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Title: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on November 27, 2018, 11:30:56 PM
Current roster:
                                                                                                        Contract length                           Salary
Matt Nichols -15             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017                        2019                          450 000 (2019)
Chris Streveler -17         QB   I   signed May 4 2018                             2019
Sean McGuire - 12          QB   I   signed May 15 2019                           2019  2020
Zach Collaros - 8                QB   I   signed Oct 9 2019                             2019

Andrew Harris -33          RB   N    extended May 20 2018                     2019   2020                    195 000
Johnny Augustine -25, 27 RB   N    signed Nov 30 2018 (added from PR July 4)   2019*
Brady Oliveira - 20          RB   N    signed May 13 2019                         2019   2020*
Mike Miller -24                FB   N    re-signed Dec 11 2018                      2019   2020
John Rush -32                FB   N    re-signed Jan 4 2019                        2019   2020

Darvin Adams -1           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017                        2019
Charles Nelson -12 3 6 WR   I     signed Oct 30 2018                         2019
Kenny Lawler -89          WR   I    signed Nov 20 2018                          2019    2020*
Lucky Whitehead - 87 7    WR   I   signed May 9 2019                             2019   2020
Janarion Grant - 80            WR   I     signed July 23 2019  (added from PR Aug 7)    2019   2020*   
Rasheed Bailey - 88      WR   I   re-signed April 29 2019 (added from PR Sept 6)  2019   2020  
Drew Wolitarsky -82      WR   N    signed Oct 5 2017                           2019
Nic Demski -10               WR   N    signed Feb 12 2019                         2019   2020
Daniel Petermann -81    WR   N    signed May 14 2018                       2019  

Stanley Bryant -66          OL   I   re-signed Jan 17 2019                         2019
Jermarcus Hardrick -51  OL   I   extended Nov 28 2018                         2019
Darrell Williams -65           OL   I   signed June 13 2019  (added from PR Oct 4)   2019  2020   
Patrick Neufeld -53        OL  N   extended Nov 16 2017                          2019
Michael Couture -59      OL   N   re-signed Jan 21 2019                          2019                                  
Geoff Gray -68               OL   N   signed Oct 15 2018                              2019   2020
Cody Speller -62            OL   N   signed Oct 30 2018                              2019   
Drew Desjarlais - 61       OL   N     signed May 15 2019                           2019   2020*     
Asotui Eli - 67                 OL   N   signed May 13 2019 (added from PR Oct 24)   2019   2020      

Justin Medlock -9             K     I     re-signed Jan 7 2019                            2019   2020                         
Chad Rempel -46            LS   N     re-signed Jan 9 2019                         2019   2020
Maxime Latour -58          LS  N   signed Sept 4 2019 (added from PR Oct 18)   2019*

Drake Nevis -92              DT   I    signed March 16 2019                         2019     
Jake Thomas -95            DT   N     re-signed Jan 8 2019                          2019
Jackson Jeffcoat -94       DE    I     re-signed Jan 21 2018                           2019   2020
Craig Roh -93                 DE   I    signed Feb 16 2018                              2019
Willie Jefferson - 5            DE  I      signed Feb 12 2019                              2019                                      $210 000
Jonathan Kongbo- 00 2       DE  N     signed May 17 2019                              2019   2020*
Steven Richardson - 98    DL   I   signed May 18 2019                                2019   2020
Connor Griffiths -78 91        DL   N   signed May 13 2019 (added to PR Oct 24)   2019   2020*  

Adam Bighill -4              LB  I      re-signed Jan 15 2019                            2019   2020   2021                   230 000
Kyrie Wilson -19           LB   I      re-signed Feb 5 2019                             2019   2020
Thiadric Hansen - 43 3        LB   G  signed May 15 2019                                   2019   2020
Korey Jones - 45           LB   I    signed July 16 2019 (added from PR Aug 7)      2019   2020*
Jesse Briggs -34           LB   N    re-signed Dec 17 2018                            2019   2020
Shayne Gauthier -44    LB   N    re-signed Jan 25 2019                            2019   2020
Thomas Miles -52         LB   N    re-signed Jan 30 2019                             2019
Brandon Calver -43          LB   N signed Sept 6 2019  (added from PR Sept 26)   2019   2020
           
Brandon Alexander -37  DB   I     re-signed Feb 12 2019                           2019   2020
Anthony Gaitor -23          DB   I     Re-signed Jan 27 2019                         2019   2020
Chandler Fenner -22        DB   I      signed Feb 13 2018                            2019                                    130 000
Marcus Sayles -36,14           DB   I     signed June 28 2018                      2019
Winston Rose - 30            DB   I    signed Feb 13 2019                                 2019
Mercy Maston -36           DB   I     signed Aug 4 2019                                 2019*
Nick Taylor - 25                LB   I   signed Aug 19 2019 (added from PR Oct 4)       2019   2020
Mike Jones - 16                DB   I   signed April 29 2019 (added from PR Oct 24) 2019   2020   
Derek Jones -0              DB   N     re-signed Nov 20 2017                         2019
Jeff Hecht -29                DB   N     re-signed Feb 3 2019                             2019   
Dexter Janke - 31           DB   N    signed Feb 7 2019                                  2019   2020*
Nick Hallett - 21              DB   N   signed May 10 2019                                 2019   2020*
Kerfalla Exume - 48 41      DB   N   signed May 13 2019                               2019   2020*

Practice roster:    
M Hermamdez-Reyes - 54 38     LB   G   signed May 15 2019  - on PR since June 9       
S Schiaffino Perez - 47 26  DB  G    signed May 15 2019      - on PR since June 9                     
Kenneth Walker - 86       WR   I     re-signed April 29 2019    - on PR since July 31  
Dondre Wright - 40          DB   N   signed July 8 2019              - on PR Sept 19 2019 
Meffy Koloamatangi - 97  DE  I   signed Sept 24 2019  - on PR Sept 24 2019
David Kenney - 49           DE  I   signed Sept 24 2019  - on PR Sept 24 2019
Trey Johnson -35             DB  I   signed Sept 24 2019  - on PR Sept 24 2019
Jordan Robinson - 47      RB   I   signed Sept 24 2019  - on PR Sept 24 2019
Nathan Brisson-Fast - 48     DL   I    signed Oct 8 2019   - on PR Oct 8 2019
Malcolm Williams - 84      WR   N   added to AR Aug 31 2019  - on PR Oct 10 2019 
Marcus Rios - 39            DB   I    signed May 1 2019  (added to AR June 26)  - on PR Oct 24 2019
Trevor Knight - 18          QB  I   signed Sept 24 2019 (added to AR Oct 24)  - on PR Nov 9 2019

Signed to Future Contract:
Sam Williams                LB/BD  I   signed Oct 2 2019      2020   2021
Patrick Choudja              DL     I   signed Oct 10 2019    2020*
Demerio Houston                         signed Oct 20 2019    2020   2021
Austin Appleby                            signed Oct 28 2019    2020    2021
Tyrone Neal                                 signed Oct 28 2019   2020   2021
Isaiah Harper                              signed Oct 31 2019   2020   2021
Malcolm Lewis                             signed Oct 31 2019  2020  2021           
Tyre Mccants                               signed Oct 31 2019   2020   2021
Travin Dural                                 signed Nov 2  2019   2020   2021
Joshua Allen                                signed Nov 2  2019   2020   2021
Ezekiel Rose                                signed Nov 2  2019   2020   2021   
Raekwon Williams                       signed Nov 5 2019     2020   2021
Joshua Caldwall                          signed Nov 6 2019    2020   2021
Mason Moe                                  signed Nov 6 2019    2020   2021
Royce Lafrance                            signed Nov 6 2019    2020   2021
James Williams                            signed Nov 7 2019     2020   2021
Ardarius Stewart                         signed Nov 13 2019   2020   2021
Devin Lucien                             signed Nov 13 2019   2020   2021                   
    
* contract length is not confirmed

Once a Bomber, Always a Bomber;
Maurice Leggett -31  DB   I    re-signed Feb 6 2018        released Nov 21 2018 (was pending FA)
Chris Randle -8        DB   I    re-signed Jan 23 2018       released Jan 9 2019
Ian Wild -38            LB   I    re-signed Jan 8 2018         released Jan 18 2019 (was pending FA)
Matthias Goossen -61    C   N   extended Dec 16 2015    retired Jan 29 2019 (was pending FA)
Kienan LaFrance -27     RB   N   signed Feb 13 2018   became FA Feb 12 2018
Weston Dressler -7     WR   I   re-signed Dec 19 2017   became FA Feb 12 2018   
Ryan Lankford -84        WR   I    signed Nov 2 2018   became FA Feb 12 2018
Nic Demski -10            WR   N    signed Feb 13 2018   became FA Feb 12 2018 - signed w/ Wpg Feb 12 2019
Sukh Chungh -69          OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017   became FA Feb 12 2018 - signed w/ BC Feb 12 2019
Drake Nevis -92           DT   I   re-signed Dec 28 2017   became FA Feb 12 2018       
Tristan Okpalaugo -54   DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017   became FA Feb 12 2018
Trent Corney -43         DE   N     signed May 24 2016   became FA Feb 12 2018  - retiring        
Jovan Santos-Knox -45   LB   I    signed July 12 2017   became FA Feb 12 2018 -signed w/ Edm Feb 12 2019
Frank Renaud -40         LB   N     re-signed    became FA Feb 12 2018  
Frederic Plesius -39       LB   N    signed July 24 2018    became FA Feb 12 2018
Kevin Fogg -3               DB   I   re-signed Feb 12 2018   became FA Feb 12 2018     
Taylor Loffler -16         DB   N    signed  May 23 2016   became FA Feb 12 2018
Brendan Morgan -21     DB   N     signed Sept 2018   became FA Feb 12 2018   
Bryan Schor                    QB   I   signed Jan 30 2019   released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp
Jalen Simmons              RB   I     signed Feb 1 2019    released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp
Larry Rose                     RB   I     signed Feb 26 2019  released April 24 2019  - re-signed April 29 2019
Evan Clarke                   WR   I    signed Nov 30 2018   released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp
Garrett Johnson            WR   I    signed Jan 30 2019   released April 24 2019  -re-signed April 29 2019    
Rasheed Bailey             WR   I    signed Feb 5 2019   released April 24 2019 - re-signed April 29 2019  
Dom Williams               WR   I    signed Feb 7 2019   released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp   
Tim Wilson                    WR   I    signed Feb 19 2019   released April 24 2019  - re-signed April 29 2019    
Kenneth Walker            WR   I   signed March 19 2019   released April 24 2019 - re-signed April 29 2019       
Dennis Parks                 WR   I   signed March 28 2019   released April 24 2019  - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp      
Dale Warren                LB   I   signed Mar 12 2019    released April 24 2019  -  re-signed April 29 2019     
Chinedu Oparaku        LB   I   signed Mar 12 2019   released April 24 2019  - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp 
Jimmy Pruitt                  DB   I     signed Dec 12 2018    released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp       
Amari Coleman             DB   I   signed Jan 17 2019   released April 24 2019  -  re-signed April 29 2019          
Jarnor Jones                 DB   I signed Jan 17 2019   released April 24 2019  - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp
Mykkele Thompson       DB   I    signed Feb 1 2019   released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp            
Malik Reaves                 DB   I     signed Feb 15 2019   released April 24 2019  - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp                        
Joe Este                        DB   I     signed Feb 19 2019   released April 24 2019   -  re-signed April 29 2019     
Terrance Baldwin          DB   I      signed April 8 2019   released April 24 2019 - wasn't re-signed after mini-camp         
Malik Boynton               DB   I      signed April 8 2019   released April 24 2019  - re-signed April 29 2019   
Christian Boutte           DB   I      signed April 8 2019   released April 24 2019 - re-signed April 29 2019   
Eric Patterson               DB   I     signed Jan 4 2019     released April 29 2019 (wasn't at mini-camp)
Noble Nwachukwu         DL   I     signed Feb 4 2019    released May 3 2019
Otha Peters Jr. - 40      LB   I     signed Dec 26 2018    released May 15 2019
Malik Richards - 70       WR   N   signed May 15 2019   released May 17 2019
Kevin Anderson - 8        QB   I   signed May 1 2019    released May 18 2019
Ja'Von Rolland-Jones -98 DE  I   signed April 30 2019   released May 18 2019
Josh Stewart - 80           WR   I  signed April 29 2019   released May 19 2019
Sawyer Buettner - 2      CFL/U Sports QB Apprentice   added May 19 2019 - last practice May 22 2019
Frank Sutton - 57          OL   I   signed May 18 2019    released May 25 2019 
Evan Perrizo - 97           DL   I  signed Dec 12 2018     released May 25 2019
Kendall Calhoun - 69     OL   I    signed Feb 15 2019   released May 26 2019
Christian Boutte - 12      DB   I   re-signed April 29 2019    released May 26 2019
Rannell Hall                    DB   I   signed May 26 2019    released May 28 2019
Chauncey Briggs - 64    OL   I   signed Jan 18 2019      released June 3 2019
M Ouellet De Carlo - 60  OL   N signed Dec 18 2018       released June 3 2019
Ben Koczwara -65          OL   N  signed Dec 18 2018        released June 3 2019
Garrett Johnson - 77     WR   I   re-signed April 29 2019       released June 3 2019
Chris Hubert - 72          WR  I   signed May 15 2019        released June 3 2019
Payton Hall  - 27            DB   N   signed May 15 2019      released June 3 2019          
Abu Conteh -41              DB   N   signed July 20 2018     released June 4 2019
Malik Boynton - 38         DB   I    re-signed April 29 2019   released June 7 2019
Elijah Battle - 45           DB   I   signed April 29 2019 (announced May 15)   released June 7 2019
Jacob Firlotte - 42         DB   N  signed Dec 26 2018        released June 7 2019
Tim Wilson - 83             WR   I   re-signed April 29 2019    released June 7 2019
Delroy Baker - 58          OL   I   signed May 15 2019      released June 7 2019   
Israel Helms - 56          OL   I   signed May 25 2019         released June 7 2019
Troy Wilson -76 DB                      added May 16 2019  - territorial exempt player
Brandon Urciuoli - 73 RB              added May 16 2019   - territorial exempt player
Cole Sneesby - 74 LB                  added May 16 2019   - territorial exempt player
Bryan Bennett -18        QB   I   signed May 25 2018     released June 8 2019
Larry Rose - 21             RB   I   re-signed April 29 2019  released June 8 2019
John Santiago -40        RB   I   signed May 19 2019        released June 8 2019
Corey Washington -6   WR  I   signed Sept 6 2018        released June 8 2019
Matt Hazel - 84            WR   I  signed April 30 2019       released June 8 2019
Rashaun Simonise -13  WR  N signed May 11 2018       released June 8 2019
Dylan Schrot - 70         WR   N signed May 17 2019        released June 8 2019
Tanner Farmer - 57       OL   I  signed May 26 2019       released June 8 2019
**G Amavizca Ortiz -71    K   I   signed May 15 2019       released June 8 2019
Alex McCalister - 91       DE   I  signed Feb 19 2019       released June 8 2019
Brandin Bryant -96        DL   I  signed Aug 23 2018       released June 8 2019
Zach Greenberg - 97     LS   N  signed May 28 2019      released June 8 2019
Maxx Forde - 99            DL   N  signed Feb 24 2019       released June 8 2019
Tariq LaChance - 79     DL   N   signed May 10 2019      released June 8 2019
Tyneil Cooper - 26        DB   I   signed Jan 17 2019       released June 8 2019
Amari Coleman - 49      DB   I   re-signed April 29 2019   released June 8 2019
Joe Este - 7                  DB   I   re-signed April 29 2019      released June 8 2019
Manase Foketi -57         OL   I   re-signed Dec 26 2017   added to Veteran exempt list May 25 2019   retired June 8 2019
Patrick Choudja -90       DE   I   signed Nov 20 2018  (on PR since June 9)     traded to Calgary July 1 2019
Kenbrell Thompkins -2  WR   I   signed July 26 2018  - suspended May 19 2019   released from suspended list July 11 2019
Nick Temple - 36 43      LB   I      signed May 8 2019 (added to AR from PR July 4 2019)    released July 16 2019
Alex Morrison - 87           WR   N   signed July 22 2019 (added to PR July 22 2019)     released July 24 2019
Jamar McGloster - 55        OL   I   signed May 25 2019 (added to PR July 11 2019)    released July 24 2019
DJ Lalama - 25             LB   N    signed Feb 15 2019           released Aug 14 2019
Chris Matthews - 80 13      WR  I   signed May 10 2019      released Aug 28 2019
Alex McCalister - 90       DE - I     signed Aug 20 2019         released Aug 30 2019
John Santiago - 35         RB   I    signed July 3 2019     - on PR since July 3  2019  -released Sept 4 2019
Alex McCalister - 90        DE - I    re-signed Sept 3 2019         - on PR since Sept 3 2019 - released Sept 4 2019
Mike Jones - 16                DB   I   signed April 29 2019   (added to AR Aug 14)  - added to PR Sept 6 2019
Kevin Anderson - 18        QB   I   signed Aug 28 2019            on PR since Aug 28 2019  - released Sept 17 2019
Dondre Wright - 40          DB   N   signed July 8 2019  (added to AR Sept 6 2019) - added to PR Sept 19 2019
Malcolm Williams - 84      WR   N   added to AR Aug 31 2019     - added to PR Sept 19 2019
Larry Rose  - 42               RB   I   signed Sept 4 2019                 - added to PR Sept 19 2019
Maxime Latour -58             LS  N   signed Sept 4 2019 (added to AR Sept 6 2019)   - added to PR Sept 19 2019
Na'ty Rodgers - 55          OL   I   signed Aug 19 2019   - on PR since Aug 19 2019  - released Sept 20 2019
Chris Humes -35 8             DB   I    signed Oct 30 2018  (added to AR July 11)  - released Sept 24 2019
Larry Rose  - 42               RB   I   signed Sept 4 2019   - on PR since Sept 19 2019  - released Sept 24 2019
Asotui Eli - 67                 OL   N     signed May 13 2019  (added to AR Aug 14)  - added to PR Sept 26 2019 
Dale Warren - 50         LB   I      re-signed April 29 2019  (added to PR July 25)  - released Oct 1 2019
Jawill Davis -83                WR I   signed Sept 24 2019  (added to PR Sept 24) - released Oct 1 2019
Mike Jones - 16                DB   I   signed April 29 2019 (added to AR PR Sept 20) - added to PR Oct 4 2019
Johnathan Boone-83          WR   I    signed Oct 1 2019     - on PR Oct 1 2019 -released Oct 8 2019
Malcolm Williams - 84      WR   N   added to AR Aug 31 2019 (added tom AR Oct 4) - added to PR Oct 10 2019
Jalen Allison - 13                   DB   I    signed Oct 8 2019   - on PR Oct 8 2019 -released Oct 23 2019
John Vogeler - 42                 LB   I    signed Oct 8 2019   - on PR Oct 8 2019  - released Oct 23 2019
Marcus Rios - 39            DB   I    signed May 1 2019  (added to AR June 26)  - added to PR Oct 24 2019
Trevor Knight - 18            QB  I   signed Sept 24 2019 (added to AROct 24)  - added to PR Nov 9 2019


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on November 27, 2018, 11:31:59 PM
Roster as of Nov 27 2018:

Current roster:
                                                                                       Contract length                         Salary
Matt Nichols             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017             2018   2019   2020                      450 000 (2019)
Chris Streveler          QB   I   signed May 4 2018                  2018   2019
Bryan Bennett           QB   I  signed May 25 2018                 2018   2019

Andrew Harris           RB   N    extended May 20 2018            2018   2019   2020                    195 000
Kienan LaFrance        RB   N   signed Feb 13 2018                 2018                                        80 000
Mike Miller                FB   N    signed Mar 3 2017                  2018
John Rush                FB   N    signed Sept 20 2018                2018 

Darvin Adams           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017              2018   2019
Weston Dressler       WR   I   re-signed Dec 19 2017              2018   
Kenbrell Thompkins   WR   I   signed July 26 2018                  2018   2019
Corey Washington     WR   I    signed Sept 6 2018                  2018   2019
Charles Nelson         WR   I     signed Oct 30 2018                 2018    2019
Ryan Lankford          WR   I    signed Nov 2 2018                    2018
Kenny Lawler            WR   I    signed Nov 20 2018                 2018   2019    2020*
Drew Wolitarsky       WR   N    signed Oct 5 2017                   2018    2019
Nic Demski              WR   N    signed Feb 13 2018                  2018                                     150 000
Rashaun Simonise     WR   N    signed May 11 2018                 2018   2019   2020
Daniel Petermann     WR   N    signed May 14 2018                 2018   2019

Stanley Bryant         OL   I   re-signed Dec 12 2017                 2018    2019#                         200 000
Jermarcus Hardrick    OL   I   extended Nov 16 2017                 2018    2019#
Manase Foketi          OL   I   re-signed Dec 26 2017                2018   2019
Matthias Goossen      C   N   extended Dec 16 2015                 2018
Sukh Chugh              OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017                 2018
Patrick Neufeld         OL  N   extended Nov 16 2017                 2018   2019
Michael Couture       OL   N   signed May 23 2016                    2018                                       75 000
Geoff Gray               OL   N   signed Oct 15 2018                     2018   2019   2020
Cody Speller            OL   N   signed Oct 30 2018                     2018

Justin Medlock           K   I   re-signed Nov 30 2017                 2018                                 
Chad Rempel            LS   N  re-signed Dec 19 2016                 2018

Drake Nevis             DT   I   re-signed Dec 28 2017                 2018         
Jake Thomas            DT   N   signed May 22 2018                   2018
Tristan Okpalaugo     DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017                      2018                                      178 000
Jackson Jeffcoat       DE    I    signed Feb 21 2017                    2018
Craig Roh                DE   I    signed Feb 16 2018                    2018   2019
Patrick Choudja        DE   I     signed Nov 20 2018                   2018   2019   2020*
Brandin Bryant         DL   I     signed Aug 23 2018                   2018   2019
Trent Corney           DE   N     signed May 24 2016                   2018

Ian Wild                  LB   I    re-signed Jan 8 2018                   2018           
Jovan Santos-Knox   LB   I    signed July12 2017                      2018
Adam Bighill             LB  I      signed May 19 2018                   2018                                      175 000
Kyrie Wilson            LB   I      signed Nov 10 2018                   2018
Jesse Briggs             LB   N    re-signed Feb 13 2017                2018
Shayne Gauthier       LB   N    signed May 23 2016                    2018
Thomas Miles           LB   N    signed Mar 4 2017                      2018
Frank Renaud           LB   N     re-signed                                 2018   
Frederic Plesius        LB   N    signed July 24 2018                    2018
     
Chris Randle             DB   I    re-signed Jan 23 2018                 2018   2019                          135 000   
Kevin Fogg               DB   I     re-signed Feb 12 2018                2018           
Brandon Alexander     DB   I     signed April 17 2017                  2018
Anthony Gaitor          DB   I     signed Feb 1 2018                     2018   2019
Chandler Fenner        DB   I      signed Feb 13 2018                   2018   2019                          130 000
Marcus Sayles           DB   I     signed June 28 2018                   2018   2019
Chris Humes             DB   I    signed Oct 30 2018                      2018    2019
Taylor Loffler            DB   N    signed  May 23 2016                   2018
Derek Jones              DB   N     re-signed Nov 20 2017               2018   2019
Jeff Hecht                 DB   N    signed July 13 2018                    2018   
Abu Conteh               DB   N    signed July 20 2018                    2018   2019
Brendan Morgan        DB   N     signed Sept 2018                       2018   

* contract length is not confirmed
# agreed to re-sign for 2019

Joseph Este              DB   I     signed Nov 7 2018 (not announced by club)   

Practice roster players released Nov 19 2018:

Tyneil Cooper           DB   I     
Timothy Flanders       RB   I     
Qadr Spooner            OL   N   
Kenny Lawler            WR   I   - re-signed Nov 20 2018
Patrick Choudja        DE   I     - re-signed Nov 20 2018 
Jacob Firlotte           DB   N     
Gerald Rivers            DE   I     
Johnny Augustine      RB  N   

Maurice Leggett       DB   I      - released Nov 21 2018
   
Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=49702.0  (http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=49702.0 )


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on November 28, 2018, 07:54:51 PM
WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH OFFENSIVE TACKLE JERMARCUS HARDRICK

WINNIPEG, MB., November 28, 2018 -   The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to a one-year contract extension with offensive tackle Jermarcus Hardrick.

"I think it's well-documented our offensive line is a major part of our team, both on and off the field," said General Manager Kyle Walters. "Jermarcus would certainly be one of those players that exemplifies what we look for in an offensive lineman; tough, physical, emotional but controlled. His teammates really love him, and as an organization we appreciate everything he brings."

Hardrick started 15 games in 2018, missing three due to injury. Over his three seasons in Winnipeg, Hardrick has started 49 games at right tackle, being named a West Division All-Star in 2017.

"I've said it many times, but I love this organization, my teammates, and just being in Winnipeg," said Hardrick. "I can't ever say enough about my passion for all of those things, and we are going to come back in 2019 and keep progressing towards our goal."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/11/28/winnipeg-blue-bombers-agree-terms-offensive-tackle-jermarcus-hardrick/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/11/28/winnipeg-blue-bombers-agree-terms-offensive-tackle-jermarcus-hardrick/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on November 29, 2018, 05:25:11 PM
Why one year? How about two so we don't have to do this again next year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on November 29, 2018, 05:29:18 PM
What is the best safety in the CFL worth?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on November 29, 2018, 05:45:32 PM
Why one year? How about two so we don't have to do this again next year.

I wonder if the CFLPA is asking players not to sign longer deals, as the CFLPA president said that they presently regard all contracts, regardless length, as one year commitments as they can be cancelled at any time....  regardless, signing a one year deal just means more and harder work for Walters... and I don't think he is afraid of that.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on November 29, 2018, 06:21:59 PM
What is the best safety in the CFL worth?

Not as much as you'd think. Safety is a position that is considered pretty easy to replace therefore the laws of supply and demand factor in. I think the last real good NAT safety was in the 140k neighborhood.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on November 29, 2018, 06:26:18 PM
I wonder if the CFLPA is asking players not to sign longer deals, as the CFLPA president said that they presently regard all contracts, regardless length, as one year commitments as they can be cancelled at any time....  regardless, signing a one year deal just means more and harder work for Walters... and I don't think he is afraid of that.

I doubt that is the case. Hardrick has been doing 1 year deals for awhile. So has Medlock.  Even with the lack of guarantee many 2 year deals have a bonus at year end and an increase for year 2. So it's better to have that chance of a bonus and salary increase than to not have it for veterans that are stable long term players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on November 29, 2018, 06:30:03 PM
I wonder if the CFLPA is asking players not to sign longer deals, as the CFLPA president said that they presently regard all contracts, regardless length, as one year commitments as they can be cancelled at any time....  regardless, signing a one year deal just means more and harder work for Walters... and I don't think he is afraid of that.

Antoine Pruneau just signed a 3 year extension with Ottawa.

Guys like Hardrick might be signing one year deals so they get a signing bonus each year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on November 29, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
Antoine Pruneau just signed a 3 year extension with Ottawa.

Guys like Hardrick might be signing one year deals so they get a signing bonus each year.

They get roster bonuses each year which amount to the same thing. They are signing one year deals because they can.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on November 29, 2018, 06:47:08 PM
Also super annoyed with the one year deals that are a sigh of relief that is to be extremely short-lived before doing the whole dog and pony show again next year. 'Tis the age we live in, though, unfortunately...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on November 29, 2018, 07:09:49 PM
Also, maybe we're looking at Gray taking over a tackle spot moving forward?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on November 29, 2018, 07:24:10 PM
Also, maybe we're looking at Gray taking over a tackle spot moving forward?
Maybe in a couple years yeah.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on November 29, 2018, 10:54:49 PM
So what did Pruneau get????


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on November 30, 2018, 01:08:26 AM
Also, maybe we're looking at Gray taking over a tackle spot moving forward?

The team really likes Hardrick and Bryant. Both have just re-signed new deals. Not sure how quickly Gray will adapt to the CFL but he's probably going to be a guard as long as we have those two T's.

Or unless we have an injury. Of course we still have Foketi but if Gray can play tackle that MIGHT make him expendable to make room to keep another Canadian as depth.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 30, 2018, 01:44:13 AM
The team really likes Hardrick and Bryant. Both have just re-signed new deals. Not sure how quickly Gray will adapt to the CFL but he's probably going to be a guard as long as we have those two T's.

Or unless we have an injury. Of course we still have Foketi but if Gray can play tackle that MIGHT make him expendable to make room to keep another Canadian as depth.

Yah, I kind of expect Foketi's run is over.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on November 30, 2018, 05:36:56 AM
Yah, I kind of expect Foketi's run is over.
Meh. He's a good tackle under contract for a reasonable amount I'm sure. No point cutting him until end of preseason and even then only if roster just simply can't hold him. Decent OL are quite hard to find. No point dropping one for no reason


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on November 30, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Meh. He's a good tackle under contract for a reasonable amount I'm sure. No point cutting him until end of preseason and even then only if roster just simply can't hold him. Decent OL are quite hard to find. No point dropping one for no reason

I think we all agree with the idea Foketi is a good player and not that expensive. The point being made is that if we have Canadian OL capable of playing OT we might want that roster spot there instead.

It doesn't matter if a player is on the 2 man reserve or the 1 game IR, it all goes against the SMS.

So if we have Canadian OL we want to not lose than it's the cumulative decision against the SMS. At the end of the season we " rostered " Speller and Gray for example.

No problem with Foketi at TC or possibly even beyond but it might become a decision on how or if he is retained. Roster size, positional players and total SMS are all part of the equation.

We ( as posters ) don't really know what Speller's upside is and Gray needs to show us during TC. He could be a starter for all we know. Then there is the draft and free agency to be worked out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on November 30, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
At this point we have 3 of our 6 rostered NAT OL possibly becoming FA's. There is absolutely no way of knowing whether Foketi will be here or not until that is sorted out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on November 30, 2018, 02:41:11 PM
At this point we have 3 of our 6 rostered NAT OL possibly becoming FA's. There is absolutely no way of knowing whether Foketi will be here or not until that is sorted out.

He is under contract... so he will be here for camp at least...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on November 30, 2018, 02:45:18 PM
At this point we have 3 of our 6 rostered NAT OL possibly becoming FA's. There is absolutely no way of knowing whether Foketi will be here or not until that is sorted out.

That's the question alright. In any case I think Foketi will be at TC. Even if things go well in free agency and in TC Foketi could possibly be trade bait or still needed if our Canadian " depth " at tackle is not there.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on November 30, 2018, 02:47:08 PM
He is under contract... so he will be here for camp at least...

That's not necessarily true. Players under contract are released during the off season as new player acquisitions are made.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on November 30, 2018, 03:16:21 PM
That's not necessarily true. Players under contract are released during the off season as new player acquisitions are made.

They are released if they have a roster bonus due (not likely in this case) or if we need to roster spot.  Neither of those cases apply.  There is absolutely no reason to release Foketi.  They obviously like the guy, and he seems to like it here.  So, while technically any player can be released at any time, there is absolutely no reason to release Foketi. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on November 30, 2018, 04:07:11 PM
That's not necessarily true. Players under contract are released during the off season as new player acquisitions are made.
Cutting Foketi before TC would be pretty pointless unless he is making a lot of money, which I'm assuming he isn't. I think some posters are forgetting how difficult it is to find decent OL


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on November 30, 2018, 05:29:37 PM
They are released if they have a roster bonus due (not likely in this case) or if we need to roster spot.  Neither of those cases apply.  There is absolutely no reason to release Foketi.  They obviously like the guy, and he seems to like it here.  So, while technically any player can be released at any time, there is absolutely no reason to release Foketi. 

I'm not saying to release Foketi before or even after TC. Just saying that any player can be potentially released prior to TC as the roster fills up by position and in total.

As long as we use imports at tackle we're going to need import depth at TC. Most of the time that depth ends up on the PR but having to roster a player is a different consideration. We've done it successfully for 2 seasons and my continue that in 2019.

OTOH there will be new competition and by definition, non full time starters are always at some risk. Foketi still can't be making much more than absolute minimum. More but probably well within reason.

It's always possible the scouts find excellent new talent that will accept PR spots. We may draft a bunch of OL we want to retain etc etc.

We don't want Neufeld to be the 1st replacement at tackle if there is any injury. If Gray wins a starting role at guard but also shows he can be a very good back up at T then that changes the options available. Assuming we don't lose Chungh at RG.

I agree Foketi is a good player and could just as easily still be here. How all this shakes out in free agency, draft and scouting is what we'll see over the next few months.

Over 300 potential free agents at the moment.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 03, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Transactions Nov 28:

WPG ADD  INT Darvin ADAMS (WR)    Auburn *
WPG ADD  NAT Johnny AUGUSTINE (RB)    Guelph
WPG ADD  INT Bryan BENNETT (QB)    Southeastern Louisiana *
WPG ADD  INT Brandin BRYANT (DL)    Florida Atlantic *
WPG ADD  INT Evan CLARK (WR)    Saint John's
WPG ADD  NAT Abubakar CONTEH  (DB)    Grambling State *
WPG ADD  INT Chandler FENNER (DB)    Holy Cross *
WPG ADD  INT Manase FOKETI (OL)    West Texas A&M *
WPG ADD  NAT Geoff GRAY (OL)    Manitoba *
WPG ADD  NAT Andrew HARRIS (RB)    Nanaimo Raiders Jr. *
WPG ADD  NAT Derek JONES (DB)    Simon Fraser *
WPG ADD  NAT Patrick NEUFELD (OL)    Saskatchewan *
WPG ADD  INT Matt NICHOLS (QB)    Eastern Washington *
WPG ADD  NAT Daniel PETERMANN (WR)    McMaster *
WPG ADD  INT Chris RANDLE (DB)    Utah State *
WPG ADD  INT Craig ROH (DE)    Michigan *
WPG ADD  NAT Rashaun SIMONISE (WR)    Calgary *
WPG ADD  NAT Cody SPELLER (OL)    McMaster *
WPG ADD  INT Kenbrell THOMPKINS (WR)    Cincinnati *
WPG ADD FROM ACTIVEXX INT Patrick CHOUDJA (DL)    Nevada
WPG ADD FROM ACTIVEXX INT Joseph ESTE (DB)    Tennessee Martin
WPG ADD FROM ACTIVEXX INT Kenny LAWLER (WR)    California
Notes: * Registration of existing 2019 contract.
For any player previously listed as retired/suspended, but shown as ADD today, their status has not changed.

Winnipeg Blue Bombers Add to Roster - December 4, 2018

WINNIPEG, MB., December 4, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international receiver Evan Clarke, national running back Johnny Augustine, international defensive end Patrick Choudja and international receiver Kenny Lawler.

Clark
(5'10, 190, St. John's University, August 6, 1995 in Phoenix, AZ) played five seasons with the St. John's University Johnnies, totalling 29 touchdowns. In 44 games played, Clark had 90 receptions for 1701 receiving yards, the 14th most all time at St. John's. In 2018, Clark participated in the Kansas City Chiefs rookie camp.

Augustine (5'9, 202, University of Guelph, July 7, 1993 in Welland, ON.) signed as a free agent with Winnipeg prior to last season, and saw action in nine games. Augustine recorded seven carries for 51 yards and one touchdown. He played five seasons with the Guelph Gryphons, rushing for 2,742 yards and 28 touchdowns on 483 rushes. In his senior year, Augustine rushed for 690 yards and nine touchdowns on 122 carries.

Choudja (6'3, 263, Nevada, April 11, 1996 in Oakley, CA) played four seasons with the Nevada Wolfpack, totalling 93 tackles, four and a half sacks and four forced fumbles in 50 games. Choudja signed with the San Francisco 49ers as an undrafted free agent in 2018 and spent time on the Bombers' practice roster in 2018.

Lawler (6'2, 203, University of California, June 25, 1994 in Pomona, CA.) was selected in the seventh round of the 2016 NFL Draft by the Seattle Seahawks, spending time on their practice squad in 2016 and 2017. Lawler played three seasons with the California Golden Bears, catching 143 passes for 1706 yards and 27 touchdowns. He spent part of 2018 on the club's practice roster.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/04/bombers-add-four-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/04/bombers-add-four-roster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on December 03, 2018, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo
WPG ADD  INT Evan CLARK (WR)    Saint John's
Who?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on December 03, 2018, 07:25:54 PM
Who?

From the mighty St. John's Johnnies.....

Quote
Clark, who was listed at 5-foot-10 and 190 pounds last fall, was an All-MIAC first team pick twice and a three-time D3football.com All-West Region honoree for St. John's.

He caught 29 passes for 496 yards and six touchdowns and rushed 13 times for 202 yards and two touchdowns, playing in 10 of the Johnnies' 11 games this season.

Clark finished his career with 23 receiving touchdowns, four rushing touchdowns and two kick returns for touchdowns. His 29 total touchdowns is 15th on the school's career list.

He is also 14th in career receiving yards (1,701) and his 1,185 kick return yards is second on the career list at St. John's.

Clark graduated from St. John's with a degree in communications in December. After graduating, he said he moved to the Twin Cities and was working out at ETS Next Level in Woodbury.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 03, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
Nice to see Augustine is coming back...hopefully we don't use any SMS on Lafrance this year...be an utter waste of roster money...and space


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 03, 2018, 08:21:31 PM
Nice to see Augustine is coming back...hopefully we don't use any SMS on Lafrance this year...be an utter waste of roster money...and space

X1000. Even if Harris couldn't go, LaFrance wasn't a realistic option. Good on him for spinning one sensational game into a multi-year career but I think the ship has sailed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 03, 2018, 08:42:53 PM
I see no Spooner, looks like he hasn't worked out as well as hoped.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RebusRankin on December 03, 2018, 09:36:05 PM
Perhaps we ditch Lafrance to free up some $?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on December 03, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
I see no Spooner, looks like he hasn't worked out as well as hoped.
Well they do have Gray now so I guess that Spooner was expendable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 05, 2018, 01:54:29 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/EvanPerrizo/status/1070150693741363201



Evan Perrizo

@EvanPerrizo

Excited to announce that I have signed with the

@Wpg_BlueBombers

! Very thankful for this opportunity to continue my professional football career.

6'5" 275 lbs got a shot with Tampa Bay this year.





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on December 05, 2018, 04:49:55 PM
Nice size good speed and only 23 years old. Played at Mankato.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: bigbuff33 on December 06, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
Looks very very impressibe...wonder why he didn't get his shot...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 06, 2018, 04:59:55 PM
Looks very very impressibe...wonder why he didn't get his shot...

He did. Tampa Bay.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 06, 2018, 10:21:35 PM
Bombers haven`t announced Perrizo`s signing but it does show on the CFL website:

Transactions Dec 5:

WPG ADD  INT Evan PERRIZO (DL)    Minnesota State Mankato


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Curling4Me on December 07, 2018, 12:06:05 AM
Bombers haven`t announced Perrizo`s signing but it does show on the CFL website:

Transactions Dec 5:

WPG ADD  INT Evan PERRIZO (DL)    Minnesota State Mankato
Probably will be announced alongside other signings


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Maudie fingerjammer on December 07, 2018, 12:48:58 AM
https://youtu.be/Ggv9D6Pj0nY


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 07, 2018, 04:21:24 AM
Reminds me of John Chick. Explosive guy with long arms and a good bull rush.

Obviously, if he could be anywhere near John Chick we are all going to be happy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: VictorRomano on December 07, 2018, 12:09:19 PM
https://youtu.be/Ggv9D6Pj0nY


Kid has quick feet.  He gets those big tackles moving their mass one way, then creates a little separation with his arms and changes direction quickly.  Look at how often the tackles are forced into holding, or are falling all over their own feet in this vid.  I'd say the kid has decent core skills.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on December 07, 2018, 12:48:29 PM
Perrizo is a perfect example of the body type that the CFL will continue to be able to recruit. He is a tweener that is between DL and LBer for the 4 down version of the game.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 11, 2018, 03:48:43 PM
Mike Miller re-signs for 2 years.

Excellent, he is an important part of our team.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/11/bombers-agree-terms-canadian-fullback-mike-miller/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Stretch on December 11, 2018, 04:05:09 PM
Mike Miller re-signs for 2 years.

Awesome! That guy brings it on every special teams play.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on December 11, 2018, 04:13:12 PM
Awesome! That guy brings it on every special teams play.

Glue guy in the dressing room as well from what I hear.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on December 11, 2018, 04:21:45 PM
Great news! I did not expect us to be able to retain a ST specialist like Miller. Must be an O'Shea effect.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on December 11, 2018, 04:28:22 PM
Great re-signing. Gotta keep the special teams players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2018, 06:57:39 PM
Its Miller time... he's not the physical specimen Wade was, but he gets the job done just as good...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on December 11, 2018, 07:39:09 PM
Great news! I did not expect us to be able to retain a ST specialist like Miller. Must be an O'Shea effect.

Why would we not be able to retain Miller? If we retain Biggie you can probably call that the O'Shea effect but Miller? More like the "I gotta fair offer and not many teams are making room for ST specialists anymore so Ill re-up here" effect.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on December 11, 2018, 08:01:37 PM
Why would we not be able to retain Miller? If we retain Biggie you can probably call that the O'Shea effect but Miller? More like the "I gotta fair offer and not many teams are making room for ST specialists anymore so Ill re-up here" effect.

He struck me as a mercenary for hire. Being a career STer, he seems like someone that would change teams for an extra 2k, which he may have gotten by testing FA.

I'm not suggesting he would command a giant raise. I also wasn't sure what a signing priority he was, so the fact that he put his name up for a re-signing at this point is a bit of a surprise and indicates he's happy here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2018, 08:39:18 PM
He struck me as a mercenary for hire. Being a career STer, he seems like someone that would change teams for an extra 2k, which he may have gotten by testing FA.

I'm not suggesting he would command a giant raise. I also wasn't sure what a signing priority he was, so the fact that he put his name up for a re-signing at this point is a bit of a surprise and indicates he's happy here.



Mike Miller @MillerWm17

My family and I couldn't be happier to be staying in Winnipeg! Love my teammates, Coaches, the organization and fans! Cheers to 2 more years #ForTheW


From the Bomber site...

"I?ve really enjoyed my two years here. The coaches are great, teammates are great, and the organization is top-notch. Plus, my family loves Winnipeg and all that makes it a really good fit for us.? Miller making Winnipeg home for 2 more years. 📝 | http://ow.ly/UJWO30mWXbI


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: BlueInCgy on December 11, 2018, 08:51:49 PM
He struck me as a mercenary for hire.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's only ever played for two teams, the Esks and the Bombers, and IIRC he was with the Esks for at least four seasons?  Not really the mercenary/gun for hire mold.

Nonetheless, glad he's back.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on December 11, 2018, 09:45:01 PM
Need more guy's like Mike Miller.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 11, 2018, 10:24:37 PM
He struck me as a mercenary for hire. Being a career STer, he seems like someone that would change teams for an extra 2k, which he may have gotten by testing FA.

I'm not suggesting he would command a giant raise. I also wasn't sure what a signing priority he was, so the fact that he put his name up for a re-signing at this point is a bit of a surprise and indicates he's happy here.


It also demonstrates you are not paying a ton of attention.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 11, 2018, 10:46:25 PM
Great re-signing. Gotta keep the special teams players.

Lot`s of them to get re-signed still. My guess is Thomas Miles is next.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 12, 2018, 12:45:48 AM
As noted many times earlier one of my favorite players. Balls to the Walls all the time.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on December 12, 2018, 12:28:12 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's only ever played for two teams, the Esks and the Bombers, and IIRC he was with the Esks for at least four seasons?  Not really the mercenary/gun for hire mold.

Nonetheless, glad he's back.

You are correct, and he only left Edmonton because they released him. I think he's a really loyal guy who just loves playing football.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on December 12, 2018, 12:54:17 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's only ever played for two teams, the Esks and the Bombers, and IIRC he was with the Esks for at least four seasons?  Not really the mercenary/gun for hire mold.


You are correct, but I didn't google that until yesterday. Just a gut feeling I had that turned out to be inaccurate.

It also demonstrates you are not paying a ton of attention.

The next time I need information about the background and emotional leanings of a career STer, I'll be sure to turn to you then, k?

Cuck-ah!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 12, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
Pretty sure all the foot soldier guys we want back will be easily signed...generally the ones that don't come back are the ones that the team actually releases, or has on the PR at end of year and aren't looked at as priority.

The free-agent ones tho that the team deems key to the team...will all be back unless one gets a really hard tio turn down deal from a team where they are from...or close to being from


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on December 12, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
It looks like we are signing the bottom end of our FA's now while the top end guys wait for the new CBA to see how much more money and signing bonuses are available.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 12, 2018, 03:19:05 PM


The next time I need information about the background and emotional leanings of a career STer, I'll be sure to turn to you then, k?

Cuck-ah!


I would prefer you just pay more attention


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on December 12, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
It looks like we are signing the bottom end of our FA's now while the top end guys wait for the new CBA to see how much more money and signing bonuses are available.

I am sure the team wants to know the salary cap as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Knocker42 on December 12, 2018, 03:20:43 PM
Never a bad thing to be clear about whether you are stating an opinion or a fact.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on December 12, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
I would prefer you just pay more attention


lol. Just to recap, I made an innocent comment that I was pleasantly surprised by the signing, on a fan discussion forum no less, and the fact that I was a bit surprised has lead you to conclude that I should become more knowledgeable about a special teams player on a CFL team.

lol, take a hike.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 12, 2018, 04:31:08 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., December 12, 2018 -   The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive lineman Evan Perrizo and international defensive back Jimmy Pruitt.

Perrizo (6'5, 275, Minnesota State, May 26, 1995 in Eden Prairie, MN) played five seasons for the Minnesota State Mavericks, totalling 138 tackles, 27 sacks and four forced fumbles in 51 games. In his senior season in 2017, Perrizo recorded 12 sacks, the fifth-most in a season in team history. In 2018, Perrizo signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as an undrafted free agent.

Pruitt (6'0, 203, San Jose State, November 28, 1992 in San Diego, CA) played four seasons for the San Jose State Spartans, totalling eight interceptions, 182 tackles and four forced fumbles in 47 games. In 2016, Pruitt signed with the New Orleans Saints as an undrafted free agent.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/12/bombers-add-two-roster-5/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/12/bombers-add-two-roster-5/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on December 12, 2018, 04:35:15 PM
I wouldn't say Miller is a bottom end player for the bombers. Canadian, top ST's player, and comes in to block on some O plays.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 12, 2018, 05:15:02 PM
CFL REVEALS LIST OF 10 NEGOTIATION LIST PLAYERS FOR EACH TEAM

TORONTO - The Canadian Football League (CFL) and the nine clubs have unveiled ten players from each team's negotiation list on Wednesday.

This marks the second time this year ten players have been made public, with the first lists announced in February. Following the CFL winter meetings, the teams approved a measure to publicly share ten players from their negotiation lists twice a year (February and December).

CFL by-laws state that teams can claim exclusive CFL rights to up to 45 players by placing them on their negotiation list. Players can be added, removed or traded from the list at any time.

Below are the lists of 10 players from each CFL team:

*Indicates player currently in college and participating in an NCAA bowl game

WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS

NAME               POSTION   COLLEGE   
Eric Barriere   QB   Eastern Washington   
Charlie Brewer*   QB   Baylor   
Fred Brown           WR   Mississippi State   
Richie Brown   LB   Mississippi State   
Amari Coleman   DB   Central Michigan   
Jayson DiManche   LB   Southern Illinois   
Donald Hawkins   OL   Texas   
Mekale McKay   QB   Cincinnati   
Bryan Schor   QB   James Madison   
Lucky Whitehead   WR   Florida Atlantic

https://www.cfl.ca/2018/12/12/cfl-reveals-list-10-negotiation-list-players-team-2/ (https://www.cfl.ca/2018/12/12/cfl-reveals-list-10-negotiation-list-players-team-2/)

Darren Cameron   @Darren_Cameron
A correction on here - they have Mekale McKay (Cincinnati) listed as quarterback, however he is a wide receiver.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on December 12, 2018, 05:58:50 PM
Just confirming, when we sign players right now that will be earning league minimum, we can sign them the current minimum, and they will get a bump if that goes up.  But if we have current SMS$ available, we can give some of that league min salary up front, right?  So we can safely sign players now that are guys guaranteed to make the team, and have a low likelihood of ending up on the 6 game (where we will not gain relief from upfront payments).

I know he league has asked teams not to give out bonuses until the CBA is signed to exert pressure on the CFLPA to get a deal done quick, but that was just a request, right?  Teams can make 2018 SMS$ payouts for 2019 and beyond deals if they wish, right?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on December 12, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
Just confirming, when we sign players right now that will be earning league minimum, we can sign them the current minimum, and they will get a bump if that goes up.  But if we have current SMS$ available, we can give some of that league min salary up front, right?  So we can safely sign players now that are guys guaranteed to make the team, and have a low likelihood of ending up on the 6 game (where we will not gain relief from upfront payments).

I know he league has asked teams not to give out bonuses until the CBA is signed to exert pressure on the CFLPA to get a deal done quick, but that was just a request, right?  Teams can make 2018 SMS$ payouts for 2019 and beyond deals if they wish, right?


You can sign a few players right now. It's pretty safe to assume the SMS won't go down, so if they are willing to play for the same money or just a small increase the Bombers can make it happen. However guys like Biggie will have to wait until there is some clarity on the SMS for this year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 17, 2018, 10:27:10 PM
Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Canadian linebacker Jesse Briggs

WINNIPEG, MB., December 17, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with pending free agent Canadian linebacker Jesse Briggs on a two-year deal.

Briggs was originally selected 17th overall by Winnipeg in the 2014 CFL Draft and has spent the past five seasons in Blue and Gold. Over that span, Briggs has played in all but three games, tallying 87 career games played, 56 special teams tackles and 18 defensive tackles. Briggs has recorded double digit special teams tackles in four of his five CFL seasons.

"Last week we were able to agree with Mike Miller, which was big for our special teams in the next two seasons," said General Manager, Kyle Walters. "Similarly, Jesse also brings many great attributes on special teams and has continued to develop in that role for us. He works extremely hard, is a quiet player who goes about his business and does so at a very high level."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/17/bombers-agree-terms-canadian-linebacker-jesse-briggs/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/17/bombers-agree-terms-canadian-linebacker-jesse-briggs/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on December 18, 2018, 09:35:31 AM
It's great to know we are signing our special teams aces.....however, it doesn't motivate me to think management has faith in maintaining possession in offence, when we prioritize signing. Kick cover guys.......lol!

On another note....do we actually sign any former Div 1 NCAA guys?

This latest signing of a defensive tackle from some obscure Div III community college in Minnesota, is like signing a guy from the Red River community College inter- mural program. Lol!

Come on man!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 18, 2018, 01:04:23 PM
Not really...I've seen many a JUCO team in the U.S who would hand the ***** to any CIS program...and "technically" they are below Div III


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 18, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
Not really...I've seen many a JUCO team in the U.S who would hand the ***** to any CIS program...and "technically" they are below Div III

Yeah, not likely, you under estimate the talent in the CIS.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 18, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Yeah, not likely, you under estimate the talent in the CIS.

If the talent in the CIS was so good, Cauchy Muamba wouldn't have had an 8-year career in the CFL (and counting). There are some gems that come out of the CIS for sure, but those are the needles in the haystack. And I mean no disrepect to CIS, and those that like it, they are fantastic CIS-level athletes but very few are capable of being impact players at the next level.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 18, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
If the talent in the CIS was so good, Cauchy Muamba wouldn't have had an 8-year career in the CFL (and counting). There are some gems that come out of the CIS for sure, but those are the needles in the haystack. And I mean no disrepect to CIS, and those that like it, they are fantastic CIS-level athletes but very few are capable of being impact players at the next level.

Same can be said about NCAA players, there are good ones and then there are the fringe and in between players, same as the CIS. I can speak from experience as I played against a Division 1 NCAA team (Northern Arizona Lumberjacks) and was also recruited by Division 1 NCAA, Dartmouth (Big Green) University, Hanover NH. I did not attend Dartmouth as at that time the Ivy League did not offer scholarships so I could not afford the tuition or cost to go there. The person I played against for NAU was projected to be a first round NFL draft choice. I elected to play CIS football on a scholarship and can say I have played against tougher/better players in the CIS than the projected 1st round NFL draft pick from NAU.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on December 18, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
It's great to know we are signing our special teams aces.....however, it doesn't motivate me to think management has faith in maintaining possession in offence, when we prioritize signing. Kick cover guys.......lol!

On another note....do we actually sign any former Div 1 NCAA guys?

This latest signing of a defensive tackle from some obscure Div III community college in Minnesota, is like signing a guy from the Red River community College inter- mural program. Lol!

Come on man!
Small program guys can sometimes be the brightest gems. They come here younger because the NFL tends to over look small school guys.

You're making it sound like these guys play for the Rifles. Whatever school they played at doesn't always matter. Not every div 1 player makes it in the pros just like not every div 3 player doesn't



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 18, 2018, 04:35:48 PM
Small program guys can sometimes be the brightest gems. They come here younger because the NFL tends to over look small school guys.

You're making it sound like these guys play for the Rifles. Whatever school they played at doesn't always matter. Not every div 1 player makes it in the pros just like not every div 3 player doesn't

That's where the CFL should focus their recruitment, too many eyes on the Div. 1 players and big name schools, most current CFL QB's came out of Div. 3.  Find the good individual athletes with potential that have not had the best coaching, facilities or program behind them but still have a burning desire to play pro and possess a high football acumen.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on December 18, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
Same can be said about NCAA players, there are good ones and then there are the fringe and in between players, same as the CIS. I can speak from experience as I played against a Division 1 NCAA team (Northern Arizona Lumberjacks) and was also recruited by Division 1 NCAA, Dartmouth (Big Green) University, Hanover NH. I did not attend Dartmouth as at that time the Ivy League did not offer scholarships so I could not afford the tuition or cost to go there. The person I played against for NAU was projected to be a first round NFL draft choice. I elected to play CIS football on a scholarship and can say I have played against tougher/better players in the CIS than the projected 1st round NFL draft pick from NAU.

This is a little confusing.  If you played CIS, how did you end up playing against the NAU guy?  Was it in high school?    Also, I am not sure how much we can extrapolate from a single example.

However, narrative aside, I agree that CIS has produced some very good ball players.  There are certainly guys who played in CIS who could have played NCAA ball.  How often they could have played at the Division 1 level is open for debate, however if Simon Fraser can run a program in CIS and then join NCAA Division 2, that's probably a fair indicator for comparison. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 18, 2018, 04:47:54 PM
This is a little confusing.  If you played CIS, how did you end up playing against the NAU guy?  Was it in high school?    Also, I am not sure how much we can extrapolate from a single example.

However, narrative aside, I agree that CIS has produced some very good ball players.  There are certainly guys who played in CIS who could have played NCAA ball.  How often they could have played at the Division 1 level is open for debate, however if Simon Fraser can run a program in CIS and then join NCAA Division 2, that's probably a fair indicator for comparison. 

It was an exhibition game between our CIS team and NAU in Flagstaff in their dome. We were allowed to use our motion, played 4 downs, and our QB's used the American ball as it was easier to throw and catch with compared to the Canadian ball.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 18, 2018, 04:56:46 PM
Same can be said about NCAA players, there are good ones and then there are the fringe and in between players, same as the CIS. I can speak from experience as I played against a Division 1 NCAA team (Northern Arizona Lumberjacks) and was also recruited by Division 1 NCAA, Dartmouth (Big Green) University, Hanover NH. I did not attend Dartmouth as at that time the Ivy League did not offer scholarships so I could not afford the tuition or cost to go there. The person I played against for NAU was projected to be a first round NFL draft choice. I elected to play CIS football on a scholarship and can say I have played against tougher/better players in the CIS than the projected 1st round NFL draft pick from NAU.

Thanks for sharing your personal story, that's cool! I am not trying to discount it, but everything I know from watching (admittedly, not playing) leads me to believe the CIS is not even close to being on par with the Division 1 football (and for the most part, not Div II either). If it was even in the same stratosphere, NFL teams would be up here signing guys all the time but they aren't.

You just look at the money, amenities, coaching and sheer numbers of athletes that is available down south for high school and college compared to Canada and it boggles the mind. There's no possible way that our system comes close to rivaling the output of the US in terms of quantity or quality. It's impossible.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on December 18, 2018, 05:03:36 PM
Current roster about 64 players with 29 or 30 potential free agents.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 18, 2018, 05:07:15 PM
Thanks for sharing your personal story, that's cool! I am not trying to discount it, but everything I know from watching (admittedly, not playing) leads me to believe the CIS is not even close to being on par with the Division 1 football (and for the most part, not Div II either). If it was even in the same stratosphere, NFL teams would be up here signing guys all the time but they aren't.

You just look at the money, amenities, coaching and sheer numbers of athletes that is available down south for high school and college compared to Canada and it boggles the mind. There's no possible way that our system comes close to rivaling the output of the US in terms of quantity or quality. It's impossible.

True, but you won't find a CIS player graduating without a legitimate education, they have their priorities straight.  Half the college players in the US come out of school just as dumb as when they entered.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on December 18, 2018, 05:09:59 PM
True, but you won't find a CIS player graduating without a legitimate education, they have their priorities straight.  Half the college players in the US come out of school just as dumb as when they entered.

Half the Presidents of the United States come out as dumb as NCAA football players. I don't think stupidity is a symptom of playing football in the US. No offense to 66.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 18, 2018, 06:26:43 PM
Thanks for sharing your personal story, that's cool! I am not trying to discount it, but everything I know from watching (admittedly, not playing) leads me to believe the CIS is not even close to being on par with the Division 1 football (and for the most part, not Div II either). If it was even in the same stratosphere, NFL teams would be up here signing guys all the time but they aren't.

You just look at the money, amenities, coaching and sheer numbers of athletes that is available down south for high school and college compared to Canada and it boggles the mind. There's no possible way that our system comes close to rivaling the output of the US in terms of quantity or quality. It's impossible.

I agree, CIS does not compare with Division 1, but the point I was trying to make is that there are a lot of CIS players that are just as good talent wise as Division 1 players, but where the difference is lies in the level of coaching the players receive.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 18, 2018, 07:39:28 PM
Bombers Sign Two 2018 Draft Picks

WINNIPEG, MB., December 18, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have added two 2018 CFL Draft picks - both offensive lineman - Matthew Ouellet De Carlo and Ben Koczwara. Both players were with the team in training camp in 2018.

De Carlo (6-4, 318, Bishop's University, November 7, 1993 in Pierrefond QC) was selected 49th overall in the 2018 CFL Draft. He played four seasons with the Bishop's Gaiters. De Carlo is a two-time Academic All-Canadian and participated in the 2017 U Sports East-West bowl. In 2014, De Carlo received newcomer of the year honors and in 2016 was named linemen of the year for the Gaiters.

Koczwara (6-3, 291, Waterloo University) was selected 67th overall in the 2018 CFL Draft. He played four seasons with the Waterloo Warriors, playing in 31 games. Koczwara participated in the 2017 U Sports East-West Bowl.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on December 18, 2018, 09:45:05 PM
True, but you won't find a CIS player graduating without a legitimate education, they have their priorities straight.  Half the college players in the US come out of school just as dumb as when they entered.
Because different programs. Junior hockey players in canada are the exact same


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 19, 2018, 12:59:06 AM
Because different programs. Junior hockey players in canada are the exact same

Not comparable, JR. hockey players don't play for or represent educational institutions and CIS hockey players are legitimate student athletes that must earn their grades.  That being said if millions of dollars was generated from college sports here as in the US perhaps we'd most likely see a similar situation develop.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 19, 2018, 01:36:34 AM
Blue Bombers' 2018 draft pick retires before signing first pro contract

Arnaud Gendron-Dumouchel has decided to hang up his (very large) cleats.

The 6'9 offensive lineman out of the University of Montreal missed most of the 2018 U Sports season due to a terrible ankle injury (warning: video is graphic).
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2018/09/08/video-un-joueur-des-carabins-subit-une-terrible-blessure-a-la-cheville-contre-le-rouge-et-or (https://www.journaldequebec.com/2018/09/08/video-un-joueur-des-carabins-subit-une-terrible-blessure-a-la-cheville-contre-le-rouge-et-or)

Gendron-Dumouchel has decided not to play professional football as a result of the injury.

The offensive tackle saw his stock rise before and after last year's CFL combine. He eventually dropped to Winnipeg in the fourth round of the draft due to his desire to return to school for his final year of U Sports eligibility.

The Bombers have two offensive linemen under contract from their 2018 draft class - Bishop's Matthew Ouellet De Carlo and Waterloo's Ben Koczwara - but Gendron-Dumouchel was the best prospect among them.

http://3downnation.com/2018/12/18/blue-bombers-2018-draft-pick-retires-signing-first-pro-contract/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/12/18/blue-bombers-2018-draft-pick-retires-signing-first-pro-contract/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on December 19, 2018, 02:44:04 AM
Another reason CIS football emphasises education more: they are preparing players for CFL which requires an actual job along with playing. Meanwhile most NCAA Div 1 programs are preparing for NFL. You don't need another job for the most part


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on December 19, 2018, 01:15:29 PM
Another reason CIS football emphasises education more: they are preparing players for CFL which requires an actual job along with playing. Meanwhile most NCAA Div 1 programs are preparing for NFL. You don't need another job for the most part

They ought to rethink that, then, because only a fraction of NCAA athletes will make the bigs and will need to fall back on their degree for a regular job.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 19, 2018, 02:29:07 PM
Yeah, not likely, you under estimate the talent in the CIS.
I played in the CIS...Then a year of JUCO before transfering to San Jose State...and now coach/train and prep kids for Draft....have a pretty good handle on the talent levels in all 3 of the aforementioned classes of schools....I seen High School teams in California and Texas with teams that would probably beat, or at the least give CIS teams a good run for their money....no joke!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 19, 2018, 02:32:08 PM
I agree, CIS does not compare with Division 1, but the point I was trying to make is that there are a lot of CIS players that are just as good talent wise as Division 1 players, but where the difference is lies in the level of coaching the players receive.
Some are yeah...but a team may have 1 player that is at par with a Div 1 school....the rest maybe would run scout team


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on December 19, 2018, 02:48:13 PM
Wow,,, that's a bad break.. looks just like the Nichols one in Edmonton...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 19, 2018, 03:02:45 PM
I played in the CIS...Then a year of JUCO before transfering to San Jose State...and now coach/train and prep kids for Draft....have a pretty good handle on the talent levels in all 3 of the aforementioned classes of schools....I seen High School teams in California and Texas with teams that would probably beat, or at the least give CIS teams a good run for their money....no joke!

Sorry, you maybe able to fool some of the people on this forum, but you are way off the mark.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 19, 2018, 03:53:19 PM
ok boss...not trying to fool anyone...just saying it as it is...especially as most high level kids in the U.S have been playing football since 5 years old by the time they get to university, whereas the Canadian kids in a lot of places don't pick up the sport until Highschool they are right off the bat behind the talent curve, and factor in about 80 percent of of the best of the best of Canadian kids go to American Schools...be it JUCO or any of the NCAA divisions leaves pretty much scraps left over for the Canadian schools...you can argue it all you want, but it is what it is.

We have CIS kids come down to the Bay Area to train for college/university as well as prep for regional combines and I can count on one hand over the past 5 years where a kid was as good or better than an American kid at his position.

Now factor in a whole team of those kids on a CIS team and yeah..sure they can compete...but when you have a school with one or two guys of that calibre on your team, and the rest are their hometown highschool stars who of the majority have at best 4 solid years of football training behind them...and for the most part not elite training and coaching and you will see a DIV 1 U.S school embarrassingly hammering them...and DIV 2-3 and some JUCO's 99 times out of 100 cruising to easy victory.

Basing your opinion on lining up against one dude in highschool in some exhibition game as your basis to say CIS can compete with NCAA schools is crazy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 19, 2018, 05:00:39 PM
ok boss...not trying to fool anyone...just saying it as it is...especially as most high level kids in the U.S have been playing football since 5 years old by the time they get to university, whereas the Canadian kids in a lot of places don't pick up the sport until Highschool they are right off the bat behind the talent curve, and factor in about 80 percent of of the best of the best of Canadian kids go to American Schools...be it JUCO or any of the NCAA divisions leaves pretty much scraps left over for the Canadian schools...you can argue it all you want, but it is what it is.

We have CIS kids come down to the Bay Area to train for college/university as well as prep for regional combines and I can count on one hand over the past 5 years where a kid was as good or better than an American kid at his position.

Now factor in a whole team of those kids on a CIS team and yeah..sure they can compete...but when you have a school with one or two guys of that calibre on your team, and the rest are their hometown highschool stars who of the majority have at best 4 solid years of football training behind them...and for the most part not elite training and coaching and you will see a DIV 1 U.S school embarrassingly hammering them...and DIV 2-3 and some JUCO's 99 times out of 100 cruising to easy victory.

Basing your opinion on lining up against one dude in highschool in some exhibition game as your basis to say CIS can compete with NCAA schools is crazy.

It wasn't in high school it was University ball, Division 1, with the guy being touted as a 1st round NFL draft pick by Sports Illustrated at the time. There were tougher better ball players in the CIS that I played against than this fellow. There is no question the American players get better coaching during their years, but to say that a junior college team or high school team could beat a CIS team is out to lunch big time. I have known guys who couldn't make a CIS team that went to play junior college in the states and it is a lower level of ball. The NCAA Division 1 teams have a greater percentage of grade A players because the talent pool in the states is much bigger to choose from than in Canada, but Canadians can definitely compete with Americans. We Canadians have an inferiority complex and think because they are American players they are so much better than a Canadian and that simply is not be true and I am calling you out on it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on December 19, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
It wasn't in high school it was University ball, Division 1, with the guy being touted as a 1st round NFL draft pick by Sports Illustrated at the time. There were tougher better ball players in the CIS that I played against than this fellow. There is no question the American players get better coaching during their years, but to say that a junior college team or high school team could beat a CIS team is out to lunch big time. I have known guys who couldn't make a CIS team that went to play junior college in the states and it is a lower level of ball. The NCAA Division 1 teams have a greater percentage of grade A players because the talent pool in the states is much bigger to choose from than in Canada, but Canadians can definitely compete with Americans. We Canadians have an inferiority complex and think because they are American players they are so much better than a Canadian and that simply is not be true and I am calling you out on it.

Well, I don't think many are going to agree with you on this one.

It's not really an inferiority complex. It has to do with the fact that football is a bigger deal in the US than in Canada, and they have 10x as many people.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 19, 2018, 05:22:42 PM
It wasn't in high school it was University ball, Division 1, with the guy being touted as a 1st round NFL draft pick by Sports Illustrated at the time. There were tougher better ball players in the CIS that I played against than this fellow. There is no question the American players get better coaching during their years, but to say that a junior college team or high school team could beat a CIS team is out to lunch big time. I have known guys who couldn't make a CIS team that went to play junior college in the states and it is a lower level of ball. The NCAA Division 1 teams have a greater percentage of grade A players because the talent pool in the states is much bigger to choose from than in Canada, but Canadians can definitely compete with Americans. We Canadians have an inferiority complex and think because they are American players they are so much better than a Canadian and that simply is not be true and I am calling you out on it.

