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Title: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: bludan on November 04, 2018, 03:02:46 AM
Looks like we are playing Roughriders.  To be honest, I am thrilled.  I can't see us having a real problem with them, and I think it is a good warm-up game to play Calgary.  I am far more concerned with getting some injuries than I am losing the game.  How is everyone else feeling about things?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Tiger on November 04, 2018, 03:08:02 AM
Yup.  Collaros starts?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: bludan on November 04, 2018, 03:10:22 AM
Yup.  Collaros starts?

Sounds that way.  He is still going to be hearing the footsteps from the last time we played them.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Big Daddy on November 04, 2018, 04:21:05 AM
I'm okay with it.  But I also see Milt's point that if Calgary lost, then going in with Calgary on such a losing streak and avoiding the tough home field of sask could have been preferable.  No arguing the Calgary atmosphere wouldn't be nearly as bad with so much losing, and really - their fans just aren't as loud anyway.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dd on November 04, 2018, 04:42:28 AM
Riders and their fans are going to be amped up for this one. We re going into hostile territory where we don?t win many games, but I can?t see us losing this one. We ve got to forget the 31-0 butt whuppin we just gave them and come out and match their intensity, score first and take their fans out of it.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Norm W on November 04, 2018, 12:33:22 PM
The road to the cup was going through Regina sooner or later, I think sooner is better than later.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on November 04, 2018, 01:41:28 PM
There's a reason that finishing first in your conference gives any team a better shot at getting to the cup final.  The statistics support it.  Our road to the cup is the most difficult one because we finished third in our conference.   If we beat the Riders on the road we have a legitimate shot at beating the Stamps who once again finished first albeit by winning their last game.    The Crazy Football League is hard to predict st times when it comes down to the Grey Cup however statistics favour either the Stamps or Redblacks.   The Bombers are definitely considered as a contender this year and have earned that right with their resurgent play.  MOS in his 5 years as HC has never won a playoff game....it's his time and we as a team are healthy,  hungry and confident.   I like our chances despite the odds! 


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: RebusRankin on November 04, 2018, 01:41:48 PM
I think Collaros does not play. Feel that is why they signed Tate.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TBURGESS on November 04, 2018, 01:44:10 PM
This won't be like the last Riders game. They are at home, with a week's rest. Their fans will give them a boost. They won 2 more games than we did for a reason. That reason isn't luck and we didn't just give them their 2 wins.

It should be a close, hard fought, playoff game. I hope we win it, but it won't be easy.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 04, 2018, 01:53:00 PM
I do not think Collaros starts. If he does I cannot see him being effective. The Tate signing tells us it is not looking good for Zach.

I to think it will be close hard fought game but I think we will be hitting our stride on both sides of the ball. Plus with Dressler back for this game, unlike the LDC and BB, we will have are weapons at our disposal.

I like our chances.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Norm W on November 04, 2018, 01:53:51 PM
Our road to the cup is the most difficult one because we finished third in our conference.   If we beat the Riders on the road we have a legitimate shot at beating the Stamps

No argument with those statements, to win the cup the Bombers have to go on another run and win three consecutive road games. But I also think things are lining up as good as they can be. The Riders might be going into the playoffs wounded at the QB position, with an offence that wasn't all that frightening to begin with, their defence and special teams have been getting them the wins. Then I look at Calgary, okay the get the bye into the final. Normally an advantage, particularly if your'e playing well, you get some extra time for guys to heal. But they have not been playing well, they need the playing time to get back on track. They will only get extra film time and practice against themselves.




Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TBURGESS on November 04, 2018, 01:57:47 PM
Collaros isn't a difference maker in Regina. Their offense isn't what wins them games. It's about defense and special teams and has been all season long.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 04, 2018, 02:23:19 PM
Riders D has been underachieving lately as well.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Sammy225 on November 04, 2018, 02:31:24 PM
They get a lot of points off of turnovers. So simple enough we have to protect the ball (Demski). I know it is cliche but it really is true in this game with two Defenses that can turn the ball over the team who protects the ball will win. I expect a low scoring game if we can get to 21 we win.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Pigskin on November 04, 2018, 02:53:34 PM
A mini season. 1 game at a time. Don't turn the ball over and play smart football and I can't see why we shouldn't make it to the Grey Cup.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Leroy on November 04, 2018, 04:41:11 PM
Collaros isn't a difference maker in Regina. Their offense isn't what wins them games. It's about defense and special teams and has been all season long.

Exactly.

Don't turn the ball over, don't give up special teams plays.

Win.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Sec223 on November 04, 2018, 04:50:29 PM
The bus leaves Saturday morning !!!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Nic16 on November 04, 2018, 05:25:47 PM
Our D vs their O:
Our D elevated their game in a big way in the last 3rd of the season and the majority of their stats are now as good or better than the ?vaunted? Rider D. The return of Jeffcoat to the lineup, the emergence of Brandin Bryant in the 2nd half of the season, Gaitor finding a home at SAM the last 6 games, Sayles now looking more like a future star than a rookie at BHB, Alexander is now healthy and looking very comfortable at the FHB spot, and we should have a well rested Loffler back on Sunday.

Their normally lack lustre O has recently benefited from getting JWL back, adding Marshall - who has looked strong running the ball, Cannon looks like a nice addition, and their OL looks improved with Labatte at C and Blake at OG. HOWEVER, there is a huge ?? at the most important position - QB. ZC is hot & cold and looks to be battling concussion symptoms once again, Bridge is eractic at the best of times, Watford looks exactly like a 3rd string rookie should, and now they have added the experienced, but very unpredictable & flakey Tate - with a week to prepare.

Advantage: WBB

Our O v their D:

In short...we?re healthy, Nichols security blanket - Dressler is healthy & playing, and Nichols has finally shaken whatever ailed him for the first 12 games. Add in LaPo?s experience and creativity and this O should do what they have done all year...scores points!

Their D is GOOD, actually very good at creating turnovers and 2& outs. However, the last time these 2 teams met the BB O moved the ball with consistency thru the first half and put the game away by half time. This allowed LaPo to run a very conservative vanilla offence for the remainder of the game and not expose any other tricks he had up his sleeve. And when you look at the Banjo Bowl game, LaPo had the O in position to score on 2 occasions that could have won them the game, however, Nichols was in still in La-La land at that point in the season and tossed up a few fugly pick 6?s. Things have definitely changed for Nichols and the BB O in a very positive way since that BB game. Nichols ?the (winning) game manager? is back! And he has a future stud QB to come in and do the dirty work.

Advantage: Even

ST?s:

I like their return game much better than ours, so ball possession will be key for the BB. Reduce the number of times you need to punt and when you do...good hang time and ball placing will be key to successful coverage.

As for P/K, I much prefer Medlocks leg & experience over Lauther, and his punt placement is much better than Bartel.

Advantage: slight edge to the Riders due to returns...although Fogg is no slouch and way over due!

