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Title: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on September 16, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
With the 2017/2018 hockey season around the corner here is the new thread for discussions relative to the current season.  The 2016/2017 thread has been "un-stickied" but still available below.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 16, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
A couple of storylines as training camp opens today. Enjoy!

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play)

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/jets-goalie-mason-embraces-pressure (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/jets-goalie-mason-embraces-pressure)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 17, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
It will be interesting who makes the roster, and who stays with the Moose.

Players that signed with the Jets (Non-Roster):

Kyle Connor- excellent chance he will make the top 9 or even top 6 forwards.  A lock for the roster.
Jack Roslovic- led AHL Moose last year.  May be a call up during the season if there are injuries or sub-par performances by 4th line
Brendan Lemieux- Jets are big on him not sure why.  He is undisciplined, and has not really lived up to expectations
Jansen Harkins-
Michael Spacek
Mason Appleton
Chase De Leo
JC Lipon
Buddy Robinson
James Lodge
Tucker Poolman- good chance he is a bottom 6 defender
Sami Niku- looking great.  Slim chance he makes the lineup, but better chance he is a call up later in the year
Nelson Nogier- possible call up
Julian Melciori- possible call up
Logan Stanley
Jan Kostalek
Cameron Schilling
Eric Comrie
Jamie Phillips


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Buckzumhoff on September 17, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
Can they win 35 games this year. ? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 18, 2017, 12:06:58 AM
Can they win 35 games this year. ? 

???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 18, 2017, 02:35:40 AM
No idea how they will do this year.

I do know they have skill and overall talent. Do they match up?   Going to be fun to see.

We should be ok and make the playoffs

Go Jets Go



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 18, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
A lot of stars on the ice tonight ....... so let's hope they match the nine goals by Vegas.

Hopefully the after game summations on Poolman & Connor are encouraging & of course HellB.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/game-day-jets-host-wild-in-pre-season-opener/c-291128014 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/game-day-jets-host-wild-in-pre-season-opener/c-291128014)

Quote
Tonight's Lineup

Forwards: Patrik Laine, Mathieu Perreault, Kyle Connor, Brendan Lemieux, Mark Scheifele, Bryan Little, Adam Lowry, Mike Sgarbossa, Blake Wheeler, Nikolaj Ehlers, Joel Armia and Marko Dano

Defence: Logan Stanley, Dustin Byfuglien, Toby Enstrom, Tucker Poolman, Ben Chiarot and Nelson Nogier

Connor Hellebuyck will start in goal and Eric Comrie will back up.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 18, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on September 19, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score.

Close lol 3-2 loss in a shoot out. God, I hate shoot outs...

First two periods definitely looked like a pre-season game. 3rd looked better.

Lemieux is definitely a physical player, threw his body around everywhere; I forget how fast Blake Wheeler is sometimes; Ehlers can still dance pretty well with the puck; Laine got his obligatory snipe from the top of the face off circle to tie it up and threw a nice check, sticking up for Sheif's after he got rocked.

Helly was decent, but Wild's Michaluk (sp?) was better. Jets threw everything at him in the 3rd. Possession seemed to favour us, so Helly wasn't tested as much. Really looking forward to seeing Mason.

The new slashing penalty is going to take a game or two to get used to it. Pretty sure that's what made up a majority of the PP's for the Jets.
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 19, 2017, 12:01:38 PM
Close lol 3-2 loss in a shoot out. God, I hate shoot outs...

First two periods definitely looked like a pre-season game. 3rd looked better.

Lemieux is definitely a physical player, threw his body around everywhere; I forget how fast Blake Wheeler is sometimes; Ehlers can still dance pretty well with the puck; Laine got his obligatory snipe from the top of the face off circle to tie it up and threw a nice check, sticking up for Sheif's after he got rocked.

Helly was decent, but Wild's Michaluk (sp?) was better. Jets threw everything at him in the 3rd. Possession seemed to favour us, so Helly wasn't tested as much. Really looking forward to seeing Mason.

The new slashing penalty is going to take a game or two to get used to it. Pretty sure that's what made up a majority of the PP's for the Jets.
 

Agree with everything here. Also, was there 100 or 200 penalties?

Lots of rust, but it was certainly on both sides.

Thought the renos were really sharp. I hadn't been to the arena in almost on 3 years


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on September 19, 2017, 02:47:58 PM
Hellebuyck spent 16:02 on the PP and 11:27 shorthanded, for a total of 27 minutes 29 seconds of icetime with one team on the PP


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 19, 2017, 03:26:42 PM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score in penalties taken by both teams.

 ;)

Pretty typical pre-season game. The upgrades to the arena* are excellent, so that was nice to see. BellMTS Place is a terribly lame name, though. Maybe gotta start calling it The Hangar...? ???

Lemieux going to toe to toe with Foligno was probably the highlight of the night. Laine's goal was pretty nasty.

* (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870))


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 19, 2017, 08:14:46 PM
It's going to be a long season if the reffing is this strict/bad. Felt player's have been using their stick to tap/slash much less over the years but now the league wants
even more to be "cleaned" up ......... get the players to wear the former length gloves & we'd have less ow'eeees &      ah whats the use ...... spilt milk.

