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Title: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 04:25:21 PM
game delay in NY.....grrrrrrrrrrr >:(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 26, 2014, 04:40:13 PM
game delay in NY.....grrrrrrrrrrr >:(
haha


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 04:43:37 PM
haha

not funny!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 26, 2014, 04:50:31 PM
not funny!
it sure as he'll is!

Look outside we are aloud to laugh all we bloody want fruity!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Wow....Game should be canceled due to Jerseys super ugly unies.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
Wow....Game should be canceled due to Jerseys super ugly unies.

there retro.....Lou doesnt believe in designing a dozen different uniforms like most NHL teams

wanna see really ugly unis, see the Ducks from last night


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
there retro.....Lou doesnt believe in designing a dozen different uniforms like most NHL teams

wanna see really ugly unis, see the Ducks from last night

Ya they were bad to.  Retro or not...they are some kinda ugly.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Ya they were bad to.  Retro or not...they are some kinda ugly.

meh...there not that bad...just green instead of black


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 26, 2014, 05:20:34 PM
I actually had to stop watching the LA/Ducks game because the uni's bothered me so much.  Almost reminded me of Rollerball ( the newer one).  Yeuch.

Watched Buff's goal again, Phaneuf's wicked two hander, breaking his stick over Buff's hands as he shot, just terrible.  Buss got him to commit wide, and when he couldn't cover Buff as he cut back in, he wound up and gave a nasty axe chop.  If he hand't busted his stick, I might not have noticed, but man...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
meh...there not that bad...just green instead of black

LOL

Im going to guess that they changed the green to black because the green and red together is horrible.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
LOL

Im going to guess that they changed the green to black because the green and red together is horrible.

christmas!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
christmas!!

haha    They just need a lil tinsel.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
haha    They just need a lil tinsel.

the silver from all of there stanley cup rings is the tinsel  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Jagr is still magic


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 06:09:02 PM
the silver from all of there stanley cup rings is the tinsel  :P



How many players are still on the team that got rings?   ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 06:11:58 PM
Jagr is still magic

Yup..... What really surprises me more then anything about him is how long hes been playing at a pretty high level. I never expected him to be a guy to play this long for some reason.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Yup..... What really surprises me more then anything about him is how long hes been playing at a pretty high level. I never expected him to be a guy to play this long for some reason.

his play has not dropped off much....hes really strong on the puck...crazy because he also spent 3 seasons in the KHL lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
wasnt expecting so many goals


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
wasnt expecting so many goals

Pretty good game.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 26, 2014, 07:02:25 PM
meh...there not that bad...just green instead of black
i remember them being cooler there not there just plain ugly.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 26, 2014, 07:04:26 PM
mean while tis is a jets thread not a bloody NYR NJD thread!!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 07:11:17 PM
Its hockey...deal with it


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on January 29, 2014, 10:11:26 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=442477

well that solves that problem

in a few years they will change their names to the seattle coyotes tho :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Zipp on February 01, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
Lol at the tweet from the sabres official twitter account :

Game's over. If you want to know the final score, you can find it on the Internet somewhere. #Sabres


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on February 01, 2014, 11:00:13 PM
Lol at the tweet from the sabres official twitter account :

Game's over. If you want to know the final score, you can find it on the Internet somewhere. #Sabres

LOL. 7-1 colorado. Atleast the buffalo twitter guys have a sense of humor.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
Lol at the tweet from the sabres official twitter account :

Game's over. If you want to know the final score, you can find it on the Internet somewhere. #Sabres

haha


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
We hope the name 'Arizona' will encourage more fans from all over the state, not just the valley, to embrace and support our team

this is such stupid thinking


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on February 02, 2014, 03:03:55 PM
We hope the name 'Arizona' will encourage more fans from all over the state, not just the valley, to embrace and support our team

this is such stupid thinking

Isn't that type of thinking the reason our AHL team was the Manitoba Moose and the Jets were almost called Manitoba.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
Isn't that type of thinking the reason our AHL team was the Manitoba Moose and the Jets were almost called Manitoba.

I doubt the Jets were ever going to be called Manitoba.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 03:39:24 PM
Isn't that type of thinking the reason our AHL team was the Manitoba Moose and the Jets were almost called Manitoba.

ya....and its stupid thinking


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 03:45:20 PM
ya....and its stupid thinking

Im not so sure its stupid thinking. Why do you think its stupid?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 03:50:56 PM
Im not so sure its stupid thinking. Why do you think its stupid?

to think that some person, 200 or 300 miles away from glendale is now going to run out and buy a Coyotes jersey because they changed the name from Phoenix to Arizona just doesnt seem like reasonable thinking to me....

do you think someone in Thompson is refusing to support the jets because there called Winnipeg instead of Manitoba?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
to think that some person, 200 or 300 miles away from glendale is now going to run out and buy a Coyotes jersey because they changed the name from Phoenix to Arizona just doesnt seem like reasonable thinking to me....

do you think someone in Thompson is refusing to support the jets because there called Winnipeg instead of Manitoba?

Fair enuff.

I cant compare it to up here because i think it a whole different thing. People here are nuts over hockey so they will buy whatever and come from wherever to watch.

Will people come from all over to watch the yotes ... i really have no idea..  but i wouldnt call it stupid thinking on their part.

They are trying to do whatever they can to get fans... so i cant call it stupid thinking.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
Fair enuff.

I cant compare it to up here because i think it a whole different thing. People here are nuts over hockey so they will buy whatever and come from wherever to watch.

Will people come from all over to watch the yotes ... i really have no idea..  but i wouldnt call it stupid thinking on their part.

They are trying to do whatever they can to get fans... so i cant call it stupid thinking.

moving a hockey team out of a desert is the smartest thing they can do


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
moving a hockey team out of a desert is the smartest thing they can do

Now that i can agree with.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2014, 08:32:14 PM
We hope the name 'Arizona' will encourage more fans from all over the state, not just the valley, to embrace and support our team

this is such stupid thinking

I agree. That doesn't seem like a sound business plan at all. The Coyotes have struggled to attract fans since they moved to Phoenix. Changing a name won't suddenly fix that problem. There is simply not a viable market for hockey in the desert.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on February 04, 2014, 08:08:55 AM
I agree. That doesn't seem like a sound business plan at all. The Coyotes have struggled to attract fans since they moved to Phoenix. Changing a name won't suddenly fix that problem. There is simply not a viable market for hockey in the desert.

I agree, the name is irrelevant, if people dont care, then people dont care.

and in arizona, people dont go there to watch hockey, they go there to get away from hockey really and to play golf.

Its just not a good market, to be honest, if it was, well... someone would have made 5 cents off of it by now and also.

This is a way for that group to tell the NHL they tried everything they could, even changed the name and still cant make a nickle. That team is so moving in a couple seasons, seattle get ready, they are coming your way soon.

people can talk quebec all they want or toronto... not happening, if those places happen it will be VIA expansion for sure... cuz thats big big money for the owners and the players would get none of it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 04, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
I agree, the name is irrelevant, if people dont care, then people dont care.

and in arizona, people dont go there to watch hockey, they go there to get away from hockey really and to play golf.

Its just not a good market, to be honest, if it was, well... someone would have made 5 cents off of it by now and also.

This is a way for that group to tell the NHL they tried everything they could, even changed the name and still cant make a nickle. That team is so moving in a couple seasons, seattle get ready, they are coming your way soon.

people can talk quebec all they want or toronto... not happening, if those places happen it will be VIA expansion for sure... cuz thats big big money for the owners and the players would get none of it.


I sure hope there is no expansion before they get the teams they have now that are struggling on more solid ground. There are a few teams that need to be moved first and then they can think of expanding.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on February 04, 2014, 06:13:54 PM
I sure hope there is no expansion before they get the teams they have now that are struggling on more solid ground. There are a few teams that need to be moved first and then they can think of expanding.

phoenix and  floria definitely come to mind.

florida is already in the montreal toronto ottawa division so one would think that maybe if a team was to move to quebec/souther ontario that florida would be the no brainer.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on February 07, 2014, 06:11:46 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=443206

wow. Thats some crazy scary stuff. Best of luck to Kris Letang.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2014, 06:30:11 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=443206

wow. Thats some crazy scary stuff. Best of luck to Kris Letang.

That is beyond scary. ****... :-[

Wishing him a speedy recovery.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on February 07, 2014, 06:39:55 PM
That is beyond scary. ****... :-[

Wishing him a speedy recovery.

Guess things like this just proves it can happen to anyone. elite athletes in great condition and young people at that too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 01, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
From TSN:

Ryan Miller and Steve Ott have been traded to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a first-round draft pick in 2015 and a third-round draft pick in 2016.
Rest of story at this link: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444922 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444922)

Also from TSN, because of the trade:

Ryan Vinz is playing backup. Ryan Vinz is paid to be the Director of Technology.

Ryan Vinz is living the dream...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1656070_10152424691661055_834882102_n.jpg)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Zipp on March 01, 2014, 02:02:29 AM
Wouldn't be pleasant to be traded from St. Louis to buffalo. I think the Blues will go deep in the playoffs...the sabres - not so much, golf course for them...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 01, 2014, 06:04:37 AM
Wouldn't be pleasant to be traded from St. Louis to buffalo. I think the Blues will go deep in the playoffs...the sabres - not so much, golf course for them...

What's bad about golf?  I just got a new mashie and niblick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 01, 2014, 06:45:15 AM
What's bad about golf?  I just got a new mashie and niblick.

This is whats bad about golf


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on March 01, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
Martin Brodeur stepped into the visitors' locker room at the Coliseum on Friday afternoon and, if it's too much to call his mood somber, he was certainly grimly realistic about the fact Saturday afternoon might his final game as a Devil.

With his name being thrown around in trade talks, the sure-to-be Hall of Fame goal-tender understands the only NHL franchise he has ever known over his 20-year-career is in a position to improve itself by moving him before Wednesday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.


http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/as-trade-rumors-swirl-saturday-could-be-martys-last-devils-start/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 01, 2014, 02:44:19 PM
Martin Brodeur stepped into the visitors' locker room at the Coliseum on Friday afternoon and, if it's too much to call his mood somber, he was certainly grimly realistic about the fact Saturday afternoon might his final game as a Devil.

With his name being thrown around in trade talks, the sure-to-be Hall of Fame goal-tender understands the only NHL franchise he has ever known over his 20-year-career is in a position to improve itself by moving him before Wednesday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.


http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/as-trade-rumors-swirl-saturday-could-be-martys-last-devils-start/
:'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 01, 2014, 06:02:56 PM
Martin Brodeur stepped into the visitors' locker room at the Coliseum on Friday afternoon and, if it's too much to call his mood somber, he was certainly grimly realistic about the fact Saturday afternoon might his final game as a Devil.

With his name being thrown around in trade talks, the sure-to-be Hall of Fame goal-tender understands the only NHL franchise he has ever known over his 20-year-career is in a position to improve itself by moving him before Wednesday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.


http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/as-trade-rumors-swirl-saturday-could-be-martys-last-devils-start/

That's crazy... I expected him to retire as a Devil.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 01, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
He will retire a devil one way or another. He will sign a one day contract if he is traded and retire in the off season.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 02, 2014, 03:06:08 PM
he probably wont be traded.....or retire


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
no one other than the Angry one really cares.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 02, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
no one other than the Angry one really cares.

not entirely true


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2014, 08:51:48 PM
not entirely true
:D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
Rumors a swirling lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 04, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
Rumors a swirling lol
I've read Brodeur to Minny is basically done, they're just letting him play one last home game in Jersey.

I don't really understand why he would leave. He's not going to be the starter in Minny and they're certainly not a Cup contender. He could be one of the few stars who stayed with one team for his entire career. Now his career will end as a backup on a different team after being traded for, presumably, not much of anything.

edit: Never mind, Bryz just got traded to the Wild...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
I've read Brodeur to Minny is basically done, they're just letting him play one last home game in Jersey.

I don't really understand why he would leave. He's not going to be the starter in Minny and they're certainly not a Cup contender. He could be one of the few stars who stayed with one team for his entire career. Now his career will end as a backup on a different team after being traded for, presumably, not much of anything.

edit: Never mind, Bryz just got traded to the Wild...

HE might start for them tho, harding is out with ms complications, backstrom aint that great, keumper is a rookie really. Its a good depth move plus his son plays hockey in minnesota, means marty is close to his kid. Doesnt mean much cuz he will retire after but, Minnesota has a good team, i wouldnt completely count them out.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 06:13:53 PM
mike weaver, 5'9 d man to montreal for 5th round pic

robidas(from dallas) will go to anaheim soon (another d man)

dustin penner has been traded to washington

Jets wont do a thing.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
scratch those brodeur to minny rumors

edmonton sent bryzgalov to minny for a 4th rd pick in 2014 and then traded for fasth from anaheim for a 5th rd pick in 2014 and a 3rd rd pick in 2015

Edmonton now has fasth and scrivens in net.