If true, where's the proof? Show me the successful Canadian quarterbacks? Why do so many CFL teams struggle to find and recruit quality national talent (especially depth)? Even most CFL teams consistantly rank non-imports who have played in the NCAA higher than CIS in the drafts. Look up the history (especially in the first round). Why doesn't the NFL sign more players directly from the CIS? The vast majority of the upper echelon of CIS talent is lucky to get a practice roster spot, and most are returned to the CFL after a couple years at most. Why is that? NFL teams (and college recruiting) don't like to win? Aren't smart enough to see the pipeline of talent coming from Canadian high schools/PSIs?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on December 19, 2018, 05:41:48 PM
If true, where's the proof? Show me the successful Canadian quarterbacks? Why do so many CFL teams struggle to find and recruit quality national talent (especially depth)? Even most CFL teams consistantly rank non-imports who have played in the NCAA higher than CIS in the drafts. Look up the history (especially in the first round). Why doesn't the NFL sign more players directly from the CIS? The vast majority of the upper echelon of CIS talent is lucky to get a practice roster spot, and most are returned to the CFL after a couple years at most. Why is that? NFL teams (and college recruiting) don't like to win? Aren't smart enough to see the pipeline of talent coming from Canadian high schools/PSIs?


I don't think its unreasonable to posit that top CIS performers can compete with NCAA players for CFL spots.  I also think its fairly obvious that this only really only applies to top-end guys like a Fantuz or Sinopoli, and that the more typical CIS grads are grinding it out on specials.  I have to confess, that given two prospects where one is from NCAA and one from CIS, I tend to think the NCAA guy is going to be better.  Then I remember Carl Volny....

I don't buy the argument that teams "struggle" to find Canadian talent.  The reason we don't see more top performers who are Canadian is because we have allowed the ratio rules to be manipulated to allow it.  The expansion of the DI role, along with the shrinking of the ratio requirement means that fewer Canadians get the time and reps to really grow into excellence.  Back in the day, Rick House could take a year to grow into the spot, and then actually see some targets in his second year and go onto an excellent career.  Today, he'd be gunning on special teams and hope to get thrown out there as a decoy at field side WR eventually. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 19, 2018, 06:00:07 PM
I don't think its unreasonable to posit that top CIS performers can compete with NCAA players for CFL spots.  I also think its fairly obvious that this only really only applies to top-end guys like a Fantuz or Sinopoli, and that the more typical CIS grads are grinding it out on specials.  I have to confess, that given two prospects where one is from NCAA and one from CIS, I tend to think the NCAA guy is going to be better.  Then I remember Carl Volny....

I don't buy the argument that teams "struggle" to find Canadian talent.  The reason we don't see more top performers who are Canadian is because we have allowed the ratio rules to be manipulated to allow it.  The expansion of the DI role, along with the shrinking of the ratio requirement means that fewer Canadians get the time and reps to really grow into excellence.  Back in the day, Rick House could take a year to grow into the spot, and then actually see some targets in his second year and go onto an excellent career.  Today, he'd be gunning on special teams and hope to get thrown out there as a decoy at field side WR eventually. 

Sure, I think that's fair. And to be honest, some positions seem to have a further gap than others. Offensive lineman are closer (there's a reason Canadian teams draft as many of them as possible, it's because the skill difference tends to reduced). The skill positions are a different story usually. Jade Etienne?. For all the potential Simonise and Petermann have, Wolitartsky is head and shoulders better and he played his ball at Minnesota. Good cover corners are rarely Canadian. Linebackers overall are import spots although there are a few notable examples. We started Sam Hurl at linebacker for an entire year exclusively because of his passport. Safety tends to skew Canadian but you've got to put your 7 starters somewhere. Generally, most teams in the CFL have a few Canadians who truly belong, a couple who start mostly because you need seven and depth that nobody wants to find just how much of a step down it is. Not exactly glowing proof of the strong pipeline of talent coming from the CIS.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 19, 2018, 06:08:30 PM
Well, I don't think many are going to agree with you on this one.

It's not really an inferiority complex. It has to do with the fact that football is a bigger deal in the US than in Canada, and they have 10x as many people.

That's what I said.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Waffler on December 19, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
.I seen High School teams in California and Texas with teams that would probably beat, or at the least give CIS teams a good run for their money....no joke!

At the skill positions you are going to have some American kids stand out, no question.  However I think line play is going to be so lopsided in favor of the university guys, some of whom are 25 years old, there is no way 18 year old kids are going to hold up the entire game. The Canadian University just needs to play a conservative, contain and grind them down game to win.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 19, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
If true, where's the proof? Show me the successful Canadian quarterbacks? Why do so many CFL teams struggle to find and recruit quality national talent (especially depth)? Even most CFL teams consistantly rank non-imports who have played in the NCAA higher than CIS in the drafts. Look up the history (especially in the first round). Why doesn't the NFL sign more players directly from the CIS? The vast majority of the upper echelon of CIS talent is lucky to get a practice roster spot, and most are returned to the CFL after a couple years at most. Why is that? NFL teams (and college recruiting) don't like to win? Aren't smart enough to see the pipeline of talent coming from Canadian high schools/PSIs?


There are quality QB's that would be able to play quite well in the CFL, but the ratio rules make it favourable to have an American playing at that position because they get better coaching growing up. The best Canadian QB that I ever saw or competed against was Greg Vavra from the U of Calgary, an amazing player that could have played QB in the CFL, but like Sinopoli had to play receiver. There are more and more Canadians being drafted, signing or being considered in the NFL than ever before, ask yourself why.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on December 19, 2018, 07:02:46 PM
I don't mind being called out and challenged on it...and never said any highschool team or JUCO team would thump em or give them (CIS) teams A GOOD RUN FOR THEIR MONEY....  BUT many would....and yeah some Canucks made  A JUCO team after not making their Canadian team...so they just quit at end of camp and went south?..seems highly suspect, and some JUCO loops are garbage ball...especially the ones in the Northern parts of the U.S...that I will give you in your argument.

But further south and especially on the coast many are DIV 1 calibre but are in JUCO for a myriad of reasons..not talent reasons or lack there of.

I find it hard to believe all this top tier first round NFL talent that you faced in the CIS fell through the cracks and never became first rounders in the NFL draft, as they were much better than the Sports Illustrated ranked guys...do you have names of said NCaa guy who sucked in comparison to the CIS competition?

I've seen U.S highschool teams have O-lines average 300+ pounds as seniors and all go on to start in top NCAA programs the following year and you would be hard pressed to find 5 guys in all of the CIS who could be dominat starters in the same programs, and it's not like they have no opportunity..especially these days because if they were good enough..they would be there already...like 99 percent of the talented Canadian kids are, and the rest stay in CIS schools....to tell me a kid would balk at a scholarship and all that went with a top U.S college to play CIS ball is laughable...at least with all the players former and current that I have worked with



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on December 19, 2018, 07:25:56 PM
I don't mind being called out and challenged on it...and never said any highschool team or JUCO team would thump em or give them (CIS) teams A GOOD RUN FOR THEIR MONEY....  BUT many would....and yeah some Canucks made  A JUCO team after not making their Canadian team...so they just quit at end of camp and went south?..seems highly suspect, and some JUCO loops are garbage ball...especially the ones in the Northern parts of the U.S...that I will give you in your argument.

But further south and especially on the coast many are DIV 1 calibre but are in JUCO for a myriad of reasons..not talent reasons or lack there of.

I find it hard to believe all this top tier first round NFL talent that you faced in the CIS fell through the cracks and never became first rounders in the NFL draft, as they were much better than the Sports Illustrated ranked guys...do you have names of said NCaa guy who sucked in comparison to the CIS competition?

I've seen U.S highschool teams have O-lines average 300+ pounds as seniors and all go on to start in top NCAA programs the following year and you would be hard pressed to find 5 guys in all of the CIS who could be dominat starters in the same programs, and it's not like they have no opportunity..especially these days because if they were good enough..they would be there already...like 99 percent of the talented Canadian kids are, and the rest stay in CIS schools....to tell me a kid would balk at a scholarship and all that went with a top U.S college to play CIS ball is laughable...at least with all the players former and current that I have worked with



Never said a kid would balk at the chance for a scholarship to a US school, that is something you are trying to pin on me. My point is...Canadian players in the CIS have talent and can compete with American players in fact our younger kids are beating their American opponents in head to head games down south. The guy from the University of Northern Arizona Lumberjacks that I was referring to was a fellow named James Guy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 27, 2018, 02:57:03 AM
BOMBERS ADD TWO TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., December 26, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed national defensive back Jacob Firlotte and International linebacker Otha Peters Jr.

Firlotte (6-3, 216, Queen`s University, May 29, 1996 in Abbotsford, BC) was selected 58th overall in the 2018 CFL Draft by the Blue Bombers and spent part of last season on the club's practice roster. Firlotte spent four seasons with the Queen's Gaels, playing in 30 games, and recording 49 solo tackles and three interceptions during that time.

Peters (6-0, 235, Louisiana-Lafayette, February 27, 1994 in Covington, Louisiana) played two season with the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns, totalling 162 tackles, two sacks, two fumble recoveries and four pass deflections in 25 games. In 2017, Peters signed with the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent. He also spent time with the Washington Redskins and Kansas City Chiefs, playing in three NFL games.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/26/bombers-add-two-roster-6/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/12/26/bombers-add-two-roster-6/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 27, 2018, 03:16:30 AM
Spoiler: There have been no reports of Santos-Knox or Jeffcoat or any other Bombers having NFL workouts.

The CFL related NFL workout tracker
Posted on December 26, 2018 by 3Down Staff

Many high-profile CFL players have been strutting their stuff for NFL teams since the 2018 Grey Cup was won by the Calgary Stampeders.

Players are trying to impress and land a contract in the four-down league. NFL teams can sign players to futures contracts on Dec. 31, the day after the end of the regular season.

Here's a list of the workouts we know about compiled from various sources including Howard Balzer on Twitter and our own Justin Dunk and we'll update the list as warranted. (If you're a player reading the list and don't see your workouts listed let us know).

Bo Levi Mitchell, QB, Calgary Stampeders
Mike Reilly, QB, Edmonton Eskimos
Alex Singleton, LB, Calgary Stampeders
Duke Williams, REC, Edmonton Eskimos
Sam Eguavoen, LB, Saskatchewan Roughriders
Kwaku Boateng, DE, Edmonton Eskimos
Dakoda Shepley, OL, rights owned by the Saskatchewan Roughriders
Jameer Thurman, LB, Calgary Stampeders
Avery Ellis, DL, Ottawa Redblacks
Ty Long, K, B.C. Lions
Bryant Mitchell, REC, Edmonton Eskimos
Ryker Mathews, OL, Hamilton Tiger-Cats
Tevaughn Campbell, DB, Montreal Alouettes
Winston Rose, DB, B.C. Lions
Diontae Spencer, REC, Ottawa Redblacks
Chris Ackie, DB-LB, Ottawa Redblacks
James Vaughters, DL, Calgary Stampeders
Marken Michel, REC, Calgary Stampeders
Jordan Williams-Lambert, REC, Saskatchewan Roughriders
Tobi Antigha, DB, Saskatchewan Roughriders
Chris Edwards, DB, Edmonton Eskimos
Dexter McCoil, LB-DB, free agent
Mercy Maston, DB, Edmonton Eskimos
Jake Ceresna, DL, Edmonton Eskimos
Terry Williams, RB/RET, Calgary Stampeders

http://3downnation.com/2018/12/26/the-cfl-related-nfl-workout-tracker/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/12/26/the-cfl-related-nfl-workout-tracker/)
Note; Checkout the article for the teams that the players have tried out for.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 27, 2018, 04:38:48 PM
The hype is on BLM receiving an offer but it wouldn't shock me if Reilly gets one first, despite his age he's going to impress any team that works him out enough with his ability and toughness that they might be willing to gamble on a few years of instant production.  I think he'd make a great #2 QB in the NFL, especially when compared honestly against many of his rookie competitors.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on December 27, 2018, 10:53:53 PM
The hype is on BLM receiving an offer but it wouldn't shock me if Reilly gets one first, despite his age he's going to impress any team that works him out enough with his ability and toughness that they might be willing to gamble on a few years of instant production.  I think he'd make a great #2 QB in the NFL, especially when compared honestly against many of his rookie competitors.

That would shock me.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on December 28, 2018, 03:38:39 PM
Wasn't JSK getting some love down south?  Surprising no Bombers at all on that list.  I saw a piece where Streveler was listed as having potential looks, except he does not have the NFL window in his deal. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on December 28, 2018, 04:32:02 PM
Finally a workout by a Bomber. Jeffcoat worked out for the Bengals.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 04, 2019, 08:44:57 PM
BOMBERS EXTEND CONTRACT OF NATIONAL FULLBACK JOHN RUSH, SIGN DEFENSIVE BACK ERIC PATTERSON

WINNIPEG, MB.,  January 4, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed national fullback John Rush to a two-year extension, and also signed international defensive back Eric Patterson.

Rush has spent the past two seasons with Winnipeg, playing in 31 games and recording seven special teams tackles. Rush was set to become a free agent next month.

Patterson (5-10, 193, Ball State University, February 5, 1993 in Tampa, FL) played four seasons with the Ball State University Cardinals, playing in 41 total games and starting 28 times. In his collegiate career, he recorded 189 total tackles and had six interceptions. In his senior season, he had 23 kick returns and averaged 25.7 yards.  Patterson was signed as an undrafted free agent by the New England Patriots in 2015 and has been on the Indianapolis Colts, St. Louis Rams, and Cleveland Browns' practice squads. He returns to the Blue Bombers after signing with the club in January, 2018.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/04/bombers-extend-contract-national-fullback-john-rush-sign-defensive-back-eric-patterson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/04/bombers-extend-contract-national-fullback-john-rush-sign-defensive-back-eric-patterson/)

Patterson was signed last Jan 11 and transferred to the suspended list on May 20.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 04, 2019, 09:57:43 PM
Another note: Hardrick, Briggs and Miller's contracts were all made official on Jan 3. Any signing bonuses would be going against the 2019 cap.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Ricky Bobby on January 07, 2019, 01:33:34 PM
Just heard on TSN1290 that Medlock was re-signed for 2 more years

**fixed for ards the grammar police


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on January 07, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
WPG Blue Bombers Verified account @Wpg_BlueBombers

The team has agreed to terms on a two-year contract extension with kicker Justin Medlock.

http://ow.ly/QO1v30ncZik 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 07, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Just heard on TSN1290 that Medlock was resigned for 2 more years

Resigned means quit.  Re-signed means he signed a new contract.  Punctuation is important...

Just heard on TSN1290 that Medlock was re-signed for 2 more years

**fixed for ards the grammar police

Thanks ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Ricky Bobby on January 07, 2019, 03:00:42 PM
Resigned means quit.  Re-signed means he signed a new contract.  Punctuation is important...


 ::)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 08, 2019, 01:14:02 PM
BOMBERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH DEFENSIVE TACKLE JAKE THOMAS ON ONE-YEAR EXTENSION

WINNIPEG, MB., January 8, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with Canadian defensive tackle Jake Thomas.

Thomas will be entering his eighth CFL season in 2019, all with Winnipeg. He has recorded 92 defensive tackles, 13 sacks, three forced fumbles and one interception in 119 games played (25 starts). In 2018, Thomas recorded three sacks, 17 defensive tackles and two forced fumbles while appearing in all 18 games and both playoff contests. Thomas was originally drafted by the Bombers 29th overall in the 2012 CFL Draft.

"I'm very excited to be returning for my eighth year with the Bombers," said Thomas. "Winnipeg and the organization have become like a second home to me, and to be able to have another shot at our ultimate goal is something I am very appreciative for."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/08/bombers-agree-terms-defensive-tackle-jake-thomas-one-year-extension/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/08/bombers-agree-terms-defensive-tackle-jake-thomas-one-year-extension/)

Darren Cameron   @Darren_Cameron  52 minutes ago
#Bombers have agreed to terms with national defensive tackle Jake Thomas on one-year extension. The 2019 season will be Thomas' eighth in the CFL - all with Winnipeg - since being selected 29th overall in the 2012 CFL Draft.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on January 08, 2019, 01:58:06 PM
From not being re-signed to getting extended in the next year's off season. Good for Jake.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 08, 2019, 02:05:51 PM
17 Tackles, 3 sacks and 2 forced fuimbles.  Not bad for a rotational player.  Solid guy in the lockerroom as well, and if he gets another int, you can bet it will fun as a basket of puppies to watch his celebration...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 09, 2019, 04:36:45 PM
as much as a rag on Thomas, his stat line was better than Zack Evans of the Riders and at about a third of the cost...plus he plays on most ST's...never really got all the jubilation on the Rider board for that signing...very over rated D-Tackle if you ask me


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on January 09, 2019, 11:51:53 PM
as much as a rag on Thomas, his stat line was better than Zack Evans of the Riders and at about a third of the cost...plus he plays on most ST's...never really got all the jubilation on the Rider board for that signing...very over rated D-Tackle if you ask me

He had a good year in Ottawa a couple years ago...but yeah...I thought he played pretty soft against the run and didn't generate much push last year. Ottawa DTs...ALL DTs seem to flame out in Jones defensive systems. He asks his DTs to move laterally too much imo.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 10, 2019, 01:08:52 PM
Yesterday moves:

BOMBERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH LONG SNAPPER CHAD REMPEL ON TWO-YEAR EXTENSION


WINNIPEG, MB., January 9, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national long snapper Chad Rempel to a two year contract. Rempel was scheduled to become a free agent next month.

The 2019 season will be Rempel's fifth with Winnipeg after signing as a free agent prior to the 2015 campaign. Rempel returns to work with kicker Justin Medlock, who has been named the team's Most Outstanding Special Teams Player for three consecutive seasons. He has appeared in all 72 regular season games and four postseason contests as a Bomber.

"Chad brings an extreme wealth of special teams knowledge to the field, locker room and meeting rooms," said General Manager Kyle Walters. "Most importantly, he is as good as anybody in our league at what he does and is a big piece of our kicking game."

Rempel has played 197 career regular season CFL games, 12 playoff games and one Grey Cup. The long snapper started his career with Winnipeg in 2005 and moved on to play seven seasons for Toronto and one for Hamilton (2008) before spending the 2013 season with the Chicago Bears. He returned to the CFL for the last half of the 2014 season with Saskatchewan. The 2019 season will be Rempel's 15th in the CFL.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/09/bombers-agree-terms-long-snapper-chad-rempel-two-year-extension/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/09/bombers-agree-terms-long-snapper-chad-rempel-two-year-extension/)


BOMBERS RELEASE CORNERBACK CHRIS RANDLE

WINNIPEG, MB., January 9, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has released international cornerback Chris Randle.
 
Statement from Winnipeg Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters:
 
"Roster decisions like these are never easy to make. Some are harder than others, and this certainly was a tough one. Chris has been the definition of a consummate professional in every facet of his game, both on and off the field, since we acquired him. Our organization cannot thank him enough for everything he has given us, and we wish him and his family the best moving forward."
 
Randle has spent the past five seasons in Winnipeg after being acquired in a trade prior to the 2014 season. He appeared in 75 games for the Bombers during that time, recording 217 defensive tackles, 45 special teams tackles, two sacks, 12 interceptions, and three forced fumbles.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/09/bombers-release-cornerback-chris-randle/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/09/bombers-release-cornerback-chris-randle/)

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
As far as the roster implication of the move, the #Bombers have a lot to consider, with more than just Adam Bighill to try to re-ink. Loffler, Alexander, Jeffcoat, and Santos-Knox are due healthy raises, while many others (just on defence) need new deals.

Randle made $135k in 2018, including bonuses, and was set to make more in 2019. It was no doubt a tough decision for GM Kyle Walters, but the football business is and has always been about cost-benefit. I have little doubt Randle will garner interest elsewhere in the @CFL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 10, 2019, 04:08:24 PM
OK, here's an "outside the box" idea....

Weston Dressler.  Sign him to a decent deal, and then 6 game him.  His salary while on the 6 game does not count against the cap.  Let him hold a cipboard, and assist Lapo with his second hat of "receivers coach".  He doesn't could against the FO cap.  We get an extra coach at no SMS cost.  And should we need him, he can get better after 6 games... save the preseason wear and tear on him. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 04:12:46 PM
OK, here's an "outside the box" idea....

Weston Dressler.  Sign him to a decent deal, and then 6 game him.  His salary while on the 6 game does not count against the cap.  Let him hold a cipboard, and assist Lapo with his second hat of "receivers coach".  He doesn't could against the FO cap.  We get an extra coach at no SMS cost.  And should we need him, he can get better after 6 games... save the preseason wear and tear on him. 
Um...no. you do realize you can't 6 game guys till TC, right


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 10, 2019, 04:45:06 PM
I think the writings on the wall for Dressler and he is unlikely to be re-signed, if Walters made the bold decision to cut Randle for salary reasons Dressler is probably the next name on the "not returning list" and they won't be making him an offer.  Hope it doesn't happen but won't be surprised if it does.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 10, 2019, 04:51:54 PM
Um...no. you do realize you can't 6 game guys till TC, right

And you don't pay them until after TC...  he can sit out TC to recover from his injury :) ;)  and then be placed on the 6 game before the first game....  no SMS money paid, but he gets his full cheque...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
And you don't pay them until after TC...  he can sit out TC to recover from his injury :) ;)  and then be placed on the 6 game before the first game....  no SMS money paid, but he gets his full cheque...

He also can't practice on the 6 game IR so it's generally a bad idea.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 05:33:04 PM
And you don't pay them until after TC...  he can sit out TC to recover from his injury :) ;)  and then be placed on the 6 game before the first game....  no SMS money paid, but he gets his full cheque...
That is so greasy. And I'm willing to bet if the Riders did it you'd want them to get in trouble


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 10, 2019, 05:50:32 PM
That is so greasy. And I'm willing to bet if the Riders did it you'd want them to get in trouble

If you ain't cheatin' you aren't tryin' hard enough...

It is totally within the rules, unlike pre-practice rosters, and such. 

He also can't practice on the 6 game IR so it's generally a bad idea.

What does Dressler need with practice?  If he doesn't know the scheme when he is actually coaching it, there's trouble.  And you can't practice with the team, but you can still work out...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 06:02:26 PM
If you ain't cheatin' you aren't tryin' hard enough...

It is totally within the rules, unlike pre-practice rosters, and such. 

What does Dressler need with practice?  If he doesn't know the scheme when he is actually coaching it, there's trouble.  And you can't practice with the team, but you can still work out...

I can tell the offseason is getting long for some of us. To answer your question: no. If Dressler actually had a big injury that's one thing. But if he doesn't, signing him, taking up a roster spot and IR-ing him the first chance we get with a bogus injury is greasy. If he wants to play, let him play, not jerk him around while he's healthy and have him "coach" when he wants to play


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 06:47:28 PM
well, it should go without saying that Dressler will legit be on the 6 game sometime during the year, we should be figuring that money in our budget as a matter of course... plus, practice will not make Dressler better, he's got it down pat as it is, maybe make other better, but not him... I'd hate to see him go, with our offensive scheme he is/will be needed... I'd cut Demski before I cut Dress, I think we have enough national talent at receiver we'd be ok...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue newt on January 10, 2019, 07:06:04 PM
well, it should go without saying that Dressler will legit be on the 6 game sometime during the year, we should be figuring that money in our budget as a matter of course... plus, practice will not make Dressler better, he's got it down pat as it is, maybe make other better, but not him... I'd hate to see him go, with our offensive scheme he is/will be needed... I'd cut Demski before I cut Dress, I think we have enough national talent at receiver we'd be ok...

I agree.

A lot is made of Dressler's age, but with age comes a certain amount of wisdom, and he knows football inside and out.  I'd also take him over Demski.  I like Demski, but I didn't see any growth from him as the season progressed, which I was expecting/hoping.  Whether that's the fault of coaching, or whether it's him falling back on familiar patterns and play, I can't say.  He has such potential, but he seems to have plateau'd.  If they re-sign Demski, great, but if they don't, I won't be too worried.  I *would* like to see Dressler re-signed though.  We have a fairly young group of receivers, and no receivers coach.  Dressler's experience and leadership is worth his value, in my opinion.  I'd been kinda hoping we would sign him as a coach, but with the new cap, that's not going to happen. 




Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
plus, if we're committed to Nichols we need Dressler... Nichols plays a lot better with Dressler in the lineup... I think it makes Matt more confident knowing Dressler is an option... I believe our record is substantially better with Dressler playing than when not, whether he is catching the ball or not. Some announcer last year was speaking to that during one of the games, can't remember who or when exactly though...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 10, 2019, 07:14:52 PM
Demski in my opinion is a want...versus a need for us to be honest..especially if he is gonna be 130k or more.
I'd be more than happy with Simonese replacing Drew outside and moving him inside...Simonese has a way higher ceiling than Demski does now, and could play the role Drew did and learn on the fly and develop over the season and by mid season most likely start being focused on in the game plan.

He can be a real mismatch outside and will only get better with reps...he paid his dues on teams last year and did what was asked of him..he actually got more game time this year than Drew did in year one, so he isn't a fresh faced newbie any more


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 07:17:25 PM
what booch said... at this point in Demski's career, he's probably just about reached his ceiling... plus, like years past, he seems to just disappear for long periods of time through out the year, for whatever reason... he did the same at Sask...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 07:18:36 PM
Demski in my opinion is a want...versus a need for us to be honest..especially if he is gonna be 130k or more.
I'd be more than happy with Simonese replacing Drew outside and moving him inside...Simonese has a way higher ceiling than Demski does now, and could play the role Drew did and learn on the fly and develop over the season and by mid season most likely start being focused on in the game plan.

He can be a real mismatch outside and will only get better with reps...he paid his dues on teams last year and did what was asked of him..he actually got more game time this year than Drew did in year one, so he isn't a fresh faced newbie any more
This. We have too many holes to fill/re-sign. Demski really isn't worth potentially sacrificing Chungh or Loffler for


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 07:19:40 PM
well, it should go without saying that Dressler will legit be on the 6 game sometime during the year, we should be figuring that money in our budget as a matter of course... plus, practice will not make Dressler better, he's got it down pat as it is, maybe make other better, but not him... I'd hate to see him go, with our offensive scheme he is/will be needed... I'd cut Demski before I cut Dress, I think we have enough national talent at receiver we'd be ok...

Game shape and timing are worked out or on in practice. That applies to veterans as well. Playbooks change and game plans are adjusted week to week. That's why he needs to be able to practice.

How many times have we seen actual veterans come back healthy after an injury and be eased back into being ready to play.

Cutting Demski as a Canadian starter for any reason is absurd.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 07:21:39 PM
Game shape and timing are worked out or on in practice. That applies to veterans as well. Playbooks change and game plans are adjusted week to week. That's why he needs to be able to practice.

How many times have we seen actual veterans come back healthy after an injury and be eased back into being ready to play.

Cutting Demski as a Canadian starter for any reason is absurd.
Demski won't get cut. He's a pending FA. I for one hope we don't re-sign him if it costs us a lot. Petermann and Simonise deserve a legit shot. Plus it's not like Nichols spreads the ball around much.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 07:23:30 PM
Demski won't get cut. He's a pending FA. I for one hope we don't re-sign him if it costs us a lot. Petermann and Simonise deserve a legit shot. Plus it's not like Nichols spreads the ball around much.

exactly


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 07:24:52 PM
Demski won't get cut. He's a pending FA. I for one hope we don't re-sign him if it costs us a lot. Petermann and Simonise deserve a legit shot. Plus it's not like Nichols spreads the ball around much.

So is Dressler a pending FA.

Lots of comments about 6 gaming him but now we want to not re-sign Demski? Demski was our 3rd leading receiver and only missed 1 game. Dressler missed 5 games.

SMS is a factor for both players. Petermann and Simonise should get more reps but that doesn't mean Demski is expendable.

Don't like over paying Canadians, get rid of the ratio to solve the problem.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 07:49:55 PM
So is Dressler a pending FA.

Lots of comments about 6 gaming him but now we want to not re-sign Demski? Demski was our 3rd leading receiver and only missed 1 game. Dressler missed 5 games.

SMS is a factor for both players. Petermann and Simonise should get more reps but that doesn't mean Demski is expendable.

Don't like over paying Canadians, get rid of the ratio to solve the problem.

yet Demski out gained 19 more yards than Dressler, 2 fewer TDs, and 8 games with 2 or fewer receptions...  I think Peterman or Simonese could replace that production without causing a ratio problem...

I don't know if getting rid of the ratio will ever fly, however, I do believe there is, or should be, an argument for revisiting how it is applied/implemented in order to make the league better.  And better includes being financially sound...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 07:57:47 PM
yet Demski out gained 19 more yards than Dressler, 2 fewer TDs, and 8 games with 2 or fewer receptions...  I think Peterman or Simonese could replace that production without causing a ratio problem...

I don't know if getting rid of the ratio will ever fly, however, I do believe there is, or should be, an argument for revisiting how it is applied/implemented in order to make the league better.  And better includes being financially sound...

Getting rid of the ratio obviously would fly. The comment was more about replacing starting Canadians with not really proven depth and lacking depth to replace that depth. The other comment was that Dressler has had more games lost due to injury. Continuity is also an issue.

Petermann and Simonise have upside.  They are different types of players than Demski. I don't know if we can or will want to sign Demski based on SMS. We sign him in 2018 and he provided output neither of Petermann or Simonise have YET.

Another part of what you're discounting is that Demski also provided yardage as a RB and did some return work.

Whether we can or want to re-sign Demski is not known today. Well Walters and O'Shea know but we as fans don't.

If we replace him one way or the other with someone that is younger, costs less and provides better output I'll be as happy as the next guy.

Contemplating replacing starting Canadians is a slippery slope. Sometimes you don't have a choice due to free agency. Other times you have to take a chance due to SMS or belief in the back ups.





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on January 10, 2019, 08:20:48 PM


Cutting Demski as a Canadian starter for any reason is absurd.

Agree 100%.  Demski was very productive for us.  Petermann has shown flashes and Simonise has shown even less.   We paid up for Demski, so he should not need a big raise to stay in place. 

If Petermann and Simonise show well, we could start 3 Canadian receivers. That would make a heckuva lot more sense than to start discarding quality NI receivers when we finally have a few. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 10, 2019, 08:22:12 PM
Game shape and timing are worked out or on in practice. That applies to veterans as well. Playbooks change and game plans are adjusted week to week. That's why he needs to be able to practice.

How many times have we seen actual veterans come back healthy after an injury and be eased back into being ready to play.

Cutting Demski as a Canadian starter for any reason is absurd.

It's not absurd if keeping Demski in the line-up means one of Chung or Goosen is replaced by Couture as your starter...as you blew your wad to keep Biggie and JSK and Demski's 145k prevented the bumps in salary that Chungh and Goosen will need.

Woli in the slot with Simonese on the boundary with an intact o-line makes way more sense than Demski dippsy doodling for no yards a lot of the time and the occasional big game while you have a suspect O-line


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 08:23:13 PM
Getting rid of the ratio obviously would fly. The comment was more about replacing starting Canadians with not really proven depth and lacking depth to replace that depth. The other comment was that Dressler has had more games lost due to injury. Continuity is also an issue.

Petermann and Simonise have upside.  They are different types of players than Demski. I don't know if we can or will want to sign Demski based on SMS. We sign him in 2018 and he provided output neither of Petermann or Simonise have YET.

Another part of what you're discounting is that Demski also provided yardage as a RB and did some return work.

Whether we can or want to re-sign Demski is not known today. Well Walters and O'Shea know but we as fans don't.

If we replace him one way or the other with someone that is younger, costs less and provides better output I'll be as happy as the next guy.

Contemplating replacing starting Canadians is a slippery slope. Sometimes you don't have a choice due to free agency. Other times you have to take a chance due to SMS or belief in the back ups.






definitely not advocating that we don't consider Demski, just that the deal make sense relative to the contribution... my only issue with Demski is how he seems to just vanish at times... that and I don't care for his running style, but that could maybe still be coached out of him...

but let me ask you this, and it's a serious question that I'd love your take on it.... how do we get players like Peterman or Simonese, or any other player that seem to have potential, on the field and with meaningful opportunity? I don't understand our logic here... we seem to have a pattern of signing guys and parking them on the PR and then cut them with little playing time... rinse and repeat...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 08:25:43 PM
It's not absurd if keeping Demski in the line-up means one of Chung or Goosen is replaced by Couture as your starter...as you blew your wad to keep Biggie and JSK and Demski's 145k prevented the bumps in salary that Chungh and Goosen will need.

Woli in the slot with Simonese on the boundary with an intact o-line makes way more sense than Demski dippsy doodling for no yards a lot of the time and the occasional big game while you have a suspect O-line

Sure but this is still all conjecture. We don't know in fact we can re-sign Goossen or Chungh. We did add Gray.

Actually depending on Gray's expectation, I wonder if Neufeld becomes trade bait in order to have more money to sign the other 3 players on the OL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 08:28:35 PM

definitely not advocating that we don't consider Demski, just that the deal make sense relative to the contribution... my only issue with Demski is how he seems to just vanish at times... that and I don't care for his running style, but that could maybe still be coached out of him...

but let me ask you this, and it's a serious question that I'd love your take on it.... how do we get players like Peterman or Simonese, or any other player that seem to have potential, on the field and with meaningful opportunity? I don't understand our logic here... we seem to have a pattern of signing guys and parking them on the PR and then cut them with little playing time... rinse and repeat...

Dressler and Adams have been known to disappear at times as well. Defenses scheme and offenses re-scheme around what defenses do as in game adjustments.

O'Shea and Lapo seem reluctant to rotate in some of the depth players when opportunities arise. IE: Big leads one way or another.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 08:31:44 PM
Agree 100%.  Demski was very productive for us.  Petermann has shown flashes and Simonise has shown even less.   We paid up for Demski, so he should not need a big raise to stay in place. 

If Petermann and Simonise show well, we could start 3 Canadian receivers. That would make a heckuva lot more sense than to start discarding quality NI receivers when we finally have a few. 

Simonise only had 5 balls thrown his way last yea, of which he caught 4 with 2 of them for over 30 yards... it seems to me that he made the most of the opportunity he was given... Petermann was a little more spotty but I like the way he plays... it was in one of the final games of last year that he looked like a bull in a china cabinet hustling for extra yards after a reception... he has good size and I like his hustle...

At this point, given the history we have with receivers in general, I'd be ok with starting 3 national receivers... I honestly believe that any of our national receivers could make any team roster regardless of nationality...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 10, 2019, 08:33:05 PM
Sure but this is still all conjecture. We don't know in fact we can re-sign Goossen or Chungh. We did add Gray.

Actually depending on Gray's expectation, I wonder if Neufeld becomes trade bait in order to have more money to sign the other 3 players on the OL.

Pretty certain you will see Chungh and Goosen re-signed within the weeks leading up to free-agency...those guys aren't going anywhere. I'd hate to see Neuf go as he is a valuable peice to the puzzle and a respected leader, but if Gray is as advertised, and there is the trade option to acquire a National starter on defense..say at D-Tackle...you pull the trigger on that and you have ratio options again on defense and the ability to just start 1 Canadian receiver if you want, or go all import in the linebacking/secondary


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 08:34:28 PM
Dressler and Adams have been known to disappear at times as well. Defenses scheme and offenses re-scheme around what defenses do as in game adjustments.

O'Shea and Lapo seem reluctant to rotate in some of the depth players when opportunities arise. IE: Big leads one way or another.


which is another good point, for Dressler... you know, even though he is getting older, he commands coverage respect from any defense which in turn can help other receivers to get open... I wasn't a huge fan of Dressler at first, but will admit, I don't think there is another receiver out that will out hustle the guy and he seems to have a real knack for getting open...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 08:42:28 PM
Pretty certain you will see Chungh and Goosen re-signed within the weeks leading up to free-agency...those guys aren't going anywhere. I'd hate to see Neuf go as he is a valuable peice to the puzzle and a respected leader, but if Gray is as advertised, and there is the trade option to acquire a National starter on defense..say at D-Tackle...you pull the trigger on that and you have ratio options again on defense and the ability to just start 1 Canadian receiver if you want, or go all import in the linebacking/secondary

Yeah Neufeld is valuable and Gray might not be able to start game 1 etc etc.  Just thinking out loud about the cumulative cost on the OL and something might have to give. Bryant and Hardrick probably got a bit more. Goossen and Chungh certainly will. Gray probably didn't sign cheap.

I do have some concerns that Chungh may consider Vancouver as a local boy just as Loffler might as well.

Two 1st round draft picks are another option in trade to acquire another starter. Or who we draft at which position may be indicative of other plans.

We can't pay everybody so I'm just waiting to see who gets signed and who doesn't. It's more complicated this season with so many starters as potential FA's


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 10, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Thing with Goose and Chungh...they aren't on entry level deals, so their bumps won't be as drastic. Loffler though is still on his rookie deal...so that makes you think he will command double what he most likely making now..or close to it...so he may get priced out of our budget as he was a 3rd rounder was he not?..so not making a ton on his first deal


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 08:50:57 PM
which is another good point, for Dressler... you know, even though he is getting older, he commands coverage respect from any defense which in turn can help other receivers to get open... I wasn't a huge fan of Dressler at first, but will admit, I don't think there is another receiver out that will out hustle the guy and he seems to have a real knack for getting open...

In a perfect world Dressler wants to come back and takes a cut including something in regard to games played bonus. That might appease both sides ( management and fans ) but not necessarily Dressler himself.

I expect he'll be back but I'm not certain of that either. What we may see is that we choose one of Dressler or Demski as an SMS decision. What the trickle down impact of that will be we're just speculating.

Also coming into play is that most of us feel LaFrance won't be back to save some SMS. I'd be more comfortable with Augustine AND Demski as back ups than just Augustine.

After all Demski was used as a hybrid SB/RB. Augustine might be more of a true RB but again, he's had limited opportunities.

So our receiver and RB starting and depth are linked together especially with Lapo as our OC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 08:55:39 PM
Thing with Goose and Chungh...they aren't on entry level deals, so their bumps won't be as drastic. Loffler though is still on his rookie deal...so that makes you think he will command double what he most likely making now..or close to it...so he may get priced out of our budget as he was a 3rd rounder was he not?..so not making a ton on his first deal

Good points and they have chosen to extend previously. Getting priced out of our budget is a concern for several of our players both Canadian and Imports.

I'm fine with losing players even those I really like. It all comes down to a solution that works. There are solutions but I'm not convinced they are necessarily currently part of our roster.

Note that I could be wrong. Somebody like Conteh could step up as our next safety. Loffler did become the full time starter in year 1.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 08:56:40 PM
So is Dressler a pending FA.

Lots of comments about 6 gaming him but now we want to not re-sign Demski? Demski was our 3rd leading receiver and only missed 1 game. Dressler missed 5 games.

SMS is a factor for both players. Petermann and Simonise should get more reps but that doesn't mean Demski is expendable.

Don't like over paying Canadians, get rid of the ratio to solve the problem.
Only one who wants to sign and 6 game Dressler is aards. Some want him back and some don't. Demski is expendable for the right price tho. He was on and off last year and definitely isn't worth a big contract. Of course ideally we can keep him but I'd rather focus his money on DB, OL and Biggie


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 09:02:31 PM

definitely not advocating that we don't consider Demski, just that the deal make sense relative to the contribution... my only issue with Demski is how he seems to just vanish at times... that and I don't care for his running style, but that could maybe still be coached out of him...

but let me ask you this, and it's a serious question that I'd love your take on it.... how do we get players like Peterman or Simonese, or any other player that seem to have potential, on the field and with meaningful opportunity? I don't understand our logic here... we seem to have a pattern of signing guys and parking them on the PR and then cut them with little playing time... rinse and repeat...

Back to the question or comment about rinse and repeat. Many of us have had the same questions during the O'Shea regime.

It's not necessarily been a bad thing but there are times when we've wondered what the heck.

Who was the real back up RB in 2018? Many thought that's why we kept Flanders and maybe it was but then it always came back to the ratio question. Nobody really ever gave a practical solution.

Sure. Some said start Conteh over Fogg at CB. Start Briggs at WIL or Start 3 Canadian receivers.

It's not that I dislike Flanders but once again I'm not expecting him back in 2019. We'll probably have another import rookie on the PR but how we get him on the roster will still always be the question.

I was annoyed that LaFrance didn't get more reps to see what he could actually do. He may have flamed out but you can't really criticize his lack of success fairly either.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 09:06:22 PM
Only one who wants to sign and 6 game Dressler is aards. Some want him back and some don't. Demski is expendable for the right price tho. He was on and off last year and definitely isn't worth a big contract. Of course ideally we can keep him but I'd rather focus his money on DB, OL and Biggie

Canadians are often over paid. It's the nature of the ratio. I think we'll agree to disagree that he didn't earn his keep.  He had nearly 900 yards of offense. 2nd most attempts and 2nd most receptions, 3rd most yardage receiving but also added yardage as an RB.

Regardless. If we find another Canadian starter I'm good with that. I'm just reluctant to say TODAY that should be either Petermann or Simonise. And I have no real idea what we'd do at RB is Harris got hurt either in game or longer term.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 09:34:38 PM
Back to the question or comment about rinse and repeat. Many of us have had the same questions during the O'Shea regime.

It's not necessarily been a bad thing but there are times when we've wondered what the heck.

How was the real back RB in 2018? Many thought that's why we kept Flanders and maybe it was but then it always came back to the ratio question. Nobody really ever gave a practical solution.

Sure. Some said start Conteh over Fogg at CB. Start Briggs at WIL or Start 3 Canadian receivers.

It's not that I dislike Flanders but once again I'm not expecting him back in 2019. We'll probably have another import rookie on the PR but how we get him on the roster will still always be the question.

I was annoyed that LaFrance didn't get more reps to see what he could actually do. He may have flamed out but you can't really criticize his lack of success fairly either.

I'm with you on the whole Flanders deal, I like Flanders but once we were committed to the 2 national receiver line up I saw absolutely no reason to keep and pay him. And I'll be the first to admit that I thought that committing to the whole 2 national receiver ratio with only 1 national on defense would be the demise of the 2018 Bombers, but I was wrong, pleasantly wrong.

And, as Harris gets older and when our ratio is distributed as it is now, we do need a strategy on how to effectively manage Harris' work load and options in the event of his injury, and Demski currently provides that work load support.

The fear I have moving forward though, is, with limited SMS, 1 or 2 year tops contracts, and the continuing practice of paying national talent a significant premium, the ability to keep a team together will become impossible and eventually, it will become almost impossible to pay any import player, other than QBs anything much above minimum. It seems like a losing proposition to assemble a team, finally getting them to play together and a year later have to cut core players and start over...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 10, 2019, 09:37:40 PM
Canadians are often over paid. It's the nature of the ratio. I think we'll agree to disagree that he didn't earn his keep.  He had nearly 900 yards of offense. 2nd most attempts and 2nd most receptions, 3rd most yardage receiving but also added yardage as an RB.

Regardless. If we find another Canadian starter I'm good with that. I'm just reluctant to say TODAY that should be either Petermann or Simonise. And I have no real idea what we'd do at RB is Harris got hurt either in game or longer term.
I understand the overpaying aspect since he's Canadian. But we also have 3 other Canadian starters to sign. We can't overpay everyone, or else we won't have any money left. Demski is great but again, I'm not sure he's worth too much. This was his healthiest season, but the prior years Demski seemed to be injured a lot. I think right now at RB it would be Augustine over Demski. Demski is good once in awhile but I'm not sure if he is good for a full RB load


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on January 10, 2019, 09:49:57 PM
Get Goosen and Chungh signed first, then see what we have left over. Gotta assume those 2 are going to suck up a bunch of SMS room.

Demski played pretty well last year IMO, just not up to the amount he got paid. I'd take him back without a raise, but if he's looking for mo money, then I'd be happy to go forward without him.

Dressler is getting old, is expensive and can't play a full season anymore. I'd move on and yes... I know we've had problems finding good receivers.

Flanders isn't the RB we need due to passport, he can go and LaFrance can go with him. Augustine can carry the load if needed in game. If we lose Harris for a long time, then we need to re-jig the ratio anyway and bring in an import RB. If Flanders is sitting at home, maybe we would bring him back at that time.

I'm not interested in going with 3 NI receivers. We need to have at least one, preferably two, NI starters on D. That makes Loffler a must sign IMO. I've seen nothing that makes me think that Conteh can do the job.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 10, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
Get Goosen and Chungh signed first, then see what we have left over. Gotta assume those 2 are going to suck up a bunch of SMS room.

Demski played pretty well last year IMO, just not up to the amount he got paid. I'd take him back without a raise, but if he's looking for mo money, then I'd be happy to go forward without him.

Dressler is getting old, is expensive and can't play a full season anymore. I'd move on and yes... I know we've had problems finding good receivers.

Flanders isn't the RB we need due to passport, he can go and LaFrance can go with him. Augustine can carry the load if needed in game. If we lose Harris for a long time, then we need to re-jig the ratio anyway and bring in an import RB. If Flanders is sitting at home, maybe we would bring him back at that time.

I'm not interested in going with 3 NI receivers. We need to have at least one, preferably two, NI starters on D. That makes Loffler a must sign IMO. I've seen nothing that makes me think that Conteh can do the job.

but you know that he will want more money because I'm sure that he's smart enough to know that he's good enough that others in need of national talent will be more than happy to pay him more...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 10, 2019, 10:39:09 PM
Get Goosen and Chungh signed first, then see what we have left over. Gotta assume those 2 are going to suck up a bunch of SMS room.

Demski played pretty well last year IMO, just not up to the amount he got paid. I'd take him back without a raise, but if he's looking for mo money, then I'd be happy to go forward without him.

Dressler is getting old, is expensive and can't play a full season anymore. I'd move on and yes... I know we've had problems finding good receivers.

Flanders isn't the RB we need due to passport, he can go and LaFrance can go with him. Augustine can carry the load if needed in game. If we lose Harris for a long time, then we need to re-jig the ratio anyway and bring in an import RB. If Flanders is sitting at home, maybe we would bring him back at that time.

I'm not interested in going with 3 NI receivers. We need to have at least one, preferably two, NI starters on D. That makes Loffler a must sign IMO. I've seen nothing that makes me think that Conteh can do the job.

Can't disagree that Goossen and Chungh are higher priorities. As Booch pointed out they've already extended previously so the 2019 increase won't be a substantial jump.

In fairness the same is probably true about Demski.  Loffler is going to be the biggest salary jump after his ELC.

I suppose that was why I wondered whether Neufeld becomes expendable after adding Gray. That still requires re-signing Goossen and Chungh and having more insight to what management might expect from Gray.

It might be a decision made during TC about development, the draft and gains or losses during free agency. In 2018 we gave up draft position partially due to not being able to absorb high draft pick ELC's.

That may or may not be true in 2019 if we lose some of our Canadian starters. We may end up with a Canadian that is more starter ready at a lower cost than a given veteran.

I'd be happy to get them all back if we have a way to pay for that.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 10, 2019, 11:07:27 PM
Bryant, Hardricks, Goossen, Chungh and Gray with Neuf as the 6th man... killer Oline. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on January 11, 2019, 12:40:57 AM
I can't believe the people around here who want to get rid of Demski. We finally get a decent Canadian receiver and people want to replace him with players who are not only unproven but play a different receiver role. He does make a lot of money but that is what Canadian starters get. And you'll never see them eliminate the ratio. The CFLPA will never allow it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 11, 2019, 05:08:49 AM
I can't believe the people around here who want to get rid of Demski. We finally get a decent Canadian receiver and people want to replace him with players who are not only unproven but play a different receiver role. He does make a lot of money but that is what Canadian starters get. And you'll never see them eliminate the ratio. The CFLPA will never allow it.
Finally have a decent Canadian receiver? Drew Wolitarsky says hi. Also, of course no one wants to dump him but depth wise he is one of the easier canadians to replace not because of his role in the offense but because of his position. Again, you can't keep everyone and even if you can you surely can't also upgrade other positions via FA


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 11, 2019, 02:25:15 PM
Finally have a decent Canadian receiver? Drew Wolitarsky says hi. Also, of course no one wants to dump him but depth wise he is one of the easier canadians to replace not because of his role in the offense but because of his position. Again, you can't keep everyone and even if you can you surely can't also upgrade other positions via FA

Better look at Demski's stats and how his impact allowed Harris less wear and tear. Demski's receiving stats were better than Harris and reduced Harris's by nearly half.

It also made us less of a one man show and took defenses focus away from Harris as the sole running threat.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 11, 2019, 02:51:49 PM
I would hope Demski's receiving stats were better than Harris's....if they weren't then something is really wrong.
Sure he took some wear and tear away from Haris, but that could also be accomplished with Lapo calling a game plan to utilize more of the other weapons and not designing most of our plays within the box and first level and out in the flats...this is why we had stagnated somewhat, and had low offensive yardage totals.

We have everything confined for the most part to within the hash marks at the same level..rarely do you see layered routes and guys drawing defenders away from the LOS and first level....look back at games and see how the majority of our plays were to guys standing in a spot, or swung out in the flats, or a screen with multiple defenders within 5 yards of them...piss poor scheme if you ask me.

Rarely are we designing stuff hitting guys in stride on crossing patterns and flies, or layered 7 routes..which in itself would really open up stuff for the underneath plays to Harris and whomever is running a quick slant or screen as they would generally have only 1 guy to beat initially...not a swarm...and also lessening the shots Harris has to take.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 11, 2019, 03:20:54 PM
Better look at Demski's stats and how his impact allowed Harris less wear and tear. Demski's receiving stats were better than Harris and reduced Harris's by nearly half.

It also made us less of a one man show and took defenses focus away from Harris as the sole running threat.
Again. Not saying he's easy to lose. But he also disappeared for a few games, especially near the end it seemed. If he wants a raise on his salary from last year, that will be tough to fix


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 11, 2019, 03:31:27 PM
if he comes ..or wants to come back for basically what he made last year...which is reasonable as he didn't have a huge break out season, then that is doable, as long as we are just sticking with Augustine as the back-up RB type guy and letting Lafrance walk...having both is redundant and a waste of SMS allocation and I think Augustine is the better of the two, and still has untapped upside...Lafrance is what he is, and won't show anything more that hasn't been seen...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 11, 2019, 03:51:36 PM
I would hope Demski's receiving stats were better than Harris's....if they weren't then something is really wrong.
Sure he took some wear and tear away from Haris, but that could also be accomplished with Lapo calling a game plan to utilize more of the other weapons and not designing most of our plays within the box and first level and out in the flats...this is why we had stagnated somewhat, and had low offensive yardage totals.

We have everything confined for the most part to within the hash marks at the same level..rarely do you see layered routes and guys drawing defenders away from the LOS and first level....look back at games and see how the majority of our plays were to guys standing in a spot, or swung out in the flats, or a screen with multiple defenders within 5 yards of them...piss poor scheme if you ask me.

Rarely are we designing stuff hitting guys in stride on crossing patterns and flies, or layered 7 routes..which in itself would really open up stuff for the underneath plays to Harris and whomever is running a quick slant or screen as they would generally have only 1 guy to beat initially...not a swarm...and also lessening the shots Harris has to take.



While all of that is true it's Lapo's style as an OC. Are we really expecting him to change? So it makes more sense to have players that fit his schemes rather than try and fit square pegs into round holes per se.

I'd like to see more of what you've suggested. OTOH we lead the league in scoring and had an exciting offense to watch. Also Lapo's style helps with TOP which can't be discounted.

Although we only won 10 games they weren't far off from winning several more. Overall I think most of us are pleased with how competitive we were in 2018.

It's hard to figure whether our desire ( scheme ) is determining the players we seek, or whether the players we find are determining our scheme.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: bluebeard on January 11, 2019, 04:40:23 PM
Two great posts with valid points.  Keep up the great posts guys.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on January 11, 2019, 04:48:23 PM
While all of that is true it's Lapo's style as an OC. Are we really expecting him to change? So it makes more sense to have players that fit his schemes rather than try and fit square pegs into round holes per se.

I'd like to see more of what you've suggested. OTOH we lead the league in scoring and had an exciting offense to watch. Also Lapo's style helps with TOP which can't be discounted.

Although we only won 10 games they weren't far off from winning several more. Overall I think most of us are pleased with how competitive we were in 2018.

It's hard to figure whether our desire ( scheme ) is determining the players we seek, or whether the players we find are determining our scheme.


Competitive is nice....Grey Cups are better....the last time we won I was 40.   I'm hoping some day we win before I'm carted off to the drool academy!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 11, 2019, 04:59:46 PM
Competitive is nice....Grey Cups are better....the last time we won I was 40.   I'm hoping some day we win before I'm carted off to the drool academy!

That's funny, the last time we won I was drooling. Haha.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 11, 2019, 05:29:10 PM
Competitive is nice....Grey Cups are better....the last time we won I was 40.   I'm hoping some day we win before I'm carted off to the drool academy!

I know what if's don't mean much. I know Calgary had significant injuries going into the playoff.

It just seemed that our bad luck with losing JSK and Bighill's injuries tipped the scales towards the Stamps for the WDF on the day.

We lost the last two previous seasons in WSF by small margins after good leads evaporated.

Just seems we're snake bit at times. Just the wrong thing at the wrong time. It's hard to swallow I know.

Add to that we've lost the GC the last 5 times we've played in the game.92,93, 01,07 and 11


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 11, 2019, 05:38:54 PM
I know what if's don't mean much. I know Calgary had significant injuries going into the playoff.

It just seemed that our bad luck with losing JSK and Bighill's injuries tipped the scales towards the Stamps for the WDF on the day.

We lost the last two previous seasons in WSF by small margins after good leads evaporated.

Just seems we're snake bit at times. Just the wrong thing at the wrong time. It's hard to swallow I know.

Add to that we've lost the GC the last 5 times we've played in the game.92,93, 01,07 and 11

Honestly, the biggest difference that tipped the scales was that we played them at McMahon after they got a week bye. That's a huge advantage. Sure, they earned it but that was the hardest part to overcome. It's pretty darn hard to get out of the west without finishing first these days.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on January 11, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
I wouldn't give Demski a penny more than he made last year that's for sure. I like the guy and think he is an exciting player but he is inconsistent and struggles with taking care of the football.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Doublezero on January 11, 2019, 07:06:03 PM
Demski is a liability. Since he came into the CFL he's consistently had trouble with ball control: fumbles and tipped balls into opposing DBs hands. Not much of a kick returner either.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on January 11, 2019, 07:29:48 PM
Demski had his best year as a pro, and he will only get better. Ball control was an issue at times. He also wasn't brought in to return kicks. No team in the CFL has there top Canadian receivers returning punts or kick offs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 11, 2019, 07:50:30 PM
I can't believe the people around here who want to get rid of Demski. We finally get a decent Canadian receiver and people want to replace him with players who are not only unproven but play a different receiver role. He does make a lot of money but that is what Canadian starters get. And you'll never see them eliminate the ratio. The CFLPA will never allow it.

you are absolutely right... it's a shame really, the organization that is supposed to represent all of the players in the CFL, the CFLPA, seems to only be looking out for half of them...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on January 11, 2019, 08:31:33 PM
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/11/free-agent-forecast/

Pretty good synopsis by Ed Tait.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Knocker42 on January 11, 2019, 08:56:41 PM
That's funny, the last time we won I was drooling. Haha.
I was probably drooling too, but I was 47 and somewhat inebriated at the end.
I'll see another one even if i have to come back and haunt somebody!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on January 11, 2019, 10:07:51 PM
I know what if's don't mean much. I know Calgary had significant injuries going into the playoff.

It just seemed that our bad luck with losing JSK and Bighill's injuries tipped the scales towards the Stamps for the WDF on the day.

We lost the last two previous seasons in WSF by small margins after good leads evaporated.

Just seems we're snake bit at times. Just the wrong thing at the wrong time. It's hard to swallow I know.

Add to that we've lost the GC the last 5 times we've played in the game.92,93, 01,07 and 11
I was 26 the last time we won a Grey Cup. I also think that we are snake bit.
92-We play a Calgary team with Flutie at QB indoors.
93-The year we owned Edmonton during the regular season but lost Dunigan to an achilles injury in a meaningless game.
01-IMO the one that hurts the most. I still can't get over that one.
07=Kevin Glenn suffers a broken arm in the EF.
11-We had the defence but not a good offence and playing BC in BC Place didn't help.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 14, 2019, 11:50:16 PM
BOMBERS SELECT THREE PLAYERS IN INAUGURAL CFL/LFA DRAFT

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers, like all their Canadian Football League counterparts, have long scoured football fields south of the border for talent.

And now they've officially gone even further south.

The Bombers selected three players in the first-ever CFL/Liga Americano Professional Draft Monday morning in Mexico City, grabbing defensive back Sergio Shiaffino Perez of the Saltillo Dinos of the LFA eighth overall, followed by two players in the university ranks: safety Eduardo Manuel Hernandez Reyes of the Univerisidad de las Americas Puebla and kicker Gabriel Amavizca Ortiz of the Benemerita Universidad Autonoma de Puebla.

All three players will likely attend rookie camp in the spring, although details of their designation - whether they'd count as nationals, internationals, or fall under some other category - won't be determined until a new collective bargaining agreement is ratified. How they might compete against CFL veterans, former NFLers and college talent from the NCAA or USports is of some debate right now, but won't be truly determined until the prospects get on Canadian fields.

"We've gone to the (CFL) regional combines and there is some talent here that is comparable to regional combines," Bombers GM Kyle Walters told Dave Taylor of TSN on the weekend. "I don't think it's far-fetched to say that - I don't know if they could make a roster - but some of these kids can fit in at a training camp. And after a training camp, whether you make the team or not depends on injuries and a lot of things. Certainly, based on what I saw today there are some kids that could come to CFL training camps and compete."

Sunday's combine featured 51 players, with each of the CFL teams selecting three prospects in Monday's draft. Both Walters and Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea attended last Sunday's combine, all part of CFL commissioner Randy Ambrosie's CFL 2.0 blueprint for growing the game beyond our borders. There have already been discussions about staging another combine in Europe to mine the talent there.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/14/bombers-select-three-players-inaugural-cfl-lfa-draft/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/14/bombers-select-three-players-inaugural-cfl-lfa-draft/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 15, 2019, 12:37:42 PM
Darren Cameron   @Darren_Cameron
#Bombers have re-signed the CFL's Most Outstanding Defensive Player Adam Bighill to a three-year extension. #FortheW

Winnipeg Blue Bombers re-sign CFL's Most Outstanding Defensive Player Adam Bighill

Five time CFL All-Star linebacker remains in Blue and Gold through 2021

WINNIPEG, MB., January 15, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed linebacker Adam Bighill to a three-year contract extension. Bighill was to become a free agent next month.

Coming off a spectacular season, Bighill claimed the league's Most Outstanding Defensive Player recognition for the second time in his career (2015). In 2018, Bighill was dominant; he recorded 105 tackles while adding four sacks, four tackles for loss, a fumble recovery, two interceptions (one returned for a touchdown), and a league-leading four forced fumbles. His 127 defensive plays were the third-most in the league last season.

"It was pretty well documented that going into this offseason, re-signing Adam was a very big priority for us," said Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters. "We were able to get discussions going and once we did, things moved well and I think both sides are comfortable with the agreement and excited about the future. Adam is a heck of a football player, a great leader, and we?re thrilled to keep him in Winnipeg."

Prior to joining Winnipeg at the onset of training camp last season, Bighill had spent the previous season in the NFL with the New Orleans Saints. He played six seasons with the BC Lions (2011-2016) prior to joining New Orleans following the 2016 season. Bighill is a five-time CFL All-Star and six-time Western Division All-Star.

Over his six CFL seasons, the linebacker has recorded a total of 614 defensive tackles, 37 sacks, ten interceptions, two defensive touchdowns and 12 forced fumbles. He has recorded four 100-plus tackle seasons (including 105 last season), and has never missed the playoffs as a member of a CFL club. Bighill has played 117 regular season games, starting in 103.

Adam will also be joining Wellington-Altus Private Wealth in the off-season as an Investment Advisor. "In the past we have had great success in supporting local curler Jennifer Jones by providing a flexible work schedule as she continued to pursue her curling career," said Charlie Spiring, Chairman and Founder of Wellington-Altus. "We look forward to having Adam join our team as an Investment Advisor as he continues to put his focus on winning a Grey Cup with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers."

Bighill, along with his family, will be making Winnipeg their home while also being heavily involved in the community, including being one of the organization's lead ambassadors for the Tackle Bullying program.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/15/bombers-re-sign-cfls-outstanding-defensive-player-adam-bighill/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/15/bombers-re-sign-cfls-outstanding-defensive-player-adam-bighill/)

Bombers make Adam Bighill the highest paid defensive player in the CFL
By Justin Dunk  January 15, 2019

Adam Bighill's new contract with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers makes him the highest paid defensive player in the CFL, per sources.

Bighill's three-year contract extension will pay him a signing bonus of $105,000 included in $230,000 of hard money in the first season. There is a massive $750,000-plus in hard money over the length of the agreement.

The signing bonus cannot be paid until a new CBA is ratified under a decree set forth by the CFL.

Winnipeg signed Bighill to a one-year, $175,000 deal prior to the 2018 season. He anchored the Bombers in the middle while extinguishing any debate surrounding defensive coordinator Richie Hall. Under Bighill's leadership, the Bombers allowed 375 offensive points, the second least in the league behind the Calgary's 321, while forcing 49 takeaways, tied for the most in the CFL.

The 30-year-old made 105 tackles, forced four fumbles, recorded four sacks and snagged two interceptions, one returned for a touchdown during the 2018 season, earning Bighill the CFL Most Outstanding Defensive Player Award.
 
Bighill should be well worth the investment for Winnipeg.
https://3downnation.com/2019/01/15/bombers-make-adam-bighill-the-highest-paid-defensive-player-in-the-cfl/ (https://3downnation.com/2019/01/15/bombers-make-adam-bighill-the-highest-paid-defensive-player-in-the-cfl/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2019, 05:51:35 PM
I am not surprised. Adam loved it here. This adds a lot of credibility to the organization. Resigning a player like Adam is big in the eye's of other CFL free agents.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 16, 2019, 10:39:46 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
Kyle Walters says the #Bombers have agreed to terms with National O-lineman Michael Couture @MCouture59. Couture still needs to put pen to paper, but now he will (assumedly) not hit free agency February 12.

Critical signing, as he enters his fourth CFL season in Winnipeg.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on January 16, 2019, 10:58:52 PM
Hardly a critical signing unless we lose at least one of our NI starting OL. Couture is in tough against Gray IMO.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 17, 2019, 03:33:35 AM
Hardly a critical signing unless we lose at least one of our NI starting OL. Couture is in tough against Gray IMO.

You can never have enough Nat OL... Couture can be an effective 6th man / jumbo team guy...  Gray will be a starter at OG.  They aren't competing for anything.  And if we get an injury at OT, and we need ratio help,  Gray slides out.

Hardly a pivotal move, but hardly inconsequential.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue72 on January 17, 2019, 01:27:26 PM
If Dereck Jones is not healthy enough to come back as a FA is there any thought of a player like Courtney Stephen replacing him. Stephen is a FA, Nat from Hammy that plays DB, Safety and ST. At 22  and 6'1 199 has good size and was a 2nd round DP for Hammy. If brought along properly could be a Nat we could use in our back field.
Does anyone know anything about him or his play?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 17, 2019, 02:09:39 PM
If Dereck Jones is not healthy enough to come back as a FA is there any thought of a player like Courtney Stephen replacing him. Stephen is a FA, Nat from Hammy that plays DB, Safety and ST. At 22  and 6'1 199 has good size and was a 2nd round DP for Hammy. If brought along properly could be a Nat we could use in our back field.
Does anyone know anything about him or his play?

Jones isn't a free agent but he missed most of 2018 with an injury and I don't know what it was or what his prognosis might be.

Stephen is older than 22. He's 30? this year In any case he'd be a decent pick up but what his SMS might be is the question.

I'm not expecting Hecht or Morgan back so we'll need another player even if we re-sign Loffler. Potentially only Conteh in the wings. Might be a draft choice we're looking at for positional depth?

I'd be looking more at Adeleke as a possible addition in free agency. Younger and seems to have some good upside. Might also be more willing to change teams although he's from back east.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on January 17, 2019, 02:35:51 PM
Stephan was a former starter at one point, and can still step in and start, and has tenure as a National..so SMS wise not much of a value.

Jones I believe was an ACL injury....but was repaired early in the year so no reason he won't be ready for TC...So as it stands we have Jones, Conteh and the 2018 pick Frilotte or however it is spelled back to compete for the safety position, so we are not in desperate to "have" to sign anyone or else territory at the moment, but a proven starter would be nice, though I truly think that we would be just fine with Jones or Conteh there playing a traditional safety role..Conteh I think is going to be a good one and he is in his 3rd year now...so he knows whats going on and is a hitter



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 17, 2019, 06:13:52 PM
Blue Bombers Re-sign CFL's Most Outstanding Lineman Stanley Bryant to One-Year Contract Extension

WINNIPEG, MB., January 17, 2019  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed the league's back-to-back Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman, Stanley Bryant, to a one-year contract extension.

Bryant earned his fourth league All-Star award in 2018 and was awarded the league's Most Outstanding Lineman honour for the second consecutive season. He anchored the left side of an offensive line that was part of the CFL's top rushing unit once again, and a group that played together almost the entire season. Bryant will enter his fifth season in Winnipeg in 2019, and has started every game at left tackle since signing in February of 2015, boosting his consecutive games played streak to 83.

The nine-year CFL veteran spent his first five seasons in Calgary, winning a Grey Cup in 2014, and has been named a CFL All-Star in 2013, 2014, 2017 and 2018. Bryant has started 138 CFL games, eight playoff games, and two Grey Cup games.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/17/bombers-sign-outstanding-lineman-stanley-bryant-one-year-contract-extension/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/17/bombers-sign-outstanding-lineman-stanley-bryant-one-year-contract-extension/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on January 17, 2019, 06:38:29 PM
An excellent signing. It's been a good week for the Bombers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 17, 2019, 07:16:13 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO DBS TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., January 16, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international defensive backs Amari Coleman and Tyneil Cooper.

Coleman (5'11, 188, Central Michigan, October 9, 1996 in Flint, MI) played three seasons with the Central Michigan Chippewas, totalling 142 tackles, eight interceptions, two forced fumbles and 38 pass deflections in 47 games. In 2016, Coleman shared the award for CMU's Defensive Player of the Year. In 2018, Coleman signed with the Detroit Lions as an undrafted free agent.

Cooper (5'9, 180, Dixie State University, January 24, 1995 in Providence, RI) returns to the Blue Bombers after spending the 2018 season with the club. He made 13 total tackles in five games last season.  Cooper played his junior year at Dixie State University, starting in nine games. Cooper earned All-RMAC first-team defense honors with 33 tackles and nine pass breakups with Dixie State in 2016.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/17/bombers-add-two-dbs-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/17/bombers-add-two-dbs-roster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on January 17, 2019, 07:26:18 PM
I like Cooper  coming back.

Amari Coleman is a baller


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on January 17, 2019, 07:51:08 PM
Coleman looks pretty bomb.

Then again, everyone's college stats do. So hard to tell until camp.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Curling4Me on January 17, 2019, 07:51:12 PM
Blue Bombers Re-sign CFL's Most Outstanding Lineman Stanley Bryant to One-Year Contract Extension

WINNIPEG, MB., January 17, 2019  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed the league's back-to-back Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman, Stanley Bryant, to a one-year contract extension.