Caught a session of non lineup yesterday & both sessions today at the IcePlex.  Noon, extreme high tempo, was the Jets team plus Stanley, Poolman, Connor
Finally saw Mason, who was okay.    Our squad is sooooooo fast & skilled compared to the younger mix of players
Myers, both days, looks so ready & Kulikov is very disciplined defensively, & Hendricks has a lot of fun out there while playing a smart game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 01:11:34 PM
;)

Pretty typical pre-season game. The upgrades to the arena* are excellent, so that was nice to see. BellMTS Place is a terribly lame name, though. Maybe gotta start calling it The Hangar...? ???

Lemieux going to toe to toe with Foligno was probably the highlight of the night. Laine's goal was pretty nasty.

* (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870))
I enjoyed seeing Laine beasting the Wild player who hit Scheifele to the ground.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 20, 2017, 03:15:33 PM
Anyone hear what the lines are tonight?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 03:54:19 PM
Anyone hear what the lines are tonight?

https://twitter.com/WpgJetsPR/status/910477780281905153/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fjets%2Fnews%2Fgame-day-jets-oilers-clash-in-winnipeg%2Fc-291191872

Looks more potent than the line up on Monday. Top 2 lines still intact but with way more depth on defense and Mason in net.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 20, 2017, 04:03:35 PM
https://twitter.com/WpgJetsPR/status/910477780281905153/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fjets%2Fnews%2Fgame-day-jets-oilers-clash-in-winnipeg%2Fc-291191872

Looks more potent than the line up on Monday. Top 2 lines still intact but with way more depth on defense and Mason in net.


Thx dude!

Ya i like it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 20, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
I enjoyed seeing Laine beasting the Wild player who hit Scheifele to the ground.

Yeah, that was a pretty risky hit for a meaningless pre-season game. I'm glad Laine stepped in for his teammate.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 21, 2017, 03:09:24 AM
Jets look crappy in preseason same old same old!

Buff is a loser or a dog chasing it's tail.

Trade him we don't need his crap any longer!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on September 21, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
Pretty boring game to watch. Nothing really stood out for me.

Jets stopped skating in the second period and it cost them. Third period was better but again, couldn't find the back of the net.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 22, 2017, 01:26:13 AM
Conner is starting to look like hes going to be pretty good. I also like Poolman. They need time yet but they kinda remind me of how Scheif and Morrissey looked at first.

Lowry, Armie, Copp  ...  This may end up being a great line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 22, 2017, 01:42:07 AM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia

Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 22, 2017, 02:15:24 AM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia

Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.


This all depends if Conner stays up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on September 22, 2017, 12:06:10 PM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia

Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.

I really don't think we're going to see anything stand out until the last 3 preseason games. Considering we're about to head into that stretch now we'll likely see more of a separation.

Hellebuyck hasn't really been tested, and Manson deserved a better game. not sure if Maurice intends to alternate those two for the remainder of the preseason, or if Comrie and Hutchinson will see full games. although in my mind - Comrie and Hutchinson are already slotted to head to the Moose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 23, 2017, 01:00:48 AM
Comrie will need at least two more years on the Moose to get a chance on the Jets.  I doubt he will amount to anything more than a backup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 26, 2017, 01:42:25 AM
Laine


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 28, 2017, 11:53:51 AM
I checked out most of the game last night, and we are starting to look more ourselves (to be expected as preseason progresses). Looking pretty good, I thought! Morrissey is our top D. Excited to have Myers back- he will be huge in shoring up from our awful D last year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 28, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
I checked out most of the game last night, and we are starting to look more ourselves (to be expected as preseason progresses). Looking pretty good, I thought! Morrissey is our top D. Excited to have Myers back- he will be huge in shoring up from our awful D last year.

Kulikov is a really solid addition, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 29, 2017, 08:11:13 PM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Poolman on the other hand ........ he is such a valuable up & comer.

Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit

Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing         Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 30, 2017, 02:05:48 AM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.

Chiarot= 26 years old, and a journeyman
Melchiori= 25 years old, horrible, career AHLer
Nogier= 21, journeyman, only played last year due to injuries.


Poolman looks much better than all 3 combined
Niku is going to go places after a year or two in the AHL
Stanley may turn it around and prove the critics wrong in a couple of years
Green and Samberg look very promising

Quote
Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit

Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing         Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo


God I hope Tanev and Hendricks starts in the AHL.  It would be a crime against humanity if they took up a roster spot while guys like Roslovic, Dano, Petan, Spacek, and even Lipon are wasting away in the AHL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 30, 2017, 04:27:17 AM
Chiarot= 26 years old, and a journeyman
Melchiori= 25 years old, horrible, career AHLer
Nogier= 21, journeyman, only played last year due to injuries.


Poolman looks much better than all 3 combined
Niku is going to go places after a year or two in the AHL
Stanley may turn it around and prove the critics wrong in a couple of years
Green and Samberg look very promising

God I hope Tanev and Hendricks starts in the AHL.  It would be a crime against humanity if they took up a roster spot while guys like Roslovic, Dano, Petan, Spacek, and even Lipon are wasting away in the AHL.

I think Hendricks will end up being a great signing!

Tanev I like his energy however PB guy mostly.