Bryz is a member of the wild.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445235


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 04, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Holy trades, Batman!

Luongo back the Panthers... Crazy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
markstrom is one of the pieces head to the canucks, rumor is mathias might be the other.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
More stuff going on then i thought.

Penner moving kinda shocked me.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2014, 09:18:22 PM
What the hell are Hustler and Lawless talking about with Tyler Kennedy, Adam Burish, and some Sheppard guy?

Did the Jets make a trade? I missed half there discussion.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
What the hell are Hustler and Lawless talking about with Tyler Kennedy, Adam Burish, and some Sheppard guy?

Did the Jets make a trade? I missed half there discussion.

nope, dont think so.

H and L tend to talk about a lot of things that dont make sense.

Rumor is setogucci to san jose tho. Those guys listed are all florida players, perhaps they were speculating on who was going to vancouver b4 it was confirmed to be markstrom and shawn matthias.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2014, 09:24:43 PM
nope, dont think so.

H and L tend to talk about a lot of things that dont make sense.

Rumor is setogucci to san jose tho. Those guys listed are all florida players, perhaps they were speculating on who was going to vancouver b4 it was confirmed to be markstrom and shawn matthias.
RIIIGHT!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 09:31:14 PM
wrong.

those guys are all members of the san jose sharks

probably speculating on what they will get back from san jose in return for setogucci.

Tells you, he aint worth much.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2014, 09:38:26 PM
wrong.

those guys are all members of the san jose sharks

probably speculating on what they will get back from san jose in return for setogucci.

Tells you, he aint worth much.
i was sarcastic there dude! ???


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
More stuff going on then i thought.

Penner moving kinda shocked me.
shocked you eh? Bloody why? I mean who really gives a rip bout the guy. Dude can't stick with a team something sure as hell is flaky about the guy. Like maybe he's a lazy sack of ****.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Today is national pancake day in the states, there is some irony to penner being moved on national pancake day.

If you dont know what im talking about, google it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:19:49 PM
shocked you eh? Bloody why? I mean who really gives a rip bout the guy. Dude can't stick with a team something sure as hell is flaky about the guy. Like maybe he's a lazy sack of ****.

is that sarcasm again?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:23:06 PM
the shocking trade is luongo to florida for markstrom and matthias, i say its shocking cuz i never saw it coming, Lou wasnt mentioned in any trade rumors this season, not as much atleast. Florida and Van were talking since sunday too.

Im shocked the canucks got anything back for him, i know people on twitter and that are ripping the canucks but to get markstrom and matthias (sure not proven but id take matthias as our 3rd line center and markstrom still has potential to be a very good goalie, was just named AHL goalie of the month)
in return for a guy who really only wanted to go to one place and one place only (florida), thats a good move.

Canucks are rebuilding now, that core much didnt get it done so now its time they get younger and cheaper.

I will laugh tho tomorrow when gillis panics tho and trades kesler to florida for luongo :P

Actually, kesler will go to philly or pitt.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:23:36 PM
i think it will be pretty slow for the most part....there are a ton of good players that are going to be FA's this summer....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
is that sarcasm again?

Im confused for some reason


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
i think it will be pretty slow for the most part....there are a ton of good players that are going to be FA's this summer....

its gonna be slow cuz all the moves are being done today.

Theres probably been 10 trades today

bryz to minny
fasth to edmonton
lou to florida
nyi traded mcdonald to philly
ana traded penner to wash

im missing a couple others.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:24:57 PM
the shocking trade is luongo to florida for markstrom and matthias, i say its shocking cuz i never saw it coming, Lou wasnt mentioned in any trade rumors this season, not as much atleast. Florida and Van were talking since sunday too.

Im shocked the canucks got anything back for him, i know people on twitter and that are ripping the canucks but to get markstrom and matthias (sure not proven but id take matthias as our 3rd line center and markstrom still has potential to be a very good goalie, was just named AHL goalie of the month)
in return for a guy who really only wanted to go to one place and one place only (florida), thats a good move.

Canucks are rebuilding now, that core much didnt get it done so now its time they get younger and cheaper.

I will laugh tho tomorrow when gillis panics tho and trades kesler to florida for luongo :P

Actually, kesler will go to philly or pitt.

the main part of that trade is that Vancouver is picking up part of luongo's salary...thats the only way they could move him



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
the shocking trade is luongo to florida for markstrom and matthias, i say its shocking cuz i never saw it coming, Lou wasnt mentioned in any trade rumors this season, not as much atleast. Florida and Van were talking since sunday too.

Im shocked the canucks got anything back for him, i know people on twitter and that are ripping the canucks but to get markstrom and matthias (sure not proven but id take matthias as our 3rd line center and markstrom still has potential to be a very good goalie, was just named AHL goalie of the month)
in return for a guy who really only wanted to go to one place and one place only (florida), thats a good move.

Canucks are rebuilding now, that core much didnt get it done so now its time they get younger and cheaper.

I will laugh tho tomorrow when gillis panics tho and trades kesler to florida for luongo :P

Actually, kesler will go to philly or pitt.

Really?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
its gonna be slow cuz all the moves are being done today.

Theres probably been 10 trades today

bryz to minny
fasth to edmonton
lou to florida
nyi traded mcdonald to philly
ana traded penner to wash

im missing a couple others.

ya....only 2 major trades in that group.

there will be plenty of roles players traded for draft picks, but i dont see any blockbusters happening


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
the main part of that trade is that Vancouver is picking up part of luongo's salary...thats the only way they could move him



15 percent isnt that bad to be taking back.

the main part is matthias and markstrom tho, 2 good young (not so young but young enough) for a guy who only wanted to go to florida.

Lou vetod trades last year and the year b4 cuz he didnt want to go anywhere but florida, to get anything in return for him is huge, so they pick up 15 percent of his contract, works out to about 1 million a year roughly they say, thats not a big deal.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:27:18 PM
ya....only 2 major trades in that group.

there will be plenty of roles players traded for draft picks, but i dont see any blockbusters happening

blockbusters never happen on trade deadline day.

Im not expecting one thats for sure

kesler tho to philly or pitt will be a blockbuster trade


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
15 percent isnt that bad to be taking back.

the main part is matthias and markstrom tho, 2 good young (not so young but young enough) for a guy who only wanted to go to florida.

Lou vetod trades last year and the year b4 cuz he didnt want to go anywhere but florida, to get anything in return for him is huge, so they pick up 15 percent of his contract, works out to about 1 million a year roughly they say, thats not a big deal.

it is in terms of a cap hit...there is no way he is moved without that aspect of the trade


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
ya....only 2 major trades in that group.

there will be plenty of roles players traded for draft picks, but i dont see any blockbusters happening

There was some pretty big moves made id say.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:28:57 PM
it is in terms of a cap hit...there is no way he is moved without that aspect of the trade

well no kidding but the fact they got 2 players in return is pretty decent, regardless of cap hits or whatever percentage they have to retain in lou's salary.

Its moving a guy who didnt want to be in vancouver for 2 guys who probably dont mind the change of scenery from florida.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Really?

you'll have to expand on that actually cuz "really" what?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:29:35 PM
There was some pretty big moves made id say.

3 goalies made up all the major trades.....all the players are just role guys.....nothing really substantial


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:31:25 PM
3 goalies made up all the major trades.....all the players are just role guys.....nothing really substantial

what do you expect? like crosby to be traded? its trade deadline not the summer.

Those are huge moves for a trade deadline day

trade deadline is normally about trading picks for rentals.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
ah well...im just glad Lou got traded, i am sick of hearing about him....he can play out his last years in Florida and dissapear


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:49:47 PM
Hes on the edge bro.


Anyway... Some of them role players may have an impact on what goes on with the rest. Ducks seem to be saying they are not players in a Cup this year so are moving on... Thats more less what im getting at as big moves. Some buy some sell  im not saying just the buyers... sellers to.

ducks are not players in a Cup?



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:50:15 PM
Vanek is not dressing tonight against the Jets....hope he gets traded to the Devils haha


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
ducks are not players in a Cup?



This year.... Nope


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:59:14 PM
This year.... Nope

huh?  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
although its rare for a #1 team to win a cup....the Ducks are very much in play to win it....im not following this at all


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
apparently the Ducks are not interested in Vanek, but are looking at Kesler


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 11:18:00 PM
apparently the Ducks are not interested in Vanek, but are looking at Kesler

We will see.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:23:41 PM
We will see.

even if they dont make another move...they are HUGE favs to win the cup  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
apparently the Ducks are not interested in Vanek, but are looking at Kesler

Vancouver wont trade kesler to a divisonal rival, he's off to philly or pitt.

Anaheim cleared cap space and will get vanek or moulson or even gaborik

LA will get who anaheim doesnt, moulson is quicks brother in law so there a connection.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:35:51 PM
Vancouver wont trade kesler to a divisonal rival, he's off to philly or pitt.



i dont even know if Vancouver would care at this point...if they trade Kesler and Edler after all ready trading Lou, they are officially in rebuild mode...plus there coach sucks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:38:31 PM
i wouldnt change anything if i was the Ducks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 12:53:27 AM
even if they dont make another move...they are HUGE favs to win the cup  :P

We will see.

I dont think so.

Eh it be good if they did.. i wouldnt be mad.  or angry.

But id think its a long shot they do,


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 01:04:21 AM
We will see.

I dont think so.

Eh it be good if they did.. i wouldnt be mad.  or angry.

But id think its a long shot they do,

why is that? because they've dominated the regular season?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 05, 2014, 06:49:47 AM
ducks choked the last time in the playoffs too.

Something about that team it seems. I dunno.

Might be someone weird winning, Colorado, St Louis maybe.

Think the winner comes from the west for sure.

If im the jets, who do i want in the first round? St Louis? nah, Chicago? no thanks, Anaheim? sounds good to me.

Just saying but be nice to send teemu into retirement by eliminating anaheim Game 6 in Winnipeg. :P If not tho, I hope the Ducks do win and get Teemu his stanley cup so he can retire (i know he has won b4), just saying, Teemu is a guy who deserves to go out a winner, Or in winnipeg game 6 vs the Ducks :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
Lightning made out pretty good moving St Louis


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
Lightning made out pretty good moving St Louis

Yup


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on March 05, 2014, 04:52:55 PM
Lightning made out pretty good moving St Louis

Yeah, when I first saw I thought it was for Callahan straight up, but when you throw in those picks, they did very well.

What is NYR trying to pull? St. Louis is old while Callahan still has lots in the tank and if those picks turn out, TB has really serviced their future. NY, not so much.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
Yeah, when I first saw I thought it was for Callahan straight up, but when you throw in those picks, they did very well.

What is NYR trying to pull? St. Louis is old while Callahan still has lots in the tank and if those picks turn out, TB has really serviced their future. NY, not so much.

Rangers always do odd things.

LOL i dont like them or Marty.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 04:58:38 PM
And Callahan is an FA...he could walk


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 05:21:23 PM
Gaborik confirmed a King


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 05:25:21 PM
Gaborik confirmed a King

Not sure if he adds anything to the Kings.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
Whats Jersey thinkin? Ruutu?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 08:34:33 PM
Whats Jersey thinkin? Ruutu?
don't know...guess he just wanted to make a move lol....I expect the devils to be very busy in the summer


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
don't know...guess he just wanted to make a move lol....I expect the devils to be very busy in the summer

I havent watched lots of their games but the one thing you notice right away is they are slow and Ruutu is like super slow like almost going backwards kinda slow.

I actually thought Lou would pull something out his arse and land Vanik or Kessel


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 09:24:10 PM


I actually thought Lou would pull something out his arse and land Vanik or Kessel

they have nothing to trade.....except for a few young dmen and a couple of forward prospects....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
and enough about St. Louis upset with Yzerman for `snubbing`him for Team Canada.......dont know how true it is...but if he is so upset about that then Tampa did the right thing...who wants a whiny almost 40 year old in there dressing room? cry me a river already you pipsqueak baby


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
and enough about St. Louis upset with Yzerman for `snubbing`him for Team Canada.......dont know how true it is...but if he is so upset about that then Tampa did the right thing...who wants a whiny almost 40 year old in there dressing room? cry me a river already you pipsqueak baby

LOL  your a fan of his to i see.

I never liked him for some reason. Now i have one.

