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Title: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 01:30:22 AM
Current roster:
                                                                                Contract length                            Salary
Matt Nichols             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017             2018   2019                             420 000
Alex Ross                 QB   I   signed Apr 19 2018                 2018   2019*
Chris Streveler          QB   I   signed May 4 2018                  2018   2019
Bryan Bennett           QB   I  signed May 25 2018                 2018*

Andrew Harris           RB   N    extended May 20 2018            2018   2019   2020                    195 000
Kienan LaFrance        RB   N   signed Feb 13 2018                 2018                                        80 000
Johnny Augustine      RB  N     signed July 13 2018                2018   2019*
Mike Miller                FB   N    signed Mar 3 2017                  2018

Darvin Adams           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017              2018   2019
Weston Dressler       WR   I   re-signed Dec 19 2017              2018  
Kenbrell Thompkins    WR   I   signed July 26 2018                  2018   2019
Drew Wolitarsky       WR   N   signed Oct 5 2017                    2018
Nic Demski              WR   N    signed Feb 13 2018                  2018                                     150 000
Rashaun Simonise     WR   N    signed May 11 2018                 2018   2019   2020
Daniel Petermann      WR   N    signed May 14 2018                 2018   2019*

Stanley Bryant         OL   I   re-signed Dec 12 2017                 2018   2019                            200 000
Jermarcus Hardrick    OL   I   extended Nov 16 2017                2018
Manase Foketi          OL   I   re-signed Dec 26 2017                2018   2019
Matthias Goossen      C   N   extended Dec 16 2015                 2018
Sukh Chugh             OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017                 2018
Patrick Neufeld         OL  N   extended Nov 16 2017                 2018   2019
Michael Couture       OL   N   signed May 23 2016                    2018                                       75 000
Qadr Spooner          OL   N    re-signed                                 2018   2019*

Justin Medlock           K   I   re-signed Nov 30 2017                 2018                                  
Chad Rempel            LS   N  re-signed Dec 19 2016                 2018

Drake  Nevis            DT   I   re-signed Dec 28 2017                 2018          
Cory Johnson           DT   I   singed May 24 2017                    2018
Jake Thomas            DT   N   signed May 22 2018                   2018
Tristan Okpalaugo     DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017                       2018                                      178 000
Jackson Jeffcoat      DE    I    signed Feb 21 2017                    2018
Craig Roh                DE   I    signed Feb 16 2018                     2018   2019
Trent Corney           DE   N    signed May 24 2016                   2018

Ian Wild                  LB   I    re-signed Jan 8 2018                   2018           
Jovan Santos-Knox   LB   I    signed July12 2017                      2018
Adam Bighill              LB  I      signed May 19 2018                   2018                                      175 000
Jesse Briggs             LB   N    re-signed Feb 13 2017                2018
Shayne Gauthier       LB   N    signed May 23 2016                    2018
Thomas Miles           LB   N    signed Mar 4 2017                      2018
Frank Renaud           LB   N     re-signed                                 2018   2019*
Frederic Plesius        LB    N    signed July 24 2018                    2018   2019*
Maurice Leggett       DB   I    re-signed Feb 6 2018                   2018         

Chris Randle             DB   I    re-signed Jan 23 2018                 2018   2019      
Kevin Fogg               DB   I     re-signed Feb 12 2018               2018           
Brandon Alexander     DB   I     signed April 17 2017                  2018
Anthony Gaitor          DB   I     signed Feb 1 2018                     2018   2019
Chandler Fenner        DB   I      signed Feb 13 2018                   2018   2019                          130 000
Tyneil Cooper           DB   I      signed June 28 2018                  2018   2019
Marcus Sayles          DB   I     signed June 28 2018                   2018   2019
Taylor Loffler           DB   N    signed  May 23 2016                   2018
Derek Jones             DB   N     re-signed Nov 20 2017               2018   2019
Brendan Morgan       DB   N     signed Jan 24 2018                     2018   2019*
Jeff Hecht                DB   N    signed July 13 2018                     2018   2019*
Abu Conteh              DB   N    signed July 20 2018                     2018   2019*

* contract length is not confirmed

Practice Roster:
Cody Speller            OL   N   signed Dec 11 2017                   signed to PR June 9 2018
Corey Washington     WR   I    signed Feb 20 2018                  signed to PR June 9 2018
Robert Priester         DB   I     signed May 22 2018                  signed to PR June 9 2018
Ryan Lankford          WR   I    signed Nov 10 2017                   signed to PR June 18 2018
Brandin Bryant         DL   I     signed May 10 2018                   signed to PR June 28 2018
Chris Humes             DB   I    signed July 19 2018                   signed to PR July 19 2018
Tylor Henry             WR   N    signed July 13 2018                   signed to PR July 20 2018
Timothy Flanders       RB   I    re-signed Nov 29 2017                signed to PR July 26 2018
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I     signed June 28 2018                   signed to PR July 26 2018 
John Rush                FB   N    signed June 28 2018                  signed to PR Aug 9 2018


Suspended List:
Chris Givens            WR   I   signed Oct 19 2017                transferred on May 20 2018
Dominique Reed        WR   I   signed Apr 9 2018                  transferred on May 20 2018
Eric Patterson          DB   I    signed Jan 11 2018                transferred on May 20 2018

Once a Bomber, Always a Bomber;
Dominique Davis        QB   I   re-signed Jan 4 2017           released from active roster Feb 1 2018 -signed with Ottawa Feb 12 2018
Dan LeFevour           QB   I   signed Feb 16 2017             pending free agent - retired Feb 10 2018
Chris Normand           FB   N   signed May 21 2015           free agent
Clarence Denmark     WR   I   re-signed Feb 17 2017         free agent 
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N   extended Dec 23 2014        free agent    - signed with OTT Feb 14 2018
Travis Bond             OL   I   signed Mar 8 2016                free agent   - signed with SSK Feb 14 2018
Jake  Thomas           DT  N   extended Nov 30 2015          free agent
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N   signed May 7 2015              free agent    - signed with MTL Feb 14 2018
Kyle Knox                LB   I    signed Dec 10 2015              free agent 
Sam Hurl                 LB   N    re-signed Feb 16 2017          free agent   - signed with SSK Feb 14 2018
TJ Heath                 DB   I    acquired Sept 10 2016          free agent   - signed with TOR Feb 14 2018  
Josh Straughan         QB   I   signed Jan 18 2018               released Apr 16 2018
Marcus Leak            WR   I    signed Apr 22 2018              released May 1 2018
L'Damian Washington WR   I   signed Oct 13 2017              released May 1 2018
Garry Brown             WR   I   signed Jan 18 2018              released May 1 2018
Jerome Lane             WR   I   signed Apr 9 2018                released May 1 2018
Mitchell Baines         WR   N   signed Feb 14 2018              released May 1 2018
Cierre Wood              RB   I    signed Apr 18 2018              released May 1 2018
Zach Bauman            RB   I    signed Jan 18 2018              released May 1 2018
Tyler Stewart           QB   I   signed Apr 19 2018               released May 1 2018
Cody Prewitt            DB   I     signed Mar 19 2018             released May 1 2018
Sam Brown              DB   I     signed Dec 29 2017             released May 1 2018
Robert Porter           DB   I      re-signed                          released May 1 2018
Tevin Homer            DB   I     signed Feb 20 2018              released May 1 2018
Antoine Johnson       DB   I      signed Apr 22 2018             released May 1 2018
Kevin Short              DB   I     signed Mar 19 2018             released May 1 2018
Malik Foreman          DB   I      signed Apr 3 2018               released May 1 2018
Philip Nelson             QB   I     signed Jan 18 2018              released May 10 2018
Darian Durant           QB   I      signed Jan 20 2018             retired May 11  2018      - received 70 000 signing bonus
Matt Coates            WR   N     signed Feb 14 2017             released May 14 2018
Earl Wolff                DB   I      signed Apr 16 2018              released May 15 2018
Brett Blaszko           WR   N    signed May 1 2018               released May 15 2018
Travis Howard          DB   I     signed Dec 29 2017              transferred to retired list May 16 2018
Ezra Robinson          DB   I      signed Apr 17 2018              released May 16 2018
Brisly Estime             WR   I   signed May 16 2018               released May 16 2018
Tharold Simon          DB   I      signed May 14 2018             retired May 20 2018
Zavian Bingham        DB   I     signed Jan 18 2018               retired May 21 2018
Tony Stevens          WR   I    signed Apr 10 2018                released May 22 2018
Ian Marouf               DL   N   re-signed Nov 2017                released May 24 2018
Chinedu Oparaku       LB   I     signed Apr 18 2018               released May 25 2018
Larry Webster          DE   I    signed May 1 2018                 released May 25 2018
Jhurell Pressley          RB   I   signed May 16 2018               released May 28 2018
Charles Nelson          WR   I   signed May 25 2018               retired May 31 2018
Steven Clarke           DB   I     signed Jan 24 2018               released June 4 2018
Zack Mahoney          QB   N   signed May 11 2018               released June 9 2018
Jahad Thomas           RB   I   signed May 26 2018                released June 9 2018
Myles White             WR   I   signed Nov 11 2017                released June 9 2018
A.J. Coney               WR   I   signed Mar 15 2018                released June 9 2018
Donteea Dye            WR   I    signed May 10 2018               released June 9 2018
Rueben Randle          WR   I    signed May 22 2018               released June 9 2018
B Thera-Plamondon   WR   N   signed Dec 11 2017                 released June 9 2018
Tyrone Pierre           WR   N    signed May 14 2018               released June 9 2018
Na'Ty Rodgers          OL   I     signed May 15 2018                released June 9 2018
Dillon DeBoer            OL   I    signed May 20 2018                released June 9 2018
M Ouellet De Carlo    OL   N    signed May 10 2018                released June 9 2018
Ben Koczwara          OL   N   signed May 10 2018                 released June 9 2018
Daniel Awoleke         DT   I   signed Dec 29 2017                  released June 9 2018
Faith Ekakitie           DT   N  signed May 1 2017                   released June 9 2018
Sam Montgomery      DL   I   signed Jan 18 2018                   released June 9 2018
Chris Casher            DL   I   signed Jan 18 2018                   released June 9 2018
Jevaris Jones            LB   I    signed Nov 11 2017                 released June 9 2018
Quentin Gause          LB   I     signed Apr 16  2018                released June 9 2018
Brian Walker             DB   I     signed May 22 2017                released June 9 2018
Mohammed Seisay     DB   I     signed May 16 2018                released June 9 2018
Chris Humes             DB   I     signed May 15 2018                released June 9 2018
Jordan Thomas         DB   I     signed May 20 2018                released June 9 2018
Kahlen Branning        DB   N     signed  Nov 2 2017                 released June 9 2018
Abu Conteh             DB   N     signed Dec 11 2017                 released June 9 2018
Jacob Firlotte          DB   N      signed May 10 2018                released June 9 2018
Brendan Naujoks      WR   N      Winnipeg Rifle                        released June 9 2018
Hayden Nellis           DL   N      Winnipeg Rifle                        released June 9 2018
Andrew Richard        DB   N      Winnipeg Rifle                        released June 9 2018
Felix Mernard-Briere    K   N      signed May 14 2018                released June 10 2018
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I      re-signed                                signed to PR June 9 2018  - added to active roster June 13 2018
Mitchell Gale            QB   I     signed June 18 2018                 signed to PR June 18 2018  - added to active roster June 21 2018
Tyneil Cooper           DB   I      signed Apr 19 2018                 signed to PR June 9 2018    - added to active roster June 28 2018
John Rush                FB   N   (re-) signed Dec 13 2016           signed to PR June 9 2018    - added to active roster June 28 2018
Marcus Sayles          DB   I     signed May 8 2018                   signed to PR June 9 2018   - added to active roster June 28 2018
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I     signed June 13 2018                signed to PR June 21 2018   - added to active roster June 28 2018
Tylor Henry             WR   N    signed Jan 24 2018                  signed to PR June 9 2018     - added to active roster July 13 2018
Johnny Augustine      RB  N     signed May 16 2018                  signed to PR June 18 2018  - added to active roster July 13 2018
Jeff Hecht                DB   N   signed July 11 2018                    signed to PR July 11 2018    - added to active roster July 13 2018
Abu Conteh              DB   N    signed July 17 2018                   signed to PR July 17 2018     - added to active roster July 20 2018
Adarius Bowman        WR   I    signed Feb 9 2018    (140 000)    traded to Montreal July 23 2018
Mitchell Gale             QB   I    signed June 21 2018                   signed to PR July 3 2018    - released from PR July 26 2018
Kenbrell Thompkins    WR   I    signed May 22 2018                    signed to PR June 28 2018  - added to active roster July 26 2018
Brisly Estime            WR   I    signed July 24 2018                    signed to PR July 24 2018      - released from PR Aug 9 2018


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 01:32:16 AM
Roster as of Nov 13 2017:
                                                                                Contract length                               Salary
Matt Nichols             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017       2017   2018   2019                            400 000
Dominique Davis        QB   I   re-signed Jan 4 2017         2017   2018
Dan LeFevour           QB   I   signed Feb 16 2017           2017

Andrew Harris           RB  N    signed Feb 9 2016            2017   2018
Timothy Flanders      RB   I    signed May 25 2016          2017
Chris Normand          FB   N   signed May 21 2015          2017
Mike Miller               FB   N    signed Mar 3 2017            2017

Darvin Adams           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017       2017   2018   2019
Weston Dressler       WR   I   signed Jan 26 2016           2017                                                170 000
Clarence Denmark     WR   I   re-signed Feb 17 2017       2017
L'Damian Washington WR   I   signed Oct 13 2017           2017
Chris Givens             WR   I   signed Oct 19 2017           2017   
Ryan Lankford          WR   I   signed Nov 10 2017            2017
Myles White             WR  I    signed Nov 11 2017          2017
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N   extended Dec 23 2014      2017
Matt Coates            WR   N   signed Feb 14 2017          2017
Drew Wolitarsky       WR   N   signed Oct 5 2017            2017

Stanley Bryant         OL   I   re-signed Jan 3 2017          2017                                                  160 000*
Travis Bond             OL   I   signed Mar 8 2016              2017   
Jermarcus Hardrick    OL   I   signed Feb 17 2016            2017
Manase Foketi          OL   I   signed Mar 3 2016             2017
Matthias Goossen      C   N   extended Dec 16 2015        2017   2018
Sukh  Chugh            OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017        2017   2018
Patrick Neufeld         OL  N   extended Dec 3 2014          2017
Michael Couture       OL   N   signed May 23 2016           2017   2018                                         75 000

Justin Medlock           K   I   re-signed Jan 3 2017           2017                                                 185 000*
Chad  Rempel           LS   N  re-signed Dec 19 2016         2017   2018

Drake  Nevis            DT   I   signed Feb 14 2017             2017                                                 125 000
Cory Johnson           DT   I   singed May 24 2017            2017   2018
Jake  Thomas           DT  N   extended Nov 30 2015        2017
Faith Ekakitie           DT   N  signed May 1 2017              2017   2018   2019                                88 000
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N   signed May 7 2015             2017                                                 170 000
Tristan Okpalaugo     DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017              2017   2018
Jackson Jeffcoat      DE   I    signed Feb 21 2017             2017   2018
Trent Corney           DE  N    signed May 24 2016            2017

Ian Wild                  LB   I    signed Sept 21 2015           2017
Kyle Knox                LB   I    signed Dec 10 2015            2017
Jovan Santos-Knox   LB   I    signed July12 2017             2017
Sam Hurl                 LB   N    re-signed Feb 16 2017       2017
Jesse Briggs             LB   N    re-signed Feb 13 2017       2017
Shayne Gauthier       LB   N    signed May 23 2016           2017
John Rush               LB   N    (re-) signed Dec 13 2016    2017
Jevaris Jones            LB   I    signed Nov 11 2017           2017       
Thomas Miles           LB   N    signed Mar 4 2017             2017
Maurice Leggett       DB   I    extended Dec 7 2014          2017

TJ Heath                 DB   I    acquired Sept 10 2016        2017
Chris Randle             DB   I    extended Feb 26 2016        2017
Kevin Fogg              DB   I     signed Dec 15 2015            2017
Brandon Alexander    DB   I     signed April 17 2017           2017    2018
Brian Walker            DB   I     signed May 22 2017            2017    2018
Taylor Loffler           DB   N    signed  May 23 2016           2017    2018
Derek Jones            DB   N     extended Dec 16 2014        2017
Kahlen Branning       DB   N     signed  Nov 2 2017             2017

Note: contracts signed by players on their 2nd contract or greater are recorded as 1 year (unless other info is provided)

Practice roster:
Shayon Green          DE   I    signed July 17  2017        -   added July 17 2017
Qadr Spooner          OL   N   signed Aug 3 2017            - added Aug 11 2017
Darnell Walker Jr      DB   I     signed Sept 7 2017          - added Sept 7 2017
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I    signed Sept 8 2017           - added Sept 21 2017
Ian Marouf             DT  N    signed Oct 4 2017            - added Oct 4 2017 
Zach Bauman          RB   I   signed Oct 17 2017           - added Oct 17 2017
Robert Porter           DB   I   signed Oct 19 2017           - added Nov 2 2017
Frank Renaud           LB   N    signed Nov 2  2017          - added Nov 10 2017
 
Suspended:
Stephen Burton         WR   I  signed April 26 2017         
Roc Carmichael          DB  I   signed April 26 2017      -suspended from active roster Sept 7 2017


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 01:33:26 AM
Nov 13th transactions

The following players were removed from the practice roster:
Zach Bauman
Robert Porter
Kyrie Wilson
Shayon Green
Ian Marouf
Frank Renaud
Qadr Spooner
Darnell Walker


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 14, 2017, 01:35:19 AM
Maybe we can bring Carmichael back?


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 01:47:34 AM
So Spooner is now a free agent?  That's not good. Hoping Walters has him locked up with a contract.

Yeah, not sure why they didn't put him on the one game injured list like they did with Jervaris Jones and Myles White .


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 14, 2017, 03:13:21 AM
Roster as of Nov 13 2017:
                                                                                Contract length                               Salary
Matt Nichols             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017       2017   2018   2019                            400 000
Dominique Davis        QB   I   re-signed Jan 4 2017         2017   2018
Dan LeFevour           QB   I   signed Feb 16 2017           2017

Andrew Harris           RB  N    signed Feb 9 2016            2017   2018
Timothy Flanders      RB   I    signed May 25 2016          2017
Chris Normand          FB   N   signed May 21 2015          2017
Mike Miller               FB   N    signed Mar 3 2017            2017


Darvin Adams           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017       2017   2018   2019
Weston Dressler       WR   I   signed Jan 26 2016           2017                                                170 000
Clarence Denmark     WR   I   re-signed Feb 17 2017       2017
L'Damian Washington WR   I   signed Oct 13 2017           2017
Chris Givens             WR   I   signed Oct 19 2017           2017   ????
Ryan Lankford          WR   I   signed Nov 10 2017            2017  ????
Myles White             WR  I    signed Nov 11 2017          2017
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N   extended Dec 23 2014      2017
Matt Coates            WR   N   signed Feb 14 2017          2017
Drew Wolitarsky       WR   N   signed Oct 5 2017            2017  ????   ????

Stanley Bryant         OL   I   re-signed Jan 3 2017          2017                                                  160 000*
Travis Bond             OL   I   signed Mar 8 2016              2017   
Jermarcus Hardrick    OL   I   signed Feb 17 2016            2017

Manase Foketi          OL   I   signed Mar 3 2016             2017
Matthias Goossen      C   N   extended Dec 16 2015        2017   2018
Sukh  Chugh            OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017        2017   2018
Patrick Neufeld         OL  N   extended Dec 3 2014          2017
Michael Couture       OL   N   signed May 23 2016           2017   2018                                         75 000

Justin Medlock           K   I   re-signed Jan 3 2017           2017                                                 185 000*
Chad  Rempel           LS   N  re-signed Dec 19 2016         2017   2018

Drake  Nevis            DT   I   signed Feb 14 2017             2017                                                 125 000
Cory Johnson           DT   I   singed May 24 2017            2017   2018
Jake  Thomas           DT  N   extended Nov 30 2015        2017
Faith Ekakitie           DT   N  signed May 1 2017              2017   2018   2019                                88 000
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N   signed May 7 2015             2017                                                 170 000
Tristan Okpalaugo     DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017              2017   2018
Jackson Jeffcoat      DE   I    signed Feb 21 2017             2017   2018
Trent Corney           DE  N    signed May 24 2016            2017  ????

Ian Wild                  LB   I    signed Sept 21 2015           2017
Kyle Knox                LB   I    signed Dec 10 2015            2017
Jovan Santos-Knox   LB   I    signed July12 2017             2017  ????
Sam Hurl                 LB   N    re-signed Feb 16 2017       2017
Jesse Briggs             LB   N    re-signed Feb 13 2017       2017
Shayne Gauthier       LB   N    signed May 23 2016           2017
John Rush               LB   N    (re-) signed Dec 13 2016    2017

Jevaris Jones            LB   I    signed Nov 11 2017           2017       
Thomas Miles           LB   N    signed Mar 4 2017             2017
Maurice Leggett       DB   I    extended Dec 7 2014          2017


TJ Heath                 DB   I    acquired Sept 10 2016        2017
Chris Randle             DB   I    extended Feb 26 2016        2017
Kevin Fogg              DB   I     signed Dec 15 2015            2017

Brandon Alexander    DB   I     signed April 17 2017           2017    2018
Brian Walker            DB   I     signed May 22 2017            2017    2018
Taylor Loffler           DB   N    signed  May 23 2016           2017    2018
Derek Jones            DB   N     extended Dec 16 2014        2017
Kahlen Branning       DB   N     signed  Nov 2 2017             2017

Note: contracts signed by players on their 2nd contract or greater are recorded as 1 year (unless other info is provided)

Practice roster:
Shayon Green          DE   I    signed July 17  2017        -   added July 17 2017
Qadr Spooner          OL   N   signed Aug 3 2017            - added Aug 11 2017
Darnell Walker Jr      DB   I     signed Sept 7 2017          - added Sept 7 2017
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I    signed Sept 8 2017           - added Sept 21 2017
Ian Marouf             DT  N    signed Oct 4 2017            - added Oct 4 2017 
Zach Bauman          RB   I   signed Oct 17 2017           - added Oct 17 2017
Robert Porter           DB   I   signed Oct 19 2017           - added Nov 2 2017
Frank Renaud           LB   N    signed Nov 2  2017          - added Nov 10 2017
 
Suspended:
Stephen Burton         WR   I  signed April 26 2017         
Roc Carmichael          DB  I   signed April 26 2017      -suspended from active roster Sept 7 2017

Bolded would be my priority signing (if they aren't already under contract. 


????  should be under contract for 2018, either entry level deals (min 2 years), or Draft deals (usually 3 years when Walters signs them)

Was Medlock $185k this year?  Wasn't that what he originally signed for, but renegotiated with more favourable tax implications for less?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tiger on November 14, 2017, 03:18:36 AM
Washington and Givens should be back but we should be looking for others.   You can always upgrade. 



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on November 14, 2017, 03:28:24 AM
Washington and Givens should be back but we should be looking for others.   You can always upgrade. 


Bring all rookies back for next TC. Bring in some fresh faces too and let the best men stay 


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 04:17:43 AM

Bolded would be my priority signing (if they aren't already under contract. 


????  should be under contract for 2018, either entry level deals (min 2 years), or Draft deals (usually 3 years when Walters signs them)

Was Medlock $185k this year?  Wasn't that what he originally signed for, but renegotiated with more favourable tax implications for less?


Draft players aren't always 3 years but I double checked on Corney and Global reported he did sign a 3 year deal.
https://globalnews.ca/news/2719550/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-trent-corney/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/2719550/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-trent-corney/)

For a number of the guys its hard to determine if they are signed for next year or not. Players that sign then go to the practice roster then back on the active later are no longer on their first contracts.

$185 was Medlock's salary in 2016 before it was re-worked. There was no reports on what he made this year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: fuzzy on November 14, 2017, 04:58:52 AM
Are you saying they have almost 40 free agents???
That is crazy?  Is it the same all over the league? So much for getting a name printed on the back of a new jersey.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 14, 2017, 05:44:44 AM
Are you saying they have almost 40 free agents???
That is crazy?  Is it the same all over the league? So much for getting a name printed on the back of a new jersey.

Yes it is, short term contracts have made building a team and holding them together in the CFL a crazy exercise.  I hope the P.A. is happy with the huge displacement and instability they've created for their members.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bunker on November 14, 2017, 05:52:09 AM
Yes it is, short term contracts have made building a team and holding them together in the CFL a crazy exercise.  I hope the P.A. is happy with the huge displacement and instability they've created for their members.
Short contracts are still in the player?s interest. If there on a longer contract, and they have an off year, or are perceived as overpaid, a contract that?s not guaranteed is of no benefit to them. They can still be let go or forced to renegotiate. With the shorter contract, if they over perform, they?re not locked into an underpaid contract, and can get what the market will pay. As a fan you want continuity, and I?m not happy. But it makes sence from  the player?s perspective.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Ridermania on November 14, 2017, 12:09:51 PM
Nov 13th transactions

The following players were removed from the practice roster:
Zach Bauman
Robert Porter
Kyrie Wilson
Shayon Green
Ian Marouf
Frank Renaud
Qadr Spooner
Darnell Walker

Really surprised that Spooner was released, hope the Riders sign him for next season!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 14, 2017, 12:17:05 PM
Nov 13th transactions

The following players were removed from the practice roster:
Zach Bauman
Robert Porter
Kyrie Wilson
Shayon Green
Ian Marouf
Frank Renaud
Qadr Spooner
Darnell Walker

Really surprised that Spooner was released, hope the Riders sign him for next season!
I'm sure he's got a deal in place with the Bombers...either verbal, or in Walters desk drawer. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: sweep the leg on November 14, 2017, 01:33:35 PM
Are you saying they have almost 40 free agents???


Bauming said they'll have 20 free agents this year.

Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming
20h20 hours ago

There are 20 names on my list of #Bombers' pending free agents. Who leads the pack as far as must-signs for GM Kyle Walters? I explore tonight from 6-7pm on CFL:60. @TSN1290Radio



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 14, 2017, 01:37:49 PM
Yes it is, short term contracts have made building a team and holding them together in the CFL a crazy exercise.  I hope the P.A. is happy with the huge displacement and instability they've created for their members.

Two things...

First, player retention is MUCH more important now, hence the emphasis on building a team with a family feel to it.  Which is why the Walters / MOS building method is so important.

Second, the PA is absolutely stoked about the "displacement and instability" this is creating, because if a player moves, its for mo money...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: fuzzy on November 14, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
Well if there is 20 or 30 FAs in Bomberland then there has to been a hundred elsewhere and if Walters is good at one thing, its signing FAs.  With the home playoff game revenue, he should have the bucks to fills some holes.  Might actually be a good thing . But Im definitely not getting any name or number put on my jersey for awhile.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 14, 2017, 06:34:31 PM
Well if there is 20 or 30 FAs in Bomberland then there has to been a hundred elsewhere and if Walters is good at one thing, its signing FAs.  With the home playoff game revenue, he should have the bucks to fills some holes.  Might actually be a good thing . But Im definitely not getting any name or number put on my jersey for awhile.
CFL has a salary cap, so each team has the same budget to work with. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 10:39:28 PM
Jeff Hamilton‏ @jeffkhamilton59 minutes ago
Weston Dressler was the undisputed leader of the #Bombers offence, behind maybe Matt Nichols. He played the last month of the season with a broken hand. Expect him to be back next season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on November 14, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
Hamilton has about 40 FA's.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 14, 2017, 10:41:58 PM
Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming  2 hours ago
A non-comprehensive look at the #Bombers' pending free agents, presented in no particular order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOoAWNWX0AAyByv.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 14, 2017, 10:51:06 PM
Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming  2 hours ago
A non-comprehensive look at the #Bombers' pending free agents, presented in no particular order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOoAWNWX0AAyByv.jpg:large)
What does he mean by ?non-comprehensive??


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on November 14, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
Are you saying they have almost 40 free agents???
That is crazy?  Is it the same all over the league? So much for getting a name printed on the back of a new jersey.

This is funny because this year in Hamilton I wore a New Jersey to the game with a blank name thing on the back....and near the end of the game a row of older gentlemen actually yelled at me to pick a name lol.....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue girl on November 14, 2017, 11:27:28 PM
Hamilton has about 40 FA's.
How do you have 40 FA's. That's almost the whole team. :D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on November 14, 2017, 11:38:59 PM
Thats a-lot of o-line!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: The Zipp on November 15, 2017, 01:21:12 AM
Retaining as much of the o-line is a priority. We all remember what a sub-par o-line looks like, no way this team moves forward if it takes a big step backwards in talent at those positions.  You can sink an entire season.

It starts and ends there...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 15, 2017, 02:11:14 AM
What does he mean by ?non-comprehensive??
It means there are some free agents that he may have missed. The actual free agent list will range from the 23 he has listed and the 37 potential names I identified.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: The Zipp on November 15, 2017, 02:18:59 AM
It means there are some free agents that he may have missed. The actual free agent list will range from the 23 he has listed and the 37 potential names I identified.

Until the teams release the lists all we will see are speculative ones.  They will be mostly accurate but not guaranteed to have everyone. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 15, 2017, 11:23:01 AM
It means there are some free agents that he may have missed. The actual free agent list will range from the 23 he has listed and the 37 potential names I identified.
Thanks. That?s what I thought.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on November 15, 2017, 01:26:27 PM
Pretty sure Spooner has a new deal already or one for 2018-2019 just waiting for the new year. Most likely why he wasn't 1-gamed and this release is just paper work shuffling.

The team is too high on him to allow him to walk and his loyalty staying when he could have been poached...and I hear it was twice goes a long way in the team "taking care" of you


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 15, 2017, 04:40:50 PM
Pretty sure Spooner has a new deal already or one for 2018-2019 just waiting for the new year. Most likely why he wasn't 1-gamed and this release is just paper work shuffling.

The team is too high on him to allow him to walk and his loyalty staying when he could have been poached...and I hear it was twice goes a long way in the team "taking care" of you

He probably has a good shot at playing time next season if Bond takes off.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on November 15, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
If Bond is not back ideally or best bet and most likely is to have Neufeld start there with Couture and Spooner backing him up if we choose to go 2 extra olineman again, but then again they may put either Hardrcick/Foketti there if they think it makes us stronger one at tackle..one at guard and that may be the route too with Foketti being cheaper than Neufeld and go with the young kids as back-ups and let him walk too.

I would love for us tho to be able to go 3 Nationals on the O-line as it opens up wayyyy more roster options. Now if Gray is back for camp if released in offseason and not wanting to waste a year or two trying to find a new practice roster spot somewhere and be in limbo until spring or later...I can't see him being that kind of guy and if nothing concrete develops for him by spring I bet he signs a 2-3 year deal here in his hometown to get his career moving.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on November 15, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
Everyone on the O except Denmark. Would be nice, but the OL in particular.

Randle, Leggett, Heath, Jones, Wild, Westerman, (unless we sign finally sign AM).

Medlock at the right price.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on November 15, 2017, 06:40:21 PM
I also can't see Quad as an FA. We just drafted him. He should have either a 2 or 3 year contract?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 15, 2017, 10:22:43 PM
I also can't see Quad as an FA. We just drafted him. He should have either a 2 or 3 year contract?

He was PR?d. So he was automatically released at the end of the season - or will be. Not exactly sure how the timeline works out. I?m pretty confident they?ll get his name on a new contract though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 16, 2017, 09:59:44 PM
November 16, 2017 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national offensive lineman Patrick Neufeld and International offensive lineman Jermarcus Hardrick.

Neufeld has signed a two-year extension after spending the past four seasons in Winnipeg. The seven-year CFL vet was originally acquired in a trade with Saskatchewan in 2013, and has played in 82 career CFL games. Neufeld started the final two regular season games at left guard, as well as the Western Semi-Final.

Hardrick has signed a one-year extension after being named a West-Division All-Star in 2017. He started all 18 games this season at right tackle, and 16 the year before, after signing as a free agent heading into the 2016 season.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/16/bombers-re-sign-offensive-linemen-patrick-neufeld-jermarcus-hardrick/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/16/bombers-re-sign-offensive-linemen-patrick-neufeld-jermarcus-hardrick/)

NEUFELD & HARDRICK BACK ON BOARD
https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/16/269081/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/16/269081/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: PloenFan on November 18, 2017, 01:01:20 PM
We need some help at DB - Alexander and Walker may eventually become All-stars, but until then perhaps we need to sign a veteran or two to hold the fort.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 18, 2017, 02:00:01 PM
We need some help at DB - Alexander and Walker may eventually become All-stars, but until then perhaps we need to sign a veteran or two to hold the fort.
Some people suggested we sign Jovon Johnson last offseason and I thought it was an unnecessary move. Turns out he probably could have helped.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 22, 2017, 03:20:07 AM
November 20, 2017 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed national safety Derek Jones to a two-year deal.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/20/bombers-re-sign-national-safety-derek-jones/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/20/bombers-re-sign-national-safety-derek-jones/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: thunderNlightning on November 22, 2017, 04:03:34 AM
I also can't see Quad as an FA. We just drafted him. He should have either a 2 or 3 year contract?

Duane Forde mentioned him as the one player with the highest ceiling and raw talent in the draft this spring.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on November 22, 2017, 06:28:02 AM
Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming  2 hours ago
A non-comprehensive look at the #Bombers' pending free agents, presented in no particular order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOoAWNWX0AAyByv.jpg:large)

I want them all back except denmark, lefevour, hurl, and Knox. That will be some good talent we will have to let go but hopefully we can upgrade each spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 22, 2017, 08:23:13 AM
I want them all back except denmark, lefevour, hurl, and Knox. That will be some good talent we will have to let go but hopefully we can upgrade each spot.
Lefevour is a must sign. Best short yardage QB in the league.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on November 22, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Lefevour is a must sign. Best short yardage QB in the league.

Agree. I actually think he will be signed as #2 and Davis will be gone.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 22, 2017, 12:26:39 PM
Agree. I actually think he will be signed as #2 and Davis will be gone.
I want Lefevour back, but I hope we can improve on our backup QB situation. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
Lefevour is a must sign. Best short yardage QB in the league.

Meh. I hardly think that qualifies him as a ?must sign?. Teams shouldn?t have that much money tied to a third string QB.


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Horseman on November 22, 2017, 01:05:16 PM
Maybe we can bring Carmichael back?

Yeah...said no one ever!


Title: Re: Blue Bomber roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
Maybe we can bring Carmichael back?

He's not a free agaent, he's suspended on his entry deal, he's a Bomber for 2018 unless he gets released...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
I want Lefevour back, but I hope we can improve on our backup QB situation. 

This is where I stand. LeFevour as the 3QB/jumbo package plays is good. It may be time to move on from Davis and go a different route, though.

Meh. I hardly think that qualifies him as a ?must sign?. Teams shouldn?t have that much money tied to a third string QB.

How much LeFevour making in 2017?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 22, 2017, 02:25:43 PM
I don't like the idea of bringing back LeFeavour just so he can run short yardage. Yes - he does do that well but he can't throw the ball worth a darn which even as a backup should probably be a primary consideration. In short yardage, we really only need one yard-ish. He often gets more than that, which is gravy, but that's not worth him taking a roster spot from a QB who could potentially help us at the actual QB position in case of injury or the spot of a guy that can actually play if we finally discover someone like that.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
I don't like the idea of bringing back LeFeavour just so he can run short yardage. Yes - he does do that well but he can't throw the ball worth a darn which even as a backup should probably be a primary consideration. In short yardage, we really only need one yard-ish. He often gets more than that, which is gravy, but that's not worth him taking a roster spot from a QB who could potentially help us at the actual QB position in case of injury or the spot of a guy that can actually play if we finally discover someone like that.

I'm ecstatic at having LeFevour here at #3 on the DC, and at a commensurate wage.  Yes, having a specific short yardage QB taking up space on the DC sounds silly, but I think it is quite astute.  Especially when that guy does have some CFL experience and can come in in a pinch. 

We need a #2 QB on the roster, whether that is Davis or someone who came through the PR last year, we need someone with upside that doesn't have a high cost associated with him.  No Glenn, Lulay, Franklin... we need to develop a guy.  Whether Davis is ready to be that guy, or someone else, we need someone that other teams will covet as their #1 in 2 years, like Franklin...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 22, 2017, 04:23:20 PM
I'm ecstatic at having LeFevour here at #3 on the DC, and at a commensurate wage. Yes, having a specific short yardage QB taking up space on the DC sounds silly, but I think it is quite astute.  Especially when that guy does have some CFL experience and can come in in a pinch.

We need a #2 QB on the roster, whether that is Davis or someone who came through the PR last year, we need someone with upside that doesn't have a high cost associated with him.  No Glenn, Lulay, Franklin... we need to develop a guy.  Whether Davis is ready to be that guy, or someone else, we need someone that other teams will covet as their #1 in 2 years, like Franklin...

Why is it astute? Are the extra yards he picks up in those situations worth both the extra SMS cost he would command and the roster spot we've committed to the guy? I would say no. Most quarterbacks can pick up a yard or two, he's not special in that regard. If you want to develop a quarterback you have to find one worth developing. To find one, you need roster spots for QBs available.

If Dom isn't the guy to be the backup, you need a Kevin Glenn type or someone who can actually go in and play if Nichols gets hurt. That means your new QB can't be two. If we're serious about developing a quarterback, we'd sign a veteran QB like KG to go in for Nichols, get rid of LeFeavour and put a new quarterback in the 3 spot and possibly one on the PR. If you don't, you're left with LeFeavour starting when your 'number 2' inevitably isn't ready yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 05:32:57 PM
How much LeFevour making in 2017?

More than a developmental QB on his first contract.

I would love a vet QB to come in for short yardage, but it needs to be a guy who can perform in other scenarios as well. LeFevour has proved he can't really do that. The vet also has to be the primary back-up, with a cheaper contract thrown at a younger guy.

Otherwise we have too much tied into one positional spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 22, 2017, 08:07:24 PM
I really question bringing in a developmental QB in the short term contract environment that is currently the model. I would predict Nichols plays for the Bombers for at least another 4-5 years, how do you keep a developmental guy progressing and content without a real shot at starting over a 2-3 period?  Even if Davis had the potential of Franklin, he doesn't stand a chance of stepping up to #1 with the Bombers in the near future and would most likely move on at some point.

I think it may be time to readjust the thinking and find contentment with holding on to a vet. QB like LeFevour, Glenn or Crompton who accepts their role as second string yet are accomplished enough vets. to step in and perform when needed.  Let other teams develop QB's and pick them up when needed.  Until Nichols is to the point that he is ineffective enough to lose his job and a progression has to be made I honestly don't see the point of having a young developmental QB on the roster other than being a spare arm for practice.  The counter point is that a serious injury can end a career at anytime but in that scenario the team is probably screwed anyways and the developmental guy is usually not at the point that he can carry the load.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2017, 08:08:24 PM
More than a developmental QB on his first contract.

I would love a vet QB to come in for short yardage, but it needs to be a guy who can perform in other scenarios as well. LeFevour has proved he can't really do that. The vet also has to be the primary back-up, with a cheaper contract thrown at a younger guy.

Otherwise we have too much tied into one positional spot.

Well, that's a given. But I still have to wonder if LeFevour is making significantly that much more than any other #3/jumbo package QB around the league.

I also wonder how much the Bombers do have tied up in the QB position relative to other teams.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 22, 2017, 08:09:22 PM
I really question bringing in a developmental QB in the short term contract environment that is currently the model. I would predict Nichols plays for the Bombers for at least another 4-5 years, how do you keep a developmental guy progressing and content without a real shot at starting over a 2-3 period?  Even if Davis had the potential of Franklin, he doesn't stand a chance of stepping up to #1 with the Bombers in the near future.

I think it may be time to readjust the thinking and find contentment with holding on to a vet. QB like LeFevour, Glenn or Crompton who accepts their role as second string yet are accomplished enough vets. to step in and perform when needed.  Let other teams develop QB's and pick them up when needed.  Until Nichols is to the point that he is ineffective enough to lose his job and a progression has to be made I honestly don't see the point of having a young developmental QB on the roster other than being a spare arm for practice.  The counter point is that a serious injury can end a career at anytime but in that scenario the team is usually screwed anyways and the developmental guy is usually not at the point that he can carry the load.
The other benefit to developing QBs is that if one catches fire, maybe you can flip him in a trade for some valuable draft picks other assets.  


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bunker on November 22, 2017, 08:13:19 PM
I really question bringing in a developmental QB in the short term contract environment that is currently the model. I would predict Nichols plays for the Bombers for at least another 4-5 years, how do you keep a developmental guy progressing and content without a real shot at starting over a 2-3 period?  Even if Davis had the potential of Franklin, he doesn't stand a chance of stepping up to #1 with the Bombers in the near future and would most likely move on at some point.

I think it may be time to readjust the thinking and find contentment with holding on to a vet. QB like LeFevour, Glenn or Crompton who accepts their role as second string yet are accomplished enough vets. to step in and perform when needed.  Let other teams develop QB's and pick them up when needed.  Until Nichols is to the point that he is ineffective enough to lose his job and a progression has to be made I honestly don't see the point of having a young developmental QB on the roster other than being a spare arm for practice.  The counter point is that a serious injury can end a career at anytime but in that scenario the team is usually screwed anyways and the developmental guy is usually not at the point that he can carry the load.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm 58, and I don't think I'm going to live long enough to see the Bombers develop a starting QB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 22, 2017, 08:27:05 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm 58, and I don't think I'm going to live long enough to see the Bombers develop a starting QB.

The environment has changed, both Ottawa and BC attempted the QB transition recently with mixed results but I think BC would be crazy to give up on Jennings without first improving their O-line.  Rarely does a QB transition go smoothly.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 22, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
I also don't see the need to develop a QB to be your next starter. The reality is that most of the starting CFL QBs were groomed by a different team. The Bo Levis of this league that come in and start and remain the starter for the team that brought them to Canada is rare.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 09:47:55 PM
I really question bringing in a developmental QB in the short term contract environment that is currently the model. I would predict Nichols plays for the Bombers for at least another 4-5 years, how do you keep a developmental guy progressing and content without a real shot at starting over a 2-3 period?  Even if Davis had the potential of Franklin, he doesn't stand a chance of stepping up to #1 with the Bombers in the near future and would most likely move on at some point.

I think it may be time to readjust the thinking and find contentment with holding on to a vet. QB like LeFevour, Glenn or Crompton who accepts their role as second string yet are accomplished enough vets. to step in and perform when needed.  Let other teams develop QB's and pick them up when needed.  Until Nichols is to the point that he is ineffective enough to lose his job and a progression has to be made I honestly don't see the point of having a young developmental QB on the roster other than being a spare arm for practice.  The counter point is that a serious injury can end a career at anytime but in that scenario the team is probably screwed anyways and the developmental guy is usually not at the point that he can carry the load.

I understand what you?re saying but I disagree for a few reasons.

1. Money. If we?re signing three vets, we?re spending too much.

2. Like gbill pointed out, you don?t just develop QBs for yourself, they?re a renewable resource. Wally has been doing it for years. Find a guy, if he performs well in a few games, you get a first round pick out of it.

3. We shouldn?t be satisfied with what we have. Nichols is better than what we?ve had for years, but why not try to upgrade? If our scouts see a prospect that they love, we need to bring him in.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on November 22, 2017, 11:29:05 PM
I've often wondered about this developing players thing. How much of this actually goes on in the league? Given the limited amount of time they practice through the week, it seems that only true time would be in training camp. However, that seems more like an evaluation opportunity more so than coaching up a player. Other than that, is it just throw reps in practice with the team or is there a 'process' that a team does? With the NFL they have the money and the time to have the #2 be a scout squad for the #1 defense, so they get a lot more 'real' reps, so to speak... just curious...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on November 23, 2017, 12:54:40 PM
I've often wondered about this developing players thing. How much of this actually goes on in the league? Given the limited amount of time they practice through the week, it seems that only true time would be in training camp. However, that seems more like an evaluation opportunity more so than coaching up a player. Other than that, is it just throw reps in practice with the team or is there a 'process' that a team does? With the NFL they have the money and the time to have the #2 be a scout squad for the #1 defense, so they get a lot more 'real' reps, so to speak... just curious...

For INT players there is not much development time. It's about being a good player and being patient on the PR for 500 bucks a week. However, NAT players are given a lot development time and energy because they are tough to find. Diamonds in the rough may spend a couple years on the PR.
QBs are definitely developed. Rarely are they CFL ready, it is a completely different game than they are used too. However, by the time a QB is ready a lot of times they are off to another team that can offer them a chance to start. It's the nature of the business. This is a QB driven league so even though chances are you may be developing a QB for someone else, you still have to hope you find the next Ricky Ray that finds his game fast and pushes your current starter to the bench.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 23, 2017, 03:04:43 PM
Why is it astute? Are the extra yards he picks up in those situations worth both the extra SMS cost he would command and the roster spot we've committed to the guy? I would say no. Most quarterbacks can pick up a yard or two, he's not special in that regard. If you want to develop a quarterback you have to find one worth developing. To find one, you need roster spots for QBs available.

If Dom isn't the guy to be the backup, you need a Kevin Glenn type or someone who can actually go in and play if Nichols gets hurt. That means your new QB can't be two. If we're serious about developing a quarterback, we'd sign a veteran QB like KG to go in for Nichols, get rid of LeFeavour and put a new quarterback in the 3 spot and possibly one on the PR. If you don't, you're left with LeFeavour starting when your 'number 2' inevitably isn't ready yet.

Personally, I'd prefer LeFevour over Glenn any day of the week as a backup.  He actually brings the short yardage game to the table, and is just as likely to come off the bench and win you a game as Glenn...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on November 23, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
Personally, I'd prefer LeFevour over Glenn any day of the week as a backup.  He actually brings the short yardage game to the table, and is just as likely to come off the bench and win you a game as Glenn...

LOL...you're joking right?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 23, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
Personally, I'd prefer LeFevour over Glenn any day of the week as a backup.  He actually brings the short yardage game to the table, and is just as likely to come off the bench and win you a game as Glenn...
Uhm...no  ::)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Horseman on November 23, 2017, 04:01:48 PM
Personally, I'd prefer LeFevour over Glenn any day of the week as a backup.  He actually brings the short yardage game to the table, and is just as likely to come off the bench and win you a game as Glenn...

For a back up QB, Glenn is head and shoulders better, if he is released by Sask, I would hope the Big Blue would approach him about coming back. I think at this point Glenn will have accepted the fact he will not start anywhere and if he wants to keep on playing, his role will be as a back up.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on November 23, 2017, 04:16:05 PM
If the bombers acquire Glenn it will be 28 without a cup.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 23, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
Uhm...no  ::)



For a back up QB, Glenn is head and shoulders better, if he is released by Sask, I would hope the Big Blue would approach him about coming back. I think at this point Glenn will have accepted the fact he will not start anywhere and if he wants to keep on playing, his role will be as a back up.

Why?  Glenn gonna Glenn.  He might win you the ESF, but then toss up 3 picks in the first half and kill your dreams.  Ask SSK if Glenn is the answer. 

At least with LeFevour you can plan around his play.  And he brings a day in / day out skill to the team with excellent short yardage skills... 

If the bombers acquire Glenn it will be 28 without a cup.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 23, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Why?  Glenn gonna Glenn.  He might win you the ESF, but then toss up 3 picks in the first half and kill your dreams.  Ask SSK if Glenn is the answer. 

But Lefevour wouldn't even get you to the play offs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: thunderNlightning on November 23, 2017, 10:23:52 PM
Why?  Glenn gonna Glenn.  He might win you the ESF, but then toss up 3 picks in the first half and kill your dreams.  Ask SSK if Glenn is the answer. 

At least with LeFevour you can plan around his play.  And he brings a day in / day out skill to the team with excellent short yardage skills... 

Ding a ling a ling...
Wow!!! This is crazy talk right there!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 23, 2017, 11:22:26 PM
So, Glenn had a good ESF, and then absolutely crapped the bed in the EF.  

How does that affect my "credibility"?  He is exactly as his stats say.   A .500ish QB that has never won a big game even though he's thrown for a million yards...  the exact last guy you want to pin your hopes and dreams on.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 23, 2017, 11:47:17 PM
So, Glenn had a good ESF, and then absolutely crapped the bed in the EF.  

How does that affect my "credibility"?  He is exactly as his stats say.   A .500ish QB that has never won a big game even though he's thrown for a million yards...  the exact last guy you want to pin your hopes and dreams on.
You say you prefer Lefevour over Glenn. What?s Lefevour win percentage and how many big games has he won?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on November 24, 2017, 12:40:31 AM
You say you prefer Lefevour over Glenn. What?s Lefevour win percentage and how many big games has he won?

Just for the record I don't say Lefevour over Glenn.....I just don't want Glenn.....the blue should go out and bring some really good QB talent to camp and see what happens.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 24, 2017, 12:44:21 AM
Just for the record I don't say Lefevour over Glenn.....I just don't want Glenn.....the blue should go out and bring some really good QB talent to camp and see what happens.
I didn?t say you did. I was replying to Aards.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on November 24, 2017, 12:51:16 AM
So, Glenn had a good ESF, and then absolutely crapped the bed in the EF.  

How does that affect my "credibility"?  He is exactly as his stats say.   A .500ish QB that has never won a big game even though he's thrown for a million yards...  the exact last guy you want to pin your hopes and dreams on.
Okay. And LeFevour almost killed our stud runningback because of a bad throw, has been mediocre at best in his career while getting replaced by Drew Willy last season. Is Glenn the most ideal backup QB? No. The most ideal backup would be a James Franklin or Brandon Bridge-esque guy. But to suggest LeFevour over Glenn just shows your unreasonable bias against Glenn.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on November 24, 2017, 01:49:32 AM
I do not want either one as a backup, but if it is solely a choice between those two guys, give me Kevin Glenn. Does he implode at unfortunate times? Sure. Does he put up huge games occasionally? Yup. I would have been thrilled to go to him this year instead of Davis or LeFevour. He is not scared or timid. He has won playoff games. He has engineered comebacks. He won an Eastern Final in 2007 and a Western Final in 2012. Give me that as a back up on a contending team. We do not need two developmental guys (not suggesting that is what LeFevour is, but if we had Glenn, we would not have LeFevour). We need a QB who can engineer a win, not one who can merely hand off to a running back and get out of the way. The development guy can run short yardage.

I am not saying that Glenn should be a guy we actively pursue, but if he is released in Saskatchewan, then I think he would be a good fit. And I would happily take him over LeFevour on our team right now.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: KINGCHARLES on November 24, 2017, 01:52:09 AM
Okay. And LeFevour almost killed our stud runningback because of a bad throw, has been mediocre at best in his career while getting replaced by Drew Willy last season. Is Glenn the most ideal backup QB? No. The most ideal backup would be a James Franklin or Brandon Bridge-esque guy. But to suggest LeFevour over Glenn just shows your unreasonable bias against Glenn.

Sucks that Franklin will probably end up in Montreal and Bridge should have done enough to take the #1 spot for the Riders next year.....I wonder what Rakeem Cato is up to?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on November 24, 2017, 02:23:26 AM
I didn?t say you did. I was replying to Aards.

It was a comment for anybody. Sorry, jus in case anybody was including me.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on November 24, 2017, 04:27:07 AM
Sucks that Franklin will probably end up in Montreal and Bridge should have done enough to take the #1 spot for the Riders next year.....I wonder what Rakeem Cato is up to?


I'm not sure you'd want Franklin to come to Winnipeg, unless you're open minded as to who #1 could be... I'd love to see him come but I don't think he would unless he was assured that he'd be a starter, but he's a baller....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on November 24, 2017, 04:44:00 AM
I'm not sure you'd want Franklin to come to Winnipeg, unless you're open minded as to who #1 could be... I'd love to see him come but I don't think he would unless he was assured that he'd be a starter, but he's a baller....

I am open minded to who #1 would be.....competition all around......at every position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on November 24, 2017, 05:19:09 AM
Sucks that Franklin will probably end up in Montreal and Bridge should have done enough to take the #1 spot for the Riders next year.....I wonder what Rakeem Cato is up to?

Who cares what he's up,to, he was on the worst team in pro football last year and they didn't pursue him, that pretty much says it all. I never saw what all the hype about this guy was about, and apparently Montreal figured it out too, as well did every other CFL team as nobody chased him down.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on November 24, 2017, 02:21:52 PM
Who cares what he's up,to, he was on the worst team in pro football last year and they didn't pursue him, that pretty much says it all. I never saw what all the hype about this guy was about, and apparently Montreal figured it out too, as well did every other CFL team as nobody chased him down.
I wouldn't take Montreal's take on QB's. Glenn and Bridge were both there last year. Regina did just fine with them. Montreal... not so much.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on November 24, 2017, 03:31:43 PM
Sucks that Franklin will probably end up in Montreal and Bridge should have done enough to take the #1 spot for the Riders next year.....I wonder what Rakeem Cato is up to?