Stanley could be a bust but I hope not.

Pool man should flurish in the A

I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 30, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
I think Hendricks will end up being a great signing!

Tanev I like his energy however PB guy mostly.

Stanley could be a bust but I hope not.

Pool man should flurish in the A

I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?

Hendricks is a over-the-hill 36 year old 4th liner. 
Tanev can skate fast but that is it.
Poolman has earned a shot on the opening roster.
Jets drafted Dylan Samberg?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 30, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Poolman on the other hand ........ he is such a valuable up & comer.

Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit

Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing         Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo


Thanks for the detailed report!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 30, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?

Chevy broke him outta jail!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 03, 2017, 01:02:31 PM
Skating with Lowry & Armia yesterday was Tanev .......... PM likes Tanev & he sure has a big opportunity if Copp can't go tomorrow or for awhile
Meanwhile Connor was the odd man out at the workout ........ think Kyle C. would greatly benefit starting with the Moose

Getting giddy in anticipation of the start of this playoff bound season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 03, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing)

Perreault and Wheeler on the wings with Scheifele at centre on the top line. Second line is Little at centre with Laine and Ehlers on the wings.

One more sleep!! ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 03, 2017, 08:40:17 PM
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing)

Perreault and Wheeler on the wings with Scheifele at centre on the top line. Second line is Little at centre with Laine and Ehlers on the wings.

One more sleep!! ;D

As long as they don't crap the bed opening night against the leafs. They have all ways played the leafs tough here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 04, 2017, 12:26:07 AM
As long as they don't crap the bed opening night against the leafs. They have all ways played the leafs tough here.

I'd be okay with a repeat of last year's overtime game! Matthews with the breakaway, gets stumped. Laine gets the winning goal! I'm preparing for all the Matthews this and Matthews that talk from the Sportsnet crew... ::) Hope the Jets pound the crap out of the Leafs! They are my version of the riders in the NHL. I despise all things Toronto Mapleleafs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 12:33:09 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)


BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 12:44:55 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)


BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.

Funny, the notification I got said 6-year @7 mill lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 12:50:00 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)


BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.

Source?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Source?

everywhere...


http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209 (http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 12:56:35 PM
everywhere...


http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209 (http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209)

Yeah, I'm lazy. ;D

This is incredible news!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
randy turner‏Verified account @randyturner

BREAKING: Authorities on lookout for Kevin Cheveldayoff, 47, who just robbed local #NHLJets player Nik Ehlers at penpoint. Story coming.


Ok, robbing is a little over the top, but considering that Winnipeg is much maligned by FA's, this is an awesome signing, with some very solid long term benefit.  Having #55 and #42 locked up for 7 years at 13.5mil combined is going to make filling in the rest of the roster a lot easier...  and they will have good players alongside them, and a good team. 

Great signing, Chevy. 

Love to hear the caller(s) that was/were on the morning show recently complaining about Chevy.  Especially the one complaining about how Calgary just signed Jagr for $1mil, and why couldn't we?  Oh, FYI, Calgary just signed Tanner Glass too... when you still have room on your roster for Tanner Glass, after you have signed Jagr... well...




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
Right, so this is definitely awesome. Now we don't have to worry about him for years, and we won't have the fanbase and media holding him ridiculous expectations at that salary.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
OK,

7 yrs / $42 million...

anyone want to photoshop this?

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2013/08/28/whats-6-million-dollar-man-worth-today/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-1.img.jpg/876/493/1445013043214.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)


or am I too old?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 04:49:11 PM
Having #55 and #42 locked up...

Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???

He must mean we will call him #42 from now on, on account of his contract or something!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 06:25:05 PM
He must mean we will call him #42 from now on, on account of his contract or something!

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/932/537/71b.jpg)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 04, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
OK,

7 yrs / $42 million...

anyone want to photoshop this?

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2013/08/28/whats-6-million-dollar-man-worth-today/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-1.img.jpg/876/493/1445013043214.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

I'm not old to know how that show was but I certainly heard and it's a cool reference.

Nicky LOCKED UP softer cap hit BEAUTY

His buddy Liane will like to see this happen!!!

or am I too old?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 10:01:30 PM
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???

Sorry... was having a brain cramp on his number, and did a Yahoo image search... this was the first pic that came up, and my addled brain locked on it...

(http://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.376676.1444836493!/fileimage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/nik-ehlers.jpg)

No idea where or why that photo came from, I wish I could figure out how to replace Yahoo search with Google as the default on my Firefox...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 05, 2017, 12:56:50 AM
Well that was a brutal start to the season.... Leafs suck!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 05, 2017, 01:37:49 AM
They look like the BB in the Tim Burke era.
PauMau didn't adjust
Not enough big saves Masson was unimpressive


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 05, 2017, 02:23:05 AM
On pace of 0-82, 0 points.... its a little early to suggest we tank, and the sad thing is, we'd still lose the lottery pick for first overall...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 05, 2017, 04:17:31 AM
Well that was a brutal start to the season.... Leafs suck!