Wish we could take his gold away. Should be a no whining policy. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 09:54:34 PM
LOL  your a fan of his to i see.

I never liked him for some reason. Now i have one.

Wish we could take his gold away. Should be a no whining policy. 

i never really had much opinion of him before....hes a good hockey player....but this whole whining thing is ridiculous....daddy Steve had to bring him to Russia so he could basically sit on the bench anyways, probably just to stop him from crying....i would love if they took his golden soother away!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 05, 2014, 10:01:57 PM
St. Louis put a big stain on his legacy in TB by leaving the way he did. I'm glad Yzerman was at least able to get a good return for him.

I hated the Rangers before, but now I really want to see them fail.





Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 05, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
The prices for rentals this year was way lower than last season and I'm not sure why. Vanek & Moulson were grabbed without having to give up much in return. Last year Douglas frikkin Murray cost a 2nd round pick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on March 05, 2014, 10:08:25 PM
I *am* a fan of St. Louis and this is hard to watch happen. Really too bad it has to happen this way. Guy got an Olympic gold medal and could have retired on top in TB. Instead he looked like the most unhappy gold medalist I've ever seen (makes the anti-NHL-players-in-Olympics crowd seem super correct) and also a whiner, ending up from the leader of a contender, to a team destined to spiral downward. Waste of a legacy :(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 10:20:03 PM
The prices for rentals this year was way lower than last season and I'm not sure why. Vanek & Moulson were grabbed without having to give up much in return. Last year Douglas frikkin Murray cost a 2nd round pick.

alot of FA's....these guys will come free in a few months


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2014, 11:09:47 PM
Vanek to Habs sure is interesting.
Kesler to Pens, meh they still have no D.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 11:10:29 PM
alot of FA's....these guys will come free in a few months

Yup


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2014, 11:12:30 PM
Who should the Jets target in the UFAs?



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 11:25:03 PM
Who should the Jets target in the UFAs?



I dont really think we will. My guess is we try to get Paul M signed up and we will continue on our path of building thru the draft and bringing players up.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 12:18:33 AM

Kesler to Pens, meh they still have no D.
Kesler is still a Canuck


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 12:23:53 AM
tons to choose from this summer.....http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
tons to choose from this summer.....http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents

Some teams are gonna spend


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 12:45:36 AM
Some teams are gonna spend

ya...im hoping the Devils go after at least 2 forwards


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2014, 12:51:20 AM
ya...im hoping the Devils go after at least 2 forwards

Who would u like to see?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 01:09:00 AM
Who would u like to see?

wish list

Cammalleri @ 5mil
Stastny @ 6mil
Roy @ 4mil
even Heatly...but he would have to come cheap....like 3-4mil tops


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2014, 01:15:12 AM
wish list

Cammalleri @ 5mil
Stastny @ 6mil
Roy @ 4mil
even Heatly...but he would have to come cheap....like 3-4mil tops

Good fit i would think


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 01:25:11 AM
Good fit i would think

ya...we need left wings


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on March 06, 2014, 02:04:24 PM
tons to choose from this summer.....http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents

Thanks Gregory. Quite a good list. Normally I would agree with NEM on being quiet in the summer but there are a lot of very tempting names to boost us. I wouldn't want to build our 2014/2015 roster with a bunch of UFAs, but one high impact one would be great, even if we had to pay a little more.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 06, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
How much does joker sign for?  New cap number is going to make this a sellers market, UFA will get rewarded this year.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 06, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
wish list

Cammalleri @ 5mil
even Heatly...but he would have to come cheap....like 3-4mil tops
Speaking as a Pens fan, I'd love to see the Devils make these signings at those prices. Heatley is nearly finished. All he would do is make the devils even slower. Cammalleri hasn't been very good for a few seasons now. He's still a useful player, but I'd never give him $5M.

I agree that Stastny would be a good signing though. You'd finally have a #1 centre. He and Henrique would be a decent 1-2 punch at C, as Henrique looks like he's finally back on track with what he showed in his rookie season.

I think their trade for Rutuu was terrible. He's just ok when healthy, which isn't very often. Plus he has a hefty contract with a few years left on it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 05:04:46 PM
Ruuto is not great lol...but the Canes take 20 percent of his contract and at least the cap is going up next year.....happy to hear the stupid NHL gave us our 1st round pick back from the kovalchuk fiasco...albeit its a 30 th pick lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 07, 2014, 12:44:31 AM
Quote
NEWARK, N.J. -- The NHL reduced its penalty against the New Jersey Devils on Thursday for signing Ilya Kovalchuk in 2010.

The Devils will keep the first-round draft pick they were scheduled to forfeit this year, and the league will reduce the $3 million fine assessed against the team for circumventing the NHL-NHLPA collective bargaining agreement

The Devils recently applied to the league for reconsideration and relief from a portion of the original penalty, citing primarily changes in circumstances which, in the club's view, changed the appropriateness of the sanctions.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445439


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 07, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445439
Bush league. They hand out an arbitrary penalty and then arbitrarily change it. It was strange that they picked only the Devils to punish for a cap circumventing contract, but it's also strange that they change their mind once it becomes time to enforce the strongest parts on the punishment.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 07, 2014, 02:31:15 PM
Bush league. They hand out an arbitrary penalty and then arbitrarily change it. It was strange that they picked only the Devils to punish for a cap circumventing contract, but it's also strange that they change their mind once it becomes time to enforce the strongest parts on the punishment.


I heard Lou sent his henchmen after Bettman. You know bust his balls a little.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 07, 2014, 03:24:45 PM
That's how they do things in jersey


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 07, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
That's how they do things in jersey
I guess you would know??. I guess here in Wpg and all  :D

Lou would be a Capitano you'd think by now. ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 07, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
I guess you would know??. I guess here in Wpg and all  :D

Lou would be a Capitano you'd think by now. ;)
ever see the Sopranos? :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 07, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
I've seen all things related to the mob. TV, movies, documentaries I've seen it all


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 11, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
Scary moment at Dallas-Columbus game. From the TSN website:

Rich Peverley collapsed on the bench during the Dallas Stars' game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.

The game was stopped midway through the first period while medical personnel attended to Peverley, with both teams leaving the ice. Blue Jackets President of Hockey Operations, John Davidson, has announced that the game will be postponed in light of the situation.

The NHL released a statement on Peverley's condition: "Dallas player Rich Peverley is doing well and is in stable condition. He has been transported to the hospital. As a result of the emotional state of the players on both teams caused by the medical emergency, the game is being postponed. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank the fans."

Peverley missed a game last week with an irregular heartbeat, the same condition that kept him out of the lineup for the entire preseason, according to the Dallas News.

More details to follow.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 11, 2014, 08:50:27 PM
Scary moment at Dallas-Columbus game. From the TSN website:

Rich Peverley collapsed on the bench during the Dallas Stars' game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.

The game was stopped midway through the first period while medical personnel attended to Peverley, with both teams leaving the ice. Blue Jackets President of Hockey Operations, John Davidson, has announced that the game will be postponed in light of the situation.

The NHL released a statement on Peverley's condition: "Dallas player Rich Peverley is doing well and is in stable condition. He has been transported to the hospital. As a result of the emotional state of the players on both teams caused by the medical emergency, the game is being postponed. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank the fans."

Peverley missed a game last week with an irregular heartbeat, the same condition that kept him out of the lineup for the entire preseason, according to the Dallas News.

More details to follow.

old news he's stable.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 11, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
old news he's stable.

It's wasn't old news at the time I posted it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 12, 2014, 05:50:19 AM
Gonna say it, it's pretty hard not to cheer on the stars right now, Yup i understand the implications to the JETS, but... i dont think the Jets will make it and if/when they dont, I think i might have to pull for the stars, would be a great story really, they beat st louis tonight a night after the peverly incident, which is news, HUGE NEWS STILL, thats a scary situation there, could have died really..

But if the Jets dont/when the jets dont get in, GO Stars Go!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 12, 2014, 05:52:07 AM
The other Hockey related news is a player from the saginaw spirit, trafford was found dead in his truck.

Missing for a week or so i believe.

Only 20 years old.

Must have had some issues. Was just suspended for vioation of rules by the OHL and also was known to have depression issues.

Sad story there.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theedge204 on March 14, 2014, 02:33:50 AM
update to trafford story

police say cause of death was self inflicted asphyxiation (surely that is not the correct spelling tho)

In other words tho, he killed himself.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 17, 2014, 01:04:33 PM
That's really sad. :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 12:54:46 AM
David Clarkson has a total of 10 points this season , and he earns a cap hit that is only 150k less then Kessels  :D and with that loss tonight, the Leafs move a step closer to not making the play offs again  ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 01:19:53 PM
David Clarkson was also hurt for how many games...? A lot.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
David Clarkson was also hurt for how many games...? A lot.
no...he was hurt for a few games...he was suspended for the rest of them


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
no...he was hurt for a few games...he was suspended for the rest of them

He's missed 23 games this season. Didn't he miss 12 due to suspension? That's still 11 missed due to injury.

Needless to say, the Leafs are in a tailspin.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on March 24, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
k, this is pretty sad, even for Leafs fans

April Reimer, the wife of Maple Leafs goalie James Reimer, became the cruel target of various Twitters users over the weekend.

Maple Leafs forward Tyler Bozak defended April Reimer, who has taken abuse from people critical of her husband's play in the Leaf goal in recent weeks.

"I think this is pretty low and pretty sad," the Maple Leaf forward said about the abusive tweets sent to April in the last two days.


http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2014/03/24/april_reimer_wife_of_maple_leaf_james_reimer_attacked_on_twitter.html


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
Reimer hasn't played well recently but the team as a whole hasn't, especially on the back end. Their defensive game is pretty much non-existent.

Reminds me of Jets fans who crap on the goalies here when they struggle.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
He's missed 23 games this season. Didn't he miss 12 due to suspension? That's still 11 missed due to injury.

Needless to say, the Leafs are in a tailspin.
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 24, 2014, 08:11:53 PM
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D
MAN THAT ONE REALY REALLY STINKS.

Makes Nonis look like an idiott.

By far THE bust in last years FA. Now the leafs won't even make the playoffs to see if Clarkson is even good in that arena of play.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 08:13:52 PM
MAN THAT ONE REALY REALLY STINKS.

Makes Nonis look like an idiott.

By far THE bust in last years FA. Now the leafs won't even make the playoffs to see if Clarkson is even good in that arena of play.

still a slim chance they can make it


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 24, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
still a slim chance they can make it
ah yep I agree


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 11:36:53 PM
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D

I didn't say it was good, did I? Clarkson has been a huge disappointment this season. Only a fool would argue that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 25, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
I didn't say it was good, did I? Clarkson has been a huge disappointment this season. Only a fool would argue that.

no..its just sounds like your making excuses for his poor play


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 26, 2014, 03:27:31 PM
no..its just sounds like your making excuses for his poor play

Haha, not at all. I'd never make an excuse for anyone wearing a Leafs jersey. I just think his being injured was a factor. ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on March 29, 2014, 12:15:38 PM
Phaneuf is playing poorly. . Carlyle will be fired after this.  He picks on his goaltender but doesnt say anything about his poor defense. Blaming one player for a 6 game losing streak?  come on.  Why didnt Bernier win the last game? Wasnt it a 5-3 game. Bernier should only let in 2 goals.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 29, 2014, 01:42:10 PM
Phaneuf is playing poorly. . Carlyle will be fired after this.  He picks on his goaltender but doesnt say anything about his poor defense. Blaming one player for a 6 game losing streak?  come on.  Why didnt Bernier win the last game? Wasnt it a 5-3 game. Bernier should only let in 2 goals.
why this testament now? What did Kitty say last night?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on March 29, 2014, 02:14:34 PM
Just seen the highlights Phaneuf giving up the puck . Carlyle didnt say anything lately . But he sounds like he's putting alot of blame on the backup goaltender, Reimer.  The team goes with Bernier and theres another loss. I dont think goalttending is the problem, its the defense and some of the forwards they use too much, Carlyle plays too many players that are just grinders.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 29, 2014, 04:19:35 PM
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D
He's certainly no Joe Pavelski...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 29, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
He's certainly no Joe Pavelski...
dudes a gamer no doubt!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 09, 2014, 07:13:04 PM
Kris Letang is supposed to play tonight - first game since his stroke. Great news.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 11, 2014, 09:00:20 PM
Ryan Smyth has announced he will be retiring. His last game will be on Saturday.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2014, 03:53:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL04INIzAWk


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 12, 2014, 02:25:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL04INIzAWk

Wow!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 12, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
Very cool why don't the jets have something that fancy?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2014, 03:27:32 PM
Devils coach off to Toronto?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 13, 2014, 05:46:07 PM
Anyone in any playoff pools?

