped events rely on the majority of ticket sales in pre-sale (especially when codes are easily available) I think it's safe to say that is an underwhelming number.  Not surprisingly, the majority of those sales are at the three cheapest price points in the upper deck.

By Saturday, when these tickets go on sale to the general public, there will probably be less then 10,000 sold.  Ultimately that means the stadium  will llikely be a little more then half full (20,000ish) for the game in August...unless the start discounting some of the tickets.

Note:  Just noticed The Black Hole is next to the family section and non-alcoholic section.  Boy, that is one smart move by the promoter. :D ::)

Brisk ticket sales for NFL pre-season game

by Paul Friesen

Ticket sales for the NFL pre-season between Green Bay and Oakland scheduled for Winnipeg in August were at just under 5,000 after the first 24 hours.

https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/brisk-ticket-sales-for-nfl-pre-season-game (https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/brisk-ticket-sales-for-nfl-pre-season-game)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 06, 2019, 10:49:28 PM

Brisk ticket sales for NFL pre-season game

by Paul Friesen

Ticket sales for the NFL pre-season between Green Bay and Oakland scheduled for Winnipeg in August were at just under 5,000 after the first 24 hours.

https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/brisk-ticket-sales-for-nfl-pre-season-game (https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/brisk-ticket-sales-for-nfl-pre-season-game)

Ok, I was off by 1,000 pretty close.  Long ways to go,  I will be impressed if they double that in the next 24 hours.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2019, 01:53:08 AM
My seats are $325.00 per. I still thinking about it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 07, 2019, 02:08:04 PM
My seats are $325.00 per. I still thinking about it.

Could just get cheaper ones


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2019, 04:13:26 PM
No I enjoy where I sit. I just have to see the valve in a NFL pre-season game at $750.00 plus, and I am not a fan of either team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on June 07, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
Hear that it costs more to open and run the Raiders :home" field than you can make off a preseason game, so they "lose less money" having it here...  not sure how true that it, but it might be, considering the new lease for this year apparently doubled...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: buckzumhoff on June 08, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
 Anyone know if you have to call the office or is their a code for season ticket holders. for the nfl pre season game 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 08, 2019, 06:28:58 AM
At least you won't be stopping STH's from giving their seats to deserving children...  8)

Well played, Aards.  Well played.

My dad & I got our tickets before the STH deadline, and we'll be going with some family from, of all places, Wisconsin.  I think it'll be great fun and you just gotta go to this once in a lifetime event.  I hope WPG represents well on TV (big crowd, etc.).  My guess is it will get over 25k.

I think the pricing is very smart.  Sure, the high prices are too high, but rich people will pay it.  But, importantly, the bad-seat low prices are low relative to the high-end seats, and that will fill up the EZs and corners.  I always say the Bombers charge too much for EZ seats.  They should learn from this when they see the EZ completely filled for the NFL game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 08, 2019, 12:21:51 PM
I?d do it but not in the budget this year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Pigskin on June 08, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Nothing wrong with giving game tickets away to young men or women that other wise wouldn't get a chance to go to a game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 08, 2019, 03:11:35 PM
Looking at ticketmaster, Quite a few tickets were sold today, however there are still tones available. Maybe 20 000 still available.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on June 08, 2019, 07:55:58 PM
Maybe 10,000 have sold and almost all of those in the 3 cheapest sections in the upper deck.  Not surprisingly, the $330 - $380 tickets from the 10 yard lines to the back corner of the endzone in the 4 corners have barely been touched.  Expect them to remain largely unsold unless the promoter comes to his senses and reduces them by at least a hundred.