Overall, the noise factor will be a challenge at times for the O and momentum will likely help the riders D early in the game. To get past this the BB O will have to play a ball control Offence to get thru them thru the initial excitement of the game and don?t make any mistakes to give their D something to build off of. Keep mistakes to a minimum for the first 2 or 3 qtr and let our D win the field position battle and the points will come for the O. The Riders O will then have to start taking chances to try and move the ball which will play right into the hands of our ball hawking D. Bottom line is, shut down the short stuff & yac, and force whomever their eractic QB is to make the riskier downfield passes under pocket pressure.
Final score: WBB 29 - Riders 19 ;D


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: gobombersgo on November 04, 2018, 05:40:49 PM
The bus leaves Saturday morning !!!

I'll be in section 107 by the tunnel were the Bombers go through.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: WpgGuyInToronto on November 04, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
I like the Bombers chances but we?ve seen this script before. Everything looks good on paper so if we play smart football and protect the ball the Bombers will be fine 31-24 Bombers


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: ichabod_crane on November 04, 2018, 06:57:58 PM
Please Mike O'Shea....NO BRAIN FART coaching calls at crucial times!  Last two playoff games some bad coaching calls at such times which cost the team in the end. He seems to have cleaned those up the second half to 2/3'rds of this season thankfully though.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: bludan on November 04, 2018, 07:13:26 PM
If we stay disciplined, I don't see us losing. Our O is unquestionably better, our D is somewhat better, our special teams are even. We're as healthy as can be, they are not.

As they signed Tate, clearly there is a worry about ZC. Interesting thought; I wonder if they'd have gone after Durant had we given away his rights....  I'm sure they'd rather have him right now than Tate...  His retirement is the gift that just keeps on giving.  We should send him a fruit basket.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue girl on November 04, 2018, 07:25:46 PM
Offensively we have to put together time consuming drives and protect the football. I'm sure that LaPo is putting together a game plan as we speak.

Defensively if we shut down the running game and put some big hits on the QB and RECs we'll be okay.

On special teams don't allow any big returns.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 04, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
The bus leaves Saturday morning !!!
I am in!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Ridermania on November 04, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
Let me know if you need any tickets!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dd on November 04, 2018, 08:39:54 PM
Please Mike O'Shea....NO BRAIN FART coaching calls at crucial times!  Last two playoff games some bad coaching calls at such times which cost the team in the end. He seems to have cleaned those up the second half to 2/3'rds of this season thankfully though.
What??? No 63 yard field goal to win the game?? No fake punt on our 30yard line?? Those were epic bad calls, and I am fearful of another one that keeps the rough rides in the game


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 04, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
What??? No 63 yard field goal to win the game?? No fake punt on our 30yard line?? Those were epic bad calls, and I am fearful of another one that keeps the rough rides in the game
holy tamoly we have some paranoid fans on here. MOS is better at this stuff. Have some faith. He?s been good this year.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Blue In BC on November 04, 2018, 08:48:59 PM
holy tamoly we have some paranoid fans on here. MOS is better at this stuff. Have some faith. He?s been good this year.

Didn't he do a fake punt ( on 3rd and long ) against Ottawa late in the game in our end in the game that went to OT?

He also went on 3rd and more than a yard against Calgary which resulted in a turnover in our end.

No. He hasn't " learned " what not to do yet.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 04, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Didn't he do a fake punt ( on 3rd and long ) against Ottawa late in the game in our end in the game that went to OT?

He also went on 3rd and more than a yard against Calgary which resulted in a turnover in our end.

No. He hasn't " learned " what not to do yet.
ya but all coaches including Wally and Dickie are making the same choices.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Blue In BC on November 04, 2018, 09:08:24 PM
ya but all coaches including Wally and Dickie are making the same choices.

That is the opposite of saying he's better at it. He's made some unbelievably bad decisions in recent games.

Wally has won more games than any other coach in CFL history. Dickinson has a much better win / loss record than O'Shea so both of them get a little more slack with the odd gaff.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: thunderNlightning on November 04, 2018, 10:06:46 PM
New season, everyone is 0-0 and the regular season stats and games vs each other mean nothing anymore. Just take one game at a time.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: ichabod_crane on November 04, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
Didn't he do a fake punt ( on 3rd and long ) against Ottawa late in the game in our end in the game that went to OT?

He also went on 3rd and more than a yard against Calgary which resulted in a turnover in our end.

No. He hasn't " learned " what not to do yet.

I would agree the Ottawa one was not so great either. The Calgary one I have no issues with. Usually a gimme for this team, Calgary just had a great stuff on that play. Neither were like the major long shot gambles in the prior two playoff games though. I know it can be easy to nitpick in hindsight, but those two calls I remember yelling at the tv screen prior to or during the play "*** are you doing?!" ;) :D  Paranoid...NO, but still needs to be pointed out. You cannot have bonehead calls from the bench when games are so close. In blowouts who cares and no one notices really.

Anyway, 28 to 10 for the Bombers on Sunday. No crazy gambles should be required! ;)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dd on November 04, 2018, 10:16:04 PM
holy tamoly we have some paranoid fans on here. MOS is better at this stuff. Have some faith. He?s been good this year.
Paranoid???, hardly. I recall going for it on 3rd and short in our end of the field vs Calgary , in a 1score game, and not making it?-that was 2 games ago. Boneheaded calls like that will kill us. Don?t tell me he?s better, that was 2 games ago!!!

We need to play smart, turnover free football, and that includes the coaches, especially the HC!!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 04, 2018, 10:55:11 PM
Paranoid???, hardly. I recall going for it on 3rd and short in our end of the field vs Calgary , in a 1score game, and not making it?-that was 2 games ago. Boneheaded calls like that will kill us. Don?t tell me he?s better, that was 2 games ago!!!

We need to play smart, turnover free football, and that includes the coaches, especially the HC!!
alright alright sheesh


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Bombers9256 on November 05, 2018, 12:03:02 AM
ya but all coaches including Wally and Dickie are making the same choices.
I don't remember the fake punt in Ottawa. Can you jog my memory?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2018, 12:38:47 AM
I don't remember the fake punt in Ottawa. Can you jog my memory?
i didn?t say anything about a fake punt in particular. I remember Dickie making some crazy 3rd down gambles there last couple games.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 05, 2018, 12:55:59 AM
I think it's a given Sask. will key on Harris as they did in the Banjo Bowl and try and shut him down, can't blame them, if they don't he will rip them for 150 yds. as he did in the LDC.  The key to getting the O on track is to expect this, use a lot of play-action and make use of other weapons over the middle that take advantage of their focus on Harris.  Demski, Woli and Dressler should see plenty of balls and Adams and Thompkins can be used to stretch the field so they can't crowd the box.  I don't think the Bombers will have any problem winning as long as they don't turn over the ball more than twice.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2018, 01:02:56 AM
I think it's a given Sask. will key on Harris as they did in the Banjo Bowl and try and shut him down, can't blame them, if they don't he will rip them for 150 yds. as he did in the LDC.  The key to getting the O on track is to expect this, use a lot of play-action and make use of other weapons over the middle that take advantage of their focus on Harris.  Demski, Woli and Dressler should see plenty of balls and Adams and Thompkins can be used to stretch the field so they can't crowd the box.  I don't think the Bombers will have any problem winning as long as they don't turn over the ball more than twice.
A key stat will be points off turnovers should they occur as well.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: bomb squad on November 05, 2018, 01:08:11 AM
I would agree the Ottawa one was not so great either. The Calgary one I have no issues with. Usually a gimme for this team, Calgary just had a great stuff on that play. Neither were like the major long shot gambles in the prior two playoff games though. I know it can be easy to nitpick in hindsight, but those two calls I remember yelling at the tv screen prior to or during the play "*** are you doing?!" ;) :D  Paranoid...NO, but still needs to be pointed out. You cannot have bonehead calls from the bench when games are so close. In blowouts who cares and no one notices really.