I'm in one I'm going heavy on Boston

Plus the main point getters from Pittsburgh, Anaheim, and San Jose.

Those are the teams I like to succeed in this year's playoffs


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2014, 05:56:00 PM
This post-season is going to be a great one, IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 05:58:51 PM
Devils coach off to Toronto?

lol...no


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2014, 06:02:15 PM
lol...no

Hell no. Rumour is DeBoer is going to be extended this week:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449217 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449217)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2014, 06:09:20 PM
lol...no

LOL  was on twitter this morning.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 06:13:22 PM
LOL  was on twitter this morning.

of course...Leafs fans are running wild with speculation....everyone on the planet wants to work for the Leafs


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
of course...Leafs fans are running wild with speculation....everyone on the planet wants to work for the Leafs

Dat centre of da universe... ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2014, 06:18:57 PM
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/peter-deboer-to-coach-toronto-maple-leafs--say-it-ain-t-so--lou-215805162.html


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
looks like hes gonna re-sign with the devils


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
looks like hes gonna re-sign with the devils

Yup... Lou just said so.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
He gets another year


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 14, 2014, 02:56:22 PM
Add Nashville as a team looking for a new head coach. The Preds have announced they won't be renewing Barry Trotz's contract. He has been offered a job within the organization.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on April 14, 2014, 03:43:01 PM
Add Nashville as a team looking for a new head coach. The Preds have announced they won't be renewing Barry Trotz's contract. He has been offered a job within the organization.

If Maurice isn't re-signed, I wonder if he could end up with the Jets.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2014, 05:46:14 PM
If Maurice isn't re-signed, I wonder if he could end up with the Jets.

It sure sounds like Maurice wants to stay. It'll be his family situation that dictates the decision, though.

As for Trotz, he seems like a pretty passionate coach and enjoys being behind the bench. I find it hard to imagine he'd take this new offer from the Predators.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on April 14, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
It sure sounds like Maurice wants to stay. It'll be his family situation that dictates the decision, though.

As for Trotz, he seems like a pretty passionate coach and enjoys being behind the bench. I find it hard to imagine he'd take this new offer from the Predators.

Agree on both points.

The media seems to believe Paul will be back next year, but I have an iffy feeling about it due to the family situation. I'm sure he will weigh his options in the States and if someone gives him a "better offer" (opportunity, rather, not money-related) then I think he won't be here. IMO it's 50/50.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
I've heard his family may not want to leave Toronto..but who knows


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 14, 2014, 07:56:18 PM
I've heard his family may not want to leave Toronto..but who knows
They live in Ohio as per the free press today


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 08:27:56 PM
They live in Ohio as per the free press today

that seems like a very odd place for him to live


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 14, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
that seems like a very odd place for him to live
hey man it is what it is. Ya know wives and all.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 08:36:35 PM
hey man it is what it is. Ya know wives and all.

ya...wanting to live in Ohio and crap...weird...there must be some reason why they live in ohio of all places  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 10:53:57 PM
its gonna be a long off season....cant wait for draft day and UFA day.....hope we buy out at least one guy and get some younger scoring in that we desperatly need ...defense and goalie we look fine, just need to get  that scoring punch going


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 10:58:49 PM
maybe the Devils will be in on Kane lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 15, 2014, 07:32:08 PM
No playoff poolies out there?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on April 15, 2014, 07:50:47 PM
No playoff poolies out there?
I'm in if we do it again.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 15, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
I meant in other places not on here.

I dont have the time, energy to make one up on here.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on April 15, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
I meant in other places not on here.

I dont have the time, energy to make one up on here.
Fair point. It does take a lot of time/effort to write twenty names down.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 19, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
Man Boston let me down yesterday.

They need to  come back with a vengeance Sunday and I am sure they will.

All my other teams are winning though. Ana, SJ, Pitt


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 19, 2014, 04:49:35 PM
Lucic gets $5k fine for spearing DeKeyser in the nads.  I hope DeKeyser gets some of that...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 19, 2014, 08:49:04 PM
Lucic gets $5k fine for spearing DeKeyser in the nads.  I hope DeKeyser gets some of that...

Classless but nothing new when it comes to Lucic. He's a dirtbag.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 19, 2014, 09:19:30 PM
Not just classless, premeditated.  If you watch, he lines him up and "Bang".  I wonder if there is actually a legal recourse to take.  Can DeKeyser sue Lucic for assault with a weapon causing harm?   Would set a bad tone, but might prevent this crap from happening.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioq2gp2pJu4


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 02:33:47 PM
i dont like the idea of criminal charges ...they play the game knowing this kinda stuff can, and does happen


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: dd on April 20, 2014, 02:37:03 PM
A $5000 fine to someone making multi-millions is nothing, really there is no consequence to his action here. The only way to rid the sport of such bush league antics is fine the player AND to suspend the player for a game for doing something stupid. The player forfeits his salary for the game, which is alot more than the fine, plus it also puts his team in a bind. Until they do this, it is just lip service.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 02:39:38 PM
ya...he should be suspended at least 1 game for that


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 02:47:36 PM
i dont like the idea of criminal charges ...they play the game knowing this kinda stuff can, and does happen

I agree....  criminal charges are stupid.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 20, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
i dont like the idea of criminal charges ...they play the game knowing this kinda stuff can, and does happen

I agree....  criminal charges are stupid.

Seriously?  No job in the world allows you to "expect" to have your nads removes with a stick.

This could have led to permanent injury and affect his family status in the future.

This was not an act within the normal persuit of the game.  He was leaving the ice, and reached his stick between the legs and jammed.  No doubt it was a premeditated act intended to injure. 

I think an out of court settlement will be reached...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 04:01:51 PM
Seriously?  No job in the world allows you to "expect" to have your nads removes with a stick.

This could have led to permanent injury and affect his family status in the future.

This was not an act within the normal persuit of the game.  He was leaving the ice, and reached his stick between the legs and jammed.  No doubt it was a premeditated act intended to injure. 

I think an out of court settlement will be reached...

You really think hes going to sue him?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
and if a guy slashes another player...intending to so and breaks his wrist, should he sue? cause thats where your headed


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
and if a guy slashes another player...intending to so and breaks his wrist, should he sue? cause thats where your headed

Yup thats what im thinking. I dont even think he can sue him anyway.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Yup thats what im thinking. I dont even think he can sue him anyway.

no...i wouldnt think so....it would have to involve charging him criminally with assault


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 04:13:53 PM
no...i wouldnt think so....it would have to involve charging him criminally with assault

And thats not going to happen.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 20, 2014, 04:29:08 PM
and if a guy slashes another player...intending to so and breaks his wrist, should he sue? cause thats where your headed
Most slashes are attempts to hit the stick that miss.  Stick on stick is part of the game.  Interference, impeding progress, body checks, all part of the game. 

Cowardly attacking a guys nads from behind as you leave the ice?

Not a part of any game, and definately not a part of a game you get paid millions to play.

If he had hit him in the head from behind, any better?  Bertuzzi/Moore ring a bell?  How is this any more "part of the game" than that?

Watch the clip again.  Heading off the ice, reaches his stick through the legs and wham.  Not a gentle "hey, next time I'll get you" lovetap, but an intent to remove testicles.  Cup is not designed to prevent attacks from the rear...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 04:36:41 PM
Most slashes are attempts to hit the stick that miss.  Stick on stick is part of the game.  Interference, impeding progress, body checks, all part of the game. 

Cowardly attacking a guys nads from behind as you leave the ice?

Not a part of any game, and definately not a part of a game you get paid millions to play.

If he had hit him in the head from behind, any better?  Bertuzzi/Moore ring a bell?  How is this any more "part of the game" than that?

Watch the clip again.  Heading off the ice, reaches his stick through the legs and wham.  Not a gentle "hey, next time I'll get you" lovetap, but an intent to remove testicles.  Cup is not designed to prevent attacks from the rear...

Hes not going to be charged and nobodys going to get sued. It happens more then you think... we just dont see it.

Same with slashes. Alot of time they arnt trying to hit a stick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 20, 2014, 04:56:52 PM
Lucic wouldn't be held criminally responsible for something like that.

Yes, it's cowardly and classless. But criminal? No. Just no.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 04:58:30 PM
i dont have to watch it again...i see that he meant to do it, and it was a douchebag move...noone is denying that...but he wont be charged criminally


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 20, 2014, 09:34:51 PM
Most slashes are attempts to hit the stick that miss.  Stick on stick is part of the game.  Interference, impeding progress, body checks, all part of the game. 

Cowardly attacking a guys nads from behind as you leave the ice?

Not a part of any game, and definately not a part of a game you get paid millions to play.

If he had hit him in the head from behind, any better?  Bertuzzi/Moore ring a bell?  How is this any more "part of the game" than that?

Watch the clip again.  Heading off the ice, reaches his stick through the legs and wham.  Not a gentle "hey, next time I'll get you" lovetap, but an intent to remove testicles.  Cup is not designed to prevent attacks from the rear...
whatever medication you are on you should stop now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 20, 2014, 09:35:53 PM
Bruins won for me today got me 4 points woohoo.

Now if SJ can go up 2-0 that would make my weekend.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 21, 2014, 02:21:45 PM
From TSN:

Blackhawks defenceman Brent Seabrook has been suspended for three games for his hit on Blues centre David Backes during their first-round playoff series.

The NHL announced the punishment Sunday, Seabrook's 29th birthday.

Seabrook received a five-minute major and game misconduct penalty for a vicious elbow to Backes' head late in the third period of Saturday's Game 2. Backes had to be helped off the ice and did not return during St. Louis' 4-3 overtime victory.

Seabrook's penalty led to Vladimir Tarasenko's tying goal with 6.4 seconds left in regulation.

The suspension is a big blow for the Blackhawks, who are down 2-0 heading into Game 3 on Monday night. Seabrook had a goal and an assist in each of the first two games of the series.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449874 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449874)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 21, 2014, 02:23:34 PM
Hawks are likely done


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Mike on April 21, 2014, 02:34:38 PM
Seriously?  No job in the world allows you to "expect" to have your nads removes with a stick.

This could have led to permanent injury and affect his family status in the future.

This was not an act within the normal persuit of the game.  He was leaving the ice, and reached his stick between the legs and jammed.  No doubt it was a premeditated act intended to injure. 

I think an out of court settlement will be reached...

No.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 21, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
Hawks are likely done

People are saying the same about the Kings. It's not over until it's over. The Sharks and the Blues still have to win two more games.

This first round has been amazing so far.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 21, 2014, 09:08:54 PM
Well the hawks are keeping it close losing 2 in OT...the kings got thrashed and embarrased last night


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 21, 2014, 11:40:52 PM
How about them Blue Jackets?

Well the hawks are keeping it close losing 2 in OT...the kings got thrashed and embarrased last night

Two games is still two games. The Hawks' chances seem better but my point stands.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2014, 12:16:05 AM
How about them Blue Jackets?

Looks like I spoke too soon. :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 22, 2014, 12:59:35 AM
that was a breakdown of epic proportions


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2014, 03:02:23 AM
Brutal. They were dominating through 40 mins.

Big wins for the Hawks and the Wild tonight. Looks like the Stars could get back into their series, too.

What an exciting opening round this year!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on April 22, 2014, 12:58:32 PM
Brutal. They were dominating through 40 mins.

Big wins for the Hawks and the Wild tonight. Looks like the Stars could get back into their series, too.

What an exciting opening round this year!

I agree. I looked at the match ups before the playoffs began and a lot of it looked like a big 'ol m'eh. But whereas I normally don't bother a whole lot with the first round, I find myself watching a lot of the games and really enjoying them so far.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 23, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
Playoff hockey is awesome.   ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 23, 2014, 12:54:01 AM
I follow along, but I rarely watch games...my teams out so I don't care :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 23, 2014, 03:24:13 AM
I follow along, but I rarely watch games...my teams out so I don't care :P

same


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on April 24, 2014, 01:10:30 AM
Holy crap is Fleury a train wreck...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 24, 2014, 01:30:05 AM
Matt Cooke suspended for 7 games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2014, 01:43:27 AM
Holy crap is Fleury a train wreck...

He had a bad game. But the same way the Jackets stepped off the gas on Monday, the Pens did pretty much the same thing tonight. Coughed up at 3-0 lead pretty badly and were outshot the final 40 mins.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on April 24, 2014, 03:20:52 PM
Matt Cooke suspended for 7 games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237)

Shame it isn't more but because of the new CBA...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 24, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
Holy crap is Fleury a train wreck...

