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Title: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 10, 2019, 07:40:52 PM
To be unlocked on February 12th.

This thread is for player signings for other CFL teams.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 01:01:09 AM
The scoops are starting already...I guess the Esks can agree to let Reilly talk to other teams before free again you??

From Ryan Rishaug of TSN:

Final signature to come tomorrow, Mike Reilly will sign a 4 year deal at right around $700k  per season with the BC Lions.  Sources say Esks were willing to do 4x700k as well to match.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 12, 2019, 02:27:16 AM
There are a few threads with rumours and speculation about player signings.

Let's keep this thread dedicated to confirmed signings.  Thanks.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 10:47:11 AM
I guess we can consider Duron Carter as a Free Agent ???   Anyways he signed in BC


#BCLions have agreed to contract terms with @DC_CHILLIN_8. #CFL via @danralphcp


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 12, 2019, 11:07:32 AM
How the heII do the Lions have this much money to offer?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 11:42:07 AM
The league turns a blind eye to TO, and BC because they can fold at any minute.

It happens with all the Eastern teams. The Bombers need a private owner and to be on the verge of bankruptcy and this drought would be long over.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 11:46:12 AM
How the heII do the Lions have this much money to offer?


I think he counts as a cheap signing.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 12:27:43 PM
I guess we can consider Duron Carter as a Free Agent ???   Anyways he signed in BC


#BCLions have agreed to contract terms with @DC_CHILLIN_8. #CFL via @danralphcp


Lol. Naylor reporting that Carter did NOT have permission to negotiate early. I wonder what happens here? BC get a tampering fine?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 12:51:20 PM
Carter is a low price replacement for Arcineaux...  Manny Show to Winnipeg?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 12:52:53 PM
Makes you wonder.

Was Chris Jones always the rulebender he appeared to be, or did Hervey make him that way.

Back to the topic at hand, if Duron signed out of bounds, the contract should be nullified and BC should be blocked from re-signing him.

But that won't happen.  And I imagine tampering happens all the time, but Duron's got a big mouth, so there's that.

And yes, I would imagine he is a value signing, kind of why I suggested maybe the Bombers should sign him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 12:56:39 PM
Lol. Naylor reporting that Carter did NOT have permission to negotiate early. I wonder what happens here? BC get a tampering fine?

League won't follow up


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 01:38:13 PM
I guess we can consider Duron Carter as a Free Agent ???   Anyways he signed in BC


#BCLions have agreed to contract terms with @DC_CHILLIN_8. #CFL via @danralphcp


Very surprised Claybrooks would add baby-sitting Carter to his list of tasks in his first H.C. year, I thought he was somewhat smarter than that.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
Watching BC implode with a rookie head coach and high priced players will be fun. 

Off season boom and regular season fizzle is what it is looking like. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 02:19:20 PM
how can they have signed Carter prior to 11 today though?...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 02:20:30 PM
how can they have signed Carter prior to 11 today though?...

He may have had permission to talk to other teams. However, Hervey is not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to tampering either.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 02:32:58 PM
Carter is a low price replacement for Arcineaux...  Manny Show to Winnipeg?

Ugh, no.

Ed Hervey is a clown.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 02:36:15 PM
Eric Rogers re-ups in Cowtown through 2020.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Norm W on February 12, 2019, 02:38:07 PM
Manny is a hard no for me, his best days a long behind him. Moving on to other topics... With Mike R landing in BC with big dough do the Eskies go after Bo with the money they planned on offering Mike R to stay? or do they go big for Harris now?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
Manny is a hard no for me, his best days a long behind him. Moving on to other topics... With Mike R landing in BC with big dough do the Eskies go after Bo with the money they planned on offering Mike R to stay? or do they go big for Harris now?

All of the Esks connections point to Harris, if the rumours are true he's done a 180 from his previous stance of staying in Ottawa.  The RB's better go after Jennings.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 03:08:47 PM
All of the Esks connections point to Harris, if the rumours are true he's done a 180 from his previous stance of staying in Ottawa.  The RB's better go after Jennings.

I think his 180 started a month or so ago when Sunderland sent a little birdie to go whisper sweet nothings in his ear.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 03:09:31 PM

CFL Headlines
@CFL_Headlines
REDBLACKS re-sign Mossis Madu Jr.: The Ottawa REDBLACKS have signed American running back Mossis Madu Jr. to a one-year contract extension, the club announced on Tuesday. http://dlvr.it/Qykspc  via @REDBLACKS #RNation

Why are the RB's signing Madu when Powell is a pending F.A.?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 03:12:25 PM
CFL Headlines
@CFL_Headlines
REDBLACKS re-sign Mossis Madu Jr.: The Ottawa REDBLACKS have signed American running back Mossis Madu Jr. to a one-year contract extension, the club announced on Tuesday. http://dlvr.it/Qykspc  via @REDBLACKS #RNation

Why are the RB's signing Madu when Powell is a pending F.A.?
Could be moving on


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 03:32:26 PM
value signing to probably try and have $$ to retain Harris...or go after BLM


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 03:34:29 PM
CFL Headlines
@CFL_Headlines
REDBLACKS re-sign Mossis Madu Jr.: The Ottawa REDBLACKS have signed American running back Mossis Madu Jr. to a one-year contract extension, the club announced on Tuesday. http://dlvr.it/Qykspc  via @REDBLACKS #RNation

Why are the RB's signing Madu when Powell is a pending F.A.?

Your last sentence is both a question and the answer to your question.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 04:44:18 PM
Larry Dean goes to Edmonton.



Justin Dunk

@JDunk12

LB Larry Dean agrees to terms with #Eskimos (link: https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/lb-larry-dean-agrees-to-terms-with-eskimos/) 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/lb-? #Edmonton #CFLEsks #HamOnt #Ticats #CFL



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 04:44:32 PM
Larry Dean signs with Edmonton as per Dunk


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 04:47:19 PM
@JDunk12
#Riders agrees to terms on a two-year contract with RB William Powell https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/riders-agrees-to-terms-with-rb-william-powell/ ? #Saskatchewan #YQR #Riderville #Ottawa #Redblacks #RNation #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 04:47:28 PM
From herb zurkowsky:

I?m told #AlsMTL have signed Canadian OL Spencer Wilson from Calgary


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: thunderNlightning on February 12, 2019, 04:48:24 PM
Everyone signing in the west. Going to be a very tough division this season to come out on top of. The poor east keeps looking weak!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 04:49:35 PM
@JDunk12
#Riders agrees to terms on a two-year contract with RB William Powell https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/riders-agrees-to-terms-with-rb-william-powell/ ? #Saskatchewan #YQR #Riderville #Ottawa #Redblacks #RNation #CFL


With no QB ya need a good ground game :)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 04:50:09 PM
With no QB ya need a good ground game :)

Just what the Riders need, another running back! At least this one is a CFL guy.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 04:51:02 PM
#AlsMTL have signed FB Christophe Normand according to @joeyalfieri. #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 12, 2019, 04:51:08 PM
CFL Headlines
‏ @CFL_Headlines
2m2 minutes ago

Mike Reilly Returns To The Lions Den!: The BC Lions Football Club is very pleased to announce that free agent quarterback Mike Reilly has signed a four-year, $2.9 million contract with the team. ?This is a historic day for our? http://dlvr.it/QylH2T  via @BCLions #BCLions


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 04:52:16 PM
CFL Headlines
‏ @CFL_Headlines
2m2 minutes ago

Mike Reilly Returns To The Lions Den!: The BC Lions Football Club is very pleased to announce that free agent quarterback Mike Reilly has signed a four-year, $2.9 million contract with the team. ?This is a historic day for our? http://dlvr.it/QylH2T  via @BCLions #BCLions

A crazy contract.

Even with Chungh he will be running for his life.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 04:52:28 PM
Since the other thread just got closed, in regards to going over the salary cap I believe the first 100K over it's not too bad in a matching dollar for dollar fine. Over 100K then you start losing draft picks + higher fines. Can't seem to find any references online to this information offhand for exact details.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 04:53:27 PM
Just what the Riders need, another running back! At least this one is a CFL guy.

Definitely not a vacant position...but the Riders running game never scared anyone last year....even with a few big plays it was far from consistent.  Always liked Powell...

But no QB...maybe Collaros comes back.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 04:53:31 PM
@FarhanLaljiTSN
Hearing a 1 year deal for Larry Dean at 210k with # Eskimos. Original signing first reported by @JDunk12 @cfl #CFLFA @CFLonTSN


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
CFL Headlines
‏ @CFL_Headlines
2m2 minutes ago

Mike Reilly Returns To The Lions Den!: The BC Lions Football Club is very pleased to announce that free agent quarterback Mike Reilly has signed a four-year, $2.9 million contract with the team. ?This is a historic day for our? http://dlvr.it/QylH2T  via @BCLions #BCLions

That comes out to 725,000 per year! What's Ed Hervey smoking on the left coast?! ;)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 04:54:52 PM
Since the other thread just got closed, in regards to going over the salary cap I believe the first 100K over it's not too bad in a matching dollar for dollar fine. Over 100K then you start losing draft picks + higher fines. Can't seem to find any references online to this information offhand for exact details.

1 for 1 to 100K
2 for 1 to 200k (and a draft pick)
3 for 1 to 300K (and 2 draft picks)

Not sure how it goes from there.

But I agree...up to $100K is a simple business decision....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jets on February 12, 2019, 04:55:38 PM
1 for 1 to 100K
2 for 1 to 200k (and a draft pick)
3 for 1 to 300K (and 2 draft picks)

Not sure how it goes from there.

But I agree...up to $100K is a simple business decision....

Pretty sure that's it. Every dollar 300k plus is just $3:1


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Freebird on February 12, 2019, 04:55:53 PM
David William Naylor
‏Verified account
@TSNDaveNaylor
 4m4 minutes ago
More
Confirming former @REDBLACKS RB William Powell has signed with @sskroughriders #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
A crazy contract.

Even with Chungh he will be running for his life.
Reilly is durable but he's not invincible either.   The year they traded Nichols to Wpg. he missed the first 7 games due to injury.   He came back though to lead the Esks to a GC and was the MVP in that game!   Signing Chungh will help their O-Line


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 04:59:02 PM
@FarhanLaljiTSN
Hearing a 1 year deal for Larry Dean at 210k with # Eskimos. Original signing first reported by @JDunk12 @cfl #CFLFA @CFLonTSN

Farhan always has the contract numbers for other team's signings.

Never seems to include his BC Lions numbers


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 05:00:07 PM
1 for 1 to 100K
2 for 1 to 200k (and a draft pick)
3 for 1 to 300K (and 2 draft picks)

Not sure how it goes from there.

But I agree...up to $100K is a simple business decision....

Would those draft picks be the team's first rounders? In the over 300K case their following two season's first round picks?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 05:00:21 PM
The $100k just dollar for dollar fine is only 2% of budget... usually kept in reserve in case of calculation errors / disputes.

Even $300k with loss of DPs is only 6%...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 05:00:55 PM
Edmonton signs SirVincet Rogers


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 05:03:25 PM
Edmonton signs SirVincet Rogers
Gotta think that might help the push for Harris


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 05:03:45 PM
@JDunk12
#Eskimos agree to terms with big blocker SirVincent Rogers on a contract to make him the highest paid American OL in the #CFL https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/eskimos-agree-to-terms-with-ol-sirvincet-rogers/ ? #Edmonton #CFLEsks #Ottawa #Redblacks #RNation #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 05:05:24 PM
Gotta think that might help the push for Harris

I'm pretty sure Harris and Ellingson will just sign together.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:06:03 PM
I'm pretty sure Harris and Ellingson will just sign together.

I think so too - in Edmonton


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 05:06:08 PM
Gotta think that might help the push for Harris

Highest paid Import OL in the league though?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 05:09:31 PM
Highest paid Import OL in the league though?

What's the matter with that? He's right there with Bryant in talent. And obviously the guy who signs last gets the bigger contract.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 05:10:21 PM
What's the matter with that? He's right there with Bryant in talent. And obviously the guy who signs last gets the bigger contract.

Fair.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 05:11:01 PM
What's the matter with that? He's right there with Bryant in talent. And obviously the guy who signs last gets the bigger contract.
This. Rogers has fallen off a lil but I mean I'm sure there isn't too big of a difference


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 05:11:06 PM
For SirVincent signing in EDM, does that pave the way for Ellingson and Harris?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 05:13:23 PM
For SirVincent signing in EDM, does that pave the way for Ellingson and Harris?

They might be trying to corner the knights talent pool. SirGalahad is their next signing! :D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 05:15:42 PM
For SirVincent signing in EDM, does that pave the way for Ellingson and Harris?

Absolutely.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:17:05 PM
The #BCLions have agreed to terms with OL Sukh Chungh.........via @FarhanLaljiTSN and as was speculated earlier in the day by @TSNRyanRishaug. #CFL

 :(

Good luck to him!!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Freebird on February 12, 2019, 05:18:27 PM
Hamilton resign DE Adrian Tracy and WR Mike Jones


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 05:20:21 PM
The #BCLions have agreed to terms with OL Sukh Chungh.........via @FarhanLaljiTSN and as was speculated earlier in the day by @TSNRyanRishaug. #CFL

 :(

Good luck to him!!
Ouch. But good for him. Hopefully Neufeld, Couture and Gray can hold up


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: thunderNlightning on February 12, 2019, 05:21:25 PM
The #BCLions have agreed to terms with OL Sukh Chungh.........via @FarhanLaljiTSN and as was speculated earlier in the day by @TSNRyanRishaug. #CFL

 :(

Good luck to him!!

2 signings that average close to a million on the cap per season...thats nuts


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Darwinismyhomeboy on February 12, 2019, 05:22:03 PM
The #BCLions have agreed to terms with OL Sukh Chungh.........via @FarhanLaljiTSN and as was speculated earlier in the day by @TSNRyanRishaug. #CFL

 :(

Good luck to him!!

****


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 05:22:39 PM
2 signings that average close to a million on the cap per season...thats nuts
How much is Chungh making?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 05:24:15 PM
Ouch. But good for him. Hopefully Neufeld, Couture and Gray can hold up

Luckily for us Forde says this upcoming draft has the best OL class in the past few years, and we have two 1st round picks.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 05:26:43 PM
Luckily for us Forde says this upcoming draft has the best OL class in the past few years, and we have two 1st round picks.
Yeah. Probably gonna do some research on the class this year


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:26:49 PM
.@TSNScianitti with another scoop. Vancouver-native WR Lemar Durant to be added to the #BCLions WR stable. #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
Luckily for us Forde says this upcoming draft has the best OL class in the past few years, and we have two 1st round picks.

Walters specifically mentioned receiver and DL in the draft.

It will be interesting to see where we go first.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 05:27:21 PM
Was Wally running the team on a $6000 budget and food stamps?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ducky on February 12, 2019, 05:28:21 PM
All the BC Boys going home?

Loffler next I imagine.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 05:29:41 PM
All the BC Boys going home?

Loffler next I imagine.
If they can afford him


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on February 12, 2019, 05:30:19 PM
If they can afford him

Doesn't seem like BC is minding the cap, so why not! lol.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 05:30:38 PM
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but how in the world can one team afford all this?
 
@jeffkhamilton

Was told last night the B.C. Lions were close to signing Duron Carter, just one of a number of big names the West coast is going after. They'll finalize something with Sukh Chungh today, while also going after Willie Jefferson, Micah Johnson and, gulp, potentially Derel Walker.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:31:17 PM
#Riders agree to terms with LB Dyshawn Davis on a one-year contract through the 2019 season 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/rid? #Saskatchewan #YQR #Riderville #BCLions #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:33:44 PM
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but how in the world can one team afford all this?
 
@jeffkhamilton

Was told last night the B.C. Lions were close to signing Duron Carter, just one of a number of big names the West coast is going after. They'll finalize something with Sukh Chungh today, while also going after Willie Jefferson, Micah Johnson and, gulp, potentially Derel Walker.

They have a bunch of free agents they aren't signing. They may go cheap at RB...they were also carrying Jennings and Lulay


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 05:41:59 PM
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but how in the world can one team afford all this?
 
@jeffkhamilton

Was told last night the B.C. Lions were close to signing Duron Carter, just one of a number of big names the West coast is going after. They'll finalize something with Sukh Chungh today, while also going after Willie Jefferson, Micah Johnson and, gulp, potentially Derel Walker.

Easy. The Lions will have zero depth.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2019, 05:46:53 PM
Just announced via Bob Irving online...

JSK & Ellingson to Esks


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 12, 2019, 05:47:31 PM

Farhan Lalji
‏Verified account @FarhanLaljiTSN

Both Greg Ellingson and Jovon Santos Knox have agreed to deals with #Eskimos


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2019, 05:50:13 PM
Farhan Lalji
‏Verified account @FarhanLaljiTSN

Both Greg Ellingson and Jovon Santos Knox have agreed to deals with #Eskimos


Rumour is Harris will follow Ellingson to Edm.

BB better shore up the D! We?re going to need a pass rush!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:50:40 PM
Larry dean and jovon santos Knox - pretty good duo


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 05:51:30 PM
Santos-Knox to the Eskies really stings.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 05:54:28 PM
Santos-Knox to the Eskies really stings.

Did JSK work out for EDM, or just tell them he is recovered and 100%? I'm guessing there isn't any guaranteed money, and he could get cut after TC if he isn't 100% what they think he is supposed to be.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 05:59:38 PM
Larry dean and jovon santos Knox - pretty good duo

Got a bit weaker - not a huge fan of unamba

Eskimos agree to terms with LB Don Unamba 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/esk? #CFL #Esks via @JDunk12


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on February 12, 2019, 06:00:21 PM
just saw a tweet saying Harris to Esks.

Man, West Division will be bestial again this year...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
Got a bit weaker - not a huge fan of unamba

Eskimos agree to terms with LB Don Unamba 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/esk? #CFL #Esks via @JDunk12

He'll be their SAM from the looks of it.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
QB Trevor Harris has agreed to join the #Esks. @FarhanLaljiTSN with the major scoop. #CFL


Boom!!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Duckman118 on February 12, 2019, 06:02:33 PM
Literally all of the players leaving Ottawa have stated that they'd love to stay in Ottawa, with sir Vincent even offering a hometown discount... Something's up with Desjardins


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
RedBlacks taking some big hits today. 

Get on the BLM train...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 06:03:22 PM
just saw a tweet saying Harris to Esks.

Man, West Division will be bestial again this year...

Or put another way, the east is toast and the top team will be lucky to get 8 or 9 wins. Just like 2016 & 2017.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 12, 2019, 06:03:54 PM
Wow, so potentially we have Reilly on the West coast, BLM, and Harriss in Alberta and ? in Sask with Nichols in the Peg....Can we go back to the East this year?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:06:11 PM
Ambrosie gotta be hoping BLM goes East. 

Jennings won't cut it..


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on February 12, 2019, 06:06:47 PM
Wow, so potentially we have Reilly on the West coast, BLM, and Harriss in Alberta and ? in Sask with Nichols in the Peg....Can we go back to the East this year?

Apparently the Riders are in the hunt for Bo Levi....  Is that enough to make you puke in your mouth a little?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 06:07:14 PM
Must be cool for Hamilton fans to know they've made the Grey Cup in February.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 06:07:20 PM
Man...another year of the East being the doormat...

BLM could end up in Regina yet... (although I am not a fan of the QB money going around).  Could be Calgary the team left out of veteran QBs.  Maybe they are tired of winning and feel they need a break ... lol


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 06:07:24 PM
Doesn't seem like BC is minding the cap, so why not! lol.

I wonder if Braley is even aware Hervey is spending his money, he might still be in a coma.  ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Freebird on February 12, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 06:11:58 PM
Well Walters wanted to build a team for the future....he just doesn't like paying for it.   


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 06:12:10 PM
I do not think the Riders are in the running for BLM at all, I think it is a ploy by his reps to drive up pressure on the other two, and for 3down to get more clicks (because of course 'Der fans will want to believe this 3down rumour while ignoring the rest).

I also think Ottawa may get in the mix. BLM did not rush to sign an NFL deal, he does not need to rush here.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 06:13:00 PM
Well Walters wanted to build a team for the future....he just doesn't like paying for it.   

Just stop.

You are going to have a stroke.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
I do not think the Riders are in the running for BLM at all, I think it is a ploy by his reps to drive up pressure on the other two, and for 3down to get more clicks (because of course 'Der fans will want to believe this 3down rumour while ignoring the rest).

I also think Ottawa may get in the mix. BLM did not rush to sign an NFL deal, he does not need to rush here.

I think if Chris Jones was still in sask BLM would have been signed there already


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 06:16:11 PM
Just stop.

You are going to have a stroke.
Oh I'm pretty calm....I wasn't expecting Walters to open up his check book.   


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:16:48 PM
This is true:


You have to give @BrockSundy alot of credit for how he has recovered from losing Reilly. Harris, Ellingson, Rogers, Dean, Knox, Unamba. Overall the #Eskimos are a better team than they were 24 hours ago. @cfl #CFLFA


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 06:17:03 PM
I think if Chris Jones was still in sask BLM would have been signed there already

I think BLM would have to be pretty desperate to play for that clown!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2019, 06:17:54 PM
Man we are getting killed this year in FA. Don't we have cap space to burn?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
Man we are getting killed this year in FA. Don't we have cap space to burn?
i concur....yet I've been told to calm down and stop for fear of having a stroke.   Simple observation would conclude that we are being passed over by all the top players and then we are losing Canadian and US all star players....but we are stable!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 06:23:25 PM
Man we are getting killed this year in FA. Don't we have cap space to burn?


Actually Ottawa is getting clobbered the most. They lost their 4 most significant free agents. Kevin Glenn back to Ottawa whom he never played a down for even though they took him in the expansion draft?! ;)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 06:24:15 PM
i concur....yet I've been told to calm down and stop for fear of having a stroke.   Simple observation would conclude that we are being passed over by all the top players and then we are losing Canadian and US all star players....but we are stable!

Tons of big names still on the board. We are only 2 hrs into FA.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
i concur....yet I've been told to calm down and stop for fear of having a stroke.   Simple observation would conclude that we are being passed over by all the top players and then we are losing Canadian and US all star players....but we are stable!
ah bleeding sarcasim.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:26:07 PM
Receiver DaVaris Daniels agrees to terms in #Edmonton 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/3do? #Eskimos #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2019, 06:27:28 PM
if BLM is in fact returning to Stumps the West is gonna be a freaking blood bath.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 06:27:44 PM
Receiver DaVaris Daniels agrees to terms in #Edmonton 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/3do? #Eskimos #CFL
Harris will have his favourite target and a few more.....and Dressler remains unsigned?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 06:28:34 PM
Harris will have his favourite target and a few more.....and Dressler remains unsigned?
Not shocked


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 06:28:49 PM
So we can kill the hypothesis that players around the CFL won't or don't want to play for Jason Maas...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 06:29:08 PM
if BLM is in fact returning to Stumps the West is gonna be a freaking blood bath.
and blood like water flows downstream where we are currently paddling


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 12, 2019, 06:29:56 PM
if BLM is in fact returning to Stumps the West is gonna be a freaking blood bath.

Outside of the Riders it seems though. Only crumbs left for FA QB's as extremely doubt BLM would go there.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2019, 06:37:27 PM
Receiver DaVaris Daniels agrees to terms in #Edmonton 3downnation.com/2019/02/12/3do? #Eskimos #CFL

FA?s following the newly signed FA QB?s.

Good thing there is still some big names out there.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2019, 06:38:56 PM
Outside of the Riders it seems though. Only crumbs left for FA QB's as extremely doubt BLM would go there.
Weird it has not been announced yet.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 06:42:29 PM
If BLM doesn't land in the NFL he just may have blown his chances of being the highest paid QB in the league as teams continue to sign high priced FAs.   Or is Calgary still his safety valve?   They aren't going to pay him over $700K though!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
Weird it has not been announced yet.

I suspect Bo is actually the log jam in FA signings thus far.  Betting TO, Sask, Cgy, and possibly Ottawa haveoffers in, 2 are probably shortlisted but not confirmed, and all teams in the mix aren?t pulling any other triggers until his contract is finalized wherever.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 06:44:32 PM
I suspect Bo is actually the log jam in FA signings thus far.  Betting TO, Sask, Cgy, and possibly Ottawa haveoffers in, 2 are probably shortlisted but not confirmed, and all teams in the mix aren?t pulling any other triggers until his contract is finalized wherever.

Not a bad comment. Those teams have been quiet for the most part.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: bluebeard on February 12, 2019, 06:45:48 PM
Outside of the Riders it seems though. Only crumbs left for FA QB's as extremely doubt BLM would go there.
Riders are in the hunt for BLM and so is TO.  That seems to be what is holding things up.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
I just can't see Calgary getting involved in a bidding war but then Hufnagel knows the value of a QB.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 06:52:46 PM
Riders are in the hunt for BLM and so is TO.  That seems to be what is holding things up.

If the Riders land Bo, we are screwed.  Dickenson and Hufnagel can design an offence around a serviceable quarterback and be competitive.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Freebird on February 12, 2019, 06:53:02 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 06:54:21 PM
J Gared Davis to Hamilton.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 06:55:16 PM
I love this every team in the West will be decent fear, like that has not been mostly the case for the past few years.

You all are too much.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 12, 2019, 06:55:39 PM
If Reilly garnered the rumoured $725/season what will he get especially in a 3 way bidding war with two extremely desperate teams in Sask and T.O...?..


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 06:57:41 PM
If Reilly garnered the rumoured $725/season what will he get especially in a 3 way bidding war with two extremely desperate teams in Sask and T.O...?..

My guess: Over $800,000.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 06:58:02 PM
Unamba signs with the Esks


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 06:58:42 PM
I love this every team in the West will be decent fear, like that has not been mostly the case for the past few years.

You all are too much.
You're kidding, right? Edmonton and BC have bolstered their receiving groups whilst still having good QBs.

We have no idea what we are doing at DB, OL, LB, DT/DE  or WR. Its fair to be worried


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
You're kidding, right? Edmonton and BC have bolstered their receiving groups whilst still having good QBs.