Anyway, 28 to 10 for the Bombers on Sunday. No crazy gambles should be required! ;)


What about this fake punt in the Ottawa game? I have no recollection of it. 


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 05, 2018, 07:18:50 AM
Riders and their fans are going to be amped up for this one. We re going into hostile territory where we don?t win many games, but I can?t see us losing this one. We ve got to forget the 31-0 butt whuppin we just gave them and come out and match their intensity, score first and take their fans out of it.

If we have them down by 2.5 majors sometime in the 3rd Q, SSK fans will deflate and start to go home.  Especially if it's clear we are dominating them just like the last (shutout) game.  The SSK team itself will deflate by halftime if it's clear the SSK O is useless.  Their D will only get you so many 2 & outs before they really get angry nothing is being done with them.

I think the clear way to win is just like EDM did to us in the '17 WSF: dink & dunk, take deep shots when they present themselves, focus on ball security and no INTs.  Keep playing the run, even if it isn't working at first.  That's the key to winning this game.

I think we win by 2.5 majors (minus any last minute garbage time points we let them have).

No argument with those statements, to win the cup the Bombers have to go on another run and win three consecutive road games.

Nope, WPG only has to win 2 consecutive road games.  The final game will be a "home" game in that all of EDM and every CFL fan not from OTT will be rooting and cheering for WPG.  How can you not love the story of underdog, blue-collar, long-suffering WPG winning it all; finally!  No one wants to see snotty upstarts OTT win it again.

What about this fake punt in the Ottawa game? I have no recollection of it. 

I'm pretty sure WPG did no fake punts or FGs in '18.  I don't recall any.  I did a quick search and I couldn't find mention of any?  I think the OP is still stewing from the many fakes in '17, including the one in the WSF that may have cost us the game.

MOS has played things much more vanilla (CGY-like) this year, knowing that he now has a team that can win "normally".  Any tricks are just gravy, to be deployed when reward far outweighs risk.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: wpg#1 on November 05, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
If you go onto the riders fan forum, they are talking about how the riders are going to CRUSH the Bombers. It's pretty funny.
At no point did they crush the Blue Bombers, and yet somehow, they're going to do it on Sunday.
I can't wait for Sunday !!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: rubanski on November 05, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
If you go onto the riders fan forum, they are talking about how the riders are going to CRUSH the Bombers. It's pretty funny.
At no point did they crush the Blue Bombers, and yet somehow, they're going to do it on Sunday.
I can't wait for Sunday !!

Inexplicably nearly finishing first has gone straight to their heads.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue_or_die on November 05, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
If you go onto the riders fan forum, they are talking about how the riders are going to CRUSH the Bombers. It's pretty funny.
At no point did they crush the Blue Bombers, and yet somehow, they're going to do it on Sunday.
I can't wait for Sunday !!

Not surprised whatsoever. Let's hope their players and coaches are thinking that way, too.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Leroy on November 05, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Not surprised whatsoever. Let's hope their players and coaches are thinking that way, too.

They have a secret weapon. An underwhelming second year PR player who could not figure out his responsibilities which are about as easy as a starting player could have.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blueraid on November 05, 2018, 02:57:06 PM
Inexplicably nearly finishing first has gone straight to their heads.




And getting a sniff of first is all those yokels are going to get in 18'....Crunch time....and believe me, the riders are going to get 'crunched'


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: The Zipp on November 05, 2018, 03:02:26 PM
Why would you expect that fans and players of a team that is ahead of us in the standings not think that their team should win the game - they beat us 2/3 games...

We should be relishing the opportunity to be underdogs.

I think this game could go either way.  Turnovers are going to be a huge factor - their defence takes the ball away consistently. 

We have a better offense - they have a better defence, they have home field advantage


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 05, 2018, 03:20:34 PM
There is a difference between making calculated plays, taking chances, and playing a placid/flacid game.  Every time MOS's coaching comes into question, the same people trot out the same few plays.  If those plays had gone the other way, he's a supergenius, right?  Look at all the non-traditional plays he has called, and some of the spectacular results that have come from them.  And sure, when you live by the sword, you die by the sword.  But if you ain't using a sword at all, you ain't in the fight.

The last "going for it on 3rd and short in our own territory" was purely a case of the team saying "We got this coach" and MOS giving the ball to them.  They obviously didn't got this, but pulling them off the field there might have been worse.  And now, when they come to him and say "We got this, coach" he can say "Like last time?" and either let them go get it this time with a little extra because they let coach down last time, or come off the field of their own accord...


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: wpg#1 on November 05, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Why would you expect that fans and players of a team that is ahead of us in the standings not think that their team should win the game - they beat us 2/3 games...

We should be relishing the opportunity to be underdogs.

I think this game could go either way.  Turnovers are going to be a huge factor - their defence takes the ball away consistently. 

We have a better offense - they have a better defence, they have home field advantage

Oh ?. I get it ! I understand ?. but CRUSH us ?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TBURGESS on November 05, 2018, 04:32:17 PM
There is a difference between making calculated plays, taking chances, and playing a placid/flacid game.  Every time MOS's coaching comes into question, the same people trot out the same few plays.  If those plays had gone the other way, he's a supergenius, right?  Look at all the non-traditional plays he has called, and some of the spectacular results that have come from them.  And sure, when you live by the sword, you die by the sword.  But if you ain't using a sword at all, you ain't in the fight.