Heavily hyped events usual rely on the majority of their tickets being sold in the first few days or pre-sale and sale to the general public.  Given they have only sold 10,000 or a small percentage of the most expensive tickets actually spoken for, the promoter and Wade are probably a little worried at this point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 08, 2019, 10:32:18 PM
When looking at how many tickets have sold, remember that the pinacle club seats never became available on Ticket Master. So it isn't as if the average person bout those (which account for many of the tickets "sold"


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on June 08, 2019, 11:16:10 PM
I purchased tickets the moment they went on sale. Every section was available.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: sting on June 09, 2019, 03:35:04 PM
It's hard to know how many tickets are actually sold as the NFL, the two teams and sponsors also have reserved ticket areas that make not sell.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TheHypnotoad on June 12, 2019, 01:39:02 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks)

Raiders to be featured on this season of Hard Knocks. Wow, extra layer to this game now, get to see all the behind the closed door drama


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on June 12, 2019, 02:00:20 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks)

Raiders to be featured on this season of Hard Knocks. Wow, extra layer to this game now, get to see all the behind the closed door drama


Huge....IGF game on Hard Knocks!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Tiger on June 12, 2019, 03:45:13 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks)

Raiders to be featured on this season of Hard Knocks. Wow, extra layer to this game now, get to see all the behind the closed door drama

That is good.  More exposure for Canada and CFL  via the NFL


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on June 12, 2019, 01:19:13 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001033386/article/oakland-raiders-to-be-featured-on-hbos-hard-knocks)

Raiders to be featured on this season of Hard Knocks. Wow, extra layer to this game now, get to see all the behind the closed door drama

WOW!! That's great for the city!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 19, 2019, 06:33:56 PM
Looks like ticket sales are well below expectation.

Head over to Ticket Master and see all the seats still available: https://www1.ticketmaster.ca/event/110056BCE5604DAF


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 20, 2019, 05:44:16 AM
$330 for my favorite IGF seats -- 200-level midfield nosebleeds -- is waaaay too much.  They've only sold a few dozen of those.

However, they are doing really well selling the top-price 100-level midfield, and the cheap corners.  When I first hit the site it popped up saying prices may change at any time, meaning they may be hedging their bets and dropping the price as the game gets closer.  The $192 seats seem to be the best deal in terms of view vs price; that's what I got.

If I wasn't going with my dad & friends (i.e. need to preplan), I'd wait until gameday, 2 hours before, and snap up a stubhub deal which will probably end up being 1/4 the face value.  Better yet, watch the prices, as long as tickets are left, get to IGF, and buy the most discounted ticket when I'm standing at the gate.  People get desperate in the last hour.  Only works when there are lots of tickets listed though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on June 20, 2019, 01:41:44 PM
$330 for my favorite IGF seats -- 200-level midfield nosebleeds -- is waaaay too much.  They've only sold a few dozen of those.

However, they are doing really well selling the top-price 100-level midfield, and the cheap corners.  When I first hit the site it popped up saying prices may change at any time, meaning they may be hedging their bets and dropping the price as the game gets closer.  The $192 seats seem to be the best deal in terms of view vs price; that's what I got.

If I wasn't going with my dad & friends (i.e. need to preplan), I'd wait until gameday, 2 hours before, and snap up a stubhub deal which will probably end up being 1/4 the face value.  Better yet, watch the prices, as long as tickets are left, get to IGF, and buy the most discounted ticket when I'm standing at the gate.  People get desperate in the last hour.  Only works when there are lots of tickets listed though.


I have notice that to become more standard with Ticket Master, so it isn't event specific.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on July 05, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Looks like this event is going to need a lot of give-away tickets to get people in the stands.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: trapper on July 05, 2019, 09:48:34 PM
Prices are crazy...just absolutely crazy.  I was originally so pissed that the Riders screwed up the chance for the game to be in Regina.  Been a lifetime Raiders fan...and Green Bay is my 2nd favorite team.  I've never seen Green Bay play ion person but I have gone to numerous Raider games. 

But with that...I would not buy tickets at that price...not for an exhibition game.  I may have tried for the cheap seats...

If you couldn't get me paying for prime seats...or close to prime seats....not sure how they expect other people to.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 05, 2019, 09:59:51 PM
Prices are crazy...just absolutely crazy.  I was originally so pissed that the Riders screwed up the chance for the game to be in Regina.  Been a lifetime Raiders fan...and Green Bay is my 2nd favorite team.  I've never seen Green Bay play ion person but I have gone to numerous Raider games. 

But with that...I would not buy tickets at that price...not for an exhibition game.  I may have tried for the cheap seats...

