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Title: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on September 16, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
With the 2017/2018 hockey season around the corner here is the new thread for discussions relative to the current season.  The 2016/2017 thread has been "un-stickied" but still available below.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 16, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
A couple of storylines as training camp opens today. Enjoy!

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play)

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/jets-goalie-mason-embraces-pressure (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/jets-goalie-mason-embraces-pressure)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 17, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
It will be interesting who makes the roster, and who stays with the Moose.

Players that signed with the Jets (Non-Roster):

Kyle Connor- excellent chance he will make the top 9 or even top 6 forwards.  A lock for the roster.
Jack Roslovic- led AHL Moose last year.  May be a call up during the season if there are injuries or sub-par performances by 4th line
Brendan Lemieux- Jets are big on him not sure why.  He is undisciplined, and has not really lived up to expectations
Jansen Harkins-
Michael Spacek
Mason Appleton
Chase De Leo
JC Lipon
Buddy Robinson
James Lodge
Tucker Poolman- good chance he is a bottom 6 defender
Sami Niku- looking great.  Slim chance he makes the lineup, but better chance he is a call up later in the year
Nelson Nogier- possible call up
Julian Melciori- possible call up
Logan Stanley
Jan Kostalek
Cameron Schilling
Eric Comrie
Jamie Phillips


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on September 17, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
Can they win 35 games this year. ? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 18, 2017, 12:06:58 AM
Can they win 35 games this year. ? 

???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 18, 2017, 02:35:40 AM
No idea how they will do this year.

I do know they have skill and overall talent. Do they match up?   Going to be fun to see.

We should be ok and make the playoffs

Go Jets Go



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 18, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
A lot of stars on the ice tonight ....... so let's hope they match the nine goals by Vegas.

Hopefully the after game summations on Poolman & Connor are encouraging & of course HellB.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/game-day-jets-host-wild-in-pre-season-opener/c-291128014 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/game-day-jets-host-wild-in-pre-season-opener/c-291128014)

Quote
Tonight's Lineup

Forwards: Patrik Laine, Mathieu Perreault, Kyle Connor, Brendan Lemieux, Mark Scheifele, Bryan Little, Adam Lowry, Mike Sgarbossa, Blake Wheeler, Nikolaj Ehlers, Joel Armia and Marko Dano

Defence: Logan Stanley, Dustin Byfuglien, Toby Enstrom, Tucker Poolman, Ben Chiarot and Nelson Nogier

Connor Hellebuyck will start in goal and Eric Comrie will back up.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 18, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on September 19, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score.

Close lol 3-2 loss in a shoot out. God, I hate shoot outs...

First two periods definitely looked like a pre-season game. 3rd looked better.

Lemieux is definitely a physical player, threw his body around everywhere; I forget how fast Blake Wheeler is sometimes; Ehlers can still dance pretty well with the puck; Laine got his obligatory snipe from the top of the face off circle to tie it up and threw a nice check, sticking up for Sheif's after he got rocked.

Helly was decent, but Wild's Michaluk (sp?) was better. Jets threw everything at him in the 3rd. Possession seemed to favour us, so Helly wasn't tested as much. Really looking forward to seeing Mason.

The new slashing penalty is going to take a game or two to get used to it. Pretty sure that's what made up a majority of the PP's for the Jets.
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 19, 2017, 12:01:38 PM
Close lol 3-2 loss in a shoot out. God, I hate shoot outs...

First two periods definitely looked like a pre-season game. 3rd looked better.

Lemieux is definitely a physical player, threw his body around everywhere; I forget how fast Blake Wheeler is sometimes; Ehlers can still dance pretty well with the puck; Laine got his obligatory snipe from the top of the face off circle to tie it up and threw a nice check, sticking up for Sheif's after he got rocked.

Helly was decent, but Wild's Michaluk (sp?) was better. Jets threw everything at him in the 3rd. Possession seemed to favour us, so Helly wasn't tested as much. Really looking forward to seeing Mason.

The new slashing penalty is going to take a game or two to get used to it. Pretty sure that's what made up a majority of the PP's for the Jets.
 

Agree with everything here. Also, was there 100 or 200 penalties?

Lots of rust, but it was certainly on both sides.

Thought the renos were really sharp. I hadn't been to the arena in almost on 3 years


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on September 19, 2017, 02:47:58 PM
Hellebuyck spent 16:02 on the PP and 11:27 shorthanded, for a total of 27 minutes 29 seconds of icetime with one team on the PP


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 19, 2017, 03:26:42 PM
With that lineup, I predict a 14-13 final score in penalties taken by both teams.

 ;)

Pretty typical pre-season game. The upgrades to the arena* are excellent, so that was nice to see. BellMTS Place is a terribly lame name, though. Maybe gotta start calling it The Hangar...? ???

Lemieux going to toe to toe with Foligno was probably the highlight of the night. Laine's goal was pretty nasty.

* (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870))


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 19, 2017, 08:14:46 PM
It's going to be a long season if the reffing is this strict/bad. Felt player's have been using their stick to tap/slash much less over the years but now the league wants
even more to be "cleaned" up ......... get the players to wear the former length gloves & we'd have less ow'eeees &      ah whats the use ...... spilt milk.

Caught a session of non lineup yesterday & both sessions today at the IcePlex.  Noon, extreme high tempo, was the Jets team plus Stanley, Poolman, Connor
Finally saw Mason, who was okay.    Our squad is sooooooo fast & skilled compared to the younger mix of players
Myers, both days, looks so ready & Kulikov is very disciplined defensively, & Hendricks has a lot of fun out there while playing a smart game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 01:11:34 PM
;)

Pretty typical pre-season game. The upgrades to the arena* are excellent, so that was nice to see. BellMTS Place is a terribly lame name, though. Maybe gotta start calling it The Hangar...? ???

Lemieux going to toe to toe with Foligno was probably the highlight of the night. Laine's goal was pretty nasty.

* (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-true-north-mts-bell-place-renovations-1.4295870))
I enjoyed seeing Laine beasting the Wild player who hit Scheifele to the ground.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 20, 2017, 03:15:33 PM
Anyone hear what the lines are tonight?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 03:54:19 PM
Anyone hear what the lines are tonight?

https://twitter.com/WpgJetsPR/status/910477780281905153/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fjets%2Fnews%2Fgame-day-jets-oilers-clash-in-winnipeg%2Fc-291191872

Looks more potent than the line up on Monday. Top 2 lines still intact but with way more depth on defense and Mason in net.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 20, 2017, 04:03:35 PM
https://twitter.com/WpgJetsPR/status/910477780281905153/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fjets%2Fnews%2Fgame-day-jets-oilers-clash-in-winnipeg%2Fc-291191872

Looks more potent than the line up on Monday. Top 2 lines still intact but with way more depth on defense and Mason in net.


Thx dude!

Ya i like it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 20, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
I enjoyed seeing Laine beasting the Wild player who hit Scheifele to the ground.

Yeah, that was a pretty risky hit for a meaningless pre-season game. I'm glad Laine stepped in for his teammate.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 21, 2017, 03:09:24 AM
Jets look crappy in preseason same old same old!

Buff is a loser or a dog chasing it's tail.

Trade him we don't need his crap any longer!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on September 21, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
Pretty boring game to watch. Nothing really stood out for me.

Jets stopped skating in the second period and it cost them. Third period was better but again, couldn't find the back of the net.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 22, 2017, 01:26:13 AM
Conner is starting to look like hes going to be pretty good. I also like Poolman. They need time yet but they kinda remind me of how Scheif and Morrissey looked at first.

Lowry, Armie, Copp  ...  This may end up being a great line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 22, 2017, 01:42:07 AM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia

Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 22, 2017, 02:15:24 AM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia

Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.


This all depends if Conner stays up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on September 22, 2017, 12:06:10 PM
believe you meant Connor with Lowry & Armia

Not much to say about tonight's 1-0 loss ...... cept HellB was sound.

I really don't think we're going to see anything stand out until the last 3 preseason games. Considering we're about to head into that stretch now we'll likely see more of a separation.

Hellebuyck hasn't really been tested, and Manson deserved a better game. not sure if Maurice intends to alternate those two for the remainder of the preseason, or if Comrie and Hutchinson will see full games. although in my mind - Comrie and Hutchinson are already slotted to head to the Moose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 23, 2017, 01:00:48 AM
Comrie will need at least two more years on the Moose to get a chance on the Jets.  I doubt he will amount to anything more than a backup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 26, 2017, 01:42:25 AM
Laine


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 28, 2017, 11:53:51 AM
I checked out most of the game last night, and we are starting to look more ourselves (to be expected as preseason progresses). Looking pretty good, I thought! Morrissey is our top D. Excited to have Myers back- he will be huge in shoring up from our awful D last year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 28, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
I checked out most of the game last night, and we are starting to look more ourselves (to be expected as preseason progresses). Looking pretty good, I thought! Morrissey is our top D. Excited to have Myers back- he will be huge in shoring up from our awful D last year.

Kulikov is a really solid addition, too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on September 29, 2017, 08:11:13 PM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Poolman on the other hand ........ he is such a valuable up & comer.

Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit

Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing         Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 30, 2017, 02:05:48 AM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.

Chiarot= 26 years old, and a journeyman
Melchiori= 25 years old, horrible, career AHLer
Nogier= 21, journeyman, only played last year due to injuries.


Poolman looks much better than all 3 combined
Niku is going to go places after a year or two in the AHL
Stanley may turn it around and prove the critics wrong in a couple of years
Green and Samberg look very promising

Quote
Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit

Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing         Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo


God I hope Tanev and Hendricks starts in the AHL.  It would be a crime against humanity if they took up a roster spot while guys like Roslovic, Dano, Petan, Spacek, and even Lipon are wasting away in the AHL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 30, 2017, 04:27:17 AM
Chiarot= 26 years old, and a journeyman
Melchiori= 25 years old, horrible, career AHLer
Nogier= 21, journeyman, only played last year due to injuries.


Poolman looks much better than all 3 combined
Niku is going to go places after a year or two in the AHL
Stanley may turn it around and prove the critics wrong in a couple of years
Green and Samberg look very promising

God I hope Tanev and Hendricks starts in the AHL.  It would be a crime against humanity if they took up a roster spot while guys like Roslovic, Dano, Petan, Spacek, and even Lipon are wasting away in the AHL.

I think Hendricks will end up being a great signing!

Tanev I like his energy however PB guy mostly.

Stanley could be a bust but I hope not.

Pool man should flurish in the A

I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on September 30, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
I think Hendricks will end up being a great signing!

Tanev I like his energy however PB guy mostly.

Stanley could be a bust but I hope not.

Pool man should flurish in the A

I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?

Hendricks is a over-the-hill 36 year old 4th liner. 
Tanev can skate fast but that is it.
Poolman has earned a shot on the opening roster.
Jets drafted Dylan Samberg?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on September 30, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
I'm still not sold on why we spent $$ to get Kulikov (cheering that he delivers) ....... vs what I have seen from Chiarot (reliable in my eyes), Melchiori & the potential in Nogier.
Poolman on the other hand ........ he is such a valuable up & comer.

Watched workout today ...... regular line was Petan with Scheif & Wheels but Petan did not work with the 2 PP groups.
On the PP. ...... Connor worked with Little, Ehlers & with Myers & Trouba ........ while Buff & Laine at the point with Perrault, Scheif & Wheels.
Armia killed with Mathias while Dano & Copp worked together ....... the Pen.Kill groups all worked a very passive box (personally think this is proven to be crap)
Little skated with Ehlers & Laine while Perrault was with Roslovic & Armia ...... Copp, Tanev & Connor made up another unit

Absent was Lowry, which was no surprise but Hendricks was missing         Spacek & Lemieux worked on things on a separate sheet & only joined in the final 15 minutes & did zippo


Thanks for the detailed report!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 30, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
I didn't know Andy Samberg played fir us?

Chevy broke him outta jail!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 03, 2017, 01:02:31 PM
Skating with Lowry & Armia yesterday was Tanev .......... PM likes Tanev & he sure has a big opportunity if Copp can't go tomorrow or for awhile
Meanwhile Connor was the odd man out at the workout ........ think Kyle C. would greatly benefit starting with the Moose

Getting giddy in anticipation of the start of this playoff bound season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 03, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing)

Perreault and Wheeler on the wings with Scheifele at centre on the top line. Second line is Little at centre with Laine and Ehlers on the wings.

One more sleep!! ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 03, 2017, 08:40:17 PM
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing (http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/02/jets-go-with-old-faithful-on-the-wing)

Perreault and Wheeler on the wings with Scheifele at centre on the top line. Second line is Little at centre with Laine and Ehlers on the wings.

One more sleep!! ;D

As long as they don't crap the bed opening night against the leafs. They have all ways played the leafs tough here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 04, 2017, 12:26:07 AM
As long as they don't crap the bed opening night against the leafs. They have all ways played the leafs tough here.

I'd be okay with a repeat of last year's overtime game! Matthews with the breakaway, gets stumped. Laine gets the winning goal! I'm preparing for all the Matthews this and Matthews that talk from the Sportsnet crew... ::) Hope the Jets pound the crap out of the Leafs! They are my version of the riders in the NHL. I despise all things Toronto Mapleleafs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 12:33:09 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)


BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 12:44:55 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)


BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.

Funny, the notification I got said 6-year @7 mill lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 12:50:00 PM
$6 million a year isn't bad if he delivers (can say that for all players I guess)


BREAKING: This morning #NHLJets will announce a 7-year contract extension for forward Nikolaj Ehlers worth $42 million.

Source?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 04, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Source?

everywhere...


http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209 (http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 12:56:35 PM
everywhere...


http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209 (http://www.tsn.ca/jets-ink-ehlers-to-seven-year-42m-extension-1.875209)

Yeah, I'm lazy. ;D

This is incredible news!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
randy turner‏Verified account @randyturner

BREAKING: Authorities on lookout for Kevin Cheveldayoff, 47, who just robbed local #NHLJets player Nik Ehlers at penpoint. Story coming.


Ok, robbing is a little over the top, but considering that Winnipeg is much maligned by FA's, this is an awesome signing, with some very solid long term benefit.  Having #55 and #42 locked up for 7 years at 13.5mil combined is going to make filling in the rest of the roster a lot easier...  and they will have good players alongside them, and a good team. 

Great signing, Chevy. 

Love to hear the caller(s) that was/were on the morning show recently complaining about Chevy.  Especially the one complaining about how Calgary just signed Jagr for $1mil, and why couldn't we?  Oh, FYI, Calgary just signed Tanner Glass too... when you still have room on your roster for Tanner Glass, after you have signed Jagr... well...




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
Right, so this is definitely awesome. Now we don't have to worry about him for years, and we won't have the fanbase and media holding him ridiculous expectations at that salary.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
OK,

7 yrs / $42 million...

anyone want to photoshop this?

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2013/08/28/whats-6-million-dollar-man-worth-today/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-1.img.jpg/876/493/1445013043214.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)


or am I too old?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 04:49:11 PM
Having #55 and #42 locked up...

Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 04, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???

He must mean we will call him #42 from now on, on account of his contract or something!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2017, 06:25:05 PM
He must mean we will call him #42 from now on, on account of his contract or something!

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/932/537/71b.jpg)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 04, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
OK,

7 yrs / $42 million...

anyone want to photoshop this?

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2013/08/28/whats-6-million-dollar-man-worth-today/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-1.img.jpg/876/493/1445013043214.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

I'm not old to know how that show was but I certainly heard and it's a cool reference.

Nicky LOCKED UP softer cap hit BEAUTY

His buddy Liane will like to see this happen!!!

or am I too old?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 04, 2017, 10:01:30 PM
Ehlers doesn't wear #42. He wears #27. ???

Sorry... was having a brain cramp on his number, and did a Yahoo image search... this was the first pic that came up, and my addled brain locked on it...

(http://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.376676.1444836493!/fileimage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/nik-ehlers.jpg)

No idea where or why that photo came from, I wish I could figure out how to replace Yahoo search with Google as the default on my Firefox...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 05, 2017, 12:56:50 AM
Well that was a brutal start to the season.... Leafs suck!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 05, 2017, 01:37:49 AM
They look like the BB in the Tim Burke era.
PauMau didn't adjust
Not enough big saves Masson was unimpressive


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 05, 2017, 02:23:05 AM
On pace of 0-82, 0 points.... its a little early to suggest we tank, and the sad thing is, we'd still lose the lottery pick for first overall...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 05, 2017, 04:17:31 AM
Well that was a brutal start to the season.... Leafs suck!

Only thing worse than losing to the leafs is when you are actually in Toronto and your team loses to the Leafs - especially loses so badly....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 05, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
That extension for Maurice is looking worse every day.  What other coaches would be available in-season for when he is fired? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 05, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
Sorry... was having a brain cramp on his number, and did a Yahoo image search... this was the first pic that came up, and my addled brain locked on it...

(http://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.376676.1444836493!/fileimage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/nik-ehlers.jpg)

No idea where or why that photo came from, I wish I could figure out how to replace Yahoo search with Google as the default on my Firefox...


That was from pre-season three years ago, IIRC. He did wear it briefly but as soon as he got on with the big club, he took #27 (worn by Tangradi beforehand).

That extension for Maurice is looking worse every day.  What other coaches would be available in-season for when he is fired? 

Yeah, it's put the team in a bad spot. Maurice has done nothing to deserve it, anyway.

My dream scenario: the Capitals fire Trotz when they choke in the playoffs again, and the Jets get him. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 05, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
That was the worst sporting event I've attended since the Mike Kelly Banjo Bowl!
Same old crap!
Can't win a face off
Can't kill a penalty
Horrendous defensive breakdowns
Stupid penalties
Sub-par goaltending

Well at least Laine was good.
Myers is not ready to play yet. He was terrible. What the hell was he doing on the first goal?
Enstrom was brutal
Trouba had the worst game he's ever played. Nice rush in the 1st though.
I won't go on, I wasted enough time watching this crap.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 05, 2017, 01:34:58 PM
Yeah, we bailed when Toronto went up 5-0. That was easily the worst Jets game I've ever attended.

And Leafs fans are the worst. >:(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 05, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
There seemed to be a lot of players watching the plays...  and it wasn't guys that I expected to see that happen to.  Wheeler and Scheifele on more than one occasion were standing flat footed as the puck went in.  Was very surprising.

And Mason, well... more than once I heard the comentators comment on him being small and out of position.  Not something you can do and expect to win games. 

I'm assuming a bag skate today, and some very tense time in the film room...  hopefully Maurice can fix this quick.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 05, 2017, 08:25:09 PM
There seemed to be a lot of players watching the plays...  and it wasn't guys that I expected to see that happen to.  Wheeler and Scheifele on more than one occasion were standing flat footed as the puck went in.  Was very surprising.

And Mason, well... more than once I heard the comentators comment on him being small and out of position.  Not something you can do and expect to win games. 

I'm assuming a bag skate today, and some very tense time in the film room...  hopefully Maurice can fix this quick.

This isn't the '60s. Paul Maurice isn't going to bag skate a bunch of 22-year-old millionaires on practice day one of the season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 05, 2017, 11:36:57 PM
That was the worst sporting event I've attended since the Mike Kelly Banjo Bowl!
Same old crap!
Can't win a face off
Can't kill a penalty
Horrendous defensive breakdowns
Stupid penalties
Sub-par goaltending

Well at least Laine was good.
Myers is not ready to play yet. He was terrible. What the hell was he doing on the first goal?
Enstrom was brutal
Trouba had the worst game he's ever played. Nice rush in the 1st though.
I won't go on, I wasted enough time watching this crap.

Maybe you go to any bomber or jet games. But no joke it did look like crap on TV.

I swear I've read a post exactly like that before from you!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 05, 2017, 11:54:53 PM
Should have canned Charlie Huddy in the off season...needed a new defensive mindset and playbook.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 05, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
This isn't the '60s. Paul Maurice isn't going to bag skate a bunch of 22-year-old millionaires on practice day one of the season.

And yet that's exactly what he did at practice today.  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 06, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
And yet that's exactly what he did at practice today.  :D

Yes - 20 minutes of conditioning work at the start of the year is the EXACT same thing as 'bag skating' the team for losing the opener 7-2.

Quote
The team looked over video from the loss before taking to the ice for a full 60-minute practice, which finished with 20 minutes of conditioning work.

"That wasn't even close to a bag skate, nobody puked," Maurice said. "(Maybe) if we had spent another 20 minutes at it. Back-to-back practices early in the year, it won't happen later in the year, your conditioning is something you want to maintain and improve on.

https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-put-home-opener-behind-them-with-up-tempo-practice-on-thursday/c-291610400


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 06, 2017, 01:30:36 PM
Maybe you go to any bomber or jet games. But no joke it did look like crap on TV.

I swear I've read a post exactly like that before from you!

I went to 4 games last year that were absolute stinkers, but I rank the Leafs game below them for 2 main reasons:
I considered getting rid of my ticket because there was somewhere else I really should have been instead, but kept it because this game was the #1 overall pick in our ticket draft.
I expected to see an improvement from last year but they were plagued by the exact same problems.
Oh well at least they looked good for the first 12 minutes or so, there may be some hope for these guys.
And I don't feel that bad anymore after finding out the defending cup champs got pummeled 10-1!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 08, 2017, 01:13:21 AM
Common guys need to nice effort and 2 points

GO JETS GO!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 08, 2017, 02:47:36 AM
I don't think Mason is our answer in goal. Too many big rebounds.

I'd also trade Buff. He's so inconsistent.

Btw, how do you like Cassie Campbell giving the colour commentary for the CBC?
I like her. I think she's doing a great job. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 08, 2017, 02:57:47 AM
Up 3-1...now down 5-3...#firehuddy

No issues with Cassie Campbell she is easy to listen to...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on October 08, 2017, 03:08:51 AM
Fire Maurice, Huddy, and Flaherty.  It's no coincidence that all of our goaltenders have become worse over time, or not as good on the Jets.  Why on earth did they give Maurice that extension?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 08, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
Cassie C. was so correct when she mentioned how Buff went for a skate & showed no hustle to get back .......... Flames scored on the play.

No other player, on the jets , could ever get away with what Buff does in relation to playing out of position & coasting a lot.
He is a monster hitter, aggressive goal seeker, supposedly a funny guy in the locker room ....... but we see to many C'mon Man incidents
PM needs to rein this guy in or play him as a forward or ......... Chevy should trade him (course I've said that for a couple of years).

Just 80 games left & I can't wait for the turn around.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 09, 2017, 01:55:29 AM
I agree trade Buff the heck out of here! He stinks and seems to care about fishing more than playing a strong game within a system.

I here the Rangers or the Hawks good be great destinations! Get a good return.
Colorado want him? Duchene lOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 09, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
I'm amazed at how quickly this fanbase has already turned on/written off Mason. Watch the team play in front of him: it's the same old piss poor garbage. That's on the coaches.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 09, 2017, 07:01:55 PM
I'm amazed at how quickly this fanbase has already turned on/written off Mason. Watch the team play in front of him: it's the same old piss poor garbage. That's on the coaches.

#firehuddy
#fireflaherty

If the jets can't figure out how to play defense the pressure on the team will cause them to implode. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 12:11:16 AM
Holy high visibility those oilers unis are bright...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 12:14:32 AM
Holy high visibility those oilers unis are bright...

I thought there was something wrong with my TV or how TSN was projecting their colours?

Anyway, PauMau with a serious shake up on the back end including goalie. He isn?t happy either so far.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 10, 2017, 12:14:40 AM
Hate the Oilers but I like their unis. It's going to be a tough task tonight and I'll be shocked if they pull off a win. The good will be seeing how  Poolman does. I really liked him in the preseason games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
Buffy benched or is he hurt?

Poolman gets a chance!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 12:28:23 AM
Buffy benched or is he hurt?

Poolman gets a chance!!

Haven?t heard anything about injury...I think he?s finally having to answer for sloppy play. I like Buff but this is a good coaching move. You play 100% on this team or you sit.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 10, 2017, 12:59:28 AM
Buff apparently hasn't practiced the past two days so I'm wondering if he tweaked something. Maybe coach has been "encouraging" some rest time. Decent start for the Jets. Next, the dreaded second period...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 01:33:47 AM
Helly hung out to dry on the first goal....that second one was on him - weak goal


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 10, 2017, 01:42:28 AM
Think that was the Jets first goal in the second period in 3 games. There's hope??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 10, 2017, 01:46:59 AM
Ehlers on fire...almost had 3


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 02:41:19 AM
Ehlers


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 10, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Ehlers on fire...almost had 3

And then he did!

Huge win last night. They sure needed that one.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 10, 2017, 07:28:28 PM
And then he did!

Huge win last night. They sure needed that one.

Super fun to beat Edmonton in Edmonton. They had our number last year. We can all take a deep breath now and stop talking about the draft lottery.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 10, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Ehlers

Ehlers


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 10, 2017, 09:19:21 PM
Super fun to beat Edmonton in Edmonton. They had our number last year. We can all take a deep breath now and stop talking about the draft lottery.


Where's Jersey now?

Was that the game he was at???

LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jersey on October 11, 2017, 04:15:05 PM

Where's Jersey now?

Was that the game he was at???

LOL
Im here. Wow... 3 games in, one win on the year and yeah... id guess this would be your comment.  :D Isn't it so exciting to win a game? Yes Jets deserved that win. Im worried about big picture though. Oilers have a lot of work to do! But Ok, so remember you started it as usual... no whining later on!

I go to New Years Eve game in E town!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 11, 2017, 06:10:12 PM
Im here. Wow... 3 games in, one win on the year and yeah... id guess this would be your comment.  :D Isn't it so exciting to win a game? Yes Jets deserved that win. Im worried about big picture though. Oilers have a lot of work to do! But Ok, so remember you started it as usual... no whining later on!

I go to New Years Eve game in E town!

Whining about what later?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 11, 2017, 07:42:45 PM
Jason Bell‏ @WFPJasonBell  10m10 minutes ago
More
No D Dustin Byfuglien (lower body) at #NHLJets practice at UBC rink today. Injured C Matt Hendricks had short skate before the group. #WFP


somehow I am not overly concerned if Buff isn't out there tomorrow...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 11, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
saw a few pics of this tremendously large Sturgeon (think that's what it was ID'd as) that Hendricks & Buff landed on their off day in B.C.
........scratching my head at what Buff's lower body issue is, if he can be out landing or helping to land that giant of a fish


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 11, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
I read an article today that shows since 2011-12, the Jets have a .909 save% with Buff on the ice and .924 with him off.  There's only 2 D-men with a worse differential in the entire NHL, with a sample size of at least 2000 shots.   

I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: galeforce on October 12, 2017, 01:46:22 AM
Mark Scheifele's article on theplayerstribune.com (an excellent website where all of the articles are written by athletes).

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/mark-scheifele-top-5-nhl/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 12, 2017, 05:08:17 AM
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."

There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 12:26:41 PM
Mark Scheifele's article on theplayerstribune.com (an excellent website where all of the articles are written by athletes).

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/mark-scheifele-top-5-nhl/

An excellent article and a really good resource to get into the minds of pro athletes. Love this one by #55. Thanks for sharing!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 12, 2017, 12:50:11 PM
I read an article today that shows since 2011-12, the Jets have a .909 save% with Buff on the ice and .924 with him off.  There's only 2 D-men with a worse differential in the entire NHL, with a sample size of at least 2000 shots.   

I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch. 

I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."

There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.


Either way, he seems to be enjoying the BC part of the trip...