The last "going for it on 3rd and short in our own territory" was purely a case of the team saying "We got this coach" and MOS giving the ball to them.  They obviously didn't got this, but pulling them off the field there might have been worse.  And now, when they come to him and say "We got this, coach" he can say "Like last time?" and either let them go get it this time with a little extra because they let coach down last time, or come off the field of their own accord...
If those plays had turned out, I'd say they were bad calls that worked, not that MOS is a supergenuis. Take the 3rd and a full 1 play for example. It's the wrong call at the time considering the score and the field position. MOS shouldn't be listening to his players. He should be making the decision and telling them what to do. That dumb call could have cost us the game. Punting was the right choice in the situation.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Norm W on November 05, 2018, 04:36:25 PM
All I got to say is this... https://www.oddsshark.com/cfl/winnipeg-saskatchewan-odds-november-11-2018-1069873 (https://www.oddsshark.com/cfl/winnipeg-saskatchewan-odds-november-11-2018-1069873)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 05, 2018, 04:37:03 PM
Why would you expect that fans and players of a team that is ahead of us in the standings not think that their team should win the game - they beat us 2/3 games...

We should be relishing the opportunity to be underdogs.

I think this game could go either way.  Turnovers are going to be a huge factor - their defence takes the ball away consistently. 

We have a better offense - they have a better defence, they have home field advantage

We have forced 7 more turnovers than the "vaunted" Sask defense..as well as gave up less points...took less penalties...gave up less kick return Td's...scored more points off of turnovers even with all their pick 6's...gave up less offensive TD's...so how do they constitute having a better defense again???

We also are tops in league in scoring...best rushing game...best turnover ratio in league at +14..scored 50 TD's to their 25 td's...only way we lose this game is if we give it away like the 2 wins they got from us earlier...and I can't see that happening...control the ball..play smart...score 20-25...we win


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue_or_die on November 05, 2018, 04:44:52 PM
We have forced 7 more turnovers than the "vaunted" Sask defense..as well as gave up less points...took less penalties...gave up less kick return Td's...scored more points off of turnovers even with all their pick 6's...gave up less offensive TD's...so how do they constitute having a better defense again???

We also are tops in league in scoring...best rushing game...best turnover ratio in league at +14..scored 50 TD's to their 25 td's...only way we lose this game is if we give it away like the 2 wins they got from us earlier...and I can't see that happening...control the ball..play smart...score 20-25...we win

Mikey likey.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 05, 2018, 05:05:15 PM
All I got to say is this... https://www.oddsshark.com/cfl/winnipeg-saskatchewan-odds-november-11-2018-1069873 (https://www.oddsshark.com/cfl/winnipeg-saskatchewan-odds-november-11-2018-1069873)

playnow.com still has us at 7.5-1 to win the cup...  pretty solid odds to bet that one, again (already have $60 at 8 to 1...)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GCn18 on November 05, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
We have forced 7 more turnovers than the "vaunted" Sask defense..as well as gave up less points...took less penalties...gave up less kick return Td's...scored more points off of turnovers even with all their pick 6's...gave up less offensive TD's...so how do they constitute having a better defense again???

We also are tops in league in scoring...best rushing game...best turnover ratio in league at +14..scored 50 TD's to their 25 td's...only way we lose this game is if we give it away like the 2 wins they got from us earlier...and I can't see that happening...control the ball..play smart...score 20-25...we win

For sure. No one is talking about our defence because they don't really have too because they have no offence...that is the only reason. Our defence is a shoe in to dominate their O, Collaros or no Collaros. The only hope of victory the Riders have is if their defence can beat us and they get some great ST plays. I personally think over the past 6 weeks our D had been better than theirs, we just don't rely on ours as much.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue girl on November 05, 2018, 08:33:22 PM
Saskatchewan did beat us 2 out of 3 games but we gave away those 2 games. I don't see this happening Sunday.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2018, 09:06:24 PM
We have forced 7 more turnovers than the "vaunted" Sask defense..as well as gave up less points...took less penalties...gave up less kick return Td's...scored more points off of turnovers even with all their pick 6's...gave up less offensive TD's...so how do they constitute having a better defense again???

We also are tops in league in scoring...best rushing game...best turnover ratio in league at +14..scored 50 TD's to their 25 td's...only way we lose this game is if we give it away like the 2 wins they got from us earlier...and I can't see that happening...control the ball..play smart...score 20-25...we win
At a boy Booch! Our D is better now.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: gobombersgo on November 05, 2018, 10:19:29 PM
Transactions Nov 5:
SSK ADD  NAT Simeon ROTTIER (OL)    Alberta  (added to practice roster)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2018, 10:40:45 PM
Transactions Nov 5:
SSK ADD  NAT Simeon ROTTIER (OL)    Alberta  (added to practice roster)
Nevis Jeffcoat and gang can crush him.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: pjrocksmb on November 05, 2018, 11:18:24 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2018/11/05/head-head-edge-western-semi-final-2/


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2018, 11:38:01 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2018/11/05/head-head-edge-western-semi-final-2/

LOL I think I like our LBs better than the Riders. Biggie MOP candidate for gods sake.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TheHypnotoad on November 05, 2018, 11:54:03 PM
LOL I think I like our LBs better than the Riders. Biggie MOP candidate for gods sake.

I'm guessing they got to the end of the list and figured they had to give the Riders the advantage somewhere, or the 3 tooth mafia would descend and attack the writer. Saying the riders have the better LB group and an evenly matched kicking dept is absolutely laughable. Bighill and Medlock are by a country mile the best players at their position in the CFL.

On paper the riders are clearly outclassed and I expect another 31-0 blowout (assuming we keep momentum after the club med vacation O'Shea gave our team last week and show up for the first half)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Fred C Dobbs on November 06, 2018, 12:00:31 AM
Saskatchewan did beat us 2 out of 3 games but we gave away those 2 games. I don't see this happening Sunday.

In the two games they beat us we lost the turnover battle 3-1 and 5-2. If we can protect the ball, we'll win the game.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 12:01:40 AM
I'm guessing they got to the end of the list and figured they had to give the Riders the advantage somewhere, or the 3 tooth mafia would descend and attack the writer. Saying the riders have the better LB group and an evenly matched kicking dept is absolutely laughable. Bighill and Medlock are by a country mile the best players at their position in the CFL.

On paper the riders are clearly outclassed and I expect another 31-0 blowout (assuming we keep momentum after the club med vacation O'Shea gave our team last week and show up for the first half)
that?s the spirit Toady


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 06, 2018, 01:42:44 AM
Had to have a laugh earlier, so I read Pedersen's preview of the WSF...


http://www.rodpedersen.com/2018/11/out-of-tunnel-breaking-down-cfl-western.html

BY: RODPEDERSEN.COM STAFF

It's an intriguing matchup in the West Division Semi-Final this Sunday when the Winnipeg Blue Bombers come to Mosaic Stadium to face the Saskatchewan Roughriders for their fourth meeting this season (3:30 pm Sask Time, TSN, 620 CKRM Rider Radio Network).

Here is an early preview:

We say early, because no one knows the absolute health of the Roughriders starting quarterback Zach Collaros. It appears like he is healthy and ready to go as he made a fan appearance during the bye week, but the Riders did make a move that got the CFL world buzzing as career backup quarterback Drew Tate was signed on Saturday.