We have no idea what we are doing at DB, OL, LB, DT/DE  or WR. Its fair to be worried

I honestly just don't have the patience to go through all the inaccuracy here.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:03:23 PM
John Bowman re ups in Montreal  for two years.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:04:50 PM
I honestly just don't have the patience to go through all the inaccuracy here.
Sure. Okay.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: bluebeard on February 12, 2019, 07:05:41 PM
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Once Levi signs, the rest of the dominoes will fall quickly


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: VictorRomano on February 12, 2019, 07:07:14 PM
https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/duron-carter-reportedly-agrees-to-terms-with-b-c-promptly-gets-called-a-cancer/

LOL

"Duron Carter reportedly agrees to terms with B.C., promptly gets called a cancer"


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 07:08:22 PM
You're kidding, right? Edmonton and BC have bolstered their receiving groups whilst still having good QBs.

We have no idea what we are doing at DB, OL, LB, DT/DE  or WR. Its fair to be worried

Edmonton may still lose Walker yet. I'd say they have made the best of a bad situation, but have not improved on offence. Some very good signings on D though.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:10:35 PM
Edmonton may still lose Walker yet. I'd say they have made the best of a bad situation, but have not improved on offence. Some very good signings on D though.
More than we've improved.

Its early but really right now while teams are budgeting on BLM, we should be getting the guys they might be holding off on


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:11:19 PM
Precisely


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 07:15:14 PM
More than we've improved.

Its early but really right now while teams are budgeting on BLM, we should be getting the guys they might be holding off on

I don't really believe that Edmonton improved all that much. They lost the best QB and best receiver in the league and several players to the NFL. They are simply making the best of a bad situation.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:15:23 PM
Sure. Okay.

You will eventually realize there is a metric tonne of quality players
 remaining at all positions we would be looking at, and other teams have shot their wad.

It is Day 1 of Free Agency and some of you are losing your minds.

Eventually you will learn not to overreact to free agency and realize the forest from the trees.

I see a lot of lateral movement going on.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 07:18:20 PM
also realize that the players we have interest and need...and would help us the most are all pretty much out there still?...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:19:58 PM
BLM back with the Stamps


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 07:20:26 PM
I think if Chris Jones was still in sask BLM would have been signed there already

Probably even yesterday ;)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1095361332361248768 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1095361332361248768)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 07:20:43 PM
also realize that the players we have interest and need...and would help us the most are all pretty much out there still?...

There is still a TON of talent on the board. Some of the players are going to wait and see what BLM does and the domino effect it might have on a contract offer to them.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:20:59 PM
Grymes to BC

Orange to Esks


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:21:10 PM
You will eventually realize there is a metric tonne of quality players,
 remaining at all positions we would be looking at, and other teams have shot their way.

It is Day 1 of Free Agency and some of you ate losing your minds.

Eventually you will learn not to overreact to free agency and realize the forest from the trees.

I see a lot of lateral movement going on.


I just said its understandable to be worried. We do have time but the direction of the team right now is hard to understand.

I thought you didn't have patience? Interesting you did. Guess you just like the confrontation?

(Also you didn't prove me wrong, you just said there were lots of players left and some are quality, I don't disagree)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 07:22:34 PM
BLM back with the Stamps

No surprise there. It'll be fun to watch Rider Nation implode now, though.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 12, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
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Bo Levi Mitchell re-signing with the #CalStampeders https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/riders-in-the-running-for-qb-bo-levi-mitchell-sources/ ? #Calgary #CFL

Crap. Well that's boring


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 07:24:23 PM
I honestly just don't have the patience to go through all the inaccuracy here.

Nothing inaccurate about any of his comments. We've lost 2 starting OL, 2 starting receivers are free agents.

On defense we've lost JSK already. Nevis, Okpa, Fogg and Loffler are all potential free agents.

Add to that we've parted ways with Leggett, Randle and Wild.

So 10 starters and 3 import depth players. 21 of the top 30 free agents are no longer available.

So far we've added nobody.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:24:37 PM
No surprise there. It'll be fun to watch Rider Nation implode now, though.

I personally enjoyed the apologies to Bo for the Coomissioner Bo jokes on riderfans....

Now when Jennings signs in Ottawa and Franklin doesn?t leave TO, that?s when the real Rider pity party will start.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:25:23 PM
I just said its understandable to be worried. We do have time but the direction of the team right now is hard to understand.

I thought you didn't have patience? Interesting you did. Guess you just like the confrontation?

(Also you didn't prove me wrong, you just said there were lots of players left and some are quality, I don't disagree)

Edmonton is neutral. Outside of maybe LB, name a position they are better at today?

BC may better, although Lulay played as good as anyone at year, how is their LB group going to look after this FA? Their OL is still mostly bad. They ate now the Edmonton of last year.

Cuts are coming to pay the bills too.

Saskatchewan looks like they will be much worse for so many reasons.

R-E-L-A-X



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 07:26:11 PM
No surprise there. It'll be fun to watch Rider Nation implode now, though.

I dunno....seems the Riders are in a perfect spot to win the top draft choice next year...and the year after...and then may another after that....

It worked for the Oilers...wait.....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:27:18 PM
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Bo Levi Mitchell re-signing with the #CalStampeders https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/riders-in-the-running-for-qb-bo-levi-mitchell-sources/ ? #Calgary #CFL


He was never going there.

Would not be shocked to see Jennings go there too.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 07:27:23 PM
Grymes to BC

Orange to Esks

Both would have looked good in Blue in Gold. Still some good ones left though. Evans for example.

Where are the Lions going to trim SMS to pay for these guys?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:28:02 PM
Edmonton is neutral. Outside of maybe LB, name a position they are better at today?

BC may better, although Lulay played as good as anyone at year, how is their LB group going to look after this FA? Their OL is still mostly bad. They ate now the Edmonton of last year.

Cuts are coming to pay the bills too.

Saskatchewan looks like they will be much worse for so many reasons.

R-E-L-A-X


Again, I'm not saying we're screwed. I'm saying it's understandable to be worries right now.

I'm perfectly calm, and acting reasonably. Plus, I'm allowed to post as I please within the guidelines.

Don't like it? Maybe you should R-E-L-A-X


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:28:36 PM
Both would have looked good in Blue in Gold. Still some good ones left though. Evans for example.

Where are the Lions going to trim SMS to pay for these guys?

Feeling like Solly is going to be a casualty.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:29:02 PM
He was never going there.

Would not be shocked to see Jennings go there too.
He was never going to Calgary? Maybe shouldnt say that when quoting a post saying he's going to Calgary...

Also dount Jennings would do that


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:29:10 PM
Again, I'm not saying we're screwed. I'm saying it's understandable to be worries right now.

I'm perfectly calm, and acting reasonably. Plus, I'm allowed to post as I please within the guidelines.

Don't like it? Maybe you should R-E-L-A-X

You don't have to quote me asking for a response if you don't want.

Also, yeah, your posts definitely portray panic.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Waffler on February 12, 2019, 07:29:13 PM
Ellingson deal 2 years, 250k per.

What?  Bighill starting to look inexpensive now.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:29:45 PM
He was never going to Calgary? Maybe shouldnt say that when quoting a post saying he's going to Calgary...

Also dount Jennings would do that

Going to the Riders.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:30:40 PM
Feeling like Solly is going to be a casualty.

He gone.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 07:31:25 PM
Ellingson deal 2 years, 250k per.

What?  Bighill starting to look inexpensive now.

That's a ridiculous amount of money for Ellingson.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 07:32:46 PM
Ellingson deal 2 years, 250k per.

What?  Bighill starting to look inexpensive now.

Seems high but it's going to take some money off the table for some other players still left in free agency.

Could work out well for us yet.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 07:33:15 PM
That's a ridiculous amount of money for Ellingson.

Not going to make Walker any cheaper.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 07:33:19 PM
With the BLM signing look for some dominoes to start dropping now. Probably killed our chances at Willie Jefferson.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 07:33:45 PM
You don't have to quote me asking for a response if you don't want.

Also, yeah, your posts definitely portray panic.
Never asked. You said you were too good to respond, essentially.

Not gonna lie, I'm seeing things as they go. I'm not saying our season is over. Nor have I expressed frustration that we are yet to sign anyone. There are a plethora of names still on the market.

That being said, people can panic if they want. Imo its unreasonable but they can do it. This isn't your thread, Leroy


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 07:35:09 PM
With the BLM signing look for some dominoes to start dropping now. Probably killed our chances at Willie Jefferson.

I don't know.

WJ seems like a guy that may hold a grudge that they let him get to FA. So if it is us and BC...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Fire101 on February 12, 2019, 07:35:32 PM
Ellingson deal 2 years, 250k per.

What?  Bighill starting to look inexpensive now.

That's a ridiculous amount of money for Ellingson.

Agreed. Bomber fans should relax and let Walters and company do their thing.

And I'm not buying the notion of the Bombers starting three international on the O-Line, they could easily go Bryant, Neufeld, Couture, Gray, Hardrick. In addition the Bombers have the 4th and 5th pick in the draft. We lost a guard (Chungh), not a tackle.

The biggest concern is that Lapo has to create an offensive scheme that pushes the ball downfield.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2019, 07:36:20 PM
I don't know.

WJ seems like a guy that may hold a grudge that they let him get to FA. So if it is us and BC...

I would agree if he signed by now with someone else, but I think he was waiting for the situation to play out. Just my opinion though.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 07:36:29 PM
There's a private message function for a reason, gents. Take your bickering there if you don't mind.

Edmonton had to make a big splash. They lost a good number of players - all after a pretty lousy 2018 campaign. These big signings look nice but it still all has to come together on the field.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 07:43:56 PM
I would agree if he signed by now with someone else, but I think he was waiting for the situation to play out. Just my opinion though.

I'd like to sign him but DE is not our top priority with Jeffcoat and Roh. He'd be an upgrade but an expensive one. Might be better off to keep Okpa on a more cap friendly deal.

Our top priorities should be receiver. Another good DB would help. I'm expecting we do re-sign Nevis so DT in not particularly an issue either.

We can probably adapt on the OL, WIL and safety.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2019, 08:14:17 PM
Apparently, RedBlacks GM Desjardins expects Dom Davis to be the starting QB for 2019.

Yikes.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 08:16:00 PM
Apparently, RedBlacks GM Desjardins expects Dom Davis to be the starting QB for 2019.

Yikes.

Called it.

 http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=51365.0 (http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=51365.0)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 12, 2019, 08:18:46 PM
I'd like to sign him but DE is not our top priority with Jeffcoat and Roh. He'd be an upgrade but an expensive one. Might be better off to keep Okpa on a more cap friendly deal.

Our top priorities should be receiver. Another good DB would help. I'm expecting we do re-sign Nevis so DT in not particularly an issue either.

We can probably adapt on the OL, WIL and safety.

not really, we should just reclass Streve as a WR/Slot... with his size and speed, I'm pretty sure he's faster than the majority of our current receivers, and then throw in the passing potential?  opposing defenses would have no clue as to what to defense, lol...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 08:27:59 PM
Micah Johnson signs with the Riders


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 08:29:28 PM
Willie Jefferson incoming.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 1chad on February 12, 2019, 08:38:13 PM
Willie Jefferson incoming.
Hope so!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 08:39:17 PM
FA?s following the newly signed FA QB?s.

Good thing there is still some big names out there.

They're like NBA teams out there, all agreeing to go to the same places together.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 08:43:40 PM
Apparently, RedBlacks GM Desjardins expects Dom Davis to be the starting QB for 2019.

Yikes.

No kidding. Why not make a play for Jennings or Lulay to at least add some competition? 93 career pass attempts only.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 08:45:58 PM
Naylor reporting RBs are in the Jennings bidding.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on February 12, 2019, 08:46:04 PM
No kidding. Why not make a play for Jennings or Lulay to at least add some competition? 93 career pass attempts only.

The east gets even eastier this year (see what I did there?)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: lenny on February 12, 2019, 08:47:19 PM
This is probably the most interesting FA I've seen in years. With BLM in Calgary, Reilly in BC and Harris in Edmonton the west should be as competitive as ever with the exception of Sask.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 08:55:55 PM
Adeleke to the Ti Cats


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 08:57:36 PM
This is probably the most interesting FA I've seen in years. With BLM in Calgary, Reilly in BC and Harris in Edmonton the west should be as competitive as ever with the exception of Sask.
the Riders look to be focussing on D and the signed Powell....they paid dearly for Micah J


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 09:01:05 PM
Adeleke to the Ti Cats
Darn, he woulda looked good in blue and gold


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 09:06:29 PM
Posey to the Als....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:09:36 PM
Jennings to Ottawa.

Haha Riders.....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:10:39 PM
LOkombo to the Als


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:11:47 PM
Ricky Colin?s to Esks


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 09:13:21 PM
LOkombo to the Als
Darn


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:15:37 PM
Sunderland apparently tired and no more money in the ATM.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 09:17:42 PM
well...Ackie to us looks better now..BC..Edm I would think are spent...Montreal signed Lokombo...Loffler too might now be a possibility


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2019, 09:25:09 PM
This is probably the most interesting FA I've seen in years. With BLM in Calgary, Reilly in BC and Harris in Edmonton the west should be as competitive as ever with the exception of Sask.

Wade is going to have to dig into the vault a little deeper to shore up the D if he has any plans on ending the GC drought.

Jefferson & Ackie...and getting Nevis & Loffler back at a slight raise would definitely help increase our chances.

The holes at receiver would then have to be fixed internally thru better coaching & useage on O, +/or thru better scouting. With 2 holes to fill Washington & Thompkins just might manage to do it in the type of O LaPo & Nichols run. Both receivers are big body types and have shown flashes of big play ability in their brief time with the BB.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Roosevelt and Walker are still available.  Either would be a great addition.

Or trade for Sinopoli so at least he can be in a different jersey when he lines up with a completely new offence.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:34:32 PM
https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/details-of-bo-levi-mitchells-contract-with-the-stampeders/

Bo didn?t do too badly for himself.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 09:35:55 PM
https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/details-of-bo-levi-mitchells-contract-with-the-stampeders/

Bo didn?t do too badly for himself.

Not bad but definitely came in under Reilly. A little surprising given age difference. He probably turned down bigger offers from both the Riders and Argos.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:37:18 PM
That is what Dunk would lead me to believe as well.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2019, 09:37:34 PM
Roosevelt and Walker are still available.  Either would be a great addition.

Or trade for Sinopoli so at least he can be in a different jersey when he lines up with a completely new offence.

Walker apparently wants $250+ and Roosevelt spends too much time on the IR.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 09:42:05 PM
I see we signed Jefferson and that's a great addition. Did we actually sign Ackie?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 12, 2019, 09:51:58 PM
Not bad but definitely came in under Reilly. A little surprising given age difference. He probably turned down bigger offers from both the Riders and Argos.

as what is being reported anyway... who knows what side deals may be cooking... just saying...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 09:54:20 PM
John Gott still out there. Good solid OL. Also Micheal Deane both nationals.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:54:50 PM
Levels to the Als.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 09:55:28 PM
That didn't take long. I just got a recorded voice mail from Mike Reilly being used to solicit season ticket promotions.

Good use of his signing from their PR in less than 6 hours. lol


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 09:58:20 PM
Argos looking to land Derel Walker.  Esks say he won?t be back.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 10:00:40 PM
Argos looking to land Derel Walker.  Esks say he won?t be back.
Out of curiosity, where are you getting this info? I follow Dunk and 3DN on Twitter and haven't seen half of what you've posted. (Not saying you're making it up, I'm actually curious as to your source, so I can get it too)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 10:01:48 PM
BC and Edm. spending lot's of money. Both teams loading up.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:05:05 PM
Out of curiosity, where are you getting this info? I follow Dunk and 3DN on Twitter and haven't seen half of what you've posted. (Not saying you're making it up, I'm actually curious as to your source, so I can get it too)

3DN live feed.  Dave Campbell tweet re: Walker and the Argos.

And sometimes RF, though that?s mostly entertainment.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
Farhan reporting BC is paying Chungh 250k.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:12:51 PM
Farhan reporting BC is paying Chungh 250k.

WOW. Well they need to protect Reilly but their going to have to let some other talent players leave. Reilly, Chungh, Carter and Grymes are all $$$$$$$ contracts.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:14:09 PM
WOW. Well they need to protect Reilly but their going to have to let some other talent players leave. Reilly, Chungh, Carter and Grymes are all $$$$$$$ contracts.

Don?t forget Burnham.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:17:56 PM
Don?t forget Burnham.

I was jut looking at the other CFL free agents signed and they probably aren't finished yet.

It was reported that Burnham was going to be one of the top paid receivers in the league. So you made a valid comment.

I'm curious to see what the Lions do for their back up QB's. Not many available and certainly none that are going to sign cheap including Lulay is they want him back. Lulay might get a better deal moving on to Ottawa or Regina for example.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Waffler on February 12, 2019, 10:18:28 PM
Farhan reporting BC is paying Chungh 250k.

I wonder what our offer was? I would think it was close.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 10:20:34 PM
WOW. Well they need to protect Reilly but their going to have to let some other talent players leave. Reilly, Chungh, Carter and Grymes are all $$$$$$$ contracts.
I don't think that they care about the SMS. It will be interesting to see if it increases ticket sales.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:20:43 PM
I wonder what our offer was? I would think it was close.

I would think it wasn't and reports were that we were quite far apart. Even for a Canadian OL that's a lot for one that isn't a LT or even a RT.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:22:06 PM
I don't think that they care about the SMS. It will be interesting to see if it increases ticket sales.

In the early going it will but I seriously doubt in the long run. Even when the Lions were doing well people weren't going.

I'll be at the season opener which is against Winnipeg if I remember the schedule correctly.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 10:22:26 PM
I don't think that they care about the SMS. It will be interesting to see if it increases ticket sales.

Indeed. I sure as heck hope it does....cause if it doesn't...yikes...that would be bad news for the league.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
and Solly


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:25:54 PM
Rough count shows about 45 potential free agents have signed this week. At least 20 have changed teams.

Still about 130 on the free agent list of which I'm guessing 30 or so will never play another down.

Probably 30-40 really good players left that are 1st or 2nd tier guys at worst. The rest are depth guys which will be signed in the next couple of weeks.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:26:34 PM
and Solly

Someone posted they expected him to be traded. I don't see that but you never know.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:31:09 PM
Given Hervey?s spending on offence, Biggie was probably never a real consideration in BC.  Reilly, Chungh, Burnham, Carter represent somewhere in the neighbourhood of 1.4M.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:32:44 PM
Dunk reporting Collaros back with the Riders.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
In the early going it will but I seriously doubt in the long run. Even when the Lions were doing well people weren't going.

I'll be at the season opener which is against Winnipeg if I remember the schedule correctly.
Yes you do remember right. Let's hope the Bombers DL and Biggie give the Lions OL fits all night.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 10:34:33 PM
Collars is one hit away from the end of his career.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 10:37:36 PM
Collars is one hit away from the end of his career.

Oh my... wouldn't it be awful if Jefferson was the one that delivered it?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:37:49 PM
Collars is one hit away from the end of his career.

That?s honestly the best case scenario.  If he escapes his c areer without permanent damage to his future quality of life, he will be very fortunate.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 12, 2019, 10:38:42 PM
Oh my... wouldn't it be awful if Jefferson was the one that delivered it?

Dial it back. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 12, 2019, 10:38:47 PM
All right, we settled for Collaros!

Yikes, may be a long, long season.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 12, 2019, 10:40:48 PM
All right, we settled for Collaros!

Yikes, may be a long, long season.

if needed, you have another option playing in your secondary...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Dunk reporting Collaros back with the Riders.
Well at least now we should make the crossover.  :D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 11:26:30 PM
Watching the riders and social media in general getting all hyped about signing collaros is beyond funny. 

Actually it's almost sad knowing this dude is going for get concussed and be putting himself at risk. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 11:29:33 PM
Watching the riders and social media in general getting all hyped about signing collaros is beyond funny. 

Actually it's almost sad knowing this dude is going for get concussed and be putting himself at risk. 

Over in their fourm a lot of people aren't enthused. The general consensus seems to be negative. Haha


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 12, 2019, 11:32:40 PM
Unfortunately he's glass. I had hopes last year...but that head of his. 

But what other options are there?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 11:42:27 PM
Unfortunately he's glass. I had hopes last year...but that head of his. 

But what other options are there?
Well Lulay and Glenn are still out there.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BBRT on February 12, 2019, 11:48:18 PM
Kevin Fogg to the Argos according to what I just saw on Twitter


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 11:48:44 PM
Unfortunately he's glass. I had hopes last year...but that head of his. 

But what other options are there?


That's just it. It's why not every team has a great option. Collaros has experience at least.  


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: RyGuy13 on February 12, 2019, 11:49:56 PM
Argos sign Chris Rainey, Kevin Fogg and Merer Timmis.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: lenny on February 12, 2019, 11:51:15 PM
Haha. Collaros back. Will he get injured the first game or  not. Maybe a few games but you know he is an IR waiting to happen.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 12, 2019, 11:51:47 PM
Kevin Fogg to the Argos according to what I just saw on Twitter
Wow, i thought he d resign here for sure...who's our KR/PR going to be??


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 12, 2019, 11:57:48 PM
All right, we settled for Collaros!

Yikes, may be a long, long season.

as much as it is a fun rivalry and we like to poke fun at each others teams, this hurts you guys.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: pjrocksmb on February 13, 2019, 12:00:53 AM
You will eventually realize there is a metric tonne of quality players
 remaining at all positions we would be looking at, and other teams have shot their wad.

It is Day 1 of Free Agency and some of you are losing your minds.

Eventually you will learn not to overreact to free agency and realize the forest from the trees.

I see a lot of lateral movement going on.



Expecting too much.  Most of this forum does the panic dance well.  Big shot to our OL.  Rest will sort out.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 13, 2019, 12:04:49 AM
Expecting too much.  Most of this forum does the panic dance well.  Big shot to our OL.  Rest will sort out.

no big shot to our CDN talent level


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: pjrocksmb on February 13, 2019, 12:10:41 AM
no big shot to our CDN talent level

Yeah double whammy

We will find a few pieces and draft might surprise


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 13, 2019, 12:39:08 AM
Unfortunately he's glass. I had hopes last year...but that head of his. 

But what other options are there?

they have another quarterback on their roster, just listed as a DB, Nick Marshall... He was the QB at Auburn for 2 years and played on the National Championship run team, lost to Florida State in a game they should have won... he's a dual threat QB but his strength is definitely tilted more to the running side of play... he's been behind center for them a few times last year running the wildcat, in fact he did just that and scored Sask's last TD against us in the semi final game...  he wouldn't be a long term solution but could be more than serviceable if needed to help fill a gap...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 13, 2019, 12:45:44 AM
We have no kick returner. Fogg I did not like, time to move on from his below average play anyways. But Rainey gone to! Eeek.

Can Roy Finch cross the border yet?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 12:51:16 AM
Expecting too much.  Most of this forum does the panic dance well.  Big shot to our OL.  Rest will sort out.

You're starting that song early this year.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 12:52:32 AM
they have another quarterback on their roster, just listed as a DB, Nick Marshall... He was the QB at Auburn for 2 years and played on the National Championship run team, lost to Florida State in a game they should have won... he's a dual threat QB but his strength is definitely tilted more to the running side of play... he's been behind center for them a few times last year running the wildcat, in fact he did just that and scored Sask's last TD against us in the semi final game...  he wouldn't be a long term solution but could be more than serviceable if needed to help fill a gap...

He's a top level DB and I doubt he will see more QB duties than last year.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: RyGuy13 on February 13, 2019, 12:55:35 AM
Dave Naylor ?Sounds like Jonathan Jennings choice is down to Toronto and Ottawa.?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 13, 2019, 12:59:45 AM
Dave Naylor ?Sounds like Jonathan Jennings choice is down to Toronto and Ottawa.?
if I were the Riders I?d rather have this guy than Collaros.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Squeakers on February 13, 2019, 01:03:24 AM
Watching the riders and social media in general getting all hyped about signing collaros is beyond funny. 

Actually it's almost sad knowing this dude is going for get concussed and be putting himself at risk. 
My source tells me they got their eye on a qb from the other CFL the Chilean Football League... their just waiting for the official CFL/CFL agreement ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue newt on February 13, 2019, 01:13:46 AM
Unfortunately he's glass. I had hopes last year...but that head of his. 

But what other options are there?

Honestly, I probably would have made a go at getting Lulay before Collaros.  Lulay is probably injured just as much, if not more, and I cringe any time either of them get hit hard because they break fairly frequently, but I would still take Lulay over Collaros.  The head hits are just too hard on him and it will only get worse.  And when Lulay is healthy, he can be fairly lethal.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue newt on February 13, 2019, 01:15:19 AM
We have no kick returner. Fogg I did not like, time to move on from his below average play anyways. But Rainey gone to! Eeek.

Can Roy Finch cross the border yet?

No.  Just no. 

How could we ever continue to make fun of the Riders players that get into legal trouble if we start signing the trouble ourselves  ;)



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 13, 2019, 01:25:33 AM
He's a top level DB and I doubt he will see more QB duties than last year.

desperate times can call for desperate measures... I'd like my chances with Nick Marshall over Drew Willy... just saying... lol 

and I'm not suggesting that they would forego looking for a suitable 1 and 2, just that in the event of an injury that they have someone in house that could be a stop gap if need be... they've already shown that they he could be a consideration as they have had him play the position for them already...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 13, 2019, 01:27:06 AM
No.  Just no. 

How could we ever continue to make fun of the Riders players that get into legal trouble if we start signing the trouble ourselves  ;)


yes just yes. As long as he can run like the dickens still.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue newt on February 13, 2019, 01:50:03 AM
Loffler to the Als.

Not going home after all.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 13, 2019, 02:29:46 AM
We have no kick returner. Fogg I did not like, time to move on from his below average play anyways. But Rainey gone to! Eeek.