I suspect that Franklin may land in Hamilton. The Eskimos and Tiger Cats have previously done a quiet futures deal for a running back only to see a roster player move in the offseason. This could be the same with CJ Gable. Could a deal to send Franklin's rights to Hamilton in the offseason be a part of that?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 24, 2017, 03:51:26 PM
I suspect that Franklin may land in Hamilton. The Eskimos and Tiger Cats have previously done a quiet futures deal for a running back only to see a roster player move in the offseason. This could be the same with CJ Gable. Could a deal to send Franklin's rights to Hamilton in the offseason be a part of that?

Franklin is a FA. I don't think his rights are worth anything right now.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on November 24, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
Reilly was a FA. Edmonton traded picks to BC for his rights prior to him being a FA. They negotiated a contract. Same could happen with Franklin.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 24, 2017, 05:44:40 PM
Reilly was a FA. Edmonton traded picks to BC for his rights prior to him being a FA. They negotiated a contract. Same could will happen with Franklin.

Fixed it for you. 

Franklin will be traded prior to FA.  Whether that is for picks or a Jade Etienne, you can bet someone will give Edm something for his rights.  That's if they haven't signed him and traded Reilly or some other foolishness.  I expect he might not sign with the eastern team he is traded to, and wait for Jones to throw bags of money at him as a FA. Guaranteed Reed will trade something for him...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 24, 2017, 05:52:18 PM
Reilly was a FA. Edmonton traded picks to BC for his rights prior to him being a FA. They negotiated a contract. Same could happen with Franklin.

I'm sure Mike had agreed to a new contract with Edmonton prior to being traded. Is Franklin going to do that?

If not, Edmonton may still trade him, but it wont be for anything more than a bag of footballs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 24, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
I suspect that Franklin may land in Hamilton. The Eskimos and Tiger Cats have previously done a quiet futures deal for a running back only to see a roster player move in the offseason. This could be the same with CJ Gable. Could a deal to send Franklin's rights to Hamilton in the offseason be a part of that?
I read somewhere that Hamilton will likely have a competition between Masoli and Manziel next season at QB. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on November 24, 2017, 06:12:50 PM
If Edmonton trades him to Hamilton, they already received the benefit of that trade: CJ Gable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on November 24, 2017, 06:13:21 PM
I read somewhere that Hamilton will likely have a competition between Masoli and Manziel next season at QB. 

Manziel is definitely the Hamilton X-factor.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 24, 2017, 06:16:16 PM
I'm sure Mike had agreed to a new contract with Edmonton prior to being traded. Is Franklin going to do that?

If not, Edmonton may still trade him, but it wont be for anything more than a bag of footballs.

IIRC Buono wanted DP's before letting a GM talk to Reilly.  Was there a backchannel expression of his desire to go to Edm?  Most likely.  But no deal was signed until after the trade.  Its the reason Mack didn't make the deal.

Similarly, Willy wasn't signed before SSK traded him to us, but he wanted to start and this was the most likely spot for that.  And we only gave up Jade, who we were not signing anyway.

EDM will get at least a second rounder from Reed for Franklin.  Maybe even a roster player, not that they need any...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 24, 2017, 06:18:48 PM
IIRC Buono wanted DP's before letting a GM talk to Reilly.  Was there a backchannel expression of his desire to go to Edm?  Most likely.  But no deal was signed until after the trade.  Its the reason Mack didn't make the deal.

Similarly, Willy wasn't signed before SSK traded him to us, but he wanted to start and this was the most likely spot for that.  And we only gave up Jade, who we were not signing anyway.

EDM will get at least a second rounder from Reed for Franklin.  Maybe even a roster player, not that they need any...

I am a firm believer in the theory that Buono was trying to fleece us out of draft picks when Reilly was going to hit FA and sign with Edmonton regardless. And that Mack wisely said no thanks.

In the Willy trade, we were Willy's only option, and he was our last resort after Collaros and Burris both signed elsewhere.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 24, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
IIRC Buono wanted DP's before letting a GM talk to Reilly.  Was there a backchannel expression of his desire to go to Edm?  Most likely.  But no deal was signed until after the trade.  Its the reason Mack didn't make the deal.

Similarly, Willy wasn't signed before SSK traded him to us, but he wanted to start and this was the most likely spot for that.  And we only gave up Jade, who we were not signing anyway.

EDM will get at least a second rounder from Reed for Franklin.  Maybe even a roster player, not that they need any...
I spoke to Joe Mack directly about this and he basically explained to me that Wally was trying to rip him off and that's why he didn't trade for Reilly. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bluebeard on November 24, 2017, 07:34:06 PM
I spoke to Joe Mack directly about this and he basically explained to me that Wally was trying to rip him off and that's why he didn't trade for Reilly. 

Is it not Wally's job to get the best return for his player that he can??  Mack was protecting his turf as he saw it at that time.  No doubt that he did not think Reilly was worth what Wally wanted.  Turns out that he was wrong.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 24, 2017, 07:35:48 PM
Is it not Wally's job to get the best return for his player that he can??  Mack was protecting his turf as he saw it at that time.  No doubt that he did not think Reilly was worth what Wally wanted.  Turns out that he was wrong.
No it's because Reilly had no intention of ever coming to Winnipeg.  Wally allowed Edmonton to talk to Reilly before making a trade, but he wouldn't allow Winnipeg to talk to him.  Hmmmm....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on November 24, 2017, 07:42:16 PM
It may be true that Reilly would never come to Winnipeg, but right now that's purely speculation. We have no way of knowing if he would have signed with us or not. No one in Reilly's camp has ever said he wouldn't have signed. Mack was not wrong because he was not allowed to gauge the interest by Reilly, but that does not mean Reilly would not have signed here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 24, 2017, 09:21:58 PM
No it's because Reilly had no intention of ever coming to Winnipeg.  Wally allowed Edmonton to talk to Reilly before making a trade, but he wouldn't allow Winnipeg to talk to him.  Hmmmm....

If Wally let Edm talk to Reilly, and Edm found that Reilly was very interested in coming to Edm, why the heck would they trade for him?  Wait for FA.  Did they think somehow we would up the ante too much? 

Unless there was a conditional pick pledged in exchange for talking with him, that if they signed him, they'd get the pick.  Which is effectively a trade, but after the fact.  That would make sense...  I wonder if Mack made an offer like that... if we signed him, Wally would get a first rounder...  would have been worth Wally letting Reilly talk to us.  Although it might then kill his deal with Edm, becasue once we were out of the picture, no need to trade for him...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 24, 2017, 09:36:36 PM
If Wally let Edm talk to Reilly, and Edm found that Reilly was very interested in coming to Edm, why the heck would they trade for him?  Wait for FA.  Did they think somehow we would up the ante too much? 

Unless there was a conditional pick pledged in exchange for talking with him, that if they signed him, they'd get the pick.  Which is effectively a trade, but after the fact.  That would make sense...  I wonder if Mack made an offer like that... if we signed him, Wally would get a first rounder...  would have been worth Wally letting Reilly talk to us.  Although it might then kill his deal with Edm, becasue once we were out of the picture, no need to trade for him...
I?d think Reilly wanted to create some leverage in negotiations. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In Edmonton on November 24, 2017, 11:03:29 PM
If Wally let Edm talk to Reilly, and Edm found that Reilly was very interested in coming to Edm, why the heck would they trade for him?  Wait for FA.  Did they think somehow we would up the ante too much? 

Unless there was a conditional pick pledged in exchange for talking with him, that if they signed him, they'd get the pick.  Which is effectively a trade, but after the fact.  That would make sense...  I wonder if Mack made an offer like that... if we signed him, Wally would get a first rounder...  would have been worth Wally letting Reilly talk to us.  Although it might then kill his deal with Edm, becasue once we were out of the picture, no need to trade for him...

That was probably the courtesy for allowing a player under contract to have a back channel conversation with another team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on November 27, 2017, 04:46:06 AM
Why are you taking about something that happened three yes ago.

Naylor said Franklin wants to pursue the NFL.  Now that should be enuff to scar teams away.  Franklin must have been concussed somewhere along the line and has brain damage.:)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on November 29, 2017, 01:42:18 AM
Franklin going to the NFL is absolutely laughable,laughable I say. What about the 9 STARTING Qb's, should they be going too!?!? Concussed is right!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on November 29, 2017, 01:45:28 AM
I kind of laughed when I heard that from Naylor.  Franklin should shut up and try and play a couple years in CFzl as a starter, before he Warren Moons it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on November 29, 2017, 02:38:54 AM
Franklin hasn't done much to warrant an NFL shot, but I can't fault him for potentially pursuing an opportunity. He's still young and probably has Practice Squad eligibility. And he has enough CFL film to have a job in Canada if the NFL doesn't pan out. That being said, if I were him I'd follow the money in the CFL for this offseason, sign a 2 year deal and go from there


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on November 29, 2017, 01:17:07 PM
Franklin going to the NFL is absolutely laughable,laughable I say. What about the 9 STARTING Qb's, should they be going too!?!? Concussed is right!!

The CFL QB who has lasted the longest in the NFL over the past several years was a backup who signed with Green Bay after never playing a CFL down. The NFL cares more about measurables than it does about playing time.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 29, 2017, 01:20:32 PM
Franklin hasn't done much to warrant an NFL shot, but I can't fault him for potentially pursuing an opportunity. He's still young and probably has Practice Squad eligibility. And he has enough CFL film to have a job in Canada if the NFL doesn't pan out. That being said, if I were him I'd follow the money in the CFL for this offseason, sign a 2 year deal and go from there

I suppose if you were comparing CFL starters money to NFL practice roster you might conclude that the CFL is the better way to go. But if you're following the money...you'd be hoping for a third-string roster spot in the NFL. Hang around the NFL doing that for a couple years and you'll make the same or more as a starter in the CFL over the same span.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on November 29, 2017, 01:21:32 PM
I suppose if you were comparing CFL starters money to NFL practice roster you might conclude that the CFL is the better way to go. But if you're following the money...you'd be hoping for a third-string roster spot in the NFL. Hang around the NFL doing that for a couple years and you'll make the same or more as a starter in the CFL over the same span.
NFL teams seldom carry 3 QBs. At best he would be a gameday scratch


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 29, 2017, 01:23:39 PM
NFL teams seldom carry 3 QBs. At best he would be a gameday scratch

Right but most carry three on the roster and you still have to pay them minimum I believe.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on November 29, 2017, 03:34:54 PM
Franklin going to the NFL is absolutely laughable,laughable I say. What about the 9 STARTING Qb's, should they be going too!?!? Concussed is right!!

I don't know, anybody willing to pay Gabbert, another MU QB and the guy Franklin replaced, $1,000,000 a year as a backup would be nuts, but they are... Daniels is making $5,000,000 this year and will probably never see the field... I'd take Franklin over Gabbert... We couldn't wait for Gabbert to leave MU


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on November 29, 2017, 05:00:17 PM
Remember, our 3rd stringer was in an NFL camp last spring....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on November 29, 2017, 05:12:45 PM
Remember, our 3rd stringer was in an NFL camp last spring....

I do not know what you're trying to add to the discussion here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on November 29, 2017, 05:15:30 PM
I do not know what you're trying to add to the discussion here.

I think that he is saying if our 3rd string QB can get a look by the NFL why wouldn't they give a look to Franklin... just my guess... seems logical as well...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on November 29, 2017, 05:19:51 PM
Remember, our 3rd stringer was in an NFL camp last spring....
Because his agent has connections and they needed a QB body for TC. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on November 29, 2017, 05:21:21 PM
Because his agent has connections and they needed a QB body for TC. 

well that changes everything, lol.... didn't know about the inside track...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 30, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
November 29, 2017 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed international running back/slotback Timothy Flanders to a one-year contract. Flanders was set to become a free agent in February.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/29/bombers-re-sign-timothy-flanders/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/29/bombers-re-sign-timothy-flanders/)

November 30, 2017 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with international kicker Justin Medlock on a one-year contract. Medlock was set to become a free agent in February.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/30/bombers-agree-terms-kicker-justin-medlock/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/30/bombers-agree-terms-kicker-justin-medlock/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on November 30, 2017, 04:25:42 PM
Bombers re-signed since end of season:
Patrick Neufeld - Nov 16  - 2 years
Jermarcus Hardrick - Nov 16 - 1 year
Derek Jones - Nov 20 - 2 years
Timothy Flanders -Nov 29 - 1 year
Justin Medlock - Nov 30 - 1 year

2018 potential CFL Free Agents:

WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS
PLAYER                   I/N    POS    SCHOOL   
BOND, Travis              I      OL       North Carolina   
BRYANT, Stanley         I      OL       East Carolina   
DENMARK, Clarence      I     WR       Arkansas Monticello   
DRESSLER, Weston      I      WR       North Dakota   
FEOLI GUDINO, Julian   N     WR       Laval   
FOGG, Kevin               I      DB        Liberty   
FOKETI, Manase          I      OL       West Texas A&M   
HEATH, TJ                  I      DB       Jacksonville State   
HURL, Sam                 N      LB       Calgary   
KNOX, Kyle                 I      LB        Fresno State   
LEFEVOUR, Dan           I      QB       Central Michigan   
LEGGETT, Maurice       I       DB       Valdosta State   
NEVIS, Drake              I       DL       Louisiana State   
NORMAND, Christophe  N      FB        Laval   
RANDLE, Chris             I      DB        Utah State   
THOMAS, Jake            N      DL        Acadia   
WESTERMAN, Jamaal    N     DL        Rutgers   
WILD, Ian                   I      LB        Mercyhurst College   
https://www.tsn.ca/2018-potential-cfl-free-agents-1.930503


Free Agent tracker:

https://www.cfl.ca/fa18/ (https://www.cfl.ca/fa18/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 01, 2017, 07:09:01 AM
And then there were 18 - Bomber Free Agents
Kyle Walters and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers football brain trust have been chipping away at their pending free agent list, knocking the number down to 18 over the past few weeks.

And while that total might sound some alarm bells, consider that it is the second fewest in the Canadian Football League next to the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, who head into December with 17 pending free agents.

The league released the official list Thursday morning, and unofficially - depending on what deals might already be in the hopper - there are currently 217 active players who will become free agents when the market opens at 11 a.m. CT on Tuesday, February 13th, 2018.

The Bombers signed kicker Justin Medlock to a one-year contract on Thursday' adding him to the recent signings of offensive linemen Jermarcus Hardrick and Pat Neufeld, running back Timothy Flanders and defensive back Derek Jones.

Here's a list of the other pending Bomber free agents, with a look at their age and production (in alphabetical order):

OL Travis Bond
Age: 26
FYI: His 2016 season was dominant as he turned 12 starts into a spot on the CFL All-Star Team and was named the Bombers' Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman. He ended the 2017 season missing the last two regular season games and the playoff loss to Edmonton. He might get another NFL look, but the Bombers also got solid play from Pat Neufeld at the left guard spot when Bond was injured, and his future may depend on whether they are committed to starting three Americans up front.

OL Stanley Bryant
Age: 31
FYI: Hasn't missed a game since joining the Bombers in 2015 and is coming off a season in which he was named the CFL's Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman. He's durable, a three-time all-star, and still seemingly with a ton left in his tank.

SB Clarence Denmark
Age: 32
FYI: Denmark was one of the feel-good stories of 2016, returning after being released to put up superb numbers (53 catches for 705 yards and eight TDs in just 10 games). His totals in 2017 were comparable: 58 receptions for 608 yards and seven TDs, but in his last eight games - including the playoffs - he was just 18-196-1. He's a future Bombers Hall of Famer because he's already in the club's Top 10 in receiving yardage, but the question is whether he'll be moving on or have the chance to move up the charts further in 2018.

SB/WR Weston Dressler
Age: 32
FYI: He was a 1K receiver for the Bombers in 2016, but injuries cut his numbers this past season as he finished with 51 receptions for 691 yards and three TDs in just 11 games. He remains one of the CFL's best receivers, is likely headed to the Canadian Football Hall of Fame, and - more importantly from a Bombers perspective - is one of the favourite targets of Matt Nichols. But there is also no shying away from his age and the fact he has missed 11 games over the last two years with the Bombers.

WR Julian Feoli-Gudino

Age: 30
FYI: Coming off his best season as a pro - 45 catches for 462 yards and three TDs. But at season's end, it was Matt Coates starting at the Canadian receiver spot and Drew Wolitarsky, who is just 22, is also in the picture.

DB/KR Kevin Fogg
Age: 27
FYI: Ended the year playing linebacker for the injured Maurice Leggett, but made his primary contributions as an extra defensive back and the club's primary punt returner, finishing sixth in the CFL with 775 yards and a TD.

OL Manase Foketi
Age: 27
FYI: Hard to get a read on Foketi, other than the coaching staff continues to rave about him even though he played only three games in 2016 and never took a snap in 2017. He's an import tackle on a team with two all-stars at that position in Bryant and Hardrick.

DB T.J. Heath
Age: 30
FYI: He's been nothing but solid since coming to Winnipeg from Toronto in the Drew Willy trade. Heath was a CFL all-star last year and a West Division all-star this season (the 2017 CFL All-Star Team will be unveiled soon) and has proven to be a ball-hawk with 12 interceptions, seven of them coming in 24 games with the Bombers.

LB Sam Hurl
Age: 27
FYI: He's criticized by many, but did finish third on the team with 65 tackles, an interception, sack and forced fumble. Hurl earned the starting middle linebacker gig coming out of training camp, but saw his snaps drop as the season progressed and Ian Wild returned from injury.

LB Kyle Knox
Age: 28
FYI: The athleticism is there, to be certain. But the Bombers also gave him every opportunity to grab the starting MLB job last season and he didn't. He's a solid special teams guy and flashes brilliance occasionally on defence, but is that enough?

QB Dan LeFevour
Age: 30
FYI: Did everything asked of him in his first year as Bomber. A big man at 6-3, 236 lbs, he gives the offence a dynamite option in third yardage and in his one start as a Bomber, helped manage the team to victory in the regular season finale in awful conditions in Calgary.

LB Maurice Leggett
Age: 31
FYI: A common take overheard during Grey Cup week: the Bombers shot at the Grey Cup was flushed the moment Leggett was lost for the season with a ruptured Achilles while fielding an on-side kick to preserve a win over B.C. in mid-October. Leggett, simply put, makes plays including 50 tackles, three sacks, three interceptions - one for a TD - and three forced fumbles while also returning a punt for a score. But the Achilles injury can leave a lot of doubt.

DT Drake Nevis
Age: 28
FYI: The Bombers signed Nevis - like Euclid Cummings before him - to help shore up their run defence and provide some push up the middle. There were flashes of that, including his best game of the season in Game 18, but not enough. Still, there are questions about the production from the inside and whether it is more scheme-related.

FB Christophe Normand
Age: 26
FYI: He's good at his job, but the decision by the Bombers to use both Andrew Harris and Timothy Flanders in the attack means his offensive touches are going to be even more limited.

CB Chris Randle
Age: 29
FYI: Authored his best season as a pro en route to being named the Bombers Most Outstanding Defensive player. A career-best five interceptions and two defensive touchdowns in 2017, but it's his leadership both on and off the field that makes him so valuable.

DT Jake Thomas
Age: 26
FYI: Forever under-rated, Thomas already has six seasons and 101 games under his belt and he?s still just 26. Set a career high with 21 tackles and tied a career high with four sacks while also picking off his first pass. A hard-hat and lunch-pail guy who is as durable as they come.

DE Jamaal Westerman
Age: 32
FYI: An arm injury cut short a productive season for the vet, as he was among the league leaders with seven sacks in 11 games before going down. He has 32 sacks in 47 games over three years as a Bomber - moving him into the team's Top 10 - but the emergence of Jackson Jeffcoat means his return isn't a given. Still, what Westerman gives in the dressing room and in his daily work in terms of leadership is also of immense value.

LB Ian Wild
Age: 27
FYI: He's a gamer and he's an intelligent and quiet leader on the defence. The issue with Wild is his injury history: he missed six games in 2016 and only appeared in five games this past season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/30/18-bomber-free-agents/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/11/30/18-bomber-free-agents/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 01, 2017, 12:35:53 PM
well that changes everything, lol.... didn't know about the inside track...

NFL tryouts and camp invitations are all about the inside track. Politics baby. It's why a tool like Gabbert, or Lindley can get a contract when quality guys are on the outside looking in.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on December 11, 2017, 11:40:43 AM
They should do at least one move this week. Walters mentioned in his presser that they have 18 days to sign Qadr Spooner (or else he would be free to sign somewhere) .

By my count, that 18 days will end this week.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 11, 2017, 12:33:29 PM
I had a dream the other night that the Bombers re-signed Manase Foketi!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on December 11, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
I had a dream the other night that the Bombers re-signed Manase Foketi!
I think John Hodge did too


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
I think John Hodge did too

Yep, couple days ago. Makes sense. Cheap depth.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 03:51:00 PM
Yep, couple days ago. Makes sense. Cheap depth.

 Darren Cameron‏@Darren_Cameron   Dec 9
The Bombers have not agreed to terms with Manase Foketi.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 03:54:01 PM

 Darren Cameron‏@Darren_Cameron   Dec 9
The Bombers have not agreed to terms with Manase Foketi.


I don't think anyone was suggesting that they had. Just a rumor that they are close.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 03:54:50 PM
I don't think anyone was suggesting that they had. Just a rumor that they are close.

CFL News‏ @CFL_News
#Bombers extend American offensive lineman  http://3downnation.com/2017/12/09/bombers-extend-american-offensive-lineman/ ? #CFL via @JohnDHodge



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 04:01:26 PM
CFL News‏ @CFL_News
#Bombers extend American offensive lineman  http://3downnation.com/2017/12/09/bombers-extend-american-offensive-lineman/ ? #CFL via @JohnDHodge



As I said, just a rumor that we are close. Not sure where CFL_News got that from Hodge's report.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 11, 2017, 04:01:55 PM
CFL News‏ @CFL_News
#Bombers extend American offensive lineman  http://3downnation.com/2017/12/09/bombers-extend-american-offensive-lineman/ ? #CFL via @JohnDHodge


Thanks...so I wasn?t dreaming then!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 04:10:09 PM
The link just takes you to an article by Hodge from a couple days ago saying the Bombers are close. Foketi has not been signed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 11, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
Wonder if Foketi is the heir apparent to that position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
Wonder if Foketi is the heir apparent to that position.

What position?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 04:23:49 PM
Had a dream that the Bombers canned Richie Hall and Marty Costello last night.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 11, 2017, 04:48:45 PM
What position?
Bryant's tackle spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 04:58:31 PM
Bryant's tackle spot.

I think he is Bryant's back up if that's what you mean. The heir apparent is hopefully Gray.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 11, 2017, 05:14:41 PM
I think he is Bryant's back up if that's what you mean. The heir apparent is hopefully Gray.

Probably and hopefully. Somewhere in the back of my mind though I've been wondering if Foketi slides into Bryant's spot and we save a good chunk of SMS there. It works if Foketi is ready to go. It would be the bold move of the offseason.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 05:16:38 PM
Probably and hopefully. Somewhere in the back of my mind though I've been wondering if Foketi slides into Bryant's spot and we save a good chunk of SMS there. It works if Foketi is ready to go. It would be the bold move of the offseason.

I don't think we let Bryant ride off into the sunset. He's too valuable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 11, 2017, 05:18:18 PM
Had a dream that the Bombers canned Richie Hall and Marty Costello last night.
I've read about Costello being let go a couple of times now but wondering what would be the reason?  Unless he is heading South pursuing a better offer which makes sense as he seems to have done a good job following up on Wylie and would have plenty of opportunities in the US. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 05:23:31 PM
I've read about Costello being let go a couple of times now but wondering what would be the reason?  Unless he is heading South pursuing a better offer which makes sense as he seems to have done a good job following up on Wylie and would have plenty of opportunities in the US. 

It could be he wasn't let go. Maybe, he's got a better offer down South. Maybe it's just a website glitch. lol..I agree though, he did a pretty good job I thought.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 11, 2017, 05:34:42 PM
If they are going to fire assistant coaches they might want to consider getting rid of Tony Missick DB coach or Glen Young LB coach first, these are the fall guys for keeping Hall.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 11, 2017, 05:37:17 PM
If they are going to fire assistant coaches they might want to consider getting rid of Tony Missick DB coach or Glen Young LB coach first, these are the fall guys for keeping Hall.

Young, for sure, did not have his guys playing well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on December 11, 2017, 11:03:57 PM
The good Lord himself couldn't get our LB playing well, we need more talent at this
position. We need to to our and find us an Awe or 2!!! BC found him, they're out there, we can't stay status quo at LB. we need playmakers /game changers, not pluggers.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming

#Bombers add three National players, all previously with the team; OL Cody Speller, S Abu Conteh, and WR/long-snapper Brendon Thera-Plamondon.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 13, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
December 11, 2017 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed national offensive lineman Cody Speller, national defensive back Abu Conteh and national receiver Brendon Thera-Plamondon.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/11/bombers-add-three-roster-3/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 13, 2017, 12:59:43 PM
December 12, 2017 - The CFL's Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman, Stanley Bryant, has agreed to terms on a  new two-year deal with Winnipeg. Bryant was set to be a free agent in February.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/12/bombers-agree-terms-tackle-stanley-bryant/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/12/bombers-agree-terms-tackle-stanley-bryant/)

Bryant, 31, received a two-year deal worth upwards of $200,000 per season, including bonuses, according to league sources. He made $180,000 last season with the Blue and Gold, but with the new deal, the Goldsboro, N.C., native is now among the highest-paid American offensive linemen in the CFL.

The compensation resembles the contract for Derek Dennis, who signed a three-year commitment with the Saskatchewan Roughriders this year after a breakout season with Calgary that included winning the CFL's most outstanding offensive lineman award. Dennis is expected to make close to $190,000 in each of the final two seasons of his contract.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/bombers-sign-bryant-for-two-more-years-463650483.html (https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/bombers-sign-bryant-for-two-more-years-463650483.html)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 13, 2017, 01:46:17 PM
Dennis is going to need to renegotiate or Jones will cut him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on December 13, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
Dennis is going to need to renegotiate or Jones will cut him.
Is this from a source or just a guess?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 13, 2017, 02:09:10 PM
Is this from a source or just a guess?
Not a source but common sense.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on December 13, 2017, 10:00:40 PM
Not a source but common sense.

If common sense works so well how come we have gone so long with no cup ?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on December 13, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
If common sense works so well how come we have gone so long with no cup ?

What are you even talking about?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on December 13, 2017, 10:49:57 PM
What are you even talking about?

gbill using common sense to know stuff....why can't the Bombers management do the same An get a cup


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 14, 2017, 12:03:45 AM
gbill using common sense to know stuff....why can't the Bombers management do the same An get a cup
I don?t see how Dennis needing to take a pay cut from his $190k salary has anything to do with the Bombers winning a Grey Cup  ???


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on December 14, 2017, 12:23:56 AM
I don?t see how Dennis needing to take a pay cut from his $190k salary has anything to do with the Bombers winning a Grey Cup  ???

The common sense part would help....no ?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on December 14, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
The common sense part would help....no ?
....what?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 14, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
Derek Dennis will be a very tough decision for Jones. He was awful last year and is paid a ton. Will Jones axe him? Likely, if they can get Campbell back. There is no way that any CFL team pays in the 200k range of an IMP OG.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on December 14, 2017, 01:16:48 PM
I bet Campbell bolts back out east...he never originally wanted to be there anyway...they are going to be even weaker on the O-line in 2018 I bet..And if sticking with a Glenn/bridge combo that could get ugly....fast


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bluebeard on December 14, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
Derek Dennis will be a very tough decision for Jones. He was awful last year and is paid a ton. Will Jones axe him? Likely, if they can get Campbell back. There is no way that any CFL team pays in the 200k range of an IMP OG.

They will keep Dennis if Campbell will not re up.  Word out of Regina is that Dennis got hurt in exhibition time and played hurt most of the year.  He is still not Campbell.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on December 14, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
PFFT...Fake news lol...just trying to justify a bust if you ask me


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 20, 2017, 12:26:08 PM
December 19, 2017 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with international slotback Weston Dressler on a one-year contract. Dressler was set to become a free agent in February.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/19/bombers-agree-terms-receiver-weston-dressler/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/19/bombers-agree-terms-receiver-weston-dressler/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 20, 2017, 12:42:55 PM
They will keep Dennis if Campbell will not re up.  Word out of Regina is that Dennis got hurt in exhibition time and played hurt most of the year.  He is still not Campbell.

Word out of Riderfans you mean. He was a straight up bust. If he was injured and incapable of playing they would have 6 gamed him until he was ready. They have waaaay too much SMS tied up in him to roll him out injured and ineffective.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 23, 2017, 01:58:58 AM
OK,

Mr. Walters.  We need to get at least one D guy signed.  We have some heart and soul guys sitting out there waving in the wind, we need them signed. 

Is the hold up in whether we are sticking with coach Hall?  Is Lapo lobbying for his guys?  Its just odd that none of the D guys are under contract yet. 

Feb 14 is a long way away, but it is going to get here real fast.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 27, 2017, 08:05:11 AM
December 26, 2017 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed International offensive lineman Manase Foketi. Foketi was scheduled to be a free agent in February after spending the past two seasons with Winnipeg.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/26/bombers-re-sign-offensive-lineman-manase-foketi/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/26/bombers-re-sign-offensive-lineman-manase-foketi/)

Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming 
Manase Foketi's new contract with the #Bombers is for two years.
https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/945780144794456065 (https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/945780144794456065)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 27, 2017, 08:15:54 AM
Remaining Bomber pending free-agents:

Dan LeFevour           QB   I         
Chris Normand          FB   N     
Clarence Denmark     WR   I     
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N   
Travis Bond             OL    I               
Drake  Nevis            DT    I     
Jake  Thomas           DT  N         
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N             
Ian Wild                  LB    I           
Kyle Knox                LB    I             
Sam Hurl                 LB   N       
Maurice Leggett       DB   I         
TJ Heath                 DB   I         
Chris Randle             DB   I       
Kevin Fogg              DB   I           


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 27, 2017, 08:48:19 AM
I count 41 Bombers under contract for next year. This seems to be a manageable number as it allows for the team to still target key free agents without the need to cut anyone from their roster.

The Bombers' roster page lists Ian Marouf but I didn't see that the club re-signed him. Last transaction on the CFL page has him being released from the practice roster on Nov 13th.

The Riders for comparison have 61 players with contracts and 18 pending free-agents. I think Jones will release a bunch of players in January like he did last year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
Remaining Bomber pending free-agents:

Dan LeFevour           QB   I         
Chris Normand          FB   N     

Clarence Denmark     WR   I     
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N   
Travis Bond             OL    I               
Drake  Nevis            DT    I     
Jake  Thomas           DT  N         
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N             
Ian Wild                  LB    I           
Kyle Knox                LB    I             
Sam Hurl                 LB   N       
Maurice Leggett       DB   I         
TJ Heath                 DB   I         
Chris Randle             DB   I       
Kevin Fogg              DB   I           


Guys I definately want back

Guys I wouldn't mind seeing signed

The rest, at the right price, no guarantees, to compete in TC to actually win a job, not just "not lose" a job...  I can't see Nevis, Bond, Westerman or Denmark fitting, not with other options available. 



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on December 27, 2017, 02:39:32 PM
My Take:

Dan LeFevour           QB   I      - Good short yardage RB, but we need more from out backup QB's.
Chris Normand          FB   N     - Not a huge need, but would be an OK signing
Clarence Denmark     WR   I     - Didn't do enough last year to get another contract.
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N    - Coates basically took his spot last year. Time to draft another receiver.
Travis Bond             OL    I       - Already gone, just hasn't been announced yet.     
Drake  Nevis            DT    I      - Too much money for what he brought to the table last year.
Jake  Thomas           DT  N       - Good to sign at the right price.
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N     - Love to have him back. He's an NI who plays like an import.
Ian Wild                  LB    I      - Great when he's healthy, but he isn't healthy often enough. Time to move on.
Kyle Knox                LB    I      - Would be a good signing at the right dollars.
Sam Hurl                 LB   N      - Don't want him back, but the Bomber likely do.
Maurice Leggett       DB   I       - See how the injury heals before making any offers and I know that might mean we lose him.
TJ Heath                 DB   I       - Number 2 guy left that we need to sign.
Chris Randle             DB   I      - Number 1 guy left that we need to sign.
Kevin Fogg              DB   I        - Like to have him back, but not on a big salary. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on December 27, 2017, 02:45:36 PM
JFG is still good enough to be on the roster as a rotation / back up depending on his salary level. Not sure yet what Wolitarsky will bring to the table.

Westerman and Thomas are important ratio players. Westerman is a NI starter and we can't afford to lose him unless we make a big signing in free agency. SMS is an issue but so is any Canadian starter.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2017, 04:46:47 PM
JFG is still good enough to be on the roster as a rotation / back up depending on his salary level. Not sure yet what Wolitarsky will bring to the table.

Westerman and Thomas are important ratio players. Westerman is a NI starter and we can't afford to lose him unless we make a big signing in free agency. SMS is an issue but so is any Canadian starter.

Moving from Bond to Neufeld/Spooner/Couture means we can move from Westerman to Okpaluago.  So the hefty price tag that comes with a 33 yr old Westerman coming off an injury can be moved to another area of need...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 04:55:13 PM
Moving from Bond to Neufeld/Spooner/Couture means we can move from Westerman to Okpaluago.  So the hefty price tag that comes with a 33 yr old Westerman coming off an injury can be moved to another area of need...
Can we?  Hurl will be replaced by an American MLB too...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 27, 2017, 05:19:27 PM
Moving from Bond to Neufeld/Spooner/Couture means we can move from Westerman to Okpaluago.  So the hefty price tag that comes with a 33 yr old Westerman coming off an injury can be moved to another area of need...

If we can get Westerman back we will. It doesn't matter what other changes are made to the NAT lineup.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on December 27, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
If we can get Westerman back we will. It doesn't matter what other changes are made to the NAT lineup.

Neufeld < Bond and Couture < Neufeld. Aside from Neufeld's injury history / potential we're taking a hit with our depth. The one advantage is the ratio change but depending on injuries during the season this may turn out to be a problem.

OTOH, I suppose it's time for Couture to step up but his sample of play is small so no idea what to expect. Ditto with Spooner.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 27, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Neufeld < Bond and Couture < Neufeld. Aside from Neufeld's injury history / potential we're taking a hit with our depth. The one advantage is the ratio change but depending on injuries during the season this may turn out to be a problem.

OTOH, I suppose it's time for Couture to step up but his sample of play is small so no idea what to expect. Ditto with Spooner.

It's definitely a risk, but obviously 3 IMP on the line was not the goal of our drafting strategy. Hopefully we drafted well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on December 27, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
It's definitely a risk, but obviously 3 IMP on the line was not the goal of our drafting strategy. Hopefully we drafted well.

Of course, plus Bond was probably not expecting to be back with NFL hopes. So we have what we have. Neufeld played fairly well when Bond was out but our run game did seem to suffer. Not sure but that could have been due to getting game conditioning and working with 1st team OL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2017, 06:01:38 PM
Neufeld < Bond and Couture < Neufeld. Aside from Neufeld's injury history / potential we're taking a hit with our depth. The one advantage is the ratio change but depending on injuries during the season this may turn out to be a problem.

OTOH, I suppose it's time for Couture to step up but his sample of play is small so no idea what to expect. Ditto with Spooner.

Chungh played his first year, and Goossen was our starter in his second... we don't know where Spooner and Couture are in their development, if either beats Neufeld our for the LG (or RG spot with Chungh moving to LG), that is great for the depth on the Oline.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 27, 2017, 06:02:43 PM
Of course, plus Bond was probably not expecting to be back with NFL hopes. So we have what we have. Neufeld played fairly well when Bond was out but our run game did seem to suffer. Not sure but that could have been due to getting game conditioning and working with 1st team OL.

Could be because we had zero receiver depth and teams just started to load the box on us as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on December 27, 2017, 07:36:04 PM
Chungh played his first year, and Goossen was our starter in his second... we don't know where Spooner and Couture are in their development, if either beats Neufeld our for the LG (or RG spot with Chungh moving to LG), that is great for the depth on the Oline.

I stated it as a question while you look at it optimistically as a positive. Go figure.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2017, 09:59:32 PM
Let's say 3 on the OL, RB, WR, Safety, who's the 7th NI starter if you don't bring back Westerman?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 10:02:17 PM
Let's say 3 on the OL, RB, WR, Safety, who's the 7th NI starter if you don't bring back Westerman?
Probably Thomas/Ekakitie.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 27, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
Let's say 3 on the OL, RB, WR, Safety, who's the 7th NI starter if you don't bring back Westerman?

How about it a nice Cdn receiver! A surprise entry if you will.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on December 27, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
Probably Thomas/Ekakitie.

Might work if we have a significant upgrade at MLB that is actually making plays. It's not great when our safety is the leading tackler. That indicates opposition players well beyond the LOS.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2017, 11:39:45 PM
Let's say 3 on the OL, RB, WR, Safety, who's the 7th NI starter if you don't bring back Westerman?

You will be rotating in at least one of Ekakitie, Thomas and Corney...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on December 28, 2017, 04:38:00 AM
You will be rotating in at least one of Ekakitie, Thomas and Corney...

That's not a good thing considering the talent of the players that won't be on the field. That said it's probably a better option than a dud at MLB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 28, 2017, 12:22:43 PM
That's not a good thing considering the talent of the players that won't be on the field. That said it's probably a better option than a dud at MLB.

Thomas was a solid Dlineman last year.  Ekakitie is a first overall with upside.  Corney is a physical freak who is getting better all the time, no telling how good he will be.  No issues with any of them, in my books.  Especially in a unit that has to rotate on a regular basis.  From a talent + ratio consideration,  I think its pretty solid, with upside.

Not sure who is going to be the other Int DT next year, Poop will be one for sure, but I don't see Nevis back (from either team or players perspective), 2 years ago we signed Cummings, last year we signed Nevis, so I'm sure Walters will find someone, or the scouts will find another Johnson or Jeffcoat...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 28, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
Thomas was a solid Dlineman last year.  Ekakitie is a first overall with upside.  Corney is a physical freak who is getting better all the time, no telling how good he will be.  No issues with any of them, in my books.  Especially in a unit that has to rotate on a regular basis.  From a talent + ratio consideration,  I think its pretty solid, with upside.

Not sure who is going to be the other Int DT next year, Poop will be one for sure, but I don't see Nevis back (from either team or players perspective), 2 years ago we signed Cummings, last year we signed Nevis, so I'm sure Walters will find someone, or the scouts will find another Johnson or Jeffcoat...

They don't need to find another Johnson or Jeffcoat, they need to find LBers and secondary that can play the game. Thomas can play but does not have the stamina to be more than a rotational player, Corney is a pass rush freak but is very weak against the run which is why he is only used situationally, and Ekakitie struggled last year. Westerman is an elite pass rusher and his tackle totals over his career are outstanding. He is not as easy to replace and you would like people to believe. He is one of a handful of NATs in this league that are amongst the very best at their positions in the league other than OL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 28, 2017, 01:23:47 PM
If we can get Westerman back we will. It doesn't matter what other changes are made to the NAT lineup.

Exactly. He's a top DE in the league, a NAT, and a key veteran leader on top of it. You try and keep a player like that. I hope the Bombers do.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on December 28, 2017, 02:20:14 PM
Exactly. He's a top DE in the league, a NAT, and a key veteran leader on top of it. You try and keep a player like that. I hope the Bombers do.

He is a top DE, yes.  He's coming off a muscle injury.  He's 33.  He takes a LOT of penalties.  And he is going to eat up a huge chunk of SMS.

Yes, I'd love him back. 

But I can't see how we can afford him.  Reed will offer him the moon.  His brother has already told him, I'd bet. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 29, 2017, 12:04:46 PM
December 28, 2017 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed International defensive tackle Drake Nevis to a one-year contract. Nevis was set to become a free agent in February.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/28/bombers-re-sign-defensive-tackle-drake-nevis/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/28/bombers-re-sign-defensive-tackle-drake-nevis/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on December 29, 2017, 12:15:14 PM
He is a top DE, yes.  He's coming off a muscle injury.  He's 33.  He takes a LOT of penalties.  And he is going to eat up a huge chunk of SMS.

Yes, I'd love him back. 

But I can't see how we can afford him.  Reed will offer him the moon.  His brother has already told him, I'd bet. 

He will eat up a large chunk of SMS....and is totally worth every penny for what he provides. Walters will pinch his pennies elsewhere, or at least he should. Trying to save SMS by jettisoning all star calibre NATs is how you become Taman's Riders circa 2015.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on December 29, 2017, 12:52:12 PM
He is a top DE, yes.  He's coming off a muscle injury.  He's 33.  He takes a LOT of penalties.  And he is going to eat up a huge chunk of SMS.

Yes, I'd love him back. 

But I can't see how we can afford him.  Reed will offer him the moon.  His brother has already told him, I'd bet. 

Possibly. But Reed only listen to Mack. :P


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on December 30, 2017, 12:20:11 PM
December 29, 2017 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive backs Travis Howard and Sam Brown, and International defensive tackle Daniel Awoleke.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/29/bombers-add-three-roster-4/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2017/12/29/bombers-add-three-roster-4/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on January 08, 2018, 03:47:28 PM
Hi Bombers, any re-signings yet?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 08, 2018, 11:21:59 PM
January 9, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed International linebacker Ian Wild to a one-year contract. Wild was set to become a free agent in February.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/08/bombers-re-sign-linebacker-ian-wild/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/08/bombers-re-sign-linebacker-ian-wild/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on January 08, 2018, 11:27:36 PM
He is a top DE, yes.  He's coming off a muscle injury.  He's 33.  He takes a LOT of penalties.  And he is going to eat up a huge chunk of SMS.

Yes, I'd love him back. 

But I can't see how we can afford him.  Reed will offer him the moon.  His brother has already told him, I'd bet. 
You're right, my money says he signs with the Als as well. They don't have $400k tied up in their starting Qb, so have alot more room to offer Westerman a fat payday, and I think he gets it here. Hoping he stays with us, but as every day passes, I doubt it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 09, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Hi Bombers, any re-signings yet?

Ed Tait‏  @EdTaitWFC
The #Bombers have now signed 10 prospective free agents: Stanley Bryant, Weston Dressler, Manase Foketi, Justin Medlock, Drake Nevis, Derek Jones, Jermarcus Hardrick, Pat Neufeld, Timothy Flanders and Ian Wild.

Ed Tait‏  @EdTaitWFC
Remaining un-signed #Bombers free agents include: Travis Bond, Clarence Denmark, Julian Feoli-Gudino, Kevin Fogg, T.J. Heath, Sam Hurl, Kyle Knox, Dan LeFevour, Maurice Leggett, Chris Normand, Chris Randle, Jake Thomas and Jamaal Westerman.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on January 09, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
Out of the list my wish is for: Westerman, Thomas, Randle, Leggett, Heath, Normand, Fogg.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 09, 2018, 03:38:11 PM
Remaining un-signed #Bombers free agents include:

SMS/Ratio Casualties
Travis Bond,
Clarence Denmark,

Training camp competion
Julian Feoli-Gudino,
Kyle Knox,
Dan LeFevour,

ST, at ST/backup pay

Kevin Fogg,
Sam Hurl,
Chris Normand,

Must signs
T.J. Heath,
Maurice Leggett,
Chris Randle,
Jake Thomas

At the right price;
Jamaal Westerman.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on January 09, 2018, 03:50:25 PM
I think it's funny to have Westerman as an at the right price and Thomas as a must sign.

Need back:

Randle
Heath
Westerman

Back at the right price:

Thomas
Leggett
Fogg
Hurl (As a special teamer/backup)

Rest:
Time to move on.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on January 09, 2018, 03:55:15 PM
of our remaining free agents....a must is Leggett..Randle..Westerman

Be nice to have back would be Heath and lesser extent Fogg...Also Normand...tho if we don't intend to use him in any manner than we can get by with a cheaper option for what he has done for us

The rest are not a loss if we don't bring back..then prioritize 2 guys in free agency who will make us better...and work with what we want to do ratio wise and allow us to utilize our back-ups on the roster that we have already signed as injury and rotation guys


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on January 09, 2018, 03:55:57 PM
I think it's funny to have Westerman as an at the right price and Thomas as a must sign.

Need back:

Randle
Heath
Westerman

Back at the right price:

Thomas
Leggett
Fogg
Hurl (As a special teamer/backup)

Rest:
Time to move on.



This looks to agree with my settlement as well, I mean I would want Bond back but I don't see it in the cards.  I also like the work of Normand and would bring him back as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on January 09, 2018, 04:08:03 PM
Bond is a great player, but his birth certificate works against him for me. I'd rather go with 3 NI OL than 2 NI OL and Hurl at MLB. If we sign Westerman and Thomas, then we could get away without Hurl at MLB, but then we won't have the cash for Bond.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on January 09, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
I think it's funny to have Westerman as an at the right price and Thomas as a must sign.

Need back:

Randle
Heath
Westerman

Back at the right price:

Thomas
Leggett
Fogg
Hurl (As a special teamer/backup)

Rest:
Time to move on.



I agree with the list. At the moment most teams have top DB's as potential free agents. So yes there could be interest in Heath or Randle. It will depend on which players reach free agency and move first. If one or two move then a domino effect is created.

In theory I think most of the potential free agent DB's stay put. We'll offer Heath and Randle fair contracts IMO and retain their services. I would like to be one of the teams that signs another teams top DB in free agency to improve our secondary beyond our own two top guys.

Westerman is a different issue with his passport. He might be more difficult to sign even with a fair contract. He likes it here so we have the edge in retaining him. I'll feel much better once we get his name on a new deal though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 09, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
I think it's funny to have Westerman as an at the right price and Thomas as a must sign.


Thomas is a very important part of the D, and shouldn't carry the kind of premium that Westerman might.  But sure, all of the signings are essentially at the right price, although certain ones (Randle, Leggett) I'd be willing to overspend the budget on... a little... ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 09, 2018, 05:00:01 PM
Thomas is a very important part of the D, and shouldn't carry the kind of premium that Westerman might.  But sure, all of the signings are essentially at the right price, although certain ones (Randle, Leggett) I'd be willing to overspend the budget on... a little... ;)

I like Thomas...but no he's not. He's a situational NAT player. He gets a dozen defensive reps a game and performs well while in there, but he is easily replaceable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on January 09, 2018, 05:01:43 PM
I like Thomas...but no he's not.

I guess it's to kill another thread going around and around with aards on this one.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 09, 2018, 05:02:36 PM
I guess it's to kill another thread going around and around with aards on this one.

Hope not.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue girl on January 09, 2018, 07:15:03 PM
I say that we must sign Randle, Heath and Leggett and if possible Westerman. I did have Bond as a must sign but I changed my mind on that. The rest I don't care one way or the other.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 09, 2018, 07:31:55 PM
I like Thomas...but no he's not. He's a situational NAT player. He gets a dozen defensive reps a game and performs well while in there, but he is easily replaceable.

They have to sign at least one of Thomas or Westerman or their D-line ratio is screwed.  They already have Oko and Jeffcoat so I suspect it'll be easier and cheaper to retain Thomas.

Edit:Forgot about Ekakitie but not sure if he's ready yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 07:33:27 PM
They have to sign at least one of Thomas or Westerman or their D-line ratio is screwed.  They already have Oko and Jeffcoat so I suspect it'll be easier and cheaper to retain Thomas.
Or they may have decided to go with Ekakitie and a cheap backup this season like Butcher or that other guy they had on the roster for a few games. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on January 09, 2018, 07:42:05 PM
going cheaper is workign backwards and why you don't get over the hump.
Cheaper is going with Ekakite and Corney on their existing contracts for National rotation and sign Westerman using part of Thomas last years salary to fluff Westerman's...and remainder of Thomas salary goes toward a national draft pick if one makes the roster in 2018, or another role player who is national in free agency to replace Thomas...or just roster a guy who was on and off last year...Drew..Renaud..Conteh...Branning...heck maybe even Marouf...options are there to be had


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 09, 2018, 08:14:24 PM
I like Thomas...but no he's not. He's a situational NAT player. He gets a dozen defensive reps a game and performs well while in there, but he is easily replaceable.
I'm not saying Thomas is a must sign but he's on the field more than 20 percent of the defensive snaps. I think it's closer to 50 percent than 20.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on January 09, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
and truthfully...closer to 50 isn't a thing you would want


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 09, 2018, 08:38:05 PM
Or they may have decided to go with Ekakitie and a cheap backup this season like Butcher or that other guy they had on the roster for a few games. 

Marouf... who is on the roster now...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 09, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
Marouf... who is on the roster now...
I don't know about that. He was released from the practice roster and his re-signing was never announced. They might have just forgot to remove him from the roster page on their website.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 09:54:01 PM
Marouf... who is on the roster now...
Him too, but I was thinking of Brandon Tennent. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 11, 2018, 10:33:51 PM
January 11, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Eric Patterson.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/11/bombers-add-db-eric-patterson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/11/bombers-add-db-eric-patterson/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 11, 2018, 11:18:33 PM
Current Roster:
QBs                 2
Nationals         21
Internationals   24


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on January 12, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
what's his 40?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 12, 2018, 07:42:32 PM
what's his 40?

4.52


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue72 on January 13, 2018, 05:26:08 PM
My thoughts about this year is we have to win big or next could be big changes. If we drop down and win less it could mean  a change in coaches and starting over again. It also could be loosing a couple big names also EG: a lot of NAT o linemen that contracts coming to an end and may want to go to a winning team, some big names getting past the 30 year age, Harris, Dressler, Leggett, Randle, Bryant, Nichols.

Players want that playoff and grey cup check and with a loosing record that we have and if we have to start over again how many players will want to come here unless FA for more money and just 1 year contract. We are going to have to find another better QB as a backup and not a 34 plus guy and maybe a replacement #1 and 2 receiver if these guys get hurt again and a #1 or 2 RB as Harris is getting up there and can't take the hits like he did last year.

The d has to show a lot of inprovement this year since MOS is keeping Hall and bringing in his friend in Young and Younger. Are they the best he could find or is he just counting on his old friends to help fix this mess and keep his job. This year MOS can't put the blame on anyone this year on D as it is his buddies.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on January 13, 2018, 06:05:28 PM
It's not quite as black and white as that but we agree. The key to most teams seasons in not having serious injuries to key players . In particular getting healthy at the end of the season and having enough good depth to survive in the meantime.

Losing Leggett, Westerman and Nichols with hand injuries didn't help at the end of the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 13, 2018, 06:24:43 PM
It's not quite as black and white as that but we agree. The key to most teams seasons in not having serious injuries to key players . In particular getting healthy at the end of the season and having enough good depth to survive in the meantime.

Losing Leggett, Westerman and Nichols with hand injuries didn't help at the end of the season.

And Adams...

Injuries during the season are one thing.  Injuries for the playoofs are something completely different.  When you are in an elimination situation in every game, you have to field your best.  Losing 6 games in a row during the season can still get you into the playoffs...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on January 13, 2018, 06:27:45 PM
It's not quite as black and white as that but we agree. The key to most teams seasons in not having serious injuries to key players . In particular getting healthy at the end of the season and having enough good depth to survive in the meantime.

Losing Leggett, Westerman and Nichols with hand injuries didn't help at the end of the season.
Yep.....we obviously were hit hard near the end and pretty tough to replace a Legget or an Adams. Our existing core of players weren?t able to step up enough to win in crunch time.   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on January 13, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
And Adams...

Injuries during the season are one thing.  Injuries for the playoofs are something completely different.  When you are in an elimination situation in every game, you have to field your best.  Losing 6 games in a row during the season can still get you into the playoffs...

Both the Esks and Stamps had about 20 players on their IR at the end of the season. Many of those were starting players. The Esks lost about 4 RB's during the season and trading for Gable was about their 5th starting RB. They lost Sherritt and many starting OL.

The Esks still have 71 players on their roster as a result. We finished the season about 54 and then signed a few of our PR guys and a few rookies since the end of the season. Now we sit at 60 IIRC.

So don't spew that we were the hardest hit going into the playoffs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on January 13, 2018, 09:28:12 PM
Sure, our injuries came at a poor time. But if they would've come earlier I doubt we would've made the playoffs


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 13, 2018, 09:47:35 PM
Both the Esks and Stamps had about 20 players on their IR at the end of the season. Many of those were starting players. The Esks lost about 4 RB's during the season and trading for Gable was about their 5th starting RB. They lost Sherritt and many starting OL.

The Esks still have 71 players on their roster as a result. We finished the season about 54 and then signed a few of our PR guys and a few rookies since the end of the season. Now we sit at 60 IIRC.

So don't spew that we were the hardest hit going into the playoffs.


So, was Gable better or worse than their #1 RB?  They got lucky that HAM had a problem with two good RB's on their roster and only room for one.  Sure, they lost Sherritt, but had more than compensated by the time the post season hit.