I'm sure Shero is starting to feel like he has seen this movie far too many times.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on April 24, 2014, 03:46:48 PM
Shame it isn't more but because of the new CBA...

Someone like Cooke doesn't belong in the NHL. What gives him the right to deliberately injure another player in such a blatant and obvious manner?

At the very least he should be suspended for as long as Barrie is unable to play.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 24, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Matt Cooke suspended for 7 games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237)

Too bad it wasn't more.

I realize that this is a reactionary defensive move at times, but Cooke is the common denominator far too many times over the years. The guy just can't help himself from making bone-headed cheap shots.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 24, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
I would love to see the blue jackets win there first play off series...stupid penguins


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on April 24, 2014, 08:08:17 PM
I would love to see the blue jackets win there first play off series...stupid penguins

I think there are several teams,  Jets included, that could live vicariously through the Blue Jackets!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 25, 2014, 07:46:25 PM
He had a bad game. But the same way the Jackets stepped off the gas on Monday, the Pens did pretty much the same thing tonight. Coughed up at 3-0 lead pretty badly and were outshot the final 40 mins.
No sweeper is right HE IS a train wreck especially when he lets in one bad goal.  :'(



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 25, 2014, 09:50:34 PM
Fleury is a train wreck


http://youtu.be/WQGz9UoKOKo


http://youtu.be/Ir7Ha6NqyHs

http://youtu.be/c8gMr0D2Pg8

dude screws up at the worst times lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 26, 2014, 02:39:24 PM
From TSN: Washington fires Oates, not renewing McPhee's contract

The Washington Capitals have fired coach Adam Oates and will not renew the contract of general manager George McPhee after failing to make the NHL playoffs for the first time since 2007.

The team announced the moves in a news release Saturday.

Oates, a former star player for the Capitals, had one season left on his three-year contract. This was his first job as a head coach.

"We are also appreciative of Adam's efforts and thank him for his devotion, work ethic and contributions to the Capitals the past two seasons," said Capitals majority owner Ted Leonsis. "He is a smart, tactical coach who improved the performance of several of our players. He is a Hall of Fame player who we believe will be a longtime coach in the NHL. We will help him in whatever way we are able and wish him well."

McPhee's contract was up. He has been the GM of the team for 17 years, drafting Alex Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom in the first round.

"George has been a terrific, longtime executive for our franchise, and I'm grateful for his commitment to the Capitals organization for the past 17 years," said Leonsis.

While Ovechkin has won three league MVP awards and again led the NHL in scoring this season with 51 goals, the Capitals haven't made it past the second round of the playoffs during the Russian wing's career.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450491 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450491)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 27, 2014, 08:05:47 PM
hoping the Hawks win


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 27, 2014, 08:34:21 PM
well..thats all she wrote for the Blues


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 27, 2014, 08:57:26 PM
well..thats all she wrote for the Blues

Hawks.

Thats a good team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 27, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
Blues have been a top 5 team the past few seasons and have zero to show for it


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 27, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
Blues have been a top 5 team the past few seasons and have zero to show for it

Yup....  Once they get to this point smallest things make or break a team.

Really good teams seem to gt there.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 29, 2014, 07:39:31 PM
Sounds like Jagr has a deal in place to return to the Devils


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 29, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Hawks are likely done

Or not.  ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on April 29, 2014, 09:29:57 PM
Or not.  ;)
ya...I was suprisingly wrong about something ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2014, 01:15:58 PM
What an amazing first round. I really thought the Jackets were going to force a game 7 on Monday night. Needless to say, they really give the boring Penguins a run for their money. Regardless of who wins the Flyers/Rangers series, I don't see the Penguins beating either team if they continue to play as pitifully as they did in the first round. They continue to underachieve in the post-season. Ever since that series with the Flyers in 2012. Hilarious. LOL

The Blues lived up to their identity. Yet again. What a sad effort in game 6. It looks like the Sharks are no different in that regard, either. If they lose game 7 tonight and get eliminated, I don't think it'll be a shocker at all. I'd rather see the Kings move on to the next round, anyway.

The NHL playoffs are awesome! ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on April 30, 2014, 01:19:00 PM
What an amazing first round. I really thought the Jackets were going to force a game 7 on Monday night. Needless to say, they really give the boring Penguins a run for their money.

When is the last time the Penguins had a boring playoff series?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2014, 01:23:11 PM
When is the last time the Penguins had a boring playoff series?

I meant their style of play in the post-season. It's nowhere near as exciting to watch compared to the regular season.

And last year's ECF with the Bruins. The Pens were an utter bore to watch.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 30, 2014, 09:09:28 PM
Wow huge night tonight 3 game 7s

I need SJ to finally close out for my pool team and an Avs and LA loss would hurt my buddies pool team.

I don't need either Philly or rangers to win but I'd like to see Philly win because them VS Pitt would epic.

Christmas tonight you're a hockey fan.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Zipp on May 01, 2014, 03:09:41 AM
Wow...minny ties it up with wicked shot under 3 minutes left.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Zipp on May 01, 2014, 03:13:34 AM
Reports out of Vancouver have Torts being fired tomorrow morning.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 01, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Dang Avs just couldn't keep a lead. I really thought they'd move on to the second round but full marks to the Wild for taking game 7 in Denver. That was a fun game.

As expected, the Sharks choke and get eliminated with relative ease by the Kings. The look on Wilson's face at the end of the game was something else.

The second round of these playoffs is going to be a blast!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 01, 2014, 02:06:37 PM
Over the past 15 years or so, the sharks are hands down the worst best team in the league


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 01, 2014, 03:40:17 PM
I really thought the sharks would make it this year that's me taking players from the team instead of LA.

Boy was I wrong. Sharks just aren't built for the playoffs.

Rather sad really!



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 01, 2014, 04:18:47 PM
Ya...they should trade Marleau to the Devils


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on May 01, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
Torts is officially a goner.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450923

And the **** show that is the Vancouver Canucks ownership just keeps going on and on ....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on May 01, 2014, 05:51:27 PM
(https://lh3.ggpht.com/etYBbFX1faL_h-QWl4oeq16sc0JN8qAjoiRgHpK29k8uAzMsnRR8Pa2FPHgOyyemTM7hDA=s90)

(Caption:  This is the part of the stick they keep choking on)

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10308123_749711798393957_757231371816016120_n.jpg

Too soon?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 01, 2014, 05:53:19 PM
Too soon? Hell nah. The Sharks choked hard.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
Ya...they should trade Marleau to the Devils
He has a no trade clause and he'd never want to go to NJ.  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 02, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
 
He has a no trade clause and he'd never want to go to NJ.  :D
I know...but I've wanted him for a long time...don't crush my dreams lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 02, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
He has a no trade clause and he'd never want to go to NJ.  :D

Actually it's a no movement clause - Thornton has one too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 02, 2014, 11:08:11 PM
Actually it's a no movement clause - Thornton has one too.

same thing..pretty much ...especially in regards to Marleau and Thronton


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 02, 2014, 11:14:44 PM
Actually it's a no movement clause - Thornton has one too.
A large % of your posts start with "Actually, ...". You're all about fact checking.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 06, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
wow, compared to the first round of the playoffs my interest has really come.

I am paying attention the the HAB one but the rest I could careless about.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 06, 2014, 10:41:30 PM
its the time of year when i am simply rooting for the lesser of the evils....if the habs win then its 4 months of listening to the Cup is finally back in Canada (like that means anything, its lame)...if the Pens win, then its 4 months of how great Crosby is, blah blah blah..........i hate the kings since they beat the Devils.....i dont wnat the Wild to win, because Parise is there, and i hope he never wins a cup...i dislike the Rangers because they are the Devils hudson river rivals, and i am indifferent towards Boston.....so i guess I am rooting for the Hawks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 06, 2014, 10:42:34 PM
but mostly i am waiting for the draft and UFA signings


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 06, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
its the time of year when i am simply rooting for the lesser of the evils....if the habs win then its 4 months of listening to the Cup is finally back in Canada (like that means anything, its lame)...if the Pens win, then its 4 months of how great Crosby is, blah blah blah..........i hate the kings since they beat the Devils.....i dont wnat the Wild to win, because Parise is there, and i hope he never wins a cup...i dislike the Rangers because they are the Devils hudson river rivals, and i am indifferent towards Boston.....so i guess I am rooting for the Hawks

He's great no matter what happens this spring, so you may as well cheer for him...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 07, 2014, 12:15:08 AM
He's great no matter what happens this spring, so you may as well cheer for him...

his stock is on the decline


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on May 07, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
his stock is on the decline

ya I guess winning the Art Ross again playing with 1 little better than average scoring winger certainly tells me the kid is on the decline in the middle of his prime.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 07, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
ya I guess winning the Art Ross again playing with 1 little better than average scoring winger certainly tells me the kid is on the decline in the middle of his prime.

Just like being a finalist for the Hart Trophy and the Ted Lindsay Award, which is voted on by the players, is a sure sign of decline.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 07, 2014, 02:21:42 PM
HMMMM I think the angry one just dislikes Crosby and is venting again.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 07, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
Bingo!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 07, 2014, 09:23:55 PM
Well I can't enough of Sid the Kid!!!

 :-*


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 08, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
Carlyle extended...kinda suprising

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=451611....Leafs suck


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 08, 2014, 09:06:11 PM
Carlyle not fired, good it will make next years epic melt down even better.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 08, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
Carlyle not fired, good it will make next years epic melt down even better.

LOL

I figured theyd clean house


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on May 08, 2014, 11:09:05 PM
LOL

I figured theyd clean house

Well, they did and they didn't ... they kept Carlyle, but fired all of his assistants.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on May 09, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Carlyle wasn't the problem IMO. Good choice to keep him. Their adjustments will need to come on the roster.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 09, 2014, 02:29:42 PM
Consistency is the issue tho imo...they were very much a playoff team for over half the season...then they lost like 10 games in a row, taking them out of the race, and they could never get back on track....that's a coaching issue imo


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 11, 2014, 02:40:59 AM
Sean Thornton is such an idiot. I hope the fine he gets for squirting Subban with the water bottle is a big one.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2014, 12:36:03 AM
Sean Thornton is such an idiot. I hope the fine he gets for squirting Subban with the water bottle is a big one.

Chump change. The league doesn't seem care if players resort to childish antics.

Lundqvist did it to Crosby tonight. I wonder if he'll get fined.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 14, 2014, 01:06:44 AM
later Syd


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 14, 2014, 01:38:40 AM
Chump change. The league doesn't seem care if players resort to childish antics.

Lundqvist did it to Crosby tonight. I wonder if he'll get fined.

What Lundqvist did was different. Play was over when he sprayed Crosby. Thornton did it from the bench while play was going on.

It was a small fine but it was the maximum fine they could give under the CBA. And because Lundqvist makes more money, his fine was bigger than Thornton's. Did Perry get a fine for squirting water into that guy's glove during a break?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 14, 2014, 08:42:18 PM
Any friendly bets on the Habs VS Bears game tonight?

I say Bruins in a 3-2 double overtime contest. Iggy scores to end it!

If Habs win I take Vanek just for fun for game winning goal!

Please enter here v
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Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 14, 2014, 09:05:03 PM
sounds as though Bylsma and Shero will be gone from Pittsburgh any time now


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 14, 2014, 09:13:35 PM
sounds as though Bylsma and Shero will be gone from Pittsburgh any time now
ya both will be gonzo


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 15, 2014, 12:53:31 PM
sounds as though Bylsma and Shero will be gone from Pittsburgh any time now

Both or neither must go, IMO. Shero can't stick around if he cans Byslma. That'd be a travesty.

So glad the Bruins are out. I'm no Habs fan but it's always good when the B's get booted. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 15, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
I'm glad the B's are out to but the Habs are my second team after the Jets.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on May 15, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
Milan "Cowbell" Lucic is quite the piece of work.  Gets angry after getting the gears for celebrating too early. 

Looks good on him....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on May 15, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
NYR in 7
Ducks beat LA, and then go on to beat the Hawks & then NYR in the SC final.
And the Finish Flash caps his career off with a Stanley Cup, Olympic Bronze Medal, and Olympic MVP!! ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 15, 2014, 08:02:02 PM
NYR in 7
Ducks beat LA, and then go on to beat the Hawks & then NYR in the SC final.
And the Finish Flash caps his career off with a Stanley Cup, Olympic Bronze Medal, and Olympic MVP!! ;D

even if all that happens Selanne will not win Conn Smythe...unless he scores about a dozen goals from now till then


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on May 15, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
even if all that happens Selanne will not win Conn Smythe...unless he scores about a dozen goals from now till then

Captain Obvious that's a poor attempt at being Debbie Downer. :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 16, 2014, 02:56:38 AM
Milan "Cowbell" Lucic is quite the piece of work.  Gets angry after getting the gears for celebrating too early. 