Can Roy Finch cross the border yet?
I think that they're looking at Charles Nelson, the one who was returning kicks in the season finale. Fogg is no great loss.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 13, 2019, 02:33:21 AM
I think that they're looking at Charles Nelson, the one who was returning kicks in the season finale. Fogg is no great loss.
oh ya Nelson forgot about that guy, thanks.

Wasn?t impressed with Fogg for a while.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 13, 2019, 03:00:50 AM
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2019, 03:22:07 AM
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That is so ******* sad.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 13, 2019, 03:25:21 AM
Tragic...I thought he was better than that....going the Westerman route...will rot in the basement of the CFL until his contract expires, and will get absolutely lit up there. Suicide move....fade to black...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 13, 2019, 07:14:21 AM
THAT is disappointing!   


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 13, 2019, 11:53:08 AM
Toronto Argonauts Football Club has signed RB/KR Chris Rainey and DB/KR Kevin Fogg.

Solid signings by the Argos, two dangerous KR.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2019, 01:11:01 PM
Fogg was an okay kick returner, and lost most of the time at DB.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 01:18:40 PM
Fogg was an okay kick returner, and lost most of the time at DB.

Last year he wasn't very good returning but had a stronger than usual year in the secondary. Not an impact loss to the Bombers though.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 13, 2019, 01:28:48 PM
Fogg was an okay kick returner, and lost most of the time at DB.

if you were to go back and watch game highlight videos you see a whole lot of Fogg doing something worthy of being included in the highlight videos... we may miss him more than we realize as of now, just saying...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 01:29:35 PM
if you were to go back and watch game highlight videos you see a whole lot of Fogg doing something worthy of being included in the highlight videos... we may miss him more than we realize as of now, just saying...

He was also on the wrong side of just as many highlight videos. Not trying to diminish his good play at times, but his performance was either very good or very bad.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 13, 2019, 01:47:38 PM
Jennings to sign in Ottawa...

Looks like QB is settled for most teams ..still need to know what Ray is doing in Toronto.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 13, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
On @TSN1050Radio, Argos GM Jim Popp announces the club has signed DL Shawn Lemon. #Argos


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 13, 2019, 01:51:24 PM
Interesting comment from Jim Popp on BLM negotiations:


.@JimPoppGM - "We outbid the #Stamps (for Bo Levi Mitchell) by as much as a half a million dollars over a four year span. The effort was there." #CFL #Argos via @TSN1050Radio


.@JimPoppGM - "We did miss out on a few guys because we wanted to get the guy we wanted in the city (Bo Levi Mitchell)." #CFL #Argos via


.@JimPoppGM - "Today you will see announcements of other people. We added speed into what we already had with @crainey3. And potentially @Dee_Sky_Walker today."  Popp also expressed interest in potentially bringing in QB @TravisLulay. #CFL #Argos via @TSN1050Radio


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 13, 2019, 02:17:29 PM
Perhaps this was common in Ottawa:

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/ottawa-1200/ellingson-i-didn-t-feel-valued-by-the-redblacks-anymore-1.1256990 (https://www.tsn.ca/radio/ottawa-1200/ellingson-i-didn-t-feel-valued-by-the-redblacks-anymore-1.1256990)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 13, 2019, 02:38:21 PM
 David William Naylor Retweeted
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‏Verified account @sskroughriders
5m5 minutes ago

We have signed 🇨🇦 free-agent receiver, Cory Watson to a one-year contract.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 13, 2019, 02:40:14 PM
Interesting tidbit:

CFL on TSN
‏Verified account @CFLonTSN
13m13 minutes ago

MONEY ON THE TABLE: GM Jim Popp told @TSN1050Radio the four-year deal #Argos offered Bo Levi Mitchell was nearly $500K more than the one he took with #stampeders. Annual salary would have pushed past $800K. #CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 02:43:09 PM
Interesting tidbit:

CFL on TSN
‏Verified account @CFLonTSN
13m13 minutes ago

MONEY ON THE TABLE: GM Jim Popp told @TSN1050Radio the four-year deal #Argos offered Bo Levi Mitchell was nearly $500K more than the one he took with #stampeders. Annual salary would have pushed past $800K. #CFL

No surprise there. BLM was not going anywhere.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 13, 2019, 02:50:02 PM
BC and Edmonton have absolute trash secondaries.

We will see what happens to BCs D when Solly is released.

They lost Lemon today to the Argos on the Dline


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 13, 2019, 02:54:04 PM
I don't think BC will release Solly, they are getting tight to the SMS but not over it.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 13, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
Interesting tidbit:

CFL on TSN
‏Verified account @CFLonTSN
13m13 minutes ago

MONEY ON THE TABLE: GM Jim Popp told @TSN1050Radio the four-year deal #Argos offered Bo Levi Mitchell was nearly $500K more than the one he took with #stampeders. Annual salary would have pushed past $800K. #CFL

Sounds big but it's not that much more money. $500,000/4 = $125,000 per year. 35% tax is $43,750 per year. So it works out to an extra $81,250 per season of takehome pay. I mean, it's not nothing, but I don't think it's worth going to Toronto and having to endure life as an Argonaut for. Plus, cost of living is higher in Toronto, etc.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on February 13, 2019, 03:02:51 PM
Sounds big but it's not that much more money. $500,000/4 = $125,000 per year. 35% tax is $43,750 per year. So it works out to an extra $81,250 per season of takehome pay. I mean, it's not nothing, but I don't think it's worth going to Toronto and having to endure life as an Argonaut for. Plus, cost of living is higher in Toronto, etc.

The thought of myself turning down an extra 80K net on my salary makes me feel like such a peasant, lol.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 13, 2019, 03:04:44 PM
I don't think BC will release Solly, they are getting tight to the SMS but not over it.

Well then they are screwed because they have giant roster holes.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 13, 2019, 03:42:07 PM
Riders have signed CDN. free-agent receiver, Cory Watson to a one-year contract.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 13, 2019, 03:43:11 PM
OK, what can you trade to BC to get Solly?  Reunite "Team 100"?  


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 03:56:30 PM
OK, what can you trade to BC to get Solly?  Reunite "Team 100"?  

I'd give them back their 1st round draft pick. However it would be insane to have either him or Bighill playing at WIL for $200K+.

That said it would make more sense than JSK at $175K and clearly both could play / rotate from MLB or WIL.

Not going to happen I don't believe the Lions are looking to trade him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 03:58:31 PM
OK, what can you trade to BC to get Solly?  Reunite "Team 100"?  

Solly is not worth his price tag.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 13, 2019, 04:00:13 PM
Riders have signed CDN. free-agent receiver, Cory Watson to a one-year contract.

Guess Bagg is packing his bags.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 04:01:40 PM
Guess Bagg is packing his bags.

Bagg has been a glorified coach. He's back to the retirement home. He hasn't played a decent down of football in over 2 years.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 04:02:22 PM
Solly is not worth his price tag.

Yes he is but not as an addition to the Bombers now that we have Bighill.  Solly is still one of the top 2 MLB's in the league.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 04:02:30 PM
I'd give them back their 1st round draft pick. However it would be insane to have either him or Bighill playing at WIL for $200K+.

That said it would make more sense than JSK at $175K and clearly both could play / rotate from MLB or WIL.

Not going to happen I don't believe the Lions are looking to trade him.
I'd rather sign JSK and save a first


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
Yes he is but not as an addition to the Bombers now that we have Bighill.  Solly is still one of the top 2 MLB's in the league.

That is what I meant. The cost of acquisition and his SMS hit aren't worth it.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 04:13:25 PM
That is what I meant. The cost of acquisition and his SMS hit aren't worth it.

Maybe he wants out of Vancouver now and would like to play with Bighill again. He gets permission to speak with Winnipeg about a trade and is willing to re-negotiate his salary down to $150K.

Then he starts at WIL and R. Hall has the ability in different defensive sets to rotate Bighill and Solly at multiple positions including 34 defensive sets. Could also eliminate the need for a DI or PR LB type.

We give BC back their draft pick.

That works for me.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 04:16:28 PM
Maybe he wants out of Vancouver now and would like to play with Bighill again. He gets permission to speak with Winnipeg about a trade and is willing to re-negotiate his salary down to $150K.

Then he starts at WIL and R. Hall has the ability in different defensive sets to rotate Bighill and Solly at multiple positions including 34 defensive sets. Could also eliminate the need for a DI or PR LB type.

We give BC back their draft pick.

That works for me.
Seldom are players worth trading 1st rounders for...especially Americans and even moreso non-QBs. I just can't accept giving back a 1st. Keep in mind we sent BC our first last year for this one. It's not like it was a free pick


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 04:16:55 PM
Maybe he wants out of Vancouver now and would like to play with Bighill again. He gets permission to speak with Winnipeg about a trade and is willing to re-negotiate his salary down to $150K.

Then he starts at WIL and R. Hall has the ability in different defensive sets to rotate Bighill and Solly at multiple positions including 34 defensive sets. Could also eliminate the need for a DI or PR LB type.

We give BC back their draft pick.

That works for me.

Solly is not going to play for 150k.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 04:25:58 PM
Riders have signed CDN. free-agent receiver, Cory Watson to a one-year contract.

Yay! that's HUGE signing. You're a team to beat on the WEST now.  ;)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2019, 04:33:25 PM
I like Cory, but his best days are behind him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 13, 2019, 04:57:29 PM
Solly is not going to play for 150k.
He could be had if available though for a manageable price..he is coming off wrist surgery that kept him out all year


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 13, 2019, 05:01:26 PM
I love Jamie Nye saying the "other team" Mitchell cites as considering was the 'Ders when it is clear it was TO based on Popp's comments :D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 13, 2019, 05:08:12 PM
Argonauts sign DE Antigha. Another big loss for the Riders.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 05:10:39 PM
Solly is not going to play for 150k.

Of course not. I should have included a smiley face but thought that was fairly obvious. However if was willing to play for that I would certainly give back their 1st rounder. His versatility and the depth it would reinforce any injury at MLB would be worth it IMO.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 13, 2019, 05:11:06 PM
yup...that stings them...that defense will not be a strong point this year..


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 05:11:56 PM
He could be had if available though for a manageable price..he is coming off wrist surgery that kept him out all year

He played at the end of the season. The same as Bighill with a wrist injury.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 05:12:48 PM
Argonauts sign DE Antigha. Another big loss for the Riders.

Rats he would have been a nice addition if we used him at WIL.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 13, 2019, 05:13:19 PM
What is Sask doing??


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 13, 2019, 05:13:41 PM
heading to the cellar...rats are all jumping ship


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 05:13:58 PM
Farhan Lalji

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Adding local boy @terrell24davis is a good move for the #BCLions after losing Bo Lokombo. Will provide depth with Jordan Herdman as club appears committed to 🇨🇦 ILB. @BCHSFB


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 13, 2019, 05:14:19 PM
heading to the cellar...rats are all jumping ship

And that would have been us if we allowed Lapo to go there.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 05:24:54 PM
Farhan Lalji

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Adding local boy @terrell24davis is a good move for the #BCLions after losing Bo Lokombo. Will provide depth with Jordan Herdman as club appears committed to 🇨🇦 ILB. @BCHSFB

I don't buy that with Solly there. They won't move him to WIL with his salary. Also don't believe they will trade or release him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 13, 2019, 05:27:32 PM
I don't buy that with Solly there. They won't move him to WIL with his salary. Also don't believe they will trade or release him.
so Farham is just the Rod Peterson of the Lowerly Lions?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 05:30:11 PM
so Farham is just the Rod Peterson of the Lowerly Lions?

Solly has been best defensive player twice IIRC, in 2016 and 2017. It could be argued that he is better than Bighill but that's not the point. He's very very, very good as a MLB.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
https://theprovince.com/sports/football/cfl/bc-lions/so-long-lulay-big-name-signings-mean-big-name-lions-might-be-on-their-way-out-of-b-c


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 05:39:29 PM
A surprisingly slow day around the league with free agents. I think only 5 so far.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 13, 2019, 06:20:16 PM
A surprisingly slow day around the league with free agents. I think only 5 so far.

Some of the big money has already been spent!

Now guys will have to try and figure out how to get paid.

These shorter contracts are not great for players.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 13, 2019, 06:21:58 PM
Lankford went to Ottawa....looks like the Bombers will play the wait and see game with players who might become available after all the big $$ has been spent on recent FA acquisitions.   I was hoping we would have kept JSK and picked up a top shelf receiver....maybe Matthews will be available...I'd be happy with that.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2019, 06:24:20 PM
Bagg has been a glorified coach. He's back to the retirement home. He hasn't played a decent down of football in over 2 years.

Bagg was only brought back last year after the CFLPA forced Jones to reinstate him after cutting him while injured during TC.  He basically stood on the sidelines for the remainder of the season collecting his pay-cheque.

https://3downnation.com/2018/08/15/cflpa-disputes-riders-version-events-regarding-cutting-injured-players/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 06:26:04 PM
A surprisingly slow day around the league with free agents. I think only 5 so far.

8 other teams agreed to give the Riders the chance to catch up.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 13, 2019, 06:31:13 PM
NAT OL Spooner signs with the Eskimos.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Doublezero on February 13, 2019, 06:37:56 PM
Kevin Fogg to Argos


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on February 13, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
NAT OL Spooner signs with the Eskimos.

I'm still curious why he didn't get much of a look here. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 07:02:07 PM
I'm still curious why he didn't get much of a look here. 

Perhaps he wasn't good enough compared to the rest of our depth.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 07:03:00 PM
I'm still curious why he didn't get much of a look here. 

Too slow to develop. Can't wait forever.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
Too slow to develop. Can't wait forever.

That would be my guess as well.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 13, 2019, 07:10:50 PM
Sounds like Walker will sign with the Argos, who are desperate to make a big name FA signing...despite the over priced salary demand. This would also give Franklin another offensive weapon to prove he is capable of being the QB everyone thought he would be.

Roosevelt will go back to where everything old is new again...Riderville!

I?m thinking the Manny show has been put on hold until he can prove to interested GMs that like any good show there is an encore still in him.

Dressler may be the only solution (for the BB) to an ongoing problem, BUT I think his asking price will be difficult to digest all things considered. But that?s only IF the Riders don?t add him to their ?old is new again? theme for 2019.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 13, 2019, 07:13:14 PM
Hazleton is worth a look IMO


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 13, 2019, 07:17:49 PM
Argos sign Poop


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 07:21:04 PM
Argos sign Poop

While the Oil is in Edmonton and the dipstick is in Toronto
the Poop is in Toronto and the toilet bowl is in Regina

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Tehedra on February 13, 2019, 07:24:13 PM
Dissappointed to see that one of the NAT OL I thought we were developing went to Edmonton. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 13, 2019, 07:25:31 PM
Dissappointed to see that one of the NAT OL I thought we were developing went to Edmonton. 

I think Gray signing here made it easier to part ways with Spooner.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2019, 08:01:59 PM
Is Holley still in play??


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 08:06:42 PM
i heard contracts are much cheaper after the 2nd day...  ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 13, 2019, 08:22:06 PM
Nothing like a discount on day old FA's...

So, SSK started with 2 Johnson's,  signed a third one, lost one to Toronto, and one is left unsigned and might end up coaching...

Those Rider fans must sure love their Johnson's...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2019, 08:28:35 PM
I think Gray signing here made it easier to part ways with Spooner.

True, but also supplanted by Speller for at least the last 4 months.  Officially a draft flop.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 08:28:43 PM
Nothing like a discount on day old FA's...

So, SSK started with 2 Johnson's,  signed a third one, lost one to Toronto, and one is left unsigned and might end up coaching...

Those Rider fans must sure love their Johnson's...
We like ours too. J.Johnson became B.Johnson and then along came C(or P). Johnson.

Ditto with Adams. At one point we had Kris, Darvin and Johnny Adams


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 08:29:50 PM
True, but also supplanted by Speller for at least the last 4 months.  Officially a draft flop.
Same draft we took Ekakitie....and there were players like Boateng and Adeleke on the board.....oh how I want to forger


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
The draft could be the key to bombers Canadian depth.

Mathien Betts: DL The Beast. 6-3/250 QB killing machine.
Shane Richards: OL 6-8/325.
Jonathan Kongbo: DL 6-5/254 Very quick.
Alex Fontana: OL 6-2/300. Should go in the top 5.
Faser Sopik: LB/DB  6-0/205 Tackling machine.
Jamie Harry: DB  6-2/217. This guy could be Lofflers replacement.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 08:32:50 PM
The draft could be the key to bombers Canadian depth.

Mathien Betts: DL The Beast. 6-3/250 QB killing machine.
Shane Richards: OL 6-8/325.
Jonathan Kongbo: DL 6-5/254 Very quick.
Alex Fontana: OL 6-2/300. Should go in the top 5.
Faser Sopik: LB/DB  6-0/205 Tackling machine.
Jamie Harry: DB  6-2/217. This guy could be Lofflers replacement.
Not sure we got DL early now with Jefferson. Last year we only carried 3 DE's and 3 DT's


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2019, 08:40:30 PM
Sounds like Walker will sign with the Argos, who are desperate to make a big name FA signing...despite the over priced salary demand. This would also give Franklin another offensive weapon to prove he is capable of being the QB everyone thought he would be.

Roosevelt will go back to where everything old is new again...Riderville!

I?m thinking the Manny show has been put on hold until he can prove to interested GMs that like any good show there is an encore still in him.

Dressler may be the only solution (for the BB) to an ongoing problem, BUT I think his asking price will be difficult to digest all things considered. But that?s only IF the Riders don?t add him to their ?old is new again? theme for 2019.

I really hope they don't leave Dressler out-hanging like a forgotten wind-chime on a porch, the man deserves some level of respect from this organization and I hope they consider him as a positional coach if he does not fit their plans as a player.  Anyone questioning his worth to last year's team only need to go back and re-watch the WSF were he had his best game of the season against the Riders.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2019, 08:43:51 PM
Maybe it's Dressler holding up the process???


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
Maybe it's Dressler holding up the process???

Maybe, curious they did not give him an early release, like they did for Randle, Leggett and Wild, that's more of an official parting and can be handled in a classy manner.  Hopefully something is in the works, I won't be disappointed if he's their starting SB again.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 13, 2019, 08:56:35 PM
I really hope they don't leave Dressler out-hanging like a forgotten wind-chime on a porch, the man deserves some level of respect from this organization and I hope they consider him as a positional coach if he does not fit their plans as a player.  Anyone questioning his worth to last year's team only need to go back and re-watch the WSF were he had his best game of the season against the Riders.

The only issue with Dressler is his inability to avoid lengthy stays on the IR.

So the question may be...is Dressler asking for a signing bonus, and how much??

Paying in advance for something that has a history of easily breaking doesn?t help the cap.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 13, 2019, 08:56:53 PM
At this point I'd speculate it Dressler holding up the process.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2019, 09:12:44 PM
He mite be looking at retiring? Still has all the tools. He is tiny and maybe the hits have added up.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 13, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
Awe apparently off to TO.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 13, 2019, 09:38:20 PM
Watson is already in SSK, where they are supposed to be "getting younger".  Adding Dressler, not sure.. or Glenn... already passed on Durant..


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 09:40:42 PM
Awe apparently off to TO.

That's a bummer if true. He would have been a very good addition.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 13, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
More money then to throw at Ackie..he'd be a good get


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 09:44:52 PM
Awe apparently off to TO.
Surprised. According to Dunk, TO is planning on playing Antiga at Will (Awe's position). Plus they have Woods


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 09:46:50 PM
Not sure we got DL early now with Jefferson. Last year we only carried 3 DE's and 3 DT's

We also had Corney before his injury so we had 4 DE's active when we could. At the moment we only have 2 DT's.

Don't know anything about the DL draft candidates but they sound like DE's? So maybe candidates to replace Corney?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 09:47:59 PM
Surprised. According to Dunk, TO is planning on playing Antiga at Will (Awe's position). Plus they have Woods

Toronto sucks. I have a button that says so. They've signed two guys I would have liked.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 09:56:01 PM
Surprised. According to Dunk, TO is planning on playing Antiga at Will (Awe's position). Plus they have Woods

Sounds like Ball won't be back then? He's no slouch either. A little older and probably more of an SMS hit. Might be worth a discussion with his agent so see what numbers are like.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 09:57:28 PM
We also had Corney before his injury so we had 4 DE's active when we could. At the moment we only have 2 DT's.

Don't know anything about the DL draft candidates but they sound like DE's? So maybe candidates to replace Corney?
Yeah true. It's just tough to know. And Roh and Jefferson are FAs after this year I think so going end wouldn't be too bad. Just from a playing perspective, cant see any drafted end getting many reps with the team we have


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 13, 2019, 09:59:02 PM
Sounds like Ball won't be back then? He's no slouch either.
Isn't Ball a SAM? Yeah no I'd assume he isnt going back. Could be a name to watch here, if he isn't a SAM (Will?) as I know we were close to signing him when he was planning to come back from the CFL


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 10:01:44 PM
Yeah true. It's just tough to know. And Roh and Jefferson are FAs after this year I think so going end wouldn't be too bad. Just from a playing perspective, cant see any drafted end getting many reps with the team we have

Hard to tell how good one of the Canadians might be. One of our imports will be a DI and then there is the injury / nicked scenario. As mentioned we often used 3 DE's but that wasn't always with the 3 imports. Corney was getting some reps.

Bigger question is who is available by the time we draft.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 10:03:13 PM
Isn't Ball a SAM? Yeah no I'd assume he isnt going back. Could be a name to watch here, if he isn't a SAM (Will?) as I know we were close to signing him when he was planning to come back from the CFL

I think he's played multiple positions but you might be right that he's more of a SAM. For the right price he'd still make an interesting addition.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 13, 2019, 10:28:13 PM
Not sure we got DL early now with Jefferson. Last year we only carried 3 DE's and 3 DT's
I think that it might depend on how we use the ratio. If we start Thomas and rotate Canadians I could see us taking a DL at 4 or 5.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2019, 10:33:45 PM
I think that it might depend on how we use the ratio. If we start Thomas and rotate Canadians I could see us taking a DL at 4 or 5.

No chance in heck Thomas is starting full time.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 14, 2019, 12:44:12 AM
No chance in heck Thomas is starting full time.

Not full time, but the longer that goes without us signing a DT, the more it looks like we?re going Canadian at the position.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2019, 12:56:50 AM
I see TJ is an unsigned FA. I wonder what his price is this year?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 01:09:49 AM
No.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 14, 2019, 01:12:41 AM
Not full time, but the longer that goes without us signing a DT, the more it looks like we?re going Canadian at the position.

We'll sign a few rookie DT's before TC. Not having done that yet is meaningless.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 01:18:02 AM
If Mathieu Betts is available at 4 I can't imagine they don't take him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: PurpleReign on February 14, 2019, 01:59:56 AM
If Mathieu Betts is available at 4 I can't imagine they don't take him.

Betts has NFL interest but who knows what is going to happen with him.  If he is available and Bombers don't lock him up, then this organization has no clue on who to draft.  I have seen Betts play and the guy is simply a stud.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 14, 2019, 02:14:07 AM
If Mathieu Betts is available at 4 I can't imagine they don't take him.

They might pass on him at 4....

but no way they pass on him at 5.  ;)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 14, 2019, 02:47:35 AM
I think that it might depend on how we use the ratio. If we start Thomas and rotate Canadians I could see us taking a DL at 4 or 5.
Sure but then a DT would make sense...not sure of an end


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2019, 03:25:57 AM
If we want Betts we better trade up. He is predicted to go #1.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 03:28:28 AM
If Mathieu Betts is available at 4 I can't imagine they don't take him.

I can?t imagine him being there at 4...but let?s hope Kongbo is.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 03:59:31 AM
Betts has NFL interest but who knows what is going to happen with him.  If he is available and Bombers don't lock him up, then this organization has no clue on who to draft.  I have seen Betts play and the guy is simply a stud.

Definitely sounds like it.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 04:02:14 AM
I can?t imagine him being there at 4...but let?s hope Kongbo is.

I wonder how his recovery from the knee injury is going?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 04:45:29 AM
I wonder how his recovery from the knee injury is going?

ACL & MCL will definitely take some major recovery time. If the BB feel he?ll slip in the draft they may want to grab Fontana at 4 and trade down with the 5th pick to get an extra pick in the 2nd (to grab Nate Anderson or Robbie Smith)...or try to trade up to get Betts.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 04:48:46 AM
ACL & MCL will definitely take some major recovery time. If the BB feel he?ll slip in the draft they may want to grab Fontana at 4 and trade down with the 5th pick to get an extra pick in the 2nd (to grab Nate Anderson or Robbie Smith)...or try to trade up to get Betts.

I can't remember the term for when you blow out the ACL, MCL, and meniscus, but that is indeed a major injury.Something like the "unhappy triad". :D

Scares me away as an early pick.

Not a signing but related to the Powell signing, and this knee injury discussion:

Arielle Zerr

@arielle_zerr

O'Day says Mason had ACL surgery. He's out for the season. Big part of why they targeted Powell.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 14, 2019, 10:24:07 AM
@JDunk12
#Riders agrees to terms on a two-year contract with RB William Powell https://3downnation.com/2019/02/12/riders-agrees-to-terms-with-rb-william-powell/ ? #Saskatchewan #YQR #Riderville #Ottawa #Redblacks #RNation #CFL

I actually think this is a good move for the Riders.  I guess I'm the only one.  SSK does better when they have a legit power-run game.  Probably cost them a pretty penny though.

Must be cool for Hamilton fans to know they've made the Grey Cup in February.

Comment of the day.   ;D

That's a ridiculous amount of money for Ellingson.

Especially since he did absolutely nothing in the GC.  Past his prime finally?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 14, 2019, 02:55:08 PM
ACL & MCL will definitely take some major recovery time. If the BB feel he?ll slip in the draft they may want to grab Fontana at 4 and trade down with the 5th pick to get an extra pick in the 2nd (to grab Nate Anderson or Robbie Smith)...or try to trade up to get Betts.