The big loss was Nichols/Adams.  Not guys you can replace easily, or at that time of year. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on January 13, 2018, 09:54:15 PM

So, was Gable better or worse than their #1 RB?  They got lucky that HAM had a problem with two good RB's on their roster and only room for one.  Sure, they lost Sherritt, but had more than compensated by the time the post season hit.

The big loss was Nichols/Adams.  Not guys you can replace easily, or at that time of year. 

Nichols threw for 371 yards, 72.9% completion with 3 TD's in the WSF against Edmonton. In fact that was better than Reilly's game.

Face it. The Esks had a better overall roster all season than the Bombers.

If Reilly had been injured or nicked they had Franklin. We had Lefevour. Edmonton brought back D. Walker and Grymes going into the playoffs. We brought in? They were smart enough to trade for Gable. They made / found changes to make due to injuries and to improve where necessary.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on January 13, 2018, 09:57:52 PM
Yes, they did, as did the Stamps, and Riders are improving/closing fast. Collaros is going to help them immensely. West is going to be a lot tougher in 2018, and it was tough in 2017!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 13, 2018, 11:16:50 PM

So, was Gable better or worse than their #1 RB?  They got lucky that HAM had a problem with two good RB's on their roster and only room for one.  Sure, they lost Sherritt, but had more than compensated by the time the post season hit.

The big loss was Nichols/Adams.  Not guys you can replace easily, or at that time of year. 



A load of crap.

They made moves to win.. We didnt and we lost.

Bottom line is we did not do what it takes to win. Are we trying?  Yes... ill agree....  but others do and make moves to win. We sorta sit and say....  well....  we will.

We dont do it.

We fill just enough gaps ...... Like Hurl.  We are told to be happy with that.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on January 14, 2018, 02:05:14 AM
The reason we lost the WSF, was because our secondary completely lost and left uncovered zylstra and Bowman on separate plays for 14 points. Those blunders right there cost us the game. Leaving their 2 most dangerous weapons complete uncovered for TDs cost us the game.

 Spare me the malarkey about who we lost to injury and who didn't step up to make plays, there are guys in our secondary who are absolutely lost out there and that cost us the game. They must be replaced for us to move forward


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on January 15, 2018, 02:26:02 PM
Both the Esks and Stamps had about 20 players on their IR at the end of the season. Many of those were starting players. The Esks lost about 4 RB's during the season and trading for Gable was about their 5th starting RB. They lost Sherritt and many starting OL.

The Esks still have 71 players on their roster as a result. We finished the season about 54 and then signed a few of our PR guys and a few rookies since the end of the season. Now we sit at 60 IIRC.

So don't spew that we were the hardest hit going into the playoffs.

I think injury timing does make a difference though. When we received our injuries we also couldn't sign and play certain players or allow them time to really get used to our play book. Sure Edmonton had a ton of long term injuries, but those injuries game hard and early. A seven win streak allowed them to work throug the injuries and find adequate replacements. By the time playoffs rolled around they had a winning streak going on with the replacements and even got some key starters back though some of those starters had even lost their roles to the replacements. When our injury bug hit us we didn't really have much opportunity to do the same thing, one of our major injuries also fell during the period where you could sign a guy that was released but he couldn't play this year. That means all we could play would have been pure rooks or of the shelf vets that no one wanted at all. So I mean we could compare ourselves to Edmonton, or accept that Edmonton was a strong team come playoff time with different circumstances then our own.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 15, 2018, 02:37:51 PM
As Milt Stegall says, injuries are no excuse. A well rounded and built football team can overcome injuries. Simple as that. It sucks when starters go down but losing 3 players, unless it's your QB, shouldn't end your season. The Bombers had poor depth behind Leggett, no answer for losing Westerman at NAT, and unready receiving depth when injuries struck. Part of KW's job is having players behind these guys that don't constitute a drop off a cliff if they go down. We lost because we didn't have the depth we needed to win at certain positions. Plain and simple.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on January 15, 2018, 02:43:36 PM
The timing of our injuries was important. If we'd got them early in the season, we most likely wouldn't have made the playoffs at all.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 15, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
The timing of our injuries was important. If we'd got them early in the season, we most likely wouldn't have made the playoffs at all.

This could be true. It's why I don't buy into the 'well we were injured excuse".


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on January 15, 2018, 03:24:51 PM
The timing of our injuries was important. If we'd got them early in the season, we most likely wouldn't have made the playoffs at all.

I think that's overly pessimistic.  I think if those injuries had occurred mid-season we likely go 10-8 instead of 12-6 and would have had to go on the road for the play-offs. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 15, 2018, 03:26:14 PM
I think that's overly pessimistic.  I think if those injuries had occurred mid-season we likely go 10-8 instead of 12-6 and would have had to go on the road for the play-offs. 

Probably....if the SAME injuries had occurred.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on January 15, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
I think injury timing does make a difference though. When we received our injuries we also couldn't sign and play certain players or allow them time to really get used to our play book. Sure Edmonton had a ton of long term injuries, but those injuries game hard and early. A seven win streak allowed them to work throug the injuries and find adequate replacements. By the time playoffs rolled around they had a winning streak going on with the replacements and even got some key starters back though some of those starters had even lost their roles to the replacements. When our injury bug hit us we didn't really have much opportunity to do the same thing, one of our major injuries also fell during the period where you could sign a guy that was released but he couldn't play this year. That means all we could play would have been pure rooks or of the shelf vets that no one wanted at all. So I mean we could compare ourselves to Edmonton, or accept that Edmonton was a strong team come playoff time with different circumstances then our own.

Yes it makes a difference however it's a matter of having good depth with players on the PR.

I struggle to name ONE player on the PR after TC that was activated that made any impact. Other teams had that depth that we didn't.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue72 on January 15, 2018, 04:05:29 PM
Most of MOS backups are ST players only and not real backups eg:LBers


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 15, 2018, 05:11:38 PM
Most of MOS backups are ST players only and not real backups eg:LBers

Those are the players that Walters provides.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Ducky on January 15, 2018, 05:31:43 PM
Key injuries at the end of the season definitely hurt the Bombers chances.  Dont forget the Eskimos lost, what, 7 in a row with all their injuries.

Still, what cost the Bombers against the Eskimos were the same problems the D had ALL YEAR.  Giving up big plays.  Blown coverage leaving receivers uncovered in the backfield.  Sometimes 15 or so yards away from the nearest defender.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 16, 2018, 12:21:41 AM
Those are the players that Walters provides.

How does that differ from any other team, though? Most back-ups play on STs, anyway.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 18, 2018, 12:36:51 AM
Free agency check-in  - One month out
January 12th - Ed Tait

There's often a panicky feel to the days leading up to Canadian Football League free agency, both from inside the inner sanctums of the nine franchises and from their loyal fan bases.

The move toward one-year contracts means the annual list of free agents is longer and more substantial than in years past, with talented players hitting the open market every winter.

And it means this is the time of year when finger nails get gnawed to the nub, when nerves are frayed, and when both pride and anger boil over during negotiations.

It's no different here in Winnipeg with the Blue Bombers, as GM Kyle Walters hinted this week from CFL meetings in Banff; the challenge of keeping intact a talented squad that has gone 23-13 over the last two regular seasons is impossible while working under a salary cap that jumps only $50,000 this year.

It's the harsh business reality of this league, but it?s news that likely doesn?t make any of the 13 Bombers still unsigned all warm and fuzzy about possible returns in blue and gold.

All that said, the next few weeks are when GMs, agents and players really roll up their sleeves and hammer out deals in the days before the opening of free agency at 11 a.m. on February 13th.

Consider last year: In the month or so before free agency, CFL teams combined to lock up 52 potential free agents before the deadline with the Bombers inking Stanley Bryant, Dom Davis, Justin Medlock, Darvin Adams, and Matt Nichols in January, and Jesse Briggs the day before the market opened.

Walters said this week none of the remaining unsigned free agents have officially been told they will not be back in 2018. That said, not all of them will return and the Bombers GM plans to meet with head coach Mike O'Shea this week to discuss where negotiations stand with each player.

At the same time, the club has been studying the league-wide list of prospective free agents, making this an awkward time of year when teams are negotiating with their own talent while eyeing possible replacement soon to hit the market.

With that in mind, bluebombers.com looks at the 13 unsigned Bombers and what might be on the horizon just over a month out from the market opening?

CB CHRIS RANDLE
Age: 29
His 2017: A sensational campaign in which he was named the Bombers' Most Outstanding Defensive Player and named to the CFL All-Star team.
Synopsis: He's a shutdown corner on a defence prone to giving up explosion plays. Will draw huge interest on the open market if he gets there.

DB T.J. HEATH
Age: 30
His 2017: Also named to the CFL All-Star team. Worked well alongside Randle in the Bombers secondary. Ball-hawking halfback who has 12 interceptions in 34 CFL games.
Synopsis: Another stellar DB who deserves a raise and will garner interest if he?s free in mid-February.

LB MAURICE LEGGETT
Age: 31
His 2017: Cut short by his Achilles injury in October. Was finishing up the latest in a series of spectacular seasons.
Synopsis: The Achilles may be a red flag for some, but Leggett insists his recovery is ahead of schedule. A fan favourite brought to the CFL by the Bombers, he's another who will be popular in free agency even with the questions about the injury and his age, because he's dominant at the most difficult spot to play on defence.

SB CLARENCE DENMARK
Age: 32
His 2017: Proved - again - that he is still productive by pulling in 58 catches for 608 yards and seven touchdowns. His numbers did drop down the stretch, with just seven catches for 57 yards and no TDs in his final five games.
Synopsis: The Bombers and Denmark have been down this road before. He was cut prior to 2016 before returning during a rash of injuries. The decision to re-sign Weston Dressler may impact Denmark's future status.

OL TRAVIS BOND
Age: 27
His 2017: Posted a solid campaign after bursting onto the scene in 2016 as a CFL All-Star. Missed the final few games due to an upper-body injury and was replaced by Patrick Neufeld.
Synopsis: The Bombers' need for more roster flexibility likely means the days of starting three imports on the O-line are finito. Both starting tackles in Stanley Bryant and Jermarcus Hardrick have been re-signed, as have Neufeld and import Manase Foketi. Draft picks Michael Couture and Qadr Spooner have also been developing. Bond won't last long in free agency because he can be a dominant pile pusher.

LB KYLE KNOX
Age: 28
His 2017: Camp opened last year with Knox as the front-runner for the middle linebacker job. He ended up starting eight games, making 33 tackles and adding two sacks.
Synopsis: Hard to figure where Knox might fit in now with the re-signing of Ian Wild and the emergence of Jovan Santos-Knox as a starter later in the season.

DB KEVIN FOGG
Age: 27
His 2017: Appeared in 15 games, starting five and leading the team in punt returns while picking off two passes.
Synopsis: A popular guy in the locker room, Fogg can play corner, half, and has filled in at SAM linebacker, so his versatility could make him attractive on the open market.

LB SAM HURL
Age: 27
His 2017: Started 18 games and finished second to Taylor Loffler on the team with 65 tackles, a forced fumble, sack and interception.
Synopsis: His biggest fan is his head coach, but he's become a lightning rod for criticism from fans who want the middle linebacker to be more of a thumper or playmaker along the lines of a Solomon Elimimian and less of a gap filler.

FB CHRISTOPHE NORMAND
Age: 26
His 2017: He's good at his job, even as the fullback position continues to be phased out of offences. Normand has had just 11 carries and 10 catches over the course of his three years with the Bombers.
Synopsis: The decision to dress both Andrew Harris and Timothy Flanders consistently means there is less reliance on having a player like Normand available as an in-game fill-in due to injury.

DE JAMAAL WESTERMAN
Age: 32
His 2017: Was among the CFL sack leaders when his season ended in September with an arm injury. He has 32 sacks in 47 games as a Bomber, moving him into the team's Top 10 on the all-time QB kills list.
Synopsis: Big question for the Bombers is what value does the team place on Westerman's leadership? The team ended 2017 with Tristan Okpalaugo and Jackson Jeffcoat shining at end, and has the athletic Canadian Trent Corney earning more reps as well.

DT JAKE THOMAS
Age: 27
His 2017: Tied a career high with four sacks last year and added his first career interception as part of the D-line rotation.
Synopsis: Thomas has seemingly been forever under-valued, dating back to his draft year (2012) when he was selected in the fourth round but has carved out a solid 101-game career. He'd get interest on the open market, and the Bombers do have young Canadian prospects in Faith Ekakitie and Ian Marouf under contract.

QB DAN LeFEVOUR
Age: 30
His 2017: Gave the Bombers offence an intriguing wrinkle in short-yardage situations - he rushed for six TDs - and he did lead the club to a win in frigid Calgary in his lone start in the regular season finale.
Synopsis: The Bombers will likely be tempted to sniff around the QB market in free agency for an experience No. 2 behind Matt Nichols and with Dom Davis still under contract. And, like every team, they are also constantly searching for a young pivot prospect.

WR JULIAN FEOLI-GUDINO
Age: 30
His 2017: Posted career numbers in '17 with 45 receptions for 462 yards and three touchdowns.
Synopsis: He did his job at the wide-side receiver spot, but Matt Coates started the playoff game and the Bombers did add former Minnesota Gophers star Drew Wolitarsky in a supplemental draft last year. Those factors don't help Feoli-Gudino?s bargaining power.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/13/free-agency-check-one-month/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/13/free-agency-check-one-month/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 18, 2018, 12:57:24 AM
The CFL QB Carousel
January 16th - Ed Tait

The Canadian Football League's annual quarterback carousel has been on full spin this month and earlier this week, it spat out two veteran names who will have new homes in 2018.

First, Kevin Glenn - twice a member of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers - was signed by the Edmonton Eskimos on Monday after his release from the Saskatchewan Roughriders earlier this month. And later in the day, Darian Durant was cut adrift by the Montreal Alouettes after attempts to renegotiate his contract - including a $150,000 bonus he was due on Tuesday - failed.

That transaction had barely become public when Durant's name had been linked to the Bombers, who may be looking for quarterback depth behind starter Matt Nichols. The club is said to be 'investigating the Durant situation', as it would with any quarterback with experience who hits the open market.

Nichols is the clear-cut QB1 with the Bombers, having signed an extension last winter that keeps him in blue and gold through the 2019 season. Dom Davis is also under contract while the third pivot from last season and the only other man to start a game besides Nichols, Dan LeFevour, is a pending free agent.

Durant, even with his nightmarish season in Montreal, is certain to draw interest from a few CFL teams looking to augment their QB depth chart in a veteran pivot with two Grey Cup titles to his name. What his release on Monday means is the CFL QB carousel, which has already seen James Franklin traded from Edmonton to Toronto, Zach Collaros from Hamilton to Saskatchewan - not to mention Josh Freeman's signing with the Als and the ongoing Johnny Manziel saga - has another name in the hopper.

There is always the possibility the Bombers could trade for another QB, and they will undoubtedly look at trying to find more prospects to push Josh Straughn and Philip Nelson, but if they are looking for a pivot with some CFL snaps the list of prospective free agents is as follows (oldest to youngest)?

Ricky Ray (TOR)
Age: 38
His CFL career: Future hall of famer; four-time Grey Cup champion, including 2017. Has told the Argos he will decide on whether he will play this year or retire by the end of this month.
Best Guess: He won't hit the free agent market as he will either retire or play again with the Argos. Either way, the Boatmen look set at QB after trading for and signing James Franklin.

Darian Durant
Age: 35
His CFL career: A two-time Grey Cup champion who was a fixture in Saskatchewan from 2006-2016 before his one season in Montreal last year. As bad as the Als were last year, Durant threw for 3,233 yards and had 15 TDs against 16 interceptions. Some concerns about his arm strength during the season, but he's still a tough man to bring down and may still have some game left.
Best Guess: Now that Glenn has landed in Edmonton, Durant moves to the top of the wish list of teams looking for an experienced backup. Question is: Is Durant ready for that role?

Travis Lulay, B.C.
Age: 34
His CFL career: A former CFL Most Outstanding Player (2011) who revived his career last year in replacing Jonathan Jennings before suffering a season-ending knee injury in September. He's been limited to just 25 games over the last four years due to a series of injuries, but when healthy, proved last year he is less a No. 2 pivot and more a No. 1 or 1A. Likely won't be ready to play at the start of 2018.
Best Guess: Just about everyone in the CFL expects him to remain with the Lions. In fact, his next big career move in football could be to the sidelines as a coach or to the broadcast booth as he has already proven to be an excellent analyst for Sportsnet during Grey Cup week over the past three years.

Drew Willy, MTL
Age: 31
His CFL career: He was 1-4 in his final year as a starter with the Bombers before being traded to Toronto in September of 2016. He didn't win a game with the Argos that season and lost both his starts in Montreal last year. He was The Man here from 2014-16, going 11-18 before the shine came off his star.
Best Guess: He does have experience and there is a sense that the situation in Toronto and the nightmare in Montreal last year were impossible for any quarterback to succeed. Willy's resume might mean CFL teams kick the tires on a guy who has at least won games in the past in this league.

Dan LeFevour, WPG
Age: 30
His CFL career: He's started and won in this league, including the Bombers regular season finale in frigid Calgary last November. LeFevour is a big-bodied - 6-3, 236 - dual threat who is comfortable working in a supporting role.
Best Guess: Unlikely he'll be back in Winnipeg, and at 30, might not be seen as a No. 2 elsewhere in this league.

Jacory Harris, MTL
Age: 27
His CFL career: Limited. Appeared in a few games for Hamilton in 2015, completing 13 of 23 passes for 160 yards. Released and didn't play in 2016 and then didn't throw a single pass in '17. In other words: tough to really get a gauge on whether the former Miami Hurricanes star has got game. A third-string candidate at best.
Best Guess: He likely won't be on any team?s radar as a No. 2 pivot and the Als QB depth chart is, right now at least, thin with Josh Freeman, Matthew Shiltz and Antonio Pipkin currently the three pivots signed for 2018.

Cody Fajardo, TOR
Age: 25
His CFL career: Limited numbers in his two years in Toronto, but he has completed 29 of 48 passes for 261 yards with four TDs and no picks. He's a big man at 6-5, 215 and was used in some short yardage situations with the Argos the way the Bombers utilized Dan LeFevour.
Best Guess: The James Franklin trade with Edmonton landed the Argos their future starter and he could take the first snap in 2018 depending on whether Ray decides to retire. Either way, this leaves Fajardo in a bit of limbo - the Argos also have Jeff Mathews, McLeod Bethel-Thompson and Dakota Prukop under contract - and maybe looking at other options.

Everett Golson, HAM
Age: 25
His CFL career: Has dressed for 17 games over the last two years with the Tiger-Cats after starring at both Notre Dame and Florida State. Has thrown a grand total of four passes in his career, all of them completions, but his stats are limited.
Best Guess: Hard to say. His college credentials are intriguing, but he?s still a CFL prospect likely to push for work as a No. 2 and not a guy established enough to be considered a No. 2.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/16/cfl-qb-carousel/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/16/cfl-qb-carousel/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 18, 2018, 01:21:23 AM
Danny McManus - Breaking Down Free Agent Camps
January 17th - Ed Tait

There are many, many mornings when Danny McManus wakes up, stares at the hotel ceiling while wiping the sleep from his eyes, and wonders out loud:

"Just where the heck am I again?"

Such is the life of a Canadian Football League scout like McManus, the hall-of-fame quarterback who now does his talent sleuthing for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers as their Assistant GM/Director of U.S. Scouting. Yes, the search for new talent means McManus and the Bombers' scouting staff cover miles upon miles of territory down south while trying to unearth new talent like the players discovered last year at free agent camps in Brian Walker, Brandon Alexander and Jovan Santos-Knox.

Bluebombers.com caught up with McManus last week during a particularly crazy stretch of travel and in advance of the first Bombers' free agent camp of the winter in Pensacola, FL on Saturday (Ted Goveia, the Bombers' Assistant GM/Director of Player Personnel will be at a camp at Costa Mesa, CA on Sunday).

What follows is the first of two stories outlining how the free agent camp process works, followed by the experience Santos-Knox had last year before signing with the club.

ON THE ROAD AGAIN..

"Right now I'm driving home, washing some clothes, and then heading back out," began McManus, the sound of the Florida highway rolling by in the background. "Ted and I were in Dallas for the College Gridiron Showcase. Then I'm in Daytona for the Tropical Bowl (held last Sunday), then it's wash the clothes again before the East-West Shrine Game, followed by the Senior Bowl.

"And then we've got the four free agent camps in January."

In addition to the camps in Pensacola and Costa Mesa this coming weekend (details here) the Bombers will be staging events in Jackson, MS and Atlanta, GA next weekend. The club will hold up to 10 more camps right through April when training camp rosters begin to solidify.

And the goal is simple: To continue to stockpile the Bombers' roster with American talent and in the process, hopefuly find the next Milt Stegall, Charles Roberts, Chris Matthews or Maurice Leggett.

"You're looking at guys who were passed over or were maybe at small schools and didn't get a chance to show anything at their pro days," McManus explained. "It could be a guy who was in the NFL and got injured and is looking to get back into the game after taking some time off to recover. Maybe it's a guy we liked at NFL camps who got off the board a little bit and we want to have another chance to see him again.

"You never know why a guy is not playing football, but you want to give him every chance to show that he can play and provide him with the right opportunity."

The Bombers have held some camps where as few as 10 players show up, others where the number of prospects totals up to 70. They will send out camp information to all the prospects they may have seen or were unable to get to within the last year, and also rely on their contacts in football and agents to get the message out to their players. McManus and Goveia also lean on the Bombers' social media accounts to make sure the camp details reach as many prospects as possible.

FOR ONE BEN FRANKLIN...


Players reserve their camp spots in advance by contacting McManus or Goveia and then need only show up on shorts and cleats - the workouts do not include hitting - and plunk down $100 for the camp.

McManus, who began his playing career with the Bombers and spent 17 years in the CFL pitching footballs before retiring, also works his network to make sure at least one quarterback is in camp.

"Otherwise," he added with a chuckle, "you know who will be throwing: It'll be me. And I was good once, but I'm not good any more. You've got to have good quarterbacks to have a good workout.

A Bombers free agent camp will feature the standard testing drills like a player's time over 40 yards and short shuttle before some positional drills. The camp ends with one-on-one sessions.

"You get all kinds of guys," said McManus. "You get guys who haven't played in five years but heard about the camp and want to come out and see if they can take one more shot at glory. A couple years ago in Los Angeles we had a father and his son come out. The son didn't want to do it, but the dad said, 'I"ll do it with ya' and they both came out.

"But once they get to the camp Ted and I want to make sure they get a very good three-hour workout. We don't want anybody wandering away from the workout saying, 'They didn't take a look at me.' We enjoy it. We enjoy coaching the guys up. We enjoy the PR part of talking up the Canadian Football League and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. We also invite alumni living in the area to come out to the workout and help us. In Atlanta, for example, James West and Milt Stegall will come out. It's good for those guys, too."

The Bombers will work out hundreds of prospects during their free agent camps and in some cases, will immediately put a player on their negotiation list - meaning they would own his CFL rights - with a quick call to CFL headquarters before the camp is even completed. Follow-up legwork after a camp would include watching more film of prospects or requesting full game tapes before the club's coaches are involved to study the tape and provide their evaluations.

After that, players who have stood out will be offered a contract and invited to mini-camp, with the staff ensuring they have a proper passport and paperwork to cross into Canada.

"At that point," McManus explains, "the player really has his shot to impress us."

POPPING OFF THE PAGE...

The Bombers found Walker, Alexander and Santos-Knox - all of whom were starters on defence last season - at their camps last winter, along with former Saskatchewan Roughriders receiver Ryan Lankford. And, much the same way free agent camp legends like Cameron Wake, Delvin Breaux, and Leggett did before them, the keys to popping off the page for talent evaluators is simple.

"Show something early," McManus said. "Whether it's your 40 time or your short shuttle... do something that gets Ted and I excited or has the guys helping us come over and say, 'You need to take a look at this kid because he did this over here' Then in your positional drills it's important just to be able to do what is asked of you. Can you listen? Can you be coached? We put them in some difficult situations to see how they react.

"Then we finish the workout with one-on-ones to see the competition. Do they rise up and compete or do they sit at the back at the line and not want to compete and try and rest on their (testing) numbers?

"Brian Walker was a guy who really popped off the page at a camp last year. In his case, he kept jumping up the line and wanted to get more reps. That's what I would advise: don't be a coward or sit at the back because then you're cutting yourself. Jump up there and show what you've got. If you have four good reps and one bad rep, we're probably going to remember at least two or three of the good ones and maybe forget about the bad one."

THE $100 GUARANTEE...

As much as the search for new talent can be exhausting - if this is Saturday, I must be in Biloxi - it's what bird-dogs like McManus and Goveia call their passion.

"Ted and I, we both love the chase," McManus said. "We love the chase of trying to find a player. The guys that get drafted in the NFL and CFL, that's easy because they can't go anywhere. But the player that everybody had a shot at and was passed over and comes and plays for us... those are the guys that make it worthwhile."

And when a player they find at a camp signs a contract and makes the team, it comes with a promise from the club: the $100 camp entry fee is handed back to them.

"There's nothing I like more than going up to a guy during camp or in the season and handing him $100," McManus said. "Usually the reaction is, 'What's this for?' We're not there for the money. We're there to find players that can help us."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/17/danny-mcmanus-breaking-free-agent-camps/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/17/danny-mcmanus-breaking-free-agent-camps/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 19, 2018, 03:52:14 AM
January 18, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed quarterbacks Josh Straughan and Philip Nelson, defensive linemen Sam Montgomery and Chris Casher, defensive back Zavian Bingham, receiver Garry Brown and running back Zach Bauman.  All players are internationals, and spent time with the Bombers last season on the club's practice roster.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/18/bombers-add-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/18/bombers-add-roster/)

Josh Straughan    added to PR Oct 4 2017, released from PR Oct 24 2017
Philip Nelson        added to PR Oct 24 2017, released from PR Nov 2 2017
Sam Montgomery  added to PR Oct 17 2017, released from PR Nov 2 2017
Chris Casher        added to PR Oct 24 2017, released from PR Nov 2 2017
Zavian Bingham    added to PR Sept 28 2017, released from PR Oct 3 2017
Garry Brown         added to PR Sept 26 2017, released from PR Nov 2 2017
Zach Bauman       added to PR Oct 17 2017.released from PR Nov 13 2017


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blueraid on January 19, 2018, 05:33:24 PM
Good move to get Chris Randall to re-up for 2 years today...One important cog in the fold


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 19, 2018, 05:56:39 PM
Good move to get Chris Randall to re-up for 2 years today...One important cog in the fold

Randle


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blueraid on January 19, 2018, 08:19:55 PM
Right....that's Chris Randle....and that's the right handle ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 20, 2018, 08:06:06 AM
January 23, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with international cornerback Chris Randle on a two-year contract. Randle was scheduled to be a free agent next month.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/19/bombers-agree-terms-cfl-all-star-cornerback-chris-randle/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/19/bombers-agree-terms-cfl-all-star-cornerback-chris-randle/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 1chad on January 20, 2018, 12:02:58 PM
Good signing. I think the Bombers have been most active in resigning their FAs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 20, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
BOND, Travis    I    OL    North Carolina    
DENMARK, Clarence    I    WR    Arkansas Monticello    
FEOLI GUDINO, Julian    N    WR    Laval    
FOGG, Kevin    I    DB    Liberty    
HEATH, TJ    I    DB    Jacksonville State    
HURL, Sam    N    LB    Calgary    
KNOX, Kyle    I    LB    Fresno State    
LEFEVOUR, Dan    I    QB    Central Michigan    
LEGGETT, Maurice    I    DB    Valdosta State    
NORMAND, Christophe    N    FB    Laval
THOMAS, Jake    N    DL    Acadia    

WESTERMAN, Jamaal    N    DL    Rutgers    


Players we really should sign

Sign at the right price, but not at the expense of these players

Fogg I was on the fence on, but it looks like they are bringing in PR/KR guys to compete, so it moved him from "must sign" to "would be nice".  Plus, the team would save a lot of money on Birthday Cake...

Only 12 potential free agents left on the list, well done Mr. Walters



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on January 20, 2018, 01:13:01 PM
BOND, Travis    I    OL    North Carolina    
DENMARK, Clarence    I    WR    Arkansas Monticello    
FEOLI GUDINO, Julian    N    WR    Laval    
FOGG, Kevin    I    DB    Liberty    
HEATH, TJ    I    DB    Jacksonville State    
HURL, Sam    N    LB    Calgary    
KNOX, Kyle    I    LB    Fresno State    
LEFEVOUR, Dan    I    QB    Central Michigan    
LEGGETT, Maurice    I    DB    Valdosta State    
NORMAND, Christophe    N    FB    Laval
THOMAS, Jake    N    DL    Acadia    

WESTERMAN, Jamaal    N    DL    Rutgers    


Players we really should sign

Sign at the right price, but not at the expense of these players

Only 12 potential free agents left on the list, well done Mr. Walters
Replace Thomas with Westerman and I agree.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 20, 2018, 01:15:37 PM
Replace Thomas with Westerman and I agree.

My logic for not flipping them is Thomas can stll help with ratio and SMS savings can allow other players to be signed.  If Westerman comes cheap, by all means, but if signing him means losing Leggett, or even Heath, then no.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on January 20, 2018, 02:04:21 PM
My logic for not flipping them is Thomas can stll help with ratio and SMS savings can allow other players to be signed.  If Westerman comes cheap, by all means, but if signing him means losing Leggett, or even Heath, then no.

Many posters have explained why this is a horrible idea but you keep beating the Thomas is a must sign.

No he's not. He's an ok to sign if HIS price is affordable once we sign the real MUST sign players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 21, 2018, 12:10:18 PM
January 20, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with veteran quarterback Darian Durant on a one-year contract.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/20/bombers-agree-to-terms-with-quarterback-darian-durant/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/20/bombers-agree-to-terms-with-quarterback-darian-durant/)

Durant fills veteran void behind Nichols
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/20/durant-fills-veteran-void-behind-nichols/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/20/durant-fills-veteran-void-behind-nichols/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 21, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
Current Roster:
QBs                 5
Nationals         21
Internationals   30

Pending FAs     12


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on January 22, 2018, 02:21:19 PM
My logic for not flipping them is Thomas can stll help with ratio and SMS savings can allow other players to be signed.  If Westerman comes cheap, by all means, but if signing him means losing Leggett, or even Heath, then no.

I'd rather lose Heath and keep Westerman, Westerman although sometimes takes the odd stupid penalty; cleaned up his act last year on those "stupid" penalties yet still delivered tons of pressure.  With him in the line up it helps the over all back field by rushing the QB or keeping the QB slightly off his game.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 22, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
I'd rather lose Heath and keep Westerman, Westerman although sometimes takes the odd stupid penalty; cleaned up his act last year on those "stupid" penalties yet still delivered tons of pressure.  With him in the line up it helps the over all back field by rushing the QB or keeping the QB slightly off his game.

I don't think Westerman is necessarily any better than Okpo or Westerman but the effect he has on the ratio is HUGE.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 22, 2018, 03:59:17 PM
I don't think Westerman is necessarily any better than Okpo or Westerman but the effect he has on the ratio is HUGE.

Is it though?  Are we going to "start" 2 Nats on the DLine if Westerman is on the roster?  Or just one?  Unless we are starting 2, then he doesn't really affect the ratio, because we will probably have one of Corney, Ekakitie, Marouf or Thomas (should he sign here) rotating in anyways.

3 OL
1 WR
1 RB
1 FS
1 DL

There's our starting 7. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 22, 2018, 04:35:33 PM
My logic for not flipping them is Thomas can stll help with ratio and SMS savings can allow other players to be signed.  If Westerman comes cheap, by all means, but if signing him means losing Leggett, or even Heath, then no.

Re-signing Thomas depends somewhat on how far along Ekakitie has come, if he's ready to go Thomas becomes more dispensable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on January 22, 2018, 05:04:16 PM
Is it though?  Are we going to "start" 2 Nats on the DLine if Westerman is on the roster?  Or just one?  Unless we are starting 2, then he doesn't really affect the ratio, because we will probably have one of Corney, Ekakitie, Marouf or Thomas (should he sign here) rotating in anyways.

3 OL
1 WR
1 RB
1 FS
1 DL

There's our starting 7. 

I am not going to go around the mulberry bush with you on how valuable Westerman would be. You just don't understand the concept, or are completely oblivious too how much of a downgrade Thomas/Ekakitie is to Poop or Nevis. You keep believing that Jake Thomas or Corney represent a starter in our lineup. The rest of us will discuss reality while you discuss fantasy.

Optimally, our DL would have Westerman/Poop/Nevis/Jeffcoat taking 80% of the reps with Corney and Thomas rotating in for about 20% to keep them fresh. If the main guys could play 100% without needing rest that would be even more optimal but impossible. You seem to think that Corney and Thomas are ready to take on 50% of the reps and you are wrong. Our defence would suffer.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on January 22, 2018, 06:01:52 PM
I am not going to go around the mulberry bush with you on how valuable Westerman would be. You just don't understand the concept, or are completely oblivious too how much of a downgrade Thomas/Ekakitie is to Poop or Nevis. You keep believing that Jake Thomas or Corney represent a starter in our lineup. The rest of us will discuss reality while you discuss fantasy.

Optimally, our DL would have Westerman/Poop/Nevis/Jeffcoat taking 80% of the reps with Corney and Thomas rotating in for about 20% to keep them fresh. If the main guys could play 100% without needing rest that would be even more optimal but impossible. You seem to think that Corney and Thomas are ready to take on 50% of the reps and you are wrong. Our defence would suffer.

I think 80% reps for our front 4 is optomistic.  But lets go with that assumption.

So, if we field Jeffcoat/Nevis/Poop/Oko, and each fields 80% of the snaps, that leaves 20% x 4 snaps to be taken by a Nat backup.  Almost a full "starters" worth.

If we use a more realistic number of 75%, then that makes a full "starters" worth of snaps for the Nat backups.  Without any of them "starting".  And we do have other Nats that can rotate in if we actually want Jeffcoat/Nevis/Poop/Oko on the field together.

I'm not saying that Westerman would not be a welcome member of the team.   He definitely would be.  It would make ratio management easier, sure.  But if his SMS is too high, or his injury rehab in question, or contract length too long, I'm just suggesting his loss is not tragic to our Ratio. 

SMS is going to be even more of a concern this year, with actual QB's to pay, so anywhere it can be trimmed...  and I can see Westerman as an elite Nat that someone will be willing to roll out cash for. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 22, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
I am not going to go around the mulberry bush with you on how valuable Westerman would be. You just don't understand the concept, or are completely oblivious too how much of a downgrade Thomas/Ekakitie is to Poop or Nevis. You keep believing that Jake Thomas or Corney represent a starter in our lineup. The rest of us will discuss reality while you discuss fantasy.

Optimally, our DL would have Westerman/Poop/Nevis/Jeffcoat taking 80% of the reps with Corney and Thomas rotating in for about 20% to keep them fresh. If the main guys could play 100% without needing rest that would be even more optimal but impossible. You seem to think that Corney and Thomas are ready to take on 50% of the reps and you are wrong. Our defence would suffer.

I don't believe Nevis and Poop are on the field together very often but that is mostly due to the ratio.  Also I thought Walters remarked last spring that Thomas was on the field for 50% of the snaps subbing with Cummings and Shologan.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on January 23, 2018, 09:29:14 PM
HOPEFULLY we can adjust that ratio so that those two can be on the field together for the majority of their reps..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on January 23, 2018, 09:41:47 PM
HOPEFULLY we can adjust that ratio so that those two can be on the field together for the majority of their reps..
Yep, that'd be a pretty dominant front four with Okpalaugo, Nevis, Poop and Jeffcoat.  Then sprinkle in some Ekakitie and Corney. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 24, 2018, 10:54:09 PM
Durant a great addition, but Bombers still have work to do
http://3downnation.com/2018/01/21/durant-great-addition-bombers-still-work/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/01/21/durant-great-addition-bombers-still-work/)

(https://i1.wp.com/3downnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Bomber-Depth-2018.jpg?resize=904%2C616)



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on January 24, 2018, 10:57:12 PM
January 24, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed National defensive back Brendan Morgan, International defensive back Steven Clarke, and national receiver Tylor Henry.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/24/bomber-add-three-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/24/bomber-add-three-roster/)

Current Roster:
QBs                 5
Nationals         23
Internationals   31

Pending FAs     12


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 02, 2018, 12:21:09 PM
February 1, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Anthony Gaitor. Gaitor has spent some of the past two seasons with the BC Lions while also signing an agreement with the New Orleans Saints following the 2016 season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/01/bombers-sign-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/01/bombers-sign-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/)

WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers  14 hours ago
The team has released quarterback Dom Davis.

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC   14 hours ago
The #Bombers release QB Dom Davis. Signing of Darian Durant fills No 2 spot; club high on prospects Philip Nelson and Josh Straughan


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 07, 2018, 12:08:57 PM
February 6, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed pending free agent defensive back Maurice Leggett to a one-year contract.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/bombers-re-sign-maurice-leggett/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/bombers-re-sign-maurice-leggett/)

MAURICE LEGGETT  RE-SIGNS WITH BLUE BOMBERS
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/maurice-leggett-re-signs-with-blue-bombers/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/maurice-leggett-re-signs-with-blue-bombers/)

"EVERYONE KNOWS I LOVE WINNIPEG."  MOE RIGHT AT HOME
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/everyone-knows-love-winnipeg-moe-right-home/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/everyone-knows-love-winnipeg-moe-right-home/)

BOMBERS INSIDER  MAURICE LEGGETT & ED TAIT
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/bombers-insider-maurice-leggett-ed-tait/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/06/bombers-insider-maurice-leggett-ed-tait/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 07, 2018, 06:25:32 PM
February 1, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Anthony Gaitor. Gaitor has spent some of the past two seasons with the BC Lions while also signing an agreement with the New Orleans Saints following the 2016 season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/01/bombers-sign-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/01/bombers-sign-defensive-back-anthony-gaitor/)

WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers  14 hours ago
The team has released quarterback Dom Davis.

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC   14 hours ago
The #Bombers release QB Dom Davis. Signing of Darian Durant fills No 2 spot; club high on prospects Philip Nelson and Josh Straughan

I like Straughan, definitely think he'd be worth keeping around... good arm and right attitude... he could be that future guy for someone, probably too long of a sit to work out here for him...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 11, 2018, 02:06:26 AM
February 9, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed free agent receiver Adarius Bowman to a one-year contract.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/bombers-sign-three-time-cfl-star-receiver-adarius-bowman/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/bombers-sign-three-time-cfl-star-receiver-adarius-bowman/)

ADARIUS BOWMAN - INTRODUCTORY PRESS CONFERENCE
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/adarius-bowman-introductory-press-conference/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/adarius-bowman-introductory-press-conference/)

ADARIUS BOWMAN - BACK HOME
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/adarius-bowman-back-home/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/adarius-bowman-back-home/)


How and why Adarius Bowman landed with the Bombers

Sources say there were multiple teams in the mix for star receiver Adarius Bowman, who ultimately signed a one, year deal with the Bombers in the $140,000 range.

The Riders made a substantial offer and were hot on him early while the Lions weren't willing to dedicate the cap space to another receiver. The Argos made a late push but Montreal was never really a consideration due to their unproven quarterbacking situation.
http://3downnation.com/2018/02/09/why-adarius-bowman-landed-in-the-peg/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/02/09/why-adarius-bowman-landed-in-the-peg/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 11, 2018, 02:38:03 AM
GM Kyle Walters - Approaching Free Agency
by Ed Tait

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have already made a pre-CFL free agency splash by adding names like Adarius Bowman and Darian Durant to address areas of needs.

And what happens next, both in advance of the opening of the annual talent grab on Tuesday and then when the market opens, should make for some interesting drama in Bomberland.

GM Kyle Walters confirmed in his annual pre-free agency address on Friday that offensive lineman Travis Bond, receiver Clarence Denmark and quarterback Dan LeFevour have all been told they will officially hit the market on Tuesday without an offer from the club.

Bond, a CFL all-star in 2016, has been caught in the club's decision to move to playing three Canadians on the O-line; the team is moving on from Denmark, even for as valuable as he has been to the franchise, while the signing of Durant led to the decision to move on from both Dom Davis, who was released, and LeFevour.

That leaves the Bombers with eight other pending free agents heading into next week: defensive backs T.J. Heath and Kevin Fogg, defensive linemen Jamaal Westerman and Jake Thomas, receiver Julian Feoli-Gudino, fullback Christophe Normand and linebackers Kyle Knox and Sam Hurl.

Walters spoke with the media for almost 30 minutes on Friday to touch on a number of free agent related subjects, ranging from the addition of Bowman, to the impact of one-year contracts on the market, to the move toward teams loading up on offence.

Here are some of the highlights of Walters' address:

On whether the Bombers might still be interested in adding receiver help now that Bowman has been brought on board:


"I guess we're looking at everything. The free agent period now... you go through scenarios the way you think they're going to unfold and then you have to be able to react. If you wanted to spend some money here and it does't go that way, where are you going to upgrade? We'll see.

It's a vague answer, but we're looking to upgrade across the board. There's certainly a domino effect. If something on the defensive side of the ball doesn't go the way you want it, can we upgrade another spot on the offence? Is there another receiver available that you might be able to upgrade, then we'll certainly explore those options as well. There are a lot of moving parts heading into free agency. There's a give and take offensively and defensively as to what you can add and what you can spend."

On where negotiations stand with the other pending free agents aside from Bond, Denmark and LeFevour:

"There are still a few on this page which are green spots, which are free agents that we're trying to sort out. We have until Tuesday to try and sort things out. I'm not going to get into specifics of if (contract talks) are going good or bad. It's a long ongoing process and there are tons of moving parts. Certainly, when we go in on Adarius like we have you reshuffle the salary cap and the domino effect of doing each individual move... you go through multiple scenarios if one of those players goes go to market, what's our plan? You go through all of this stuff. Now it's wait and see how everything unfolds."

On whether the re-signing of Ian Wild and the emergence of Jovan Santos-Knox late last season will stop the club from chasing a linebacker in free agency:

"We look at making the roster the best we can within the salary cap parameters. Jovan had a great year last year once he got on the field and played the (weak-side) linebacker spot and in college played (middle). Ian has proven he can play either spot. We also like a couple of young guys that finished the year on the practice roster.

"Our linebacker corps, albeit not the big-name guys, we think they're young and we think they're athletic. Ian in there provides some flexibility and eases our mind a bit in that he can play either position very well. There are other spots on our roster, when you look at the priorities, in regards to what it's going to cost to fill various holes and who we have in house that we think can do it currently under contract."

On what areas the club might be targeting in free agency:

"I made the comment to Mike (O'Shea) and Ted (Goveia, Assistant GM), Ryan (Rigmaiden, Director of College Scouting) and Danny (McManus, Assistant GM) that this has certainly been the most diverse opinions when we all get together, as to how we see things.

"I've said this before back when I took over and we headed to free agency, we could all sit here and everybody would know the holes on the roster and what obviously needed to be fixed. It didn't take a lot of thought or time when we'd all get together. We'd all say 'We need to fix this, this and this...' As you get closer to a Grey Cup calibre team, which I believe we are getting towards where we've transitioned to a being a solid football team now, it's about getting from a solid football team to a championship football team. There are less roster moves to be made, but they're more scrutinized because there are less of them.

"It's been an interesting couple of months with the group of us trying to figure out exactly what the best plan of attack is to get our roster from being solid to being championship, which I think is the toughest part in all of sports, to get over that hump."

On balancing the temptation to fill holes via free agency, given the number of players available because of the recent trend toward one-year contracts, versus the new talent the scouting department might find:

"Any position where there are a high number of (free agents) I think the top guys, like every year, are going to go out and get their money early. What you're going to see is the second or third day, which you see every year, certain positions come down to earth. That's where the agents start managing expectations for their clients, unfortunately.

"That's going to be an interesting dynamic, those first couple of days, where the top-end guys get their money early. And then teams are going to have to evaluate how much they have to spend. I do believe there will be some solid veteran players maybe two-three days into free agency going, 'Hmmm... that didn't quite go as I thought it might and maybe we get some value with some veteran players at a more cost-effective rate.

"The first 24 hours will be very interesting, and then you take a deep breath and see what the landscape looks like still."
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/gm-kyle-walters-approaching-free-agency/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/gm-kyle-walters-approaching-free-agency/)

Kyle Walters - Free Agency Statement (Video)
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/kyle-walters-free-agency-statement/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/09/kyle-walters-free-agency-statement/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on February 12, 2018, 05:36:27 AM
I say pay Medlock a lot more money.  He deserved every penny he got.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 12, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
I say pay Medlock a lot more money.  He deserved every penny he got.
Medlock already re-signed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Chris1982 on February 12, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
Normand has been pretty solid the last couple of years.... going to re-sign him or roll with Miller and Rush??


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 12, 2018, 11:04:32 AM
Normand has been pretty solid the last couple of years.... going to re-sign him or roll with Miller and Rush??

I?m a Normand fan too but it seems the Bombers may be moving on. I could see him signing with Montreal.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2018, 11:30:26 AM
Normand has been pretty solid the last couple of years.... going to re-sign him or roll with Miller and Rush??
roll with Miller, whom I love and Rush.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 12, 2018, 11:43:26 AM
roll with Miller, whom I love and Rush.
Miller is a great special teams guy, but seems a little undersized as a fullback - he's listed at 6'0" 215 pounds.  Rush makes some sense though. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on February 12, 2018, 11:45:50 AM
Miller played great in Edmonton in their max protection package. He provides zero threat in the backfield though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2018, 02:00:35 AM
Bombers QB Dan LeFevour set to retire from football

Winnipeg Blue Bombers quarterback Dan LeFevour is retiring, per sources.

The 30-year-old LeFevour, who was set to become a free agent in February, has elected to begin his post-football career in lieu of seeking another contract.

http://3downnation.com/2018/02/10/bombers-qb-dan-lefevour-set-retire-football/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/02/10/bombers-qb-dan-lefevour-set-retire-football/)

Dan LeFevour  @DanLeFevour13
I want to give a big thank you to everyone who has supported me in the pursuit of chasing my childhood dream!  It's been a heck of a ride.  But there is a time and a place for everything.  It's time for my family and I to move on to the next chapter
8:47 PM - Feb 10, 2018


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2018, 02:05:39 AM
February 12, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has re-signed international defensive back Kevin Fogg. Fogg was scheduled to hit free agency tomorrow.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/12/bombers-re-sign-defensive-back-kevin-fogg/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/12/bombers-re-sign-defensive-back-kevin-fogg/)

WPG Blue Bombers  @Wpg_BlueBombers  6 hours ago
The team has re-signed defensive back @FoggWith2Gz  to a one-year contract.
https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/963150838456709125 (https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/963150838456709125)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2018, 02:24:55 AM
Current Roster:
QBs                 4
Nationals         24
Internationals   35

Pending FAs     9

Chris Normand          FB   N 
Clarence Denmark     WR   I 
Julian Feoli-Gudino    WR   N   
Travis Bond             OL    I   
Jake  Thomas           DT  N 
Jamaal Westerman    DL   N 
Kyle Knox                LB    I   
Sam Hurl                 LB   N   
TJ Heath                 DB   I   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 13, 2018, 02:29:41 AM
John Hodge   @JohnDHodge   6 hours ago
Here's how I see the #Bombers' depth chart heading into tomorrow's free agent frenzy. #CFLFA #CFL

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV3W5yVVMAApLNM.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue72 on February 13, 2018, 01:31:35 PM
I hope Walters brings in a couple more LBers, JSK is real good at WIL but unproven at MLB in the CFL. Wild is a good LB but is he still a starter and will he make it a whole season. Leggett is a great Sam LB but will he be able to start and finish the season with the injury that he had last year. As of right now JSK at Will with Wild backing him up and playing ST. The rest of our LBers are either unproven or basically STers. As for backups at MLB we would have JSK, Wild and Thomas Miles if needed.

As for returners it would be nice to pick up Finch to replace Langford, also Finch is the same size as Dressler and Banks from Hammy. So he could return all kicks plus either back up Dressler or backup Harris. This way we wouldn't need Langford as we are bringing in a lot of good receivers and if Fogg gets beat out as a HB then that could be 2 salaries we could save and 2 spots on the roster with just 1 player. One of our backup RB's is Bauman and he is the same height as Finch but is 25 lbs heavier and was never used.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 13, 2018, 01:34:56 PM
I hope Walters brings in a couple more LBers, JSK is real good at WIL but unproven at MLB in the CFL. Wild is a good LB but is he still a starter and will he make it a whole season. Leggett is a great Sam LB but will he be able to start and finish the season with the injury that he had last year. As of right now JSK at Will with Wild backing him up and playing ST. The rest of our LBers are either unproven or basically STers. As for backups at MLB we would have JSK, Wild and Thomas Miles if needed.

As for returners it would be nice to pick up Finch to replace Langford, also Finch is the same size as Dressler and Banks from Hammy. So he could return all kicks plus either back up Dressler or backup Harris. This way we wouldn't need Langford as we are bringing in a lot of good receivers and if Fogg gets beat out as a HB then that could be 2 salaries we could save and 2 spots on the roster with just 1 player. One of our backup RB's is Bauman and he is the same height as Finch but is 25 lbs heavier and was never used.
Personally I don?t see us going after Finch. I think we?ve got a number of returners already on the roster. You mentioned Finch backing up Dressler...has he ever be used as a receiver?  I though he was mostly an RB.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on February 13, 2018, 01:36:27 PM
I think some of us are going to be disappointed today, I don't see us going after any real marquee players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
Personally I don?t see us going after Finch. I think we?ve got a number of returners already on the roster. You mentioned Finch backing up Dressler...has he ever be used as a receiver?  I though he was mostly an RB.

Finch re-signed with the Stamps.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 14, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
February 13, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed National receiver Nic Demski.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-winnipeg-born-receiver-nic-demski/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-winnipeg-born-receiver-nic-demski/)

Justin Dunk  @JDunk12
#Bombers ink Canadian receiver and returner Nic Demski for around $150,000 - $35,000 signing bonus - for the 2018 season http://3downnation.com/2018/02/13/canadian-receiver-returner-nic-demski-heads-winnipeg/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/02/13/canadian-receiver-returner-nic-demski-heads-winnipeg/) ... #Winnipeg #Saskatchewan #Riders #YQR #CFL
https://twitter.com/JDunk12/status/963494142318993433 (https://twitter.com/JDunk12/status/963494142318993433)

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton 19 hours ago
The Winnipeg Blue #Bombers ink Winnipeg native and former Manitoba Bison, WR Nic Demski to a one-year deal. Demski spent the last three years in Saskatchewan after being drafted 6th overall in the 2015 #CFL Draft. #wfp
https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/963473169888800768 (https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/963473169888800768)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 14, 2018, 12:38:07 PM
February 13, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed national running back Kienan LaFrance to a one-year contract. The Winnipeg-born, University of Manitoba Bisons product spent last season with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-winnipeg-born-running-back-kienan-lafrance/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-winnipeg-born-running-back-kienan-lafrance/)

Bombers sign former Riders Canadian RB Kienan LaFrance
http://3downnation.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-former-riders-canadian-rb-kienan-lafrance/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-former-riders-canadian-rb-kienan-lafrance/)

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton   18 hours ago
The one-year deal for Kienan LaFrance is said to be around 80K. Nice little insurance plan behind @andrewharris33. Putting WIN back in Winnipeg for an offence that looks even better than 2017. #wfp
https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/963500078823550976 (https://twitter.com/jeffkhamilton/status/963500078823550976)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 14, 2018, 12:43:04 PM
February 13, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international defensive back Chandler Fenner. Fenner has spent the past two seasons with the BC Lions.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-defensive-back-chandler-fenner/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-defensive-back-chandler-fenner/)

Justin Dunk   @JDunk12   15 hours ago
#Bombers DB Chandler Fenner inked a two-year pact worth around $130,000 per season with #Winnipeg http://3downnation.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-db-chandler-fenner/  (http://3downnation.com/2018/02/13/bombers-sign-db-chandler-fenner/) ... #BCLions #CFL
https://twitter.com/JDunk12/status/963548341509525509 (https://twitter.com/JDunk12/status/963548341509525509)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 14, 2018, 12:46:34 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming  21 hours ago
Here's how the #Bombers look heading into #CFLFA today. Westerman, Heath, Thomas, and Bond all hit the open market.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV7iN2fUQAAIdW9.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 15, 2018, 12:55:00 PM
February 14, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed national receiver Mitchell Baines to a two-year contract.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/14/bombers-sign-receiver-mitchell-baines/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/14/bombers-sign-receiver-mitchell-baines/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 17, 2018, 11:08:14 PM
February 16, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive end Craig Roh.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/16/bombers-sign-defensive-end-craig-roh/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/16/bombers-sign-defensive-end-craig-roh/)

Darren Cameron   @Darren_Cameron    Feb 16
Roh signs a two-year deal with the team. #Bombers
https://twitter.com/Darren_Cameron/status/964521141015543808 (https://twitter.com/Darren_Cameron/status/964521141015543808)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 18, 2018, 10:43:39 PM
I think the Durant signing will become one of the biggest stories of the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on February 18, 2018, 10:50:06 PM
I think the Durant signing will become one of the biggest stories of the season.
Questionable


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 18, 2018, 10:53:54 PM
Questionable

As is anything ever posted here lol.........it's just that having a grey cup winning QB as your back up can't help but bring up some serious speculation and/or drama to the season......