Bryant earned his fourth league All-Star award in 2018 and was awarded the league's Most Outstanding Lineman honour for the second consecutive season. He anchored the left side of an offensive line that was part of the CFL's top rushing unit once again, and a group that played together almost the entire season. Bryant will enter his fifth season in Winnipeg in 2019, and has started every game at left tackle since signing in February of 2015, boosting his consecutive games played streak to 83.

The nine-year CFL veteran spent his first five seasons in Calgary, winning a Grey Cup in 2014, and has been named a CFL All-Star in 2013, 2014, 2017 and 2018. Bryant has started 138 CFL games, eight playoff games, and two Grey Cup games.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/17/bombers-sign-outstanding-lineman-stanley-bryant-one-year-contract-extension/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/17/bombers-sign-outstanding-lineman-stanley-bryant-one-year-contract-extension/)
Wasn?t this announced in December? I seem to recall hearing both Hardrick and Bryant re signed


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 17, 2019, 08:00:13 PM
I don't see the point in bringing Cooper back, we had a look at him already and I judge him too short to go up against 6'-4" receivers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on January 17, 2019, 08:13:27 PM
I don't see the point in bringing Cooper back, we had a look at him already and I judge him too short to go up against 6'-4" receivers.

Hilarious

Crazy that they didn't ask you first


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 17, 2019, 08:27:55 PM
I don't see the point in bringing Cooper back, we had a look at him already and I judge him too short to go up against 6'-4" receivers.
Meh. Doesn't hurt to bring him back. We spent a year developing him, may as well see if it was worth it


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on January 17, 2019, 08:50:20 PM
I don't see the point in bringing Cooper back, we had a look at him already and I judge him too short to go up against 6'-4" receivers.
Well obviously the Bombers saw something. I've always said that there's no such thing as too much competition.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 17, 2019, 09:50:06 PM
I don't see the point in bringing Cooper back, we had a look at him already and I judge him too short to go up against 6'-4" receivers.

Tell Alex Suber that... ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 17, 2019, 10:39:27 PM
Hilarious

Crazy that they didn't ask you first

I know and I work cheap!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 18, 2019, 01:27:44 AM

Ted Wyman
@Ted_Wyman
 Quick change to a bit of #CFL news ... #Bombers have released linebacker Ian Wild. Played six seasons in Winnipeg


Not totally unexpected but sad to see Ian go, he was the consummate professional.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on January 18, 2019, 01:35:44 AM
Ted Wyman
@Ted_Wyman
 Quick change to a bit of #CFL news ... #Bombers have released linebacker Ian Wild. Played six seasons in Winnipeg


Not totally unexpected but sad to see Ian go, he was the consummate professional.

Unfortunately another one where age caught up to. The cruelty of professional sports.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on January 18, 2019, 02:24:28 AM
Unfortunately another one where age caught up to. The cruelty of professional sports.

I don?t think ?ge had anything to do with it. Is he even 30 yet?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on January 18, 2019, 02:57:08 AM
Ian couldn't stay healthy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on January 18, 2019, 03:11:19 AM
I don?t think ?ge had anything to do with it. Is he even 30 yet?

Six year career is twice the CFL average, so he had a decent run.  He?s only 28, but he came right to WBB at 22 instead of kicking around NFL camps for a couple of years, so he has some mileage.

Wild played some really good ball for us, it was a pleasure to watch him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on January 18, 2019, 03:26:30 AM
Six year career is twice the CFL average, so he had a decent run.  He?s only 28, but he came right to WBB at 22 instead of kicking around NFL camps for a couple of years, so he has some mileage.

Wild played some really good ball for us, it was a pleasure to watch him.
He's been here so long that I thought he was older. :D But it did seem like he had slowed down.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 18, 2019, 12:10:34 PM
A couple of signings that haven't been announced by the Bombers:

2019-01-17   WPG   JONES, Jarnor DB   I   Iowa State   Add To   Active Roster
2019-01-17   WPG   BRIGGS, Chauncey   OL   I   Southern Methodist   Add To   Active Roster

Briggs was a late training camp cut for Edmonton last year.

Blue Bombers Add Two to Roster - January 18, 2019

WINNIPEG, MB., January 17, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international linebacker Jarnor Jones and International offensive lineman Chauncey Briggs.

Jones (6'3, 209, Iowa State, April 29, 1994 in Lithonia, GA) played two seasons with the Iowa State Cyclones, totalling 78 tackles, three sacks, and one interception in 24 games. In 2016, Jones shared the award for CMU's Defensive Player of the Year. In 2017, Jones signed with the Atlanta Falcons as an undrafted free agent before joining the San Francisco 49ers practice squad.

Briggs (6'6, 300, Southern Methodist University, July 8, 1994 in West Bloomfield, MI) played three seasons with the SMU Mustangs, starting in 31 games. In 2017, Briggs signed with the Oakland Raiders as an undrafted free agent. Briggs also spent time with the Edmonton Eskimos in 2018.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/bombers-add-two-roster-7/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/bombers-add-two-roster-7/)

Winnipeg Blue Bombers release linebacker Ian Wild

WINNIPEG, MB., January 18, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has released international linebacker Ian Wild.

Statement from Winnipeg Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters:

"This has been another difficult decision, as Ian has been an integral part of our organization for many years, dating back to 2013. Through all those seasons, Ian was very productive for us and carried himself professionally, leading by his actions through both the good and the bad. We truly appreciate all he has given the organization."

Wild has spent the past six seasons with Winnipeg, playing in 67 career games and recording 245 defensive tackles, 60 special teams tackles, eight sacks, one interception and eight forced fumbles. Wild originally joined the team as a free agent prior to the 2013 regular season.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/bombers-release-linebacker-ian-wild/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/bombers-release-linebacker-ian-wild/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 21, 2019, 03:21:12 PM
STABILITY IN A SEA OF TURMOIL - A LOOK AT WESTERN FREE AGENTS
Jan 18 2019 - Ed Tait

WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS

2018: 10-8, third in West Division; defeated Saskatchewan in West Semi-Final, lost to Calgary in West Final.

Coaching/Personnel:
- No changes, although offensive coordinator Paul LaPolice is rumoured to be on Saskatchewan's head-coach candidates list.

NFL Exits:
- None. Both DE Jackson Jeffcoat and LB Jovan Santos-Knox have had interest

Pending free agents: 22

Key FAs:
DBs: Brandon Alexander, Taylor Loffler, Kevin Fogg
LB: Jovan Santo-Knox
DL: Jackson Jeffcoat, Drake Nevis, Tristan Okpalaugo
OL: Matthias Goossen, Sukh Chungh
Recs: Weston Dressler, Nic Demski

QB depth chart:
1. Matt Nichols
2. Chris Streveler
3 Bryan Bennett
(all under contract)

To be determined: The Bombers aren't without their concerns, especially with seven starters from last year's defence all heading to free agency - including all-star safety Taylor Loffler - as well as Canadian starters like Goossen, Chungh and Demski on offence.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/stability-sea-turmoil-look-western-free-agents/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/stability-sea-turmoil-look-western-free-agents/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 21, 2019, 03:21:22 PM
BOMBERS RE-SIGN DEFENSIVE END JACKSON JEFFCOAT ON TWO-YEAR EXTENSION

WINNIPEG, MB., January 21, 2019  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed defensive end Jackson Jeffcoat on a two-year contract extension. Jeffcoat was to become a free agent next month.

Jeffcoat has spent the past two seasons in Winnipeg after signing as a free agent prior to the 2017 season. In 2018, the Texas product recorded five sacks, two forced fumbles and 21 defensive tackles in just 12 games, missing the other eight due to injury. Jeffcoat also recorded two sacks in each of the club's postseason games in 2018.

"Jackson has continued to develop into a very strong pass rusher for us," said General Manager, Kyle Walters. "He was able to come back strong after missing some time due to injury last season, and really played well in the postseason for us as well. He's a big part of our defence up front and we are thrilled to have him back."

In 2017, Jeffcoat's first season in the CFL, he finished tied for the team lead in sacks with seven, while also recording one interception, one forced fumble and 36 defensive tackles.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/21/bombers-re-sign-defensive-end-jackson-jeffcoat-two-year-extension/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/21/bombers-re-sign-defensive-end-jackson-jeffcoat-two-year-extension/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on January 21, 2019, 07:21:55 PM

Darren Cameron
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#Bombers have re-signed DE Jackson Jeffcoat to two-year extension. Jeffcoat was to be a free agent next month. Over two seasons in Winnipeg (28 games), he?s recorded 12 sacks, 57 defensive tackles, one INT & three forced fumbles. Recorded four sacks in two playoff games in 2018.
4 replies 12 retweets 159 likes

Jim Davison
‏ @JimDavison14
Replying to @Darren_Cameron

Darren any word on Santos Knox yet we need him back here too.


Darren Cameron
‏Verified account @Darren_Cameron
2h2 hours ago

Darren Cameron Retweeted Jim Davison
Working on it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on January 21, 2019, 07:44:29 PM
Come home, JSK!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on January 21, 2019, 08:37:53 PM
Come home, JSK!
Yes please.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 21, 2019, 08:50:43 PM
JSK is still recovering from injury, and hasn't been able to work out for any NFL clubs.  Jeffcoat did.  I can't see JSK signing here until he's had a chance to work out down south...  as long as he doesn't sign elsewhere in the CFL once FA comes, I'm willing to wait...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 21, 2019, 09:12:55 PM
JSK is still recovering from injury, and hasn't been able to work out for any NFL clubs.  Jeffcoat did.  I can't see JSK signing here until he's had a chance to work out down south...  as long as he doesn't sign elsewhere in the CFL once FA comes, I'm willing to wait...

if JSK doesn't get an NFL shot this year I have no concerns of him signing anywhere other than Winnipeg... I'm sure that he sees what playing beside someone such as Bighill does to his value... he'll want to come back and continue to build on that until he gets a shot down south...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 22, 2019, 01:08:23 AM
Transactions Jan 21th:

2019-01-21   WPG   COUTURE, Michael   OL   N   Simon Fraser   Add To   Active Roster

2019-01-21   WPG   TACHINSKI, Xander   WR   N   Winnipeg Rifles Jr.   Remove Unsigned   Free Agent
2019-01-21   WPG   RITCHOTT, Michael   RB   N      Remove Unsigned   Free Agent

Couture's signing is finally official. My guess is the Bombers will announce it tomorrow.

Also, the Bombers no longer have the rights to Tachinski and Ritchott.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2019, 03:32:39 AM
I think it was said earlier, these are players that probably have resigned but the bombers are spreading out the announcements.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 22, 2019, 06:53:51 PM
We've extended 11 of 43 players on the CFL potential free agent lists. Not much activity for other teams so far. Are they asleep?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 22, 2019, 07:12:50 PM
We've extended 11 of 43 players on the CFL potential free agent lists. Not much activity for other teams so far. Are they asleep?

11 of 43, with a bunch not coming back for other reasons...  Kyle has been busy.  He is obviously doing something in the contracts to make them comfortable with the "no CBA" issue.  Probably a bonus based on % of the cap to top up contracts.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 23, 2019, 07:45:13 AM
Blue Bombers Re-sign National Offensive Lineman Michael Couture

WINNIPEG, MB., January 22, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national offensive lineman Michael Couture to a one-year extension. Couture was to become a free agent next month.

Originally selected 10th overall by Winnipeg in the 2016 CFL Draft, Couture has played in all 54 regular season games and four playoff games since arriving in Winnipeg. A versatile lineman, Couture has played across the offensive line in his first three seasons. He made his first two career professional starts in 2018.

"Michael came in and was immediately inserted into the game day roster," said General Manager, Kyle Walters. "To do that right out of college is not an easy feat, and he has continued to progress in so many facets of his game over his first three seasons with us. Certainly drafting and developing offensive linemen is very important for us, and we're excited to bring Michael back for 2019."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/22/bombers-re-sign-national-offensive-lineman-michael-couture/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/22/bombers-re-sign-national-offensive-lineman-michael-couture/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 23, 2019, 04:28:00 PM
LaPo finally tweets but it isn't to clarify his own situation but to congratulate Couture.


Paul LaPolice

Verified account
 
@PaulLaPolice
 4h4 hours ago

More Paul LaPolice Retweeted WPG Blue Bombers
Excited to have Mike back in the fold.  Has done a lot for us the past three seasons.  He also has the most catches out of our offensive line group! #TEPaul LaPolice added,

WPG Blue Bombers
Verified account
 
@Wpg_BlueBombers
"It was just a known environment for me and everything I?ve experienced in my three years has been amazing... being part of such a great group has been good for?
8 replies 7 retweets 121 likes
Reply 8   Retweet 7   Like 121


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 23, 2019, 10:43:17 PM
Blue Bombers Extend the Contract of Defensive Back Anthony Gaitor

WINNIPEG, MB., January 23, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has extended the contract of International defensive back Anthony Gaitor through the 2020 season. Gaitor was entering the final year of his agreement in the 2019 season.

Gaitor spent the 2018 season with Winnipeg after signing as a free agent from the BC Lions. He recorded two interceptions, two defensive touchdowns, two sacks and 27 defensive tackles in ten games. Gaitor has played three CFL seasons (the first two in BC), and recorded 100 defensive tackles, two sacks, five interceptions, four defensive touchdowns and two forced fumbles in 33 games.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/23/bombers-extend-contract-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/23/bombers-extend-contract-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on January 24, 2019, 12:49:52 AM
LaPo finally tweets but it isn't to clarify his own situation but to congratulate Couture.


Paul LaPolice

Verified account
 
@PaulLaPolice
 4h4 hours ago

More Paul LaPolice Retweeted WPG Blue Bombers
Excited to have Mike back in the fold.  Has done a lot for us the past three seasons.  He also has the most catches out of our offensive line group! #TEPaul LaPolice added,

WPG Blue Bombers
Verified account
 
@Wpg_BlueBombers
"It was just a known environment for me and everything I?ve experienced in my three years has been amazing... being part of such a great group has been good for?
8 replies 7 retweets 121 likes
Reply 8   Retweet 7   Like 121

LaPo won't be saying anything.

It is a no win situation.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on January 24, 2019, 02:03:07 AM
happy to have Gaitor back!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 25, 2019, 04:52:13 PM
BOMBERS RE-SIGN SHAYNE GAUTHIER

WINNIPEG, MB., January 25, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national linebacker Shayne Gauthier to a two-year deal. Gauthier was a pending free agent next month.

Gauthier has spent the past three seasons with Winnipeg after being selected in the fourth round, 28th overall by Winnipeg in the 2016 CFL Draft. He has appeared in 31 games, making 28 special teams tackles and recording one forced fumble.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/bombers-re-sign-shayne-gauthier/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/bombers-re-sign-shayne-gauthier/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on January 25, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
Another good signing by Mr. Walters. Keep them coming.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 25, 2019, 04:57:56 PM
BOMBERS RE-SIGN SHAYNE GAUTHIER

WINNIPEG, MB., January 25, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national linebacker Shayne Gauthier to a two-year deal. Gauthier was a pending free agent next month.

Gauthier has spent the past three seasons with Winnipeg after being selected in the fourth round, 28th overall by Winnipeg in the 2016 CFL Draft. He has appeared in 31 games, making 28 special teams tackles and recording one forced fumble.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/bombers-re-sign-shayne-gauthier/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/bombers-re-sign-shayne-gauthier/)

Good move. He's been a pretty good ST player and back up LB. I expected him to be re-signed but expect Renaud and Plesius to not return to the Bombers in 2019.

I think that's the 3rd potential free agent re-signed this week.

One interesting fact is that players are signing multiple year deals or extensions that keep them in Winnipeg for at least the 2020 season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 25, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
IN response to the announcemnet, Biggie's tweet...


Adam Bighill @Bighill44
Adam Bighill Retweeted WPG Blue Bombers

#CertifiedSavage


So I guess he respects the Bombers #44... 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 25, 2019, 08:42:09 PM
happy to have Gaitor back!

He'll take a BITE out of those opposition offenses. He played well last year. Whether he's playing at SAM, CB or HB is not certain but he can be a player on defense.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 26, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
LEFT ON THE LIST - 19 PENDING FREE AGENTS
Jan 25 - Ed Tait

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers' list of January transactions is long and it is meaty.

Important names like Adam Bighill, Jackson Jeffcoat, Stanley Bryant and Justin Medlock have all been re-signed before becoming free agents next month, as have loyal foot soldiers like Michael Couture, Shayne Gauthier, John Rush, Chad Rempel and Jake Thomas, while defensive back Anthony Gaitor had his contract extended this week.

It represents more solid work by Bombers management that dates back to the end of the season and has put the club in a good position, especially as it relates to the rest of the Canadian Football League's West Division, which we touched on in the our first free agent preview series last week.

But with the free agent market opening in 19 days, the list of those still unsigned is both daunting and unnerving to the club's faithful. That group includes Canadian starters like safety Taylor Loffler and centre Matthias Goossen, both CFL All-Stars, guard Sukh Chungh - a West Division All-Star - as well as receiver Nic Demski.

There are five import defensive starters from 2018 still unsigned in linebacker Jovan Santos-Knox, defensive backs Brandon Alexander and Kevin Fogg, and defensive linemen Drake Nevis and Tristan Okpalaug, as well as receivers Weston Dressler and Ryan Lankford. Also still unsigned are Canadians Trent Corney, Jeff Hecht, Kienan LaFrance, Thomas Miles, Brendan Morgan, Frederic Plesius, and Frank Renaud.

All told, that's 19 remaining unsigned free agents, including 10 starters from a year ago - four of them Canadian of which two, Loffler and Goossen, are CFL All-Stars, a third in Chungh is a divisional all-star while Demski finished third on the club in both rushing and receiving yardage.

The challenge for the Bombers now, then, is multi-layered.

First, this is a team that has posted three consecutive double-digit win seasons - and is second only to the Calgary Stampeders in wins over that stretch - which has raved about camaraderie in the locker room and the continuity throughout the organization.

But with Chris Randle, Ian Wild and Maurice Leggett released this winter, the inevitable change that comes with every CFL offseason - especially with an expiring collective-bargaining agreement - the 2019 Bombers will have a lot of new faces in new places from the squad that took to the field against the Stamps in the West Final.

There's also the not-so-tiny salary camp implications to consider. Canadian starters that get to free agency are often at the centre of bidding wars, even in a market that will be flooded with an unprecedented number of players.

And so, as much as the Bombers should be applauded for the work already done, they have some intriguing decisions ahead while they weigh the need to upgrade certain areas while balancing the chemistry/continuity factor. In short, it's virtually impossible to do all that, especially with the terms of the salary cap still undetermined.

So, who stays and who goes under those parameters?

Do the Bombers continue to spend big dollars on an offensive line that was instrumental in Andrew Harris winning consecutive rushing titles and was the backbone of the league's highest-scoring offence by bringing back Goossen and Chungh? Or do they roll the dice, knowing that the O-line cupboard is stocked with ripening Canadian prospects like Couture, Geoff Gray and Cody Speller and holding two first-round picks in the upcoming draft? Do they re-invest in the defence, with Loffler, Alexander, Santos-Knox & Co. all part of a unit that had morphed into a CFL powerhouse by season's end? Or do they hope they can fill any prospective holes on that side of the ball through the open market?

Earlier this week, yours truly served up a very informal Twitter poll, asking fans to weigh in on which of the Bombers pending free agents was the highest priority. The results weren't surprising - especially with Bighill now back on board - but were hardly conclusive.

There were 1,298 respondents, with 27 percent indicating Loffler should be the top priority, followed by Chungh at 26 percent, Goossen at 25 percent and Santos-Knox at 22.

That lack of consensus, we can only guess, likely mirrors the discussions being held behind closed doors on Chancellor Matheson Road.

What happens next - in the days leading up to the opening of the free agent market on Tuesday, February 19th at 11 a.m. - and in the hours after the annual talent grab begins, will be riveting drama.

BACK IN BLUE

Veteran players signed by the Bombers since the conclusion of the 2018 season:

LB Adam Bighill
LB Shayne Gauthier*
LB Jesse Briggs*
K Justin Medlock
DE Jackson Jeffcoat
OL Jermarcus Hardrick
OL Michael Couture*
OL Stanley Bryant
RB Johnny Augustine*
FB John Rush*
FB Mike Miller*
DB Anthony Gaitor
DT Jake Thomas*
LS Chad Rempel*

SOON TO MARKET?


Players scheduled to become free agents on February 12th:

DB Brandon Alexander
DB Kevin Fogg
S Taylor Loffler*
DB Jeff Hecht*
DB Brendan Morgan*
OL Sukh Chungh*
C Matthias Goossen*
DL Drake Nevis
DL Tristan Okpalaugo
DL Trent Corney*
LB Jovan Santos-Knox
LB Kyrie Wilson
LB Thomas Miles*
LB Frederic Plesius
LB Frank Renaud
WR Nic Demski*
WR Weston Dressler
WR Ryan Lankford
RB Kienan LaFrance*

RELEASED

LB Maurice Leggett
LB Ian Wild
CB Chris Randle

*Indicates: Canadian

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/left-list-19-pending-free-agents/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/left-list-19-pending-free-agents/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on January 26, 2019, 01:57:15 PM
I honestly keep forgetting about Brandon Alexander, but he may be my top priority (and probably the real reason Randle was cut, not Bighill).

We have next to nothing in the secondary without him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on January 26, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
IMO: Hecht, Morgan, Plesius, Renaud, Wilson, Lankford & Lafrance won't be offered new contracts. At least not until we see who we gain in free agency.

Dressler, Nevis, Demski and Okpalaugo might be SMS casualties although I'd be happy to see all of them back. OTOH I can see the possibility that we may have other ideas in free agency.

All the rest I believe we want back. Whether we are able to do so is the current situation.

Ideally we sign another 3 players a week each week of the remaining 2 weeks before free agency. Several players around the league will re-sign with their teams within a couple of days of free agency.

I'd rather not go through that nerve wracking process but as long as we get most of these players back we'll look pretty good.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on January 26, 2019, 03:22:11 PM
I applaud Walters for the job he's done so far this off season, but.... 4 of our 7 staring NI's, 3 of whom were all stars of some sort last year remain unsigned. That's where the real work will be. We need to sign 3 of those 4 or find new starting NI's in FA.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on January 28, 2019, 03:00:48 AM

Garrett Johnson

@_TeamG

Excited to announce that I have agreed to terms with the

@Wpg_BlueBombers

thank you for this opportunity! #juice

https://youtu.be/sCRTcv2kk9A

https://theriotreport.com/scout-camp-2018-garrett-johnson



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on January 28, 2019, 03:17:58 AM
Juice looks like he has some tools.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on January 28, 2019, 04:22:43 AM
Good hands, good route runner, 4.39 40.....all good signs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on January 28, 2019, 04:36:14 AM
How is he with the 50/50 ball ;)

Looks like a burner, a field stretcher...  Dressler sized though...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on January 28, 2019, 11:30:36 AM
5'11" is not Dressler sized.

Plus if he can be half as good as Dressler, he will have a solid career.

He is the bigger than Diontae Spencer


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: bigbuff33 on January 28, 2019, 02:45:48 PM
Impressed with Garrett Johnson...
We need some fresh young talented legs...
He may have some Brandon Banks in him


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on January 28, 2019, 02:55:56 PM
5'11" is not Dressler sized.

Plus if he can be half as good as Dressler, he will have a solid career.

He is the bigger than Diontae Spencer

Can't trust his listed height until you see him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on January 28, 2019, 03:55:27 PM
Mizzou played against him in the SEC, good speed but lacks physicality and probably better suited as a return option rather than a break out receiver option... not a bad player, good hands and what not, just probably not going to evolve into what we are looking for... at Kentucky he played a lot like Dressler, a lot of quick hitters and slants to try and take advantage of his speed...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 29, 2019, 08:29:12 PM
MATTHIAS GOOSSEN ANNOUNCES RETIREMENT

WINNIPEG, MB., January 29, 2019 -  Winnipeg Blue Bombers centre Matthias Goossen has informed the team he has decided to retire from professional football.

Statement from Matthias Goossen:

"After much prayer and consideration, I have decided to end my football career. Firstly, I want to thank my family, and especially my wife, for being a constant source of support over the course of my football career. I also want to thank my teammates who made my five years of playing professional football a true blessing, and am especially thankful for the brotherhood of offensive linemen who made it a privilege every day to come into work. I want to thank Coach O'shea and coach Marty Costello for being two of the best coaches I have ever had. The Blue Bombers organization has been great to me over these past 5 years, and I am so grateful to have played for a team that does so much for its players and community. Lastly, I want to thank the people of Winnipeg. I have met so many great people here and can say that this city has felt like home over my 5 seasons wearing the blue and gold."

Statement from Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters:

"First off, we would sincerely like to thank Matthias for his work and dedication to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. From the moment we drafted him in 2014, Matthias has shown tremendous professionalism both on and off the field. His work in the community is something we are very proud of, and he represented the Blue Bombers the right way. As far as our roster is concerned, Matthias was gracious enough to inform us of this decision quite some time ago, so we have been working accordingly. He is a fantastic young man, and we wish him all the best moving forward."

Goossen was originally selected by Winnipeg in the first round, second overall, in the 2014 CFL Draft. He dressed for 87 career regular season games, making 64 starts. He also started all four playoff games during his time with Winnipeg.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/29/matthias-goossen-announces-retirement/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/29/matthias-goossen-announces-retirement/)

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
Matthias Goossen will retire from pro football to pursue a career in police work back in his home province of British Columbia.

There was a reason the #Bombers had a priority in securing Michael Couture last week prior to free agency opening. He's likely the new starting centre.

Ted Wyman   @Ted_Wyman
With retirement of all-star offensive lineman Matthias Goossen, recently-resigned OL Michael Couture likely will become the starting centre next year. #Bombers also have Stanley Bryant, Pat Neufeld, Jermarcus Hardrick and Geoff Gray under contract. All-star Sukh Chungh pending FA

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton
That said, Cody Speller is also an intriguing piece and should be considered a possibility as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 30, 2019, 08:43:02 PM
BOMBERS RE-SIGN NATIONAL LINEBACKER THOMAS MILES

WINNIPEG, MB., January 28, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national linebacker Thomas Miles to a one-year extension. Miles was set to become a free agent next month.
Miles has spent the past two seasons in Winnipeg after signing as a free agent prior to the 2017 season. He has recorded 26 special teams tackle and nine defensive tackles in 36 games over that span. Prior to signing in Winnipeg, Miles spent three seasons with the Toronto Argonauts after being selected 33rd overall in the 2014 CFL Draft.
 
Through his five CFL seasons, Miles has recorded 67 defensive tackles, 42 special teams tackles, two sacks and one forced fumble in 76 career games.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/30/bombers-re-sign-national-linebacker-thomas-miles/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/30/bombers-re-sign-national-linebacker-thomas-miles/)

BOMBERS ADD QUARTERBACK AND RECEIVER

WINNIPEG, MB., January 30, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international quarterback Bryan Schor and international receiver Garrett Johnson.

Schor (6'2, 215, James Madison University, March 24, 1995 in Milford, Pennsylvania) played four seasons for the James Madison Dukes, completing 559 passes for 7,078 yards and 62 touchdowns. During his time at JMU, Schor set career records for passing touchdowns, passing yards, completions and total offense. In 2017, Schor finished the season with 3,222 passing yards and 26 touchdowns in 15 games. 
 
Johnson (5'11, 175, University of Kentucky, December 3, 1995 in Winter Garden, FL.) played four seasons for the Kentucky Wildcats, finishing with 156 receptions for 2,095 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns. Johnson finished fourth in career receiving yards and fifth in receptions in the school's history. In 2018, Johnson signed with the Chicago Bears as an undrafted free agent and spent the entire NFL pre-season with the club.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/30/bombers-add-quarterback-receiver-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/30/bombers-add-quarterback-receiver-2/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on January 30, 2019, 11:24:36 PM
some signings that has not been announced yet

2019-01-30   WPG   THOMPSON, Mykkele   DB   I   Texas                   Add To   Active Roster
2019-01-30   WPG   SIMMONS, Jalen           RB   I   South Carolina State   Add To   Active Roster

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sully77 on January 31, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
Holy crap...Garrett Johnson??? This kid is the deal! Been following him at his time in Kentucky. Hope he gets a legit shot at a spot.
https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/1/28/18199728/uk-football-garrett-johnson-winnipeg-blue-bombers-cfl


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on January 31, 2019, 12:11:12 AM
some signings that has not been announced yet

2019-01-30   WPG   THOMPSON, Mykkele   DB   I   Texas                   Add To   Active Roster
2019-01-30   WPG   SIMMONS, Jalen           RB   I   South Carolina State   Add To   Active Roster

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/
Simmons is listed as 5'7 213. That seems to be a bit thick, be interesting to see what he looks like in the CFL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on January 31, 2019, 12:52:24 AM
Simmons highlight vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpKqFRrRKL0


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on January 31, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
some signings that has not been announced yet

2019-01-30   WPG   THOMPSON, Mykkele   DB   I   Texas                   Add To   Active Roster
2019-01-30   WPG   SIMMONS, Jalen           RB   I   South Carolina State   Add To   Active Roster

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/
Simmons intrigues me because with his size, he could be a great STer (tackling and blocking not returning). With Flanders gone, a PR running back is a good idea.

Thompson looks good, seems like one of those guys that never caught a break from injuries.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on January 31, 2019, 11:19:57 PM
2019-01-31   WPG   HECHT, Jeff   DB   N   Saint Mary's   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on February 01, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
2019-01-31   WPG   HECHT, Jeff   DB   N   Saint Mary's   Add To   Active Roster

I like this. Good veteran backup and STer. Too washed up to be a starter but can fill in in a pinch.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on February 01, 2019, 07:12:42 PM
I like this. Good veteran backup and STer. Too washed up to be a starter but can fill in in a pinch.

I don?t mind this at all.

With Jones as the starter (the BB have been developing him @ Safety), and Conteh & Firlotte around to develop into a safety, Hecht?s experience and leadership will be valuable.

It looks like the BB will be using those SMS $ on another position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 01, 2019, 11:44:37 PM
Looks like Fenner got an extension
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster

..and we signed a new DE
2019-02-01   WPG   NWACHUKWU, Noble   DE   I   West Virginia   Add To   Active Roster

he will be a DT in CFL

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/noble-nwachukwu?id=2557990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Iu50ilItE


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 02, 2019, 04:33:59 AM
Looks like Fenner got an extension
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster

..and we signed a new DE
2019-02-01   WPG   NWACHUKWU, Noble   DE   I   West Virginia   Add To   Active Roster

he will be a DT in CFL

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/noble-nwachukwu?id=2557990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Iu50ilItE

Maybe Fenner renegotiated? Can't see him getting more money.

As for Nwachukwu, looks intriguing. Between him and Thompson, already excited for TC


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 02, 2019, 12:55:37 PM
Simmons and Thompson signings made official:

Blue Bombers Add Two to Roster

WINNIPEG, MB., February 1, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international running back Jalen Simmons and international defensive back Mykkele Thompson.

Simmons
(5'8, 205, South Carolina State, April 1, 1992 in Charlotte, NC.) played 44 games for the South Carolina State Bulldogs, rushing for 2,618 yards and 17 touchdowns on 554 carries. In 2016, Simmons signed with the Carolina Panthers as an undrafted free agent. He also spent time with the San Diego Chargers, New York Giants and Arizona Cardinals.

Thompson (6'1, 195, University of Texas, April 22, 1993 in Naples, Italy) played four seasons for the Texas Longhorns, finishing with 213 total tackles, two interceptions and two forced fumbles in 52 games. Thompson was drafted in the fifth round of the 2015 NFL Draft by the New York Giants and also spent time with the New Orleans Saints.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/01/bombers-add-running-back-defensive-back/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/01/bombers-add-running-back-defensive-back/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 02, 2019, 07:25:17 PM
Maybe Fenner renegotiated? Can't see him getting more money.

As for Nwachukwu, looks intriguing. Between him and Thompson, already excited for TC

That's my only thought. He certainly didn't live up to my expectations.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 03, 2019, 03:14:30 AM
curious as to the thinking behind signing import running backs... ratio being what it is, I'm not sure how they see the field... i.e. Flanders...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 03, 2019, 03:19:34 AM
curious as to the thinking behind signing import running backs... ratio being what it is, I'm not sure how they see the field... i.e. Flanders...

They will continue to carry an import RB either as a healthy scratch or on the practice roster.  They need to have someone ready to go if Harris goes down for several games.  Neither LaFrance nor Augustine could carry the load full time.

Not sure if Flanders is looking to move in order to get playing time, or if a new RB will have to beat him out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 03, 2019, 04:24:11 AM
They will continue to carry an import RB either as a healthy scratch or on the practice roster.  They need to have someone ready to go if Harris goes down for several games.  Neither LaFrance nor Augustine could carry the load full time.

Not sure if Flanders is looking to move in order to get playing time, or if a new RB will have to beat him out.

losing Loffler could complicate this issue even further as Harris would have to be replaced with another ratio player somewhere else in the line up to be able to insert an import at running back... start 3 national receivers?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on February 03, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
Hecht jumps in at safety, and would be  best in the West. He knows how and where to play


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 03, 2019, 11:14:05 AM
losing Loffler could complicate this issue even further as Harris would have to be replaced with another ratio player somewhere else in the line up to be able to insert an import at running back... start 3 national receivers?

If we had to play an import RB, then 3 national receivers is the most likely fix.

Losing Loffler is a separate adjustment, we would probably sign a national DT if we couldn?t find a viable safety in free agency.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 03, 2019, 02:24:20 PM
Hecht jumps in at safety, and would be  best in the West. He knows how and where to play
That's funny.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 03, 2019, 02:42:03 PM
Hecht is an older career special team'r who is an in-game replacement at safety. He's not a guy who should be counted on to play regularly.

We didn't have a spot last year for Flanders. We won't have one this year either. I don't expect him to make the team.

I'd take Augustine over LaFrance and I don't think we need both. Drop LaFrance and use his money for one of this years draft picks.

If Harris goes down for any length of time, we're basically screwed. First, he'd be replaced with an import. Second, we'd have to find another starting NI which likely means 3 receivers, which in turn means watering down our receiving corps even more than it already is. Third, we'd have to change the offense significantly, as Harris is the guy the whole thing is based on. Lets all hope it never happens.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 03, 2019, 03:45:25 PM
Hecht is an older career special team'r who is an in-game replacement at safety. He's not a guy who should be counted on to play regularly.

We didn't have a spot last year for Flanders. We won't have one this year either. I don't expect him to make the team.

I'd take Augustine over LaFrance and I don't think we need both. Drop LaFrance and use his money for one of this years draft picks.

If Harris goes down for any length of time, we're basically screwed. First, he'd be replaced with an import. Second, we'd have to find another starting NI which likely means 3 receivers, which in turn means watering down our receiving corps even more than it already is. Third, we'd have to change the offense significantly, as Harris is the guy the whole thing is based on. Lets all hope it never happens.

If Nichols goes down, if Bighill goes down...

Why would it be an INT coming in for Harris?  Assuming we re-sign Demski and have Augustine... isn't that what they are for?  WE are not rostering Augustine for ST play...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 03, 2019, 03:51:23 PM
Hecht is an older career special team'r who is an in-game replacement at safety. He's not a guy who should be counted on to play regularly.

We didn't have a spot last year for Flanders. We won't have one this year either. I don't expect him to make the team.

I'd take Augustine over LaFrance and I don't think we need both. Drop LaFrance and use his money for one of this years draft picks.

If Harris goes down for any length of time, we're basically screwed. First, he'd be replaced with an import. Second, we'd have to find another starting NI which likely means 3 receivers, which in turn means watering down our receiving corps even more than it already is. Third, we'd have to change the offense significantly, as Harris is the guy the whole thing is based on. Lets all hope it never happens.

I disagree with this part of your statement, if Harris goes down they will insert Augustine as a direct replacement and not have to adjust the ratio in any other position.  That's the reason they're carrying him as a backup and continuing to develop him.  Of course it's not likely he will be as versatile as the best R.B. in the league but that's where the compromise bit comes in, not by inserting an Import and adjusting the ratio elsewhere which would compromise a different position.  To restate, "if Harris goes down a compromise will have to be made", pick your poison.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 03, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
If Nichols goes down, if Bighill goes down...

Why would it be an INT coming in for Harris?  Assuming we re-sign Demski and have Augustine... isn't that what they are for?  WE are not rostering Augustine for ST play...
If Nichols goes down, Streveler will do. IMO, he'd actually be a better choice. If Bighill goes down, we replace him with another import so we don't have to change the ratio.

Demski isn't a really a running back. He can take a few hand offs on jet sweeps, but he's not the guy to get the tough yards between the tackles. Augustine is the in game replacement, not a long term replacement. Our offense is based on the RB, so we need a good to great one.

I disagree with this part of your statement, if Harris goes down they will insert Augustine as a direct replacement and not have to adjust the ratio in any other position.  That's the reason they're carrying him as a backup and continuing to develop him.  Of course it's not likely he will be as versatile as the best R.B. in the league but that's where the compromise bit comes in, not by inserting an Import and adjusting the ratio elsewhere which would compromise a different position.  To restate, "if Harris goes down a compromise will have to be made", pick your poison.
In game, we insert Augustine. That's why we roster him or LaFrance. Neither are feature backs. If it wasn't for the ratio, we'd have Flanders as the backup RB. The main reason we keep Flanders around is in case Harris goes down for several games, we still have a viable feature back.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 03, 2019, 04:30:56 PM
If Nichols goes down, Streveler will do. IMO, he'd actually be a better choice. If Bighill goes down, we replace him with another import so we don't have to change the ratio.

Demski isn't a really a running back. He can take a few hand offs on jet sweeps, but he's not the guy to get the tough yards between the tackles. Augustine is the in game replacement, not a long term replacement. Our offense is based on the RB, so we need a good to great one.
In game, we insert Augustine. That's why we roster him or LaFrance. Neither are feature backs. If it wasn't for the ratio, we'd have Flanders as the backup RB. The main reason we keep Flanders around is in case Harris goes down for several games, we still have a viable feature back.

I think it's too early to determine what Augustine brings, we'll see if they carry a backup Import RB this year, or not.  As for Simmons he looks like T.C. fodder to me.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 03, 2019, 06:08:04 PM
I disagree with this part of your statement, if Harris goes down they will insert Augustine as a direct replacement and not have to adjust the ratio in any other position.  That's the reason they're carrying him as a backup and continuing to develop him.  Of course it's not likely he will be as versatile as the best R.B. in the league but that's where the compromise bit comes in, not by inserting an Import and adjusting the ratio elsewhere which would compromise a different position.  To restate, "if Harris goes down a compromise will have to be made", pick your poison.

which goes back to what I was saying earlier, why are we signing more import running backs? after all, we still have Flanders on the roster and he's not being used, if indeed we will insert Augustine, it seems like a waste of everybody's time...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 03, 2019, 06:12:26 PM
which goes back to what I was saying earlier, why are we signing more import running backs? after all, we still have Flanders on the roster and he's not being used, if indeed we will insert Augustine, it seems like a waste of everybody's time...
Because you need RBs for TC. And no we don't have Flanders. He is a free agent since he was on the PR to end the year.

Every team carries imports at all positions in TC because you need depth. And there are still 10 PR spots


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 03, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
If Nichols goes down, if Bighill goes down...

Why would it be an INT coming in for Harris?  Assuming we re-sign Demski and have Augustine... isn't that what they are for?  WE are not rostering Augustine for ST play...
Demski isnt a full time RB. He can do the odd play but he isn't built nor has the toughness (or ability to hold onto the ball) to be a full time RB.

Also why cant Augustine play STs?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 03, 2019, 08:10:21 PM
which goes back to what I was saying earlier, why are we signing more import running backs? after all, we still have Flanders on the roster and he's not being used, if indeed we will insert Augustine, it seems like a waste of everybody's time...

Flanders is a free agent this year.  He might be back, but he might try signing elsewhere to try to get playing time. 

If he does return, you still bring in other backs to compete with him.  Training camp is 75 people plus draft picks, they are bringing in competition at every position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 03, 2019, 10:31:23 PM
Demski isnt a full time RB. He can do the odd play but he isn't built nor has the toughness (or ability to hold onto the ball) to be a full time RB.

Also why cant Augustine play STs?

Never said Augustine couldn't play ST's, but that isn't what he is on the roster for... not something that he specializes in...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 04, 2019, 02:42:33 AM
Never said Augustine couldn't play ST's, but that isn't what he is on the roster for... not something that he specializes in...
Hard to say considering he has played all of what, 9 games? Hes too young to say he can or can't


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 04, 2019, 04:01:50 PM
Hard to say considering he has played all of what, 9 games? Hes too young to say he can or can't

From his first game... 

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers signed Augustine just a few days before their rookie camp began last month.

Three teams. One year. And finally a chance to play a down of football on Friday.

And Augustine took advantage of his playing time in a big way.

Augustine's 81 yards on eight carries was highlighted by a shifty 18-yard touchdown scamper to put the Bombers up 20-10 at halftime. The 24-year-old added seven yards on one catch, just for good measure.

"I just know that when I get that opportunity, I seize the moment, so I'm not surprised, but at a professional level, this is just surreal," Augustine said. "After tonight, after resting and eating, I know I'm just going to wash it away, learn from my mistakes and hopefully there?s bigger moments like these for me in the future."

Augustine's touchdown run was one thing, but his face really lit up when he recounted his special teams tackle.

"I made a tackle today on specials and I'm more excited about that than rushing the ball," he said. "That's what you've got to do at this level."


Not signed as a special teams demon, nor is it what he is used to...  happy as a puppy to make a ST tackle... which is great if he can become a ST demon... it will keep him a spot on the roster if he does.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 04, 2019, 04:26:02 PM
From his first game... 

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers signed Augustine just a few days before their rookie camp began last month.

Three teams. One year. And finally a chance to play a down of football on Friday.

And Augustine took advantage of his playing time in a big way.

Augustine's 81 yards on eight carries was highlighted by a shifty 18-yard touchdown scamper to put the Bombers up 20-10 at halftime. The 24-year-old added seven yards on one catch, just for good measure.

"I just know that when I get that opportunity, I seize the moment, so I'm not surprised, but at a professional level, this is just surreal," Augustine said. "After tonight, after resting and eating, I know I'm just going to wash it away, learn from my mistakes and hopefully there?s bigger moments like these for me in the future."

Augustine's touchdown run was one thing, but his face really lit up when he recounted his special teams tackle.

"I made a tackle today on specials and I'm more excited about that than rushing the ball," he said. "That's what you've got to do at this level."


Not signed as a special teams demon, nor is it what he is used to...  happy as a puppy to make a ST tackle... which is great if he can become a ST demon... it will keep him a spot on the roster if he does.
I really struggle to see what your point is. You're pretty much agreeing with me


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 04, 2019, 05:22:13 PM
I really struggle to see what your point is. You're pretty much agreeing with me

His point is on the tin-foil hat he wears. :)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 05, 2019, 12:04:21 AM
Latest signings:

BOMBERS RE-SIGN DB JEFF HECHT

WINNIPEG, MB., February 3, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has re-signed national defensive back Jeff Hecht to a one-year contract.

Hecht (5'9, 205, Saint Mary's University, September 24, 1985 in Edmonton, AB.) played 14 games for Winnipeg last season after joining the club in July. He recorded eight defensive tackles, seven special teams tackles, two sacks, one interception and one forced fumble. Hecht is entering his ninth CFL season in 2019, playing in 114 career games with Saskatchewan, Montreal, Calgary and Winnipeg.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/03/bombers-re-sign-db-jeff-hecht/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/03/bombers-re-sign-db-jeff-hecht/)

BOMBERS ADD DEFENSIVE LINEMAN

WINNIPEG, MB., February 4, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive lineman Noble Nwachukwu.

Nwachukwu (6'2, 275, West Virginia University, November 30, 1994 in Wylie, TX.) played four seasons with the West Virginia Mountaineers, finishing with 117 total tackles, 13 sacks, three forced fumbles and seven pass deflections. After college, Nwachukwu signed with the San Francisco 49ers as an undrafted free agent and spent time on their practice squad during the 2017 season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/04/bombers-add-defensive-lineman/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/04/bombers-add-defensive-lineman/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 05, 2019, 12:06:35 AM
Feb 4th transactions:

2019-02-04   WPG   WILSON, Kyrie   LB   I   Fresno State   Add To   Active Roster

2019-02-04   WPG   WILLIAMS, Dom   WR   I   Washington State   Add To   Active Roster

2019-02-04   WPG   BAILEY, Rasheed   WR   I   Delaware Valley   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 05, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
10 8 DAYS TO FREE AGENCY
by Ed Tait

This is how the business of piecing together a Canadian Football League team most often works...

Broken down to its simplest form - and depending on a team's circumstance - the work can be about tearing down and starting over, reloading and tinkering, or just simply grinding to maintain a place of dominance as the elite.

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have spent much of the last five years working from almost all of those blueprints, with that little bit of unfinished business of a Grey Cup championship really keeping them from the dominant side discussion.

But with CFL free agency looming - the annual talent grab opens on Tuesday, February 12th at 11:00 a.m. - the club finds itself in an intriguing position. A crossroads, some might even suggest.

Following a week in which veteran centre Matthias Goossen announced his retirement and with Canadian starters Sukh Chungh, Taylor Loffler and Nic Demski all inching closer to free agency, the Bombers' homegrown talent could very well be on the cusp of a significant makeover.

Just to hammer the thought home further, all this means more than half of the club's seven Canadian starters could change in the next few weeks, with only running back Andrew Harris, left guard Pat Neufeld and receiver Drew Wolitarsky currently under contract.

We'll now examine this a bit further in Part 4 of our free agent preview series, examining the team's Canadian talent situation with the market opening in just over a week.

Part 1: Free Agent Forecast https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/11/free-agent-forecast/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/11/free-agent-forecast/)

Part 2: The Bombers free agent position vs. the West https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/stability-sea-turmoil-look-western-free-agents/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/18/stability-sea-turmoil-look-western-free-agents/)

Part 3: Who remains unsigned? https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/left-list-19-pending-free-agents/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/01/25/left-list-19-pending-free-agents/)

First, here is a current status report of the Bombers' Canadian content:

2018 Canadian starters under contract:

RB Andrew Harris
LG Patrick Neufeld
WR Drew Wolitarsky

2018 Canadian starters who are currently pending free agents:

S Taylor Loffler
RG Sukh Chungh
SB Nic Demski

Retired:

C Matthias Goossen

Other Canadians under contract:

OL Michael Couture
OL Geoff Gray
OL Cody Speller
OL Ben Koczwara
OL Matthew Ouellet De Carlo
FB Mike Miller
FB John Rush
SB Daniel Petermann
WR Rashaun Simonise
RB Johnny Augustine
DT Jake Thomas
LB Jesse Briggs
LB Thomas Miles
LB Shayne Gauthier
DB Derek Jones
DB Abu Conteh
DB Jacob Firlotte
DB Jeff Hecht
LS Chad Rempel

Other Canadians who are currently pending free agents:


RB Kienan LaFrance
LB Frank Renaud
LB Frederic Plesius
DB Brendan Morgan
DE Trent Corney

Every Bomber fan can attest it wasn't too long ago that the team's Canadian talent was a barren wasteland. But through some solid drafting over the last five years the team landed Goossen, Chungh, and Loffler along with current Bombers Jesse Briggs, Derek Jones, Michael Couture, Geoff Gray, Abu Conteh, Rashaun Simonise and Daniel Petermann.

Yet, it's here where the rubber meets the road with the draft-and-develop model. The Bombers had the likes of Goossen, Chungh and Loffler all grow before their very eyes. But as they established themselves as all-stars, their price tags all jump significantly too, with free agency this close.

This is a team that fell short in the West Final in November and wants to add some pieces in free agency to make an already potent offence more dangerous, while growing what they built on defence. An unprecedented free agent class in terms of numbers and talent means those pieces will soon be available on the market - also for a price.

It's true that the release of veteran pieces like Chris Randle and Maurice Leggett and the retirement of Goossen frees up cap space and the Bombers could simply open up the chequebook to keep Loffler, Chungh and Demski. But with returning veterans already under contract seeing their salaries jump, plus the cost of re-signing the likes of Adam Bighill, Stanley Bryant, Jermarcus Hardrick, Jackson Jeffcoat, Justin Medlock, Couture, and Anthony Gaitor, those available dollars get gobbled up quickly.

All of which brings us back to the Canadian content discussion, and specifically, what the Bombers' options might be with the three starters inching closer to free agency.

A deeper dive at that, in no particular order:

OL Sukh Chungh

Credentials: 2018 West Division All-Star; 2016 CFLPA All-Star; gritty and durable presence on the O-line; immensely respected in the dressing room.

Option 1: Re-sign him, meaning the Bombers would have four of last year's five starters (minus Goossen) back.

Option 2: Replace him with one of the Canadian prospects in Couture, Geoff Gray, Cody Speller or 2018 draft picks Ben Koczwara or Matthew Ouellet De Carlo. The Bombers also have two first-round draft picks this spring, fourth and fifth overall.

Option 3: Find a Canadian replacement in free agency at a lower price (check out the list of remaining free agents here)
https://www.cfl.ca/fa19 (https://www.cfl.ca/fa19)

Option 4: Return to starting three imports along the O-line, as they did for much of 2016-2017 with an American working at guard or centre and Bryant and Hardrick at the tackle positions. Already under contract import candidates include Manase Foketi and Chauncey Briggs. That would then require the Bombers to adjust the ratio elsewhere, with the most likely possibility at the defensive tackle position. Brandin Bryant is returning and Drake Nevis is a free agent, but the Bombers could go Canadian beside Bryant, using a combination of veteran Jake Thomas, a prospect drafted this spring, or a veteran free agent from another team.

Safety Taylor Loffler

Credentials: Three-time CFL All-Star - 2016, 2017, 2018 - in each of his first three years in the league. Big hitter who can be an intimidating presence patrolling the middle of the Bombers air defence.

Option 1: Re-sign him. The Bombers secondary will already be undergoing a makeover of its own with Randle released and DB Brandon Alexander and CB Kevin Fogg both pending free agency.

Option 2: Promote from within, handing the starting safety chores to Derek Jones, Jeff Hecht or Abu Conteh, backed up by a prospect added in the draft.

Option 3: Find a Canadian replacement in free agency at a lower price.

Option 4: Flip the ratio, starting an import at safety then - as above - possibly starting a Canadian at defensive tackle.

Slotback Nic Demski

Credentials: Hometown product finished third on the Bombers in rushing and receiving and returned a combined 26 kicks last season.

Option 1: Re-sign him. That would leave just Weston Dressler as the lone unsigned free agent starter from the receiving corps.

Option 2: Shuffle the pieces already in place, moving Drew Wolitarsky to slotback from wide receiver and then starting either Daniel Petermann or Rashaun Simonise at wide out. Or leave Wolitarsky at WR and start Peterman at slotback. The club could augment the depth at the position through the draft.

Option 3: Find a Canadian replacement in free agency at a lower price.

Option 4: Adjust the ratio, starting another American at slot with three Canadians along the OL, Andrew Harris at RB, Wolitarsky at WR and then two on defence (likely safety and defensive tackle).

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/02/10-days-free-agency/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/02/10-days-free-agency/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 05, 2019, 02:10:46 AM
Looks like Fenner got an extension
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster

..and we signed a new DE
2019-02-01   WPG   NWACHUKWU, Noble   DE   I   West Virginia   Add To   Active Roster

he will be a DT in CFL

Fenner restructures contract ahead of free agency

By John Hodge  February 4, 2019

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have a little extra dough to play with ahead of free agency.

Chandler Fenner, Winnipeg's top free agent prize from a year ago, was due to make approximately $130,000 in 2019 on the back half of a two-year contract. The Bombers will save approximately $20,000 in 2019 cap space on Fenner's new deal, per source.

The defensive back was signed to secure the strong-side linebacker ('SAM') position given the uncertainty of Maurice Leggett's health following the Achilles tear he suffered in October of 2017. After starting the season at SAM, Fenner ultimately failed to secure a starting role in the secondary with Leggett and Anthony Gaitor taking over the position as the season progressed.

Fenner still has value as one of the CFL's best special teams players. The 28-year-old recorded 24 special teams tackles in 15 games, good for second in the league. American special teamers don't command high-price tags, however, leading to the restructuring of his contract.

It will be interesting to see how Fenner slots into the Blue Bomber secondary this season with Chris Randle (boundary cornerback) released and Brandon Alexander (field halfback) and Kevin Fogg (field cornerback) still pending free agents.

Gaitor - who recently extended his contract through 2020 - could be called upon to fill one of those roles, opening the door for Fenner to start. Alexander, should he choose to re-sign in Winnipeg, also has experience starting at SAM.

The Bombers have some extra money to spend following Fenner's decision to restructure his contract. We'll find out over the next two weeks how they choose to spend it.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/04/fenner-restructures-contract-ahead-of-free-agency/ (https://3downnation.com/2019/02/04/fenner-restructures-contract-ahead-of-free-agency/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2019, 03:29:05 PM
Corney and Morgan probably will be back.

The top three Chungh, Demski, Loffler, it will be interesting.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 05, 2019, 04:11:29 PM
Corney and Morgan probably will be back.

The top three Chungh, Demski, Loffler, it will be interesting.

From reading Ed's article it sounds like Corney's career might be finished due to injury concerns.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 05, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
"Paging Ed Tait, paging Ed Tait, please step up to the microphone."

Ed, what's the scoop on Qadr Spooner?  How did he go from an "almost ready" #15 over-all draft pick in 2017 to a "unmentionable" today, without ever getting a chance to play?  Too many OG's standing in line in front of him or something else?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 05, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
"Paging Ed Tait, paging Ed Tait, please step up to the microphone."

Ed, what's the scoop on Qadr Spooner?  How did he go from an "almost ready" #15 over-all draft pick in 2017 to a "unmentionable" today, without ever getting a chance to play?  Too many OG's standing in line in front of him or something else?

Did I read there was going to be a Kyle Walters press conference on Friday?

Can we ask him about Spooner?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 05, 2019, 07:35:56 PM
Looks like Fenner got an extension
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-02-01   WPG   FENNER, Chandler   LB   N   Holy Cross   Add To   Active Roster

..and we signed a new DE
2019-02-01   WPG   NWACHUKWU, Noble   DE   I   West Virginia   Add To   Active Roster

he will be a DT in CFL

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/noble-nwachukwu?id=2557990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Iu50ilItE


Fenner took a pay cut. Glad he did because I had him on the list of our overpaid veterans that might face the axe this offseason.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 05, 2019, 09:00:20 PM
From reading Ed's article it sounds like Corney's career might be finished due to injury concerns.
I've been wondering about Corney also. Does anyone know what his injury was?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 06, 2019, 03:33:36 AM
BOMBERS SIGN RECEIVER, RE-SIGN LINEBACKER KYRIE WILSON

WINNIPEG, MB., February 5, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international wide receiver Rasheed Bailey, and re-signed pending free agent linebacker Kyrie Wilson.

Bailey (6'2, 200, Delaware Valley University, July 29, 1993 in Philadelphia, PA.) played four seasons for the Delaware Valley University Aggies, finishing with 165 receptions for 3,138 receiving yards and 29 touchdowns. Bailey finished his college career as the school's all-time leader in receiving yards and second in receiving touchdowns. In 2015, Bailey signed with the Philadelphia Eagles as an undrafted free agent. He also spent time with the BC Lions, Jacksonville Jaguars, San Diego Chargers, Cleveland Browns and Carolina Panthers.

Kyrie Wilson returns to Winnipeg for his third season after originally signing as a free agent prior to the 2017 campaign. Wilson saw action in five regular season games and both postseason games in 2018, recording four defensive tackles, seven special teams tackles, and one sack.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/05/bombers-sign-receiver-re-sign-linebacker-kyrie-wilson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/05/bombers-sign-receiver-re-sign-linebacker-kyrie-wilson/)

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
In a depth move, the #Bombers have re-signed linebacker Kyrie Wilson for two years. He can play both weakside and middle LB.

Jovan Santos-Knox
remains a pending free agent as the markets open in exactly one week. Call him a "must sign," but the price has to be right for GMKW.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 06, 2019, 03:33:52 AM
Remaining Bomber free agents:

DB Brandon Alexander
DB Kevin Fogg
S Taylor Loffler
DB Brendan Morgan

DL Drake Nevis
DL Tristan Okpalaugo
DL Trent Corney

LB Jovan Santos-Knox
LB Frederic Plesius
LB Frank Renaud

WR Nic Demski
WR Weston Dressler
WR Ryan Lankford

RB Kienan LaFrance

OL Sukh Chungh


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 06, 2019, 03:39:42 AM
Alexander, Nevis, Chungh, Loffler, Demski. would be nice to sign all 5.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Ducky on February 06, 2019, 03:51:49 AM
Remaining Bomber free agents:

DB Brandon Alexander
DB Kevin Fogg
S Taylor Loffler
DB Brendan Morgan

DL Drake Nevis
DL Tristan Okpalaugo
DL Trent Corney

LB Jovan Santos-Knox
LB Frederic Plesius
LB Frank Renaud

WR Nic Demski
WR Weston Dressler
WR Ryan Lankford

RB Kienan LaFrance

OL Sukh Chungh

9 starters still unsigned.   :'(

Hopefully a few of them get inked before ufa season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 06, 2019, 04:09:38 AM
Alexander, Nevis, Chungh, Loffler, Demski. would be nice to sign all 5.
At this point I hope they can re-sign Alexander and Chungh.

The Bombers should also be in a position to pick up a couple of key players from other teams.

I just don't think the Bombers will be as active next week as they have been the past few years.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 06, 2019, 01:34:08 PM
At this point I hope they can re-sign Alexander and Chungh.

The Bombers should also be in a position to pick up a couple of key players from other teams.

I just don't think the Bombers will be as active next week as they have been the past few years.

I would think you are right. I do think we will see a couple of additions though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Tehedra on February 06, 2019, 02:44:17 PM
I'd like to see Chung, jsk, nevis, and Alexander back with the team. The others, while some of them would be nice to have, like loffler. There are a few on that list that may improve our team with them gone.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 06, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
What will be interesting will be the fact that we now have one of the most stable, most modern, and most well regarded organization in the league.  Other than Calgary, our management team is the longest surviving, and the club atmosphere is well regarded by all.  And we have state of the art facilities. 

Who wouldn't want to come here.

And now, we have guys like Bighill making a long term commitment, and actually helping with the recruitment process.

Depending on how far into the FA pool Walters wants to dive, he's not going to have to Kavis things up to land a desired player.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 06, 2019, 04:09:56 PM
What will be interesting will be the fact that we now have one of the most stable, most modern, and most well regarded organization in the league.  Other than Calgary, our management team is the longest surviving, and the club atmosphere is well regarded by all.  And we have state of the art facilities. 

Who wouldn't want to come here.

And now, we have guys like Bighill making a long term commitment, and actually helping with the recruitment process.

Depending on how far into the FA pool Walters wants to dive, he's not going to have to Kavis things up to land a desired player.

We don't likely have much money to spend.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 06, 2019, 04:13:29 PM
how so?..we shed a lot...have a lot of starters still unsigned, and save for Bighill we havn't really had to super inflate any salaries yet..In fact Fenner and Medlock took less this year, and who knows who else may have restructured for the betterment of the team...I think we will be pretty top end spenders on what we need...not stupid spenders on whatever is available


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 06, 2019, 04:17:21 PM
how so?..we shed a lot...have a lot of starters still unsigned, and save for Bighill we havn't really had to super inflate any salaries yet..In fact Fenner and Medlock took less this year, and who knows who else may have restructured for the betterment of the team...I think we will be pretty top end spenders on what we need...not stupid spenders on whatever is available
Bighill plus Jeffcoats raise plus Hardrick and Bryant's re-signings. We also don't know if Couture is getting starters $$


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 06, 2019, 04:18:00 PM
how so?..we shed a lot...have a lot of starters still unsigned, and save for Bighill we havn't really had to super inflate any salaries yet..In fact Fenner and Medlock took less this year, and who knows who else may have restructured for the betterment of the team...I think we will be pretty top end spenders on what we need...not stupid spenders on whatever is available

We actually have players under contract unlike most of the league. Some teams are going to blow their brains out in FA. It won't be us.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 06, 2019, 04:59:04 PM
Yeah we do, but also have many starters spots un-accounted for, and we have the QB situations already confirmed, as well as the highest priced player on our defence, as well as probably another one of our more pricey guys (Jeffcoat) locked down now...so we have a better idea of what we have to spend, and where to spend it, without a lot of the market set..several teams are going to have to sit and wait if there are competing offers for the 3 big name QB's to see what they need to pay, and how it will affect every where else...and may miss the boat on a lot of guys

We can conceivably put out what may not even be what "could" be our best offers on guys we want and land then as a lot of guys may feel/know that if they don't sign quick..they may be signing for less after the qb dominoes fall and there might not be as much money to go around as there was early on..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 06, 2019, 05:29:24 PM
Yeah we do, but also have many starters spots un-accounted for, and we have the QB situations already confirmed, as well as the highest priced player on our defence, as well as probably another one of our more pricey guys (Jeffcoat) locked down now...so we have a better idea of what we have to spend, and where to spend it, without a lot of the market set..several teams are going to have to sit and wait if there are competing offers for the 3 big name QB's to see what they need to pay, and how it will affect every where else...and may miss the boat on a lot of guys

We can conceivably put out what may not even be what "could" be our best offers on guys we want and land then as a lot of guys may feel/know that if they don't sign quick..they may be signing for less after the qb dominoes fall and there might not be as much money to go around as there was early on..

The guys demanding the biggest dollars will wait for all offers this year. When the QB dominoes fall they will be in the drivers seat.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 06, 2019, 06:09:43 PM
Some teams will be making a big play to acquire top QB's in free agency. While that may not take an enormous amount of time it will tie up SMS provisions hoping for that to happen.

I perceive that as a slight advantage to the Bombers in the early hours of free agency. We may be able to sign or re-sign a particular player while other teams are hoping to see a QB like Reilly or Harris.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 06, 2019, 08:14:59 PM
QB Matt Nichols set for pay increase but Bombers have an out for 2020
By Justin Dunk  February 6, 2019

While there are a number of high-profile starting quarterbacks set to hit free agency around the CFL, including Calgary's Bo Levi Mitchell, Edmonton's Mike Reilly, Ottawa's Trevor Harris Saskatchewan's Zach Collaros, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers have quarterback Matt Nichols under contract through the 2020 season.

While Nichols' lucrative deal puts him in the upper echelon of pivots around the CFL, the Bombers do have the ability to move on from the 31-year-old without taking any salary hit prior to the 2020 season.

Nichols earned $420,000 in 2018, including a $215,000 bonus when he signed what became a three-year extension. He is scheduled for a pay bump to $455,000 in 2019 and 2020 with each year of the deal structured the same: $225,000 roster bonus on Jan. 15, a $209,000 base salary and $21,000 combined for housing and travel.

If the Bombers wanted to move away from Nichols as their starting quarterback after the 2019 season that decision could be made in mid-January next year without any cap implications for the Winnipeg Football Club.

Nichols had a career-best season in 2017 when he threw for 4,472 yards and 28 touchdowns. The Bombers won 12 games earning the chance to host the West semifinal which the blue and gold lost at home to Edmonton.

During 2018, Nichols' numbers were down with 3,146 yards just 18 touchdowns against 13 interceptions. Winnipeg finished 10-8, travelled to Regina for the West semifinal where the Bombers won while Nichols secured his first ever playoff victory as a starting quarterback in the CFL.

However, rookie Chris Streveler started three games while Nichols' was injured and there were calls for the ultra-athletic quarterback to take over as the starter. The first-year CFLer was a respectable 1-2 as a starter completing 61 per cent of his passes for 1,134 yards, 11 touchdowns against five interceptions and rushing 77 times for 441 yards with 10 touchdowns. Streveler is on a base minimum CFL entry-level contract that runs through the 2019 season.

Winnipeg's quarterback situation is set up with a proven starter and up-and-coming backup with some experience in place for at least one more year. But Nichols will need to prove he's worth the money next season if he wants to continue to see big dollars in 2020.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/06/bombers-qb-matt-nichols-set-for-pay-increase-but-bombers-have-an-out/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 06, 2019, 08:47:40 PM
"but the Bombers have an out"....  sure, in 2020.  They've already spent $225k of the cap on Nichols, their out is before Jan 15, and that has passed for 2019, so Matty is our guy.  Sad thing about that contract is that we don't see much relief if he hits the 6 game, although any replacement for him will be making half of what we will get back in SMS, so I guess its still OK.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 06, 2019, 10:30:47 PM
"but the Bombers have an out"....  sure, in 2020.  They've already spent $225k of the cap on Nichols, their out is before Jan 15, and that has passed for 2019, so Matty is our guy.  Sad thing about that contract is that we don't see much relief if he hits the 6 game, although any replacement for him will be making half of what we will get back in SMS, so I guess its still OK.


Get used to it, Nichols is going to be the Bombers QB this year. Quite frankly after listening to Dave Naylor and Farhan Lalji on the TSN website where they say that if BLM stays in the CFL he's going to want $700,000 IMO we got a bargain. If he gets that it's a huge chunk of the SMS.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 06, 2019, 11:28:27 PM
Yes but Nichols isn't BLM. How many Grey Cup games has Nichols played in?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Dodge and Burn on February 06, 2019, 11:42:50 PM
Yes but Nichols isn't BLM. How many Grey Cup games has Nichols played in?

In the SMS world, its going to be tough for any team to win a cup with spending 700k on one position. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 06, 2019, 11:46:42 PM
Yes but Nichols isn't BLM. How many Grey Cup games has Nichols played in?
The point that I'm making is that I don't want to spend that much money on one player. The rest of the team is going to suffer. I'm also tired of people not giving Nichols another chance. Hopefully changing his diet will do for him what changing mine did for me. It's like night and day.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 07, 2019, 12:04:23 AM
Transactions Feb 6th:

2019-02-06   WPG   JANKE, Dexter   LB   N   Saskatchewan   Add To   Active Roster

Danny Austin   @DannyAustin_9   4 May 2018
Stamps have released national linebacker Dexter Janke.
Fifth round pick in 2015

Scott Mitchell   @ScottyMitchTSN   26 Jul 2015
Three torn ACLs later, 22-year-old Dexter Janke mades #CFL debut with Stampeders

Calgary Stampeders   @calstampeders 12 May 2015
With the 44th overall pick in the #CFLDraft, the #calstampeders have selected DB Dexter Janke from the Okanagan Sun


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 07, 2019, 01:01:39 AM
QB Matt Nichols set for pay increase but Bombers have an out for 2020
By Justin Dunk  February 6, 2019

While there are a number of high-profile starting quarterbacks set to hit free agency around the CFL, including Calgary's Bo Levi Mitchell, Edmonton's Mike Reilly, Ottawa's Trevor Harris Saskatchewan's Zach Collaros, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers have quarterback Matt Nichols under contract through the 2020 season.

While Nichols' lucrative deal puts him in the upper echelon of pivots around the CFL, the Bombers do have the ability to move on from the 31-year-old without taking any salary hit prior to the 2020 season.

Nichols earned $420,000 in 2018, including a $215,000 bonus when he signed what became a three-year extension. He is scheduled for a pay bump to $455,000 in 2019 and 2020 with each year of the deal structured the same: $225,000 roster bonus on Jan. 15, a $209,000 base salary and $21,000 combined for housing and travel.