MCL can actually be played with torn and generally doesn't require surgery..PCL is more devastating to go with the ACL
I blew my ACL..PCL and MCL all at once my first major knee injury...And my rehab was 14 months to be back playing, but that was in the early 90's when surgery was more intrusive and way less advanced...My second was about 6-7 years later and was just ACL and was back in just under 11 months...recovery is much faster now, and the techniques to fix it way better too
 If Kongbgo is ther at 4 or 5 I'd take him as I doubt Betts will be


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: VictorRomano on February 14, 2019, 03:03:18 PM
Poop getting some love in TO:

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/02/13/argos-make-social-splash-poop-johnson-signing/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Norm W on February 14, 2019, 05:50:20 PM
...and D Walker.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 14, 2019, 05:51:24 PM
...and D Walker.

Yep Walker is off the board for an eye popping 280k per


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 14, 2019, 05:55:11 PM
Yep Walker is off the board for an eye popping 280k per

I knew that was going to happen as he was in TO last night at the MLSE suite during the Raps game.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 14, 2019, 05:56:00 PM
Yep Walker is off the board for an eye popping 280k per
That's a lot, but it's only for a year


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 14, 2019, 05:56:27 PM
I knew that was going to happen as he was in TO last night at the MLSE suite during the Raps game.

They flew him in but I don't think anything was set in stone until he became the richest receiver in CFL history. Sure glad we didn't sign him to silly money like that.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
Yep Walker is off the board for an eye popping 280k per

Now it?s up to Franklin to get him the ball...or maybe this draws Frito Ray out of ?semi-retirement???


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 14, 2019, 05:57:57 PM
That's a lot, but it's only for a year

You would think they would have gotten term for that amount don't you think?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 14, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
You would think they would have gotten term for that amount don't you think?
Nah. 280 for one is smart for the Argos. If it works, then you build.and extend him. If it doesn't, probably won't need to cut him


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 06:02:46 PM
You would think they would have gotten term for that amount don't you think?

BB likely offered term, but he went for the big payday. Thus, the flight home to talk with family...??


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2019, 06:04:40 PM
If Walker has signed this will allow Walker money to be spent on other FA's.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 06:34:05 PM
If Walker has signed this will allow Walker money to be spent on other FA's.

Ackie will be the next ?big? target... once he has made the decision to stop waiting for that phone call from the NFL.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2019, 06:38:18 PM
Ackie would be a great signing for us.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 06:41:23 PM
MCL can actually be played with torn and generally doesn't require surgery..PCL is more devastating to go with the ACL
I blew my ACL..PCL and MCL all at once my first major knee injury...And my rehab was 14 months to be back playing, but that was in the early 90's when surgery was more intrusive and way less advanced...My second was about 6-7 years later and was just ACL and was back in just under 11 months...recovery is much faster now, and the techniques to fix it way better too
 If Kongbgo is ther at 4 or 5 I'd take him as I doubt Betts will be

I would shy away from it. Tre Mason tore his ACL last year and he is out for all of 2019 apparently. The recovery will be different for everyone.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 07:06:37 PM
Ackie would be a great signing for us.

And it really shouldn?t be that tough of a sell if he continues to have NFL aspirations.

Playing WIL beside Biggie and just behind Jefferson or Jeffcoat, or at Safety between Alexander & Sayles would definitely aid in putting together a sweet vid package at yr end.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 14, 2019, 07:10:36 PM
Nah. 280 for one is smart for the Argos. If it works, then you build.and extend him. If it doesn't, probably won't need to cut him

Term is ALWAYS better. Gives the team the option.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 14, 2019, 07:12:34 PM
BB likely offered term, but he went for the big payday. Thus, the flight home to talk with family...??

Players don't want term, teams do.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 14, 2019, 07:33:29 PM
I would shy away from it. Tre Mason tore his ACL last year and he is out for all of 2019 apparently. The recovery will be different for everyone.
Yeah he did it at the end of the year....so generally 9-12 months now basically puts him out for the year
Not sure when the dlineman hurt his, but he will heal...and be just fine...so if he isn't ready right away for TC...So what...he's a talent waiting in the hopper


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Darwinismyhomeboy on February 14, 2019, 07:37:22 PM
How are teams playing this much money?  250k plus for people that aren't QBs?  WOW.

I guess it boils down to, do you want a few stars and the rest are just there, or do you want a bunch of pretty good?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 14, 2019, 07:39:20 PM
How are teams playing this much money?  250k plus for people that aren't QBs?  WOW.

I guess it boils down to, do you want a few stars and the rest are just there, or do you want a bunch of pretty good?

I think you need a healthy balance of both. You need guys who will come through in the clutch when the playoffs are a win or go home proposition.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 07:39:27 PM
Yeah he did it at the end of the year....so generally 9-12 months now basically puts him out for the year
Not sure when the dlineman hurt his, but he will heal...and be just fine...so if he isn't ready right away for TC...So what...he's a talent waiting in the hopper

I am not saying the odds are not in his favour to recover. It is not exactly the no brainer non issue you are passing it off as due to your own personal experience.

He had a major injury. There is no guarantee he gets back 100% even to his college ability, let alone a pro level.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BBRT on February 14, 2019, 09:25:52 PM
Saw that Naaman Roosevelt signed back with the Riders. Sounds like it came to to US and Them and he went with them.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 14, 2019, 09:46:32 PM
Receiver Naaman Roosevelt has agreed to terms with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

Roosevelt's decision came down to the Riders and Blue Bombers.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 14, 2019, 09:49:44 PM
Receiver Naaman Roosevelt has agreed to terms with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

Roosevelt's decision came down to the Riders and Blue Bombers.

That decision I don't understand...and I'm not trolling, Sask doesn't look in good shape.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 14, 2019, 09:52:54 PM
tho also reported we kinda backed off...looking for a different type of receiver....which is good as he would have been my idea of settling...even moreso than Dressler as Dressler can offer you more to be honest


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 14, 2019, 10:00:00 PM
He must have heard they were signing Cody Fajardo....  surprised KG didn't get yet another shot at SSK...  I guess O'Day isn't a fan...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 14, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Cody Fajardo

@CodyFajardo17

Words can't explain how excited I am to be joining the great organization of the saskroughriders, and very eager to get to know the fans that make this team so much fun to be a part of! Im glad I'll be wearing the right team colors the next time I step into Mosaic Stadium.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Donny C on February 14, 2019, 10:18:17 PM
Cody Fajardo

@CodyFajardo17

Words can't explain how excited I am to be joining the great organization of the saskroughriders, and very eager to get to know the fans that make this team so much fun to be a part of! Im glad I'll be wearing the right team colors the next time I step into Mosaic Stadium.

Still lacking a QB.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 10:18:41 PM
Players don't want term, teams do.

For the most part...but there are exceptions to the rule.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 14, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Cody Fajardo

@CodyFajardo17

Words can't explain how excited I am to be joining the great organization of the saskroughriders, and very eager to get to know the fans that make this team so much fun to be a part of! Im glad I'll be wearing the right team colors the next time I step into Mosaic Stadium.

Wonder if he's thinking he has a chance to start.... he just might.  Bridge not resigned, Watford the other backup...

I wonder if Bridge is looking at Sinopoli and thinking that he'd make more money as a Nat WR than a QB... would bringing him into camp to convert to a WR make any sense at all?  6'5, 235 and pretty mobile...  would Lapo like that project as rec coach?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 14, 2019, 10:31:41 PM
How are teams playing this much money?  250k plus for people that aren't QBs?  WOW.

I guess it boils down to, do you want a few stars and the rest are just there, or do you want a bunch of pretty good?

Problem is the CFL is trying to make themselves a more attractive destination for entry level players and siphoning more money up to the top tier players isn't going to help increase tha amount rookie players are offered.  I would like to see positional limits set on a league wide basis with slight tier increases for each year of experience, a relatively simple equation could determine the salary for every player in the league.  F.A. would be more about players relocating based on changing teams or locations.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 14, 2019, 11:15:03 PM
Dominique Rhymes re-signed with Ottawa


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 15, 2019, 03:41:59 AM
Considering the Riders have already said that Collaris is there starter, CF is just a backup.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 15, 2019, 03:49:48 AM
Collaros is one bit away from retirement, I think he s hoping to grab the backup then starting job


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 15, 2019, 01:49:00 PM
Canadian receiver Nate Behar has agreed to terms with the Ottawa Redblacks on a one-year contract.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 15, 2019, 01:53:17 PM
Jovan Santos-Knox
‏Verified account @jsant05

Just want to thank @Wpg_BlueBombers and the entire city of Winnipeg for an amazing two years. Winnipeg became like a second home where I made many friends, family, and lifetime memories. Also one of the best locker rooms I?ve ever been apart of. Also want to thank the great fans.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 15, 2019, 02:27:50 PM
Nice note from JSK. 

I always applaud players that thank their former teams, fans, etc.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 15, 2019, 02:56:39 PM
For the most part...but there are exceptions to the rule.

Please name what possible reason a team would turn down term. There is NEVER a reason to do so when contracts aren't guaranteed.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 15, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Jovan Santos-Knox
‏Verified account @jsant05

Just want to thank @Wpg_BlueBombers and the entire city of Winnipeg for an amazing two years. Winnipeg became like a second home where I made many friends, family, and lifetime memories. Also one of the best locker rooms I?ve ever been apart of. Also want to thank the great fans.


You'll be missed but we all understand the business aspect in football. Careers are not always very long and players are just people that need to do what's best for them and their families.

Good luck in your new opportunity. We hope you have a hang nail on day's your new team plays Winnipeg.

Thanks for 2 years of exceptional play and effort.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 15, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Please name what possible reason a team would turn down term. There is NEVER a reason to do so when contracts aren't guaranteed.

You said ?players don?t want term?...teams do.

I was disagreeing with that first part of your statement.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 15, 2019, 07:43:21 PM
CFL Headlines
‏ @CFL_Headlines
5m5 minutes ago

RIDERS SIGN FREE-AGENT RECEIVER MANNY ARCENEAUX: The Saskatchewan Roughriders have signed international free-agent receiver Emmanuel Arceneaux to a one-year contract. Arceneaux (6?2 ? 210) has signed with the Riders after? http://dlvr.it/Qz07gz  via @sskroughriders #Riders


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on February 15, 2019, 07:49:44 PM
I kinda feel like Arcenaux is this year's Bowman.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 15, 2019, 07:54:20 PM
I kinda feel like Arcenaux is this year's Bowman.

Agreed.   


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 15, 2019, 08:09:43 PM
I was kinda wondering how much he'd get...  probably won't matter much to their SMS if he ends up on the IR....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: trapper on February 15, 2019, 08:16:54 PM
I kinda feel like Arcenaux is this year's Bowman.

A valid hypothesis. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on February 15, 2019, 08:33:01 PM
Could turn it right back on and be elite again, but it's risky. Walters was on the losing side of that risk last year so I'm not surprised he shied away from that strategy this year.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 15, 2019, 08:40:55 PM
Dominique Rhymes re-signed with Ottawa


Is that former Bomber Buster/Busta Rhymes son? Makes a great Rapper name! :)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 15, 2019, 08:49:27 PM
it's his nephew actually


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 15, 2019, 09:10:20 PM
Arceneaux might have been an expensive gamble. Not too concerned but the truth will be the result of his season etc.

OTOH, they got him and Roosevelt and we got?

NOTE: Lions have lost 15 players to other teams. Not all are before their best before date but they've lost a bunch of starters. They also have a bunch more 2018 starters including 2 OL and Lulay. The 2019 roster will be interesting to see how it pans out.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 15, 2019, 09:51:45 PM
They only had 4-5 of there 30 plus FA's signed when FA started.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 15, 2019, 10:09:15 PM
We lost 5 to other teams...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jbombers on February 15, 2019, 10:34:42 PM
As it stands right now, we are 100% worse off after everything that?s transpired over the past few days. I?m optimistic we can land one of the receivers trying out for the NFL, but there?s no denying we lost a lot. Especially on the national side of things. Your head is in the sand if you think otherwise.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 15, 2019, 10:37:02 PM
I'm okay with passing on Manny.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: gobombersgo on February 15, 2019, 10:55:57 PM
I'm okay with passing on Manny.
Yeah, 3DownNation indicated that Manny probably won't be ready until mid-season.

There should be NFL cuts available before then and would be in game shape.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 16, 2019, 02:05:36 AM
Yeah, 3DownNation indicated that Manny probably won't be ready until mid-season.

There should be NFL cuts available before then and would be in game shape.

That sounds awful.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 16, 2019, 02:28:01 AM
As it stands right now, we are 100% worse off after everything that?s transpired over the past few days. I?m optimistic we can land one of the receivers trying out for the NFL, but there?s no denying we lost a lot. Especially on the national side of things. Your head is in the sand if you think otherwise.
You got that right Bubba!!

Everyone around here seems fine with it though, we re going to pickup this magical receiver cut from NFL who will magically make us better overnight...like all those other NFL cuts have turned this franchise around overnight!!!

We are going to be doing good to get 4th in the west this year. Awesome !!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 16, 2019, 02:53:34 AM
We lost what 4 starters on D-Loffler, Randall, Fogg, JSK, and 2 OL-Goosen and Chung, and we picked up Rose and Jefferson ?my math says we re down 4 starters from last years team. That?s a GIANT step backwards.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 16, 2019, 03:00:13 AM
We lost what 4 starters on D-Loffler, Randall, Fogg, JSK, and 2 OL-Goosen and Chung, and we picked up Rose and Jefferson ?my math says we re down 4 starters from last years team. That?s a GIANT step backwards.

So, it is disasterous for a team to develop new starters?  OMG!




Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 16, 2019, 03:58:55 AM
The CFL is a little iffy on the draft. Should be more like the NHL where a team can draft and develop a player. Something like 2 years of entry level, and 3 years of RFA.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jbombers on February 16, 2019, 06:34:45 AM
So, it is disasterous for a team to develop new starters?  OMG!




Developing new starters and already having established starters are two very different things. We lost established starters and now have to rely on unproven guys to fill the void. How does that not worry you? We have no idea what couture and gray offer in full-time starting roles. If these guys are no where near what goossen and Chung brought, it will be a long year for Nichols and all us fans.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 16, 2019, 06:43:15 AM
So, it is disasterous for a team to develop new starters?  OMG!



OMG!!! No, but you?d think from a roster management perpective you d want to maintain as many of your starters as you can!!! Especially with our collection of clueless scouts!! For all this BS and talk about winnipeg being such a great destination for free agents blah blah blah, well that gone blown right out of the water didn?t it!! We started out of the gate this year behind last years talent level?that ain?t good trend!!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: DeeBoy on February 16, 2019, 07:30:23 PM
We?re going to have an awesome defence this year..better than last year?s. Btw, that includes the free agent pickup from the nfl -/ Adam Bighill.
What this team has done over the past few years is prepare for contingencies like those that arose this offseason. Mind you, nobody expected a player like Goosen to retire.
The only ones I will miss are Chungh and Santos-Knox.
The word was, last year, Loffler was in tough against Jones for the safety spot, so we?ll probably slide Jones in there this year.
As to receivers..plenty of time to find and sign. And we have the financials to do that.
As Alfred would say - what, me worry?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 16, 2019, 10:43:03 PM
I m not worried about losing Santos Knox, Wilson will do fine there. Chungh, we have Gray

we still don't have a #1 WR--an Eric Rogers, Derell Walker type play maker/ game breaker.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 17, 2019, 04:45:05 PM
Eddie Steele has confirmed that although Rider Nation won his heart, he will not be returning to the Green and White.

His after football career is sending him to Edmonton, where he'll be taking on a business venture alongside his father.

The only team he'll consider playing for this year, would be Edmonton, based on those specific reasons.

He's planting his family there this spring, and should Edmonton offer a reasonable contract, he would consider it, however, he's very content with his 9 year career in the CFL, and is ready to move on to the next stage of his life.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 18, 2019, 11:11:39 PM
Ian Wild signed with Toronto


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BBRT on February 18, 2019, 11:29:15 PM
Ian Wild signed with Toronto
good for Ian - Always liked the guy. I guess Toronto thinks he has some football left in him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 19, 2019, 12:08:51 PM
Toronto Argonauts have signed linebacker Ian Wild.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/18/argos-sign-lb-ian-wild/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 19, 2019, 01:16:59 PM
Toronto Argonauts have signed linebacker Ian Wild.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/18/argos-sign-lb-ian-wild/

They just need to find a guy named "Wildest"...


Good luck in your new job, Mr. Wild (except against us ;)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 19, 2019, 02:52:40 PM
CFL
‏Verified account @CFL

Heading west on the QEW, former #Argos LB Justin Tuggle signs with the @Ticats


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 19, 2019, 03:32:06 PM
Former CFL receiver Terrell Sinkfield has signed with the Orlando Apollos of the Alliance of American Football League.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/19/former-cfl-receiver-terrell-sinkfield-signs-with-aaf-team/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 19, 2019, 03:37:17 PM
well he screwed himself I think..when that league folds up shop..he will be back looking for work and most likely will have to take a deal at less than what he would have if he signed now


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2019, 03:39:11 PM
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Heading west on the QEW, former #Argos LB Justin Tuggle signs with the @Ticats

Tabbies' defense looking pretty legit again.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 19, 2019, 03:44:34 PM
well he screwed himself I think..when that league folds up shop..he will be back looking for work and most likely will have to take a deal at less than what he would have if he signed now

But he'll have earned another salary in the AAF and still be potentially available before CFL TC. Are their contracts 1 year or 2 year deals?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 19, 2019, 03:46:07 PM
not if they don't last the year tho, or fail to make payroll like they almost did....ain't no salary earned then


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 19, 2019, 03:54:16 PM
But he'll have earned another salary in the AAF and still be potentially available before CFL TC. Are their contracts 1 year or 2 year deals?

3 years...  or until they fold / don't make payroll.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 19, 2019, 04:57:29 PM
Former CFL receiver Terrell Sinkfield has signed with the Orlando Apollos of the Alliance of American Football League.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/19/former-cfl-receiver-terrell-sinkfield-signs-with-aaf-team/

Good. I would have been very disappointed if we signed him. Would rather have Dressler.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 19, 2019, 05:01:54 PM
Good. I would have been very disappointed if we signed him. Would rather have Dressler.

Sinkfield's last (only?) good season was 2015. I don't know if I'd rather have either, to be honest.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 19, 2019, 06:24:17 PM
not if they don't last the year tho, or fail to make payroll like they almost did....ain't no salary earned then

Either way he's still earning something that he wouldn't be currently earning in the CFL. No idea what his particular contact might be but maybe he has a " Bobby Gordon " contract that allows him to jump ship between seasons and earn two paychecks.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 19, 2019, 06:26:24 PM
I think Sinkfield must like playing DB. Never played it here but was a DB in the NFL and AAF.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 19, 2019, 06:38:45 PM
Ian Wild to Toronto is being reported by Dunk


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on February 19, 2019, 06:50:03 PM
Ian Wild to Toronto is being reported by Dunk

one page too late  :P


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 19, 2019, 06:57:38 PM
one page too late  :P

One day and a page too late...

Story of my life.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: bluebeard on February 19, 2019, 07:23:18 PM
not if they don't last the year tho, or fail to make payroll like they almost did....ain't no salary earned then
and that could happen soon if crowds do not improve.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 19, 2019, 10:49:03 PM
Ciante Evans signs in the AAF


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Horseman on February 20, 2019, 12:17:19 AM
Its confirmed that Ian Wild signed with the Argos.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 20, 2019, 02:19:33 PM
Ciante Evans signs in the AAF

That's very surprising. He's a top CFL CB and must have had some very good offers. While I think our secondary is the least of our issues he would have been a nice addition.

Don't understand why he'd join the AAF.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 20, 2019, 02:23:13 PM
Ciante Evans signs in the AAF

Gets a payday until the league folds in May and then is a FA again just before TC.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 20, 2019, 02:43:41 PM
thats almost how i think some of these guys are veiwing it...like why sign now?...other than to maximize their income over the course of a full year


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 20, 2019, 02:47:31 PM
Canadian defensive lineman Stefan Charles has signed with the San Antonio Commanders in the Alliance of American Football.

Charles has played in 49 NFL games making 60 tackles and recording five sacks over four seasons with the Bills and Detroit Lions.

The 30-year-old spent training camp with the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2017 and Kansas City Chiefs in 2018.

Charles was drafted by Edmonton in the second round, 10th overall by the Eskimos during the 2013 CFL draft. He played university football for the Regina Rams.

Charles would have drawn interest on the CFL trade market if he made it to Edmonton, but the AAF has derailed those possibilities for now.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 20, 2019, 03:03:12 PM
That's very surprising. He's a top CFL CB and must have had some very good offers. While I think our secondary is the least of our issues he would have been a nice addition.

Don't understand why he'd join the AAF.
Money now, plus closer to home?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 20, 2019, 03:29:16 PM
Money now, plus closer to home?

Depends on whether his contract gives him an out if the league doesn't fold. In theory he'd be available to the CFL before TC if his contract allows him to leave. OTOH teams may no longer have SMS room and there is always the what if he gets injured.

I don't know how much he'll get in AAF but it puts a potential CFL deal at risk at a couple of levels.

Now if his thought is to latch on to an NFL team and is just killing time until NFL TC's start opening up then maybe it makes sense. I just don't see the risk / reward as paying off for a CFL " star player " per se.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on February 20, 2019, 03:43:20 PM
Would he not get the standard deal as claimed by the league...70k yr one..80k yr 2...100k year 3?...or whatever it was for a 250k 3 year deal?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 20, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
Surprised Matthews hasn't taken this route...  Where better to showcase your abilities in trying to get back into the NFL...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 20, 2019, 05:36:47 PM
Would he not get the standard deal as claimed by the league...70k yr one..80k yr 2...100k year 3?...or whatever it was for a 250k 3 year deal?

Probably but wouldn't he have gotten $150K as a top CFL CB. I guess when you equate the USD for less games and tax advantage it's not that far apart?

Anyway, just seemed surprising to see a top CFL talent go that route. Makes sense for bottom 1/3 players I suppose but not so much on those at the top of their positions.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 20, 2019, 06:55:57 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have signed national offensive lineman Mike Filer, the team announced on Wednesday.

Filer, the current longest-serving member of the Tiger-Cats, returns for his eighth season in Hamilton.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 21, 2019, 12:30:00 AM
let's see... $150K Canadian is roughly equal to about $6300 US, before tax implications, per game for an 18 game season... $70K US is equal to $7000 per game, before tax implications, but only US tax...   less games, more money... not much to think about really...

and, while most think that nobody is watching the AAF, the early Saturday game on TNT had over 1,000,000 viewers, the 2 games on the NFL Network both drew about 425,000 (which is considered a premium channel and is not included in most cable lower tier offereings)... the CBS Sports Network, another premium channel, isn't on Nielsen so those numbers aren't readily available...  And while 'butts in the seats' numbers may not seem impressive, San Antonio again had over 27K in the stands and Birmingham over 17K... I don't think those are numbers to really sneeze at this early... people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

plus, the NFL as an entity is watching those games, which to players, is probably pretty important...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 21, 2019, 01:55:57 PM
let's see... $150K Canadian is roughly equal to about $6300 US, before tax implications, per game for an 18 game season... $70K US is equal to $7000 per game, before tax implications, but only US tax...   less games, more money... not much to think about really...

and, while most think that nobody is watching the AAF, the early Saturday game on TNT had over 1,000,000 viewers, the 2 games on the NFL Network both drew about 425,000 (which is considered a premium channel and is not included in most cable lower tier offereings)... the CBS Sports Network, another premium channel, isn't on Nielsen so those numbers aren't readily available...  And while 'butts in the seats' numbers may not seem impressive, San Antonio again had over 27K in the stands and Birmingham over 17K... I don't think those are numbers to really sneeze at this early... people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

plus, the NFL as an entity is watching those games, which to players, is probably pretty important...

Those same people slow down on the freeway to see accident sites. Initial curiosity doesn't mean it is something that will sustain or grow.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 21, 2019, 04:30:49 PM
Those same people slow down on the freeway to see accident sites. Initial curiosity doesn't mean it is something that will sustain or grow.

that was actually pretty funny, made me laugh... but seriously...

I can't speak for all venues, but I can speak for Birmingham as I have been to both of their first 2 home games and will be going to Atlanta this weekend to watch them play the Legends... they had 17,000 and a few thru the turnstiles game one and 17,300 in game two... the crowd was absolutely in to the game, loud, vocal, and stayed to the end... without having a pro team in Alabama this may not be the norm, but it was a great game atmosphere and a passionate fan base on which to build... also, it's hard to dispute a viewership of over 1,000,000 people... hardly a freeway accident drive by... 

the highest rating CFL game in the US, before the Manziel debut game this year which was approximately 400,000 and would be the definition of a freeway accident drive by, was 264,000... this year's Grey Cup drew 3,000,000 viewers total, down 1,000,000 from last year and almost half of the audience it drew 9 years ago...  I think every league outside of the NFL, which by the way was up in viewership over last year, has there areas that they need to be concerned about...

I know some here view the AAF as a threat, whether they want to admit or not... haters gonna hate... but I believe that there is room to add more football in a time when there is none and hope that the league finds it's niche and continues on, much like the CFL...  it doesn't have to be one or the other...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 21, 2019, 05:02:17 PM
that was actually pretty funny, made me laugh... but seriously...

I can't speak for all venues, but I can speak for Birmingham as I have been to both of their first 2 home games and will be going to Atlanta this weekend to watch them play the Legends... they had 17,000 and a few thru the turnstiles game one and 17,300 in game two... the crowd was absolutely in to the game, loud, vocal, and stayed to the end... without having a pro team in Alabama this may not be the norm, but it was a great game atmosphere and a passionate fan base on which to build... also, it's hard to dispute a viewership of over 1,000,000 people... hardly a freeway accident drive by... 

the highest rating CFL game in the US, before the Manziel debut game this year which was approximately 400,000 and would be the definition of a freeway accident drive by, was 264,000... this year's Grey Cup drew 3,000,000 viewers total, down 1,000,000 from last year and almost half of the audience it drew 9 years ago...  I think every league outside of the NFL, which by the way was up in viewership over last year, has there areas that they need to be concerned about...