If you couldn't get me paying for prime seats...or close to prime seats....not sure how they expect other people to.
The cheap seats went first! I am in the same boat as  you there man. I am aHuge NFL fan and I would see Aaron Rogers in person in a heart beat and the Raiders are always a fun bunch especially with Chucky back at the helm.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on July 05, 2019, 10:38:02 PM
Saw on twitter that only 6000 tickets have been sold...discounts coming up..


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on July 06, 2019, 08:43:36 PM
Im absolutely stoked to see this in Winnipeg. I went to Green Bay to see them play once and it was unreal. The NFL experience is like no other.. at least in that market anyways. This time we;ll be able to tailgate with our packers stuff on. This game is goin to sell out so fast. Id assume they would get the temp seats in both ends too. There is no way they are not selling this out fast.

Care to change your mind on that bomber4life85?  ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bomb squad on July 06, 2019, 09:30:35 PM
They better do something soon, there's not a whole lot of time. It's going to have to be at least a 30% cut. In any case, a sell out appears out of the question at this point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on July 06, 2019, 09:35:40 PM
Id pay $20 to go see it


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on July 06, 2019, 10:45:49 PM
If they dropped the price to the same as the sold out sections, they might sell some more...  flat fee, rush seating....


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 06, 2019, 10:47:26 PM
They will need to seriously slash prices if they hope to garner any significant bump in sales. $20 discount won?t convince many I assume.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bowlerdude on July 07, 2019, 03:25:05 AM
prices are insane for an NFL pre-season game. I was actually looking forward to this when it was announced and after seeing the prices... I'm not going unless there's big discounts coming


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on July 07, 2019, 04:05:27 AM
I thought it was awful bold for the NFL to want to come to Canada for a preseason game and then try and charge regular season pricing.  You can find preseason tickets for just about any game here for as little as $25... not from the team, but on the secondary market, but, that's because in the last few years the teams started making preseason tickets part of the season ticket package... STHs have to take/buy the preseason tickets whether they wanted them or not...

have they ever said what they are going to do about the field? are they just going to play 'as is'?  not that they couldn't, just isn't regulation per their own rules... it's going to be a real dog for them if they are going to spend any money for some type of conversion, if they do...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on July 07, 2019, 04:17:03 AM
I thought it was awful bold for the NFL to want to come to Canada for a preseason game and then try and charge regular season pricing.  You can find preseason tickets for just about any game here for as little as $25... not from the team, but on the secondary market, but, that's because in the last few years the teams started making preseason tickets part of the season ticket package... STHs have to take/buy the preseason tickets whether they wanted them or not...

have they ever said what they are going to do about the field? are they just going to play 'as is'?  not that they couldn't, just isn't regulation per their own rules... it's going to be a real dog for them if they are going to spend any money for some type of conversion, if they do...

It will be an nfl sized field.  They mentioned that in the press conference. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on July 07, 2019, 07:38:17 AM
It will be an nfl sized field.  They mentioned that in the press conference. 

wow, so I assume that would include swapping out the turf and moving the goal post then... that won't be cheap!  I know that we, our city, was told that to replace our field's turf down the road that it would be about $500K - $600K...

that sounds like a lot but when you consider the cost to sod a field initially, and then the maintenance of the field for items such as replacement sod, fertilizer, weed and insect protection, water, marking supplies, cutting equipment, and labor cost to do all of the above that a turf field is actually cheaper to have than a natural grass field due to the life of a turf field.  the also claim that a turf field is safer to play on and fewer injuries occur.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 07, 2019, 09:25:49 AM
Well, if they do drop the prices and don't refund the difference to people who already bought tickets, there's going to be a lot of really miffed fans, like the STH who bought early.  Like me (with my pop's ST).

I have a better idea, why not subdivide all the poor-selling sections into upper/lower and drop the price of the upper (leave the lower seats price as-is).  For instance, section 229 you make above row 15 half price (or whatever).  Anyone who bought upper seats already gets refunded the difference.  Most of the more expensive sections have most of their seats sold in the lower areas.

