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Title: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2019, 10:37:15 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2019/02/21/going-two-cfl-awards-2020-2021-grey-cups/ (https://www.cfl.ca/2019/02/21/going-two-cfl-awards-2020-2021-grey-cups/)

2020 - Regina
2021 - Hamilton


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Ridermania on February 21, 2019, 10:38:37 PM
Can't wait!!!


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 21, 2019, 10:49:56 PM
Can't wait!!!

Yup the Riders are all in for next year. Never mind the salary Cap like in 2013! ;)


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Ridermania on February 21, 2019, 10:50:25 PM
The 107th Grey Cup game will be played November 24, 2019 at McMahon Stadium in Calgary, Alberta.

The 108th Grey Cup game will be played Sunday, November 22, 2020 at Mosaic Stadium in Regina, Saskatchewan.

The 109th Grey Cup will be played at Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton, Ontario on November 21, 2021.

The Grey Cup, traditionally played on the last Sunday in November, will be played on the second-last Sunday in November starting in 2020, the result of the CFL moving its season up.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Fire101 on February 21, 2019, 11:21:55 PM
The 107th Grey Cup game will be played November 24, 2019 at McMahon Stadium in Calgary, Alberta.

The 108th Grey Cup game will be played Sunday, November 22, 2020 at Mosaic Stadium in Regina, Saskatchewan.

The 109th Grey Cup will be played at Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton, Ontario on November 21, 2021.

The Grey Cup, traditionally played on the last Sunday in November, will be played on the second-last Sunday in November starting in 2020, the result of the CFL moving its season up.


I like the move by the CFL starting earlier (2020). Better weather, better chance for bigger gates, and better games (players not sliding around and having footwear issues).


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: trapper on February 21, 2019, 11:25:08 PM
Yup the Riders are all in for next year. Never mind the salary Cap like in 2013! ;)

Best $17,975 ever spent:)

And there is no salary cap in the CFL.



Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: trapper on February 21, 2019, 11:26:27 PM
I was kinda hoping 2020 would go to Hamilton with 2021 going to Riders.

Too many in a row in the West IMO.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: RebusRankin on February 21, 2019, 11:32:47 PM
Nice to see Hamilton get to host for the first time since 1996. I know the Rider fans are going to dump on my for saying this but Regina shouldn't get to host for awhile. The city lacks the hotels required and other infrastructure.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue girl on February 21, 2019, 11:34:26 PM
I was kinda hoping 2020 would go to Hamilton with 2021 going to Riders.

Too many in a row in the West IMO.
I agree with you but apparently Saskatchewan had the better bid.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: trapper on February 22, 2019, 02:24:55 AM
Nice to see Hamilton get to host for the first time since 1996. I know the Rider fans are going to dump on my for saying this but Regina shouldn't get to host for awhile. The city lacks the hotels required and other infrastructure.

It will be very different than last time.  First, there is an additional 1,000 new hotel rooms in Regina compared to 2013.  I think that will be sufficient.  Uber and Lyft is here now too...so that will alleviate some of the transportation issues.  Also new, besides the stadium of course, is the International Trade Centre to complete the Evraz Eventplex.  All football events will be within walking of the stadium.  That will allow for even better parties before/after game...not to mention every team party room being withing the same monster complex with no need to go outside.

Check it out...that is going to be ALL GREY CUP everywhere on that map! https://www.evrazplace.com/facilities/interactive-facilities-map





Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 22, 2019, 06:20:03 AM
2020 - Regina
2021 - Hamilton

I'm really happy for both cities/clubs.  If you build a new stadium, you deserve a GC within 5 years.  That's sort of the unwritten rule.  Gives clubs an incentive to build new digs (hello, CGY, I'm looking at you!).

I hope I have to fly to CGY, SSK, HAM in that order to watch my Bombers fight in the next GC's!  Oh, to beat out SSK in a '20 WF to play the GC in Regina... pure gold that will be.  Even better if we are in the GC against MTL...


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: bluebeard on February 22, 2019, 03:38:26 PM
It will be very different than last time.  First, there is an additional 1,000 new hotel rooms in Regina compared to 2013.  I think that will be sufficient.  Uber and Lyft is here now too...so that will alleviate some of the transportation issues.  Also new, besides the stadium of course, is the International Trade Centre to complete the Evraz Eventplex.  All football events will be within walking of the stadium.  That will allow for even better parties before/after game...not to mention every team party room being withing the same monster complex with no need to go outside.

Check it out...that is going to be ALL GREY CUP everywhere on that map! https://www.evrazplace.com/facilities/interactive-facilities-map




You forgot to mention the Pasqua Hospital which is situated immediately to the north of the Trade Center for those that indulge too much. ::)


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 22, 2019, 03:44:39 PM
I'm really happy for both cities/clubs.  If you build a new stadium, you deserve a GC within 5 years.  That's sort of the unwritten rule.  Gives clubs an incentive to build new digs (hello, CGY, I'm looking at you!).