If the Bombers wanted to move away from Nichols as their starting quarterback after the 2019 season that decision could be made in mid-January next year without any cap implications for the Winnipeg Football Club.

Nichols had a career-best season in 2017 when he threw for 4,472 yards and 28 touchdowns. The Bombers won 12 games earning the chance to host the West semifinal which the blue and gold lost at home to Edmonton.

During 2018, Nichols' numbers were down with 3,146 yards just 18 touchdowns against 13 interceptions. Winnipeg finished 10-8, travelled to Regina for the West semifinal where the Bombers won while Nichols secured his first ever playoff victory as a starting quarterback in the CFL.

However, rookie Chris Streveler started three games while Nichols' was injured and there were calls for the ultra-athletic quarterback to take over as the starter. The first-year CFLer was a respectable 1-2 as a starter completing 61 per cent of his passes for 1,134 yards, 11 touchdowns against five interceptions and rushing 77 times for 441 yards with 10 touchdowns. Streveler is on a base minimum CFL entry-level contract that runs through the 2019 season.

Winnipeg's quarterback situation is set up with a proven starter and up-and-coming backup with some experience in place for at least one more year. But Nichols will need to prove he's worth the money next season if he wants to continue to see big dollars in 2020.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/06/bombers-qb-matt-nichols-set-for-pay-increase-but-bombers-have-an-out/

Anyone else think this article was ridiculous?

Who writes that many words on the fact that a team can cut a player before the roster bonus is due?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on February 07, 2019, 01:49:27 AM
$700k for BLM is a joke. No team will be able to fork that over.

as for him winning Grey Cups, ya, he's won 1, but he's also lost 2...and he lost the game for them a year ago, with his bogus picks. Sorry, for $700k, they can have BLM, he ain't THAT good!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on February 07, 2019, 02:04:01 AM
Anyone else think this article was ridiculous?

Who writes that many words on the fact that a team can cut a player before the roster bonus is due?

Yeah, I thought maybe I was missing something or didn?t understand an intricate concept. But thanks for clarifying that the article was just about the fact, like everyone else, for as long as ever, contracts aren?t guaranteed and we can just cut him and not have to pay him. I feel dumber after reading that article.

And like aards said, that?s nice and all, but it has 0 implications for 2019 because Jan 15 had passed!

I imagine we absolutely will know before Jan 2020 the direction we go. Will Strev take over? Will Nichols have a 2017 season again, or is he on the permanent decline? These are great topics for articles for 3dn. Someone should fill them in.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: BlueInCgy on February 07, 2019, 04:17:15 AM
$700k for BLM is a joke. No team will be able to fork that over.

as for him winning Grey Cups, ya, he's won 1, but he's also lost 2...and he lost the game for them a year ago, with his bogus picks. Sorry, for $700k, they can have BLM, he ain't THAT good!!

A) He has won 2 GCs in 5 years of starting, and has only missed leading the Stamps to the cup once in 5 years.  Ray has won 4, Burris and Calvillo 3, and all those were over 15 year ish careers.
B) His win loss ratio over that time is nearly 5:1
C) Jorden lost them the game in 2017
D) He holds three CFL QB records
E) He has been MOP twice in 5 years
F) He is literally the best QB in the CFL right now, and is on track to easily be the greatest QB in CFL history if he stays.


If the likes of Nichols and Collaros are worth mid 400s, 700k is a reasonable expectation for BLM.  Whether or not it is feasible under the salary cap is another issue, but he won?t get paid substantially less than that.  People don?t have to like the guy, but don?t let that cloud out the facts.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 07, 2019, 01:43:24 PM
I hope he makes over $700, it will hurt the team the team that pays that more than it will help them IMO


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 07, 2019, 01:48:12 PM
I hope he makes over $700, it will hurt the team the team that pays that more than it will help them IMO

This is new next big QB contract, it's going to be significantly higher than 550k (which I think is as high as we've seen so far). The salary cap will also be increasing. I don't think getting close to 700k is out of the question.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 07, 2019, 01:51:28 PM
Using the numbers from that 3Down article, if Nichols is worth $455,000 then Bo Levi is worth somewhere in the $600,000 range by my estimation. A team (other than Calgary) probably has to overpay to get them there so $700,000 while crazy, doesn't sound so unrealistic suddenly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 07, 2019, 01:57:28 PM
This is new next big QB contract, it's going to be significantly higher than 550k (which I think is as high as we've seen so far). The salary cap will also be increasing. I don't think getting close to 700k is out of the question.


I am just guessing as much as the next guy, but IMO with the way people are cutting the cord and the frustration Canadians have with media outlets coupled with explosion of "streaming technology" I can't see the CFL getting a better deal than what they currently have for TV rights. If I am correct and the TV deal which is the main source of income for the CFL stays the same, goes up minimally, or worse even drops with the next negotiation how can the salary cap increase to the point where a single player can make 700 plus and not have a huge impact on the overall roster. It's not like the "gate" is bringing in extra money, attendance is down, T.O can barely get fans to games after winning the cup. I don't think it is doom and gloom for our league, but I simply do not see it being able to sustain salaries like that. Again this is my opinion.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 07, 2019, 02:29:50 PM
I appreciate that the article outlines how much Nichols makes and how much of his salary has already been paid 'up front'. Cutting or trading Nichols now would mean flushing his bonus money down the drain and if Nichols gets injured, the SMS benefit will be very small.

BLM, Reilly and Harris will get big increases this year, no matter if the SMS number goes up very much or not and I doubt that it goes up very much. Any of them turns a close to good team into a serious contender. Teams will pay big for that, even knowing it means they have to scrimp somewhere else. It's a choice between a great QB and rookie backups or better backups and an average to below average QB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blueraid on February 07, 2019, 02:32:02 PM
IF Bo wants that kind of dough he better keep ferreting around in the states....What pundits and the media think he's worth is not going to square with the reality of the sms in this league...Of course he could be paid that by a desperate organization (ahem riders) and the rest of the club with be operating on thin ice and suffering....Saner heads will prevail........hopefully unless desperation tips the scales


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Tehedra on February 07, 2019, 02:33:00 PM
I appreciate that the article outlines how much Nichols makes and how much of his salary has already been paid 'up front'. Cutting or trading Nichols now would mean flushing his bonus money down the drain and if Nichols gets injured, the SMS benefit will be very small.

BLM, Reilly and Harris will get big increases this year, no matter if the SMS number goes up very much or not and I doubt that it goes up very much. Any of them turns a close to good team into a serious contender. Teams will pay big for that, even knowing it means they have to scrimp somewhere else. It's a choice between a great QB and rookie backups or better backups and an average to below average QB.

It actually also helps us understand the decision to bring him off the six-game early last year; because apparently they had already pretty much taken the cap hit.  I actually do not like that his roster bonus is so high! 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 07, 2019, 02:36:10 PM
Transactions Feb 6th:

2019-02-06   WPG   JANKE, Dexter   LB   N   Saskatchewan   Add To   Active Roster

Danny Austin   @DannyAustin_9   4 May 2018
Stamps have released national linebacker Dexter Janke.
Fifth round pick in 2015

Scott Mitchell   @ScottyMitchTSN   26 Jul 2015
Three torn ACLs later, 22-year-old Dexter Janke mades #CFL debut with Stampeders

Calgary Stampeders   @calstampeders 12 May 2015
With the 44th overall pick in the #CFLDraft, the #calstampeders have selected DB Dexter Janke from the Okanagan Sun

Hmmmm. 3 ACL injuries. He's played RB, DB and ST's. He was fast in the combines in the early days but not sure how his injuries impacted his speed.

Looks like a utility player added for depth during TC.  Likely a replacement for Renaud, Plesius or Morgan?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 07, 2019, 02:36:33 PM
It actually also helps us understand the decision to bring him off the six-game early last year; because apparently they had already pretty much taken the cap hit.  I actually do not like that his roster bonus is so high! 
Good point. I hadn't thought of that.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 07, 2019, 08:26:00 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., February 7, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international wide receiver Dom Williams and national defensive back Dexter Janke.

Williams (6'2, 190, Washington State University, December 11, 1992 in Pomona, CA.) played four seasons for Washington State, totalling 2,889 receiving yards and 30 touchdowns in 192 receptions. Williams finished his college career second all-time in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. In 2016, Williams signed as an undrafted free agent with San Diego (NFL), going on to spend 2017-2018 with the Eagles on injured reserve, and spending time in the Detroit Lions' organization last summer.

Janke (6'0, 220, University of Saskatchewan, October 4, 1992 in Edmonton AB.) was selected in the fifth round of the 2015 CFL Draft by the Calgary Stampeders. In three seasons with the Stampeders, Janke made 14 total tackles in 16 games played. Janke spent his four-year college career with the Saskatchewan Huskies, playing solely at the running back position. He totaled 730 yards rushing and eight touchdowns with the Huskies.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/07/bombers-add-two-roster-8/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/07/bombers-add-two-roster-8/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 07, 2019, 09:13:20 PM
If Nichols gets injured, the SMS benefit will be very small.

Can you show where the SMS would not be his full salary pro rated over games missed on the 6 game  IR?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 07, 2019, 09:24:53 PM
Can you show where the SMS would not be his full salary pro rated over games missed on the 6 game  IR?

If the 3Down article is correct, he gets just over half his salary as a signing bonus. This means it's paid out regardless of injury and is a cap hit immediately. It's advantageous for American players, because as per our tax laws, he's only taxed at 15% for the lump sum, compared to closer to 50% off his salaried cheques. So, if we lost him for 6-games, we're really only saving somewhere in the neighborhood of $70,000-ish.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/06/bombers-qb-matt-nichols-set-for-pay-increase-but-bombers-have-an-out/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 07, 2019, 09:30:14 PM
Can you show where the SMS would not be his full salary pro rated over games missed on the 6 game  IR?
I can't. Can you show where it is? I doubt it's pro rated tho.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 07, 2019, 09:37:57 PM
If the 3Down article is correct, he gets just over half his salary as a signing bonus. This means it's paid out regardless of injury and is a cap hit immediately. It's advantageous for American players, because as per our tax laws, he's only taxed at 15% for the lump sum, compared to closer to 50% off his salaried cheques. So, if we lost him for 6-games, we're really only saving somewhere in the neighborhood of $70,000-ish.

https://3downnation.com/2019/02/06/bombers-qb-matt-nichols-set-for-pay-increase-but-bombers-have-an-out/

You can retroactively place guys on the 6 game IR can you not? That would also be an immediate cap hit.

The money may be guaranteed for Matt Nichols but I am not sure it applies to the SMS hit regarding the 6 game IR, which does not count against the cap but pays players in full.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 07, 2019, 09:38:35 PM
I can't. Can you show where it is? I doubt it's pro rated tho.

I didn't make the statement, you did.

I am asking the question.
 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 07, 2019, 09:42:36 PM
You can retroactively place guys on the 6 game IR can you not? That would also be an immediate cap hit.

The money may be guaranteed for Matt Nichols but I am not sure it applies to the SMS hit regarding the 6 game IR, which does not count against the cap but pays players in full.

When on the 6 game, players game cheques are protected from SMS.  Nichols got half his pay on Jan 15th, his game cheques are half what his salary is...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 07, 2019, 09:48:45 PM
You can retroactively place guys on the 6 game IR can you not? That would also be an immediate cap hit.

The money may be guaranteed for Matt Nichols but I am not sure it applies to the SMS hit regarding the 6 game IR, which does not count against the cap but pays players in full.

Don't think it can be retroactive. On 6 game IR you can't practice either. So you can't 1 game IR a guy for 5 games and let him practice then say ok he still can't play and then 6 game IR him retroactively.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 07, 2019, 09:49:32 PM
When on the 6 game, players game cheques are protected from SMS.  Nichols got half his pay on Jan 15th, his game cheques are half what his salary is...

When Matt Nichols goes on the 6 game IR his contract does not count against the cap, is that regardless of when he gets it?

This is not an issue of Matt Nichols getting paid, it is an issue of how it applies against the cap while on IR.

Quite frankly, if it is the non bonus money only, that is an exceptionally stupid thing for any team to agree to with any player.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 07, 2019, 09:56:01 PM
Don't think it can be retroactive. On 6 game IR you can't practice either. So you can't 1 game IR a guy for 5 games and let him practice then say ok he still can't play and then 6 game IR him retroactively.

You could be right. But, other leagues definitely do it.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/03/need-know-nichols-off-ir/

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Nichols was injured in a non-contact play near the end of practice on June 6th ? just over a week ahead of their season opening loss to the Edmonton Eskimos. The following day he was placed on the six-game injury list ? an administrative move that could have given the club salary-cap relief if he had remained for the duration.

If it is some negligible amount I doubt Tait brings it up


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 08, 2019, 12:10:53 AM
I didn't make the statement, you did.

I am asking the question.
 
I answered and asked a question of my own. What makes you think that it would be pro-rated instead of just the money owed the player during his time off the field. It's like the Durant situation last year. Once the cheque is cashed, it goes against the SMS.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 08, 2019, 12:24:59 AM
I answered and asked a question of my own. What makes you think that it would be pro-rated instead of just the money owed the player during his time off the field. It's like the Durant situation last year. Once the cheque is cashed, it goes against the SMS.

Because it is an insane guarantee where an injured player takes a giant cap hit  to potentially never play a down that season.

It benefits the team in no way.

It is not at all like Durant, who retired, and there is no provision to exclude retired player salary from the cap, as there is when a player is placed on, and completes the full, 6 game IR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 08, 2019, 12:27:53 AM
I answered and asked a question

You made a statement of fact that I would like to see confirmation of.

You asked me to prove something I never claimed to be true.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 08, 2019, 12:57:27 AM
You made a statement of fact that I would like to see confirmation of.

You asked me to prove something I never claimed to be true.
I read the CBA and the CFL rules online. There is no mention of pro-rated salary when it comes to the IR. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that the 6 game salary relief is pro-rated.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 08, 2019, 01:05:29 AM
I read the CBA and the CFL rules online. There is no mention of pro-rated salary when it comes to the IR. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that the 6 game salary relief is pro-rated.

What section are you looking at which speaks to how the 6 game IR is applied to cap space?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 08, 2019, 01:21:05 AM
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Players added to the 6-game injured list have their salaries excluded from the salary cap for the duration they are on the list.
From: https://cfldb.ca/faq/rosters/#how-do-cfl-rosters-work

Quote
F. Six Game Injury List
1. ...  When placed on the Six Game Injury List the Player?s salary and benefits shall be excluded from the Minimum Member
Club Players? Salary and the salary expenditure cap.
From: CFL?CFLPA Collective Agreement 2014 (pdf) Page 43

Neither document says anything about pro rating of the salaries.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 08, 2019, 01:25:16 AM
Because it is an insane guarantee where an injured player takes a giant cap hit  to potentially never play a down that season.

It benefits the team in no way.

It is not at all like Durant, who retired, and there is no provision to exclude retired player salary from the cap, as there is when a player is placed on, and completes the full, 6 game IR.

There is a risk for the club, absolutely, but there is also a benefit.  A player will sign for less money overall if he gets more of it frontloaded.  If the player doesn?t get injures, great for club.  If he gets injured for six games, no cap hit, no damage.  If the player gets injured intermittently, the club gets less relief.  Two of those things are good, one isn?t.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 08, 2019, 01:31:29 AM
From: https://cfldb.ca/faq/rosters/#how-do-cfl-rosters-work
 From: CFL?CFLPA Collective Agreement 2014 (pdf) Page 43

Neither document says anything about pro rating of the salaries.

Did I say pro-rating the salary or pro-rating the cap hit.

The hit against the cap is what I am talking about.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 08, 2019, 01:35:39 AM
There is a risk for the club, absolutely, but there is also a benefit.  A player will sign for less money overall if he gets more of it frontloaded.  If the player doesn?t get injures, great for club.  If he gets injured for six games, no cap hit, no damage.  If the player gets injured intermittently, the club gets less relief.  Two of those things are good, one isn?t.

I don't think anybody considered Nichols at 400k + a steal of a deal.

How much do you think he was going to make?

I don't really consider it a benefit to the team at all.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 08, 2019, 02:36:02 AM
I don't think anybody considered Nichols at 400k + a steal of a deal.

How much do you think he was going to make?

I don't really consider it a benefit to the team at all.

The fact that you don?t like it doesn?t make it less true.

That?s one of the main negotiating dynamics in CFL contracts.  Up front money is valuable to the player, and teams use that to leverage something they want - lower overall cost, longer term, etc.

That doesn?t mean that GMs don?t sign bad deals.  Sometimes they give up too much signing money and don?t get enough in return.  But to categorically state there is no benefit to the team just isn?t true.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2019, 03:25:32 AM
We could always go after Harris and dump or trade Nichols.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 08, 2019, 03:55:40 AM
The fact that you don?t like it doesn?t make it less true.

That?s one of the main negotiating dynamics in CFL contracts.  Up front money is valuable to the player, and teams use that to leverage something they want - lower overall cost, longer term, etc.

That doesn?t mean that GMs don?t sign bad deals.  Sometimes they give up too much signing money and don?t get enough in return.  But to categorically state there is no benefit to the team just isn?t true.

Definitely doesn't mean your right.

Lower cost is debatable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 08, 2019, 05:55:04 AM
Did I say pro-rating the salary or pro-rating the cap hit.

The hit against the cap is what I am talking about.
Neither say anything about pro-rating the cap hit.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2019, 02:16:52 PM
We've been under the impression that big upfront money for import players is a tax advantage. In theory we've had discussion that as a result a player may take less in total but come out ahead due to tax implications.

That's the upside for both sides. Of course the downside is potential for injury and not being able to shelter SMS on IR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 08, 2019, 03:09:12 PM
Because it is an insane guarantee where an injured player takes a giant cap hit  to potentially never play a down that season.

It benefits the team in no way.

It is not at all like Durant, who retired, and there is no provision to exclude retired player salary from the cap, as there is when a player is placed on, and completes the full, 6 game IR.

It hugely benefits the player from a tax perspective (15% tax on bonus, 35% tax on salary), and for a guaranteed money perspective.  For a team, if they think it is a worthwhile gamble on a player staying healthy, it allows them to sign the player, and usually for less total SMS cap hit.

So, yeah, there is a benefit to the team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Horseman on February 08, 2019, 03:32:40 PM
Food for thought...BLM says he is open to playing for other CFL teams other than Calgary. Probably just a bargaining ploy to get Calgary to pony up (Pun intended). But what if he means it?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 08, 2019, 03:33:48 PM
Food for thought...BLM says he is open to playing for other CFL teams other than Calgary. Probably just a bargaining ploy to get Calgary to pony up (Pun intended). But what if he means it?

Then there's going to be a pretty massive bidding war.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 08, 2019, 03:42:31 PM
\depending on Reilly's and Harris' decisions, there are 3 top tier QB's and 6 teams looking... We are not, I don't think MTL can bid, and Ham is happy with Masoli.  Other than those three...  6 teams, 3 QBs.  It is going to get expensive if teams decide to get into a bidding war. 

I'm waiting for the actual execution of the offers.  We're going to get 6 teams throwing numbers at 3 guys, and it is going to be a who blinks first moment.  Once one QB makes a decision, everything gets bigger.  5 teams for 2 QBs, then 4 teams and one QB...  so does a QB decide "That's my number" and sign right away, or do they wait for one of the others to make a decision and take advantage of that reduced supply market bump?

Nicest thing about this, as we won't be in that market, we can concentrate on the players we really want, and get them signed before anyone notices ;)

Unless we get some QB extensions soon, it is going to make for a very fun FA day...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 08, 2019, 03:44:50 PM
Food for thought...BLM says he is open to playing for other CFL teams other than Calgary. Probably just a bargaining ploy to get Calgary to pony up (Pun intended). But what if he means it?

Wouldn't read too much into that. He has played at a discount the past couple of seasons in Calgary. This is just his way of telling them that the hometown discount will not be happening.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 08, 2019, 03:45:34 PM
Bo might also be waiting until NFL free agency. Which is in March.

Throws a wrench in the system for some teams.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 08, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
I think Bo has reserved himself to the fact that he is in the CFL...or he would have signed already...politics more than anything will prevent him of any nice upfront money and or legit shot at a number 2...or even number 1 spot.

He will wait till free-agency opens here...feel out who offers what and go to CGY with whats your best...and sign there...Edm..BC..Sask and possibly I bet Montreal will all battle over Reilly (with Montreal looking to trade Manziel if they in the running) and think Harris will do the same as Bo...tho I think harris most likely already has come to terms with Ottawa or is close and just hasn't signed yet

Somebody sadly is gonna have to over pay for Jennings which is a good thing for us, and I bet Collaros is back in SASK as they are desperate and probably not even in Reilly, bO's and Harris' plans at all...too much unknown going on there.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on February 08, 2019, 05:16:27 PM
Ed Tait
‏ @EdTaitWFC
9m9 minutes ago

Quick takes from #Bombers GM Kyle Walters pre-free agency presser: 1. Still negotiating with Sukh Chungh, but nothing close yet; 2. Taylor Loffler will test the market; 3. Talks also ongoing with Jovan Santos-Knox, but two sides are 'long way apart  from getting anything done.'


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on February 08, 2019, 05:17:24 PM
Darrin Bauming
‏ @DarrinBauming
19m19 minutes ago

Walters says Canadian rush end Trent Corney, the #Bombers? 2015 9th-overall draft pick pick, will ?move on from football? for the benefit of his continued health. Corney missed most of last season due to injury.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on February 08, 2019, 05:18:16 PM
Darrin Bauming
‏ @DarrinBauming
23m23 minutes ago

Darrin Bauming Retweeted Darrin Bauming

Walters says the #Bombers have a price-point and Sukh Chungh?s camp has a price point, and negotiations are ongoing and will continue up until, or through, Tuesday.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2019, 05:19:20 PM
Walter open your bank and pay Chungh.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 08, 2019, 05:21:40 PM
I think that JSK and Chungh will be re-signed. Gaps close quick if negotiations continue.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 08, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Darrin Bauming
‏ @DarrinBauming
23m23 minutes ago

Darrin Bauming Retweeted Darrin Bauming

Walters says the #Bombers have a price-point and Sukh Chungh?s camp has a price point, and negotiations are ongoing and will continue up until, or through, Tuesday.

No mention of Dressler?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 08, 2019, 05:41:01 PM
No mention of Dressler?

Other (less good) news:

@DarrinBauming
#Bombers GM Kyle Walters says perennial All-Star safety Taylor Loffler will explore free agency, and the club is ?far apart? from Jovan Santos-Knox?s camp, so the young linebacker will explore the market as well. The free agency period opens Tuesday, February 12 at 11am Central. ? at Investors Group Field


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on February 08, 2019, 05:49:52 PM
Darrin Bauming
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19m19 minutes ago

Walters says Canadian rush end Trent Corney, the #Bombers? 2015 9th-overall draft pick pick, will ?move on from football? for the benefit of his continued health. Corney missed most of last season due to injury.


This is discussion-worthy.

Never a star or anything but there was a lot of hype associated with him: being the replacement for Westerman down the line, when it seemed that DE would be a nat position for the foreseeable future, and remember his training camp blog we all followed so closely?

The guy is an athletic freak which really goes to show how difficult it is to be a pro athlete when a guy like Corney can't stay healthy enough to play the game.

Best of luck in your future, Trent.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 08, 2019, 06:18:40 PM
This is discussion-worthy.

Never a star or anything but there was a lot of hype associated with him: being the replacement for Westerman down the line, when it seemed that DE would be a nat position for the foreseeable future, and remember his training camp blog we all followed so closely?

The guy is an athletic freak which really goes to show how difficult it is to be a pro athlete when a guy like Corney can't stay healthy enough to play the game.

Best of luck in your future, Trent.

Yeah, I was really disappointed not to see more of him this year, I thought he was ready to break out.  Tough for him, touch break for the team.  Hope it is just something that limits his ability to play pro football and nothing more serious.

Doubling down now on the wisdom of signing Jesse Joseph in FA. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2019, 06:21:48 PM
Yeah, I was really disappointed not to see more of him this year, I thought he was ready to break out.  Tough for him, touch break for the team.  Hope it is just something that limits his ability to play pro football and nothing more serious.

Doubling down now on the wisdom of signing Jesse Joseph in FA. 

IIRC someone mentioned his injury was to his knee and that he was rehabbing well. That said a light may have gone on saying time to look at his career post football and that time was now for him.

Good luck to him in his future and good health.

Too bad. I was hoping he'd continue his development but as we know, football careers are short etc etc.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2019, 06:41:25 PM
I know there are still a few days before free agency but I hope we can sign at least a few of our starters before then. Not looking forward to the next week or so. Excited maybe but it's looking like we're going to have a new team and changes are on the horizon.

Not necessarily a bad thing so don't get me wrong.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on February 08, 2019, 08:20:11 PM
I know there are still a few days before free agency but I hope we can sign at least a few of our starters before then. Not looking forward to the next week or so. Excited maybe but it's looking like we're going to have a new team and changes are on the horizon.

Not necessarily a bad thing so don't get me wrong.

At the very least, it will be extremely entertaining and something to talk about. The horribly boring stretch from the GC to FA is almost over!

Really, all we have is FA, the draft and then TC. This is the first and will
Hopefully bridge the spaces of boredom leading up to the start of the season (which also includes warmer weather).

Ideally, we will address all our problems and new ones will be created for the opposition next week. The stuff in between is gravy for the fans.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2019, 10:19:29 PM
Knox has one good year playing next to one of the best MLB's in the CFL, and now wants big money???


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 09, 2019, 12:07:24 AM
Knox has one good year playing next to one of the best MLB's in the CFL, and now wants big money???
::) ::)

I'm not surprised to see comments like this, but I still think its hilarious. This was Knox first full season. His rookie year he played just as well, albeit smaller sample sizes.

Yes, he had one good year. That's all you need. Plus, he's only 24.

Believe it or not, good players expect good money.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 09, 2019, 01:41:56 AM
::) ::)

I'm not surprised to see comments like this, but I still think its hilarious. This was Knox first full season. His rookie year he played just as well, albeit smaller sample sizes.

Yes, he had one good year. That's all you need. Plus, he's only 24.

Believe it or not, good players expect good money.

JSK played well next to Sam Hurl too.

He is a good player who is getting better. I hope he comes back, but don't blame him for wanting to get paid.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2019, 02:11:31 PM
JSK played well next to Sam Hurl too.

He is a good player who is getting better. I hope he comes back, but don't blame him for wanting to get paid.



I don't believe WIL's are particularly among the higher paying defensive positions. In the past we've found several players that have played well there very early. IMO it's one of the easier positions to fill.

Depending on what happens in free agency there may not be many CFL openings at either WIL or MLB ( where he's not a proven force ). There are several other very good WIL's available at the moment.

JSK deserves a raise and I don't know what our offer is compared to his ask. All this said I don't really see too many other CFL landing spots after the dust settles with the other LB's.

IMO I don't see a giant bidding war from other teams. Money and opportunities may quickly disappear in the 1st few days of free agency as SMS is used and decisions made.

As I've mentioned a few times we may need to take a serious look at Lokombo to fill our WIL and sustain our ratio if we lose Loffler. Even if we don't lose Loffler this might still resolve having only 1 Canuck on defense as a starter.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Ridermania on February 09, 2019, 02:58:35 PM
I think the Bombers sign Dressler for one last year, maybe around $100K plus bonuses.

Need a reliable receiver for Nichols and Lapo to utilize and exploit defences.

Clock is ticking and the Bombers need to be all-in this year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2019, 03:14:14 PM
I think the Bombers sign Dressler for one last year, maybe around $100K plus bonuses.

Need a reliable receiver for Nichols and Lapo to utilize and exploit defences.

Clock is ticking and the Bombers need to be all-in this year.

That's what we said for 2018 as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 09, 2019, 03:27:52 PM
JSK will be a loss.

He makes big plays in big moments and plays with a high energy level.

I definitely want the kid back. If he sees the offers are pretty close, I hope he does come back.
 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blueraid on February 09, 2019, 05:29:11 PM
I don't see us over paying for Santos-Knox...It'll be interesting to watch the kind of year he has, IF he moves on ,when he doesn't have Biggie at his side....One good year and after playing along side the best mlb in the league, doesn't warrant huge dollars...I'd like to see him get a bump, and if he shows us this year he can continue to improve his game, talk dollars again next year...So a one year deal with more money (not crazy dollars) and pay raise talk next yr.Otherwise....see ya


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 09, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
JSK wasn't healthy enough to try out for NFL teams, have to wonder where he is in his rehab.  We haven't been very lucky with signing injured players recently, it will be interesting to see what the market is for him.  Love to see him back and healthy, he was a very good player with Biggie.  But I don't think we will miss him much if he doesn't return, WIL is a much easier spot to find a player for than say, MLB or DL...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 09, 2019, 10:43:33 PM
I don't believe WIL's are particularly among the higher paying defensive positions. In the past we've found several players that have played well there very early. IMO it's one of the easier positions to fill.

Depending on what happens in free agency there may not be many CFL openings at either WIL or MLB ( where he's not a proven force ). There are several other very good WIL's available at the moment.

JSK deserves a raise and I don't know what our offer is compared to his ask. All this said I don't really see too many other CFL landing spots after the dust settles with the other LB's.

IMO I don't see a giant bidding war from other teams. Money and opportunities may quickly disappear in the 1st few days of free agency as SMS is used and decisions made.

As I've mentioned a few times we may need to take a serious look at Lokombo to fill our WIL and sustain our ratio if we lose Loffler. Even if we don't lose Loffler this might still resolve having only 1 Canuck on defense as a starter.

Jeff Hamilton in the Free Press is reporting that JSK is asking upwards of $175 000 a season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 09, 2019, 10:52:55 PM
Jeff Hamilton in the Free Press is reporting that JSK is asking upwards of $175 000 a season.
Wow! Guess you kinda count for inflation and th living in beautiful British Colombia.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2019, 11:42:13 PM
Jeff Hamilton in the Free Press is reporting that JSK is asking upwards of $175 000 a season.

Pass. Way too much.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 09, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Big fan of JSK.

It is just too high an ask.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2019, 12:57:29 AM
Coming off injury, I'm not sure he's going to get any action at that price...  I can see a year at $140k...  with some of that incentivized on games played...  but it sounds like he might be positioning himself to wait for his NFL window once he gets healthy, adn then maybe a early season signing when Bear Woods gets injured ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 10, 2019, 06:25:58 PM
Some observations I have after reading Jeff Hamilton's column in the Free Press.
Sukh Chungh is looking for $250,000. The Bombers are offering him something closer to $200,000. Let's hope that they come to an agreement because apparently if they can't sign him they will start 3 American OL and Jake Thomas will start on the DL.
Apparently they haven't even offered Dressler a contract so he's apparently gone. Demski is looking for too much money so he's probably pricing himself out.
The DL is affected by what happens with the OL.
Loffler wants $175,000 which is more than the Bombers are willing to pay. He'll probably be replaced by Derek Jones with Hecht as a backup.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 10, 2019, 06:48:10 PM
Some observations I have after reading Jeff Hamilton's column in the Free Press.
Sukh Chungh is looking for $250,000. The Bombers are offering him something closer to $200,000. Let's hope that they come to an agreement because apparently if they can't sign him they will start 3 American OL and Jake Thomas will start on the DL.
Apparently they haven't even offered Dressler a contract so he's apparently gone. Demski is looking for too much money so he's probably pricing himself out.
The DL is affected by what happens with the OL.
Loffler wants $175,000 which is more than the Bombers are willing to pay. He'll probably be replaced by Derek Jones with Hecht as a backup.

Not sure which of these are your conclusions and which are Hamilton's (haven'r read the column), but I wouldn't take some of them as carved in stone.

In the event Chung moves on, I think it highly debatable whether they will go to an import OG.  Signing Gott as a replacement while Gray learns would be much preferable.  I also don't think they would plan to start Jake Thomas, I mean they cut him last year and brought him back as an injury replacement.  He may still have a role, but it ain't as a starter.  I think Hamilton is looking at solutions through an historical lens. 

I agree with what you wrote about safety, although I am still lobbying for them to sign Courtney Stephen.  Loffler is history at $175k.

Demski might well price himself out of the market, but I think the Bombers have sufficient assets at receiver to survive that. 





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2019, 07:19:32 PM
Some observations I have after reading Jeff Hamilton's column in the Free Press.
Sukh Chungh is looking for $250,000. The Bombers are offering him something closer to $200,000. Let's hope that they come to an agreement because apparently if they can't sign him they will start 3 American OL and Jake Thomas will start on the DL.
Apparently they haven't even offered Dressler a contract so he's apparently gone. Demski is looking for too much money so he's probably pricing himself out.
The DL is affected by what happens with the OL.
Loffler wants $175,000 which is more than the Bombers are willing to pay. He'll probably be replaced by Derek Jones with Hecht as a backup.

Swell. Thomas is not good enough to be a full time starter. At the moment we have no back up Canadian DL players to rotate. If that comes to being I hope we re-sign Bond. Import OL guards are not the easiest to find. Not sure if Foketi would be the 1st choice there. He might be.

So what does this say about Gray, Couture and all the other Canadian OL from the 2018 draft?

Aside from losing Chungh ( possibly ) and Goossen ( retirement ) we're going to replace Demski and Loffler with Jones and Petermann?

YIKES.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 10, 2019, 07:39:34 PM
Not sure which of these are your conclusions and which are Hamilton's (haven'r read the column), but I wouldn't take some of them as carved in stone.

In the event Chung moves on, I think it highly debatable whether they will go to an import OG.  Signing Gott as a replacement while Gray learns would be much preferable.  I also don't think they would plan to start Jake Thomas, I mean they cut him last year and brought him back as an injury replacement.  He may still have a role, but it ain't as a starter.  I think Hamilton is looking at solutions through an historical lens. 

I agree with what you wrote about safety, although I am still lobbying for them to sign Courtney Stephen.  Loffler is history at $175k.

Demski might well price himself out of the market, but I think the Bombers have sufficient assets at receiver to survive that. 




It's in the article.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 10, 2019, 07:42:37 PM
Swell. Thomas is not good enough to be a full time starter. At the moment we have no back up Canadian DL players to rotate. If that comes to being I hope we re-sign Bond. Import OL guards are not the easiest to find. Not sure if Foketi would be the 1st choice there. He might be.

So what does this say about Gray, Couture and all the other Canadian OL from the 2018 draft?

Aside from losing Chungh ( possibly ) and Goossen ( retirement ) we're going to replace Demski and Loffler with Jones and Petermann?

YIKES.
Apparently they think that they can draft a DL as a backup. Couture will become the starting OC but apparently they don't want to start Gray unless they have to.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2019, 09:48:38 PM
Apparently they think that they can draft a DL as a backup. Couture will become the starting OC but apparently they don't want to start Gray unless they have to.

Doesn't change the fact that Thomas shouldn't be the full time starter. I would expect the team to draft a DT but wouldn't expect much out of him unless we possibly move up in the draft to 1st or 2nd pick.

We drafted Ekakitie at # 1 pick and he may not even make another CFL team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 10, 2019, 10:08:25 PM
Doesn't change the fact that Thomas shouldn't be the full time starter. I would expect the team to draft a DT but wouldn't expect much out of him unless we possibly move up in the draft to 1st or 2nd pick.

We drafted Ekakitie at # 1 pick and he may not even make another CFL team.

Walters has said this a strong draft at receiver and DL. So I assume we're looking at a guy on the line to rotate with Thomas.

Again, obviously a downgrade, but it's where we are at the moment.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on February 11, 2019, 01:12:17 AM
Doesn't change the fact that Thomas shouldn't be the full time starter. I would expect the team to draft a DT but wouldn't expect much out of him unless we possibly move up in the draft to 1st or 2nd pick.

We drafted Ekakitie at # 1 pick and he may not even make another CFL team.
He won?t, that guy was an absolute bust


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 11, 2019, 02:09:53 AM
He won?t, that guy was an absolute bust
I just wanna erase that draft class from my memory, besides Gray and Conteh


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on February 11, 2019, 02:52:00 AM
Sounds like Chungh, JSK & Loffler may have outpriced themselves by $25-$50K not only for the BB?s, but quite possibly the rest of the league.

That said, I could see BC going in on Chungh somewhere between $200-225G & convincing Loffler to come home for $160G.

My guess on JSK is his agent will find out how ridiculous the asking price of $175G is and realize that having his client play another year beside the CFL MODP is the smart thing to do for his clients future NFL aspirations.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on February 11, 2019, 03:15:28 AM
I can see bc signing Chung but I think that we ll be able to give Loffler a better offer than the lions, reilly burnham and Chung won?t come cheap and they still have to sign solly and manny


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 01:33:40 PM
regardless what that article says..there is no way Thomas will be the starter on the d-line...never...and if that happens...total regression.

If we are way out priced for Loffler and Chungh...and possibly JSK....Then I sign Lokombo and Filer as he would blend in well with this line (plus he has a cool stache)
I also re-evaluate Demski value over price..He doesn't drive our offence and goes with wayyyy too many stretches of dissappearing...the role he played can be replaced by another player, and you use his money to bring in either a) Adeleke...or b) Ackie...you have rotational depth for defence and can conceivably start Adelek/Ackie at safety..Lokombo at JSK's position (whom has familiarity with Biggie) or if we lucky and Jones or Conteh look good at safety then have a linebacking corp of Biggie..Lokombo..

You start the season with a Lokombo/biggie/Adeleke orAckie linebacking corp...then on offence we only need Woli/Harris/Neufeld and Filer with Gray or Couture battling as back-up...Or we roll with simonese out wide and start 3 imports...way may flexibility and way more cap friendly


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 11, 2019, 01:42:37 PM
regardless what that article says..there is no way Thomas will be the starter on the d-line...never...and if that happens...total regression.

If we are way out priced for Loffler and Chungh...and possibly JSK....Then I sign Lokombo and Filer as he would blend in well with this line (plus he has a cool stache)
I also re-evaluate Demski value over price..He doesn't drive our offence and goes with wayyyy too many stretches of dissappearing...the role he played can be replaced by another player, and you use his money to bring in either a) Adeleke...or b) Ackie...you have rotational depth for defence and can conceivably start Adelek/Ackie at safety..Lokombo at JSK's position (whom has familiarity with Biggie) or if we lucky and Jones or Conteh look good at safety then have a linebacking corp of Biggie..Lokombo..

You start the season with a Lokombo/biggie/Adeleke orAckie linebacking corp...then on offence we only need Woli/Harris/Neufeld and Filer with Gray or Couture battling as back-up...Or we roll with simonese out wide and start 3 imports...way may flexibility and way more cap friendly

Agree with most of what you have written, but I think Lokombo or Ackie will want money close to what Santos Knox is asking.  Also, I?ll be shocked if Filer signs anywhere but Hamilton.

If we do have to pick up OL help, I would love to get Spencer Wilson.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 01:50:31 PM
yeah but it balances out with punting Loffler..JSK and Chungh all wanting 175k plus


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2019, 01:59:30 PM
Well Chungh should be paid like all the rest of the top Canadian OL. Loffler has been the best Canadian safety in the CFL. But $175. is crazy. JSK again had a pretty good year, but again $175 is to much.
 
Give Chungh what he wants and spend JSK's we have Wilson now, spend JSK's money on Alexander.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 02:05:51 PM
Agree with most of what you have written, but I think Lokombo or Ackie will want money close to what Santos Knox is asking.  Also, I?ll be shocked if Filer signs anywhere but Hamilton.

If we do have to pick up OL help, I would love to get Spencer Wilson.

Except that Lokombo is a National player and that makes his value higher than JSK.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 11, 2019, 03:01:25 PM
Except that Lokombo is a National player and that makes his value higher than JSK.

Yes, but if JSK is asking $175k, you might actually be able to sign Lokombo for that and address both WIL and the ratio.  I don't think JSK will get $175k, but he might have to test free agency to find that out. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
I think JSK will find out that probably for his second deal 135-145k is more realistic at the high end, especially coming into the season off an injury where he couldn't really train most the off-season...and would fit in our SMS.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2019, 03:32:19 PM
Well Chungh should be paid like all the rest of the top Canadian OL. Loffler has been the best Canadian safety in the CFL. But $175. is crazy. JSK again had a pretty good year, but again $175 is to much.
 
Give Chungh what he wants and spend JSK's we have Wilson now, spend JSK's money on Alexander.

Chungh is already being paid well for his position as he's re-upped with the team at least once and was being paid market value.  If he wants to be the highest paid O-lineman in the league perhaps he can explain how he's more valuable than Stanley at LT.  I think he would admit that his skill set does not stand up well in that position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 03:36:59 PM
Yes, but if JSK is asking $175k, you might actually be able to sign Lokombo for that and address both WIL and the ratio.  I don't think JSK will get $175k, but he might have to test free agency to find that out. 

Well yes. That's the end point to balance both problems we might have. Even without that problem it could help with more flexibility with the ratio and having more than 1 national on defense.

Lokombo may have connections with Bighill, Fenner, Gaitor and Roh so that might be of interest in playing here.

It Reilly to Vancouver because of Lulay has any bearing then this might as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
I think JSK will find out that probably for his second deal 135-145k is more realistic at the high end, especially coming into the season off an injury where he couldn't really train most the off-season...and would fit in our SMS.


Even that might be a bit high even if we can afford it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2019, 03:38:29 PM
I think JSK will find out that probably for his second deal 135-145k is more realistic at the high end, especially coming into the season off an injury where he couldn't really train most the off-season...and would fit in our SMS.


Good chance a lot of bluffing is going on, players just trying to get the most they can and will settle on the most money they can get.  I don't think the process is as adversarial as many fans are making it out to be, some players like to gamble a bit, some don't, agents and their opinions can also interfere with direct communication and make negotiation seem more dramatic than they are.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2019, 03:47:15 PM
Even that might be a bit high even if we can afford it.

I'd be happy if they could sign both Loffler and JSK for around $150,000 each, Loffler needs to be rewarded for paying his dues for 3 years at a low price point while earning all-star approval and JSK so that he can continue to develop alongside Bighill.  Loffler seems to have the stronger argument when ratio is considered, I'd pick him over JSK at similar numbers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 03:52:13 PM
Loffler though last year was making 100k...hardly peanuts


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2019, 04:02:17 PM
Loffler though last year was making 100k...hardly peanuts

Where did you get that number?  He wouldn't have been offered that much on his rookie contract considering the injury risk they took on him and I don't recall any renegotiation of that deal.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 04:03:42 PM
was an increase over his 3 year deal...he never signed at league min either on the first yr....if you dig in social media enough you can find that number


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on February 11, 2019, 04:21:10 PM
was an increase over his 3 year deal...he never signed at league min either on the first yr....if you dig in social media enough you can find that number

Yeah, you are going to have to source that if you want people to believe it.

I went 4 pages deep into a Google search on "Taylor Loffler Contract" and "Taylor Loffler Salary" and all I could find was that he originally signed a 3 year deal, with no mention of it ever being restructured.  And that makes sense, because if they restructured, they would have added term, not just thrown more money on the pile.

Now, its possible his 3 year deal was stepped to provide him $100k by his third year. But this article on Faith Ekakitie shows that such a deal would be more in keeping with a first overall pick, which Loffler was definitely not.  And Ekakities deal was a big bump over the first contract that Josiah St. John signed the year before, which was Loffler's draft year.

https://3downnation.com/2017/05/16/first-overall-pick-2017-cfl-draft-gets-healthy-raise/

I am however, open to persuasion if its supported by some kind of link....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 04:37:07 PM
Baumin..Tyalor...someone tweeted it also at some point...and Also I know certain things...and won't say names on here...so take it at that....believe what you want to believe


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 11, 2019, 04:38:27 PM
Yeah, you are going to have to source that if you want people to believe it.

I went 4 pages deep into a Google search on "Taylor Loffler Contract" and "Taylor Loffler Salary" and all I could find was that he originally signed a 3 year deal, with no mention of it ever being restructured.  And that makes sense, because if they restructured, they would have added term, not just thrown more money on the pile.

Now, its possible his 3 year deal was stepped to provide him $100k by his third year. But this article on Faith Ekakitie shows that such a deal would be more in keeping with a first overall pick, which Loffler was definitely not.  And Ekakities deal was a big bump over the first contract that Josiah St. John signed the year before, which was Loffler's draft year.

https://3downnation.com/2017/05/16/first-overall-pick-2017-cfl-draft-gets-healthy-raise/

I am however, open to persuasion if its supported by some kind of link....
Also just because something was never reported to the "media" doesn't mean tweeks were not made...that much I will tell you and I stand by my 100k dollar value


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 11, 2019, 04:55:27 PM
Also just because something was never reported to the "media" doesn't mean tweeks were not made...that much I will tell you and I stand by my 100k dollar value
well seeing how much Demski and I think even LaFrance make I can see he's going to test the market.   He was an allstar and neither Demski or LaFrance can make that claim.   The way Loffler plays his career isn't likely to be a long one so I can't blame him for looking for more $$.   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2019, 05:04:13 PM
Until we hear to the contrary I'll assume Loffler's original contract was for somewhere around $70,000-$85,000 with the upper end being generous based on his initial health risk and durability.  Being a particularly old-fashioned "woody' type person I think he decided to honour that contract and play through it's extended term without putting up a fuss, knowing he would be compensated fairly for his next contract, which well could be his last. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 06:18:28 PM

Conversation

Jovan Santos-Knox

@jsant05

Never asked for a lot, just something fair. Kinda funny tho reading some of these numbers people claim I?m asking for

maybe one day lol



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 06:19:16 PM
Keep that in mind when you start believing things like Chungh is asking for 250k


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 06:20:53 PM
Conversation

Jovan Santos-Knox

@jsant05

Never asked for a lot, just something fair. Kinda funny tho reading some of these numbers people claim I?m asking for

maybe one day lol



Definition of fair is dependent on point of view. The Bombers are in the position to understand market value and opportunities. I can't believe they wouldn't make a fair offer.

So sign it or move on.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 06:21:53 PM
Keep that in mind when you start believing things like Chungh is asking for 250k

Keep in mind that while we don't really know what players are asking, we do know they haven't re-signed yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 06:24:34 PM
Keep in mind that while we don't really know what players are asking, we do know they haven't re-signed yet.

Means nothing.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 06:25:42 PM
Definition of fair is dependent on point of view. The Bombers are in the position to understand market value and opportunities. I can't believe they wouldn't make a fair offer.

So sign it or move on.

He had seen the numbers people are speculating and laughing at them.

Does that really need to be explained to you?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 06:40:17 PM
He had seen the numbers people are speculating and laughing at them.

Does that really need to be explained to you?

No but apparently you need to have it explained again that he has NOT re-signed or come to an agreement with the Bombers. Whether he's asking for $100K or $200K is essentially irrelevant. It's been reported they are far apart in negotiations.

Maybe he's laughing because we feel he isn't worth what we've heard he's asking and he thinks he is worth that much.

Like I said. Come to an agreement or find a new team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 06:42:01 PM
No but apparently you need to have it explained again that he has NOT re-signed or come to an agreement with the Bombers. Whether he's asking for $100K or $200K is essentially irrelevant. It's been reported they are far apart in negotiations.

Has literally nothing to do with what was posted.

Thanks for dropping in with "he hasn't signed yet". Useless

"Sign or find a new team". Pretty sure that is what he is doing.

I believe it is called "free agency".



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 06:45:24 PM
Has literally nothing to do with what was posted.

Thanks for dropping in with "he hasn't signed yet". Useless

"Sign or find a new team". Pretty sure that is what he is doing.

I believe it is called "free agency".



Has everything to do with what was posted. Talk about useless information.

If he had asked for something " fair " he'd have been re-signed already. Why would Walters not sign him if that were true?

If we get him back that's great. If not " next " will fill the roster spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
Has everything to do with what was posted. Talk about useless information.

The point is the price people are speculating it would cost to get him back.

Not a question as to whether he had re-signed, or even a comment whether he should be re-signed.

I don't really have the patience to explain this to you, and will not respond further.   :D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 06:51:09 PM
The point is the price people are speculating it would cost to get him back.

Not a question as to whether he had re-signed, or even a comment whether he should be re-signed.

I don't really have the patience to explain this to you, and will not respond further.   :D

Good. That's usually the response when someone has nothing to say. See ya.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2019, 06:58:50 PM
Maybe it's not a lot to him. However in a league where the salary cap is very small??


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 07:05:56 PM
Maybe it's not a lot to him. However in a league where the salary cap is very small??

Well that's the argument. I don't feel we believe the Bombers try to under value players and low ball them. They've been involved in the CFL for a long time. JSK is a 2 year guy and used to seeing how much players make in the NFL.

Can't blame him for wanting a lot of money but this isn't the NFL and he doesn't play as critical a position as MLB for example. Or shutdown CB or top DE.

It's not that I don't believe players shouldn't be paid more. However, they are young adults still making a lot more money than many of their fans and doing it in 1/2 a year. Not many people get to more than double their salary after this short a period.

I'm not saying he's only worth $100K but let's use that as an example. I can imagine they are many posters on here of all ages that would jump at that number for 6 months work.

There are also going to be 100's on import players that won't get drafted of get invited to NFL TC's.

Market value is set by more than just those players currently in the CFL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Tehedra on February 11, 2019, 07:20:52 PM
Well that's the argument. I don't feel we believe the Bombers try to under value players and low ball them. They've been involved in the CFL for a long time. JSK is a 2 year guy and used to seeing how much players make in the NFL.

Can't blame him for wanting a lot of money but this isn't the NFL and he doesn't play as critical a position as MLB for example. Or shutdown CB or top DE.

It's not that I don't believe players shouldn't be paid more. However, they are young adults still making a lot more money than many of their fans and doing it in 1/2 a year. Not many people get to more than double their salary after this short a period.

I'm not saying he's only worth $100K but let's use that as an example. I can imagine they are many posters on here of all ages that would jump at that number for 6 months work.

There are also going to be 100's on import players that won't get drafted of get invited to NFL TC's.

Market value is set by more than just those players currently in the CFL.

I mean at the end of the day, the average Canadian doesn't make 100k/yr


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 11, 2019, 07:25:51 PM
I would give Chungh what he wants, hope JSK becomes more reasonable and let Loffler go and try to sign Adeleke.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 07:27:51 PM
I mean at the end of the day, the average Canadian doesn't make 100k/yr

I almost choked when I heard the Super Bowl winners receive $118K usd and the losers get half that amount.

Also heard Gronk say he's never spent any of the $58M he's made on his NFL money. He spends money he makes on his endorsements. He didn't give a number but I suspect it's a boatload.

Just the Super bowl money alone would be about $140K Cad. Yikes.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 07:29:03 PM
I almost choked when I heard the Super Bowl winners receive $118K usd and the losers get half that amount.

Also heard Gronk say he's never spent any of the $58M he's made on his NFL money. He spends money he makes on his endorsements. He didn't give a number but I suspect it's a boatload.

Just the Super bowl money alone would be about $140K Cad. Yikes.

Don't look up what the winning Pro Bowl team received. It will ruin your day.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 11, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
I mean at the end of the day, the average Canadian doesn't make 100k/yr

We've had this discussion on the board before - but athletes have expenses that "the average Canadian" doesn't have. And the Americans are obviously losing huge percentages of their income when they go back home.  

It's not precisely as simple as saying they make good money for six months of the year. There is more than one asterisk attached to that number.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 07:32:41 PM
I would give Chungh what he wants, hope JSK becomes more reasonable and let Loffler go and try to sign Adeleke.

I'd like to sign Adeleke anyway. He's a talented young player and very versatile. Not sure how much he wants but he'd be on my list.

As far as Chungh I'm concerned they are far apart in negotiations, so that surprises me. I guess we'll see what happens and part of that may be how comfortable they are with Gray and Couture both being starters.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 07:34:23 PM
We've had this discussion on the board before - but athletes have expenses that "the average Canadian" doesn't have. And the Americans are obviously losing huge percentages of their income when they go back home.  

It's not precisely as simple as saying they make good money for six months of the year. There is more than one asterisk attached to that number.

Not suggesting that but there are also many Americans that don't go home. They live in their CFL cities year round.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 11, 2019, 07:36:06 PM
We've had this discussion on the board before - but athletes have expenses that "the average Canadian" doesn't have. And the Americans are obviously losing huge percentages of their income when they go back home.  

It's not precisely as simple as saying they make good money for six months of the year. There is more than one asterisk attached to that number.

The tax issue is very significant. They get hit hard.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 08:23:56 PM
A player can make good coin in Canada, and live in a wonderful country, even if he has the wrong passport.  And they can become Canadian too, and have reduced health care costs though that, etc. 

CFL is not a league for mercenaries... but it does welcome players that embrace it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 11, 2019, 09:21:23 PM
A player can make good coin in Canada, and live in a wonderful country, even if he has the wrong passport.  And they can become Canadian too, and have reduced health care costs though that, etc. 

CFL is not a league for mercenaries... but it does welcome players that embrace it.

Mercenary is such a stupid term in this context. Players who prefer to test free agency can still "embrace" the league. Everyone cites Henoc as the classic example of the label but if anything, he's proved it is a league for that behavior because he's always been paid very well from a CFL context. As for "good coin" that's a matter of opinion based on your own perspective. I wouldn't consider league minimum to be "good coin" for what they have to do but that's just me.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 09:26:30 PM
Mercenary is such a stupid term in this context. Players who prefer to test free agency can still "embrace" the league. Everyone cites Henoc as the classic example of the label but if anything, he's proved it is a league for that behavior because he's always been paid very well from a CFL context. As for "good coin" that's a matter of opinion based on your own perspective. I wouldn't consider league minimum to be "good coin" but that's just me.

OK, you are taking a different tack on the word "mercenary" than the one I was using.  I'm talking about a player using the CFL to make money. 

"That's it, just gimme a paycheck, thanks. I'm back to Memphis the day the season ends, and don't expect me here until day 1 of TC."

Players that are good for this league are those that come and embrace the team, league and city.  They can make a nice life here, do things in the community, even raise a family all in the town they came to play in.  Guys like Obby Khan or Jason Vega to name recent ones...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 11, 2019, 09:39:46 PM
OK, you are taking a different tack on the word "mercenary" than the one I was using.  I'm talking about a player using the CFL to make money. 

"That's it, just gimme a paycheck, thanks. I'm back to Memphis the day the season ends, and don't expect me here until day 1 of TC."

Players that are good for this league are those that come and embrace the team, league and city.  They can make a nice life here, do things in the community, even raise a family all in the town they came to play in.  Guys like Obby Khan or Jason Vega to name recent ones...

All players use the CFL to make money. It's literally their livelihood. If the teams didn't pay, they wouldn't play. All of them. This is the basic concept of working. What you are referring to is something different entirely. Some people move to a city/town for a job, and then stay in that place for a variety of reasons. Some people become intertwined within a community and give back or start a business. Those people (players in this context) arguably 'get more' out of their CFL experience, but only at first glance, in reality they worked just as hard as anyone else for those opportunities. The CFL might give them some slight name recognition and prominence, but that's about it. There is no support network of people propping up ex-bomber businesses and giving good jobs to ex players who wouldn't otherwise get them. Your sense of reality is way off kilter here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 09:48:06 PM
All players use the CFL to make money. It's literally their livelihood. If the teams didn't pay, they wouldn't play. All of them. This is the basic concept of working. What you are referring to is something different entirely. Some people move to a city/town for a job, and then stay in that place for a variety of reasons. Some people become intertwined within a community and give back or start a business. Those people (players in this context) arguably 'get more' out of their CFL experience, but only at first glance, in reality they worked just as hard as anyone else for those opportunities. The CFL might give them some slight name recognition and prominence, but that's about it. There is no support network of people propping up ex-bomber businesses and giving good jobs to ex players who wouldn't otherwise get them. Your sense of reality is way off kilter here.

Not sure is Shawarma Khan is a big success here without Obby's time with the Bombers.  I'm sure Jason Vega is a great car salesman, but you can bet he got a leg up in that biz though his association with the Bombers.  Not saying either wouldn't be a success had they not played ball here, just saying it did not hurt them at all.

Again, if you are in the CFL just for the money, you picked the wrong job.  You make decent money, sure, but if you aren't here because you love to play, you'd be better off working for a living. 

How many people would love to play their game for a living?  And keep doing so as long as the game would allow? 

When a guy like Wilder starts complaining about money, and compares the CFL to AAF saying that the CFL better up its game... sigh...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2019, 09:58:07 PM
Many current CFL players have " career " jobs they are working on while they play in the league. Their football career is usually very short.

Goossen is the prime example of this, retiring in his prime. Probably will initially make less working for Delta police but it can be a life long successful career. His university and education work made this possible.

Bighill is preparing his post football career in Winnipeg. I don't know he'll make as much immediately but it's probably not a position that is paying low wages either.

Rod Hill stayed in Winnipeg as did many former import players as well. As some posters have said, Winnipeg is a great community to live and work.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 11, 2019, 10:56:05 PM
To me the American players fall into one of two categories. Either they're a young player trying to get back to the NFL or an older player who has tired of bouncing around the NFL. Either way not many of them stick around.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on February 12, 2019, 12:13:21 AM
Nothing official but there are reports circulating that the Blue Bombers have re-signed Brandon Alexander before free agency


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 12:14:02 AM
Nothing official but there are reports circulating that the Blue Bombers have re-signed Brandon Alexander before free agency



Darrin Bauming

@DarrinBauming

According to sources, the #Bombers have agreed on a two-year contract extension with defensive back Brandon Alexander, keeping him in Blue & Gold through 2020. Alexander was hours away from hitting the free agent market. Strong signing. #CFLFA



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on February 12, 2019, 12:22:13 AM


Darrin Bauming

@DarrinBauming

According to sources, the #Bombers have agreed on a two-year contract extension with defensive back Brandon Alexander, keeping him in Blue & Gold through 2020. Alexander was hours away from hitting the free agent market. Strong signing. #CFLFA



A reminder that patience pays off when developing players.  He showed great promise from the beginning and is now becoming a great asset to this organization.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
Nothing official but there are reports circulating that the Blue Bombers have re-signed Brandon Alexander before free agency

Huzzah!!!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 12:25:52 AM
A reminder that patience pays off when developing players.  He showed great promise from the beginning and is now becoming a great asset to this organization.

Yup. He had a very solid 2018 after an up and down 2017.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 12, 2019, 12:39:17 AM
That's a good signing.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 12:48:17 AM
I really feel like Humes is a starter Game 1


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue newt on February 12, 2019, 12:51:50 AM
Nothing official but there are reports circulating that the Blue Bombers have re-signed Brandon Alexander before free agency

*happy dance*

 ;D

I was *hoping* that there'd be some 11th hour good news.

I'm a touch greedy and would like some more just-in-the-nick-of-time good news, but I'm stoked Alexander is back.  Too many pieces on our defense to replace as is, and he's a valuable piece to hold onto.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 01:07:28 AM
I really feel like Humes is a starter Game 1

We only have Alexander and Sayles from last season, so Humes is a good bet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:10:41 AM
We only have Alexander and Sayles from last season, so Humes is a good bet.

Gaitor?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: The Zipp on February 12, 2019, 01:11:16 AM
From bob Irving

Jovan Santos Knox tells Bombers he?s not coming back. Significant loss for Bombers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:15:04 AM
From bob Irving

Jovan Santos Knox tells Bombers he?s not coming back. Significant loss for Bombers.

Ouch.

I still love the kid. Best of luck JSK.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 12, 2019, 01:18:35 AM
From bob Irving

Jovan Santos Knox tells Bombers he?s not coming back. Significant loss for Bombers.
Well crap! That's a big loss IMO.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 01:18:50 AM
Gaitor?

He?s locked in at SAM, I would think.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RebusRankin on February 12, 2019, 01:18:58 AM
Happy about the Alexander re-signing.

Sucks about Santos-Knox.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:19:55 AM
He?s locked in at SAM, I would think.

Probably, but with Fenner re-structuring I wonder where he goes.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 01:20:24 AM
From bob Irving

Jovan Santos Knox tells Bombers he?s not coming back. Significant loss for Bombers.

Expecting that. Position is Wilson?s to lose, I guess.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 01:21:09 AM
Probably, but with Fenner re-structuring I wonder where he goes.

I forgot about Fenner. He was so disappointing last year. Maybe he can lock down the HB spot I expected him to play.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:25:10 AM
I forgot about Fenner. He was so disappointing last year. Maybe he can lock down the HB spot I expected him to play.

Guess we will see.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:27:56 AM

Jeff Hamilton@jeffkhamilton

Expect the #Bombers to go after a high-profile receiver in free agency. Besides somewhat contradicting my last tweet a little bit, don't be surprised if Winnipeg pulls out all the stops to get Greg Ellingson, one of the league's premier pass-catchers.


Credit to Noeller on MBB...stealing directly from his post for this one



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2019, 01:28:18 AM
Ouch.

I still love the kid. Best of luck JSK.
. Would love to know why?

Other CFL team?

NFL?

Moving on for ball?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2019, 01:29:20 AM
Jeff Hamilton@jeffkhamilton

Expect the #Bombers to go after a high-profile receiver in free agency. Besides somewhat contradicting my last tweet a little bit, don't be surprised if Winnipeg pulls out all the stops to get Greg Ellingson, one of the league's premier pass-catchers.


Credit to Noeller on MBB...stealing directly from his post for this one


Ellingson would look good in blue and gold.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:30:01 AM
. Would love to know why?

Other CFL team?

NFL?

Moving on for ball?
 

Id bet a 150k/ year - 2 year deal with NFL option after 2019 to sign with another team.

He will be missed here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:34:48 AM
Ellingson would look good in blue and gold.

I would not be signing him to a big money contract, personally. Walker is 27/28 I'm more interested in him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: thunderNlightning on February 12, 2019, 01:52:33 AM
Are there any options out there left in FA to replace JSK?

I wonder if Walters gave him a take it or leave it offer?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 02:00:45 AM
I'm betting they start with Kyrie Wilson.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 12, 2019, 02:01:07 AM
Are there any options out there left in FA to replace JSK?

I wonder if Walters gave him a take it or leave it offer?

Dean, Awe, Ackie* or Lokombo*

*Nationals


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 02:02:56 AM
I would not be signing him to a big money contract, personally. Walker is 27/28 I'm more interested in him.

Walker also had some injury trouble last year. Ellingson has been very healthy and consistent.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: thunderNlightning on February 12, 2019, 02:04:38 AM
Dean, Awe, Ackie* or Lokombo*

*Nationals

I would take a run at Awe


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 02:07:52 AM
Walker also had some injury trouble last year. Ellingson has been very healthy and consistent.

Walker has had injury problems, for sure. A healthy Walker is a more dangerous player. He put up 900 yards in 11 games last year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 02:12:16 AM
Too bad about JSK but glad to have Alexander back. I would definitely try to get Ellingson but wouldn't mind getting Posey.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 02:15:00 AM
What happened with Ellingson's refusal to take a breathalyzer charge?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: thunderNlightning on February 12, 2019, 02:26:31 AM
Walker has had injury problems, for sure. A healthy Walker is a more dangerous player. He put up 900 yards in 11 games last year.

He has also had Reilly throwing to him in a pass happy offense.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RebusRankin on February 12, 2019, 02:29:48 AM
Adams-Ellingson-Wolitarsky is a nice 1-2-3.

Depending on what they do with the ratio, Awe would be a nice add at WLB. Hey, maybe its Adeleke at S and Awe at WLB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 02:33:25 AM
He has also had Reilly throwing to him in a pass happy offense.
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Hate this argument. You still gotta be a good receiver to have success. It's not just the QB


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 02:38:07 AM
He has also had Reilly throwing to him in a pass happy offense.

He got open and made catches.

Ellingson played against trash teams from he East half the year too I guess.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 02:38:59 AM
Adams-Ellingson-Wolitarsky is a nice 1-2-3.

Depending on what they do with the ratio, Awe would be a nice add at WLB. Hey, maybe its Adeleke at S and Awe at WLB.

It would be middle pack on paper.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 02:48:08 AM
With all the good receivers that are going to be out there tomorrow the Bombers better sign one of them or IMO it will be a big fail.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2019, 02:55:33 AM
Bummer about JSK. Sounds like he is pretty sure about getting more than the BB will pay him or he suddenly has new plans that?ll keep him down south.

The Alexander signing is great news!! This signing now gives Walters some options on FA day. He can attempt to go after someone like  Ciante Evans...or focus his time & money on filling other holes.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 03:02:23 AM
Are there any options out there left in FA to replace JSK?


Bo Lokombo if they want a Natl. in that position, which they should strongly consider. 

Don Unamba if they're looking to replace JSK with a down and dirty Import play-maker who can play any position in the secondary well.  Fresh off his first CFL All-Star season with the Ti-Cats, Unamba could make a triumphant return to the city that initially brought him into the league in 2014!  Ok, I won't mention him again until Walters publicly apologizes for the organization's mistake and re-signs him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 03:04:53 AM
Don Unamba if they're looking to replace JSK with a down and dirty Import play-maker who can play any position in the secondary well.  Fresh off his first CFL All-Star season with the Ti-Cats, Unamba could make a triumphant return to the city that initially brought him into the league in 2014!  Ok, I won't mention him again until Walters publicly apologizes for the organization's mistake and re-signs him.
JSK is a Will, Unamba is a SAM.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 03:16:29 AM
I'm betting they start with Kyrie Wilson.

I'm betting they don't.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 03:21:18 AM
JSK is a Will, Unamba is a SAM.

Meh, Unamba started at WIL, has played HB, corner and is now a SAM.  He can play anywhere.  Oops, you tricked me!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 03:30:27 AM
Meh, Unamba started at WIL, has played HB, corner and is now a SAM.  He can play anywhere.  Oops, you tricked me!
When has Unamba started Wil? He's only 195 pounds, so I'm not sure he would fit as a Will unless Etcheverry is coaching


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 03:51:03 AM
JSK is a Will, Unamba is a SAM.

I would not be interested at either position.

They seem to be high on Wilson, they signed him to a two year contract. Likely the front runner.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on February 12, 2019, 03:58:20 AM
Bob Irving
‏ @BobIrvingCJOB
3h3 hours ago

Jovan Santos Knox tells Bombers he's not coming back. Significant loss for Bombers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 04:12:57 AM
To bad, but that's football. Good luck JSK.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 07:44:23 AM
We seem to be losing a lot of very good players....for various reasons.   JSK was a potential all star....so we aren't making many significant moves while other teams are?   The biggest signing was of course Bighill followed by Jeffcoat....so what's up?   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2019, 11:47:52 AM
We seem to be losing a lot of very good players....for various reasons.   JSK was a potential all star....so we aren't making many significant moves while other teams are?   The biggest signing was of course Bighill followed by Jeffcoat....so what's up?  

Dude, I don't know what you're talking about anymore. We've signed some of our biggest names and free agency hasn't started yet. We will make our moves when we're allowed to, like all the other teams.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: bigbuff33 on February 12, 2019, 11:52:22 AM
Alexander signs two year contract

We're going to lose players...as is every team


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 12, 2019, 12:20:50 PM
BOMBERS RE-SIGN DEFENSIVE BACK BRANDON ALEXANDER

WINNIPEG, MB., February 12, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed international defensive back Brandon Alexander to a new two-year contract. Alexander was scheduled to become a free agent, but will now remain with the Bombers through the 2020 season.

Alexander (6-0, 192, University of Central Florida, September 27, 1992 in Orlando, FL) has appeared in 29 games over the 2017 and 2018 seasons with the Bombers and has become one of the club's most versatile defenders, playing both in the secondary and at the outside linebacker position.

