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Title: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: Norm W on November 08, 2018, 06:21:21 PM
An article published in 3downnation about the top HC prospects... The opening sentence about Lapo made me laugh!

"Hamstrung by an inept general manager during his head coaching stint in Winnipeg (2011-2013), LaPolice has reestablished himself as one of the league's top offensive coordinators. For a team looking to boost its offensive production, LaPolice would make a strong head coaching candidate."

Entire article here... http://3downnation.com/2018/11/08/top-12-cfl-head-coaching-candidates/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/11/08/top-12-cfl-head-coaching-candidates/)


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 08, 2018, 07:19:19 PM
Some baffling candidates on that list but that's nothing new from Hodge. His columns stink and this one is no exception. I mean, Dinwiddie...? And he can't even get LaPolice's tenure right (it was 2010-12).

His point on LaPolice being hamstrung by an inept GM isn't exactly inaccurate. However, I still don't see him as HC material. He seems best suited to a booth calling offense.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: The Zipp on November 08, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
I don't think any of them are "baffling"...some would be longshots but guys like Steinauer and Claybrooks are solid...I think it is a fair summary of what is out there with some CFL experience.


DeVone Claybrooks

Claybrooks ended his ten-year playing career in January of 2012 to become the Calgary Stampeders? defensive line coach. Serving as the club?s defensive coordinator for the past three seasons, Claybrooks is considered by many to be the top head coaching candidate for 2019.

Orlondo Steinauer


Steinauer briefly ended his seven-year coaching tenure in the CFL following the 2016 season when he became the defensive coordinator at Fresno State. Serving now as the Ticats? assistant head coach, this five-time all-star is earmarked by many to become the next head coach in Hamilton ? or elsewhere.

Paul LaPolice

Hamstrung by an inept general manager during his head coaching stint in Winnipeg (2011-2013), LaPolice has reestablished himself as one of the league?s top offensive coordinators. For a team looking to boost its offensive production, LaPolice would make a strong head coaching candidate.

Scott Milanovich

Milanovich won a Grey Cup during his five-year stint as the head coach of the Toronto Argonauts (2012-2016) and helped develop Zach Collaros and Trevor Harris into starting-caliber quarterbacks. Now the quarterbacks coach with the Jacksonville Jaguars, Milanovich would be a well-regarded head coaching candidate should he ever return north.

Corey Chamblin

Chamblin went 29-34 as the head coach of the Saskatchewan Roughriders from 2012-2015, a tenure that was highlighted by a Grey Cup championship in 2013. Winning another Grey Cup as Toronto?s defensive coordinator in 2017, Chamblin left the club to become a quality control coach at the University of Arkansas.

Mark Washington

Washington has more than paid his dues, working in the CFL for the past 22 years as a player (1997-2007) and coach (2008-2018). Just finishing his fifth year as the Lions? defensive coordinator, Washington will be a candidate for his club?s head coaching vacancy as well as openings elsewhere.

Craig Dickenson

The older brother of Dave Dickenson has spent the past 19 years coaching in the CFL and NFL. Spending the past three years with Chris Jones in Saskatchewan, Dickenson could become the first special teams coordinator since Mike O?Shea to get a shot at wearing the big headset.

Marc Trestman

Fired by the Argonauts this past Saturday after a disastrous 2018 season, Trestman remains a well-respected head coach and three-time Grey Cup champion. Trestman will be paid the full value of his 2019 salary ? reportedly worth $600,000 ? but, at 62, may not have many coaching years left. There?s a good chance he?ll want to coach next season if an opportunity arises.

Kent Austin

Things ended poorly in Hamilton, but Austin is still a 55-year-old veteran coach with a history of success in the CFL. Austin wants to get back into coaching and has experience as a personnel guy ? there?s a chance we see him get another shot to build a winner.

Tommy Condell

Condell helped build a winner in Hamilton as the club?s offensive coordinator before resigning prior to the 2016 season. Spending the last two years in Toronto, Condell could get a look as head coach there or elsewhere in the league. Condell interviewed for the Alouettes? job twice last off-season.

Carson Walch

Walch left Edmonton after two seasons as the club?s offensive coordinator (2016-2017) to become the assistant receivers coach with the Philadelphia Eagles. If Walch could be lured back north, he could be in demand for his work in developing Mike Reilly and James Franklin.

Ryan Dinwiddie

Still just 37, Dinwiddie has served as Calgary?s quarterbacks coach for the past three seasons. It may be early for the former CFL pivot to receive serious head coaching interest, but Dinwiddie has a solid reputation and works very closely with Dave Dickenson. I?d bet on him becoming a CFL head coach within the next half-decade.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: kkc60 on November 08, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Some baffling candidates on that list but that's nothing new from Hodge. His columns stink and this one is no exception. I mean, Dinwiddie...? And he can't even get LaPolice's tenure right (it was 2010-12).