Tate has spent the season as a defensive analyst (college coaching staffs are huge) for the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers of the Sun Belt Conference. They have had a solid season and are two wins away from qualifying for a Bowl Game for the first time in their brief history in the FBS. But the carrot of another paycheque playing football and the potential bonus money available for playing and winning playoff games had to have been too difficult to turn down.

For the Riders, this is a sign that they are in need of someone who can execute the offence if Collaros goes down again. Looking far ahead, expect yet another year of five or six deep quarterback battles at training camp next spring.


To make it simple, let?s say Collaros is good to go Sunday. He will have to be very good for the Riders to come up with their first home playoff victory since the 2013 Grey Cup.

Going head-to-head, the Winnipeg offence would have the edge over the Riders.

Saskatchewan was dead last in offensive touchdowns while Winnipeg was tops in the league. The Riders were also last in 2-and-outs and in the bottom third of the league in yards per game, first downs and plays from scrimmage.

But don't read too deep into that. The Saskatchewan offence is built for this time of season. They are in the top three in turnovers made and in time of possession. If the Green and White offence can hold onto the football, keep their mistakes to a minimum and hold the Bomber offence off the field, it will make for a much easier game.

Defensively, everyone would give the Roughriders the edge as well. It?s a big-play defence that is able to get to the quarterback and can make things difficult for Matt Nichols. Again, this isn?t a runaway because the Winnipeg offence doesn?t make that many mistakes (except to the Riders on Labour Day and the Banjo Bowl) and overall, they led the league in turnover ratio (+14 to the Riders +6).

In the end, give the edge to Saskatchewan.

Special teams is an easy checkmark for the Craig Dickenson kicking and return units. Brett Lauther had a career season kicking, Rider returners were second in punt return average and tops in kick return yardage as well. Those are the hidden yards that can flip the field.

It?s going to be sunny and cool at Mosaic Stadium on Saturday. If Saskatchewan can ride Cam Marshall running the ball, keep mistakes at a minimum and hold the Bomber offence to only a small handful of large chunk plays, the one or two big plays Saskatchewan can always come up will be the difference.

The Riders will win 25-18.


Chuckle...


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 01:53:35 AM
Actually I expected Hot rod to be even worse and more Rider bias. He gives the Blue Bombers a lot of props and that usually mean the Riders have no chance in his mind without coming out and saying it.

To say the Rider O was built for this time of year is laughable though. Marshall and Mason might be good for a fumble or 2 this time of year. Has Mason ever played in cold weather ever?

They do have good special teams and the Blue Bombers need to be wary of that.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: ModAdmin on November 06, 2018, 02:29:37 AM
Someone should share with Rod that the game is on Sunday, not Saturday.  :)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dd on November 06, 2018, 02:35:59 AM
Someone should share with Rod that the game is on Sunday, not Saturday.  :)
That?s what his article says, Sunday.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: ModAdmin on November 06, 2018, 02:50:41 AM
Except that he said:

Quote
It's going to be sunny and cool at Mosaic Stadium on Saturday. If Saskatchewan can ride Cam Marshall running the ball, keep mistakes at a minimum and hold the Bomber offence to only a small handful of large chunk plays, the one or two big plays Saskatchewan can always come up will be the difference.



Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 03:08:45 AM
Someone should share with Rod that the game is on Sunday, not Saturday.  :)
LOL I misssed that. What a tool.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: ModAdmin on November 06, 2018, 03:16:05 AM
I'm too hard on him but accuracy is important in that business.  In any event I think most here would take exception to a lot of his article.   :)

Regardless of who plays or doesn't play for the Riders on Sunday, I like out chances even in Mosaic.  Let's go Bombers.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dd on November 06, 2018, 03:43:38 AM
You better check your own accuracy, second line into his article states Sunday. Obviously pro riders in his article, it won?t be easy in mosaic for a win.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 03:55:14 AM
You better check your own accuracy, second line into his article states Sunday. Obviously pro riders in his article, it won?t be easy in mosaic for a win.
What do you mean? Check the 3rd last paragraph first sentence there mate. It states Saturday. The oaf. Hot Rod not you of course.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: ModAdmin on November 06, 2018, 03:57:57 AM
Nothing wrong with my accuracy.  I quoted him.  He made the mistake, stating in one placed the game was on Sunday and then stating later it was on Saturday.  It's not a huge deal but, in the spirit of the rivalry between the two teams,the mistake was highlighted - in good fun. I expressed an opinion about my hope and potential outcome of the game.  I agree it won't be an easy game.  Our record against the Riders this year proves that.  I do however believe we are a better overall team right now than Saskatchewan, in better health and should be primed to win the semi-final.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 04:27:43 AM
Nothing wrong with my accuracy.  I quoted him.  He made the mistake, stating in one placed the game was on Sunday and then stating later it was on Saturday.  It's not a huge deal but, in the spirit of the rivalry between the two teams,the mistake was highlighted - in good fun. I expressed an opinion about my hope and potential outcome of the game.  I agree it won't be an easy game.  Our record against the Riders this year proves that.  I do however believe we are a better overall team right now than Saskatchewan, in better health and should be primed to win the semi-final.

Riders lose because Rod typed the wrong day in his prediction analysis column, lol.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dd on November 06, 2018, 01:10:51 PM
Well, we all know that Sam Hurl is the best MLB in the land!! We suffered watching that stiff for years. That article has zero credibility!!!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 06, 2018, 01:37:07 PM
Quote
But don't read too deep into that. The Saskatchewan offence is built for this time of season

Always wary of anyone saying a unit is 'build for the playoffs'. There's no such thing. If they're good in the regular season they'll probably be good in the playoffs. Units that struggle aren't suddenly good in November.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 06, 2018, 01:39:28 PM
Nothing wrong with my accuracy.  I quoted him.  He made the mistake, stating in one placed the game was on Sunday and then stating later it was on Saturday.  It's not a huge deal but, in the spirit of the rivalry between the two teams,the mistake was highlighted - in good fun. I expressed an opinion about my hope and potential outcome of the game.  I agree it won't be an easy game.  Our record against the Riders this year proves that.  I do however believe we are a better overall team right now than Saskatchewan, in better health and should be primed to win the semi-final.

To be accurate, the Saturday reference was to the weather, not directly to the actual game...

It?s going to be sunny and cool at Mosaic Stadium on Saturday.

So, technically... not inaccurate.  


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 06, 2018, 01:42:07 PM
as I posted at MBB

Per Penison

But don't read too deep into that. The Saskatchewan offence is built for this time of season. They are in the top three in turnovers made and in time of possession. If the Green and White offence can hold onto the football, keep their mistakes to a minimum and hold the Bomber offence off the field, it will make for a much easier game

Now does this twit even read what he writes...point A) Winnipeg has the league best grind it out ground game (with leading rusher) and best 0-line which is totally healthy .B) yeah Winnipeg is in the top 3 too...but sit at number 1 C) Sask has a time of possession of 30.42 and we sit at 30.28....YET we have scored 50 offensive TD's to their 25...so wheres the advantage there???