 BarDown‏Verified account @BarDown
Dustin Byfuglien and Matt Hendricks caught a massive sturgeon in Vancouver with the @SturgeonSlayers. MORE: http://www.bardown.com/dustin-byfuglien-and-matt-hendricks-caught-a-massive-sturgeon-1.882347
?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL6AOVmU8AADs8t.jpg)



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 12, 2017, 02:08:30 PM
I think what Wheeler said after the game was very telling.
"We all bought in this evening and won the game."

There is pressure on Buff now to buy into the system
or else, in my opinion.

He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 02:37:20 PM
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?
He gets traded. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
He gets traded. 

Big contract. Somebody would have to really like him and we'd have to take one back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 03:23:48 PM
He's on a $7.6M deal that takes him to the age of 36... or else what?

Or else nothing. He has a soft tissue injury which is keeping him from playing. For some reason, though, fans here think there's some conspiracy afoot because he and a teammate went fishing.

I can't see any team entertaining a trade for that massive contract, either.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 04:18:03 PM
Or else nothing. He has a soft tissue injury which is keeping him from playing. For some reason, though, fans here think there's some conspiracy afoot because he and a teammate went fishing.

I can't see any team entertaining a trade for that massive contract, either.
Troy Westwood suggested he's been a healthy scratch.  Hustler is assuming the same thing if you listen to his show. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2017, 04:35:47 PM
Troy Westwood suggested he's been a healthy scratch.  Hustler is assuming the same thing if you listen to his show. 

I don't listen to either. They're both lousy and unqualified.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2017, 06:48:19 PM
Hard to say on this one. If Maurice wanted to sit him down, it's a heck of a lot easier to say he's got a soft tissue injury then it would be to publicly bench him. It's probably most importantly better for Buff to do that, because he hates the media at the best of times and now won't be mobbed by interviewers asking why he isn't playing well, if he's out of shape, what he thinks about being a healthy scratch, ect.

There are a lot of reasons why Maurice would go this route, if, and that's a big if, he wanted to sit him. There's no question that Buff can be a rover out there and for a team trying to nail down consistency with their systems, it must be tough to do it with him on the ice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 12, 2017, 07:15:13 PM
He gets traded. 

Not this year he doesn't, and if it's beyond this year it's to a contender.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 08:31:22 PM
Not this year he doesn't, and if it's beyond this year it's to a contender.
He's got a NMC this year, but he can still be traded. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on October 12, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
He's got a NMC this year, but he can still be traded. 

If he chooses to he can be, but in the context of "He must do X, or else", no, he can't be.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 12, 2017, 10:27:50 PM
If he chooses to he can be, but in the context of "He must do X, or else", no, he can't be.
Yes I understand how a NMC works. But often if a teams asks a player to waive it, they will. The NMC just gives the player more control.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on October 13, 2017, 03:42:13 AM
A good night when the Jets beat the Canucks 4 - 2.  Even better week if the Bombers beat the Lions on Saturday!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 03:51:06 AM
A good night when the Jets beat the Canucks 4 - 2.  Even better week if the Bombers beat the Lions on Saturday!

Indeed. Nice road win for the Jets tonight! Hellebuyck is looking solid in net.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 13, 2017, 10:40:19 AM
Nice to see Helly backstop us to nice road wins in Edm and Van !
So do we keep him in net, or give Mason another chance ?  ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 11:01:20 AM
Nice to see Helly backstop us to nice road wins in Edm and Van !
So do we keep him in net, or give Mason another chance ?  ???
Helle keeps starting as long as he keeps playing well/winning. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 13, 2017, 11:47:40 AM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 12:25:38 PM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.

Agreed. If not tomorrow, I see Mason getting back in net on Tuesday against the team that drafted him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 13, 2017, 12:30:45 PM
Hellebuyck has played pretty good the past two games but I would give Mason a chance soon to get back in. He deserves it as the team was playing so poorly in front of him. He's got to get his confidence going and build that trust with his defenders.

IMO you ride the hot hand and maintain the line up until cracks start to show. Obviously down the line, assuming BuckBuck continues his great play, he will need a rest, but that may not be for several more games.

"My" plan of Helle coming in and killing it, taking over and owning the starters job is looking good! lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 13, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
Was listening to 1290 yesterday, and they were discussing the conspiracy.  I think it was Weibe that shut them down (although they kept on about it after) by stating:

1 Buff was walking with a limp, no way he goes to that level of deception to hide a benching.

2 A benched player doesn't get to miss practice, they go extra, especially when a bag skate is called.  If you are healthy, you don't skip a bag skate, and if you're being benched you do extra.

Pretty solid reasoning...

Buff is injured, day to day with a lower body soft tissue injury (Weibe also let it drop that it is a groin).  This can be short term, or very long term, needing surgery. 

The way Poolman is playing, not missing Buff at all... 

Here's a concept, Trouba is tied up for 2 years at $3mil.  Does it make sense right now to trade him?  Or do we squeeze this year out of him first?  Once Buff is healthy, that is... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
That Buff contract is now looking like a massive mistake. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 04:25:38 PM
That Buff contract is now looking like a massive mistake. 

After four games...? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 13, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
After four games...? ???

After 2 games ;)

I'm sure, when he gets healthy, Buff will be his normal self.  A risk/reward guy that needs his D partner/forwards to have his back now and then.

Just curious, the Buff/Lean that came to camp was supposed to be in great shape.  Yet he has looked awkward on the ice, and now this injury.  Did he overtrain in the offseason, and not pay attention to his game?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 13, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
Buff goes rogue way too often for my tastes. The best teams win through disciplined systems play combined with superior skill and good goaltending. I think the Jets have the skill and sometimes the goaltending, what we haven't had is great systems play and Buff is one of the reasons for that. He's a rover out there at times which is occasionally brilliant, typically fun to watch, but often a liability.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 13, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
After 2 games ;)

I'm sure, when he gets healthy, Buff will be his normal self.  A risk/reward guy that needs his D partner/forwards to have his back now and then.

Just curious, the Buff/Lean that came to camp was supposed to be in great shape.  Yet he has looked awkward on the ice, and now this injury.  Did he overtrain in the offseason, and not pay attention to his game?

Four games into the season is what I meant. Two games where he didn't look right and then two without him where the team has gone 2-0 isn't a reasonable indication of anything, especially the claim his contract extension is a massive mistake.

I have to think he wasn't 100% to start the season and then exacerbated his injury. I agree when he's 100% and back on the ice he'll be an asset to this team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 13, 2017, 08:28:23 PM
After four games...? ???
Based on this:

Quote
Dellow: Risk, reward and the Dustin Byfuglien question

Since the Jets moved to Winnipeg, Dustin Byfuglien has one of the worst differences between his on-ice and off-ice save percentages at 5-on-5 in the NHL. When Byfuglien's on the ice, the Jets have put up a .909 since 2011-12. When he's on the bench, they've put up a .924. Only Seth Jones and Jake Muzzin have worse differentials amongst defencemen who've been on the ice for at least 2000 shots in that window. They're both much closer to the 2,000 shot threshold (2,337 shots against and 2,406 shots against) than Byfuglien (3,735 shots against), which means that there's probably more noise in their save percentages than in Byfuglien's.
 As a result of this, Byfuglien is one of the unusual players whose Corsi% is quite different than his GF%, even in a large sample. Relative to his team since 2011-12, Byfuglien's Corsi% is 2.4 points better than the Jets when he's on the bench. That's good! His GF% is 1.7 points worse than the Jets when he's not on the ice. That's bad! It's important to note that this is a save percentage problem, not a shooting percentage problem ? the Jets have shot 8.2 per cent with Byfuglien on the ice at 5-on-5 in this time and 8.0 per cent when he's on the bench.

More here: https://theathletic.com/122990/2017/10/10/dellow-risk-reward-and-the-dustin-byfuglien-question/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on October 14, 2017, 05:38:01 AM
FWIW, Chevy and Maurice were at the Moose game last night.  More and more team are moving in the direction of having three scoring lines, and one checking/specialty line instead of a traditional top 6/bottom 6 format.  Could the Jets be thinking of bringing up Connor and Roslovic and sending Dano and perhaps Tanev or Matthias down to the AHL?

As for Buff, I think it will depend on how the rest of our defenders perform throughout the season.  Poolman is playing better than expected.  If Niku turns out to be the best D-man on the Moose and Logan Stanley makes dramatic strides into one day becoming a top pairing D-men (he is tearing up the OHL), Buff may become expendable. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: sweep the leg on October 14, 2017, 01:38:46 PM

I'm pretty sure Buff is currently a healthy scratch. 

You were bang on when you said this about Westerman, so I assume you must be right this time too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 14, 2017, 03:23:39 PM
You were bang on when you said this about Westerman, so I assume you must be right this time too.
Yes, because they're the exact same situation  ::)

And I never said Westerman wasn't injured...I was speculating because the club was hiding everything surrounding the injury, which raised lots of questions.  Everyone was speculating.

But in the end, you can choose to believe whatever you like. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 14, 2017, 03:31:38 PM
Based on this:

[some cherry picked stats that don't come close to painting a complete picture]

Looks like confirmation bias to me.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 14, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
Looks like confirmation bias to me.
If you want to ignore the stats, that's fine with me! 

Those are some very telling and scary stats!  But not surprising. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 14, 2017, 04:10:18 PM
Buff is back in tonight as is Armia. Hellebuyck starts again. Poolman and Lowry out (upper body injury, day-to-day). Not excited about Poolman being out, but I'm hoping he's back in again soon. Solid playing so far. Buff said he had a nagging injury since training camp so I'm hoping that's why his play was so poor. He has to turn the intensity up tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 15, 2017, 01:29:23 AM
 Nice to see Buff play a good game tonight. When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he can single handedly cost a team a win. Good Buff/bad Buff.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 15, 2017, 01:17:04 PM
Nice to see the Helly backstop us to three straight wins!  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 16, 2017, 12:46:41 AM
Nice to see Buff play a good game tonight. When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he can single handedly cost a team a win. Good Buff/bad Buff.

Buff still passes the puck out of the D zone like a drunken sailor. It looked below average in the first couple periods to me.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 16, 2017, 03:11:14 PM
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#NHLJets place Mathieu Perreault on IR and recall Kyle Connor.


Perrealt sure is hurt a lot...hopefully nothing too serious


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on October 16, 2017, 05:04:06 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 16, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.

Huge confidence game for him...he comes in and stinks it up it will a big blow to him mentally...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 16, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
#NHLJets Mathieu Perreault out for approx 4 weeks; Kulikov 2 wks or less; Lowry another game or 2; Mason starts in goal Tues. vs Columbus.

Looking forward to seeing what Connor's got. He has I think 7 points in 4 games with the Moose so far.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2017, 06:21:47 PM
Looking forward to seeing what Connor's got. He has I think 7 points in 4 games with the Moose so far.

This is a great opportunity for him to see if he can stick with the big club. I'm stoked to see him play.

Also glad to learn Mason is getting the start tomorrow vs. the Jackets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 16, 2017, 09:53:08 PM
Press Box Perrault is hurt again.    Bad luck, black cloud or somehow brittle ....... this competitor struggles to stay healthy.
Stats show, not counting 2 incomplete seasons with the Caps, he has played 4 previous seasons here & for various reasons has missed 61 games ..... YIKES !!

Great opportunity for Connor, without a doubt.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 16, 2017, 11:42:16 PM
Huge confidence game for him...he comes in and stinks it up it will a big blow to him mentally...

Agreed. The team is playing better in general so that should help. He really didn't get much help during the first game and a half.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 18, 2017, 12:45:14 AM
Two terrible turnovers leading to Blue Jackets goals followed by a softie goal for Mason. If the Jets are consistent at anything it's being inconsistent. Back to the poor playing after 3 decent to good games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2017, 12:50:18 AM
Two terrible turnovers leading to Blue Jackets goals followed by a softie goal for Mason. If the Jets are consistent at anything it's being inconsistent. Back to the poor playing after 3 decent to good games.

Mason no doubt should've had that last one. But after a solid first period, they just fell apart in the middle frame.

Beauty goal by Connor, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 02:54:27 AM
 I said before and I'm going to say it again.

 This team going anywhere  With a coach like PoMo. Loser coach!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on October 18, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
I said before and I'm going to say it again.

 This team going anywhere  With a coach like PoMo. Loser coach!

Am starting to agree.... I get that Mason is the starter but you just don't sit a goalie whose won 3 straight for you.  Does the team perhaps play a bit differently when #37 is in net?   Back to Helly on Friday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 18, 2017, 11:59:10 AM
This team is really weird, no real identity and it seems that they don't have a sound system or aren't following what they have..they were overplayed in the first period - Mason made some good stops.  I don't have a problem with Maurice giving him a shot, you need 2 goalies and he needed to get his confidence - that didn't happen...

I still think Huddy and Flaherty needed to be axed in the off-season - this division is going to be tough, last night was a winnable game at home and they were outmatched, out played.  Glad I am not dropping 200+ per game to see this anymore (not that Chipman cares as there is still a huge line up of people willing to shell out big $$ for the chance of seeing some exciting offensive play from Laine, Ehlers etc.)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 18, 2017, 01:54:51 PM
3 out of 5 goals were unassisted.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 08:49:04 PM
3 out of 5 goals were unassisted.


meaning?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
meaning?

There was no secondary scoring (assist) on those goals. I think that's what BomberPride means, anyway.

But actually, only two goals were unassisted: Foligno's (10:50 of period 2) and Sedlak's (18:11 of period 2).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 19, 2017, 12:42:29 AM
Looking at the shots allowed during the first six games, we seem to be allowing between 30 and 40 shots per game.
It looks as is Helly is handling the volume, allowing one or two goals per game, which gives us a chance to win.
However, Mason is allowing an average of six goals on the same volume of shots.
Looking at his career stats, it looks as he averaged about 25 to 30 shots per game during his career.
What's different between him and Helly: does he give up more rebounds ?
I heard a comment on a post game show about Helly and how he's like Velcro, not allowing rebounds.
Do the defencemen need to do a better job or clearing rebounds or blocking shots ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 19, 2017, 02:01:40 AM
Do the defencemen need to do a better job or clearing rebounds or blocking shots ?

Yes. Not just the defensemen but the entire team when they're in the defensive zone.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 19, 2017, 04:24:01 PM
meaning?

Meaning turnovers... horrible defence.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 20, 2017, 12:43:25 AM
Mason gives up to many rebounds.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 20, 2017, 04:31:47 PM
Finally...Chiarot is in the lineup... all is saved ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 20, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
Hard earned money t go tonight. Better not be a crapfest!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 21, 2017, 02:05:50 AM
Exciting win ...... the big 6 came thru, HellB was solid & the Dmen seemed pretty thorough.
.......... however the bottom 6 certainly lacked ooomph!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 21, 2017, 02:10:30 AM
Connor has some great vision. Beauty saucer pass to Wheeler for his 200th career goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 22, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
Anyone know why there's 6 days between games?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 22, 2017, 04:35:35 PM
Anyone know why there's 6 days between games?

Bye-week? Is that a thing?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 23, 2017, 10:47:16 AM
They were talking about the long stretch without games on last game's pre-game show. Apparently a number of teams have had this. It was pointed out that due to the World Cup last season, the schedule had to be more condensed. This year without it, games are more spread out. Still seems odd though. With the game against Pittsburgh on Thursday, the Jets play 6 games in 10 days. With the 6 days off prior to that, you would think they could have spread the games out a bit more. Oh well. Maybe it will be good for them to get into a groove again with so many games in a short span.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 23, 2017, 12:25:17 PM
Bye-week? Is that a thing?

It is. The NHL implemented a bye week starting last season. However, this is not the Jets bye week. Their bye week is Jan. 14-19. (https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-bye-weeks-for-2017-18-season/c-290159620 (https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-bye-weeks-for-2017-18-season/c-290159620))

In this instance, it's just weird scheduling from the looks of it.

Anyway, nice win on Friday. That dreaded two-goal lead happened and then the Wild with three straight goals. Great to see the Jets continue to battle and get the equalizer. Laine had a solid game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 23, 2017, 11:09:44 PM
Really hoping Helly and Ehlers have their breakout year this time around.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 24, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
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Paul Maurice confirmed today that Connor Hellebuyck will start Thurs vs PIT.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 24, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
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Paul Maurice confirmed today that Connor Hellebuyck will start Thurs vs PIT.

4-0. Tough not to go with the kid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 24, 2017, 06:19:59 PM
4-0. Tough not to go with the kid.

2.32 GAA and a .928 SV%, not to mention a perfect starting record. Take away his relief duty stats (Oct. 4 vs. TOR) and those numbers sit at 2.00 GAA and a .937 SV%.

He's off to an incredible start.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 27, 2017, 02:34:22 AM
Helly stopped 34 of 36 shots for a .944 save percentage tonight, and allowed 2 goals in 61:07 minutes for a 1.97 GAA.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 27, 2017, 12:15:31 PM
Helly stopped 34 of 36 shots for a .944 save percentage tonight, and allowed 2 goals in 61:07 minutes for a 1.97 GAA.

Unacceptable! Run this guy out of town!

lol. Hey, even though we lost, I really can't ask much more of the team and especially Helle. Came out with a point on the road against the defending champs. No shame.

Gotta admit that Kessel's goal was beautiful.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on October 27, 2017, 02:19:27 PM
Anyone want to mention Pavelec's outing?  Waiting for the ones who will suggest that he would have been a better / cheaper backup to Helle... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on October 27, 2017, 02:43:52 PM
Last night was a great game to watch. Murray was too good, unfortunately lol

Both goals against Helly were 5 hole snipes. I saw better play from the defence, and I hope Connor sticks around.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 27, 2017, 03:34:23 PM
Anyone want to mention Pavelec's outing?  Waiting for the ones who will suggest that he would have been a better / cheaper backup to Helle... 

Anyone who makes that suggestion based on one game isn't thinking straight. For every good game Pavelec has, he has more than a few lousy ones.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 27, 2017, 04:21:24 PM
I saw a secondary scoring chart of all NHL teams yesterday and Winnipeg and Edmonton were the only 2 teams that have not had a 5 on 5 goal scored by a bottom 6 forward. Toronto was ranked first in the NHL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 28, 2017, 12:59:13 AM
Bottom 6er, Tanev gets lone goal, Mason plays quite good, Wheeler absolutely robbed in OT & Buff, later in OT is lazy going back for the puck, Columbus pokes it away ....
...... shortly as in seconds later ...... Jets lose 2-1.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on October 28, 2017, 01:19:50 AM
Mason stopped 35 of 37 shots for a .946 save percentage tonight, and allowed 2 goals in 62:38 minutes for a 1.92 GAA.
This looks more like what we were expecting from him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 28, 2017, 01:26:45 AM
What a bunch of losers with a Loser coach!

On the winning goal for CBJ Buff had a 10ft lead to get to the pick in his own zone coasted in,in an non shalant way as only Buff can do, CBJ player races in easily catches Buff that led to the game winning goal. More concerned with the next fishing trip. A cancer!

Trade his *** now! Buff is a total couch potatoe after about 15 mins of playing time.

Wheeler Little Are MIA

Entrom caused the tying goal with his stupid puck retrieval move in and out maneuver that know one falls for.  
He can?t shot and hit the net he?s sucks period.

See a familiar trend with the players noted above?

ALL LOSER THRASHER PLAYERS WE EXTENDED!

Wheeler is not a good captain he?s a weapon not a leader!!!

Mason stole is the point. Never seen a more pathetic PP. I think if I saw Pomo in the street I?d tell him he?s a loser to his face.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on October 28, 2017, 01:52:08 AM
The Jets got 2/4 possible points against two very strong top ten teams. And it was back-to-back games to boot. Power play needs work for sure but credit to Columbus for a very solid PK. The Jets had no answer for it. The team is coming along after a dreadful start. Sky is definitely not falling yet after only 9 games in.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 28, 2017, 04:57:15 PM
The Jets got 2/4 possible points against two very strong top ten teams. And it was back-to-back games to boot. Power play needs work for sure but credit to Columbus for a very solid PK. The Jets had no answer for it. The team is coming along after a dreadful start. Sky is definitely not falling yet after only 9 games in.

It?s not you are correct however! No visible improvement on some players behalf. Either Buff was lazy or Maurice was stupid enough to put his butt back out there!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on October 28, 2017, 05:37:44 PM
Will be interesting to see if Buff gets an undisclosed injury before Sunday's game (or is this just my wish) & we play a "responsible" player in his place.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: jets4life on October 28, 2017, 09:20:36 PM
I wish Poolman was in the lineup again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: In Motion on October 29, 2017, 05:43:54 PM
Will be interesting to see if Buff gets an undisclosed injury before Sunday's game (or is this just my wish) & we play a "responsible" player in his place.

I have a hard time watching Buff. Wish we could trade him. Otherwise, I think our team is playing some exciting and good hockey. Our goaltending looks better so far this season. I think we'll make the playoffs. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on October 29, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
First period - destroying the champs!!

Don't go to sleep Jets - this could end up being a close game yet. 


Update: guys the lead was safe - nice win


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2017, 01:06:08 PM
What a game last night! Wheeler's third goal was pure filth. Excellent win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on October 30, 2017, 03:48:04 PM
So fun to watch these blowouts when they're on our side! Laid waste to the defending 2x champs!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 31, 2017, 01:32:58 PM
Hellebuyck currently ranked 5th overall in SV% (.937) and 6th in GAA (2.05)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on October 31, 2017, 04:17:50 PM
Hellebuyck currently ranked 5th overall in SV% (.937) and 6th in GAA (2.05)

And he looks to be starting again tonight!

Can't wait.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 31, 2017, 07:58:13 PM
A win tonight would be truly awesome.

Second line needs to step up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 31, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
Solid first period. How the hell was that not a goal for Myers? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 31, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
What a bunch of losers with a Loser coach!

On the winning goal for CBJ Buff had a 10ft lead to get to the pick in his own zone coasted in,in an non shalant way as only Buff can do, CBJ player races in easily catches Buff that led to the game winning goal. More concerned with the next fishing trip. A cancer!

Trade his *** now! Buff is a total couch potatoe after about 15 mins of playing time.

Wheeler Little Are MIA

Entrom caused the tying goal with his stupid puck retrieval move in and out maneuver that know one falls for.  
He can?t shot and hit the net he?s sucks period.

See a familiar trend with the players noted above?

ALL LOSER THRASHER PLAYERS WE EXTENDED!

Wheeler is not a good captain he?s a weapon not a leader!!!

Mason stole is the point. Never seen a more pathetic PP. I think if I saw Pomo in the street I?d tell him he?s a loser to his face.


Dude.

No other coach will come here and change anything. The team is built the way it is.

Its a young fast team that have lots of young talent. Some that is locked up for years. Its not the CFL and only have a few years to build and produce.

Not 20 games in.  Stop freaking out mate  


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 31, 2017, 11:57:52 PM
Solid first period. How the hell was that not a goal for Myers? ???


Ya thats jus stupid


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 01, 2017, 12:01:32 AM
Stop freaking out mate  

GOLDIE needs anger management.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 01, 2017, 01:04:35 AM
GOLDIE needs anger management.

I just do not like seeing crappy proformances and you can call me angry Greg  LOL

Great Helle performance and good D

Stay out of the box boys and bring it home!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 01, 2017, 01:40:46 AM
Solid road win

Helle is the MVP so far easily

Ehlers effort is golden


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 01, 2017, 01:47:22 AM

Ya thats jus stupid


Horrid officiating for both sides


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 01, 2017, 02:19:42 AM
Felt the Jets escaped with this one .......... great pressure by Wild & wow did they ever turn it up ice fast, with a lot of shot attempts throughout ......... HellB - awesome
Definitely liked how Jets collapsed to protect against rebounds under the chaos.
Huge chances for the shots we had ......... bring on Dallas


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 01, 2017, 12:23:16 PM
Solid first period. How the hell was that not a goal for Myers? ???

...it was.....except it wasn't  :-\

2-0 against division opponents. And they were clean wins. We didn't give away any loser points to our division or conference yet.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 01, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
watched only the end of second and third...thought the Jets were going to give it away after Ehlers scored...they looked like they were skating with lead shoes.  I was hoping Pomo would call a timeout and tell them to wake up.  Thankfully Helly and and some good bounces outlasted the Wild rush at the end.

At some point in the next couple of years we will be in a playoff series with the Wild and it will be crazy...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 01, 2017, 01:44:49 PM
Aside from the furious late Wild pressure the Jets had clean look to include fefe on a beak away a scramble play by Wheeler chance and Ehlers had a crack as well.

Shots ended up being relatively even. I think.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 01, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
...it was.....except it wasn't  :-\

2-0 against division opponents. And they were clean wins. We didn't give away any loser points to our division or conference yet.

Great point. Literally doing all we can to force our way into the play offs so far.

Tied with Dallas for 2nd in the Central and we play them tomorrow!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 01, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
Great point. Literally doing all we can to force our way into the play offs so far.

Tied with Dallas for 2nd in the Central and we play them tomorrow!

Yep, can't wait for that one. It'll be the first game I've attended against a division opponent so I'm expecting a great atmosphere.

Helly in net again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on November 01, 2017, 11:33:57 PM
Helle is now ranked 5th in GAA and 4th in Save Pct:
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?report=goaliesummary&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20172018&seasonTo=20172018&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,4&sort=savePctg,wins,goalsAgainstAverage


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 02, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Yep, can't wait for that one. It'll be the first game I've attended against a division opponent so I'm expecting a great atmosphere.

Helly in net again.
do not eclectic to much ?electricity? the wildness of Jet fans is gone. The Hab game Saturday will be better. I went to the Wild game earlier it wasn?t much special.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 02, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
do not eclectic to much ?electricity? the wildness of Jet fans is gone. The Hab game Saturday will be better. I went to the Wild game earlier it wasn?t much special.

All the losers in Habs jerseys will be there...hoping for a shut-out to send them home to cry in their soup...

Haven't been to a Jets game in a couple of years but can notice on TV it isn't as loud and crazy as those first few years.  The "Go Jets Go" just doesn't have the same intensity.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 02, 2017, 02:53:09 PM
All the losers in Habs jerseys will be there...hoping for a shut-out to send them home to cry in their soup...

Haven't been to a Jets game in a couple of years but can notice on TV it isn't as loud and crazy as those first few years.  The "Go Jets Go" just doesn't have the same intensity.

Too be expected, but I think it'll pick up if we keep rolling like this. After our last two outings and considering our standings compared to Dallas I think excitement will grow as faith in the team does.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 02, 2017, 03:30:45 PM
need to get this dude on track...Ehlers is filling in nicely but need a 100% Laine to win consistently..


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Patrick Laine brutally honest about low confidence he has right now. Asked what he?s struggling with he said ?ice hockey,? aka everything.



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 02, 2017, 04:35:51 PM
need to get this dude on track...Ehlers is filling in nicely but need a 100% Laine to win consistently..


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Patrick Laine brutally honest about low confidence he has right now. Asked what he?s struggling with he said ?ice hockey,? aka everything.



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/laine-it-feels-like-hockey-is-really-hard-right-now~1248113)

That stinks.

He actually seems to be skating well, I've noticed him defensively a couple of times. He simply isn't getting set up to score like he was last season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 02, 2017, 04:45:51 PM
That stinks.

He actually seems to be skating well, I've noticed him defensively a couple of times. He simply isn't getting set up to score like he was last season.

I wonder if other teams are game planning against him which is why a lot of our other guys are looking more super-starrish than usual as of late?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 02, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
I wonder if other teams are game planning against him which is why a lot of our other guys are looking more super-starrish than usual as of late?