His point on LaPolice being hamstrung by an inept GM isn't exactly inaccurate. However, I still don't see him as HC material. He seems best suited to a booth calling offense.
I don't mind Hodge's game summaries but besides that most if not all his articles are on par with something anyone on here could write. There used to be another guy on Twitter who ran Blue Bomber Buzz. His articles were always awesome.

The fact Hodge and a reporter like Dunk are even mentioned in the same breath is crazy


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: the paw on November 08, 2018, 08:47:11 PM
i doubt that Austin is considering a return to the CFL, given that he had to fire himself. 
I don't think Milanovich or Walch are coming back anytime soon.
I don't think Craig Dickenson wants the headache, he likes his off season too much.
Cory Chamblin has been a little bit erratic lately, quitting cold on the Argos, I'm not sure he gets a look. 

Other than that, it's a good list.  Dinwiddie might be a bit premature, but I think he is on that career path.  Also a little surprised Benevides didn't get a mention. 


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: rubanski on November 08, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
His point on LaPolice being hamstrung by an inept GM isn't exactly inaccurate. However, I still don't see him as HC material. He seems best suited to a booth calling offense.

Are you joking? Joe Mack was a pathetic excuse of a GM who ran this team's talent in to the ground. It's not even a debatable issue.



Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 08, 2018, 08:53:17 PM
Are you joking? Joe Mack was a pathetic excuse of a GM who ran this team's talent in to the ground. It's not even a debatable issue.

Nah. Apparently, you can't read or understand how a double negative works.

I agree with Hodge's assessment on Mack as it relates to LaPolice being hamstrung. Mack was a terrible GM and I wasn't disputing that. ???


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: BlueInCgy on November 08, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
Other than that, it's a good list.  Dinwiddie might be a bit premature, but I think he is on that career path.  Also a little surprised Benevides didn't get a mention. 

My initial reaction to the Dinwiddie suggestion was to laugh it off, but I thought about it a bit, and he's operating in the best possible HC development situation under Huff and Dickenson, and while I agree it's a little too soon, it's definitely well within the realm of possibility.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: bluebeard on November 08, 2018, 11:58:10 PM
i doubt that Austin is considering a return to the CFL, given that he had to fire himself. 
I don't think Milanovich or Walch are coming back anytime soon.
I don't think Craig Dickenson wants the headache, he likes his off season too much.
Cory Chamblin has been a little bit erratic lately, quitting cold on the Argos, I'm not sure he gets a look. 

Other than that, it's a good list.  Dinwiddie might be a bit premature, but I think he is on that career path.  Also a little surprised Benevides didn't get a mention. 

Probably it had something to do with how Edmonton's defense played this season.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: dd on November 09, 2018, 01:53:37 AM
Steinhauer will be Toronto's next HC, Washington BC's.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: Jesse on November 09, 2018, 04:05:51 AM
My initial reaction to the Dinwiddie suggestion was to laugh it off, but I thought about it a bit, and he's operating in the best possible HC development situation under Huff and Dickenson, and while I agree it's a little too soon, it's definitely well within the realm of possibility.

Obviously it's too soon to talk about being an HC. He may start taking coordinator interviews soon. Especially if a guy he's worked with (ie. Claybrooks) gets the HC nod somewhere.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: theaardvark on November 09, 2018, 03:31:16 PM
Sherman staying put in MTL, Maas remains in EDM.  So the only spots open are Toronto, BC and maybe SSK when we lay a beat down on them on Sunday...

That's a lot of candidates for a very few jobs...


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 09, 2018, 04:47:14 PM
Sherman staying put in MTL, Maas remains in EDM.  So the only spots open are Toronto, BC and maybe SSK when we lay a beat down on them on Sunday...

That's a lot of candidates for a very few jobs...

 ::)

Could you just not say crap like that? Sunday isn't going to be a cakewalk.

Anyway, I'm surprised Hodge made no mention of Khari Jones as a potential HC candidate. I'd slot him ahead of Dinwiddie and even some of those names down in the US (who I don't realistically see returning to Canada any time soon).


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: Jesse on November 09, 2018, 04:51:33 PM
::)

Could you just not say crap like that? Sunday isn't going to be a cakewalk.

Anyway, I'm surprised Hodge made no mention of Khari Jones as a potential HC candidate. I'd slot him ahead of Dinwiddie and even some of those names down in the US (who I don't realistically see returning to Canada any time soon).

We're allowed to be confident in our team. We don't need to be scared before game day.

On the Khari Jones comment, I feel like he is having trouble maintaining an OC job, much less getting a promotion. He's not a young, up and comer like Dinwiddie.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 09, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
We're allowed to be confident in our team. We don't need to be scared before game day.