Another article solidly solidifying what a doofuss that guy is and how he really has no clue...


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: bluebeard on November 06, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
Written for Sask consumption to put bums in the seats. Cold weather... small crowd.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Blue In BC on November 06, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
It doesn't appear the Bombers have any injuries that will prevent the starters to play. Although I never heard anything specific about Chungh IMO all the players on the 1 game IR will play.

OTOH the Riders have 20 players on either 1 game IR or 6 game IR. I have no idea who is actually able and ready to play including Collaros who isn't on the IR at the moment.

This is a game we should win.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: jayrock on November 06, 2018, 06:02:42 PM
If you go onto the riders fan forum, they are talking about how the riders are going to CRUSH the Bombers. It's pretty funny.
At no point did they crush the Blue Bombers, and yet somehow, they're going to do it on Sunday.
I can't wait for Sunday !!

It is going to be anyone's game on Sunday. I think a lot of fans are looking at that one game where the bombers handed it to the Riders 31 - 0 and are forgetting despite a week offence the Riders were still able to end the season 12-6, 6-3 at home and 7-3 against western teams, and are 2-1 against the bombers. You are not bad team if you are 12 - 6.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 06:08:52 PM
Written for Sask consumption to put bums in the seats. Cold weather... small crowd.
Holefully they have a crappy turnout.

I doubt it as crazy an atmosphere as LDC.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Buck Nasty on November 06, 2018, 06:32:03 PM
I feel like there will be a lot of bomber fans in Regina this weekend.  I'm still contemplating making the drive out.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue_or_die on November 06, 2018, 06:43:59 PM
It is going to be anyone's game on Sunday. I think a lot of fans are looking at that one game where the bombers handed it to the Riders 31 - 0 and are forgetting despite a week offence the Riders were still able to end the season 12-6, 6-3 at home and 7-3 against western teams, and are 2-1 against the bombers. You are not bad team if you are 12 - 6.

And no one has said the Riders are a bad team. To "crush" us with no basis is pretty silly, though. Par for the course I suppose.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: jayrock on November 06, 2018, 07:05:43 PM
And no one has said the Riders are a bad team. To "crush" us with no basis is pretty silly, though. Par for the course I suppose.

Yeep each team has fans that are going to talk trash. Bad trash at that by just saying things like "We will crush Sask no matter who they put in at QB." Buy ya par for the course.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GCn18 on November 06, 2018, 07:08:11 PM
Yeep each team has fans that are going to talk trash. Bad trash at that by just saying things like "We will crush Sask no matter who they put in at QB." Buy ya par for the course.

No basis? Us crushing you 31-0 is a pretty good basis for that belief imo.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Donny C on November 06, 2018, 07:14:26 PM
I hope the Bombers win!

If they do, I am more likely to commit to going to the Grey Cup, even before they face Calgary.

I don't know if WPG will beat Calgary either...but with a new CBA I have to think that the Bombers may not be quite the same team next year.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue_or_die on November 06, 2018, 07:41:20 PM
Yeep each team has fans that are going to talk trash. Bad trash at that by just saying things like "We will crush Sask no matter who they put in at QB." Buy ya par for the course.

But there's good reason to think Wpg would play well against Sask offense given the QB situation. I can't think of, and have not seen, a good reason for Sask to win other than hoping their defense gives them 14 points like they were gifted in the BB.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 07:52:40 PM
I feel like there will be a lot of bomber fans in Regina this weekend.  I'm still contemplating making the drive out.
Do it come say Hi to Goldie


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: jayrock on November 06, 2018, 07:59:00 PM
I hope the Bombers win!

If they do, I am more likely to commit to going to the Grey Cup, even before they face Calgary.

I don't know if WPG will beat Calgary either...but with a new CBA I have to think that the Bombers may not be quite the same team next year.

Donny you need to go this year. It is best to just book it and go. If you don't you will never go. GOOOOOOO


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Donny C on November 06, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
I know...I went when it was in WPG.

Lots to factor in this year:

The cons:
*We will have just got back from a family vacation in Florida on Thursday (flight for Grey Cup leaves Friday). So money isn't overly accessible.
*Do I really want to go and watch a team other than WPG? Not really. At that point I'd prefer to watch on T.V

The pros
*Some decent flight prices from low cost airline right now
*I can stay at my sisters place that is a 5 minute drive from the stadum
*Buddies from Edmonton have and extra ticket I can buy in Section S for $300, so I can sit with people I know.


Next year's Grey Cup is in Calgary...I have a sister that lives there also. Would hate to commit to going this year, not have the Bombers in it, then have the Bombers make the big game in 2019...and try to convince my wife that I should go for the 2nd year in a row.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 06, 2018, 08:50:44 PM
It is going to be anyone's game on Sunday. I think a lot of fans are looking at that one game where the bombers handed it to the Riders 31 - 0 and are forgetting despite a week offence the Riders were still able to end the season 12-6, 6-3 at home and 7-3 against western teams, and are 2-1 against the bombers. You are not bad team if you are 12 - 6.
you can be a seriously flawed and lucky team tho...which can disappear (luck) in an instance...but your flaws won't anytime soon until you get a legit QB and a capable OC...Neither of which I see happening in the next while


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 06, 2018, 08:54:10 PM
And no one has said the Riders are a bad team. To "crush" us with no basis is pretty silly, though. Par for the course I suppose.
Considering in their two wins they barely scraped by...and was when our QB and offence was playing the worst it ever has had since Nichols took over...also in one of the wins they didn't even score an offensive touchdown...they got a gift win in Banjo Bowl and the longer they deny it..the better...and in 5 games at New Mosaic the Bombers are 2-2-1..hardly been death valley for them


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 06, 2018, 08:56:38 PM
and in 5 games at New Mosaic the Bombers are 2-2-1..

The Bombers' record at Mosaic 2.0 is 1-2 (1-1 in 2017 and 0-1 this season). Or are you including pre-season games?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 06, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
yeah I did...game is a game in my eyes


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 06, 2018, 09:50:03 PM
Plus we won the last game at old Mosaic as well.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 07, 2018, 02:26:50 AM
Of course Dirty Davis Sanchez takes Regina.. figures. Once a ***** always one. Milt and Hank take the Blue Bombers.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2018, 02:41:18 AM
But there's good reason to think Wpg would play well against Sask offense given the QB situation. I can't think of, and have not seen, a good reason for Sask to win other than hoping their defense gives them 14 points like they were gifted in the BB.

you can be a seriously flawed and lucky team tho...which can disappear (luck) in an instance...but your flaws won't anytime soon until you get a legit QB and a capable OC...Neither of which I see happening in the next while

Nailed it for the SSK fan(s).  WPG is a great team on all 3 phases.  SSK has 2.  CFL is an offensive league, the rules all favor O, so for SSK to have no O means they have a major handicap.