Has to be part of it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 03, 2017, 12:55:21 AM
Another disallowed goal against the Jets. I am flabbergasted that the goal did not count. Momentum shift right there and the Stars score. Total BS. Not to forget Bishop smacking Lemieux in the face and Lemieux getting penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct :P


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2017, 12:59:46 AM
Yep, can't wait for that one. It'll be the first game I've attended against a division opponent so I'm expecting a great atmosphere.

Helly in net again.
I stand corrected seems like a very lively crowd tonight at the barn

Crappy late period farts goal


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2017, 01:19:25 AM
FEFE!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 03, 2017, 01:34:30 AM
Crazy pace to this game.  No stoppages. 


Connor with a lame penalty shot - got away from him...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 03, 2017, 01:45:18 AM
Jets win !!!

Nice little points run here...this will be great for springtime standings. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on November 03, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
The Wild beat up on the Habs last night........ Carey Price looks lost out there.  Gotta keep up the pace as the Habs aren't very good right now.  Coyotes, Vegas, and Dallas next week.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 03, 2017, 11:39:59 AM
Another disallowed goal against the Jets. I am flabbergasted that the goal did not count. Momentum shift right there and the Stars score. Total BS. Not to forget Bishop smacking Lemieux in the face and Lemieux getting penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct :P

Reffing was an absolute farce. Bishop stuck his stick in front of Sheif's skate, then Sheif was pushed laterally by the defence. Shot was glove side. What a joke.

On a positive note, Jets have become a lot stronger on the forcheck. Nice to see Laine got one.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 03, 2017, 12:16:37 PM
Officiating was absolutely baffling on another disallowed goal and the Lemieux penalty. How does taking a punch in the face from a goalie warrant a penalty? ???

Good game otherwise, though. Scheifele and Wheeler had nice chemistry, Laine finally gets a goal, and the special teams were clicking. Hellebuyck had another strong outing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 03, 2017, 12:39:54 PM
From twitter:


Stars coach Ken Hitchcock says Jets may be playing the best hockey of any Central Div. team. ?They look like a pack of wolves right now.?


That is exactly what I hope this team can be and continue. - fast and mean and will make you pay for your mistakes - and doing it as a team...

let's keep it going - lock the points away in the standings


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 03, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
Such a fun time at the Phone Booth last night!!! Goals, fights, penalty shot, hat trick, controversy. Had it all.

Sure is feeling like we are for real right now, isn't it?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 03, 2017, 01:44:23 PM
Anyone know what the record is for longest time without a whistle in the NHL?   I can't remember a game that I watched get going longer than what we saw yesterday.  Think it was close to 10 minutes of solid play...that has to be pretty rare.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on November 03, 2017, 04:49:01 PM
Anyone know what the record is for longest time without a whistle in the NHL?   I can't remember a game that I watched get going longer than what we saw yesterday.  Think it was close to 10 minutes of solid play...that has to be pretty rare.

I think it's around 15 minutes


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 03, 2017, 04:57:28 PM
I think it's around 15 minutes

Thanks - that's crazy, apparently last night was 10:31 which is pretty neat..


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 03, 2017, 06:05:39 PM
@renlavoietva
Lower body injury for Carey Price. Al Montoya vs #jets #tvasports


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 03, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
I wonder if Mason gets the start tomorrow.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 03, 2017, 06:27:31 PM
I wonder if Mason gets the start tomorrow.

I would have said no, but with Price out we may use this opportunity to get him in. But there's also a back-to-back coming after the Montreal game isn't there?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 03, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
I wonder if Mason gets the start tomorrow.

I'm not really sure I would understand it if they did. I've never bought into #1 Mason, #2 Hellebuyck, and it's certainly not a platoon. IMO, unless it's b2b or the hot goalie is overworked, you keep starting the hot goalie. I feel like putting in Mason would just be a nice gesture at this point. I think Helle is our guy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 03, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
I'm not really sure I would understand it if they did. I've never bought into #1 Mason, #2 Hellebuyck, and it's certainly not a platoon. IMO, unless it's b2b or the hot goalie is overworked, you keep starting the hot goalie. I feel like putting in Mason would just be a nice gesture at this point. I think Helle is our guy.

I think it's also important not to over work Helle early in the season. If we keep going like this, we want to keep him strong for a play off push.

And Mason did redeem himself in his last start.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 03, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
I think it's also important not to over work Helle early in the season. If we keep going like this, we want to keep him strong for a play off push.

And Mason did redeem himself in his last start.

Yeah I understand the overworking thing, I just don?t think we have overworked him yet. I don?t have a hate-on for Mason, just think Helle is clearly better.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: True Blue on November 03, 2017, 10:41:05 PM
We need Mason to get his stuff together and be a help to Helly.  Helly has looked good so far but still need good mentor to take the next step.

I am curious as to what Masons attitude is right now.  He was nominated starting goalie before training camp by Chevy, was he not?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 03, 2017, 11:20:08 PM
Yeah I understand the overworking thing, I just don?t think we have overworked him yet. I don?t have a hate-on for Mason, just think Helle is clearly better.

Agreed 100%

I just don?t want Helle to have 70-something starts at the end of the season, so throw Mason a bone here and there (beyond the back-to-Back games), in order to conserve that season strength.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2017, 05:52:58 PM
Yeah I understand the overworking thing, I just don?t think we have overworked him yet. I don?t have a hate-on for Mason, just think Helle is clearly better.

No question who the better goalie is so far this season. But the Habs are struggling, the Jets are playing very well, and this seems like a good time to get Mason back on the ice, IMO.

But Hellebuyck's starting, so nevermind. LOL :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 04, 2017, 10:10:31 PM
Lots of Habs jerseys in the arena.... yuck. Hopefully they all go home sad.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on November 05, 2017, 01:46:41 PM
How did we manage to get outshot 50-23 by Montreal and blow a 2 goal lead in the third period ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 05, 2017, 07:30:42 PM
this was certainly one night when pure hustle & hunger to be on top of the opponent came out ahead.
No doubt the Jets have & had the best top 6 vs the Habs but that just didn't matter ...... our foe beat us to the puck & jumped on the mistakes
........ such as Buff's inability to clear our end & believe it was Enstrom's error behind our net & voila ----- OT loss.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 06, 2017, 12:10:21 PM
this was certainly one night when pure hustle & hunger to be on top of the opponent came out ahead.
No doubt the Jets have & had the best top 6 vs the Habs but that just didn't matter ...... our foe beat us to the puck & jumped on the mistakes
........ such as Buff's inability to clear our end & believe it was Enstrom's error behind our net & voila ----- OT loss.

That was a horrible non call for interference for Buff by the refs. What really hurt was the needless cross-check by Myers that gave them the power play.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 06, 2017, 01:37:46 PM
Very good points for sure


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2017, 03:09:53 AM
Another impressive win over a division rival.

Scheifele starts and ends the scoring, Laine pots another in his third straight game, and Wheeler gets four apples. Hellebuyck was a beauty again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 07, 2017, 03:13:53 AM
Another impressive win over a division rival.

Scheifele starts and ends the scoring, Laine pots another in his third straight game, and Wheeler gets four apples. Hellebuyck was a beauty again.

Solid road win I would like to add as well.

Firmly entrenched in second place in the central


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2017, 03:16:18 AM
Solid road win I would like to add as well.

Firmly entrenched in second place in the central

No more "fire PoMo" comments from you is nice, too. ;D

Fun fact: Hellebuyck is 8-0-2 so far this season. Incredible.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 07, 2017, 12:02:33 PM
No more "fire PoMo" comments from you is nice, too. ;D

Fun fact: Hellebuyck is 8-0-2 so far this season. Incredible.

With a 2.12 GAA and a 0.936 save %

Just incredible.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 07, 2017, 01:34:26 PM
No more "fire PoMo" comments from you is nice, too. ;D

Fun fact: Hellebuyck is 8-0-2 so far this season. Incredible.

Seems too good to be true!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 07, 2017, 01:37:10 PM
Great run by the Jets right now, and Hellebuyck is outstanding! Hopefully they don't have too much fun in Vegas ;D

On another note, I am so confused as to what is goaltender interference. I thought for sure, based on the no goal that they called on Scheifele in the first game between Dallas and WPG, that last night's goal by Dallas would also be a no goal. I just don't get it. The Jets have had some bad breaks and bad calls go against them in the past four or so games, but it's nice to see them not collapsing. Except for the Montreal game, they have been playing very well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2017, 01:41:40 PM
With a 2.12 GAA and a 0.936 save %

Just incredible.

Seems too good to be true!

That NET360 goalie camp he attended over the summer is paying off in a big way for him and for the team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 07, 2017, 02:40:06 PM
Only LA and TB have less losses then the Jets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 07, 2017, 02:55:22 PM
Wheeler 3rd in NHL scoring with 21 points in 14 games. 13 in his last 5!
Hellebuyck now 3rd in SV% with .936 and 4th in GAA with 2.12!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 07, 2017, 03:01:02 PM
I take it there's no way Kyle Connor gets sent back down, eh? Fitting in like a glove.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 07, 2017, 03:10:47 PM
I take it there's no way Kyle Connor gets sent back down, eh? Fitting in like a glove.

Probably not. When's Perreault due back?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 07, 2017, 08:21:18 PM
Probably not. When's Perreault due back?
I hear at least another week.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on November 09, 2017, 12:36:19 AM
Connor wont go down anyway


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 11, 2017, 02:28:06 AM
Tonights game is Neal audition for Jets trade

Trouba  and a 6th rounder

For

Neal and grade B at worst prospect prefer a D and a  3rd rounder!!!

Neal needs to agree in extension of 2-3 years to happen?

lol

GO JETS GO


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 11, 2017, 06:30:47 PM
Tonight?s game is Neal?s audition for Jets trade

Trouble and a 6th rounder

For

Neal and grade B at worst prospect prefer a D and there next 3rd rounder!!!

Neal needs to agree in extension of 2-3 years to happen?

lol

GO JETS GO

Uh, what? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 11, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
Uh, what? ???
fixed thoughts?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 12, 2017, 05:53:44 AM
fixed thoughts?

The Jets don't need another forward. And trading Trouba would be just stupid.

Nice bounceback in Phoenix tonight. And Mason gets his first W as a Jet.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 12, 2017, 01:42:07 PM
The Jets don't need another forward. And trading Trouba would be just stupid.

Nice bounceback in Phoenix tonight. And Mason gets his first W as a Jet.

That is only if Trouba dose not sign wanna resign and stay. With Neal would be awesome top 9, best in the league top 9. Pittsburgh loads up on scoring punch all the time. Why can?t we?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 12, 2017, 01:42:56 PM
Nice to see Mason win yesterday
He played solid
Fefe continues to amaze


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 12, 2017, 02:27:00 PM
Great to see Mason pick up his first W. That was a long time coming for him.

Sheifele and Connor and Laine, oh my.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 12, 2017, 03:43:25 PM
That is only if Trouba dose not sign wanna resign and stay. With Neal would be awesome top 9, best in the league top 9. Pittsburgh loads up on scoring punch all the time. Why can?t we?

The Jets have more than enough forward depth. Adding another one with a $5M cap hit doesn't make any sense. Scoring isn't necessarily a problem for the Jets, anyway.

If Trouba does want out, he should be moved for another defenseman.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: In Motion on November 13, 2017, 12:50:25 PM
Jets are playing great. Looks like they've finally learned how to stay out of the penalty box.
If only Buff would bring it every game. What does it take to motivate that guy?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 13, 2017, 06:21:20 PM
Having Perrault on the third line is going to be awesome...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 14, 2017, 01:20:23 PM
Having Perrault on the third line is going to be awesome...

Agreed. Should give the Jets three legit scoring lines.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 14, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
to an earlier comment or two ........ I feel that if Buff or Trouba were to be moved, that Chevy needs to bring in a Top LH shot Dman.
Though I think the world of Morrissey, he & Kulikov are not relevant when thinking of PP shot from the point.
For me, Meyers & Trouba could certainly be productive on the PP but a left shot Dman is missing ........ oh & Buff is overused in my opinion.

Bit disappointed that Mason is not in goal tonight, as I think he deserves it & why not HellB vs the Flyers ...... as I don't buy into Mason should play vs his former team

CONCERN: the lack of offensive results, at even strength,  from Little (at +/- 0) centering Ehlers & Laine who are both at -1.
Little is super at faceoffs but as a line I don't see the gelling, with control of puck & multiple chances created, per game .......... all 3 hopefully will blossom tonight


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 14, 2017, 08:07:37 PM

Bit disappointed that Mason is not in goal tonight, as I think he deserves it & why not HellB vs the Flyers ...... as I don't buy into Mason should play vs his former team


I think it makes sense to give the nod to the starting goalie after the backup got his game in, in the b2b on the weekend. I think Mason wants to play his former team and they will give that to him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 15, 2017, 12:53:47 PM
I think Mason needed a W to get his rhythm/confidence going against his former team. Otherwise, I'd say Helly would have gotten the start.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 15, 2017, 01:19:05 PM
Good. Beat a team we should have beaten.

I know we saw this demonstrated Saturday, but my goodness Arizona is an awful team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 15, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
Good. Beat a team we should have beaten.

I know we saw this demonstrated Saturday, but my goodness Arizona is an awful team.

Yeah, the Jets still seem to play down to their opponent at times. But when they did turn it up last night, they made their opportunities count.

Loved the ceremony for Ducky. I can't wait to see who's next.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 15, 2017, 01:41:58 PM
Yeah, the Jets still seem to play down to their opponent at times. But when they did turn it up last night, they made their opportunities count.

Loved the ceremony for Ducky. I can't wait to see who's next.

I think it might be Steen, but that's just a guess. Maybe some older fans will have a better idea of who it ought to be. They appear to be going chronologically through the eras, so Steen was a part of the Hawerchuck glory days and would fit in being inducted second to him.

Those banners, along with the Moose ones, sure do look sexy hanging from the rafters at our barn.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 15, 2017, 05:24:29 PM
Loved the ceremony for Ducky. I can't wait to see who's next.

This is where it gets confusing weird. Kovalchuk?  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 15, 2017, 07:44:56 PM
This is where it gets confusing. Kovalchuk?

No, it isn't confusing. There's no rationale at this point in time honouring a player who never wore a Jets jersey, be it 1.0 or 2.0, over actual individuals who did play hockey here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 15, 2017, 07:48:21 PM
No, it isn't confusing. There's no rationale at this point in time honouring a player who never wore a Jets jersey, be it 1.0 or 2.0, over actual individuals who did play hockey here.

Agreed - hoist up a Ray Neufeld banner before Kovalchuk...

I am not confused in the least.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on November 15, 2017, 08:17:46 PM
I think it might be Steen, but that's just a guess. Maybe some older fans will have a better idea of who it ought to be. They appear to be going chronologically through the eras, so Steen was a part of the Hawerchuck glory days and would fit in being inducted second to him.

Those banners, along with the Moose ones, sure do look sexy hanging from the rafters at our barn.
Steen had some domestic violence issues recently, so I think TNSE will avoid him, because of the controversy that will follow. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 15, 2017, 08:53:35 PM
Steen had some domestic violence issues recently, so I think TNSE will avoid him, because of the controversy that will follow. 

Bobby Hull.

But yeah, I forgot about that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 15, 2017, 09:43:21 PM
Was real pleased to see how well HellB played last night ........... he made multiple stops that were so crucial.
If he had been a bit off earlier in game, then the Coyote confidence level would sure have made this game a tougher one to win.

Hooray for Little ..... nice finish


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: True Blue on November 16, 2017, 12:20:10 AM
Good. Beat a team we should have beaten.

I know we saw this demonstrated Saturday, but my goodness Arizona is an awful team.

I think the Moose may be able to keep up them right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
No, it isn't confusing. There's no rationale at this point in time honouring a player who never wore a Jets jersey, be it 1.0 or 2.0, over actual individuals who did play hockey here.

I don't disagree, and I understand why the Jets are adding members into their hall of fame, but I will point out that the Arizona Coyotes have retired Bobby Hull's number.

Edit: Just fact checked this and looks like Hull's number 9 was put back into circulation when the team was sold a couple of years ago. Clayton Keller is currently #9.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 16, 2017, 02:42:43 PM
I don't disagree, and I understand why the Jets are adding members into their hall of fame, but I will point out that the Arizona Coyotes have retired Bobby Hull's number.

Edit: Just fact checked this and looks like Hull's number 9 was put back into circulation when the team was sold a couple of years ago. Clayton Keller is currently #9.

And I will point out that I don't think TNSE cares what the Coyotes do/did.

I doubt we ever see any honours given to Thrashers players.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 16, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
I don't disagree, and I understand why the Jets are adding members into their hall of fame, but I will point out that the Arizona Coyotes have retired Bobby Hull's number.

Edit: Just fact checked this and looks like Hull's number 9 was put back into circulation when the team was sold a couple of years ago. Clayton Keller is currently #9.

TNSE doesn't give two rips about the Coyotes or what that joke of a franchise does. The organization who brought the NHL back here cares about one thing: hockey in Winnipeg. As such, it has decided to embrace the history of hockey in Winnipeg, which means honouring those who played for the previous iteration from 1972-1996.

As for the current iteration, Ilya Kovalupchuk is irrelevant to it. Same as any other player who was at Atlanta Thrasher but never a Winnipeg Jet. As I said in my previous post, there is no confusion whatsoever.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on November 16, 2017, 03:58:43 PM
TNSE doesn't give two rips about the Coyotes or what that joke of a franchise does. The organization who brought the NHL back here cares about one thing: hockey in Winnipeg. As such, it has decided to embrace the history of hockey in Winnipeg, which means honouring those who played for the previous iteration from 1972-1996.

As for the current iteration, Ilya Kovalupchuk is irrelevant to it. Same as any other player who was at Atlanta Thrasher but never a Winnipeg Jet. As I said in my previous post, there is no confusion whatsoever.

Couldn't agree more.  Only players that suited up for the Jets 1.0 or WHA Jets (or the future Jets 2.0) deserve any consideration to to honored ala Hawerchuk the other night. Steen should likely be next followed by Selanne.  Selanne may not a played here for long but the impression he left on the city speaks for itself.

I always looked at the Coyotes honoring Hull, Steen, and Hawerchuk as kind of a joke.  They were trotted out to Arizona to boost ticket sales.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 16, 2017, 04:33:55 PM
Anyone else worthy of being honoured from Jets 1.0 besides Steen and Selanne? Opinions from older fans who remember that era well? I can think of some fan favourites, but I wouldn't want to water it down. Might be good to stick with the 6 banners until enough time has passed for Jets 2.0 to be considered, when Blake Wheeler is in his 70s. Maybe we can hang some division, conference, or league championship banners up in the meantime to fill in the lull ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 05:19:49 PM
I crossed out the word confusing from my original post, it was a bad choice of words and makes me look stupid. :D
Not really confused, but I thought Kovalchuk might be an interesting debate just based on what the Coyotes franchise did by honouring players that never played in that city. You guy are right, what Arizona did is irrelevant and quite frankly weird.  :D I can't see the Jets flying him in from Russia, having him standing at center ice in a city he's never visited, as they raise an Atlanta Thrashers banner to the rafters of Bell MTS Place.  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 16, 2017, 05:27:25 PM
Looks like Mathias is coming out for Perreault. Good choice, Mathias has had some recent chances but can never seem to finish.
How long does he stay on the "4th line"? It's going to be tough to take away minutes from Copp/Lowry/Tanev, those guys are forechecking so well lately.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 16, 2017, 10:24:10 PM
I crossed out the word confusing from my original post, it was a bad choice of words and makes me look stupid. :D
Not really confused, but I thought Kovalchuk might be an interesting debate just based on what the Coyotes franchise did by honouring players that never played in that city. You guy are right, what Arizona did is irrelevant and quite frankly weird.  :D I can't see the Jets flying him in from Russia, having him standing at center ice in a city he's never visited, as they raise an Atlanta Thrashers banner to the rafters of Bell MTS Place.  :D
Kovalchuk definitely visited here few times. As a member of the New Jersey devils. I saw him live at least twice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 16, 2017, 10:25:29 PM
Looks like Mathias is coming out for Perreault. Good choice, Mathias has had some recent chances but can never seem to finish.
How long does he stay on the "4th line"? It's going to be tough to take away minutes from Copp/Lowry/Tanev, those guys are forechecking so well lately.

No it will take no tie away for the excellent 3rd line. He?s just not gonna see the ice that much.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 12:16:38 AM
Hellebuck in net and gives up a juicy rebound.  Need to stay on a roll ...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 17, 2017, 12:25:14 AM
+ bone head Buff makes an appearance not to mention a pure PK garbage. No puck pressure never works!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2017, 01:18:26 AM
Hellebuck in net and gives up a juicy rebound.  Need to stay on a roll ...

Jets are looking slow and outta sorts so far tonight. Not sure if I'd blame Hellebuyck for the Jets being down 2-0 after 20.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
Jets are looking slow and outta sorts so far tonight. Not sure if I'd blame Hellebuyck for the Jets being down 2-0 after 20.

Nah.  Was just that first goal and the big rebound.  They have looked uninspired and disinterested for lots of this game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 02:46:20 AM
Jets woke up.  Great play to tie it up with the goalie pulled!!

Now to get that elusive OT win!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 03:03:32 AM
Shootout win!!!  We will take the 2 points !!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 17, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
And the beat goes on with these Jets in a game we were surely about to lose. Spendid  :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 17, 2017, 01:06:17 PM
It's wins like this that will push us into the playoffs this year. Much different story than last year. 4th overall at the moment in the league and second in the division! Checking the standings has never been more fun  ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Nah.  Was just that first goal and the big rebound.  They have looked uninspired and disinterested for lots of this game

Yeah, that was not a good game for the home team last night. Taking a point would've been nice but to get two after that performance is thievery at its finest.

Glad Perreault is okay, too. That hack from Gudas was disgusting and I hope Parros throws the book at that jerk.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 17, 2017, 01:44:56 PM
Yeah, that was not a good game for the home team last night. Taking a point would've been nice but to get two after that performance is thievery at its finest.

Glad Perreault is okay, too. That hack from Gudas was disgusting and I hope Parros throws the book at that jerk.

In the post game show they were calling for 10 games. IIRC he is a repeat offender who received 6 last year, so I think with this in mind 10 would be very, very generous of Parros.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 17, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
Gave the edge to Flyers in who might have won but ......... super surprise tie on a beautiful pass & snap for the goal

Expect 6 for Gudas


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2017, 06:02:27 PM
Gudas gets an in-person hearing, which means at least 5 games: http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472 (http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on November 17, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
Anyone else worthy of being honoured from Jets 1.0 besides Steen and Selanne? Opinions from older fans who remember that era well? I can think of some fan favourites, but I wouldn't want to water it down. Might be good to stick with the 6 banners until enough time has passed for Jets 2.0 to be considered, when Blake Wheeler is in his 70s. Maybe we can hang some division, conference, or league championship banners up in the meantime to fill in the lull ;)
Eddie O? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 17, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
Eddie O? 
If they put him in might as put Doug "stone hands" Smail


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 17, 2017, 08:56:50 PM
If they put him in might as put Doug "stone hands" Smail

Doug Smail didn't have "stone hands". Jimmy Mann, ray neufeld...those guys were real stone hands.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on November 17, 2017, 08:58:03 PM
Gudas gets an in-person hearing, which means at least 5 games: http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472 (http://www.tsn.ca/gudas-offered-in-person-hearing-for-slash-1.918472)

It doesn't automatically set the minimum to 5 games, it just allows them to suspend the player for more than 5 games should they choose to. I don't know if there are any instances of the suspension from an in person hearing being less than 5 games though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on November 17, 2017, 11:33:16 PM
If they put him in might as put Doug "stone hands" Smail
I thought Ray Neufeld was known as ?stone hands??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 18, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
I thought Ray Neufeld was known as ?stone hands??
i think they both had no hands LOL

Jets look like a power house team. Laid a licking on Devils.

Climb only 2points back of the blues with a game at hand.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 18, 2017, 11:31:50 PM
Great win today vs. a really good team! Hellebuyck was a monster again and the Jets' offense came to life in the middle frame.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 18, 2017, 11:46:42 PM
Go Canucks Go


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on November 19, 2017, 02:35:10 AM
i think they both had no hands LOL

Jets look like a power house team. Laid a licking on Devils.

Climb only 2points back of the blues with a game at hand.

Fire everyone quick.

Its all crap

smh.

Sometimes i wonder about u


LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 19, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
The Jets are like, really really good. I'm in disbelief.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 19, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
This team is really weird, no real identity and it seems that they don't have a sound system or aren't following what they have..they were overplayed in the first period - Mason made some good stops.  I don't have a problem with Maurice giving him a shot, you need 2 goalies and he needed to get his confidence - that didn't happen...

I still think Huddy and Flaherty needed to be axed in the off-season - this division is going to be tough, last night was a winnable game at home and they were outmatched, out played.  Glad I am not dropping 200+ per game to see this anymore (not that Chipman cares as there is still a huge line up of people willing to shell out big $$ for the chance of seeing some exciting offensive play from Laine, Ehlers etc.)

What a difference a few weeks makes...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 19, 2017, 07:00:54 PM
What a difference a few weeks makes...

Looks like everyone is finally buying into what the coaching staff is selling.

Enstrom expected to miss 8 weeks, Poolman re-called: http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 20, 2017, 01:08:14 AM
Looks like everyone is finally buying into what the coaching staff is selling.

Enstrom expected to miss 8 weeks, Poolman re-called: http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/11/19/injury-news-winnipeg-jets-tobias-enstrom-expected-to-miss-8-weeks/)

Blessing in disguise I beckon

Poolman time!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 20, 2017, 01:26:08 AM
It doesn't automatically set the minimum to 5 games, it just allows them to suspend the player for more than 5 games should they choose to. I don't know if there are any instances of the suspension from an in person hearing being less than 5 games though.

JUST IN: @NHLFlyers D Radko Gudas suspended ten games for his slash on @NHLJets F Mathieu Perreault. MORE: tsn.ca/gudas-suspende? #NHL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on November 20, 2017, 01:50:21 AM
Well deserved, I say.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 20, 2017, 02:42:47 AM
JUST IN: @NHLFlyers D Radko Gudas suspended ten games for his slash on @NHLJets F Mathieu Perreault. MORE: tsn.ca/gudas-suspende? #NHL
GOOD!

Definition of meathead


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 20, 2017, 02:47:58 AM
Congrats to Parros for stepping up ......... Witkowski got 10 & now Gudas is out for the same


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 20, 2017, 03:07:46 PM
What a difference a few weeks makes...

No Kidding.

I was concerned with the lack of offense, primarily.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 20, 2017, 04:04:52 PM
JUST IN: @NHLFlyers D Radko Gudas suspended ten games for his slash on @NHLJets F Mathieu Perreault. MORE: tsn.ca/gudas-suspende? #NHL

I like how upfront the NHL is. There's a video explaining the thought process and the reasoning for the final result. The article states the exact amount of the fine. That's good accountability. In the CFL the league just says 'we fined the guy for an undisclosed amount'.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on November 20, 2017, 08:01:33 PM
These next 4 games will go a long long way to determining our playoff aspirations.  I would personally be satisfied going 2-2 if somehow we can manage to beat the Preds tonight.
Lose and we're 1 point ahead. Win and we're 5 points ahead.  Not too mention American Thanksgiving is only 3 days away.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 20, 2017, 08:10:55 PM
These next 4 games will go a long long way to determining our playoff aspirations.  I would personally be satisfied going 2-2 if somehow we can manage to beat the Preds tonight.
Lose and we're 1 point ahead. Win and we're 5 points ahead.  Not too mention American Thanksgiving is only 3 days away.

that might be over-stating it a bit..there is still lots that can happen in the season...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 21, 2017, 02:30:32 AM
Not the greatest game tonight....some sloppy play in our own end. Maybe Enstrom is missed more than I thought. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 21, 2017, 02:44:33 AM
The middle frame killed 'em... But they're making it interesting late in this one.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 21, 2017, 02:51:49 AM
The middle frame killed 'em... But they're making it interesting late in this one.