Over the last two years, Alexander has registered 88 tackles, four interceptions - one for a touchdown - and four forced fumbles. In 14 games in 2018, all starts, Alexander accumulated 36 tackles, three interceptions and five tackles for a loss.

Alexander joined the Bombers in 2017 and made an instant impact en route to being named the team's Most Outstanding Rookie. He joined the team after attending training camp with the Atlanta Falcons in 2015 and following a spectacular college career at UCF, where he earned a full scholarship as a walk-on in 2012, was named to the American Athletic Conference All-Academic Team in 2013, and was twice nominated for the Burlsworth Trophy, awarded annually to the college football player who began his career as a walk-on player.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/bombers-re-sign-defensive-back-brandon-alexander/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/bombers-re-sign-defensive-back-brandon-alexander/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 12, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
Bombers hitting the market this morning:

DB Kevin Fogg
S Taylor Loffler
DB Brendan Morgan

DL Drake Nevis
DL Tristan Okpalaugo

LB Jovan Santos-Knox
LB Frederic Plesius
LB Frank Renaud

WR Nic Demski
WR Weston Dressler
WR Ryan Lankford

RB Kienan LaFrance

OL Sukh Chungh


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 01:02:52 PM
Darren Cameron says Chungh signing is below 50%

That really hurts.

I hope the kid gets paid. I will miss having him here. No hard feelings from me.

If it is BC and they sign Micah Johnson and Davis then this league is a farce.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 02:50:19 PM
Darren Cameron says Chungh signing is below 50%

That really hurts.

I hope the kid gets paid. I will miss having him here. No hard feelings from me.

If it is BC and they sign Micah Johnson and Davis then this league is a farce.

Below 50% is still a chance. Part of it might still be negotiation tactics. Until he signs elsewhere we're probably still talking with his agent.

I suspect many of the top free agents land somewhere very quickly this week. Chungh would be one of those highly sought after players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 03:11:25 PM
Darren Cameron says Chungh signing is below 50%

That really hurts.

I hope the kid gets paid. I will miss having him here. No hard feelings from me.

If it is BC and they sign Micah Johnson and Davis then this league is a farce.
BC can't. Reilly, Burnham, Carter and apparently Chungh, Davis and Johnson (plus Lee lll). That's a lot of cap


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 03:17:59 PM
Really hoping we get Walker, Daniels, or Posey. No interest in Ellingson from me. I would be disappointed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 03:27:23 PM
I just hope we can replace some of those good players we are likely to lose....this is a crazy year and if Harris and BLM head west we are going to be in tough just to make the playoffs.....I'm sorry for sounding so skeptical but I'm not liking how many blue chip players we are losing.  Losing Chungh after losing Goossen to retirement is devastating for our O-line and you can spin it any way you like....but that's gonna hurt!   Yes I'm relieved we signed Bighill but if we lose both JSK and Loffler that's another large component of our defence gone.  


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 03:28:55 PM
keep telling you...Losing Loffler won't be a big loss...if anything we may be better off with a safety who can do more things...like coverage packages and cover more field...picks and pass break ups win more games than a big hit every now and then...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 03:29:22 PM
You ignore the big signings we have done and focus on the losses. Take a deep breath and log off today, we are the most stable team in the West.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 03:34:45 PM
Really hoping we get Walker, Daniels, or Posey. No interest in Ellingson from me. I would be disappointed.

Ellingson is the highest ranked free agent still available. He was 6th in total yardage and had the 3rd most attempts and 3 most receptions behind only Banks and Sinopoli. He's also only missed 1 game in 2 seasons and only a total of 2 games in the last 4 seasons.

Walker and Daniels are very good but have missed 17 and 11 games respectively over the last 2 seasons. Would also expect their ask to be much higher.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 12, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
You ignore the big signings we have done and focus on the losses. Take a deep breath and log off today, we are the most stable team in the West.

Stable sure....but is that really as high as we hope to aim for today?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 03:37:27 PM
keep telling you...Losing Loffler won't be a big loss...if anything we may be better off with a safety who can do more things...like coverage packages and cover more field...picks and pass break ups win more games than a big hit every now and then...

I love Loffler, he is great in run support and the underneath  stuff, but his departure is manageable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 03:43:05 PM
Stable sure....but is that really as high as we hope to aim for today?

No, but if you blow your stack on FA and have to fill out the roster you are not going to be taking the easy road.

Relatively  the Bombers are turning over a high normal amount. Not rebuilding the roster on the fly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 12, 2019, 03:43:40 PM
Safety is a position that is one of the easier ones to fill.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
No, but if you blow your stack on FA and have to fill out the roster you are not going to be taking the easy road.

Relatively  the Bombers are turning over a high normal amount. Not rebuilding the roster on the fly.

Potentially losing 10 starters and about 20 in total from the 2018 roster sounds like a re-build to me.

That might not be a bad thing depending on the outcomes of free agency. However at this exact moment, it's not the best thing either.

It will all come down to who we do lose and who we sign in free agency.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 12, 2019, 03:55:47 PM
Potentially losing 10 starters and about 20 in total from the 2018 roster sounds like a re-build to me.

That might not be a bad thing depending on the outcomes of free agency. However at this exact moment, it's not the best thing either.

It will all come down to who we do lose and who we sign in free agency.

We were a 11-7 team last year that couldn't score a TD in the biggest game of the year. I am not upset to be turning over 10 players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 03:56:58 PM
Solly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 12, 2019, 03:58:24 PM
We were a 11-7 team last year that couldn't score a TD in the biggest game of the year. I am not upset to be turning over 10 players.

What is normal turnover? 5? Meh, compared to most of the league we are pretty stable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 03:59:17 PM
We were a 10-8 team last year. I am not upset to be turning over 10 players.

Like I said it depends on what happens in free agency to start. Then what we do in scouting before TC.

I know if's don't mean much but if not for two brain cramps by Nichols we win two more games against the Riders. We were probably better than our record and a better team than the 2017 version that won more games.

I'm not concerned in the turnover until the chips are down and we see how we do.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
What is normal turnover? 5? Meh, compared to most of the league we are pretty stable.

Compared to other teams at the moment that's probably true. Other teams have higher numbers of free agents at the moment but they may be re-signing those players.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 04:15:23 PM
We were a 11-7 team last year that couldn't score a TD in the biggest game of the year. I am not upset to be turning over 10 players.

When the replacements couldn't beat out the incumbents it is concerning.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jets on February 12, 2019, 04:48:31 PM
http://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=51381.0

FYI - This is where we discuss other teams signings for FA


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on February 12, 2019, 04:49:51 PM
keep telling you...Losing Loffler won't be a big loss...if anything we may be better off with a safety who can do more things...like coverage packages and cover more field...picks and pass break ups win more games than a big hit every now and then...

We know you keep saying it, but that doesn't make it true, just like Jones "filling in just fine" isn't reassuring.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 04:54:03 PM
think what you want...safety is not a tough position...nor is it a key position in any defense..Loffler won't be missed


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 12, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
@DarrinBauming
The #Bombers hold both the 4th and 5th-overall picks in the upcoming #CFLDraft. Is Kyle Walters banking on finding a Canadian starter for 2019? He may be. #speculation


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2019, 08:27:34 PM
If he can he get Betts in the draft, he will start.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 12, 2019, 08:52:37 PM
@DarrinBauming
The #Bombers hold both the 4th and 5th-overall picks in the upcoming #CFLDraft. Is Kyle Walters banking on finding a Canadian starter for 2019? He may be. #speculation

serious question... how many draft picks manage to actually become a starter in the year they are drafted?  lack of long term exposure to the league requires me to ask...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 12, 2019, 09:04:02 PM
serious question... how many draft picks manage to actually become a starter in the year they are drafted?  lack of long term exposure to the league requires me to ask...
few....ok if you're long term planning or rebuilding.   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 12, 2019, 09:18:36 PM
serious question... how many draft picks manage to actually become a starter in the year they are drafted?  lack of long term exposure to the league requires me to ask...

The answer is Chungh.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 09:23:09 PM
serious question... how many draft picks manage to actually become a starter in the year they are drafted?  lack of long term exposure to the league requires me to ask...
It depends. Actually this is supposed to be a strong draft year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue72 on February 12, 2019, 09:26:06 PM
What is left for IMP receivers or are we going with the same as last year except for Dressler, If Adams goes down we are in trouble. With Demski resigned we have a good chance of loosing a couple of our Nat receivers next year for the lack of playing time.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 12, 2019, 09:27:41 PM
Walker..Mathews..Ryhmes..Hazleton..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 09:29:08 PM
Walker..Mathews..Ryhmes..Hazleton..
Toliver, Holley, Roosevelt


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:14:59 PM
serious question... how many draft picks manage to actually become a starter in the year they are drafted?  lack of long term exposure to the league requires me to ask...

Very few. When they do it's more a matter of teams in re-build mode and needing to take more of a chance rather than a 1st rounder actually beating out an incumbent.

In Winnipeg Chungh didn't really have to beat out a top performer IIRC. We needed him to start and do well so in he went.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 10:25:36 PM
What is left for IMP receivers or are we going with the same as last year except for Dressler, If Adams goes down we are in trouble. With Demski resigned we have a good chance of loosing a couple of our Nat receivers next year for the lack of playing time.
If we don't sign another Canadian OL then Peterman will likely start.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 10:27:13 PM
If we don't sign another Canadian OL then Peterman will likely start.

Why?  Gray should be able to start this year.  He's had time in the NFL, he's had time here last year.  Chungh started right out of the draft...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 12, 2019, 10:29:51 PM
Why?  Gray should be able to start this year.  He's had time in the NFL, he's had time here last year.  Chungh started right out of the draft...

Didn't sound like they expected him to start in 2019.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 12, 2019, 10:30:41 PM
Didn't sound like they expected him to start in 2019.
And it seems like they are set with 3 Imp OL if Taits saying it. Bad move imo


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 12, 2019, 10:36:07 PM
There is no way they are starting 3 Int Oline.  Don't know where that is coming from.  They love Foketi, and they loved when Bond was OG.  But the reality is, we have too many well paid Nat Oline to have them not play 3 of them.  And we have the draft coming.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blueandgoldguy on February 12, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
Yes, if we go with 3 imports on the line then for nationals we have...

running back
2 receivers
2 offensive linemen
?????
?????

I will assume the 2 remaining spots will be on defense.  Bombers missed out on Adeleke for safety which is tough.  Loffler might re-sign if other teams run out of money to meet his demands...or perhaps it will be a defensive back we had drafted.  That is nearly 100% a likely downgrade.  Maybe there is another free agent out there for safety...

I guess the other national will be on the d-line?  With Corney retired not sure who we will go with?  Thomas?  A draft pick starting right out of the gate?  Maybe a defensive back instead?  Conteh or someone else.

Right now, it is obvious the starting 7 nationals look to be a significant downgrade from last year and the year before.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 12, 2019, 10:45:46 PM
I don't know, just depends on who it turns out to be... but I'd have no problem with starting 3 national receivers, Woli, Demski, and platoon Petermann and Simonise... that way we can get Petermann and Simonise some quality playing time and experience which will benefit everyone...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on February 12, 2019, 10:46:40 PM
There is no way they are starting 3 Int Oline.  Don't know where that is coming from.  They love Foketi, and they loved when Bond was OG.  But the reality is, we have too many well paid Nat Oline to have them not play 3 of them.  And we have the draft coming.


It was Jeff Hamilton on Saturday who said that if they couldn't re-sign Chungh that they would probably start 3 Imports on the OL. Apparently they don't think that Gray is ready to start yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2019, 06:16:07 AM
Free agent signings Day 1:

BOMBERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH RECEIVER NIC DEMSKI ON TWO-YEAR DEAL

WINNIPEG, MB., February 12, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national receiver Nic Demski to a new two-year contract. Demski officially became a free agent on Tuesday, but will now remain with the Bombers through the 2020 season.

Demski (6-0, 208, University of Manitoba, May 14, 1993 in Winnipeg, Mb) enjoyed a break-out campaign in 2018, his first with his hometown Bombers after three years with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

Demski finished third in both rushing and receiving yards for the Bombers, pulling in 59 passes for 554 yards and three touchdowns, while rushing 34 times for 248 yards and one more score. He also returned 26 kicks for 374 yards.
In 57 career CFL games, Demski has 128 receptions for 1,279 yards, and 43 carries for 286 yards and one touchdown.

He was originally selected by the Roughriders in the first round, sixth overall, in the 2015 Canadian Football League Draft after a spectacular college career with the Bisons. He was the first Bisons player to be named to four CIS (now U Sports) all-star teams, as a CIS Second-Team All-Canadian slotback in 2013 and 2014 and as a kick-returner in 2011 and a First Team All-Canadian returner in 2012.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/bombers-agree-terms-receiver-nic-demski-two-year-deal/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/bombers-agree-terms-receiver-nic-demski-two-year-deal/)

DEMSKI STAYING HOME
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/demski-staying-home/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/demski-staying-home/)

BLUE BOMBERS SIGN DEFENSIVE END WILLIE JEFFERSON TO ONE-YEAR CONTRACT

WINNIPEG, MB., February 12, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with International defensive end Willie Jefferson. Jefferson joins the Bombers after spending the last three seasons in Saskatchewan, authoring all-star campaigns in both 2017 and 2018.

Jefferson
(6-6, 245, Stephen F. Austin, January 31, 1991 in Beaumont, TX) signed with the Saskatchewan Roughriders following a stint in the NFL. Jefferson was the Riders' Most Outstanding Player and Most Outstanding Defensive Player in 2018, starting every game and recording a career-high ten quarterback sacks along with two interceptions (both returned for touchdowns), two forced fumbles, 34 defensive tackles and six tackles for loss over the course of 18 games.

"Being able to add such a dynamic defensive player to what we already feel is a strong unit is certainly very exciting for us," said Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters. "Willie's skill set and athleticism allow him to make plays that not many players can make. We're thrilled to add him to our defensive line for 2019."

Jefferson has played 76 career CFL games over parts of five seasons with Edmonton and Saskatchewan, recording 127 defensive tackles, 31 sacks, two interceptions, six forced fumbles and two defensive touchdowns. Jefferson won a Grey Cup in 2015 with the Edmonton Eskimos.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/blue-bombers-sign-defensive-end-willie-jefferson-one-year-contract/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/blue-bombers-sign-defensive-end-willie-jefferson-one-year-contract/)

BOMBERS MAKE A SPLASH IN FREE AGENCY, SIGN WILLIE JEFFERSON
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/bombers-make-splash-free-agency-sign-willie-jefferson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/12/bombers-make-splash-free-agency-sign-willie-jefferson/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2019, 07:19:39 AM
Current Roster:
QBs                    4                 
Nationals           24       
Internationals     37 
                       -----
                        65

Quarterbacks      4   
Running backs  2N  1I   
Full backs        2N         
Receivers         4N  9I       
Oline               6N  4I               
Kicker                   1I               
Long snapper   1N     
Dline              1N  7I               
Linebackers     3N  4I     
Def backs        5N 11I



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
BOMBERS SIGN INTERNATIONAL DEFENSIVE BACK WINSTON ROSE

WINNIPEG, MB., February 13, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with international defensive back Winston Rose on a one-year contract.

Rose (6-0, 174, New Mexico State; November 29, 1993 in Inglewood, CA) will be entering his third season in the Canadian Football League. In 2017, he played four games with the Ottawa REDBLACKS and dressed for all 18 regular season games last season with the B.C. Lions, starting 15 at cornerback. Rose also started at cornerback for the Lions in the East Division Semi-Final.

Rose finished the 2018 season with 32 defensive tackles, adding eight more on special teams, and tied for the team lead with five interceptions. He chipped in with four pass knock-downs and two tackles for a loss.

Rose first came to the CFL with the Toronto Argonauts in 2016 and spent two months on their practice roster after stints in the National Football League with the Los Angeles Rams and Indianapolis Colts. He began his college career at Los Angeles Valley College before transferring to New Mexico State in 2013. He appeared in 23 games over three seasons with the Lobos, recording 94 total tackles, five interceptions, two tackles for a loss, eight pass knock-downs and a forced fumble.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/13/bombers-sign-international-defensive-back-winston-rose/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/13/bombers-sign-international-defensive-back-winston-rose/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 13, 2019, 10:34:35 PM
BOMBERS SIGN INTERNATIONAL DEFENSIVE BACK WINSTON ROSE

WINNIPEG, MB., February 13, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with international defensive back Winston Rose on a one-year contract.

Rose (6-0, 174, New Mexico State; November 29, 1993 in Inglewood, CA) will be entering his third season in the Canadian Football League. In 2017, he played four games with the Ottawa REDBLACKS and dressed for all 18 regular season games last season with the B.C. Lions, starting 15 at cornerback. Rose also started at cornerback for the Lions in the East Division Semi-Final.

Rose finished the 2018 season with 32 defensive tackles, adding eight more on special teams, and tied for the team lead with five interceptions. He chipped in with four pass knock-downs and two tackles for a loss.

Rose first came to the CFL with the Toronto Argonauts in 2016 and spent two months on their practice roster after stints in the National Football League with the Los Angeles Rams and Indianapolis Colts. He began his college career at Los Angeles Valley College before transferring to New Mexico State in 2013. He appeared in 23 games over three seasons with the Lobos, recording 94 total tackles, five interceptions, two tackles for a loss, eight pass knock-downs and a forced fumble.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/13/bombers-sign-international-defensive-back-winston-rose/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/13/bombers-sign-international-defensive-back-winston-rose/)
Rose looks like a solid piece....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 13, 2019, 10:40:21 PM
some un-announced signings

2019-02-13   WPG   CALHOUN, Kendall   OL   I   Cincinnati   Add To   Active Roster
2019-02-13   WPG   WILSON, Tim   WR   I   East Stroudsburg   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on February 13, 2019, 10:57:49 PM
Could Tim Wilson be our own Speedy B...??

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/16/tim-wilson-living-out-a-dream/amp/ (https://www.google.ca/amp/s/theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/16/tim-wilson-living-out-a-dream/amp/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 14, 2019, 07:19:43 AM
There is a report on twitter that the Bombers signed Malik Reaves. He's a 6'0" DB that spent time with the Chiefs and Steelers last pre-season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 14, 2019, 11:51:34 AM
Could Tim Wilson be our own Speedy B...??

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/16/tim-wilson-living-out-a-dream/amp/ (https://www.google.ca/amp/s/theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/16/tim-wilson-living-out-a-dream/amp/)

I don't trust guys who speed up their highlight videos.

So I will say no.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 14, 2019, 12:19:33 PM
I fon't trust guys who speed up their highlight videos.

So I will say no.
agreed


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on February 14, 2019, 01:46:09 PM
Yawnnnnnnn!
We signed one guy at a position we didn't need to upgrade.
We struck out on our most glaring need. A first string WR.
We have a non existent O line, missing two starters.  We lost a LB, A Safety and half the secondary.
Reluctantly signed a mediocre SB.
Good job Walters.

Sounds like it will be The Bombers and The Ti-Cats for the birth to the Grey Cup.
What a non exciting effort.  So between the Argos, Alouettes, amd the Bombers, we did the best!
Go Blue!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 14, 2019, 02:02:01 PM
Yawnnnnnnn!
We signed one guy at a position we didn't need to upgrade.
We struck out on our most glaring need. A first string WR.
We have a non existent O line, missing two starters.  We lost a LB, A Safety and half the secondary.
Reluctantly signed a mediocre SB.
Good job Walters.

Sounds like it will be The Bombers and The Ti-Cats for the birth to the Grey Cup.
What a non exciting effort.  So between the Argos, Alouettes, amd the Bombers, we did the best!
Go Blue!

Wow.. I really needed a chuckle this morning, thanks...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 14, 2019, 03:18:47 PM
Wow.. I really needed a chuckle this morning, thanks...

While the post is clearly an exaggeration, there are elements that ring true. Not very many people would have predicted our only major free agent acquisition would be DE. We haven't yet done much to address our generally agreed upon needs. We've lost, released or haven't signed a large contingent of key players, many of which were starters. Those include (or at least contributors): Randle, Chungh, Santos-Knox, Gooosen, Corney, Dressler, Fogg, LaFrance, Nevis, Okapalguo, Wild and others. Some of those players can be replaced with depth. We should have decent money to spend, and yet we didn't do much when the biggest impact makers were available.

Obviously, we're playing the long game and are possibly gambling on acquiring players via NFL cuts or other CFL cuts. I wouldn't completely laugh off other fans' concerns. On the surface, there is a lot of work to be done. Walters free agency day was a yawn, and not because we have everything figured out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 14, 2019, 03:32:10 PM
While the post is clearly an exaggeration, there are elements that ring true. Not very many people would have predicted our only major free agent acquisition would be DE. We haven't yet done much to address our generally agreed upon needs. We've lost, released or haven't signed a large contingent of key players, many of which were starters. Those include: Randle, Chungh, Santos-Knox, Gooosen, Corney, Dressler, Fogg, LaFrance, Nevis, Okapalguo, Wild and others. Some of those players can be replaced with depth. We should have decent money to spend, and yet we didn't do much when the biggest impact makers were available.

Obviously, we're playing the long game and are possibly gambling on acquiring players via NFL cuts or other CFL cuts. I wouldn't completely laugh off other fans' concerns. On the surface, there is a lot of work to be done. Walters free agency day was a yawn, and not because we have everything figured out.

While it has been re-hashed over and over, rosters change.  That is the dynamic of pro sports.  We "lost" Chungh, Loffler, Goossen and JSK.  The rest we moved on from of our own choice, for whatever reasons.  Part of the drafting/drecruiting/development 

Huge difference to most of the teams this year.  We did not lose an irreplaceable starter.  Sure, we downgraded on some, but upgraded on others, by addition or by development. 

Chungh/Goossen replaced by Couture/Gray.  Maybe not the timeline we had hoped for, would have been nice to get one more year to make the change, but Goossen and Chungh started with less development time than Couture and Gray have had.

Loffler. Nuff said.

JSK.  Wilson is a fraction of the cost, andwe don't know if he's going to be a huge drop in performance.  Again, he is at the same spot JSK was when he started last season, a year of CFL play under his belt, and the management must know what he is capable of, which is why we did not get in a bidding war. 

The rest of the team has another year under their belts, playing with mostly the same teamates, for the same coaches.  Continuity means that we are going to start the year ahead of the curve with a deeper playbook. 

I agree with GCn19, we have a darned good DC right now.  And its only going to get better.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 14, 2019, 03:38:04 PM
Sure the younger guys might do OK. Sure, we should have a bunch of SMS money to spend. Sure, things will change before the games start, but right now, I don't see much in the way of upgrades. I'd say DE is the only upgraded spot so far.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 14, 2019, 03:43:38 PM
While it has been re-hashed over and over, rosters change.  That is the dynamic of pro sports.  We "lost" Chungh, Loffler, Goossen and JSK.  The rest we moved on from of our own choice, for whatever reasons.  Part of the drafting/drecruiting/development 

Huge difference to most of the teams this year.  We did not lose an irreplaceable starter.  Sure, we downgraded on some, but upgraded on others, by addition or by development. 

Chungh/Goossen replaced by Couture/Gray.  Maybe not the timeline we had hoped for, would have been nice to get one more year to make the change, but Goossen and Chungh started with less development time than Couture and Gray have had.

Loffler. Nuff said.

JSK.  Wilson is a fraction of the cost, andwe don't know if he's going to be a huge drop in performance.  Again, he is at the same spot JSK was when he started last season, a year of CFL play under his belt, and the management must know what he is capable of, which is why we did not get in a bidding war. 

The rest of the team has another year under their belts, playing with mostly the same teamates, for the same coaches.  Continuity means that we are going to start the year ahead of the curve with a deeper playbook. 

I agree with GCn19, we have a darned good DC right now.  And its only going to get better.

Goossen retired, the other three moved on because they were paid more by other clubs.

Gray has had almost no development time with us. He's a blue-chip prospect and a questionable starter. Couture should be ready, I agree with you there.

What is "Nuff said" about Loffler mean? He was an all-star safety that we've currently replaced with Jeff Hecht.

Wilson is a fraction of the cost of Santos-Knox because Wilson has four career defensive tackles. Our defensive core has no proven tackle, Jake Thomas going to start and be an every down player? We've only got one corner, and he's new to the team with one year's worth of starters experience. I agree we do have some good to awesome pieces on defense.

It's not all doom and gloom, but you're fooling yourself if you think we're in a great place right now.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 14, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
I'd say Rose is an upgrade over Fogg...and when you look at re-signs and guys not re-signed..Augustine is an upgrade over Lafrance..and cheaper
Jefferson is an upgrade over Opo...and free-agency is only in day 3 so one is foolish to judge now.

I think we will still sign a receiver...so that in itself regardless of who will be an upgrade, and work on getting Chris Ackie in here... Also think Walters will get those valuable depth guys who can rotate in..a guy like Jesse Joseph in Mtl or Max Forde in B.C


 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 14, 2019, 03:57:14 PM
Goossen retired, the other three moved on because they were paid more by other clubs.

Gray has had almost no development time with us. He's a blue-chip prospect and a questionable starter. Couture should be ready, I agree with you there.

What is "Nuff said" about Loffler mean? He was an all-star safety that we've currently replaced with Jeff Hecht.

Wilson is a fraction of the cost of Santos-Knox because Wilson has four career defensive tackles. Our defensive core has no proven tackle, Jake Thomas going to start and be an every down player? We've only got one corner, and he's new to the team with one year's worth of starters experience. I agree we do have some good to awesome pieces on defense.

It's not all doom and gloom, but you're fooling yourself if you think we're in a great place right now.


How many defensive tackle did JSK get before he got his chance to start in 2017?....I'd say none?...that point is basically...pointless




Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 14, 2019, 04:00:46 PM
I'd say Rose is an upgrade over Fogg...and when you look at re-signs and guys not re-signed..Augustine is an upgrade over Lafrance..and cheaper
Jefferson is an upgrade over Opo...and free-agency is only in day 3 so one is foolish to judge now.

I think we will still sign a receiver...so that in itself regardless of who will be an upgrade, and work on getting Chris Ackie in here... Also think Walters will get those valuable depth guys who can rotate in..a guy like Jesse Joseph in Mtl or Max Forde in B.C


I'm not judging the final product. Just where we are today. The roster could end of being the strongest in the West. Right now though - there are plenty of holes and question marks. If Rose is replacing Fogg, then that's something, although currently, he happens to be the only legitimate corner on the roster with CFL experience. No problem with Augustine over LaFrance. I do question the decision to not be more active in Free Agency, we've obviously got money to spend -- and most of the top tier players who would easily plug and play into our current lineup are gone.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on February 14, 2019, 04:05:31 PM
Augustine is an upgrade over Lafrance..and cheaper
We had both last year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on February 14, 2019, 04:11:22 PM
Goossen retired, the other three moved on because they were paid more by other clubs.

Gray has had almost no development time with us. He's a blue-chip prospect and a questionable starter. Couture should be ready, I agree with you there.

What is "Nuff said" about Loffler mean? He was an all-star safety that we've currently replaced with Jeff Hecht.

Wilson is a fraction of the cost of Santos-Knox because Wilson has four career defensive tackles. Our defensive core has no proven tackle, Jake Thomas going to start and be an every down player? We've only got one corner, and he's new to the team with one year's worth of starters experience. I agree we do have some good to awesome pieces on defense.

It's not all doom and gloom, but you're fooling yourself if you think we're in a great place right now.


We are in a great place right now.  Its day 3 of FA.  our lineup is mostly intact, with some new players and some holes that we have plenty of time and SMS to fill.  Including what could be the best QB group in the league... 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 14, 2019, 04:16:23 PM
I'm not judging the final product. Just where we are today. The roster could end of being the strongest in the West. Right now though - there are plenty of holes and question marks. If Rose is replacing Fogg, then that's something, although currently, he happens to be the only legitimate corner on the roster with CFL experience. No problem with Augustine over LaFrance. I do question the decision to not be more active in Free Agency, we've obviously got money to spend -- and most of the top tier players who would easily plug and play into our current lineup are gone.

My main concern with the current lineup is the diminishing pool of Natl's available that can fill the spots vacated by Chungh, Goosen and Loffler.  With the mention of the possibility of a 3 N.I. O-line that indicates they will need to find 2 Natl. starters on the D-side, so I fail to see why Walters is not more active in the pursuit of the few F.A. Natl's that were available. 

I don't see any urgency to fill Import spots at this time with expensive names, TC is months away and they can continue to improve that category right up until the day camp opens.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on February 14, 2019, 04:17:48 PM
We had both last year.

Yeah but Lafrance took Augustines looks..and spot on roster a lot...and did squat at 110k a year


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Norm W on February 14, 2019, 04:20:36 PM
Not very many people would have predicted our only major free agent acquisition would be DE. We haven't yet done much to address our generally agreed upon needs. We've lost, released or haven't signed a large contingent of key players, many of which were starters.

Well I get to crow, at least a little bit for another day or two perhaps, still a few names to be had! But I did say/write that the Bombers were not going to make a big splash in the F/A pool. There standing pat, going with new found blood and draft picks.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on February 14, 2019, 04:25:30 PM
My main concern with the current lineup is the diminishing pool of Natl's available that can fill the spots vacated by Chungh, Goosen and Loffler.  With the mention of the possibility of a 3 N.I. O-line that indicates they will need to find 2 Natl. starters on the D-side, so I fail to see why Walters is not more active in the pursuit of the few F.A. Natl's that were available. 

I don't see any urgency to fill Import spots at this time with expensive names, TC is months away and they can continue to improve that category right up until the day camp opens.

It's impossible in the SMS era to keep 6 all star level NATs. That is why we built quality depth behind our starters and will continue to do so through the draft. You say we don't have adequate replacements for Chungh, Goosen, and Loffler and frankly I disagree. Walter made sure we had an extra 1st round pick this year because he saw this eventuality coming. IMHO, if Walters didn't have a plan for Chungh leaving he would have made sure he didn't leave. Gray is a very good OLineman.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on February 14, 2019, 04:29:44 PM
My thought is Walters lack of spending on day 1&2 of FA has to do with trying to position himself to hit a trifecta of FA signings...Jefferson, Ackie & Walker.


Now it currently doesn?t look too good for getting Walker right now, so we may have to settle for Roosevelt, Hazelton, Arcenaux or even Dressler...but I gotta feeling Walters will be all over Ackie when he?s ready to talk.

Add in Winston Rose and re-signing guys like Biggie, Jeffcoat, Alexander & Demski would look pretty darn good as we move past the FA period.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 15, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., February 15, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international offensive lineman Kendall Calhoun and international defensive back Malik Reaves.

Calhoun (6'7, 300, University of Cincinnati, December 27, 1994 in Paducah, KY.) played one season for the Cincinnati Bearcats before signing with the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent in 2018. Calhoun also spent time with the Washington Redskins.

Reaves (6'0, 200, Villanova University, December 15, 1995 in Panama City, FL.) played 43 games for the Villanova Wildcats, tallying 178 total tackles, four interceptions, 13 pass defenses and two forced fumbles. In 2018, Reaves signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as an undrafted free agent. He also spent time with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/15/bombers-add-two-roster-9/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/15/bombers-add-two-roster-9/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 15, 2019, 10:39:46 PM
Bombers position chart as of Feb 14 2018
created by @DarrinBauming and @ErnstMantler

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzYUo2_U8AARCzJ.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 15, 2019, 10:45:09 PM
Marshall Ferguson   @TSN_Marsh   Feb 14
What's left of #CFLFA.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzX4Y1vVYAAN9iI.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzX4Y14U8AAOUb7.jpg)

Marshall Ferguson   @TSN_Marsh  Feb 14
Updated - as accurately as possible - #CFLFA to Day 3.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzX4FtpU0AAo3pj.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 15, 2019, 11:05:39 PM
adiitonal signings

2019-02-15   WPG   MCCALISTER, Alex   DL   I   Florida   Add To   Active Roster
2019-02-15   WPG   LALAMA, DJ   LB   N   Manitoba   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 15, 2019, 11:08:37 PM
Good to see the Bison  kid coming home.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 16, 2019, 12:59:51 AM
Looks like the Bombers were going to send out the press release tomorrow but released it today as word got out that Lalama was signed.

BOMBERS ADD WINNIPEG-BORN LINEBACKER DJ LALAMA

WINNIPEG, MB., February 16, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed national Winnipeg-born linebacker DJ Lalama.
 
Lalama (6-0, 225, Manitoba, July 21, 1993 in Winnipeg, MB) was originally drafted by Edmonton 70th overall in the 2016 CFL Draft. Lalama spent the 2017 season with Montreal, playing in 15 games and recording ten special teams tackles.
 
During a four year career at the University of Manitoba, Lalama finished second all-time in school history in tackles with 184. In 2016, Lalama was awarded The Presidents' Trophy as the Defensive Player of the Year.
 
In his senior season, Lalama led U Sports in total tackles (72.5) and solo tackles (54), finishing the eight-game regular schedule with 16 more total tackles than any other player in Canada West. He also tied for the conference lead in forced fumbles (3) and ranked third in the country in pass breakups (7).

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/15/bombers-add-winnipeg-born-linebacker-dj-lalama/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/15/bombers-add-winnipeg-born-linebacker-dj-lalama/)

Russ Hobson   @russ_sportsguy
Former @umbisons DJ Lalama signing a one-year contract with #Bombers. Missed all of last season with Alouettes after shoulder surgery. He says he feels fortunate for the opportunity and calls it a childhood dream come true.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 16, 2019, 01:18:17 AM
waiting for aardvaark to sing his praises for this kid  ;D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 16, 2019, 01:27:20 AM
Newest Bombers defensive weapon swoops into town
By: Jeff Hamilton
Posted: 02/15/2019

According to sources, the Bombers will pay Jefferson around $210,000 for the the 2019 season, and it wasn't the highest bid. Interest also came from B.C., Montreal, Toronto and Hamilton. Jefferson was at the top of Winnipeg's free-agent wish list, but he also liked what he saw in the Bombers, particularly the locker-room culture. He's friends with offensive lineman Stanley Bryant and has a history with quarterback Matt Nichols, dating back to their time together in Edmonton, before Nichols was traded to Winnipeg midway through the 2015 season. Bryant and Nichols, along with a few other players, helped recruit Jefferson to the Blue and Gold.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/newest-bombers-defensive-weapon-swoops-into-town-505915322.html (https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/newest-bombers-defensive-weapon-swoops-into-town-505915322.html)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on February 16, 2019, 02:03:55 AM
waiting for aardvaark to sing his praises for this kid  ;D
Glad he's coming home. Decent depth, we'll see how it all shakes out. Wanted us to take him his draft year, but we went Renaud instead


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on February 16, 2019, 03:27:01 AM
Alex Mccallister is 6'6" 240lbs  with great testing numbers

I feel like we may have someone on roster that could help this kid get better.

https://youtu.be/nxuP6tRSFlc

https://youtu.be/ViNQQcvQfLU

Hoping this kid sticks around to learn from our guys.





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on February 16, 2019, 03:47:34 AM
With the Bison's he was always around the ball. If he's 100% he should be good on the teams.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on February 16, 2019, 03:54:07 AM
More Bisons are always a good idea!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 16, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
I thought I saw a release about signing an import receiver named Bailey?? He still isn't shown on the roster. Did that not happen?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 16, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
I thought I saw a release about signing an import receiver named Bailey?? He still isn't shown on the roster. Did that not happen?
The press release was Feb 5th. I'm sure he's still with the team and someone is just slow to add him to the roster page.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on February 16, 2019, 03:18:04 PM
Alex Mccallister is 6'6" 240lbs  with great testing numbers

I feel like we may have someone on roster that could help this kid get better.

https://youtu.be/nxuP6tRSFlc

https://youtu.be/ViNQQcvQfLU

Hoping this kid sticks around to learn from our guys.





Highlight films don't always show the entire picture. That said he seems to show speed and good tackling ability and aggressiveness.

He'll be an interesting player to watch during TC. Barring injury though he's fighting for a PR spot to develop. Not a bad looking young player though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on February 16, 2019, 05:43:33 PM
David Bailey?  Anyone remember him from the '70's? Lol!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 26, 2019, 12:26:27 PM
BOMBERS ADD THREE TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., February 19, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive end  Alex McCalister, international receiver Tim Wilson and international defensive back Joe Este.

McCalister (6'6, 240, University of Florida, October 17, 1993 in Fort Stewart, GA.) played three seasons for the Florida Gators, tallying 52 total tackles, 18.5 tackles for a loss, 12.5 sacks and two forced fumbles in 27 games. McCalister was selected in the 7th round of the 2016 NFL Draft by the Philadelphia Eagles and spent time on the Eagles practice squad during the 2017 season. He also spent time with the Washington Redskins.

Wilson (5'9, 170, East Stroudsburg University, February 16, 1994 in Wayne, PA.) played four seasons with the East Stroudsburg Warriors, finishing with 133 catches for 2,042 receiving yards and 16 touchdowns in 39 games played. In 2018, Wilson signed with the Philadelphia Eagles as an undrafted free agent.

Este (5'11, 200, University of Tennessee Martin, June 25, 1994 in Kenner, LA.) played two seasons for the Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks, tallying 129 total tackles, four interceptions, and both a forced fumble and fumble recovery in 23 games played. In 2018, Este signed with the Tennessee Titans as an undrafted free agent.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/19/bombers-add-three-roster-5/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/19/bombers-add-three-roster-5/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 26, 2019, 12:26:45 PM
BOMBERS ADD NATIONAL DEFENSIVE LINEMAN MAXX FORDE

WINNIPEG, MB., February 24, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed national defensive lineman Maxx Forde.

Forde (6'5, 262, University of Idaho, November 15, 1991 in Seattle, WA.) played two seasons with the B.C. Lions. In 22 games, Forde registered 10 total tackles, one sack and two forced fumbles. Forde spent his four-year college career with the Idaho Vandals, tallying 146 total tackles, 9.5 sacks and five fumble recoveries in 47 games. Forde was drafted by the B.C. Lions in the 7th round of the 2015 CFL Draft.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/24/bombers-add-national-defensive-lineman-maxx-forde/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/24/bombers-add-national-defensive-lineman-maxx-forde/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on February 26, 2019, 12:27:00 PM
Transactions Feb 25th:
2019-02-25   WPG    ROSE, Larry   RB   I   New Mexico State   Add To   Active Roster

BOMBERS ADD RUNNING BACK TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., February 26, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers  today announce the club has signed international running back Larry Rose III.

Rose (5'11, 195, New Mexico State, September 9, 1995 in Fairfield, TX.) spent his four-year college career with the New Mexico State Aggies, tallying 4,558 rushing yards and five touchdowns on 770 carries. In 2018, Rose signed with the Tennessee Titans as an undrafted free agent. He also spent time with the Los Angeles Rams.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/26/bombers-add-running-back-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/02/26/bombers-add-running-back-roster/)


Transactions March 1st:
2019-03-01   WPG   WARREN, Dale   LB   I   Tennessee Chattanooga   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 07, 2019, 11:09:19 PM
2019-03-07   
WPG   OPARAKU, Chinedu   LB   I   Fairmont State   Add To   Active Roster

I believe we have him last year 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY_4gzzX5Jg


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on March 08, 2019, 04:09:41 AM
I think we should sign more. Linebackers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on March 08, 2019, 04:49:08 AM
2019-03-07   
WPG   OPARAKU, Chinedu   LB   I   Fairmont State   Add To   Active Roster

I believe we have him last year 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY_4gzzX5Jg
I think so too


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 08, 2019, 06:29:12 AM
I think we should sign more. Linebackers.

Haha, ya take positions we aren't hurting at and add the most depth to them... uh...

However, we do still need to figure out a WILL.  So maybe there is method to the madness.  These guys all capable at WILL?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on March 08, 2019, 01:25:12 PM
Haha, ya take positions we aren't hurting at and add the most depth to them... uh...

However, we do still need to figure out a WILL.  So maybe there is method to the madness.  These guys all capable at WILL?

To be fair, we carried 3 IMP LBs last year. We are replacing 2 (unless its assumed Wilson is a lock)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on March 08, 2019, 01:40:05 PM
2019-03-07   
WPG   OPARAKU, Chinedu   LB   I   Fairmont State   Add To   Active Roster

I believe we have him last year 


Yup, signed April 18 and released May 25 (6th day of main camp).


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 08, 2019, 01:52:37 PM
I think we should sign more. Linebackers.


we have 10 intl receivers currently on the lineup and Adams is the only locked. 9 vying for the 2 starters spots.
the 4 natl receivers are mostly locked.

meanwhile, we have 5 candidates at WIL starter and a DI. 5 vying for 2 available spots.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on March 12, 2019, 09:27:53 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., March 12, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international linebackers Dale Warren and Chinedu Oparaku.

Warren
(6'0, 225, Chattanooga, October 8, 1995 in Covington, GA.) played four seasons for the Chattanooga Mocs, tallying 151 total tackles, 26 tackles for a loss, three forced fumbles and seven sacks in 43 games played. In his junior year, Warren tied the single season record in tackles for a loss.

Oparaku (6'2, 210, Fairmont State University, November 27, 1996 in Prince George's County, MD.) played three seasons with Fairmont State University, playing 17 games at linebacker and on special teams. In his senior year, Oparaku recorded 33 tackles, one sack and one blocked kick. Oparaku also recorded three sacks in the 2017 National Bowl. In 2018, Oparaku spent time with the Blue Bombers during training camp.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/03/12/bombers-add-two-roster-10/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/03/12/bombers-add-two-roster-10/)

Current Roster:
QBs                    4               
Nationals           26       
Internationals   45 
                       -----
                         75

Quarterbacks      4   
Running backs  2N  2I   
Full backs        2N         
Receivers         4N  10I       
Oline               6N  5I               
Kicker                   1I               
Long snapper   1N     
Dline              2N  8I               
Linebackers     4N  6I     
Def backs        5N 13I


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on March 13, 2019, 12:38:48 AM
This is so anti climatic.
Good we need another linebacker
Is this a joke,?

It's just  not right.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on March 13, 2019, 12:44:04 AM
This is so anti climatic.
Good we need another linebacker
Is this a joke,?

It's just  not right.
Who would you sign?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on March 13, 2019, 02:08:51 PM
This is so anti climatic.
Good we need another linebacker
Is this a joke,?

It's just  not right.

And taking a look at players during camp is bad why? 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 13, 2019, 02:37:19 PM
And taking a look at players during camp is bad why? 

It's not. We have opportunities at LB, DT, WR and returner mostly. I think the secondary is pretty solid with the veterans + Rose.

Barring injury several candidates are more realistically here to man the PR roster as developmental players. Can't see a rookie DE beating out anybody for example.

I think we have 75 players currently with 3 or 4 as non counters. It won't be long before we want to add new finds and need to bump a few rookies off the roster. Inevitably some players don't make it to the main TC. Some decide to not report / retire or ask for release for an NFL opportunity.

The 75 player limit ( excluding the non counters ) is April 30  We usually add another 6 -8 players from our open tryout camps. I'd expect some additions / deletions among the DB and receiver groups as new players are found. That's usually the biggest pool of talent at the tryouts.

We may yet sign some CFL veterans which will change the focus at certain positions ( Ackie or Joseph ) for example.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on March 13, 2019, 02:42:22 PM
Are returning 2018 DP's non counters still? 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 13, 2019, 02:44:26 PM
Are returning 2018 DP's non counters still? 

The 2 OL and Firlotte I believe are non counters. In theory that leaves us with 72 counters on the roster today.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on March 14, 2019, 02:24:36 AM
As I have previously bitched, we missed the boat on an impact WR.  Maybe with Montreal in trouble we can grab Posey.

Of course we can pick up an insanely talented rookie out of college.  Same as one of us winning some lottery.  This group of lost souls in. Management haven't found one in five years, so.....sure one will pop up in TC. Lol!

At best we have a window of opportunity with Bighill here.  But the team needs complimentary pieces....and Walters hasn't been even meicre with his signings.

As The bottom line.  I would, go get a prime time WR.  Do what it takes.  Give Nichols,someone who can get you 5 jump ball TDs. Plus at least another five.  I don't care about the salary cap penalty.  Loss of a  non starting Canadian rookie vs. A Grey Cup or two.

Is that even a question!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 14, 2019, 02:44:47 PM
As I have previously bitched, we missed the boat on an impact WR.  Maybe with Montreal in trouble we can grab Posey.

Of course we can pick up an insanely talented rookie out of college.  Same as one of us winning some lottery.  This group of lost souls in. Management haven't found one in five years, so.....sure one will pop up in TC. Lol!

At best we have a window of opportunity with Bighill here.  But the team needs complimentary pieces....and Walters hasn't been even meicre with his signings.

As The bottom line.  I would, go get a prime time WR.  Do what it takes.  Give Nichols,someone who can get you 5 jump ball TDs. Plus at least another five.  I don't care about the salary cap penalty.  Loss of a  non starting Canadian rookie vs. A Grey Cup or two.

Is that even a question!

The question is where, how do you expect that to be done? It's easy to say but let's get serious.

No team is going to trade away a top receiver without the Bombers giving up some serious player talent.

Make a suggestion you think has a reasonable chance of success.

EDIT: If we really wanted Posey we could have made him a better offer in free agency. I'm not concerned we didn't win that bidding war.  Montreal is not winning the battle of making smart decisions.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 14, 2019, 04:52:45 PM
As I have previously bitched, we missed the boat on an impact WR.  Maybe with Montreal in trouble we can grab Posey.

Of course we can pick up an insanely talented rookie out of college.  Same as one of us winning some lottery.  This group of lost souls in. Management haven't found one in five years, so.....sure one will pop up in TC. Lol!

At best we have a window of opportunity with Bighill here.  But the team needs complimentary pieces....and Walters hasn't been even meicre with his signings.

As The bottom line.  I would, go get a prime time WR.  Do what it takes.  Give Nichols,someone who can get you 5 jump ball TDs. Plus at least another five.  I don't care about the salary cap penalty.  Loss of a  non starting Canadian rookie vs. A Grey Cup or two.

Is that even a question!

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 15, 2019, 07:38:42 AM
2 words.... MOVE ON

I didn't want to clutter up the thread... but I need to support DM83's comment as 100% bang on.  Everything he said is right.  And it's not just us.  I guarantee you that there will some surprise signing at WR between now and labor day (actually probably by week 1).  Who knows what that will be, but rest assured it's coming.

KW & Canadian Mafia know darn well why we lost the WF and weren't in the GC, and they will not, I repeat NOT, make the same mistake in '19.

Look at past history and progression:
1. '14-'15: after a good start, Willy starts losing us games big time, '15-'16 get a solid replacement.
2. '15 lost a lot of games because of Harralajhu (sp, whatever).  Priority #1 in '16: sign Medlock
3. '16: explosive plays given up by our DBs were killing us, '17-'18 sign & develop a more solid (but not perfect) set of guys
4. '17: Hurl at MLB is killing us in nearly every game: '18 sign a "surprise" Bighill, problem solved (guarantee you talks were going on for weeks/months beforehand, but we'll never know the truth)
5. '17: lack of top-3 in CFL WR makes life difficult: priority #1 in FA in '18: A.Bowman.  Was a bust, but intentions were good.
6. '18: lost WF because no Rogers and amazing D couldn't pull off a miracle with turnovers.  Period.  Can't fix magic, lucky "turnovers" (see: '18 Riders), but you can fix WR.

'19 the only priority is WR.  Period.  That is the final piece.  Adams is great but you need 2-3 top-10 in CFL WRs (see: CGY).  Not 1.

Let's sum points #1-6.  QB: check.  Kicker: check.  DBs: check (mostly).  MLB: check.  Oh ya, bonus, best RB and NAT to boot: check.  Let's not forget OL, which the Mafia had fixed by '15: check.  The only thing left, ONLY THING, is WR.

And you think the Canadian Mafia takes what they've been building over 5+ years, consistently improving every single year (two steps forward, one step back, due to unavoidable churn), and you think they don't address the ONLY thing keeping us out of the GC?

Pfffffffffffffttttt.  Phhhhhhhhhwwwwwww.

Big WR surprise coming by labor day (or sooner).  I'll bet my season's allotment of Shawarma Khan and Danny's Whole Hog on it.  If you still don't believe me, consider we are probably in the best SMS position of any Western team... why?  Because I'm right, and the money is sitting there for the sole purpose of fixing this one, little, thing.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on March 15, 2019, 12:21:37 PM
Just a bunch of wild guesses being passed off as guarantees.

There's no guarantee of a 'surprise' signing. If it does happen, it will be a surprise, not a guarantee.

There's no guarantee that we were in talks with Bighill at any time before he made it known that he was available. That one was good luck not good planning.

Same can be said for getting Nichols. He'd lost his job in Edmonton. He was the only backup QB available when Willy got hurt again. He wasn't brought in to save the team, he was brought in to be Willy's backup. It was still Willy's team the next year until the losing become so bad that we were forced to make a change.

'19 has several priorities. We've downgraded at OL and receiver on offence and at DT, LB and DB on defence. We've upgraded at DE, which wasn't a position of weakness in the first place. We need to find replacements for all the guys we lost and no, I don't just mean putting their backups, cuz we know their names, in and hoping for the best.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on March 15, 2019, 01:06:17 PM
WR is not the only priority, mind you it?s a fairly big one and no denying we need an upgraded receiving corps, no doubt or argument there. But lost in all of this is the hit our O line took with Goose and chungh departures.

Yes, we desparately need a bonafide #1 WR but there are some serious question marks at guard and centre right now too


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 01:25:06 PM
Just a bunch of wild guesses being passed off as guarantees.

There's no guarantee of a 'surprise' signing. If it does happen, it will be a surprise, not a guarantee.

There's no guarantee that we were in talks with Bighill at any time before he made it known that he was available. That one was good luck not good planning.

Same can be said for getting Nichols. He'd lost his job in Edmonton. He was the only backup QB available when Willy got hurt again. He wasn't brought in to save the team, he was brought in to be Willy's backup. It was still Willy's team the next year until the losing become so bad that we were forced to make a change.

'19 has several priorities. We've downgraded at OL and receiver on offence and at DT, LB and DB on defence. We've upgraded at DE, which wasn't a position of weakness in the first place. We need to find replacements for all the guys we lost and no, I don't just mean putting their backups, cuz we know their names, in and hoping for the best.

The jury is still out on if we are down graded at LB and DB. I actually think we got better at DB...Younger and more athletic and both Sayles and Alexander should be better than last year, Rose is better than Fogg and Randle's leadership will be missed, but pretty sure the incumbents can make up for that loss, and we have both Fenner and Gaitor 100 percent healthy right outta the gate too with Humes a possibility with a part of season in the system and some game reps...albeit it limited. Loffler...will not be missed and we got more athletic in the back now regardless who plays the safety..big hits once in a while don't win games..pick's and blanket coverage on deep balls do tho

LB..if Gaitor resumes SAM then him and Biggie are back and we shall see if Wilson can continue his good play from the play-offs, or a new guy jumps out...regardless at worst we have an athletic guy who has been here several seasons to start the season..and isn't a raw rookie...so not too worried.

OL definitely looks to be weakened from last year, can't argue that but again...we have luxury of a couple guys who have been here 3 years with game experience to step in, and a top pick in Gray who I think has a higher ceiling than either of Chungh or Goosen so way may start out season ot as strong, but they should gel into a great group and most likely top 2-3 in league again

DT again is a wait and see..Nevis could be back...may not be..but Bryant showed very well and is returning, and maybe one of the new recruits is this year's Poop and dominates from the get go...but keeps it sustained


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 15, 2019, 02:29:50 PM
I like the way the secondary is shaping up. Regardless of whether Fenner or Gaitor moves from SAM we also added Rose. While I'm a bit reluctant about Jones as safety I think overall our secondary is not going to be a concern.

Also liked Humes in his one game showing.

DL is solid with only 1 DT not accounted for at the moment. Adding Jefferson is huge. Need some more Canadian depth possibly via the draft or later signings among free agents.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 02:46:05 PM
we realy don't need any Canadian depth at all along the D-line, and Forde and Thomas is enough...especially if we don't need to start 2 Nationals on defense...especially if we see an Ackie signing here, that would basically relegate I bet one of Thomas and Forde to not even make the 44 man roster..and that would to me be a perfect scenario as we could roster a more skilled position player in their place


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 15, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
we realy don't need any Canadian depth at all along the D-line, and Forde and Thomas is enough...especially if we don't need to start 2 Nationals on defense...especially if we see an Ackie signing here, that would basically relegate I bet one of Thomas and Forde to not even make the 44 man roster..and that would to me be a perfect scenario as we could roster a more skilled position player in their place

I'm not sure how well Forde may perform. He may be a better option than Thomas. The point about depth was really about creating more / better competition during TC. There is no injury depth at the moment either.  It's been mentioned that Joseph would be an upgrade.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 03:13:36 PM
if Forde is healthy, he should give us the same, if not better production than Thomas, as in his Draft year I thought he was the best d-line prospect out there. Dependent on the ratio too, and how we want to rotate a Canadian D-lineman may not even really technically be required...certainly not 2 on the game day roster.





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on March 15, 2019, 03:34:17 PM
Not sure about Forde yet, but Roh was a nice surprise coming from BC... maybe he will be too?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on March 15, 2019, 03:40:06 PM
The jury is still out on if we are down graded at LB and DB. I actually think we got better at DB...Younger and more athletic and both Sayles and Alexander should be better than last year, Rose is better than Fogg and Randle's leadership will be missed, but pretty sure the incumbents can make up for that loss, and we have both Fenner and Gaitor 100 percent healthy right outta the gate too with Humes a possibility with a part of season in the system and some game reps...albeit it limited. Loffler...will not be missed and we got more athletic in the back now regardless who plays the safety..big hits once in a while don't win games..pick's and blanket coverage on deep balls do tho

LB..if Gaitor resumes SAM then him and Biggie are back and we shall see if Wilson can continue his good play from the play-offs, or a new guy jumps out...regardless at worst we have an athletic guy who has been here several seasons to start the season..and isn't a raw rookie...so not too worried.

OL definitely looks to be weakened from last year, can't argue that but again...we have luxury of a couple guys who have been here 3 years with game experience to step in, and a top pick in Gray who I think has a higher ceiling than either of Chungh or Goosen so way may start out season ot as strong, but they should gel into a great group and most likely top 2-3 in league again

DT again is a wait and see..Nevis could be back...may not be..but Bryant showed very well and is returning, and maybe one of the new recruits is this year's Poop and dominates from the get go...but keeps it sustained
DB - No... last years guys aren't upgrades over last year's guys. I agree that Rose > Fogg at DB, but we'll miss Fogg's returns. None of last year's guys are > than Randle. We disagree on Loffler... none of the NI replacements are > than Loffler, but we could end up with a better safety if we go import.

LB - JSK > anyone we have right now so it's no surprise that we're bringing in a bunch of LB's.

OL - Being here 3 years means they know the system and we know their names. It doesn't mean that they are as good as the guys they are replacing. If they were, they would have replaced those guys sometime over the last 3 years.

DT - Nevis and Johnson are gone. Looks to me like we're going NI at one of the DT's to make up for losing Loffler's passport.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on March 15, 2019, 03:43:06 PM
DB - No... last years guys aren't upgrades over last year's guys. I agree that Rose > Fogg at DB, but we'll miss Fogg's returns. None of last year's guys are > than Randle. We disagree on Loffler... none of the NI replacements are > than Loffler, but we could end up with a better safety if we go import.

LB - JSK > anyone we have right now so it's no surprise that we're bringing in a bunch of LB's.

OL - Being here 3 years means they know the system and we know their names. It doesn't mean that they are as good as the guys they are replacing. If they were, they would have replaced those guys sometime over the last 3 years.

DT - Nevis and Johnson are gone. Looks to me like we're going NI at one of the DT's to make up for losing Loffler's passport.

Johnson was gone last season because Bryant beat him out. Not sure why you would even bring him up? He's no loss. Fogg's returns? That is an area he struggled with last year plus it is completely irrelevant to defence. Throwing crap agains the wall to see what sticks TBurg?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 03:56:44 PM
Randle good...but declining and value over worth ow wasn't there...Alexander in year 3..Sayles in yr 2 and Rose is better than last year's Alexander..Sayles and Fogg...total upgrade and if at worse the same. Who is manning wide side corner spot is still in question, but it isn't a tough spot to fill, and Loffler is not a big loss and coaching said he was on verge of being supplanted anyway if not for injury to Jones...Both bring different things, but overall Jones brings more.

We don't need to replace Lofflers NI starting spot either with a DT...most likely we start only 1 National on defense again anyway, so that is covered, and Bryant was better than Poop...and will be even better this year, so that argument is moot. I still think Nevis re-ups here again and based on what we saw with Wilson in for JSK..we never missed a beat..totally shut down Sask in play-offs (which doesn't say much) but also kept CGY basically in check too..Our strong d-line and Biggie made whoever was beside him at WILL flourish, as was seen and will be seen again.

3 years being here is far more beneficial than being totally new..and sure they had guys ahead of them, but that doesn't mean they are not starter worthy..good players are kept and bide their time for their chance..time will tell, but I wouldn't be too concerned that our o-line will be swiss cheese now.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 15, 2019, 04:40:47 PM
Randle good...but declining and value over worth ow wasn't there...Alexander in year 3..Sayles in yr 2 and Rose is better than last year's Alexander..Sayles and Fogg...total upgrade and if at worse the same. Who is manning wide side corner spot is still in question, but it isn't a tough spot to fill, and Loffler is not a big loss and coaching said he was on verge of being supplanted anyway if not for injury to Jones...Both bring different things, but overall Jones brings more.

We don't need to replace Lofflers NI starting spot either with a DT...most likely we start only 1 National on defense again anyway, so that is covered, and Bryant was better than Poop...and will be even better this year, so that argument is moot. I still think Nevis re-ups here again and based on what we saw with Wilson in for JSK..we never missed a beat..totally shut down Sask in play-offs (which doesn't say much) but also kept CGY basically in check too..Our strong d-line and Biggie made whoever was beside him at WILL flourish, as was seen and will be seen again.

3 years being here is far more beneficial than being totally new..and sure they had guys ahead of them, but that doesn't mean they are not starter worthy..good players are kept and bide their time for their chance..time will tell, but I wouldn't be too concerned that our o-line will be swiss cheese now.



OL: Couture sure he's been here. Foketi has been here but unless we're starting 3 imports that's almost irrelevant.

Gray and Spooner weren't even here for all of 2018. The 2 2018 draft choices weren't here past TC.

So saying they've been here 3 years for them is an overstatement.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 15, 2019, 04:43:45 PM
if Forde is healthy, he should give us the same, if not better production than Thomas, as in his Draft year I thought he was the best d-line prospect out there. Dependent on the ratio too, and how we want to rotate a Canadian D-lineman may not even really technically be required...certainly not 2 on the game day roster.





I think we'll have 2 Canadian DL on the AR 44. Who they are may change if we sign a current free agent or we draft one shortly. We've had 2 for several previous seasons with Corney and Thomas. So I don't see that concept changing. Names on back of jerseys possibly.

EDIT: Betts seems to really have shown well at the combines and had high praise before. He sounds like he'd be a good choice but at the moment don't think he'll be available by the time we pick.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on March 15, 2019, 05:51:30 PM
I think we'll have 2 Canadian DL on the AR 44. Who they are may change if we sign a current free agent or we draft one shortly. We've had 2 for several previous seasons with Corney and Thomas. So I don't see that concept changing. Names on back of jerseys possibly.

EDIT: Betts seems to really have shown well at the combines and had high praise before. He sounds like he'd be a good choice but at the moment don't think he'll be available by the time we pick.

Betts is almost certainly NFL bound.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 05:53:23 PM
OL: Couture sure he's been here. Foketi has been here but unless we're starting 3 imports that's almost irrelevant.

Gray and Spooner weren't even here for all of 2018. The 2 2018 draft choices weren't here past TC.

So saying they've been here 3 years for them is an overstatement.
Spooner is in Edmonton so not even in this convo..Speller has been around 2 years and surpassed Spooner obviously...And if we start 2 nationals on defense (or 3 receivers)  then Foketti is totally relevant and so yeah..we have 4 o=lineman coming to compete for 2 possible spots with between 4 and 1 yr (limited 1 year ) experience...and first and foremost familiarity with our system..schemes and most importantly other lineman...huge advantage versus trying to fill 2 spots with 2 total new bodies..agree to disagree all you want but the O-line situation isn't as dire as may like to bemoan...and if the staff figured it was...they would have definitely grabbed or went after a free agent lineman.






Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 05:54:51 PM
Betts is almost certainly NFL bound.
He may get a TC or mini camp look....but highly doubt he will stick there this yr...not even on a PR...to small to play as a end there, and not skilled enough to be an outside guy on a 3-4 system.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 15, 2019, 06:02:30 PM
Spooner is in Edmonton so not even in this convo..Speller has been around 2 years and surpassed Spooner obviously...And if we start 2 nationals on defense (or 3 receivers)  then Foketti is totally relevant and so yeah..we have 4 o=lineman coming to compete for 2 possible spots with between 4 and 1 yr (limited 1 year ) experience...and first and foremost familiarity with our system..schemes and most importantly other lineman...huge advantage versus trying to fill 2 spots with 2 total new bodies..agree to disagree all you want but the O-line situation isn't as dire as may like to bemoan...and if the staff figured it was...they would have definitely grabbed or went after a free agent lineman.






I meant Speller and IIRC he was signed in 2018 not 2017.  We don't currently have 2 Canadians to start on defense. Starting 3 Canadian receivers is probably not the best plan. I'm not sure we can give Speller credit for passing Spooner or just accepting the fact that Spooner was a bust. Was Spooner that bad that he was even lower than our 2018 low round draft picks? YIKES.

So yes Foketi is almost irrelevant beyond an injury replacement for Bryant or Hardrick. Staring 3 import OL better not be in the cards. That's the definition of failure. We're not even sure if he's a good OG.

OL take the longest adjustment to the CFL as starters. So yes it may very well be as much of a problem as some of us feel. Speller wasn't getting many 1st or 2nd team reps last year. Neither was Gray.

If just being on the roster was as important as you want / need to make out we wouldn't have any issues.

Nichols is not the most agile QB so if there is the slightest downturn from our OL we're going to have serious issues.

We're 1 injury to needing to activate a 2018 or 2019 draft choice with no experience at all.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on March 15, 2019, 06:09:46 PM
we already have a safety as a starter..and has been said by staff that It WILL be as such this season...so where do you see no starters?...And dont yammer on about Loffler being gone is the reason...we will not even miss him...yeesh

3 receivers on offence is totally possible...have to see if Simonese can run with the Field side wideout spot..and if he can provide deep threat...snag 500-600 yards worth of balls and allow us an Import O-lineman, or luxury of reconfiguring our DI spots then even better..Foketti could even be the 6th o-lineman then and come in anytime

You can't base the season based on now anyway..lots can happen roster wise before camp...but as it stands now...we are not that bad off as the chicken little's like to think..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 15, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
we already have a safety as a starter..and has been said by staff that It WILL be as such this season...so where do you see no starters?...And dont yammer on about Loffler being gone is the reason...we will not even miss him...yeesh

3 receivers on offence is totally possible...have to see if Simonese can run with the Field side wideout spot..and if he can provide deep threat...snag 500-600 yards worth of balls and allow us an Import O-lineman, or luxury of reconfiguring our DI spots then even better..Foketti could even be the 6th o-lineman then and come in anytime

You can't base the season based on now anyway..lots can happen roster wise before camp...but as it stands now...we are not that bad off as the chicken little's like to think..

Medlock, Roh, a DB and a LB are the usual DI's. We couldn't even get a dedicated returner on the roster for most of the season. Now you're suggesting Foketi as a DI choice? Even if he was he's still probably only a replacement for our 2 OT's. Anything past that is another ratio issue.

So I'll be stunned if Foketi is the 6 OL.

3 Canadian receivers is mathematically possible. So is 4 Canadian OL or starting a Canadian LB.. Doesn't mean it's a wise decision.

We can be optimistic about our Canadian receivers developing and getting more reps. Having to start 3 seems like a big risk and a failure of the scouts to find a top import receiver. Combine that with a lesser OL and that may be a serious problem.

We can only discuss where we are today. Nobody is saying positive things can't happen. OTOH it's not unreasonable to question losing 9 starters including 3 Canadian starters of which 2 were top CFL OL.

It's not only who starts but the cumulative depth taking a hit.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 15, 2019, 09:35:07 PM
I think, the 6th OL is supposed to be your backup Center, unless of course any of your starter can play there.

Assuming our starters are Bryant / Neufeld / Couture / Gray / Hardrick. If Couture goes down...
- you're not moving anyone of the tackles on the centre
- I doubt Gray would  be moved there either
- Neufeld is the likely candidate although I'm not sure if he is good snapping the ball to the QB
- So most likely Speller will be the 6th OL.

And even if we start 3 Int - Bryant, Hardrick and Foketi (@RG)... It's still make more sense to make Speller the 6th OL instead of Gray 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on March 16, 2019, 02:17:53 AM
There a couple of veteran centre's out there right now. If the bombers are worried about Canadian depth on the OL they can pickup one of them. Would a nice insurance policy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on March 16, 2019, 03:14:59 AM
Who?s out there that?s worth picking up??


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 16, 2019, 01:38:32 PM
Who?s out there that?s worth picking up??

For the right price J. St John might be worth a look. He has some experience which is more than Speller or our 2 2018 draft choices.

The fact he hasn't re-signed might suggest he's asking more than any team wants to pay.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on March 16, 2019, 02:11:08 PM
For the right price J. St John might be worth a look. He has some experience which is more than Speller or our 2 2018 draft choices.

The fact he hasn't re-signed might suggest he's asking more than any team wants to pay.

Or that he washed out... first rounders can fail...

There a couple of veteran centre's out there right now. If the bombers are worried about Canadian depth on the OL they can pickup one of them. Would a nice insurance policy.

One looks like he just dropped off the list...


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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on March 16, 2019, 02:26:11 PM
Johnson was gone last season because Bryant beat him out. Not sure why you would even bring him up? He's no loss. Fogg's returns? That is an area he struggled with last year plus it is completely irrelevant to defence. Throwing crap agains the wall to see what sticks TBurg?
I bring Johnson up for 2 reasons. Even tho he wasn't a starter by the end of the year, he was still good depth and letting 2 import DT's go means that were more likely to got NI at a DT spot.

Fogg did more than just play DB. His returns are part of what he brought to the table.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on March 16, 2019, 02:52:52 PM
WPG Blue Bombers
@Wpg_BlueBombers
?
1m
The team has re-signed international defensive tackle Drake Nevis to a one-year contract.

There goes my theory that we're going NI at DT.  :D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 16, 2019, 04:16:46 PM
WPG Blue Bombers
@Wpg_BlueBombers
?
1m
The team has re-signed international defensive tackle Drake Nevis to a one-year contract.

There goes my theory that we're going NI at DT.  :D


Thank God!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on March 16, 2019, 04:53:16 PM
WPG Blue Bombers
@Wpg_BlueBombers
?
1m
The team has re-signed international defensive tackle Drake Nevis to a one-year contract.

There goes my theory that we're going NI at DT.  :D


The theory of Nat at DT was based on 7 Nat starters... which just went out the window, so you weren't really wrong...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 16, 2019, 06:40:12 PM
The theory of Nat at DT was based on 7 Nat starters... which just went out the window, so you weren't really wrong...

I don't think a NI DT starting was really ever close to a 1st choice.