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on February 19, 2018, 06:03:01 AM
As is anything ever posted here lol.........it's just that having a grey cup winning QB as your back up can't help but bring up some serious speculation and/or drama to the season......
Only if Nichols plays bad enough to create a QB controversy


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 19, 2018, 03:38:30 PM
Only if Nichols plays bad enough to create a QB controversy

Or Nichols gets even a minor injury and Durant comes in and has some immediate chemistry with his receivers and the long pass.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on February 19, 2018, 03:46:12 PM
Or Nichols gets even a minor injury and Durant comes in and has some immediate chemistry with his receivers and the long pass.

Durant is a veteran QB and we expect him to have chemistry with receivers and create results. We expect zero controversy as a result. Nichols is our QB now and in the future. Durant is here for 2018 as depth.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on February 19, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
As is anything ever posted here lol.........it's just that having a grey cup winning QB as your back up can't help but bring up some serious speculation and/or drama to the season......
You're the only one constantly speculating about Nichols ability.......


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Darwinismyhomeboy on February 19, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
You're the only one constantly speculating about Nichols ability........

I don't see how having Durant as the backup will bring any 'drama' either.  He is clearly the old, experienced backup that is there for an emergency.  Nichols is our QB.  Full Stop.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on February 19, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
Or Nichols gets even a minor injury and Durant comes in and has some immediate chemistry with his receivers and the long pass.
With your weird logic, you probably want Nick Foles over Carson Wentz


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 19, 2018, 05:37:18 PM
You're the only one constantly speculating about Nichols ability.......

Just this week a couple other posters were questioning in another thread about Nichols long ball accuracy. So it's not just me.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 19, 2018, 08:31:03 PM
With your weird logic, you probably want Nick Foles over Carson Wentz

I don't know... won the Eagles a Super Bowl over what is arguably the best QB of modern times?  Wentz can make the argument that he could have done the same and done it better though...  But look at it this way, what if Wentz comes out next year and loses the first 2 games of the season...  Is there a controversy then?  food for thought...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 19, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
but given the make up of this team, there will be no QB controversy, unless we were to have come crazy losing streak not attributed to injuries. And there is probably 2 chances of that, slim and none...

otherwise, Durant will not get a long enough opportunity to try and win the job. Because even if Nichols were to sit for 3 games due to injury, once healed he'll be inserted right back in the line up regardless of the win loss record during the span.

Bottom line, it's Nichols job.  Period...  And rightly so, he's earned the opportunity, and for now away, it's his team...

But I'm not going to lie, I'd like to see how they stack against each other, say, during the same game one plays one half and the other get the other half...  not that it would ever happen but I am curious if and how the dynamics would change, if at all...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 19, 2018, 08:59:04 PM
Durant will get some reps on offense, particularly during tempo like Lefevour did.  Durant might get a few more than Lefevour did, because he can actually throw the ball. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 19, 2018, 09:17:25 PM
Durant will get some reps on offense, particularly during temp like Lefevour did.  Durant might get a few more than Lefevour did, because he can actually throw the ball. 

but to think that there is a chance that Durant can come in here and win the job, just not possible... no matter how good he may look in camp...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 19, 2018, 09:19:53 PM
but to think that there is a chance that Durant can come in here and win the job, just not possible... no matter how good he may look in camp...
Yes I agree 100%.  This is Matt Nichols team. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 21, 2018, 03:15:32 AM
February 20 , 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Tevin Homer and International receiver Corey Washington.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/20/bombers-add-homer-washington/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/20/bombers-add-homer-washington/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 21, 2018, 03:25:18 AM
Current Roster:
QBs                 4
Nationals         27
Internationals   39


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: ModAdmin on February 25, 2018, 02:22:36 AM
Paul LaPolice Retweeted
Tony Racioppi
‏ @Tonyrazz03
3h3 hours ago

Pro Qb Phil Nelson of the CFLS Winnipeg Blue Bombers working 3 Quick with Dovetail drop to make a straight, balanced throw to the left with anticipation, accuracy and velocity. Phil is going to be a great player in the CFL. He is the complete QB. @TEST_Football @Wpg_BlueBombers

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/967559993380818945 (https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/967559993380818945)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 25, 2018, 04:06:04 PM
Paul LaPolice Retweeted
Tony Racioppi
‏ @Tonyrazz03
3h3 hours ago

Pro Qb Phil Nelson of the CFLS Winnipeg Blue Bombers working 3 Quick with Dovetail drop to make a straight, balanced throw to the left with anticipation, accuracy and velocity. Phil is going to be a great player in the CFL. He is the complete QB. @TEST_Football @Wpg_BlueBombers

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/967559993380818945 (https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/967559993380818945)

I assume we own his rights?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Built like a linebacker at 6-1 and 220 and he can throw a sideline pass with velocity and accuracy!  He looks like a competitor with a lot of potential....perhaps he can be mentored by two veteran QBs.   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 25, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Paul LaPolice Retweeted
Tony Racioppi
‏ @Tonyrazz03
3h3 hours ago

Pro Qb Phil Nelson of the CFLS Winnipeg Blue Bombers working 3 Quick with Dovetail drop to make a straight, balanced throw to the left with anticipation, accuracy and velocity. Phil is going to be a great player in the CFL. He is the complete QB. @TEST_Football @Wpg_BlueBombers

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/967559993380818945 (https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/967559993380818945)

I take it we are not allowed to post about Nelsons past in here anymore ?.....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Doublezero on February 25, 2018, 04:24:47 PM
Durant will get some reps on offense, particularly during tempo like Lefevour did.  Durant might get a few more than Lefevour did, because he can actually throw the ball
That remains to be seen. In fact, there is considerable evidence to the contrary: http://www.3downnation.com/2017/09/23/darian-durant-continues-struggle/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on February 25, 2018, 04:29:44 PM
That remains to be seen. In fact, there is considerable evidence to the contrary: http://www.3downnation.com/2017/09/23/darian-durant-continues-struggle/
Well on CJOB Durant said after talking to Lapo, that's what he'd be doing. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 04:30:41 PM
Impressive physicality.....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 25, 2018, 04:32:19 PM
That remains to be seen. In fact, there is considerable evidence to the contrary: http://www.3downnation.com/2017/09/23/darian-durant-continues-struggle/

with a better team around him like the Bombers I could see another Ricky Ray type story where Durant gets one more cup before he retires....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on February 25, 2018, 04:48:16 PM
with a better team around him like the Bombers I could see another Ricky Ray type story where Durant gets one more cup before he retires....
With 3 bad years in a row, I see Durant as Roy Dewalt when the Bombers signed him. (Broken beyond repair)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 04:49:28 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/tonyrazz03/status/922629289585016832?lang=en

I don?t normally get too excited about Bomber back up QBs.....but this Nelson prospect looks like he got game....he was invited back after being on our practice roster late last season.   Looking forward to seeing him perform at TC!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on February 25, 2018, 04:50:31 PM
With 3 bad years in a row, I see Durant as Roy Dewalt when the Bombers signed him. (Broken beyond repair)

Totally a possibility......but if it turns out that way it ain't gonna look good on management for picking him up


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 04:54:53 PM
With 3 bad years in a row, I see Durant as Roy Dewalt when the Bombers signed him. (Broken beyond repair)
Thing is he was not signed as a #1 QB....only as a backup and he seems to have accepted that role with the Bombers. I think he might fit in well....plus his experience will be an asset and help in mentoring our #3 guy Phil Nelson.  Say what you like about our back ups but for the first time in a very looooong time, I like the depth we currently have at the position of QB.   Perhaps my optimism will grow or diminish as the season progresses.....but right now on paper, we look good at QB.   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on February 25, 2018, 05:07:44 PM
Thing is he was not signed as a #1 QB....only as a backup and he seems to have accepted that role with the Bombers. I think he might fit in well....plus his experience will be an asset and help in mentoring our #3 guy Phil Nelson.  Say what you like about our back ups but for the first time in a very looooong time, I like the depth we currently have at the position of QB.   Perhaps my optimism will grow or diminish as the season progresses.....but right now on paper, we look good at QB.   
He's accepted the role of backup because he's played his way out of the role of starter for the last 3 years. I'm all for giving a guy another chance, but he's going on to his 4th chance. I doubt it works out.

I don't like the depth we have at QB. If Nichols goes down, I expect we're done. Old guy that hasn't been good in years followed by raw rookie doesn't bode well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on February 25, 2018, 05:09:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/tonyrazz03/status/922629289585016832?lang=en

I don?t normally get too excited about Bomber back up QBs.....but this Nelson prospect looks like he got game....he was invited back after being on our practice roster late last season.   Looking forward to seeing him perform at TC!

You might want to temper your enthusiasm a bit.  So far, what I've seen is that he can throw a nice ball against no coverage and with no rush.  And he can leap like like a frog.    Until he actually gets some reps in a preseason game, you are setting yourself up for a heartache....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 05:15:01 PM
He's accepted the role of backup because he's played his way out of the role of starter for the last 3 years. I'm all for giving a guy another chance, but he's going on to his 4th chance. I doubt it works out.

I don't like the depth we have at QB. If Nichols goes down, I expect we're done. Old guy that hasn't been good in years followed by raw rookie doesn't bode well.
Thats totally possible as is the possibility he may be an asset for us.....also in mentoring our #3 and #4 prospects.   I look at this as a cup half full.....rather than half empty.   Let?s see where we are after the Banjo Bowl and we will compare notes.  


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 05:20:31 PM
You might want to temper your enthusiasm a bit.  So far, what I've seen is that he can throw a nice ball against no coverage and with no rush.  And he can leap like like a frog.    Until he actually gets some reps in a preseason game, you are setting yourself up for a heartache....
After being a Bomber fan for 60 years I have not ever been too enthusiastic about our back up QB situation...especially for the last 2 decades.   If you actually read my post I stated that I normally do not get too excited about QB prospects.....so cut me some slack if I feel slightly optimistic about this one.   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 25, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
After being a Bomber fan for 60 years I have not ever been enthusiastic about our back QB situation...especially for the last 2 decades.   If you actually read my post I stated that I normally don?t get too excited about QB prospects.....so cut me some slack if I?m feeling slightly optimistic about this one.   

Lincoln, here is a highlight clip of the other QB looking to be #3, Josh Straughan. I like him, he's a mobile QB that will step up, or move the pocket, without giving up on the play. Has good arm strength and is very accurate (watch how he consistently hits his receivers in stride) and has decent speed (4.82)... but he runs well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSAXwD4tZKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSAXwD4tZKk)

here is one of him throwing on the farm to a guy in a moving truck, lol...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBv5XGJxZo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBv5XGJxZo)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 25, 2018, 06:58:00 PM
Lincoln, here is a highlight clip of the other QB looking to be #3, Josh Straughan. I like him, he's a mobile QB that will step up, or move the pocket, without giving up on the play. Has good arm strength and is very accurate (watch how he consistently hits his receivers in stride) and has decent speed (4.82)... but he runs well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSAXwD4tZKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSAXwD4tZKk)

here is one of him throwing on the farm to a guy in a moving truck, lol...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBv5XGJxZo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBv5XGJxZo)
Thanks Chevy....now I?m feeling even slightly more optimistic about our QB depth.....loved the clip throwing to the guy in the truck.....he looks quick on his feet and throws well on the run.   And yes we have seen high lite reel clips of countless college QBs looking spectacular only to quickly fade into oblivion in the pros....however we now have a legit QB with GC experience to mentor all of our QBs so possibly just possibly the Bombers might have a chance at actually developing a back up QB into a starter.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on February 25, 2018, 07:00:35 PM
Thanks Chevy....now I?m feeling even slightly more optimistic about our QB depth.....loved the clip throwing to the guy in the truck.....he looks quick on his feet and throws well on the run.   And yes we have seen high lite reel clips of countless college QBs looking spectacular only to quickly fade into oblivion in the pros....however we now have a legit QB with GC experience to mentor all of our QBs so possibly just possibly the Bombers might have a chance at actually developing a back up QB into a starter.

another thing about him, he's one of those guys that wants the ball, some call it cocky, but being in the spotlight doesn't phase him a bit. Really confident and wants to play. Some guys think they do and can't do it under the pressure...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on February 25, 2018, 07:22:09 PM
After being a Bomber fan for 60 years I have not ever been too enthusiastic about our back up QB situation...especially for the last 2 decades.   If you actually read my post I stated that I normally do not get too excited about QB prospects.....so cut me some slack if I feel slightly optimistic about this one.   

Lol.. Dog bless the optimists.  More power to you brother....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 26, 2018, 05:32:54 AM
Lol.. Dog bless the optimists.  More power to you brother....
:D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on February 26, 2018, 07:38:51 AM
Senility is not a good thing. Lol! Just kidding I can dig your experience as I, being 61.....now what was I Saying.....

I for one have to gush over a guy hitting a guy in a moving pick up.  Maybe Sask can use this guy?

Great report on the camp by the way. Thanks!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on February 27, 2018, 10:19:54 PM
OFF-SEASON MOVES TO DATE
Feb 27 - Ed Tait

They are still chasing a potential big-name ratio changer - and a familiar face - in Henoc Muamba.

And while they may still kick the tires on some other talent still available over the next few weeks, there is a very real sense the Winnipeg Blue Bombers have done all their heavy lifting when it comes to reshaping their roster through Canadian Football League free agency.

The Bomber brass were busy long before the deadline a couple of weeks ago, locking up 13 of their own free agents before they hit the market in offensive linemen Jermarcus Hardrick, Pat Neufeld, Stanley Bryant and Manase Foketi; kicker Justin Medlock; running back/receiver Timothy Flanders; defensive tackle Drake Nevis; linebackers Ian Wild and Maurice Leggett; defensive backs Chris Randle, Kevin Fogg and Derek Jones, and receiver Weston Dressler.

That was augmented by the addition of veteran pieces like quarterback Darian Durant, receiver Adarius Bowman, and defensive backs Anthony Gaitor and Steven Clarke before free agency officially started.

And when the annual talent store opened, the club then added a pair of homegrowns in receiver Nic Demski and running back Kienan LaFrance, both from the Saskatchewan Roughriders, and a pair of ex-B.C. Lions in versatile defensive back/linebacker Chandler Fenner and defensive end Craig Roh.

Couple all those additions with the annual defections - Jamaal Westerman, Travis Bond, T.J. Heath, Clarence Denmark and Jake Thomas have either signed elsewhere or no longer appear to be in the team's 2018 plans - and the Bombers roster has undergone a significant makeover even before the team gets to training camp.

With all that in mind, here's a recap of some of the free agent changes and how they impact the Bombers depth chart (*indicates Canadian):

QUARTERBACK

In: Darian Durant
Out: Dominique Davis (Ott), Dan LeFevour (retired)
Newcomers: Josh Straughan, Philip Nelson
Returnees: Matt Nichols
Synopsis: Landing Durant gives the Bombers a proven, veteran starter behind Matt Nichols and makes the depth chart at the most important position on the field the deepest it's been in over a decade. Both Straughan and Nelson showed enough during a visit last fall to earn training camp invitations.

RUNNING BACK

In: Kienan LaFrance* (Sask)
Out: Christophe Normand* (Edm)
Newcomers: Zach Bauman
Returnees: Andrew Harris*, Timothy Flanders, Mike Miller*, John Rush*
Synopsis: Andrew Harris is the clear-cut starter and import Timothy Flanders would be his back-up if something were to happen to the CFL's top Canadian player. LaFrance is an intriguing addition as he is more of a tailback-type capable of filling in for Harris in an emergency than was Normand, a fullback. All three - Harris, LaFrance and Flanders - have the skillset to play the running back/receiver hybrid position.

RECEIVER

In: Adarius Bowman (Edm), Nic Demski* (Sask), Mitchell Baines* (Ham)
Out: Julian Feoli-Gudino* (Ott.) Clarence Denmark (free agent)
Newcomers: Corey Washington, Tylor Henry*, Gary Brown, Brendon Thera-Plamondon*
Returnees: Darvin Adams, Weston Dressler, Matt Coates*, Chris Givens, Ryan Lankford, L'Damian Washington, Myles White, Drew Wolitarsky*
Synopsis: The Bombers vowed at the end of last season to get more weapons on the field around Nichols and in landing Bowman and Demski, have done just that. Bowman's numbers were down last season - he had 45 catches for 534 yards and five TDs in 12 games - but he is just one year removed from his spectacular 2016 season in which he went 120-1,761 with nine TDs. In Demski the Bombers believe they have a ready-to-bust-out talent if he can stay healthy, and a player that could allow the offence to feature two Canadians in the receiving corps, along with Matt Coates.

OFFENSIVE LINE

In: None
Out: Travis Bond (Sask)
Newcomers: Cody Speller*
Returnees: Matthias Goossen*, Stanley Bryant, Sukh Chungh*, Michael Couture*, Manase Foketi, Jermarcus Hardrick, Patrick Neufeld*, Qadr Spooner*
Synopsis: Bond's departure means there will be a change up front to a unit that has been both consistent and durable over the last two seasons. He is a pile pusher from the guard position, but his fate here was sealed late last year when Neufeld capably replaced him. That means the Bombers will now start three Canadians along the O-line, giving them more ratio flexibility.

DEFENSIVE LINE

In: Craig Roh (B.C.)
Out: Jamaal Westerman (Mtl); Jake Thomas (free agent)
Newcomers: Sam Montgomery,Chris Casher, Daniel Awoleke
Returnees: Trent Corney*, Jackson Jeffcoat, Tristan Okpalaugo, Ian Marouf*, Faith Ekakitie*, Cory Johnson, Drake Nevis
Synopsis: Even with the departure of two Canadians in Westerman and the uncertainty with Thomas - who remains unsigned - there are a lot of pieces here. Corney and Ekakitie still provide the option to use Canadians, but the addition of Roh augments a crew that features Jeffcoat, Okpalaugo, Johnson and Nevis.

LINEBACKERS

In: None
Out: Sam Hurl (Sask), Kyle Knox (Mtl)
Newcomers: None
Returnees: Jovan Santos-Knox, Maurice Leggett, Ian Wild, Jesse Briggs*, Shayne Gauthier*, Thomas Miles*, Frank Renaud*, Kyrie Wilson, Jevaris Jones (practice roster).
Synopsis: The picture changes dramatically here if the Bombers land Muamba, who is also being wooed by the Montreal Alouettes. It's not just that he is a Canadian and would provide stability at the middle linebacker position, it's that he is coming off a year in which he led the Riders in tackles and total defensive plays with 106 (82 tackles, 11 special teams tackles, two quarterback pressures, three forced fumbles, two interceptions, five knockdowns and one tackle for loss). If Muamba takes a pass on a return, the club is more than content to begin camp taking a look at Santos-Knox or Ian Wild in the middle, along with two players from last year in Wilson and Jones and whomever else they might find through their scouting department.

DEFENSIVE BACKS

In: Chandler Fenner (B.C.), Anthony Gaitor (B.C.), Steven Clarke (B.C.)
Out: T.J. Heath (Tor)
Newcomers: Tevin Homer, Zavian Bingham, Eric Patterson, Travis Howard, Sam Brown
Returnees: Brandon Alexander, Kahlen Branning*, Abu Conteh*, Derek Jones*, Taylor Loffler*, Brendan Morgan* (returns after being released prior to last season), Robert Porter, Chris Randle, Brian Walker.
Synopsis: Heath's exit takes a ball-hawk out of the secondary, but the Bombers have added some interesting pieces that could give the unit more flexibility. Fenner, like Maurice Leggett, can play both defensive back and the strong-side linebacker position and Gaitor and Clarke do have some experience. Add that crew to a unit that includes CFL All-Stars in Randle and Loffler and sophomores like Walker and Alexander, and the camp battles for spots figures to be intense.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/27/off-season-moves-date/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/02/27/off-season-moves-date/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on February 28, 2018, 10:41:46 AM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.
Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw)

Not impressed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 28, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.
Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw)

Not impressed.
If you are in Edmonton for the Bomber/Ticat Grey Cup game...I will buy you a beer!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on February 28, 2018, 12:19:35 PM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw) Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).


Not impressed.

Complete over exaggeration, at the very least, on all of the bolded. How on god's green earth can you say that Leggett and Wild are not LBers. ???


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on February 28, 2018, 12:46:58 PM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.
Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw)

Not impressed.
Fenner and Roh are journeymen? Denmark did nothing down the stretch, I don't know why you have an issue with him not returning. I hate that we haven't signed an experienced LB, even if it was a guy who maybe only played a half season or was a backup more often. Just someone who has played in the CFL. But that being said, Walters did a good chunk of work this offseason compared to some other teams.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: rubanski on February 28, 2018, 01:45:18 PM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.
Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw)

Not impressed.

Some fair points, and some unfair ones.

SAM lbs are basically DBs in the CFL. Fenner/Leggett will be as good as Heath/Leggett on the field side. Gaitor is a pick up over Walker or Alexander. Secondary better, no question.

Wild I agree, but Knox definitely has the skill set to play MLB in the CFL.

Westerman got paid 25% more than anyone else was offering in MTL. Your comments need to be grounded in reality. Would you have preferred we paid an extra $50k to him?  I would not.

Thomas is still available... there's hope!


How in the name of all that is holy can you complain about "difference makers" on the team, and in the same breath - question why Denmark isn't back? We won't rag on the guy or debate the kind of player he is - we can surely all agree he is not a difference maker anymore.

Walters has hired ex-Bisons to be the footsoldiers instead of Denmark. People will be less apt to complain about mediocre local national talent, than complain about Denmark's seemingly mediocre contributions to the team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on February 28, 2018, 03:39:52 PM
With Leggett and Fenner we have the 2 best SAM's in the league....Westerman's production will more than be replaced by our current ends and Thomas won't be missed in the least.

Heath is good...not a be all end all HB like lots here claim and for all his picks...he also messed up a lot and was victimized and at times his rogue play caused breakdowns elsewhere on the defense...I bet this year we will see significantly less explosion plays and actually have more physicality. There is a reason why the Bombers did go super aggressive to retain him


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 28, 2018, 03:56:13 PM
As mentioned I would say the loss of Heath and addition of Fenner/Gaitor makes our secondary at least as good potentially slightly improved.

As to Denmark if we run into injury concerns he will probably still be available and excells in that role, but Bowman gives us an improvement. Demski is a wild card....potential in spades...but is just empty potential?

Thomas may still be back? We don't know...Ekakitie hopefully improved this offseason I agree that what we saw he is no where near Thomas' contribution.

As to your LB concerns...I get it and mostly agree...Wild just can't seem to stay out of the tub, JSK showed promise but is he a MLB? Not a  proven one that's for sure. I disagree with any slander against Leggett, as an OLB he is arguably the best at his position league wide... and the other guy who comes into the conversation as the best will be playing behind him...or rotating with him.

Loosing Westerman does suck....no one can sugar coat that...But $50k is a-lot of $$ IMO Mtrl. over paid...Not that I don't think he is good as he is a ratio buster and a great player but IMO the price was just too high...that happens sometimes and in this case we lost him to a team more desperate, and because of what they paid they have to sacrifice somewhere else. so its not an all in win for Mtrl either!

Biggest concern is LB corpse again.....Although you (DM83) seem a little to tough on the team/Walters..I do share your concerns to a degree


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on March 07, 2018, 11:26:29 PM
How the Bombers can create cap space for Henoc Muamba
March 6th - Justin Dunk

Canadian linebacker Henoc Muamba is "trying to make" re-joining the Winnipeg Blue Bombers "happen", the city where he started his CFL career.

The Bombers have wined and dined Muamba, so now it's time to get down to business. Given his hefty price tag - he will command in the neighbourhood of $200,000 - how will the Bombers be able to afford him?

Muamba's old contract with the Riders would have seen him make $220,000 (if he played in 15 games) and while his new deal may not quite reach that lofty number, $200,000 seems too be the starting rate for an elite, ratio-breaking Canadian. Argos' tackle Chris Van Zeyl, Alouettes' defensive lineman Jamaal Westerman, Redblacks' receiver Brad Sinopoli, Ticats' defensive tackle Ted Laurent, and Bombers' running back Andrew Harris are all within that (upper class) national neighbourhood. Muamba belongs in that group, but Winnipeg has to make sure he fits within their salary cap.

There is one easy way to create some room: release defensive end Tristan Okpalaugo. The 28-year-old signed a two-year contract with the Bombers last February. He played in 12 games making 34 tackles and six sacks while intercepting a pass for a touchdown. Okpalaugo made approximately $168,000 in 2017 and 2018 sees his contract bump $10,000 to $178,000. For comparison, that's over $30,000 more than the CFL?s reigning sack leader Charleston Hughes is due to make with the Riders.

Jackson Jeffcoat, who produced 36 tackles and seven sacks plus a forced fumble and interception, remains on a cheap rookie CFL deal. Free agent Craig Roh signed for two seasons, four days after the market opened when prices for players dropped and he has 20 sacks in 45 career games. Jeffcoat and Roh are both younger, played more games in 2017, and can rush the passer just as well if not better than Okpalaugo. Granted Okpalaugo is the only player on the Bombers roster with double-digit sack seasons on his resume.

All three are starting-calibre ends in the CFL, but money plays a factor and the least amount of value for the dollars out of the trio is obvious. Canadian Trent Corney is a rising talent and he's served as the rotational end since being drafted ninth overall in 2016. He?s a great depth piece, who has intriguing potential as a starter and rounds out the defensive end position nicely if Okpalaugo is there or not.

Without having access to the Bombers' exact salary cap numbers and tools to move numbers around, it would seem possible to take Okpalaugo's money out and tinker elsewhere on the roster to find the $200,000 that could bring Muamba back to Winnipeg.

http://3downnation.com/2018/03/06/how-the-bombers-can-create-cap-space-for-henoc-muamba/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/03/06/how-the-bombers-can-create-cap-space-for-henoc-muamba/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on March 07, 2018, 11:45:56 PM
What the top CFL free agents got paid
March 7th - Justin Dunk

"You always overpay in free agency."

That's what one CFL player personnel man said about players hitting the open market and a look at the numbers indicates that was largely true in 2018 as well.

There was a lot of Canadian-coloured money thrown around for teams to land coveted football assets. The biggest dollars went to a national - Jamaal Westerman - which should serve as a reminder how valuable the ratio-breakers and starting Canucks are in the CFL.

If new Montreal Alouette defensive lineman Westerman plays six games in 2018 he'll make $218,000 plus performance bonuses on his two-year contract. Westerman made around $165,000 in 2017 and Winnipeg offered the national pass rusher a raise of approximately $190,000 to stay with the Bombers but he elected to test the market and the gamble paid off, literally. Montreal general manager Kavis Reed reportedly flew to New Jersey to woo the Als prized free agent who has made 32 sacks in 47 career CFL games.

Just before the ball was snapped on free agency, defensive tackle Ted Laurent re-signed in Hamilton. Even though he took a pay cut from his 2017 salary, Laurent will make over $200,000 in 2018 and 2019 on his two-year pact. The 30-year-old has been a disruptive force on the Ticats' defensive front for four years and over his career, Laurent has 150 tackles and 35 sacks in 110 games.

Elite linebacker Solomon Elimimian signed an extension in B.C. after the market opened that is worth over $200,000 in 2018 and 2019. The 2014 CFL MOP produced a league record 144 tackles in 2017, beating his own mark by one. Elimimian is well worth the money.

The Riders brought Zach Evans for a hefty $170,000 price tag. There were talent evaluators who felt Evans was among the best Canadian defensive lineman in the league and it's clear Saskatchewan had a similar rating. At 27 years old, Evans is in his prime which means the Riders should get quality production from the Regina native.

Hamilton secured their quarterback of the defence on the morning of Feb. 13 when free agency was just hours away. Larry Dean put his name on a one-year contract worth $160,000. Since becoming the man in the middle of the Ticats 'D', Dean has produced 174 tackles, five sacks, five forced fumbles and one interception in 36 games  - 94 stops earned the 29 - year-old an East all-star nod in 2017.

After a big bounce-back season Euclid Cummings cashed in. He had a down year making 16 tackles and three sacks for Winnipeg in 2016, but recorded 21 tackles, eight sacks and forced three fumbles in 2017. That made the Lions ante up $160,000 for Cummings, a consistent pocket pusher from the inside who stays stout against the run.

Pass rusher Alex Bazzie came back from an impressive training camp and pre-season with the Arizona Cardinals to play six games for B.C. in 2017 making 12 tackles and three sacks. In 56 career CFL games, Bazzie has 32 sacks, proven ability to get the quarterback to the ground Edmonton paid under $160,000 for 2018 with an increase for 2019.

Nic Demski was coveted based on his pure athleticism and rare abilities as a combo receiver and returner. Winnipeg paid a $35,000 signing bonus and nearly $150,000 on the one-year deal Demski signed. Watching Demski used in game plans put together by Bombers offensive coordinator Paul LaPolice is going to be fun for all.

Kickers who can perform all three duties - kick-offs, punting and field goals - are hard to find, Canadian ones even tougher. That?s why Hamilton paid $145,000 on a one-year deal for Lirim Hajrullahu. He went 47-of-58 on field goals (81 per cent) with 44-yard punting average in 2017.

Noel Thorpe wants big, physical defensive ends for his defensive scheme and A.C. Leonard was an ideal fit. After transitioning from offence (receiver/tight end) the 26-year-old had 67 tackles and 10 sacks in two seasons under Chris Jones. He earned a $50,000 signing bonus and $145,000 for the quick and productive transition made to defence.

Montreal upgraded the secondary in two major ways: signing Tommie Campbell and Mitchell White. The Alouettes could pay over $150,000 to the former Stampeder while White will earn almost $140,000 (with an increase in 2019.) Campbell and White should form a formidable duo of cover men for Montreal and rookie defensive coordinator Kahlil Carter.

Winnipeg did their window shopping and really wanted the shiny item in the display case: Chandler Fenner. The Bombers locked down a versatile defender for two years at around $130,000 per season. He can play strong-side linebacker and various positions in the secondary while being a demon on special teams.

Adam Konar displayed his ratio-breaking ability during 12 games in 2017 when he made 59 tackles, two interceptions, one sack and forced one fumble. That earned the University of Calgary product a raise on his two-year deal, worth in the neighbourhood of $130,000 for 2018 and $160,000 the following campaign. Just 24, Konar is a young, dynamic Canadian talent.

Sam Hurl's arrival in Saskatchewan meant Henoc Muamba was on the way out for one reason: salary cap. The former Bombers starting middle linebacker will make around $110,000 in 2018. If healthy Muamba could've made $220,000. Hurl, the 27-year-old who started all 18 games for Winnipeg in 2017 making 65 tackles, is a much cheaper option. That savings allowed the Riders to boost the ratio flexibility.

Enter Jerome Messam. The extra cap dollars opened up in the Hurl for Muamba swap made it possible for Saskatchewan to bring a starting-calibre Canadian running back to Regina for around $95,000 plus another over $15,000 in possible playtime incentives. The 32-year-old is coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard rushing season in Calgary and appears to have some gas left in the Brampton Bus.

http://3downnation.com/2018/03/07/what-top-cfl-free-agents-got-paid/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/03/07/what-top-cfl-free-agents-got-paid/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: PloenFan on March 09, 2018, 12:36:44 AM
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Thomas may still be back? We don't know...Ekakitie hopefully improved this offseason I agree that what we saw he is no where near Thomas' contribution.

As to your LB concerns...I get it and mostly agree...Wild just can't seem to stay out of the tub, JSK showed promise but is he a MLB? Not a  proven one that's for sure. I disagree with any slander against Leggett, as an OLB he is arguably the best at his position league wide... and the other guy who comes into the conversation as the best will be playing behind him...or rotating with him.

Loosing Westerman does suck....no one can sugar coat that...But $50k is a-lot of $$ IMO Mtrl. over paid...Not that I don't think he is good as he is a ratio buster and a great player but IMO the price was just too high...that happens sometimes and in this case we lost him to a team more desperate, and because of what they paid they have to sacrifice somewhere else. so its not an all in win for Mtrl either!
In a perfect world:
- Okpalaugo gets 11 or 12 sacks like he did in Toronto.
- Corney get 8 or 10 sacks
- Thomas returns and gets 8 sacks (double his total from last season)
- We sign Muamba at MLB, and don't have to release a key player to stay under the salary cap
- DB's Alexander and Walker develop into all-stars :D
- The new DB's help us keep forcing turnovers, cut down the "explosion plays", and cut down our points and yardage allowed.

I guess I can dream, eh !  ;D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: PloenFan on March 09, 2018, 12:38:39 AM
Almost forgot:
- the motivated Ekakite gets 4 sacks  :D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on March 09, 2018, 01:53:40 AM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.
Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw)

Not impressed.

Here we go again with the children's story of chicken little and the sky is falling (early too). 

Please don't use the term joke for our defense.  Way to early to judge them and please have more respect for this ball club. 

I do agree on Thomas to an extent.  He was worth keeping.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on March 09, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
Thanks for the summary.

IMO, we haven't done much. The defence is a joke.
Leggett and Wild are not really linebackers.
We have no MLB Knox- is an outside LB
We lost an All Star DB and an All star DE. And have replaced,them with journeymen albeit potentially solid players.

We have snubbed glue guys like Denmark and Thomas.  Thomas especially is shocking.  He is 3x the player the un-ripe Ekatitie is.

Gushing over Demski is a fantasy. He has done zero as a difference maker. He in reality has been a back up. Who,is the other guy??!oh yeah LeFramce.......if this guy gets a thousand yards as a Career Bomber, I would be surprised.  I am happy we are supporting the Bisons though, in signing their alumni.

These are all good signings, as depth guys.  But Walters, come on man, zero of these. Guys are game breakers.
Furthermore snubbing Denmark and Thomas are mystifying.....foot soldiers who do the heavy lifting, and do the job,in spite of media hostility( Denmark) and disrespect (Thomas).

The signings are all good, but hardly going to make all other teams. Quake in their boots.
Can Roh be another Westermann? Hope so.  Can Ekatite start? (Guffaw)

Not impressed.
The only thing that's a joke is your post!! Over react much!!

Haven't done nothing in the offseason, what planet are you on?? We signed Darian Durante as our BACKUP Qb, a massive improvement over the previous chumps we had. Yep, Adarius Bowman s a joke too, but I ll enjoy watching him get his 1000 yd season just the same!! We upgraded our NAT depth at receiver with Demski and Lafrance gives us solid depth at NAT RB and helps with the ratio management

We lost Heath , big deal, the guy picked cherries/poorly thrown passes in some defense but couldn't cover a bet in man coverage. I ll take the fella from BC any day

We lost westerman, big deal, we got Roh and I ll take him anyday and westerman can count his money and
Rack up all the 15 yard UR penalties he wants, so long, see ya.

We haven't got a MLB,  but that s coming, HM will be here

Regarding Thomas, he s still available so we haven't really lost him, if he wants to win some football games, he can sign back on with us


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 09, 2018, 03:02:26 AM
Here we go again with the children's story of chicken little and the sky is falling (early too). 

Please don't use the term joke for our defense.  Way to early to judge them and please have more respect for this ball club. 

I do agree on Thomas to an extent.  He was worth keeping.

Bringing back Thomas may be plan B if Muamba signs elsewhere, still need another Natl. on the D. IMO.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on March 09, 2018, 04:37:19 AM
Bringing back Thomas may be plan B if Muamba signs elsewhere, still need another Natl. on the D. IMO.

I highly doubt it will be Thomas. We had months to re-sign him and chose not to do so. Long before Muamba was even on our radar.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on March 09, 2018, 01:31:18 PM
if Thomas is Plan B for the loss of Westerman and not being able to land Muamba in his place for ratio/salary...then we are in a world of trouble...We are better off using Corney in Thomas role in the middle...He is bigger ..faster..stronger and more athletic

Thomas may have a few "pounds" on him but it is doughie pounds


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Horseman on March 09, 2018, 01:51:45 PM
The only thing that's a joke is your post!! Over react much!!

Haven't done nothing in the offseason, what planet are you on?? We signed Darian Durante as our BACKUP Qb, a massive improvement over the previous chumps we had. Yep, Adarius Bowman s a joke too, but I ll enjoy watching him get his 1000 yd season just the same!! We upgraded our NAT depth at receiver with Demski and Lafrance gives us solid depth at NAT RB and helps with the ratio management

We lost Heath , big deal, the guy picked cherries/poorly thrown passes in some defense but couldn't cover a bet in man coverage. I ll take the fella from BC any day

We lost westerman, big deal, we got Roh and I ll take him anyday and westerman can count his money and
Rack up all the 15 yard UR penalties he wants, so long, see ya.

We haven't got a MLB,  but that s coming, HM will be here

Regarding Thomas, he s still available so we haven't really lost him, if he wants to win some football games, he can sign back on with us

I wonder if Darian is related  to Jimmy Durante. ;D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 09, 2018, 02:08:54 PM
if Thomas is Plan B for the loss of Westerman and not being able to land Muamba in his place for ratio/salary...then we are in a world of trouble...We are better off using Corney in Thomas role in the middle...He is bigger ..faster..stronger and more athletic

Thomas may have a few "pounds" on him but it is doughie pounds

So what's up with that?  Thomas has been a pro since 2012 and he's still only 27, did he not buy into workouts necessary to improve his physique?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: buckzumhoff on March 09, 2018, 02:14:21 PM
Id keep Okpalaugo and Jeffcoat and go with maybe pick up Justin Cole. Need a pass rush. Think theres is room  for more imports on the defensive front line.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 09, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
Id keep Okpalaugo and Jeffcoat and go with maybe pick up Justin Cole. Need a pass rush. Think theres is room  for more imports on the defensive front line.

That does nothing to help the ratio, they need another good Canuck, like Eddie Steele.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: sweep the leg on March 09, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
Id keep Okpalaugo and Jeffcoat and go with maybe pick up Justin Cole. Need a pass rush. Think theres is room  for more imports on the defensive front line.

Why Justin Cole?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 02:54:49 PM
Why Justin Cole?
Ya he was always injured and he badmouthed the Bombers on twitter. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on March 09, 2018, 03:00:40 PM
That does nothing to help the ratio, they need another good Canuck, like Eddie Steele.

Steele and Thomas are pretty similar, if anything, Thomas had a better year last year, and is 2 years younger...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on March 09, 2018, 03:45:03 PM
I wonder if Darian is related  to Jimmy Durante. ;D
I gotta million of em, cha, cha, cha!!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: buckzumhoff on March 09, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
Why Justin Cole?


Because when he was in the lineup he was one of the best players on the =defense. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on March 09, 2018, 04:03:17 PM

Because when he was in the lineup he was one of the best players on the =defense. 

He's not even good enough to be on our PR, imo.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 09, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
Because when he was in the lineup he was one of the best players on the =defense. 

On a terrible defense... That's not saying much.

Chris Casher should get a good look this season. Okpalaugo, Jeffcoat, Roh, and Casher... That's a solid DE corps.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on March 09, 2018, 06:51:29 PM
So what's up with that?  Thomas has been a pro since 2012 and he's still only 27, did he not buy into workouts necessary to improve his physique?

Thomas has an undersized frame for a DT, he has to pack on some extra pounds if he is even going to have a chance in the middle.  Even carrying extra weight, he's playing at 276 lbs against 300 lb OL.   IMHO, he has made the absolute most of the physical attributes he was given.   As a fourth round pick, he has been absolute gold for us.

But at the end of the day, he is at his ceiling.  And we have Ekakitie, who has greater physical tools, scheduled to earn more money this year and more the year after.  Something had to give.... 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: rubanski on March 09, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
It's not a weight issue, it's an athleticism issue. You always got 110% from him, but that was barely cutting it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on March 09, 2018, 10:54:39 PM
Ya he was always injured and he badmouthed the Bombers on twitter. 

That was an older bomber team he badmouthed though right...not this seasons team. An hey I have learned everyone here badmouths the Bombers of the last 27 years lol...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
That was an older bomber team he badmouthed though right...not this seasons team. An hey I have learned everyone here badmouths the Bombers of the last 27 years lol...
Same head coach and GM.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NorthernSkunk on March 10, 2018, 12:38:25 AM
Same head coach and GM.

Okay....so not so long ago.... I'll try googling his story...thanks


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on March 10, 2018, 01:38:38 PM
Thomas has an undersized frame for a DT, he has to pack on some extra pounds if he is even going to have a chance in the middle.  Even carrying extra weight, he's playing at 276 lbs against 300 lb OL.   IMHO, he has made the absolute most of the physical attributes he was given.   As a fourth round pick, he has been absolute gold for us.

But at the end of the day, he is at his ceiling.  And we have Ekakitie, who has greater physical tools, scheduled to earn more money this year and more the year after.  Something had to give.... 

Ettore Lattanzio, 6'0, 252lbs managed 24 tackles and 5 sacks in 2016 in Ottawa.  Jerome Heywood, 5'8, 285lbs was a solid contributor at DT for 7 years in the CFL, including 2 hilarious years lining up beside Doug Brown, who was a full foot taller.

Yes, size, frame, weight all contribute to a players' ability to perform at a position, but technique, heart, motor all figure into it as well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 10, 2018, 03:08:03 PM
Ettore Lattanzio, 6'0, 252lbs managed 24 tackles and 5 sacks in 2016 in Ottawa.  Jerome Heywood, 5'8, 285lbs was a solid contributor at DT for 7 years in the CFL, including 2 hilarious years lining up beside Doug Brown, who was a full foot taller.

Yes, size, frame, weight all contribute to a players' ability to perform at a position, but technique, heart, motor all figure into it as well.

It can be argued that it also depends on who plays beside them.
Haywood has Big Brown who gets double teamed most of the time.
Lattanzio has Evans who has a breakout year last year
Another guy is HAM?s Whitlock who is only 5.10 250 he?s a speedy guy but have big Laurent playing beside him.

With their speed they can probably win their one on one battles but it requires the other guy from the DL to draw the double team.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on March 10, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Ettore Lattanzio, 6'0, 252lbs managed 24 tackles and 5 sacks in 2016 in Ottawa.  Jerome Heywood, 5'8, 285lbs was a solid contributor at DT for 7 years in the CFL, including 2 hilarious years lining up beside Doug Brown, who was a full foot taller.

Yes, size, frame, weight all contribute to a players' ability to perform at a position, but technique, heart, motor all figure into it as well.

Not sure of your point, but Lattanzio dropped to 16 tackles and no sacks last year.  In fact, if you average the last 2 years, Lattanzio and Thomas have identical production.  I don?t think Lattanzio is a full time starter either.

Anyway, I don?t disagree that heart, motor, hustle make a difference.  In fact, those are the attributes that have allowed Thomas to have a CFL career.  But even with his hustle, his physical attributes define a ceiling and the sample size is large enough that we know where that ceiling is.

Ekakitie is younger and has better physical gifts.  He has more upside, although that now has to be realized.

Thomas was one of my favourite Bombers, but like the man says ?better is better?.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: KINGCHARLES on March 11, 2018, 01:32:06 PM
Crazy once upon a time a prototypical DT would have been 6'0-6'3 and 300-350 lbs. You could get the odd freak of nature at 6'8 310 lbs. But now with so many teams in the CFL and NFL passing more frequently DT's need to be more mobile. This leads to the mentality that a 275-300 lb DT is ok now. Don't believe me? NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald is only 6'1 285. Donald averages almost 10 sacks a year from the DT position something you rarely here is a DT getting double digits in sacks.
This brings me to guys like Jake Thomas 6'2 276 lbs. I think Thomas did exactly what was expected of him. He's not a guy that plays 100% of the snaps but he's been a guy thats capable of playing 14-18 games per year every year. Comparing him to guys that are in the same style of role, meaning guys that aren't star DT that play every snap. Thomas is just as good as and DT in the CFL. I would honestly take him over a guy like Turner Jr who was the same size but an american injury prone DT.
I actually hope FatBoi comes back to us. I'd love to see him push Ekakite into the starting role.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on March 11, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
Crazy once upon a time a prototypical DT would have been 6'0-6'3 and 300-350 lbs. You could get the odd freak of nature at 6'8 310 lbs. But now with so many teams in the CFL and NFL passing more frequently DT's need to be more mobile. This leads to the mentality that a 275-300 lb DT is ok now. Don't believe me? NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald is only 6'1 285. Donald averages almost 10 sacks a year from the DT position something you rarely here is a DT getting double digits in sacks.
This brings me to guys like Jake Thomas 6'2 276 lbs. I think Thomas did exactly what was expected of him. He's not a guy that plays 100% of the snaps but he's been a guy thats capable of playing 14-18 games per year every year. Comparing him to guys that are in the same style of role, meaning guys that aren't star DT that play every snap. Thomas is just as good as and DT in the CFL. I would honestly take him over a guy like Turner Jr who was the same size but an american injury prone DT.
I actually hope FatBoi comes back to us. I'd love to see him push Ekakite into the starting role.

Brown played 14 years of pro ball at DT at 6'8, 290...  "Big Bird" used wingspan very effectively...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on March 11, 2018, 09:15:17 PM
Once upon a time.?m DTs 350 PDs? In the CFL?  Huh? Hardly!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bluebeard on March 14, 2018, 09:19:34 PM
That does nothing to help the ratio, they need another good Canuck, like Eddie Steele.
Steele signs back with the Riders.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on March 22, 2018, 12:11:08 AM
March 15th - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International wide receiver A.J. Coney.

Coney (5`8, 180, University of Akron, December 30, 1994 in Orlando, FL) played three seasons for the Akron Zips after playing his freshman year at Weber State. In his three seasons at Akron, he made 69 receptions for 849 total yards and four touchdowns including being named team offensive MVP in his senior season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/03/15/bombers-sign-receiver-j-coney/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/03/15/bombers-sign-receiver-j-coney/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on March 22, 2018, 12:17:35 AM
March 19, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back/linebacker Cody Prewitt and international defensive back Kevin Short.

Prewitt (6`2, 208, Mississippi, December 31, 1992 in Covington, LA) played four seasons with the Ole Miss Rebels recording 247 total tackles and 12 interceptions in his collegiate career. In 2013, he led the SEC with six interceptions and was named a first team All-American. He signed with the Tennessee Titans as an undrafted free agent in 2015, but was released before the start of the season.

Short (6`2, 185, Fort Scott Community College, March 23, 1992 in Florissant, MO) played two seasons for the Fort Scott Greyhounds recording 76 total tackles and breaking the school record with 10 interceptions. He signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as an undrafted free agent in 2015, but was waived before the season. Since then he`s been signed to the practice squads of the Seattle Seahawks, New York Jets, and Los Angeles Rams.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/03/19/bombers-add-two-roster-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/03/19/bombers-add-two-roster-2/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on March 22, 2018, 12:41:01 AM
It`s been reported that Andrew Harris will make about $195,000 this season.

Bombers won`t pay Henoc more than Andrew Harris: GM
March 20, 2018

Winnipeg Blue Bombers general manager Kyle Walters says he does not expect to get a deal done with Canadian linebacker Henoc Muamba.

Walters met with the Winnipeg media on Tuesday and said that the slow pace of negotiations - a hallmark of Muamba`s agent Jonathon Hardaway - and the steep asking price have led him to believe that the 29-year-old will take his talents elsewhere.

`Henoc and his agent have a track record of prolonging these things. They do their due diligence, it`s not a negative. They take their time and they will certainly look to maximize their value. That`s just their track record,` Walters told the media in Winnipeg Tuesday.

The Bombers wined and dined Muamba in late February. Muamba was drafted No. 1 overall in 2011 by the blue and gold.

`We brought Henoc out here three weeks ago, showed him our organization, told him what we were about - thought it went very well. It was our understanding that they were going to have a decision within 48 hours after returning from the visit.`

Muamba made a career-high 92 tackles earning him CFL all-star status in 2013 before leaving for the NFL. But Winnipeg head coach Mike O`Shea said `it`s a little premature yet to pencil him in` after Muamba visited the Manitoba capital.

`We presented an offer prior to Henoc coming out. We were prepared to make Henoc the second highest paid Canadian on our team and what we deemed as fair,` Walters said.

`We were certainly not prepared to offer Henoc Muamba a contract higher than Andrew Harris (set to make just under $200,000 for 2018), which is what they were asking for and it was not going to happen from our end for a multitude of reasons. We`ve been told that the offer that we put together was not going to get the job done. So Henoc won`t be coming here based on the communication that I`ve had.`

After returning north of the border from the NFL in 2015, Muamba signed a lucrative two-year deal with Montreal where he played four games in 2016. Then-general manager Jim Popp shopped Muamba prior to a $55,000 bonus that was due on Feb. 16, 2016 before releasing him that winter. Saskatchewan, one of the teams that considered trading for Muamba, signed him six months later following a stint with the Dallas Cowboys. Following two seasons in Saskatchewan, the Riders put Muamba on the trade block in mid-February, but, when no deal was consummated, the 28-year-old became a free agent after the Riders released him before an off-season payment that was due on February 15.

Last season Muamba had his best year since the CFL all-star campaign he put together in 2013. He played in 17 games and recorded 82 tackles, three forced fumbles, and two interceptions to earn the Riders? Most Outstanding Canadian award.

With Winnipeg unwilling to sweeten their offer, the Montreal Alouettes - badly in need of Canadian talent - become the front runners for Muamba`s services.

http://3downnation.com/2018/03/20/gm-kyle-walters-says-henoc-muamba-wont-be-coming-to-bombers/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/03/20/gm-kyle-walters-says-henoc-muamba-wont-be-coming-to-bombers/)

What the Argos are offering James Wilder Jr.

March 1, 2018

The Toronto Argonauts are reportedly offering running back James Wilder Jr. a contract extension that would make him `one of the highest paid running backs` in the CFL.

That phrasing seems ambiguous, so we`ll do the work.

Canadian Andrew Harris is set to make just under $200,000 with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in 2018, making him the highest paid ball-carrier in the CFL. Given his status as a ratio-breaker and his consistently excellent production, that makes sense. Alouettes running back Tyrell Sutton checks in at $120,000, Jerome Messam $110,000 and C.J. Gable just under $100,000.

Wilder`s new contract offer from the Argos is around $100,000 but it does not include a signing bonus. By comparison, Harris is due $60,000 in off-season money, Sutton received a $36,000 signing bonus while a number of the others have a roster payment or got upfront money when they signed their new deals including Gable ($30,000) Messam ($20,000) Jeremiah Johnson ($18,000) and William Powell ($15,000.) That signing bonus is beneficial for American players because it is taxed at a lower rate, which is why Gable took a larger payment upon signing than hard money elsewhere.

http://3downnation.com/2018/03/01/what-the-argos-are-offering-james-wilder-jr/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/03/01/what-the-argos-are-offering-james-wilder-jr/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 08, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
April 3, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Malik Foreman.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/03/bombers-add-defensive-back-malik-foreman/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/03/bombers-add-defensive-back-malik-foreman/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: thunderNlightning on April 09, 2018, 12:01:32 PM
April 3, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International defensive back Malik Foreman.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/03/bombers-add-defensive-back-malik-foreman/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/03/bombers-add-defensive-back-malik-foreman/)

What does that bring, 80 players to camp that are DB's now? We sure seem to like bringing in a lot of guys to those positions.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on April 09, 2018, 12:05:26 PM
What does that bring, 80 players to camp that are DB's now? We sure seem to like bringing in a lot of guys to those positions.
They probably identified DB as a problem area from last year. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Chris1982 on April 09, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
Crazy once upon a time a prototypical DT would have been 6'0-6'3 and 300-350 lbs. You could get the odd freak of nature at 6'8 310 lbs. But now with so many teams in the CFL and NFL passing more frequently DT's need to be more mobile. This leads to the mentality that a 275-300 lb DT is ok now. Don't believe me? NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald is only 6'1 285. Donald averages almost 10 sacks a year from the DT position something you rarely here is a DT getting double digits in sacks.
This brings me to guys like Jake Thomas 6'2 276 lbs. I think Thomas did exactly what was expected of him. He's not a guy that plays 100% of the snaps but he's been a guy thats capable of playing 14-18 games per year every year. Comparing him to guys that are in the same style of role, meaning guys that aren't star DT that play every snap. Thomas is just as good as and DT in the CFL. I would honestly take him over a guy like Turner Jr who was the same size but an american injury prone DT.
I actually hope FatBoi comes back to us. I'd love to see him push Ekakite into the starting role.

Another example would be Geno Atkins - used to be one of the best DT in the NFL and he is only 6-1, 295.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on April 09, 2018, 01:44:09 PM
What does that bring, 80 players to camp that are DB's now? We sure seem to like bringing in a lot of guys to those positions.

I think we're at about 24 at the moment including the NI's. There will be some released after the mini camp.

However a team needs DB's & receivers to give the QB's practice reps in TC. Generally a few receivers or DB's come up limping in the early days as well.