Only thing worse than losing to the leafs is when you are actually in Toronto and your team loses to the Leafs - especially loses so badly....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 05, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
That extension for Maurice is looking worse every day.  What other coaches would be available in-season for when he is fired? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 05, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
Sorry... was having a brain cramp on his number, and did a Yahoo image search... this was the first pic that came up, and my addled brain locked on it...

(http://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.376676.1444836493!/fileimage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/nik-ehlers.jpg)

No idea where or why that photo came from, I wish I could figure out how to replace Yahoo search with Google as the default on my Firefox...


That was from pre-season three years ago, IIRC. He did wear it briefly but as soon as he got on with the big club, he took #27 (worn by Tangradi beforehand).

That extension for Maurice is looking worse every day.  What other coaches would be available in-season for when he is fired? 

Yeah, it's put the team in a bad spot. Maurice has done nothing to deserve it, anyway.

My dream scenario: the Capitals fire Trotz when they choke in the playoffs again, and the Jets get him. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 05, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
That was the worst sporting event I've attended since the Mike Kelly Banjo Bowl!
Same old crap!
Can't win a face off
Can't kill a penalty
Horrendous defensive breakdowns
Stupid penalties
Sub-par goaltending

Well at least Laine was good.
Myers is not ready to play yet. He was terrible. What the hell was he doing on the first goal?
Enstrom was brutal
Trouba had the worst game he's ever played. Nice rush in the 1st though.
I won't go on, I wasted enough time watching this crap.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 05, 2017, 01:34:58 PM
Yeah, we bailed when Toronto went up 5-0. That was easily the worst Jets game I've ever attended.

And Leafs fans are the worst. >:(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 05, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
There seemed to be a lot of players watching the plays...  and it wasn't guys that I expected to see that happen to.  Wheeler and Scheifele on more than one occasion were standing flat footed as the puck went in.  Was very surprising.

And Mason, well... more than once I heard the comentators comment on him being small and out of position.  Not something you can do and expect to win games. 

I'm assuming a bag skate today, and some very tense time in the film room...  hopefully Maurice can fix this quick.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 05, 2017, 08:25:09 PM
There seemed to be a lot of players watching the plays...  and it wasn't guys that I expected to see that happen to.  Wheeler and Scheifele on more than one occasion were standing flat footed as the puck went in.  Was very surprising.

And Mason, well... more than once I heard the comentators comment on him being small and out of position.  Not something you can do and expect to win games. 

I'm assuming a bag skate today, and some very tense time in the film room...  hopefully Maurice can fix this quick.

This isn't the '60s. Paul Maurice isn't going to bag skate a bunch of 22-year-old millionaires on practice day one of the season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 05, 2017, 11:36:57 PM
That was the worst sporting event I've attended since the Mike Kelly Banjo Bowl!
Same old crap!
Can't win a face off
Can't kill a penalty
Horrendous defensive breakdowns
Stupid penalties
Sub-par goaltending

Well at least Laine was good.
Myers is not ready to play yet. He was terrible. What the hell was he doing on the first goal?
Enstrom was brutal
Trouba had the worst game he's ever played. Nice rush in the 1st though.
I won't go on, I wasted enough time watching this crap.

Maybe you go to any bomber or jet games. But no joke it did look like crap on TV.

I swear I've read a post exactly like that before from you!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 05, 2017, 11:54:53 PM
Should have canned Charlie Huddy in the off season...needed a new defensive mindset and playbook.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 05, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
This isn't the '60s. Paul Maurice isn't going to bag skate a bunch of 22-year-old millionaires on practice day one of the season.

And yet that's exactly what he did at practice today.  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 06, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
And yet that's exactly what he did at practice today.  :D

Yes - 20 minutes of conditioning work at the start of the year is the EXACT same thing as 'bag skating' the team for losing the opener 7-2.

Quote
The team looked over video from the loss before taking to the ice for a full 60-minute practice, which finished with 20 minutes of conditioning work.

"That wasn't even close to a bag skate, nobody puked," Maurice said. "(Maybe) if we had spent another 20 minutes at it. Back-to-back practices early in the year, it won't happen later in the year, your conditioning is something you want to maintain and improve on.

https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-put-home-opener-behind-them-with-up-tempo-practice-on-thursday/c-291610400


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 06, 2017, 01:30:36 PM
Maybe you go to any bomber or jet games. But no joke it did look like crap on TV.

I swear I've read a post exactly like that before from you!

I went to 4 games last year that were absolute stinkers, but I rank the Leafs game below them for 2 main reasons:
I considered getting rid of my ticket because there was somewhere else I really should have been instead, but kept it because this game was the #1 overall pick in our ticket draft.
I expected to see an improvement from last year but they were plagued by the exact same problems.
Oh well at least they looked good for the first 12 minutes or so, there may be some hope for these guys.
And I don't feel that bad anymore after finding out the defending cup champs got pummeled 10-1!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 08, 2017, 01:13:21 AM
Common guys need to nice effort and 2 points

GO JETS GO!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 08, 2017, 02:47:36 AM
I don't think Mason is our answer in goal. Too many big rebounds.

I'd also trade Buff. He's so inconsistent.