Yah.  Just outta time. Nashville is a good team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 21, 2017, 02:55:21 AM
Yah.  Just outta time. Nashville is a good team.

Best home PP in the league, IIRC. And they made the Jets pay tonight in that regard.

Ah, well... On to the next.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 21, 2017, 12:37:40 PM
Can't win 'em all. Nash is a very good team. They had their hiccups but overall didn't play a bad game, just weren't the better team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on November 22, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
Correction  ;)

Connor Hellybyuck is like, really really good. I'm in disbelief.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 22, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
Correction  ;)


Definitely, reliable and clutch goaltending is the difference between this year and last year. We were always able to pot it in the back of the net, but had to win games 5-4. No argument here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 22, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet?  Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him? 

I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him. 

If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good...  and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 22, 2017, 04:31:34 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet?  Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him? 

I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him. 

If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good...  and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad... 

Move on from Trouba? Are you crazy? If we're forced to deal him when his UFA deadline finally gets closer that's one thing, but in no way should we 'move on' from one of our best players just because he hasn't signed a long-term deal yet.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 22, 2017, 04:32:46 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet?  Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him? 

I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him. 

If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good...  and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad... 

Hmm, haven't heard anything about that. I really hope it's reporters being bored and he signs long term this summer.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 22, 2017, 05:32:29 PM
Jacob Trouba is the bobble head they are giving away at one of the last home games this season, so Chevy knows something we don't. He's here for the longhaul.  ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet?  Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him? 

I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him. 

If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good...  and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad... 

No, it's not time to trade Trouba. What credible source has said he won't sign a long-term deal or that he doesn't want to be here?

And no, the "does he want to be here" conversation doesn't make anyone look bad, especially the team.

Where do you come up with this stuff? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 05:42:42 PM
No, it's not time to trade Trouba. What credible source has said he won't sign a long-term deal or that he doesn't want to be here?

And no, the "does he want to be here" conversation doesn't make anyone look bad, especially the team.

Where do you come up with this stuff? ???

This is hardly making stuff up. Trouba sat out games last season asking for a trade. This isn't some rumour, it's what we all witnessed.

I hope we can resign Trouba, but I hope that Chevy has a clear understanding of Trouba's intentions (I'm sure he does) prior to the FA deadline so we can deal him if we need to.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 22, 2017, 05:56:03 PM
This is hardly making stuff up. Trouba sat out games last season asking for a trade. This isn't some rumour, it's what we all witnessed.

I hope we can resign Trouba, but I hope that Chevy has a clear understanding of Trouba's intentions (I'm sure he does) prior to the FA deadline so we can deal him if we need to.

It is making stuff up. If you want to be specific about it, officially he held out for two reasons:

1) He wanted to play on the right side
2) He wanted to play in the top 4 (or get top 4 minutes, however you look at it)

That was his official stance all the way through the holdout. He never said he 'didn't want to be here (in Winnipeg specifically) or anything like that. You may find rumours or speculations on that, but he nor his agent every listed that as the reason. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 22, 2017, 06:32:14 PM
I too haven't heard a peep about any of this Trouba not wanting to play here or sign a long term deal stuff... There was definitely lots of talk about that last fall when he was holding out but I haven't heard anything negative since then. I'm not buying it.

Going to be tough to stay up for the late game tonight. UGh, 9:30 start time. Friday's game in the afternoon is weird too. I get that it's a holiday in the US, but when one of the teams is Canadian (non-holiday team), you would think they would try and somewhat accommodate us too. Ah well. Time to get some wins in California.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 22, 2017, 07:23:19 PM
It is making stuff up. If you want to be specific about it, officially he held out for two reasons:

1) He wanted to play on the right side
2) He wanted to play in the top 4 (or get top 4 minutes, however you look at it)

That was his official stance all the way through the holdout. He never said he 'didn't want to be here (in Winnipeg specifically) or anything like that. You may find rumours or speculations on that, but he nor his agent every listed that as the reason. 

It is true that those were his stated reasons, but you also have to take into account that when an agent is negotiating through the media, you should probably take his comments with a grain of salt.

I certainly haven't made my mind up one way or the other, but given that he has previously held out while asking for a trade, I'm going to keep my mind open until he signs on the dotted line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 22, 2017, 07:34:04 PM
It is true that those were his stated reasons, but you also have to take into account that when an agent is negotiating through the media, you should probably take his comments with a grain of salt.

I certainly haven't made my mind up one way or the other, but given that he has previously held out while asking for a trade, I'm going to keep my mind open until he signs on the dotted line.

I think a lot of fences have been mended since. Purely my opinion but I think Trouba feels his a-hole agent embarrassed him last year. His agent wanted something like 10 years @7.5 mill. Chevy rightfully balked at that but his play will dictate his worth and he will get just that. Maybe even a premium for playing a position in particularly high demand.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2017, 08:50:32 PM
This is hardly making stuff up. Trouba sat out games last season asking for a trade. This isn't some rumour, it's what we all witnessed.

I hope we can resign Trouba, but I hope that Chevy has a clear understanding of Trouba's intentions (I'm sure he does) prior to the FA deadline so we can deal him if we need to.

Read Aardsy's post again and I think you'll better understand my reply to it. Trouba has since signed a contract and has played in his desired role, quite well I might add. Has he expressed dissatisfaction since then? Nope. Has he requested a trade since then? Nope. What happened a year ago isn't relevant at this point in time. He seems pretty content from what I can tell and I won't speculate on things one way or another.

Is it time to trade Trouba yet?  Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him? 

This bolded part seems to indicate something in the present. So, I asked for a credible source. I didn't accuse him of making up anything, but his initial comment seems like nothing more than him trying to stir the pot. It's pointless and unnecessary.

I too haven't heard a peep about any of this Trouba not wanting to play here or sign a long term deal stuff... There was definitely lots of talk about that last fall when he was holding out but I haven't heard anything negative since then. I'm not buying it.

Nobody is. Because there's nothing to it.

Anyway, Mason gets the start tonight in LA.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 22, 2017, 09:07:02 PM
sure hope the "fences have been mended" if they indeed were even torn.
If those were the 2 basic requests Trouba had, as reported, then my thought still was & is now ......... OR did he tell Chevy ...... he takes his skates & hits the road
That to me would yell ........ I'm hear for the short term           Count me as a Fan of Trouba's but a nervous fan.

Meanwhile ..... Trouba leads, with Kulikov, in Dmen Even Strength points .... at 6 (he only has 7 total) but has the most shots on the net of our Dmen at 48.
Time on ice is 2nd for the D at a respectable average of just under 22 minutes, with Buff at over 24.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 22, 2017, 10:09:28 PM
Is it time to trade Trouba yet?  Keep hearing that he won't sign a long term deal, he doesn't want to be here, etc... maybe its time to move on from him? 

I know, Enstrom is down, and if we traded Trouba, we're one injury away from Melchiori... which isn't a horrible thing, depending on what you get back for him. 

If you got a solid 2nd pairing LD with a good contract, a prospect and a decent pick, I think that's be pretty good...  and you eliminate the conversation "does he want to be here", which makes the team look bad... 

Where have you heard that lately?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on November 23, 2017, 12:36:13 PM
Can't imagine trading Trouba is on the table. His play this year doesn't warrant 7M + but that is subject to change. If a trade does happen... I'm sure Chevy will get everything he wants in return.  I also have no doubt Chevy would match any RFA offer should other teams try it.

FWIW... First time Jets have beaten LA in regulation in LA.  Lord only knows where this team can go if Mason plays like he did last time and Helly maintains his form.   8)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 23, 2017, 01:10:30 PM
Didn't catch the late game but watched the highlights this morning. Great bounce back after the Nashville mess!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 23, 2017, 01:13:21 PM
i didn't see any of the 3rd period - had to sleep, but it looks like the Jets played most of it with a one goal lead - not easy to do on the road vs the Kings...

Well done - keep it rolling and racking up the points!!  2 points in November count the same as 2 in Spring!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 23, 2017, 01:39:47 PM
I too conked out for the third period. Woke up at 3, checked the score, saw that we won, back to sleep.

Some interesting comments from Maurice on Trouba about training him to be playing against the top players but that last night saw that he wasn't having a great game, so bumped him to a different pairing. He hasn't been in his finest form this season, but hopefully he gets things going soon. Nice to see the second line strike again for a goal. I feel like Laine and Ehlers have better chemistry with Scheifele than Little, but how do you break up the Wheeler-Scheifele-Connor line? They are so good.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 23, 2017, 02:37:36 PM
I too conked out for the third period. Woke up at 3, checked the score, saw that we won, back to sleep.

Some interesting comments from Maurice on Trouba about training him to be playing against the top players but that last night saw that he wasn't having a great game, so bumped him to a different pairing. He hasn't been in his finest form this season, but hopefully he gets things going soon. Nice to see the second line strike again for a goal. I feel like Laine and Ehlers have better chemistry with Scheifele than Little, but how do you break up the Wheeler-Scheifele-Connor line? They are so good.

They are very good, but I wonder if they would be even better with the other guys? I mean if we did Laine-Scheif-Ehlers as our top line I bet Shceif could really ignite the euros. Then Connor-Little-Wheeler as the second line. Little and Wheeler have heaps of experience and chemistry together, and can continue mentoring young Connor.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 23, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
They are very good, but I wonder if they would be even better with the other guys? I mean if we did Laine-Scheif-Ehlers as our top line I bet Shceif could really ignite the euros. Then Connor-Little-Wheeler as the second line. Little and Wheeler have heaps of experience and chemistry together, and can continue mentoring young Connor.

I was listening to a Maurice interview where he was talking about keeping the top line together because Connor is doing so well there, and he doesn't want to do anything to disrupt that. He was open to the possibility if he needs to, but he's going to keep that as a "break-the-glass" move.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 23, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
Jacob Trouba is the bobble head they are giving away at one of the last home games this season, so Chevy knows something we don't. He's here for the longhaul.  ;D

The team and management have to treat Trouba like he is going to be a fixture here for the long haul... of course they are going to honor him as much as possible, and present a united front that he is going to be a Jet long term. 

Far from it being a sure thing, and his 2 year, $3mil per bridge deal after holding out and losing speaks volumes.  He left at least $7million over those two years on the table.  He could have easily signed a 7 year, $6.5 mil per deal...  to make that money up he'd have to sign a 5 year $7.75 mil per deal...

Will he get that?  Maybe, on the open market. 

FYI... SportsNet poll...
10% Think he stays, 66% think he gets traded this season, 6k people voting...


https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0 (https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on November 23, 2017, 04:38:38 PM
FYI... SportsNet poll...
10% Think he stays, 66% think he gets traded this season, 6k people voting...


https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0 (https://www.opinionstage.com/polls/2399142/poll?sembed=1&wid=0)



Well, this means nothing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 23, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
I was listening to a Maurice interview where he was talking about keeping the top line together because Connor is doing so well there, and he doesn't want to do anything to disrupt that. He was open to the possibility if he needs to, but he's going to keep that as a "break-the-glass" move.

I get that logic but I don't want to see Laine and Ehlers dare-I-say wasted on a line that isn't working. The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" line doesn't work here I don't think because second line is broken. I think there's a very clear divide between our top 6 and bottom 6 and most combinations within each will work. I like Connor but having him get top line minutes isn't as important as having Laine and Ehlers, our two most dynamic players, in the best possible position to produce. Like I said, I think Scheif will be better for setting them up vs. Little, and that Little and Wheeler are already a known commodity as a pair and have the vet experience to continue with Connor's success.

If we lose a few games, I think this will happen, and if we don't it will stay like this which isn't exactly a bad thing either. Who knows, maybe the second line is just in a slump and ready to explode any minute.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 23, 2017, 05:52:22 PM
Well, this means nothing.

Probably mostly leafs fans voting too, and they barely can think rationally about their own team never mind any other team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 24, 2017, 11:34:15 PM
Jets are rollin'

Fun to watch them play when they are flying around


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 25, 2017, 12:57:41 AM
Another nice tilt from a Jets prospective

Seeing Perry sulking head down on the bench after the game was pricelessg!

Hellebuck solid as ever.

Buff playing inspired, he really really wants that first goal!

Ehlers had a particularly strong game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 25, 2017, 01:21:27 AM
I think teams around the league will be happy that Chiarot dished out to Perry what he regularly does to other players. Wasn?t it his slash that broke Perreault?s wrist last year? Guy?s a loser. Third overall and continuing to steamroll other teams. So awesome!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on November 25, 2017, 05:46:56 PM
NHL Player Safety:

Winnipeg?s Ben Chiarot fined $3,763.44, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for butt-ending Anaheim?s Corey Perry.

I?m okay with that. It didn?t look like he intentionally used his stick but was rather using his glove to smack  Perry and the end of his stick was there.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 25, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
NHL Player Safety:

Winnipeg?s Ben Chiarot fined $3,763.44, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for butt-ending Anaheim?s Corey Perry.

I?m okay with that. It didn?t look like he intentionally used his stick but was rather using his glove to smack  Perry and the end of his stick was there.

I'm betting he makes that back, and more, in drinks and dinners bought for him by Perry haters...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 26, 2017, 02:46:23 AM
Hellybuck > Mason


Too many rebounds given up by Mason


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 26, 2017, 01:17:18 PM
Well, that was disappointing... 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 27, 2017, 01:32:02 PM
Mason went out with an upper body injury. Haven't seen any updates of his timeline of how long he will be out for, or even the extent of his injury.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 27, 2017, 04:56:38 PM
Mason went out with an upper body injury. Haven't seen any updates of his timeline of how long he will be out for, or even the extent of his injury.

Mike Sawatzky‏
@sawa14
 7m7 minutes ago
More
Paul Maurice says #NHLJets Steve Mason suffered a concussion Saturday and has been placed on IR. #WFP



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 27, 2017, 04:59:08 PM
Mike Sawatzky‏
@sawa14
 7m7 minutes ago
More
Paul Maurice says #NHLJets Steve Mason suffered a concussion Saturday and has been placed on IR. #WFP



Comrie time?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 27, 2017, 05:00:52 PM
Comrie time?

He's been recalled. :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 27, 2017, 06:39:37 PM
He's been recalled. :)

 8)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 28, 2017, 12:34:33 AM
Uh oh...could this be two bad games in a row??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 28, 2017, 12:40:06 AM
Off to a real bad start. Hope they can turn the momentum to their favour soon.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 28, 2017, 12:48:01 AM
Off to a real bad start. Hope they can turn the momentum to their favour soon.

lol awesome.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 28, 2017, 12:49:26 AM
Uh oh...could this be two bad games in a row??

Nope


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 28, 2017, 02:23:44 AM
Jets are pouring it on...looks good...wild losing their composure


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 28, 2017, 02:46:55 AM
Remember when we were losing 2-0?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 28, 2017, 12:43:28 PM
There are so many things the Jets are doing so much better at this year, and it's making a huge difference.




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: drahgon on November 28, 2017, 01:33:22 PM
First game of the year I attended the jets lose 7-2 to the leafs, this one was a much better outcome! Only complaint is they should've let a few more soft shots hit Hellebuyck, 2 goals on only 19 shots is going to hurt his save % lol!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 28, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Interesting stat they posted after the 2nd period ........ Jets only had a single shot block vs 11 by the Wild already...... score was 4 - 2 at that time
Game ended at 16 blocks by Wild & 8 by the Jets  ------ Domination by Jets

Personal wish ....... to see Perrault & Armia with Lowry.   Hendricks is a team player but let him play with the less gifted Copp & Tanev.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 28, 2017, 08:51:27 PM
Interesting stat they posted after the 2nd period ........ Jets only had a single shot block vs 11 by the Wild already...... score was 4 - 2 at that time
Game ended at 16 blocks by Wild & 8 by the Jets  ------ Domination by Jets

Personal wish ....... to see Perrault & Armia with Lowry.   Hendricks is a team player but let him play with the less gifted Copp & Tanev.

Not sure we want to mess up our "fourth line" after a game like that, but I agree with your proposal. I love having Matty P as a floater forward who can play like a top 6. He will ignite any line he plays on. Get him on a line with Laine somehow lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 29, 2017, 02:28:31 PM
Not sure if this belongs in the Jets thread but.....

Moose won last night 8-1.
Hutch made 47 saves, J.C. Lipon had a hatrick.
They have won 7 games in a row.
They are tied for first in the AHL.
Hutch has a .945 SV% and a 2.00 GAA this season.  :o


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 29, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
Not sure if this belongs in the Jets thread but.....

Moose won last night 8-1.
Hutch made 47 saves, J.C. Lipon had a hatrick.
They have won 7 games in a row.
They are tied for first in the AHL.
Hutch has a .945 SV% and a 2.00 GAA this season.  :o

Yep, the Moose are insanely good this year!!

Sure would be cool to have playoff Jets AND Moose this spring, eh??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on November 29, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Moose have a few vets/older players this year ......... of which Left shot Dman, 29 year old Cameron Schilling is key ..... with 17 points in 22 games & a real good +15.
Tucker Poolman has played 7 games & has an assist & is a -1. ...... Not on Active Roster at the moment ........ Anyone heard what his Injury is ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 29, 2017, 07:58:22 PM
Moose have a few vets/older players this year ......... of which Left shot Dman, 29 year old Cameron Schilling is key ..... with 17 points in 22 games & a real good +15.
Tucker Poolman has played 7 games & has an assist & is a -1. ...... Not on Active Roster at the moment ........ Anyone heard what his Injury is ?

They mentioned he had a flu a week or two ago but was still playing through it. I thought he got called up when Enstrom went down and Chiarot went in?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 29, 2017, 08:24:00 PM
Moose have a few vets/older players this year ......... of which Left shot Dman, 29 year old Cameron Schilling is key ..... with 17 points in 22 games & a real good +15.
Tucker Poolman has played 7 games & has an assist & is a -1. ...... Not on Active Roster at the moment ........ Anyone heard what his Injury is ?

He's not hurt. The Jets recalled him after Enstrom got hurt. He's with the team but not playing because they elected to start Chiarot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 30, 2017, 04:07:27 AM
Sloppy game for the Jets going to OT with the jets on the PK. 

If we can roll out of here with 2 points it will be a steal


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 30, 2017, 04:11:16 AM
Sloppy game for the Jets going to OT with the jets on the PK. 

If we can roll out of here with 2 points it will be a steal


Hahahahahah.  Avs score 30 seconds in but it's offside...no goal


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on November 30, 2017, 04:13:13 AM

Hahahahahah.  Avs score 30 seconds in but it's offside...no goal


And the robbery is stopped.  Jets lose in OT.  That too many men penalty was a killer. 


Whole team looked off...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 30, 2017, 12:54:08 PM
Not a great game by us. We are lucky to walk away with that point.

Oh well, a point in the standings is better than nothing, but I hate giving any points to fellow Centralers. Time to go home and kill the Knights.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: BomberPride on November 30, 2017, 03:01:04 PM
I'll echo the statement we were lucky to walk out of there with the point.

The goal when Helly lost his helmet was a joke.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on November 30, 2017, 03:41:32 PM
I'll echo the statement we were lucky to walk out of there with the point.

The goal when Helly lost his helmet was a joke.

Sure, no helmet is a big concern (ask Eddie Giacomin), but its not like it was an extended time, it was more like the ofside challenge timing between when the mask "came off" and the puck entered the net.  Had that puck missed the net, play would have been blown dead.  And really, Helly didn't "lose" his mask as much as a strap came loose and he actually shook it off his head.  Again, I understand his not wanting to play on with his mask loose, but he did remove it...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on November 30, 2017, 06:07:13 PM
A point on the road is never a bad thing. We get the Knights tomorrow on the 2nd leg of a back to back.  Knights in Minny tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on November 30, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
Sure, no helmet is a big concern (ask Eddie Giacomin), but its not like it was an extended time, it was more like the ofside challenge timing between when the mask "came off" and the puck entered the net.  Had that puck missed the net, play would have been blown dead.  And really, Helly didn't "lose" his mask as much as a strap came loose and he actually shook it off his head.  Again, I understand his not wanting to play on with his mask loose, but he did remove it...


He likely shook it to get it to sit properly on his head so he could see.

Can't believe the goal wasn't called off.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Stretch on December 01, 2017, 12:13:30 PM
He likely shook it to get it to sit properly on his head so he could see.

Can't believe the goal wasn't called off.

Read somewhere that the rule says something like ?if the goalie?s mask comes off the play is supposed to be blown dead immediately unless there?s an imminent scoring opportunity?. Unfortunately that seems to make this goal legit IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 01, 2017, 12:51:58 PM
Read somewhere that the rule says something like ?if the goalie?s mask comes off the play is supposed to be blown dead immediately unless there?s an imminent scoring opportunity?. Unfortunately that seems to make this goal legit IMO.

I definitely understand that they don't want goalies to panic and flick their masks off to stop a goal scoring opportunity, but that one bites. Could have been a clean 2 points against a division rival. Eh, coulda woulda shoulda.

Anyway, the Moose obliterated (and I do mean obliterated) Cleveland last night to extend their roll. I gotta get out to another game soon!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on December 01, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
I definitely understand that they don't want goalies to panic and flick their masks off to stop a goal scoring opportunity, but that one bites. Could have been a clean 2 points against a division rival. Eh, coulda woulda shoulda.

Anyway, the Moose obliterated (and I do mean obliterated) Cleveland last night to extend their roll. I gotta get out to another game soon!

7 different goal scorers :o
Hutch has made 118 saves on 121 shots his last 3 games for a .975 SV% :o


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 01, 2017, 02:27:46 PM
And the robbery is stopped.  Jets lose in OT.  That too many men penalty was a killer. 

Whole team looked off...

They were outta sorts pretty much the whole game. At least they took a loser point out of it.

As for the Avs' goal that came after Hellebuyck's mask came loose, rule 9.6 states the following:

Quote
When a goalkeeper has lost his helmet and/or face mask and his
team has control of the puck, the play shall be stopped immediately to
allow the goalkeeper the opportunity to regain his helmet and/or face
mask. When the opposing team has control of the puck, play shall
only be stopped if there is no immediate and impending scoring
opportunity.

So, it was a good goal according to the rules.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 02, 2017, 01:35:11 AM
Hendricks ties it up on a gorgeous goal. Jets needed that one!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 02, 2017, 02:03:23 AM
Hendricks ties it up on a gorgeous goal. Jets needed that one!

Definitely changed the momentum with the reversed goal and Hendricks tying score.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 02, 2017, 02:10:52 AM
From seemingly 3-1 for Vegas, to 4-2 for us.

This team is awesome.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 02, 2017, 02:19:38 AM
Big third for the Jets. Laine with 3P (1G, 2A), Connor with a beauty and Ehlers with a sick wraparound.

Gotta get this win (and hope the Kings can beat the Blues).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 02, 2017, 02:48:29 AM
Big third for the Jets. Laine with 3P (1G, 2A), Connor with a beauty and Ehlers with a sick wraparound.

Gotta get this win (and hope the Kings can beat the Blues).

The Kings smoked the Blues. We just need to hold on.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 02, 2017, 03:09:20 AM
Second best in the entire NHL...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 02, 2017, 03:57:08 AM
Awesome


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 02, 2017, 05:25:39 AM
Pinch me


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on December 02, 2017, 01:54:12 PM
Nice effort by the Jets last night when we got behind against Vegas.
I wonder why Hutchinson didn't get called up as our backup when Mason got hurt ?
In 2014/2015 he was 21-10, but tailed off the next two seasons, so I thought maybe he was done in the NHL.
However, this year he's bounced back nicely with the Moose.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid%5B%5D=96549


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 02, 2017, 03:48:05 PM
I was there last night!
It was electric
A fabulous drunken experience
Wildly entertaining game
LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 02, 2017, 05:57:22 PM
Nice effort by the Jets last night when we got behind against Vegas.
I wonder why Hutchinson didn't get called up as our backup when Mason got hurt ?
In 2014/2015 he was 21-10, but tailed off the next two seasons, so I thought maybe he was done in the NHL.
However, this year he's bounced back nicely with the Moose.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid%5B%5D=96549

He?d have to be put through waivers when he was sent down again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 02, 2017, 06:51:53 PM
He?d have to be put through waivers when he was sent down again.

Exactly. And the way he's been playing in the AHL so far this season, it'd be a shame to lose him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 02, 2017, 09:15:35 PM
Regarding Waivers ...... as Mason got injured there was to be No Waiver issue on Hutch if he came up as it was deemed to be an Emergency Call up situation.
Therefore Hutch could have moved up & then down with no claims to worry Chevy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 02, 2017, 10:31:34 PM
It is truely remarkable how awesome both the Jets and Moose are doing! Kudos to Chevy and staying with his plan. The cupboards are full but more depth always appreciate. Plus as mentioned the Moose are just killing the opposition 15-2 goal diff in there last two games! Insane!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 03, 2017, 06:09:27 PM
just browsed thru the Wpg. Sun, this Sunday, & Did Not find a single mention of the Moose's 4-0 victory, the previous night (Saturday).
This town sucks IMO with the lack of mention thru mediums on the Moose & even the Goldeyes to some extent.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on December 03, 2017, 07:17:42 PM
There?s lots of Moose coverage on Twitter... Mike McIntyre and Illegal Curve are the best in my opinion. Let?s hope the Jets keep the winning going against the Sens! Kyle Connor is out with a day-to-day injury so Mathias draws into the line up. I?ve loved Connor?s game this season so I hope he?s back in soon.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 03, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
just browsed thru the Wpg. Sun, this Sunday, & Did Not find a single mention of the Moose's 4-0 victory, the previous night (Saturday).
This town sucks IMO with the lack of mention thru mediums on the Moose & even the Goldeyes to some extent.

Are you surprised? The AHL didn't get much coverage even when it was the only hockey show in town.

And besides, the Sun is trash.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 04, 2017, 01:41:08 AM
Dominant victory tonight! Hellebuyck gets his first shutout of the season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 04, 2017, 02:09:04 AM
Seems the plan TN put in is now coming to life.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 04, 2017, 12:55:42 PM
steamroller


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 04, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Seems the plan TN put in is now coming to life.

Took some time - and no doubt longer than many had hoped - but this organization is coming together this season. Both the Jets and the Moose are making some serious noise in their respective leagues.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 04, 2017, 06:48:02 PM
I loved Chevy all along PoMo not so much but I?ll give PoMo props now. He deserves some recognition.

Even Buff has been good Buff for quite a while now, aside from the odd blip ala SJS game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 05, 2017, 12:51:15 AM
Took some time - and no doubt longer than many had hoped - but this organization is coming together this season. Both the Jets and the Moose are making some serious noise in their respective leagues.

It took longer....  but thats better. They all became a team and understand the roles they play.

The system between the 2 teams is the same. The players expect the same.

Its taken awhile for things to happen. But it looks like the idea is comming.