Looks good on him....

It dont matter.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 16, 2014, 03:02:44 AM
Teemu.... Will go in the HOF as a Duck.



Sad   :P       But 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2014, 12:30:27 PM
It dont matter.

Sure it does. He's disrespectful, immature and downright jerkish. That sort of douchebag behaviour and piss-poor attitude has no place in pro sports, especially during a handshake after a playoff game. Not to mention his "celebratory" bicep flexing and taking his stick to another player's genitals. He then utters threats like some kind of psycho after his team lost and then calls out Weise and Emelin for saying something about it, resorting to name-calling and some lame attempt at saying they should've left it on the ice. Give me a break.

Milan Lucic needs to grow up. Being a sore loser to the extent his has been only makes him look bad in all of this.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
Looks like Shero and Bylsma are gone:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452306 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452306)

Holy balls.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on May 16, 2014, 05:46:54 PM
Sure it does. He's disrespectful, immature and downright jerkish. That sort of douchebag behaviour and piss-poor attitude has no place in pro sports, especially during a handshake after a playoff game. Not to mention his "celebratory" bicep flexing and taking his stick to another player's genitals. He then utters threats like some kind of psycho after his team lost and then calls out Weise and Emelin for saying something about it, resorting to name-calling and some lame attempt at saying they should've left it on the ice. Give me a break.

Milan Lucic needs to grow up. Being a sore loser to the extent his has been only makes him look bad in all of this.

I started reading then it all just turned to Blah Blah Blah  :p      In the end this sport is all about the entertainment factor and Lucic has entertained me :D

I for one do not find it a big deal. He told Emilin and Weise he was gunning for them next season. There is nothing wrong with that at all. He is a power forward that hits and he is going to hit them very hard when he has the opportunity. Multiple players went nut happy these playoffs, Markov and Perry amoung them.......Lucic is just a trend setter. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on May 16, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
I'm a big fan of Lucic, however, the bag check from behind and the threats while shaking hands doesn't look all that good on the big guy. Take your loss like a man and keep your mouth shut if you have nothing good to say when shaking hands. Then when next year rolls around and you still have some anger and hatred towards a particular player just inform him of it on the ice.

And Weise should have taken the high road and not said a thing about it. Telling the media you were threatened doesn't look good on ya. Just deal with it next year. And if the time comes you have to drop the gloves with Lucic just get in close and hang on. Weise is big enough to at least protect himself. This is a mans game, don't look to the media & fans for empathy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 16, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
And Weise should have taken the high road and not said a thing about it. Telling the media you were threatened doesn't look good on ya. Just deal with it next year. And if the time comes you have to drop the gloves with Lucic just get in close and hang on. Weise is big enough to at least protect himself. This is a mans game, don't look to the media & fans for empathy.

Weise said he was threatened? The interviews I saw he said he wasn't going to say what was said.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 16, 2014, 09:57:56 PM
Weise said he was threatened? The interviews I saw he said he wasn't going to say what was said.
Ah Weise did take the high road. Can't blame him for nothing even afterwards. Lucic is a knob and it should have been known if it wasn't already. Don't' wrap whatever Weise did into this crap. IT'S ALL Lulu being the anything here.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on May 16, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Weise said he was threatened? The interviews I saw he said he wasn't going to say what was said.

You're right. I have since read that a certain reporter admits to reading too much into Weise post game comments. Weise alluded to the fact comments were said and that Lucic could have shown more class like Thornton.

Nothing drastic there, but a "no comment" would have sufficed rather than a subtle last poke at a angry bear thru the media.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 16, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
You're right. I have since read that a certain reporter admits to reading too much into Weise post game comments. Weise alluded to the fact comments were said and that Lucic could have shown more class like Thornton.

Nothing drastic there, but a "no comment" would have sufficed rather than a subtle last poke at a angry bear thru the media.
a bah humm bug


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2014, 12:50:07 AM
Well, the Ducks forgot to show up tonight. Yikes. :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 17, 2014, 02:41:10 AM
Weise should have not said anything about what a player told him on the ice.

Lucic is an idiot for opening his mouth.

Both these guys need to learn to not comment on things said on ice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on May 17, 2014, 05:46:32 PM
Weise should have not said anything about what a player told him on the ice.

Lucic is an idiot for opening his mouth.

Both these guys need to learn to not comment on things said on ice.

Sorry, but "heat of battle" and "unwritten code of what is said on the ice" is dumb.  These are grown men playing a professional sport for millions of dollars. Wanna be a jerk and and take a chance at destroying your earning potential, knock yourself out.  But don't be upset when you get outed. 

His comments had no place on the ice or off.  The game was over, there was nothing at stake, he was just bitter about losing and lashed out at someone that was less of a "star" thinking he is better than Weiss, and its Weiss's job to take that kind of crap from him.  Sorry, it isn't anyone's job to take that abuse.  He needs to find a more appropriate outlet for his anger. 

As to the whole Cowbell incident earlier, sorry, but that defines Lucic for me.  Regardless any on ice heroics he may perform, my thought of him will be that whacking of an unsuspecting opponent in the genitals when his back is turned.  The epitome of both classlessness and cowardice. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2014, 06:39:18 PM
Hahaha... The Habs.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 17, 2014, 06:40:12 PM
oops....montreal forget there was a game today



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 17, 2014, 08:32:21 PM
Sorry, but "heat of battle" and "unwritten code of what is said on the ice" is dumb.  These are grown men playing a professional sport for millions of dollars. Wanna be a jerk and and take a chance at destroying your earning potential, knock yourself out.  But don't be upset when you get outed. 

His comments had no place on the ice or off.  The game was over, there was nothing at stake, he was just bitter about losing and lashed out at someone that was less of a "star" thinking he is better than Weiss, and its Weiss's job to take that kind of crap from him.  Sorry, it isn't anyone's job to take that abuse.  He needs to find a more appropriate outlet for his anger. 

As to the whole Cowbell incident earlier, sorry, but that defines Lucic for me.  Regardless any on ice heroics he may perform, my thought of him will be that whacking of an unsuspecting opponent in the genitals when his back is turned.  The epitome of both classlessness and cowardice. 

I never mentioned any heat of the battle.

Players say crap to each other all the time. Most are just smart enuff to not mention it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 18, 2014, 12:26:47 AM
Regardless any on ice heroics he may perform, my thought of him will be that whacking of an unsuspecting opponent in the genitals when his back is turned.  The epitome of both classlessness and cowardice. 

You sure seem concerned about that player's junk. I have to wonder if Lucic had high sticked the guy if you would be as upset. I'm certainly not defending Lucic but he wasn't the first to do that and he won't be the last but you're acting like he's the only one to ever do it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
I never mentioned any heat of the battle.

Players say crap to each other all the time. Most are just smart enuff to not mention it.

During the game. Not after the game during a handshake.

You sure seem concerned about that player's junk. I have to wonder if Lucic had high sticked the guy if you would be as upset. I'm certainly not defending Lucic but he wasn't the first to do that and he won't be the last but you're acting like he's the only one to ever do it.

This is a great point. Crosby did it to Girardi (IIRC) during the last round. Only he never got punished for it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 18, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
During the game. Not after the game during a handshake.

This is a great point. Crosby did it to Girardi (IIRC) during the last round. Only he never got punished for it.

True enough... but i still say it should stay on the ice. Tell your mates and coaches but not the media.

Its really stupid to say anything at that point but i dont think it needs to be brought out, it wont fix or prove anything.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
True enough... but i still say it should stay on the ice. Tell your mates and coaches but not the media.

Its really stupid to say anything at that point but i dont think it needs to be brought out, it wont fix or prove anything.

Well, it proves how classless Lucic is. Look at his history in the NHL. He's a goon through and through. Win or lose, he has no respect and it seems like the only way he'll ever change his attitude is if he gets his lights knocked out.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 18, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
Well, it proves how classless Lucic is. Look at his history in the NHL. He's a goon through and through. Win or lose, he has no respect and it seems like the only way he'll ever change his attitude is if he gets his lights knocked out.

Thats my point tho... Hes a jerkoff and everyone knows it. Tell your mates and take care of biz the next time you see him.

Whats said and done on the ice should be delt with on the ice.  IMO


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 18, 2014, 09:41:21 PM
after seeing some of todays I don't care about anybody else, Chicago's winning the cup again.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 19, 2014, 12:55:23 AM
True enough... but i still say it should stay on the ice. Tell your mates and coaches but not the media.

Its really stupid to say anything at that point but i dont think it needs to be brought out, it wont fix or prove anything.

I think it would have stayed on the ice if the media hadn't brought it up. Neither player said what Lucic said - that came from the lip reading skills of the media.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 01:05:50 AM
I think it would have stayed on the ice if the media hadn't brought it up. Neither player said what Lucic said - that came from the lip reading skills of the media.

True... and it should have been just shot down.

Put away for another day.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 12:57:26 PM
after seeing some of todays I don't care about anybody else, Chicago's winning the cup again.

agreed....Toews is hands down the best player in the world


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on May 19, 2014, 02:17:30 PM
I think it would have stayed on the ice if the media hadn't brought it up. Neither player said what Lucic said - that came from the lip reading skills of the media.

Only an idiot would think that after a game like that, there would not be cameras all over them, recording every syllable out of their mouths.  Heck, Lucic got caught days earlier Cowbell'ing a player behind the play, didn't he learn from that? 

Sure, in the beer league, what happens on the ice stays on the ice.  But when you get paid millions to play, and you have 27 cameras on you, its worse than any other celebrity and paparazzi.  There is no expectation of privacy on the ice.  Especially during the Stanley freaking Cup playoffs.

Again, he physically assaults a guy outside the realm of play (the player did not have the puck, and was not involved in the play when he tried to castrate him), and then he utters a death threat to another player.  Do either of these in a bar, and you are open to criminal charges.  Put on a hockey helemt and it just "part of the game". 

The sooner they remove these shenanigans from the game, the better.  Or, quit putting up the pretense, and bring us Rollerball on Ice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 02:23:59 PM
Sounds like Miller will be on the move... Blues signed Elliott to 3 years 7mil.

And Price is out for remainder of the series.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 02:39:50 PM
athletes have been saying stuff like that to each other since the beginning of organized sports...hes not literally going to kill him....should he have said that during the handshake? probably not the best place for it, but enough with the dramatics already....you think guys dont say stuff like this to each other in football?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 02:42:01 PM
athletes have been saying stuff like that to each other since the beginning of organized sports...hes not literally going to kill him....should he have said that during the handshake? probably not the best place for it, but enough with the dramatics already....you think guys dont say stuff like this to each other in football?

Someone should get a lawyer.   :o


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Sounds like Miller will be on the move... Blues signed Elliott to 3 years 7mil.

And Price is out for remainder of the series.

betcha the Leafs go hard over Miller....but i am betting he goes for a payday in the sun and signs with the sharks or ducks ...probably sharks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Someone should get a lawyer.   :o

sue everyone!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
agreed....Toews is hands down the best player in the world

Ya i agree.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 02:55:25 PM
betcha the Leafs go hard over Miller....but i am betting he goes for a payday in the sun and signs with the sharks or ducks ...probably sharks

He will go for the money.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
He will go for the money.

not entirely sure but possibly.....i think the oilers/flames/islanders might go after him with a large offer...but i highly doubt he wants to go to any of those places...i could see him going to the west coast for less money


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 03:08:02 PM
not entirely sure but possibly.....i think the oilers/flames/islanders might go after him with a large offer...but i highly doubt he wants to go to any of those places...i could see him going to the west coast for less money

i could see TO and Ed going after him.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: dd on May 19, 2014, 03:13:02 PM
Lucic=Moron=goon=embarassment to hockey


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 03:25:51 PM
i could see TO and Ed going after him.

the leafs for sure...but Miller is smarter then to sign to the place where good goalies go to die


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 03:28:50 PM
the leafs for sure...but Miller is smarter then to sign to the place where good goalies go to die

Yup.

Im not a fan of his.

Maybe he ends up with Pitts.  LOL


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 03:32:42 PM
Yup.

Im not a fan of his.

