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Title: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Jesse on November 02, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
Quarterbacks:

Before last season, we had gone from 2009-2016 without a QB throwing for 20 TDs. The high during those years was Steven Jyles chucking 19 in 2009. Thankfully, Matt Nichols ended that in 2017, throwing for 28. He had been on pace for 30 all season, but we went a little cold late last season and he was sat during the final game I believe. That one-year streak will end, as Nichols is likely sitting while stuck at 18.

A Bomber QB has not thrown for more than 30 TDs since Khari Jones threw 46 in 2002.

Receivers:

Darvin Adams will finish with 1000 yards in back-to-back seasons. This is the first a Bomber has done that since Terrence Edwards from 2010-2012. Adams took a bit of a dive during that losing streak (along with Nichols), but has still been our most consistent threat in a few years.

I want to say something about how we have two Canadian receivers above 500 yards receiving. But the Bomber site's stats only go back to 2004, and I'm too young to remember having multiple good Canadian receivers.

Running backs:

Andrew Harris will finish with the most rushing yards since Fred Reid's 1396 in 2010. And will be the first RB to post back-to-back 1000 yards seasons since Reid in 09/10.

Defence:

Adam Bighill. The first Bomber defender to have 100 defensive tackles since Barrin Simpson in 2007.

No Bomber has had more than 10 sacks since Jamal Westerman had 17 in 2015.



Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Stats Junkie on November 02, 2018, 01:54:53 PM
I want to say something about how we have two Canadian receivers above 500 yards receiving. But the Bomber site's stats only go back to 2004, and I'm too young to remember having multiple good Canadian receivers.
1991
Rob Crifo 39-775
Rick House 39-607
Warren Hudson 47-537

1976-1985 Blue Bombers had 2 or more non-import receivers with 500+ yards 7 times

1985 Bombers had 3 receivers
Jerome Erdman 33-538
Sean Kehoe 54-513
Joe Poplawski 75-1271

* for older stats try https://www.statscrew.com/football/l-CFL


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Jesse on November 02, 2018, 02:04:29 PM
Since 1991. That's incredible.

And with Petermann waiting in the wings.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: blue_or_die on November 02, 2018, 02:23:03 PM
I see you've not yet all healed up from your surgery?  8)

Great points.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Jesse on November 02, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
I see you've not yet all healed up from your surgery?  8)

Great points.

I was looking up stats while the baby was still asleep. It was a glorious morning.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 02, 2018, 06:20:32 PM
Since 1991. That's incredible.

And with Petermann waiting in the wings.
A players future whom I am most excited about going forward..


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: pjrocksmb on November 03, 2018, 02:01:30 AM
Nice to see Adams have a great year, he is a #1 receiver even thought many haven't supported him that much in that regard.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Jesse on November 03, 2018, 03:34:18 AM
Nice to see Adams have a great year, he is a #1 receiver even thought many haven't supported him that much in that regard.

I certainly wouldn't call it a great year. Many of Nichols' struggles involved good passes going straight through Adams' outstretched hands. But he's had good games.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: ichabod_crane on November 03, 2018, 12:17:41 PM
1981:

Player           No.   Yds   Avg.   Long   TDs
Joe Poplawski   84   1271   15.1   55    8
Rick House   61   1102   18.1   81    10



https://www.statscrew.com/football/stats/t-CFLWPG/y-1981


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: ichabod_crane on November 03, 2018, 12:25:20 PM
Willard Reaves also had back to back 1000+ yards rushing seasons in 1984-1985, then another 1000+ yards in 1987.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Stats Junkie on November 08, 2018, 03:45:14 PM
Here are some stats that I have been tracking this season.

QB Drive Chart
(https://npewra.bn.files.1drv.com/y4moVfNn7ZZpTHYvMNrf93vP5-6sMI3_GS7WnLW-MbSCfNrtFBlBCyN0WoDYRpZ6hUrQuvvh6u7W-O5adZjJNgd1aMcPnqNYrRasCPcc68Y15OYNPjc7pQ_K7xgg-esNuaCJ-c2YMtPRaERP94dOs00h_eL9BYuvMnEz0NLrynVdw-jbIXZg28EA4J2DjyVNmKG4vJIFT0eaFsEGodiRMytCg?width=787&height=485&cropmode=none)

I started compiling the drive chart 4 years ago because it was a better way of assessing the effectiveness of a QB.

The two main categories are:
Yards per drive (yards advanced = pass yds, rush yds, losses & net penalties)
Points per drive

Does it really matter if the offence scores a TD via pass or run?
A high completion percentage looks great, but is the offence effective if the QB goes 4 for 4 and the drive ends in a punt?

The pass efficiency rating is outdated. An average score is based on:
50% completion percentage
7.00 yards per pass attempt
5.0 TDs per 100 pass attempts
5.5 Ints per 100 pass attempts


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Stats Junkie on November 08, 2018, 03:54:57 PM
Punting Stats

I have divided the punting stats into punts from Own side of centre where a punter can punt for distance and Opposition side of centre where ball placement is more essential than distance.

Note: I have been tracking net punts as distance from LOS on punt to LOS on next scrimmage play. This is more of a coverage based method which takes into account penalties for & against.