Btw, how do you like Cassie Campbell giving the colour commentary for the CBC?
I like her. I think she's doing a great job. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 08, 2017, 02:57:47 AM
Up 3-1...now down 5-3...#firehuddy

No issues with Cassie Campbell she is easy to listen to...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on October 08, 2017, 03:08:51 AM
Fire Maurice, Huddy, and Flaherty.  It's no coincidence that all of our goaltenders have become worse over time, or not as good on the Jets.  Why on earth did they give Maurice that extension?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 08, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
Cassie C. was so correct when she mentioned how Buff went for a skate & showed no hustle to get back .......... Flames scored on the play.

No other player, on the jets , could ever get away with what Buff does in relation to playing out of position & coasting a lot.
He is a monster hitter, aggressive goal seeker, supposedly a funny guy in the locker room ....... but we see to many C'mon Man incidents
PM needs to rein this guy in or play him as a forward or ......... Chevy should trade him (course I've said that for a couple of years).

Just 80 games left & I can't wait for the turn around.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 09, 2017, 01:55:29 AM
I agree trade Buff the heck out of here! He stinks and seems to care about fishing more than playing a strong game within a system.

I here the Rangers or the Hawks good be great destinations! Get a good return.
Colorado want him? Duchene lOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 09, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
I'm amazed at how quickly this fanbase has already turned on/written off Mason. Watch the team play in front of him: it's the same old piss poor garbage. That's on the coaches.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 09, 2017, 07:01:55 PM
I'm amazed at how quickly this fanbase has already turned on/written off Mason. Watch the team play in front of him: it's the same old piss poor garbage. That's on the coaches.

#firehuddy
#fireflaherty

If the jets can't figure out how to play defense the pressure on the team will cause them to implode. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 12:11:16 AM
Holy high visibility those oilers unis are bright...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 12:14:32 AM
Holy high visibility those oilers unis are bright...

I thought there was something wrong with my TV or how TSN was projecting their colours?

Anyway, PauMau with a serious shake up on the back end including goalie. He isn?t happy either so far.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 10, 2017, 12:14:40 AM
Hate the Oilers but I like their unis. It's going to be a tough task tonight and I'll be shocked if they pull off a win. The good will be seeing how  Poolman does. I really liked him in the preseason games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
Buffy benched or is he hurt?

Poolman gets a chance!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 12:28:23 AM
Buffy benched or is he hurt?

Poolman gets a chance!!

Haven?t heard anything about injury...I think he?s finally having to answer for sloppy play. I like Buff but this is a good coaching move. You play 100% on this team or you sit.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 10, 2017, 12:59:28 AM
Buff apparently hasn't practiced the past two days so I'm wondering if he tweaked something. Maybe coach has been "encouraging" some rest time. Decent start for the Jets. Next, the dreaded second period...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 01:33:47 AM
Helly hung out to dry on the first goal....that second one was on him - weak goal


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 10, 2017, 01:42:28 AM
Think that was the Jets first goal in the second period in 3 games. There's hope??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 01:46:59 AM
Ehlers on fire...almost had 3


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 02:41:19 AM
Ehlers


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 10, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Ehlers on fire...almost had 3

And then he did!

Huge win last night. They sure needed that one.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 07:28:28 PM
And then he did!

Huge win last night. They sure needed that one.

Super fun to beat Edmonton in Edmonton. They had our number last year. We can all take a deep breath now and stop talking about the draft lottery.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 10, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Ehlers

Ehlers


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 10, 2017, 09:19:21 PM
Super fun to beat Edmonton in Edmonton. They had our number last year. We can all take a deep breath now and stop talking about the draft lottery.


Where's Jersey now?

Was that the game he was at???

LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jersey on October 11, 2017, 04:15:05 PM

Where's Jersey now?

Was that the game he was at???

LOL
Im here. Wow... 3 games in, one win on the year and yeah... id guess this would be your comment.  :D Isn't it so exciting to win a game? Yes Jets deserved that win. Im worried about big picture though. Oilers have a lot of work to do! But Ok, so remember you started it as usual... no whining later on!

I go to New Years Eve game in E town!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 11, 2017, 06:10:12 PM
Im here. Wow... 3 games in, one win on the year and yeah... id guess this would be your comment.  :D Isn't it so exciting to win a game? Yes Jets deserved that win. Im worried about big picture though. Oilers have a lot of work to do! But Ok, so remember you started it as usual... no whining later on!

I go to New Years Eve game in E town!

Whining about what later?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 11, 2017, 07:42:45 PM
Jason Bell‏ @WFPJasonBell  10m10 minutes ago
More
No D Dustin Byfuglien (lower body) at #NHLJets practice at UBC rink today. Injured C Matt Hendricks had short skate before the group. #WFP


somehow I am not overly concerned if Buff isn't out there tomorrow...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 11, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
saw a few pics of this tremendously large Sturgeon (think that's what it was ID'd as) that Hendricks & Buff landed on their off day in B.C.
........scratching my head at what Buff's lower body issue is, if he can be out landing or helping to land that giant of a fish


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 11, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
I read an article today that shows since 2011-12, the Jets have a .909 save% with Buff on the ice and .924 with him off.  There's only 2 D-men with a worse differential in the entire NHL, with a sample size of at least 2000 shots.   

I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: galeforce on October 12, 2017, 01:46:22 AM
Mark Scheifele's article on theplayerstribune.com (an excellent website where all of the articles are written by athletes).