Lets hope this continues.......  its fun


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 05, 2017, 02:09:46 AM
It took longer....  but thats better. They all became a team and understand the roles they play.

The system between the 2 teams is the same. The players expect the same.

Its taken awhile for things to happen. But it looks like the idea is comming.

Lets hope this continues.......  its fun
amen


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 05, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Blake Wheeler named the NHL's first star of the week: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/wheeler-price-headline-nhls-three-stars-week/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/wheeler-price-headline-nhls-three-stars-week/)

2G, 8A for 10P in just 4 games. What a beauty.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 05, 2017, 11:43:22 AM
The entire organization looks like a powerhouse...both the Jets and Moose are dominating.  There is going to come a time where some tough decisions will need to be made and we wont be able to keep all this talent because of the salary cap, but that'll be good for long-term sustained success and we will just trade talented guys for prospects and draft picks.  Chevy seems to be very good at managing assets. 

Chevy's process, and Chipman's patience are finally paying off. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 05, 2017, 12:40:33 PM
It is amazing that a healthy roster does for performance of a club.

And its AHL affiliate.  When your best prospects are playing in the A instead of sitting in the pressbox of the parent team, wow.  The moose are icing a very talented squad right now, and it is showing in the standings.

 



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 05, 2017, 06:49:58 PM
The limited injuries, I quite agree, certainly has helped the talented, skilled players to mature & thrive as a team.
Chevy, his advisors & the network of scouts, do a lot of homework analysis which has been paying off in superlatives so far this year, in Moose & Jet results.

Can Chevy make some tough decisions, add & subtract the pieces necessary to help PM & his staff close the final 2/3rds & make a playoff statement ???
                STAY TUNED !!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2017, 01:40:07 AM
I expected a push-back from the Red Wings but the Jets have been pitifully bad tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 06, 2017, 02:09:20 AM
I expected a push-back from the Red Wings but the Jets have been pitifully bad tonight.

You would think all these Michigan boys would play better in front of friends and family?
Nope

Pitiful PP

I will be honest I FF most of the game

They always suck in Detroit


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 06, 2017, 02:52:51 AM
Bad bad game...put it behind them and get back to the winning.   A 5 game losing streak would do some damage - standings are very tight


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 06, 2017, 01:35:52 PM
You can't win 'em all. We have been on the other side of that for years where we were the crap team and then would host Chicago and dominate. It's how you respond to a loss and go back to winning ways immediately that matter in an 82 game season. On to Florida.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2017, 02:28:42 PM
You would think all these Michigan boys would play better in front of friends and family?
Nope

Pitiful PP

I will be honest I FF most of the game

They always suck in Detroit

They won there last season. They won there in 2014-15. They won there in 2013-14. More wins than losses in Detroit.

You can't win 'em all. We have been on the other side of that for years where we were the crap team and then would host Chicago and dominate. It's how you respond to a loss and go back to winning ways immediately that matter in an 82 game season. On to Florida.

Precisely. They faced a desperate team last night and simply weren't up to the task. Time to put it in the rear-view and focus on tomorrow's game in Sunrise.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 06, 2017, 05:13:47 PM
Interesting to note that Perrault played the least ....... only 12 shifts for 9:14.   Hendricks next at 16 shifts for 9:18.
Surely Armia & Perrault with Lowry, as a line, can't be far away.    Lowry only has 4 points playing with Copp & Tanev.
Let Copp with 6 pts. & Tanev, with 5 pts.,  play with Hendricks, at 6 pts. ......who has less than a shot per game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 06, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
They won there last season. They won there in 2014-15. They won there in 2013-14. More wins than losses in Detroit.

Precisely. They faced a desperate team last night and simply weren't up to the task. Time to put it in the rear-view and focus on tomorrow's game in Sunrise.

LOL fair enough I just wanted someone else to go look up the history there I was to lazy. Just more of a mindset playing the Wings I suppose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 06, 2017, 07:10:37 PM
LOL fair enough I just wanted someone else to go look up the history there I was to lazy. Just more of a mindset playing the Wings I suppose.

sheer brilliance...

LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 06, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
The Kulakov signing is looking pretty good...  I remember a Sabres fan tweeting "I hope you enjoy it in February when both the weather and Kulikov are -26


Not so much now...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2017, 11:29:01 PM
The Kulakov signing is looking pretty good...  I remember a Sabres fan tweeting "I hope you enjoy it in February when both the weather and Kulikov are -26

Not so much now...

Sabres fans are pretty dumb. They still think their team won the 2015 trade... LOL

I mean, the Sabres' blue line has 1 goal. The entire defense has just one goal. That's pathetic.

Kulikov is a good defenseman. He just played on a garbage team before this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 01:04:07 PM
Sabres fans are pretty dumb. They still think their team won the 2015 trade... LOL

I mean, the Sabres' blue line has 1 goal. The entire defense has just one goal. That's pathetic.

Kulikov is a good defenseman. He just played on a garbage team before this season.

We could have given Kane to them for free and we'd have won that trade.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 07, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
We could have given Kane to them for free and we'd have won that trade.

Nailed it.

Anyhoo, Comrie gets the start in net tonight vs. the Panthers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 07, 2017, 05:11:57 PM
Nailed it.

Anyhoo, Comrie gets the start in net tonight vs. the Panthers.

Wowzers. That'll be interesting.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 06:40:37 PM
Yeah I'm very surprised. Thought this would be a good game to have BuckBuck bounce back like he has all year after a loss.

I'd be saying the same if it was Mason going in...but now especially if it's Comrie! Oh well, go show 'em what you're made of!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 07, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
Yeah I'm very surprised. Thought this would be a good game to have BuckBuck bounce back like he has all year after a loss.

I'd be saying the same if it was Mason going in...but now especially if it's Comrie! Oh well, go show 'em what you're made of!

For sure, but he'll have a tall order on Saturday in Tampa Bay. I'm not opposed to giving him an extra day off. My main concern with Comrie starting is more on how the team plays in front of him. Another lazy and careless effort can't happen.

FWIW, he played pretty well in his first start last season against a pretty strong Blue Jackets team. The Panthers, at least in my opinion, don't qualify as pretty strong at the moment. I'm glad he didn't get the start against a desperate Red Wings team the other night, so this game seems like the most ideal opportunity in which to give him a start during his call-up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 07, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
Yeah I'm very surprised. Thought this would be a good game to have BuckBuck bounce back like he has all year after a loss.

I'd be saying the same if it was Mason going in...but now especially if it's Comrie! Oh well, go show 'em what you're made of!

I'm happy to see him start. I think if we had Mason available, Helle would have had a break before this point, so it's probably needed. It's great that we have such a high-caliber prospect available and that he's getting the proper time to develop, but it's good to show him what he needs to be working towards.

But it could be hit or miss when it comes to getting 2 points tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 07, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
For sure, but he'll have a tall order on Saturday in Tampa Bay. I'm not opposed to giving him an extra day off. My main concern with Comrie starting is more on how the team plays in front of him. Another lazy and careless effort can't happen.

FWIW, he played pretty well in his first start last season against a pretty strong Blue Jackets team. The Panthers, at least in my opinion, don't qualify as pretty strong at the moment. I'm glad he didn't get the start against a desperate Red Wings team the other night, so this game seems like the most ideal opportunity in which to give him a start during his call-up.

Yeah, I agree that the Panthers are a good team to test a young backup, if you gotta do it. Good point about TB Saturday. Boy am I looking forward to that game.

I'm happy to see him start. I think if we had Mason available, Helle would have had a break before this point, so it's probably needed. It's great that we have such a high-caliber prospect available and that he's getting the proper time to develop, but it's good to show him what he needs to be working towards.

But it could be hit or miss when it comes to getting 2 points tonight.

I'm just being overly sensitive about the state of Helle's mental state and our record. I'm irrationally assuming that because we lost a game we must be going on a giant downward spiral, with Hellebuyck losing complete confidence. We have seen it all too often in seasons past and I've been on eggshells all year, expecting the wheels to fall off. I have to condition myself to think differently!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 07, 2017, 08:19:15 PM
Yeah, I agree that the Panthers are a good team to test a young backup, if you gotta do it. Good point about TB Saturday. Boy am I looking forward to that game.

Ditto!

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Saturday is going to be a big game for this team. And then a week later with the back-to-back home-and-home with the Blues... Ooh, boy. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: drahgon on December 07, 2017, 08:53:55 PM
Yeah, I agree that the Panthers are a good team to test a young backup, if you gotta do it. Good point about TB Saturday. Boy am I looking forward to that game.

I'm just being overly sensitive about the state of Helle's mental state and our record. I'm irrationally assuming that because we lost a game we must be going on a giant downward spiral, with Hellebuyck losing complete confidence. We have seen it all too often in seasons past and I've been on eggshells all year, expecting the wheels to fall off. I have to condition myself to think differently!!

Also true for Bomber fans. We've been burned by false hope so many times, its hard to get behind a team when they start doing well.

The Jets have way less history here than the Bombers but I still found myself thinking "Same ol Jets" during the Detroit game... Hopefully tonight they get back on track!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 07, 2017, 11:49:21 PM
rough start for young Comrie ...... down 2-0 very early


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 08, 2017, 01:14:16 AM
rough start for young Comrie ...... down 2-0 very early

Fairly solid since though!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 08, 2017, 02:22:01 AM
Tough loss...not the time to go on a slide Jets!!  Not going to be any easier on Saturday


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 08, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Their GWG, Comrie had zero chance. And then we have like 3 chances where I absolutely couldn't believe it didn't go in, culminating with their empty netter.

Shoulda had that one.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2017, 01:29:08 PM
Their GWG, Comrie had zero chance. And then we have like 3 chances where I absolutely couldn't believe it didn't go in, culminating with their empty netter.

Shoulda had that one.

Another somewhat sloppy showing by the Jets last night, but a weird game bounces-wise. Comrie looked shaky to start but what happened to the Jets' solid defensive zone play? Did they forget to pack it for this road trip? :-\

If Chiarot gets a fine for stick-butting Perry, Trocheck should get one for what he did to Little last night. That was disgusting. And how the hell is Byfuglien the only player to get a penalty out of the scrum Huberdeau started by going after Connor?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 10, 2017, 10:31:40 PM
Tampa certainly can roll 3 pretty busy, productive lines ....... felt the Jets looked sporadic in their ability to play a high standard
.......... however they created chances, battled  & had a decent 3rd period ....... Points matter

Buff may have strained a groin & played just 16:54 & not on the bench after the incident ....... anyone hear by the grapevine if he is injured.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: DM83 on December 11, 2017, 04:58:05 AM
Smoke and mirrors.  Well it was great while it lasted.

We still have a lot of passengers.  Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?

Bryan Little is done.  He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace.  Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..

At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine.  ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??

Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..

Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.?  Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 11, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
Smoke and mirrors.  Well it was great while it lasted.

We still have a lot of passengers.  Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?

Bryan Little is done.  He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace.  Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..

At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine.  ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??

Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..

Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.?  Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!

Because of an OT loss to the best team in the league?

Let?s see how they respond tonight, eh?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 11, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
Smoke and mirrors.  Well it was great while it lasted.

We still have a lot of passengers.  Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?

Bryan Little is done.  He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace.  Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..

At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine.  ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??

Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..

Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.?  Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!

Maybe it's the beer talking Marge but you got a butt that won't quit.

They got those big chewy pretzels here merJanthfgrr $5??!!!? get outta here...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
How long has it been since they won a game?  Time to blow this thing up... fire Maurice and trade Buff...

Or maybe not... lets see how full the bandwagon is after this week...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 11, 2017, 04:36:19 PM
How long has it been since they won a game?  Time to blow this thing up... fire Maurice and trade Buff...

Or maybe not... lets see how full the bandwagon is after this week...

He is out for a couple of weeks...LBI


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 11, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
He is out for a couple of weeks...LBI

Best time to trade him... hey, we got a good haul for an injured Kane...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 12, 2017, 02:17:24 AM
Smoke and mirrors.  Well it was great while it lasted.

We still have a lot of passengers.  Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?

Bryan Little is done.  He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace.  Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..

At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine.  ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??

Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..

Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.?  Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!


What a bunch on nonsence this is.

Nothing what you say is even close. Good god man.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 12, 2017, 12:55:10 PM
How long has it been since they won a game?  Time to blow this thing up... fire Maurice and trade Buff...

Or maybe not... lets see how full the bandwagon is after this week...

Is it best to make the Stanley Cup parade through the downtown on Portage, or further out near Polo? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Realist on December 12, 2017, 07:28:27 PM
Is it best to make the Stanley Cup parade through the downtown on Portage, or further out near Polo

I hope not. To some there is only one way in and out of there!  ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 12, 2017, 09:16:19 PM
Smoke and mirrors.  Well it was great while it lasted.

We still have a lot of passengers.  Buff sucks, Chiarot is a good sixth defenceman.
Can someone tells me what Joel Armea brings to the table besides one goal every ten games...same as the rest of the bottom six?

Bryan Little is done.  He's part of the Atlamts. Cancer that plays at rec league hockey pace.  Those two kids are rotting away in the second line with him as center..

At times we show a great forechecking speed. Game, and the. We put Sheiffle, the captain in, and they couldn't get back to their own end of their life depended on it. Same with Laine.  ****** how can an MGL guy not know how to oick up a puck off the boards.??

Comfiest?,,,,,....oh my God..

Oh well another twenty six years..no wait....isn't thatthey Bombers.?  Oh well I did get to see Anders, Ulf and Bobby!

Have another glass of turpentine.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
OK, tweaking the lineup.  Is this where Chevy will earn his money, and some respect?

Can we land Tavares, and how does that mesh with Scheiffle, position and cap wise?

Is Karlson worth going after?   Is he able to fully recover, and can we fit him under the cap?

We have a crapton of good prospects right now, is it better to keep them in the pipe because we will need that RFA control on salary to manage the cap, or package them to a developing team for that one wily vet we need to push us over the top?

Trouba, Roslovic, Lemeiux, Comrie are all assets that any team would love to land, and players we can spare. 

Before anyone dumps on me for putting Trouba's name out there, I have no problem with him being a Jet forever, if he signs a long term deal.  But I don't want to lose him for nothing.  Trading him won't really hurt us, heck we're doing well with Buff / Enstrom out right now.  So if one of them gets healthy, no problem losing Trouba.  It is even less of a problem if you are getting a LH Dman back...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on December 13, 2017, 04:34:43 PM
OK, tweaking the lineup.  Is this where Chevy will earn his money, and some respect?

Can we land Tavares, and how does that mesh with Scheiffle, position and cap wise?

Is Karlson worth going after?   Is he able to fully recover, and can we fit him under the cap?

We have a crapton of good prospects right now, is it better to keep them in the pipe because we will need that RFA control on salary to manage the cap, or package them to a developing team for that one wily vet we need to push us over the top?

Trouba, Roslovic, Lemeiux, Comrie are all assets that any team would love to land, and players we can spare. 

Before anyone dumps on me for putting Trouba's name out there, I have no problem with him being a Jet forever, if he signs a long term deal.  But I don't want to lose him for nothing.  Trading him won't really hurt us, heck we're doing well with Buff / Enstrom out right now.  So if one of them gets healthy, no problem losing Trouba.  It is even less of a problem if you are getting a LH Dman back...

I'm sure bidding for Tavares would start at 9M per season.. Jets won't pay that.
Karlsson gave list to Ottawa GM of 10 teams he won't accept a trade too... bets the Jets are on the list? 
Karlsson is making 6.5M this year...... thinking 8M + would be the range - would rather offer Trouba 7M-ish as he is 4 years younger
I heard E. Kane could be used as a rental player this season -- averaging just under 1 PPG...  with the Jets looking like a contender.. can burned bridges be fixed? 

Next games are Chicago -  Blues - Blues - Predators ----  all 4 point games -  getting 2 wins out of those 4 would be a great result



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 13, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
OK, tweaking the lineup.  Is this where Chevy will earn his money, and some respect?

Can we land Tavares, and how does that mesh with Scheiffle, position and cap wise?

Is Karlson worth going after?   Is he able to fully recover, and can we fit him under the cap?

We have a crapton of good prospects right now, is it better to keep them in the pipe because we will need that RFA control on salary to manage the cap, or package them to a developing team for that one wily vet we need to push us over the top?

Trouba, Roslovic, Lemeiux, Comrie are all assets that any team would love to land, and players we can spare. 

Before anyone dumps on me for putting Trouba's name out there, I have no problem with him being a Jet forever, if he signs a long term deal.  But I don't want to lose him for nothing.  Trading him won't really hurt us, heck we're doing well with Buff / Enstrom out right now.  So if one of them gets healthy, no problem losing Trouba.  It is even less of a problem if you are getting a LH Dman back...

Why would the Jets try for Tavares? They're already a top team offensively.

How are any of those four players listed ones the team can spare? Trouba is playing top pairing minutes, Roslovic is a young depth piece with loads of upside, Lemieux will be a solid and gritty bottom 6 asset, and Comrie is another young depth piece with loads of upside. How are any of these assets expendable in your mind?

And you're wrong. Trading Trouba would definitely hurt the team unless it gets an equal piece in return.

Karlsson would be an incredible piece to acquire, but I have to think what the Senators want in return is pretty rich.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Why would the Jets try for Tavares? They're already a top team offensively.

How are any of those four players listed ones the team can spare? Trouba is playing top pairing minutes, Roslovic is a young depth piece with loads of upside, Lemieux will be a solid and gritty bottom 6 asset, and Comrie is another young depth piece with loads of upside. How are any of these assets expendable in your mind?

And you're wrong. Trading Trouba would definitely hurt the team unless it gets an equal piece in return.

Karlsson would be an incredible piece to acquire, but I have to think what the Senators want in return is pretty rich.

You do realize my contention is to improve the current roster.  I'm not talking about DP's or prospects coming back.  I'm talking one big bump up for some "spare parts".  Which is what "spare parts" are for, none of those players are helping us this year.  Its why you build depth, so that you can make a big move for a big name.

You don't think that Tavares centreing Ehlers/Laine would be an upgrade?  Little taking over for Hendricks?  That's the idea, upgrade an already potent O. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 13, 2017, 05:44:45 PM
You do realize my contention is to improve the current roster.  I'm not talking about DP's or prospects coming back.  I'm talking one big bump up for some "spare parts".  Which is what "spare parts" are for, none of those players are helping us this year.  Its why you build depth, so that you can make a big move for a big name.

You don't think that Tavares centreing Ehlers/Laine would be an upgrade?  Little taking over for Hendricks?  That's the idea, upgrade an already potent O. 

If you mean trades, we can't trade for any high end players. We are either A) On their no-trade lists or B) not on their list of approved trades, depending on the contract language.

This is why we have to build through the draft. We can't pull a LA or NY style move and trade some picks for a top rental player.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
If you mean trades, we can't trade for any high end players. We are either A) On their no-trade lists or B) not on their list of approved trades, depending on the contract language.

This is why we have to build through the draft. We can't pull a LA or NY style move and trade some picks for a top rental player.

When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list.  Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes.  It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders. 

But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here.  But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers?  Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part.  NOT.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on December 13, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list.  Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes.  It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders. 

But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here.  But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers?  Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part.  NOT.

Being on nearly every no trade list has little to do with the Jets record and a lot to do with that player having to spend an extended period of time in Winnipeg.

Edmonton drafting McDavid and looking like they'd be constant contenders last season hasn't helped them get off no trade lists. The Jets being in the Top 3 in December sure as hell won't.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 13, 2017, 06:28:24 PM
Being on nearly every no trade list has little to do with the Jets record and a lot to do with that player having to spend an extended period of time in Winnipeg.

Edmonton drafting McDavid and looking like they'd be constant contenders last season hasn't helped them get off no trade lists. The Jets being in the Top 3 in December sure as hell won't.

exactly...win a cup and players will maybe consider coming here but even then there will always be other contenders in much better places to live.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 13, 2017, 07:05:44 PM
When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list.  Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes.  It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders. 

But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here.  But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers?  Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part.  NOT.

Sorry man, there is no argument here. We are on 100% of no-trade lists. It's a reality we have to live with.

Perhaps, if we had sustained success as a Stanley Cup contender it may change for some players, but most of these lists were submitted before the year started (though that admittedly varies by team).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 13, 2017, 08:36:04 PM
You do realize my contention is to improve the current roster.  I'm not talking about DP's or prospects coming back.  I'm talking one big bump up for some "spare parts".  Which is what "spare parts" are for, none of those players are helping us this year.  Its why you build depth, so that you can make a big move for a big name.

You don't think that Tavares centreing Ehlers/Laine would be an upgrade?  Little taking over for Hendricks?  That's the idea, upgrade an already potent O. 

So, you think the team should trade for player it doesn't need. The Jets are more than fine at C and are presently third in the league in FO% (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs)). So, your contention is not only ridiculous but it's ignorant, too.

The Jets have plenty of big names: Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers... And then some underrated but important players like Little and Perreault, the former of which clearly flies under your radar. Forward depth is the least of the team's concerns right now - if you've actually been paying attention to the team.

And no, a team doesn't build depth to move a bunch of it for one player, much less for a player that doesn't address a need. What a clueless comment.

This narrative is akin to your idea of the Jets trying to get Fleury.

When we couldn't make a playoff run, sure, we were on every no trade list.  Now, when we are at the top of the rankings, with a very talented lineup and a solid coaching staff, I think that changes.  It might even change with Trouba, now that we are contenders. 

But as long as we were a sad sack team, no, no one wanted to be here.  But can you imagine Tavares being asked if he'd like to centre Laine/Ehlers?  Yeah, I can see that being a no on his part.  NOT.

More pointless conjecture. The Jets haven't proven anything yet. Let's see them win a playoff game or a series first before assuming players will suddenly eliminate Winnipeg from the no trade lists and want to play here.

Jee-zus.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 13, 2017, 10:38:09 PM
So, you think the team should trade for player it doesn't need. The Jets are more than fine at C and are presently third in the league in FO% (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs (http://puckbase.com/stats/team-faceoffs)). So, your contention is not only ridiculous but it's ignorant, too.

The Jets have plenty of big names: Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers... And then some underrated but important players like Little and Perreault, the former of which clearly flies under your radar. Forward depth is the least of the team's concerns right now - if you've actually been paying attention to the team.

And no, a team doesn't build depth to move a bunch of it for one player, much less for a player that doesn't address a need. What a clueless comment.

This narrative is akin to your idea of the Jets trying to get Fleury.

More pointless conjecture. The Jets haven't proven anything yet. Let's see them win a playoff game or a series first before assuming players will suddenly eliminate Winnipeg from the no trade lists and want to play here.

Jee-zus.

Need?  No, we don't need to improve at any position.  But you should want to get better if you can.  Hendricks has been great, an excellent signing by the team.  But if you could replace him with Taveres, why would you not? 

As to moving depth players, we have an exceptionally deep team.  Moving some of these assets to get better is what cup contenders do. 

Remember, we have guys like Appleton, de Leo, Petan, Lipon, Sgarbossa, Phillips, Melchiori...  and don't forget Vesalainen


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 14, 2017, 03:52:20 PM
#NHLJets recall defenceman Julian Melchiori from @ManitobaMoose, as team also announces Dustin Byfuglien placed on injured reserve. Winnipeg hosts Chicago tonight @bellmtsplace. #NHL

sounds like a few injuries on the go and the Jets will have to do a bit of shuffling on D...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 14, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
Need?  No, we don't need to improve at any position.  But you should want to get better if you can.  Hendricks has been great, an excellent signing by the team.  But if you could replace him with Taveres, why would you not? 

As to moving depth players, we have an exceptionally deep team.  Moving some of these assets to get better is what cup contenders do. 

Remember, we have guys like Appleton, de Leo, Petan, Lipon, Sgarbossa, Phillips, Melchiori...  and don't forget Vesalainen

Comparing Tavares and Hendricks is beyond ignorant. One's a bottom 6 grinder who can win defensive zone faceoffs and kill penalties. The other is an elite talent. From both a role and a salary standpoint, it's apples and oranges. Again: the Jets are currently third in FO% and are a top offense in the NHL.

Moving prospects to acquire a rental simply for the sake of doing so is not what contenders do.

So, no. I wouldn't trade for Tavares simply because. That doesn't make a lick of sense.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2017, 04:49:58 PM
Comparing Tavares and Hendricks is beyond ignorant. One's a bottom 6 grinder who can win defensive zone faceoffs and kill penalties. The other is an elite talent. From both a role and a salary standpoint, it's apples and oranges. Again: the Jets are currently third in FO% and are a top offense in the NHL.

Moving prospects to acquire a rental simply for the sake of doing so is not what contenders do.

So, no. I wouldn't trade for Tavares simply because. That doesn't make a lick of sense.



This.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 14, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
Comparing Tavares and Hendricks is beyond ignorant. One's a bottom 6 grinder who can win defensive zone faceoffs and kill penalties. The other is an elite talent. From both a role and a salary standpoint, it's apples and oranges. Again: the Jets are currently third in FO% and are a top offense in the NHL.

Moving prospects to acquire a rental simply for the sake of doing so is not what contenders do.

So, no. I wouldn't trade for Tavares simply because. That doesn't make a lick of sense.

If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in.  Get it?

Second line get BETTER.  Fourth line gets BETTER.  Team gets BETTER. 

But I guess good enough is good enough for you....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on December 14, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in.  Get it?

Second line get BETTER.  Fourth line gets BETTER.  Team gets BETTER. 

But I guess good enough is good enough for you....

Where does Crosby fit in?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 14, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
Where does Crosby fit in?

Where ever he wants...

But if you're going to be silly, why not ask where Toews fits...  now there's a trade you can make every day of the week...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2017, 06:27:21 PM
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in.  Get it?

Second line get BETTER.  Fourth line gets BETTER.  Team gets BETTER. 

But I guess good enough is good enough for you....


Thats not a good idea at all.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Colton on December 14, 2017, 07:03:02 PM
Where ever he wants...

But if you're going to be silly, why not ask where Toews fits...  now there's a trade you can make every day of the week...

Yeah I'm the one being silly


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 15, 2017, 02:34:36 AM
Well the Jets got schooled tonight - play a bit careless and this is what happens...3 big games coming up they should have been more ready for this one tonight. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 15, 2017, 04:00:09 AM
I'm a Tavares lover ........ it would be a dream come true if he wore our team colors ........ however it sure isn't likely

Our current crop of centres, not including Scheif, are certainly winning a few faceoffs indeed ....... but putting the puck in they are not.
Hendricks with 4 is a nice surprise at this point but Little with 5 goals & Lowry with a pathetic 3, is just not decent results.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 15, 2017, 12:51:01 PM
Crappy game. I was really excited for it, too. We always play Chicago well. Not this time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 15, 2017, 01:08:05 PM
If you put Taveres into the lineup, you move Little into the spot Hendricks is in.  Get it?

Second line get BETTER.  Fourth line gets BETTER.  Team gets BETTER. 

But I guess good enough is good enough for you....

You sure don't. So, continuing this asinine discussion with you would be foolish.

Reality always seems to elude your opinions.

Crappy game. I was really excited for it, too. We always play Chicago well. Not this time.

Glad I didn't waste my time watching last night. 3-0 after 20... Brutal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 15, 2017, 03:13:04 PM
Face off wins does not equal points on paper.  And I'm sure Tavares would kill our face off percentage too  ::) .  If the Jets coaching can get our current corps to 3rd in the league (some coaching, some using the new rules to our advantage (I guess that's coaching too)), I'm sure Tavares would be first in line to learn how to be even better... (he's at 49.6% right now)

We dominated the face offs last night.  Not really the result we were looking for at the end of the game, though.