Even for normal Bomber games I always thought it really dumb the gold-colored nose-bleed 4(ish) rows (like row 25+) are the same price as row 9.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on July 07, 2019, 12:29:29 PM
wow, so I assume that would include swapping out the turf and moving the goal post then... that won't be cheap!  I know that we, our city, was told that to replace our field's turf down the road that it would be about $500K - $600K...

that sounds like a lot but when you consider the cost to sod a field initially, and then the maintenance of the field for items such as replacement sod, fertilizer, weed and insect protection, water, marking supplies, cutting equipment, and labor cost to do all of the above that a turf field is actually cheaper to have than a natural grass field due to the life of a turf field.  the also claim that a turf field is safer to play on and fewer injuries occur.

No need to swap out the turf...paint the lines and move the goalposts.  They convert the lines from football to soccer and back


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on July 07, 2019, 03:12:23 PM
No need to swap out the turf...paint the lines and move the goalposts.  They convert the lines from football to soccer and back

then that turf must be something different than what we installed as our field markings are not painted on they are different colored material... I'm speaking to the hash marks, yard line indicators and boundary lines... as well as our mid field team logo and end zones which have our team name in each.

painting over them and then trying to restore them afterwards would be a nightmare, at best, and an impossibility at worse when thinking about what the field would look like once done...  I'm sure there are probably water borne paint that may create less of an issue though, admittedly I am not a turf designer or installer...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on July 07, 2019, 04:38:39 PM
then that turf must be something different than what we installed as our field markings are not painted on they are different colored material... I'm speaking to the hash marks, yard line indicators and boundary lines... as well as our mid field team logo and end zones which have our team name in each.

painting over them and then trying to restore them afterwards would be a nightmare, at best, and an impossibility at worse when thinking about what the field would look like once done...  I'm sure there are probably water borne paint that may create less of an issue though, admittedly I am not a turf designer or installer...

IG Field was designed to be multisport, not dedicated just to the football team.  The field is greem, 100%. All the markings are painted on, as it it was a grass field.  They can switch from CFL to soccer, to NFL...

They are having to add in NFL goal post moorings, which is an easy fix.  Now, getting NFL goalposts, that might cast a little...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on July 07, 2019, 06:24:14 PM
IG Field was designed to be multisport, not dedicated just to the football team.  The field is greem, 100%. All the markings are painted on, as it it was a grass field.  They can switch from CFL to soccer, to NFL...

They are having to add in NFL goal post moorings, which is an easy fix.  Now, getting NFL goalposts, that might cast a little...

that's cool then, our school doesn't offer soccer so it's a non issue for us... other schools that do have both sports have merely added both the football and soccer field markings required on the field making it interchangeable by just adding the soccer goals...

generally, small schools like ours don't have much interest in soccer and the bigger schools that due have separate fields generally... we are the 5th largest class of high schools out a possible of 6 size classification in terms of enrollment... we maintain about a 125 kid average per grade level...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on July 07, 2019, 08:25:55 PM
Saw on twitter that only 6000 tickets have been sold...discounts coming up..

I just did an estimate I have between 12000-13000 seats sold, not including the boxes. Not that that is good, but it's different that 6000.

I won't be surprised if they offer 2 for 1 on the lower bowl and give corporate the rest.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on July 07, 2019, 08:38:24 PM
My wild guess regarding the ticket pricing is this: The NFL figures that they would make $X million US in ticket sales if the game was in Oakland so they're still trying to meet that goal despite 1) the fact that the capacity at IGF is about half and 2) the weak Canadian dollar.

And I agree that pretty soon we'll be seeing deals like "buy a Big Mac and get two free tickets".


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on July 07, 2019, 08:48:02 PM
Well, if they do drop the prices and don't refund the difference to people who already bought tickets, there's going to be a lot of really miffed fans, like the STH who bought early.  Like me (with my pop's ST)


Well, that definitely won't happen.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: peg_city on July 07, 2019, 09:04:10 PM
Well, that definitely won't happen.