On the Khari Jones comment, I feel like he is having trouble maintaining an OC job, much less getting a promotion. He's not a young, up and comer like Dinwiddie.

It's cocky to say there will be a beat-down and insinuate a coach will get fired. I never said anyone couldn't be confident in their team or that anyone should be scared. Where did you come up with that?

And you're right, but Jones is also OC in a garbage organization. He has more experience as a coach and, perhaps less importantly, a player. I just think Dinwiddie is being a bit oversold while Jones gets outright ignored.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: Jesse on November 09, 2018, 05:19:29 PM
It's cocky to say there will be a beat-down and insinuate a coach will get fired. I never said anyone couldn't be confident in their team or that anyone should be scared. Where did you come up with that?

And you're right, but Jones is also OC in a garbage organization. He has more experience as a coach and, perhaps less importantly, a player. I just think Dinwiddie is being a bit oversold while Jones gets outright ignored.

I think saying it's going to be a beat down is healthy trash talk, all I'm saying.

And I'm not talking about Jones' work with the Als, I'm saying he's been with 4 different organizations over the past 7 years and has gotten bumped back down to a QB coach at one point and is now the OC in Montreal. It seems like his career is trending down, not up. I wouldn't have him on a list of potential HC's either.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 10, 2018, 02:45:30 AM
Probably it had something to do with how Edmonton's defense played this season.

EDM D did improve a ton in the last half of the season.  They were hot garbage to start the season, and improved from there.  Not to WPG levels, but I'd say to around BC's (sans Solly) level.  I think Bene got them into shape a bit.

I'd say it was EDM's O that was letting them down in most of their 2nd half losses.

But no way Bene is a HC again any time soon.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: pjrocksmb on November 10, 2018, 05:15:01 AM
::)

Could you just not say crap like that? Sunday isn't going to be a cakewalk.

Anyway, I'm surprised Hodge made no mention of Khari Jones as a potential HC candidate. I'd slot him ahead of Dinwiddie and even some of those names down in the US (who I don't realistically see returning to Canada any time soon).

it's not crap it's his opinion.  Have some respect.

A beat down could happen and it's ok to discuss that possibility. 


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: dd on November 10, 2018, 05:24:05 AM
That is what he is talking about...showing some respect..to the opposition. There is nothing that is responsible for more losses than over confidence. Our 31-0 was an everything went fright for us and everything went wrong for them game. I don?t expect that at all.

Key to the game is to start off early and score to quiet the crazy crowd down.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 10, 2018, 05:40:13 AM
Key to the game is to start off early and score to quiet the crazy crowd down.

Luckily, that just happens to be WPG's M.O.!!  But as one of the Rider fans here said, the green fans won't be nervous if we're only up 7 or 10, because they think their Green Jesus #7 will bail them out.  So we have to get them down by 15+ and keep the boot down.  If we do that, the fans will be questioning their team by halftime.... and leaving in the late 3rd Q when we're up by 18.

I don't think that game plan is overconfidence, I think it's somewhat necessary.  I think that's what Lapo will gameplan around.  If we get into a slugfest then it'll be ugly and it'll be much harder to win.  But win we will!


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: NewBlue on November 10, 2018, 01:06:36 PM
We're going to give them a breat down, and their coach will be fired!  ;D


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: dd on November 10, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
Yes, lots of 12-6 teams fire their coach!! Jones isn?t going anywhere


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: Waffler on November 10, 2018, 03:18:19 PM
Speaking to Khari, HC is a different skill set than OC. If he would be better at it, I don't know him well enough to say but he does seem like a guy people like and rally for.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: Jesse on November 10, 2018, 04:02:07 PM
Speaking to Khari, HC is a different skill set than OC. If he would be better at it, I don't know him well enough to say but he does seem like a guy people like and rally for.

That may be true, but typically (Kavis Reed notwithstanding), you have to succeed in one role beofre being promoted to the next level.


Title: Re: Top HC Prospects for 2019
Post by: DM83 on November 11, 2018, 04:34:20 PM
Not sure I like Khari as a head coach.  I would like to see him be instrumental in some big game victories.  I just haven't seen it.  I wish i would have.  I loved him as a player.  What a competitor. 

But Buck was even a better competitor.
What about Dinwiddie in Calgary?...is he Good, or did he just have Great players to work with?

Lapo is head and shoulders above the other candidates, one of the overall better coaches in the league. Would he want to leave Winnipeg?  I wouldn't.  Comfy here, competitive team.m Winnioeg has done a lot of things right.  Time to rise o the occasion and win a couple more road games.

Where was the last game the Bombers won thenGrey cup?...Edmonton? Hmm?!