Agreed on the five-year thing. But Calgary is hosting this year, so I'm not sure if it's really incentive. Although, this could be the last time it hosts a championship game at McMahon Stadium... Or it should be, anyway.

Uber and Lyft is here now too...

Which is awesome. I still can't believe Winnipeg has neither. What a joke.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Ridermania on February 22, 2019, 04:10:52 PM
Don't blame Walters for lack of Uber or Lyft in Winnipeg!


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 22, 2019, 04:28:14 PM
Don't blame Walters for lack of Uber or Lyft in Winnipeg!

What? ???


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: trapper on February 22, 2019, 04:29:54 PM
Which is awesome. I still can't believe Winnipeg has neither. What a joke.

Lead the country in DUIs and something had to be done...


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_or_die on February 22, 2019, 04:30:49 PM
Agreed on the five-year thing. But Calgary is hosting this year, so I'm not sure if it's really incentive. Although, this could be the last time it hosts a championship game at McMahon Stadium... Or it should be, anyway.

Which is awesome. I still can't believe Winnipeg has neither. What a joke.

While we don't have Uber or Lyft, we have and have had ridesharing in Winnipeg since last March. I use TappCar all the time. As someone who used to live in a city that has had Uber since it first became a thing, I can say that it's almost the same. Service (i.e. wait times) aren't quite as good, but I would attribute that to the small size of the city compared to big urban areas that have piles and piles of drivers.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 22, 2019, 04:37:07 PM
While we don't have Uber or Lyft, we have and have had ridesharing in Winnipeg since last March. I use TappCar all the time. As someone who used to live in a city that has had Uber since it first became a thing, I can say that it's almost the same. Service (i.e. wait times) aren't quite as good, but I would attribute that to the small size of the city compared to big urban areas that have piles and piles of drivers.

I've used TappCar a handful of times and the wait times were brutal every time. I used Uber in Ottawa back in 2017 and it was punctual on every occasion. I'm not sure how much size plays a role but Ottawa isn't much bigger than Winnipeg.

In any case, the ridesharing thing is nice but it's been handcuffed in Winnipeg and that's really disappointing. Especially when you consider smaller cities (Regina, Saskatoon) are better off in that regard.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Colton on February 22, 2019, 04:45:32 PM
I've used TappCar a handful of times and the wait times were brutal every time. I used Uber in Ottawa back in 2017 and it was punctual on every occasion. I'm not sure how much size plays a role but Ottawa isn't much bigger than Winnipeg.

In any case, the ridesharing thing is nice but it's been handcuffed in Winnipeg and that's really disappointing. Especially when you consider smaller cities (Regina, Saskatoon) are better off in that regard.

I've had a much better experience with TappCar than I have with Uber. Haven't had a wait time over 5 minutes either.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_or_die on February 22, 2019, 08:00:27 PM
I've used TappCar a handful of times and the wait times were brutal every time. I used Uber in Ottawa back in 2017 and it was punctual on every occasion. I'm not sure how much size plays a role but Ottawa isn't much bigger than Winnipeg.

In any case, the ridesharing thing is nice but it's been handcuffed in Winnipeg and that's really disappointing. Especially when you consider smaller cities (Regina, Saskatoon) are better off in that regard.

Having more options is definitely preferred and I'm not a fan of how MPI got to essentially kybosh Uber and Lyft. In any case, it sounds like your experiences with Tapp may have been bad luck. Sometimes availability just isn't there (as Colton alluded to). It's probably not as mature as Uber in Ottawa. It takes a while for the culture to develop in the city, creating demand for more drivers.

It remains to be seen how smaller cities like Regina and Saskatoon adopt ridesharing and how good the service is. I believe it has only been legal there for a few weeks. Have they officially launched, even?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/uber-lyft-saskatoon-taxi-1.4949784 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/uber-lyft-saskatoon-taxi-1.4949784) (last several paragraphs)

https://regina.ctvnews.ca/ridesharing-could-be-coming-to-regina-early-next-year-1.4222936 (https://regina.ctvnews.ca/ridesharing-could-be-coming-to-regina-early-next-year-1.4222936)


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: bluengold204 on February 22, 2019, 08:33:51 PM
I've used TappCar a handful of times and the wait times were brutal every time. I used Uber in Ottawa back in 2017 and it was punctual on every occasion. I'm not sure how much size plays a role but Ottawa isn't much bigger than Winnipeg.

In any case, the ridesharing thing is nice but it's been handcuffed in Winnipeg and that's really disappointing. Especially when you consider smaller cities (Regina, Saskatoon) are better off in that regard.