Maybe he ends up with Pitts.  LOL

possibly, but even when all the trade rumors were abound about him this year, they mentioned he really wanted to be out west.....after years of living in Buffalo, im sure the beach and sun sound good to him, and if that means a million or less in his pocket, then im thinking he goes for it


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on May 19, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Can't see why Ryan Miller sign with a west coast team . Here's why


San Jose : Antti Niemi

Anaheim : Jonas Hiller

Los Angeles : Jon Quick

Vancouver : Eddie Lack

Phoenix ( warm year round ) : Mike Smith


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 19, 2014, 04:49:56 PM
Price to miss remainder of series vs. the Rangers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556)

Yikes.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on May 19, 2014, 05:02:54 PM
Price to miss remainder of series vs. the Rangers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556)

Yikes.

That's going to hurt the Habs big time.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 19, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
That's going to hurt the Habs big time.
hear the


Poof........

There goes the Habs chance to advance.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 19, 2014, 07:48:48 PM
There's a 0% chance the Leafs go after Miller. They've got Bernier & he was very good for most of last season. Goaltending is the least of their concerns.

I think Miller will end up in San Jose. I've read in a few places that they really want to move on from Niemi, & Miller really wants to be on the West coast b/c his wife is an actress. It seems like a natural fit.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 19, 2014, 07:53:46 PM
possibly, but even when all the trade rumors were abound about him this year, they mentioned he really wanted to be out west.....after years of living in Buffalo, im sure the beach and sun sound good to him, and if that means a million or less in his pocket, then im thinking he goes for it

Pittsburgh can't afford what Miller will be asking for. Even if they could, I wouldn't want them to do it.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 08:55:29 PM


I think Miller will end up in San Jose. I've read in a few places that they really want to move on from Niemi, & Miller really wants to be on the West coast b/c his wife is an actress. It seems like a natural fit.

agreed


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 08:58:28 PM
There's a 0% chance the Leafs go after Miller. They've got Bernier & he was very good for most of last season. Goaltending is the least of their concerns.



i think the leafs go on anyone....they have the attitude that "hey, everyone wants to be a leaf" ......they'll throw out an offer


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 08:59:31 PM
bad year for Marty to test the free agency waters...i cant see him signing with anyone now that Miller and Hiller are both going to be available.....the only team i see him going to is the Islanders


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 19, 2014, 09:19:52 PM
There's a 0% chance the Leafs go after Miller. They've got Bernier & he was very good for most of last season. Goaltending is the least of their concerns.

I think Miller will end up in San Jose. I've read in a few places that they really want to move on from Niemi, & Miller really wants to be on the West coast b/c his wife is an actress. It seems like a natural fit.
I agree Miller Leafs seems right if they have the cay room.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 19, 2014, 09:20:38 PM
bad year for Marty to test the free agency waters...i cant see him signing with anyone now that Miller and Hiller are both going to be available.....the only team i see him going to is the Islanders
ew might as well retire if he goes there!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
ew might as well retire if he goes there!

its his only real chance to be a starter....close to home and with a team that has youth and potential to get into the play offs


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 09:29:43 PM
its his only real chance to be a starter....close to home and with a team that has youth and potential to get into the play offs

Islanders will sign Halak.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
Islanders will sign Halak.

if Halak wants to sign there


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 19, 2014, 11:58:19 PM
Pittsburgh can't afford what Miller will be asking for. Even if they could, I wouldn't want them to do it.

Cap issues aside, goaltending is not the problem with the Penguins.

if Halak wants to sign there

This.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 20, 2014, 12:38:56 AM
not much will happen in pittsburgh...new gm...maybe a new coach....but the same group of players


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 20, 2014, 12:42:55 AM
not entirely sure but possibly.....i think the oilers/flames/islanders might go after him with a large offer...but i highly doubt he wants to go to any of those places...i could see him going to the west coast for less money

Since Miller's wife is an actress based in California that is a very likely scenario.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: dd on May 20, 2014, 01:02:17 AM
Cap issues aside, goaltending is not the problem with the Penguins.



If the Penguins had Miller years ago, they'd have more Cups to show for it. They need solid goaltending that can win them games. They continue to be successful despite Fleury, not because of.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2014, 01:03:26 AM
Since Miller's wife is an actress based in California that is a very likely scenario.

Maybe the Ducks...? Hiller's a UFA this off-season, right...?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 20, 2014, 01:17:49 AM
Maybe the Ducks...? Hiller's a UFA this off-season, right...?

yes..and Hiller sounds as tho he is very much done with the Ducks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 20, 2014, 12:42:02 PM
not much will happen in pittsburgh...new gm...maybe a new coach....but the same group of players
They'll have some reasonably important players leave. Orpik & Niskanen probably won't be back. Orpik's getting old & a little beaten up. He'll only be back if he takes a discount to stay. Niskanen had a career year as a pending UFA so he'll want too much money. I'd let him walk rather than paying him big money. Their D is probably going to be much younger next year. Dumoulin, Depres, Harrington, & possibly Pouliot could all be ready for the NHL next year.

I expect to see a lot more toughness in their bottom six forwards. There are rumours that they might look to trade Neal to help with their depth issues. I'm not sure what the rumours are worth though, as they don't have a GM right now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
If the Penguins had Miller years ago, they'd have more Cups to show for it. They need solid goaltending that can win them games. They continue to be successful despite Fleury, not because of.

LOL :D

Thanks for the laughs. Spoken like someone who doesn't know hockey is a team game.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on May 21, 2014, 06:55:29 PM
LOL :D

Thanks for the laughs. Spoken like someone who doesn't know hockey is a team game.

While I doubt that they would of won more cups. Their games would of been lower scoring. Fluery is a terrible post season goalie but a just above average regular season goalie. Not sure what his issue is.
Miller would improve the penguins, but realistically not by much. as Fluery had his best playoff performance this year since the 07-08 season and this season was his worst playoff perormance to date.
Miller has been better playoff performer with a horrible sabers franchise. .maybe he is just regressing due to age? But regardless Miller would have made the penguins a bit better in the past but that time has come and gone.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 21, 2014, 07:03:57 PM
While I doubt that they would of won more cups. Their games would of been lower scoring. Fluery is a terrible post season goalie but a just above average regular season goalie. Not sure what his issue is.
Miller would improve the penguins, but realistically by not by much as Fluery had his best playoff performance since the 07-08 season.  Miller has been better playoff performer with a horrible sabers franchise. This season was his worst playoff perormance to date. maybe he is just regressing due to age? But regardless Miller would have made the penguins a bit better but that time has come and gone.

That's speculative at best. Miller wasn't exactly lights out with the Blues, even though that team having a much better defense than the Sabres.

Besides, it's win as a team, lose as a team. The Penguins have done Fleury no favours in recent years in the playoffs, anyway. They're not exactly built for the post-season, as indicated by their numbers as a whole.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on May 21, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
That's speculative at best. Miller wasn't exactly lights out with the Blues, even though that team having a much better defense than the Sabres.

Besides, it's win as a team, lose as a team. The Penguins have done Fleury no favours in recent years in the playoffs, anyway. They're not exactly built for the post-season, as indicated by their numbers as a whole.

exactly. he had his worst playoff performance to date with the blues. At best the numbers and track record of Miller projects that he would do much better than Fluery with the Penguins*** as the Sabers have been less of an offensive force than the penguins but probably on par defensively. This is known khaleesi.


Fluery is just a bad playoff performer

*** playoffs on my mind




Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 21, 2014, 07:34:20 PM
Fluery is just a bad playoff performer

And the Pens are bad playoff performers as a whole. He's the type of goalie who performs better when his does. But he isn't the only goalie like that.

And he still helped win his team a Stanley Cup. Not exactly a fluke, that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on May 21, 2014, 08:02:25 PM
And the Pens are bad playoff performers as a whole. He's the type of goalie who performs better when his does. But he isn't the only goalie like that.

And he still helped win his team a Stanley Cup. Not exactly a fluke, that.

He was good on the cup run, that is for sure but Malkin and Crosby had a dominating performance which negated the amount of goals he let in. 

Average goalies can be a gift or a curse if the offense isnt clicking. If we can get an average goalie on the Jets we are playoff bound :D



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 21, 2014, 09:35:32 PM
Fleury's GAA during the playoffs was 2.40.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 10:23:08 PM
im betting Fleury remains on the team anyways


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on May 21, 2014, 10:26:07 PM
Pittsbrugh would want to much in return for Fleury


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 10:38:16 PM
they might try to sign a guy like Hiller to light a fire under his butt


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 10:55:07 PM
Pens may be pursuing Pierre McGuire for GM...very hockey smart...and very annoying


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 11:26:50 PM
sounds as though Miller wont be heading out west....the sharks and ducks have both said they arent interested in his services, and of course LA is out of the question....Phoenix might be his best chance


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 21, 2014, 11:44:09 PM
sounds as though Miller wont be heading out west....the sharks and ducks have both said they arent interested in his services, and of course LA is out of the question....Phoenix might be his best chance

Maybe the nucks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 11:56:02 PM
Maybe the nucks.

ya..definite possibility


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 22, 2014, 01:17:04 AM
sounds as though Miller wont be heading out west....the sharks and ducks have both said they arent interested in his services, and of course LA is out of the question....Phoenix might be his best chance

But could the Sharks and Ducks be saying that because Miller isn't an UFA yet and it would be tampering to say they are?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 22, 2014, 01:28:52 AM
From TSN:

VANCOUVER -- The Vancouver Canucks have named Jim Benning as their new general manager.

Benning is the first significant hire made by new Canucks president of hockey operations Trevor Linden, who was handed the franchise's reigns after the team missed the playoffs for the first time in six years following a disastrous 2013-14 campaign.

Benning spent the last eight seasons with the Boston Bruins, including seven as the club's assistant general manager.

A former Canucks defenceman during his playing days, the 51-year-old Benning is the 11th general manager in franchise history -- a post he has never held with an NHL club.

The Edmonton native replaces Mike Gillis, who was fired as Vancouver's president and general manager a day after the club was eliminated from playoff contention with three games left in the regular season.

Benning's first order of business with the Canucks will be to hire a new head coach after Linden axed John Tortorella earlier this month following one tumultuous campaign.

Benning will also have to prepare for next month's NHL draft and assess a roster that Tortorella accused of being "stale" at his end-of-season press conference.

Apart from helping to shape a Bruins team that defeated the Canucks in the 2011 Stanley Cup final, Benning's managerial resume also includes 12 seasons with Buffalo Sabres, with eight of those spent as that club's director of amateur scouting.

Selected sixth overall by the Toronto Maple Leafs in the 1981 NHL draft, Benning played nine seasons with Toronto and Vancouver, collecting 52 goals and 191 assists in 610 career games.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452733 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452733)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 22, 2014, 01:47:49 AM
But could the Sharks and Ducks be saying that because Miller isn't an UFA yet and it would be tampering to say they are?

i dont think so.....but neither team specifically used Miller's name...i think the quote from SJ was that they were not looking to add any veterans and want to continue to rebuild through youth....another source said the Ducks were planning on going with there two youngsters next season.....these of course are just sources, so who knows...rumors and such will start to really ramp up in the next couple of weeks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2014, 12:27:13 PM
im betting Fleury remains on the team anyways

He's not going anywhere.

Pens may be pursuing Pierre McGuire for GM...very hockey smart...and very annoying

Seriously?! LOL :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 22, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
Pens may be pursuing Pierre McGuire for GM...very hockey smart...and very annoying
I'd be ok with that. The guy knows the history & scouting report of every player at every level of hockey. Part of what makes him so annoying is his need to show that off when he's calling a game.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on May 22, 2014, 01:02:45 PM
they might try to sign a guy like Hiller to light a fire under his butt
They couldn't afford to have both of them on the team, unless Hiller took a contract way under market value.

It's tough to say what they'll do with Fleury. He was good to very good in the regular season, but despite his decent playoff numbers he let in a handful of soft goals. If nothing else, trading him would take an excuse away from the rest of the team.


Title: Halak signs a multi year deal with Islanders
Post by: BlueWonder on May 22, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
Jaroslav Halak signed a 4 year contracted worth 18 million.


Title: Re: Halak signs a multi year deal with Islanders
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 22, 2014, 09:36:34 PM
If you look at the pinned threads in this section there is a thread for NHL talk (not Jets) that this news can be posted in. Once you are more familiar with the forum I'm sure you'll get the hang of things on where to post.


Title: Re: Halak signs a multi year deal with Islanders
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 22, 2014, 10:52:43 PM
If you look at the pinned threads in this section there is a thread for NHL talk (not Jets) that this news can be posted in. Once you are more familiar with the forum I'm sure you'll get the hang of things on where to post.

Im glad hes or shes posting.