If we do add 2 import starters I wonder where we most likely see them? In theory adding 2 doesn't necessarily mean they are full time starters. They could be non starting, non DI players.

For example an import RB or OL that could come in without having to pull another import.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 18, 2019, 11:37:02 PM
2019-03-18   WPG   WALKER, Kenny   WR   I   UCLA   Add To   Active Roster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZYPAsaN9tM


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 19, 2019, 05:44:53 AM
2019-03-18   WPG   WALKER, Kenny   WR   I   UCLA   Add To   Active Roster

Hmm, this guy is interesting.  Dropped by AAF Hotshots before week 1.  5'9"/188 isn't going to be the 50/50 ladder-climb ball guy we so desperately need, but he sure is a speedster.  Routes look good and his cuts are impressive.

Maybe a Dress/Flanders replacement?  Flanders but with better hands?  But as Chevelle is so fond of saying, we don't throw those 60yd bombs that this guy really would excel at.  But I bet he can do returns...

Boy I wish we could find the next Stegall... maybe this guy is it?  Who knows.  At 24 he has tons of time... but I'm not getting my hopes up.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on March 19, 2019, 11:37:25 AM
Hmm, this guy is interesting.  Dropped by AAF Hotshots before week 1.  5'9"/188 isn't going to be the 50/50 ladder-climb ball guy we so desperately need, but he sure is a speedster.  Routes look good and his cuts are impressive.

Maybe a Dress/Flanders replacement?  Flanders but with better hands?  But as Chevelle is so fond of saying, we don't throw those 60yd bombs that this guy really would excel at.  But I bet he can do returns...

Boy I wish we could find the next Stegall... maybe this guy is it?  Who knows.  At 24 he has tons of time... but I'm not getting my hopes up.


I'll be happy if we find the next Weston Dressler.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on March 19, 2019, 11:53:52 AM
He's an AAF cut, i doubt he's either!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on March 19, 2019, 12:34:26 PM
He's an AAF cut, i doubt he's either!!
I'm currently in Cameroon, but I can smell the BS from here.

AAF cut doesn't equal bad player. No management is perfect. Good players get cut. Bad players don't sometimes. It happens


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on March 19, 2019, 11:13:50 PM
BOMBERS ADD RECEIVER TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., March 19, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international wide receiver Kenneth Walker.

Walker (5'9, 188, UCLA, April 1, 1994 in Brookside, CA.) played four seasons for the UCLA Bruins, tallying 45 receptions for 810 receiving yards and seven touchdowns in 47 games played. In 2017, Walker signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars as an undrafted free agent. Walker was added to the Stampeders practice roster in October of 2017, and spent training camp with them in 2018.  Walker was also a track star at UCLA.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/03/19/bombers-add-receiver-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/03/19/bombers-add-receiver-roster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on March 20, 2019, 12:57:56 AM
AAF cut doesn't equal bad player. No management is perfect. Good players get cut. Bad players don't sometimes. It happens

I agree... Like I said before, cut from AAF, then come to CFL, could be a good player.  Cut from CFL then cut from AAF?  Then you're done.  ;)

One of these years we gotta strike gold with a WR... it's just gotta happen, right?  Right??  :-[ :( :-\


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on March 20, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
I agree... Like I said before, cut from AAF, then come to CFL, could be a good player.  Cut from CFL then cut from AAF?  Then you're done.  ;)

One of these years we gotta strike gold with a WR... it's just gotta happen, right?  Right??  :-[ :( :-\


There are a lot of very good players in the CFL that were cut by other teams before rising to stardom.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Leroy on March 21, 2019, 02:56:02 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NovaFbRecruit/status/1108423312508706816



Nova FB Recruiting

@NovaFbRecruit

Congrats to former

@NovaFootball

standout DB

@TakeOffReaves

on signing with the

@Wpg_BlueBombers

of the CFL! #TapTheRock #CatsInThePros



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on March 21, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NovaFbRecruit/status/1108423312508706816



Nova FB Recruiting

@NovaFbRecruit

Congrats to former

@NovaFootball

standout DB

@TakeOffReaves

on signing with the

@Wpg_BlueBombers

of the CFL! #TapTheRock #CatsInThePros



Malik Reaves


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on March 21, 2019, 05:47:31 PM
Malik Reaves

He was signed awhile ago.  Some of the rookies sound interesting but not sure if anyone makes the AR unless we have an injury. Might be an initial spot for a DI but most are fighting for PR spots.

Our current secondary is pretty solid with veteran talent. Sayles is the only 2nd year CFL starter. Rose was a good addition during the off season.

So far: Coleman, Cooper, Este, Humes, Patterson, Pruitt, Reaves & Thompson are the newer import DB's. Cooper and Humes were around a bit in 2018.

I did like Humes in his brief appearance in game 18 last year.

Just noticed Gaitor is the oldest of the import DB's. He's good but he might be the one DB at the most risk due to age and possible SMS. His advantage is experience and versatility.

Realistically you never know when a gem is uncovered in a new rookie. So the battles will be interesting.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on March 23, 2019, 05:06:16 AM
I agree... Like I said before, cut from AAF, then come to CFL, could be a good player.  Cut from CFL then cut from AAF?  Then you're done.  ;)

One of these years we gotta strike gold with a WR... it's just gotta happen, right?  Right??  :-[ :( :-\

Again, no. No two players are alike. Sure you can generalize it to that but you're wrong


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on March 23, 2019, 05:17:24 AM
What's true is that there are a several receivers signed and a ton more that will be assessed at free agent camps.

Any one of them could be the next Derel Walker or Brandon Zylstra.  We don't know yet but it's advisable to wait before judging what we have or have not in receiver talent.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on March 25, 2019, 06:13:01 PM
What's true is that there are a several receivers signed and a ton more that will be assessed at free agent camps.

Any one of them could be the next Derel Walker or Brandon Zylstra.  We don't know yet but it's advisable to wait before judging what we have or have not in receiver talent.

agreed, many wanted us to lock down top talent but it was too $$$$, need to be patient at receiver, can find someone at a deal and spend elsewhere


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue72 on March 25, 2019, 07:19:50 PM
The question is, would Walker or Zylstra have been as outstanding with Nichols throwing them the ball. Nichols has a problem hitting guys deep and with the QBs that these two guys had it made them look good. Plus we tend to go short more often then most teams, either that is because of our OC and his schemes or our QB needs more time to get the ball to deep receivers with accuracy.We seem to have a problem over 15-20 yards unless we use Streveler more, between his running threat and his arm he seems to have a little time as the LB aren't sure what to do.
So IF Harris ever went done does our OC change the whole game plan and does Nichols finally use all his receivers? Would a big name receiver really change this team as it was in 2018, does Nichols know how to throw to a receiver before a receiver turns to the ball or is on the RUN not stationary for more then 15 yards?
Lets not say again that the receivers were not open or good enough, because we went through a lot of receivers and with the same QB and the story is the same, the guys are never open. So what has to change the QB or the scheme (OC)?
Something will have to change this year as Dressler will not be there.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: SSC on March 25, 2019, 10:07:18 PM
What's true is that there are a several receivers signed and a ton more that will be assessed at free agent camps.

Any one of them could be the next Derel Walker or Brandon Zylstra.  We don't know yet but it's advisable to wait before judging what we have or have not in receiver talent.

Oh Please ! This team hasn't found a diamond in the rough at receiver for 4 years.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on March 25, 2019, 10:44:19 PM
Try 24 years!!

Who was the last diamond-in-the-rough reciever we uncovered?? It?s been a blur of mediocrity since the Geroy Simon,  Arland Bruce,  Milt stegal era.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Tehedra on March 26, 2019, 12:11:51 AM
Didn't 66Chevelle do some stat sheet that showed although we all feel that we don't do the long bomb that often, that in reality we were one of the higher completions of long receiving yards?  I swore he posted something about it once when we were talking receivers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 01, 2019, 10:39:42 PM
From CFL.CA transactions today.

2019-04-01   WPG   BALDWIN, Terrance   DB   I   West Liberty   Add To   Active Roster

5'10" 180 lbs. Seems to be a tackling machine on defense and ST's.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 09, 2019, 12:24:32 PM
Latest signings:

BOMBERS ADD RECEIVER DENNIS PARKS


WINNIPEG, MB., March 28, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international wide receiver Dennis Parks.

Parks
(6-2, 200, Rice, July 27, 1994 in San Antonio, Texas) started 46 career games at Rice, recording 97 receptions for 1,507 yards and 8 touchdowns.  He was also named an All-Conference USA selection as a punt returner. His most notable accomplishment was catching five passes for 109 yards against Fresno State in the Hawai'i Bowl, just the third time a wide receiver surpassed 100 yards in Rice bowl history. Following his collegiate career, Parks signed with Green Bay, and was later with the Cleveland Browns.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/03/28/bombers-add-receiver-dennis-parks/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/03/28/bombers-add-receiver-dennis-parks/)

BOMBERS ADD BALDWIN AND BOYNTON


WINNIPEG, MB., April 8, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive backs Terrance Baldwin and Malik Boynton.

Baldwin (5-10, 180, West Liberty, June 1, 1996 in Tampa, FL) recently worked out for Bombers scouting staff in Florida, running 4.38/4.39. Baldwin spent four seasons at West Liberty as a corner, recording 131 solo tackles, 31 passes defended and one interception in 41 games.

Boynton (6-0, 190, Austin Peay State University, June 30 in Detroit, MI.) played four seasons for the Austin Peay Governors, tallying 158 total tackles, 11 pass deflections, three forced fumbles and one interception in 43 games played. In his senior year, Boynton was named team captain and led the Governors to an eight-win season. In 2018, Boynton spent time with the Pittsburgh Steelers and Memphis Express of the AAF.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/08/bombers-add-baldwin-boynton/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/08/bombers-add-baldwin-boynton/)

Transactions April 8th:

2019-04-08   WPG    BOUTTE, Christian   DB   I   Nicholls State   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on April 10, 2019, 03:07:47 PM
Baldwin, Boynton, Boutte?  Are we trying to form the "Killer B's"?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 10, 2019, 04:51:23 PM
We've got 16 import DB's on the roster including the SAM's ( Gaitor & Fenner ). Cooper and Humes were here for part of 2018. Rose was added during free agency. 8 CFL rookies IIRC.

Interestingly nearly everyone is 5"10" or above. Cooper is 5'8" and Sayles is 5'9". Generally we've gotten taller, heavier and younger over the past few seasons.

TC always creates interesting battles with the rookie DB's and receivers trying to unseat veterans.

7 rookie import receivers. Adams and Thompkins returning starters from 2018.  Washington, Lawler and Nelson returning from 2018 time mostly on the PR.

Looking forward to the 2019 TC to see how things shape up.

Some of the newbies will stick. Who is the question. lol





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 13, 2019, 01:28:01 PM
From the Bomber page regarding draft choices 2014-2018. We've done well and continue to improve in that area each season.

TEAM    PICKS    CFL GAMES PLAYED
Montreal    45    810
Calgary    41    805
Winnipeg    36    798
Toronto    38    732
BC            37     725
Ottawa    40    696
Hamilton    35    580
Edmonton    34    520
Saskatchewan    39    474

 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on April 13, 2019, 02:14:50 PM
From the Bomber page regarding draft choices 2014-2018. We've done well and continue to improve in that area each season.

TEAM    PICKS    CFL GAMES PLAYED
Montreal    45    810
Calgary    41    805
Winnipeg    36    798
Toronto    38    732
BC            37     725
Ottawa    40    696
Hamilton    35    580
Edmonton    34    520
Saskatchewan    39    474
I read that yesterday and wondered how many of the games were played for the team that drafted them. That number is more indicative of how well teams drafted than CFL GAMES PLAYED.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 13, 2019, 02:22:19 PM
I read that yesterday and wondered how many of the games were played for the team that drafted them. That number is more indicative of how well teams drafted than CFL GAMES PLAYED.

Fair enough but whether they played for Winnipeg or were traded / picked up by other teams later it still has bearing on how well things went.

It would be an interesting alternate list to see as well.





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on April 13, 2019, 05:31:09 PM
Fair enough but whether they played for Winnipeg or were traded / picked up by other teams later it still has bearing on how well things went.

It would be an interesting alternate list to see as well.

Simply quoting number of CFL games played only shows that the team drafted CFL worthy players. It doesn't answer if those players stayed on the drafting team or if they ever started for the drafting team.

Here is what I'd really like to see, but aren't interested in putting together myself:

Team, Picks, Games played for team that drafted them, Games started for team that drafted them, CFL games played

Then you could tell if the players being drafted stayed with their draft team and whether the team is drafting starters vs backups or special teams guys. Those are pretty important stats IMO.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2019, 06:09:00 PM
Simply quoting number of CFL games played only shows that the team drafted CFL worthy players. It doesn't answer if those players stayed on the drafting team or if they ever started for the drafting team.

Here is what I'd really like to see, but aren't interested in putting together myself:

Team, Picks, Games played for team that drafted them, Games started for team that drafted them, CFL games played

Then you could tell if the players being drafted stayed with their draft team and whether the team is drafting starters vs backups or special teams guys. Those are pretty important stats IMO.

And how about allstar nominations / awards?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 13, 2019, 06:45:59 PM
And how about allstar nominations / awards?

The majority of all players drafted never become starters. They toil mostly as blue collar ST players and emergency back ups. Those that do become starters is a small pool 7x9=63 and judged on a position by position basis.

A starting guard can be very good and never see an all star award during his career for example


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on April 14, 2019, 05:14:25 AM
CDN Guards and centers are the backbones of an offensive line....on winning teams  anyway.

Find a good team and you will find a great group of linemen who can run(pull). The greatest play in football,is pulling a couple and running a trap play, and obliterating the prima Donna LBs and Des who think they have a clear shot at the RB,....amd then KAPOWWWWW, see ya!blown away!

Walters you southern Ontario ......get one of those guys who can run so we can enhance the line, and. Get Andrew his 2000 yards in his swan song year.
While you are there, get Mini Mack out of jail and put him in as the change of pace back ....or someone. Like him.

Cause lord knows we got no one to throw to. Lol!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Norm W on April 15, 2019, 04:33:00 PM

While you are there, get Mini Mack out of jail and put him in as the change of pace back ....


Regrettably Mack Herron passed away several years back. He was no longer incarcerated at the time of his death. He was living on the streets of Chicago. He had been arrested more than twenty times for drug offences and struggled with addiction most of his adult life, but it was reported that his death was the result of his poor health and complications related to diabetes.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on April 15, 2019, 06:35:38 PM
Simply quoting number of CFL games played only shows that the team drafted CFL worthy players. It doesn't answer if those players stayed on the drafting team or if they ever started for the drafting team.

Here is what I'd really like to see, but aren't interested in putting together myself:

Team, Picks, Games played for team that drafted them, Games started for team that drafted them, CFL games played

Then you could tell if the players being drafted stayed with their draft team and whether the team is drafting starters vs backups or special teams guys. Those are pretty important stats IMO.

Yes and no.  Chung and Loffler  were  great picks, even if they chose to go elsewhere in free agency.  That's not something you can control to any great degree.

In the same vein, Spooner might end up being a ball player with Edmonton, even though we were the ones who drafted him.  It was just a case of timing and situation.  Demski was a good pick by the Riders, even though we are the team that has reaped the most benefit. 

I agree that it is important to distinguish between starters, back-ups/rotational players, and special team players.  They all add value, but you really don't need to be drafting ST aces in the first two rounds.  And a guy like Jake Thomas, who no one would describe as a blue chipper, may be one of the best draft picks in recent memory, given where we got him.  A fourth round pick that puts in an eight year career with  consistent defensive reps is high value. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on April 15, 2019, 09:23:34 PM
Yes and no.  Chung and Loffler  were  great picks, even if they chose to go elsewhere in free agency.  That's not something you can control to any great degree.

In the same vein, Spooner might end up being a ball player with Edmonton, even though we were the ones who drafted him.  It was just a case of timing and situation.  Demski was a good pick by the Riders, even though we are the team that has reaped the most benefit. 

I agree that it is important to distinguish between starters, back-ups/rotational players, and special team players.  They all add value, but you really don't need to be drafting ST aces in the first two rounds.  And a guy like Jake Thomas, who no one would describe as a blue chipper, may be one of the best draft picks in recent memory, given where we got him.  A fourth round pick that puts in an eight year career with  consistent defensive reps is high value. 
Chungh and Loffler were good picks. They'd be great picks if they were still with the team. We got 1 game out of Spooner over 2 years. Even if he does well with Edmonton, he wasn't a good pick for us. Riders got 3 years out of Demski then lost him to us. That's another good pick, but not a great one.

That's kind of the point I'm trying to make. It's better to pick players that will stay on the drafting team, than it is to pick players who are only with the team for a couple of years.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on April 16, 2019, 12:08:02 PM
Chungh and Loffler were good picks. They'd be great picks if they were still with the team. We got 1 game out of Spooner over 2 years. Even if he does well with Edmonton, he wasn't a good pick for us. Riders got 3 years out of Demski then lost him to us. That's another good pick, but not a great one.

That's kind of the point I'm trying to make. It's better to pick players that will stay on the drafting team, than it is to pick players who are only with the team for a couple of years.

That's a ridiculous standard. Nothing is ever good enough.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on April 16, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
Chungh and Loffler were good picks. They'd be great picks if they were still with the team. We got 1 game out of Spooner over 2 years. Even if he does well with Edmonton, he wasn't a good pick for us. Riders got 3 years out of Demski then lost him to us. That's another good pick, but not a great one.

That's kind of the point I'm trying to make. It's better to pick players that will stay on the drafting team, than it is to pick players who are only with the team for a couple of years.
Well yeah of course you want your best canadians to stay but Chungh and Loffler were great picks because they wound up being so good they were offered contracts we couldn't afford.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Norm W on April 16, 2019, 12:31:57 PM
Quote
It's better to pick players that will stay on the drafting team, than it is to pick players who are only with the team for a couple of years.

So would the addition of a person to the team, say in the area of clairvoyance and the orbuculum be a hit to the coaching cap dollars or could they be considered administrative staff and a non-counter?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on April 16, 2019, 12:36:18 PM
They're two very separate things. You scout and draft the players who you think will make an impact. When they do, you have to retain them. If there is any criticism to be had, it's that we didn't present a compelling enough case for either player to stay with the Bombers over other choices (other teams or other professions).


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on April 16, 2019, 12:41:29 PM
They're two very separate things. You scout and draft the players who you think will make an impact. When they do, you have to retain them. If there is any criticism to be had, it's that we didn't present a compelling enough case for either player to stay with the Bombers over other choices (other teams or other professions).

Agreed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on April 16, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
It's not just how the Bombers drafted. I'd like to see how many drafted players every team keeps. Every team has a good idea of who the best players are in the draft. The best drafted players would be in the CFL no matter who drafted them. It would be interesting to see which teams are 'draft and keep' and which are 'draft and lose'.

Getting 2 or 3 years out of a draft pick doesn't make them great draft picks. Going on to have a career with another team doesn't help the drafting team.

It's not clairvoyance to understand that the better they are the more they're worth or that some players will 'go home' as soon as they can. Not paying them what they are worth on the open market isn't a draft problem. It's a management issue, but it doesn't change the fact that we don't get full value out of the picks.

We know what our cap dollars are. Every year we decide on how to spend those dollars. So it's not that we can't afford our drafted players, it's that we choose to use the money elsewhere. Hopefully that's because Management truly believes that the backups can do the job cheaper and that they are right.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on April 16, 2019, 01:36:47 PM
We did get an extra year out of Chungh, and didn't lose Goossen to another team...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on April 16, 2019, 02:46:44 PM
We did get an extra year out of Chungh, and didn't lose Goossen to another team...
It's not just how the Bombers drafted. I'd like to see how many drafted players every team keeps. Every team has a good idea of who the best players are in the draft. The best drafted players would be in the CFL no matter who drafted them. It would be interesting to see which teams are 'draft and keep' and which are 'draft and lose'.

Getting 2 or 3 years out of a draft pick doesn't make them great draft picks. Going on to have a career with another team doesn't help the drafting team.

It's not clairvoyance to understand that the better they are the more they're worth or that some players will 'go home' as soon as they can. Not paying them what they are worth on the open market isn't a draft problem. It's a management issue, but it doesn't change the fact that we don't get full value out of the picks.

We know what our cap dollars are. Every year we decide on how to spend those dollars. So it's not that we can't afford our drafted players, it's that we choose to use the money elsewhere. Hopefully that's because Management truly believes that the backups can do the job cheaper and that they are right.

A drafted player leaving via FA has absolutely no bearing on the success of that pick. A draft should be measured by the talent acquired, a GM job performance should be measured by the talent retained.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on April 16, 2019, 03:58:18 PM
A drafted player leaving via FA has absolutely no bearing on the success of that pick. A draft should be measured by the talent acquired, a GM job performance should be measured by the talent retained.
I disagree. Picks that stay on the team that drafted them are more successful than picks who leave after a couple of years. The GM is a major part of both drafting and player retention and should be measured by both.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on April 16, 2019, 04:11:54 PM
I disagree. Picks that stay on the team that drafted them are more successful than picks who leave after a couple of years. The GM is a major part of both drafting and player retention and should be measured by both.

The GM is measured by both - but they are still two separate things.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on April 16, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
I disagree. Picks that stay on the team that drafted them are more successful than picks who leave after a couple of years. The GM is a major part of both drafting and player retention and should be measured by both.

You're conflating 2 issues.  Yes, a GM should be evaluated on both drafting and player retention, but those are separate items, and should be evaluated separately.  You can't take steps to retain a player at the point you draft them, as the future isn't known yet.  You can take (or not take) steps to retain players when they approach free agency, whether or not you drafted them originally.  

Everyone agrees that retaining good players is a positive thing.  But the ability to do so is a separate issue from whether they were a good draft pick.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on April 16, 2019, 04:17:52 PM
You're conflating 2 issues.  Yes, a GM should be evaluated on both drafting and player retention, but those are separate items, and should be evaluated separately.  You can't take steps to retain a player at the point you draft them, as the future isn't known yet.  You can take (or not take) steps to retain players when they approach free agency, whether or not you drafted them originally.  

Everyone agrees that retaining good players is a positive thing.  But the ability to do so is a separate issue from whether they were a good draft pick.

Absolutely no question about that. I will rate Chungh and Loffler as successful draft picks that we were unsuccessful in retaining. We got good years out of them though, unlike draft failures like Pencer or Ekakitie....those are failed draft picks.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on April 16, 2019, 04:19:31 PM
The GM is measured by both - but they are still two separate things.

I totally agree with you. I think a GM, although ultimately the final say, does drafting by committee whereas player retention lies solely on his ability to do that segment of his job. It is insane to suggest that a GM should be able to look at what a player may choose to do 2 or 3 years down the road after you have drafted him. However, it is totally fair to criticize a GM when he loses a player to FA that the team needed to retain....if that makes sense.

There is absolutely no logical metric, in my mind, where the drafting of Chungh, Loffler, Goosen is diminished because of Walters" inability to retain them. Each proved to be multiple year all-stars for us, and therefore very successful draft picks. If we want to talk about Walters job performance on retention of these players....well that's fair game to varying degrees. A GMs ability to retain players can be criticized, but in fairness, that can be completely offset by his ability to replace players as well so we should see what we're working with first.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on April 16, 2019, 06:57:21 PM
We got one of the top 2 picks from 2014-2017. Missing the playoffs also gave us access to the top guys in each round in several of those draft years. IIRC we also had more first round picks than anyone else, but I didn't look it up. Higher picks in each round = higher chance that we place players in the CFL.

Some teams trade picks. Those teams have less chances to draft = less chance to place players in the CFL.

Walters has a huge hand in drafting players. He isn't just the final say. He prides himself on being the draft guru.

Chungh and Goosen were our draft picks because we had the 2nd over pick in their draft years. Loffler fell due to his injury history. Using only the metric of putting guys into the CFL, that's 3 for us, but only 1 player was even available to more than 1 other team and we're down to zero of them retained. 

In short, Number of players each team put into the CFL is as much about number of picks and how early they draft as it is about how well they draft. It doesn't even differentiate between starters, special teams, backups or PR players. Those numbers (and how many players they retain) are all very important to how well each team actually drafts. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 24, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
Darrin Bauming, TSN.  @DarrinBauming

This morning down in toasty southwest Florida the #Bombers coaching and scouting staff is kicking off a minicamp with 40 rookies, negotiation listers, and tryout participants - nary a name you would recognize.

*** These indicate players not currently under contract with the club.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D47ZMlPWsAUukiR.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 25, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
CAMPING OUT - DAY 1 OF BOMBERS MINI-CAMP

ALL EYES ON:

The collection of talent here is dominated by receivers and defensive backs, as they make up 30 of the 40 spots. Among those we would say had good days were receivers Rasheed Bailey - who caught everything - as well as Garrett 'Juice' Johnson, Lucky Whitehead, Drew Morgan, Chris Hubert and Matt Hazel and defensive backs Joe Este and Malike Boynton.

Linebacker Jarnor Jones and DB Malik Reaves also had interceptions in the afternoon session.

FYI:

There are seven players in camp who came along from the ashes of the now-defunct Alliance of American Football: QB Kevin Anderson (Orlando Apollos), DB Malik Boynton, LB Dale Warren and WR Drew Morgan (Memphis Express), RB Larry Rose III and WR Kenny Walker III (Arizona Hotshots) and Josh Steward (San Antonio Commanders).

"The leadership was there, the coaches were there, the people were there... everything was set in place," said Morgan, when asked for his take on the AAF. "I'm trying to be as positive as I can because I was really upset about it at the time. We got billed, we got charged with a lot of fees... that's on them. We literally got kicked out to the curb.

"Thank God my friend Johnny Manziel helped out. He's a good guy. He bought hotel rooms, he bought Air BnB's. He was like, 'Hey man, stay for a week, go out to eat, I'll take care of you.'

"I came out for practice and nobody was there. I was like, 'What the heck's going on?' I guess they sent out a memo, but I wasn't on the text (he was returning from injury) and I was left out. The equipment guy came by and he said, "We're done.'"

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/24/mini-camp-report-lucky-whitehead-looking-second-chance/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/24/mini-camp-report-lucky-whitehead-looking-second-chance/)


BOMBSHELLS: Players have shown their skills, now it's time for Bombers' management to make some tough decision


BRADENTON, Fla. - With only three practices to go on, Winnipeg Blue Bombers management, scouts and coaches had to make some quick decisions after their free-agent camp Wednesday and Thursday at IMG Academy.

They were expected to offer contracts to about 20 of the 42 "free agents" who took part in the camp, including seven receivers, seven defensive backs, one quarterback and a few running backs and linebackers.

Bombers general manager Kyle Walters said the decision had to be made by Friday afternoon, when the CFL's 56-hour protection window was due to run out.

Though some of the players signed contracts with the Bombers before the camp, they had to be released in order to participate. They were protected for the duration of the camp under CFL rules.

Come Friday, the Bombers will either have to sign them or put them on their neg list if they want to keep them in the fold.

"We had a long night of meetings Wednesday night, watched all the film as a staff, got the guys separated into unanimous yes, unanimous no chance and the third category of guys who are competing for the few spots we have left," Walters said as the camp wrapped up Thursday.

"It was a real big morning for a few of them on Thursday to clear up the last few contract spots."

Walters, Bombers coach Mike O'Shea and offensive co-ordinator Paul LaPolice were not about to divulge the names of players they thought performed well, but among the players who clearly impressed were receivers Rasheed Bailey, Matt Hazel, Garrett Johnson and Lucky Whitehead and defensive back Marcus Rios.

Receiver Drew Morgan was one of those on the bubble Thursday as players had one last chance to perform in one-on-ones.

"That drill, just from a scouting standpoint, is what we spent most of our time watching," Walters said. "You just look at who can run, who can catch, who can make plays. It's a very offensive drill. It's very difficult, in a one-on-one period, receiver vs. defensive back, for a DB to make plays. When you sat here and watched, you'd certainly think the receivers got the better of it and that's the way it always is."

WHY FLORIDA?

Walters explained why the Bombers held this free-agent camp in Florida this year instead of the mini-camp they normally run in Winnipeg in April.

"What we traditionally ran in the last few years was a true mini-camp," he said. "That meant you could have veterans there and we would have it up in Winnipeg. We were mostly rookie focused but we could have veterans there, including quarterbacks.

"They've eliminated the term mini-camp but they've still allowed us to run a free-agent camp and under the CBA, free-agent camps can't be held in Winnipeg. That forced us to come here. Every player out here does not have a registered contract. The players who did have contracts had to be released.

"Clear as mud."

https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/bombshells-players-have-shown-their-skills-now-its-time-for-bombers-management-to-make-some-tough-decision (https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/bombshells-players-have-shown-their-skills-now-its-time-for-bombers-management-to-make-some-tough-decision)

Transactions:


2019-04-24   WPG   WILSON, Tim   WR   I   East Stroudsburg   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   WILLIAMS, Dom   WR   I   Washington State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   WARREN, Dale   LB   I   Tennessee Chattanooga   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   WALKER, Kenny   WR   I   UCLA   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   THOMPSON, Mykkele   DB   I   Texas   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   SIMMONS, Jalen   RB   I   South Carolina State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   SCHOR, Bryan   QB   I   James Madison   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   ROSE, Larry   RB   I   New Mexico State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   REAVES, Malik   DB   I   Villanova   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   PRUITT, Jimmy   DB   I   San Jose State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   PARKS, Dennis   WR   I   Rice   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   OPARAKU, Chinedu   LB   I   Fairmont State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   JONES, Jarnor   DB   I   Iowa State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   JOHNSON, Garrett   WR   I   Kentucky   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   ESTE, Joseph   DB   I   Tennessee Martin   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   COLEMAN, Amari   DB   I   Central Michigan   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   CLARK, Evan   WR   I      Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   BOYNTON, Malik   DB   I   Austin Peay   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   BOUTTE, Christian   DB   I   Nicholls State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   BALDWIN, Terrance   DB   I   West Liberty   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-24   WPG   BAILEY, Rasheed   WR   I   Delaware Valley   Delete From Active   Free Agent


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 25, 2019, 08:12:48 PM
Ok. That explains Florida and why players attending had to be released from previous contracts.

I suppose previous contracts can be quickly re-instated for previously signed players if they want to. I wouldn't expect many / if any of that group to be bumped to the neg list. Although a few might be " speed dial " candidates if new rookies pushed them off in mini camp.

It sounds as though at least a few new players made early impressions and roster space will need to be made: Hazel, Rios and Whitehead sound like they did enough to get TC chances.

Bailey and Johnson were signed earlier during the off season so didn't do anything to not get re-signed it appears. Ditto a couple of players from yesterday as well.

It's a tough business with a small and brutal quick early analysis.

What time tomorrow do decisions need to be made?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 25, 2019, 11:23:53 PM

What time tomorrow do decisions need to be made?

Sometime in the afternoon.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue72 on April 26, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
I was looking over our defensive group and the back field with Rose, Alexander, Sayles, Fenner and Gaitor there is NO way that this group should be playing anyone soft. We can't be giving the opposition 10 yards off the ball anymore. So the question is, will our DC change some of his play calling or will our HC step in?

   Plus we don't know what TC will bring yet, so our DC can't say that our back field can't play man this year. We will have a strong backfield, LBing core and a very strong front line so there is NO excuses for Hall this year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 26, 2019, 11:36:03 PM
I was looking over our defensive group and the back field with Rose, Alexander, Sayles, Fenner and Gaitor there is NO way that this group should be playing anyone soft. We can't be giving the opposition 10 yards off the ball anymore. So the question is, will our DC change some of his play calling or will our HC step in?

   Plus we don't know what TC will bring yet, so our DC can't say that our back field can't play man this year. We will have a strong backfield, LBing core and a very strong front line so there is NO excuses for Hall this year.

Our secondary talent is looking very good. Humes impressed the coaches last year as well and we're bound to find some new talent in TC that will be kept around, probably mostly on PR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 28, 2019, 08:07:18 PM
Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
The #Bombers are back to three signal callers on the roster: Nichols, Streveler, and Bennett. Nobody jumped off the page during their Florida minicamp last week.

Bryan Schor    @bryanschor  20 hours ago
Got released from my CFL contract this afternoon. Don't feel sorry for me though. Life happens, I always land on my feet. Excited to see where things go from here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on April 29, 2019, 04:37:44 PM
https://www.bluebombers.com/?p=314709&preview=true



WINNIPEG, MB., April 29, 2019 ?  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has added international receiver Josh Stewart.

Stewart (6?4, 205, University of Texas at San Antonio, November 11, 1994) attended the club?s mini-camp last week in Florida. He played two seasons for the UTSA Roadrunners, totalling 75 receptions for 1,200 receiving yards and eight touchdowns. Stewart finished his college career as the Roadrunners? all-time leader in receiving yards. In 2018, Stewart signed with the San Antonio Commanders of the AAF.

The team has also released the following players, all internationals.

Quarterback Bryan Schor
Receiver Evan Clark
Receiver Dom Williams
Receiver Dennis Parks
Running back Jalen Simmons
Defensive back Terrance Baldwin
Defensive back Jimmy Pruitt
Defensive back Malik Reaves
Defensive back Mykkele Thompson
Defensive back Eric Patterson
Linebacker Jarnor Jones
Linebacker Chinedu Oparaku


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 29, 2019, 04:56:06 PM
I guess some of the new rookie's attending camp in Florida must have impressed.  12 players signed earlier being released was more than I thought would happen. No problem. Looking forward to see who the new players added turn out to be.

Oparaku was the only one from the PR from late last year IIRC. At the moment that only leaves imports Peter's who did not participate on the weekend ) and Warren + Hansen ( global player ) as fresh faces in the competition for TC, so far.

This leaves about 10 players signed prior to this weekend as neither signed or released, at least officially. In theory decisions needed to be made by now to re-sign, release or added back to neg list.





Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 29, 2019, 09:34:56 PM
BOMBERS ADD DB CHRISTIAN BOUTTE & MIKE JONES

WINNIPEG, MB., April 29, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive backs Christian Boutte and Mike Jones.

Boutte (5'10, 187, Nicholls State University, December 29, 1995 in Opelousas, LA.) played four seasons for the Nicholls Colonels, totalling 98 tackles, three forced fumbles and four interceptions in 43 games played. In 2018, Boutte signed with the Oakland Raiders as an undrafted free agent and also spent time with the Cleveland Browns during training camp.

Jones (5'11, 190, Temple, September 1, 1995 in Baltimore, MD) played his senior season at Temple, after starting 35 of 38 games and accumulating 114 tackles, 36 pass breakups and 11 interceptions at North Carolina Central. During his one season at Temple, he recorded 44 tackles (36 solo), one interception and seven passes defensed, while starting every game at corner.  Jones was signed as undrafted free agent by the New York Giants in 2018.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/29/bombers-add-db-christian-boutte-mike-jones/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/29/bombers-add-db-christian-boutte-mike-jones/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 30, 2019, 12:01:25 PM
Transactions April 29th:

2019-04-29   WPG   BAILEY, Rasheed   WR   I   Delaware Valley   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   BATTLE, Elijah   DB   I   West Virginia   Add To   Active Roster   - new signing
2019-04-29   WPG   BOUTTE, Christian   DB   I   Nicholls State   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   BOYNTON, Malik   DB   I   Austin Peay   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   COLEMAN, Amari   DB   I   Central Michigan   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   ESTE, Joseph   DB   I   Tennessee Martin   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   HAZEL, Matt   WR   I   Coastal Carolina   Add To   Active Roster   - new signing
2019-04-29   WPG   JOHNSON, Garrett   WR   I   Kentucky   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   JONES, Mike   DB   I   Temple   Add To   Active Roster  - new signing
2019-04-29   WPG   PATTERSON, Eric   DB   I   Ball State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-04-29   WPG   ROLLAND-JONES, Ja'Von   DL   I   Arkansas State   Add To   Active Roster   - new signing
2019-04-29   WPG   ROSE, Larry   RB   I   New Mexico State   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   STEWART, Josh    WR   I   Texas at San Antonio   Add To   Active Roster - new signing
2019-04-29   WPG   WALKER, Kenny   WR   I   UCLA   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   WARREN, Dale   LB   I   Tennessee Chattanooga   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-29   WPG   WILSON, Tim   WR   I   East Stroudsburg   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on April 30, 2019, 02:35:57 PM
Blue Bombers Add Two to Roster - April 30, 2019

WINNIPEG, MB., April 30, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international receiver Matt Hazel and international defensive end Ja'Von Rolland-Jones.

Hazel
(6'3, 190, Coastal Carolina University, January 23, 1992 in North Augusta, SC.) attended the team's mini-camp last week in Florida. He played three seasons for the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers, totalling 183 receptions for 2,553 receiving yards and 28 touchdowns. Hazel finished his college career as the leader in all-time receptions and second all-time in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns at CCU. In 2014, Hazel was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the sixth round of the 2014 NFL Draft. He has since spent time with the Buffalo Bills, Washington Redskins, Indianapolis Colts and Cleveland Browns.

Rolland-Jones (6'2, 245, Arkansas State, November 3, 1994 in Mesquite, TX.) played four seasons for the Arkansas State Red Wolves, totalling 179 total tackles, 42 sacks and ten forced fumbles in 48 games played. In 2016, Rolland-Jones was named the Sun Belt Conference Player of the Year. In 2018, Rolland-Jones was signed by the Cincinnati Bengals as an undrafted free agent. He also spent time with the Los Angeles Rams and Baltimore Brigade of the AFL.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/30/bombers-add-matt-hazel-javon-rolland-jones/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/04/30/bombers-add-matt-hazel-javon-rolland-jones/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on April 30, 2019, 08:07:09 PM
A couple of tall players nice, I like it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on April 30, 2019, 09:31:29 PM
A couple of tall players nice, I like it.

a 6'3 WR and a 6'2 DE are tall?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 30, 2019, 09:58:16 PM
a 6'3 WR and a 6'2 DE are tall?

At least they're not shorties.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on April 30, 2019, 10:39:19 PM
               WPG   ANDERSON, Kevin                 QB   I   Fordham   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   RIOS, Marcus   DB   I   UCLA         Add To        Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   TEMPLE, Nick   LB   I   Cincinnati   Add To   Active Roster

We're bringing Temple back again? You'd think we'd be able to come up with 50 new LB's and we're recyling 2016 PR? Swell.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on May 01, 2019, 02:43:34 AM
Well 6'3" is taller then most of the WR we brought in earlier in the year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 01, 2019, 03:17:53 AM
               WPG   ANDERSON, Kevin                 QB   I   Fordham   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   RIOS, Marcus   DB   I   UCLA         Add To        Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   TEMPLE, Nick   LB   I   Cincinnati   Add To   Active Roster

We're bringing Temple back again? You'd think we'd be able to come up with 50 new LB's and we're recyling 2016 PR? Swell.
One would think...oh well we will see


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 01, 2019, 11:13:25 AM
               WPG   ANDERSON, Kevin                 QB   I   Fordham   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   RIOS, Marcus   DB   I   UCLA         Add To        Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   TEMPLE, Nick   LB   I   Cincinnati   Add To   Active Roster

We're bringing Temple back again? You'd think we'd be able to come up with 50 new LB's and we're recyling 2016 PR? Swell.

Bombers really liked Temple but he got injured in the 2017 TC and was released because of it. Then bounced around and played some good ball in the AAF. I have no issues with them taking another look now that it appears he is healthy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on May 01, 2019, 02:01:57 PM
Bombers really liked Temple but he got injured in the 2017 TC and was released because of it. Then bounced around and played some good ball in the AAF. I have no issues with them taking another look now that it appears he is healthy.

His coach in the AAF was the ?Mike Riley?...who spoke highly of Temple. He really liked his game smarts and playmaking ability.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 01, 2019, 09:34:06 PM
*** Nick Temple is no longer listed on the transactions page.

BOMBERS SIGN MARCUS RIOS AND KEVIN ANDERSON

WINNIPEG, MB., May 1, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive back Marcus Rios and international quarterback Kevin Anderson.

Rios (6'0, 200, University of California, October 25, 1994 in Merced, CA.) played five seasons for the UCLA Bruins, totalling 84 tackles, two interceptions and two forced fumbles in 49 games played. In 2017, Rios signed with the Denver Broncos as an undrafted free agent.

Anderson (6'2, 215, Fordham University, Boca Raton, FL.) attended the club's mini-camp last week in Florida. He played four seasons for the Fordham Rams, completing 580 passes for 7,663 yards and 73 touchdowns. Anderson holds the record for most touchdown passes in the school's history and ranks top ten all-time in career passing yards and completions. In 2018, Anderson spent time with the Orlando Apollos of the AAF.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/01/bombers-sign-marcus-rios-kevin-anderson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/01/bombers-sign-marcus-rios-kevin-anderson/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 01, 2019, 10:30:28 PM
Bombers really liked Temple but he got injured in the 2017 TC and was released because of it. Then bounced around and played some good ball in the AAF. I have no issues with them taking another look now that it appears he is healthy.

Agree, have the advantage of knowing what you are bringing in. 

               WPG   ANDERSON, Kevin                 QB   I   Fordham   Add To   Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   RIOS, Marcus   DB   I   UCLA         Add To        Active Roster
2019-04-30   WPG   TEMPLE, Nick   LB   I   Cincinnati   Add To   Active Roster

We're bringing Temple back again? You'd think we'd be able to come up with 50 new LB's and we're recyling 2016 PR? Swell.

Don't judge him until you see him in this years camp.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 12:14:36 AM
Agree, have the advantage of knowing what you are bringing in. 

Don't judge him until you see him in this years camp.

I'm judging him less than I'm judging the scouts. I'd like to think in a couple of years of developing neg lists, mini camps and tryouts they could find a new candidate.

That's point of progressive improvement. Every day you hope to find a player that is better than the player that was here previously. We may as well have kept Wild as our DI.

I watched him in the AAF a few times. Didn't impress me that much or appear to be a LB that would be fighting for a starting role. 20 DT's in 8 games, no sacks.

Why do I need to wait for TC?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 02, 2019, 12:31:27 AM
I'm judging him less than I'm judging the scouts. I'd like to think in a couple of years of developing neg lists, mini camps and tryouts they could find a new candidate.

That's point of progressive improvement. Every day you hope to find a player that is better than the player that was here previously. We may as well have kept Wild as our DI.

I watched him in the AAF a few times. Didn't impress me that much or appear to be a LB that would be fighting for a starting role. 20 DT's in 8 games, no sacks.

Why do I need to wait for TC?

To give him a fair chance to make the club or PR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Curling4Me on May 02, 2019, 02:44:38 AM
To give him a fair chance to make the club or PR.
I?m usually skeptical when these resurfaces occur but you never know. Bob Cameron was cut too many times including by the Bombers before finally making the team. He may have been close to cracking the roster so hard to say why they brought him in.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 02, 2019, 05:43:19 AM
I watched him in the AAF a few times. Didn't impress me that much or appear to be a LB that would be fighting for a starting role. 20 DT's in 8 games, no sacks.

Hehe, no sacks because of AAF's really, really (really!) awful rule about only rushing 5 and having the rush pre-declared in the alignment.  Did I mention it was really awful?  Only dumber thing in the AAF was that OL illegally downfield nonsense.  Nothing better in my mind than a 350lb OLman (picture Hardrick) plowing down the field mowing a path for Harris.  AAF had some neat ideas, but those two weren't them.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 12:57:07 PM
To give him a fair chance to make the club or PR.

Part of the point as a 26 year old that has been to CFL TC's, he may no longer be prepared to accept another stint on the PR. Additionally he may want / expect something higher than an ELC at this point.

We need to find a LB that can fight for a starting spot be a DI and excel on ST's and / or be developed on the PR.

I don't see him as a fit in any of those roles. It's my opinion and my preference would be to find a young up and comer like JSK that made an immediate impact.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 02, 2019, 01:00:56 PM
Just bring back Khalil Bass


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 02, 2019, 01:15:39 PM
Part of the point as a 26 year old that has been to CFL TC's, he may no longer be prepared to accept another stint on the PR. Additionally he may want / expect something higher than an ELC at this point.

We need to find a LB that can fight for a starting spot be a DI and excel on ST's and / or be developed on the PR.

I don't see him as a fit in any of those roles. It's my opinion and my preference would be to find a young up and comer like JSK that made an immediate impact.

You are making a bunch of assumptions in order to justify your view on this, the biggest one being that he is not a good prospect and that he will somehow not have to be the best prospect in order to make the team. Sam Hurl called Nick Temple the best athlete he had ever seen. His first go round ended in a TC injury and obviously the Bombers like him still. I see absolutely no harm in bringing him to camp if that is the case.

Just because you don't see what role he might play with the club doesn't mean there isn't one. You are condemning scouting, in regards to Temple, without having any first hand knowledge about him. You are wilfully ignoring that the AAF scouting identified him as a top 3 prospect at his position not currently in the NFL/CFL. Just because he has been here before doesn't mean he cannot be a good prospect.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on May 02, 2019, 01:20:31 PM
yeah glad to see him back...was shocked/disappointed when we let him go, but if it was due to injury reasons then i see the point.

I think he will really push for that spot beside Biggie and that tandem would be a pretty athletic group..and to be honest I bet he brings more in the run prevention game than JSK did...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 02, 2019, 01:24:12 PM
yeah glad to see him back...was shocked/disappointed when we let him go, but if it was due to injury reasons then i see the point.

I think he will really push for that spot beside Biggie and that tandem would be a pretty athletic group..and to be honest I bet he brings more in the run prevention game than JSK did...

The Bombers were very high on Temple and had him neck and neck with JSK in TC. When he got injured the Bombers went with JSK and released him. I'm not suggesting that makes him anything more than a decent prospect, but certainly he is worth a 2nd look.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 01:31:38 PM
You are making a bunch of assumptions in order to justify your view on this, the biggest one being that he is not a good prospect and that he will somehow not have to be the best prospect in order to make the team. Sam Hurl called Nick Temple the best athlete he had ever seen. His first go round ended in a TC injury and obviously the Bombers like him still. I see absolutely no harm in bringing him to camp if that is the case.

Just because you don't see what role he might play with the club doesn't mean there isn't one. You are condemning scouting, in regards to Temple, without having any first hand knowledge about him. You are wilfully ignoring that the AAF scouting identified him as a top 3 prospect at his position not currently in the NFL/CFL. Just because he has been here before doesn't mean he cannot be a good prospect.

Other posters are making assumptions about him in a positive light as well. Doesn't make them right or me wrong. How much more 1st hand information do they have than I do? It's laughable mentioning the AAF calling him a top 3 prospect in a league with a flat pay scale an one that brought in Manziel.

I would have rather brought back Khalil Bass.

Anyway, time will tell. I'll be more than happy if he excels but I'm not expecting that to happen.

Being the best athlete doesn't always make the best football player.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 01:33:11 PM
The Bombers were very high on Temple and had him neck and neck with JSK in TC. When he got injured the Bombers went with JSK and released him. I'm not suggesting that makes him anything more than a decent prospect, but certainly he is worth a 2nd look.

Bombers were high on Hurl too. When have the Bombers ever suggested they weren't high on players. It's not their style. They're also high on Wilson and I'm not convinced about him either.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 02, 2019, 01:37:26 PM
You don't have to be high on Temple, but it's just plain wrong to criticize the scouts for bringing him in before TC. If he is a dud you will have plenty of time to criticize. Fact of the matter is that he could turn out to be our starting WIL this year, or he could flame out...who knows? Criticism of his signing is unfounded though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 01:41:34 PM
You don't have to be high on Temple, but it's just plain wrong to criticize the scouts for bringing him in before TC. If he is a dud you will have plenty of time to criticize. Fact of the matter is that he could turn out to be our starting WIL this year, or he could flame out...who knows? Criticism of his signing is unfounded though.

Pubic forum and I'm entitled to express an opinion even a negative one. I'm not the 1st poster to criticize the body of work from our scouts.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on May 02, 2019, 01:44:36 PM
Bass for his good attributes, had many bad ones as well...also his character and me first attitude rubbed many the wrong way and from what I know many guys within the locker room didn't like him and want him back..hence he was not resigned when he became a free agent his first go here...that to me was enough to warrant him being gone and not want him back then..or now


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on May 02, 2019, 02:02:39 PM
Bombers were high on Hurl too. When have the Bombers ever suggested they weren't high on players. It's not their style. They're also high on Wilson and I'm not convinced about him either.

I think this is twisting things a little bit. Obviously the Bombers aren't saying negative things about their players to the media - no team would.

Hurl was a forced start due to ratio at the time. He was not a guy brought back for a second look after an injury took him out of camp.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
Bass for his good attributes, had many bad ones as well...also his character and me first attitude rubbed many the wrong way and from what I know many guys within the locker room didn't like him and want him back..hence he was not resigned when he became a free agent his first go here...that to me was enough to warrant him being gone and not want him back then..or now

Wouldn't want him back either but I'd say he'd have been a better choice, SMS question aside. He seemed to perform better in the AAF than Temple but we don't know assignments on given plays so that can be misleading.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 02:11:33 PM
I think this is twisting things a little bit. Obviously the Bombers aren't saying negative things about their players to the media - no team would.

Hurl was a forced start due to ratio at the time. He was not a guy brought back for a second look after an injury took him out of camp.

He was re-signed for 2017 and became the starter. Of all the places to potentially start a sub par Canadian, MLB wouldn't be my 1st choice. Weekly reports from management always said how well he filled his role / duties. Did they convince any of us? lol


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on May 02, 2019, 02:30:49 PM
He was re-signed for 2017 and became the starter. Of all the places to potentially start a sub par Canadian, MLB wouldn't be my 1st choice. Weekly reports from management always said how well he filled his role / duties. Did they convince any of us? lol

I think we need to use our critical thinking skills to separate propaganda from potential.

We know Hurl wasn't our first choice, but a combination of ratio, defensive philosophy, and likely weak scouting at the time made him the best option in the coaches eyes.

With Temple - he may or may not make the roster - but the team's previous experience with determined that he has a chance to compete against the rest of the LB's brought in this year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 02, 2019, 02:36:01 PM
yeah glad to see him back...was shocked/disappointed when we let him go, but if it was due to injury reasons then i see the point.

I think he will really push for that spot beside Biggie and that tandem would be a pretty athletic group..and to be honest I bet he brings more in the run prevention game than JSK did...

It's a matter of principle, the Bombers have brought back players injured in previous TC's numerous times to give them a fair shot, I wouldn't read too much into this either way.  Temple gets another chance to prove his worth, no harm, no foul.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 02, 2019, 02:46:27 PM
It's a matter of principle, the Bombers have brought back players injured in previous TC's numerous times to give them a fair shot, I wouldn't read too much into this either way.  Temple gets another chance to prove his worth, no harm, no foul.

Previous TC's maybe. He's 2 years removed which is a little more outside the box. The " foul " is the 75 man TC roster and eliminating a possible younger rookie.

Ah well. We'll see if he shows well or not.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 02, 2019, 09:36:26 PM
Transactions May 1st:

2019-05-01   WPG   TEMPLE, Nick   LB   I   Cincinnati   Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-01   WPG   NELLIS, Hayden      N      Delete From Territorial Exemption   Free Agent


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 02, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
You are making a bunch of assumptions in order to justify your view on this, the biggest one being that he is not a good prospect and that he will somehow not have to be the best prospect in order to make the team. Sam Hurl called Nick Temple the best athlete he had ever seen. His first go round ended in a TC injury and obviously the Bombers like him still. I see absolutely no harm in bringing him to camp if that is the case.

Just because you don't see what role he might play with the club doesn't mean there isn't one. You are condemning scouting, in regards to Temple, without having any first hand knowledge about him. You are wilfully ignoring that the AAF scouting identified him as a top 3 prospect at his position not currently in the NFL/CFL. Just because he has been here before doesn't mean he cannot be a good prospect.

I support every moment of this post

Pubic forum and I'm entitled to express an opinion even a negative one. I'm not the 1st poster to criticize the body of work from our scouts.

Here we go again....

don't judge book by the cover, that is all


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 01:19:25 AM
I support every moment of this post

Here we go again....

don't judge book by the cover, that is all

Yessir MR. Positive about everything.  Not everything has to be all Blue Sunshine in spite of what you say.

You like our scouts? Name the last 2 import receivers the Bomber scouts have found that made significant impact. Repeat and rinse. Success at LB not much better. It didn't take a scout to know signing Bighill as a free agent was a smart move.

The cover as you put it is shredded and moth worn in a few spots were success has been not very good.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on May 03, 2019, 03:19:12 AM
I support every moment of this post

Here we go again....

don't judge book by the cover, that is all
Oh my gosh... there is no book!!! Our scouts have produced very very little in way of talent compared to other teams, definitely sub par . The majority of our talent ?impact? players ?which includes bighill, andrew harris, nichols, demski, Jefferson, have come from either trade or free agency. The one poster is right, name the last decent impact WR our scouts have uncovered


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 03, 2019, 01:35:14 PM
Well, every TC is the same. Sometimes a highly thought of prospect flames out while some unknown player rises to the top.

We've been finding a few gems each of the last few seasons. I expect we will this year as well. Who they are and at what position none of us know at the moment.

Let the competition begin.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 04, 2019, 09:18:58 AM
DE Nwachukwu Noble released


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 04, 2019, 01:15:01 PM
DE Nwachukwu Noble released

That has to be the worst, feel sorry for any players that get cut before TC opens in the cut down, they prepare all winter for the opportunity but never get to show.  Until they touch ground in Wpg. off-season recruits are little more than a list of interesting names.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 04, 2019, 01:18:40 PM
That has to be the worst, feel sorry for any players that get cut before TC opens in the cut down, they prepare all winter for the opportunity but never get to show.  Until they touch ground in Wpg. off-season recruits are little more than a list of interesting names.

Part of that is a reflection on who we drafted I suppose. Might also be a casualty due to signing another import while maintaining the 75 player rule.

Same thing with Patterson that didn't go or get invited to Florida.

We might see another couple of changes before the main TC. Some late signings and a couple that fail to show / pass physical at rookie camp is the norm.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 04, 2019, 02:49:20 PM
DE Nwachukwu Noble released
I'm actually disappointed. I thought he could be an intriguing DT prospect. But the fact they listed him as an end says he never stood a chance


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 04, 2019, 08:39:14 PM
I'm actually disappointed. I thought he could be an intriguing DT prospect. But the fact they listed him as an end says he never stood a chance

He may have asked to be released and thought he might get an offer for an NFL mini camp. Why a given player is released before TC is not always obvious. We see players get suspended before TC and possibly decide to retire.

The fact he was listed as a DE and not a DT not a huge deal. Many DL get moved around in different positions across the DL and OLB's.

There have been players released early in the past and returned at a later date. Choices and reasons are fluid.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 05, 2019, 04:06:36 AM
Yessir MR. Positive about everything.  Not everything has to be all Blue Sunshine in spite of what you say.

You like our scouts? Name the last 2 import receivers the Bomber scouts have found that made significant impact. Repeat and rinse. Success at LB not much better. It didn't take a scout to know signing Bighill as a free agent was a smart move.

The cover as you put it is shredded and moth worn in a few spots were success has been not very good.



Positive that GCn18 was bang on here, that is all.  Thanks for your off topic rant (that I found a little hard to follow) as a method to distract from the original argument / discussion.  I didn't say anything about our scouts.  Thank you. 

The discussion was about Temple.  Try to stay on topic and try to limit your personal attacks.  That would be great.  Thank you for your cooperation.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 05, 2019, 12:46:56 PM
Positive that GCn18 was bang on here, that is all.  Thanks for your off topic rant (that I found a little hard to follow) as a method to distract from the original argument / discussion.  I didn't say anything about our scouts.  Thank you. 

The discussion was about Temple.  Try to stay on topic and try to limit your personal attacks.  That would be great.  Thank you for your cooperation.


You have no understanding of the context of the conversation.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 05, 2019, 07:54:49 PM
I have zero issue with criticizing scouting. I have very vocally criticized them on this forum. I just think criticizing this year's recruits is premature. If we end up sucking at WIL, S, or any of the new positions then tbere is reason to grouse.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 05, 2019, 08:33:08 PM
I have zero issue with criticizing scouting. I have very vocally criticized them on this forum. I just think criticizing this year's recruits is premature. If we end up sucking at WIL, S, or any of the new positions then tbere is reason to grouse.
This. The CFL draft is a crapshoot. Guys retire early, guys never get a shot and some guys shine. If we fall off at positions we apparently thought we could replace (more specifically Will, guard and Safety) well then criticism is in order. Ditto if we still can't find a receiver. Because its unrealistic to be able.to fill every hole with a free agent


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 05, 2019, 09:38:46 PM
I have zero issue with criticizing scouting. I have very vocally criticized them on this forum. I just think criticizing this year's recruits is premature. If we end up sucking at WIL, S, or any of the new positions then tbere is reason to grouse.

For the record I was specifically criticizing the re-signing of Temple in regard to the scouts. It just seemed like a backwards step. That is even almost irrelevant to whether Temple competes well.

The scouts have found some very good talent in the past. However they have failed at certain roster positions. Whether that changes in 2019 will be seen during the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 06, 2019, 12:24:34 AM
but sometimes it's just as much about the 'fit' of a player with a team as it is with pure talent... and vice versa, sometimes you are looking for that guy that checks all of the boxes for how you want to use him but the talent is a little short... you gotta know that it has to be a tough job for a scout to be able to consistently hit home runs, same with a GM...

I read online yesterday that 14 of the 31 1st round draft picks from the 2016 NFL draft won't be extended the 5th year option from their teams that they can exercise to keep them... that's quite a few and I'd hate to see what they spend on scouting...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 06, 2019, 01:10:47 AM
I find the fight for a position on the O-line to be the most interesting battle, potentially 2 spots for 7 Natl. competitors.

Neufeld is safe until serious injury or his salary determine he is not.

Bryant and Hardrick are safe for this year but it will be interesting for next year if Eli demonstrates he can step in at Tackle and play flawlessly.  Salary demands may come into play.

Foketi, best not unpack his bags as odds are they will be going with 3 Natl. O-linemen, if he is willing to hang around to back up Bryant and Hardrick he may find himself sitting on the P.R. rather than the game day or I.R.

Couture is in the spotlight, he needs to prove quickly that he learned well behind Goosen and can provide the same level of protection and leadership. 

Gray, has a big step up on his competitors due to his pedigree and potential, most likely candidate to occupy Chungh's spot by mid-season IMO.

Speller, Ouellet De Carlo, Koczwara, and new comers Desjarlis and Eli will be in a dogfight to determine the pecking order, two will probably be released or end up on the P.R..  As the Ekakitie and Spooner cuts show there is an attitude/work ethic component to consider that is not often discussed or known about, if Eli has retired once I think he already has a strike against him when it comes down to the level of desire and love for football that O'shea expects from his players. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 06, 2019, 02:12:11 AM
I agree, what happens with the o line is going to be interesting to follow...

the worse part of it is that he had a really good o line... talent and chemistry, not mention the continuity that comes along with player together over time... even if we replace the talent there will be the growing pains for them all being comfortable together and playing as a unit, hopefully it comes together quickly...

but you're right, there is the possibility of the domino effect when you lose those types of players... not only replacing them but how it effects those still here or if they stay here...

luckily we're not necessarily in a bad place and we weren't absolutely gutted with the off season loses, but it will be felt... how badly, or how long is yet to be determined... I guess that's just one of the things to love about the game and makes it even more interesting for us fans...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 06, 2019, 11:04:23 AM
This. The CFL draft is a crapshoot. Guys retire early, guys never get a shot and some guys shine. If we fall off at positions we apparently thought we could replace (more specifically Will, guard and Safety) well then criticism is in order. Ditto if we still can't find a receiver. Because its unrealistic to be able.to fill every hole with a free agent

Yea...I will gladly question the scouting if they once again fail to fill the holes with new recruits. However, we won't know until the bullets are flying.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 06, 2019, 11:08:04 AM
For the record I was specifically criticizing the re-signing of Temple in regard to the scouts. It just seemed like a backwards step. That is even almost irrelevant to whether Temple competes well.

The scouts have found some very good talent in the past. However they have failed at certain roster positions. Whether that changes in 2019 will be seen during the season.

You keep saying Temple is a backwards step and I'm not sure why? Temple was up against Knox and JSK in the LBer battle and by all accounts was neck and neck with JSK until his TC injury. When he was injured we released him to make room for someone else, not because he lacked skill. Now we have an opening that he competed very well for in the past, I see no reason why bringing him back should be viewed as a recruitment failure. The kid can ball, and he is only one of several guys signed to compete at that position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on May 06, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
I find the fight for a position on the O-line to be the most interesting battle, potentially 2 spots for 7 Natl. competitors.

Neufeld is safe until serious injury or his salary determine he is not.

Bryant and Hardrick are safe for this year but it will be interesting for next year if Eli demonstrates he can step in at Tackle and play flawlessly.  Salary demands may come into play.

Foketi, best not unpack his bags as odds are they will be going with 3 Natl. O-linemen, if he is willing to hang around to back up Bryant and Hardrick he may find himself sitting on the P.R. rather than the game day or I.R.

Couture is in the spotlight, he needs to prove quickly that he learned well behind Goosen and can provide the same level of protection and leadership. 

Gray, has a big step up on his competitors due to his pedigree and potential, most likely candidate to occupy Chungh's spot by mid-season IMO.

Speller, Ouellet De Carlo, Koczwara, and new comers Desjarlis and Eli will be in a dogfight to determine the pecking order, two will probably be released or end up on the P.R..  As the Ekakitie and Spooner cuts show there is an attitude/work ethic component to consider that is not often discussed or known about, if Eli has retired once I think he already has a strike against him when it comes down to the level of desire and love for football that O'shea expects from his players. 

I think the odds are very strong we go all-national on the interior.  Foketi at OG is the failsafe.

Couture slots in at center and Neufeld at LG.  I think Desjarlais and Gray and possibly Speller are competing for the RG position.  Even if we sign Eli, he is a year away.  The others are battling for a look at sixth man or injury replacements.

I like all the depth but whether someone is starter-ready at RG is the big question.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on May 06, 2019, 12:45:36 PM
I think the odds are very strong we go all-national on the interior.  Foketi at OG is the failsafe.

Couture slots in at center and Neufeld at LG.  I think Desjarlais and Gray and possibly Speller are competing for the RG position.  Even if we sign Eli, he is a year away.  The others are battling for a look at sixth man or injury replacements.

I like all the depth but whether someone is starter-ready at RG is the big question.

I agree, the future pipeline is stocked again, but in terms of field-ready guys, it's a little bare. Foketi is still a real possibility - though we can hope that Gray legit beats him out.

A lot of people were talking about Desjarlais as a centre? But Eli also was one in college. Hopefully some good battles a couple years down the road.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 01:29:29 PM
You keep saying Temple is a backwards step and I'm not sure why? Temple was up against Knox and JSK in the LBer battle and by all accounts was neck and neck with JSK until his TC injury. When he was injured we released him to make room for someone else, not because he lacked skill. Now we have an opening that he competed very well for in the past, I see no reason why bringing him back should be viewed as a recruitment failure. The kid can ball, and he is only one of several guys signed to compete at that position.

I suggested a few reasons earlier including:

1. 2 years removed from the CFL.
2. A little older now and probably less prepared to accept a PR role if he doesn't make the AR.
3. There are many import LB's out there that didn't get drafted in the NFL. Find one / several.
4. I watched him play in the AAF and wasn't impressed. Seemed to be in chase mode a lot.


Having looked good in TC is not the same as looking good on game day. Look at Myles White last year and he couldn't even stick with the Argos. In 2017 Carmichael looked good in TC and sucked on game day.

Decisions get made in TC when declaring rosters. Some work out and some don't. Early injuries usually result in a player getting released.

The " accounts " of TC battles from past seasons don't impress me. He didn't even complete TC due to injury.

So whatever talent he has or showed, there must be an abundance of players out there in the pool with equivalent or more.

Obviously I'm not going to convince you or vice versa. I'm going to feel the same way even if he makes the roster.

I guess we'll see how this works out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
I agree, the future pipeline is stocked again, but in terms of field-ready guys, it's a little bare. Foketi is still a real possibility - though we can hope that Gray legit beats him out.

A lot of people were talking about Desjarlais as a centre? But Eli also was one in college. Hopefully some good battles a couple years down the road.

I think we all agree Foketi is a good import OL and as insurance. That said we've been keeping him on the DR at full pay for 2 seasons. Insurance. Not the worst decision but it comes at the cost of SMS.

If we hadn't of lost 2 Canadian OL starters I might have been prepared to find a rookie import OL to hold on the PR instead of the DR. Obviously that's a risk / reward question and hindsight is always perfect.

Foketi could still be here in 2020 as a starter if we lose / choose to move from Bryant or Hardrick. He may still end up being the starter in 2019?

OL in TC is going to be a series of closely watched decisions. Do the Canadians show enough to win starting roles and depth that allows us to not need Foketi? Or do we end up with a 3 import OL?



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 02:48:07 PM
As much as losing Chungh and Goossen in the offseason hurt, I really think we still have a solid Oline, one of the best. 

Bryant and Hardrick are beasts at OT, and great guys on top of that.  With Foketi to back them up, this is a huge advantage for us.

Neufeld / Couture / Gray is a pretty decent interior.  Neufeld, when healthy, is a top Olineman.  Couture has enough time under his belt that he should be able to slot in at C.  If he wasn't capable, the braintrust would have moved on long ago...  and Gray... well... we know his story. 

Having one of Dejarlais or Eli as sixth man would be awesome as well.  Neufeld and Gray can always bump out to OT in case of injury if Eli or Dejarlais can't be effective at OT, although I think both might be OK at any Oline spot...

Having Koczwara, Speller and O de C competing as well makes it pretty deep... not sure about the Int OT recruits, what they bring, but if I'm already happy with the Int OT situation, having players in camp that could Improve on it is awesome, right?



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on May 06, 2019, 02:51:54 PM
I think we all agree Foketi is a good import OL and as insurance. That said we've been keeping him on the DR at full pay for 2 seasons. Insurance. Not the worst decision but it comes at the cost of SMS.

If we hadn't of lost 2 Canadian OL starters I might have been prepared to find a rookie import OL to hold on the PR instead of the DR. Obviously that's a risk / reward question and hindsight is always perfect.

Foketi could still be here in 2020 as a starter if we lose / choose to move from Bryant or Hardrick. He may still end up being the starter in 2019?

OL in TC is going to be a series of closely watched decisions. Do the Canadians show enough to win starting roles and depth that allows us to not need Foketi? Or do we end up with a 3 import OL?



We will always have an import OT as one of the two non-dressers, that's standard operating procedure.  You have to have a guy ready (who has practiced with the team) if one of your OTs goes down.  It's find to shuffle a Canadian out to OT to finish the game, but you need a bona fide OT for the next one.  And if you find that hen's tooth, a Canadian who plays OT well enough, then you get him into the line up as a starter, in which case you still need the non-dressing OT as insurance.  

Other than QBs, quality OTs are the most valuable commodity in the CFL, and you don't want to be trying to plug and play with some hobo. When you pay a guy full salary as a non-dresser, you significantly reduce the chances that he jumps to another squad.  Foketi may eventually want to test free agency, but right now he has a good gig and he provides value to the team.  


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 03:07:36 PM
We will always have an import OT as one of the two non-dressers, that's standard operating procedure.  You have to have a guy ready (who has practiced with the team) if one of your OTs goes down.  It's find to shuffle a Canadian out to OT to finish the game, but you need a bona fide OT for the next one.  And if you find that hen's tooth, a Canadian who plays OT well enough, then you get him into the line up as a starter, in which case you still need the non-dressing OT as insurance.  