SSK has their record on the back of luck.  No matter how good the D, scoring on D is requires major luck.  So do ST returns for TDs.  The problem with luck is you can't rely on it.

Might SSK have great luck on D and ST in WSF?  Sure.  Maybe.  I doubt it.  Will SSK have great luck in 3 games to win the GC?  Nearly impossible.  I can't recall a team that has won the GC with no O and a lucky D for years/decades.  The odds are simply too great.

WPG just needs to play decent ball like they've done for 2 months.  That's it.  If WPG gets some luck too, it's all over for SSK.  SSK needs to play the best ball of their year and have major luck.  That's a big ask.

Plus, who is hungrier?  Who wants it more?  After being denied as a very good team in '16 and '17, Nichols/Harris/MOS & co are champing at the bit.  They will not be denied.  What does SSK have?  A ragtag group of random FAer mercenaries, the vast majority of which are new to the team, zero player loyalty, and absolutely no cohesion.  Jones focuses solely on brute force and talent, to the detriment of the locker room.  WPG guys will go to war as brothers, SSK not so much.  The beauty of football is the better team tends to pull ahead by the end, even if the poorer team gets some luck.  I expect it to be clear which time is the better one all game long.

If there's anything in the CFL that's a slam dunk, this game is it.  I think SSK fans know this and are very afraid: actually, probably resigned to their fate, meaning they'll probably take the loss well because it's so expected.  I really think they'll all be walking out by mid-3rd quarter.

I've got my hotel booked now and I'll see you all there!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2018, 03:44:25 AM
Only 1 practice this week?  Is this normal before a WSF??  If it was me I'd have meetings and practices with players all week.  How do they come up with any new trick plays?  Do they really just stand pat with the playbook as it was after game 18?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 07, 2018, 05:04:02 AM
Nailed it for the SSK fan(s).  WPG is a great team on all 3 phases.  SSK has 2.  CFL is an offensive league, the rules all favor O, so for SSK to have no O means they have a major handicap.

SSK has their record on the back of luck.  No matter how good the D, scoring on D is requires major luck.  So do ST returns for TDs.  The problem with luck is you can't rely on it.

Might SSK have great luck on D and ST in WSF?  Sure.  Maybe.  I doubt it.  Will SSK have great luck in 3 games to win the GC?  Nearly impossible.  I can't recall a team that has won the GC with no O and a lucky D for years/decades.  The odds are simply too great.

WPG just needs to play decent ball like they've done for 2 months.  That's it.  If WPG gets some luck too, it's all over for SSK.  SSK needs to play the best ball of their year and have major luck.  That's a big ask.

Plus, who is hungrier?  Who wants it more?  After being denied as a very good team in '16 and '17, Nichols/Harris/MOS & co are champing at the bit.  They will not be denied.  What does SSK have?  A ragtag group of random FAer mercenaries, the vast majority of which are new to the team, zero player loyalty, and absolutely no cohesion.  Jones focuses solely on brute force and talent, to the detriment of the locker room.  WPG guys will go to war as brothers, SSK not so much.  The beauty of football is the better team tends to pull ahead by the end, even if the poorer team gets some luck.  I expect it to be clear which time is the better one all game long.

If there's anything in the CFL that's a slam dunk, this game is it.  I think SSK fans know this and are very afraid: actually, probably resigned to their fate, meaning they'll probably take the loss well because it's so expected.  I really think they'll all be walking out by mid-3rd quarter.

I've got my hotel booked now and I'll see you all there!

going to Wayne?s world pre game party?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2018, 05:19:47 AM
going to Wayne?s world pre game party?

What's the address of it?  Can't find it anywhere.  I'm staying at the hotel closest to Mosaic so there's no reason I can't walk to anywhere close.  What's the general times it runs?

My first time to Mosaic!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Norm W on November 07, 2018, 12:08:29 PM
Only 1 practice this week?  Is this normal before a WSF??  If it was me I'd have meetings and practices with players all week.  How do they come up with any new trick plays?  Do they really just stand pat with the playbook as it was after game 18?

Wednesday, Thursday and Friday... By my count that's at least three, but math was never a strong subject for me.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 07, 2018, 01:10:24 PM
Only 1 practice this week?  Is this normal before a WSF??  If it was me I'd have meetings and practices with players all week.  How do they come up with any new trick plays?  Do they really just stand pat with the playbook as it was after game 18?


I guarantee you that closed practice last week was used for WSF prep and anything new they are going to implement for the play-offs...gives the players the extra week to learn and study it..


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 07, 2018, 01:21:05 PM
What's the address of it?  Can't find it anywhere.  I'm staying at the hotel closest to Mosaic so there's no reason I can't walk to anywhere close.  What's the general times it runs?

My first time to Mosaic!

I?ll definitely find out and PM you. It?s right across the street from old Mosaic south/western corner lot I believe. I think our bus will get there around 1-1:30


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2018, 08:22:21 PM
Wednesday, Thursday and Friday... By my count that's at least three, but math was never a strong subject for me.

Oh, I was going by the sticky practice thread at the top of the list, and as of yesterday it was saying there was just 1 practice.  I guess the full week wasn't decided/reported on at that point.  It's up there now!

Phew, I was getting a bit freaked out MOS was giving our guys the week off!!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: bamafan1991 on November 08, 2018, 02:49:19 AM
Roomate and I are making the trip. Sitting up in section 612, will have our cowbells ready to make some noise. I attended the 2017 LDC and very much looking forward to a much more competitive game. Should be fun. Looks like it will be around -10, feeling even colder than that around game time. Should be fun. GO BLUE!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 08, 2018, 08:52:51 AM
Roomate and I are making the trip. Sitting up in section 612, will have our cowbells ready to make some noise. I attended the 2017 LDC and very much looking forward to a much more competitive game. Should be fun. Looks like it will be around -10, feeling even colder than that around game time. Should be fun. GO BLUE!
awesome Bama! Enjoy what should be a fun ride. GOLD MEMBER.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Sec223 on November 08, 2018, 11:33:33 AM
Price of Regina trip. $250
Hanging out with GOLDMEMBER. Priceless !! Go Bombers !!
The bus will be rockin. Bigger party coming home after the win.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 08, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
Price of Regina trip. $250
Hanging out with GOLDMEMBER. Priceless !! Go Bombers !!
The bus will be rockin. Bigger party coming home after the win.
U are to kind Secy.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 09, 2018, 05:43:11 AM
Boy, sure is quiet around here for a week before a WSF... not much talk about how we'll beat SSK specifically.  No real talk about schemes.  It's kind of strange.  Last year I think we were more chatty?

A bit similar on the Rider forums.  I think because it's WPG vs SSK it's causing everyone to pause a little bit.  I'm spending a bit of free time watching the painful LDC and BB to see if there's anything we have to worry about, or any tips I think we can use.  Only thing I've come up with so far is our worst enemy is ourselves: if we focus on ball security we will be jut fine.  Oh ya, and SSK holds like mad and is real nasty on OL: they love to tackle (not block) DL.