You make your team better by having better players.  Which player is better to have in the lineup, Hendricks or Tavares?  Don't get me wrong, I love what Hendricks has brought and brings every night.  But can you imagine Laine/Ehlers/Tavares as you SECOND line?  And Brian Little centreing your fourth line?

C'mon, you have to admit that we are a better team with Tavares on it.  But if you don't think we need to get better, then I guess trading pieces that may never be used by the team for him doesn't make sense. 



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: drahgon on December 15, 2017, 03:15:35 PM
What a stinker last night, wasted a babysitting night on that?

Hopefully its only a blip and they get back to the way they have been playing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 15, 2017, 03:32:35 PM
What a stinker last night, wasted a babysitting night on that?

Hopefully its only a blip and they get back to the way they have been playing.

Yeah, this week and last has been quite the fall back down to earth. I could deal with losing the way we did to Detroit, only because they had a fire lit underneath them with a 10 goal embarrassment earlier. Losing to Florida sucked because not only are we a better team, but it was a close game and we should have maintained our lead or at least got a point. Loss to Tampa I could deal with in overtime. Winning convincingly against Van was awesome and I thought we were back on track, and then to be obliterated like that last night was the worst. Central division opponent whom we gave clean points to.

Winning both against STL would solve all of that this weekend. Winning one of them is more realistic, and losing both would feel like the sky is falling.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 15, 2017, 04:42:37 PM
Yeah, this week and last has been quite the fall back down to earth. I could deal with losing the way we did to Detroit, only because they had a fire lit underneath them with a 10 goal embarrassment earlier. Losing to Florida sucked because not only are we a better team, but it was a close game and we should have maintained our lead or at least got a point. Loss to Tampa I could deal with in overtime. Winning convincingly against Van was awesome and I thought we were back on track, and then to be obliterated like that last night was the worst. Central division opponent whom we gave clean points to.

Winning both against STL would solve all of that this weekend. Winning one of them is more realistic, and losing both would feel like the sky is falling.

I also thought the win vs. VAN on Monday indicated the team got back on track. But then last night happened.

Three points in the home-and-home with the Blues would be nice - and necessary, IMO. The Jets need to get back on track and can't afford to lose ground in either the division or the conference.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 15, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
PM shook up the lines a bit in the latter half ......... does he start Ehlers, Scheif & Wheeler together next game.
He slotted Perrault up with Little & Laine while dropping Conners to play with Hendricks & Armia.
 Go for it coach Maurice ........ anyone hear if they are skating today & if so, are these changes together prior to the Blues back to back.

St. Louis are more vulnerable with Schwartz & Pietrangelo out with injuries & Bouwmeester just placed on the IR as well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 15, 2017, 06:16:16 PM
#NHLJets HC Paul Maurice say G Steve Mason will start one of two games vs #Blues this weekend. Wouldn't say whether it would be sat or Sunday. Mason hasn't played since suffering concussion on nov 25. #WFP


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 15, 2017, 06:17:01 PM
Corsi seems to be a popular topic in the NHL circles & I will not profess to understand it yet, as I've rarely looked at the basic rules.

However, in light of that, I simply looked at Giveaway vs Takeaway stats & sheesh ........ the Jets are net Minus 78.   Vast improvement needed going forward
Noted: Armia has stolen the puck 15 times off the opponent while only giving it up carelessly a Single time ----- Terrific.
Little is at a Plus 12, Lowry at Plus 11, Tanev at Plus 10 & Scheif at a respectable Plus 7.
Wheeler is our worse forward at Minus 9, followed by Laine at a Minus 8         Dmen, as on most teams, have bad stats here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 15, 2017, 07:00:38 PM
Face off wins does not equal points on paper.  And I'm sure Tavares would kill our face off percentage too  ::) .  If the Jets coaching can get our current corps to 3rd in the league (some coaching, some using the new rules to our advantage (I guess that's coaching too)), I'm sure Tavares would be first in line to learn how to be even better... (he's at 49.6% right now)

We dominated the face offs last night.  Not really the result we were looking for at the end of the game, though.

You make your team better by having better players.  Which player is better to have in the lineup, Hendricks or Tavares?  Don't get me wrong, I love what Hendricks has brought and brings every night.  But can you imagine Laine/Ehlers/Tavares as you SECOND line?  And Brian Little centreing your fourth line?

C'mon, you have to admit that we are a better team with Tavares on it.  But if you don't think we need to get better, then I guess trading pieces that may never be used by the team for him doesn't make sense. 




What your missing is you dont want Little on your 4th line. Hes not the type of player you want there. He not a grinder and defencive type you want and need on your 4th line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 15, 2017, 08:03:50 PM

What your missing is you dont want Little on your 4th line. Hes not the type of player you want there. He not a grinder and defencive type you want and need on your 4th line.

Then put him on 3, and Lowry on 4...  or make line 3 line 4, and line 4 line 3 with Little centring it...  Little, Perrault, Tanev for line 3 is pretty nice, no?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 16, 2017, 02:10:10 AM
Then put him on 3, and Lowry on 4...  or make line 3 line 4, and line 4 line 3 with Little centring it...  Little, Perrault, Tanev for line 3 is pretty nice, no?

No

Hes not the guy you want doing that job.

Nothing is broken.... so you let it play out as its built.

Let them be and grow. Its working.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 16, 2017, 05:16:49 AM
No

Hes not the guy you want doing that job.

Nothing is broken.... so you let it play out as its built.

Let them be and grow. Its working.

Doing what job?  Scoring?

Lowry Copp Armia is a pretty strong checking line, no?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 17, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
Can't believe I watched a Jet loss & actually found satisfaction with the full effort.
Jets hustled, passed well, made plenty of shot attempts, won faceoffs, cleared rebounds, got above average goaltending ...... yet didn't win.
Hutton was the reason, IMO, that the ending was not worth 2 points for our Jets.    Same effort today & a better result should occur.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 17, 2017, 05:36:33 PM
Can't believe I watched a Jet loss & actually found satisfaction with the full effort.
Jets hustled, passed well, made plenty of shot attempts, won faceoffs, cleared rebounds, got above average goaltending ...... yet didn't win.
Hutton was the reason, IMO, that the ending was not worth 2 points for our Jets.    Same effort today & a better result should occur.

I was pretty unsatisfied. Hopefully, it turns out better tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 18, 2017, 01:56:34 PM
What a nice game last night.  After outplaying St Louis the night before and getting a loss, this was sweet.  Beating their #1 goalie soundly.  With Petrangelo back in the lineup. 

So, just making sure, the Stanley Cup parade is a go for Portage and Main area?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 18, 2017, 02:25:59 PM
What a nice game last night.  After outplaying St Louis the night before and getting a loss, this was sweet.  Beating their #1 goalie soundly.  With Petrangelo back in the lineup. 

So, just making sure, the Stanley Cup parade is a go for Portage and Main area?

Yes that's correct.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 18, 2017, 04:31:11 PM
another sound game played by the Jets ........... really justified the end result


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 18, 2017, 07:57:54 PM
Can't believe I watched a Jet loss & actually found satisfaction with the full effort.
Jets hustled, passed well, made plenty of shot attempts, won faceoffs, cleared rebounds, got above average goaltending ...... yet didn't win.
Hutton was the reason, IMO, that the ending was not worth 2 points for our Jets.    Same effort today & a better result should occur.

Two very good efforts against the Blues after an ugly loss to the Blackhawks. If only the result of Saturday's game had been more positive.

Yesterday was a near perfect game by the home side. A dominant win in every sense of the word.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Stretch on December 20, 2017, 01:29:55 PM
Heck of a win last night, but it also highlighted our need to be more careful with the puck.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 20, 2017, 01:38:41 PM
Heck of a win last night, but it also highlighted our need to be more careful with the puck.

Eh, the Predators are a top team and they'll make any team pay even over the most minimal of errors. What really irked me yesterday was how the Jets closed out the opening frame. 19-ish minutes of excellent road hockey and then a complete bed-crapping. Fortunately, they had 40 minutes to correct it.

That was a huge win last night. Getting two clean points in hostile territory against a division rival is massive.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 20, 2017, 01:48:25 PM
One of the most entertaining hockey games I have ever watched.  Truly back and forth, great saves, incredible goals, crossbars, posts, Subban being a baby, Laine getting under his skin, the light call on the Laine slash and then non calls on obvious hooks and trips. 

Rolling 4 lines and 3 d pairs with impunity, not caring about matchups, knowing every combination will be good.

And the Jets brain fart at the end of the first, and the epic battle back.  Cap it with Tanev's goal getting Rinne to bite on the wrap around and shuffleboarding it between his pads, just watching Rinne's reaction when he realized he'd been beat was incredible.  Knowing he'd had a great game, and let it slip away with one lazy moment. 

The empty netter iced it off, the barrage the Preds brought in the final minute was intense, watching every Jet on the ice putting their bodies in harms way, stopping anything from developing from the point, awesome.

A true team win, and another game proving they are among the best in the league. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 20, 2017, 02:04:11 PM
Eh, the Predators are a top team and they'll make any team pay even over the most minimal of errors. What really irked me yesterday was how the Jets closed out the opening frame. 19-ish minutes of excellent road hockey and then a complete bed-crapping. Fortunately, they had 40 minutes to correct it.

That was a huge win last night. Getting two clean points in hostile territory against a division rival is massive.

Yup. Take out the last minute of the first period and it wasn't even that close of a game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 20, 2017, 03:56:50 PM
Yup. Take out the last minute of the first period and it wasn't even that close of a game.

and the first minute of the third...some general carelessness with the puck got them in trouble and Rinne gaffed on the game winning goal...all of that said the Jets played very hard, used their speed and beat a better team on the road - can't ask for much more than that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 20, 2017, 09:01:15 PM
Firmly agree with the variety of fan comments ......... thrilling victory      Next up ----- bag & tag the Bruins.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 20, 2017, 11:25:32 PM
The Winnipeg Jets are making it clear to other teams in the NHL that forward Shawn Matthias is available in trade, according to Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet.

Matthias isn?t an offensive force, but a good depth player, with position versatility, on a two-year $4.25M deal he signed back in 2016 with Winnipeg.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 21, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
The Winnipeg Jets are making it clear to other teams in the NHL that forward Shawn Matthias is available in trade, according to Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet.

Matthias isn?t an offensive force, but a good depth player, with position versatility, on a two-year $4.25M deal he signed back in 2016 with Winnipeg.

Totally forgot about him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 21, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
Totally forgot about him.

Yeah, me too. They mentioned him on the radio the other day form some reason and I was surprised to hear he was still with the team. Just a healthy scratch.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 21, 2017, 05:26:45 PM
Totally forgot about him.

The forward depth within the organization right now is insane.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 21, 2017, 07:56:22 PM
The forward depth within the organization right now is insane.


Yup...  crazy good. And think how young we are.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 21, 2017, 09:02:25 PM
This is when you take 3 or 4 of those pieces that don't fit, and turn them into one really nice piece that does... 

You're going to lose some of these pieces sooner of later, you only have so many contracts you can carry, and every year you add new prospects, draft choices, etc.  Its good to have contract room as well as cap space. 

Bundling Mathias, Dano and a few prospects could get you a player that could crack our lineup.   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 22, 2017, 01:09:57 PM
Solid overall game last night for the road team. Hellebuyck was excellent. Too bad it had to go to the skills competition to decide the winner, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 22, 2017, 02:14:47 PM
Very entertaining game considering the low score. Lots of chances and great goaltending on both ends.

I'm happy to take the point and to get out of Boston.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on December 22, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
This is when you take 3 or 4 of those pieces that don't fit, and turn them into one really nice piece that does... 

You're going to lose some of these pieces sooner of later, you only have so many contracts you can carry, and every year you add new prospects, draft choices, etc.  Its good to have contract room as well as cap space. 

Bundling Mathias, Dano and a few prospects could get you a player that could crack our lineup.   
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Would we really want to do that? Especially with moving the prospects? I wouldn't. Move Matthias if you like, or possibly Dano, or both and get draft picks coming back. We draft well and have found some success and so therefore can double down on drafting and developing and ensuring we have a stream of stand out youth talent which is so crucial to remaining competitive these days.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 22, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
Very entertaining game considering the low score. Lots of chances and great goaltending on both ends.

I'm happy to take the point and to get out of Boston.

only caught OT and the shootout...some good chances in OT - thought we were going to bury one but didn't...couple of the shootout shots were kinda weak but with split second decisions it happens...the point is good - two were within reach though.

Haven't paid much attention to the Islanders this year...are they any good?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 22, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
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Would we really want to do that? Especially with moving the prospects? I wouldn't. Move Matthias if you like, or possibly Dano, or both and get draft picks coming back. We draft well and have found some success and so therefore can double down on drafting and developing and ensuring we have a stream of stand out youth talent which is so crucial to remaining competitive these days.

The key is to acquire a player that improves your present team.  Pretty hard, I know, with the team performing as it is now.  But the huge depth we have is actually a liability when it comes to development and new prospect acquisition. 

Will we regret trading away certain prospect?  You bet we will, every team that trades a prospect will sometimes regret it.  But if it makes the current team 1 point in the standing better over the year, that can be the difference in making the postseason, or hosting a series. 

You have to have faith that you will continue to churn out more prospects.  And use them appropriately.  When you have too many, you have to make room for new ones.  Its a great place to be in.

Looking forward, we are going to be having some cap issues soon.  There are going to be players we will not be able to sign.  Or will have to choose between. 

To that end, I'm going to get booed by saying it might be time to move Trouba.  It does not seem to me that he wants to be here.  He's not going to do or say anything to scuttle his career by saying that, but it is evident to me.  The fact that he threw away at least $6mil he may never recoup by signing a 2 year contract, hoping that he can make that up on the back end, speaks volumes.  He could easily have had a 5 yr, $6mil per deal.  Not taking that means he need to make $8mil for 3 years just to break even.  Not totally impossible, but tough.  And if he were to suffer an injury, that guaranteed money would be gone.  So, I'm not buying that he wants to be a Jet after this deal is done.

So, can you  "Kane" bundle him? Trouba, Dano and Mathais for...  can you get back a top level left handed D with a favourable contract (like Myers or Hamonic were)? 

What would you want back for Trouba?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 22, 2017, 04:22:14 PM
only caught OT and the shootout...some good chances in OT - thought we were going to bury one but didn't...couple of the shootout shots were kinda weak but with split second decisions it happens...the point is good - two were within reach though.

Haven't paid much attention to the Islanders this year...are they any good?

Also haven't seen much of the eastern teams. From the sounds of it, they were pretty hot not long ago but have been having some recent struggles. I expect the game to be a bit easier than the Bruins.

I have tickets to the home game against the Isles, last game of the year, so I hope we hurt them and they come back wanting revenge!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 22, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
Would we really want to do that? Especially with moving the prospects? I wouldn't. Move Matthias if you like, or possibly Dano, or both and get draft picks coming back. We draft well and have found some success and so therefore can double down on drafting and developing and ensuring we have a stream of stand out youth talent which is so crucial to remaining competitive these days.

Exactly right.

To that end, I'm going to get booed by saying it might be time to move Trouba.  It does not seem to me that he wants to be here.  He's not going to do or say anything to scuttle his career by saying that, but it is evident to me.  The fact that he threw away at least $6mil he may never recoup by signing a 2 year contract, hoping that he can make that up on the back end, speaks volumes.  He could easily have had a 5 yr, $6mil per deal.  Not taking that means he need to make $8mil for 3 years just to break even.  Not totally impossible, but tough.  And if he were to suffer an injury, that guaranteed money would be gone.  So, I'm not buying that he wants to be a Jet after this deal is done.

In other words, you know absolutely nothing. And that's why you should be booed.

It was never made public what the Jets actually offered Trouba last year - it was just rumour. So, the fact is you don't know what he did or didn't throw away. He signed a bridge contract and rescinded his trade request. Since then, he's played top minutes more often than not and has been a major piece of the team's defensive depth, which is exactly what he wanted prior to re-signing.

Other noteworthy nonsense from your post includes the claim the Jets' organizational depth is a liability and that looking forward the team will have cap issues soon. The first statement is flat out absurd in its erroneousness and the other is simply straight up speculative fear-mongering. But if you really do believe the Jets will have cap issues in the near future, your wanting to acquire Tavares, a player who is going to command immense money and term, is therefore short-sighted and contradictory.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 23, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
Also haven't seen much of the eastern teams. From the sounds of it, they were pretty hot not long ago but have been having some recent struggles. I expect the game to be a bit easier than the Bruins.

I have tickets to the home game against the Isles, last game of the year, so I hope we hurt them and they come back wanting revenge!

Jets are making them look pretty good so far....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 23, 2017, 07:19:12 PM
Jets are making them look pretty good so far....

Well this ones over...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 23, 2017, 07:28:42 PM
Well this ones over...

Mason isn't very good...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 23, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Mason isn't very good...

I have come to the conclusion he is a glorified Pavy
NOT GOOD at all!
Has the potential to be a dumb Cheve move.
I had others place higher ala Darling (whom I know didn?t quite make FA but I do not care, make the move) in off season back up goalies available
Errrr I would rather have Hutch as back up!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 01:25:51 PM
Former Jet, Alex Burmistrov retired form the NHL over the holidays. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2017, 01:27:22 PM
Former Jet, Alex Burmistrov retired form the NHL over the holidays. 

He might end up making more in the KHL in retirement than he was making here...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 01:50:37 PM
He might end up making more in the KHL in retirement than he was making here...
Very true.  I believe he was making around $900,000 in the NHL. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 27, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
Mason isn't very good...

He got zero help on Saturday, much like his third start when the Blue Jackets came to town. The team started off horribly and were down 2-0 not even three minutes into the game.

In his previous 5 starts, he posted a 1.6GAA and a .948SV% (FWIW).

I have come to the conclusion he is a glorified Pavy
NOT GOOD at all!
Has the potential to be a dumb Cheve move.
I had others place higher ala Darling (whom I know didn?t quite make FA but I do not care, make the move) in off season back up goalies available
Errrr I would rather have Hutch as back up!!!

Nonsense. Irrational nonsense.

And had you bothered to take a look at the stats, Darling isn't doing any better.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 02:11:53 PM
I have come to the conclusion he is a glorified Pavy
NOT GOOD at all!
Has the potential to be a dumb Cheve move.
I had others place higher ala Darling (whom I know didn?t quite make FA but I do not care, make the move) in off season back up goalies available
Errrr I would rather have Hutch as back up!!!
Darling has looked horrible so far.  I'd call him a bust. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 27, 2017, 09:20:50 PM
What's wrong with Bryan Little this year?  Is he playing through an injury? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 27, 2017, 11:24:51 PM
He got zero help on Saturday, much like his third start when the Blue Jackets came to town. The team started off horribly and were down 2-0 not even three minutes into the game.

In his previous 5 starts, he posted a 1.6GAA and a .948SV% (FWIW).

Nonsense. Irrational nonsense.

And had you bothered to take a look at the stats, Darling isn't doing any better.

Calm down nonsense I think not Mason hasn?t performedup standards if you watched the games he has been in.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on December 28, 2017, 02:51:37 AM
Always nice to beat the oilers! The standings are pretty tight so it?s good to get back in the win column. The Scheifele injury does not look good though... Could be a long term injury.  :'(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 28, 2017, 02:53:16 AM
Always nice to beat the oilers! The standings are pretty tight so it?s good to get back in the win column. The Scheifele injury does not look good though... Could be a long term injury.  :'(

Seriously??  I never watched a second of the game- what happened??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on December 28, 2017, 03:12:38 AM
He got pushed into the boards awkwardly and was in a lot of pain. Seems to be a shoulder or collar bone issue based on how he dangled his arm and other reports. Coach said it didn?t look good after the game...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on December 28, 2017, 03:27:03 AM
Really like the constant buzz the Jets applied in the 2nd & most of the 3rd.  However, it was incredible to see them survive the final Oilers 2 minute onslaught

Don't want to jump to conclusions but tend to agree it does not look good for Scheif.   Guessing Dano or Mathias better shake off the cobwebs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 28, 2017, 03:50:09 AM
Really like the constant buzz the Jets applied in the 2nd & most of the 3rd.  However, it was incredible to see them survive the final Oilers 2 minute onslaught

Don't want to jump to conclusions but tend to agree it does not look good for Scheif.   Guessing Dano or Mathias better shake off the cobwebs.

Don't want to risk them getting injured before we can trade them... bring up Roslovic ;) . 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 01:03:36 PM
Seriously??  I never watched a second of the game- what happened??
Looks like a broken collarbone to me.  Even Maurice said after that game that it doesn't look good.  My guess is he's out 6-8 weeks. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 28, 2017, 01:47:37 PM
He got pushed into the boards awkwardly and was in a lot of pain. Seems to be a shoulder or collar bone issue based on how he dangled his arm and other reports. Coach said it didn?t look good after the game...

Did someone go after the guy who pushed him?  Dirty shot?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 28, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
What's wrong with Bryan Little this year?  Is he playing through an injury? 

He had a nice goal last night in his franchise leading 710th game. He typically flies under the radar and is pretty underrated, too. He's on pace for just shy of 50 points this season.

Did someone go after the guy who pushed him?  Dirty shot?

It wasn't a dirty play. Scheifele and Davidson got tangled up close to the boards and Scheifele went down awkwardly. It didn't look dirty or malicious but it looked pretty serious.

Rumour mill seems to be either broken collarbone or separated shoulder. I doubt we see him back until mid-February. :-[


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on December 28, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
How much longer is Buff supposed to be out?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 28, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
How much longer is Buff supposed to be out?

Sounds like he could be back early in the new year. (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/byfuglien-trending-closer-to-return (http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/byfuglien-trending-closer-to-return))


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 06:28:08 PM
Looks like a broken collarbone to me.  Even Maurice said after that game that it doesn't look good.  My guess is he's out 6-8 weeks. 
And Maurice confirmed he's out 6-8 weeks with an upper body injury. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 28, 2017, 06:40:22 PM
And Maurice confirmed he's out 6-8 weeks with an upper body injury. 

That's some really bad news. :-[

http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 06:43:28 PM
That's some really bad news. :-[

http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/ (http://illegalcurve.com/2017/12/28/winnipeg-jets-injury-news-mark-scheifele-out-6-8-weeks-with-upper-body-injury/)
The good news is that the Jets have a one week break, and the all-star break during that 6-8 week timeframe, so Scheifele will only miss 16-22 games. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 28, 2017, 07:02:05 PM
No recall from the Moose, no decision whether Mathias or Dano slot in.  Wheeler to C, Perrault to RW on the first line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 28, 2017, 07:27:29 PM
Anyone know if Wheeler has ever player C before in his career? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on December 28, 2017, 08:28:01 PM
According to Maurice, Wheeler entered the NHL as a centre so he?s familiar with the role. I think we?re going to go through a bit of an up and down stretch in the next while. Not that one player determines how the team plays, but Scheifele is one of the souls of the team. Hopefully he can be around the guys a lot motivating them. Bad, bad news for sure...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2017, 11:00:25 PM
Anyone know if Wheeler has ever player C before in his career? 


I?m pretty sure he played some games at C for us in the past couple of years.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 29, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
Connor-Wheeler-Laine

Perreault-Little-Ehlers

Copp-Lowry-Tanev

Matthias-Hendricks-Armia

Morrissey-Trouba

Kulikov-Myers

Chiarot-Poolman

Very excited to see what the new top 2 lines can do. Would have loved to see Roslovic get a chance on the 4th line but I guess they were going for the known NHL quantity. Matthias was a reliable player when he was in the lineup. Maybe he can continue to create good scoring chances except capitalize on them more this time to keep our elite fourth line rolling! lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 29, 2017, 03:58:12 PM
I wonder if they rotate Matthias and Dano... showcasing them for trade purposes ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 29, 2017, 04:04:54 PM
I wonder if they rotate Matthias and Dano... showcasing them for trade purposes ;)
Matthias is on the trade block, and I heard Dano recently refused a conditioning stint with the Moose, so he might be on the move soon as well. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 29, 2017, 04:50:16 PM
Matthias is on the trade block, and I heard Dano recently refused a conditioning stint with the Moose, so he might be on the move soon as well. 

Where did you hear that? And why would he need a conditioning stint in the minors? ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 29, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
Where did you hear that? And why would he need a conditioning stint in the minors? ???
I heard it a couple weeks ago and I think it was on the radio - Jets asked him to accept a conditioning stint with the Moose and he initially accepted, but after speaking with his agent, he said no.  He'd need a conditioning stint because he hasn't played in ages. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 29, 2017, 06:11:31 PM
I heard it a couple weeks ago and I think it was on the radio - Jets asked him to accept a conditioning stint with the Moose and he initially accepted, but after speaking with his agent, he said no.  He'd need a conditioning stint because he hasn't played in ages. 

Who on that radio made the statement? I doubt it could've been a reliable source considering it was never reported elsewhere at the time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on December 29, 2017, 07:20:53 PM
Who on that radio made the statement? I doubt it could've been a reliable source considering it was never reported elsewhere at the time.
I don?t recall. Sorry. Might have been TSN1290.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 29, 2017, 07:45:26 PM
I don?t recall. Sorry. Might have been TSN1290.

No worries. Makes me wonder if it was Westwood who said it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 30, 2017, 04:10:03 AM
Another home win.  Hoping Tanev isn't hurt bad...

Loved it when Morrisey blew a blade and was trying to get to the bench and another player gave him a push...

Solid effort from Hellebuyck.  Definitely our MVP right now.

No Buff, Enstrom, Scheifele and they still beat the NYI handily, holding one of the highest scoring teams to 2 goals. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on December 30, 2017, 02:54:15 PM
Great home win. It was fun to be there!

The shot clock made it look otherwise, but Helle made some fantastic saves and the Scheif-less O showed up!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 30, 2017, 04:37:51 PM
I was lucky enough to go last night

My observations...

Wheeler was a absolute horse all night. Great night at center.

The D core all around was great while Helle was brilliant very strong game

Bit of a hangover today


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 30, 2017, 05:23:40 PM
Now the injuries are starting to pile up:

Enstrom
Buff
Sheifele
Tanev


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 30, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
Brandon Tanev out for at least a couple of weeks, per Paul Maurice. Joel Armia will take his spot on the third line with Copp and Lowry, while Marko Dano draws into the lineup for the first time since Oct. 27 (30 games) on the 4th line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on December 30, 2017, 07:46:10 PM
Maurice said Dustin Byfuglien should be back "in the next five days." Toby Enstrom another two weeks (Jan. 18) but could be earlier. #NHLJets #wfp


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on December 30, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Poolman and Chiarot have been pretty darned good... haven't really missed the play of Buff and Enstrom.  Maybe Buff's presence, but not really his play...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: PloenFan on December 31, 2017, 03:22:14 AM
According to the Moose web site, Roslovic has been called up by the Jets today.

http://moosehockey.com/news/roslovic-recall-dec3017/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 01, 2018, 01:38:34 AM
Shutout in Edmonton! 52 points in 40 games so far! Who saw that coming?? Not me, but I love it. What a ride this season is turning out to be!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 01, 2018, 02:49:51 AM
Shutout in Edmonton! 52 points in 40 games so far! Who saw that coming?? Not me, but I love it. What a ride this season is turning out to be!

Perfect road game and an awesome way to close out the 2017 calendar!