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/mark-scheifele-top-5-nhl/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 12, 2017, 05:08:17 AM
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."

There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 12:26:41 PM
Mark Scheifele's article on theplayerstribune.com (an excellent website where all of the articles are written by athletes).

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/mark-scheifele-top-5-nhl/

An excellent article and a really good resource to get into the minds of pro athletes. Love this one by #55. Thanks for sharing!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 12, 2017, 12:50:11 PM
I read an article today that shows since 2011-12, the Jets have a .909 save% with Buff on the ice and .924 with him off.  There's only 2 D-men with a worse differential in the entire NHL, with a sample size of at least 2000 shots.   

I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch. 

I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."

There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.


Either way, he seems to be enjoying the BC part of the trip...

 BarDown‏Verified account @BarDown
Dustin Byfuglien and Matt Hendricks caught a massive sturgeon in Vancouver with the @SturgeonSlayers. MORE: http://www.bardown.com/dustin-byfuglien-and-matt-hendricks-caught-a-massive-sturgeon-1.882347
?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL6AOVmU8AADs8t.jpg)



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 12, 2017, 02:08:30 PM
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."

There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.

He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 02:37:20 PM
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?
He gets traded. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
He gets traded. 

Big contract. Somebody would have to really like him and we'd have to take one back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 03:23:48 PM
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?

Or else nothing. He has a soft tissue injury which is keeping him from playing. For some reason, though, fans here think there's some conspiracy afoot because he and a teammate went fishing.

I can't see any team entertaining a trade for that massive contract, either.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 04:18:03 PM
Or else nothing. He has a soft tissue injury which is keeping him from playing. For some reason, though, fans here think there's some conspiracy afoot because he and a teammate went fishing.

I can't see any team entertaining a trade for that massive contract, either.
Troy Westwood suggested he's been a healthy scratch.  Hustler is assuming the same thing if you listen to his show. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 04:35:47 PM
Troy Westwood suggested he's been a healthy scratch.  Hustler is assuming the same thing if you listen to his show. 

I don't listen to either. They're both lousy and unqualified.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2017, 06:48:19 PM
Hard to say on this one. If Maurice wanted to sit him down, it's a heck of a lot easier to say he's got a soft tissue injury then it would be to publicly bench him. It's probably most importantly better for Buff to do that, because he hates the media at the best of times and now won't be mobbed by interviewers asking why he isn't playing well, if he's out of shape, what he thinks about being a healthy scratch, ect.

There are a lot of reasons why Maurice would go this route, if, and that's a big if, he wanted to sit him. There's no question that Buff can be a rover out there and for a team trying to nail down consistency with their systems, it must be tough to do it with him on the ice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 12, 2017, 07:15:13 PM
He gets traded. 

Not this year he doesn't, and if it's beyond this year it's to a contender.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 08:31:22 PM
Not this year he doesn't, and if it's beyond this year it's to a contender.
He's got a NMC this year, but he can still be traded. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 12, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
He's got a NMC this year, but he can still be traded. 

If he chooses to he can be, but in the context of "He must do X, or else", no, he can't be.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 10:27:50 PM
If he chooses to he can be, but in the context of "He must do X, or else", no, he can't be.
Yes I understand how a NMC works. But often if a teams asks a player to waive it, they will. The NMC just gives the player more control.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on October 13, 2017, 03:42:13 AM
A good night when the Jets beat the Canucks 4 - 2.  Even better week if the Bombers beat the Lions on Saturday!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 03:51:06 AM
A good night when the Jets beat the Canucks 4 - 2.  Even better week if the Bombers beat the Lions on Saturday!

Indeed. Nice road win for the Jets tonight! Hellebuyck is looking solid in net.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 13, 2017, 10:40:19 AM
Nice to see Helly backstop us to nice road wins in Edm and Van !
So do we keep him in net, or give Mason another chance ?  ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 11:01:20 AM
Nice to see Helly backstop us to nice road wins in Edm and Van !
So do we keep him in net, or give Mason another chance ?  ???
Helle keeps starting as long as he keeps playing well/winning. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 13, 2017, 11:47:40 AM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 12:25:38 PM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.

Agreed. If not tomorrow, I see Mason getting back in net on Tuesday against the team that drafted him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 13, 2017, 12:30:45 PM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.

IMO you ride the hot hand and maintain the line up until cracks start to show. Obviously down the line, assuming BuckBuck continues his great play, he will need a rest, but that may not be for several more games.

"My" plan of Helle coming in and killing it, taking over and owning the starters job is looking good! lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 13, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
Was listening to 1290 yesterday, and they were discussing the conspiracy.  I think it was Weibe that shut them down (although they kept on about it after) by stating:

1 Buff was walking with a limp, no way he goes to that level of deception to hide a benching.

2 A benched player doesn't get to miss practice, they go extra, especially when a bag skate is called.  If you are healthy, you don't skip a bag skate, and if you're being benched you do extra.

Pretty solid reasoning...

Buff is injured, day to day with a lower body soft tissue injury (Weibe also let it drop that it is a groin).  This can be short term, or very long term, needing surgery. 