This week is taking forever.  I've never had such a long week.  And it's only Thursday night.  Ugh.  I never thought I'd say this, but I'll be happy to get to Regina.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on November 09, 2018, 11:25:12 AM
Two really good teams, on "hot streaks" facing off. depending which stats you manipulate one team is better than the other. Either team can/should win this game. The general feeling from fans of both sides and experts is takeaways, whichever team is better with protecting the ball will win. I believe both teams are 10-0 when winning the turnover battle.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: WpgGuyInToronto on November 09, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
Turnovers and field position will be huge. My concern is special teams and returning kicks/punts. If we're always starting on our own 20 it's gonna be a long day. For what it's worth most of the CFL fans here are rooting for the Bombers  :)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GCn18 on November 09, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
U are to kind Secy.

No kidding. Whatcha paying for your PR department Bonger? lol BTW, now that old mary jane is legal now maybe the mods will let you bring back the Blue Bonger.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: buckzumhoff on November 09, 2018, 02:08:14 PM
As long as our receivers play well , ball control, I hope  our punting is better, Medlock has to kick away from their returners. I like the way Lankford kicks, kicks the ball deeper.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Norm W on November 09, 2018, 02:17:32 PM
I like the way Lankford kicks, kicks the ball deeper.

True, but the downside was the hang-time on his punts, it was lacking. Clearly the winner in the kick-off department over Medlock, I would have no hesitation letting him do the kick-off duties.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: wpg#1 on November 09, 2018, 02:22:25 PM
Boy, sure is quiet around here for a week before a WSF... not much talk about how we'll beat SSK specifically.  No real talk about schemes.  It's kind of strange.  Last year I think we were more chatty?

A bit similar on the Rider forums.  I think because it's WPG vs SSK it's causing everyone to pause a little bit.  I'm spending a bit of free time watching the painful LDC and BB to see if there's anything we have to worry about, or any tips I think we can use.  Only thing I've come up with so far is our worst enemy is ourselves: if we focus on ball security we will be jut fine.  Oh ya, and SSK holds like mad and is real nasty on OL: they love to tackle (not block) DL.

This week is taking forever.  I've never had such a long week.  And it's only Thursday night.  Ugh.  I never thought I'd say this, but I'll be happy to get to Regina.

The rider fan forum is a joke. There's a WHOLE LOT of talk about nothing. They spend most of their time cutting down the city or the fans they are playing. Pages and pages of nothing !!
Yes, this week has been the slowest week ever !! 


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Norm W on November 09, 2018, 02:35:25 PM
Yes, this week has been the slowest week ever !! 

Chalking it up to quiet optimism... either that or everybody is holding their breath until we get past the divisional nemesis known as the Riders.  :-\ 


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: drahgon on November 09, 2018, 03:12:25 PM
The previous 2 years of playoff failures is still fresh in my head. I am truly hoping that this year is different but am only cautiously optimistic. The 2011 Bomber's rode a hot defense all the way to the grey cup finals after all...


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: dinodesi on November 09, 2018, 03:15:59 PM
and lankford could chase down a returner if needed


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 09, 2018, 03:25:10 PM
I'm closing down my shop on Sunday so I can watch the games... (well, truth be told, its Remembrance Day, the main reason for closing)

Big poker tournament in Regine this week.. almost bit the bullet and killed two birds with one stone...  but I wimped out on both...


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GCn18 on November 09, 2018, 03:31:36 PM
The rider fan forum is a joke. There's a WHOLE LOT of talk about nothing. They spend most of their time cutting down the city or the fans they are playing. Pages and pages of nothing !!
Yes, this week has been the slowest week ever !! 


Riderfans, you got the same number of active posters as here only they have a lot more hot air to expel.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: booch on November 09, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
yeah they like to boast of numbers in regards to posters...number of padges per thread..slow game day thread...yadda..yadda..but fail to realize..there are 2 boards for Bomber fans...there were 3 at one point...A page of threads on both Winnipeg sites is 25..as opposed to 15 on their sites...and that they don't have an active chat room that takes up a lot of traffic on game day from a game day thread....but they can revel in their self gratifying ways...if anything makes for good entertainment


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 09, 2018, 05:06:19 PM
This has got to be the busiest in the league.


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Stretch on November 09, 2018, 05:09:58 PM
The rider fan forum is a joke.

Well at the best of times it isn't exactly THE place for intelligent discussion.  ;)


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 09, 2018, 05:11:15 PM
I'm closing down my shop on Sunday so I can watch the games... (well, truth be told, its Remembrance Day, the main reason for closing)

Big poker tournament in Regine this week.. almost bit the bullet and killed two birds with one stone...  but I wimped out on both...
there is a big poker tournament there?


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: wpg#1 on November 09, 2018, 05:17:22 PM
Well at the best of times it isn't exactly THE place for intelligent discussion.  ;)

True, but a whole lot more than "riderfans"


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 10, 2018, 04:44:44 AM
there is a big poker tournament there?

https://casinoregina.com/gaming/poker/harvest-poker-classic


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: theaardvark on November 10, 2018, 03:17:37 PM
Getting some love from an ex-player.  Very surprised (and pleased) to see this tweet...


T.j. Heath@TjHeath34

Dang I woke up thinking CFL playoff football was comin on today. It?s tmr tho. Im takin Winnipeg for the grey cup tho! Don?t @ me!



Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on November 10, 2018, 04:47:23 PM
Getting some love from an ex-player.  Very surprised (and pleased) to see this tweet...


T.j. Heath@TjHeath34

Dang I woke up thinking CFL playoff football was comin on today. It?s tmr tho. Im takin Winnipeg for the grey cup tho! Don?t @ me!


love it....if there ever was a time or a need it's this year!   I picked the Cats and the Bombers to clash in the Coupe de Grey this season!   Here's hoping!!


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: NewBlue on November 10, 2018, 04:51:47 PM
yeah they like to boast of numbers in regards to posters...number of padges per thread..slow game day thread...yadda..yadda..but fail to realize..there are 2 boards for Bomber fans...there were 3 at one point...A page of threads on both Winnipeg sites is 25..as opposed to 15 on their sites...and that they don't have an active chat room that takes up a lot of traffic on game day from a game day thread....but they can revel in their self gratifying ways...if anything makes for good entertainment

What's the other Bomber board?  The one one the CFL site?  Only a couple post there. 


Title: Re: Nov 11 - West Semifinals
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 10, 2018, 05:53:43 PM
Getting some love from an ex-player.  Very surprised (and pleased) to see this tweet...


T.j. Heath@TjHeath34

Dang I woke up thinking CFL playoff football was comin on today. It?s tmr tho. Im takin Winnipeg for the grey cup tho! Don?t @ me!



Why surprised? He's a classy guy and enjoyed his time with the Bombers. It's great he's rooting for the blue and gold!

What's the other Bomber board?  The one one the CFL site?  Only a couple post there. 

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