And the Jets get some sweep, sweep revenge for last season. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 01, 2018, 07:11:14 AM
Another solid effort and great play from our depth guys... good on Dano coming out of the pressbox and scorting the game winner on the first shot we had.

All this with 27.7% of our cap allocation (our 3 highest paid players) on the IR.

Wow.

Well done Chevy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 01, 2018, 05:12:13 PM
What Jet fan can't be jacked with the way the year ended.  Great effort from the 4 lines, HellB found the puck & his feet were really controlled.
The defense adapted & found their coverage & limited Oiler attempts at rebounds.

Q: with Buff returning shortly ....... does he get a spot on the 3rd pairing with Pool or Chiar .......... or does he go back with Kuli ????
Not being the coach (gee what a surprise) I would suggest PM, have some kahunas, let Buff get less regular ice time vs Colorado.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 01, 2018, 08:31:09 PM
Unbelievable to blow away Edmonton in their barn on NYE and sweep the series. Couldn't believe it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 01, 2018, 09:41:37 PM
Buff is likely back in the lineup tomorrow! I?d like to see some good old Buffy body crushing checks and maybe a dust up where he has multiple players by the jerseys :D We?ve missed his physicality and presence on the ice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 01, 2018, 10:17:06 PM
Dylan Samberg is impressing at the WJC's.  The future is bright for the Jets!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 01, 2018, 10:35:20 PM
Dylan Samberg is impressing at the WJC's.  The future is bright for the Jets!

Vesalainen is having a nice tourney, too. The depth in the organization right now is absolutely insane.

Hellebuyck named the NHL's first star of the week: https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266)

3-0-0, a shutout, 1.67 GAA, and a .952SV%... Bloody marvelous.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
Great write-up on Laine and his potential as the next great NHL sniper:

https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848 (https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848)

(https://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.956855!/fileimage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/default/travis-yost-2.JPG)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 02, 2018, 04:17:47 PM
Vesalainen is having a nice tourney, too. The depth in the organization right now is absolutely insane.

Hellebuyck named the NHL's first star of the week: https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266 (https://www.tsn.ca/jets-g-hellebuyck-named-nhl-first-star-of-the-week-1.956266)

3-0-0, a shutout, 1.67 GAA, and a .952SV%... Bloody marvelous.

 :o


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 04:53:38 PM
Great write-up on Laine and his potential as the next great NHL sniper:

https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848 (https://www.tsn.ca/laine-on-track-to-become-nhl-s-next-premier-sniper-1.956848)

(https://www.tsn.ca/polopoly_fs/1.956855!/fileimage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/default/travis-yost-2.JPG)




Thats pretty crazy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:03:06 PM
I'm scared of what Laine's next contract will look like.  I'd say the discussion starts at $10 million, unless he's willing to take a hometown discount and to stay with his best friend Ehlers. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:07:51 PM
Thats pretty crazy

Indeed. I'd imagine a Rocket Richard Trophy is in Laine's near future.

I'm scared of what Laine's next contract will look like.  I'd say the discussion starts at $10 million, unless he's willing to take a hometown discount and to stay with his best friend Ehlers. 

More than Ovechkin and Stamkos...? I find that hard to believe.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:10:04 PM
Indeed. I'd imagine a Rocket Richard Trophy is in Laine's near future.
I could see him becoming a consistent 50 goal scorer. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:13:24 PM
I could see him becoming a consistent 50 goal scorer. 

Oh, absolutely. He's practically a top line winger already.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 02, 2018, 05:18:10 PM
What's cool about Laine is that he is actually a complementary piece that wouldn't have really fit that well with the Jets 5 years ago. We drafted/developed and nurtured so many Scheifeles and Wheelers and Littles and Perreaults, as well as other skill-guys like Ehlers who have pure speed and finesse. Laine is a pure goal scorer who will absolutely be super successful because the guys we have playing around him put him in position to do what he does best.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:18:58 PM
More than Ovechkin and Stamkos...? I find that hard to believe.
Stamkos took less than market value to stay with the Lightning, and because Florida has lower state taxes.  Ovechkin is making $10 mill per season now, even though the cap hit is slightly less.  Plus those contracts were signed a while ago, especially Ovechkin's...as the cap goes up, so do salaries...just like inflation.  

If Draisaitle is getting $8.5 per season, I can't see Laine getting less than that.  


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 02, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Stamkos took less than market value to stay with the Lightning, and because Florida has lower state taxes.  Ovechkin is making $10 mill per season now, even though the cap hit is slightly less.  Plus those contracts were signed a while ago, especially Ovechkin's...as the cap goes up, so do salaries...just like inflation.  

If Draisaitle is getting $8.5 per season, I can't see Laine getting less than that.  

Yeah I agree. The market has changed recently and we are now seeing these franchise players getting 10+. However, Chevy has been successful getting guys on very fair contracts for us. I guess there's a lot that can happen between now and then that will certainly change the scenario. This includes what other players of his calibre around the league re-sign for.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 05:38:05 PM
Stamkos took less than market value to stay with the Lightning, and because Florida has lower state taxes.  Ovechkin is making $10 mill per season now, even though the cap hit is slightly less.  Plus those contracts were signed a while ago, especially Ovechkin's...as the cap goes up, so do salaries...just like inflation.  

If Draisaitle is getting $8.5 per season, I can't see Laine getting less than that.  

And like Stamkos, Laine could be willing to do the same with another young, deep team on the rise in the NHL. I'm sure Stamkos isn't losing sleep on his decision and I think his recent contract will be the most prevalent measuring stick when it comes time to negotiate a long-term deal with Laine. They're very similar players in terms of style and skill set.

As for Draisaitl, he's making more than Scheifele, Kuznetsov, and Johansen, which is ridiculous. Chiarelli overpaid for him.

8 years at $8.5-9.0M AAV is doable for the organization, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 05:53:21 PM
And like Stamkos, Laine could be willing to do the same with another young, deep team on the rise in the NHL. I'm sure Stamkos isn't losing sleep on his decision and I think his recent contract will be the most prevalent measuring stick when it comes time to negotiate a long-term deal with Laine. They're very similar players in terms of style and skill set.

As for Draisaitl, he's making more than Scheifele, Kuznetsov, and Johansen, which is ridiculous. Chiarelli overpaid for him.

8 years at $8.5-9.0M AAV is doable for the organization, IMO.
Chiarelli does come across as a bit of a boner. 

I'd be very happy with Laine at 8x8.5. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
And like Stamkos, Laine could be willing to do the same with another young, deep team on the rise in the NHL. I'm sure Stamkos isn't losing sleep on his decision and I think his recent contract will be the most prevalent measuring stick when it comes time to negotiate a long-term deal with Laine. They're very similar players in terms of style and skill set.

As for Draisaitl, he's making more than Scheifele, Kuznetsov, and Johansen, which is ridiculous. Chiarelli overpaid for him.

8 years at $8.5-9.0M AAV is doable for the organization, IMO.




This is prolly what he will get..... and he will take it.

He knows full well what our team is and has. I doubt he will want to leave. Same with Trouba IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:04:22 PM



This is prolly what he will get..... and he will take it.

He knows full well what our team is and has. I doubt he will want to leave. Same with Trouba IMO.
I think Trouba is gone. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 07:04:44 PM
Chiarelli does come across as a bit of a boner. 

I'd be very happy with Laine at 8x8.5. 

Without a doubt. Even 8 years at $9M per would be pretty good.

This is prolly what he will get..... and he will take it.

He knows full well what our team is and has. I doubt he will want to leave. Same with Trouba IMO.

I just wish we'd hear something - anything - regarding Trouba. I guess no news is good news but still, I hope Cheveldayoff can lock him up long-term. He and Morrissey are excellent together.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 02, 2018, 07:04:50 PM
If I were Laine I'd be asking for a bridge deal or something semi-short term I wanted to hedge my bets (3 or 4 year deal). The guy is 19 years old and one of the youngest guys on the ice every night. He could take 8 @ 8.5 or something which would work out okay, but in a couple years, the guy will probably be worth Ovy money. 8.5 ish million is a lot but 10 million+ is a lot more. The salary cap is only going to go up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:12:31 PM
If I were Laine I'd be asking for a bridge deal or something semi-short term I wanted to hedge my bets (3 or 4 year deal). The guy is 19 years old and one of the youngest guys on the ice every night. He could take 8 @ 8.5 or something which would work out okay, but in a couple years, the guy will probably be worth Ovy money. 8.5 ish million is a lot but 10 million+ is a lot more. The salary cap is only going to go up.
Trouba?s bridge deal is probably hurting him. He?s not having a great season so far.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 07:20:41 PM
Trouba's bridge deal is probably hurting him. He's not having a great season so far.

That could play into the Jets' hands as far as negotiating a new contract is concerned. To be honest, I expected more from him this season, at least offensively. He's been solid enough in his own end.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
That could play into the Jets' hands as far as negotiating a new contract is concerned. To be honest, I expected more from him this season, at least offensively. He's been solid enough in his own end.
Could help the Jets in contract negotiations, but could hurt the Jets in terms of Trouba's trade value. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 02, 2018, 07:34:03 PM
Trouba?s bridge deal is probably hurting him. He?s not having a great season so far.

I'm not sure about Trouba mostly because I don't know if he grades out to be one of the best defenseman in the league. I think Laine grades as the premier goal scorer in the NHL. Even if Laine never gets any better he'll still be scoring goals because of that shot of his. I think it's pretty low risk for him to take a bridge. As he matures (hard to believe he's only 19 and could still be playing in the Juniors) he'll get better on the puck and be a better all-around player. Every once and awhile he flashes the Mats Sundin look with his big frame on the puck. Expect more of that as he gets older.

Some people want to compare his stats to Ovy but keep in mind in Ovy's rookie season Ovy was 20 years old. Liane won't be 20 until April so he'll have basically played two full seasons in the NHL already. There's a giant difference between having success and 20 vs 18. What Laine has done is nothing short of incredible.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
I'm not sure about Trouba mostly because I don't know if he grades out to be one of the best defenseman in the league. I think Laine grades as the premier goal scorer in the NHL. Even if Laine never gets any better he'll still be scoring goals because of that shot of his. I think it's pretty low risk for him to take a bridge. As he matures (hard to believe he's only 19 and could still be playing in the Juniors) he'll get better on the puck and be a better all-around player. Every once and awhile he flashes the Mats Sundin look with his big frame on the puck. Expect more of that as he gets older. Some people want to compare him to Ovy but keep in mind in Ovy's rookie season Ovy was 20 years old. Liane won't be 20 until April so he'll have basically played two full seasons in the NHL already. There's a giant difference between having success and 20 vs 18. What Laine has done is nothing short of incredible.
Laine just needs to shave that beard...he looks like a potato farmer!  :D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 07:57:02 PM
Could help the Jets in contract negotiations, but could hurt the Jets in terms of Trouba's trade value

Very true. I just hope that isn't a reality the Jets have to consider and they can lock him up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
Without a doubt. Even 8 years at $9M per would be pretty good.

I just wish we'd hear something - anything - regarding Trouba. I guess no news is good news but still, I hope Cheveldayoff can lock him up long-term. He and Morrissey are excellent together.


Beginnimg of the year there was a interview with Trouba.... he said he wont talk contract during the season but thinks a deal will get done at seasons end and hes got no problem staying in the peg.

As for him playing great in his own end i agree. And him and Morrissey i agree they are pretty awesome. As for his offencive game i think its mostly because our team is different then its been. We can now roll 4 lines just about all the time.... our transition game is alot different now. All 4 lines are big and faster then they have been. Our D just needs to get the puck and make a play to the forwards and they are gone. His need to get down the ice and jump into the play isnt needed as much this year as in years past.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 08:07:45 PM

Beginnimg of the year there was a interview with Trouba.... he said he wont talk contract during the season but thinks a deal will get done at seasons end and hes got no problem staying in the peg.

As for him playing great in his own end i agree. And him and Morrissey i agree they are pretty awesome. As for his offencive game i think its mostly because our team is different then its been. We can now roll 4 lines just about all the time.... our transition game is alot different now. All 4 lines are big and faster then they have been. Our D just needs to get the puck and make a play to the forwards and they are gone. His need to get down the ice and jump into the play isnt needed as much this year as in years past.
But that's what agents and GMs use in contract negotiations...it's all about the comparables, which are largely based on points production.  I'd like to see Trouba sign long-term, but I'm not convinced he will - I think he wants to play in the US. Those pre-season comments could have just been said to kill any possible distraction. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 08:18:25 PM
But that's what agents and GMs use in contract negotiations...it's all about the comparables, which are largely based on points production.  I'd like to see Trouba sign long-term, but I'm not convinced he will - I think he wants to play in the US. Those pre-season comments could have just been said to kill any possible distraction. 

In a way thats true.... but is he scores 20 goals and ends the year at -30 thats not good either.

He may want to play in the US.....Butwhat if we move him or want to move him to a crap team? Or a team he has to play his offside? We wont move him to a winning team or a team he can play the side he wants. And there is nothing to say he will be signed by a winning team or a team he can play where he wants.

Hes on a pretty good young team that has potential to be very good for a very long time. Hes playing the side he wants and getting the min he wants.

Jus my 2 cents on it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 08:22:36 PM
In a way thats true.... but is he scores 20 goals and ends the year at -30 thats not good either.

He may want to play in the US.....Butwhat if we move him or want to move him to a crap team? Or a team he has to play his offside? We wont move him to a winning team or a team he can play the side he wants. And there is nothing to say he will be signed by a winning team or a team he can play where he wants.

Hes on a pretty good young team that has potential to be very good for a very long time. Hes playing the side he wants and getting the min he wants.

Jus my 2 cents on it.
Right now he doesn't have a no-trade clause so we can trade him anywhere.  Having said that, no team is going to trade for him without some type of commitment that he is willing to sign with them long-term.  At least that's how we'd get the most in return, versus a one year rental. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 08:32:25 PM
Right now he doesn't have a no-trade clause so we can trade him anywhere.  Having said that, no team is going to trade for him without some type of commitment that he is willing to sign with them long-term.  At least that's how we'd get the most in return, versus a one year rental. 



Yup.... thats my point.

Same if he hits the open market....  nothing says he will get a long term deal for the money he wants and can play the side he wants and get the min he wants.

We can pretty much give him 3 of the 4 things he wants.

Good young team that will be good for years n years....... hes playing the side he wants.... hes getting the min he wants.

We arnt in the US   and we wont give him a massive payday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 02, 2018, 08:57:14 PM


Yup.... thats my point.

Same if he hits the open market....  nothing says he will get a long term deal for the money he wants and can play the side he wants and get the min he wants.

We can pretty much give him 3 of the 4 things he wants.

Good young team that will be good for years n years....... hes playing the side he wants.... hes getting the min he wants.

We arnt in the US   and we wont give him a massive payday.
so 3 of 5

🙂


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
so 3 of 5

🙂

haha   yes 3 of 5....  hit the wrong **** key


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 09:37:50 PM
haha   yes 3 of 5....  hit the wrong **** key
And if you're Trouba, why not go for 5 out of 5? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 10:35:58 PM
And if you're Trouba, why not go for 5 out of 5? 


He will never get it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 10:39:05 PM

He will never get it.
1. Minutes
2. Long-term contract
3. Right side
4. Money he wants
5. US team

Those 5 items don?t seem all that difficult. Please explain why you don?t think he could get all 5.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 10:46:47 PM
1. Minutes
2. Long-term contract
3. Right side
4. Money he wants
5. US team

Those 5 items don?t seem all that difficult. Please explain why you don?t think he could get all 5.

Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.

Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 10:57:51 PM
Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.

Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.
Pretty sure credible sources reported it on social media like some of the TSN talking heads. But even if they didn?t, were just having a discussion here.  Where there?s smoke there?s fire...may or may not be true.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 11:01:50 PM
Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.

Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.



All This.


I did explain it.

First if we do trade him he has no say in the matter. He goes. We could trade him to some crap US team with the right side full.

If he hits FA....  think he will get the rest?  A good team willing to pay him huge and give him the side he wants and the min?

I dont think Trouba has put himself in any place to demand all this. Hes got a good gig here and id have to think he knows that.



Sry 84 after All this...  the rest of my post was ment for gbill


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2018, 11:16:31 PM
Pretty sure credible sources reported it on social media like some of the TSN talking heads. But even if they didn?t, were just having a discussion here.  Where there?s smoke there?s fire...may or may not be true.

I remember credible sources  after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/)
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382 (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382)
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue)

I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:21:05 PM
I remember credible sources  after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/)
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382 (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382)
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue)

I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.
I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:24:55 PM
I remember credible sources  after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/)
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382 (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382)
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue)

I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 11:32:06 PM
I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).



Im with 84 on this....

Sometime ppl read so much crap on the net its hard to remember whos said what.

I dont believe that was a issue. He wants right side top line and he has it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:32:48 PM


Im with 84 on this....

Sometime ppl read so much crap on the net its hard to remember whos said what.

I dont believe that was a issue. He wants right side top line and he has it.
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 02, 2018, 11:37:51 PM
Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays



From 2016?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 02, 2018, 11:39:01 PM

From 2016?
Correct. That was the discussion about when he sat out last season. Only a little over a gear ago.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 12:01:33 AM
I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).

Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.

Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays

Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.

More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 03, 2018, 12:53:35 AM
Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.

Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.

More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.




Well said.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 03, 2018, 03:51:27 AM
Snake bit in OT once again.  Perhaps buff had too much ice time in OT??  Lucky to get a point in that one.  Jets played hard couldn't get the bounces.  Helly had a great game especially in the 3rd



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 03, 2018, 05:21:40 AM
Trouba is probably after $10mil/yr.  If someone is willing to pay him that, they will give him the minutes and the right side of the bed. 

I'm kind of thinking we should hold on to him through his RFA years and hope someone signs him to a $10mil offer sheet.  Probably the best return we'd get for him...  4 first rounders. 

Even if its for $8mil, we still get 2 firsts a second and a third.  Decent return.

If no one wants to pony that up before his bridge deal ends, then wait for the offer sheets, and if nothing comes, sign him to another bridge deal and then trade him.

Our D depth is pretty good, and getting better.  I'd much rather sign Morrisey to a max contract length deal at $6-7 mil  than give Trouba the $8mil+ it is going to take for him to recoup the money he left on the table with the bridge deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 11:44:23 AM
Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.

Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.

More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.
We can agree to disagree.  Dreger is as credible as they come and he doesn't just put stuff out there for no reason.  Proof will likely come this summer when Trouba either decides to re-sign or not. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
Snake bit in OT once again.  Perhaps buff had too much ice time in OT??  Lucky to get a point in that one.  Jets played hard couldn't get the bounces.  Helly had a great game especially in the 3rd

OT is definitely not a strength of this team. Fortunately, it's a different format come playoff time. And for whatever reason, the Jets always seem to lose in Denver. Ah, well... Just take the point and go. Wheeler and Hellebuyck were monsters last night.

Trouba is probably after $10mil/yr.

Based on what...? What a silly claim. We have absolutely no idea what Trouba is after. And no GM in his right mind would pay him $10M per year.

The rest of your post isn't even worthy of acknowledgement, much less a response. Your ongoing vilification narrative of Jacob Trouba is just strange.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
Trouba isn't getting $10 million per year and I doubt that's what he's looking for.  Based on his play this season, I'm guessing his market is in the $6 million per season.  He would probably get 6-7 years if he wanted as term. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 01:37:34 PM
Trouba isn't getting $10 million per year and I doubt that's what he's looking for.  Based on his play this season, I'm guessing his market is in the $6 million per season.  He would probably get 6-7 years if he wanted as term. 

Precisely. Well said. Trouba is clearly confident in his abilities as a defenseman but he is not a delusional idiot. Remember: money wasn't his concern when he chose to sit out. For anyone to think he'd ask for a million more per year than the highest paid blueliner in the NHL (PK Subban - http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/2018/cap-hit/defenseman/ (http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/2018/cap-hit/defenseman/)) just smacks of utter ignorance.

I see no reason why Cheveldayoff wouldn't negotiate in good faith and give him a fair and reasonable contract when the time comes. He knows the worth of Jacob Trouba better than any armchair GM would.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 03, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
Trouba isn't getting $10 million per year and I doubt that's what he's looking for.  Based on his play this season, I'm guessing his market is in the $6 million per season.  He would probably get 6-7 years if he wanted as term. 

Word was that he had a $6mil 8 yr deal on the table he turned it down.  If that's true, he spent $6million dollars for the right to negotiate again next year.  Six million to get more control over where he plays.  $6,000,000.00 to have a better option at playing 30 other places.

OT is definitely not a strength of this team. Fortunately, it's a different format come playoff time. And for whatever reason, the Jets always seem to lose in Denver. Ah, well... Just take the point and go. Wheeler and Hellebuyck were monsters last night.

Based on what...? What a silly claim. We have absolutely no idea what Trouba is after. And no GM in his right mind would pay him $10M per year.

The rest of your post isn't even worthy of acknowledgement, much less a response. Your ongoing vilification narrative of Jacob Trouba is just strange.

If he wanted to be a Jet, he would have signed a long term deal.  Instead, he left more money than most of us will see in our lifetimes on the table.  And he held out, not saying we make the playoffs if he's in the lineup to start the year, but it may have been a lot closer.

Scheifele, Ehlers, Little... all signed for long term, 55 and 27 for $6 mil'ish deals, and both of them I'd say are more important players on this roster than Trouba. 

Not begrudging Trouba his right to seek the maximum contract he can, or his right to choose where he plays (withing the confines of the CBA).  But I don't have to embrace him as a Jet, and am free to "vilify" his actions towards my team.     

It almost feels like to me that he's is going to end up being our Matt Duschene.  And that wasn't a healthy thing.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 06:22:36 PM
Word was that he had a $6mil 8 yr deal on the table he turned it down.  If that's true, he spent $6million dollars for the right to negotiate again next year.  Six million to get more control over where he plays.  $6,000,000.00 to have a better option at playing 30 other places.

That was rumoured and never substantiated, either by his camp or by the Jets. So, try again.

If he wanted to be a Jet, he would have signed a long term deal.  Instead, he left more money than most of us will see in our lifetimes on the table.  And he held out, not saying we make the playoffs if he's in the lineup to start the year, but it may have been a lot closer.

Scheifele, Ehlers, Little... all signed for long term, 55 and 27 for $6 mil'ish deals, and both of them I'd say are more important players on this roster than Trouba. 

Not begrudging Trouba his right to seek the maximum contract he can, or his right to choose where he plays (withing the confines of the CBA).  But I don't have to embrace him as a Jet, and am free to "vilify" his actions towards my team.     

It almost feels like to me that he's is going to end up being our Matt Duschene.  And that wasn't a healthy thing.

Patently false. PK Subban signed a bridge deal with the Canadiens in Jan. 2013 and then negotiated a long-term deal in Aug. 2014. He wasn't traded until You have no idea how a bridge deal works or why they're even an option for young RFAs.

In one breath, you say his presence would've helped the Jets' playoff chances early in the season, but then proceed to say he's less important than other players. ???

Despite the fact the issues were resolved ages ago, you fixate on them to justify your sad, pathetic bias towards him, to the point you erroneously compare him to a self-centered prima donna like Matt Duchene. And then pull the  free to do what I want because it's my team" card. You're the first one on this forum to bring up empty seats at Jets games. How pitifully transparent.

Ask a guy like Mark Scheifele what he thinks of Trouba, one of his best friends since the two were drafted. Or Andrew Copp, a childhood friend who's known Trouba since they were 10 years old (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/trouba-and-copp-the-michigan-connection/c-879448 (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/trouba-and-copp-the-michigan-connection/c-879448)).

Get a clue and spare us all from these painfully oblivious comments rife with what ifs and spin.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 06:40:32 PM
That was rumoured and never substantiated, either by his camp or by the Jets. So, try again.
Wow you sure aren't one for "non-official" statements.  You do realize that there's a lot that happens without being officially being announced by a team, player or agent, right?  Guys like Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger and legit and very credible. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 03, 2018, 06:55:13 PM
Whoop there it is blue_gold_84 on another posting tyrade!

Must be that time of year lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 07:18:02 PM
Wow you sure aren't one for "non-official" statements.  You do realize that there's a lot that happens without being officially being announced by a team, player or agent, right?  Guys like Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger and legit and very credible. 

Should I be...? Speculation is fun and all but I'll stick with facts over unsubstantiated reports and rumours on Twitter. Reports during that time had the Jets offering him a 6-year deal, a 7-year deal, and a 8-year deal, as well as widely varying amounts of money. It was also reported back then had another team given Trouba an offer sheet, the Jets would've matched it. There were also reports saying multiple teams were interested in trading for him (BOS, DET, NYR, TOR, ARI, EDM), but nothing regarding what any team was willing to trade. That's a lot of inconsistency, so what's to be believed? What's to be gained by accepting "non-official" statements from those not affiliated with the organization?

And again, I never said McKenzie or Dreger weren't legit or credible. It's their job to dig for information and speculation around the league, and both do an excellent job of that. They look at all the angles and report everything equally, which is why they're legit and credible. But they never pass off that information as fact until they can confirm it with a respective GM or the like.
Take this article from McKenzie back on Oct. 31/2016 to see what I mean: https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587 (https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587)

Anyone who follows the Jets closely knows how Cheveldayoff operates, anyway. He plays his cards as close to the vest as any GM in the NHL, which only further fuels the speculative fires on social media. Add Trouba's agent to the mix, who operates in a similar fashion, and that's good for a raging rumour wildfire we saw back in late summer and early fall of 2016.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 03, 2018, 07:43:30 PM
I think you're both wrong and that we don't know anything  :)

I have no idea what's up with Trouba, and I've flopped sides several times. Not sure if there's any substance to what he says, or what pundits are squawking on about. This is going to have to be a situation we see play out, and I think one side is going to be right/wrong in the most black/white sense of the term.

I want to believe Trouba wants to sign here and the reasons for it make lots of sense, but the skeptic in me also think the rumour mill may have truth to it too.

 \_(ツ)_/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 08:01:58 PM
Should I be...? Speculation is fun and all but I'll stick with facts over unsubstantiated reports and rumours on Twitter. Reports during that time had the Jets offering him a 6-year deal, a 7-year deal, and a 8-year deal, as well as widely varying amounts of money. It was also reported back then had another team given Trouba an offer sheet, the Jets would've matched it. There were also reports saying multiple teams were interested in trading for him (BOS, DET, NYR, TOR, ARI, EDM), but nothing regarding what any team was willing to trade. That's a lot of inconsistency, so what's to be believed? What's to be gained by accepting "non-official" statements from those not affiliated with the organization?

And again, I never said McKenzie or Dreger weren't legit or credible. It's their job to dig for information and speculation around the league, and both do an excellent job of that. They look at all the angles and report everything equally, which is why they're legit and credible. But they never pass off that information as fact until they can confirm it with a respective GM or the like.
Take this article from McKenzie back on Oct. 31/2016 to see what I mean: https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587 (https://www.tsn.ca/trouba-really-only-has-two-choices-1.596587)

Anyone who follows the Jets closely knows how Cheveldayoff operates, anyway. He plays his cards as close to the vest as any GM in the NHL, which only further fuels the speculative fires on social media. Add Trouba's agent to the mix, who operates in a similar fashion, and that's good for a raging rumour wildfire we saw back in late summer and early fall of 2016.
The official party line from Chevy and Evander Kane's agent was that he never requested to be traded from the Jets.  Yet after he was traded, it was revealed that he had requested a trade two years earlier.  Trouba may or may not want to play in Canada, but I rarely believe the official statements.  And I believe that "where there smoke, there's fire". 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 03, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
The official party line from Chevy and Evander Kane's agent was that he never requested to be traded from the Jets.  Yet after he was traded, it was revealed that he had requested a trade two years earlier.  Trouba may or may not want to play in Canada, but I rarely believe the official statements.  And I believe that "where there smoke, there's fire". 