I know some here view the AAF as a threat, whether they want to admit or not... haters gonna hate... but I believe that there is room to add more football in a time when there is none and hope that the league finds it's niche and continues on, much like the CFL...  it doesn't have to be one or the other...

17000 people won't even scratch the surface of the expenses. This league is a dog. At least in Canada the CFL has really good corporate support because of it's tradition and long developed business relationships. Corporate USA will never tie itself to a loser for fear of being labelled one themselves. This league is dead. The media smells blood and has already labelled it a loser. It's just a matter of time now. No one will invest time or emotion in a team or league that is most certainly not going to be successful. The ratings and attendance have already taken a huge hit and we are in week 2.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 21, 2019, 06:00:17 PM
17000 people won't even scratch the surface of the expenses. This league is a dog. At least in Canada the CFL has really good corporate support because of it's tradition and long developed business relationships. Corporate USA will never tie itself to a loser for fear of being labelled one themselves. This league is dead. The media smells blood and has already labelled it a loser. It's just a matter of time now. No one will invest time or emotion in a team or league that is most certainly not going to be successful. The ratings and attendance have already taken a huge hit and we are in week 2.

the numbers suggest otherwise, but I'm not here to argue with anyone... https://awfulannouncing.com/turner/despite-rumors-of-impending-doom-aaf-viewership-was-solid-in-week-2.html (https://awfulannouncing.com/turner/despite-rumors-of-impending-doom-aaf-viewership-was-solid-in-week-2.html)


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 21, 2019, 06:32:40 PM
the numbers suggest otherwise, but I'm not here to argue with anyone... https://awfulannouncing.com/turner/despite-rumors-of-impending-doom-aaf-viewership-was-solid-in-week-2.html (https://awfulannouncing.com/turner/despite-rumors-of-impending-doom-aaf-viewership-was-solid-in-week-2.html)

There are a ton of media reports that are suggesting the attendance numbers are being grossly inflated. Even the bizarre camera angles on their broadcasts seem to indicate the league does not want anyone to see how empty the stands are. Many of the still photographs are laughable. I realize that some of these stadiums are 60k but a few of the stills look like less than 10% of the seats are filled. I get that you really want this to work 66, but the writing is on the wall....or are you na?ve enough to believe Dundon will lose 250 million before folding the league? This league is toast at the end of this year...book it. The CFL teams with half the payroll expense and strong TV and corporate deals is barely solvent with much better attendance.

The league has a 102 million players salary commitment per year. Tack on another 80 million for stadium lease etc. etc, and it isn't hard to see that Dundon's 250m is going to quickly evaporate without some serious revenue coming in. 10000 fans will not cut it. This league has a very short schedule to generate gate. Can't be done. Anyone with a calculator and a grade 4 education can see the math doesn't add up.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 21, 2019, 08:08:39 PM
515 players at $75000'yr = $38,625,000/yr for player salaries this year. *plus benifits

8 teams play 10 games 5 home each or 80 games to create revenue at an average of 16,000/game at an average of $25 (really hard to average as some seats are $50ea, while others are $15) but using $25
$25x16000=400000x80 =32,000,000, so without equipment, player benefits, stadium rent,  coaches and trainers salaries , travel, etc. they are in the red approx. 6.5 million a year.

Now I actually want the league to survive I like football, I even watched the original XFL, but without additional revenue streams it is in big trouble...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 21, 2019, 08:41:11 PM
Kienan LaFrance has returned to the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

The CFL team announced Thursday that it had signed the national free-agent running back, who spent the 2017 season with the Roughriders.

He was a member of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in 2018.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 21, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
515 players at $75000'yr = $38,625,000/yr for player salaries this year. *plus benifits

8 teams play 10 games 5 home each or 80 games to create revenue at an average of 16,000/game at an average of $25 (really hard to average as some seats are $50ea, while others are $15) but using $25
$25x16000=400000x80 =32,000,000, so without equipment, player benefits, stadium rent,  coaches and trainers salaries , travel, etc. they are in the red approx. 6.5 million a year.

Now I actually want the league to survive I like football, I even watched the original XFL, but without additional revenue streams it is in big trouble...

* plus benefits   
is a huge part of this, as the players have been promised health care, retirement, and education benefits.  I wouldn't be surprised if those cost 1/3 of salary promises...

While some of your estimates might be generous, there are other revenue streams in seasons corporate ticket sales, skyboxes, etc that may come on line if the league shows better....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 21, 2019, 11:05:00 PM
There are a ton of media reports that are suggesting the attendance numbers are being grossly inflated. Even the bizarre camera angles on their broadcasts seem to indicate the league does not want anyone to see how empty the stands are. Many of the still photographs are laughable. I realize that some of these stadiums are 60k but a few of the stills look like less than 10% of the seats are filled. I get that you really want this to work 66, but the writing is on the wall....or are you na?ve enough to believe Dundon will lose 250 million before folding the league? This league is toast at the end of this year...book it. The CFL teams with half the payroll expense and strong TV and corporate deals is barely solvent with much better attendance.

The league has a 102 million players salary commitment per year. Tack on another 80 million for stadium lease etc. etc, and it isn't hard to see that Dundon's 250m is going to quickly evaporate without some serious revenue coming in. 10000 fans will not cut it. This league has a very short schedule to generate gate. Can't be done. Anyone with a calculator and a grade 4 education can see the math doesn't add up.

I'm not suggesting that this league will be successful, fact is that the odds are against this... I'm saying that there are conflicting reports related to all aspects of AAF activities... I've read online that Dundon's wasn't an overnight bail out, that in fact there had been talks with him long prior to last week about becoming an investor... I'm not saying that is true either... but what I am saying is, I enjoy the possibility of more football and I hope they succeed and that nobody here, myself included, have a clue as to what their operational expenses are or what their business plan actually says or includes, it's all speculation... it's week 3, none of us actually know how or when this will end, I'm just along for the ride...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 21, 2019, 11:09:43 PM
There are a ton of media reports that are suggesting the attendance numbers are being grossly inflated. Even the bizarre camera angles on their broadcasts seem to indicate the league does not want anyone to see how empty the stands are. Many of the still photographs are laughable. I realize that some of these stadiums are 60k but a few of the stills look like less than 10% of the seats are filled. I get that you really want this to work 66, but the writing is on the wall....or are you na?ve enough to believe Dundon will lose 250 million before folding the league? This league is toast at the end of this year...book it. The CFL teams with half the payroll expense and strong TV and corporate deals is barely solvent with much better attendance.

The league has a 102 million players salary commitment per year. Tack on another 80 million for stadium lease etc. etc, and it isn't hard to see that Dundon's 250m is going to quickly evaporate without some serious revenue coming in. 10000 fans will not cut it. This league has a very short schedule to generate gate. Can't be done. Anyone with a calculator and a grade 4 education can see the math doesn't add up.

also, the league does not have a first year commitment of $102M in player salaries, I'm not sure where you got that number from but, 52 players x $70K (1st year salary) x 8 teams = less than $30M for first year salaries...  I may not have much more than a 4th grade education but I do own a calculator and a computer...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue girl on February 21, 2019, 11:29:09 PM
Kienan LaFrance has returned to the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

The CFL team announced Thursday that it had signed the national free-agent running back, who spent the 2017 season with the Roughriders.

He was a member of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in 2018.
I'm not surprised. Augustine is cheaper and has more upside.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 21, 2019, 11:31:29 PM
Kienan LaFrance has returned to the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

The CFL team announced Thursday that it had signed the national free-agent running back, who spent the 2017 season with the Roughriders.

He was a member of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in 2018.
Good to see he caught on somewhere else. It was obvious here Augustine was ahead of him in the depth chart and local product or not, we gotta go with who?s best not who?s local


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 22, 2019, 06:28:29 AM
Kienan LaFrance has returned to the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

A good move for LaFra and SSK.  Although how will he be used in SSK with their all-INT RB setup?  Guess they could take out a NAT WR when Fra is in.

I bet he had to take a decent pay cut... he underwhelmed in '18 in B&G, same as his '17 year.  I still think the kid has potential, but he's going to need to step it up big time or he'll fade away into obscurity.  I'm perfectly happy we let him go in favor of Augustine.  Thanks anyways for your efforts in '18 LaFra, and I hope you learned some useful tidbits from AH33.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 22, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
Farhan Lalji

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#BCLions are exploring trade possibilities for Solomon Elimimian & David Foucault, per sources. Nothing is imminent. GM Ed Hervey declined comment. He did say at the Reilly signing that fans could expect the team to have to part with some familiar names. @cfl @CFLonTSN @TSN1040


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 22, 2019, 05:49:39 PM
Farhan Lalji

@FarhanLaljiTSN
#BCLions are exploring trade possibilities for Solomon Elimimian & David Foucault, per sources. Nothing is imminent. GM Ed Hervey declined comment. He did say at the Reilly signing that fans could expect the team to have to part with some familiar names. @cfl @CFLonTSN @TSN1040

I still think that trading Elimimian doesn't happen. Their LB corps lost Awe and Lokombo. Mo has a large SMS and not many teams will be in a position of need or consider that hit to their SMS. What would a team need to give up in trade for a top defensive player on top of absorbing the salary?

I wonder who else the Lions are considering trading?

Foucault might be a trade commodity as a Canadian but don't know his salary. Canadian OL Husband is still not re-signed. Greaves as well but I'm expecting he might retire. Lions still have 9 players as potential free agents left. Lost 17 players elsewhere. Roster is in big trouble.

I wonder if Foucault is better and has more upside than our current candidates. RG is a little uncertain at the moment.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 22, 2019, 05:52:03 PM
Farhan Lalji

@FarhanLaljiTSN
#BCLions are exploring trade possibilities for Solomon Elimimian & David Foucault, per sources. Nothing is imminent. GM Ed Hervey declined comment. He did say at the Reilly signing that fans could expect the team to have to part with some familiar names. @cfl @CFLonTSN @TSN1040

Doesn't make sense to sign Riley to a huge deal, and then sign Burnham and then clean house even more than it has been cleaned out in FA?  

They are going to be a very young team...

What do you trade for Solly?  Anything?  Wait for his release?  He obviously has been paid some roster bonuses already, so BC doesn't want to write that off...   do you give up a first rounder, maybe next years?  They don't pick until 24 this year....  or is there an Int they might want, someone on an ELC that won't kill their SMS... maybe Wilson...  I'm not sure how you make a trade for Solly work, or even if Bighill wants to share the LB dutins with him...



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 22, 2019, 05:58:35 PM
Doesn't make sense to sign Riley to a huge deal, and then sign Burnham and then clean house even more than it has been cleaned out in FA?  

They are going to be a very young team...

What do you trade for Solly?  Anything?  Wait for his release?  He obviously has been paid some roster bonuses already, so BC doesn't want to write that off...   do you give up a first rounder, maybe next years?  They don't pick until 24 this year....  or is there an Int they might want, someone on an ELC that won't kill their SMS... maybe Wilson...  I'm not sure how you make a trade for Solly work, or even if Bighill wants to share the LB dutins with him...



I wouldn't be inclined to make a trade for him unless he was willing to re-negotiate his contract. If he was willing to do that he'd probably do that in Vancouver wouldn't he?

Sure he could play WIL but in what world would you pay your WIL that salary? We weren't even prepared to pay JSK $145K let alone $200K+. Even if he's released it's still going to be an issue of fit to SMS and role.

Calgary MIGHT be interested in him to start at MLB since they lost Singleton. However, they lost a ton of other talent to either NFL or CFL teams ( 15 players ). Not sure what they could give up.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 23, 2019, 12:54:44 AM
Wasn't team 100 the envy of the league?  If we have the cap space, should you invest in having the leagues best LB combo, or wait for a WR?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2019, 02:49:48 AM
Wasn't team 100 the envy of the league?  If we have the cap space, should you invest in having the leagues best LB combo, or wait for a WR?

When they weren't being paid what they are now, sure. That was a while ago, though. So, you can't really look at things that way in the present.

And yes, WR is the top priority right now.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 23, 2019, 01:03:06 PM
Edmonton Eskimos have signed quarterback Logan Kilgore.

Kilgore was out of football for the 2018 season, but three seasons in the CFL previously 2015 through 2017 split between the Toronto Argonauts and Hamilton Tiger-Cats.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 23, 2019, 02:43:11 PM
Wasn't team 100 the envy of the league?  If we have the cap space, should you invest in having the leagues best LB combo, or wait for a WR?

No for the same reason I just mentioned about not paying JSK around $145K. JSK is not Elimimian but WIL is not where you spend that kind of money.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 23, 2019, 03:45:34 PM
Silly and manny are high priced veterans well past their prime. I can?t beleive saskatchewan signed manny, er, yes I can, but other than them no one would have signed him. Unless solly takes a big pay cut, which I doubt he will, I don?t think he signs with anyone. This one will drag out until he blinks/takes a pay cut


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 23, 2019, 05:37:38 PM
Manny will be six gamed right at the start and save lots of SMS cash.

Not a huge expense and worth the risk.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 23, 2019, 06:11:03 PM
On Lionbackers they suggested Foucault's 2019 salary would be $117K + $18K in potential bonus. That's not as huge a salary as I imagined. OTOH they are expecting a 1st round pick back in trade.

Possibly not out of the question for SMS hit or trade value. A 4th or 5th pick in the 1st round might end up costing as much and be less ready to play?

I guess it comes down to how ready any of our 3 or 4 current rostered players are to being starter ready a RG. Gray might be the future but who is 1st up on the depth chart NOW. If  draft an OL will he leap frog somebody?

I honestly am not sure how good Foucault is, what his upside might be compared to our players. The only relevant issue is that he has more experience at the moment. Is that worth considering a trade?



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 23, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
No need for an Olineman.  If they are willing to part with a starting Nat that has a 117-135k cap hit due to SMS woes, you don't want that guy. We have better / cheaper on our roster, and don't have to give anything up for them.

I don't think Solly is worth anything substantial in trade, depending on his contract.  But if he comes on the open market, could be worth a look at least....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 23, 2019, 08:46:57 PM
Canadian quarterback Brandon Bridge has agreed to terms on a one-year contract with the Toronto Argonauts.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/23/canadian-qb-brandon-bridge-to-sign-with-toronto-argos/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 23, 2019, 09:10:00 PM
Canadian quarterback Brandon Bridge has agreed to terms on a one-year contract with the Toronto Argonauts.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/23/canadian-qb-brandon-bridge-to-sign-with-toronto-argos/

So, someone in Toronto knows how to do a Bridge contract....


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 23, 2019, 09:23:21 PM
No need for an Olineman.  If they are willing to part with a starting Nat that has a 117-135k cap hit due to SMS woes, you don't want that guy. We have better / cheaper on our roster, and don't have to give anything up for them.

I don't think Solly is worth anything substantial in trade, depending on his contract.  But if he comes on the open market, could be worth a look at least....

We lost 2 starting Canadian OL. How do we know that Speller, Koczwara or Oullet De Carlo are better?

 Couture is already penciled in to start at center. Gray's ability to start right out of TC was suggested by Walters as not likely. We even heard that we may need to start 3 import OL as our best option.

It may be true that Foucault is not better but we certainly don't know we have better as of today.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 23, 2019, 09:38:27 PM
We lost 2 starting Canadian OL. How do we know that Speller, Koczwara or Oullet De Carlo are better?

 Couture is already penciled in to start at center. Gray's ability to start right out of TC was suggested by Walters as not likely. We even heard that we may need to start 3 import OL as our best option.

It may be true that Foucault is not better but we certainly don't know we have better as of today.
They're better cuz they play for us, duh.

Just like Focault is definitely worth being traded for if he was already here.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 23, 2019, 11:07:54 PM
They're better cuz they play for us, duh.

Just like Focault is definitely worth being traded for if he was already here.

Lol... we have a full quorum of OL, including development guys, as well as draft picks coming.  If Gray isn't ready when TC breaks, then we have Foketi ready to go until he is.  Means juggling the ratio a bit, but I'm confident that Gray is ready to start.  And there are still a lot of decent OL out there unsigned, if you just want a depth guy and don't want to trade an asset for him.  Focault was played at RG, which is the easiest position on the oline... he did manage to keep his starting spot, although Greaves was in at LG for a time...



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Tehedra on February 24, 2019, 01:53:17 AM
We lost 2 starting Canadian OL. How do we know that Speller, Koczwara or Oullet De Carlo are better?

 Couture is already penciled in to start at center. Gray's ability to start right out of TC was suggested by Walters as not likely. We even heard that we may need to start 3 import OL as our best option.

It may be true that Foucault is not better but we certainly don't know we have better as of today.

I thought we also lost Speller


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 24, 2019, 02:32:56 AM
Lol... we have a full quorum of OL, including development guys, as well as draft picks coming.  If Gray isn't ready when TC breaks, then we have Foketi ready to go until he is.  Means juggling the ratio a bit, but I'm confident that Gray is ready to start.  And there are still a lot of decent OL out there unsigned, if you just want a depth guy and don't want to trade an asset for him.  Focault was played at RG, which is the easiest position on the oline... he did manage to keep his starting spot, although Greaves was in at LG for a time...


You do realize Foketi starting at guard really isn't as rainbows and sunshine as you make it seem...right? It completely messes up the ratio, plus we have no clue if Foketi is a good guard. Keep in mind Hardrick is a better tackle than guard.

Focault played the "easiest position on the line". From a blocking standpoint you're wrong. From a responsibility standpoint you're correct, sorta.

I'm not arguing Focault is worth a first, because although he is a starting quality player, he isn't elite or close to it. He's around Neufeld territory, maybe a bit better. But if I could send a 3rd or 4th or sign him to an average deal, I would in a heartbeat.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 24, 2019, 02:56:07 AM
How about signing a Canadian free agent! Da!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 24, 2019, 03:07:20 AM
I thought we also lost Speller

That was Qadr Spooner, who was signed by Esks.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Tehedra on February 24, 2019, 04:05:07 AM
That was Qadr Spooner, who was signed by Esks.

Thanks MOAB! It must be all these SSSSs that is throwing me off.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 24, 2019, 04:50:45 AM
On Lionbackers they suggested Foucault's 2019 salary would be $117K + $18K in potential bonus. That's not as huge a salary as I imagined. OTOH they are expecting a 1st round pick back in trade.



Wowzers, BC is dumping Foucault at half the price of Chungh ($250,000 I believe) and is prepared to lose Soli in the process.  Penny for penny I don't see that as prudent use of S.M.S. budget considering the ratio stays the same.   Chungh may be the better player but if Foucault is a half-decent Natl. O-lineman which I believe he is, then I conclude Hervey went a little mad with his F.A. spending.  Chungh may provide consistent protection at his position but he's not a game-changer worthy of huge dollars imo.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 24, 2019, 05:39:50 AM
Thanks MOAB! It must be all these SSSSs that is throwing me off.

Yes, I'm stoked that I no longer have to remember if it's an "ell" or an "oon" in the middle of otherwise identical names.  How on earth do you get 2 NAT OL that have such similar names?

On second thought... I'm already forgetting which Sp---er we kept, so maybe this will be a problem for a few years...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 24, 2019, 03:19:31 PM
Lol... we have a full quorum of OL, including development guys, as well as draft picks coming.  If Gray isn't ready when TC breaks, then we have Foketi ready to go until he is.  Means juggling the ratio a bit, but I'm confident that Gray is ready to start.  And there are still a lot of decent OL out there unsigned, if you just want a depth guy and don't want to trade an asset for him.  Focault was played at RG, which is the easiest position on the oline... he did manage to keep his starting spot, although Greaves was in at LG for a time...



We have bodies but that's all we know. As I said we lost 2 starting OL and I should add we lost Loffler on defense. So that's 3 starting Canadians and you're suggesting starting Foketi and further hurting our ratio issues. I don't have a crystal ball to know who we draft or how game ready that player might be.

We drafted Spooner and choose to let him go.

Speller wasn't drafted and has been on the AR for 2 games. Gray for 1 game. Not sure how much time either got except possibly the last game of the season. At the moment one of them is likely our starting RG.

There are other Canadian OL available as free agents. Foucault is not at the top of my list but still not beyond consideration depending on what conversations the team may have had with other candidates.

Next you'll suggest we can just slide in Briggs or Gauthier at MLB to juggle the ratio to allow Foketi to start on a 3 import OL. From a skill set I would prefer him over others on our roster at this point in time. From a ratio point of view, I wouldn't.

The concern is that Walters or O'Shea said they may need to consider a 3 import OL.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 24, 2019, 03:31:02 PM
It blows me away how trivial some people think. We lost 3 very good NAT starters and some think we re just going to throw this guy in or draft that guy and he ll start and things will be ok. Ain?t gonna happen.

There s no 2 ways about it,  Our O line took a massive hit, it will be extremely tough to replace the talents of chungh and goosen, and as much as I hope their replacements are going to be ok, I think they will be ?B? level O linemen, the likes we had here a couple of years ago, and our Qb s are going to get hurt as a result.

We drafted Gray, as pedigree a NAT lineman as there is, he bounced around NFL camps and came back, and we don?t know if he?s ready to start. Spare me the bunk about some kid out of the CIS that?s going to walk on and perform as good as chungh and goosen, it isn?t going to happen, 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 24, 2019, 03:46:05 PM
How about signing a Canadian free agent! Da!

There are a couple worth considering. They might be in negotiations but we don't really know. At one point posters were suggesting Filer but he choose to stay put.

Choices are to add a free agent or trade. Foucault is a trade possibility being offered. Whether he's the best option we don't know. SMS and willingness to come to Winnipeg are part of the issue for any of the choices.

Waiting to see which Walters decides to go. There is still time but it's one of the top 2 questions. Possibly even more important than the receiver question. If we can't protect the QB's then better receivers won't help.

In fairness I've never seen any of our candidates practice so I can't really comment on anything more than their inexperience.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 24, 2019, 04:08:14 PM
I still wonder about the 3 Int Oline comment.  Was it a red herring?   A signal to Gray to up hius game, that his starting spot is not guaranteed, even at the cost of ratio?  There were plenty of Oline available in FA, yet we did not make a move, even with the loss of Chungh, Goossen and Spooner. We do have 4 Int oline on the roster right now with the addition of Briggs. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 24, 2019, 04:33:28 PM
I still wonder about the 3 Int Oline comment.  Was it a red herring?   A signal to Gray to up hius game, that his starting spot is not guaranteed, even at the cost of ratio?  There were plenty of Oline available in FA, yet we did not make a move, even with the loss of Chungh, Goossen and Spooner. We do have 4 Int oline on the roster right now with the addition of Briggs. 

I don't believe Walters works that way. Gray was never promised a starting spot as far as I'm concerned. He gets his money whether he starts or not. He might have some games started but that applies to many players.

It's puzzling that Walters didn't make a move but we don't know that he didn't try to make a move.

We may some rookie import OL to compete with Foketi for a role on the team. While Foketi is a good OL to keep around we have to do so on AR or DR at full salary. I suspect that's why he's stuck around. Bump him to PR and he probably leaves.

A rookie OL could be a PR role which results in an SMS savings.

Balancing the depth need and the question of SMS in total is difficult balancing need against money.

My initial thought is that Speller would be penciled in at RG to start the season while Gray develops. Unless we're forced to go 3 imports or we acquire a free agent.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 24, 2019, 06:10:23 PM
Still available in free agency:

1. Jon Gott. 33 years old and was a top OL. Probably expensive but still probably has some miles left. 145 career games.
2. Justin Sorensen 32 years old. Probably expensive. 151 career games.
3. Josiah St John. Only 26 and has upside but less experience than choices 1 or 2.
4. Cody Husband. 30 years old. 77 games played.

So several questions come to mind from the outside.

1. SMS hit
2. Role fit compared to need.
3. Where will Couture and Gray be best fit in the long run? Two of the above are long standing experience at Center.

Our DC must have a profile of each opponent OL. An understanding of strength and weaknesses. Where each of these free agents rank the team must have a solid opinion based on several seasons of game planning against each and reviewing game film.

I'd take a long hard look at Sorensen. He seemed to play at a very high level and hasn't had too many injuries. He's younger than S. Bryant and has played at Guard as well as Center. Question is SMS etc.

Josiah St John might have the most upside but the real question is what do we need now more? Upside or immediate ability to start for the early part or all of 2019?


Where Foucault ranks among these other players and SMS is also a question. He may be at the bottom or top depending on criteria used.

On the surface you'd think we'd like or prefer an OL with more experience to start at RG


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 24, 2019, 06:38:52 PM
When has sorenson ever played at s ?high level??? We were glad to see him go when he went to Edmonton and he wasn?t a standout up there either. Sasks O line is brutal do not sure how much value if any St. John would bring.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 24, 2019, 07:42:48 PM
When has sirens on ever played at s ?high level??? We were glad to see him go when he went to Edmonton and he wasn?t a standout up there either. Sasks O line is brutal do not sure how much value if any St. John would bring.

Sorenson was a bit like Neufeld. He got more playing time and became a better player. He was the starting Center in Edmonton and IMO played very well and is capable of playing multiple positions. Keep in mind we had also drafted Goossen and that made him expendable.

I'm not saying he's an all star but he's not a bad player and we're comparing choosing him over our inexperienced group.

A 1 year rental for the right price might not be the worst situation in the short term.

Player selection always comes down to a moment in time. Need versus cost. How much more time do Speller or Gray need before they can become starters? Is Couture currently better than Sorenson?

Re St John: Regina had horrible QB's but some reports were that he was becoming better towards the end of the season and he was a top draft pick. How is it we assume Gray will be good but St John won't? Both had NFL dreams and neither has exactly won full time starting roles. Both were very high draft picks.

I'm not sure I want either starting game 1. Upside sure but I see more of a need for a proven starter than another upside player. That's only because there is uncertainty about about 2 starting roles on our OL.