The way Poolman is playing, not missing Buff at all... 

Here's a concept, Trouba is tied up for 2 years at $3mil.  Does it make sense right now to trade him?  Or do we squeeze this year out of him first?  Once Buff is healthy, that is... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
That Buff contract is now looking like a massive mistake. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 04:25:38 PM
That Buff contract is now looking like a massive mistake. 

After four games...? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 13, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
After four games...? ???

After 2 games ;)

I'm sure, when he gets healthy, Buff will be his normal self.  A risk/reward guy that needs his D partner/forwards to have his back now and then.

Just curious, the Buff/Lean that came to camp was supposed to be in great shape.  Yet he has looked awkward on the ice, and now this injury.  Did he overtrain in the offseason, and not pay attention to his game?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 13, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
Buff goes rogue way too often for my tastes. The best teams win through disciplined systems play combined with superior skill and good goaltending. I think the Jets have the skill and sometimes the goaltending, what we haven't had is great systems play and Buff is one of the reasons for that. He's a rover out there at times which is occasionally brilliant, typically fun to watch, but often a liability.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
After 2 games ;)

I'm sure, when he gets healthy, Buff will be his normal self.  A risk/reward guy that needs his D partner/forwards to have his back now and then.

Just curious, the Buff/Lean that came to camp was supposed to be in great shape.  Yet he has looked awkward on the ice, and now this injury.  Did he overtrain in the offseason, and not pay attention to his game?

Four games into the season is what I meant. Two games where he didn't look right and then two without him where the team has gone 2-0 isn't a reasonable indication of anything, especially the claim his contract extension is a massive mistake.

I have to think he wasn't 100% to start the season and then exacerbated his injury. I agree when he's 100% and back on the ice he'll be an asset to this team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 08:28:23 PM
After four games...? ???
Based on this:

Quote
Dellow: Risk, reward and the Dustin Byfuglien question

Since the Jets moved to Winnipeg, Dustin Byfuglien has one of the worst differences between his on-ice and off-ice save percentages at 5-on-5 in the NHL. When Byfuglien's on the ice, the Jets have put up a .909 since 2011-12. When he's on the bench, they've put up a .924. Only Seth Jones and Jake Muzzin have worse differentials amongst defencemen who've been on the ice for at least 2000 shots in that window. They're both much closer to the 2,000 shot threshold (2,337 shots against and 2,406 shots against) than Byfuglien (3,735 shots against), which means that there's probably more noise in their save percentages than in Byfuglien's.
 As a result of this, Byfuglien is one of the unusual players whose Corsi% is quite different than his GF%, even in a large sample. Relative to his team since 2011-12, Byfuglien's Corsi% is 2.4 points better than the Jets when he's on the bench. That's good! His GF% is 1.7 points worse than the Jets when he's not on the ice. That's bad! It's important to note that this is a save percentage problem, not a shooting percentage problem ? the Jets have shot 8.2 per cent with Byfuglien on the ice at 5-on-5 in this time and 8.0 per cent when he's on the bench.

More here: https://theathletic.com/122990/2017/10/10/dellow-risk-reward-and-the-dustin-byfuglien-question/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on October 14, 2017, 05:38:01 AM
FWIW, Chevy and Maurice were at the Moose game last night.  More and more team are moving in the direction of having three scoring lines, and one checking/specialty line instead of a traditional top 6/bottom 6 format.  Could the Jets be thinking of bringing up Connor and Roslovic and sending Dano and perhaps Tanev or Matthias down to the AHL?

As for Buff, I think it will depend on how the rest of our defenders perform throughout the season.  Poolman is playing better than expected.  If Niku turns out to be the best D-man on the Moose and Logan Stanley makes dramatic strides into one day becoming a top pairing D-men (he is tearing up the OHL), Buff may become expendable. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: sweep the leg on October 14, 2017, 01:38:46 PM

I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch. 

You were bang on when you said this about Westerman, so I assume you must be right this time too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 14, 2017, 03:23:39 PM
You were bang on when you said this about Westerman, so I assume you must be right this time too.
Yes, because they're the exact same situation  ::)

And I never said Westerman wasn't injured...I was speculating because the club was hiding everything surrounding the injury, which raised lots of questions.  Everyone was speculating.

But in the end, you can choose to believe whatever you like. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 14, 2017, 03:31:38 PM
Based on this:

[some cherry picked stats that don't come close to painting a complete picture]

Looks like confirmation bias to me.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 14, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
Looks like confirmation bias to me.
If you want to ignore the stats, that's fine with me! 

Those are some very telling and scary stats!  But not surprising. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 14, 2017, 04:10:18 PM
Buff is back in tonight as is Armia. Hellebuyck starts again. Poolman and Lowry out (upper body injury, day-to-day). Not excited about Poolman being out, but I'm hoping he's back in again soon. Solid playing so far. Buff said he had a nagging injury since training camp so I'm hoping that's why his play was so poor. He has to turn the intensity up tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 15, 2017, 01:29:23 AM
 Nice to see Buff play a good game tonight. When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he can single handedly cost a team a win. Good Buff/bad Buff.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 15, 2017, 01:17:04 PM
Nice to see the Helly backstop us to three straight wins!  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 16, 2017, 12:46:41 AM
Nice to see Buff play a good game tonight. When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he can single handedly cost a team a win. Good Buff/bad Buff.