For people who bought tickets, it feels like the carnival is in town and it is trying swindle as many people as possible before they leave town, never to return.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: buckzumhoff on July 07, 2019, 11:48:59 PM
Tickets are goingvto be more expensive. Its the NFL. I dont think tickets should be higher than 200 but.  People pay 200 to go watch the Jets. And they play 40 home games. 3-4 grand a year per seat . I still might go . surprised they havent sold more. It will be an event. More than just a pre season game in my opinion.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 08, 2019, 05:57:05 AM
What happens if they declare they didn't sell enough tickets and just cancel the game?  Do ticket holders get a refund then?  Or is that what the "ticket insurance" TM is always pushing is for?  Boy, I'd be really miffed if the cancelled and I just lose the $X00 I spent on tix for pop & I.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on July 08, 2019, 01:57:51 PM
What happens if they declare they didn't sell enough tickets and just cancel the game?  Do ticket holders get a refund then?  Or is that what the "ticket insurance" TM is always pushing is for?  Boy, I'd be really miffed if the cancelled and I just lose the $X00 I spent on tix for pop & I.


If they cancel the event the money would be refunded. Ticket insurance is for if you can't make the event for a bunch of specified reasons, (illness, plane delays, etc.) you'll be reimbursed for the price of your tickets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on July 08, 2019, 07:00:42 PM
Saw on twitter that only 6000 tickets have been sold...discounts coming up..

Is the discount part speculation or part of the tweet?


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on July 08, 2019, 07:04:47 PM
Well, if they do drop the prices and don't refund the difference to people who already bought tickets, there's going to be a lot of really miffed fans, like the STH who bought early.  Like me (with my pop's ST).

I have a better idea, why not subdivide all the poor-selling sections into upper/lower and drop the price of the upper (leave the lower seats price as-is).  For instance, section 229 you make above row 15 half price (or whatever).  Anyone who bought upper seats already gets refunded the difference.  Most of the more expensive sections have most of their seats sold in the lower areas.

Even for normal Bomber games I always thought it really dumb the gold-colored nose-bleed 4(ish) rows (like row 25+) are the same price as row 9.


You must have been looking earlier when the Club seats weren't yet listed. Look again, almost all sections are not near to sold out: https://www1.ticketmaster.ca/event/110056BCE5604DAF


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: The Zipp on July 08, 2019, 11:41:09 PM
Is the discount part speculation or part of the tweet?

That was just speculation


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on August 23, 2019, 02:44:09 PM
I think it has a good chance. It will draw in a lot of locals that drool over anything that is NFL, and the low Canadian dollar could possibly attract some fans from the northern US.

Maybe it's time to review this.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to possibly host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on August 23, 2019, 02:48:09 PM
Im absolutely stoked to see this in Winnipeg. I went to Green Bay to see them play once and it was unreal. The NFL experience is like no other.. at least in that market anyways. This time we;ll be able to tailgate with our packers stuff on. This game is goin to sell out so fast. Id assume they would get the temp seats in both ends too. There is no way they are not selling this out fast.

 ::)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on August 23, 2019, 02:50:02 PM
I wonder is Sask saw the ticket prices and thought, "Forget it." Even if we are making a profit it will be bad publicity if this is not a wild success."

Well, I probably wasn't out to lunch on this!


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: bwiser on August 23, 2019, 03:00:51 PM
Wow am I ever glad I didn't go to the game last night.I would have felt totally ripped off.None of the teams stars played and that 80 yard field was ridiculous.The CFL was the big winner last night when you can see first hand how the NFL is somewhat over rated


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on August 23, 2019, 03:09:44 PM
Maybe it's time to review this.

Donny C puts on his hindsight is 20/20 glasses...  ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on August 23, 2019, 03:16:00 PM
I think everyone was stoked about it, until we heard the ticket prices, and then the likelihood anyone of import would play...

My Twitter campaign...

On Ice Entertainment was the promoter.  Every comment or story on this event should include the line "On Ice Entertainment was 100% responsible for this event, and should get full credit for it." On Ice Entertainment approved the field, set the pricing.  #BlameOnIceEntertainment


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on August 23, 2019, 03:17:46 PM
Donny C puts on his hindsight is 20/20 glasses...  ;)

Actually, not at all! Check out my other posts.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Stretch on August 23, 2019, 03:20:27 PM
Actually, not at all! Check out my other posts.

I was making light of your "told ya so" themed post. Chill man.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on August 23, 2019, 03:23:18 PM
I was making light of your "told ya so" themed post. Chill man.

I'm pretty chill right now...I know tone doesn't come through on social.