I also said R. Hall must have a " book " on each OL we play against. Where any of them rank against our own inexperienced players is just speculation at the moment.

Sorenson at Center and Couture at Guard might be a better option than we currently have on our roster.

Which free agent OL would you prefer more and what would you think the SMS versus talent difference might be? Not a huge amount of choices.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on February 24, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
Hard pass on Sorensen. He was not good when he was here.  While it?s true he improved his game in Edmonton, he has been the weakest link on their o-line, and he lost his starting position a couple of times due to poor performance.

And he can?t really play any other position.  Like every other NI who play OT in college, people dreamt about him as a ratio breaker, but it wasn?t to be.  He was inadequate at both G and OT, and center was his last chance.  I actually give him credit for the tenacity to carve out the career he has had.  I think he has too many miles on him, and signing him now would be like the last time we signed Picard.  It would not end well.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 24, 2019, 09:53:42 PM
Hard pass on Sorensen. He was not good when he was here.  While it?s true he improved his game in Edmonton, he has been the weakest link on their o-line, and he lost his starting position a couple of times due to poor performance.

And he can?t really play any other position.  Like every other NI who play OT in college, people dreamt about him as a ratio breaker, but it wasn?t to be.  He was inadequate at both G and OT, and center was his last chance.  I actually give him credit for the tenacity to carve out the career he has had.  I think he has too many miles on him, and signing him now would be like the last time we signed Picard.  It would not end well.

I never get the too many miles comment some posters make.

He's a month younger than S. Bryant. Both have been in the CFL since 2010. Sorenson has played 13 games more. Neither have had any significant injury issues.

He's no S. Bryant and some players performance falls quicker than others. That's not the point.

Of those potential free agents left, which might give us the best option from both a performance and cost evaluation.

We're not going to find a top Canadian OL left in free agency. Most have been around for quite awhile.

I'd expect Gray to progress to becoming a starter hopefully by mid season. If he doesn't then his selection might be classified as a bust. He'll be in year 2 of a 3 year deal?

The ultimate question is still how much of a drop will we experience at Center and RG with our current roster. Can we improve it in the short term while Gray gets up and running so to speak.

I'm not disputing that Sorenson might be a bad choice. I asked where posters would rank those available taking into account our need to a probable SMS hit.

OTOH I'm perfectly fine if Gray, Speller and the 2 2018 draft choices can step up and play well. It's just a concern after losing 2 quality OL and the uncertainty of the inexperience we have.

Others have said hard pass on Gott as well.

That leaves Husband ( 32 years old )  and St John or considering trading for Foucault.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on February 24, 2019, 10:30:42 PM
I never get the too many miles comment some posters make.

He's a month younger than S. Bryant. Both have been in the CFL since 2010. Sorenson has played 13 games more. Neither have had any significant injury issues.

He's no S. Bryant and some players performance falls quicker than others. That's not the point.



I'm not disputing that Sorenson might be a bad choice. I asked where posters would rank those available taking into account our need to a probable SMS hit.



It kind of is exactly the point that some age better than others.  You can?t just look at age, games played, or games missed due to injury.  We tend to look at those because they are numerical, and easiest to compare.  For an o lineman, the cumulative wear and tear can cause a player to lose flexibility and mobility, and it happens at different times for different guys.  Glenn January and Picard are examples of two excellent players who lost effectiveness pretty rapidly.  For a guy like Sorenson, who didn?t move as well as his peers to start with, there is little margin to work with.

Personally, I think Gott has more tread left on his tires than Sorenson.  But he?s a vet, and he has too much pride to play cheap.  I don?t hate the idea of Foucault, but the fact BC is trying to dump him in favour of Chung suggests he might play soft.  And he?s already 30.  St. John might be a good move, but I haven?t seen him play enough to be sure.

I don?t think it?s reasonable to expect Gray to be a starter this year.  If he isn?t in the hunt for a starting position by 2020, then we can start to get nervous.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 24, 2019, 11:26:43 PM
Sorensen's development into a starting centre was always a curiousity to me.  He has the size to play OT, but became an C, after being passed on as an OT and OG.  He always had edge, no doubt, he's scary.   At the right price, I don't think he's the worst pickup.  At the right price, to compete in TC for a spot and possibly not get 1 paycheck.  And I know, that's not the way this team works, if they sign you its because they want you for a purpose...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 24, 2019, 11:58:53 PM
It kind of is exactly the point that some age better than others.  You can?t just look at age, games played, or games missed due to injury.  We tend to look at those because they are numerical, and easiest to compare.  For an o lineman, the cumulative wear and tear can cause a player to lose flexibility and mobility, and it happens at different times for different guys.  Glenn January and Picard are examples of two excellent players who lost effectiveness pretty rapidly.  For a guy like Sorenson, who didn?t move as well as his peers to start with, there is little margin to work with.

Personally, I think Gott has more tread left on his tires than Sorenson.  But he?s a vet, and he has too much pride to play cheap.  I don?t hate the idea of Foucault, but the fact BC is trying to dump him in favour of Chung suggests he might play soft.  And he?s already 30.  St. John might be a good move, but I haven?t seen him play enough to be sure.

I don?t think it?s reasonable to expect Gray to be a starter this year.  If he isn?t in the hunt for a starting position by 2020, then we can start to get nervous.

Forget about Jon Gott, he's now 33 and his biggest accomplishment last season was crushing that beer can against his skull.  He lost his starting job in Aug. and only got back into action with the RB's later in the year due to an accumulation of injuries along their O-line. 

I would hope Walters now knows better than to pursue wily veterans well past their prime, doing so only pushes a "need" one year down the line before having to address the same problem all over again, Adarius Bowman should have been the exclamation point on this lesson.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on February 25, 2019, 02:12:45 AM
Exactly. If he didn't jump on camera to slam a beer, would anyone know who this guy is?? Surely we aren't this desperate are we??


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 25, 2019, 02:52:29 AM
Gott is a solid center. He would give us depth, experience, and time to bring along a younger Canadian at the center position.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 25, 2019, 11:16:37 AM
Sorensen and Greaves are not very good football players. Mthey have size and that's it.  Poor agility and slowwwww foot speed.

It's embarassing to witch them get beat every play..


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 25, 2019, 12:33:25 PM
Forget Sorenson or Gott. They are both players that their teams purposely moved on from because their play was declining. St. John is a bust as well. I like Couture and Gray over all of them.
If we are looking for a player that we might get a good deal on and would help a lot I hope that Walters checks in on Otha Foster.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 02:36:49 PM
It kind of is exactly the point that some age better than others.  You can?t just look at age, games played, or games missed due to injury.  We tend to look at those because they are numerical, and easiest to compare.  For an o lineman, the cumulative wear and tear can cause a player to lose flexibility and mobility, and it happens at different times for different guys.  Glenn January and Picard are examples of two excellent players who lost effectiveness pretty rapidly.  For a guy like Sorenson, who didn?t move as well as his peers to start with, there is little margin to work with.

Personally, I think Gott has more tread left on his tires than Sorenson.  But he?s a vet, and he has too much pride to play cheap.  I don?t hate the idea of Foucault, but the fact BC is trying to dump him in favour of Chung suggests he might play soft.  And he?s already 30.  St. John might be a good move, but I haven?t seen him play enough to be sure.

I don?t think it?s reasonable to expect Gray to be a starter this year.  If he isn?t in the hunt for a starting position by 2020, then we can start to get nervous.

That's obvious. It doesn't mean that a declining veteran might not still be " better " than the current alternatives on our roster.

It wouldn't be the 1st time a team brought in a veteran to stabilize and play while younger players develop.

I've already mentioned that Walters suggested Gray is not ready to start and we might need to start 3 import OL. That means our next choice up is a 2018 draft choice. If we have an injury to Neufeld or Couture, things get even more grim very quickly.

Are those the preferences that we're headed towards?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 25, 2019, 03:05:53 PM
That's obvious. It doesn't mean that a declining veteran might not still be " better " than the current alternatives on our roster.

It wouldn't be the 1st time a team brought in a veteran to stabilize and play while younger players develop.

I've already mentioned that Walters suggested Gray is not ready to start and we might need to start 3 import OL. That means our next choice up is a 2018 draft choice. If we have an injury to Neufeld or Couture, things get even more grim very quickly.

Are those the preferences that we're headed towards?


You forgot Speller, they kept him over Spooner for a reason.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on February 25, 2019, 03:09:37 PM
That's obvious. It doesn't mean that a declining veteran might not still be " better " than the current alternatives on our roster.

It wouldn't be the 1st time a team brought in a veteran to stabilize and play while younger players develop.

I've already mentioned that Walters suggested Gray is not ready to start and we might need to start 3 import OL. That means our next choice up is a 2018 draft choice. If we have an injury to Neufeld or Couture, things get even more grim very quickly.

Are those the preferences that we're headed towards?


On the one hand, you say it's "obvious" , but you started off by saying you didn't "get" how posters could be concerned about too many miles.  Make up your mind....

To spell it out, I think Gott or Foucault could add value to what we have (assuming they are affordable), and would be preferable to rushing Gray to start or going to a 3 IMP line and having to start Thomas/Forde on DL as a result.  I do not believe that Sorenson offers more value than those options, and if he is the best we can do, we might as well roll the dice.  Others may have differing opinions of course.  


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 03:46:18 PM
You forgot Speller, they kept him over Spooner for a reason.

I didn't forget him but he was an undrafted player and didn't see much game time. If Gray isn't starting then he might in fact be 1st up at RG while Gray is our # 6 OL.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 03:56:51 PM
On the one hand, you say it's "obvious" , but you started off by saying you didn't "get" how posters could be concerned about too many miles.  Make up your mind....

To spell it out, I think Gott or Foucault could add value to what we have (assuming they are affordable), and would be preferable to rushing Gray to start or going to a 3 IMP line and having to start Thomas/Forde on DL as a result.  I do not believe that Sorenson offers more value than those options, and if he is the best we can do, we might as well roll the dice.  Others may have differing opinions of course.  

It's a matter of context and timing. If we still had Goossen and Chungh those players would get zero consideration.

I've tried to make the point about our current alternatives not being strong. We've lost all star talent, cohesiveness and leadership.




You're taking the same position I'm trying to make that at the right price either of these older players could still be of value. Every player that has played for 6 or 7 years has more mileage on them but doesn't mean I'd use that term to categorize them.

It seems we disagree about Sorenson over Gott who did get less playing time more recently. OTOH Gott was a better player in his prime than Sorenson.

IMO it's too easy to say as any player takes more of a back seat role / back up that he has too much mileage. I attribute that more as a succession plan as teams manage SMS and player development.

I guess we'll see where any of these players land in 2018. It may be that none land in Winnipeg.






Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 25, 2019, 04:10:09 PM
A guy like Gott as an example should be considered IMO. Not because he is an allstar, not because we are desperate, not because he is better than what we have. But because he has experience. We lost two allstar Canadians and are looking at changes on the o-line, we have drafted well and appear to have many players "ready" to take it to the next step and step in for Chungh and Goosen. But what if one falters or gets knicked, or takes more time to be "be ready" then we expected. A guy like Gott would give us a little insurance, he could step in if needed even day one out of training camp, he has done it before. If the young guys beat him day 1 or 4 weeks into the season then it's great news for us and at that point he makes a great back-up. Heck if he get's really beat in TC he could even be released. But as of today we don't have any insurance on the line, and IMO we should


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 25, 2019, 04:36:10 PM
Bringing in a guy like Gott doesn't hurt. Worst case scenario, he gets our performed by rookies or younger guys and gets cut


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 25, 2019, 04:40:15 PM
NAT OL don't go anywhere without a good signing bonus. There is more risk to Gott than meets the eye.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
NAT OL don't go anywhere without a good signing bonus. There is more risk to Gott than meets the eye.

Exactly. The veteran Canadians even on the downside of their careers are still going to have salary expectations as well as the bonus issue.

The ultimate concern is what we have good enough to protect our QB's or are we forced to take a risk on one of the OL available in free agency.

I suppose we might draft an OL in the 1st round. Whether any of those draft choices are better than the 2018 choices ( they were lower picks 49th and 67th ) maybe. Whether they are starter ready, probably not.

The best hope is that Gray is ready early in the season if he's not ready immediately as was suggested.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 25, 2019, 04:48:41 PM
Exactly. The veteran Canadians even on the downside of their careers are still going to have salary expectations as well as the bonus issue.

The ultimate concern is what we have good enough to protect our QB's or are we forced to take a risk on one of the OL available in free agency.

I suppose we might draft an OL in the 1st round. Whether any of those draft choices are better than the 2018 choices ( they were lower picks ) maybe. Whether they are starter ready, probably not.



I don't know where we are going to go with our 1st rounders this year. I'm thinking one OL and one D player. There are a couple OL that are seen as pro ready much like Chungh was but I don't know if either fall to us or aren't in the NFL.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 25, 2019, 05:09:54 PM
I think guys like Sorensen and Gott are drooling at the fact they are top of the "when someone gets hurt" list.  It means missing some or all of TC, missing the part of th season that can kill an Olineman.  Literally. 

Teams will go though TC with their groups and in the case of someone not getting the job done, or getting injured, a vet Nat Olineman's phone rings.  SMS less of an issue now with a defined need rather than a potential upgrade.  And wear and tear avoided, which can be big down the stretch for long tooth Oline...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
I don't know where we are going to go with our 1st rounders this year. I'm thinking one OL and one D player. There are a couple OL that are seen as pro ready much like Chungh was but I don't know if either fall to us or aren't in the NFL.

Wasn't Gray seen as pro ready as well? Maybe Walters is snowing us a bit to not put un necessary pressure on a young new player.

I'd be more pleased if Gray could start over Speller just from the draft position of Gray and non drafted Speller.  That's just a theory of course and Speller might surprise but it takes a leap of faith to feel that right now.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 25, 2019, 05:19:23 PM
Wasn't Gray seen as pro ready as well? Maybe Walters is snowing us a bit to not put un necessary pressure on a young new player.

I'd be more pleased if Gray could start over Speller just from the draft position of Gray and non drafted Speller.  That's just a theory of course and Speller might surprise but it takes a leap of faith to feel that right now.

Actually Gray was not considered pro ready, but his measurables are off the charts. He's probably pro ready now after receiving NFL coaching for over a year.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 25, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
Wasn't Gray seen as pro ready as well? Maybe Walters is snowing us a bit to not put un necessary pressure on a young new player.

I'd be more pleased if Gray could start over Speller just from the draft position of Gray and non drafted Speller.  That's just a theory of course and Speller might surprise but it takes a leap of faith to feel that right now.

Speller will not win a starting position over Gray. That's just not in the realm of possibility imo. Our starting RG is going to be either Gray/Foketi with an outside chance of Couture if we draft Fontana and he is indeed ready at C.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 06:53:21 PM
Speller will not win a starting position over Gray. That's just not in the realm of possibility imo. Our starting RG is going to be either Gray/Foketi with an outside chance of Couture if we draft Fontana and he is indeed ready at C.

We've heard management say Gray was not ready to start and we've heard them say we might have to start 3 import OL. I agree Speller shouldn't be starting ahead of Gray but what else do we read into management's comments.

So where does that leave us since we can't predict our draft choice at # 4 & # 5. We can predict who we might want but not who might be available to pick or even how NFL opportunities develop for high possible draft picks.

I'm certainly not expecting the other 2 2018 draft picks to leap frog Gray and Speller.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on February 25, 2019, 07:29:14 PM
We've heard management say Gray was not ready to start and we've heard them say we might have to start 3 import OL. I agree Speller shouldn't be starting ahead of Gray but what else do we read into management's comments.

So where does that leave us since we can't predict our draft choice at # 4 & # 5. We can predict who we might want but not who might be available to pick or even how NFL opportunities develop for high possible draft picks.

I'm certainly not expecting the other 2 2018 draft picks to leap frog Gray and Speller.



I would expect any 1st round OL draft pick to leap frog Speller. He is a project.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 09:50:03 PM
I would expect any 1st round OL draft pick to leap frog Speller. He is a project.

Yes but wouldn't the 1st round pick also be somewhat of a project, just with higher upside and faster curve.

It still seems if we believe managements comments we are up against a rock and a hard place until something changes.

All this is making me lean more towards investigating Foucault more. Reports on Lionbackers suggested a $117K salary which might not be horrible if we only give up a low draft pick.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 25, 2019, 11:16:24 PM
Interesting. Argos released Plummer after re-signing him 2 weeks ago. Once they signed Awe a week afterwards it made Plummer expendable.

Also released J. Sears and C. Vaughn.

Always like Sears but he actually missed more games with injury than he ever got to play. Time for him to hang them up. He did play like there was no tomorrow.

Tomorrow just arrived. Good luck.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2019, 04:08:16 PM
Ti-Cats sign former Bombers, Riders INT RB Cam Marshall.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 26, 2019, 06:11:33 PM
Ti-Cats sign former Bombers, Riders INT RB Cam Marshall.

Good pickup to compensate for losing John White to BC in F.A., goes well with Alex Green and Sean Thomas Erlington a Natl..  Choosing Powell over Marshall won't make much of a difference for the Riders, RB's were the least of their problems.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 28, 2019, 03:49:12 PM
This is the end my friend....this is the end.

3DownNation
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Former #CalStampeders playmaker Roy Finch arrested, charged with kidnapping and domestic abuse https://3downnation.com/2019/02/28/former-stampeders-playmaker-roy-finch-arrested-charged-with-kidnapping-and-domestic-abuse/ ? #Calgary #CFL #Oklahoma #OKC


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 28, 2019, 04:22:11 PM
This is the end my friend....this is the end.

3DownNation
@3DownNation
Former #CalStampeders playmaker Roy Finch arrested, charged with kidnapping and domestic abuse https://3downnation.com/2019/02/28/former-stampeders-playmaker-roy-finch-arrested-charged-with-kidnapping-and-domestic-abuse/ ? #Calgary #CFL #Oklahoma #OKC

you're probably right... but, there is always three sides to every story... yours, mine, and the truth... lol...  if he did in fact punch his girlfriend (innocent until proven guilty standard here) there is no excuse for that, just isn't... however... if you go to a motel room with someone you are in a relationship with willingly, and then get into a argument with that person, and then are detained from leaving for a whole 20 mins yet seemingly allowed to be on your way after those 20 mins... kidnapping is a bit of a reach in my opinion...  assault, domestic abuse... yeah... kidnapping? not so sure...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 28, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
you're probably right... but, there is always three sides to every story... yours, mine, and the truth... lol...  if he did in fact punch his girlfriend (innocent until proven guilty standard here) there is no excuse for that, just isn't... however... if you go to a motel room with someone you are in a relationship with willingly, and then get into a argument with that person, and then are detained from leaving for a whole 20 mins yet seemingly allowed to be on your way after those 20 mins... kidnapping is a bit of a reach in my opinion...  assault, domestic abuse... yeah... kidnapping? not so sure...

Well, regardless of what the truth is there, any one of those charges would end his time with the league, I think.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 28, 2019, 04:38:17 PM
you're probably right... but, there is always three sides to every story... yours, mine, and the truth... lol...  if he did in fact punch his girlfriend (innocent until proven guilty standard here) there is no excuse for that, just isn't... however... if you go to a motel room with someone you are in a relationship with willingly, and then get into a argument with that person, and then are detained from leaving for a whole 20 mins yet seemingly allowed to be on your way after those 20 mins... kidnapping is a bit of a reach in my opinion...  assault, domestic abuse... yeah... kidnapping? not so sure...

The kidnapping charge does seem far-fetched but the domestic abuse charge pretty well seals his fate as far as the CFL goes, the league probably wouldn't allow any teams to pursue him even if they wanted to.  Unless he wants to spend a fortune in legal fees taking it to trial, he'll probably just plead guilty to get it over with.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 28, 2019, 05:38:42 PM
Well, regardless of what the truth is there, any one of those charges would end his time with the league, I think.

I think he pretty much sealed his fate last year with the drug charges and resisting arrest charges... and if he didn't then, any sort of conviction of these type of charges will most undoubtedly make it a done deal... it seems like when these guys get on this downward spiral it just spins out of control...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 01, 2019, 06:43:27 AM
kidnapping is a bit of a reach in my opinion...  assault, domestic abuse... yeah... kidnapping? not so sure...

I won't speak to Finch... but I've watched more than enough Cops to know that all you have to do to get charged with kidnapping is impede or intimidate the victim from leaving.  Could be leaving the room, or the apt, or house.  All you have to do is stand in front of the door and not let them open it, or scare them from coming close.  You don't even have to touch anybody.  It can also be physical, like hugging someone and not letting them go when they say they want to go, but otherwise not hurting them.

"Kidnapping" invokes images of dead Lindburgh babies and such, but it is basically near-meaningless charge meant to turn the screws on the perp and lay on extra charges and turn public opinion against them.  Works well, too.

In Finch's case, the assault is the real charge.  "Kidnapping" is just gravy.

And yes, that's it for Finch in the CFL.  Kind of sad, but not surprising.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Horseman on March 01, 2019, 01:54:27 PM
I won't speak to Finch... but I've watched more than enough Cops to know that all you have to do to get charged with kidnapping is impede or intimidate the victim from leaving.  Could be leaving the room, or the apt, or house.  All you have to do is stand in front of the door and not let them open it, or scare them from coming close.  You don't even have to touch anybody.  It can also be physical, like hugging someone and not letting them go when they say they want to go, but otherwise not hurting them.

"Kidnapping" invokes images of dead Lindburgh babies and such, but it is basically near-meaningless charge meant to turn the screws on the perp and lay on extra charges and turn public opinion against them.  Works well, too.

In Finch's case, the assault is the real charge.  "Kidnapping" is just gravy.

And yes, that's it for Finch in the CFL.  Kind of sad, but not surprising.


Oh so you're a self taught police officer/prosecutor/district attorney and received your Phd from watching a TV show, cool!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on March 01, 2019, 02:00:06 PM
He?s just offering up his opinion based on what he knows?-which is exactly what the rest of us do. No need to slam him. Chill


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on March 01, 2019, 02:23:04 PM
Montreal Alouettes announced on Friday that the club has re-signed veteran offensive lineman Luc Brodeur-Jourdain to a new one-year-deal.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 01, 2019, 03:05:15 PM
I think he pretty much sealed his fate last year with the drug charges and resisting arrest charges... and if he didn't then, any sort of conviction of these type of charges will most undoubtedly make it a done deal... it seems like when these guys get on this downward spiral it just spins out of control...

He was done officially by the league last year when he punched a cop in the face. This just eliminates any slim possibility of re-instatement he had.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: bluebeard on March 01, 2019, 04:07:07 PM
I won't speak to Finch... but I've watched more than enough Cops to know that all you have to do to get charged with kidnapping is impede or intimidate the victim from leaving.  Could be leaving the room, or the apt, or house.  All you have to do is stand in front of the door and not let them open it, or scare them from coming close.  You don't even have to touch anybody.  It can also be physical, like hugging someone and not letting them go when they say they want to go, but otherwise not hurting them.

"Kidnapping" invokes images of dead Lindburgh babies and such, but it is basically near-meaningless charge meant to turn the screws on the perp and lay on extra charges and turn public opinion against them.  Works well, too.

In Finch's case, the assault is the real charge.  "Kidnapping" is just gravy.

And yes, that's it for Finch in the CFL.  Kind of sad, but not surprising.

Sounds like an agenda here.  Cop hate?  Either that or you are talking American law or watching to much TV movies.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on March 01, 2019, 04:30:02 PM
I don't know why anyone here is trying to figure out or imply what happened. He got arrested. That's all we know. Stuff like this isn't something one should hypothesize. The police did what they did and we will see what comes of it.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on March 01, 2019, 09:37:44 PM
Agreed. Who know and who cares. There?s more gossiping going on, it?s like high school all over!! Who cares, move on


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 03, 2019, 09:12:16 AM
Sounds like an agenda here.  Cop hate?  Either that or you are talking American law or watching to much TV movies.

a) I love the cops, my worst infraction ever is a 15km-over speeding ticket.  I'm good friends with a cop vet of 30 years.
b) yes, I'm talking American law since we are talking Finch here and I'm pretty sure his crime occurred in the US.
c) see below

Oh so you're a self taught police officer/prosecutor/district attorney and received your Phd from watching a TV show, cool!

I've watched every single episode of Cops since day 1.  Yes, that's a massive waste of time, but I got hooked on the show as a teen.  In case you never watched it, it's unscripted, un-narrated, just plain real/raw, and you 100% learn a ton from it when you watch enough.  God forbid I ever have a run in with the cops I know full well what to not say and not do, and I'll be wise to their tricks (yes, they use tricks, it's their job).

And one thing you learn fast, since domestic abuse is the #1 call they get and show, is all the tricks the cops will use to lay on as many charges as possible on the saps.  They are masters at turning about half of domestics into a kidnapping, just by carefully worded questions and leading the victim's description of the situation.  In 95% of those "kidnaps", 95% of us would not call what they are describing "kidnapping" (i.e. no kids, no napping, no physical restraint, etc.).

So rip on me if you want, but maybe watch the show first, I'll bet you if you watch 3 episodes that at least one will contain a "kidnap".  Heck, it might be Finch on that episode!!  :o  And I bet if you hunt down future court transcripts for Finch you'll see the kidnapping was likely minor, bogus, or dropped.

He?s just offering up his opinion based on what he knows?-which is exactly what the rest of us do. No need to slam him. Chill

Thanks dd!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on March 03, 2019, 02:00:34 PM
No problem.

It?s one thing to disagree with an opinion, it?s another to disrespectfully slam it. If you can?t offer up your counter opinion, and that?s all it is is an opinion, then don?t reply at all. Pretty simple rule to follow


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Horseman on March 03, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
a) I love the cops, my worst infraction ever is a 15km-over speeding ticket.  I'm good friends with a cop vet of 30 years.
b) yes, I'm talking American law since we are talking Finch here and I'm pretty sure his crime occurred in the US.
c) see below

I've watched every single episode of Cops since day 1.  Yes, that's a massive waste of time, but I got hooked on the show as a teen.  In case you never watched it, it's unscripted, un-narrated, just plain real/raw, and you 100% learn a ton from it when you watch enough.  God forbid I ever have a run in with the cops I know full well what to not say and not do, and I'll be wise to their tricks (yes, they use tricks, it's their job).