Other than QBs, quality OTs are the most valuable commodity in the CFL, and you don't want to be trying to plug and play with some hobo. When you pay a guy full salary as a non-dresser, you significantly reduce the chances that he jumps to another squad.  Foketi may eventually want to test free agency, but right now he has a good gig and he provides value to the team.  

I'm not sure that's always true. As I've suggested he could sit on the 1 game IR just as easily. That way he can continue to practice and be activated for the next game if there is an injury.

The 2 man DR should have two players that might be the most probable need to activate during the game day warm ups. If for example you have a starting WR, LB, DB or OL nicked and questionable, then a game day change might be made.

There are more import starters at every other position so the odds of an issue in warm ups is more probable per se. Of course you have to take into account the other depth players at those positions in making those choices.

In theory, Neufeld could have slid out to OT due to in game injury. Couture would have slid out to OG as the 6th OL in 2018.

That picture changes in 2019 after losing 2 starters. I see more justification for Foketi on the 2 man DR than the 1 game IR in 2019.

I do believe Foketi will be a good OL if we need to use him. So my comments have nothing to do with evaluating his talent. Only where we might have rostered him in 2018 and now in 2019.

Whether 2 man DR or 1 game IR he's still getting paid.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 03:15:09 PM
I'm not sure that's always true. As I've suggested he could sit on the 1 game IR just as easily. That way he can continue to practice and be activated for the next game if there is an injury.

The 2 man DR should have two players that might be the most probable need to activate during the game day warm ups. If for example you have a starting WR, LB, DB or OL nicked and questionable, then a game day change might be made.

There are more import starters at every other position so the odds of an issue in warm ups is more probable per se. Of course you have to take into account the other depth players at those positions in making those choices.

In theory, Neufeld could have slid out to OT due to in game injury. Couture would have slid out to OG as the 6th OL in 2018.

That picture changes in 2019 after losing 2 starters. I see more justification for Foketi on the 2 man DR than the 1 game IR in 2019.

I do believe Foketi will be a good OL if we need to use him. So my comments have nothing to do with evaluating his talent. Only where we might have rostered him in 2018 and now in 2019.

Whether 2 man DR or 1 game IR he's still getting paid.

The difference between the 2 man DR and the 1 Game IR is that if he is not legit injured, then that means his IR salary and whoever replaces him on the DR both count to SMS.  If you need the roster flexibility of hiding a player on the 1 game IR, you are in more trouble that you should be in, and are making an SMS decision that could come back to bite you as all 1 game IR cheques are full SMS value.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 03:20:41 PM
The difference between the 2 man DR and the 1 Game IR is that if he is not legit injured, then that means his IR salary and whoever replaces him on the DR both count to SMS.  If you need the roster flexibility of hiding a player on the 1 game IR, you are in more trouble that you should be in, and are making an SMS decision that could come back to bite you as all 1 game IR cheques are full SMS value.

You think teams don't hide players on 1 game IR and that every player is a legit injury? lol

Yes there is an additional SMS but I explained the risk / reward scenario. At what position in a given week might we NEED to activate a player from the 2 man DR? Flexibility is valid and that need will change week to week.

It's insurance and insurance has a cost.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 03:25:59 PM
You think teams don't hide players on 1 game IR and that every player is a legit injury? lol

Yes there is an additional SMS but I explained the risk / reward scenario. At what position in a given week might we NEED to activate a player from the 2 man DR? Flexibility is valid and that need will change week to week.

It's insurance and insurance has a cost.

No doubt that the 1 game is used for illegitimate reasons, but Chris Jones insured that a close eye will be kept, and no uninjured player can be forced onto it to "protect" him.  If a player would rather play somewhere else than languish on an IR, he can make the team activate him, or release him.  Not to mention that extra SMS salary would be a lot more valuable than "insurance" from a player not worthy of a DR spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 03:39:36 PM
No doubt that the 1 game is used for illegitimate reasons, but Chris Jones insured that a close eye will be kept, and no uninjured player can be forced onto it to "protect" him.  If a player would rather play somewhere else than languish on an IR, he can make the team activate him, or release him.  Not to mention that extra SMS salary would be a lot more valuable than "insurance" from a player not worthy of a DR spot.

I didn't say Foketi wasn't worth a DR spot just that there was an alternative to the DR. Whether that was the best use of the DR or IR is purely speculative. Every decision has to take in SMS and who we want to keep around and what it takes to retain that player.

This year we may need to find roster space for our top 4 picks. Who they replace, when or where we put those players on the roster is something to watch. Will I be surprised to see a couple of 2019 draft pics on the 1 game IR? Nope, but they might also push 2018 draft picks off the roster. TBD.

I don't know if a player has as much choice as you think about being placed on the 1 game IR. Every injured player thinks he can play every week. Where the line gets drawn between the player and team doctor is not as clear.

Certainly not every decision is a good decision. I questioned how much we were paying Flanders and Lankford on the PR most of the season. More than min and IMO they could have been easily replaced by a rookie with more upside.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 06, 2019, 04:17:40 PM
I didn't say Foketi wasn't worth a DR spot just that there was an alternative to the DR. Whether that was the best use of the DR or IR is purely speculative. Every decision has to take in SMS and who we want to keep around and what it takes to retain that player.

This year we may need to find roster space for our top 4 picks. Who they replace, when or where we put those players on the roster is something to watch. Will I be surprised to see a couple of 2019 draft pics on the 1 game IR? Nope, but they might also push 2018 draft picks off the roster. TBD.

I don't know if a player has as much choice as you think about being placed on the 1 game IR. Every injured player thinks he can play every week. Where the line gets drawn between the player and team doctor is not as clear.

Certainly not every decision is a good decision. I questioned how much we were paying Flanders and Lankford on the PR most of the season. More than min and IMO they could have been easily replaced by a rookie with more upside.

Putting a 100% healthy Foketi on the IR is not the same as putting Dressler on the IR.  Sure, Dressler thinks he can play every week, but the doctors have legit concerns most of the time.  Foketi, if he is 100%, can refuse the IR.  No doctor would certify he has an issue and risk having his license pulled when proven wrong.  A player under contract on the DR has no rights to force a team to play / trade him.  As soon as you PR them, they have that option, and you can't IR them "for insurance" unless they Want to be IR'd.  With the demand for solid OT's out there, if Foketi wanted to play instead of back up, he'd have that option if forced to the IR or put on the PR.  Hence, the perfect place for him is the DR...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 04:42:11 PM
Putting a 100% healthy Foketi on the IR is not the same as putting Dressler on the IR.  Sure, Dressler thinks he can play every week, but the doctors have legit concerns most of the time.  Foketi, if he is 100%, can refuse the IR.  No doctor would certify he has an issue and risk having his license pulled when proven wrong.  A player under contract on the DR has no rights to force a team to play / trade him.  As soon as you PR them, they have that option, and you can't IR them "for insurance" unless they Want to be IR'd.  With the demand for solid OT's out there, if Foketi wanted to play instead of back up, he'd have that option if forced to the IR or put on the PR.  Hence, the perfect place for him is the DR...

I'm not sure if any of that is true. I'd have to believe that every player on every team on the 1 game IR was actually injured.

IIRC at the end of 2018 we put Nelson and a couple of PR players on the 1 game IR after they played game 2018. Whether Foketi was ever asked to move to 1 game IR or not I don't know.

By game 2 of the season half the players have some sort of nick. Most play though those injuries and others are day to day. You don't have to have a serious injury to be considered as a candidate for 1 game IR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 04:50:14 PM
When are we going to see an updated roster? Any word on what's happening with Whitehead? Is he out of the picture now and if so what happened?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 06, 2019, 04:54:38 PM
Putting a 100% healthy Foketi on the IR is not the same as putting Dressler on the IR.  Sure, Dressler thinks he can play every week, but the doctors have legit concerns most of the time.  Foketi, if he is 100%, can refuse the IR.  No doctor would certify he has an issue and risk having his license pulled when proven wrong.  A player under contract on the DR has no rights to force a team to play / trade him.  As soon as you PR them, they have that option, and you can't IR them "for insurance" unless they Want to be IR'd.  With the demand for solid OT's out there, if Foketi wanted to play instead of back up, he'd have that option if forced to the IR or put on the PR.  Hence, the perfect place for him is the DR...

It is extremely rare for a player to refuse going on the 1 game IR as a way to hide them. 99.9% of the time they are grateful for the opportunity to make a full game cheque instead of a PR cheque for the week. Going on the PR gives them zero freedom because all the team has to do is activate them if someone tries to claim them. You are over reaching.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 06, 2019, 05:22:40 PM
We will always have an import OT as one of the two non-dressers, that's standard operating procedure.  You have to have a guy ready (who has practiced with the team) if one of your OTs goes down.  It's find to shuffle a Canadian out to OT to finish the game, but you need a bona fide OT for the next one.  And if you find that hen's tooth, a Canadian who plays OT well enough, then you get him into the line up as a starter, in which case you still need the non-dressing OT as insurance.  

Other than QBs, quality OTs are the most valuable commodity in the CFL, and you don't want to be trying to plug and play with some hobo. When you pay a guy full salary as a non-dresser, you significantly reduce the chances that he jumps to another squad.  Foketi may eventually want to test free agency, but right now he has a good gig and he provides value to the team.  

I believe Foketi was scheduled to become a F.A. prior to last season but re-upped before the dead-line, he seems comfortable being the backup OT and the Bombers seem happy to pay him to do so. If a legitimate Natl. OT emerges that may change but can't really see that happening anytime soon.  I think he will only get action at OG if the Natl's fail to impress.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 05:27:52 PM
Anyway. Our Canadian depth has improved over the past few seasons and by all accounts we drafted well this year.

Injury issues aside it's going to be difficult to keep everyone. There are going to be a few battles to start on the OL and who we want and can find spots for on the rosters.

Starting safety ( probably Jones ) but we drafted some players so starting and back up roles are in the mix.

Augustine and Oliveria will be given good looks in TC.

Those newer players that can play well on ST's will improve their chances.

Looking forward to TC and seeing how this works out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 05:30:11 PM
I believe Foketi was scheduled to become a F.A. prior to last season but re-upped before the dead-line, he seems comfortable being the backup OT and the Bombers seem happy to pay him to do so. If a legitimate Natl. OT emerges that may change but can't really see that happening anytime soon.  I think he will only get action at OG if the Natl's fail to impress.

It's not a bad move by the team especially as free agency becomes more difficult each season. SMS and players leaving for bigger paychecks means needing to cover some bases.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 06, 2019, 05:32:54 PM
Anyway. Our Canadian depth has improved over the past few seasons and by all accounts we drafted well this year.

Injury issues aside it's going to be difficult to keep everyone. There are going to be a few battles to start on the OL and who we want and can find spots for on the rosters.

Starting safety ( probably Jones ) but we drafted some players so starting and back up roles are in the mix.

Augustine and Oliveria will be given good looks in TC.

Those newer players that can play well on ST's will improve their chances.

Looking forward to TC and seeing how this works out.

I wonder if Oliveira can contribute on punt returns?  Doesn't have top end speed but has power and elusiveness going for him, Augustine had a few cracks last season but no great returns that I can recall. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
I wonder if Oliveira can contribute on punt returns?  Doesn't have top end speed but has power and elusiveness going for him, Augustine had a few cracks last season but no great returns that I can recall. 

I'm not sure but both might see some work during TC's on returns. They don't necessarily have to be the primary returner but if they can add value on returns or coverage that's helpful.

RB's especially the smaller ones are elusive, good at breaking tackles and tough to bring down due to low center of gravity.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue girl on May 06, 2019, 06:46:13 PM
I wonder if Oliveira can contribute on punt returns?  Doesn't have top end speed but has power and elusiveness going for him, Augustine had a few cracks last season but no great returns that I can recall. 
I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone out there know if he's ever returned punts or kickoffs?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 06, 2019, 07:37:12 PM
I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone out there know if he's ever returned punts or kickoffs?

It doesn't appear he ever fulfilled that role with the N.D. Fighting Hawks other than once when he returned a kickoff for 23 yards in 2017.  Probably a case of him being too valuable to risk, being the main engine of the team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 06, 2019, 10:11:35 PM
It doesn't appear he ever fulfilled that role with the N.D. Fighting Hawks other than once when he returned a kickoff for 23 yards in 2017.  Probably a case of him being too valuable to risk, being the main engine of the team.

That wouldn't be the case in Winnipeg.  He's not going to be the # 1 RB. Who becomes the # 2 or # 3 and when is a question. It doesn't prevent utilizing them on ST's if they can perform in that role. At the very least as alternate choices to an import primary returner or when wind requires 2 returners.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 06, 2019, 10:13:30 PM
When are we going to see an updated roster? Any word on what's happening with Whitehead? Is he out of the picture now and if so what happened?

I observed, CFL.ca dont update the roster & transaction pages on weekends. I think it will be updated tonite.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 06, 2019, 11:55:12 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw98a2Sh7Z8/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=9fomzmodlv5g

Hmmmm


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 07, 2019, 03:25:55 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw98a2Sh7Z8/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=9fomzmodlv5g

Hmmmm

🤫🤫🤫 😁


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 07, 2019, 02:18:42 PM
Azeez Al-Shaair. Looks like a tackling / wrecking ball on the field.32 TFL!!! Big enough to play MLB and probably a good WIL candidate as well.

Career Defensive Statistics
Career Defensive Statistics
Season    GP    SOLO    AST    TOT    TFL-YDS    SACKS-YDS    INT    PD    FF    FR    BLK
2015    12    50    44    94    7-29    1.5-10    0    2    1    0    0
2016    12    57    56    113    12-37    2-10    1    1    0    0    0
2017    13    72    75    147    11-47    2.5-20    0    4    1    0    0
2018    6    22    21    43    2.5-15    1.5-13    0    1    0    0    0
Total    43    201    196    397    32.5-128    7.5-53    1    8    2    0    0

Is he the player we think we're signing?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 07, 2019, 03:56:39 PM
Pretty sure that's Lucky Whitehead in the picture as well. Think we may be signing a pair of Owls. Whitehead would be huge, he has been on our neg list for a long time and is an elite returner.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on May 07, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
Pretty sure that's Lucky Whitehead in the picture as well. Think we may be signing a pair of Owls. Whitehead would be huge, he has been on our neg list for a long time and is an elite returner.

It was Lucky, we must have signed him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on May 07, 2019, 04:29:18 PM
It was Lucky, we must have signed him.

That?s my guess too...because Aziz signed with the 49ers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 07, 2019, 06:18:51 PM
IDK. Their 2018 and 2019 roster show # 1 as Willie Wright. He was a junior in 2018 so shouldn't be him? Whitehead? Well we'll see who when there is an official announcement.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 07, 2019, 06:32:31 PM
IDK. Their 2018 and 2019 roster show # 1 as Willie Wright. He was a junior in 2018 so shouldn't be him? Whitehead? Well we'll see who when there is an official announcement.
Well I mean he tagged Whitehead. Jeffcoat even welcomed him to the team


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 07, 2019, 06:49:17 PM
IDK. Their 2018 and 2019 roster show # 1 as Willie Wright. He was a junior in 2018 so shouldn't be him? Whitehead? Well we'll see who when there is an official announcement.

Lucky wore number one as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 07, 2019, 07:14:28 PM
Well if we have signed him he'll be a player to watch in TC. He seemed to be getting rave revues in the mini camp and has some NFL experience under his belt.


EDIT: Roster finally updated. 73 to 76 players including the 1 Global player ( who isn't actually listed ) & one import not listed ( DB Battle ). I believe we have 3 non counters from 2018 draft. Depending on how the global player fits, it appears we have roster space for 3 or 4 more counters?

Operaku has now been deleted from a few minutes ago. Roster still in flux so there may be some additions coming shortly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on May 07, 2019, 11:36:55 PM
Why is Drake Nevis not on the roster?  We signed him March 16, and I can?t find him on the roster, and I can?t find any status change on cfl.ca....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 08, 2019, 01:50:41 AM
You have no understanding of the context of the conversation.

Sure I do, but now you are just trying another cheap shot.  Try again, thank you.

I have zero issue with criticizing scouting. I have very vocally criticized them on this forum. I just think criticizing this year's recruits is premature. If we end up sucking at WIL, S, or any of the new positions then tbere is reason to grouse.

Bang on.  Blue in BC was jumping the gun, that's for certain.

You keep saying Temple is a backwards step and I'm not sure why? Temple was up against Knox and JSK in the LBer battle and by all accounts was neck and neck with JSK until his TC injury. When he was injured we released him to make room for someone else, not because he lacked skill. Now we have an opening that he competed very well for in the past, I see no reason why bringing him back should be viewed as a recruitment failure. The kid can ball, and he is only one of several guys signed to compete at that position.
Bang on, agree with it all. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 12:53:25 PM
Sure I do, but now you are just trying another cheap shot.  Try again, thank you.

Bang on.  Blue in BC was jumping the gun, that's for certain.
 Bang on, agree with it all. 


I stand by everything I said including that you have no understanding of the context. Scouting has been a bone of contention by many posters for several seasons. Until they succeed in areas they have previously failed, why would I automatically give them a " pass " on success?

Doing the same thing and expecting different results?

Did they find a top receiver this season? Maybe, it's going to take awhile to know with any certainty.

You want to blow blue smoke up their wahzoo? Fine. You want to / you will take your shots at everybody that isn't positive about everything again this season? Yah right.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 08, 2019, 01:16:58 PM
I stand by everything I said including that you have no understanding of the context. Scouting has been a bone of contention by many posters for several seasons. Until they succeed in areas they have previously failed, why would I automatically give them a " pass " on success?

Doing the same thing and expecting different results?

Did they find a top receiver this season? Maybe, it's going to take awhile to know with any certainty.

You want to blow blue smoke up their wahzoo? Fine. You want to / you will take your shots at everybody that isn't positive about everything again this season? Yah right.

The scouts have not earned any smoke blown up their butt and totally deserve criticism for previous years recruitment. However, judgement cannot possibly be made on this year's class of recruits, nor Nick Temple, as of yet. My expectations are not high based on previous year's for our recruiting class, but I feel it would be ignorant if I dismissed them without seeing them play first. All I'm saying is reserve judgement until TC and see what we've got. There will be plenty of time to ginsu the scouts afterwards and at least it will be informed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 01:36:55 PM
The scouts have not earned any smoke blown up their butt and totally deserve criticism for previous years recruitment. However, judgement cannot possibly be made on this year's class of recruits, nor Nick Temple, as of yet. My expectations are not high based on previous year's for our recruiting class, but I feel it would be ignorant if I dismissed them without seeing them play first. All I'm saying is reserve judgement until TC and see what we've got. There will be plenty of time to ginsu the scouts afterwards and at least it will be informed.

I've criticized ONE player signing and the logic behind it as not an optimum sign of progress. Backward step as I called it. I supported my reasoning behind that opinion, including having watched him in the AAF recently. Whether Temple succeeds or to what level or not is not the entire point.

I've made many mostly positive statements / hopes about many other signings and additions of a few CFL free agent signings this off season.

OTOH I also think it's fair to be critical at times as well. How far does benefit of doubt go? It's unusual to bring back a player from 2 TC's previous. I can't think of another example.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 08, 2019, 02:37:39 PM
I've criticized ONE player signing and the logic behind it as not an optimum sign of progress. Backward step as I called it. I supported my reasoning behind that opinion, including having watched him in the AAF recently. Whether Temple succeeds or to what level or not is not the entire point.

I've made many mostly positive statements / hopes about many other signings and additions of a few CFL free agent signings this off season.

OTOH I also think it's fair to be critical at times as well. How far does benefit of doubt go? It's unusual to bring back a player from 2 TC's previous. I can't think of another example.

It is not unusual at all for teams to bring back players cut in TC due to injuries. The only reason Temple wasn't re-signed once he was fully recovered from injury was the emergence of JSK....a guy that he was neck and neck with in TC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 08, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
Why is Drake Nevis not on the roster?  We signed him March 16, and I can?t find him on the roster, and I can?t find any status change on cfl.ca....

Good question.  Maybe the contract hasn't been verified by the league?  Maybe there is a health clause awaiting fulfillment?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 08, 2019, 03:43:05 PM
Why is Drake Nevis not on the roster?  We signed him March 16, and I can?t find him on the roster, and I can?t find any status change on cfl.ca....

It is not unusual for CFL.ca to forget to add players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 08, 2019, 03:46:42 PM
Good question.  Maybe the contract hasn't been verified by the league?  Maybe there is a health clause awaiting fulfillment?

Contracts must be verified by the league within 7 days of being signed or they are null and void. It could be that they reached a verbal agreement and for roster purposes the contract has not been signed and filed yet....or it could be an oversight by CFL.ca


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
It is not unusual at all for teams to bring back players cut in TC due to injuries. The only reason Temple wasn't re-signed once he was fully recovered from injury was the emergence of JSK....a guy that he was neck and neck with in TC.

I keeping saying it but you keep ignoring it. Bringing back a player from the previous TC perhaps. From 2 years ago is unusual. Not having even been in another CFL TC in  2018 even moreso.

Nothing stopped the team from bringing him back in 2018 if he was that close in the battle.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 04:01:52 PM
It is not unusual for CFL.ca to forget to add players.

It shouldn't be that hard to keep rosters straight. We have players announced as signed not on the roster ( Battle, Nevis & Temple ) and we have players announced as released still on the roster.

Maybe they can get this straight by the beginning of TC. Some of these transactions were reported long ago.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on May 08, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
It is not unusual for CFL.ca to forget to add players.

He's missing from the roster on the blue bombers site.  His signing shows up on cfl.ca transactions, and there is no release. 

I don't really expect instantaneous updates, but after almost 2 months, he should be listed.  I am kind of surprised at the haphazard way they seem to maintain roster information.  A lag is understandable, but there should at least be consistency. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 08, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
He's missing from the roster on the blue bombers site.  His signing shows up on cfl.ca transactions, and there is no release. 

I don't really expect instantaneous updates, but after almost 2 months, he should be listed.  I am kind of surprised at the haphazard way they seem to maintain roster information.  A lag is understandable, but there should at least be consistency. 

Totally agree. It has been this way for far too long.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 08, 2019, 04:51:42 PM
I keeping saying it but you keep ignoring it. Bringing back a player from the previous TC perhaps. From 2 years ago is unusual. Not having even been in another CFL TC in  2018 even moreso.

Nothing stopped the team from bringing him back in 2018 if he was that close in the battle.

Not ignoring anything, just don't agree with you.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 04:57:04 PM
Not ignoring anything, just don't agree with you.

Fair enough but at least IMO I've tried to support my opinion. You haven't offered much more than he looked good in TC 2017 and wanting to give the scouts benefit of the doubt.

So we'll agree to disagree and see what happens in TC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 08, 2019, 09:35:11 PM
Transactions May 7th

2019-05-07   WPG   HUMPHREY, Myles      N      Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-05-07   WPG   HUMPHREY, Myles      N      Add To   Active Roster

I'm not sure what was going on here but Humphrey is an International linebacker that was released by the Giants on May 6th. I think the Bombers may have added him to their neg list.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 08, 2019, 09:36:17 PM
Bombers add linebacker to roster

WINNIPEG, MB., May 8, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international linebacker Nick Temple.

Temple (5'10, 224, University of Cincinnati, March 9, 1993 in Indianapolis, IN.)  played four seasons for the University of Cincinnati Bearcats, totalling 282 tackles, 11 sacks and three interceptions. In 2016, Temple spent time with the Blue Bombers, playing in one game and making one tackle. In 2018, Temple played for the San Antonio Commanders of the AAF, making 20 total tackles and forcing one fumble.


https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/08/bombers-add-linebacker-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/08/bombers-add-linebacker-roster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 08, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Transactions May 7th

2019-05-07   WPG   HUMPHREY, Myles      N      Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-05-07   WPG   HUMPHREY, Myles      N      Add To   Active Roster

I'm not sure what was going on here but Humphrey is an International linebacker that was released by the Giants on May 6th. I think the Bombers may have added him to their neg list.

The transactions are confusing the year.  I don't know if he got added or deleted or to what. In the past neg lists were not published so I wouldn't expect to see transactions of that happening.

This transaction sounds like the normal transaction where a player that was signed has now been released. However we aren't aware he was ever signed to begin with, so it's a puzzle.

In the NFL he was listed as a DE. In the CFL he might be able to play DE or LB I suppose.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 08, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
I stand by everything I said including that you have no understanding of the context. Scouting has been a bone of contention by many posters for several seasons. Until they succeed in areas they have previously failed, why would I automatically give them a " pass " on success?

Doing the same thing and expecting different results?

Did they find a top receiver this season? Maybe, it's going to take awhile to know with any certainty.

You want to blow blue smoke up their wahzoo? Fine. You want to / you will take your shots at everybody that isn't positive about everything again this season? Yah right.

I never mentioned the scouts you did.  Again you continue to keep distracting from the topic.  Consider posting with more respect in the future rather than just getting angry when people present the other side of argument. 

To review, you showed little support for Temple, I and other suggested you jumped the gun.  That is all.  I shall now disconnect from you again it's clear you have no interest in debate, simply trying to make me look bad.  I will take the high road and suggest that we agree to disagree as per below.

Fair enough but at least IMO I've tried to support my opinion. You haven't offered much more than he looked good in TC 2017 and wanting to give the scouts benefit of the doubt.

So we'll agree to disagree and see what happens in TC.

I am in similar opinion as GCn18, he has done a much better job in articulating his thoughts on the subject.  I suggest re-reading what he posted over the last few pages.  There is logic and merit in allowing a player a 2nd chance before writing him off like you suggested we do.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 08, 2019, 10:47:23 PM
The scouts have not earned any smoke blown up their butt and totally deserve criticism for previous years recruitment. However, judgement cannot possibly be made on this year's class of recruits, nor Nick Temple, as of yet. My expectations are not high based on previous year's for our recruiting class, but I feel it would be ignorant if I dismissed them without seeing them play first. All I'm saying is reserve judgement until TC and see what we've got. There will be plenty of time to ginsu the scouts afterwards and at least it will be informed.

Truth and wisdom posted above, I am in full support of this.  Great post.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: VictorRomano on May 09, 2019, 02:55:09 PM
Humphries Senior Year highlight reel.  The fact he's blowing guards back off the LOS when opposing the run is pretty impressive.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/2850205/5a0f04f8b53e560a409321db


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 09, 2019, 03:49:08 PM
Humphries Senior Year highlight reel.  The fact he's blowing guards back off the LOS when opposing the run is pretty impressive.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/2850205/5a0f04f8b53e560a409321db

He might be a good candidate. The question is if he was just cut in the NFL on May 6, how did we release him on May 8.

It would make sense if he was released from the neg list. However wouldn't his new status as a free agent be more of a reason to try and bring him to the CFL? Plus we haven't seen neg list changes even deletions shown on the transaction page before.

Perhaps they contacted him and he said he'd never consider the CFL. An odd coincidence in timing at the least.

DL is not an area of weakness but he might still have been worth a look.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 09, 2019, 03:49:40 PM
BTW. Nevis is back on the roster today :)

There are not going to be many roster spots for any rookies to start or even make the AR. Roster looks pretty good with veteran acquisitions and / or 2nd year players primed to take open spots.

1. WIL. Wilson probably ends up as the starter but there will be competition.
2. I expect a LB as a DI but we have no returning players, so we'll see a rookie back up.
3. Secondary likely doesn't have a rookie starting. Pretty solid group
4. I expect a DB as a DI. Humes and Cooper were both here in 2018. A chance one becomes a starter pushing a veteran, or a pure CFL rookie shines in TC. A DI spot for someone more likely early season.
5. Receiver is where we might see rookies. Thompkins may or may not have a lock to start. So 2 changes possible although not necessarily rookies fighting for spots. Three returning PR receivers may push for a role.
6. A returner?

Barring injury and what happens with the ratio, I only envision 5 or 6 import rookies making the AR. Figuring out the 2018 and 2019 draft choices is more difficult. Most will be around or DR, IR or PR.

Shaping up pretty nice for this point of the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 09, 2019, 09:51:32 PM
BOMBERS SIGN RECEIVER LUCKY WHITEHEAD

WINNIPEG, MB., May 9, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international wide receiver Lucky Whitehead.

Whitehead (5'9, 180, Florida Atlantic University, June 2, 1992 in Manassas, VA.) attended the club's mini-camp last month in Florida. He played three seasons in the NFL after being signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2015. Whitehead had 1,151 total return yards, 189 rushing yards and nine receptions for 64 receiving yards in 30 games. Whitehead spent his two-year college career at Florida Atlantic, totalling 896 receiving yards and ten total touchdowns in 19 games.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/09/bombers-sign-receiver-lucky-whitehead/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/09/bombers-sign-receiver-lucky-whitehead/)


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https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/10/off-season-depth-chart-winnipeg-blue-bombers/ (https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/10/off-season-depth-chart-winnipeg-blue-bombers/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 10, 2019, 12:24:02 PM
Worth a read. Bombers off-season depth chart article was posted at CFL.ca today: https://www.cfl.ca/2019/05/10/off-season-depth-chart-winnipeg-blue-bombers/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 01:01:10 PM
We also signed DB Payton Hall from Saskatchewan


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 10, 2019, 01:02:55 PM
Chris Matthews just signed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 01:07:24 PM

where's DM3, he need to eat a big serving of crow


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 01:07:58 PM
Chris Matthews just signed.

Signed where?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 1chad on May 10, 2019, 01:10:06 PM
Signed where?

Here. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 01:10:19 PM
Signed where?

https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/112684937010675712


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
Here. 

Excellent news. That really throws the battle at receiver into a different light. Less of a worry now.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 10, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1126849370106757120


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on May 10, 2019, 01:15:07 PM
Stupendous.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 03:41:53 PM
we need to cut 3 off the roster since we are over the limit of 75


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 04:16:53 PM
we need to cut 3 off the roster since we are over the limit of 75

Does that include the 3 2018 draft picks which are in theory non counters? The current roster still doesn't show Battle that was signed after the Florida camp. Doesn't include the global player Hansen. He was drafted but he may not have been signed yet and whether he's some sort of non counter is yet another question ( probably if he gets signed ).

I show 76 players currently and that doesn't include Matthews yet. So that comes to 77 at the moment? Battle might make it 78 but I'm beginning to think he's not actually signed or has been released.

We just signed a DB, Payton Hall from Sask. He must be a non drafted, non counter as well.

Roster seems pretty close to updated on a near daily basis now.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 04:28:29 PM
Does that include the 3 2018 draft picks which are in theory non counters? The current roster still doesn't show Battle that was signed after the Florida camp. Doesn't include the global player Hansen. He was drafted but he may not have been signed yet and whether he's some sort of non counter is yet another question ( probably if he gets signed ).

I show 76 players currently and that doesn't include Matthews yet. So that comes to 77 at the moment? Battle might make it 78 but I'm beginning to think he's not actually signed or has been released.

We just signed a DB, Payton Hall from Sask. He must be a non drafted, non counter as well.

Roster seems pretty close to updated on a near daily basis now.

no

i counted Battle since he is in CFL.ca transaction page. signed 4/29


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 04:32:50 PM
no

i counted Battle since he is in CFL.ca transaction page. signed 4/29

Then 78 sounds right but aren't Firlotte, Koczwara and Oulette De Carlo non counters as 2018 draft choices that returned to school last year?

Either way if we need to add any new players I can envision import receivers at the bottom of the depth chart being where the deletions come. Initially DB's and receivers are needed in quantity in order to evaluate.

We've only got 4 import LB's competing for WIL and DI and back up's. Might be a bit thin there


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 04:37:29 PM
Then 78 sounds right but aren't Firlotte, Koczwara and Oulette De Carlo non counters as 2018 draft choices that returned to school last year?

Either way if we need to add any new players I can envision import receivers at the bottom of the depth chart being where the deletions come. Initially DB's and receivers are needed in quantity in order to evaluate.

We've only got 4 import LB's competing for WIL and DI and back up's. Might be a bit thin there

yep they are non-counters


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 04:42:46 PM
yep they are non-counters

Then it doesn't sound as though we are over the limit at the moment. The next signing of any import will necessitate an off setting deletion.

There are usually some casualties at rookie camp. No shows, medical failures etc. Perhaps some late interest from neg list of Florida camp.

Just throwing out a number but I'll speculate 2 more changes before main TC. No particular specific reason, just for fun so to speak and past history of " just before " main TC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 10, 2019, 04:45:10 PM
More non-counters:


Ed Tait @EdTaitWFC

The #Bombers sign two of their 2019 draft class: DB Nick Hallett and DL Tariq LaChance


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 04:59:26 PM
We drafted 2 DB's and added Hall as well. That's a lot of Canadian DB's. I wonder which are the best at playing ST's, which might be the deciding factor. Do the 2 drafted this year have any eligibility left?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue72 on May 10, 2019, 06:42:19 PM
With all the Nat signings could some of the ST LBers be on the bubble or even Rush or Miller if Oliveira shows well? We need guys that could do more then just STs, STs is important but we need more 2 way players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 10, 2019, 07:12:17 PM
With all the Nat signings could some of the ST LBers be on the bubble or even Rush or Miller if Oliveira shows well? We need guys that could do more then just STs, STs is important but we need more 2 way players.

Miller is pretty safe in my eyes, Rush a little less so.  Both are ST demons, and if we cut them they will get a gig in the CFL immediately.  I don't think either are breaking the bank, and we'd see just a small SMS advantage going younger,  but we have signed some pricey players of late... and this might be where they economize.  Would hate to see Miller go though, and Rush is quite the story, but its on the field that counts. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 10, 2019, 07:15:31 PM
Chris Matthews just signed.

Any idea on term and $?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 10, 2019, 07:17:25 PM
Any idea on term and $?

3 years and between $160k and $300k... ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 10, 2019, 07:47:39 PM
Miller is pretty safe in my eyes, Rush a little less so.  Both are ST demons, and if we cut them they will get a gig in the CFL immediately.  I don't think either are breaking the bank, and we'd see just a small SMS advantage going younger,  but we have signed some pricey players of late... and this might be where they economize.  Would hate to see Miller go though, and Rush is quite the story, but its on the field that counts. 
Rush is not a ST "demon". Awesome guy but he mostly just does KO returns as a blocker. Completely replaceable


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on May 10, 2019, 07:52:18 PM
Miller is one of the best..Rush is okay...but if both Augustine and Oliveira show that can play on the cover teams I would/think hope Augustine takes Lafrances spot, and Oliveira takes Rush's...as either or would offer more in the "fullback" role Rush and Miller come in for..Augustine looked fine on teams last year, got down field fast and kept his lanes...not sure of Oliveira's history doing that, but it is teachable and is something a guy wants to go out and kill it at...and from sounds of it..he's that kind of guy


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 08:11:57 PM
With all the Nat signings could some of the ST LBers be on the bubble or even Rush or Miller if Oliveira shows well? We need guys that could do more then just STs, STs is important but we need more 2 way players.

Rush may have difficulty making the roster. Possibly more so due to the DL we drafted but the DB's might come into play as well. That might be more likely to see Heckt & Janke with some serious competition.

Miller is very good / valuable on ST's so I think he's safe. He may see less activity as a FB but his ST role is very important.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 10, 2019, 08:26:50 PM
Rush may have difficulty making the roster. Possibly more so due to the DL we drafted but the DB's might come into play as well. That might be more likely to see Heckt & Janke with some serious competition.

Miller is very good / valuable on ST's so I think he's safe. He may see less activity as a FB but his ST role is very important.
I like Conteh over Janke


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 10, 2019, 08:35:18 PM
I like Conteh over Janke

Conteh is faster and a better cover guy by reports. So yes he's probably ranked higher than Janke who might also be a decent player. Hard to tell how this sorts out exactly. We know we can't keep every player we might to.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 10, 2019, 09:09:06 PM
Could LaChance be converted to FB and figure in our ST team ?
He got the motor.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 10, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
BOMBERS AGREE TO TERMS ON THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH WIDE RECEIVER CHRIS MATTHEWS

WINNIPEG, MB., May 10, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms on a three-year contract with international wide receiver Chris Matthews. Matthews originally broke into the CFL with Winnipeg in 2012, being named the CFL's Most Outstanding Rookie that season.

Matthews (6-5, 230, Kentucky, October 6, 1989 in Long Beach, CA) signed with the Grey Cup winning Calgary Stampeders last October, starting the Stamps' final four regular season games, the Western Final and Grey Cup, and recording 19 receptions for 350 yards and one touchdown. He recorded at least three catches in all but one of his six games with Calgary last season, and his top outing came at Winnipeg when he registered five catches for 113 yards.

"Chris is not only a big-bodied receiver, but has experience in our league and with Coach LaPolice," said Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters. "He is a very physical receiver, will go up and get the football, and we are very excited to add him to our offence in 2019."

Matthews was the CFL's Most Outstanding Rookie in 2012, breaking into the league by recording 81 catches, 1,192 receiving yards and seven touchdowns. After playing four games for Winnipeg during an injury-abbreviated 2013 campaign, Matthews went to the National Football League and played a total of 25 regular-season and playoff games for the Seattle Seahawks and Baltimore Ravens from 2014 to 2017.

Matthews played a key role for the Seahawks in the NFL playoffs following the 2014 season as his onside kick recovery allowed Seattle to complete a comeback victory over the Green Bay Packers in the NFC championship game and he had four catches for 109 yards and a touchdown in Super Bowl XLIX.

Matthews scored the first ever Bomber touchdown at Investors Group Field on a touchdown pass by now Bombers quarterbacks coach Buck Pierce.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/10/bombers-agree-terms-three-year-contract-wide-receiver-chris-matthews/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/10/bombers-agree-terms-three-year-contract-wide-receiver-chris-matthews/)


BOMBERS SIGN TWO 2019 DRAFT PICKS

WINNIPEG, MB., May 10, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed two of their 2019 CFL Draft selections, defensive back Nick Hallett and defensive lineman Tariq LaChance.

Hallett (6-0, 195, University of Toronto, February 12, 1994 in London, ON) was selected 61st overall in last week's draft. He played in 28 games with the Varsity Blues over six seasons. In three games in 2018, Hallett recorded 13 tackles, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and one touchdown. In 2017, he led the Blues and ranked fourth in the OUA with 60 tackles, adding one sack, two fumble recoveries, one interception and five break ups.

LaChance (6-4, 260, University of Manitoba, November 11, 1993 in Winnipeg, MB) was selected in the sixth round, 52nd overall in last week's draft. He attended Vincent Massey Collegiate in Winnipeg and played for the Rifles before joining the University of Manitoba Bisons. He appeared in four games, recording four tackles, one sack, a tackle for a loss and two forced fumbles.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/10/bombers-sign-two-2019-draft-picks/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/10/bombers-sign-two-2019-draft-picks/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on May 11, 2019, 03:15:04 PM
Very interested to see both of these guys if/when TC starts. Lachance could develop into a very good ST?er and a bit of a Swiss Army knife on O or D.

Hallett, from what I?ve read is a very good all-around multi sport athlete. He has decent size and quickness that could make him another development project at Safety.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 13, 2019, 05:18:23 PM
BOMBERS ADD FOUR 2019 DRAFT CHOICES

WINNIPEG, MB., May 13, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed four of their 2019 CFL Draft selections, defensive lineman Connor Griffiths, offensive lineman Asotui Eli, running back Brady Oliveira and defensive back Kerfalla Exum?.

Griffiths
(6-4, 290, UBC, July 6, 1997 in Langley, BC) was selected 25th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft. He played 42 games with the Thunderbirds, recording 48 tackles and six sacks over four seasons. Griffiths was named a Canada West All Star in his senior year and was named to the 2018 East-West Bowl after amassing 17.5 total tackles and two sacks, adding another 5.5 tackles and a sack in two playoff games. Griffiths was also named an All-Canadian in 2017.

Eli (6-4, 315, University of Hawai'i, in Richmond, British Columbia) was selected 34th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft. He appeared in 36 games over three seasons with the Rainbow Warriors. A redshirt junior in 2018, Eli was a key member of the line that helped UH to its best rushing average (168.2) in 22 years in 2017 and recorded 22 knockdowns on the season. Eli was named to the pre-season Rimington Award watch list for the second straight year in 2017 and was also named the Polynesian College Football Player of the Year Watch List prior to the season.

Oliveira (5-10, 228, North Dakota, August 15, 1997 in Winnipeg, MB) was selected 14th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft. He played 42 games at North Dakota, recording 2,822 rushing yards and 22 touchdowns over four seasons. He earned All-Big-Sky Honours in 2016 and 2017, and was a Jon Cornish Award Finalist in 2019, given to the most outstanding Canadian player in collegiate football. His best season came in his final one at UND, recording 980 rushing yards on 161 attempts, with eight touchdowns in just 11 games.

Exum? (5-11, 188, University of Montreal, February 24, 1994 in Montreal, QC) was selected 70th overall in the 2019 CFL Draft. He played in 22 games over four seasons with the Carabins. In 2018, he registered 11 tackles, two pass breakups and two interceptions, one of which he returned for a touchdown.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/13/bombers-add-four-2019-draft-choices/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/13/bombers-add-four-2019-draft-choices/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 13, 2019, 05:32:03 PM
Bomber 2019 Draft picks:

Round 1, 4th overall: OL Drew Desjarlais, University of Windsor
Round 1, 5th overall: DE Jonathan Kongbo, University of Tennessee
Round 2, 14th overall: RB Brady Oliveira, University of North Dakota  - signed
Round 3, 25th overall: DL Connor Griffths, UBC  - signed
Round 4, 34th overall: C Asotui Eli, Hawaii  - signed
Round 5, 43rd overall: WR Malik Richards, Mount Allison
Round 6, 52nd overall: DL Tariq Lachance, Manitoba  - signed
Round 7, 61st overall: DB Nick Hallett, Toronto  - signed
Round 8, 70th overall: DB Kerfalla Emmanuel Exume, Montreal  - signed


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 14, 2019, 05:30:13 AM
Sean McGuire   @JohnnyMac_18  8 hours ago
Can't wait to start this next chapter of my life in Winnipeg! Let's get to work @Wpg_BlueBombers  #ForTheW

Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming  7 hours ago
Even if veterans Matt Nichols, Chris Streveler, and Bryan Bennett choose to not participate in rookie camp, it appears the #Bombers will have three quarterbacks to toss the pill. McGuire joins Kevin Anderson, and @GeeGeesFootball's @SawyerBuett on the @USPORTS_FB QB internship.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 14, 2019, 02:22:14 PM
Delroy Baker Jr.‏ @BigBake_71 54m54 minutes ago

I am excited to announce that I?ve been blessed to sign my first contract today to begin my Pro Football career with the @Wpg_BlueBombers in Canada!! Thanks to the organization for the opportunity to further my dreams!! God bless and Go Bombers #ForTheW


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2019, 02:27:03 PM
Delroy Baker Jr.‏ @BigBake_71 54m54 minutes ago

I am excited to announce that I?ve been blessed to sign my first contract today to begin my Pro Football career with the @Wpg_BlueBombers in Canada!! Thanks to the organization for the opportunity to further my dreams!! God bless and Go Bombers #ForTheW

Import OT.  I do wonder if this is the result of a deletion / no show: Briggs or Calhoun were the two rookie OL previously signed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 14, 2019, 03:01:13 PM
Mike Sawatzky @sawa14

Agent for #Bombers top pick, OL Drew Desjarlais, confirms his client has a private workout with the #NFLJets today and will probably decide shortly if he will sign with #Bombers. Fred Weinrauch says basics of a deal with Winnipeg have been worked out. #WFP


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2019, 03:27:09 PM
Mike Sawatzky @sawa14

Agent for #Bombers top pick, OL Drew Desjarlais, confirms his client has a private workout with the #NFLJets today and will probably decide shortly if he will sign with #Bombers. Fred Weinrauch says basics of a deal with Winnipeg have been worked out. #WFP

Hmmmm. Not the best news but still a good chance he's at TC. A deal in hand with possible signing bonus versus?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 14, 2019, 04:27:58 PM
Mike Sawatzky @sawa14

Agent for #Bombers top pick, OL Drew Desjarlais, confirms his client has a private workout with the #NFLJets today and will probably decide shortly if he will sign with #Bombers. Fred Weinrauch says basics of a deal with Winnipeg have been worked out. #WFP

Honestly, he's very likely to not be a starter for us this year so having him get a year's worth of NFL coaching would be a good thing for us.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: GCn19 on May 14, 2019, 04:36:46 PM
Honestly, he's very likely to not be a starter for us this year so having him get a year's worth of NFL coaching would be a good thing for us.

I totally agree. With Eli around now, we have no immediate need for Drew unless he potentially can beat out Neuf. If not, I just don't see how we fit everyone on the roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: NewBlue on May 14, 2019, 04:43:48 PM
Do we still have Gaitor for this season, or is he another guy from the secondary gone?
Also is the plan to have Fenner at WILL?  I think that's where he was last year....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 14, 2019, 04:50:48 PM
Do we still have Gaitor for this season, or is he another guy from the secondary gone?
Also is the plan to have Fenner at WILL?  I think that's where he was last year....

Gaitor is still here and the projected starter at SAM. Fenner is expected to compete for the SAM spot.

Santos-Knox was the WILL last year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: NewBlue on May 14, 2019, 05:28:59 PM
Thanks, I knew Fenner was at one of the LB spots. Wasn't Gaitor in the secondary all year?  I don't remember him at LB


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: NewBlue on May 14, 2019, 05:40:37 PM
Nevermind, I just read the positional thread and saw this as being discussed there.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 14, 2019, 06:06:14 PM
Rhetorical comment. Bombers expect to have a DI spot for a returner. That's a bit misleading since that could still be a DB that is a returner. Normally that's fallen more to a DB than a receiver as a DI in Winnipeg.

OTOH, this year we've signed some receivers that seem to fit the role as DI candidates. The flip side of that is that we signed and / or drafted many more Canadian DB's that may eliminate a DB as a DI choice this season.

Something to watch who is doing what in TC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 14, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
Rhetorical comment. Bombers expect to have a DI spot for a returner. That's a bit misleading since that could still be a DB that is a returner. Normally that's fallen more to a DB than a receiver as a DI in Winnipeg.

OTOH, this year we've signed some receivers that seem to fit the role as DI candidates. The flip side of that is that we signed and / or drafted many more Canadian DB's that may eliminate a DB as a DI choice this season.

Something to watch who is doing what in TC.

My DIs right now:
Medlock
Roh
Fenner
Nelson or Whitehead


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on May 14, 2019, 08:41:41 PM
My DIs right now:
Medlock
Roh
Fenner
Nelson or Whitehead

Sounds right. Possible Fenner is still a starter despite Ed Tait, in which case Humes is a likely DI


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on May 15, 2019, 04:07:55 AM
My DIs right now:
Medlock
Roh
Fenner
Nelson or Whitehead
Hmmm I'm not sure. I think a designated returner is a must this year. Have fresh legs returning kicks. Not sure about Fenner, only because we normally carried a DI at LB. Of course it all depends how the Wil spot shakes out.

Medlock is awesome but this is the nuisance of carrying an American kicker (the DI spot)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jesse on May 15, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Hmmm I'm not sure. I think a designated returner is a must this year. Have fresh legs returning kicks. Not sure about Fenner, only because we normally carried a DI at LB. Of course it all depends how the Wil spot shakes out.

Medlock is awesome but this is the nuisance of carrying an American kicker (the DI spot)

Nelson or whitehead would be the designated returner in this situation.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2019, 03:22:48 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO 2019 DRAFT SELECTIONS

WINNIPEG, MB., May 15, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed the two of their 2019 CFL Draft selections - offensive lineman Drew Desjarlais and receiver Malik Richards.

Desjarlais (6-2, 307, Windsor, April 24, 1997 in Belle River, ON) was selected fourth overall. He spent four seasons at Windsor, playing and starting 27 games over that time at both right and left guard.  He played for the West Team in the U SPORTS East-West Bowl last season and was named an OUA second-team all-star.

Richards (6-1, 195, Mount Allison University, in Brampton, ON) was selected 43rd overall. He appeared in 24 games over four seasons with the Mounties. In 2018, Richards caught 48 passes for 531 yards and three touchdowns, adding 18 rushes for 195 yards and two touchdowns on his way to being named an AUS all-star. Richards also played for the East Team in the 2018 U SPORTS East-West Bowl.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/15/bombers-add-two-2019-draft-selections/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/15/bombers-add-two-2019-draft-selections/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2019, 03:27:51 PM
Ed Tait  @EdTaitWFC  2 hours ago
The #Bombers get busy with signings before the opening of rookie camp today

Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
As I reported on Monday, the #Bombers have added quarterback @JohnnyMac_18. They've also added undrafted USask DB Payton Hall, a few other NCAA Internationals, and four Global players in G.Ortiz, M.Reyes, and S.Perez (Mexico), and T.Hansen (Germany).

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6nZXPbWAAAgbRz.png)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2019, 03:36:10 PM
Ted Wyman   @Ted_Wyman
Here is #Bombers rookie camp roster. 54 players, five QB's, 11 receivers, 15 defensive backs. Receiver and DB the two most competitive spots right now. #CFL

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6ncq_5WsAEDL0G.png)
        (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6ncs0eWkAIB0R8.png)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2019, 09:50:09 PM
Foketi and Derek Jones transferred to Injured Veteran as per CFL.CA I think this is more of a move to free up additional roster spots for a couple of rookies?

OTOH, Jones missed most of last year and might not be ready for early TC. Hopefully he'll be good to go shortly since he's the projected starter at safety.


Don't remember any injury to Foketi last year though?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 16, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Transactions May 15th:

2019-05-15   WPG   JONES, Derek   DB   N   Simon Fraser   Transfer To   Injured Veteran
2019-05-15   WPG   FOKETI, Manase   OL   N   West Texas A&M   Transfer To   Injured Veteran
2019-05-15   WPG   PETERS, Otha   LB   I   Louisiana At Lafayette   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-05-15   WPG   HUBERT, Chris   WR   I   Fayetteville State   Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   MCGUIRE, Sean      N      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   BAKER JR, Delroy      N      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   RICHARDS, Malik      N      Add From Draft   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   DESJARLAIS, Drew      N      Add From Draft   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   HERNANDEZ REYES, Manuel Eduardo   LB   I      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   SCHIAFFINO PEREZ, Sergio   DB   I      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPG   AMAVIZCA ORTIZ, Gabriel   K   I      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-15   WPGHANSEN, Thiadric   LB   I      Add To   Active Roster

Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
Rookie linebacker Otha Peters Jr failed his physical and has been released. The #Bombers will likely fill that roster spot with a new offensive lineman.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 17, 2019, 11:50:57 AM
Transactions May 16th:

2019-05-16   WPG   WILSON, Troy      N      Add To   Territorial Exemption
2019-05-16   WPG   URCIUOLI, Brandon      N      Add To   Territorial Exemption
2019-05-16   WPG   SNEESBY, Cole      N      Add To   Territorial Exemption


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 17, 2019, 12:55:37 PM
Foketi and Derek Jones transferred to Injured Veteran as per CFL.CA I think this is more of a move to free up additional roster spots for a couple of rookies?

OTOH, Jones missed most of last year and might not be ready for early TC. Hopefully he'll be good to go shortly since he's the projected starter at safety.


Don't remember any injury to Foketi last year though?

Foketi got his chance after Hardrick got injured last year. In his second game (the LDC) he got hurt and missed the rest of the year. Can't really remember the injury though. But yes, he was on the shelf for the back half of the year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 17, 2019, 01:18:19 PM
Foketi got his chance after Hardrick got injured last year. In his second game (the LDC) he got hurt and missed the rest of the year. Can't really remember the injury though. But yes, he was on the shelf for the back half of the year.

Ah. Well then the hope is that this won't carry over into main TC and the team is just allowing some extra time.

OTOH I was surprised earlier about the number of extra import OL coming to rookie camp and probably main TC. Might be covering their bases in case he won't be ready immediately.

Mind you there were suggestions that the team might need to start 3 import OL and he'd be ready to step in as that option. I took that inferred comment to mean at the beginning of the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 18, 2019, 12:42:36 PM
Transactions May 17th:

2019-05-17   WPG   KONGBO, Jonathan      N      Add From Draft   Active Roster
2019-05-17   WPG   KONGBO, Jonathan      N      Add From Draft   Draft
2019-05-17   WPG   SCHROT, Dylan      N      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-17   WPG   RICHARDS, Malik      N      Delete From Active   Free Agent


BOMBERS SIGN 5TH OVERALL SELECTION JONATHAN KONGBO


WINNIPEG, MB., May 17, 2019 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed their 5th overall selection from last month's CFL Draft, Tennessee defensive end Jonathan Kongbo.

Kongbo (6-5, 255, Tennessee, March 19, 1996 in Surrey, BC) played 30 games, starting 17, over three seasons with the Volunteers as a linebacker and defensive lineman. He totalled 51 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, two interceptions (including a 50-yarder returned for a touchdown), and two knockdowns. He won the 2018 John Stucky award as Tennessee's best performer in the weight room.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/17/bombers-sign-5th-overall-selection-jonathan-kongbo/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/17/bombers-sign-5th-overall-selection-jonathan-kongbo/)

ONE IN, ANOTHER OUT:


The Bombers lost WR Malik Richards, their fifth-round draft pick, to a leg injury on Thursday and it was serious enough to force the club to make another move. Richards was replaced on the roster by Dylan Schrot of the Manitoba Bisons. Schrot was a Canada West All-Star and a U Sports Second-team All-Canadian. In his two seasons with the Bisons he had 66 catches for 1,026 yards and six TDs.

"Dylan Schrot is a helluva good receiver. He had close to 850 yards if not a bit more last year, scored a pile of touchdowns. He's really good," said  O'Shea. "It's interesting because Matt and Strev have both thrown to him before as a guy that hung around and caught some balls for them to get some extra work. Those guys were right here available for our guys, so they already have a relationship with him. He's a hard worker and he deserves to be in a camp."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/17/rookie-camp-day-3-recap-3/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/17/rookie-camp-day-3-recap-3/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 18, 2019, 01:19:17 PM
Schrot seems like a pretty good prospect. I wonder why he didn't get drafted? Were there just that many other receivers that had higher rankings?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 18, 2019, 09:31:22 PM
WELCOME BACK
Starters from the 2018 West Final returning to camp:

Offence ( 8 ): QB Matt Nichols, RB Andrew Harris, WR Darvin Adams, SB Nic Demski, WR Drew Wolitarsky, LT Stanley Bryant, LG Patrick Neufeld, RT Jermarcus Hardrick

Defence (9): DE Jackson Jeffcoat, DT Drake Nevis, DT Brandin Bryant. LB Adam Bighill, LB Anthony Gaitor, LB Kyrie Wilson, DB Brandon Alexander, DB Marcus Sayles, DE Craig Roh

Specialists: K Justin Medlock, LS Chad Rempel

Other returnees: QB Chris Streveler, QB Bryan Bennett, FB Mike Miller, FB John Rush, SB Daniel Petermann, WR/KR Charles Nelson, WR Rashaun Simonise, OL Michael Couture, DT Jake Thomas, LB Chandler Fenner, LB Thomas Miles, LB Shayne Gauthier, LB Jesse Briggs, LB Kyrie Wilson, DB Abu Conteh, S Jeff Hecht.

Injured list at seasons end and returning: SB Kenbrell Thompkins, WR Corey Washington, CB Chris Humes, OL Cody Speller, OL Geoff Gray, S Derek Jones, OL Manase Foketi

Practice roster at season's end and returning: RB Johnny Augustine, DB Tyneil Cooper, DB Jacob Firlotte, DE Patrick Choudja


EXITED,STAGE LEFT


Players who dressed for last year's playoff games, but have since departed:

Offence: C Matthias Goossen (retired), RG Sukh Chungh (B.C.), SB Weston Dressler (unsigned), RB Kienan LaFrance (Saskatchewan), WR Ryan Lankford (Ottawa).

Defence: CB Chris Randle (Ottawa), CB Kevin Fogg (Toronto), S Taylor Loffler (Montreal), DB Brendan Morgan (unsigned), LB Ian Wild (Toronto), LB Frederic Plesius (unsigned), DE Tristan Okpalaugo (unsigned).

Injured at season's end and now departed: LB Jovan Santos-Knox (Edmonton), LB Maurice Leggett (unsigned), LB Frank Renaud (unsigned), DE Trent Corney (retired)

Practice roster at season's end and now departed: RB Timothy Flanders (unsigned), DE Gerald Rivers (unsigned), OL Qadr Spooner (Edmonton).


3 KEY VETERAN ADDITIONS

#5 Willie Jefferson, DE: The most disruptive defensive force in the entire league joins a Bombers defence that features the league's Most Outstanding Defensive Player in Adam Bighill.

#80 Chris Matthews, WR: A big target for Matt Nichols at 6-5, 230 and is another weapon for the CFL's highest-scoring offence.

#30 Winston Rose, CB: Joins his fourth CFL team after a stint on Toronto's practice roster in 2017, four games with Ottawa in 2017 and then 19 games with B.C. last season, including playoffs, with 18 starts.


KEY CAMP BATTLES

Field corner/boundary corner

The incumbent: left vacant by the exits of Chris Randle (Ottawa) and Kevin Fogg (Toronto).
The challengers: Chris Humes and Winston Rose are the leading candidates to replace, but there is a long list of others who first shone at the free-agent camp in Florida and then in rookie camp, including Joe Este, Christian Boutte, Mike Jones, Marcus Rios, Elijah Battle and Amari Coleman, along with Tyneil Cooper, who dressed for five games last year, making three starts.

Centre

The incumbent: left vacant with the retirement of Matthias Goossen.
The challengers: Michael Couture, Cody Speller, Tui Eli, Matthew Ouellet De Carlo. Couture and Speller are the front runners, having been groomed for the position over the last few years. Eli is a 2019 draft pick who, if he can regain his form from his days at Hawaii, may also eventually become a contender.

Right guard

The incumbent: vacant with the departure of Sukh Chungh (B.C.)
The challengers: Geoff Gray, Drew Desjarlais, Manase Foketi, Ben Koczwara, Matthew Ouellet De Carlo. The Bombers could opt to use three imports up front, with Foketi the leading candidate there, but the collection of Canadians - including Gray, a 2016 first-round pick, and Desjarlais, a 2019 first rounder - gives the club some intriguing options to keep it a homegrown spot.

Safety

The incumbent: vacant after Taylor Loffler left in free agency for Montreal.
The challengers: Derek Jones, Jeff Hecht, Dexter Janke, Abu Conteh, Nick Hallett, Kerfalla Exume, Payton Hall. Most figure this is Jones' job to lose, as the coaches have long raved about his athletic tool box. The veteran Hecht is an interesting option, as he consistently makes plays wherever he lines up on defence.

Weak-side linebacker

The incumbent: this is the old spot of Jovan Santos-Knox, who signed with Edmonton as a free agent this winter.
The challengers: Kyrie Wilson, Nick Temple, Jesse Briggs, Jacob Firlotte. Essentially a two-man race between Wilson and Temple. Wilson has the inside track, having filled in for Santos-Knox when the latter was injured during last year's playoff run.

Kick returner/Punt returner

The incumbents: both Kevin Fogg (Toronto) and Ryan Lankford (Ottawa) left in free agency.
The challengers: Lucky Whitehead, Charles Nelson, Nic Demski, Tyneil Cooper, Tim Wilson. Nelson flashed some skill last year and Demski was second to Fogg in punt-return yardage last year. Whitehead has already made a solid impression through the Florida camp and three days of rookie camp.


https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/17/training-camp-preview-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/17/training-camp-preview-2/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 19, 2019, 11:22:34 AM
Transactions May 18th:

2019-05-18   WPG   SANTIAGO, John      N      Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-18   WPG   MATTHEWS, Chris   WR   I   Kentucky   Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-18   WPG   SUTTON, Frank   OL   I   Louisiana At Monroe (NE)   Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-18   WPG   RICHARDSON, Steven   DL   I   Minnesota   Add To   Active Roster
2019-05-18   WPG   ROLLAND-JONES, Ja'Von   DL   I   Arkansas State   Delete From Active   Free Agent
2019-05-18   WPG   ANDERSON, Kevin   QB   I   Fordham   Delete From Active   Free Agent

* Chris Matthews' signing is official

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D626PxfWkAIF5-C.png)



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 19, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
Darrin Bauming, TSN.  @DarrinBauming
Good on the #Bombers for sending out a handy position chart at the onset of main camp.

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton
#Bombers reciever Kenbrell Thompkins has been suspended by the team after multiple attempts to contact him went unanswered this offseason.
#wfp

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D67tEa0W0AA-_Al.png)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 19, 2019, 01:16:03 PM
I wasn't sure Thompkins would be able to retain his roster position in 2019. Not because he was a bad player but because of the amount of new competition coming to TC.

Not reporting I didn't expect though.

If I counted correctly we have 92 players in TC. Obviously many non counters but that's a lot of bodies to look at.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: KINGCHARLES on May 19, 2019, 01:22:20 PM
I heard early reports that Winston Rose is compared as a young Chris Randle.....

I hope this Kongbo isnt another Corney/Waggoner, you know a guy with huge potetnial but never reaches it.

Drew Desjarlais is sounding like another Chung....where does he fit in? Can he make the roster as a 6th OL. Im projecting Bryant, Neufeld, Couture, Gray, Hardrick as our starting 5.

Simonse wants to prove he can be a star. I saw videos of him doing 40 yard dash sprints in as low as 4.47? for a 6'5 Canadian whos had a taste of NFL pre-season he has lots to prove.

went to rookie camp a few days ago and mostly watched offensive players.... WR Matt Hazel looked good. Nelson and Whitehead are interesting guys battling for 1 spot. Brady O looked good.
When watching one on ones most of the DB's looked like they should get cut.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 19, 2019, 03:37:15 PM
I heard early reports that Winston Rose is compared as a young Chris Randle.....

I hope this Kongbo isnt another Corney/Waggoner, you know a guy with huge potetnial but never reaches it.

Drew Desjarlais is sounding like another Chung....where does he fit in? Can he make the roster as a 6th OL. Im projecting Bryant, Neufeld, Couture, Gray, Hardrick as our starting 5.

Simonse wants to prove he can be a star. I saw videos of him doing 40 yard dash sprints in as low as 4.47? for a 6'5 Canadian whos had a taste of NFL pre-season he has lots to prove.

went to rookie camp a few days ago and mostly watched offensive players.... WR Matt Hazel looked good. Nelson and Whitehead are interesting guys battling for 1 spot. Brady O looked good.
When watching one on ones most of the DB's looked like they should get cut.


Keep the reports coming if you go to more practices. It's very interesting to hear any updates.

The enthusiasm is high about many imports and Canadians at their 1st TC. There may be some gems being found.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 19, 2019, 03:59:32 PM
I'm not proposing that Medlock is or should be on any sort of bubble this TC.

However if Ortiz shows well this could be an interesting question.

Medlock has a high salary while Ortiz is exempt from the SMS cap. Eliminating Medlock would potentially free up another DI spot since Ortiz is in his own classification.

With what we've been seeing with the lower than expected increase to the SMS, there may be some tough roster decisions to be made. Winnipeg may be in less hurt than some teams but might still have decisions to be made.

I don't know Medlocks salary but it has to be $100K+ and Ortiz will be zero against the cap.

OTOH Ortiz might start the season as the global player on the roster if he shows something. Perhaps he's a stronger punter or can kickoff deeper and / or better directional.

Again, it's not that Medlock can't do all of these things well but it will be something to watch.

SMS, age and roster flexibility come into play in every decision.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 19, 2019, 08:57:23 PM
I'm not proposing that Medlock is or should be on any sort of bubble this TC.

However if Ortiz shows well this could be an interesting question.

Medlock has a high salary while Ortiz is exempt from the SMS cap. Eliminating Medlock would potentially free up another DI spot since Ortiz is in his own classification.

With what we've been seeing with the lower than expected increase to the SMS, there may be some tough roster decisions to be made. Winnipeg may be in less hurt than some teams but might still have decisions to be made.

I don't know Medlocks salary but it has to be $100K+ and Ortiz will be zero against the cap.

OTOH Ortiz might start the season as the global player on the roster if he shows something. Perhaps he's a stronger punter or can kickoff deeper and / or better directional.

Again, it's not that Medlock can't do all of these things well but it will be something to watch.

SMS, age and roster flexibility come into play in every decision.



Medlock is in no danger of losing his job.  None.  Zero.  But getting a player in the global spot that can take some of the punting duties off his plate... that's be great.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 19, 2019, 09:28:59 PM
Medlock is in no danger of losing his job.  None.  Zero.  But getting a player in the global spot that can take some of the punting duties off his plate... that's be great.



There is no way anybody can say that it's zero. It might only be 0.5% but there is always a chance.

Are you telling me that if the new kicker showed he was equal to Medlock, 9 years younger and $180K less expensive, Medlock wouldn't be at risk?

The new kicker might last the 1st few days but what if he shows he has talent?

I think a greater probability is that the global player might also make the AR. But you can never say never.

Look at some of the talented but expensive players released in the last week or so.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 19, 2019, 09:59:49 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions - May 19, 2019

WINNIPEG, MB., May 19, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following player transactions:

Added to roster:
International running back John Santiago (UND)

Transferred to suspended:
International receiver Kenbrell Thompkins

Ted Wyman   @Ted_Wyman
#Bombers have released international receiver Josh Stewart after one day of training camp. Leaves them with 17 receivers still, 12 of which are internationals. #CFL

NOTES FROM CAMP | DAY 1 RECAP


HEAD COUNT:

The Bombers training camp roster features 93 names, not including the non-counters like the three Winnipeg Rifles players - LB Cole Sneesby, RB Brandon Urcluoli and DB Troy Wilson - and CFL/U Sports QB Apprentice Sawyer Buettner of the University of Ottawa.

The Bombers did make a couple of moves with their receiving corps on Sunday, suspending Kenbrell Thompkins and releasing Josh Stewart. Thompkins started 12 games for the club last year, but was suspended because management has not been able to contact him after repeated attempts.

The team also added RB John Santiago, who played his college ball at North Dakota alongside Bombers 2019 CFL Draft pick Brady Oliveira.  Santiago had rookie-camp looks from the Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons after rushing for more than 3,700 yards and 29 TDs in his four years at UND.

THE LOCALS:

Bombers training camp is loaded with local products who played their high school or college ball here: Andrew Harris, Oliveira, Nic Demski, Thomas Miles, Geoff Gray, Abu Conteh, DJ Lalama, Tariq Lachance and Dylan Schrot.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/19/notes-camp-day-1-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/19/notes-camp-day-1-recap/)

Transactions May 19th:

2019-05-19   WPG   STEWART, Josh   WR   I   Texas at San Antonio   Transfer To   Retired
2019-05-19   WPG   JONES, Derek   DB   N   Simon Fraser   Add From Injured Veteran   Active Roster
2019-05-19   WPG   THOMPKINS, Kenbrell   WR   I   Cincinnati   Transfer To   Suspended


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2019, 01:30:05 AM
There is no way anybody can say that it's zero. It might only be 0.5% but there is always a chance.

Are you telling me that if the new kicker showed he was equal to Medlock, 9 years younger and $180K less expensive, Medlock wouldn't be at risk?

The new kicker might last the 1st few days but what if he shows he has talent?

I think a greater probability is that the global player might also make the AR. But you can never say never.

Look at some of the talented but expensive players released in the last week or so.