I am glad that I was displeased at how they handled the pre-sale, otherwise, I would have dished out the $400+ and been very disappointed.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: DM83 on August 23, 2019, 03:37:35 PM
Agreed with those who condemn the promoter.. What  a sideshow hunter.  No ore- game media availability, no team promotion. The NFL should ban this guy. An awful production. For the NFL.....part of the NFL games are the social activities, of which there were virtually none. The NFL experience it was not!

No pre-'game practices.the goal post fiasco, no NFL experience section, left a lot to be desired.  The NFL should sue these promoters for incomplete packaging, false advertising and misrepresentation.

The scoreboard and the announcer were a breath of fresh air.,professional.
The NFL game itself was boring.  The two offensive co-ordinators have been ingrained with 1950s style offence. Someone should tell them the forward pass is legal.

Defenses were noticeably faster than CFL it seemed.  Players flying to the ball.
 Different type of crowd, no idiots.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blue_or_die on August 23, 2019, 03:56:02 PM
I am glad that the Bombers weren't on the hook and were the only ones to come away with a little money. That will look good on the balance sheet in April, especially with no other non-Bomber (or Valour) events like concerts scheduled this summer.

With that said, it is interesting to wonder how it would have gone down if the Bombers were in charge. They would have known the market, and even if they literally did a carbon copy of ticket prices for a CFL regular game (or even playoff game), guaranteed the stadium sells out and everyone is happy. They could have offered to partner with the Raiders to host a tailgate event, and could have married the CFL into the theme more too. It wouldn't have made NFL money, but it would have made a hell of a lot more than what they probably did overall.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: Donny C on August 23, 2019, 05:08:11 PM
I am glad that the Bombers weren't on the hook and were the only ones to come away with a little money. That will look good on the balance sheet in April, especially with no other non-Bomber (or Valour) events like concerts scheduled this summer.

With that said, it is interesting to wonder how it would have gone down if the Bombers were in charge. They would have known the market, and even if they literally did a carbon copy of ticket prices for a CFL regular game (or even playoff game), guaranteed the stadium sells out and everyone is happy. They could have offered to partner with the Raiders to host a tailgate event, and could have married the CFL into the theme more too. It wouldn't have made NFL money, but it would have made a hell of a lot more than what they probably did overall.

Which is why it never happened.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: 66 Chevelle on August 23, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
I am glad that the Bombers weren't on the hook and were the only ones to come away with a little money. That will look good on the balance sheet in April, especially with no other non-Bomber (or Valour) events like concerts scheduled this summer.

With that said, it is interesting to wonder how it would have gone down if the Bombers were in charge. They would have known the market, and even if they literally did a carbon copy of ticket prices for a CFL regular game (or even playoff game), guaranteed the stadium sells out and everyone is happy. They could have offered to partner with the Raiders to host a tailgate event, and could have married the CFL into the theme more too. It wouldn't have made NFL money, but it would have made a hell of a lot more than what they probably did overall.

oh I'm sure that the NFL made money, otherwise there wouldn't have been a promoter... they made their money when the promoter signed on to take the game... there may have been a small revenue share on tickets sold but by then the NFL was fishing in a barrel...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: theaardvark on August 23, 2019, 06:28:15 PM
Which is why it never happened.

Can we pretend it didn't happen here either?

oh I'm sure that the NFL made money, otherwise there wouldn't have been a promoter... they made their money when the promoter signed on to take the game... there may have been a small revenue share on tickets sold but by then the NFL was fishing in a barrel...


Promoter probably lost their shirts... if the NFL or WFC get any of the money they are owed... wouldn't be the first time a promoter took the money and ran...


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: blueandgoldguy on August 24, 2019, 03:15:47 AM
Can we pretend it didn't happen here either?

Promoter probably lost their shirts... if the NFL or WFC get any of the money they are owed... wouldn't be the first time a promoter took the money and ran...

Of course.  That would depend on when the Bombers were paid.  I would hope they would have been paid all or a substantial portion of the rental fee for this game beforehand.


Title: Re: Winnipeg to host an NFL preseason game
Post by: pjrocksmb on August 24, 2019, 03:40:18 AM
No Fun League takes the cake for all hype and no delivery.  A fail in every way possible.  O wait half of us went free.  LOL