I've used TappCar a bunch of times too and found in my experience that it depends where in the city you are getting picked up at.  Downtown the wait times were minimum for me, however getting a car in transcona where I live the wait times seemed longer.  I'm assuming because more drivers are circulating downtown than on the edges of the city.

What I don't like are the extra fees associated with TappCar ($3 tech fee, demand surcharge) can't remember if Uber had these but that is what turns me off from TappCar vs ordering a regular cab anyways.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Colton on February 22, 2019, 09:13:46 PM
I've used TappCar a handful of times and the wait times were brutal every time. I used Uber in Ottawa back in 2017 and it was punctual on every occasion. I'm not sure how much size plays a role but Ottawa isn't much bigger than Winnipeg.

In any case, the ridesharing thing is nice but it's been handcuffed in Winnipeg and that's really disappointing. Especially when you consider smaller cities (Regina, Saskatoon) are better off in that regard.

Just out of curiosity, what areas of Ottawa where you using Uber? Where you typically in and around the airport/downtown equivalent areas? I feel like some people go to bigger cities and use Uber/Lyft in downtown/heavily populated areas, and then come home and are disappointed that TappCar doesn't have the same wait times in suburban areas.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_or_die on February 22, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
Just out of curiosity, what areas of Ottawa where you using Uber? Where you typically in and around the airport/downtown equivalent areas? I feel like some people go to bigger cities and use Uber/Lyft in downtown/heavily populated areas, and then come home and are disappointed that TappCar doesn't have the same wait times in suburban areas.

Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at with the supply and demand comments. When you travel, you usually hang out in the cool areas of a big city which are often downtown or heavily populated. Going to be easier to get one there than deep Tcona lol


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Colton on February 22, 2019, 09:39:59 PM
I've used TappCar a bunch of times too and found in my experience that it depends where in the city you are getting picked up at.  Downtown the wait times were minimum for me, however getting a car in transcona where I live the wait times seemed longer.  I'm assuming because more drivers are circulating downtown than on the edges of the city.

What I don't like are the extra fees associated with TappCar ($3 tech fee, demand surcharge) can't remember if Uber had these but that is what turns me off from TappCar vs ordering a regular cab anyways.

Uber is definitely still charging you those fees, it's just less transparent in my opinion. Grabbing three random trips from each I've taken recently:

Uber:
13:42 trip time, 3.86 miles, $13.76USD
9:37 trip time, 1.27 miles, $8.14USD
13:52 trip time, 3.69 kilometers, $14.48CAD

TappCar:
10:00 trip time, 1.60 kilometers, $6.43CAD
14:00 trip time, 2.60 kilometers, $9.10CAD
32:00 trip time, 8.20 kilometers, $17.17CAD


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 22, 2019, 09:45:25 PM
Just out of curiosity, what areas of Ottawa where you using Uber? Where you typically in and around the airport/downtown equivalent areas? I feel like some people go to bigger cities and use Uber/Lyft in downtown/heavily populated areas, and then come home and are disappointed that TappCar doesn't have the same wait times in suburban areas.

I was staying in downtown Ottawa when I used Uber*. As for TappCar, I've attempted to use it where I live (NK/River East) and also downtown back in Winnipeg. The wait times were excessive in either case when compared to hailing a taxi.

Obviously, neither is a big sample and my experience is anecdotal at best. I found Uber to be more efficient, though. Both beat taking a crummy taxi.

* - I should note it was for the Grey Cup that year


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 22, 2019, 10:52:26 PM
I will go back to the crotch if the BB are in it. Sleep at someone?s sugar shack.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: Ridermania on February 23, 2019, 05:38:41 PM
I will have my little sugar shack outback all ready for you!


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: BBRT on February 23, 2019, 06:13:19 PM
I will have my little sugar shack outback all ready for you!

Went to the last Rider Grey cup and lucky enough to have a room reserved though one of my clients. Not so lucky this time. However I was thinking about Moose Jaw or maybe Weyburn. I have actually stayed in Weyburn before. Not all that long of a drive to Regina. Will try for a Regina hotel first, Moosejaw second and Weyburn third choice.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 23, 2019, 06:23:51 PM
Went to the last Rider Grey cup and lucky enough to have a room reserved though one of my clients. Not so lucky this time. However I was thinking about Moose Jaw or maybe Weyburn. I have actually stayed in Weyburn before. Not all that long of a drive to Regina. Will try for a Regina hotel first, Moosejaw second and Weyburn third choice.

weyburn? Sounds to much of an inconvenience to consider going.


Title: Re: 2020, 2021 Grey Cup host cities announced
Post by: BBRT on February 23, 2019, 07:05:16 PM
weyburn? Sounds to much of an inconvenience to consider going.
The last time I stayed at the Weyburn Inn (which is no longer there) I had the best Prime Rib I probably have ever had. In any event I am thinking Moosjaw (and normally stay at The Temple Gardens) will make sure I book well in advance.