(https://ppcxiq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m4_SWEGOHjNvjx58vDKNUnKAsDbbg0_FejoSZhBSVIYWEpeZXCHdGDKkPZvXfJpCydv8ORcycU4LdPSlN6v_x3kV7W5Z0qXjbRuNYkSGnxSseyKF0NTcK36AUtQ2-tcr_xwK13ZaopDi9tNv7TlPrFbr4GaC3XgjIYIUwqfwXf5XOBykZdPkmf4bMJxvigE-Fl1ibFmmFmTbY-It9euucBw?width=496&height=293&cropmode=none)

In this graphic, Justin Medlock is on the bottom end of the second tier of punters.

(https://ojewra.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mj_Wtsn0KWch6bho-oDrCf_zTgHeUWbT8QnW_1Z2mROILfwnbIFxAv7-2NjI18SVpCs5EqXWwHwSaIVc3ivCFrutc8q5MsDYQDxA4GWj4i8XItWLhpVA9U_FbWasx7fzVuOQ4gE_Ux_4afnI0EL2p0bG3zcaQ5MxTAl6kK5LQ8y69nKypCY3beKSq40qoMZ9pQQtAW7kffbThnJ5MGBRQnw?width=622&height=272&cropmode=none)

When punting from the opposition side of centre, a number of items need to be accounted for.

Justin Medlock seems to provide a great combination of few punts single (0), and pinning the opposition deep (66.7% of the time). It is a bonus that he also has a decent net average from this range.

(https://n5ewra.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m1Gi5ZLmZjFltkKZA0-DryDk58S6YgYac_MQcC-bFs4E475aflKw1oug9fWmLPWAJb-r49MKcwqm-PrLz47_P4Y_DLtJWvj10tD0SirO_8DeqsxfDyPWqXpgaaZg6YOFchfcDSyq36Z_ajgmtwFPatCs3xwlL9n7qZoUVleayFdLDHQsBZAesru_j40885YZ7GVqBst8VIZtn-ZeP_wcPCA?width=432&height=245&cropmode=none)

The punter has a degree of control over some penalties charged to the cover team on punts. These include punts out of bounds and no yards calls.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Stats Junkie on November 08, 2018, 03:56:24 PM
Here are the penalty numbers for 2018

(https://o5ewra.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mAi5gv6psuWYc4mBhcIYVwjA6O17VNx2F4C1bVEOpdWoLhBDq5kZ1bF9Ck95_Ynnkijl8qWR6x4FlnR4LC1rDT4d_nqeieBj7Rbm9kakanCS8KUgUNntdUCuqh4ItwG19oZYHt7h3OFoVfiOnv46wymUVJpXPhyoCqpqMyrzILXSPvQuf2z6uVVo4YCzWfrUGY7d9hR4eIXR-2avjj581IA?width=364&height=779&cropmode=none)


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Stats Junkie on November 08, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
This is my adjusted field goal percentage chart

If you look at the final CFL stats, Rene Paredes finished second with a 91.1% success rate. Sean Whyte & Brett Lauther tied for 3rd at 90.0%.

Paredes benefits from trying a lot of shorter field goals:
Paredes tries 51.1% of his attempts inside the 30. Whyte only attempts 25.0% of his attempts from this range and Lauther is at 28.3%.

(https://p5cxiq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m_FtMcF_FphBwzLoTEElLD2dXx9HkaLONRjxxMyY-OEEz6GHhgmQ5FyRH5-84aAY9js1zJPDOO0q_8LJlA-rNl4SLXT1K0OmpZavcvKZZslUG5xGPNjBYVwKid7HIx9cKUSx6ZUGonpDbgeUIBrZPeyUitDtmkN9Xtti3yynhO-f9s89tNiNFbu05XYpos-ttQRkI5ahddSx_MnRckSaqbA?width=804&height=374&cropmode=none)


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: trapper on November 08, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
Very interesting stuff...thanks for sharing Stats Junkie!


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Tehedra on November 08, 2018, 06:02:43 PM
Here are some stats that I have been tracking this season.

QB Drive Chart
(https://npewra.bn.files.1drv.com/y4moVfNn7ZZpTHYvMNrf93vP5-6sMI3_GS7WnLW-MbSCfNrtFBlBCyN0WoDYRpZ6hUrQuvvh6u7W-O5adZjJNgd1aMcPnqNYrRasCPcc68Y15OYNPjc7pQ_K7xgg-esNuaCJ-c2YMtPRaERP94dOs00h_eL9BYuvMnEz0NLrynVdw-jbIXZg28EA4J2DjyVNmKG4vJIFT0eaFsEGodiRMytCg?width=787&height=485&cropmode=none)

I started compiling the drive chart 4 years ago because it was a better way of assessing the effectiveness of a QB.

The two main categories are:
Yards per drive (yards advanced = pass yds, rush yds, losses & net penalties)
Points per drive

Does it really matter if the offence scores a TD via pass or run?
A high completion percentage looks great, but is the offence effective if the QB goes 4 for 4 and the drive ends in a punt?

The pass efficiency rating is outdated. An average score is based on:
50% completion percentage
7.00 yards per pass attempt
5.0 TDs per 100 pass attempts
5.5 Ints per 100 pass attempts

That is some awesome information you have Stats Junkie!


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 10, 2018, 02:54:14 AM
Great work Junkie.  Interesting that Nichols is tops in Pts/Drive.  Like you said, that could be the most important stat.  Of course, that is partly due to our great place kicker.  Goes to show that WFC knows how to build a well-rounded complementary team.


Title: Re: Season stats/milestones
Post by: Tiger on November 11, 2018, 08:59:35 PM
Super interesting.  I hat are your conclusions?