I believe Global players can be kept around on the P.R. which would be the perfect solution as they do not have any backup to Medlock.  At least last year they had Lankford.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 20, 2019, 01:56:27 AM
#Bombers reciever Kenbrell Thompkins has been suspended by the team after multiple attempts to contact him went unanswered this offseason.

Well that's a weird one.  What if he's mad at the team for striking him from the roster right before the 2018 West Final?  I thought that was a weird move at the time.  Nelson didn't do any better.  In hindsight they should have let Thompkins play, as he did put in his dues all season long, and he was a known decent quantity.  Might have made some of those 2nd & longs with him in there.

This should have all the rookie WR IMPs getting excited, though, as their prospects for making the team just increased dramatically.

2019-05-19   WPG   JONES, Derek   DB   N   Simon Fraser   Add From Injured Veteran   Active Roster

Guess that answers the question of whether Jones will be healed up in time!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2019, 02:21:33 AM
"The team also added RB John Santiago, who played his college ball at North Dakota alongside Bombers 2019 CFL Draft pick Brady Oliveira.  Santiago had rookie-camp looks from the Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons after rushing for more than 3,700 yards and 29 TDs in his four years at UND."

I realize Santiago is a yuge underdog to make the team as a punt or kick returner but his highlight video is fantastic, real nose for the E.Z.  elusive and tough runner so I'm cheering for him, sorry Lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLJjTsExCvw&t=253s

A couple of advantages to signing him.

-good buddies with Oliveira, keep em happy!

-regional player along with Oliveira, Woli and Strev. which may attract a following down that way, a concept the Bombers should be exploring. Just need to bring back Dressler and grab Zylstra.

-playing close to home and not having much chance at an NFL career may lead to a long-term career with the Bombers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 20, 2019, 02:32:59 AM
I realize Santiago is a yuge underdog to make the team as a punt or kick returner but his highlight video is fantastic, real nose for the E.Z.  elusive and tough runner so I'm cheering for him, sorry Lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLJjTsExCvw&t=253s

Wow!  That run at 2:20 is epic.  I whooped out loud!  Only college, but still, hokey smokes.  He sure gets going North in a hurry.

We could use a speed back if we can get him on the field.  We sort of use Demski that way.  Santiago would be a great complement to our power back Harris.

However, we just never seem to have a GD spot for IMP speed RBs... unless he can be a stellar returner.  Then we could possibly slot him in.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 20, 2019, 02:54:37 AM
Wow!  That run at 2:20 is epic.  I whooped out loud!  Only college, but still, hokey smokes.  He sure gets going North in a hurry.

We could use a speed back if we can get him on the field.  We sort of use Demski that way.  Santiago would be a great complement to our power back Harris.

However, we just never seem to have a GD spot for IMP speed RBs... unless he can be a stellar returner.  Then we could possibly slot him in.


He'd have to make the team as a returner, no hope otherwise.  He had pretty good stats. at UND returning both punts and kickoffs.


2015 (Freshman): Earned STATS and Associated Press second team All-America honors as a running back ... Named Co-Big Sky Freshman of the Year and was a unanimous first team All-Big Sky selection ... Shared the FCS lead with nine 100-yard rushing games in regular-season play and was only running back in FCS football to rush for more than 100 yards in each of his conference games ... Started all 11 games and set UND's Division I record for rushing (1,459) and all-purpose yards (2,159; third most in the FCS in 2015) ... Averaged 6.5 yards per carry and led the Big Sky in rushing yards, all-purpose yards and rushing touchdowns (16) ... Rushed for 148 yards and two touchdowns in collegiate debut at Wyoming (Sept. 5) ... Had a 52-yard rushing touchdown in the win over the Cowboys ... Opened Big Sky play with 152 rushing yards and two touchdowns in win over UC Davis (Sept. 26) ...  Also had three kickoff returns for 94  yards against the Aggies ? Rushed for 111 yards in road win at No. 15 Portland State (Oct. 3) ? Accounted for a season-high 311 all-purpose yards vs. Idaho State (Oct. 17) ? Rushed for 155 yards against the Bengals and added four kickoff returns for 152 yards ? Opened the game at No. 19 Montana (Oct. 24) with an 80-yard touchdown run on first play from scrimmage ? Finished with 178 rushing yards, two receptions for 36 yards and 299 all-purpose yards against the Griz ? Rushed for a season-high 230 yards and three touchdowns, including a 75-yard scoring run in win over No. 19 Montana State (Oct. 31) ? Scored on a season-long 81-yard carry in home finale vs. Northern Colorado (Nov. 14) ? Averaged 16.5 ypc (12 for 180) in win over the Bears ? Closed out season by equaling season-high with three rushing touchdowns in win at Cal Poly (Nov. 21) ? Finished with his eighth-straight 100-yard game, rushing 27 times for 117 yards against the Mustangs.

2016 (Sophomore): Earned second team All-America honors as a return specialist from STATS and Hero Sports Network ... Named first team All-Big Sky as a running back and return specialist ... Became only sixth player in Big Sky history to earn back-to-back, first-team accolades as a freshm and sophomore ... Finished season with 983 rushing yards (5.4 ypc), 500 kickoff return yards (27.8 ypr) and 1,600 all-purpose yards ... Accounted for nine touchdowns, including a school-record equaling 100-yard kickoff return in home win over Weber State (Oct. 29) ... Registered four 100-yard rushing games, including a season-high 204-yard effort in road win at Northern Colorado (Nov. 5) ... Had 119 rushing yards and a 32-yard touchdown carry at Bowling Green (Sept. 10) ... Rushed for 140 yards and a touchdown, while also catching first touchdown pass of career in double-overtime victory over South Dakota (Sept. 17) ... Opened the first OT with a 25-yard touchdown run ... Had a season-high three catches for 37 yards and added 55 rushing yards and a touchdown in home win over Southern Utah (Oct. 15) ... Rushed 17 times for 60 yards and two touchdowns in comeback victory over Northern Arizona (Nov. 12) that clinched Big Sky title ... Earned second letter.

2017 (Junior): Collected All-America honors for the third-consecutive season, garnering Associated Press and Phil Steele first team accolades as an all-purpose player ... Also named to the STATS third team as an all-purpose player ... Led the FCS during the regular season with 1,780 all-purpose yards and was second with an 161.8 all-purpose yards per game average ... Named first team All-Big Sky at running back for the third-straight season ... Became just the fifth player in the 55-year history of the Big Sky Conference to earn a first-team accolade as a freshman, sophomore and junior at the same position ... Finished campaign with 970 rushing yards and a team-high five touchdowns, while adding 10 receptions for 93 yards ... Also added 766 kickoff returns yards (21.9 ypr) and 204 punt return yards (18.5 ypr), including a 64-yard return for a score at Portland State (Oct. 28) ... Led the Big Sky with a 6.0 yards per carry average ... Rushed for a season-high 170 yards and a touchdown on 13 carries at UC Davis (Sept. 30) ... Registered a season-long 81-yard carry against the Aggies en route to season-best 248 yard all-purpose yardage ouptut ... Added second 100-yard rushing game of the season and 15th of his career with 10-carry, 115-yard outing at Southern Utah (Nov. 4) ... Earned third letter.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 20, 2019, 12:56:27 PM
I believe Global players can be kept around on the P.R. which would be the perfect solution as they do not have any backup to Medlock.  At least last year they had Lankford.

We only have 4 global players to choose from. 1 goes on the AR 44 so it stands to reason that at least 1 needs to be on the PR in case he needs to be replaced due to injury.

Hansen was our highest pick so I'm thinking he makes the AR 44. Behind him I'd put the kicker as possible. The logic there is that the other 2 are LB / DB's and would have to show something astounding to beat out all the new Americans and Canadians at TC.

EDIT: Hernandez-Reyes is a 22 year old 6'2" 198 lb skinny kid. Sounds more suited to a position at DB than LB?  Perez is listed as a DB at 5'7", the shortest of all DB's in camp!!

It's really going to be enlightening to see how well the global players compete across the league.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 25, 2019, 09:40:00 PM
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international offensive lineman Jamar McGloster and Israel Helms.

McGloster (6-7, 329, Syracuse, June 1995, Newark, N.J.) Played in 30 games for the Syracuse Orange, including 24 consecutive starts at right tackle from 2016-17 and was on the field for 1,858 snaps over his last two seasons. McGloster went undrafted out of Baylor and signed with the Raiders in January.

Helms (6-5, 305, Wayne State University, June 18, 1997, Southfield, MI) started all his 11 games for the Wayne State Warriors as a big offensive tackle. Helms signed as an undrafted free agent with Tampa Bay following this year?s NFL Draft.

The team also announces the club has released international offensive lineman Frank Sutton and international defensive lineman Evan Perrizo.


A SHUFFLE IN THE TRENCHES:

The Bombers added two import offensive lineman Saturday in Jamar McGloster and Israel Helms, while releasing OL Frank Sutton and DL Evan Perrizo.

McGloster (6-7, 329, Syracuse) played 30 games for the Orange, making 24 consecutive starts at right tackle fro 2016-17. Undrafted, he signed with the Oakland Raiders in January before his release.

Helms (6-5, 305, Wayne State) started 11 games for the Warriors last year and was signed as an undrafted free agent by Tampa Bay after this year's NFL Draft before becoming available to the Bombers.

Additionally, the club has placed guard/tackle Manase Foketi  on the veteran exempt list. Foketi, who was expected to give the team the option to start three Americans on the OL, has not been in camp.

"They're guys we like that we wanted to take a look at that just became available," said head coach Mike O'Shea of McGloster and Helms. "There was a push by the NFL to sign some guys and bring them into camps and so when they become available is always hit and miss. We've got a couple of guys that are nicked up, too, so in order to practice efficiently and give the guys the appropriate amount of reps you've got to bring other guys in."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/25/notes-camp-day-7-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/25/notes-camp-day-7-recap/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 26, 2019, 09:44:41 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions - May 26, 2019

WINNIPEG, MB., May 26, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following player transactions:

Added to roster:
International defensive back Rannell Hall (UCF)
International offensive lineman Tanner Farmer (Nebraska)

Released from roster:
International offensive lineman Kendall Calhoun
International defensive back Christian Boutte


TWO ARRIVE, TWO DEPART:

The Bombers added a couple of new faces to the roster in import defensive back Rannell Hall and import OL Tanner Farmer while releasing OL Kendall Calhoun and DB Christian Boutte.

Hall (6-1, 200, Central Florida), was last with the Orlando Apollos of the Alliance of American Football after bouncing around the NFL with Tampa, Cleveland and Atlanta.

Farmer (6-4, 325, Nebraska) made 11 starts for the Cornhuskers in 2018, including three at guard and eight at center. He wasn't drafted this spring but did attend mini-camp with the Indianapolis Colts. Farmer won the Cornhusker Heart & Soul Award last year.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/26/notes-camp-day-8-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/05/26/notes-camp-day-8-recap/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 27, 2019, 12:06:10 AM
There is no way anybody can say that it's zero. It might only be 0.5% but there is always a chance.

Are you telling me that if the new kicker showed he was equal to Medlock, 9 years younger and $180K less expensive, Medlock wouldn't be at risk?

The new kicker might last the 1st few days but what if he shows he has talent?

I think a greater probability is that the global player might also make the AR. But you can never say never.

Look at some of the talented but expensive players released in the last week or so.


When it comes down to a kick to win a playoff game or a Cup....   who do u want kicking it?

I uderstand the saving money idea but when a season comes down to a 2 pointer i want a guy i pay well to do it.

We have a pretty solid team here and a good chance to win .....  it aint the right time to cheap out on a guy that has a leg to make it or break it.

As much as i never really agree with the Ard......   there is no way we get rid of Med. We need automatic 3s


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 27, 2019, 12:14:16 AM

When it comes down to a kick to win a playoff game or a Cup....   who do u want kicking it?

I uderstand the saving money idea but when a season comes down to a 2 pointer i want a guy i pay well to do it.

We have a pretty solid team here and a good chance to win .....  it aint the right time to cheap out on a guy that has a leg to make it or break it.

As much as i never really agree with the Ard......   there is no way we get rid of Med. We need automatic 3s


Agreed, at one time it looked like Lirim H. might become the equivalent of Medlock with a better passport, he's still a good kicker but he's not in Medlock's league when it comes down to reliability and consistency as his sophomore year demonstrated. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 28, 2019, 09:53:35 PM
Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
The #Bombers add national long snapper Zach Greenberg, release DB Rannell Hall. Greenberg played at Grant Park HS before heading to Minnesota-Crookston for his college ball

Transactions May 28th:
2019-05-28   WPG    HALL, Rannell   WR   I   Central Florida   Transfer To   Retired
2019-05-28   WPG    GREENBERG, Zach   LS   I   Minnesota Crookston   Add To   Active Roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 28, 2019, 11:44:21 PM
There is no way anybody can say that it's zero. It might only be 0.5% but there is always a chance.

Are you telling me that if the new kicker showed he was equal to Medlock, 9 years younger and $180K less expensive, Medlock wouldn't be at risk?

The new kicker might last the 1st few days but what if he shows he has talent?

I think a greater probability is that the global player might also make the AR. But you can never say never.

Look at some of the talented but expensive players released in the last week or so.

0% chance.  That is all.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: ModAdmin on May 29, 2019, 02:24:28 AM
After watching the new kicker and Medlock at training camp it seems pretty clear Medlock is in no danger of being replaced at least at this time.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on May 29, 2019, 03:56:14 AM
This Mexican invasion is really a bad idea.  Wasting time on someone with talent inferior to our high schoolers. This is an insult to Canadians.
If you want to legislate a job in the basis of race, this is a contradiction of the charter of Rights.
As has been mentioned before why not add a roster spot for a CDN quarterback, or reinstate the territorial picks

Ambrose has. Missed on this one.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 29, 2019, 12:57:02 PM
0% chance.  That is all.

0% chance of you not drinking blue koolaid all season. 

That is all? Quite the intelligent retort.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
No one is untouchable in football. Medlock is probably about as safe as it gets but nothing is ever guaranteed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: PurpleReign on May 29, 2019, 01:59:54 PM
0% chance.  That is all.

When it comes to sports, 0% chance never exists.  There is always an athlete around the corner that can be signed and take the job of a veteran.   Medlock is not some super being that can't be dethroned. Today it's about the salary cap and saving money.  If your talking about his competition at camp then I will agree with you because there ain't any.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 29, 2019, 02:26:00 PM
When it comes to sports, 0% chance never exists.  There is always an athlete around the corner that can be signed and take the job of a veteran.   Medlock is not some super being that can't be dethroned. Today it's about the salary cap and saving money.  If your talking about his competition at camp then I will agree with you because there ain't any.

It would have taken an exceptional performance by any new kicker to unseat Medlock in TC. For that matter it would also take a very good performance to win the global roster spot over the other candidates. At the moment the new kicker hasn't shown enough. At least according to some sparse TC reports.

I had suggested Hansen as a LB and our # 2 pick as having the best chance to make the roster. However the kicker could be the 2nd option to take on some of the workload and continue to develop for 2020?

The implications of the global SMS being exempt and being somewhat " outside " of the normal 4 DI's on the roster is interesting.

A global LB, DB or K on the roster could free up a DI normally on the roster as an American.

One of the global players will make the roster. Which or whether he's actually better than an American or even a Canadian will be determined. Seeing how they utilize the DI's will be interesting with the desire to add a dedicated returner.

O'Shea seems impressed with Hansen in particular. Maybe we get a better idea about our global players and in general around the CFL during pre season games.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 29, 2019, 04:12:01 PM
When it comes to sports, 0% chance never exists.  There is always an athlete around the corner that can be signed and take the job of a veteran.   Medlock is not some super being that can't be dethroned. Today it's about the salary cap and saving money.  If your talking about his competition at camp then I will agree with you because there ain't any.

Which is frankly unacceptable, last year they had Felix Menard-Briere in TC, a 4th round DP from the previous year who performed well but was cut and refused to take a PR spot where he could have developed further. 

Briere is currently showing very well at Rider TC but will likely be cut shortly due to the stiff competition he's facing. Time to scoop him back up and hold onto him by whatever means necessary so they have an injury replacement ready to go as well as a succession plan in place when they come to the point of making a decision on Medlock's future.  Ideally the next Bomber kicker will be a Natl. who can handle all kicking duties, Briere qualifies.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: rubanski on May 29, 2019, 04:30:06 PM
This Mexican invasion is really a bad idea.  Wasting time on someone with talent inferior to our high schoolers. This is an insult to Canadians.
If you want to legislate a job in the basis of race, this is a contradiction of the charter of Rights.
As has been mentioned before why not add a roster spot for a CDN quarterback, or reinstate the territorial picks

Ambrose has. Missed on this one.

They very quietly reintroduced the territorial picks for  two worst teams in the league. I believe MTL and TO had one each this draft at the end of the 2nd round.

They also allow a CDN qb to count against your needed non-import roster totals, so that's a start.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TBURGESS on May 29, 2019, 04:58:25 PM
They also allow a CDN qb to count against your needed non-import roster totals, so that's a start.
The Canuck QB only counts as an NI if he starts.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 29, 2019, 06:21:30 PM
Which is frankly unacceptable, last year they had Felix Menard-Briere in TC, a 4th round DP from the previous year who performed well but was cut and refused to take a PR spot where he could have developed further. 

Briere is currently showing very well at Rider TC but will likely be cut shortly due to the stiff competition he's facing. Time to scoop him back up and hold onto him by whatever means necessary so they have an injury replacement ready to go as well as a succession plan in place when they come to the point of making a decision on Medlock's future.  Ideally the next Bomber kicker will be a Natl. who can handle all kicking duties, Briere qualifies.


Getting him to take a PR spot in a city far from home might be tough... and you cannot AR him with Medlock. 

Any word on  Gabriel Amavizca-Ortiz?  With a global position as a free spot, might be a place to park a backup P/K...  still want to get Bartel designated a Global player to sit in that spot...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 29, 2019, 06:47:46 PM
Getting him to take a PR spot in a city far from home might be tough... and you cannot AR him with Medlock. 

Any word on  Gabriel Amavizca-Ortiz?  With a global position as a free spot, might be a place to park a backup P/K...  still want to get Bartel designated a Global player to sit in that spot...

Having 2 kickers on the AR is not that unusual. It was more the norm until recently. Whether Briere becomes available and of interest to us that's a different question.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on May 29, 2019, 07:33:50 PM
Having 2 kickers on the AR is not that unusual. It was more the norm until recently. Whether Briere becomes available and of interest to us that's a different question.

2Nat kickers on teh AR is normal... if you have an Int kicker, he better do both...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 29, 2019, 07:53:51 PM
Getting him to take a PR spot in a city far from home might be tough... and you cannot AR him with Medlock. 

Any word on  Gabriel Amavizca-Ortiz?  With a global position as a free spot, might be a place to park a backup P/K...  still want to get Bartel designated a Global player to sit in that spot...

When your teammates stop practice and applaud a successful 52 yd. FG attempt you know you're well over your head and they expect you to drown shortly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 29, 2019, 11:21:21 PM
After watching the new kicker and Medlock at training camp it seems pretty clear Medlock is in no danger of being replaced at least at this time.

Yup as sure a bet as there ever will be.  Thanks for your report.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Tiger on May 30, 2019, 01:51:58 AM
Does anyone have a link to training camp roster?  Apparently a cousins kid is trying out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 30, 2019, 02:11:53 AM
Does anyone have a link to training camp roster?  Apparently a cousins kid is trying out.

The TC roster is on the main bluebombers page or on CFL.CA. Except for a few territorial players everyone is listed?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 30, 2019, 02:29:48 AM
Does anyone have a link to training camp roster?  Apparently a cousins kid is trying out.
I think everyone has a cousin trying out as there is about 9 Winnipeggers in camp plus 3 Rifle players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on May 30, 2019, 04:55:55 PM
Preseason game one:

Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
Rasheed Bailey, Kenny Lawler, and Lucky Whitehead appear to be Friday's starting #Bombers receivers alongside Adams and Wolitarsky.

Amari Coleman and Jeff Hecht appear to be the guys in the secondary alongside Sayles, Alexander, and Fenner.

Centres are Michael Couture, Cody Speller, and Tui Eli. Looks like Drew Desjarlais and Geoff Gray are the starting guards. Delroy Baker Jr. and Jamar McGloster are at right tackle. #Bombers

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
Matt Nichols announces he will dress but not take any snaps Friday for the #Bombers

Darren Cameron   @Darren_Cameron
Lineup change: Left tackle Stanley Bryant will not dress tonight vs Edmonton.

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 31, 2019, 06:36:42 PM
based upon the above, would one believe that Corey Washington has won a starting spot already at receiver?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on May 31, 2019, 06:44:46 PM
he's injured at moment...with what unsure hence not on the roster..The open spot from what i seen/heard appears to be Bailey..Washington and Lawler in that order...Lucky and Nelson battling for the DI returner/extra receiver spot

For what it's worth Washington was looking really smooth and polished....but you get hurt...you risk a lot....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 31, 2019, 09:04:31 PM
he's injured at moment...with what unsure hence not on the roster..The open spot from what i seen/heard appears to be Bailey..Washington and Lawler in that order...Lucky and Nelson battling for the DI returner/extra receiver spot

For what it's worth Washington was looking really smooth and polished....but you get hurt...you risk a lot....

thanks for the update, booch... I've been a bit hit and miss lately dealing with other priorities and hadn't seen that he got hurt... but you're right, now isn't the time to be coming up lame with the number of people we currently have acting like they want the position... nice position to be in as a team, not so much if you're the unlucky one to suffer an injury...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on May 31, 2019, 11:17:53 PM
thanks for the update, booch... I've been a bit hit and miss lately dealing with other priorities and hadn't seen that he got hurt... but you're right, now isn't the time to be coming up lame with the number of people we currently have acting like they want the position... nice position to be in as a team, not so much if you're the unlucky one to suffer an injury...

I think he's shown enough from last year in practice and this year's TC to not being at risk of an outright release. He seems to have a good attitude and shown well as a receiver.

Depending on his injury he may end up on 1 game IR or be shifted to the PR until he can compete again in practice.

We're bound to have a couple of receivers on the PR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 01, 2019, 06:07:17 AM
I think he's shown enough from last year in practice and this year's TC to not being at risk of an outright release. He seems to have a good attitude and shown well as a receiver.

Depending on his injury he may end up on 1 game IR or be shifted to the PR until he can compete again in practice.

We're bound to have a couple of receivers on the PR.

after watching the game this evening, I don't think missing this game really hurt his chance to make the team... hopefully the injury isn't to significant and he can possibly play in the next pre season game as I'd like to see how he does against players other than our own...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on June 01, 2019, 12:33:28 PM
I don?t think anyone hurt Washington?s chance IMO the import receivers played poorly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 01, 2019, 01:44:05 PM
I don?t think anyone hurt Washington?s chance IMO the import receivers played poorly.

It did seem that the receivers played poorly but maybe not. Rookie OL, RB's didn't make QB's efforts easy and they struggled. Receivers may have been running well, getting open and not seen or hit by QB's.

There were too many drops but listening on radio didn't help me tell whether they would have been easy or difficult receptions.

That said, not much success may have been very telling to coaches.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on June 01, 2019, 03:08:27 PM
Kenny Walker looked good. Got himself open and caught the ball.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 01, 2019, 04:12:10 PM
Kenny Walker looked good. Got himself open and caught the ball.

That's the point. The rookies may have been running great routes, working hard and executing very well. The fact that QB's didn't connect doesn't always mean they were ineffective. It just sounded that way on the radio. What it looked like in the stands might be a different story.

Chemistry with 3 QB's and 15 or more receivers, mostly rookies,  is going to look bad in pre season.

Game 2 will be more telling as they thin the herd.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 01, 2019, 04:45:35 PM
Kenny Walker looked good. Got himself open and caught the ball.

agree


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: the paw on June 01, 2019, 04:50:34 PM
There were a number of late throws by QBs, but the receivers put 4-5 perfectly catchable balls on the ground.  There should be 1 or 2.

Having said that, Lawler looked the best to me last night.  

I think over a larger sample, Whitehead would be the most exciting returner with the most big plays.  But his style is crazy-making, and he gets away with it because he is just that fast.

Bennett looked pretty good, and Streveler looked limited.  He made a couple of completions around 8 yds, but his longer balls were rainbows.  I hope we keep both of them though.

I put the binocs on the interior of the o-line for a full quarter and a half. Desjarlais, Couture, and Gray all looked fairly solid.  They didn?t exactly rip holes for the run game, but with 2 unknowns at OT, I thought the lads looked good enough that we will go all Canadian in the interior.

Lots of talent in the secondary, but I never got around to putting the iso-cam on safety, so I am not sure how that looks.

Fatboi was in heavy rotation last night, he may dodge the bullet again.  Max Forde better understand that to be The Man, you gotta beat The Man...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 01, 2019, 05:36:53 PM
The OL may have provided some answers but they were playing against a defense entirely of rookies as well. No reason to be concerned and things will improve once the 3 starters are re-inserted into the lineup.

Would have to guess that Gray and Desjarlais make the roster but one might be on the 2 man DR. I was expecting Eli to be another candidate on the 2 man. Don't think we can risk putting him on the PR.

The biggest question is whether Speller is ahead of behind any of those 3.

I wasn't really expecting Koczwara or Ouellet De Carlo to be ahead of those 4. That's just an opinion though. Might see one on the PR.

Regarding the DL: There might be room on the game day roster for 2 Canadian DL. We didn't do that for most of 2018 though. There are 20 DB's, LB's and DL on the roster. 7 rookies and 3 players picked up in free agency: Forde, Janke and Lalama.

The balancing act between the needed specific ST roles, back ups and protecting draft choices is going to be interesting once again.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: NewBlue on June 02, 2019, 04:57:58 PM
Trying to figure out some roster stuff...do we still have to have 21 Nationals (7 starters), and a max of 20 INT (4 DI), and a 10 player PR?

I know there has been confusion with the global players and where they fit in the roster shuffle, but are there any known rules for them?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on June 02, 2019, 11:11:59 PM
I thought most of the. bombers. Looked solid.  Unfortunately, offensively nit a lot of outstanding plays, but no overt disasters.  Defensively, i thought the defence  dominated, but they were not exactly playing the. Number one Esks offence.

I think the coaches saw the players under game conditions and saw how they would perform, which I am sure they were content with.  The problem is, i don't think a lot of people distinguished themselves, other than being good players! Lol!

Need more  action under fire.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Ridermania on June 03, 2019, 11:20:16 AM
Rannell Hall WR was placed on the retired list, did he have a shot on making the Bombers?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: NewBlue on June 03, 2019, 11:32:36 AM
Rannell Hall WR was placed on the retired list, did he have a shot on making the Bombers?

Outside chance, along with 10 other WR imports...many of whom were getting high praise from the team/media/fans


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 03, 2019, 01:14:14 PM
Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
#Bombers cut six - no vets. Ouellet de Carlo and Koczwara are both former draft picks (non-2019), and Hall an undrafted Canadian.

Blue Bombers Transactions - June 3, 2019

WINNIPEG, MB., June 3, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the team has released the following players:

    International offensive lineman Chauncey Briggs
    National offensive lineman Matthew Ouellet De Carlo
    National offensive lineman Ben Koczwara
    International receiver Chris Hubert
    International receiver Garrett Johnson
    National defensive back Payton Hall


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 03, 2019, 01:20:54 PM
Rannell Hall WR was placed on the retired list, did he have a shot on making the Bombers?

He was signed May 26th and placed on the retired list on May 28th. Who knows what happened. Maybe he had one practice and saw how stiff the competition was and decided to go home.  Officially he was released by the team and the Bombers had him listed as a DB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 03, 2019, 02:16:06 PM
Mike Sawatzky‏ @sawa14

The #Bombers have released six players from their training camp roster, including: American OL Chauncey Briggs, Canadian OL Matthew Ouellet De Carlo and Ben Koczwara, American WRs Chris Hubert and Garrett Johnson and Canadian DB Payton Hall. #WFP


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 03, 2019, 05:51:15 PM
I remember people being excited about Garrett Johnson when signed, I'd forgotten all about him... did he even get in the game the other day, I don't recall seeing him or hearing his name being called...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on June 03, 2019, 07:21:02 PM
Don't remember his name being called.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 03, 2019, 08:55:26 PM
I remember people being excited about Garrett Johnson when signed, I'd forgotten all about him... did he even get in the game the other day, I don't recall seeing him or hearing his name being called...
He played. #77. American receivers in the 70s normally don't last long. Hubert was #72


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 04, 2019, 05:48:47 PM
He played. #77. American receivers in the 70s normally don't last long. Hubert was #72

You do realize we had 100 plays in TC and not everybody can get the number they want. Also many players change numbers after final cuts.

During one of the pre season broadcasts they mentioned that " high number " comment was mentioned to a rookie with a high number, many years ago.

Turned out to be Bashir Levingston who changed his number after final cuts and became a star in Toronto.

Pre season jersey numbers for rookies don't mean squat.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 04, 2019, 08:35:36 PM
You do realize we had 100 plays in TC and not everybody can get the number they want. Also many players change numbers after final cuts.

During one of the pre season broadcasts they mentioned that " high number " comment was mentioned to a rookie with a high number, many years ago.

Turned out to be Bashir Levingston who changed his number after final cuts and became a star in Toronto.

Pre season jersey numbers for rookies don't mean squat.
Okay but from what I remember we haven't had a 70 something receiver make the team in awhile. If course it doesn't mean they automatically don't make the team (it's a number) but normally our 70's are Rifles players, Global and random WRs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 04, 2019, 11:38:29 PM
You do realize we had 100 plays in TC and not everybody can get the number they want. Also many players change numbers after final cuts.

During one of the pre season broadcasts they mentioned that " high number " comment was mentioned to a rookie with a high number, many years ago.

Turned out to be Bashir Levingston who changed his number after final cuts and became a star in Toronto.

Pre season jersey numbers for rookies don't mean squat.

And some of them have to share. 21, 27 and 57 were all issued to two players at the same time during camp.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 04, 2019, 11:41:19 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions - June 4, 2019

WINNIPEG, MB., June 4, 2019 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the team has released the following players:

    National defensive back Abu Conteh


Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
#Bombers release 2017 23rd-overall draft pick Abu Conteh. When selected, the Winnipeg-native was described as a raw athlete project.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Knocker42 on June 05, 2019, 12:41:18 AM
Superb article by Doug Brown in Wednesday's Free Press.  He expresses very clearly why we should all be concerned about Streveler's development and his "discomfort" in the pocket.  Those who are in the "Streveler should be the starter " camp will hate it but he makes several great points..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 05, 2019, 01:37:52 AM
Superb article by Doug Brown in Wednesday's Free Press.  He expresses very clearly why we should all be concerned about Streveler's development and his "discomfort" in the pocket.  Those who are in the "Streveler should be the starter " camp will hate it but he makes several great points..

But I thought he should already be the starter and that he is >>>>> Nichols LOL


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 05, 2019, 02:26:13 AM
Superb article by Doug Brown in Wednesday's Free Press.  He expresses very clearly why we should all be concerned about Streveler's development and his "discomfort" in the pocket.  Those who are in the "Streveler should be the starter " camp will hate it but he makes several great points..

when was the last time that you heard anyone here say that Streveler should be the starter? Outside of a few weeks after the season ended last year I don't recall anyone saying such... and after the WF loss, it wasn't necessarily unwarranted...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on June 05, 2019, 02:54:41 AM
Nichols had four or five bad games last year and Streveler was playing pretty good for a raw rookie with half of a TC. Many people in Winnipeg felt that Streveler should have playing more in those games. However as the teams starting QB. not so much. Maybe more time on the field when Nichols can't get things going.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 05, 2019, 03:12:51 AM
Nichols had four or five bad games last year and Streveler was playing pretty good for a raw rookie with half of a TC. Many people in Winnipeg felt that Streveler should have playing more in those games. However as the teams starting QB. not so much. Maybe more time on the field when Nichols can't get things going.

so did quite a few members of this forum did as well last year during 'the struggle'... however, many of them have seem to forgotten that...  ;D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Pigskin on June 05, 2019, 03:21:21 AM
No has forgotten. The Winnipeg fans know that MOS is starting Nichols no matter what. It's a new year and many are hoping that his troubles are behind him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 05, 2019, 04:02:41 AM
No has forgotten. The Winnipeg fans know that MOS is starting Nichols no matter what. It's a new year and many are hoping that his troubles are behind him.

which is the right/smart move by MOS...  but I hope that MOS' tendency to be loyal to a fault and his feelings of the amount of playing time a #2 QB should get doesn't come back to bite next year...

I think that regardless of how Nichols play this year they need to find some significant (a few series a game) playing time for Streveler, or Bennett for that matter, other than short yardage packages, in order to make the best decision moving into the 2020 season... they need to see if Streveler is indeed 'it' and for the future or risk losing him in free agency as I don't think will want to sign about contract here at #2 pay when he probably feels that there would be a chance to sign with someone else that would offer him a #1 role...

Nichols is 32 this year, less than swift on his feet, was injured and missed games in each of the last 2 seasons, and coming off a less than stellar season... not to say that Nichols might not have several more years left in him, but, at some point you have to think about 2 years down the road, or 3 years...

unless Nichols is having a stellar year I think we need to find out if either Streveler or Bennett has what it takes to actually be our future QB instead of risk losing them to free agency... OR, we let Nichols go and find out that Streveler is in reality no different than the long list of other #2 that showed great potential early and then faded into obscurity in years 2 and 3...

I'd rather that decision be an informed decision rather than a gut feel regardless of stays or who goes... but the reality of it is, no matter which way they go it's always a crap shoot, lol...



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 05, 2019, 09:44:40 PM
Rosters for pre-season game 2:

Ted Wyman   @Ted_Wyman
As expected, #Bombers veteran defenders like Willie Jefferson, Adam Bighill, Marcus Sayles, Brandon Alexander, Jackson Jeffcoat are all sitting out Thursday's final #CFL pre-season tilt at #Riders. Looks like many projected starters on offence will play.

Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
Notables not dressing for the #Bombers

D: Bighill, Jefferson, Jeffcoat, Nevis, Thomas, Sayles, Gaitor, Alexander

O: Matthews, Demski, Washington, Nelson, Miller, Neufeld, Hardrick

Sp: Rempel, Medlock

No Winston Rose either for the #Bombers. Rose is projected to start at boundary corner - Chris Randle's former spot. Rose has been hampered by something for nearly two weeks, keeping him from practicing or playing.

Ted Wyman   @Ted_Wyman
Justin Medlock not on roster for #Bombers, meaning global player Gabriel Ortiz will get a chance to handle all of the kicking in final pre-season game at #Riders. #CFL

Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
Technically no "depth" chart from the #Bombers for this final preseason tune-up vs the #Riders, so here's what I see Winnipeg's starting lineup to likely be. I would expect the bulk of these guys to get about a half of work - with veterans being the possible exception.

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 05, 2019, 09:47:26 PM
Riders are going to be missing some of their top talent as well. A few have been nicked in TC and not practicing. Elimimian for example didn't participate in their 1st game.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on June 06, 2019, 12:38:05 PM
he hasn't participated in camp at all yet


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 07, 2019, 07:26:37 PM
Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton
The #Bombers have already started to make some moves ahead of Saturday's roster cutdown, including releasing DB Malik Boynton. A talented - and young, at just 22 y.o. -- player who you'll likely see pop up again sometime down the road. Some more tough decisions on the horizon.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 07, 2019, 07:29:02 PM
Russ Hobson   @russ_sportsguy
#Bombers release 6 players including DB Malik Boynton, DB Jacob Firlotte, Rec Tim Wilson, DB Elijah Battle, OL Delroy Baker and OL Israel Helms.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8fEzLIUwAA_vOj.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 07, 2019, 07:56:18 PM
Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton
The #Bombers have already started to make some moves ahead of Saturday's roster cutdown, including releasing DB Malik Boynton. A talented - and young, at just 22 y.o. -- player who you'll likely see pop up again sometime down the road. Some more tough decisions on the horizon.
Really dislike this cut


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 07, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
Russ Hobson   @russ_sportsguy
#Bombers release 6 players including DB Malik Boynton, DB Jacob Firlotte, Rec Tim Wilson, DB Elijah Battle, OL Delroy Baker and OL Israel Helms.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8fEzLIUwAA_vOj.jpg)
Too bad about Boynton. Imo he was better than Cooper, Este and Coleman.

The rest were meh. Firlotte was intriguing


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 07, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Too bad about Boynton. Imo he was better than Cooper, Este and Coleman.

The rest were meh. Firlotte was intriguing

They're getting razor thin in the D-backfield for Natl's., I expect they're moving towards an all American formation by next year.  If they need to balance the ratio it will be along the D-line in the future.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 07, 2019, 08:22:46 PM
They're getting razor thin in the D-backfield for Natl's., I expect they're moving towards an all American formation by next year.  If they need to balance the ratio it will be along the D-line in the future.
Still have 4 Canadian safety's


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 07, 2019, 08:39:03 PM
Still have 4 Canadian safety's

Still have 5


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 07, 2019, 08:40:14 PM
Still have 5
I didn't count Janke or Rifles kid


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 07, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
I didn't count Janke or Rifles kid

Why not count Janke?  He's similar in size / weight to several other of our candidates and to Loffler.

I'm not entirely convinced he makes the roster but that goes for 4 of the 5 left. Jones was the projected starter but it could be just about any of the remaining 4 that survive the cuts.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 07, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
Why not count Janke?  He's similar in size / weight to several other of our candidates and to Loffler.

I'm not entirely convinced he makes the roster but that goes for 4 of the 5 left. Jones was the projected starter but it could be just about any of the remaining 4 that survive the cuts.
I think hes a safety like Rush is a full back. Hes a converted RB


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 07, 2019, 08:53:29 PM
I think hes a safety like Rush is a full back. Hes a converted RB

Lots of players convert from offense to defense or vice versa. I wouldn't rule a player out because of what he played in university.

That doesn't mean you are incorrect and I'm not sure if he's had any reps in TC at safety. For that matter I don't think he got any reps at LB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 07, 2019, 09:04:00 PM
I think hes a safety like Rush is a full back. Hes a converted RB

Code for ST'er, O'Shea is not known for converting players to different positions.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 07, 2019, 09:10:22 PM
Code for ST'er, O'Shea is not known for converting players to different positions.

Rush has had reps at FB. None on defense as far as I can see.

Either way I think Janke might be hard pressed to make the roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RebusRankin on June 07, 2019, 09:29:35 PM
They're getting razor thin in the D-backfield for Natl's., I expect they're moving towards an all American formation by next year.  If they need to balance the ratio it will be along the D-line in the future.

Kongbo/Griffith/Thomas DL rotation? Could see it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 01:02:34 PM
I see on CFL.CA that teams CAN add max 2 global players to the PR making the total 12 instead of 10.

Since only 4 globals attended each TC, 2 seems excessive. I had said earlier it made sense to add 1 additional player to cover an injury to the mandatory AR player.

Not sure if the PR players are also SMS exempt.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Knocker42 on June 08, 2019, 02:39:14 PM
Hearing, unconfirmed, that Bombers cut Simonise this morning.  Some will not like this move but he looked disinterested to me in practice this season.  Maybe he saw the writing on the wall but Peterson looked much more energetic and more competent.
Too bad if true, because, at one time I thought Simonise was a real diamond in the rough but he didn't seem to improve.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RebusRankin on June 08, 2019, 02:43:26 PM
Shocked about Simonise just due to how we're using the ratio.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
I see on CFL.CA that teams CAN add max 2 global players to the PR making the total 12 instead of 10.

Since only 4 globals attended each TC, 2 seems excessive. I had said earlier it made sense to add 1 additional player to cover an injury to the mandatory AR player.

Not sure if the PR players are also SMS exempt.

Isn't there going to be 2 Global players on the active roster next season? It makes sense to develope potential players on the practice roster for those positions.

Also, is the Global AR position mandatory? Can a team elect to go without one?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 08, 2019, 03:08:25 PM
Shocked about Simonise just due to how we're using the ratio.
Schrots spot?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
Isn't there going to be 2 Global players on the active roster next season? It makes sense to develope potential players on the practice roster for those positions.

Also, is the Global AR position mandatory? Can a team elect to go without one?

It's mandatory on the AR as far as I know.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 08, 2019, 03:50:13 PM
So we have 2 players from 2016-2017 and 2017-2018 draft left


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: DM83 on June 08, 2019, 04:16:24 PM
Simonese, He never got much of game time opportunity.  But still ya have to bide your time .  Tough break


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 05:54:27 PM
So we have 2 players from 2016-2017 and 2017-2018 draft left

Normal in the CFL. IIRC we only had 20 players going into TC that have been with the team longer than 1 season.

With going back to NFL option clause and 1 year contracts we'll see some additional activity in the years to come.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 08, 2019, 06:03:04 PM
Normal in the CFL. IIRC we only had 20 players going into TC that have been with the team longer than 1 season.

With going back to NFL option clause and 1 year contracts we'll see some additional activity in the years to come.
I'd say its still pretty crazy. Not sure if other teams have the same number but if it's a team like Sask or Montreal, do we really wanna be compared to them


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue newt on June 08, 2019, 06:48:26 PM
Lucky Whitehead just tweeted that he's "official".  Assume that means he made the team. 

 
@Luck2fastt
Lucky 7?s 🎰 officially official! #ForTheW

12:42 PM - 8 Jun 2019 from Winnipeg, Manitoba


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 06:51:37 PM
I'd say its still pretty crazy. Not sure if other teams have the same number but if it's a team like Sask or Montreal, do we really wanna be compared to them

All the teams in the west went through massive roster changes during free agency and NFL option days.

I think the Lions had about 25 changes before TC started. Ditto for the Bombers. Stamps lost half their starting defense and some receivers.

That includes some retirements etc from the season ending roster of around 60 players per team when PR's are included.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 08, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
All the teams in the west went through massive roster changes during free agency and NFL option days.

I think the Lions had about 25 changes before TC started. Ditto for the Bombers. Stamps lost half their starting defense and some receivers.
I'm talking about draft picks


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 06:54:50 PM
I'm talking about draft picks

Not sure about draft picks but when you only have around 20 players here longer than 1 year, then many of the draft picks are also gone as well.

It's happening with all the teams. It's not like the old days where more players stayed put longer.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
BLUE BOMBERS TRANSACTIONS

WINNIPEG, MB., June 8, 2019 ?   The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the following transactions.

The following players have been released from the roster:

International quarterback Bryan Bennett
International defensive lineman Brandin Bryant
International defensive lineman Alex McCalister
International defensive back Amari Coleman
International defensive back Tyneil Cooper
International defensive back Joe Este
International running back Larry Rose
International running back John Santiago
International offensive lineman Tanner Farmer
International receiver Corey Washington
International receiver Matt Hazel
National receiver Dylan Schrot
National receiver Rashaun Simonise
National defensive lineman Maxx Forde
National defensive lineman Tariq Lachance
National long snapper Zach Greenberg
International kicker Gabriel Amavizca-Ortiz
 

The following players have been placed on the practice roster:

National offensive lineman Asotui Eli
National defensive lineman Connor Griffiths
National running back Johnny Augustine
International defensive back Mike Jones
International defensive back Marcus Rios
International defensive back Chris Humes
International defensive end Patrick Choudja
International receiver Kenny Walker
International linebacker Dale Warren
International defensive back Sergio Schiaffino-Perez
International linebacker Manuel Hernandez-Reyes

The following players have been placed on the retired list:

International offensive lineman Manase Foketi
 
The club's injured lists will be announced the day before next week's season opener at BC.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/06/08/blue-bombers-transactions-3/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/06/08/blue-bombers-transactions-3/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on June 08, 2019, 08:55:31 PM
Kind of makes you think Simonise "may" have had another issue/red flag, the raw skill and body type was certainly there


On a different note, wouldn't it be something to see Strev vs. Bennett at the Banjo Bowl ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2019, 09:06:44 PM
45-MAN ROSTER SET AHEAD OF OPENING WEEK

It is a process that is two parts headache and one part heartache for Mike O'Shea and the rest of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers coaching staff, but they have slogged through the necessary evil that is cutdown day. In advance of Saturday night's roster deadline, the Bombers announced the release of 17 players, while another 11 were cut and then added to the practice roster.

Released after a competitive training camp that included a pair of wins in two preseason games were:
(*Indicates Canadian)

Quarterback Bryan Bennett
Defensive linemen Brandin Bryant, Alex McCalister, Maxx Forde*, Tariq Lachance*
Defensive backs Amari Coleman, Tyneil Cooper, Joe Este
Running backs Larry Rose III, John Santiago
Offensive lineman Tanner Farmer
Receivers Corey Washington, Matt Hazel, Rashaun Simonise*, Dylan Schrot*
Long-snapper Zach Greenberg*
Kicker Gabriel Amavizca-Ortiz

The 11 players placed on the practice roster were:

Centre Tui Eli*
Defensive tackle Connor Griffiths*
Running back Johnny Augustine*
Defensive backs Mike Jones, Marcus Rios, Chris Humes, Sergio Schiaffino-Perez
Defensive end Patrick Choudja
Receiver Kenny Walker
Linebacker Dale Warren, Manuel Hernandez-Reyes

As well, import offensive lineman Manase Foketi was placed on the retired list.

FYI, the 45-man roster is to include 21 nationals, 20 internationals, three quarterbacks and one global player. The practice rosters can feature up to 10 players, plus a maximum of two global players. The injured lists won't officially be announced until Friday, the day before the Bombers open their 2019 season in Vancouver against the B.C. Lions.

The list of those released outright was topped by Bennett, who served as the third-string pivot last year and had an excellent camp. The third-Thursday's preseason win in Regina.

The other 'name' cuts included Simonise, who was the club's first pick (12th overall) in the 2018 CFL Draft and defensive tackle Brandin Bryant.

The Bombers plan to start two Canadians at receiver in Drew Wolitarsky and Nic Demski, and Daniel Petermann (selected 14 spots after Simonise last year) has morphed into a reliable target.

Bryant, who dressed for 10 games a year ago and made nine starts, appears to have lost his job to Steven Richardson - the fire-hydrant-type tackle nicknamed 'Stove' during his college days at Minnesota. As well, the team is still contemplating starting Jake Thomas at tackle alongside Drake Nevis as one of the seven Canadian starters.

Also notable from the moves Saturday:

- Two players who made at least one start were released in Corey Washington (three starts) and Tyneil Cooper (five games played).

- Tariq Lachance, a sixth-round pick this year, was released. Of the club's nine 2019 draft picks, seven are on the squad or practice roster: OL Drew Desjarlais (1st round, 4th overall); DL Jonathan Kongbo (1/5); RB Brady Oliveira (2/14); DL Connor Griffiths (3/25); OL Tui Eli (4/34); DB Nick Hallett (7/61), and DB Kerfalla Exume (8/70).

Receiver Malik Richards, a fifth-round pick, was released in rookie camp after suffering a leg injury and was signed by the Edmonton Eskimos.

In addition to McGuire, Richardson and the draft picks mentioned above, the other new faces on the team or practice roster include receivers Chris Matthews (who returns after a stint in the NFL and with Calgary last fall), Lucky Whitehea,, Kenny Lawler, Rasheed Bailey and Kenny Walker; offensive lineman Jamar McGloster; defensive ends Willie Jefferson and Patrick Choudja; linebackers DJ Lalama, Nick Temple, Thiadric Hansen, Dale Warren and Manuel Hernandez-Reyes; and defensive backs Winston Rose, Dexter Janke, Mike Jones, Marcus Rios, Chris Humes and Sergio Schiaffino-Perez.

Understanding that a lot can change between now and then, here's a look at who is still standing after Saturday's carnage:

QUARTERBACKS

Matt Nichols, Chris Streveler, Sean McGuire

RUNNING BACK/FULLBACK

Andrew Harris*, Brady Oliveira*, Mike Miller*, John Rush*

Practice roster: Johnny Augustine*

RECEIVERS

Darvin Adams, Chris Matthews, Drew Wolitarsky*, Nic Demski*, Daniel Petermann*, Kenny Lawler, Lucky Whitehead, Rasheed Bailey, Charles Nelson

Practice roster: Kenny Walker

OFFENSIVE LINE

Stanley Bryant, Pat Neufeld*, Michael Couture*, Jermarcus Hardrick, Drew Desjarlais*, Cody Speller*, Geoff Gray*, Jamar McGloster

Practice roster: Tui Eli*

DEFENSIVE LINE

Willie Jefferson, Drake Nevis, Jake Thomas*, Jackson Jeffcoat, Craig Roh, Steven Richardson, Jonathan Kongbo* (injured)

Practice roster: Connor Griffiths, Patrick Choudja

LINEBACKERS

Adam Bighill, Anthony Gaitor, Kyrie Wilson, Thomas Miles*, Jesse Briggs*, Shayne Gauthier*, DJ Lalama*, Nick Temple, Thiadric Hansen

Practice roster: Dale Warren, Manuel Hernandez-Reyes

DEFENSIVE BACKS

Chandler Fenner, Marcus Sayles, Jeff Hecht*, Brandon Alexander, Winston Rose, Derek Jones*, Dexter Janke*, Kerfalla Exume*, Nick Hallet*

Practice roster: Mike Jones, Marcus Rios, Chris Humes, Sergio Schiaffino-Perez

SPECIALISTS

Kicker: Justin Medlock

Long-snapper: Chad Rempel*

https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/06/08/45-man-roster-set-ahead-opening-week/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/06/08/45-man-roster-set-ahead-opening-week/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2019, 09:28:10 PM
John Hodge   @JohnDHodge
Here's how I see the #Bombers' depth chart following today's cuts. Five players still need to be added to injured reserve & we know national DE Jonathan Kongbo will be one of them. With six international RECs still on the  roster, will Chris Matthews be another? #CFL


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8klCIbW4AAQEAs.jpg)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8klEIAXkAI1_bY.jpg)



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 08, 2019, 09:41:54 PM
So, it looks like 6 DL until Kongbo comes back, I guess we lose a DB when that happens...

24Nat, 23 Int on the current roster.  Assuming Dejarlais and McGloster on the 2 man...

By the time Matthews gets healthy, we should know which of Lawler, Bailey and Nelson are expendable...

That leaves 2 nat, 1 Int "injured

Janke, Exume, Nelson?

Nice thing, most of the IR / PR players will be minimal cost...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 10:06:16 PM
If you believe the depth chart then Hecht is the starting safety?? Nelson is shown in Matthews spot & as a punt returner.

That would make Bailey the odd man out if Nelson goes to IR. If we believe who and where players are listed which is not always 100%.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 08, 2019, 10:18:54 PM
If you believe the depth chart then Hecht is the starting safety?? Nelson is shown in Matthews spot & as a punt returner.

That would make Bailey the odd man out if Nelson goes to IR. If we believe who and where players are listed which is not always 100%.

It's Hodge's guesstimate...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 08, 2019, 10:22:19 PM

Darrin Bauming, TSN. @DarrinBauming


How I see the #Bombers headed into the 2019 season...


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8kupX-WwAAuK9i.png:large)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 10:32:46 PM
It's Hodge's guesstimate...

He must have had a reason. With all the off season comments about Jones as the starter, that seems odd.  So we'll see how things look on game day.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue newt on June 08, 2019, 11:38:10 PM

Darrin Bauming, TSN. @DarrinBauming


How I see the #Bombers headed into the 2019 season...


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8kupX-WwAAuK9i.png:large)

He has 8 Canadian starters on that...it shows Thomas as a Nat with no depth behind him, front of the line, implying he's the starter (but not highlit blue).  I'm guessing Thomas doesn't start (not after Forde and Lachance were cut, there'd be no Nats to give depth there behind him).  I'd put Richardson in as a start, and Thomas as depth.

Just my 2 cents...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 08, 2019, 11:43:34 PM
He has 8 Canadian starters on that...it shows Thomas as a Nat with no depth behind him, front of the line, implying he's the starter (but not highlit blue).  I'm guessing Thomas doesn't start (not after Forde and Lachance were cut, there'd be no Nats to give depth there behind him).  I'd put Richardson in as a start, and Thomas as depth.

Just my 2 cents...

Yeah, Thomas will just be the rotation player on the DL. Roh is probably the DI at DE.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 09, 2019, 12:05:34 AM
He must have had a reason. With all the off season comments about Jones as the starter, that seems odd.  So we'll see how things look on game day.

Jones had the Safety job locked up last year prior to his injury, haven't you heard???  Yah ****** right.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Jockitch on June 09, 2019, 12:33:42 AM
Congrats to Global baller Thiadric Hansen for being named to the main Roster, while we even kept 2 Globals for the Practise roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 09, 2019, 01:33:47 AM
I believe Exume has a year in school left


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 09, 2019, 03:02:00 PM
Congrats to Global baller Thiadric Hansen for being named to the main Roster, while we even kept 2 Globals for the Practise roster

2 Global players on the PR was a new provision in the CBA. That said that means 3 of the Global players out of 4 remain with the team. Nothing like automatically making the team with no competition!!.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 09, 2019, 03:03:00 PM
2 Global players on the PR was a new provision in the CBA. That said that means 3 of the Global players out of 4 remain with the team. Nothing like automatically making the team with no competition!!.

In a league where 6 of 9 make the playoffs?  Whodathunkit...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 09, 2019, 07:14:22 PM
Darrin Bauming, TSN.   @DarrinBauming
Rashaun Simonise, released by the #Bombers yesterday, was set to make in the neighbourhood of $75k in salary this season, plus potential performance bonuses.

The Canadian receiver was drafted 12th-overall in 2018.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 09, 2019, 07:16:33 PM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers

The following players have adjusted their jersey numbers:

Chris Humes
- #8
Connor Griffiths - #91
Chris Matthews - #13
Sergio Schiaffino-Perez - #26
Manuel Hernandez-Reyes - #38
Lucky Whitehead - #7
Charles Nelson - #6
Thiadric Hansen - #3
Kerfalla Exume - #41
Nick Temple - #43


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RebusRankin on June 09, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Anybody else think we add in another import DB to the roster from the PR before game one?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 09, 2019, 07:35:57 PM
Anybody else think we add in another import DB to the roster from the PR before game one?
If we do its Jones. Imo Rios or Humes could get IR'd


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 09, 2019, 07:43:45 PM
If we do its Jones. Imo Rios or Humes could get IR'd

It's been what's worrying me today. I'd rather have a DB as a DI than a LB.

Rios or Humes don't need to be moved to IR. Rios is a rookie and Humes was only on a game day roster once. So both qualify as rookies I believe and don't really need to be paid a full salary as opposed to PR money.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on June 09, 2019, 08:08:49 PM
Wondering that when Kongbo is deemed game ready if he slides into the roster at expense of Roh as a DI and we roster another DB or receiver?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 09, 2019, 08:40:19 PM
Wondering that when Kongbo is deemed game ready if he slides into the roster at expense of Roh as a DI and we roster another DB or receiver?

Probably but when do we think he'll be ready to practice? I'm assuming he gets moved to the 1 game IR for awhile. He'll need some time to get into game shape and speed.

It appears we'll start the season with a receiver as a DI based on the roster after the cuts. OTOH our # 3 receiver could also be the returner with Petermann getting more reps in relief.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 10, 2019, 12:18:38 AM
It's been what's worrying me today. I'd rather have a DB as a DI than a LB.

Rios or Humes don't need to be moved to IR. Rios is a rookie and Humes was only on a game day roster once. So both qualify as rookies I believe and don't really need to be paid a full salary as opposed to PR money.


I see it as paying more for a PR spot. We IR Rios or Humes, sure we pay game day salary but then at least we have a PR spot for, say, Schrot or Boynton


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 10, 2019, 12:44:39 AM
Probably but when do we think he'll be ready to practice? I'm assuming he gets moved to the 1 game IR for awhile. He'll need some time to get into game shape and speed.

It appears we'll start the season with a receiver as a DI based on the roster after the cuts. OTOH our # 3 receiver could also be the returner with Petermann getting more reps in relief.

I think the roster is going to remain in flux for week one, I don't see Neufeld, Rose, or Matthews being ready to start against BC, by week 3 they should have their house in order.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Nic16 on June 10, 2019, 02:44:05 AM
Now that Simonise turned into a flop I hope Walters is working on signing Coombs. If/when healthy he?d be a perfect fit in LaPo?s O. He could rotate with Demski and with whomever is playing Dressler?s old position.

Demski, Coombs, Lucky and 33 on the field at the same time could create some havoc for opposing D.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: dd on June 10, 2019, 02:50:39 AM
I think it?s too early to say Simonise is a flop , and I think we made a mistake in cutting him, but I?d definitely check out Coombs as he?s very similar to Demski and would give us nat depth at receiver and likely would cost a bunch either


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
I see it as paying more for a PR spot. We IR Rios or Humes, sure we pay game day salary but then at least we have a PR spot for, say, Schrot or Boynton

It's very uncommon for rookies to be " awarded " a spot on the IR. Even on ELC, that's about $3K per player.  It would add up quickly if they remain injured for several weeks.

Current roster 51 players: 26 imports, 1 global and 24 Canadians

Roster limit with the new global addition will be 47 in total with the 2 man DR.

Therefore we're 4 over which would seem to indicate 4 players moving to IR this week.

Matthews, Rose, Hardrick & Neufled seem to those destined for 1 game IR? It appears the 2 man DR would be 2 Canadian players based on the math and expectations.

Still 1 open spot on the PR. If we sign Coombs, I'd expect a rookie NI DB to move to the PR so Coombs can be added to the AR.






Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: booch on June 10, 2019, 01:28:38 PM
Pretty sure Rio and Humes will be on IR as they are both hurt..possibly Neufeld if he not ready but pretty sure Hardrick will be playing week one...possibly Matthews as well


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
Pretty sure Rio and Humes will be on IR as they are both hurt..possibly Neufeld if he not ready but pretty sure Hardrick will be playing week one...possibly Matthews as well

We'll see but I see no obligation or need to IR a rookie, hurt or otherwise. Teams often cut rookies when injured. Washington was injured and we released him outright.

We may want to keep those two around but it appears they accepted a PR spot.

I hope you are correct about the veterans that might actually play this week. That will require some different shuffling of the extra 4 players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 10, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
On the coaches show, OShea mentioned that with the bye in week 2, no reason to rush anyone back... assuming that is Neufeld and Matthews specifically... which is a great decision, I think...



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 10, 2019, 04:18:05 PM
It's very uncommon for rookies to be " awarded " a spot on the IR. Even on ELC, that's about $3K per player.  It would add up quickly if they remain injured for several weeks.

Current roster 51 players: 26 imports, 1 global and 24 Canadians

Roster limit with the new global addition will be 47 in total with the 2 man DR.

Therefore we're 4 over which would seem to indicate 4 players moving to IR this week.

Matthews, Rose, Hardrick & Neufled seem to those destined for 1 game IR? It appears the 2 man DR would be 2 Canadian players based on the math and expectations.

Still 1 open spot on the PR. If we sign Coombs, I'd expect a rookie NI DB to move to the PR so Coombs can be added to the AR.






Is the roster now 46 or 47? I've read the game day roster is now 45 (including the 1 Global player) plus 1 inactive player.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: gobombersgo on June 10, 2019, 04:24:30 PM
Darrin Bauming, TSN.   DarrinBauming

Kyle Walters says the #Bombers offered Rashaun Simonise a practice roster spot.

Walters says he and his scouting staff are "looking at" Anthony Coombs amongst a handful of new CFL free agents. Coombs is a former first-round pick out of the @MBBisons and Sturgeon Heights Collegiate.

Kyle Walters jokes that if he spoke to Pat Neufeld's potential availability for Week 1, Mike O'Shea would punch him in the face. #Bombers

Walters says interior D--linemen Thomas, Nevis, and Richardson will all rotate within the game. OL Jamar McGloster is purely a tackle, so we can expect three Canadian starters on the interior of the #Bombers' offensive line to balance the ratio.

Ed Tait.  @EdTaitWFC

And Kyle Walters on the #Bombers release of Bryan Bennett 'real, real difficult decision.'

Bob Irving.  @BobIrvingCJOB

Kyle walters says Sean Mcguire was kept over Brian Bennett because he's younger with more upside. And receiver Rashaun Simonise declined an offer to stay on the practice roster. More on all this tonite on the coaches show with Mike O'Shea 7-8 on CJOB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
Is the roster now 46 or 47? I've read the game day roster is now 45 (including the 1 Global player) plus 1 inactive player.

I'm under the impression it's 47 with  2 on the DR.

EDIT: I stand corrected. The DR is reduced to 1 due to adding the Global player. IMO that sucks. I would have rather just added / dressed another Canadian to game day roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: RyGuy13 on June 10, 2019, 04:50:25 PM
I'm under the impression it's 47 with  2 on the DR.

Walters just stated that last year it was 44 with 2 on the DR. This year, it?s 45 with 1 DR. The 45th spot is the global roster player.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: blue_or_die on June 10, 2019, 06:10:35 PM
So is McGloster de facto the new Foketi?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: kkc60 on June 10, 2019, 06:56:31 PM
So is McGloster de facto the new Foketi?
Yes and no. Hes our backup tackle but Walter's said he isn't a guard


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 10, 2019, 06:58:25 PM
So is McGloster de facto the new Foketi?

Basically, although Foketi could play G or T so he added more versatility, while McGloster can only play T.  A factor in Foketi's decision to retire was off-season surgery, which I don't believe was known before Walters presser this morning.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 11, 2019, 04:18:41 AM
I'm under the impression it's 47 with  2 on the DR.

EDIT: I stand corrected. The DR is reduced to 1 due to adding the Global player. IMO that sucks. I would have rather just added / dressed another Canadian to game day roster.

Huh, what??  You guys sure about this?  Strike that... I just listened to the Coach's Show and not only does one global have to be on the GDR, but they also cannot be scratched!!  So a global is guaranteed dressed for every game.  That almost puts the globals ahead of the non-dressing players in the pecking order.  And a global is guaranteed a GD paycheque each week.

Weird.  CFPA agreed to this?  Weirder.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2019, 12:49:23 PM
Huh, what??  You guys sure about this?  Strike that... I just listened to the Coach's Show and not only does one global have to be on the GDR, but they also cannot be scratched!!  So a global is guaranteed dressed for every game.  That almost puts the globals ahead of the non-dressing players in the pecking order.  And a global is guaranteed a GD paycheque each week.

Weird.  CFPA agreed to this?  Weirder.


Yes that's the problem. Guaranteeing a roster spot for a Global and the fact it takes away what might have been a spot for a Canadian or import on the inactive.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 11, 2019, 01:55:12 PM
Huh, what??  You guys sure about this?  Strike that... I just listened to the Coach's Show and not only does one global have to be on the GDR, but they also cannot be scratched!!  So a global is guaranteed dressed for every game.  That almost puts the globals ahead of the non-dressing players in the pecking order.  And a global is guaranteed a GD paycheque each week.

Weird.  CFPA agreed to this?  Weirder.


Guaranteed mimimum cheque with no SMS hit... does not take a position away, or any SMS$.  And they cannot be paid more than minimum...

Hopefully they can contribute a little now, and more later and have this be more than a publicity stunt...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
Guaranteed mimimum cheque with no SMS hit... does not take a position away, or any SMS$.  And they cannot be paid more than minimum...

Hopefully they can contribute a little now, and more later and have this be more than a publicity stunt...

It does eliminate a position and that's the issue. The DR is now 1 player and not 2 players. Quite often we put Foketi and a Canadian OL on the DR.

Today we have 5 players too many on the AR. If the Dr remained as 2 we'd only have to deal with 4 players.

Either we move 4 to the IR or someone is shifted to the PR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: theaardvark on June 11, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
It does eliminate a position and that's the issue. The DR is now 1 player and not 2 players. Quite often we put Foketi and a Canadian OL on the DR.

Today we have 5 players too many on the AR. If the Dr remained as 2 we'd only have to deal with 4 players.

Either we move 4 to the IR or someone is shifted to the PR.

Pretty sure that's not right...  according to CFL.DB...  https://cfldb.ca/faq/rosters/

There are 12 players on the field per side and teams dress a 44-man roster and manage a two player reserve list.

Using the 46-man roster multiplied by the current nine teams in 2018, there were 414 roster spots in the CFL. With the ten player practice rosters, the nine team total is pushed to 504 spots and if injury lists are counted, there are over 600 players on CFL rosters on an annual basis. From 2015 to 2018, the number of unique players that appeared on CFL team active rosters, reserve or injured lists through the 18 game season and playoffs ranged from 626 to 680.

In 2019, teams will dress 45 players for games, an increase of one player with the addition of a global player roster spot in 2019. Teams scratch or place two players on a reserve list from the active roster to reach the game roster, making the active roster 47 spots.

Some details of the roster requirements introduced in the 2019 CBA can be found in the summary in the roster cuts article. The 45 man roster consists of three quarterbacks, minimum of 21 Nationals, minimum of one Global and maximum of 20 Internationals players. A 10-man practice roster requires a minimum of 2 Nationals. Teams have the option to increase the practice roster to 12 with the addition of up to 2 Global players.

The below refers to the 2014 CBA, and all aspects may not apply to the current 2019 CBA.

Each team's roster must include at least 21 National players. Nationals are defined as a person who was a Canadian citizen when he signed his first contract, classified as a non-import before May 31, 2014, or has lived in Canada for five years before turning 18. This equates to a minimum of 180 National players on the nine CFL 44-man rosters. There is no requirement to have any International players on a team's roster.

Players not meeting the definition of a National player are classified as International players. There are 20 International roster spots available on CFL rosters. The National and International classification terms were introduced with the 2014 CBA and replaced the previously used terms non-import/import along with different classification criteria, which has changed a number of times since implemented. The change in the classification definition has resulted in new, different loopholes for teams searching for National players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2018-2019
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
Pretty sure that's not right...  according to CFL.DB...  https://cfldb.ca/faq/rosters/

There are 12 players on the field per side and teams dress a 44-man roster and manage a two player reserve list.

Using the 46-man roster multiplied by the current nine teams in 2018, there were 414 roster spots in the CFL. With the ten player practice rosters, the nine team total is pushed to 504 spots and if injury lists are counted, there are over 600 players on CFL rosters on an annual basis. From 2015 to 2018, the number of unique players that appeared on CFL team active rosters, reserve or injured lists through the 18 game season and playoffs ranged from 626 to 680.

In 2019, teams will dress 45 players for games, an increase of one player with the addition of a global player roster spot in 2019. Teams scratch or place two players on a reserve list from the active roster to reach the game roster, making the active roster 47 spots.

Some details of the roster requirements introduced in the 2019 CBA can be found in the summary in the roster cuts article. The 45 man roster consists of three quarterbacks, minimum of 21 Nationals, minimum of one Global and maximum of 20 Internationals players. A 10-man practice roster requires a minimum of 2 Nationals. Teams have the option to increase the practice roster to 12 with the addition of up to 2 Global players.

The below refers to the 2014 CBA, and all aspects may not apply to the current 2019 CBA.

Each team's roster must include at least 21 National players. Nationals are defined as a person who was a Canadian citizen when he signed his first contract, classified as a non-import before May 31, 2014, or has lived in Canada for five years before turning 18. This equates to a minimum of 180 National players on the nine CFL 44-man rosters. There is no requirement to have any International players on a team's roster.

Players not meeting the definition of a National player are classified as International players. There are 20 International roster spots available on CFL rosters. The National and International classification terms were introduced with the 2014 CBA and replaced the previously used terms non-import/import along with different classification criteria, which has changed a number of times s