So I'd expect maybe 16 or so receivers and DB's in the main TC roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 09, 2018, 10:33:34 PM
April 9, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International receivers Jerome Lane and Dominique Reed.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/09/bombers-add-two-receivers/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/09/bombers-add-two-receivers/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 09, 2018, 11:15:12 PM
Current Roster:
QBs                 4
Nationals         29
Internationals   47

Quarterbacks     4
Running backs    4
Full backs          2
Receivers         18
Oline                 9
Kicker               1
Long snapper      1
Dline                11
Linebackers        9
Defensive backs 21

The Bomber's roster on their website lists 4 players that ended the year of the practice roster however there has been no mention that they were re-signed:
Qadr Spooner  (N) - OL
Frank Renaud  (N) - LB
Kyrie Wilson    (I)  - LB
Robert Porter  (I)  - DB


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 14, 2018, 10:13:17 PM
April 10, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International wide receiver Tony Stevens.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/10/bombers-add-receiver-tony-stevens/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/10/bombers-add-receiver-tony-stevens/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 16, 2018, 07:06:55 PM
April 16, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International linebacker Quentin Gause and International defensive back Earl Wolff.

The club has also released International quarterback Josh Straughan.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/16/blue-bombers-transacations/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/16/blue-bombers-transacations/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: True Blue on April 17, 2018, 02:21:33 PM
April 16, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International linebacker Quentin Gause and International defensive back Earl Wolff.

The club has also released International quarterback Josh Straughan.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/16/blue-bombers-transacations/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/16/blue-bombers-transacations/)

Darren Cameron mentioned on twitter the reason for Straughan's release is that he suffered and injury and will be out for months.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on April 17, 2018, 02:22:55 PM
Darren Cameron mentioned on twitter the reason for Straughan's release is that he suffered and injury and will be out for months.
Yep, and it was in response to John Hodge criticizing the Bombers for releasing him, without even having the facts.  Hodge received a lot of criticism on Twitter for his comments. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Mike on April 17, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
Good. Hodge can't help himself, he wants so badly to be taken so seriously but then he always falls back into the trap of making stupid comments like that.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 18, 2018, 03:24:13 AM
April 16, 2018 ? The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive back Ezra Robinson.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/17/bombers-add-db-ezra-robinson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/17/bombers-add-db-ezra-robinson/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 23, 2018, 06:45:37 AM
April 18, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international linebacker Chinedu Oparaku and International running back Cierre Wood.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/18/bombers-add-oparaku-wood/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/18/bombers-add-oparaku-wood/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 23, 2018, 06:51:10 AM
April 19, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive back Tyneil Cooper and International quarterbacks Alex Ross and Tyler Stewart.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/19/bombers-add-qbs-db/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/19/bombers-add-qbs-db/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 23, 2018, 06:55:35 AM
April 22, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international wide receiver Marcus Leak and international defensive back Antoine Johnson.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/22/bombers-add-leak-johnson-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/22/bombers-add-leak-johnson-roster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 23, 2018, 07:02:32 AM
Current Roster:
QBs                 5
Nationals         29
Internationals   56

Quarterbacks     5
Running backs    5
Full backs          2
Receivers         20
Oline                 9
Kicker               1
Long snapper      1
Dline                11
Linebackers       11
Defensive backs 25


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on April 23, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
April 16, 2018 ? The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive back Ezra Robinson.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/17/bombers-add-db-ezra-robinson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/04/17/bombers-add-db-ezra-robinson/)

Not sure what happened to this DB. He's not on the roster but every other signing including today's additions are on the roster.

Did he get released that quickly or decide not to come?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on April 23, 2018, 02:03:10 PM
Not sure what happened to this DB. He's not on the roster but every other signing including today's additions are on the roster.

Did he get released that quickly or decide not to come?
He's listed on the mini camp roster but Eric Patterson isn't


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on April 23, 2018, 04:19:06 PM
He's listed on the mini camp roster but Eric Patterson isn't

Where did you see the mini camp roster?

Patterson may have been excused or clearing up paperwork. Although mini camp is not one to miss when trying to make a roster.

Hard to tell with the accuracy of roster updates at this time of the year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 04:22:44 PM
Where did you see the mini camp roster?
There's one on Twitter from this morning.  But I don't know how to post it  :'(


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on April 23, 2018, 04:24:25 PM
There's one on Twitter from this morning.  But I don't know how to post it  :'(

Right click to copy and then paste in forum? I gave up my cell when I retired and don't have twitter access so I can't do it either.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on April 23, 2018, 04:27:03 PM
Googled it and found this. Prewitt is listed as a LB? Maybe getting a look at SAM back up? Walker, Fogg, Conteh and Howard not listed. Receiver Givens not listed.

The 47 players who will take part in Blue Bombers mini-camp

DEFENSIVE BACKS

Robert Porter

Brandon Alexander

Sam Brown

Brendan Morgan

Kahlen Branning

Anthony Gaitor

Zavian Bingham

Steven Clarke

Tevin Homer

Malik Foreman

Kevin Short

Earl Wolff

Ezra Robinson

Chandler Fenner

Maurice Leggett

Tyneil Cooper

Antoine Johnson

LINEBACKERS

Jevaris Jones

Cody Prewitt

Kyrie Wilson

Quentin Gause

Chinedu Oparaku

QUARTERBACKS

Matt Nichols

Alex Ross

Philip Nelson

Tyler Stewart

RUNNING BACKS

Zach Bauman

Kienan LaFrance

Chris Wood

OFFENSIVE LINE

Matthias Goossen

WIDERECEIVERS

Marcus Leak

Drew Wolitarsky

Nic Demski

Mitchell Baines

Tylor Henry

Garry Brown

Adarius Bowman

Myles White

L?Damian Washington

Ryan Lankford

Corey Washington

A.J. Coney

Jerome Lane

Dominique Reed

Tony Stevens

KICKER

Justin Medlock


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
Right click to copy and then paste in forum? I gave up my cell when I retired and don't have twitter access so I can't do it either.
It was a picture.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on April 23, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
Interesting comment in the google search. It suggested 30 of 47 at the mini camp players expected to be invited to main TC. O'Shea said roster would need to be down to 75 by the end of the week.

That's a reduction of 12 this week. In theory that suggests another 5 will be released before main camp + a 1 for 1 when we sign any new players.

I know that's a little vague on my part just doing some rough math. Would think those initial releases would be mostly receivers and DB's, maybe 1 QB and 1 LB before main TC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on April 23, 2018, 09:48:39 PM
WPG Blue Bombers  @Wpg_BlueBombers  8 hours ago
The mini-camp roster has been released! Reminder that all practices this week are open to the public.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbeaccBW4AAW8qi.jpg:large)

https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/988428459356688387 (https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/988428459356688387)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 03, 2018, 06:47:01 PM
May 1,  2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the following transactions.

The following players have been released from the roster:

International receiver Marcus Leak
International receiver L'Damian Washington
International receiver Garry Brown
International receiver Jerome Lane
National receiver Mitchell Baines
International running back Cierre Wood
International running back Zach Bauman
International quarterback Tyler Stewart
International linebacker Cody Prewitt
International defensive back Sam Brown
International defensive back Robert Porter
International defensive back Tevin Homer
International defensive back Antoine Johnson
International defensive back Kevin Short
International defensive back Malik Foreman

The club has also added National receiver Brett Blaszko to the roster.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/01/winnipeg-blue-bombers-transactions/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/01/winnipeg-blue-bombers-transactions/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 03, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
May 1, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international defensive end Larry Webster.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/01/bombers-add-dl-larry-webster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/01/bombers-add-dl-larry-webster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 03, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Current Roster:
QBs                 4
Nationals         29
Internationals   44

Quarterbacks     4
Running backs    3
Full backs          2
Receivers         16
Oline                 9
Kicker               1
Long snapper      1
Dline                12
Linebackers       11
Defensive backs 18*

* includes Ezra Robinson. He doesn't show on the Bombers' roster but there is no mention of his release.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 03, 2018, 07:27:50 PM
May 2, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have made the following trade with the B.C. Lions today:

Winnipeg sends their first and second-round selections in this year's draft - 7th and 16th overall - to the Lions in exchange for B.C.'s first-round selection in the 2019 CFL Draft and their second-round choice (12th overall) in the 2018 CFL Draft.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/02/bombers-swap-draft-choices-lions/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/02/bombers-swap-draft-choices-lions/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Bond on May 03, 2018, 09:39:23 PM
I?m totally not sold on our Oline depth.  Hopefully Knevel or Shepley are still available for our 1st pick.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on May 03, 2018, 09:52:39 PM
I?m totally not sold on our Oline depth. 
Agreed. The Riders OL depth is pretty weak.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 03, 2018, 10:00:17 PM
I?m totally not sold on our Oline depth.  Hopefully Knevel or Shepley are still available for our 1st pick.

Should be, but it looks like Jones likes Simonese...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 09, 2018, 02:28:40 AM
DRAFT                           04-May-18

WPG ADD  NAT Jacob FIRLOTTE (DB)    Queen's Round 7, Pick 7, Overall 58

WPG ADD  NAT Arnaud GENDRON-DUMOUCHEL (OL)    Montreal Round 4, Pick 7, Overall 33

WPG ADD  NAT Ben KOCZWARA (OL)    Waterloo Round 8, Pick 7, Overall 67

WPG ADD  NAT Matthew OUELLETTE DE CARLO (OL)    Bishop's Round 6, Pick 6, Overall 49

WPG ADD  NAT Daniel PETERMANN (WR)    McMaster Round 3, Pick 8, Overall 26

WPG ADD  NAT Tyrone PIERRE (WR)    Laval Round 5, Pick 6, Overall 41

WPG ADD  NAT Rashaun SIMONISE (WR)    Calgary Round 2, Pick 3, Overall 12

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/ (https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/)

 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 09, 2018, 02:30:55 AM
May 4, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international quarterback Chris Streveler and International  defensive back Marcus Sayles.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/04/bombers-add-two-roster-including-qb-chris-streveler/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/04/bombers-add-two-roster-including-qb-chris-streveler/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 09, 2018, 02:43:44 PM
DRAFT                           04-May-18

WPG ADD  NAT Jacob FIRLOTTE (DB)    Queen's Round 7, Pick 7, Overall 58

WPG ADD  NAT Arnaud GENDRON-DUMOUCHEL (OL)    Montreal Round 4, Pick 7, Overall 33

WPG ADD  NAT Ben KOCZWARA (OL)    Waterloo Round 8, Pick 7, Overall 67

WPG ADD  NAT Matthew OUELLETTE DE CARLO (OL)    Bishop's Round 6, Pick 6, Overall 49

WPG ADD  NAT Daniel PETERMANN (WR)    McMaster Round 3, Pick 8, Overall 26

WPG ADD  NAT Tyrone PIERRE (WR)    Laval Round 5, Pick 6, Overall 41

WPG ADD  NAT Rashaun SIMONISE (WR)    Calgary Round 2, Pick 3, Overall 12

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/ (https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/)

 

So, I guess they signed their entire draft class in one day... I wonder if any got above the minimum ELC, or signed for more than the 2 year min...  probably not.  None were first rounders or "sure thing" picks...  Simonise has to prove himself.  Petermann might have gotten a little bit extra, they might have given him a taste for a three year commitment...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 09, 2018, 03:20:34 PM
So, I guess they signed their entire draft class in one day... I wonder if any got above the minimum ELC, or signed for more than the 2 year min...  probably not.  None were first rounders or "sure thing" picks...  Simonise has to prove himself.  Petermann might have gotten a little bit extra, they might have given him a taste for a three year commitment...

I think every player drafted across the CFL is shown as " added " over on CFL.CA. I think that's a misrepresentation of actual signings to date.

69 drafted players don't all sign on day 1. None are listed on our roster yet either. Regardless we'll get that handled as TC approaches.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 09, 2018, 03:27:10 PM
I think very player drafted across the CFL is shown as " added " over on CFL.CA. I think that's a misrepresentation of actual signings to date.

69 drafted players don't all sign on day 1. None are listed on our roster yet either. Regardless we'll get that handled as TC approaches.

you're right, from what I've read anyway... all are 'added' and invited to camp, from there contracts will be determined and signed if applicable...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 13, 2018, 11:11:02 AM
May 10, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have added international receiver international wide receiver Donteea Dye, International defensive lineman Brandin Bryant and 2018 CFL Draft picks Matthew Ouellet De Carlo (OL), Jacob Firlotte (DB) Ben Koczwara (OL).

The team has also released International quarterback Philip Nelson.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/10/bombers-add-five-release-one/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/10/bombers-add-five-release-one/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 13, 2018, 11:19:28 AM
Darian Durant retires:

I Have Decided to Retire from Football
May 11, 2018

To the CFL, my former teammates, coaches, and to all the guys I;ve battled against over the past 12 years: I just want to say thank you.  Thank you for helping me develop into the man I am today. So many life lessons have been learnt throughout this football journey. With that being said, I have decided to retire from football.

I have some opportunities away from the field that will allow me to transition smoothly into the next stage of my life.  I also became a father earlier this year and I being able to see my daughter grow up day-by-day has played a big part in this decision.

Last but not least, to my fans in Ridernation:  If you cut me open, I am sure that I would bleed green.  Saskatchewan and Regina will always be home.  I always strived to be a Rider legend, and I am honoured to be spoken of in the company of George, Ron, Roger & Gene!   I named my daughter Amayah Taylor, after Taylor Field.  It meant so much to me to be able to play in the last game at old Mosaic Stadium.  It's also very fitting to me that I played the last game of career in Regina last fall, and was able to see and hear the fans one last time from the playing field. I look forward to one day showing my family around Regina, and showing my daughter where her father won a championship in front of Ridernation on Taylor Field.

I hope to return and visit Saskatchewan sometime soon, and am working on launching a foundation to help raise funds and give back to the community that has given me so much.

Love you always,
Darian

www.dariandurant.com (http://www.dariandurant.com)

Winnipeg Blue Bombers Statement on Darian Durant

WINNIPEG, MB., May 11, 2018 - Winnipeg Blue Bombers General Manager Kyle Walters issues the following statement on Darian Durant:

We were informed prior to the start of our mini-camp that Darian Durant, along with his family, was reconsidering continuing his career. Given the magnitude of this decision, we asked him to take the time to thoroughly consider his options and inform us of his decision.

Ultimately, Darian has not informed the team of his decision, but we were notified through social media this morning that he has decided to retire from professional football. While we respect his decision, we are of course are extremely disappointed. Until recently, Darian had given us every indication that he was accepting of his role as a backup and prepared to help our offense in any capacity possible. We recognize this has been a challenging and difficult process for Darian, and the uncertainty has been challenging from our perspective as well. We will move forward with the quarterbacks we currently have on our roster.

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton   May 11
Dariant Durant received a $70K signing bonus. The #Bombers have asked for it back and Durant has said no. #wfp


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 13, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
May 11, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have signed National quarterback Zack Mahoney, and the team's 12th overall selection in last week's CFL Draft, receiver Rashaun Simonise.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/11/bombers-sign-canadian-qb-12th-overall-selection/

Jeff Hamilton  @jeffkhamilton   May 11
The #Bombers have signed WR Rashaun Simonise, the 12th overall pick in the 2018 CFL Draft, to a three-year deal. #wfp


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 13, 2018, 01:31:36 PM
May 11, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have signed National quarterback Zack Mahoney, and the team's 12th overall selection in last week's CFL Draft, receiver Rashaun Simonise.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/11/bombers-sign-canadian-qb-12th-overall-selection/

Jeff Hamilton  @jeffkhamilton   May 11
The #Bombers have signed WR Rashaun Simonise, the 12th overall pick in the 2018 CFL Draft, to a three-year deal. #wfp

Interesting, signing for 3 years he's showing some commitment to the CFL.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 13, 2018, 01:53:54 PM
Interesting, signing for 3 years he's showing some commitment to the CFL.

3 years gives the team control, and usually they will give the player more money in consideration for that...

Win/win...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
May 14, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed national receiver Tyrone Pierre and international defensive back Tharold Simon.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/14/bombers-add-two-roster-3/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/14/bombers-add-two-roster-3/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 15, 2018, 11:15:04 AM
May 14, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the signing of National kicker Felix Mernard-Briere and national receiver Daniel Petermann.

The club has also released national receiver Matt Coates.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/14/bombers-add-two/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/14/bombers-add-two/)

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton    May 14
Looks like Matt Coates broken foot wasn't close to healing as the #Bombers have decided to release him. The #Bombers WR injured his foot during an off-season workout. He was expected to start this year as Winnipeg opts to go with 2 Canadian receivers. #wfp


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 11:54:16 AM
Adam Bighill has been released by the Saints. If he does not go to their PR and cannot find another NFL job he would look pretty good in Blue and Gold.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 12:05:19 PM
Tyler Johnston, a blue chip OT prospect has just been made available for a supplemental draft. Spent some time in the NFL and is a sure fire first rounder. I would not be opposed to Walters bidding one of our first rounders next year for him. Perhaps, this is why Walters traded down.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on May 15, 2018, 12:25:22 PM
Tyler Johnston, a blue chip OT prospect has just been made available for a supplemental draft. Spent some time in the NFL and is a sure fire first rounder. I would not be opposed to Walters bidding one of our first rounders next year for him. Perhaps, this is why Walters traded down.
I am sure we throw a 1st into the ring. Sadly it has to be ours, not BC's I believe. I cant see a scenario where Hamilton or Sask doesn't throw their first rounder in too, both of which are ranked higher than our first


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 12:32:08 PM
I am sure we throw a 1st into the ring. Sadly it has to be ours, not BC's I believe. I cant see a scenario where Hamilton or Sask doesn't throw their first rounder in too, both of which are ranked higher than our first

If we own the pick, we can bid the pick. That being said, I would imagine that Montreal or Hamilton are likely to bid their picks. We didn't just buy BCs first round pick we also bought their first round supplemental rights.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 15, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
Adam Bighill has been released by the Saints. If he does not go to their PR and cannot find another NFL job he would look pretty good in Blue and Gold.

He'd be a monumental addition on defense.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 12:34:05 PM
He'd be a monumental addition on defense.

With the remainder of Durant's salary off the books now we may be able to squeeze him in. That would sure shut the Rider fans up...lol


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on May 15, 2018, 12:53:35 PM
I don't believe you can use a traded pick for the supplemental draft. It works in reverse order of the draft and the highest bid takes the player. We can bid our #1 pick and the teams below us in this years draft bid after us so their first rounders are worth more than ours. I don't think we have much of a chance as a NI tackle with NFL experience will be on most teams wish list.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 15, 2018, 01:26:55 PM
I don't believe you can use a traded pick for the supplemental draft. It works in reverse order of the draft and the highest bid takes the player. We can bid our #1 pick and the teams below us in this years draft bid after us so their first rounders are worth more than ours. I don't think we have much of a chance as a NI tackle with NFL experience will be on most teams wish list.

Bid our 1st rounder and watch if the other teams picking after us will top our bid.

If they don't, we get the guy.
If one of them do, chances are one (if not two) of our picks will move 1 slot up on next years draft.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 01:45:30 PM
I don't believe you can use a traded pick for the supplemental draft. It works in reverse order of the draft and the highest bid takes the player. We can bid our #1 pick and the teams below us in this years draft bid after us so their first rounders are worth more than ours. I don't think we have much of a chance as a NI tackle with NFL experience will be on most teams wish list.

Bauming has tweeted that the Bombers have been told they cannot bid the BC pick. Almost a no brainer that we will bid our pick....likely won't be enough depending on how gunshy teams are of the supplemental.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2018, 02:09:58 PM
Bauming has tweeted that the Bombers have been told they cannot bid the BC pick. Almost a no brainer that we will bid our pick....likely won't be enough depending on how gunshy teams are of the supplemental.

Nobody knows where their # 1 pick will land for 2019? We look to be set for having a great year but at this point our actual pick could land anywhere from # 1 to # 9. That could be better or worse than the Lions pick.

The key issue is that we actually have 2 1st round picks. In that sense it's a lesser gamble than other teams giving up a 1st rounder.

Not sure why we can't bid the Lions pick if we wanted too but I guess that's the rule regarding supplemental draft.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on May 15, 2018, 02:10:05 PM
Bauming has tweeted that the Bombers have been told they cannot bid the BC pick. Almost a no brainer that we will bid our pick....likely won't be enough depending on how gunshy teams are of the supplemental.

That doesn't make any sense to me, but oh well.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2018, 02:26:01 PM
I think we're likely to pass without making a serious bid anyway. If we were comfortable enough with our Canadian depth to trade out of the first round this year, it's not likely that much has changed in two weeks. There will also be OL blue-chip prospects available in next year's draft too. More tempting to use that money on an import even if we have to wait until NFL camp cut downs in September.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 02:28:40 PM
I think we're likely to pass without making a serious bid anyway. If we were comfortable enough with our Canadian depth to trade out of the first round this year, it's not likely that much has changed in two weeks. There will also be OL blue-chip prospects available in next year's draft too. More tempting to use that money on an import even if we have to wait until NFL camp cut downs in September.

Sometimes a player becomes available that's too good to not take a shot at. Don't know if Johnstone is that guy but I wouldn't rule us out of having interest. He wasn't available when we traded down.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 15, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
Sometimes a player becomes available that's too good to not take a shot at. Don't know if Johnstone is that guy but I wouldn't rule us out of having interest. He wasn't available when we traded down.

I wouldn't rule it out but without knowing him personally I would say it's unlikely for the reasons I stated earlier. If he is a 'can't-miss guy' then we don't have the cards to make that work anyway.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 15, 2018, 02:34:45 PM
I wouldn't rule it out but without knowing him personally I would say it's unlikely for the reasons I stated earlier. If he is a 'can't-miss guy' then we don't have the cards to make that work anyway.

Not sure how many of the OL in the 2018 draft were potential OT's. However the point made is a reasonable one. We drafted other OL this draft and already had Spooner and Speller to contend with on the roster.

Essentially the decision has been made to go with 3 Canadian OL, not 4 for 2018.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 15, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
Worth considering is, if Gray suddenly becomes available. If the Bombers brass thinks that's a strong possibility, maybe they have allocated a budget for him already. And as Walters mentioned on his last presser, he will not come in cheap.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 15, 2018, 03:09:57 PM
Among 2018 Bombers draft class, only Gendron-Demouchel is not currently signed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 15, 2018, 03:14:45 PM
Doubt we will pass on making a legit effort to draft him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
Doesn't matter whose pick we bid, Montreal is bidding their #1 overall pick/spot.  We will bid ours, for sure, just to make sure they expend theirs.  Next conversation.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 03:43:47 PM
Doesn't matter whose pick we bid, Montreal is bidding their #1 overall pick/spot.  We will bid ours, for sure, just to make sure they expend theirs.  Next conversation.



Whose to say who will bid what? I would think we will big something, whether we are outbid remains to be seen. I would imagine no one expects to have the number one pick next year and will all bid assuming that it will be a late first rounder they are giving up. If that is the case then Montreal, IF they want him, will win the bidding. We won't know until we place our bid.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 04:01:37 PM
Whose to say who will bid what? I would think we will big something, whether we are outbid remains to be seen. I would imagine no one expects to have the number one pick next year and will all bid assuming that it will be a late first rounder they are giving up. If that is the case then Montreal, IF they want him, will win the bidding. We won't know until we place our bid.

Technically, we won't know until after Montreal has had the opportunity to bid, and either does or does not. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 04:11:20 PM
Technically, we won't know until after Montreal has had the opportunity to bid, and either does or does not. 


The bids are sealed, handed in and then opened. You must place your top bid first or risk losing out.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on May 15, 2018, 05:08:59 PM
The bids are sealed, handed in and then opened. You must place your top bid first or risk losing out.
Where did you get the sealed bid process from? I thought it was a conference call with all the bidders.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 15, 2018, 05:14:21 PM
and how would you know who wins if you are bidding future draft picks as draft order won't be decided until the end of the season, correct?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 05:21:35 PM
The bids are sealed, handed in and then opened. You must place your top bid first or risk losing out.

I always thought it was a team by team bid, like bridge or spades, where each team gets to beat the previous team's bid... so if no one bids, the last team can bid an 8th rounder... IIRC, when we picked Pohblah, we had to over bid someone else...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on May 15, 2018, 05:40:40 PM
and how would you know who wins if you are bidding future draft picks as draft order won't be decided until the end of the season, correct?

I think they bid in reverse order of last season's finish.  Where the actual draft pick being bid ends up being is not part of the calculus.  So, if the team finishing last place and the team finishing 4 th place both bid a second rounder, the former wins the player. 

I have no source, but I do believe the process is sequential and happens on conference call of some kind.  Whether all the teams can hear what the prior team bid or not, I don't know.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2015/05/19/prospects-up-for-grabs-in-cfl-supplemental-draft/

The guidelines for the supplemental draft are as follows:

Clubs who wish to participate in the Supplemental Draft will be contacted on an individual basis and will be asked to submit their draft selections by order of waiver priority (each Club will be advised of the preceding Club?s bid). For example, Calgary will start the draft with the chance to offer a seventh round pick in the 2016 CFL Draft and move upwards through waiver priority.

The team willing to forfeit the highest original pick in the 2016 draft will get the player, while the process will repeat for the second player in the draft.




Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 05:52:35 PM
This is also important when there are multiple players in the "auction", as you can only bid picks you still have.  So, any you've committed to the first player wouldn't be available for the second if it was a sealed bid system...  so the whole sealed bid system doesn't make any sense...



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 05:52:35 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2015/05/19/prospects-up-for-grabs-in-cfl-supplemental-draft/

The guidelines for the supplemental draft are as follows:

Clubs who wish to participate in the Supplemental Draft will be contacted on an individual basis and will be asked to submit their draft selections by order of waiver priority (each Club will be advised of the preceding Club?s bid). For example, Calgary will start the draft with the chance to offer a seventh round pick in the 2016 CFL Draft and move upwards through waiver priority.

The team willing to forfeit the highest original pick in the 2016 draft will get the player, while the process will repeat for the second player in the draft.




Ok...there you have it...I guess I was mistaken.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 05:53:30 PM
This is also important when there are multiple players in the "auction", as you can only bid picks you still have.  So, any you've committed to the first player wouldn't be available for the second if it was a sealed bid system...  so the whole sealed bid system doesn't make any sense...



Each player is done individually in order of their eligibility Aards. It used to be done on sealed bids...that I know for sure. The current way is far more practical though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 05:56:01 PM
Yes.  But you couldn't if it were "sealed bid"...

I remember the other question was who chooses which players come up first.  That makes a difference because you might want to hold back a higher pick for a player yet to come... or other situations where another team is most certainly saving a pick for a later player, allowing you to underbid knowing they can't use that pick...  so draft order can be a strategic thing as well...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 05:57:33 PM
Yes.  But you couldn't if it were "sealed bid"...

I remember the other question was who chooses which players come up first.  That makes a difference because you might want to hold back a higher pick for a player yet to come... or other situations where another team is most certainly saving a pick for a later player, allowing you to underbid knowing they can't use that pick...  so draft order can be a strategic thing as well...

You are taking the words sealed bid far too literally. It just means that you are not informed about what other teams have bid....and it is how it used to be done. I remember some gnashing of teeth by other GMs because a player went cheaper than they thought and if they had known they would have bid higher. Probably why they changed it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on May 15, 2018, 06:12:12 PM
You are taking the words sealed bid far too literally. It just means that you are not informed about what other teams have bid....and it is how it used to be done. I remember some gnashing of teeth by other GMs because a player went cheaper than they thought and if they had known they would have bid higher. Probably why they changed it.

This, I remember in past years it was definitely a "sealed" bid in that you did not know what other GMs had bid.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 15, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
This, I remember in past years it was definitely a "sealed" bid in that you did not know what other GMs had bid.

For sure that's how it used to be done...I'm glad they changed it. You used to have to give your best bid upfront and hope you were the best one. Most of the time the winning bid overpaid. I remember when we got Waggoner, some people had suggested we overpaid and Walters stated he didn't want to risk not getting him. It came out after a few days that there indeed was another team that had bid their first rounder and everyone celebrated how shrewd a move it was for Walters to make sure he got him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on May 15, 2018, 07:08:53 PM
but, if you don't win a player you don't lose the draft pick, you just can't use that same pick to bid on the next player, right... say the first guy comes up and I bid my 4th round pick, and lose... I keep my 4th round pick to use in the draft but I can't bid my 4th round pick again for guy #2, correct?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 15, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
it resets each round...so if you didn't win...you can use that pick on the next guy


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 07:19:32 PM
but, if you don't win a player you don't lose the draft pick, you just can't use that same pick to bid on the next player, right... say the first guy comes up and I bid my 4th round pick, and lose... I keep my 4th round pick to use in the draft but I can't bid my 4th round pick again for guy #2, correct?

Yes, but if you had to submit sealed bids, you logically couldn't..  unless they did sealed bids on each player, one at a time... which then becomes logistically a nightmare...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 15, 2018, 07:30:11 PM
You are taking the words sealed bid far too literally. It just means that you are not informed about what other teams have bid....and it is how it used to be done. I remember some gnashing of teeth by other GMs because a player went cheaper than they thought and if they had known they would have bid higher. Probably why they changed it.

Yup that's what I remember too. Bidding team doesn't know what the previous teams' bid.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2018, 07:37:40 PM
https://www.cfl.ca/2015/05/19/prospects-up-for-grabs-in-cfl-supplemental-draft/

The guidelines for the supplemental draft are as follows:

Clubs who wish to participate in the Supplemental Draft will be contacted on an individual basis and will be asked to submit their draft selections by order of waiver priority (each Club will be advised of the preceding Club?s bid). For example, Calgary will start the draft with the chance to offer a seventh round pick in the 2016 CFL Draft and move upwards through waiver priority.

The team willing to forfeit the highest original pick in the 2016 draft will get the player, while the process will repeat for the second player in the draft.


Yup that's what I remember too. Bidding team doesn't know what the previous teams' bid.

This is from the noted CFL.CA article in 2015...




Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 16, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
May 15, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the signing of International defensive back Chris Humes and International offensive lineman Na'Ty Rodgers.

The club has also released international defensive back Earl Wolff.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/15/bombers-add-two-release-one-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/15/bombers-add-two-release-one-2/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 16, 2018, 11:42:24 AM
Ed Tait  @EdTaitWFC  17 hours ago

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQx43JU0AA9kjf.jpg)

https://twitter.com/EdTaitWFC/status/996476281071038464 (https://twitter.com/EdTaitWFC/status/996476281071038464)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 16, 2018, 11:47:56 AM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming  20 hours ago
The #Bombers have released National receiver Brett Blaszko. This leaves seven Canadian pass-catchers to battle for a roster spot.

Absent from the #Bombers' camp roster is receiver Chris Givens. The former NFLer made four starts for Winnipeg last year, including the West Semifinal, but he failed to report to minicamp last month and is not expected to come back anytime soon.

It is likely the #Bombers will suspend Givens on Saturday when they are officially able to. We will see what Mike O'Shea has to say about it tomorrow.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 16, 2018, 12:29:11 PM
but, if you don't win a player you don't lose the draft pick, you just can't use that same pick to bid on the next player, right... say the first guy comes up and I bid my 4th round pick, and lose... I keep my 4th round pick to use in the draft but I can't bid my 4th round pick again for guy #2, correct?

You can bid it again.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 16, 2018, 12:30:34 PM
Yes, but if you had to submit sealed bids, you logically couldn't..  unless they did sealed bids on each player, one at a time... which then becomes logistically a nightmare...

Sealed bids just means that you place your bid without knowing what other teams have bid. It's not a hand delivered envelope Aards. Good lord...it's the year 2018....you can have separate sealed bids within a matter of moments over the phone or internet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 16, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming  20 hours ago
The #Bombers have released National receiver Brett Blaszko. This leaves seven Canadian pass-catchers to battle for a roster spot.

Absent from the #Bombers' camp roster is receiver Chris Givens. The former NFLer made four starts for Winnipeg last year, including the West Semifinal, but he failed to report to minicamp last month and is not expected to come back anytime soon.

It is likely the #Bombers will suspend Givens on Saturday when they are officially able to. We will see what Mike O'Shea has to say about it tomorrow.

Kinda figured that Givens wouldn't be back. Thought we would release him actually, but this works out about the same.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2018, 01:10:04 PM
Kinda figured that Givens wouldn't be back. Thought we would release him actually, but this works out about the same.

No surprise about either particularly Givens. Still surprised Lankford is still here.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2018, 01:53:15 PM
No surprise about either particularly Givens. Still surprised Lankford is still here.

Despite the abuse Lankford takes on these boards he is still one of the top kick returners in the league and one of it's fastest players.  He will be cut when another player surpasses him in ability, or he becomes a victim of ratio manipulation.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 16, 2018, 02:43:53 PM
Despite the abuse Lankford takes on these boards he is still one of the top kick returners in the league and one of it's fastest players.  He will be cut when another player surpasses him in ability, or he becomes a victim of ratio manipulation.

That's laughable. Aside from the big issue of ratio as it relates to our DI's  we've got an army of receivers and DB's that may take both his place and Fogg's.

Lankford will have to show giant progress as a receiver IMO to have any chance.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2018, 04:08:57 PM
Two more DB's eliminated from contention, could it be they flunked their medical?
 

Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming 14m14 minutes ago

Winnipeg has transferred International defensive back Travis Howard to the retired list and released International defensive back Ezra Robinson. #Bombers


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 16, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Interesting to see what Johnny Augustine can contribute, I think Wpg. is his third stop.

WPG Blue Bombers

@Wpg_BlueBombers

The team has added running back Jhurell Pressley, receiver Brisly Estime, defensive back Mohammed Seisay and national running back Johnny Augustine.
📝 | http://ow.ly/EuHL30k21J4
9:31 AM - May 16, 2018


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on May 16, 2018, 04:31:26 PM
Two more DB's eliminated from contention, could it be they flunked their medical?
 

Darrin Bauming‏ @DarrinBauming 14m14 minutes ago

Winnipeg has transferred International defensive back Travis Howard to the retired list and released International defensive back Ezra Robinson. #Bombers

More likely that better prospects came available.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 16, 2018, 05:50:37 PM
May 16, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the team has signed international running back Jhurell Pressley, international receiver Brisly Estime, International defensive back Mohammed Seisay and national running back Johnny Augustine.

The team has also transferred defensive back Travis Howard to the retired list and released International defensive back Ezra Robinson.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/16/bombers-add-four/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/16/bombers-add-four/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 16, 2018, 05:53:12 PM
Ed Tait  @EdTaitWFC  2 hours ago
An updated #Bombers training camp position chart:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdVaPUdU8AAN-8a.jpg)

https://twitter.com/EdTaitWFC/status/996802124771143680 (https://twitter.com/EdTaitWFC/status/996802124771143680)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 17, 2018, 05:46:33 PM
Rookie Camp Day One
By Ed Tait

FYI:

Bombers receiver Chris Givens, who dressed for three regular season games and made two starts - three if the West Semi-Final is included - is no longer listed on the team's roster. No decision has been made yet on whether he will be suspended or released out right.

"As of right now, he's not reporting," said O'Shea. "Where we put him or what gets done administratively, I don't know yet."

Meanwhile, the club added three players before camp:

RB Jhurell Pressley (5-10, 205, University of New Mexico) played four seasons with the Lobos, rushing for 2,725 yards and 35 touchdowns. In 2014, Pressley led the nation with a 9.5-yard rushing average, establishing a new Lobo record. Pressley signed as an undrafted free agent with the Minnesota Vikings in 2016.

DB Mohammed Seisay (6-2, 202, University of Nebraska) played two seasons with the Cornhuskers and was named to the Nebraska Scholar-Athlete Honor Roll. Seisay joined the Detroit Lions in 2014 as an undrafted free agent, playing in 13 games.

RB Johnny Augustine (5-9, 202, University of Guelph) played five seasons with the Gryphons, rushing for 2,742 yards and 28 touchdowns on 483 rushes. In his senior year, Augustine rushed for 690 yards and nine touchdowns on 122 carries.

The club also announced the signing of receiver Brisly Estime early in the day, but he promptly failed his physical and was released. The team also transferred defensive back Travis Howard to the retired list and released International defensive back Ezra Robinson.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/16/rookie-camp-day-1/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/16/rookie-camp-day-1/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: PloenFan on May 18, 2018, 12:52:07 AM
Interesting story about Corey Washington:

http://canoe.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/bombers-receiver-hopeful-has-been-through-the-gridiron-grinder/wcm/72ee1677-4bb5-4b8a-9972-3f333be9f666


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on May 18, 2018, 07:09:40 PM
There be a couple of Vet's cut in TC. There is going to be some good battles.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 19, 2018, 11:57:43 PM
May 19, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed International linebacker Adam Bighill to a one-year contract.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/19/bombers-sign-adam-bighill/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/19/bombers-sign-adam-bighill/)

John Hodge   @JohnDHodge    May 19
Adam Bighill's one-year contract with the #Bombers is worth $175,000, per source. Reasonable price for one of the #CFL's best defensive players. #CFL

https://twitter.com/JohnDHodge/status/997969963104251910 (https://twitter.com/JohnDHodge/status/997969963104251910)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 20, 2018, 01:27:38 PM
May 20, 2018 -   The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has extended the contract of the league's Most Outstanding Canadian, Andrew Harris, through the 2020 season.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/20/bombers-sign-andrew-harris-extension-2020/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/20/bombers-sign-andrew-harris-extension-2020/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 20, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
May 20, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international offensive lineman Dillon DeBoer and international defensive back Jordan Thomas.

The team has also transferred receivers Chris Givens and Dominique Reed, and defensive back Eric Patterson to the suspended list, and retired defensive back Tharold Simon.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/20/bombers-add-two-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/20/bombers-add-two-2/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 20, 2018, 01:35:56 PM
May 20, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international offensive lineman Dillon DeBoer and international defensive back Jordan Thomas.

The team has also transferred receivers Chris Givens and Dominique Reed, and defensive back Eric Patterson to the suspended list, and retired defensive back Tharold Simon.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/20/bombers-add-two-2/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/20/bombers-add-two-2/)

Didn't we just sign Simon less than a week ago? It's becoming a good thing we were signing so many DB's since they are going nearly as fast.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 20, 2018, 01:40:24 PM
Didn't we just sign Simon less than a week ago? It's becoming a good thing we were signing so many DB's since they are going nearly as fast.

Yeah, that's a head scratcher. He signed on May 14th.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 22, 2018, 11:20:03 AM
BOMBERS CAMP REPORT - DAY 2

OUCH REPORT:

Not practising on Monday were LB/DB Maurice Leggett, RB Kienan LaFrance, WR Tony Stevens, and DE Trent Corney. And near the end of practice WR Tyrone Pierre, the Bombers fifth-round draft pick earlier this month, pulled up hobbling on a reception and limped off the field.

LaFrance, FYI, will be out at least a week.

"We're just taking it smart," said O'Shea. "We know who he is."

COMINGS/GOINGS:

The Bombers moved DB Zavian Bingham to the retired list on Monday.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/21/training-camp-day-2-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/21/training-camp-day-2-recap/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 22, 2018, 11:52:43 AM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming  10 minutes ago
Here's my #Bombers depth chart as we enter Day 3 of training camp...

A couple notes: I have Fenner ahead of Leggett at the dimeback only because Leggett is still recovering from his Achilles' surgery. When Leggett is healthy - and they will remain patient with him - I see Fenner moving to halfback. #Bombers

At those positions where there are a lot of bodies, namely middle linebacker and defensive back, I've just stacked most of the new guys together. Firlotte has been working with the LBs. Walker, Clarke, Cooper, and Sayles are getting early work with the second-team D. #Bombers

At "the X" Canadian receiver spot, Simonise is already pushing Wolitarsky. This will be a fun battle to watch as camp continues. Washington, Coney, and White are the early leaders amongst the newcomers. #Bombers

There hasn't been a lot of special teams work so far, but we should soon get a better look at some of the candidates who will push Fogg and Lankford for return duties.  #Bombers

Final note; #Bombers 33rd-overall draft pick Arnaud Gendron-Dumouchel is taking summer classes and will return to the University of Montreal this year - the only draft pick who remains unsigned, but Winnipeg will retain his rights. No doubt we'll notice when a 6'9" dude shows up.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ddx6uDGVwAA3uTO.jpg:large)

https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/998904935046631424 (https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/998904935046631424)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on May 22, 2018, 12:32:18 PM
#Bombers add three Internationals this morning; 6?1? 198lb receiver Kenbrell Thompkins, 6?2? 210lb receiver Rueben Randle (NY Giants? 2012 2nd-round draft pick), and 5?9? 180lb defensive back Robert Priester.

The club has released International receiver Tony Stevens.

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Don't recognize most of the names, but holy did we add a guy with experience in Rueben Randle. He was a big part of the Giants offence for a few years.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on May 22, 2018, 12:35:07 PM
#Bombers add three Internationals this morning; 6?1? 198lb receiver Kenbrell Thompkins, 6?2? 210lb receiver Rueben Randle (NY Giants? 2012 2nd-round draft pick), and 5?9? 180lb defensive back Robert Priester.

The club has released International receiver Tony Stevens.

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Don't recognize most of the names, but holy did we add a guy with experience in Rueben Randle. He was a big part of the Giants offence for a few years.
Too bad about Stevens. That being said I honestly have no clue what's happening at receiver. We seem to have 5 rookies who have solid NFL experience or are looking good in camp. Where were these dudes last year?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on May 22, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
Too bad about Stevens. That being said I honestly have no clue what's happening at receiver. We seem to have 5 rookies who have solid NFL experience or are looking good in camp. Where were these dudes last year?

And we keep releasing guys who have reportedly looked really good.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 22, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
Stevens was hurt...so that sealed his fate...that being said...Rueben Randle could be a real gem...big time NFL experience with a couple years close to 1000 yards receiving and very strong hands and possession guy


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on May 22, 2018, 01:04:54 PM
Stevens was hurt...so that sealed his fate...that being said...Rueben Randle could be a real gem...big time NFL experience with a couple years close to 1000 yards receiving and very strong hands and possession guy

Didn't know that. Too bad, but hopefully a couple of these guys can pan out for us.

At least White has been here consistently.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 22, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
and White has been the best of the lot since day 1 of mini camp...and from what i watched there...rookie camp and at TC yesterday...I would say he has been the best of everyone to date all around...vets and rookies


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 23, 2018, 10:53:27 AM
May 22, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms with Canadian defensive tackle Jake Thomas.

Thomas has spent the previous six seasons with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, making 75 defensive tackles and ten sacks in 101 games played (25 starts). In 2017, Thomas had a career high 21 tackles and four sacks. Thomas was originally drafted by the Bombers 29th overall in the 2012 CFL Draft.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/22/bombers-agree-terms-canadian-defensive-tackle-jake-thomas/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/22/bombers-agree-terms-canadian-defensive-tackle-jake-thomas/)

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   17 hours ago
It's a one-year deal for Jake Thomas and the #Bombers. Winnipeg's 29th-overall pick in 2012 had been a free agent until today - now enters his seventh season. Some Canadian stability on interior of D-line next to Ekakitie, especially since Ian Marouf was carted off the field today.
https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/998995998998491137 (https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/998995998998491137)


BOMBERS CAMP REPORT - DAY 3

WELCOME BACK, JAKE:

The Bombers brought back a familiar face on Tuesday, announcing after practice that veteran defensive tackle Jake Thomas would be returning to the club. A draft pick of the Bombers in 2012, Thomas has carved out a solid CFL career since then with 101 regular season games - all in blue and gold - to his credit. He is coming off a season in which he posted a career-high 21 tackles while adding four sacks and his first career interception.

Thomas, who had been a free agent, is one of those unheralded foot soldiers whose contributions aren't lost by those in the locker room.

MORE COMINGS/GOINGS:

In addition to bringing aboard Thomas, Randle and Thompkins, the Bombers also signed defensive back Robert Priester.

Priester (5-9, 180, Wyoming) appeared in 35 games over three seasons at Wyoming, registering 103 tackles and three forced fumbles. He was part of a Cowboys squad that went 8-5 last season.

The club has also released International receiver Tony Stevens, who had been injured early in camp.

OUCH REPORT:

WR Tyrone Pierre, part of the club's 2018 draft class, was on crutches Tuesday after pulling up lame following a reception on Monday. DT Ian Marouf, meanwhile, was carted off the field on Tuesday with an injury. Head coach Mike O'Shea did not have any updates post practice.

WR Drew Wolitarsky is also on the mend, giving rookie Rashaun Simonise more snaps with the No. 1 offence. Also not practising were DL Larry Webster, LB Maurice Leggett, DE Trent Corney and DB Mohammed Seisay.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/22/training-camp-day-3-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/22/training-camp-day-3-recap/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2018, 02:56:27 PM
Ed Tait @EdTaitWFC

One time #Bombers QB Bryan Bennett is back. Not participating today, but here for a workout. Joins Matt Nichols, Alex Ross, Chris Streveler and Zack Mahoney
6:47 AM - May 23, 2018

Should have kept Bennett over Dom Davis the first time!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on May 23, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
Ed Tait @EdTaitWFC

One time #Bombers QB Bryan Bennett is back. Not participating today, but here for a workout. Joins Matt Nichols, Alex Ross, Chris Streveler and Zack Mahoney
6:47 AM - May 23, 2018

Should have kept Bennett over Dom Davis the first time!
Didn't the Riders cut Bennett last year? 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2018, 03:36:59 PM
Didn't the Riders cut Bennett last year? 
Yes but it sounded like he showed well in camp.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 26, 2018, 06:01:16 AM
BOMBERS TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 5
May 24 2018

COMINGS/GOINGS:

The Bombers released Canadian DT Ian Marouf on Thursday. Marouf, a sixth-round draft pick last season, was carted off the field on Tuesday.

OUCH REPORT:

SBs Nic Demski and Daniel Petermann were added to the list of walking wounded on Thursday. That crew now includes LB Maurice Leggett, DE Trent Corney, DL Larry Webster, RB Kienan LaFrance, LB Ian Wild, WR Tyrone Pierre, WR Drew Wolitarsky, DB Mohammed Seisay, WR Corey Washington, and FB John Rush.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/24/training-camp-day-5-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/24/training-camp-day-5-recap/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 26, 2018, 06:04:06 AM
May 25, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has added International quarterback Bryan Bennett and International receiver/returner Charles Nelson.

The team has also released International linebacker Chinedu Oparaku and International defensive lineman Larry Webster.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/25/bombers-add-bennett-nelson/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/25/bombers-add-bennett-nelson/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 28, 2018, 05:25:47 AM
May 26, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has added international running back Jahad Thomas.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/26/bombers-add-rb-thomas/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/05/26/bombers-add-rb-thomas/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 28, 2018, 05:39:25 AM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming    May 25

With subtle changes seemingly every day, here's my latest #Bombers depth chart as we keep a keen eye on the club's daily workouts.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeEncmiV4AAXqM2.jpg:large)

https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/1000124224776876033 (https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/1000124224776876033)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on May 28, 2018, 10:23:07 AM
Why isn't Amaud Gendron-Dumouchel in camp?  He's the super tall OL we just drafted...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on May 28, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Why isn't Amaud Gendron-Dumouchel in camp?  He's the super tall OL we just drafted...
Taking summer courses in uni. and going back for another year anyways


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on May 28, 2018, 11:23:29 AM
Is B. Blazko no longer on the team?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 28, 2018, 11:31:36 AM
Is B. Blazko no longer on the team?

No place for him here.

We got lots of NAT receivers in camp - Demski, Wolitarsky, Simonise, Petermann, Henry, Thera-Plamondon - in all accounts these group is good.
And we may cut 1 or 2 of them.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 29, 2018, 11:29:28 AM
May 28th:
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   23 hours ago

#Bombers have released International running back Jhurell Pressley.
https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/1001098111576489984 (https://twitter.com/DarrinBauming/status/1001098111576489984)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 29, 2018, 11:41:12 AM
In what may be just a paper move, the CFL transaction page shows Mohammed Seisay was transferred to retired on May 26th.

May 26   WPG TRF TO  RETIRED INT Mohammed SEISAY (DB)    Nebraska


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: BomberPride on May 29, 2018, 11:45:48 AM
In what may be just a paper move, the CFL transaction page shows Mohammed Seisay was transferred to retired on May 26th.

May 26   WPG TRF TO  RETIRED INT Mohammed SEISAY (DB)    Nebraska

Really??

Wasn't he impressing in TC?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 29, 2018, 12:03:45 PM
Really??

Wasn't he impressing in TC?
You may be thinking of Sayles. But I believe Seisay is still at camp but was injured for a few days.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 29, 2018, 04:58:54 PM
In what may be just a paper move, the CFL transaction page shows Mohammed Seisay was transferred to retired on May 26th.

May 26   WPG TRF TO  RETIRED INT Mohammed SEISAY (DB)    Nebraska

Has to more than a paper move because he can't practice if he's retired. Might be a nick that prevents him from practicing. If it takes too long to recover chances are his chances of making the roster evaporate.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 29, 2018, 05:20:53 PM
he got hurt on the blocking drill to the bag....kick cover blocking...I seen it happen and looked to be a knee..or hip...at first thought I thought he may have blown out his knee, and too bad as he was impressive


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 29, 2018, 10:53:15 PM
Has to more than a paper move because he can't practice if he's retired. Might be a nick that prevents him from practicing. If it takes too long to recover chances are his chances of making the roster evaporate.

Sounds like a permanent parting to me, whoever came back from the Retired List?  if they just wanted to shuffle him for the short-term I think they would have used the Suspended List first.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 30, 2018, 01:03:27 AM
Sounds like a permanent parting to me, whoever came back from the Retired List?  if they just wanted to shuffle him for the short-term I think they would have used the Suspended List first.

Why wouldn't they just release him outright then? They retain his rights on the retired list but that removes him off the current roster. Once you arrive at TC can they suspend you for an injury? That may be the difference.

No idea what the injury was or whether he'll be back. Can't recall so many players " retiring " during TC!!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 30, 2018, 05:30:48 AM
Why wouldn't they just release him outright then? They retain his rights on the retired list but that removes him off the current roster. Once you arrive at TC can they suspend you for an injury? That may be the difference.

No idea what the injury was or whether he'll be back. Can't recall so many players " retiring " during TC!!!

Yah, I have no clue why all the machinations this year, maybe O'Shea spent the off-season scouring the rule book for roster loopholes.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on May 30, 2018, 11:47:33 AM
Yah, I have no clue why all the machinations this year, maybe O'Shea spent the off-season scouring the rule book for roster loopholes.

This "retirement" fad is not exclusive to the Bombers though, it's CFL-wide.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 30, 2018, 01:55:38 PM
This "retirement" fad is not exclusive to the Bombers though, it's CFL-wide.

Except that the Bombers seem to be having rookies retiring while other teams have veterans retiring. That's the unusual part. OTOH none of those Bombers that have retired have returned.

So again. Zero idea why this is happening. Not concerned just curious if any eventually return after recovering from some injury.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: floyd on May 30, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
So good to see the depth at linebacker this year...  even before Bighill was signed

Can receiver looks good too... everything looks good

Nice to have Thomas/Ekakitie if we need to flip the ratio due to injuries

Weakest spot is maybe OL - only because Couture and Spooner are not 'clearly' proven but sounds like either of them can step up if we need


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 30, 2018, 02:34:58 PM
So good to see the depth at linebacker this year...  even before Bighill was signed

Can receiver looks good too... everything looks good

Nice to have Thomas/Ekakitie if we need to flip the ratio due to injuries

Weakest spot is maybe OL - only because Couture and Spooner are not 'clearly' proven but sounds like either of them can step up if we need

I actually think we are really strong on the Oline.

Where is weak is back up QB right now!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 30, 2018, 02:43:09 PM
I actually think we are really strong on the Oline.

Where is weak is back up QB right now!

I love the fact that our "weakness" is in a position that hopefully never gets a chance to see the field....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: floyd on May 30, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
I actually think we are really strong on the Oline.

Where is weak is back up QB right now!

I'm an Alex Ross fan...  feel like we're in a better position without Durant tbh

Only teams 'set' with QB tandems are Edm and Toronto - everyone else has big question marks either about their backup or their starter


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 30, 2018, 03:10:35 PM
I'm an Alex Ross fan...  feel like we're in a better position without Durant tbh

Only teams 'set' with QB tandems are Edm and Toronto - everyone else has big question marks either about their backup or their starter

Very true and I hope your right for Ross. I hope he is a capable ?manager? at the least.