There's no parallel to be made between Kane and Trouba. Kane was a locker room cancer more often than not as a Jet and it was a case of attitude and personality, not role or opportunity with the team. Kane was immature, arrogant, and rubbed his teammates the wrong way with his antics off the ice. I don't think it's reasonable to compare that situation to what happened with Trouba.

And sure, where there's smoke, there's fire - something we saw during Kane's time in Winnipeg every off-season. But the same can't be said for Trouba and there has been no smoke since he signed his bridge deal and rescinded his trade request back in Nov. 2016. He's simply focused on being the best player he can be: http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc (http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 03, 2018, 09:23:55 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me he was traded and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a long-term deal. I think it's about 50-50 and will probably come down to how the Jets want to spend their SMS dollars more so than anything from the Trouba camp. I think he'd sign the right deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 09:31:24 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me he was traded and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a long-term deal. I think it's about 50-50 and will probably come down to how the Jets want to spend their SMS dollars more so than anything from the Trouba camp. I think he'd sign the right deal.
Agreed, I have no idea what will happen.  I'm just going by what credible sources previously reported, but things can always change. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 03, 2018, 09:36:04 PM
There's no parallel to be made between Kane and Trouba. Kane was a locker room cancer more often than not as a Jet and it was a case of attitude and personality, not role or opportunity with the team. Kane was immature, arrogant, and rubbed his teammates the wrong way with his antics off the ice. I don't think it's reasonable to compare that situation to what happened with Trouba.

And sure, where there's smoke, there's fire - something we saw during Kane's time in Winnipeg every off-season. But the same can't be said for Trouba and there has been no smoke since he signed his bridge deal and rescinded his trade request back in Nov. 2016. He's simply focused on being the best player he can be: http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc (http://winnipegsun.com/2017/09/15/trouba-just-wants-to-play/wcm/83b375f0-e0df-49e6-aefd-82da6c2bf4bc)
I'm not comparing the two situations.  I'm making the point that you can't always believe the official statements from players, agents and GMs. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 03, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
How many players have "rescinded" a trade request, only to be traded shortly thereafter?  Hard to stuff that genie back into the bottle.  Hamonic is a prime example.  After his family situation resolved itself, he was happy to stay on the Island, and then zoom... he's off to Calgary.

"We have a lot of depth on the blue line," Islanders general manager Garth Snow said. "It's going to give some of our younger D an opportunity to get some playing time, and we're really confident in that position moving forward. This was a situation that we felt we could capitalize and bring in some assets. Whether we use those in the draft or use them as a currency in a future player transaction, it's a good luxury for our organization to have."

Hamonic, who grew up in the Winnipeg area, had requested a trade to a Western Canadian team prior to the 2015-16 season for personal reasons. He rescinded that request after the season, when the Islanders won a playoff round for the first time since 1993.

Snow wouldn't comment on whether the trade was related to Hamonic's request last season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 05, 2018, 04:25:24 PM
Would love to pound Kane and the Sabres tonight!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 05, 2018, 04:45:06 PM
Would love to pound Kane and the Sabres tonight!!!

would love to see clean wins in at least 3 of the next 5 before the week long break

Buff/SJS/Buff/Chi/Minn

Sweep would be great but winning both against the sabres and then 2 of the Sharks, Hawks and Wild would be OK with me


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 05, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
Maurice said today there's no surgery required for Scheifele and that he looking like a quick healer. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 05, 2018, 05:20:39 PM
would love to see clean wins in at least 3 of the next 5 before the week long break

Buff/SJS/Buff/Chi/Minn

Sweep would be great but winning both against the sabres and then 2 of the Sharks, Hawks and Wild would be OK with me

How quickly expectations change!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 05, 2018, 05:21:19 PM
Maurice said today there's no surgery required for Scheifele and that he looking like a quick healer. 

that's good news...i guess if it is a separated shoulder or small break it's just time needed...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 05, 2018, 05:22:55 PM
Question for you guys: when Scheifele returns, would you keep Wheeler at centre or move him back to winger?

With the depth we have at winder, keeping Wheeler at centre might not be a bad idea.  Could create some scary depth moving Lowry down to the 4th line centre.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 05, 2018, 05:37:04 PM
Question for you guys: when Scheifele returns, would you keep Wheeler at centre or move him back to winger?

With the depth we have at winder, keeping Wheeler at centre might not be a bad idea.  Could create some scary depth moving Lowry down to the 4th line centre.

Prob move him back.   Really depends on how the team does during this time. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 05, 2018, 05:49:13 PM
Important faceoffs need to be taken by Scheif ....... however Wheels certainly looks even more prominent roaming at centre than at wing, in these early stages.
Am not a big fan of the Hendricks team leadership magic/image ......... sure he's vocal on the bench & Mathias & Dano got there 1st season goal of late
but ......... I believe in the leaders before he came ...... so out of the lineup if Little, Lowry, Wheels & Scheif are at center.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 05, 2018, 09:52:17 PM
that's good news...i guess if it is a separated shoulder or small break it's just time needed...
Maurice also said Scheifele will start lifting weights on Jan 15 and sounds like he could be out only 4 weeks. That?s two weeks less that the initial prognosis of 6-8 weeks.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2018, 10:47:26 PM
Nice win against the sharks today.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 07, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
Nice win against the sharks today.

The beat goes on...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2018, 11:50:51 PM
The beat goes on...



Forsure.....   they looked big, stronge and fast today. It looks like they are starting to look like they arnt trying to keep up with the bigger faster teams anymore. The others are starting to have to keep up with them.

Rolling 4 lines all the time and getting scoring from them is so important.

Liane and Wheels both had point scoring streaks broken in this game but we win 4-1. Wheels was a goal scoring not points. I think he got an asst today.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 07, 2018, 11:57:16 PM


Forsure.....   they looked big, stronge and fast today. It looks like they are starting to look like they arnt trying to keep up with the bigger faster teams anymore. The others are starting to have to keep up with them.

Rolling 4 lines all the time and getting scoring from them is so important.

Liane and Wheels both had point scoring streaks broken in this game but we win 4-1. Wheels was a goal scoring not points. I think he got an asst today.

Yep, there was a time not long ago where we relied 100% on LLW. Couldn't be more different now. When you're saying, "wow, Matt Hendricks sure had a great game", something new is happening here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 08, 2018, 04:09:15 AM
Connor and Liane bot sat on the bench alot in the third...  Connor seemed to be squeezing the stick pretty hard today.  Could Roslovic being in the lineup have something to do with that?

Good win, and Hellebuyck was awesome again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 08, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
Nice win against the sharks today.

Another impressive win in which the Jets showcase their depth. Hendricks' goal was sick, Perreault continues to roll, and Hellebuyck was once again stout between the pipes. Confidence is as high as I've ever seen it with this team.

BellMTS Place is not friendly to the visitors this season.

Connor and Liane bot sat on the bench alot in the third...  Connor seemed to be squeezing the stick pretty hard today.  Could Roslovic being in the lineup have something to do with that?

No.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 08, 2018, 01:35:20 PM
Connor and Liane bot sat on the bench alot in the third...  Connor seemed to be squeezing the stick pretty hard today.  Could Roslovic being in the lineup have something to do with that?

Good win, and Hellebuyck was awesome again.



Whats Roslovic in the line up have anything to do with Liane or Conner?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 08, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
Whats Roslovic in the line up have anything to do with Liane or Conner?

Nothing. It's just Aardsy reading into... nothing.

I'm sure he already thinks Connor wants to be traded now that Roslovic stole his thunder.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 08, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
Nothing. It's just Aardsy reading into... nothing.

I'm sure he already thinks Connor wants to be traded now that Roslovic stole his thunder.


LOL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 08, 2018, 08:24:12 PM
Dano got 4:28 of ice time last night & 4:13 vs the Sabres   Roslovic got just 7:57 of time last night   Hendricks at 10:38 (usual time spent on PK)
Mathias got more time, 15:16 vs Sharks (mainly due to benching of Laine & Connor) otherwise a mere 6:10 vs the Sabres while Hendricks came in at 9:19.
Last 2 games is certainly not rolling with 4 lines

Nice to see PM cut Buff's time back to 17:53 & last nights 18:48.    IMO our Dmen are efficient most times & it does not include when Buff hangs out for well over 23 minutes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 08, 2018, 09:31:07 PM
Buff was playing like he was stoned in that Shark game. Terrible pinch allowing a break away short handed, dumb dumb hooking call to put us down 2men only to be scored on shortly there after and I counted him wandering to the offensive zone caring less about his position no less than 3 times.

I have concluded he is a selfish player period. I say cut his minutes back even more until the message gets through if it ever will...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 08, 2018, 09:43:11 PM
Laine and Connor were both benched late in the game.  I was at the game and I noticed Laine in particular was floating around a lot. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 09, 2018, 02:52:29 AM
Buff was playing like he was stoned in that Shark game. Terrible pinch allowing a break away short handed, dumb dumb hooking call to put us down 2men only to be scored on shortly there after and I counted him wandering to the offensive zone caring less about his position no less than 3 times.

I have concluded he is a selfish player period. I say cut his minutes back even more until the message gets through if it ever will...



You conclouded that everything was garbage and should be tossed out long ago.

Seems that was wrong.

When your 4th line wins you the game and you up as we were you sit Liane and Conner .... pretty much ur first 2 lines.


its called taking advantage of having 4 lines


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 09, 2018, 02:58:20 AM
We sat players because we could.

We didnt need Liane or Conner at this point in the game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 02:06:53 PM
We sat players because we could.

We didnt need Liane or Conner at this point in the game.

Maurice called them out after the game (although not by name, it was obvious who he was referring to). 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 09, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
Meh, sitting out two young players still learning to play 200' late in a game where a lead had to be maintained is hardly newsworthy, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 09, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
Maurice called them out after the game (although not by name, it was obvious who he was referring to). 


I never seen that....  ill have a look to see what he says.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 09, 2018, 04:27:33 PM
Meh, sitting out two young players still learning to play 200' late in a game where a lead had to be maintained is hardly newsworthy, IMO.



This.

If we were down or tied then ya i would question it but we wernt. Liane and Conner wont bring their A game every game yet. So IMO you play the guys that bring a more consistant 200 foot game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 05:12:07 PM

I never seen that....  ill have a look to see what he says.
Yep, there was lots of talk about it on TSN1290 on the post game show. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 09, 2018, 06:15:49 PM
Mason in net tonight...

Go Mason Go!!

Need to win this road game - We are a better team than Buffalo - even with Mason in net


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 09, 2018, 06:22:42 PM
Mason in net tonight...

Go Mason Go!!

Need to win this road game - We are a better team than Buffalo - even with Mason in net

Hope we can pull out a win for the poor guy. He's had a few really well played games when our scoring seems to lose power.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 09, 2018, 07:04:01 PM
Mason in net tonight...

Go Mason Go!!

Need to win this road game - We are a better team than Buffalo - even with Mason in net
Mason has not been good this season.  Hope he has a good one tonight! 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 09, 2018, 07:10:18 PM
Good game to start Mason in IMO. Hope we can play great in front of him and not keep him too busy so we can leave with 2 points and a backup goalie with some regained confidence.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 09, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Mason has not been good this season.  Hope he has a good one tonight! 

The play in front has not helped his cause much, especially in the four games vs. TOR*, @ CGY*, @ SJS, and @ NYI. In his last five starts, however, he's posted a 2.20 GAA and a .922SV%, which would indicate he's doing his job.

For whatever reason, the Jets seem to play a more careless and lazy game when he's in net. Hopefully, they show up tonight. They can't afford to give away points to bottom feeders.

*take away these two horrendous games, and his season stats sit at 2.25GAA with a .919SV%


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 09, 2018, 11:33:45 PM
The play in front has not helped his cause much, especially in the four games vs. TOR*, @ CGY*, @ SJS, and @ NYI. In his last five starts, however, he's posted a 2.20 GAA and a .922SV%, which would indicate he's doing his job.

For whatever reason, the Jets seem to play a more careless and lazy game when he's in net. Hopefully, they show up tonight. They can't afford to give away points to bottom feeders.

*take away these two horrendous games, and his season stats sit at 2.25GAA with a .919SV%

Exactly this. I feel like Mason has been hung out to dry during some of his games. He?s played well lately and I?m fine with him going in for games. Hopefully he gets another win tonight. Time to crush the sabres.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 10, 2018, 12:45:50 AM
Jets are big and fast.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 01:15:46 AM
Exactly this. I feel like Mason has been hung out to dry during some of his games. He?s played well lately and I?m fine with him going in for games. Hopefully he gets another win tonight. Time to crush the sabres.

This game isn't exactly an exception tonight. Two PPGs allowed and then a weird bounce off the back board. Fortunately, the Jets are on fire offensively tonight.

Just gotta get the win. Mason is doing his part.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 01:40:14 AM
This game isn't exactly an exception tonight. Two PPGs allowed and then a weird bounce off the back board. Fortunately, the Jets are on fire offensively tonight.

Just gotta get the win. Mason is doing his part.

Hate giving up 4 goals to the sabres.  Great we scored 7 though!!  Winning the ones we should!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 01:41:13 AM
A dicey third but the Jets hold on and get the sweep.

The Jets are 5-0-1 since losing Scheifele. :o


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 10, 2018, 02:06:12 AM
A dicey third but the Jets hold on and get the sweep.

The Jets are 5-0-1 since losing Scheifele. :o



Bigger and faster


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 01:11:41 PM
Hate giving up 4 goals to the sabres.  Great we scored 7 though!!  Winning the ones we should!!

Finally should've been 6-2 had the boys been able to play cleaner and tighter late in the game. 6-4 had me nervous, especially with the momentum entirely on the Sabres' side.

But a win's a win! Onto Chicago. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 10, 2018, 01:23:06 PM
I don't blame Mason or the D on those 4 goals. When you pot that many in the net, it's hard for any team to fend off the furry of a really, really pissed off team. Buffalo has a great roster and can play hockey, despite their awful record. They remind me of us about 2 years ago, where we could look like could really play top notch, but get buried early and never really fight back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 10, 2018, 01:25:13 PM
My vote is we go with Mason Friday night and Helle Saturday night.

Let Mason ride a bit of confidence and momentum, and reward him by giving him 2 in a row. Gives Helle a bit of extra rest because man have we worked him lately.

Thoughts? Agree, disagree?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 10, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
My vote is we go with Mason Friday night and Helle Saturday night.

Let Mason ride a bit of confidence and momentum, and reward him by giving him 2 in a row. Gives Helle a bit of extra rest because man have we worked him lately.

Thoughts? Agree, disagree?
Helle has an amazing record versus Minnesota so I think he gets that game on Saturday.  That would mean Mason plays Friday.  So I agree with you. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
My vote is we go with Mason Friday night and Helle Saturday night.

Let Mason ride a bit of confidence and momentum, and reward him by giving him 2 in a row. Gives Helle a bit of extra rest because man have we worked him lately.

Thoughts? Agree, disagree?

Agreed on all points. Hellebuyck always shines vs. the Wild. Mason played well last night and I think he earned another shot. The Jets just can't step off the gas late in the game, though. The Blackhawks are a considerably better team than the Sabres.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 10, 2018, 01:55:17 PM
Helle has an amazing record versus Minnesota so I think he gets that game on Saturday.  That would mean Mason plays Friday.  So I agree with you. 

Is it an afternoon game on Sat?

I wouldn't put it past Maurice to start Helle two in a row. So I usually expect him to start the first game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 10, 2018, 01:57:03 PM
Helle has an amazing record versus Minnesota so I think he gets that game on Saturday.  That would mean Mason plays Friday.  So I agree with you. 

True, but on the other hand, Mason is 8-12-3 career against Chicago and 8-6-1 against the Wild.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 10, 2018, 02:18:21 PM
Is it an afternoon game on Sat?

I wouldn't put it past Maurice to start Helle two in a row. So I usually expect him to start the first game.
Game on Saturday starts at 6:00pm. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 02:34:34 PM
Is it an afternoon game on Sat?

I wouldn't put it past Maurice to start Helle two in a row. So I usually expect him to start the first game.

they have a week rest after these next two - I wouldn't be surprised to see Helly start both...either way we can win both.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 10, 2018, 03:53:23 PM
they have a week rest after these next two - I wouldn't be surprised to see Helly start both...either way we can win both.

Yeah. I think Mason got in this past game just in case Helle looks rough on Friday. But if he starts on Fruday, and looks good, I can easily see PoMo going back-to-back with him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 10, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
Yeah. I think Mason got in this past game just in case Helle looks rough on Friday. But if he starts on Fruday, and looks good, I can easily see PoMo going back-to-back with him.
Me to PoMo back to back with Helle likely. The reason Mason went yesterday. I'd start Mason Friday though if it were me. Helle needs his rest though bigger rest breaks are up coming for the jets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 10, 2018, 06:01:57 PM
For what it's worth, I think I'd play Helle in Chicago and go back to Mason in Minny.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 10, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
Congrats to wheeler and hellybuck for making the all-star team!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 11:00:21 PM
Congrats to wheeler and hellybuck for making the all-star team!!!

Could've been three had Scheifele not been injured. But this is still great news! Both have carried the Jets this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 11, 2018, 08:39:16 AM
Congrats to wheeler and hellybuck for making the all-star team!!!
X2

Both we deserved

Go Jets Go Vs Hawks and Wild

4 points would put the firmly in first place in the central heading into there break.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 11, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
Could've been three had Scheifele not been injured. But this is still great news! Both have carried the Jets this season.

If 55 is healthy, I don't think 26 gets the nod.  Not that they don't both deserve it, but its rare getting 3 p;layers on the allstar team...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 11, 2018, 02:25:53 PM
If 55 is healthy, I don't think 26 gets the nod.  Not that they don't both deserve it, but its rare getting 3 p;layers on the allstar team...

The Blackhawks had that just last season (amid considerable controversy) and they were fighting for top spot in the Central, just as the Jets are now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 11, 2018, 02:29:43 PM
The Blackhawks had that just last season (amid considerable controversy) and they were fighting for top spot in the Central, just as the Jets are now.

I think the "controversy" part is key. The Blackhawks get a lot of love, and even on the radio they were saying if Crawford was healthy he'd be in instead of Helle. I feel like if the tables were turned and the Blackhawks were in first and the Jets were a bubble wildcard team, we would be getting our token single nomination and that would be it. I guess that's probably a consequence of the business side of it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 11, 2018, 04:43:10 PM
I think the "controversy" part is key. The Blackhawks get a lot of love, and even on the radio they were saying if Crawford was healthy he'd be in instead of Helle. I feel like if the tables were turned and the Blackhawks were in first and the Jets were a bubble wildcard team, we would be getting our token single nomination and that would be it. I guess that's probably a consequence of the business side of it.

I mean, there's controversy every year as far as ASG selections go. Every fanbase always ends up in arms over a perceived snub or a selection of a player not on their team. Unfortunately, the new format means every team has at least one player selected (which is silly, IMO), so it's inevitable there will be snubs for what seem like obvious choices.

The Blackhawks do get a lot of love, which is strange this season considering how mortal they look. Then again, it's just the ASG and has no bearing on anything. Might as well just have fun with it and enjoy for it what it is.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 11, 2018, 07:32:35 PM
If 55 is healthy, I don't think 26 gets the nod.  Not that they don't both deserve it, but its rare getting 3 p;layers on the allstar team...

Probably but I don't think it would have been right. For some reason, Wheeler doesn't get a lot of respect but he's been head and shoulders our best and most consistent player all year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 11, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
Maurice announced that Helle is starting tomorrow versus Chicago. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on January 11, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
Maurice announced that Helle is starting tomorrow versus Chicago. 

Good Call..... if we beat the Hawks I say let Mason play Minne.... if we lose to the Hawks... let Helly go back to back.

In a perfect world we'd let call up Hutch and let him go up against the Chicago... career 4-1-1 vs Hawks with .961SV and 2 shutouts... (yes I know.. waivers etc)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 11, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
Good Call..... if we beat the Hawks I say let Mason play Minne.... if we lose to the Hawks... let Helly go back to back.

In a perfect world we'd let call up Hutch and let him go up against the Chicago... career 4-1-1 vs Hawks with .961SV and 2 shutouts... (yes I know.. waivers etc)
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets.  Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 11, 2018, 08:37:12 PM
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets.  Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender. 
touche


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 11, 2018, 08:51:55 PM
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets.  Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender. 

He wasn't last year but the AHL is no joke and sometimes it takes goalies awhile. He could certainly be a late bloomer.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 11, 2018, 08:53:56 PM
I'm of the mind that everyone sucked last year- both our goalies, and team D. It's gotten so much better this year. I feel like we gave up on Hutch and that he is capable of being a good NHL backup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: JMT21 on January 12, 2018, 12:28:33 PM
In a perfect world Hutch stays with the Moose and is never called up to the Jets.  Hutch isn't an NHL calibre goaltender. 

NHL calibre against the Hawks
AHL vs everyone else  ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 12, 2018, 01:32:08 PM
He wasn't last year but the AHL is no joke and sometimes it takes goalies awhile. He could certainly be a late bloomer.

Perhaps. He sure seems to have found his game at the AHL level, though. Maybe Cheveldayoff can get something for him at the trade deadline. I can't see him being here beyond this season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: TrueBlue75 on January 12, 2018, 02:57:00 PM
Perhaps. He sure seems to have found his game at the AHL level, though. Maybe Cheveldayoff can get something for him at the trade deadline. I can't see him being here beyond this season.

I too wonder if he will be moved before the trade deadline. One reason that he MAY re-sign here and stay with the Moose is that his future wife is rooted here with her business and family. But he may want to get another crack at an NHL roster which likely won't happen here.

It's going to be tough not having any Jets games to watch for a week after Saturday's game....They may drop out of the overall top 10 during that time as other teams play out their games in hand. We should stay in the top 3 of the central division though. Win tonight and tomorrow, and the chance of being pushed down the standings lessens. Go Jets go!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 12, 2018, 06:46:47 PM
I want blood after what happened last time we played Chicago.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 12, 2018, 07:24:37 PM
I want blood after what happened last time we played Chicago.
💉me to👹

Kick some Chitown bum

I?d love too se Quenvilles head explode in a fury rage!!!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 12, 2018, 10:29:16 PM
Hutch is coming up to the big leagues again!!


Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson from the Manitoba Moose. The Jets also announced that they have placed forward Adam Lowry on injured reserve retroactive to Jan. 5.

Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17.



Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.

Michael Hutchinson
Goalie
Born Mar 2 1990 -- Barrie, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots R


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 12, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
Hutch is coming up to the big leagues again!!


Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson from the Manitoba Moose. The Jets also announced that they have placed forward Adam Lowry on injured reserve retroactive to Jan. 5.

Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17.



Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.

Michael Hutchinson
Goalie
Born Mar 2 1990 -- Barrie, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots R

OK, why?  Is Mason injured?  Bringing up Hutch makes no sense, as he will have to clear waivers to return.  Unless the team has been trying to trade his $1m+ salary away with no takers, and now wants to see if someone will claim him... or are they going to try the Hutch/Helly combo again, and unload Mason?

Or...


Brian Munz @BrianMunzTSN

For those wondering, Mason is not feeling well so Hutchinson will back up Hellebuyck tonight for #NHLJets vs #NHLBlackhawks.


So, as an emergency callup, he's not subject to waivers heading back, right?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 12, 2018, 10:49:34 PM
OK, why?  Is Mason injured?  Bringing up Hutch makes no sense, as he will have to clear waivers to return.  Unless the team has been trying to trade his $1m+ salary away with no takers, and now wants to see if someone will claim him... or are they going to try the Hutch/Helly combo again, and unload Mason?

Or...


Brian Munz @BrianMunzTSN

For those wondering, Mason is not feeling well so Hutchinson will back up Hellebuyck tonight for #NHLJets vs #NHLBlackhawks.


So, as an emergency callup, he's not subject to waivers heading back, right?
Correct. Hutch is not subject to waivers because it?s an emergency call up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 12, 2018, 11:36:03 PM
Correct. Hutch is not subject to waivers because it?s an emergency call up.
Correct

Energy graces.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 13, 2018, 12:23:42 AM
Hutch is coming up to the big leagues again!!


Winnipeg, MB - The Winnipeg Jets announced today that they have recalled goaltender Michael Hutchinson from the Manitoba Moose. The Jets also announced that they have placed forward Adam Lowry on injured reserve retroactive to Jan. 5.

Hutchinson, 27, has a 14-2-4 record with the Moose this season and he leads the AHL with a .942 save percentage, while his 1.94 goals-against average ranks third in the league. Hutchinson is tied for third among AHL goalies with 14 wins. Hutchinson was named AHL Goaltender of the Month for both November and December as he helped the Moose to a 16-game point streak (15-0-1) from Nov. 15-Dec. 22/17.



Hutchinson was drafted by the Boston Bruins in the third round (77th overall) in the 2008 NHL Draft and was signed as a free agent by the Jets on July 19/13. The Barrie, Ontario native has played 99 games for Winnipeg during the last four seasons and he has a 41-38-11 record with three shutouts, a 2.63 GAA, and a .910 SV%.

Michael Hutchinson
Goalie
Born Mar 2 1990 -- Barrie, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots R

Good for him, though I hate gutting he Moose right now .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 13, 2018, 01:44:23 AM
Good for him, though I hate gutting he Moose right now .

Good opportunity for Phillips, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 13, 2018, 02:10:39 AM
Well, this game got pretty ugly in a hurry.

Jets just aren't looking sharp tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 13, 2018, 11:00:06 PM
Hard to knock the effort vs the Hawks.
Hawks almost looked like they were the road team. Without Panarin & Hossa the BH's are playing in a somewhat less skilled manner.
Glass was & had to be, extremely good to awesome ....... cuz the momentum the Jets got going & the chances created sure had me jumping in anticipation of more goals.

Tonight should be again very tough to gain an inch & great chances may be rare .......... GO JETS GO   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 13, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
Not a good opening frame. Slow, lazy, undisciplined... :-\


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 14, 2018, 12:41:48 AM
Not a good opening frame. Slow, lazy, undisciplined... :-\

Ya not really playing to well


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 14, 2018, 01:29:19 AM
Kids looking at days off.

I think its ok.  Young guys that have played hard.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 14, 2018, 02:29:34 PM
Even a guy like Matthieu Perrault looked like lost his mojo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: gbill2004 on January 14, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
Even a guy like Matthieu Perrault looked like lost his mojo
I think they were thinking more about their plans for the bye week, and less about the game at hand. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 14, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
I think they were thinking more about their plans for the bye week, and less about the game at hand. 

Reminded me a lot of the game vs. the Islanders going into the Christmas break. No focus on the game at hand and they paid dearly for it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 15, 2018, 07:09:32 PM
Reminded me a lot of the game vs. the Islanders going into the Christmas break. No focus on the game at hand and they paid dearly for it.
mmm great point I agree 100%

They all seemed off base.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: drahgon on January 15, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
For sure their minds were elsewhere already. I know I have a hard time concentrating at work in the days leading up to a vacation too.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 15, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
For sure their minds were elsewhere already. I know I have a hard time concentrating at work in the days leading up to a vacation too.
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