Buff still passes the puck out of the D zone like a drunken sailor. It looked below average in the first couple periods to me.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 16, 2017, 03:11:14 PM
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#NHLJets place Mathieu Perreault on IR and recall Kyle Connor.


Perrealt sure is hurt a lot...hopefully nothing too serious


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 16, 2017, 05:04:06 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 16, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.

Huge confidence game for him...he comes in and stinks it up it will a big blow to him mentally...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 16, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.

Looking forward to seeing what Connor's got. He has I think 7 points in 4 games with the Moose so far.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2017, 06:21:47 PM
Looking forward to seeing what Connor's got. He has I think 7 points in 4 games with the Moose so far.

This is a great opportunity for him to see if he can stick with the big club. I'm stoked to see him play.

Also glad to learn Mason is getting the start tomorrow vs. the Jackets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 16, 2017, 09:53:08 PM
Press Box Perrault is hurt again.    Bad luck, black cloud or somehow brittle ....... this competitor struggles to stay healthy.
Stats show, not counting 2 incomplete seasons with the Caps, he has played 4 previous seasons here & for various reasons has missed 61 games ..... YIKES !!

Great opportunity for Connor, without a doubt.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 16, 2017, 11:42:16 PM
Huge confidence game for him...he comes in and stinks it up it will a big blow to him mentally...

Agreed. The team is playing better in general so that should help. He really didn't get much help during the first game and a half.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 18, 2017, 12:45:14 AM
Two terrible turnovers leading to Blue Jackets goals followed by a softie goal for Mason. If the Jets are consistent at anything it's being inconsistent. Back to the poor playing after 3 decent to good games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2017, 12:50:18 AM
Two terrible turnovers leading to Blue Jackets goals followed by a softie goal for Mason. If the Jets are consistent at anything it's being inconsistent. Back to the poor playing after 3 decent to good games.

Mason no doubt should've had that last one. But after a solid first period, they just fell apart in the middle frame.

Beauty goal by Connor, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 02:54:27 AM
 I said before and I'm going to say it again.

 This team going anywhere  With a coach like PoMo. Loser coach!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on October 18, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
I said before and I'm going to say it again.

 This team going anywhere  With a coach like PoMo. Loser coach!

Am starting to agree.... I get that Mason is the starter but you just don't sit a goalie whose won 3 straight for you.  Does the team perhaps play a bit differently when #37 is in net?   Back to Helly on Friday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 18, 2017, 11:59:10 AM
This team is really weird, no real identity and it seems that they don't have a sound system or aren't following what they have..they were overplayed in the first period - Mason made some good stops.  I don't have a problem with Maurice giving him a shot, you need 2 goalies and he needed to get his confidence - that didn't happen...

I still think Huddy and Flaherty needed to be axed in the off-season - this division is going to be tough, last night was a winnable game at home and they were outmatched, out played.  Glad I am not dropping 200+ per game to see this anymore (not that Chipman cares as there is still a huge line up of people willing to shell out big $$ for the chance of seeing some exciting offensive play from Laine, Ehlers etc.)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 18, 2017, 01:54:51 PM
3 out of 5 goals were unassisted.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 08:49:04 PM
3 out of 5 goals were unassisted.


meaning?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
meaning?

There was no secondary scoring (assist) on those goals. I think that's what BomberPride means, anyway.

But actually, only two goals were unassisted: Foligno's (10:50 of period 2) and Sedlak's (18:11 of period 2).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 19, 2017, 12:42:29 AM
Looking at the shots allowed during the first six games, we seem to be allowing between 30 and 40 shots per game.
It looks as is Helly is handling the volume, allowing one or two goals per game, which gives us a chance to win.
However, Mason is allowing an average of six goals on the same volume of shots.
Looking at his career stats, it looks as he averaged about 25 to 30 shots per game during his career.
What's different between him and Helly: does he give up more rebounds ?
I heard a comment on a post game show about Helly and how he's like Velcro, not allowing rebounds.
Do the defencemen need to do a better job or clearing rebounds or blocking shots ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 19, 2017, 02:01:40 AM
Do the defencemen need to do a better job or clearing rebounds or blocking shots ?

Yes. Not just the defensemen but the entire team when they're in the defensive zone.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 19, 2017, 04:24:01 PM
meaning?

Meaning turnovers... horrible defence.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 20, 2017, 12:43:25 AM
Mason gives up to many rebounds.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 20, 2017, 04:31:47 PM
Finally...Chiarot is in the lineup... all is saved ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 20, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
Hard earned money t go tonight. Better not be a crapfest!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 21, 2017, 02:05:50 AM
Exciting win ...... the big 6 came thru, HellB was solid & the Dmen seemed pretty thorough.
.......... however the bottom 6 certainly lacked ooomph!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 21, 2017, 02:10:30 AM
Connor has some great vision. Beauty saucer pass to Wheeler for his 200th career goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 22, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
Anyone know why there's 6 days between games?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 22, 2017, 04:35:35 PM
Anyone know why there's 6 days between games?

Bye-week? Is that a thing?