Secondary as a whole is unproven. Strong talent on paper though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_or_die on May 30, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
I'm actually excited to see if we can develop Streveler!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 30, 2018, 03:15:59 PM
I think Streveler is in a perfect spot to develop...He isn't/doesn't need to be pressed into 2nd string duty before he is ready as I am more than comfortable with Ross there for an in game option, or possibly a start...and Streveler can run the 3rd down gamle stuff and learn as he goes and push for 2nd string next year, then in yr 3 maybe push Nichols for number 1


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 30, 2018, 03:53:39 PM
We may have "unproven" QB depth, but there is no doubt that we have talent there.  Whether they develop, who knows.  But the potential is definitely there. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on May 30, 2018, 04:05:01 PM
Based on what I've seen in camp, I think Ross is a guy we could win some games with if Nichols were to go down.  I've observed Ross progressing as camp moves along.  The biggest thing I like about him is he seems to have a good understating of the offense and makes good, quick decisions.  Now doing that in a game is another story...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 30, 2018, 04:07:27 PM
We may have "unproven" QB depth, but there is no doubt that we have talent there.  Whether they develop, who knows.  But the potential is definitely there. 

That is true for every QB prospect we've ever brought in for as long as I can remember. Depth is really only depth if the person coming in can deliver. If they can't, you don't have depth you just have ineffective backups. I am not trying to criticize Walters or anyone else for the situation we're in at QB, but the reality is if our "unproven QB depth" has to play a lot of football this year, we are probably screwed and definitely hoping for a miracle that probably won't materialize.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 30, 2018, 04:35:55 PM
Based on what I've seen in camp, I think Ross is a guy we could win some games with if Nichols were to go down.  I've observed Ross progressing as camp moves along.  The biggest thing I like about him is he seems to have a good understating of the offense and makes good, quick decisions.  Now doing that in a game is another story...
I'm more interested in the return of Bennett, he's had a couple of years, a couple of training camps and plenty of time off to advance his understanding of the CFL game, hopefully he's healthy enough to participate in the exhibition games.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on May 30, 2018, 08:38:25 PM
I'm more interested in the return of Bennett, he's had a couple of years, a couple of training camps and plenty of time off to advance his understanding of the CFL game, hopefully he's healthy enough to participate in the exhibition games.
I doubt it.  Every practice I've gone to, he is there, but not even wearing a jersey. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on May 30, 2018, 08:41:48 PM
I'm an Alex Ross fan...  feel like we're in a better position without Durant tbh

Only teams 'set' with QB tandems are Edm and Toronto - everyone else has big question marks either about their backup or their starter

DD is loser and we found that out for free.  Development of QBs is always better than caring for the old and fragile vets.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on May 30, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
DD is loser and we found that out for free.  Development of QBs is always better than caring for the old and fragile vets.
That's if the QBs develop of course


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on May 30, 2018, 09:15:20 PM
That is true for every QB prospect we've ever brought in for as long as I can remember. Depth is really only depth if the person coming in can deliver. If they can't, you don't have depth you just have ineffective backups. I am not trying to criticize Walters or anyone else for the situation we're in at QB, but the reality is if our "unproven QB depth" has to play a lot of football this year, we are probably screwed and definitely hoping for a miracle that probably won't materialize.

I mean, most teams if they had to rely on their QB backup for a period of time are going to be just hoping for a wish and a prayer.  Fortunately, you only need to not get last place in the east to move on to the playoffs; or not get second last place in the west.  So I'd say as long as we only have injuries during the season and not during playoff time we should be okay


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on May 30, 2018, 09:24:56 PM
DD is loser and we found that out for free.  Development of QBs is always better than caring for the old and fragile vets.

You mean we found that out for $70k... ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on May 31, 2018, 05:35:24 AM
Yeah durantnis such a loser, he's. Got no money.  If he took it and gave it toa charity, then he could use the argument players are denied signing bonuses all the time.  So this was a revenge move against the establishment.  But we never did anything to him. ....Even threw him a golden opportunity to pretend he still could play QB and he does that!   Dip stick!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 31, 2018, 12:06:53 PM
Yeah durantnis such a loser, he's. Got no money.  If he took it and gave it toa charity, then he could use the argument players are denied signing bonuses all the time.  So this was a revenge move against the establishment.  But we never did anything to him. ....Even threw him a golden opportunity to pretend he still could play QB and he does that!   Dip stick!

He probably realized he is a fat pig and was out of shape so he just retired.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 31, 2018, 12:09:24 PM
I think a lot of it too was he had too much ego....I am not gonnas say pride....to come out out look horrendous and have 2 rookies outperform him


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 31, 2018, 01:18:38 PM
I mean, most teams if they had to rely on their QB backup for a period of time are going to be just hoping for a wish and a prayer.  Fortunately, you only need to not get last place in the east to move on to the playoffs; or not get second last place in the west.  So I'd say as long as we only have injuries during the season and not during playoff time we should be okay

Yes -- but due to circumstances perhaps beyond our control to some degree, our situation is more tenuous than others. All of our backups are complete unknowns. None of them were even in our system last year. Two of them weren't even in the CFL. Probably the reason Bennett was brought in is that he at least has some experience in what we are trying to do. There's a very real ramp-up time for young QBs to even have a chance to be effective. I agree that it's common for backups not to have a lot of real regular season CFL reps. But our 'number two' guy on paper has only been with us since April 19 and has only one CFL year under his belt. If we knew Durant was going to retire, I doubt we'd have moved on from Davis this year. We all want to develop a QB but realistically if we lose Nichols, throwing in a nonprepared Streveler or Mahoney isn't a real option. That leaves Ross and possibly Bennett (who isn't even practicing still). That's asking for a miracle of epic proportions. If you're going to go young and inexperienced at backup QB, which we are now forced to do, you want to have a guy that has at least been in your system for a couple years. We don't even have that. The situation is really bad and we shouldn't think otherwise.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on May 31, 2018, 01:57:36 PM
This is true, but it doesn't change the fact that most teams will lose with their backup. Meaning we may lose by a greater margin but at the end of the day, a team is seldom going to win it all with their backup so the affect on the end result is fairly moot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on May 31, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
I think with how our offence is constructed and the in game strategies, if a back-up has to come in, he doesn't have to be a world beater and just manage the game-plan and take whats there...let the system and the play makers do the rest.

From watching the QB's this mini camp and TC i actually think Ross throws the best ball...and actually seems to have nice pocket presence and can actually progress through reads...something Davis seemed to struggle with. So with his last years experience and not seeing defensive looks for the first time, if he can basically utilize his first couple reads/options I think he will do fine in the short term if pressed into duty...call me not too concerned with our depth


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on May 31, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
WR Nelson retires. Here we go again. Is this the result of players deciding they are way down the depth chart after seeing competition in the CFL. Is it deciding an injury has put them behind the 8 ball?

He was a late add but he sure didn't last long.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 31, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
WR Nelson retires. Here we go again. Is this the result of players deciding they are way down the depth chart after seeing competition in the CFL. Is it deciding an injury has put them behind the 8 ball?

He was a late add but he sure didn't last long.
Happens every year. A bit of a waste.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on May 31, 2018, 09:23:22 PM
May 31 WPG TRF TO  RETIRED INT Charles NELSON (WR)    Oregon

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: krahnic on June 01, 2018, 04:57:51 AM
Why is it so hard to find a depth chart for this team? Even the Depth Chart section on the website still shows 2017 sched and the depth chart links don't seem to work.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on June 01, 2018, 10:27:12 AM
Why is it so hard to find a depth chart for this team? Even the Depth Chart section on the website still shows 2017 sched and the depth chart links don't seem to work.

Because the season hasn?t started and there isn?t one yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 01, 2018, 11:15:43 AM
I think Streveler is in a perfect spot to develop...He isn't/doesn't need to be pressed into 2nd string duty before he is ready as I am more than comfortable with Ross there for an in game option, or possibly a start...and Streveler can run the 3rd down gamle stuff and learn as he goes and push for 2nd string next year, then in yr 3 maybe push Nichols for number 1

I agree with this.  Ross is a little more experienced, give him plenty of snaps and let's see if he is ready to be a legit #2.  As is the case with many BB fans for years, I'm also high on the #3 prospect guy (Strev).  He doesn't need to start yet, hopefully he's content being an understudy for now. Bennett I think was brought in knowing he's injured and wouldn't take time away from Ross right away, more of an insurance plan.  If Ross can't show himself I think Bennett takes his spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 01, 2018, 12:43:21 PM
Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC   23 hours ago
The #Bombers positional roster for tomorrow's preseason game vs Edmonton at IGF
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeiCPV8V4AAfCX9.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 01, 2018, 12:48:29 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   23 hours ago
Here is who the #Bombers expect to dress on Friday vs the #Esks, and then my look at their depth chart for the entire roster.

Notables not expected to dress Friday... Flanders, LaFrance, Wild, Hardrick, Leggett, Alexander, Gaitor, and notable rookies; DT Brandin Bryant, DBs Marcus Sayles and Mohammed Seisay, RECs Tyrone Pierre and Charles Nelson.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeiDfOoUwAM2g0k.jpg)



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 01, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   22 hours ago
Edmonton is bringing their backups to town. Notable absences include; MOP Mike Reilly, Kevin Glenn, CJ Gable, Derel Walker, Duke Williams, Vidal Hazelton Aaron Grymes, JC Sherrit, Almondo Sewell, Kwaku Boateng - not expected to dress. #Bombers

At least we?ll get a look at rush end Alex Bazzie, now back from the NFL.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeiNFXIU0AIjDtg.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 01, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
It's beginning to look like Leggett won't be ready to start the season. Have to see if he is involved in practice next week.  So Fenner probably starting the season at SAM.

I'm wondering what the domino affect then becomes in the secondary. Gaitor is probably leading candidate at strong side DB until Leggett can play. Then one of Leggett or Fenner moves to that spot?

So who wins the weak side CB and DB spots in the short term? A couple of injuries for this week have shifted who were going to have playing this week?
 
With all the new DB's I have no idea who the real leading candidates were going into tonight. Time for players to show whatever they've shown in TC on game day.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 01, 2018, 02:53:21 PM
Cooper is listed as a returner and has had a good camp in the secondary. Will be listening to see who the primary returners seem to be.

Looking forward to the new receivers to see who shines tonight.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 01, 2018, 03:10:33 PM
Anyone know why the Bombers aren't doing a depth chart this year?  I assume this will only be for the pre-season and we will see actual depth charts come regular season? 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Norm W on June 01, 2018, 03:11:12 PM
Looks like Edmonton has decided to leave the offense at home, and not run the risk of losing key pieces to defensive guys trying to win a spot on a roster that looks like it might be a very difficult one to crack.  


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bluengold204 on June 01, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
Anyone know why the Bombers aren't doing a depth chart this year?  I assume this will only be for the pre-season and we will see actual depth charts come regular season? 

Most likely is the case I don't recall a depth chart last year for pre season games either but I am probably wrong.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on June 01, 2018, 03:20:22 PM
Anyone know why the Bombers aren't doing a depth chart this year?  I assume this will only be for the pre-season and we will see actual depth charts come regular season? 

Probably because it's just BS.

Players competing for spots will likely line up in several positions. If Walker is going to be playing CB, HB, and SAM, what's the point in seeing him lined up behind Fogg at HB on a depth chart? It wouldn't mean anything.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 01, 2018, 03:20:42 PM
Most likely is the case I don't recall a depth chart last year for pre season games either but I am probably wrong.
There were always depth charts for TC and pre-season games in past years.  This is the first year I've seen this from the Bombers.  


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:19 PM
Probably because it's just BS.

Players competing for spots will likely line up in several positions. If Walker is going to be playing CB, HB, and SAM, what's the point in seeing him lined up behind Fogg at HB on a depth chart? It wouldn't mean anything.
Every other team has them...why not the Bombers?  It'd be nice to hear reason why from the Bombers. Some people, like yourself, have no use for them, but others find them interesting. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Norm W on June 01, 2018, 03:26:48 PM
I'm going with no depth chart because why do I want to tell everybody in Canada where I think the teams at when I don't have to yet? I want to keep the competition going, I want to see who wants it....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: krahnic on June 01, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
And why don't the links to previous depth charts work anymore? It's like the BB's have gone all cloak and dagger with depth charts this year.  ::) Other teams are all posting them... seems weird.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tehedra on June 01, 2018, 04:14:11 PM
I too thought it was wierd and remember having depth charts available in the past couple years; but didn't figure much of it especially since I can't watch this game anyways.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Colton on June 01, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
And why don't the links to previous depth charts work anymore? It's like the BB's have gone all cloak and dagger with depth charts this year.  ::) Other teams are all posting them... seems weird.

It looks like the only teams that have kept an archive of their depth charts are Edmonton and Hamilton. All other teams have removed previous years from their site.

Since the Bombers haven't actually released a depth chart yet, whoever manages the page may not have had a reason to go in and update theirs to 2018 yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on June 01, 2018, 06:04:56 PM
And why don't the links to previous depth charts work anymore? It's like the BB's have gone all cloak and dagger with depth charts this year.  ::) Other teams are all posting them... seems weird.

This makes me crazy.  Archived depth charts are an invaluable resource in researching my forum argument positions on a variety of issues....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 01, 2018, 07:32:29 PM
This makes me crazy.  Archived depth charts are an invaluable resource in researching my forum argument positions on a variety of issues....
Maybe Ed Tait can chime in on this issue on depth charts...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 01, 2018, 08:30:29 PM
Russ Hobson   @russ_sportsguy  2 hours ago
#Bombers make 3 changes to final roster adding three @WinnipegRifles...Rec. Brendan Naujoks, DL Hayden Ellis, and DB Andrew Ricard. Roster now stands at 73 players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 01, 2018, 08:50:41 PM
this I don't get....why....never gonna make it, and just takes valuable reps away from someone who could do something that makes a difference in being cut, or making it in some regard...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 01, 2018, 08:57:04 PM
this I don't get....why....never gonna make it, and just takes valuable reps away from someone who could do something that makes a difference in being cut, or making it in some regard...
Think big picture and territorial exemption.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 01, 2018, 09:41:31 PM
Russ Hobson   @russ_sportsguy  2 hours ago
#Bombers make 3 changes to final roster adding three @WinnipegRifles...Rec. Brendan Naujoks, DL Hayden Ellis, and DB Andrew Ricard. Roster now stands at 73 players.


Were these guys in TC and just getting a chance to play in a CFL game? Not quite sure of why the late add though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: towelie on June 02, 2018, 07:07:26 AM
this I don't get....why....never gonna make it, and just takes valuable reps away from someone who could do something that makes a difference in being cut, or making it in some regard...

PR has to be worth something, in terms of "recruiting home grown talent" and growing the younger uni followers. But still I agree with your point.

PS: Sad to miss camp this year Booch. Your reports have been much appreciated. Hopefully i'll be back out there again next year


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 02, 2018, 12:20:29 PM
Haven't seen anyone talking about the young Canadian kicker (Felix Menard Briere).  I remember he did real well in camp last year to the point we kept him for a bit before he went back to college.  I also remember other teams sniffing around trying to aquire him.  Yesterday on the radio the guys were saying he even had an NFL guy looking at him.  Punting is his strength, but he's doing good so far on PK too.  If we need to cut salary, or replace an injured Canadian starter does FMB play over Medlock??  Crazy to think, but can we PR him without losing him?  Can he go back to college?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 02, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
Haven't seen anyone talking about the young Canadian kicker (Felix Menard Briere).  I remember he did real well in camp last year to the point we kept him for a bit before he went back to college.  I also remember other teams sniffing around trying to aquire him.  Yesterday on the radio the guys were saying he even had an NFL guy looking at him.  Punting is his strength, but he's doing good so far on PK too.  If we need to cut salary, or replace an injured Canadian starter does FMB play over Medlock??  Crazy to think, but can we PR him without losing him?  Can he go back to college?

If he can't go back to school maybe they 1 game IR him with his ELC. He may be the longer term future for the team.

Do we end up putting him on the 44 AR as the punter potentially. He seems to have a very strong leg. Is he a good directional kicker?

Keeping him on the PR might be a bit risky and he might not even accept a PR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Nic16 on June 02, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Paying FMB his full ?AR? salary while on the PR to keep him around Medlock all year would be money very well spent!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 02, 2018, 02:42:28 PM
Paying FMB his full ?AR? salary while on the PR to keep him around Medlock all year would be money very well spent!

Then you may as well put him on the 1 game IR. He can practice and he remains a Bomber. No need to PR him then.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Tiger on June 02, 2018, 03:13:31 PM
Medlock will retire soon - we need to keep the kid if he is good.  I?m not sure one way or the other.  I?ll leave that to the coaches.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on June 02, 2018, 03:25:06 PM
Our young National kicker has a little work to do but could come in if needed. If he sticks with the bombers he will probably start next year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on June 02, 2018, 03:30:59 PM
Our young National kicker has a little work to do but could come in if needed. If he sticks with the bombers he will probably start next year.

I wasn?t too impressed with him, but it?d be nice to keep him around Medlock for a year and see what happens.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: KINGCHARLES on June 02, 2018, 04:08:51 PM
Medlock will retire soon - we need to keep the kid if he is good.  I?m not sure one way or the other.  I?ll leave that to the coaches.
random stat, Medlock has attempted  138 FG's in 2 years as a Bomber kicker, the previous 3 years of his CFL career he attempted 152.

Some kickers are capable of playing till they are 40+ yrs old. Medlock will be 35 before the end of the season and has hinted at retirement after each of the last 2 seasons. That may only be because the seasons didn't have the outcome he expected. We could potentially have him for 1 last season or up to 5 more seasons, I pray he wants to play up to 5 more years as long as he can kick at the 80-89% range he should play as long as he can.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on June 02, 2018, 04:16:31 PM
Agree, age sn't as important a number as productivity, couldn't care how old our kicker is as long as he's making he s making his kicks


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 02, 2018, 05:10:17 PM
random stat, Medlock has attempted  138 FG's in 2 years as a Bomber kicker, the previous 3 years of his CFL career he attempted 152.

Some kickers are capable of playing till they are 40+ yrs old. Medlock will be 35 before the end of the season and has hinted at retirement after each of the last 2 seasons. That may only be because the seasons didn't have the outcome he expected. We could potentially have him for 1 last season or up to 5 more seasons, I pray he wants to play up to 5 more years as long as he can kick at the 80-89% range he should play as long as he can.


It's more to do with the SMS hit, the ratio and whether Medlock actually wishes to continue playing. IIRC he gave some thought to retiring this off season. He's also on a 1 year deal isn't he? So nothing is guaranteed. Doesn't hurt to have a plan B on the roster when you can.

Some posters suggested this may have been a negotiating tactic but he is well paid so I'm not sure that's the case.

In any case we'll see what happens with the youngster regardless of whether Medlock plays 1 year or 5.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Horseman on June 02, 2018, 05:18:07 PM
Were these guys in TC and just getting a chance to play in a CFL game? Not quite sure of why the late add though.

Junior players are exempt and have been at TC from the start. They are there for the experience and will be sent back to junior. Getting to play in a CFL game is basically their 15 minutes of fame.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on June 02, 2018, 07:53:05 PM
FMB should stick with the team as P this year, and let Medlock concentrate on K...  will take a load off Medlock, and get FMB some needed mentoring / seasoning time...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 02, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
FMB should stick with the team as P this year, and let Medlock concentrate on K...  will take a load off Medlock, and get FMB some needed mentoring / seasoning time...

Are you going to claw back some of Medlock's salary if he isn't punting? I say let Medlock do everything as rostering FMB would mean removing a receiver,7th olineman or linebacker type special teamer.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 02, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
Are you going to claw back some of Medlock's salary if he isn't punting? I say let Medlock do everything as rostering FMB would mean removing a receiver,7th olineman or linebacker type special teamer.

Lots of teams use two roster spots for kickers in exactly this way. I'm not expecting to roster a 7th OL on the 44 AR this year so we have a potential spot available. Could be used for an extra kicker or extra RB.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on June 03, 2018, 02:11:19 AM
BiBC raises an interesting point about how we use our spots for 20 NIs on the roster. Let's assume Goossen, Chungh, Neufeld, Harris, Loffler, Demski and Wolitarsky as the 7 starters for now. Couture as the 6th OL. Rempel as our LS. Mike Miller as a ST ace. Derek Jones, Rashun Simonise, Daniel Peterman, Thomas Miles, Jesse Briggs, Jake Thomas, Faith Ekatkikie, LaFrance or Augustine and I've left two spots which could be interesting who takes them.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 03, 2018, 02:50:37 AM
BiBC raises an interesting point about how we use our spots for 20 NIs on the roster. Let's assume Goossen, Chungh, Neufeld, Harris, Loffler, Demski and Wolitarsky as the 7 starters for now. Couture as the 6th OL. Rempel as our LS. Mike Miller as a ST ace. Derek Jones, Rashun Simonise, Daniel Peterman, Thomas Miles, Jesse Briggs, Jake Thomas, Faith Ekatkikie, LaFrance or Augustine and I've left two spots which could be interesting who takes them.

I assume an import LB as a DI. Regardless of who it is ( let's say Wild ) that guy will be a big ST player. That's more than I would expect from a Gauthier or Renard for example. Miles is capable of playing LB in a back up role.

I've mentioned it before but Rush is listed as a FB but if either of LaFrance or Augustine can block ( which reports suggest they can ) then wouldn't the 2nd RB be a better option than Rush. Both can run, block, catch and be an offensive threat while backing up or rotating with Harris for different looks.

Hence my suggestion that both of those guys could be on the roster at the expense of Rush as the example. Our 6 OL could still be used occasionally when we go with a TE. Neufeld and Couture both did that last year.

All that would still leave one open spot for a Canadian. It's all a question of what's the best option. IMO it's the player that does the most things with the least amount of risk.

A 7th OL is not a horrible idea but chances are he sees the field seldom if at all. So in game you'd have to have 2 OL injured. It can happen but that's where Thomas getting some reps is the emergency guy.

A 4th Canadian receiver or DB that can play ST's could be used as another option. But the Canadian kicker might be a guy they want to give some time in regular season games being used when game conditions allow. That's not a choice we've had in the past.

It's nice to have some young up and coming Canadians with potential in our depth this year.
 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 03, 2018, 01:41:31 PM
He's talking about the 21 Nationals, Wild wouldn't be one of them  ;)

I don't know if we need 4 National WR, I'd have Petermann on PR if the other 3 are healthy, that opnes up a spot for Rush who is versatile (FB/LB/ST), and I'd make sure Felix MB is also one of the 21.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on June 03, 2018, 01:47:09 PM
He's talking about the 21 Nationals, Wild wouldn't be one of them  ;)

I don't know if we need 4 National WR, I'd have Petermann on PR if the other 3 are healthy, that opnes up a spot for Rush who is versatile (FB/LB/ST), and I'd make sure Felix MB is also one of the 21.

If they use a guy like Coney as a DI returner, he can also back up INT receivers.  If they don?t, then it is likely they dress two NTL receivers to back up all 5 positions.

I don?t see Felix making the AR, we are paying Medlock too much (and using a DI spot) for him not to be doing all 3 jobs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 03, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
He's talking about the 21 Nationals, Wild wouldn't be one of them  ;)

I don't know if we need 4 National WR, I'd have Petermann on PR if the other 3 are healthy, that opnes up a spot for Rush who is versatile (FB/LB/ST), and I'd make sure Felix MB is also one of the 21.

I know Wild is an import. The point is that we don't need 3 or 4 Canadian LB's to play ST's when all our imports excel at ST's.

I agree we may not decide to have 4 Canadian receivers but that's another choice.

Not trying to pick on Rush but I'm not sure what he's capable of after 2017. I'm not certain he had one game rep at FB and he has no ST's. He may have a different role on ST's but I'm not clear on what it is.

You say he's versatile but he has no DT's, ST's or touches offensively. He's transitioning from defense in university to offense. Others have done that and he may have good upside. I'm just not sure but at this point would have to rank near the bottom of our current Canadian roster.

We have to make some room for others drafted this season. Doesn't mean he can't make the roster or should be cut but we have some young talent and can't keep all of them.

He may have upside but does he really have a role on the 44 AR that can't be better filled. I'd probably choose the 4th Canadian receiver over Rush at the moment.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 03, 2018, 02:16:49 PM
If they use a guy like Coney as a DI returner, he can also back up INT receivers.  If they don?t, then it is likely they dress two NTL receivers to back up all 5 positions.

I don?t see Felix making the AR, we are paying Medlock too much (and using a DI spot) for him not to be doing all 3 jobs.

We're going to start 2 Canadian receivers so we need to have at least 3 on the 44 AR. At this point it's not certain we have room for an import receiver as a DI. I hope we are able to do that but we'll see.

I'm not too concerned about how much Medlock earns in regard to him giving up a partial role in transition.

Menard could be kept on the 1 game IR ( he might be lost if we PR him ). OTOH I'm not opposed to see him on the AR making a few game rep opportunities.

The 1st question is he a better directional punter than Medlock? Medlock has struggled with that in the past. Does he have better hang time? As I mentioned it's not unusual to have 2 kickers on the roster. Even when one is highly paid.

It's just another choice that may or may not make.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 03, 2018, 02:49:24 PM
So if there is a 44 man game roster, how do the 2 reserve players work?  Does this mean it's actually a 46 man roster, but 2 are scratched before game time?  That could be where Rush/FBM/Petermann etc get stached.
I would hope we have a DI WR, but it'd either be Langford/Coney, someone who could backup an Internatonal WR & return kicks.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 03, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
So if there is a 44 man game roster, how do the 2 reserve players work?  Does this mean it's actually a 46 man roster, but 2 are scratched before game time?  That could be where Rush/FBM/Petermann etc get stached.
I would hope we have a DI WR, but it'd either be Langford/Coney, someone who could backup an Internatonal WR & return kicks.

Yes it means a 46 man roster. The extra 2 men can be activated game day one hour before game time. The Bombers have tended to have 1 NI OL and 1 import OL. So that would mean Spooner and Foketi at the moment if we don't actually keep 7 OL on the 44 AR.

It can change game to game potentially. For example if one of the import receivers was nicked was a game day decision they might add a receiver to the 2 man reserve that could be activated game day if necessary. The OL would then be moved to the 1 game IR.

So the norm is to have a player there that might need to be activated game day.

OTOH I've never understood why they don't dress all 46 players. The fly in the ointment is the ratio context and how that would work.

We'll certainly see some players added to the 1 game IR. Players we want to retain and would be at risk of losing on the the PR. However that still has an SMS implication that has to be managed.

I wouldn't put Peterman on the PR for example. Some team would try and take him. At worst I'd 1 game IR him so he can still practice.  That said I fully expect he makes the 44 AR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on June 03, 2018, 03:49:37 PM
Rush may be listed as a fullback but he's on the roster strictly as a ST player. Which is fine, all teams have them. I suspect they go 4 NI receivers since two are starting just to have depth and to deal with injuries but I could be wrong. I do agree with BiBC that Peterman will not be on the PR but would be stashed on the 1 game injured list to prevent another team from stealing him away.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: krahnic on June 03, 2018, 04:57:08 PM
We're going to start 2 Canadian receivers so we need to have at least 3 on the 44 AR. At this point it's not certain we have room for an import receiver as a DI. I hope we are able to do that but we'll see.

I'm not too concerned about how much Medlock earns in regard to him giving up a partial role in transition.

Menard could be kept on the 1 game IR ( he might be lost if we PR him ). OTOH I'm not opposed to see him on the AR making a few game rep opportunities.

The 1st question is he a better directional punter than Medlock? Medlock has struggled with that in the past. Does he have better hang time? As I mentioned it's not unusual to have 2 kickers on the roster. Even when one is highly paid.

It's just another choice that may or may not make.
I think that's a risk they'll take. If they've told FMB that he's likely next kicker if he sticks around when Medlock retires, then even if other teams sniff around he's likely to stay. There are also a few other kickers with CFL experience hanging around out there not currently on a roster, which would also help. Think they have enough other talent they'd like to keep that FMB will be PR'ed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 03, 2018, 07:38:50 PM
Rush may be listed as a fullback but he's on the roster strictly as a ST player. Which is fine, all teams have them. I suspect they go 4 NI receivers since two are starting just to have depth and to deal with injuries but I could be wrong. I do agree with BiBC that Peterman will not be on the PR but would be stashed on the 1 game injured list to prevent another team from stealing him away.

I think that's the case, however, it means we don't really have a FB per se. Not that we use one that often. So does that open the door for a 7th OL. Do we have a DL that might be a " William Perry " fridge guy on a few plays?

There are a bunch of options and different players that could be used. I suppose even Harris could be blocker on some plays while LaFrance lines up as a RB. All RB's block at times. Lining them up a little differently at times gives the defense more to think about.

Down and distance, field position and game situation are all factors that make up part of the game plan. It's a what do we do " if " this or that is the situation.

We'll have lots of weapons that's for sure. Exactly who make up the 46 AR will be interesting. A few potential starters are nicked so a couple of guys may start the season on the game IR as well.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on June 04, 2018, 01:33:58 AM
The offensive weapons are exciting for sure. Bowman and Adams looked like they can be a lethal duo on Friday and then you add in Harris, Dressler, Demski et all and man totally excited.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 04, 2018, 11:17:39 AM
Can anyone tell me the last time we had a player plucked from our PR, or even if it's commonplace on other teams?  I've been under the impression it was an unwritten rule you don't take a player from another teams PR. Sports are so competitive now though, so....

Is this mostly just a worry for fans? 

Another question is if a prospect goes back to college, do we retain their rights?  So that they are not listed on any PR, and can't be stolen by another team?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
Can anyone tell me the last time we had a player plucked from our PR, or even if it's commonplace on other teams?  I've been under the impression it was an unwritten rule you don't take a player from another teams PR. Sports are so competitive now though, so....

Is this mostly just a worry for fans? 

Another question is if a prospect goes back to college, do we retain their rights?  So that they are not listed on any PR, and can't be stolen by another team?

It was reported that BC tried to poach Spooner last year, but if I recall correctly, he turned down their contract offer to stay on our PR...  it is the players option to take a contract offer, they do not have to.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 04, 2018, 11:34:49 AM
If that is true, then it is a legit fear.  I wonder how Spooner would feel about that offer this year, as he's most likely heading back on the PR?

Unless promised a starting spot (unlikely) he'd be better off here as any injury to Neuf/Goose/Chungh/Couture and he dresses.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on June 04, 2018, 11:57:07 AM
Spooner will be on the 46, likely the 2 man reserve getting full pay.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 04, 2018, 11:58:10 AM
Spooner will be on the 46, likely the 2 man reserve getting full pay.
That was Foketi's role last year.  Do you see having 2 OL's in that role this season?  I think one might be an IR candidate. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 04, 2018, 12:07:29 PM
last year tho we dressed Neufeld AND Couture on the 44 man roster...now with Neufeld now starting we could see Couture and Spooner as the 2 on the 44


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2018, 01:22:07 PM

WPG Blue Bombers@Wpg_BlueBombers

The team has released defensive back Steven Clarke.


Have to think this is so that he can try to catch on elsewhere...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 04, 2018, 01:24:01 PM

WPG Blue Bombers@Wpg_BlueBombers

The team has released defensive back Steven Clarke.


Have to think this is so that he can try to catch on elsewhere...

Wasn't really paying attention to him specifically but still not good enough, I guess?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on June 04, 2018, 02:03:34 PM

WPG Blue Bombers@Wpg_BlueBombers

The team has released defensive back Steven Clarke.


Have to think this is so that he can try to catch on elsewhere...
We have a ton of young guys still in the secondary who have potential. I liked Clarke but I doubt he wouldve taken a PR spot


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 04, 2018, 02:15:05 PM
Wasn't Clarke just in an article saying he wants to show that he's one of the best DB's in the league?  I thought he'd be in tough, but didn't expect a release already.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 04, 2018, 02:33:37 PM
I'm not surprised to hear that Clarke has been released. It appears we have some young rookie talent fighting for positions and something had to give. Might also be a bit of SMS savings with one of the new guys.

This might also indicate that a couple of the rookies that were nicked have recovered and will need to get some playing time this week.

EDIT: That said it is a bit surprising that he was cut before a few of the rookies. The 1st cut and only cut so far after the exhibition game on Friday?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 04, 2018, 02:50:15 PM
Wasn't Clarke just in an article saying he wants to show that he's one of the best DB's in the league?  I thought he'd be in tough, but didn't expect a release already.
Shocking!  They just interviewed Clarke yesterday, usually they will not feature a player in an interview that they intend to cut, this is a paradigm shift! 

I think it will be difficult to find a replacement who shows better than Brian Walker.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 04, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
Ya, it would have been real tough to get both Walker and Clarke on the AR.  I wonder if Seisay/Sayles would take a PR job?  I hope Cooper does.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 04, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
Shocking!  They just interviewed Clarke yesterday, usually they will not feature a player in an interview that they intend to cut, this is a paradigm shift! 

I think it will be difficult to find a replacement who shows better than Brian Walker.

Its quite likely the decision wasn't made yet.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2018, 04:08:43 PM
Has there been any word of whether he asked for his release?  Or if it was a mutual decision?  Things are pretty competitive here, he will probably get a job elsewhere fairly easily, heck Cauchy Muamba found a spot ;) ...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 04, 2018, 04:31:27 PM
Has there been any word of whether he asked for his release?  Or if it was a mutual decision?  Things are pretty competitive here, he will probably get a job elsewhere fairly easily, heck Cauchy Muamba found a spot ;) ...
Doubt very much he asked for his release. Lo

Watch his interview from yesterday, he was looking forward to this Friday's game against the Lions.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2018, 05:00:39 PM
Doubt very much he asked for his release. Lo

Watch his interview from yesterday, he was looking forward to this Friday's game against the Lions.

If they sat him down, and told him that he might end up being cut, or offered a PR spot, the option of looking now for another roster spot elsewhere might be a lot easier than waiting until next week...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 04, 2018, 05:02:22 PM
Watch Edm pick him up for just a couple weeks.....


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 04, 2018, 05:30:31 PM
Ya, it would have been real tough to get both Walker and Clarke on the AR.  I wonder if Seisay/Sayles would take a PR job?  I hope Cooper does.

Taking this with a grain of salt. While I give Walker credit for a good camp showing improvement since his rookie season, I don't know he's a lock to make the roster. Walker and Alexander were discussed at length prior to TC during the off season. There were more than a few posters suggesting immediate release of both players.

Not to say posters were right in their suggestions one way or the other.

There seem to be some rookies getting high praise but so did Carmichael going into 2017 season.

So still waiting to see how this shakes out.

Seisay retired last week. Might have been a paper shuffle while he's unable to practice. Don't know if he'll be back or what's going on with him.

Sayles or Cooper probably would be willing to take PR's but you never know. At the moment we can't rule out anything from outright release to making the AR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on June 04, 2018, 07:15:42 PM
Walker has a year under his belt. This help him understand how the CFL is played and what he had to work on in the winter. Walker looks bigger this year, and he always had great speed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on June 04, 2018, 08:10:21 PM
Sometimes DBs take time. In about 2000, Riders have Omar Morgan, Ladouphous McCalla and another DB starting as rookies. Lots of growing pains that year but it eventually payed off. Could be the same with Walker and Alexander.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 04, 2018, 08:47:58 PM
Walker has a year under his belt. This help him understand how the CFL is played and what he had to work on in the winter. Walker looks bigger this year, and he always had great speed.

So did Clarke who had a few more games than Walker and Alexander under his belt. Just putting things in perspective.

Walker might end up starting. Our improvements on the DL and LB's will help the defense overall. I was opposed to not giving him an opportunity to improve in TC 2018. So it's true he might turn out to be a very good DB.

Not all players are great season one.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 04, 2018, 10:03:19 PM
it will be great to see Walker and Alexander progress this season (I hope)

many called for their heads, I call for patience


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 04, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
it will be great to see Walker and Alexander progress this season (I hope)

many called for their heads, I call for patience

Sure but nothing wrong with finding the next Aaron Grymes or Tommie Campbell either. All of Cooper, Sayles and Seisay have had moments as well. Fogg seems to have improved too.

Who is ahead of who is what the coaches will decide with Sunday's cuts. If Leggett is healthy either he or Fenner will be at strong side DB. Gaitor might have the other DB spot.

So where anyone fits is an interesting puzzle still being evaluated. If Alexander or Walker don't win a starting spot outright will either accept a PR?


Earlier I didn't think Fogg would even make the roster. Now he might be fighting to start. Things can change on a dime.

Those going to TC practices might give us a better idea of who's working on the 1st team defense at the moment.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 04, 2018, 10:21:48 PM
Winnipeg Blue Bombers Transactions - June 2, 2018 
WINNIPEG, MB., June 2, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has transferred international receiver Charles Nelson to the retired list.


Winnipeg Blue Bombers Transactions - June 4, 2018
WINNIPEG, MB., June 4, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has released international defensive back Steven Clarke.

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
Spoke to #Bombers DB Steven Clarke yesterday. He was pleased with his INT and performance in Friday's preseason tilt. Clarke was released today. Likely a combo of his (probably) marginally-higher veteran pay, and the DB depth on display here all camp.

Mohammed Seisay returned to the field for the first time today. A long, 6'2" frame highlights his physical tools. The DB hopes to play vs B.C. this Friday. Mike O'Shea says it's been a very good camp for both the level of play and the depth amongst their defensive backs.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 05, 2018, 06:59:13 AM
BOMBERS TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 16
Ed Tait

COMINGS/GOINGS:

The Bombers released veteran DB Steven Clarke on Monday, just a couple of days after he picked off a pass and had a pass knock-down in the pre-season win over Edmonton. Clarke appeared in 25 games over four seasons with the B.C. Lions, but his release speaks volumes of the remaining competition at defensive back in camp.

That crew includes imports Chris Randle, Brian Walker, Brandon Alexander, Anthony Gaitor, Tyneil Cooper, Chris Humes, Robert Priester, Marcus Sayles, Mohammed Seisay and Jordan Thomas - and either Chandler Fenner or Maurice Leggett, depending on who starts at the strong-side linebacker/dime spot. As well, the club has Canadians Taylor Loffler, Derek Jones, Kahlen Branning, Abu Conteh, Jacob Firlotte and Brendan Morgan in the defensive backfield.

Here's Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea on the decision to release Clarke:

"We wanted to give the other guys a bigger opportunity and when you have a veteran player in front of them and you've got the urge to play him for a half in the next game, you're really limiting the number of reps that you get to see these younger guys.

"There are some young guys in training camp that have made some pretty impressive plays that are getting healthy now that we really want to take a harder look at."

One of those young guys is Seisay, the 6-2, 203-pound product of Nebraska who has had stints with the Detroit Lions (2014) and Seattle Seahawks (2015-16) and just returned to practice this week after missing time with an injury.

"He's long. We like his athleticism," said O'Shea. "I'm glad he gets back on the field and gets a couple practices under his belt before this next game so that we can see what he can do."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/06/04/training-camp-june-4-recap/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/06/04/training-camp-june-4-recap/)

Current list of DB's

Maurice Leggett      I    re-signed Feb 6 2018
Chris Randle           I    re-signed Jan 23 2018 
Kevin Fogg             I    re-signed Feb 12 2018
Brandon Alexander   I    signed April 17 2017 
Brian Walker           I    signed May 22 2017
Anthony Gaitor       I    signed Feb 1 2018 
Chandler Fenner      I    signed Feb 13 2018
Tyneil Cooper         I    signed Apr 19 2018   
Marcus Sayles        I    signed May 8 2018   
Chris Humes           I    signed May 15 2018   
Mohammed Seisay   I    signed May 16 2018
Jordan Thomas       I    signed May 20 2018
Robert Priester       I     signed May 22 2018   
Taylor Loffler         N    signed  May 23 2016   
Derek Jones           N    re-signed Nov 20 2017   
Kahlen Branning      N    signed  Nov 2 2017 
Abu Conteh           N    signed Dec 11 2017   
Brendan Morgan      N    signed Jan 24 2018   
Jacob Firlotte         N    signed May 10 2018   


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2018, 11:21:26 AM

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2018, 11:23:02 AM

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 08, 2018, 11:33:19 AM
June 7 roster news:

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
Mike O'Shea announces #Bombers QB Matt Nichols will be out 4-6 weeks

Mike O'Shea said Matt Nichols will be placed on 6-game injured list. Hope to have him back earlier.

Darrin Bauming  @DarrinBauming
Breaking: Matt Nichols will miss 4-6 weeks with a right knee injury, according to #Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea. The coach is confident it will not be longer than that timeline. Nichols will begin the season on the 6-Game IL, but can come off after four.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 09, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers   6 minutes ago
The team has announced the following transactions.

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on June 10, 2018, 12:28:58 AM
Walker has a year under his belt. This help him understand how the CFL is played and what he had to work on in the winter. Walker looks bigger this year, and he always had great speed.
He was released


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 10, 2018, 02:39:51 AM
He was released

While this is unfortunate, it speaks to our ability to find new faces that fit better in our system

This alone tells me that our depth on DB just got much better than last year.  Good luck in your career Walker and thanks for the time as a Bomber.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on June 10, 2018, 02:44:23 AM
While this is unfortunate, it speaks to our ability to find new faces that fit better in our system

This alone tells me that our depth on DB just got much better than last year.  Good luck in your career Walker and thanks for the time as a Bomber.
Whatever happened to "developing and being patient will be worth it"?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 10, 2018, 02:59:31 AM
Whatever happened to "developing and being patient will be worth it"?

I stand by what I said, developing players and having patience with them is a corner stone to any good sports team.   I guess you wanted to have him gone last year year right? Would that have made any sense?  Nope.

It's great the Bombers kept him around to see if he could win a job.  He lost out.  That's ok and a very good sign that the talent we have is at least slightly better than last year.  I like how you tried to pull one from my "eat crow" playbook here but it's not working.  You were wrong so often last year it was pretty sad.  I'm not saying I'm always right and yes I would liked to see this guy develop but I also trust management and our coaches.  We are progressing and I will still preach patience with our group of young players.  It has worked our well with Alexander so far.  This guy have been worth the investment.  It's too bad Walker didn't pan out but it doesn't mean that he is a bad football player.  Either he wan't ready or didn't fit into our ball club.  I has never in love with the guy but I strong feel that you rarely get better by deletion (especially when you don't have anyone to replace the player that leaves).  In this case we had a body in camp that was better.  This is great thing.  It was pretty clear in BC, when he got beat that he wouldn't make the club.  He still struggled with the same stuff as last year.  Dunigan mentioned him I think at half time and how he didn't cover well enough on that play.

Keep trying to take stabs just like you did last year.  I really hope it makes you feel like a real winner!  It was fun then and will be fun this year.  You are so predicable and so rarely bang on that it's just great fun.  And, this is a good way to get your post count up!  That might make you look more respectable! LOL

You notice in my post about Walker, that I thanked him for his time here.  Might want to try a little more respect when you post things.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on June 10, 2018, 03:14:31 AM
I stand by what I said, developing players and having patience with them is a corner stone to any good sports team.   I guess you wanted to have him gone last year year right? Would that have made any sense?  Nope.

It's great the Bombers kept him around to see if he could win a job.  He lost out.  That's ok and a very good sign that the talent we have is at least slightly better than last year.  I like how you tried to pull one from my "eat crow" playbook here but it's not working.  You were wrong so often last year it was pretty sad.  I'm not saying I'm always right and yes I would liked to see this guy develop but I also trust management and our coaches.  We are progressing and I will still preach patience with our group of young players.  It has worked our well with Alexander so far.  This guy have been worth the investment.  It's too bad Walker didn't pan out but it doesn't mean that he is a bad football player.  Either he wan't ready or didn't fit into our ball club.  I has never in love with the guy but I strong feel that you rarely get better by deletion (especially when you don't have anyone to replace the player that leaves).  In this case we had a body in camp that was better.  This is great thing.  It was pretty clear in BC, when he got beat that he wouldn't make the club.  He still struggled with the same stuff as last year.  Dunigan mentioned him I think at half time and how he didn't cover well enough on that play.

Keep trying to take stabs just like you did last year.  I really hope it makes you feel like a real winner!  It was fun then and will be fun this year.  You are so predicable and so rarely bang on that it's just great fun.  And, this is a good way to get your post count up!  That might make you look more respectable! LOL

You notice in my post about Walker, that I thanked him for his time here.  Might want to try a little more respect when you post things.
I'm just sayin, last season your excuse for us putting up with him was "developing" him. Obviously it didnt work out. Notice how you need to type a paragraph for a kne sentence response.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on June 10, 2018, 03:26:48 AM
I'm just sayin, last season your excuse for us putting up with him was "developing" him. Obviously it didnt work out. Notice how you need to type a paragraph for a kne sentence response.

I love to talk! LOL

We had to put up with him for two reasons:

1. We didn't have anyone else
2. Bombers likely thought he showed enough to keep him on the rosters

I was and am ok with the above.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 10, 2018, 10:33:36 AM
Roster before the cuts:
                                                                                Contract length                            Salary
Matt Nichols             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017             2018   2019                             420 000
Alex Ross                 QB   I   signed Apr 19 2018                 2018   2019*
Chris Streveler          QB   I   signed May 4 2018                  2018   2019
Zack Mahoney          QB   N   signed May 11 2018                2018   2019
Bryan Bennett           QB   I  signed May 25 2018                 2018*

Andrew Harris           RB   N    extended May 20 2018            2018   2019   2020                    195 000
Timothy Flanders       RB   I    re-signed Nov 29 2017             2018
Jahad Thomas           RB   I   signed May 26 2018                 2018   2019
Kienan LaFrance        RB   N   signed Feb 13 2018                 2018                                        80 000
Johnny Augustine       RB  N   signed May 16 2018                 2018   2019*
John Rush                FB   N   (re-) signed Dec 13 2016          2018
Mike Miller                FB   N    signed Mar 3 2017                  2018

Darvin Adams           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017              2018   2019
Weston Dressler       WR   I   re-signed Dec 19 2017              2018   
Ryan Lankford          WR   I   signed Nov 10 2017                  2018
Myles White             WR   I   signed Nov 11 2017                  2018   
Adarius Bowman        WR   I   signed Feb 9 2018                   2018                                      140 000 
Corey Washington     WR   I    signed Feb 20 2018                 2018   2019
A.J. Coney               WR   I   signed Mar 15 2018                  2018   2019
Donteea Dye            WR   I    signed May 10 2018                 2018   2019
Kenbrell Thompkins    WR   I   signed May 22 2018                  2018   2019
Rueben Randle          WR   I    signed May 22 2018                 2018   2019
Drew Wolitarsky       WR   N   signed Oct 5 2017                    2018
B Thera-Plamondon   WR   N   signed Dec 11 2017                  2018   2019*
Tylor Henry             WR   N    signed Jan 24 2018                  2018   2019*
Nic Demski              WR   N    signed Feb 13 2018                  2018                                     150 000
Rashaun Simonise     WR   N    signed May 11 2018                 2018   2019   2020
Tyrone Pierre           WR   N    signed May 14 2018                 2018   2019*
Daniel Petermann      WR   N    signed May 14 2018                 2018   2019*

Stanley Bryant         OL   I   re-signed Dec 12 2017                 2018   2019                            200 000
Jermarcus Hardrick    OL   I   extended Nov 16 2017                2018
Manase Foketi          OL   I   re-signed Dec 26 2017                2018   2019
Na'Ty Rodgers          OL   I   signed May 15 2018                    2018   2019
Dillon DeBoer            OL   I   signed May 20 2018                    2018   2019
Matthias Goossen      C   N   extended Dec 16 2015                 2018
Sukh Chugh             OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017                 2018
Patrick Neufeld         OL  N   extended Nov 16 2017                 2018   2019
Michael Couture       OL   N   signed May 23 2016                    2018                                       75 000
Cody Speller            OL   N   signed Dec 11 2017                    2018   2019*
Qadr Spooner          OL   N    re-signed                                 2018   2019*
M Ouellet De Carlo    OL   N   signed May 10 2018                    2018   2019*
Ben Koczwara          OL   N   signed May 10 2018                    2018   2019*

Justin Medlock           K   I   re-signed Nov 30 2017                 2018
Felix Mernard-Briere    K   N  signed May 14 2018                     2018   2019*                                     
Chad Rempel            LS   N  re-signed Dec 19 2016                 2018

Drake  Nevis            DT   I   re-signed Dec 28 2017                 2018         
Cory Johnson           DT   I   singed May 24 2017                    2018
Daniel Awoleke         DT   I   signed Dec 29 2017                    2018   2019
Faith Ekakitie           DT   N  signed May 1 2017                      2018   2019                              88 000
Jake Thomas            DT   N   signed May 22 2018                   2018
Sam Montgomery      DL   I   signed Jan 18 2018                     2018   2019
Chris Casher            DL   I   signed Jan 18 2018                      2018   2019
Brandin Bryant         DL   I   signed May 10 2018                      2018   2019
Tristan Okpalaugo     DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017                       2018                                      178 000
Jackson Jeffcoat      DE    I    signed Feb 21 2017                    2018
Craig Roh                DE   I    signed Feb 16 2018                     2018   2019
Trent Corney           DE   N    signed May 24 2016                   2018

Ian Wild                  LB   I    re-signed Jan 8 2018                   2018           
Jovan Santos-Knox   LB   I    signed July12 2017                      2018
Jevaris Jones            LB   I    signed Nov 11 2017                    2018   
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I     re-signed                                 2018   2019*   
Quentin Gause          LB   I     signed Apr 16  2018                   2018   2019
Adam Bighill              LB  I      signed May 19 2018                   2018                                      175 000
Jesse Briggs             LB   N    re-signed Feb 13 2017                2018
Shayne Gauthier       LB   N    signed May 23 2016                    2018
Thomas Miles           LB   N    signed Mar 4 2017                      2018
Frank Renaud           LB   N     re-signed                                 2018   2019*
Maurice Leggett       DB   I    re-signed Feb 6 2018                   2018         

Chris Randle             DB   I    re-signed Jan 23 2018                 2018   2019     
Kevin Fogg               DB   I     re-signed Feb 12 2018               2018           
Brandon Alexander     DB   I     signed April 17 2017                  2018
Brian Walker             DB   I     signed May 22 2017                   2018
Anthony Gaitor          DB   I     signed Feb 1 2018                     2018   2019
Chandler Fenner        DB   I      signed Feb 13 2018                   2018   2019                          130 000
Tyneil Cooper           DB   I      signed Apr 19 2018                    2018   2019
Marcus Sayles          DB   I     signed May 8 2018                     2018   2019
Chris Humes             DB   I     signed May 15 2018                    2018   2019
Mohammed Seisay     DB   I     signed May 16 2018                    2018   2019
Jordan Thomas         DB   I     signed May 20 2018                    2018   2019   
Robert Priester         DB   I     signed May 22 2018                    2018   2019 
Taylor Loffler           DB   N    signed  May 23 2016                   2018
Derek Jones             DB   N     re-signed Nov 20 2017               2018   2019
Kahlen Branning        DB   N     signed  Nov 2 2017                    2018
Abu Conteh             DB   N     signed Dec 11 2017                    2018   2019*
Brendan Morgan       DB   N     signed Jan 24 2018                     2018   2019*
Jacob Firlotte          DB   N      signed May 10 2018                    2018   2019*

* contract length is not confirmed

Suspended List:
Chris Givens            WR   I   signed Oct 19 2017                transferred on May 20 2018
Dominique Reed        WR   I   signed Apr 9 2018                  transferred on May 20 2018
Eric Patterson          DB   I    signed Jan 11 2018                transferred on May 20 2018


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 10, 2018, 10:34:48 AM
Roster after the cuts:

Current roster:
                                                                                Contract length                            Salary
Matt Nichols             QB   I   re-signed Jan 18 2017             2018   2019                             420 000
Alex Ross                 QB   I   signed Apr 19 2018                 2018   2019*
Chris Streveler          QB   I   signed May 4 2018                  2018   2019
Bryan Bennett           QB   I  signed May 25 2018                 2018*

Andrew Harris           RB   N    extended May 20 2018            2018   2019   2020                    195 000
Timothy Flanders       RB   I    re-signed Nov 29 2017             2018
Kienan LaFrance        RB   N   signed Feb 13 2018                 2018                                        80 000
Johnny Augustine       RB  N   signed May 16 2018                 2018   2019*
Mike Miller                FB   N    signed Mar 3 2017                  2018

Darvin Adams           WR   I   re-signed Jan 16 2017              2018   2019
Weston Dressler       WR   I   re-signed Dec 19 2017              2018   
Ryan Lankford          WR   I   signed Nov 10 2017                  2018
Adarius Bowman        WR   I   signed Feb 9 2018                   2018                                      140 000 
Kenbrell Thompkins    WR   I   signed May 22 2018                  2018   2019
Drew Wolitarsky       WR   N   signed Oct 5 2017                    2018
Nic Demski              WR   N    signed Feb 13 2018                  2018                                     150 000
Rashaun Simonise     WR   N    signed May 11 2018                 2018   2019   2020
Daniel Petermann      WR   N    signed May 14 2018                 2018   2019*

Stanley Bryant         OL   I   re-signed Dec 12 2017                 2018   2019                            200 000
Jermarcus Hardrick    OL   I   extended Nov 16 2017                2018
Manase Foketi          OL   I   re-signed Dec 26 2017                2018   2019
Matthias Goossen      C   N   extended Dec 16 2015                 2018
Sukh Chugh             OL  N   extended Feb 14 2017                 2018
Patrick Neufeld         OL  N   extended Nov 16 2017                 2018   2019
Michael Couture       OL   N   signed May 23 2016                    2018                                       75 000
Qadr Spooner          OL   N    re-signed                                 2018   2019*

Justin Medlock           K   I   re-signed Nov 30 2017                 2018
Felix Mernard-Briere    K   N  signed May 14 2018                     2018   2019*                                     
Chad Rempel            LS   N  re-signed Dec 19 2016                 2018

Drake  Nevis            DT   I   re-signed Dec 28 2017                 2018         
Cory Johnson           DT   I   singed May 24 2017                    2018
Jake Thomas            DT   N   signed May 22 2018                   2018
Brandin Bryant         DL   I   signed May 10 2018                      2018   2019
Tristan Okpalaugo     DE   I   signed Feb 9 2017                       2018                                      178 000
Jackson Jeffcoat      DE    I    signed Feb 21 2017                    2018
Craig Roh                DE   I    signed Feb 16 2018                     2018   2019
Trent Corney           DE   N    signed May 24 2016                   2018

Ian Wild                  LB   I    re-signed Jan 8 2018                   2018           
Jovan Santos-Knox   LB   I    signed July12 2017                      2018
Adam Bighill              LB  I      signed May 19 2018                   2018                                      175 000
Jesse Briggs             LB   N    re-signed Feb 13 2017                2018
Shayne Gauthier       LB   N    signed May 23 2016                    2018
Thomas Miles           LB   N    signed Mar 4 2017                      2018
Frank Renaud           LB   N     re-signed                                 2018   2019*
Maurice Leggett       DB   I    re-signed Feb 6 2018                   2018         

Chris Randle             DB   I    re-signed Jan 23 2018                 2018   2019     
Kevin Fogg               DB   I     re-signed Feb 12 2018               2018           
Brandon Alexander     DB   I     signed April 17 2017                  2018
Anthony Gaitor          DB   I     signed Feb 1 2018                     2018   2019
Chandler Fenner        DB   I      signed Feb 13 2018                   2018   2019                          130 000
Taylor Loffler           DB   N    signed  May 23 2016                   2018
Derek Jones             DB   N     re-signed Nov 20 2017               2018   2019
Brendan Morgan       DB   N     signed Jan 24 2018                     2018   2019*

* contract length is not confirmed

Practice Roster:
John Rush                FB   N   (re-) signed Dec 13 2016           signed to PR June 9 2018
Tylor Henry             WR   N    signed Jan 24 2018                  signed to PR June 9 2018
Cody Speller            OL   N   signed Dec 11 2017                   signed to PR June 9 2018
Corey Washington     WR   I    signed Feb 20 2018                  signed to PR June 9 2018
Kyrie Wilson             LB   I     re-signed                                signed to PR June 9 2018   
Tyneil Cooper           DB   I      signed Apr 19 2018                 signed to PR June 9 2018
Marcus Sayles          DB   I     signed May 8 2018                   signed to PR June 9 2018
Robert Priester         DB   I     signed May 22 2018                  signed to PR June 9 2018

Suspended List:

Chris Givens            WR   I   signed Oct 19 2017                transferred on May 20 2018
Dominique Reed        WR   I   signed Apr 9 2018                  transferred on May 20 2018
Eric Patterson          DB   I    signed Jan 11 2018                transferred on May 20 2018


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 10, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   25 minutes ago
#Bombers depth following 25 cuts. We can expect Nichols, Leggett, Wild, and LaFrance to begin the season in the Injured List, plus a few others. Still room for two more on the Practice Roster.