And one thing you learn fast, since domestic abuse is the #1 call they get and show, is all the tricks the cops will use to lay on as many charges as possible on the saps.  They are masters at turning about half of domestics into a kidnapping, just by carefully worded questions and leading the victim's description of the situation.  In 95% of those "kidnaps", 95% of us would not call what they are describing "kidnapping" (i.e. no kids, no napping, no physical restraint, etc.).

So rip on me if you want, but maybe watch the show first, I'll bet you if you watch 3 episodes that at least one will contain a "kidnap".  Heck, it might be Finch on that episode!!  :o  And I bet if you hunt down future court transcripts for Finch you'll see the kidnapping was likely minor, bogus, or dropped.

Thanks dd!


No need to watch it, I lived it for 28 years, and it makes us laugh when we deal with these self taught people who think they know the law, such as self taught police officers and self taught lawyers who get their so called knowledge from watching a TV show. Priceless!!!!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on March 03, 2019, 06:50:23 PM
And yet, most football fans get their knowledge from watching the game. I guess they should sit in silence and only let the ?experts? talk about it. That would mean we should shut this forum down immediately. How silly is that???


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Horseman on March 03, 2019, 07:03:44 PM
And yet, most football fans get their knowledge from watching the game. I guess they should sit in silence and only let the ?experts? talk about it. That would mean we should shut this forum down immediately. How silly is that???

That has nothing to do with people pointing out flawed thinking and spouting off about their information because they watched a TV show and feel they are now experts, no different to how you react to Ards when he posts something. Perhaps people on here should not try to make Ards out to be ill informed by your way of thinking. And by the way, it is more entertaining to listen to the experts talk about football than what is written here at times.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 04, 2019, 06:52:25 AM
No need to watch it, I lived it for 28 years, and it makes us laugh when we deal with these self taught people who think they know the law, such as self taught police officers and self taught lawyers who get their so called knowledge from watching a TV show. Priceless!!!!

Thanks for serving!  I'll guess that you served in Canada, and I acknowledged in the last post that I'm talking strictly about the USA.  I'm sure Canada cops don't get up to as much chicanery as the US ones do.  I've watched "To Serve And Protect" (basically Cops in Surrey) and it's booooring the Cops are so nice and non-violent.  Completely different attitude from our US neighbours.

That has nothing to do with people pointing out flawed thinking and spouting off about their information because they watched a TV show and feel they are now experts, no different to how you react to Ards when he posts something. Perhaps people on here should not try to make Ards out to be ill informed by your way of thinking.

I've literally seen 200+ instances of guys on Cops getting arrested for kidnapping for just blocking the door for 1 minute or something like that.  If we agree the show is real and not fiction, then the fact I saw it means it too must be real.  I guess it's unprovable unless you drive down south and ask some Cops what their standard for kidnapping is.

Here's the only instance of black & white proof of what I say I could quickly find; an actual Utah court document:
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ut-court-of-appeals/1695823.html  read point #4; it's a horrible crime, but he got "kidnapping" tacked on for blocking the door briefly.

I'm going to make a little note and in a few months/year I'll follow up to see if court documents are available for Finch and see exactly what the kidnapping was and if it stuck.  Just for fun.

Until then, I won't continue in the discussion because it's way off-topic and boring people to death, I'm sure.  You can have the final word.  The only reason I ever brought it up is to try to bring balance to the Finch news so people don't think he's some crazed guy killing children.  Not defending the guy: he's a creep; but balance is usually warranted when we're talking USA legal charges.

And by the way, it is more entertaining to listen to the experts talk about football than what is written here at times.

Funny that you read the forum so much then!  We have I think one guy here who was pro(?) (he's our "expert"), a few/bunch that were mid-level, and I'm guessing a lot who played in high-school.  Hardly filled with "experts"... so why don't you just read the bb.com main site and stick to Tait articles?  Sounds like a weird thing to complain about: "I went to the fan forum and it was just a bunch of fans and amateurs talking in non-expert ways!".  :o :o   Nooooo....

I say if a post here is half literate, non-abusive, and references the CFL, it's met the bar for a Bomber forum post.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: pjrocksmb on March 05, 2019, 03:09:15 AM
Good pickup to compensate for losing John White to BC in F.A., goes well with Alex Green and Sean Thomas Erlington a Natl..  Choosing Powell over Marshall won't make much of a difference for the Riders, RB's were the least of their problems.

agree a solid signing and looking forward to watching him


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 05, 2019, 04:55:50 AM
Being knowledgeable on a specific sport is nowhere even remotely near the same as being knowledgeable on a country's legal system. What an utterly atrocious false equivalence.

By absolutely no means whatsoever does watching Cops or Live PD make one knowledgeable on the intricacies and complexities of a legal system. By that logic, any schmuck who's sat in an operating theatre should know how to perform surgery. See how absurd that sounds?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 05, 2019, 08:15:11 AM
By absolutely no means whatsoever does watching Cops or Live PD make one knowledgeable on the intricacies and complexities of a legal system

Argh, it's not complexities, it's basic heuristics!  Can't one learn from watching 500 examples of people being pulled over for a broken tail-light the simple fact that a broken tail-light can get you pulled over?  This isn't rocket science.  What you are suggesting is that people can learn nothing of value from the show!  And that is what is atrocious.

Of course we learn by watching, whether football or Cops.  Anything non-fiction can teach you.  I've learned by watching CFL that when D is blitz-heavy you throw screen passes.  See, simple heuristic.  From Cops: Never block a SO from leaving your house.  See, simple heuristic.  I never claimed expert or intricate knowledge!  This is basic stuff.  Nice strawman, BTW.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on March 05, 2019, 12:12:49 PM
Montreal Alouettes announced on Monday that the club has re-signed veteran international defensive back Jermaine Robinson and international receiver T.J. Graham. Both signed two-year deals with the team.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on March 05, 2019, 01:59:36 PM
I've watched every episode of Game Of Thrones, so I'm a dragon expert. ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Horseman on March 05, 2019, 03:10:03 PM
I have watched every episode on plastic surgery gone wrong. I have even opened my own clinic out of my garage because I know so much...in case anyone wants a free consultation.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 05, 2019, 03:25:54 PM
I have watched every episode on plastic surgery gone wrong. I have even opened my own clinic out of my garage because I know so much...in case anyone wants a free consultation.

I could use a tummy tuck. I'll PM you.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Jesse on March 05, 2019, 04:08:38 PM
Being knowledgeable on a specific sport is nowhere even remotely near the same as being knowledgeable on a country's legal system. What an utterly atrocious false equivalence.

By absolutely no means whatsoever does watching Cops or Live PD make one knowledgeable on the intricacies and complexities of a legal system. By that logic, any schmuck who's sat in an operating theatre should know how to perform surgery. See how absurd that sounds?

I also disagree with the "aristocracy of knowledge" where certain professions are dismissive of those who don't have their education or experience.

There are many ways to gain knowledge and not being a member of a certain group doesn't mean you are completely ignorant of a subject. Just like anything posted on here, argue the post, not the poster. If Tecno said something that is incorrect, tell him why it's incorrect. Don't dismiss him entirely because of where he got his info.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 05, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
I have watched every episode on plastic surgery gone wrong. I have even opened my own clinic out of my garage because I know so much...in case anyone wants a free consultation.

So, most amateur plastic surgeons tend to have things go wrong... so if you study plastic surgery gone wrong, and get it wrong, does that mean it will come out right?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on March 05, 2019, 05:13:15 PM
Former CFL receiver Terrell Sinkfield has been released by the Orlando Apollos of the Alliance of American Football League.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 05, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
Argh, it's not complexities, it's basic heuristics!  Can't one learn from watching 500 examples of people being pulled over for a broken tail-light the simple fact that a broken tail-light can get you pulled over?  This isn't rocket science.  What you are suggesting is that people can learn nothing of value from the show!  And that is what is atrocious.

Of course we learn by watching, whether football or Cops.  Anything non-fiction can teach you.  I've learned by watching CFL that when D is blitz-heavy you throw screen passes.  See, simple heuristic.  From Cops: Never block a SO from leaving your house.  See, simple heuristic.  I never claimed expert or intricate knowledge!  This is basic stuff.  Nice strawman, BTW.

Having a basic and/or practical knowledge of something by watching it on TV is a totally reasonable statement to make, whether it's watching a football play, a hockey play, an arrest taking place, forging a blade, baking a cake, or performing surgery. At no point did I imply nothing of value can be taken from watching a TV show, be it fiction or non-fiction.

I'm sure you understand how the law functions from a practical standpoint. Does that mean you know why a police officer acted how he did or laid the charge(s) he did? I'd say no. That's why there is a legal process and it's a very complicated one.

I apologize if you took offense to my post. That was not my intention.

I also disagree with the "aristocracy of knowledge" where certain professions are dismissive of those who don't have their education or experience.

There are many ways to gain knowledge and not being a member of a certain group doesn't mean you are completely ignorant of a subject. Just like anything posted on here, argue the post, not the poster. If Tecno said something that is incorrect, tell him why it's incorrect. Don't dismiss him entirely because of where he got his info.

Show me where I went after the poster. Unless you think pointing out a false equivalence is somehow an ad hominem. (it isn't - the law is far more complex than a sport)

And there's no "aristocracy of knowledge"... Where do you even come up with such an absurd notion? Ignorance has nothing to do with it, either. There's a reason lawyers, surgeons, scientists, etc. have to get an education and gain experience when it comes to their respective field: because they are extremely complex. I won't necessarily apply that to LEOs as a whole but most reputable agencies require their officers to be properly trained and equipped with the knowledge required to perform their duties.

I'm not trying to dismiss anybody, BTW. What I am saying is ongoing legal matters are extremely complicated and an outsider trying to claim they know what's what isn't reasonable, regardless of their actual or perceived level of knowledge on that particular matter or the discipline/field under which it falls.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on March 05, 2019, 05:46:00 PM
Former CFL receiver Terrell Sinkfield has been released by the Orlando Apollos of the Alliance of American Football League.

Not sure if we'd have any interest. That said he has played both receiver and DB so that versatility is interesting. OTOH, can't retain a position in the AAF? Not a good sign.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 05, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
Anyone can have an opinion, just don't try selling it based on your legal knowledge garnered from a TV show. I've watched COPS for years but fully realize I don't know jack about how the police decide what charge to lay. Half the time the cops themselves don't know until consulting with a crown or a DA in the US.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on March 07, 2019, 05:04:42 PM
A rough count of free agent activity: Some transactions haven't been updated etc.

1. 76 players have changed teams
2. 17 players have been released, mostly for NFL or AAF opportunities
3. 25 retirements although a few actually retired in 2017

Still about 63 - 67 free agents left. Not much activity happening at the moment with those players. Several I expect will fall into retirement by choice or not getting contract offers.

We're going to need new player rosters for each team going into 2019 to figure out all these changes. lol

BC: 7
Edm: 11
Mont: 8
Ott: 7
Tor: 6
Ham: 9
Wpg: 7
Regina: 6
Cgy: 4



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 07, 2019, 05:18:12 PM
Tristan Jackson just signed with SSK.. good pickup, he was a beast.


Oh, a one day deal to retire a Rider...  nevermind.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on March 07, 2019, 05:38:13 PM
Dressler will be the next one to sign for one day.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on March 19, 2019, 03:44:42 PM
CFL Headlines
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23m23 minutes ago

Riders sign 2018 first round pick, OL Dakoda Shepley: Canadian offensive lineman has been signed by the Saskatchewan Roughriders. Shepley was selected fifth overall pick in the 2018 CFL Draft by the Riders. Saskatchewan chose Shepley...

dlvr.it/R17nlW  via @3DownNation


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: BBRT on March 19, 2019, 06:22:38 PM
CFL Headlines
‏ @CFL_Headlines
23m23 minutes ago

Riders sign 2018 first round pick, OL Dakoda Shepley: Canadian offensive lineman has been signed by the Saskatchewan Roughriders. Shepley was selected fifth overall pick in the 2018 CFL Draft by the Riders. Saskatchewan chose Shepley...

dlvr.it/R17nlW  via @3DownNation

That is a huge signing for them. They guy is a beast and will certainly fit well with the Rider OL scheme of things.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 19, 2019, 06:30:29 PM
Shepley is a good prospect that should be a good starter in a year or two. He's no Geoff Gray but he is desperately needed in the vacuous mess that is the Riders OL.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on March 19, 2019, 06:33:47 PM
Yeah a good signing of a draft pick, but lasted less in NFL than Gray, and is by no means a lock to start. or even make the roster, tho the Rider's are very weak and thin there with it looking like St John not being back...and Bladek re-habbing an ACL repair so no real isea if and when he will be back and ready, to go with a lousy Clarke and rapidly declining/injury prone Labatte, and 2 pedestrian Tackles...I don't see a whole lotta help there for whomever wins..or should I say gets the starting QB spot there by default..


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 19, 2019, 06:33:58 PM
That is a huge signing for them. They guy is a beast and will certainly fit well with the Rider OL scheme of things.

What pray tell is the Rider OL scheme of things? Last year there scheme was el Matador, until their QB could take no more, then 3 yard passes without any scores, so he would not hit the turf anymore.
 Are you suggesting he is also a pylon?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 19, 2019, 06:37:35 PM
Yeah a good signing of a draft pick, but lasted less in NFL than Gray, and is by no means a lock to start. or even make the roster, tho the Rider's are very weak and thin there with it looking like St John not being back...and Bladek re-habbing an ACL repair so no real isea if and when he will be back and ready, to go with a lousy Clarke and rapidly declining/injury prone Labatte, and 2 pedestrian Tackles...I don't see a whole lotta help there for whomever wins..or should I say gets the starting QB spot there by default..

The sad part is that Collaros got concussed multiple times even though the offence was only throwing 3 yard passes on every passing down.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on March 19, 2019, 06:40:45 PM
All Shepley has proven is he was a good CIS player...got a very brief sniff down south...but who doesn't these days and has acted...and not sure what the Rider scheme is, but it sure sucked


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 19, 2019, 06:42:42 PM
All Shepley has proven is he was a good CIS player...got a very brief sniff down south...but who doesn't these days and has acted...and not sure what the Rider scheme is, but it sure sucked

Shepley is all measurables right now. Very high ceiling if he ever achieves it, but he is almost definitely not pro ready...at least according to his scouting report.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on March 20, 2019, 11:34:08 AM
All Shepley has proven is he was a good CIS player...got a very brief sniff down south...but who doesn't these days and has acted...and not sure what the Rider scheme is, but it sure sucked
More or less can say the same of Gray


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 20, 2019, 11:53:34 AM
More or less can say the same of Gray

Gray received a full year of NFL OL training under Bob Wylie. Further to that, he was not viewed as much of a project as Shepley was. Their strengths and weaknesses are different. Gray was considered far more pro ready than Shepley was in his draft year. Shepley is a boy amongst men but has trouble with footwork and struggled with missing assignments in pass pro in U. Gray was considered a very cerebral OL, that is great in pass pro.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: booch on March 20, 2019, 12:12:53 PM
More or less can say the same of Gray

Yes and no....as Gray hasn't proven anything up in Canada yet, but as GCn18 said, Gray has had more NFL time and training as he was viewed as in more of an actual prospect type as opposed to a project like Shepley, and was also more higly regarded coming out of College than Shepley, not to mention Gray has been involved now with his CFL team since the last few games of last year.

Gray has more of a chance to start this year than Shepley, and has a better foundation in his o-line here in Winnipeg to learn and play with than whats going on in Ssk...man they throw him to the wolves there this year with their supporting cast and lack of an offence and they could just ruin him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on March 20, 2019, 12:17:07 PM
Yes and no....as Gray hasn't proven anything up in Canada yet, but as GCn18 said, Gray has had more NFL time and training as he was viewed as in more of an actual prospect type as opposed to a project like Shepley, and was also more higly regarded coming out of College than Shepley, not to mention Gray has been involved now with his CFL team since the last few games of last year.

Gray has more of a chance to start this year than Shepley, and has a better foundation in his o-line here in Winnipeg to learn and play with than whats going on in Ssk...man they throw him to the wolves there this year with their supporting cast and lack of an offence and they could just ruin him.

Ruin him and would almost certainly end the career of Zac Collaros.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 24, 2019, 02:13:51 PM
Wasn't Shepley on the Riders PR last year?  Doesn't that make him a FA once the season ends?  Or is it different with DP's?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on March 24, 2019, 07:34:45 PM
Wasn't Shepley on the Riders PR last year?  Doesn't that make him a FA once the season ends?  Or is it different with DP's?
No, because I'm pretty sure he never signed


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2019, 11:08:00 PM
I don't think he ever officially signed a contract last year with the Riders.

This contract is for two years, through the 2020 season. IIRC, there's also an option for 2021.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on March 25, 2019, 02:39:26 PM
Unsigned draft picks are allowed to visit selected team for an evaluation, meeting coaching staff and seeing facilities for a 3 or 5 day period.

This is what the Riders did with Shepley last year.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on April 01, 2019, 04:00:42 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have agreed to terms with Canadian kicker and punter Lirim Hajrullahu.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 01, 2019, 05:06:56 PM
Unsigned draft picks are allowed to visit selected team for an evaluation, meeting coaching staff and seeing facilities for a 3 or 5 day period.

This is what the Riders did with Shepley last year.



Unsigned draft picks can do whatever they want. They are not under contract. Neither was Shepley,


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 01, 2019, 05:07:53 PM
I don't think he ever officially signed a contract last year with the Riders.

This contract is for two years, through the 2020 season. IIRC, there's also an option for 2021.

Shepley, like any other player signed after August 2018, will have an NFL window this offseason.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 01, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
I don't think he ever officially signed a contract last year with the Riders.

This contract is for two years, through the 2020 season. IIRC, there's also an option for 2021.

No, two year contract with the option year being 2020. The NFL window is now open to all entry level contracts after year one of the two year minimum contract and is now being labelled as the "option year" again.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on April 01, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
Unsigned draft picks can do whatever they want. They are not under contract. Neither was Shepley,

Not quite accurate.  An unsigned draft pick can't practice with the team or attend team meetings until he signs a contract.  I think when the Riders brought Shepley in last year for a visit, some people mistakenly thought that he had signed, when he was just in for one of these evaluation visits. 

I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall we may have brought Gray in for one of these visits while he was still bouncing around NFL practice rosters. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on April 02, 2019, 08:40:16 PM
Four-time All-Star Fred Stamps has signed a one-day contract to retire with the Edmonton Eskimo Football Club.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on April 03, 2019, 01:01:14 AM
Stamps was a heck of a players in this prime.  Hands, good route runner and great ability to get open.  Glad he is getting his well-deserved recognition.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 03, 2019, 11:16:35 AM
Not quite accurate.  An unsigned draft pick can't practice with the team or attend team meetings until he signs a contract.  I think when the Riders brought Shepley in last year for a visit, some people mistakenly thought that he had signed, when he was just in for one of these evaluation visits. 

I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall we may have brought Gray in for one of these visits while he was still bouncing around NFL practice rosters. 

Not what I meant. I was referring to Aards comment about how Shepley was able to look at the NFL this offseason. My point was that he could because he was never under contract. Looking back through the thread it seems I mistakenly quoted Ridermania instead of Aards. My bad.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 04, 2019, 05:43:23 PM
About half of the remaining CFL free agents are 30+ years old. Doesn't mean they can't play or won't play but odds are not good. Age and SMS are against most of them. There have been very few signings from the list in the last month. A few but things have dropped off the map so to speak.

Should be a bunch of retirements announced in the next couple of weeks?

I still have some interest in Jesse Joseph and Chris Ackie however it doesn't appear they are in our plans.





Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on April 04, 2019, 11:44:54 PM
A couple of 30+ FA's off the list... Olafioye and Husband both retire... 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 05, 2019, 01:48:24 PM
About half of the remaining CFL free agents are 30+ years old. Doesn't mean they can't play or won't play but odds are not good. Age and SMS are against most of them. There have been very few signings from the list in the last month. A few but things have dropped off the map so to speak.

Should be a bunch of retirements announced in the next couple of weeks?

I still have some interest in Jesse Joseph and Chris Ackie however it doesn't appear they are in our plans.





Teams will start taking some of these guys off the board closer to TC. Right now the teams are waiting to see what their scouts turn up for  talent. I can't imagine that a team like BC will go into the season without some more experience on defence. If they do they will have to put up 50 points a game because their D talent level right now is absolutely brutal.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on April 05, 2019, 02:56:12 PM
Teams will start taking some of these guys off the board closer to TC. Right now the teams are waiting to see what their scouts turn up for  talent. I can't imagine that a team like BC will go into the season without some more experience on defence. If they do they will have to put up 50 points a game because their D talent level right now is absolutely brutal.

Close to TC, or during / after?  Hard to see exactly what you've brought in until you get them in against your regulars at a full TC...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 05, 2019, 03:00:40 PM
Teams will start taking some of these guys off the board closer to TC. Right now the teams are waiting to see what their scouts turn up for  talent. I can't imagine that a team like BC will go into the season without some more experience on defence. If they do they will have to put up 50 points a game because their D talent level right now is absolutely brutal.

...and what will they do with Solly, they were shopping him earlier with no takers, so good chance he takes a cut or becomes a payroll casualty.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 05, 2019, 03:33:11 PM
Close to TC, or during / after?  Hard to see exactly what you've brought in until you get them in against your regulars at a full TC...

They'll definitely bring the young guys to camp but I see no circumstance where they are starting 8 rookie/backups on their D this year and that's what their roster is dictating right now. IF their SMS allows they would be absolute fools not to bring in a few value but experienced FA's on defence or all the Mike Reilly's in the world won't win them games.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 05, 2019, 03:34:55 PM
...and what will they do with Solly, they were shopping him earlier with no takers, so good chance he takes a cut or becomes a payroll casualty.

I think it's pretty obvious that Solly is going to be cut.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 05, 2019, 04:19:53 PM
I think it's pretty obvious that Solly is going to be cut.

He'll find a new team quickly. I just hope its on an eastern team. I can't seem an SMS solution or practicality for him joining the Bombers. However, that said he'd be a valuable addition at either WIL or as a DI.

He'd have to take a massive cut in salary. One advantage the Bombers have is the number of players he's familiar with from playing in BC.

Realistically I think Calgary or Edmonton might be searching for a new MLB but like I said: Go east young man, go way east. lol



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 05, 2019, 04:50:17 PM
He'll find a new team quickly. I just hope its on an eastern team. I can't seem an SMS solution or practicality for him joining the Bombers. However, that said he'd be a valuable addition at either WIL or as a DI.

He'd have to take a massive cut in salary. One advantage the Bombers have is the number of players he's familiar with from playing in BC.

Realistically I think Calgary or Edmonton might be searching for a new MLB but like I said: Go east young man, go way east. lol



I doubt Edmonton is in the market. Larry Dean is a top notch MLB.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 05, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
He'll find a new team quickly. I just hope its on an eastern team. I can't seem an SMS solution or practicality for him joining the Bombers. However, that said he'd be a valuable addition at either WIL or as a DI.

He'd have to take a massive cut in salary. One advantage the Bombers have is the number of players he's familiar with from playing in BC.

Realistically I think Calgary or Edmonton might be searching for a new MLB but like I said: Go east young man, go way east. lol

Who do the Stamps have to replace Singleton?  You'd think they would be all over Solly.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 05, 2019, 05:42:03 PM
I doubt Edmonton is in the market. Larry Dean is a top notch MLB.

I forgot they signed Dean so scratch them off the list. Although Calgary has an opening Huff doesn't usually go to the CFL free agent market beyond his own players.

So openings are going to be limited for a starting role compared to the SMS hit to sign Mo.

That may influence him to seek a renegotiation in Vancouver rather than moving elsewhere for the same money.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: 66 Chevelle on April 06, 2019, 01:29:25 AM
let's say that BC has spent their SMS nut and they do have to cut Solly prior to the season starting... is there a scenario that could make him a Bomber?  I mean after all, with the roster movement the Bombers have had this off season, you'd have to think that we have a little cap room available...  so if no receivers become available between now and the start of the season would we consider going after him and then wait to see what may become available receiver wise after the NFL cuts and then make that tough decision?

you'd have to believe that the Bombers would have the best defense out there, at least on paper anyway... maybe the offense is a little down on fire power, but we would be anyway if we don't come up with a receiver before then, that our best bet may be to not out score them offensively, but, keep them from scoring more than what we're able to put up on the scoreboard due to a stout defense?  more stops equal more opportunities for our offense... more opportunities may help Nichols find his 2017 form easier or quicker...

just a thought...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 06, 2019, 01:36:23 PM
let's say that BC has spent their SMS nut and they do have to cut Solly prior to the season starting... is there a scenario that could make him a Bomber?  I mean after all, with the roster movement the Bombers have had this off season, you'd have to think that we have a little cap room available...  so if no receivers become available between now and the start of the season would we consider going after him and then wait to see what may become available receiver wise after the NFL cuts and then make that tough decision?

you'd have to believe that the Bombers would have the best defense out there, at least on paper anyway... maybe the offense is a little down on fire power, but we would be anyway if we don't come up with a receiver before then, that our best bet may be to not out score them offensively, but, keep them from scoring more than what we're able to put up on the scoreboard due to a stout defense?  more stops equal more opportunities for our offense... more opportunities may help Nichols find his 2017 form easier or quicker...

just a thought...

A slim one perhaps. He'd be an upgrade even if he was only a DI. He would be a better back up at WIL or MLB than we know we have at the moment. He could be a better starter at WIL than we are certain we have.

All that said he was making $200K+ reportedly and we didn't want to spend $140K on JSK. Most have agreed that's too much to pay for a WIL and certainly for a DI.


Most teams might be interested in a similar situation I suggested for us but it all comes down to SMS cost. If no teams are interested in him as a starter he might have to consider a massive pay cut or retirement.