Six new projected starters for 2018 - Fenner, Gaitor, Roh, Bighill, Bowman, Demski.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfVYV7aV4AAhOl4.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 01:37:22 PM
I have defensive starters as: Loeffler, Fogg, Alexander, Randel, Fenner, Gaitor, Santos-Knox, Baghill, Jeffcoat, Opo, Nevis, Johnson

offensive starters: Ross, Bryant, Neufield, Gossssen, Chungh, Hardrick, Adams, Dressler, Bowman, Demski, Petermann, Harris

DI: Medlock, Rempel, Roh, Lankford

Reserve: Thompkins, Renaud

Injured: Nichols, Leggett, Flanders, Menard-Briere, Wild, LaFrance

To maintain ratio this is about all I could see happening. Besides QBs the only other import standing on the sidelines will be Foketi

National players in bold...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on June 10, 2018, 01:45:06 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   25 minutes ago
#Bombers depth following 25 cuts. We can expect Nichols, Leggett, Wild, and LaFrance to begin the season in the Injured List, plus a few others. Still room for two more on the Practice Roster.

Six new projected starters for 2018 - Fenner, Gaitor, Roh, Bighill, Bowman, Demski.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfVYV7aV4AAhOl4.jpg)
All of our new starters are FA acquisitions. Scouting? We don't need no stinkin' scouting.  ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 01:52:39 PM
All of our new starters are FA acquisitions. Scouting? We don't need no stinkin' scouting.  ;)

Really, you don't... We're looking at everybody that wants to play in the CFL, some teams get the call earlier, probably due to agent relationships would be my guess. And I'm sure that we've made inquiries to some players that just don't want to play in the CFL for whatever reason or are down with ball completely... Look at our camps, they bring virtually everyone that shows and signs of playing. I'd be concerned if we were seeing our camp goes being cut and then going on to other teams and succeeding...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 01:54:05 PM
I have defensive starters as: Loeffler, Fogg, Alexander, Randel, Fenner, Gaitor, Santos-Knox, Baghill, Jeffcoat, Opo, Nevis, Johnson

offensive starters: Ross, Bryant, Neufield, Gossssen, Chungh, Hardrick, Adams, Dressler, Bowman, Demski, Petermann, Harris

DI: Medlock, Rempel, Roh, Lankford

Reserve: Thompkins, Renaud

Injured: Nichols, Leggett, Flanders, Menard-Briere, Wild, LaFrance

To maintain ratio this is about all I could see happening. Besides QBs the only other import standing on the sidelines will be Foketi

National players in bold...

Well that's wrong.

1. Remple is a Canadian.
2. Foketi will be on the 2 man reserve.
3. Spooner might be on the 2 man reserve.
4. If lines 2 and 3 don't happen then there would be 8 OL on the 44 AR. Not likely. 7 maybe if Spooner stays on 44 AR.


It the IR list is correct that leaves Thompkins and B. Bryant on the AR over Leggett and Wild from a ratio point of view.  Not sure that is the plan since it leaves no DB or LB as DI's.

EDIT: It appears Menard Briere was released according to another string comment.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DarkDays on June 10, 2018, 01:58:48 PM
I definitely question some of the non-cuts.  Walters/MOS might be afraid of losing chemistry from last year.

One name on today's cuts jumped out at me.  Travis Bond.  I know there's gonna be interest around the league.  Am I the only one that feels having him back, especially with young QBs starting the year, make Bond worthy of pursuit?  He was missed in preseason.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 02:00:19 PM
I definitely question some of the non-cuts.  Walters/MOS might be afraid of losing chemistry from last year.

One name on today's cuts jumped out at me.  Travis Bond.  I know there's gonna be interest around the league.  Am I the only one that feels having him back, especially with young QBs starting the year, make Bond worthy of pursuit?  He was missed in preseason.

Won't work with the ratio. Where would you start another Canadian to get him on the roster starting?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on June 10, 2018, 02:05:51 PM
I definitely question some of the non-cuts.  Walters/MOS might be afraid of losing chemistry from last year.

One name on today's cuts jumped out at me.  Travis Bond.  I know there's gonna be interest around the league.  Am I the only one that feels having him back, especially with young QBs starting the year, make Bond worthy of pursuit?  He was missed in preseason.

How would you adjust the ratio to make this happen?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 02:09:11 PM
Well that's wrong.

1. Remple is a Canadian.
2. Foketi will be on the 2 man reserve.
3. Spooner might be on the 2 man reserve.
4. If lines 2 and 3 don't happen then there would be 8 OL on the 44 AR. Not likely. 7 maybe if Spooner stays on 44 AR.


It the IR list is correct that leaves Thompkins and B. Bryant on the AR over Leggett and Wild from a ratio point of view.  Not sure that is the plan since it leaves no DB or LB as DI's.

EDIT: It appears Menard Briere was released according to another string comment.

never said it was 'right', just 'mine'... much easier to complete a roster with your style of commitment...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on June 10, 2018, 02:14:13 PM
All of our new starters are FA acquisitions. Scouting? We don't need no stinkin' scouting.  ;)

Without looking at this years acquisitions, look at how many of our starters are through our own scouting. You don?t want rookies in your line up. That?s a bad thing.

Alexander, Jeffcoat, Santos-Knox, Johnson, Fogg, etc. We?ve brought them in and have them time on the PR and as back ups and are earning their way into the lineup.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 02:19:32 PM
they can't all be superstars, league structure doesn't allow for it... free agency, 1 year contracts, SMS cap, ratio, national pay... you can't keep all of the good ones anyway, it's a revolving door, and has to be in order to stay under cap... only exception are 1st time contract guys and you'll only keep them the 2 yrs before you have to cut them or someone else in order to be able to afford them...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 02:46:16 PM
never said it was 'right', just 'mine'... much easier to complete a roster with your style of commitment...

Even yours should have the understanding of player's nationality. You didn't take into account all of the players still on the roster or the cumulative ratio.

So everyone is entitled to their own opinion of how that breaks down but you still have to account with ratio and players remaining. Some understanding of the DR and how teams assemble rosters is useful.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 02:51:45 PM
Without looking at this years acquisitions, look at how many of our starters are through our own scouting. You don?t want rookies in your line up. That?s a bad thing.

Alexander, Jeffcoat, Santos-Knox, Johnson, Fogg, etc. We?ve brought them in and have them time on the PR and as back ups and are earning their way into the lineup.

I would have expected 2 import rookies to win roster spots on the 44 AR in a given season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 02:59:15 PM
Even yours should have the understanding of player's nationality. You didn't take into account all of the players still on the roster or the cumulative ratio.

So everyone is entitled to their own opinion of how that breaks down but you still have to account with ratio and players remaining. Some understanding of the DR and how teams assemble rosters is useful.

I have 21 nationals, 20 imports, 3 QBs, 4 on the DI, and 2 on reserve, less than 11 on the PR, and 6 on the IR... and yes I made a mistake on one of my DI positions... sue me.. at least I'm making an effort to contribute content other than 'you're wrong'...  and like I said, it's a lot easier to complete when your vision only includes maybes, would, could, should have, etc...

and, being wrong from time to time is part of the learning process... I have absolutely no problem with that or putting myself out there...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:00:00 PM
Injuries: Ok we're speculating which players are going onto IR based on best reports available. It seems we're on the same page for most of the walking wounded.

Waiting to see whether some like Neufeld and Hardrick practice this week or are 1 game IR candidates? If so that shifts the DR guys back on the AR ( Spooner and Foketi ) as the guesses.

Really disappointed that Leggett appears headed to the IR and concerned it might be a 6 game IR.

Can't understand the Wild situation at all. What was his injury in TC and how long will he be gone?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: KINGCHARLES on June 10, 2018, 03:04:02 PM
Won't work with the ratio. Where would you start another Canadian to get him on the roster starting?
Could use Jake Thomas as a starting DT and rotate him with Poop.
If you have to maintain the ratio in game, Poop comes in Corney comes in Roh goes out?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:07:18 PM
I have 21 nationals, 20 imports, 3 QBs, 4 on the DI, and 2 on reserve, less than 11 on the PR, and 6 on the IR... and yes I made a mistake on one of my DI positions... sue me.. at least I'm making an effort to contribute content other than 'you're wrong'...  and like I said, it's a lot easier to complete when your vision only includes maybes, would, could, should have, etc...

and, being wrong from time to time is part of the learning process... I have absolutely no problem with that or putting myself out there...

You didn't account for Foketi except mentioning he'd be standing on the sidelines. He's an import that needed to be accounted for and you failed to actually do so. Either he's on the 46 AR, IR or released.

You've called Bighill, Baghill a couple of times now IIRC.

You didn't account for B. Bryant in any way.

So learning curve aside you we're wrong oh sensitive one.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
I have defensive starters as: Loeffler, Fogg, Alexander, Randel, Fenner, Gaitor, Santos-Knox, Baghill, Jeffcoat, Opo, Nevis, Johnson

offensive starters: Ross, Bryant, Neufield, Gossssen, Chungh, Hardrick, Adams, Dressler, Bowman, Demski, Petermann, Harris

DI: Medlock, Rempel, Roh, Lankford, Foketi

Reserve: Thompkins, Renaud

Injured: Nichols, Leggett, Flanders, Menard-Briere, Wild, LaFrance

To maintain ratio this is about all I could see happening. Besides QBs the only other I have zero imports standing on the sidelines will be Foketi

National players in bold...

fixed it...

disclaimer: it may, and probably is, still wrong


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:10:41 PM
You didn't account for Foketi except mentioning he'd be standing on the sidelines. He's an import that needed to be accounted for and you failed to actually do so. Either he's on the 46 AR, IR or released.

You've called Bighill, Baghill a couple of times now IIRC.

You didn't account for B. Bryant in any way.

So learning curve aside you we're wrong oh sensitive one.

mine looks a lot more correct than your submission...oh that's right, you didn't put one out there...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on June 10, 2018, 03:12:47 PM
I would have expected 2 import rookies to win roster spots on the 44 AR in a given season.

We?ll see how it shakes out, but right now don?t we have Bryant, Streveler, and Thompkins on the AR?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:12:59 PM
fixed it...

disclaimer: it may, and probably is, still wrong

Yep. Still wrong. Foketi is the least likely to be a DI. Poor use of the DI position for an import OL. Not what we've used a DI for that I can ever recall.

If Lankford is a DI than I think B. Bryant a most probable player. After cutting Ekakitie we might want another DT for the rotation and injury.

All of this assumes we don't re-add a DB or LB from the PR this week.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:14:42 PM
Yep. Still wrong. Foketi is the least likely to be a DI. Poor use of the DI position for an import OL. Not what we've used a DI for that I can ever recall.

If Lankford is a DI than I think B. Bryant a most probable player. After cutting Ekakitie we might want another DT for the rotation and injury.

All of this assumes we don't re-add a DB or LB from the PR this week.

like I said, more correct than your submission... still got that toaster oven over in the corner for ya if you're interested, lol...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:17:49 PM
We?ll see how it shakes out, but right now don?t we have Bryant, Streveler, and Thompkins on the AR?

Yes but we also have 7 extra players right now. QB's are sort of a revolving door for the past few years. Streveler is certainly a rookie but we cut all our back ups. In a sense he didn't beat out a veteran and I'm not sure if he's # 1 or # 3 at the moment.  I was referring more to starters having beaten out veterans.

B.Bryant might actually make the 44 AR partially due to cutting Ekakitie and needing more depth at DT. OTOH that would give us 2 DI's on the DL and none at DB and LB.

That's where I'm struggling trying to figure out what happens this week as players are shuffled to IR or PR and back to AR possibilities.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
mine looks a lot more correct than your submission...oh that's right, you didn't put one out there...

And your roster has 30 players on it and still couldn't resolve all the imports. Go figure. I clarified what was wrong with that list of 30. In case you forgot the entire AR is 46 players. The IR is limitless.

I've got a toaster oven. So another error. Make that an espresso machine please.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:23:46 PM
And your roster has about 30 players on it and still couldn't resolve all the imports. Go figure.

home schooled, for sure... did you not read that my roster includes 21 nationals, 20 imports, 3 QBs, and 2 reserve players... plus 5 on the IR and 8 on the PR... I listed my starters and other roster designations, an intelligent person would know that the balance of my roster is made up of those not cut as noted above in prior comments... I'll draw you a picture if that will help...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
Could use Jake Thomas as a starting DT and rotate him with Poop.
If you have to maintain the ratio in game, Poop comes in Corney comes in Roh goes out?

That assumes Poop is a DI. You can't add another import to the grand total. In theory Roh is already a DI on the DL.

Do you really want Thomas as a nearly full time starter in order to get Bond back at LG? What about the SMS that was expected and the domino impact on the OL? Neufeld back to # 6 and Couture as # 7, Spooner # 8?

We were already struggling with our 7 Canadian starters and you're effectively suggesting benching one in favour of Bond.

Those are the reasons we let him go in free agency. No room at the inn unfortunately.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 10, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
OK, let me take a stab at it (my first time, so be gentle!)

Nationals:  
Harris, Augustine, Miller, Petermann, Simonese, Wolitarsky, Neuf, Goosen, Chungh, Couture
JT, Corney, Briggs, Miles, Gauthier, Renaud, Morgan, Loffler, Jones, Rempel, FMB

Internationals:
Adams, Bowman, Dress, Lankford, Thompkins, Byrant
OKP, Roh, Nevis, CJ, Bryant, JC, JSK, Bighill, Fenner, Alexander, Fogg, Gaitor, Randle, Medlock

Reserve:  Foketi, Spooner

IR:  
Lafrance when healthy gets cut or pushes Augustine to PR
Demski slots back in at WR and pushes Woli to PR
Hardrick....does Bryant get dropped?
Flanders   cut him or one of Lang/Thomp
Leggett when healthy pushes Alexander to PR?
Wild when healthy is there still a spot for him?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:36:37 PM
home schooled, for sure... did you not read that my roster includes 21 nationals, 20 imports, 3 QBs, and 2 reserve players... plus 5 on the IR and 8 on the PR... I listed my starters and other roster designations, an intelligent person would know that the balance of my roster is made up of those not cut as noted above in prior comments... I'll draw you a picture if that will help...

Sure I read that but your analysis of starters, reserve, IR suggestions didn't take into account key issues.

The number of imports still on the roster and where they go. Opinion is one thing and you could have suggested Foketi and B. Bryant going to IR and that would have been closer to an opinion.

Having a Canadian as a DI would mess up even that as pure ratio math though. So it's not the opinion I'm challenging, it's the understanding of the accounting aspect of the ratio I challenged.

To that end I did clarify some of the likely possibilities.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:42:16 PM
OK, let me take a stab at it (my first time, so be gentle!)

Nationals:  
Harris, Augustine, Miller, Petermann, Simonese, Wolitarsky, Neuf, Goosen, Chungh, Couture
JT, Corney, Briggs, Miles, Gauthier, Renaud, Morgan, Loffler, Jones, Rempel, FMB

Internationals:
Adams, Bowman, Dress, Lankford, Thompkins, Byrant
OKP, Roh, Nevis, CJ, Bryant, JC, JSK, Bighill, Fenner, Alexander, Fogg, Gaitor, Randle, Medlock

Reserve:  Foketi, Spooner

IR:  
Lafrance when healthy gets cut or pushes Augustine to PR
Demski slots back in at WR and pushes Woli to PR
Hardrick....does Bryant get dropped?
Flanders   cut him or one of Lang/Thomp
Leggett when healthy pushes Alexander to PR?
Wild when healthy is there still a spot for him?

Are Demski and Hardrick actually injured and headed to IR? If so wouldn't Foketi be moved to AR?

Until we see the IR list on Wednesday it's difficult to account for all the moving pieces.

I'm a little surprised that Renaud and Morgan are still on the roster but possibly better than other choices available.  Releasing Ekakitie opened up a roster spot. I was hoping Branning would make an impression and stick.  FMB was released though so not sure who gets added or not moved to IR?

When Leggett returns he might push Alexander to elsewhere on the roster. Maybe 1 game IR. OTOH the DI's can change week to week depending on who is injured and best combination.

I'm not even sure that Flanders isn't released yet. As much as I like him I'm not sure if their is a role he can fill within the ratio that makes sense. Could be a short term question after we see what Augustine and LaFrance when healthy bring to the table.

Wild is the big question. What the heck is his injury and why aren't we using an import LB as a DI even if not Wild?

I think I WAS gentle with you wasn't I?



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:45:09 PM
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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:51:35 PM
Blue in BC: I would have deleted that idiotic reply too if I would have been you, lol...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 10, 2018, 03:52:02 PM
Do we know for sure FMB was released with no PR?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 03:52:15 PM
you can't have people thinking you made a mistake, lol...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:55:07 PM
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Oh so close. Renaud is a Canadian and you still missed B Bryant. Other than that looks pretty good.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 10, 2018, 03:55:37 PM
you can't have people thinking you made a mistake, lol...

Chevy...I count 21 Internaionals on your AR?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
Do we know for sure FMB was released with no PR?

Don't know. It was just a comment in another string made by gbill IIRC. He might be headed to PR.

EDIT: He does now show as released over on CFL.CA


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 03:58:03 PM
Chevy...I count 21 Internaionals on your AR?

22 if you count Renaud but we'll have at least one on the 2 man DR so that would be correct.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: RebusRankin on June 10, 2018, 03:59:22 PM
Teams don't use a DI spot on OL which I believe Chevelle has done with Foketti. Pretty good otherwise though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on June 10, 2018, 04:01:28 PM
Foketi isnt going to be a DI. I think we did that with Devin Tyler years ago but its really the worst way to use a DI spot


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 10, 2018, 04:09:23 PM
Roster has been updated. 52 players in total on the AR. 29 imports and 23 Canadians.

So, many changes yet to come, mostly on the import side.

If Spooner goes to 2 man reserve:  LaFrance to IR that resolves the Canadian roster.

If Foketi goes to 2 man reserve: Nichols, Flanders, B. Bryant, Thompkins, Lankford Leggett and Wild are candidates to resolve the Import roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 05:26:22 PM
I missed B. Bryant because evidently the CFL site doesn't list him on our roster as I cut and pasted my starting point from there. The Bomber site would have been more correct, I'm sure, but, the CFL site doesn't include pictures of the players and makes it a ton easier to import. Sure didn't want to have to type all of that. I crossed checked it with the Bomber site but didn't catch that as I probably saw "Bryant" and assumed Stanley... my bad for being in a hurry... but duly noted... hence my reason by ignoring BIBC comment related to Bryant, lol..

As for the other oversights, it was originally meant to be a conversation starter and a starting point to make corrections to based upon related conversation. I've only been here 10 months and would never claim to think I know the in's and out's of the theory behind who you DI or put on a Reserve Roster. I learn by the critique provided by the members here to gather a more 'informed' opinion of who goes where and why. Heck, I'm still baffled as why there is a need for DI or RR to be quite honest, or than having a roster that appears to have more national positions than import. It would seem a lot less complicated without them because now it's more of a 'wink and a nod' in my opinion.

So, with all of that, I do appreciate the feedback.. thx!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 05:29:50 PM
my spreadsheet is missing... is it gone for everyone else too? that's odd, I know in the past other had issues seeing images I posted from time to time but this is the first time that I couldn't see them as well, especially when I could see it to begin with...hmmm... oh well, I'll relocate it and post again... sorry about that...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: swansong on June 10, 2018, 05:47:53 PM
being wrong from time to time is part of the learning process... I have absolutely no problem with that or putting myself out there...

"A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value."

- Isaac Asimov


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 10, 2018, 06:02:01 PM
Why do so many people think Demski is injured?  As far as I know he is expected to start week 1. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DarkDays on June 10, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Sorry to drop an idea 2 pages ago and run. life happens.

if the price is right, putting travis bond at guard, and going with thomas on the d line would be worth it.

The o-line solidified when we got bond.  It allows you a good spot to target when running between tackles.  He?s agile, mobile and hostile on running plays.  He changed the range of play calling with his presence.

On D, Bighill gives you the kind of pursuit and intelligence at linebacker  that allows you to ?go canuck? on the line.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 10, 2018, 06:12:06 PM
Why do so many people think Demski is injured?  As far as I know he is expected to start week 1. 

He is good to go!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
updated spreadsheet...

moves have the player number 'yellow'... in order to make it work, I had to bring back Spooner from the PR in order to get my ratio correct and placed 2 imports on the IR...

with the info provided on cuts and availability of players based upon nationality, there is much room for change other than moving 1 player on and off the AR to IR of the same nationality, basically...

(https://justclockit.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/roster-2018a.png?w=1024)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 06:32:55 PM
"A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value."

- Isaac Asimov

and this is why you and I are friends!  ;D

I'm in the middle of emailing you between post, while my internet is still working anyway...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on June 10, 2018, 06:46:32 PM
updated spreadsheet...

moves have the player number 'yellow'... in order to make it work, I had to bring back Spooner from the PR in order to get my ratio correct and placed 2 imports on the IR...

with the info provided on cuts and availability of players based upon nationality, there is much room for change other than moving 1 player on and off the AR to IR of the same nationality, basically...

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Nice list but Speller is on the PR and LaFrance is definitely headed to the injured list


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 07:16:00 PM
Nice list but Speller is on the PR and LaFrance is definitely headed to the injured list

I know that the team placed Speller on the PR, but these are the moves I had to make with the players available to make the ratio work...  I had to bump two imports back to a different roster... it was either bring Speller back over or go with a 45 man roster...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 10, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
updated spreadsheet...

moves have the player number 'yellow'... in order to make it work, I had to bring back Spooner from the PR in order to get my ratio correct and placed 2 imports on the IR...

with the info provided on cuts and availability of players based upon nationality, there is much room for change other than moving 1 player on and off the AR to IR of the same nationality, basically...

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Spreadsheet doesn?t show on my iPhone.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 10, 2018, 08:42:56 PM
Spreadsheet doesn?t show on my iPhone.

just because it's you I'll relocate the image and fix it for ya!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 10, 2018, 09:42:49 PM
just because it's you I'll relocate the image and fix it for ya!
Thank you!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 01:04:36 AM
sorry for the delay, dang internet went bye bye for a while again... but everyone should be able to see the last chart now...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 11, 2018, 01:13:24 AM
sorry for the delay, dang internet went bye bye for a while again... but everyone should be able to see the last chart now...
Works for me now!  Thank you!

Nice chart. While I think Peterman will see the field on offence, I think Wolitarski starts over him. And while Okpalaugo will obviously play, Jeffcoat and Roh were both ahead of him in camp.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: krahnic on June 11, 2018, 03:48:38 AM
Nice chart! Noticed that you have Renaud listed as "I" instead of "N".


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: ModAdmin on June 11, 2018, 01:07:39 PM
Winnipeg Blue Bombers Announce Player Number Changes

WINNIPEG, MB., June 11, 2018 - The players listed below have changed to the following numbers:

Linebacker Adam Bighill - #4

Receiver Daniel Petermann - #81

Quarterback Alex Ross - #5

Quarterback Bryan Bennett - #18

Defensive Back Tyneil Cooper -#26

Running back Johnny Augustine -#25

 

       


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 04:47:59 PM
Nice chart! Noticed that you have Renaud listed as "I" instead of "N".

thx... that probably happened when I was rearranging players to make the numbers work out... I'm changing my chart now... any other errors?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 05:10:29 PM
thx... that probably happened when I was rearranging players to make the numbers work out... I'm changing my chart now... any other errors?

I think I'd bet the farm that we won't see two WR as DI's and neither player listed as reserves will be on the 2 man reserve. That means the IR and PR are also probably going to change.

I think you're confusing Speller with Spooner.

My expectations:

1. Speller stays on PR.
2. Spooner to 2 man reserve
3. LaFrance to IR
4. Thompkins to IR
5. Renaud stays on 44 AR
6. Foketi to 2 man reserve
7. Lankford might be on the 44 AR. Depends on Leggett and Wild's health this week. Not sure.
8. Flanders to IR
9. B. Bryant to IR
10. Nichols to IR



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
I think I'd bet the farm that we won't see two WR as DI's and neither player listed as reserves will be on the 2 man reserve. That means the IR and PR are also probably going to change.



the PR is a static commodity as it was not formulated by me but by the club... they announced the PR... by I am still waiting on your contribution... would love to see how you're going to maintain ratio... tic toc...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
the PR is a static commodity as it was not formulated by me but by the club... they announced the PR... by I am still waiting on your contribution... would love to see how you're going to maintain ratio... tic toc...

I already did. There is no way Speller has moved in front of Spooner unless Spooner got injured recently.

Yes the PR is static but we have 6 additional players on AR which need to be dealt with. Not impossible but would be very unusual to move a player from the PR to the 46 AR in the 1st week after just setting the PR roster. Injury would be the only time I'd expect a PR guy to be added back in for game 1.

As to ratio I had previously mentioned that we were 1 Canadian over and with LaFrance going to IR that solves the problem. At the same time I said Spooner to 2 man DR and Renaud would remain on the 44 AR.

Also not impossible but not usual to see two Canadians on the 2 man DR. Especially with my clarification above and the fact we have 5 extra imports to place. Usually 1 import and 1 Canadian on DR.
No idea why you added LaFrance there in any case since he's clearly been injured.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 05:24:45 PM
I already did. There is no way Speller has moved in front of Spooner unless Spooner got injured recently.

Yes the PR is static but we have 6 additional players on AR which need to be dealt with. Not impossible but would be very unusual to move a player from the PR to the 46 AR in the 1st week after just setting the PR roster. Injury would be the only time I'd expect a PR guy to be added back in for game 1.

As to ratio I had previously mentioned that we were 1 Canadian over and with LaFrance going to IR that solves the problem. At the same time I said Spooner to 2 man DR and Renaud would remain on the 44 AR.

Also not impossible but not usual to see two Canadians on the 2 man DR. Usually 1 import and 1 Canadian.
No idea why you added LaFrance there in any case since he's clearly been injured.

no, I want to see your complete roster, not you just picking at this one or that one... do the work...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 05:30:26 PM
no, I want to see your complete roster, not you just picking at this one or that one... do the work...

You got all the answers you need. Those are the changes to your chart. There are always possible things such as deciding to go with 7 OL. That changes the Spooner or Renaud issue.

The health of Leggett and Wild is sort of up in the air. Both are practicing and if healthy will certainly by on game day roster. Essentially I haven't challenged that part of the IR being in question until we hear more this week.

If not than I would think B. Bryant more probable than a 2nd WR in Thompkins.

Feel free to make 4 or 5 charts based on a few issues if you want.

We can come back to the roster once it's set for game day and see who was closer.

I think everyone has enough information to understand who each of us thinks ends up where and why.

Pretty sure everyone has been reading LaFrance has been injured. So adding him to the reserve is unlikely. Possible but not probable.

OTOH, Foketi has also been injured but I'm not sure if we know to what extent. So could he end up on IR? Possibly and that could move another import to the DR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 05:39:05 PM
You got all the answers you need. Those are the changes to your chart. There are always possible things such as deciding to go with 7 OL. That changes the Spooner or Renaud issue.

The health of Leggett and Wild is sort of up in the air. Both are practicing and if healthy will certainly by on game day roster.

If not than I would think B. Bryant more probable than a 2nd WR in Thompkins.

Feel free to make 4 or 5 charts based on a few issues if you want.

We can come back to the roster once it's set for game day and see who was closer.

I think everyone has enough information to understand who each of us thinks ends up where and why.

Pretty sure everyone has been reading LaFrance has been injured. So adding him to the reserve is unlikely. Possible but not probable.

OTOH, Foketi has also been injured but I'm not sure if we know to what extent. So could he end up on IR? Possibly and that could move another import to the DR.

sure, it's easy to make changes in 'theory', move this guy over to here, but make the numbers work... it's not as easy as you like to make it sound but yet to prove... but it all becomes a moot point Wednesday and truly not worth fighting over... just wanted to throw something at the board as a baseline for discussion, nothing more...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
sure, it's easy to make changes in 'theory', move this guy over to here, but make the numbers work... it's not as easy as you like to make it sound but yet to prove... but it all becomes a moot point Wednesday and truly not worth fighting over... just wanted to throw something at the board as a baseline for discussion, nothing more...

My changes to your numbers work and player movements based on what we know about what the team did in the past ( DR ) and on current information regarding injuries.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 11, 2018, 05:59:02 PM
Here's how I see it being our best line-up

Bryant...Neufeld...Goosen..Chungh...Hardrick (Couture)
Adams..Demski..Bowman..Dressler....Wolytowski  (Simonese..Peterman..Tompkins-DI)
Strevler (Ross...Bennett)
Harris (Augustine)

Jeffcoat..Nevis..Poop..Opo (Corney/Thomas/Roh-DI)
Randle...Fogg...Loffler..Gaitor..Alexander (Jones..Morgan)
JSK..Biggie..Fenner (Briggs..Miles..Gauthier Wilson-DI)

Medlock DI..Rempel...Miller..( now depending on injuries and if we dress 7 olineman like last year then it's either Spooner or Lafrance)

2 Reserves (Larfance/Spooner and Foketti/Flanders...whichever one isn't on 1 game)

I'm thinking we will roll with just Morgan and Jones as back-up DB's and be better suited with Wilson as a DI at linebacker.

Now if Leggett is actually gonna play I guess he goes to SAM and Fenner most likely to HB and one of Fogg/Alexander come off




Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 11, 2018, 06:10:08 PM
Here's how I see it being our best line-up

Bryant...Neufeld...Goosen..Chungh...Hardrick (Couture)
Adams..Demski..Bowman..Dressler....Wolytowski  (Simonese..Peterman..Tompkins-DI)
Strevler (Ross...Bennett)
Harris (Augustine)

Jeffcoat..Nevis..Poop..Opo (Corney/Thomas/Roh-DI)
Randle...Fogg...Loffler..Gaitor..Alexander (Jones..Morgan)
JSK..Biggie..Fenner (Briggs..Miles..Gauthier Wilson-DI)

Medlock DI..Rempel...Miller..( now depending on injuries and if we dress 7 olineman like last year then it's either Spooner or Lafrance)

2 Reserves (Larfance/Spooner and Foketti/Flanders...whichever one isn't on 1 game)

I'm thinking we will roll with just Morgan and Jones as back-up DB's and be better suited with Wilson as a DI at linebacker.

Now if Leggett is actually gonna play I guess he goes to SAM and Fenner most likely to HB and one of Fogg/Alexander come off




I would switch out Tompkins with Lankford for return purposes but otherwise I agree.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 11, 2018, 06:12:26 PM
Nah....Fogg is a much better punt returner...and Demski can do it as well...We can also use  Demski and Augustine on kick offs too.

But sadly I have a feeling the team will roster Lankford...Which I think is a waste of a spot


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
Nah....Fogg is a much better punt returner...and Demski can do it as well...We can also use  Demski and Augustine on kick offs too.

But sadly I have a feeling the team will roster Lankford...Which I think is a waste of a spot


he would have already been gone if that wasn't the plan, in my opinion as well...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 06:14:22 PM
Here's how I see it being our best line-up

Bryant...Neufeld...Goosen..Chungh...Hardrick (Couture)
Adams..Demski..Bowman..Dressler....Wolytowski  (Simonese..Peterman..Tompkins-DI)
Strevler (Ross...Bennett)
Harris (Augustine)

Jeffcoat..Nevis..Poop..Opo (Corney/Thomas/Roh-DI)
Randle...Fogg...Loffler..Gaitor..Alexander (Jones..Morgan)
JSK..Biggie..Fenner (Briggs..Miles..Gauthier Wilson-DI)

Medlock DI..Rempel...Miller..( now depending on injuries and if we dress 7 olineman like last year then it's either Spooner or Lafrance)

2 Reserves (Larfance/Spooner and Foketti/Flanders...whichever one isn't on 1 game)

I'm thinking we will roll with just Morgan and Jones as back-up DB's and be better suited with Wilson as a DI at linebacker.

Now if Leggett is actually gonna play I guess he goes to SAM and Fenner most likely to HB and one of Fogg/Alexander come off




Looks pretty good. I think that's only 43 players. Renaud is missing but if Spooner is active that could flip where they land.

Wilson makes sense if Wild can't play.

Thompkins is an interesting DI choice. It's either him or Lankford if they can and choose an offensive guy as a DI.

Not sounding like Leggett makes game 1. Wild maybe. Not sure what Jones injury is or what that domino might be.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 11, 2018, 06:19:37 PM
yeah 43...then one of Spooner or Lafrance...we dressed 7 olineman last year...so n ot sure if that a plan again this year


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 11, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
Ted Wyman  @Ted_Wyman  7 minutes ago
Mike O'Shea says Maurice Leggett will not play this week as he needs a full week of practice before there's a chance of him being ready. Leggett still recovering from torn Achilles, suffered last season. Was a partial participant in practice Monday. #Bombers #CFL

WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers    June 10
The team has released kicker F?lix M?nard-Bri?re.

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton  June 10
For those curious as to why K Felix Menard-Briere was released today and not yesterday when the team released it's long list of cuts, it was because he was given the night to decide whether he wanted a PR spot. He declined the #Bombers offer today and was then issued his release.

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming  June 11
The #RedBlacks have announced the addition of K/P Felix M?nard-Bri?re to their practice roster.

BOMBER REPORT - JUNE 11

NOTABLE:
Former Bombers kicking prospect F?lix M?nard-Bri?re accepted a practice roster agreement with the Ottawa REDBLACKS on Monday - after turning down a similar opportunity here on the weekend. M?nard-Bri?re was a perfect 4-for-4 in field goal attempts over two pre-season games, but was listed behind veteran Justin Medlock on the depth chart here, while Ottawa will likely go with two kickers to start the season in Canadian Lewis Ward for placekicking and import Richie Leone for punts and kickoffs.

"I really appreciate Felix and the work he did," said O'Shea. "He went out on the field in B.C. and banged a 52 yarder and punted well. He's going to be a successful kicker. But, as I spoke to him, you look at the B.C. situation with Lui Passaglia... there's a couple hall of famers who had been cut because he had a job for 24 years or whatever it is. It takes so long for kickers to break in. They just have to have the right opportunity. Hopefully, Felix gets an opportunity to get on the field. It would be unfortunate it's not with us, but we've got Justin Medlock and I would say he's the best kicker in the league and maybe the best ever."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/06/11/bomber-report-june-11/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/06/11/bomber-report-june-11/)


Practice roster June 10th:
WPG ADD  INT Tyneil COOPER (DB)    Dixie State
WPG ADD  NAT Tylor HENRY (N/C*) (WR)    Alberta
WPG ADD  INT Robert PRIESTER (DB)    Wyoming
WPG ADD  NAT John RUSH (LB)    Guelph
WPG ADD  INT Marcus SAYLES (DB)    West Georgia
WPG ADD  NAT Cody SPELLER (N/C) (OL)    McMaster
WPG ADD  INT Corey WASHINGTON (WR)    Newberry College
WPG ADD  INT Kyrie WILSON (LB)    Fresno State


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 11, 2018, 06:24:08 PM
Nah....Fogg is a much better punt returner...and Demski can do it as well...We can also use  Demski and Augustine on kick offs too.

But sadly I have a feeling the team will roster Lankford...Which I think is a waste of a spot

Lankford is a good KR. Demski is nicked, and that's why I put Lankford ahead of Tompkins. Definitely not for Lankford's receiving ability. lol


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 06:26:14 PM
yeah 43...then one of Spooner or Lafrance...we dressed 7 olineman last year...so n ot sure if that a plan again this year

It's an interesting question though. Last year we had Bond with Neufeld and Couture in reserve. That's changed this year with one less body but obviously Spooner could be that guy.

We dropped Rush as FB to the PR. That might be a reason to add the extra OL so that we can use them in TE options occasionally that we used last year.

Does Thompkins have any return experience? They like him so he could be a guy they take a look at in game 1 to see what he brings to the table. An extended audition in live fire. They already know what Lankford can do.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 11, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
Demski I hear is fine and good to go.

I don't think Lankford is that great...He is fast and there is a seam or hole there he is ok...but he can't make anything happen on his own...has no moves at all to make anyone miss and I don't think is physical enough...



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 11, 2018, 06:27:24 PM
It's an interesting question though. Last year we had Bond with Neufeld and Couture in reserve. That's changed this year with one less body but obviously Spooner could be that guy.

We dropped Rush as FB to the PR. That might be a reason to add the extra OL so that we can use them in TE options occasionally that we used last year.

Does Thompkins have any return experience? They like him so he could be a guy they take a look at in game 1 to see what he brings to the table. An extended audition in live fire. They already know what Lankford can do.

They kept Lankford on the AR for a reason. Doubt it's for his receiving skills.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
Lankford is a good KR. Demski is nicked, and that's why I put Lankford ahead of Tompkins. Definitely not for Lankford's receiving ability. lol

The downside is that we don't want to be receiving K/O's. That will mean the Esks are scoring!! If that's the case and we're playing catch up, then that's not a good situation with young QB's.

aarrgghhh!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on June 11, 2018, 06:29:33 PM
but oh so exciting! the season is upon us!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 11, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
They kept Lankford on the AR for a reason. Doubt it's for his receiving skills.

They also kept Flanders, B.Bryant, Wild, Leggett and Thompkins on the AR at the moment.

The bigger question is why did we keep Flanders at all? I like him but having to add him to the AR is not going to be an easy decision.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 11, 2018, 06:35:43 PM
well he can return kicks as well...play receiver better than Lankford...play running back...play teams too as a coverage guy...Crossing my fingers he goes on the 44 before Lankford to see how he does as the kick return guy

He offers a heck of a lot more value as the DI as Lankford does


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 11, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
well he can return kicks as well...play receiver better than Lankford...play running back...play teams too as a coverage guy...Crossing my fingers he goes on the 44 before Lankford to see how he does as the kick return guy

He offers a heck of a lot more value as the DI as Lankford does


No question about that...but isn't he injured?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on June 11, 2018, 06:40:08 PM
i think so...not sure extent of it tho


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 11, 2018, 06:41:13 PM
i think so...not sure extent of it tho

I don't think there was any possibility of having him Thursday.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on June 12, 2018, 02:33:50 AM
ROSTER                          11-Jun-18
...
WPG ADD FROM INJURED VETERAN INT Maurice LEGGETT (DB)    Valdosta State

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 12, 2018, 02:50:09 AM
ROSTER                         11-Jun-18
...
WPG ADD FROM INJURED VETERAN INT Maurice LEGGETT (DB)    Valdosta State

https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/

Yeah I don't get this. O'Shea said he needed time to get up to speed so I would have expected him to be on the IR. Now we're taking him off IR?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2018, 05:46:27 AM
WPG ADD FROM INJURED VETERAN INT Maurice LEGGETT (DB)    Valdosta State

Yeah I don't get this. O'Shea said he needed time to get up to speed so I would have expected him to be on the IR. Now we're taking him off IR?

Very curious... instantly contradicts what he said on coach's show?  Is this purely a player-reward issue?  Put him on AR and then healthy-scratch him on Thurs, does that mean Mo still gets a game day cheque??  And now who's bumped to make space?

For those curious, maybe discuss on the coach's show thread?  I just posted there that Mo will be a DB...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 12, 2018, 06:05:11 AM
Yeah I don't get this. O'Shea said he needed time to get up to speed so I would have expected him to be on the IR. Now we're taking him off IR?
I think all this is showing is he's coming off the pre-season IR. On Weds they will announce their injury list for the coming week. Leggett will either be on the injury list or 2 man reserve.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 12, 2018, 11:44:20 AM
So I just counted 52 on the roster, does that mean 6 are still injured?  Leggett must be one of those 6.

With Demski back, also don't know how we keep 4 National WR & 5 Int.  Who from that group is injured?  Thompkins got a little banged up in the game, but came back.  Do they put him on IR?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on June 12, 2018, 12:00:14 PM
I think all this is showing is he's coming off the pre-season IR. On Weds they will announce their injury list for the coming week. Leggett will either be on the injury list or 2 man reserve.

I think this is correct.  It appears injured veteran is a status that you can use during camp to open up a slot for someone else. 

I notice there are still 2 vacant PR spots, so they will use those, the IR, and the 2man reserve to get everyone sorted. Pesrsonally, I suspect Moe is more than one week away.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on June 12, 2018, 12:02:34 PM
So I just counted 52 on the roster, does that mean 6 are still injured?  Leggett must be one of those 6.

With Demski back, also don't know how we keep 4 National WR & 5 Int.  Who from that group is injured?  Thompkins got a little banged up in the game, but came back.  Do they put him on IR?

I'm guessing Nichols, Lafrance, Thompkins, Wild, Leggett & Flanders on IR


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 12, 2018, 01:27:27 PM
Very curious... instantly contradicts what he said on coach's show?  Is this purely a player-reward issue?  Put him on AR and then healthy-scratch him on Thurs, does that mean Mo still gets a game day cheque??  And now who's bumped to make space?

For those curious, maybe discuss on the coach's show thread?  I just posted there that Mo will be a DB...


He gets paid either way. So that doesn't explain the game check idea. Other teams added veteran players to IR during TC and haven't made similar moves that I noticed.

It doesn't appear he'll play this week.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 12, 2018, 03:47:44 PM
He gets paid either way. So that doesn't explain the game check idea. Other teams added veteran players to IR during TC and haven't made similar moves that I noticed.

It doesn't appear he'll play this week.
The CFL transactions page during pre-season is not 100% accurate. A lot of moves haven't been reported.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 12, 2018, 04:00:11 PM
The CFL transactions page during pre-season is not 100% accurate. A lot of moves haven't been reported.

That may be true but the transaction regarding Leggett was reported on June 11th.

I'm not sure players currently on the AR are subject to be moving to the PR in week 1. I mean isn't that the point of declaring the 46 man roster and cuts? Otherwise we could have kept the 8 current PR guys and declared the PR and IR on Wednesday.

I don't recall teams having more than 46 AR going into week 1. I thought IR's got declared at the same time as the cuts in past seasons.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 12, 2018, 04:02:10 PM
That may be true but the transaction regarding Leggett was reported on June 11th.

I'm not sure players currently on the AR are subject to be moving to the PR in week 1. I mean isn't that the point of declaring the 46 man roster and cuts? Otherwise we could have kept the 8 current PR guys and declared the PR and IR on Wednesday.

I don't recall teams having more than 46 AR going into week 1. I thought IR's got declared at the same time as the cuts in past seasons.
Bombers said they will release their IR tomorrow, along with the depth chart. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 12, 2018, 04:07:58 PM
O'Shea doesn't like to release roster info early to keep the other team guessing.

The team doesn't have to announce their IR list until Weds and as Gbill mentioned, that is when they will announce it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 12, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
O'Shea doesn't like to release roster info early to keep the other team guessing.

The team doesn't have to announce their IR list until Weds and as Gbill mentioned, that is when they will announce it.

I don't think keeping a few depth players / rookies keeps other teams guessing.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 12, 2018, 04:58:30 PM
Why did we activate Leggett? Because it's the only way he's allowed to practice. Pretty simple really. He may not be ready this week or next, but the Bombers want to give him ample time to gradually work up to game speed.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on June 12, 2018, 05:09:29 PM
Why did we activate Leggett? Because it's the only way he's allowed to practice. Pretty simple really. He may not be ready this week or next, but the Bombers want to give him ample time to gradually work up to game speed.

I don't believe that is true. You can practice while on the 1 game IR as far as I know.  If that's not true then none of extra 5 or 6 players on today's AR shouldn't be practicing if they are going to end up on the IR tomorrow.

1 game IR is often an extended PR where players get full pay.

Players can practice in week 5 while on the 6 game IR.

So why didn't we have to declare on Sunday? Seems like a loophole. Unless the league has been advised and the team is just not announcing those decisions.

Just as I mentioned I don't think players on today's AR can be moved to the PR this week. Players on the PR could be moved up but not the other way around for week 1.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 13, 2018, 07:35:57 AM
He gets paid either way. So that doesn't explain the game check idea. Other teams added veteran players to IR during TC and haven't made similar moves that I noticed.

Is that true?  Game check goes to everyone on AR and IR???  I thought it was only those who dressed + healthy scratches?  Admittedly, I know absolutely nothing about this side of things, that's why I'm curious.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 13, 2018, 08:37:00 AM
Is that true?  Game check goes to everyone on AR and IR???  I thought it was only those who dressed + healthy scratches?  Admittedly, I know absolutely nothing about this side of things, that's why I'm curious.

If you?re on the team you get paid.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 14, 2018, 10:56:18 AM
Rosters for Game one:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DflBufMU8AIvXh5.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DflBx5dVQAAOo2d.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DflCK2-VMAMfIZf.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DflNKsdUcAArKH8.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DflNj1HVQAAbWYx.jpg)

WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers   June 14
Tonight's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #57 Manase Foketi & #96 Brandin Bryant.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfsFYSZX4AAwCpa.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfsFYLLWAAA_BMC.jpg)

Transactions June 13th:

WPG ADD  INT Kyrie WILSON (LB)    Fresno State (from practice roster)
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Timothy FLANDERS (RB)    Sam Houston State - to Jul-26^^ (15-Jul)
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Kienan LAFRANCE (RB)    Manitoba - to Jun-21
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Maurice LEGGETT (DB)    Valdosta State - to Jun-21
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Matt NICHOLS (QB)    Eastern Washington - to Jul-26^^ (15-Jul)
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Qadr SPOONER  (OL)    McGill - to Jun-21
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Kenbrell THOMPKINS (WR)    Cincinnati - to Jun-21
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Ian WILD (LB)    Mercyhurst College - to Jun-21


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on June 14, 2018, 11:12:42 AM
Is that true?  Game check goes to everyone on AR and IR???  I thought it was only those who dressed + healthy scratches?  Admittedly, I know absolutely nothing about this side of things, that's why I'm curious.


Full cheques for everyone on 46man roster (including 2 man reserve or healthy scratches) and on IR.  The difference is that the game cheques for 6 game injured (Nichols and Flanders) does not count against cap.

Practice roster guys get a stipend that is normally below the league minimum, but can be as high as the team wants.  These stipends also count against the salary cap. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 14, 2018, 12:22:05 PM
Full cheques for everyone on 46man roster (including 2 man reserve or healthy scratches) and on IR.  The difference is that the game cheques for 6 game injured (Nichols and Flanders) does not count against cap.

Practice roster guys get a stipend that is normally below the league minimum, but can be as high as the team wants.  These stipends also count against the salary cap. 

If they stay on it for six games. It also probably guarantees we won't see Flanders until week seven at the earliest because they'll use one of their two options to remove a player from the six-game on Nichols. They'll keep the other for later in the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 14, 2018, 01:20:00 PM
If they stay on it for six games. It also probably guarantees we won't see Flanders until week seven at the earliest because they'll use one of their two options to remove a player from the six-game on Nichols. They'll keep the other for later in the season.

Putting Flanders on the 6- game kind of says to me that the Bombers didn't know how to get him into a game either, eventually they will have to fish or cut bait.  Not sure why they procrastinated when they could have used his spot to retain another import like Montgomery.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Jesse on June 14, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Putting Flanders on the 6- game kind of says to me that the Bombers didn't know how to get him into a game either, eventually they will have to fish or cut bait.  Not sure why they procrastinated when they could have used his spot to retain another import like Montgomery.

MOS said they just didn't think they needed another DE. We're stacked at the position.

Flanders is all purpose and could easily get back on the roster if we have injuries to the RB or SB positions.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on June 14, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Putting Flanders on the 6- game kind of says to me that the Bombers didn't know how to get him into a game either, eventually they will have to fish or cut bait.  Not sure why they procrastinated when they could have used his spot to retain another import like Montgomery.

Yea....our ratio choices and keeping Flanders don't really jive. I have a feeling that the Bombers signed him and overestimated their ability to retain Westerman.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 14, 2018, 01:40:53 PM
MOS said they just didn't think they needed another DE. We're stacked at the position.

Flanders is all purpose and could easily get back on the roster if we have injuries to the RB or SB positions.

Stacked???  They only have 4 on the roster, one injury and they will be on the phone looking for another.  Hopefully it happens early enough in the season so they can bring back someone they are familiar with and don't have to go through the try-out process with a total unknown.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on June 14, 2018, 01:47:03 PM
Stacked???  They only have 4 on the roster, one injury and they will be on the phone looking for another.  Hopefully it happens early enough in the season so they can bring back someone they are familiar with and don't have to go through the try-out process with a total unknown.
He did not use the word "stacked".  He said it would be difficult getting them all reps in practice if we had another one, and that played a factor in the decision to release Montgomery. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on June 14, 2018, 02:21:45 PM
Stacked???  They only have 4 on the roster, one injury and they will be on the phone looking for another.  Hopefully it happens early enough in the season so they can bring back someone they are familiar with and don't have to go through the try-out process with a total unknown.

Well its not like they are going to lose the phone numbers for Montgomery and Casher (who also showed well).  If we get an injury, we sign another guy.  If there's one position where it's fairly easy to integrate a guy mid-season, it's DE. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 21, 2018, 09:47:36 PM
June 18, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed international quarterback Mitchell Gale to the practice roster.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/06/18/bombers-add-qb-gale/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/06/18/bombers-add-qb-gale/)

Transactions June 18th:

WPG DEL  NAT Johnny AUGUSTINE (RB)    Guelph -added to practice roster
WPG DEL  INT Ryan LANKFORD (WR)    Illinois - added to pratice roster

Transactions June 21st:
WPG ADD  INT Mitchell GALE (QB)    Abilene Christian - from practice roster
WPG ADD FROM INJURED NAT Kienan LAFRANCE  (RB)    Manitoba
WPG ADD FROM INJURED INT Maurice LEGGETT (DB)    Valdosta State
WPG ADD FROM INJURED INT Ian WILD (LB)    Mercyhurst College
WPG DEL  INT Kyrie WILSON (LB)    Fresno State - added to practice roster
WPG EXT ON INJURED NAT Qadr SPOONER  (OL)    McGill - to Aug-09^^ (22-Jul)
WPG EXT ON INJURED INT Kenbrell THOMPKINS (WR)    Cincinnati - to Jun-28
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Alex ROSS (QB)    Coastal Carolina - to Aug-09^^ (22-Jul)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 21, 2018, 09:48:56 PM
Roster for game two:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgOucqSU0AAdtcU.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgOug6uVAAAEE5o.jpg)



(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgP2P0jUYAAe3xb.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 22, 2018, 09:36:50 PM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers   34 minutes ago
Tonight's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #57 Manase Foketi, #93 Craig Roh


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgU9lrfXcAEa-HB.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgU9lqsXkAAuhPw.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 28, 2018, 07:13:03 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
Team-issued depth chart/roster with the #Bombers in Hamilton Friday night. @almighty31 (Moe Leggett)makes his first start of the season at a new position for him, as Anthony Gaitor (lower-body) begins a stint on the 6-Game IL. Ian Wild misses a second game, and Trent Corney is off as well.

The defensive secondary may look at little different positionally this week, but it is essentially the same starting personnel. The test for the #Bombers D will be to pressure Masoli while staying responsible against a very talented and deep #TiCats receiving corps.

Canadian tailback Mercer Timmis is coming off a big game for the #TiCats, where he ran for 133 yards against Edmonton. Hamilton is no longer just a pass-happy O - several #Bombers players and coaches have told me as much this week.

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
Four changes to the 46: Wilson, Sayles, Cooper and Rush on for Bryant, Wild, Gaitor and Corney

Bob Irving  @BobIrvingCJOB
With Anthony Gaitor on 6-game injured, Bombers add rookie DB's tyneill cooper and Marcus Sales to 46-man roster.  Defensive lineman Craig Roh comes back on, Trent Corney on 1-game inj.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 28, 2018, 07:16:31 PM
Rosters for game 3:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgywQRWU8AE2_iN.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgywTOcUwAErNh-.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyELX_U8AIEtbp.jpg)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgylJG3VAAAMK_q.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgylJG2U0AE2cHb.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on June 29, 2018, 07:39:36 PM
I think we can run on these guys.  Basically same game plan as last week.  LBs are the key.  Are they good? or were they just oportunistic?  That is are they fundamentally sound. or can they be tricked.  I vote trickable.

Go Blue!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on June 29, 2018, 09:04:16 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats   @Ticats
Inactives: Williams (53), Golding (65)

WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers
Tonight's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #37 Brandon Alexander, #57 Manase Foketi

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg5AulYW4AcpFJu.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg5AukpX0AAxTS5.jpg)

Transactions June 28:

WPG ADD  INT Tyneil COOPER (DB)    Dixie State  - from practice roster
WPG ADD  NAT John RUSH (LB)    Guelph    -from practice roster
WPG ADD  INT Marcus SAYLES (DB)    West Georgia   - from practice roster
WPG ADD  INT Kyrie WILSON (LB)    Fresno State  - from practice roster
WPG DEL  INT Brandin BRYANT (DL)    Florida Atlantic  - added to practice roster
WPG DEL  INT Kenbrell THOMPKINS (WR)    Cincinnati  - added to practice roster
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Trent CORNEY (DL)    Virginia - to Jul-06
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Anthony GAITOR (DB)    Florida International - Aug-16^^ (28-Jul)
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Ian WILD (LB)    Mercyhurst College -to Jul-06


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 04, 2018, 01:40:06 AM
Transactions July 3:

WPG DEL  INT Mitchell GALE (QB)    Abilene Christian (- added to practice roster)
WPG ADD FROM INJURED INT Matt NICHOLS (QB)    Eastern Washington - Removed from 6-game injured list


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Horseman on July 04, 2018, 01:59:01 PM
I have a question hopefully someone can answer. During some of the video recorded interviews of players after practice on the home site, I have observed a player wearing #78 in a blue jersey (defence), but I can't find anyone on the roster that wears #78. Does anyone know who this player is?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 04, 2018, 02:14:44 PM
I have a question hopefully someone can answer. During some of the video recorded interviews of players after practice on the home site, I have observed a player wearing #78 in a blue jersey (defence), but I can't find anyone on the roster that wears #78. Does anyone know who this player is?

Maybe their signing and activating R. Hall to play in the secondary since he can't seem to coach the players he has now. :( lol


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 04, 2018, 04:20:02 PM
I have a question hopefully someone can answer. During some of the video recorded interviews of players after practice on the home site, I have observed a player wearing #78 in a blue jersey (defence), but I can't find anyone on the roster that wears #78. Does anyone know who this player is?
That's Winnipeg Rifle Hayden Nellis. The Bombers should have him listed on the practice roster as a non-counter. He was listed as one of the cuts on countdown day but they never mentioned that he was sticking around.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on July 04, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
I would like to see thompkins  given a shot, replacing Bowman. Wasn't he impressive in one of the Exhibition games.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 04, 2018, 04:37:47 PM
I would like to see thompkins  given a shot, replacing Bowman. Wasn't he impressive in one of the Exhibition games.
Let's see how Bowman does with Nichols at QB before we go ahead and replace him.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: dd on July 04, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
No doubt. Bowman will do just fine with Nichols


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 04, 2018, 06:13:49 PM
#Bombers safety and special teams captain Derek Jones will be placed on the 6-Game Injured List with a lower-body injury. Asked if his season might be over, Mike O?Shea said he would hate to say that. But it sounds like it may be in jeopardy.

This would be an underrated, but big loss.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on July 04, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
#Bombers safety and special teams captain Derek Jones will be placed on the 6-Game Injured List with a lower-body injury. Asked if his season might be over, Mike O?Shea said he would hate to say that. But it sounds like it may be in jeopardy.

This would be an underrated, but big loss.

Shoot. Bad news for a lot of reasons. That's too bad. As far as depth players go he's about as crucial as one gets in that role.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 04, 2018, 06:22:04 PM
Shoot. Bad news for a lot of reasons. That's too bad. As far as depth players go he's about as crucial as one gets in that role.
Yep, he's Loffler's backup at safety and he's huge on special teams.  We are now very vulnerable with regards to the ratio if Loffler were to get injured, with knowing his history isn't out of the question. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on July 04, 2018, 06:29:40 PM
This is pretty big injury should anything happen to Loffler.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Horseman on July 04, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
That's Winnipeg Rifle Hayden Nellis. The Bombers should have him listed on the practice roster as a non-counter. He was listed as one of the cuts on countdown day but they never mentioned that he was sticking around.


Thank you for the information.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 04, 2018, 07:24:30 PM
Shoot. Bad news for a lot of reasons. That's too bad. As far as depth players go he's about as crucial as one gets in that role.

That's a considerable hit to the NAT depth on defense. :-[


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on July 04, 2018, 07:34:55 PM
That's a considerable hit to the NAT depth on defense. :-[

Big hit agree



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on July 05, 2018, 05:34:05 AM
I have doubts re Bowman. He wasn't running very hard the first three games, and Nicholls presence won't make him run faster. Maybe Lapo can do something to get him open.  He looked disinterested on more than a couple passes in his direction.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on July 05, 2018, 10:58:47 AM
That's a considerable hit to the NAT depth on defense. :-[

Not as big as it would have been last year. We brought back Morgan who is also decent depth at that position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 05, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
Jones is a very good ST player. I would never have been confidant in him needing to start at safety. Of course that means Morgan might even be a lesser player if he needs to start.



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 05, 2018, 07:04:59 PM
I think Corney takes Jones' roster spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 05, 2018, 07:06:31 PM
I think Corney takes Jones' roster spot.
Is he ready to come off the IR this week?  Did he practice today? 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: floyd on July 05, 2018, 09:11:29 PM
Did anyone sign Conteh... would be good to see him back on PR


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 05, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
Is he ready to come off the IR this week?  Did he practice today? 
He did practice today. I didn't really notice how many reps he took though.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 05, 2018, 09:36:24 PM
He did practice today. I didn't really notice how many reps he took though.
Thanks. That sounds promising.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 05, 2018, 09:37:25 PM
Did anyone sign Conteh... would be good to see him back on PR
Conteh and Branning are un-signed and available.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on July 06, 2018, 02:38:31 PM
Conteh and Branning are un-signed and available.

wasn't the team really high on Branning at one time? I was a little surprised to see him cut earlier...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 06, 2018, 04:15:32 PM
wasn't the team really high on Branning at one time? I was a little surprised to see him cut earlier...

That's what I thought and then he didn't even make the PR. Of course he may have declined a PR offer.

Never really know if some decisions are made on a player winning a spot or some loyalty from O'Shea.

IE: Morgan being re-signed as a more experienced player. Is he better with more upside or did he just get penciled in once he was signed before TC?

Can't honestly say I know but it's sort of what I predicted would happen.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: 66 Chevelle on July 06, 2018, 04:18:12 PM
That's what I thought and then he didn't even make the PR. Of course he may have declined a PR offer.

Never really know if some decisions are made on a player winning a spot or some loyalty from O'Shea.

IE: Morgan being re-signed as a more experienced player. Is he better with more upside or did he just get penciled in once he was signed before TC?

Can't honestly say I know but it's sort of what I predicted would happen.

good points, Blue


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 06, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
That's what I thought and then he didn't even make the PR. Of course he may have declined a PR offer.

Never really know if some decisions are made on a player winning a spot or some loyalty from O'Shea.

IE: Morgan being re-signed as a more experienced player. Is he better with more upside or did he just get penciled in once he was signed before TC?

Can't honestly say I know but it's sort of what I predicted would happen.

Not really happy with the P.R. management so far this year (Brian Walker, Montgomery, Ekakitie, Branning or Conteh) but as you say, we really don't know if players were offered P.R. positions and refused.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 06, 2018, 08:50:29 PM
Not really happy with the P.R. management so far this year (Brian Walker, Montgomery, Ekakitie, Branning or Conteh) but as you say, we really don't know if players were offered P.R. positions and refused.

I'm even wondering why we haven't increased the PR back up to 10 players. Adding another LB for example since Wild has missed time we have no one on the PR.

Always felt we should have another import OL sitting on the PR.

I'd be looking for a true return type talent and import RB as back ups.

No idea whether Flanders can even play this season even if we want and if we found it necessary to have him be ready.

We have hopes that our 2 back up Canadians can take some reps and do well but it's still a TBD.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bowlerdude on July 06, 2018, 08:58:21 PM
I'm not sure there's any intention of having an import RB sticking around (Flanders is hurt and also started to move to more of an RB/SB hybrid role). I think Lafrance, Augustine, and Demski are here to remove the need for that position.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 06, 2018, 09:51:29 PM
I'm not sure there's any intention of having an import RB sticking around (Flanders is hurt and also started to move to more of an RB/SB hybrid role). I think Lafrance, Augustine, and Demski are here to remove the need for that position.

That's what I thought going into TC. However they kept Flanders and I don't know if that is a mandatory action due to vet status or what.

All that said I still think we need an upgrade on the returner situation. How we get one on the AR is another question. Regardless a PR guy could be part of the solution in 2019 for example. That's one reason we have a PR.

I don't believe Flanders when healthy will be the next receiver to make the AR when an injury occurs. I could be wrong but that's my guess. OTOH, we don't know what his injury is and whether he's even expected to be healthy this season.

IIRC I probably suggested neither Flanders or Lankford should be retained and both positions should have had competition for PR spots, not AR spots. I like Flanders but still feel that plus the ratio issue of even getting him on the AR when healthy.


May as well have intended to save a little SMS space and develop new players.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 07, 2018, 01:54:04 AM
That's what I thought going into TC. However they kept Flanders and I don't know if that is a mandatory action due to vet status or what.

All that said I still think we need an upgrade on the returner situation. How we get one on the AR is another question. Regardless a PR guy could be part of the solution in 2019 for example. That's one reason we have a PR.

I don't believe Flanders when healthy will be the next receiver to make the AR when an injury occurs. I could be wrong but that's my guess. OTOH, we don't know what his injury is and whether he's even expected to be healthy this season.

IIRC I probably suggested neither Flanders or Lankford should be retained and both positions should have had competition for PR spots, not AR spots. I like Flanders but still feel that plus the ratio issue of even getting him on the AR when healthy.


May as well have intended to save a little SMS space and develop new players.


I love Flanders but I don't have a clue how they're going to deploy him.  If he's healthy after LD maybe they bring back the Harris/Flanders set and pull Dressler or Bowman on certain downs to mix things up.  I would like to see them develop Augustine as the RB of the future before they lose him, so I would honestly prefer they teach him all Flanders tricks so that they don't have to mess around with the ratio.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 07, 2018, 01:36:37 PM
I love Flanders but I don't have a clue how they're going to deploy him.  If he's healthy after LD maybe they bring back the Harris/Flanders set and pull Dressler or Bowman on certain downs to mix things up.  I would like to see them develop Augustine as the RB of the future before they lose him, so I would honestly prefer they teach him all Flanders tricks so that they don't have to mess around with the ratio.

Deploying him is not the issue. It's the ratio issue as you noted. We all like Flanders and he's not a bad player.

However he's not a great player. Let's use S. Logan as the example. A player that returns, receives and rushes at a very high level. That's the kind of versatility you need when ratio limits who you can get on the roster.

I hope we get some opportunity in games to see our other Canadian RB's. Just don't want it to happen due to an injury to Harris. Game situations where we have big leads should provide that as the season goes forward.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 07, 2018, 07:39:57 PM
Rosters for game 4:

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
The #Bombers depth chart for tomorrow features two changes to the 46-man roster: QB Matt Nichols and DE Trent Corney are on; DB Derek Jones and QB Mitchell Gale are off. Tyneil Cooper will start at CB

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
The club has issued a correction to their Week 4 roster. LB Kyrie Wilson is on Winnipeg's active roster and not on their practice roster. He was previously listed on both.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhbd4HyV4AATRKm.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhb7HnfUcAA_Ogu.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhbddV4UcAAVCCv.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhbi84HX4AAF8Cv.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 09, 2018, 11:45:10 AM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers
Tonight's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #37 Brandon Alexander, #57 Manase Foketi.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhih8BIXcAAcwL9.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhih8DoX4AEXBl3.jpg)

Transactions July 6:


WPG ADD FROM INJURED NAT Trent CORNEY (DL)    Virginia
WPG EXT ON INJURED INT Ian WILD (LB)    Mercyhurst College - to Jul-13
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Derek JONES (DB)    Simon Fraser - to Aug-24^^ (11-Jul)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 09, 2018, 11:45:34 AM
Steve Morley   @SteveMorley62 
My boy: special teams stud @JeffHecht24 has just signed with the @Wpg_BlueBombers . Does anyone have a room to rent out to him, please? #FortheW #bombers #cfl #winnipeg


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on July 09, 2018, 01:29:44 PM
And that's the best we could do?? wow


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on July 09, 2018, 01:32:30 PM
And that's the best we could do?? wow

its not like he will be a starter on this team.
yes he was a starter in sask but he will be a depth guy and a st player nothing more.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 09, 2018, 01:36:32 PM
And that's the best we could do?? wow

I suppose he's replacing Jones while injured. At least he's a veteran and known skill set. I would have thought Conteh or Branning would have been signed.

Morgan moves up the depth chart behind Loffler so they really just needed a # 3 depth guy and ST player.

So it does seem a bit of a surprise that neither of the other two are returning to an AR spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on July 09, 2018, 05:45:47 PM

Corey Washington Jr.@HeDoubleTrouble

Next year decisions just keep getting easier  and easier for me!!



? ? ? ?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 09, 2018, 05:47:10 PM

Corey Washington Jr.@HeDoubleTrouble

Next year decisions just keep getting easier  and easier for me!!



? ? ? ?
Interesting. Maybe he's tired of being on the PR while Bowman doesn't produce. Probably figures he deserves a shot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on July 09, 2018, 06:04:49 PM
Interesting. Maybe he's tired of being on the PR while Bowman doesn't produce. Probably figures he deserves a shot.

But he's on the PR... no need to wait until next year, if he thinks there is a better opportunity, he can walk now...  I get he may be frustrated, but this tweet is something that gets guys cut...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on July 09, 2018, 06:05:08 PM

Corey Washington Jr.@HeDoubleTrouble

Next year decisions just keep getting easier  and easier for me!!



? ? ? ?

I hate crap like that. He will tweet his way off the team if he isn't careful.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on July 09, 2018, 06:09:14 PM

Corey Washington Jr.@HeDoubleTrouble

Ready to play some football again!!
But mostly I?m ready to see my daughter in a few weeks 😊🙌🏾



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on July 09, 2018, 06:14:35 PM
I hate crap like that. He will tweet his way off the team if he isn't careful.

He probably looks at it like he's buried behind several players. Lankford got more looks during the pre-season and Kenbrell Thompkins is pretty good too.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 09, 2018, 06:33:29 PM

Corey Washington Jr.@HeDoubleTrouble

Ready to play some football again!!
But mostly I?m ready to see my daughter in a few weeks 😊🙌🏾


So was the previous tweet in reference to his new daughter? 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 09, 2018, 06:38:06 PM
Maybe he meant next year he'll be a family man and out of football as a result. That's fine as a life decision. OTOH keep it to yourself if you're being retained to develop and you won't be around for the team to benefit.

It may have been more of an assessment that it's not easy to rise up the depth chart and he may see greater talents above him. He may be or feel he's # 3 on the PR depth chart.

I haven't seen him in practice to know how he looks compared to Thompkins or Lankford.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on July 09, 2018, 06:44:56 PM
I've seen enough to know Lankford ranks dead last in terms of receiver talent and upside on the roster, and is only here for return reasons..and really those as well can be easily replaced..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Knocker42 on July 09, 2018, 06:47:19 PM
I have watched him in practice and he has made some excellent plays.  He and Thompkins certainly have the talent to play in this league and both show a lot more desire than Bowman.  Neither player would let the team down in pass catching and route running, if practice is anything to judge by.
I cannot make any comment about their blocking.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on July 09, 2018, 06:49:57 PM
Who would have thought Bowman would become public enemy number 1 by week 4? Holy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 09, 2018, 06:51:41 PM
Maybe he meant next year he'll be a family man and out of football as a result. That's fine as a life decision. OTOH keep it to yourself if you're being retained to develop and you won't be around for the team to benefit.

It may have been more of an assessment that it's not easy to rise up the depth chart and he may see greater talents above him. He may be or feel he's # 3 on the PR depth chart.

I haven't seen him in practice to know how he looks compared to Thompkins or Lankford.

I think it's a tough go for anybody sitting on the P.R., not much of a life and slim hope of getting an opportunity to earn a spot while earning a little more than spending money.  Ego and how they deal with it probably plays a huge role in the players the Bombers keep and who they let go. Throwing distant children and family into the mix adds to their dissatisfaction and impatience to get on with things.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Knocker42 on July 09, 2018, 06:52:59 PM
I'm thinking he has a bit to do to take the "Public Enemy" title from Ritchie Hall.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:09 PM
Who would have thought Bowman would become public enemy number 1 by week 4? Holy.

It's just ridiculous.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: NewBlue on July 09, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
If that tweet is in reference to not getting game time, then ya that doesn't look good and could get him cut.
But many things it could have meant......Maybe he's been told he's in for this week?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: BIGBLUE204 on July 09, 2018, 08:19:40 PM
If that tweet is in reference to not getting game time, then ya that doesn't look good and could get him cut.
But many things it could have meant......Maybe he's been told he's in for this week?

I'm leaning towards it being about football. There are a few tweets of his that all are complaining about lack of playing/development opportunities. I for one wouldn't mind him getting an opportunity. Bowman has left me a bit sour.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 09, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
Actually it wouldn't hurt to give one of the receivers on the PR a shot. The Lions are in the weaker team category so what better time to see what a new receiver can do.

The team will have more insight on Bowman. Is he hurt. Is he running routes called full out. Is he taking plays off. Don't know the answer. So on one hand want to see what he does now that Nichols is back. On the other hand wouldn't be the worst thing seeing a PR receiver in real game time.

Practice players looking good don't always look good in games. I haven't even seen them in practice but the coaches need to decide when is the right time.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 09, 2018, 09:25:17 PM
In reading through Washington's Twitter timeline over the last week, it's clear he's unhappy and is complaining about a lack of playing time.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 09, 2018, 09:44:20 PM
In reading through Washington's Twitter timeline over the last week, it's clear he's unhappy and is complaining about a lack of playing time.

Then he's going to lose his PR opportunity shortly. O'Shea shouldn't stand for that and needs to have a talk with him. If he doesn't want to be here then he should be gone.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 09, 2018, 09:49:21 PM
Then he's going to lose his PR opportunity shortly. O'Shea shouldn't stand for that and needs to have a talk with him. If he doesn't want to be here then he should be gone.
They're somewhat cryptic tweets, but there's a number of them and knowing the context of his situation, I think it's clear he's unhappy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 09, 2018, 09:51:50 PM
Here's his recent tweets:

Can?t progress being in a cage!!

Running out of time 🕓

First 4th being away from my family sucks!! Got a lot of thinking to do!
Happy 4th Everybody

Some of the best players never get a legitimate chance!

Next year decisions just keep getting easier  and easier for me!!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 09, 2018, 09:55:13 PM
Here's his recent tweets:

Can?t progress being in a cage!!

Running out of time 🕓

First 4th being away from my family sucks!! Got a lot of thinking to do!
Happy 4th Everybody

Some of the best players never get a legitimate chance!

Next year decisions just keep getting easier  and easier for me!!

Yeah. He'll be a distraction with that ego. It's clear he's not happy with those comments. He could be off the PR before the end of the week.

4 games in teams will be looking at players now available to replace some on their PR roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: ichabod_crane on July 09, 2018, 11:52:52 PM
If that tweet is in reference to not getting game time, then ya that doesn't look good and could get him cut.
But many things it could have meant......Maybe he's been told he's in for this week?

Maybe he's taking advice from Darian Durant on how to be a douche?!! :D


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 10, 2018, 04:34:49 AM
Yeah. He'll be a distraction with that ego. It's clear he's not happy with those comments. He could be off the PR before the end of the week.

4 games in teams will be looking at players now available to replace some on their PR roster.

Ya, Washington needs to read his recent BB history and see what happened to Thorpe.  One week after he quits and burns the bridge Dress goes down and Thorpe looks like a fool.  And where's Thorpe now?  At home eating Cheetos watching Lingerie Football League on boobtube.

If Thorpe had had one week more patience he'd probably be a BB star right now.

Patience Washington grasshopper, patience.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on July 10, 2018, 12:06:53 PM
Ya, Washington needs to read his recent BB history and see what happened to Thorpe.  One week after he quits and burns the bridge Dress goes down and Thorpe looks like a fool.  And where's Thorpe now?  At home eating Cheetos watching Lingerie Football League on boobtube.

If Thorpe had had one week more patience he'd probably be a BB star right now.

Patience Washington grasshopper, patience.


He definitely need a lot of patience. In case of injury, anyone would think Thompkins will be the next man in.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 13, 2018, 09:47:29 PM
Bombers Add National Defensive Back to Practice Roster

WINNIPEG, MB., July 11, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed national defensive back Jeff Hecht to the club's practice roster.

Hecht (5'9, 205, Saint Mary's University, September 24, 1985 in Edmonton, AB.) spent eight seasons in the CFL, making 75 tackles, four forced fumbles and one interception in 100 games played. In 2017, Hecht played in 18 games for the Saskatchewan Roughriders, making 21 tackles on defense, 11 special teams tackles and one forced fumble. Hecht has also spent time with the Calgary Stampeders and Montreal Alouettes.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 13, 2018, 09:57:28 PM
Rosters for game 5:

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming   2 hours ago
Team-issued depth chart/roster as #Bombers travel to face the #BCLions Saturday.

Chandler Fenner is a game-time decision. Leggett has been the dimeback/SLB in practice this week, and Sayles at halfback. Trent Corney and CFL sp.teams tackle leader Shayne Gauthier to 6-Game IL.

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton   7 hours ago
#Bombers depth chart and roster. In:  Augustine, Hecht, Wild, Henry. Out: LaFrance (1-game), Gauthier (6-game), Alexander (1-game), Corney (6-game). #wfp

Farhan Lalji   @FarhanLaljiTSN   8 hours ago
Its official. @TravisLulay will start for the @BCLions tomorrow night vs #Bombers. No surprise. @CFLonTSN @TSN_Sports @TSN1040 @bclionsden @CFL_News @cfl

Also Winston Rose gets the start over Marcel Young in #BCLions secondary, as had been the indication based on reps all week. @CFLonTSN @TSN1040
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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on July 13, 2018, 10:13:32 PM
What are the changes for BC besides Lulay?
That secondary and O line are not CFL caliber.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 13, 2018, 10:26:19 PM
What are the changes for BC besides Lulay?
That secondary and O line are not CFL caliber.

Farhan Lalji   @FarhanLaljiTSN   8 hours ago
Its official. @TravisLulay will start for the @BCLions tomorrow night vs #Bombers. No surprise. @CFLonTSN @TSN_Sports @TSN1040 @bclionsden @CFL_News @cfl

Also Winston Rose gets the start over Marcel Young in #BCLions secondary, as had been the indication based on reps all week. @CFLonTSN @TSN1040

The Lions also made a couple of other interesting roster moves: defensive back Marcell Young, who has also struggled for much of the season, has been replaced by Winston Rose in the starting line up and receiver Kevin Elliott will make his B.C. debut.
http://3downnation.com/2018/07/13/quarterback-travis-lulay-start-b-c-lions-bombers/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/07/13/quarterback-travis-lulay-start-b-c-lions-bombers/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 15, 2018, 12:07:01 AM
WPG Blue Bombers  @Wpg_BlueBombers
Tonight's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #22 Chandler Fenner, #57 Manase Foketi

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiG5wKHW4AAPaKw.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiG5wE5WkAAealj.jpg)

Transactions July 13:

WPG ADD  NAT Johnny AUGUSTINE (RB)    Guelph - from practice roster
WPG ADD  NAT Jeff HECHT (DB)    Saint Mary's - from practice roster
WPG ADD  NAT Tylor HENRY  (WR)    Alberta - from practice roster
WPG ADD FROM INJURED INT Ian WILD (LB)    Mercyhurst College
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Brandon ALEXANDER (DB)    Central Florida - to Jul-20
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Trent CORNEY (DL)    Virginia - to Sep-01^^ (18-Aug)
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Shayne GAUTHIER (LB)    Laval - to Sep-01^^ (18-Aug)
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Kienan LAFRANCE (RB)    Manitoba - to Jul-20


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 16, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
Transactions July 13:

WPG REM UNS  INT Robert PRIESTER (DB)    Wyoming

CFL transactions page shows Priester was released from the practice roster but the Bombers still have him listed on their practice roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 16, 2018, 09:31:56 PM
Transactions July 13:

WPG REM UNS  INT Robert PRIESTER (DB)    Wyoming

CFL transactions page shows Priester was released from the practice roster but the Bombers still have him listed on their practice roster.
This guy was on our PR?  First time I've heard of this guy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: kkc60 on July 16, 2018, 09:42:09 PM
This guy was on our PR?  First time I've heard of this guy.
Hey got bodied in our 2nd preseason game and was added to the PR with Sayles and Cooper.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 17, 2018, 09:32:42 PM
WINNIPEG, MB., July 17, 2018 -   The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed National defensive back Abu Conteh to the practice roster.

Conteh (6'1, 202, Grambling State University, October 2, 1995 in Sierra Leone) was drafted in the third round of the 2017 CFL Draft by the Blue Bombers. In 2017, he played two games for the Blue Bombers. Conteh spent his final two collegiate seasons with the Grambling State University Tigers. In his senior season, Conteh made nine total tackles.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/17/bombers-add-national-defensive-back-practice-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/17/bombers-add-national-defensive-back-practice-roster/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 18, 2018, 08:31:39 PM
Transactions July 17:

Practice roster:
WPG ADD  NAT Abubakar CONTEH  (DB)    Grambling State
WPG ADD  INT Robert PRIESTER (DB)    Wyoming

Not sure why Priester was removed from the practice roster then added a back a few days later. The team was under the practice roster limit.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 18, 2018, 08:33:17 PM
Not sure why Priester was removed from the practice roster then added a back a few days later. The team was under the practice roster limit.
Maybe we're super tight to the cap and Walters needed to save $150. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 20, 2018, 09:55:01 PM
BOMBERS ADD DEFENSIVE BACK TO PRACTICE ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., July 19, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed international defensive back Chris Humes.

Humes (6-00, 200, Arkansas State University, July 31, 1994 in Birmingham, AL.) was with the team in this past training camp. He played four seasons with the Arkansas State Red Wolves, recording 129 total tackles. Humes signed as an undrafted free agent with the Oakland Raiders in 2017.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/19/bombers-add-defensive-back-practice-roster/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/19/bombers-add-defensive-back-practice-roster/)

Humes was previously signed on May 15 and released on final cut-down day (June 9).


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 20, 2018, 10:06:29 PM
Rosters for Game 6:

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming 
Team-issued depth/roster as the #Bombers take on the #Argos Saturday afternoon. Chandler Fenner will miss a second-straight contest. And *another Canadian special-teamer has landed on the 6-Game Injured List, LB Frank Renaud.

Jeff Hamilton   @jeffkhamilton
No Chandler Fenner for a second straight week. Brandon Alexander draws in after missing the last three games; Kienan LaFrance also in the game after missing last week. Leggett and Randle, who missed two practices this week, are good to go. #wfp

Ed Tait    @EdTaitWFC
The #Bombers depth chart vs. Toronto features three changes to the 46-man roster: in are RB Kienan LaFrance, DB Brandon Alexander and DB Abu Conteh, out are LB Chandler Fenner, LB Frank Renaud and WR Tylor Henry

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 21, 2018, 06:13:30 PM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers
Today's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #8 Chris Randle, #57 Manase Foketi

Mike Hogan   @MikeHoganArgos
Today's scratches. Argos: DJ Sacky, J Ralph. Bombers: C. Randle, M. Foketi. #CFL


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dipqg1lX4AEJLw1.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DipqgzGXkAAhPh5.jpg)



Transactions July 20:

WPG ADD  NAT Abubakar CONTEH  (DB)    Grambling State  -from practice roster
WPG ADD FROM INJURED INT Brandon ALEXANDER (DB)    Central Florida
WPG ADD FROM INJURED NAT Kienan LAFRANCE  (RB)    Manitoba
WPG DEL  NAT Tylor HENRY  (WR)    Alberta  - added to practice roster
WPG TRF TO INJURED INT Chandler FENNER (DB)    Holy Cross - to Jul-26
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Frank RENAUD (LB)    Windsor - to Jul-26


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: In Motion on July 21, 2018, 06:28:08 PM
Randle good to go??


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 21, 2018, 06:29:06 PM
Randle good to go??

Not according to another poster. Randle and Fenner are both out. See above: Foketi and Randle out. Fenner already on 1 game IR.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2018, 06:29:59 PM
Randle good to go??
no

What the heck!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: In Motion on July 21, 2018, 06:30:57 PM
Latest I heard was from CJOB pre-game show.
It sounded very definite that he would not be playing.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 21, 2018, 11:39:37 PM
Frederic Plesius agrees to terms with Bombers

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have agreed to terms with Canadian linebacker Frederic Plesius, per sources.
The 30-year-old registered seven special teams tackles in seven games before missing the final 11 contests of the season due to injury in 2017. He finished second in the CFL with 23 special teams tackles in 2016 as a member of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.

Plesius was selected in the second round, 10th overall in the 2012 CFL draft and played 66 games with the Ticats over four seasons registering 58 special teams tackles, 25 defensive tackles, one sack and one interception. He was released in January by the Montreal Alouettes to avoid paying his roster bonus and has since been a free agent.

http://www.3downnation.com/2018/07/21/frederic-plesius-agrees-terms-bombers/ (http://www.3downnation.com/2018/07/21/frederic-plesius-agrees-terms-bombers/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 23, 2018, 09:47:34 PM
BOMBERS TRADE ADARIUS BOWMAN TO MONTREAL

WINNIPEG, MB., July 23, 2018 -   The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today have traded receiver Adarius Bowman to the Montreal Alouettes in exchange for a conditional eighth round draft choice in the 2019 CFL Draft.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/23/bombers-trade-adarius-bowman-montreal/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/23/bombers-trade-adarius-bowman-montreal/)



Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on July 24, 2018, 07:04:37 AM
How can anything be lower than an 8th round.?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TBURGESS on July 24, 2018, 01:48:01 PM
How can anything be lower than an 8th round.?
BC gave up a neg list player for Lemon... Does that count?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bluengold204 on July 24, 2018, 02:00:27 PM
How can anything be lower than an 8th round.?

A conditional 8th round, we could still get nothing lol


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on July 24, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
BC gave up a neg list player for Lemon... Does that count?
A neg lister is a player, now.  Conditional 8th?  I guess its almost a 7th being its Montreals pick, but still, it is conditional...  if AB doesn't meet the conditions, we actually lose on the deal, because it costs something for the paper it was written on... ;)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: DM83 on July 24, 2018, 02:16:50 PM
Just a salary dump is worth it.
Plus whoever that put in will likely produce more?

Sad for Bowman.
Good Luck!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 24, 2018, 03:12:28 PM
BOMBERS ADD TWO TO ROSTER

WINNIPEG, MB., July 24, 2018 -  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has signed national linebacker Frederic Plesius to the active roster, and international receiver Brisly Estime to the practice roster

Plesius (6'1, 245, Laval University, February 10, 1988 in Laval, QC.) has spent five seasons in the CFL, playing in a combined 73 games for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats and Montreal Alouettes, making 90 total tackles, one sack and one interception. In 2016, Plesius recorded 26 total tackles, including 23 tackles on special teams. Plesius spent his four-year college career with the Laval Rouge et Or, recording 123.5 tackles and winning two Vanier Cup Championships.

Estime (5'9, 185, Syracuse University, December, 1992 in Delray Beach, FL.) played four seasons with the Syracuse Orange, catching 103 passes for 1,208 yards and 7 touchdowns. Estime is the ACC record-holder with a career average of 18 yards per punt return. In 2017, Estime signed with the New York Jets as an undrafted free agent.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/24/bombers-add-two-roster-4/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/07/24/bombers-add-two-roster-4/)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 24, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
I thought Estime's name sounded familiar. He was signed on May 16th but failed his physical so he was released the same day.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 24, 2018, 03:36:50 PM
According to Bauming, Frank Renaud had season ending surgery. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on July 24, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
which makes sense why we signed Plesius..equal trade off there and probably a bit of a bonus as Plesius could step in and take some LB reps


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 24, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
which makes sense why we signed Plesius..equal trade off there and probably a bit of a bonus as Plesius could step in and take some LB reps
That bonus might have contributed to the Bowman trade as I'm sure Plesius would be making more than Renaud.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on July 24, 2018, 03:45:17 PM
That bonus might have contributed to the Bowman trade as I'm sure Plesius would be making more than Renaud.

Not much more. He was on the scrap heap.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 24, 2018, 04:32:30 PM
According to Bauming, Frank Renaud had season ending surgery. 

Yeah, that's what I thought unfortunately. Tough luck for the young guy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 25, 2018, 02:36:29 AM
How are all these NAT STers getting dinged?  I'm not seeing it in the games.  What's up with that?  They are only playing like 10 plays a game.

Maybe after each loss (which can be attributed in part to bad ST play) MOS is pushing the STers hard to be more physical.  Maybe they're taking it too far?  A shut-down ST is great, but not if your NATs are dropping like flies.

Very weird overall.  At least the league seems to have a lot of spare NAT STers around for us to pick up.  And it's not like they cost much.

BTW, best of luck in their recovery to our injured NATs, especially the longtime Bombers.  Those guys play hard every week and are more important than most know.  (At least Miller isn't hurt.)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: pjrocksmb on July 25, 2018, 02:56:45 AM
How are all these NAT STers getting dinged?  I'm not seeing it in the games.  What's up with that?  They are only playing like 10 plays a game.

Maybe after each loss (which can be attributed in part to bad ST play) MOS is pushing the STers hard to be more physical.  Maybe they're taking it too far?  A shut-down ST is great, but not if your NATs are dropping like flies.

Very weird overall.  At least the league seems to have a lot of spare NAT STers around for us to pick up.  And it's not like they cost much.

BTW, best of luck in their recovery to our injured NATs, especially the longtime Bombers.  Those guys play hard every week and are more important than most know.  (At least Miller isn't hurt.)


we want all our players to play hard and injuries happen, not a big deal and we have got some replacments

while I'm not happy to see a number of guys lost for the season, it's next up and a fact of life in pro ball


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on July 25, 2018, 03:21:53 AM
A lot of stuff happens on ST's that people never see on TV.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Doublezero on July 25, 2018, 12:31:49 PM
A lot of stuff happens on ST's that people never see on TV.
True! Shayne Gauthier flat out violated Esks Jordan Beaulieu on punt cover in that first home game. I have a lot more respect for Gauthier after witnessing that. Guy is a freaking baller.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 25, 2018, 12:36:44 PM
True! Shayne Gauthier flat out violated Esks Jordan Beaulieu on punt cover in that first home game. I have a lot more respect for Gauthier after witnessing that. Guy is a freaking baller.

Don't remember that play but really liked Gauthier and how he was playing.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Doublezero on July 25, 2018, 12:40:21 PM
Don't remember that play but really liked Gauthier and how he was playing.
Me too. Thought at first he should've given up jersey #44 to Bighill but now I'm glad he didn't. Gauthier is a violent (controlled violence within the rules mostly) ST player and glad he's on our team. :)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 25, 2018, 05:13:12 PM
Not much more. He was on the scrap heap.

That's true but he's a longer term CFL veteran and that raises the salary accordingly in the CFLPA. Renaud is still on an ELC as far as I know.

Might be a $10K pro rated difference.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on July 25, 2018, 05:35:09 PM
That's true but he's a longer term CFL veteran and that raises the salary accordingly in the CFLPA. Renaud is still on an ELC as far as I know.

Might be a $10K pro rated difference.

Long term veterans get protected in terms of the date their salaries are guaranteed, but it doesn't entitle them to a higher minimum salary.

Plesius was a high second rounder, so his entry level contract might have been somewhat higher than the minimum, and he may have gotten a raise when he was extended by Hamilton (who thought they were going to have him play a larger role). But once he was released by Montreal and sat on the shelf all the way through training camp and the first 5 games of the season, there is no telling what he signed for. He may very well be below $60k.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on July 25, 2018, 06:05:35 PM
Long term veterans get protected in terms of the date their salaries are guaranteed, but it doesn't entitle them to a higher minimum salary.

Plesius was a high second rounder, so his entry level contract might have been somewhat higher than the minimum, and he may have gotten a raise when he was extended by Hamilton (who thought they were going to have him play a larger role). But once he was released by Montreal and sat on the shelf all the way through training camp and the first 5 games of the season, there is no telling what he signed for. He may very well be below $60k.

I doubt he was holding out a third of a season for a higher salary. If there is a candidate for close to minimum salary, it's an unemployed STer a third of the way into the season.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 25, 2018, 06:48:55 PM
I doubt he was holding out a third of a season for a higher salary. If there is a candidate for close to minimum salary, it's an unemployed STer a third of the way into the season.

My point was that the minimum for players increases with seniority above the ELC for 1st years players.

It has nothing to do with whether he was sitting around and not playing waiting for a bigger deal.

So I would think he would get whatever is mandated for his time in the CFL and not some sort of bigger deal.

If that premise is incorrect I will stand corrected. I know that's the case in the NFL where min salaries go up and always thought that was the case as seasons added up.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on July 25, 2018, 09:13:26 PM
My point was that the minimum for players increases with seniority above the ELC for 1st years players.

It has nothing to do with whether he was sitting around and not playing waiting for a bigger deal.

So I would think he would get whatever is mandated for his time in the CFL and not some sort of bigger deal.

If that premise is incorrect I will stand corrected. I know that's the case in the NFL where min salaries go up and always thought that was the case as seasons added up.

Pretty sure that's not the case in the CFL.  ELC's have to be for 2 years, vets can sign for 1.  Other than that, there is no separate min for ELCs or vets... or for nats...  and while higher drafted players usually get paid more, its not because there is a rule.  You can pay a first overall a min salary as far as I can see...  he just probably won't sign with you.  Or something happens like Wilder last year... international player on his first deal, generally gets min wage unless he's Manzeil...


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: the paw on July 25, 2018, 09:38:54 PM
My point was that the minimum for players increases with seniority above the ELC for 1st years players.

It has nothing to do with whether he was sitting around and not playing waiting for a bigger deal.

So I would think he would get whatever is mandated for his time in the CFL and not some sort of bigger deal.

If that premise is incorrect I will stand corrected. I know that's the case in the NFL where min salaries go up and always thought that was the case as seasons added up.

I believe you are correct on the NFL, but that isn?t a feature of the CFL collective agreement.  The only tangible benefit to seniority is the provision that if they cut a vet after a certain date, he gets his full salary.  The more seniority you have, the earlier that date is. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 25, 2018, 10:01:50 PM
Ok. Good to know. I stand corrected then.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 26, 2018, 03:32:54 PM
Rosters for game 7:

Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
#Bombers release practice roster quarterback Mitchell Gale. QB Alex Ross is nearing a return from the 6-Game Injured List.

Chandler Fenner will miss a third-straight game for the #Bombers due to injury.

Jeff Hamilton
#Bombers depth chart and roster ahead of tomorrow's game against the #Argos. Kenbrell Thompkins is in for Adarius Bowman and Chandler Fenner will miss a third straight game. #wfp

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
The #Bombers depth chart for tomorrow features two changes: Plesius and Thompkins on, Bowman and K. Wilson off.

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 26, 2018, 09:23:38 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions - July 26, 2018

WINNIPEG, MB., July 26, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has released International quarterback Mitchell Gale from the practice roster.

Transactions July 26:

WPG ADD  INT Kenbrell THOMPKINS (WR)    Cincinnati  - from practice roster
WPG DEL  INT Timothy FLANDERS (RB)    Sam Houston State  - added to practice roster
WPG DEL  INT Kyrie WILSON (LB)    Fresno State  - added to practice roster
WPG EXT ON INJURED INT Chandler FENNER (DB)    Holy Cross - to Aug-09
WPG REM UNS  INT Mitchell GALE (QB)    Abilene Christian - released from practice roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 26, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
Wow Flanders on the practice roster!


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on July 26, 2018, 09:46:32 PM
I can't see Flanders getting on the field this year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: rubanski on July 26, 2018, 10:21:29 PM
Watch out, TO needs an RB with the way their injuries are going!


Rookie or not, do we like Fogg at CB instead of Cooper?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 26, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
Wow Flanders on the practice roster!

Time to fish or cut bait already, hopefully they're paying him a decent salary, Flanders deserves a chance to play ball somewhere else.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 27, 2018, 12:08:56 AM
Time to fish or cut bait already, hopefully they're paying him a decent salary, Flanders deserves a chance to play ball somewhere else.

If they were willing to pay him a decent salary they would have moved him to the 1 game IR.  Ditto with Wilson.

This saves some SMS but how long will these players stick around if another team calls?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on July 27, 2018, 11:50:43 AM
If they were willing to pay him a decent salary they would have moved him to the 1 game IR.  Ditto with Wilson.

This saves some SMS but how long will these players stick around if another team calls?

Depends on the player and how much they believe on this team... also depends what team is calling.

Spooner chose to stay last year.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on July 27, 2018, 12:21:11 PM
he could also be on the PR pulling in his game day money like he would if on the IR or the 46...a guy on the PR can make whatever a team wants to pay him, not just the minimum PR amount.

I wouldn't read too much into it, and highly doubt he would jump ship...but then again u never know eh?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 27, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
he could also be on the PR pulling in his game day money like he would if on the IR or the 46...a guy on the PR can make whatever a team wants to pay him, not just the minimum PR amount.

I wouldn't read too much into it, and highly doubt he would jump ship...but then again u never know eh?
They way our roster is set up related to the ratio (the RB position is clearly a NAT position), there no way Flanders is playing anytime soon.  If another teams RB gets injured, and there is interest in Flanders, he'd be stupid not to take the opportunity. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 27, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
he could also be on the PR pulling in his game day money like he would if on the IR or the 46...a guy on the PR can make whatever a team wants to pay him, not just the minimum PR amount.

I wouldn't read too much into it, and highly doubt he would jump ship...but then again u never know eh?

That's true in theory but if that was really the case there would be no disadvantage to putting him on the 1 game IR. He could still practice and be activate during the week of any game.

Keeping him on the 1 game IR secures his contract with him and protects him as an asset. PR to a much smaller degree. He could choose to leave tomorrow if he wanted.

Spooner choose to stay on the PR as many rookie players do but Flanders has been in the CFL since 2015? Actually I'm not really sure if Spooner was on the PR last year of on the 2 man DR ( where I thought ).

So I'd be surprised is Flanders was getting anything near a full game check. Why would he?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on July 27, 2018, 01:13:10 PM
Depending on the money, is it worth to keep Flanders around with the depth we have at RB. It also opens up a PR spot.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 27, 2018, 01:37:12 PM
Depending on the money, is it worth to keep Flanders around with the depth we have at RB. It also opens up a PR spot.

If it wasn't for the ratio aspect then yes. Unfortunately this is something that's been discussed since TC.

No room at the inn for Flanders. He's versatile but not versatile enough IMO. He won't be a starting receiver or returner. Ratio and Canadian depth at RB eliminate that as well from the looks of it.

Again. Too bad nice kid. Wrong passport.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Ridermania on July 27, 2018, 02:26:08 PM
I think if a team gets an injury at RB the next week or so, they may snag Flanders off the practice roster.

Assume he wants to play, not sit around and make $500 a week practicing.

Not sure who is looking for a RB?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GCn18 on July 27, 2018, 02:27:41 PM
I think if a team gets an injury at RB the next week or so, they may snag Flanders off the practice roster.

Assume he wants to play, not sit around and make $500 a week practicing.

Not sure who is looking for a RB?

Flanders has not been on the PR and has been getting his full game cheques.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: theaardvark on July 27, 2018, 02:30:37 PM
I think if a team gets an injury at RB the next week or so, they may snag Flanders off the practice roster.

Assume he wants to play, not sit around and make $500 a week practicing.

Not sure who is looking for a RB?

First, he has to want to leave...  players on PR can be offered contracts, they don't have to accept them.

Second, I highly doubt he's making $500 a week on the PR:

The CFL Practice Agreement (see Appendix I of the CBA) allows the team and player to agree to a weekly salary (not tied to games). The Section 17.02 of the 2014 CBA sets minimum practice roster agreement compensation at $750/week ($15,000 over twenty weeks of regular season) plus housing or housing allowance. Housing or housing allowance is not counted against the salary cap, but practice roster salaries are.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 27, 2018, 05:04:24 PM
I think if a team gets an injury at RB the next week or so, they may snag Flanders off the practice roster.

Assume he wants to play, not sit around and make $500 a week practicing.

Not sure who is looking for a RB?

I can't think of a team without a good primary back right now but opportunities should present themselves shortly as RB's are a very high injury group.  For O'Shea to move Flanders to the P.R. says a lot, despite the kind words and accolades for his dedication he really doesn't have a use or a plan for him.  The writing is clearly on the wall, it's past time for Flanders to break rank, stand up for his own interest and pursue opportunity elsewhere.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 27, 2018, 06:27:06 PM
Lions just lost Rutley to the 6 game IR so there might be an opportunity for him there. He started 1 game in Vancouver before coming to Winnipeg.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bowlerdude on July 27, 2018, 07:27:59 PM
BC is pretty beat up at RB right now, yeah.

I can't see a ton of interest in plucking an import RB off of someone's practice roster. But if an opportunity is out there for Flanders I certainly wouldn't hold anything against him for taking it.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on July 27, 2018, 07:30:14 PM
I could see Flanders in BC.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on July 27, 2018, 08:10:20 PM
Lions just lost Rutley to the 6 game IR so there might be an opportunity for him there. He started 1 game in Vancouver before coming to Winnipeg.
That does make some sense.  All depends on how much confidence they have in their backups. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Blue In BC on July 27, 2018, 08:30:24 PM
Flanders has not been on the PR and has been getting his full game cheques.

Sure on the 6 game IR. I don't think they can or would want to release a vet injured during TC. Would be bad PR.

Now is a different question and I don't know the answer. Doesn't hurt to keep him on the PR aside from a PR spot for another player they might want to look at.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: bowlerdude on July 27, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
That does make some sense.  All depends on how much confidence they have in their backups. 

I mean, Rutley was already their 3rd stringer. They don't even have a healthy RB on their roster OR practice roster right now. Rainey might be able to play anyway, but he's nicked. So it could happen if they'd rather go that route than try to find a new guy.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on July 31, 2018, 07:07:02 AM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers   Jul 27
Today's @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #21 Brendan Morgan, #57 Manase Foketi

Mike Hogan   @MikeHoganArgos  Jul 27
#Argos scratches tonight are Brandon Burks and DJ Sackey. Wilder is dressed. #CFL

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 07, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
Transactions Aug 6th:

WPG ADD FROM INJURED NAT Shayne GAUTHIER (LB)    Laval - Removed from 6-game injured list
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Frederic PLESIUS (LB)    Laval - to Sep-28^^ (09-Sep)


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on August 07, 2018, 03:08:33 PM
Transactions Aug 6th:

WPG ADD FROM INJURED NAT Shayne GAUTHIER (LB)    Laval - Removed from 6-game injured list
WPG TRF TO INJURED NAT Frederic PLESIUS (LB)    Laval - to Sep-28^^ (09-Sep)
Plesius on the 6 game IR already!!??


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 07, 2018, 04:25:58 PM
Plesius on the 6 game IR already!!??
It doesn't look long term as he's jogging at practice. Maybe he just needs to get in football shape and they are keeping him around as insurance.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: M.O.A.B. on August 07, 2018, 04:42:37 PM
It doesn't look long term as he's jogging at practice. Maybe he just needs to get in football shape and they are keeping him around as insurance.

agree. renaud is already done for the season so better keep plesius hidden in the ir just in case.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 09, 2018, 05:11:29 PM
Winnipeg Blue Bombers Transactions - August 8, 2018

WINNIPEG, MB., August 9, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has released International receiver Brisly Estime from the practice roster.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 09, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
Darrin Bauming   @DarrinBauming
Team issued depth/rosters as the #Bombers host the #TiCats Friday. It looks like one DB will be amongst the scratches, submitted one hour prior to kickoff.

Bob Irving   @BobIrvingCJOB
As reported earlier, moe Leggett will play for Bombers Friday but he`s listed to start at Sam LB instead of def. halfback. Expect to see him at both. Stay tuned.

Ed Tait   @EdTaitWFC
The #Bombbers depth chart for tomorrow features two changes to the 46-man roster. On are Chandler Fenner and Shayne Gauthier, off are John Rush and Frederic Plesius

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 09, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
Transactions Aug 9th:

WPG ADD FROM INJURED INT Chandler FENNER (DB)    Holy Cross
WPG ADD FROM INJURED NAT Qadr SPOONER  (OL)    McGill
WPG DEL  NAT John RUSH  (LB)    Guelph - added to practice roster
WPG EXT ON INJURED INT Alex ROSS (QB)    Coastal Carolina - to Sep-28^^ (09-Sep)
WPG TRF TO SUSPENDED NAT Qadr SPOONER  (OL)    McGill
WPG REM UNS  INT Brisley ESTIME (WR)    Syracuse - removed from practice roster


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2018, 08:31:25 PM
Is this the first time this year we have our full compliment of starters available to us?

Looks it to me.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on August 09, 2018, 08:33:37 PM
Looks like Breaux is playing this week. He missed some practices this week and sounded like he was questionable.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2018, 11:29:13 PM
Where is catfan with some insider information..


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 10, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Looks like Breaux is playing this week. He missed some practices this week and sounded like he was questionable.

Looks like it. Although four corners are on the roster so it's possible he's a legitimate game-time decision or they don't want to show their hand earlier than they have to that he's going to miss a week.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gbill2004 on August 10, 2018, 12:31:42 PM
Looks like it. Although four corners are on the roster so it's possible he's a legitimate game-time decision or they don't want to show their hand earlier than they have to that he's going to miss a week.
Good point.  He may still be one of the 2 inactive. 


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: Pigskin on August 10, 2018, 01:12:54 PM
The Catsfan only shows up if the Cats win. Nothing to say other wise.


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 14, 2018, 12:47:29 AM
WPG Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers  Aug 10
Tonight`s @RedRiverMutual starting lineup.
Inactives: #26 Tyneil Cooper, #57 Manase Foketi

Hamilton Tiger-Cats   @Ticats   Aug 10
Team News:
- Inactives: Delvin Breaux (24), Julian Howsare (95).

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Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: booch on August 14, 2018, 12:24:09 PM
why post this from a game last week?


Title: Re: Blue Bombers roster - 2017-2018
Post by: gobombersgo on August 14, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
I posted it so we have a record of who was scratched from the game.