I think I suggested if those are his choices why wouldn't he take the cut just to stay in Vancouver rather than move. New coaches might sway him otherwise.

If he does get cut we should get Bighill to call him and see what his thoughts are at that time.





Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: dd on April 08, 2019, 03:58:27 AM
No chance he comes here. We re saving our cap $$ for a #1 WR, it is the obvious roster spot still unfilled.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 08, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
let's say that BC has spent their SMS nut and they do have to cut Solly prior to the season starting... is there a scenario that could make him a Bomber?  I mean after all, with the roster movement the Bombers have had this off season, you'd have to think that we have a little cap room available...  so if no receivers become available between now and the start of the season would we consider going after him and then wait to see what may become available receiver wise after the NFL cuts and then make that tough decision?

you'd have to believe that the Bombers would have the best defense out there, at least on paper anyway... maybe the offense is a little down on fire power, but we would be anyway if we don't come up with a receiver before then, that our best bet may be to not out score them offensively, but, keep them from scoring more than what we're able to put up on the scoreboard due to a stout defense?  more stops equal more opportunities for our offense... more opportunities may help Nichols find his 2017 form easier or quicker...

just a thought...

I'd love to have him but I think he may be a luxury we can't afford. With Biggie taking up a whack of SMS at MLBer, Solly would make our LBer corps too expensive I would think. BC ran into the same problem when they had Biggie and Solly together, they just had too much tied up at LBer and the rest of the team suffered.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 08, 2019, 01:30:15 PM
I'd love to have him but I think he may be a luxury we can't afford. With Biggie taking up a whack of SMS at MLBer, Solly would make our LBer corps too expensive I would think. BC ran into the same problem when they had Biggie and Solly together, they just had too much tied up at LBer and the rest of the team suffered.

A luxury we can't afford. That's about the size of it. Of course this assumes we have some SMS to spend and find a place to effectively spend it during the season.

It's not the worst situation to have SMS at the end of the season to re-sign players using this season's SMS.  OTOH if we suffer through injuries and don't have a good season I'm sure this will come up in conversation again at some point.

Hindsight is a cruel metric. Only time will tell if we should have paid more to retain JSK, Loffler and Chungh for example. If the replacements play well for less money we'll have made the right decisions.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Horseman on April 08, 2019, 03:22:41 PM
If Solly came loose, I could see Sask going after him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 08, 2019, 03:31:48 PM
If Solly came loose, I could see Sask going after him.

I don't know if they will...but they should. That team needs help badly.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 08, 2019, 04:17:45 PM
A luxury we can't afford. That's about the size of it. Of course this assumes we have some SMS to spend and find a place to effectively spend it during the season.

It's not the worst situation to have SMS at the end of the season to re-sign players using this season's SMS.  OTOH if we suffer through injuries and don't have a good season I'm sure this will come up in conversation again at some point.

Hindsight is a cruel metric. Only time will tell if we should have paid more to retain JSK, Loffler and Chungh for example. If the replacements play well for less money we'll have made the right decisions.

Yep, too many changes for my liking, I'm nervous about the end results.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 08, 2019, 06:14:27 PM
Yep, too many changes for my liking, I'm nervous about the end results.

It's the reality in the business of sports. Rosters change all the time. Some are voluntary and others are not.

Each season is met with anticipation and nervousness. How any season plays out is a complex situation and boils down to a wait and see how it plays out.

I expect we'll find some great new talent while some great talent is lost ( free agency ). We'll spend the SMS one way or another and hope all the decisions paid off.

Nothing more to worry about this year than most other years. We've got a fairly solid roster for the most part.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on April 18, 2019, 11:45:04 PM
'I had an amazing 9 years': Winnipeg?s Eddie Steele retiring from CFL - Russ Hobson

Winnipeg's Eddie Steele indicated on Thursday he's retiring from the CFL.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5183687/eddie-steele-retiring-from-cfl/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: DM83 on April 19, 2019, 02:18:32 AM
He lasted a long time
Good Luck in the future
Leroy good Job!
Go Maroons!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on April 27, 2019, 05:52:23 PM
RedBlacks have added OL Nolan MacMillan to the retired list.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on April 27, 2019, 06:12:02 PM
There were still some interesting free agents that haven't signed yet. I wonder if we'll hear a few more signings after the draft and as TC approaches. Chris Ackie still comes to mind.

Free agents might not land in Winnipeg but you'd think some of them will land somewhere in the CFL. Clock is ticking.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on April 29, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
Edmonton Eskimos defensive back Johnny Adams has retired.

Adams had a contract which ran through the 2019 season, but injuries caught up to the 29-year-old.

Through four CFL seasons, Adams made 159 tackles, 15 special teams stops, nine interceptions and one defensive touchdown.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on April 30, 2019, 03:43:17 PM
The Saskatchewan Roughriders have signed Canadian defensive back Elie Bouka to a one-year contract through the 2019 season.

Bouka was released by the Saskatchewan Roughriders in January 2018 to sign with the Eagles.

The University of Calgary product signed with Saskatchewan in 2017 and played four games making three special teams tackles.

The Riders drafted Bouka in the third-round, 24th overall in the 2016 CFL draft.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 30, 2019, 03:56:35 PM
The Saskatchewan Roughriders have signed Canadian defensive back Elie Bouka to a one-year contract through the 2019 season.

Bouka was released by the Saskatchewan Roughriders in January 2018 to sign with the Eagles.

The University of Calgary product signed with Saskatchewan in 2017 and played four games making three special teams tackles.

The Riders drafted Bouka in the third-round, 24th overall in the 2016 CFL draft.

Good ST signing for the Riders.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on April 30, 2019, 04:05:58 PM
Good ST signing for the Riders.
This. Plus with his athleticism and potential, he can at least start at safety. Wish we signed him


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on April 30, 2019, 04:15:02 PM
This. Plus with his athleticism and potential, he can at least start at safety. Wish we signed him

He has a terrible injury history so I would rather use resources elsewhere.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 30, 2019, 04:32:21 PM
This. Plus with his athleticism and potential, he can at least start at safety. Wish we signed him

Potentially provides them with the ratio option of signing Solly.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on April 30, 2019, 04:50:41 PM
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Market for veteran LB Elimimian heats up, while 39-year-old Kevin Glenn aims to play in 2019. #CFL

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He wants to play this year, as opposed to 2018 when he rode the bench? ;)  J/K, I'm sure someone will buy some insurance... and he has to keep the window open for his stint with the Schooners...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on April 30, 2019, 06:42:19 PM
He has a terrible injury history so I would rather use resources elsewhere.
He is worth the risk. He gets hurt he gets hurt. But with an opening at safety, one should bring as much talent to battle


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: bluebeard on April 30, 2019, 09:24:56 PM
He is worth the risk. He gets hurt he gets hurt. But with an opening at safety, one should bring as much talent to battle
Is there an opening at safety?  Seems to me that Elem is the Riders safety.  Maybe Bouka will back him up and learn more of the CB position as I believe that is where Philly tried him out.  He does have an injury history that may hamper any progress.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on May 01, 2019, 03:21:28 AM
Is there an opening at safety?  Seems to me that Elem is the Riders safety.  Maybe Bouka will back him up and learn more of the CB position as I believe that is where Philly tried him out.  He does have an injury history that may hamper any progress.
Etem is a slightly better Hecht. Again, yes Bouka has injury history but the talent is there. If he can stay healthy...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on May 06, 2019, 01:30:01 PM
BC Lions announced on Friday that offensive lineman Cody Husband has officially retired from professional football.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Fire101 on May 06, 2019, 08:32:49 PM
Ti-Cats just released 14 players, among them Alex Green and Justin Capicciotti.


https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/06/ticats-release-14-players-including-alex-green-justin-capicciotti/



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 08:41:58 PM
Ti-Cats just released 14 players, among them Alex Green and Justin Capicciotti.


https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/06/ticats-release-14-players-including-alex-green-justin-capicciotti/

I'm ok with these cuts after the draft, based on who you draft...  but there will no doubt be blowback about releasing vet players this late...  and why did they extend him just before FA and then cut him before TC?  https://www.cfl.ca/2019/01/29/ticats-ink-international-rb-alex-green/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Fire101 on May 06, 2019, 08:50:24 PM
Cutting Alex Green really surprised me, wonder who they drafted and/or signed to replace him.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on May 06, 2019, 09:06:08 PM
Ti-Cats just released 14 players, among them Alex Green and Justin Capicciotti.


https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/06/ticats-release-14-players-including-alex-green-justin-capicciotti/


Never really cared for Green. But Whitlock and Capicotti surprise me along with Plummer. Also, RB Darius Victor is intriguing


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on May 06, 2019, 10:00:15 PM
We could use Capiccotti.  We really don?t have any national DEs coming to camp. 


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 06, 2019, 10:02:02 PM
We could use Capiccotti.  We really don?t have any national DEs coming to camp. 

if he dont price himself out.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 10:05:59 PM
We could use Capiccotti.  We really don?t have any national DEs coming to camp. 

For the right price he'd be an interesting acquisition for depth in the short term. Whitlock was a versatile player and his release surprises me the most.

I wouldn't be opposed to giving his agent a call. We seem to have some interesting imports coming to TC and we drafted some DL. However, Whitlock wouldn't be an expensive acquisition and he might add a different choice in TC.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 10:20:28 PM
Just as an aside: this is the week where we're going to see retirements announced and some veteran released. SMS decisions and direction a team is going with some new HC's around the league.

I don't envision any real surprises in Winnipeg but who knows what some are contemplating. We don't have many real old players but there are a couple.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on May 06, 2019, 10:41:33 PM
Maybe Tiger Cats are freeing up some extra SMS for Solly?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 10:51:38 PM
We could use Capiccotti.  We really don?t have any national DEs coming to camp. 

Kongbo may not be ready for camp, but he will be on the roster.  And we do have a lot on the DLine already.

 Capicotti's best days are behind him, I'm betting he avoids camp wear and tear, and waits for an injury out there increases his value...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on May 06, 2019, 11:53:25 PM
We could use Capiccotti.  We really don?t have any national DEs coming to camp. 
And we don't necessarily need one. Capicotti isn't really a STer and Kongbo is more of a luxury than a must as we have Canadian DTs


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on May 06, 2019, 11:59:22 PM
Kongbo may not be ready for camp, but he will be on the roster.  And we do have a lot on the DLine already.

 Capicotti's best days are behind him, I'm betting he avoids camp wear and tear, and waits for an injury out there increases his value...

Kongbo hasn?t signed a contract yet, nor is he healthy.  But he will likely end up on the roster sooner or later.

I have always liked Capicciotti, and I feel that we?ve had a bit of a depth gap since Corney went MIA.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: DM83 on May 07, 2019, 12:37:19 AM
Hey. Boss, what are you thinking about Winnipeg? They. Gonna. Cut some. Names?
How about re- signing Dressler?  He's better than anything we have.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on May 07, 2019, 01:09:51 AM
Hey. Boss, what are you thinking about Winnipeg? They. Gonna. Cut some. Names?
How about re- signing Dressler?  He's better than anything we have.
We don't know that yet. The more accurate way to say that is "Dressler has more name value to me"


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: RebusRankin on May 07, 2019, 01:10:10 AM
We could use Capiccotti.  We really don?t have any national DEs coming to camp. 

Maxx Forde


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: the paw on May 07, 2019, 01:31:20 AM
Maxx Forde

When he wasn?t injured last year, BCs depth chart shows him as a DT.  Can?t find any older depth charts for him.

I suppose we could use him on the outside in a pinch.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on May 07, 2019, 01:55:20 AM
Maxx Forde
I think Forde is a DT. My issue with Cappicotti is last year once Corney was out we didn't carry a Canadian DE. It's not necessary


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 07, 2019, 03:22:13 AM
Can Cappicotti play WIL ? 🤪


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on May 07, 2019, 11:28:13 AM
Capiciotti is vastly over rated. If he comes cheap, he could be some decent depth but he won't come cheap. He has not played well as a starter for going on 3 years now. These are SMS moves, and I suspect that a Solly signing in Hamilton is forthcoming.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: thunderNlightning on May 07, 2019, 12:15:46 PM
Capiciotti is vastly over rated. If he comes cheap, he could be some decent depth but he won't come cheap. He has not played well as a starter for going on 3 years now. These are SMS moves, and I suspect that a Solly signing in Hamilton is forthcoming.

That was my first initial thought as well


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 07, 2019, 12:34:16 PM
He had a good year in 2017 but last year he didn't quite live up to the billing.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on May 07, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats release 14 players, including RB Alex Green.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5246556/hamilton-tiger-cats-release-14-players/


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 07, 2019, 01:00:13 PM


Hamilton might be clearing SMS in order to sign Solly as suggested. That's a lot of players to cut although only a few had real playing experience and higher level contracts. In any case I hope Solly ends up out East and the announcement will come shortly. Wouldn't make sense to clear SMS room before they knew he was coming.

Of course there may other players about to be re-signed or just a general decision to improve in certain areas. They had some draft choices to blend into the roster.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on May 07, 2019, 01:27:15 PM
I would absolutely love to sign Capicotti if it was 2015.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on May 07, 2019, 04:32:32 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on May 07, 2019, 05:36:20 PM
Interesting.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 07, 2019, 05:44:18 PM
Interesting.

They have Brett Lauther who they like more.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on May 07, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
They have Brett Lauther who they like more.

Lauther is a better punter for sure.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 07, 2019, 07:00:05 PM
They have Brett Lauther who they like more.

They also signed Jon Ryan, somebody had to go. Bartel is next.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on May 07, 2019, 07:08:06 PM
Jon Ryan has not signed with any CFL team.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on May 07, 2019, 07:10:53 PM
Jon Ryan has not signed with any CFL team.

Yea, he just worked out, IIRC.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Fred C Dobbs on May 07, 2019, 08:34:46 PM
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Check this tweet to see the numbers:

https://twitter.com/DTonSC/status/1125813085481123842

LOL, 'Medlock territory' !


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on May 08, 2019, 01:22:09 AM
Not free agency story, but thought I'd post.

Saskatchewan Roughrider Dan Clark in Saskatoon Hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

He was involved in a car accident coming back from a community event.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: kkc60 on May 08, 2019, 02:35:15 AM
They also signed Jon Ryan, somebody had to go. Bartel is next.
You sure about that?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 08, 2019, 05:16:11 AM
Hey. Boss, what are you thinking about Winnipeg? They. Gonna. Cut some. Names?
How about re- signing Dressler?  He's better than anything we have.

We're on the same page, DM83!  If we don't sign a big "real" name by labor day, we should re-sign Dressler.  In fact, we night need him by week 1.

The best part about Dress is we know he'll be on the 6 game at some point, and, if we keep him there for the full 6 for once, we won't take a big SMS hit.

I'd rather have a big name NFL cut or CFL trade, but if KW blows it on that front for real, Dress is still the best option.  I'm still holding out hope... we have the SMS just sitting there...

I would absolutely love to sign Capicotti if it was 2015.

You win the internet for the day!  Well played.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on May 08, 2019, 12:39:18 PM
We're on the same page, DM83!  If we don't sign a big "real" name by labor day, we should re-sign Dressler.  In fact, we night need him by week 1.

The best part about Dress is we know he'll be on the 6 game at some point, and, if we keep him there for the full 6 for once, we won't take a big SMS hit.

I'd rather have a big name NFL cut or CFL trade, but if KW blows it on that front for real, Dress is still the best option.  I'm still holding out hope... we have the SMS just sitting there...

You win the internet for the day!  Well played.


One of the biggest reasons we have no re-signed Dressler is because a trip to the 6 game is all but guaranteed. There is nothing good about that.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on May 08, 2019, 02:43:12 PM
I would absolutely love to sign Capicotti if it was 2015.

Us in 2015, or Cappicotti in 2015?


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2019, 02:43:51 PM
In what current universe is Dressler better than anything currently on the roster?

If that's the best this team can manage, either now or prior to the Labour Day, that's beyond troubling.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on May 08, 2019, 03:49:40 PM
In what current universe is Dressler better than anything currently on the roster?

If that's the best this team can manage, either now or prior to the Labour Day, that's beyond troubling.

Dressler is definitely more proven than anyone trying to replace him, however, whether he is better remains to be seen.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 08, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
Dressler is definitely more proven than anyone trying to replace him, however, whether he is better remains to be seen.

And it's not just Dressler vs the other receivers on the roster. It's Dressler vs the salary demands he's asking for. It's possible after so much football he just values his services higher than what the Bombers or other teams do. I'm of the opinion that he's certainly not worth any significant investment regardless of whatever he's "better" on paper or not.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 04:14:38 PM
In what current universe is Dressler better than anything currently on the roster?

If that's the best this team can manage, either now or prior to the Labour Day, that's beyond troubling.

At the end of 2018 I thought Nelson was somewhat of a clone in size and style that might be the leading candidate to take Dressler's spot on the roster.

Of course Nelson only had a 1 game brief appearance. Since then we've looked at many many rookies in mini camps and signed 6 rookie receivers for TC + we have Washington and Lawler also returning from mostly PR in 2018.

Some of the rookies: Stewart, Hazel and Bailey seemed to show well in mini camp. Whitehead might still get signed as well as others sitting on neg list at the moment.

No telling who will win roster or even PR spots at this point.

In the past the previous season's PR players don't often survive TC # 2 but each of those receivers did show some flash. In theory they have the early lead advantage going into TC.

That may change day to day so it's another TC of how each is looking from posters attending making reports.

Whether the best are returning from 2018 or new in 2019 will be decided. Posters favorites will show up in conversations as we move into the TC competition.

I don't really have one yet but I am intrigued by Bailey and Stewart as newcomers. Everything changes for rookies once they start lining up against veteran DB's.





Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: GCn18 on May 08, 2019, 04:56:59 PM
At the end of 2018 I thought Nelson was somewhat of a clone in size and style that might be the leading candidate to take Dressler's spot on the roster.

Of course Nelson only had a 1 game brief appearance. Since then we've looked at many many rookies in mini camps and signed 6 rookie receivers for TC + we have Washington and Lawler also returning from mostly PR in 2018.

Some of the rookies: Stewart, Hazel and Bailey seemed to show well in mini camp. Whitehead might still get signed as well as others sitting on neg list at the moment.

No telling who will win roster or even PR spots at this point.

In the past the previous season's PR players don't often survive TC # 2 but each of those receivers did show some flash. In theory they have the early lead advantage going into TC.

That may change day to day so it's another TC of how each is looking from posters attending making reports.

Whether the best are returning from 2018 or new in 2019 will be decided. Posters favorites will show up in conversations as we move into the TC competition.

I don't really have one yet but I am intrigued by Bailey and Stewart as newcomers. Everything changes for rookies once they start lining up against veteran DB's.





If we sign Lucky Whitehead he would bring a lot of the attributes that Dressler did.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 05:03:42 PM
Whitehead does have some credibility beyond the recent mini camp. I assume we'll sign him and wonder what caused the delay. Doesn't matter if he gets signed and attends TC. It's possible he has signed and has just not been announced.

Without accurate updates on the roster pages some things lack clarity.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 08, 2019, 05:59:06 PM
At the end of 2018 I thought Nelson was somewhat of a clone in size and style that might be the leading candidate to take Dressler's spot on the roster.

Of course Nelson only had a 1 game brief appearance. Since then we've looked at many many rookies in mini camps and signed 6 rookie receivers for TC + we have Washington and Lawler also returning from mostly PR in 2018.

Some of the rookies: Stewart, Hazel and Bailey seemed to show well in mini camp. Whitehead might still get signed as well as others sitting on neg list at the moment.

No telling who will win roster or even PR spots at this point.

In the past the previous season's PR players don't often survive TC # 2 but each of those receivers did show some flash. In theory they have the early lead advantage going into TC.

That may change day to day so it's another TC of how each is looking from posters attending making reports.

Whether the best are returning from 2018 or new in 2019 will be decided. Posters favorites will show up in conversations as we move into the TC competition.

I don't really have one yet but I am intrigued by Bailey and Stewart as newcomers. Everything changes for rookies once they start lining up against veteran DB's.

Maybe but not necessarily so, Dressler's exceptional ability has nothing to do with his dimensions, it's his knowledge of the CFL game and a complete understanding of the play call and the reaction of the defence.  As Nichols has said numerous times, it's like having a second set of QB eyes on the field, that comes down to intelligence + experience.  Perhaps Nelson is a quick study but I somehow doubt it, Luke Tasker is the only current player I've seen as good as Dressler at ad-libbing and finding the soft spots.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Maybe but not necessarily so, Dressler's exceptional ability has nothing to do with his dimensions, it's his knowledge of the CFL game and a complete understanding of the play call and the reaction of the defence.  As Nichols has said numerous times, it's like having a second set of QB eyes on the field, that comes down to intelligence + experience.  Perhaps Nelson is a quick study but I somehow doubt it, Luke Tasker is the only current player I've seen as good as Dressler at ad-libbing and finding the soft spots.

Of course that's a valid point. Some players have very high football IQ's from day 1 while others rely on athleticism. I'll take football smarts over raw physical attributes as the priority in roster decisions.

Nelson could be a bust all the way around or he may show some of good football IQ. It's very likely that whoever wins roster spots this TC will have very limited if any actual CFL experience.

My general view he has a 1 or 2 day lead going into TC. He wasn't here that long in 2018. So it was just an early commentary.

Overall I'm just waiting to see whether 2018 rookies are bumped by 2019 rookies etc etc.

Whichever way it goes the final evaluation of how they performed is all that's important. I'd like to see the end of the revolving door with the import receivers. Essentially picking players that show continuous improvement and success during the season.

They don't necessarily need to be superstars but contribute well. If we find some new superstars all the better but that's not the defining line.



Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 08, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
Of course that's a valid point. Some players have very high football IQ's from day 1 while others rely on athleticism. I'll take football smarts over raw physical attributes as the priority in roster decisions.

Nelson could be a bust all the way around or he may show some of good football IQ. It's very likely that whoever wins roster spots this TC will have very limited if any actual CFL experience.

My general view he has a 1 or 2 day lead going into TC. He wasn't here that long in 2018. So it was just an early commentary.

Overall I'm just waiting to see whether 2018 rookies are bumped by 2019 rookies etc etc.

I will admit that I don't like Nelson's dimensions, if he can't duplicate Dressler's football IQ or demonstrate that he's an extraordinary returner I don't want to see him occupying a roster spot.  Perhaps Demski can merge Dressler and Flanders roles and they can keep the other receiver positions open for the bigger boys.  Walters has been trying to increase the physical presence of the receivers for years, it's time to finally accomplish that task.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 08:18:35 PM
I will admit that I don't like Nelson's dimensions, if he can't duplicate Dressler's football IQ or demonstrate that he's an extraordinary returner I don't want to see him occupying a roster spot.  Perhaps Demski can merge Dressler and Flanders roles and they can keep the other receiver positions open for the bigger boys.  Walters has been trying to increase the physical presence of the receivers for years, it's time to finally accomplish that task.

Nelson is bigger than B. Banks for whatever that is worth. Generally I'd prefer a bigger stronger body type. But size one way or the other is lower on the skills / physical aspect need. Speed, agility, difficult to find and bring down, soft hands and football IQ.

I'm not sure if he makes the roster or not. I'm not even sure what it says if the 2018 PR players win the spots over the 2019 recruits. It all comes down to how the choices play during the season.

I wouldn't like to see the team still looking for answers in 2020.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 08, 2019, 09:40:57 PM
Nelson is bigger than B. Banks for whatever that is worth. Generally I'd prefer a bigger stronger body type. But size one way or the other is lower on the skills / physical aspect need. Speed, agility, difficult to find and bring down, soft hands and football IQ.

I'm not sure if he makes the roster or not. I'm not even sure what it says if the 2018 PR players win the spots over the 2019 recruits. It all comes down to how the choices play during the season.

I wouldn't like to see the team still looking for answers in 2020.

Hamilton is going against the grain, they just drafted David Ungerer a Dressler like clone to go along with Tasker, Saunders and Banks.  I don't know what their plan for receiver is but I like the Bombers plan of getting bigger better.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 09, 2019, 05:43:00 AM
In what current universe is Dressler better than anything currently on the roster?

From what we've seen on-field, Dressler is by far the best INT slot receiver out of our current bunch.  Others may be better, but they haven't shown it in game time yet.  That makes them just hopes and dreams.

Have you forgotten that diving TD grab into the EZ Dressler did for us in late '18?  That was an amazing thing of beauty, and helped us win the game.  If only he could be out there doing that more often... If Dressler were 7 years younger we'd be all over him.

We need a slotback that can make that play on a regular basis.  That is how you win GCs.  If we don't bring up the big-name NFL cut or get some miracle CFL cut/trade, then Dress is as good an option as any other, IMHO.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
Bryant Mitchell is a free agent again. I wonder where he lands. He might want to follow Reilly but I don't think they can afford him after needing to release Solly.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on May 14, 2019, 01:45:18 AM
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Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2019, 02:05:19 AM
You sure about that?

Oh yah baby, I'm positive!  Might have got the date wrong but I knew it was coming.  ;D


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Pigskin on May 14, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
Unless BC was just clearing space for him.

I did think that Jon would sign any place but at home in Regina.


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2019, 07:28:13 PM
Unless BC was just clearing space for him.

I did think that Jon would sign any place but at home in Regina.

He'll get the most work in Regina. lol


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: blue_or_die on May 14, 2019, 07:46:27 PM
He'll get the most work in Regina. lol

Lol. Absolutely!


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: theaardvark on May 22, 2019, 09:48:14 PM
Evans signs in MTL.. surprised Huff didn't grab him, or Hervey with Claybrooks as HC...  maybe those two are waiting for Singleton...

Nice pick up by Reed, wonder who gets cut to make SMS room...


Title: Re: 2019 Free Agency - Other Team Signings
Post by: Ridermania on May 22, 2019, 11:19:16 PM
I don't think Calgary or BC had enough SMS left.

Montreal has lots of room available.