Keep posting BlueWonder... youll figure things out.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 23, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
Well, at least the ECF won't be a sweep anymore. Big OT win by the Habs last night.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 23, 2014, 02:02:25 PM
Very impressive performance by Tokarski.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 23, 2014, 09:47:07 PM
Proust gets a 2 game suspension for his hit on Stepan and Carcillo got an automatic 10 game suspension for abusing an official.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 23, 2014, 10:05:58 PM
Proust gets a 2 game suspension for his hit on Stepan and Carcillo got an automatic 10 game suspension for abusing an official.
and?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 23, 2014, 11:55:10 PM
and?

And what? The NHL announced those suspensions today.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 26, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
hate to say it these playoffs completely dis interest me now.

I find myself watching Lebron instead


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 26, 2014, 11:36:21 PM
The Caps have announced Brian MacLellan has been promoted to GM and Barry Trotz is the new head coach.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL|NHL|home (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL|NHL|home)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on May 27, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
I'd be ok with that. The guy knows the history & scouting report of every player at every level of hockey. Part of what makes him so annoying is his need to show that off when he's calling a game.
I'm like that when watching games, but thankfully it seems to me that it's appreciated by others when I'm watching, lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 27, 2014, 09:38:04 PM
I'm like that when watching games, but thankfully it seems to me that it's appreciated by others when I'm watching, lol

guess what.....its not  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on May 27, 2014, 09:38:45 PM
The Caps have announced Brian MacLellan has been promoted to GM and Barry Trotz is the new head coach.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL|NHL|home (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL|NHL|home)

Good move by the Caps.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 27, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Good move by the Caps.

see how ovie reacts to the defence first mentality


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 28, 2014, 01:15:41 AM
guess what.....its not  :D

+1. Emrick and McGuire are irritating to listen to during NBC broadcasts. Add Milbury into the mix at intermission and it might as well be the equivalent of legitimate torture.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 29, 2014, 05:35:54 PM
guess what.....its not  :D
LOL oh saxy boy! Thank god I don't watch games with you.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on May 29, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
LOL oh saxy boy! Thank god I don't watch games with you.

why not? i wont be the guy talking through the whole game..."did you know where so and so played junior hockey?"....or the ol "did you know......"

give it a rest  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 30, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
Not even that. He knows what a certain player's favourite food is. Who cares...?

Speaking of who cares, how about those Habs? LOL :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 30, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
Not even that. He knows what a certain player's favourite food is. Who cares...?

Speaking of who cares, how about those Habs? LOL :D
or hab nots lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on May 30, 2014, 11:46:04 PM
Still better than the rest of Canadian teams.  They played well and then just ran into a slightly better team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 31, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
Still better than the rest of Canadian teams.  They played well and then just ran into a slightly better team.

Lost Price.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 31, 2014, 04:38:50 AM
Still better than the rest of Canadian teams.  They played well and then just ran into a slightly better team.

You don't say. ;)

Lost Price.

Which is irrelevant because Tokarski played downright solid in his place. The Habs simply couldn't match the Rangers in terms of consistent offense, quality chances and reliable defensive zone play.

Nice to see the Hawks force game 7. What a series.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: DCM on June 01, 2014, 11:39:03 PM
Wooooooooooooooooo! Chicago holding a 2-1 lead right now in the first period.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2014, 12:54:00 PM
Wooooooooooooooooo! Chicago holding a 2-1 lead right now in the first period.

And they lost. What a hard-fought game, though. Not exactly a pretty goal to give the Kings the win.

The SCF should be a doozy!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 02, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
And they lost. What a hard-fought game, though. Not exactly a pretty goal to give the Kings the win.

The SCF should be a doozy!
I careless about the SCF. Don't think I'll be watching maybe as back ground noise. I am more excited to see the Heat repeat again.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: DCM on June 02, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
I careless about the SCF. Don't think I'll be watching maybe as back ground noise. I am more excited to see the Heat repeat again.
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2014, 11:57:11 PM
I careless about the SCF. Don't think I'll be watching maybe as back ground noise. I am more excited to see the Heat repeat again.

Okay, your loss. The NBA is garbage compared to NHL, IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on June 03, 2014, 02:54:01 PM
the heat are going to the what, there 4 straight finals??? and the Spurs again??? same old same old...are there no other good teams in that entire league??


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 03, 2014, 06:45:37 PM
Okay, your loss. The NBA is garbage compared to NHL, IMO.
takes one to know one.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 03, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
I just like to see LeBron stick it to the man for all the flak he took about "the announcement".

Fun team to watch.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on June 03, 2014, 08:23:02 PM
I just like to see LeBron stick it to the man for all the flak he took about "the announcement".



i dont see how him winning makes him not a douchebag?  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2014, 02:57:44 AM
takes one to know one.

What does that even mean? ???


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 06, 2014, 01:54:17 AM
Patrick Sharp being shopped.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 06, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
Patrick Sharp being shopped.

Oh, he'd be nice in a Jets jersey. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 06, 2014, 03:44:29 PM
Lots of ties to Winnipeg, so it's not really out of the realm of possibility...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 06, 2014, 04:15:01 PM
The Leafs have interest (of course ..) but if I were the Jets I'd seriously take a look and see how much it would take to pry him out of there. Apparently his attitude was not up to standards and some of his teammates were starting to question his place on the team, which is odd because I never thought of Sharp as a 'me first' kind of guy.

Alas, I'd take him in Winnipeg any day of the week. CHI also shopping Nick Leddy and ... Johnny Oduya.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on June 07, 2014, 04:50:20 AM
I just like to see LeBron stick it to the man for all the flak he took about "the announcement".

Fun team to watch.


How did you enjoy watching him get carried off the court after his devastating leg cramp? ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 07, 2014, 02:11:38 PM

How did you enjoy watching him get carried off the court after his devastating leg cramp? ;D
OH, welcome back Fresh one! I didn't enjoy that. I think they turned off the AC to have that happen.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on June 08, 2014, 12:17:01 AM
hours ago .... on a bottom of screen ticker (cannot remember what channel), it was saying
.....  Leafs interested in Thorton
R the Sharks putting out feelers ..... makes sense to me


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on June 08, 2014, 12:21:44 AM
hours ago .... on a bottom of screen ticker (cannot remember what channel), it was saying
.....  Leafs interested in Thorton
R the Sharks putting out feelers ..... makes sense to me

But the question is , what do they have to loose to gain Thornton ?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 08, 2014, 12:27:22 AM
But the question is , what do they have to loose to gain Thornton ?
EVERYTHING!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 11, 2014, 01:38:58 AM
So I have a big update on the "Patrick Sharp Sweepstakes". Winnipeg has put forth interest for the star winger, and the player who Chicago wants back might surprise you:


Andrew Ladd.

Apparently Ladd and Sharp never saw eye-to-eye when they played together, and the Hawks love his grit and leadership qualities. For what it's worth, I would love love love having Sharp here instead of Ladd. Hey, Ladd's a nice dude I get it, but I don't think he should be playing top line minutes -- but Sharp, I do. For all the talk of the Jets moving out Kane, I believe that the Hawks would covet Ladd so much more and if it gets us Patrick Sharp, a possible new face of the franchise, I would consider doing that.


Now, to have some fun, who would be captain if such a thing were to happen? My vote goes to Mark Stuart. Plain and simple.

So, Bomber Nation, what say you?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 11, 2014, 02:17:27 AM
If the rumours about the Hawks players wanting Sharp gone are true, then no thanks. I'd rather have a solid team guy like Ladd than a potential cancer.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 11, 2014, 03:58:10 PM
If the rumours about the Hawks players wanting Sharp gone are true, then no thanks. I'd rather have a solid team guy like Ladd than a potential cancer.

I guess it comes down to why they don't want him, and if you have enough "personality" on your team to make him fit. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 11, 2014, 05:19:23 PM
Gary Lawless has also proposed the possible buy-out of Mike Richards from LA. Richard's is open to the possibility of playing in Winnipeg. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.  ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 11, 2014, 07:56:17 PM
Saw Toews at a restaurant today. Dudes not that big. Little taller same weight as me. He was there alone. I got my signed jersey confirmed from him though. A buddy got to signed for me and just wanted to make sure it was his signature.

He was pleasant.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 12, 2014, 05:58:47 PM
Sharp and Richards would be solid acquisitions, IMO. Some respected and skilled veteran talent would help the stable of prospects and younger players on this team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on June 12, 2014, 06:05:20 PM
kings are apparently not planning to buy out Richards...but i think thats just talk so hes not distracted...im sure they will buy him out...not sure if we would want him though...he would be a 2nd line center here for sure


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 12, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
kings are apparently not planning to buy out Richards...but i think thats just talk so hes not distracted...im sure they will buy him out...not sure if we would want him though...he would be a 2nd line center here for sure

Scheifele, Richards and Little sounds a lot better than Scheifele, Little, and whoever is the third line centre next year, IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on June 12, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
Scheifele, Richards and Little sounds a lot better than Scheifele, Little, and whoever is the third line centre next year, IMO.

well Richards play has certainly gone downhill the last couple of seasons, a change of scenary could help him...and being close to home


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 14, 2014, 03:41:41 AM
Congratulations to the LA Kings.

The playoffs this season have to go down in history as one of the best. Outstanding hockey.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 14, 2014, 04:33:20 AM
That was just magnificent hockey. Spectacular, spectacular hockey. Wow. Congrats to the LA Kings, no team more deserving!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on June 14, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Awesome game last night.

The Kings, like the Hawks, are going to be very hard to knock off the hill for several more years to come.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 15, 2014, 02:06:38 AM
What a game last night! OT in particular was just incredible.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 15, 2014, 07:38:41 AM
The Kings, like the Hawks, are going to be very hard to knock off the hill for several more years to come.

Only if they are able to re-sign key players this year and next.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on June 15, 2014, 02:25:22 PM
Only if they are able to re-sign key players this year and next.

I fully expect them to make the necessary roster adjustments to ensure they are able to re-sign the majority of their core of star players. Add in the depth they have managed to build up and these 2 teams are loaded up for a Detroit Red Wing type of run.

And even worse news for the Jets is... the Blues, Avs, Wild, Ducks, Sharks, and Stars are right behind the top 2 in the West when it comes to team depth.

Chevy + PMo have their work cut out for themselves if they want to make the playoffs in the west any time soon.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on June 15, 2014, 04:00:30 PM
the Kings core is already locked up for at least the next 2 seasons.....Kopitar for 2 seasons, Doughty/Brown/Quick/Carter locked up long term, they only need to worry about Williams and Stoll after next year

If they buy-out Richards they will have plenty of cash to sign them both long term ...especially with the cap rise expected to hit 70mil this season


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on June 15, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Avs file for arbitration with O'Reilly

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454904


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on June 15, 2014, 11:28:21 PM
the Kings core is already locked up for at least the next 2 seasons.....Kopitar for 2 seasons, Doughty/Brown/Quick/Carter locked up long term, they only need to worry about Williams and Stoll after next year

If they buy-out Richards they will have plenty of cash to sign them both long term ...especially with the cap rise expected to hit 70mil this season
The Kings are in good shape going forward. It will be interesting to see what the Hawks will look like after the extensions for Kane & Toews kick in.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 16, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
It will be interesting to see what the Hawks will look like after the extensions for Kane & Toews kick in.

They still have to sign them to extensions.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Canada_44 on June 16, 2014, 04:53:47 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie ? 2h

I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.


But what does he know.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie ? 2h

I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.


But what does he know.

His sense? Okay... And? Perhaps for the right price, the Jets would entertain the idea of trading Kane. McKenzie can speculate on that all he wants, along with the rest of us.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 26, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie ? 2h

I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.


But what does he know.
Im gonna guess not much but pretends to know alot.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on June 27, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
CHI offers Sharp, Rozsival, prospect Adam Clendening and their 1st round pick to FLA for the #1 overall pick and Erik Gudbranson.

Now we wait.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on June 27, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
CHI offers Sharp, Rozsival, prospect Adam Clendening and their 1st round pick to FLA for the #1 overall pick and Erik Gudbranson.

Now we wait.

IF that is the offer, Tallon should just hang up...this offer is an insult.

Ekblad & Goodbrandson are both future top 2 pairing D.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on June 27, 2014, 05:12:04 PM
The Canucks start the re-build by dealing Kesler to the Ducks.

Bonino & ?? Go to Vancouver.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 27, 2014, 10:02:35 PM
The Canucks start the re-build by dealing Kesler to the Ducks.

Bonino & ?? Go to Vancouver.

Sbisa and 24th pick. Nice move the Canucks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on June 30, 2014, 03:29:51 PM
Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  6m
Per @capgeek, the impact of Tim Gleason buyout on #leafs salary cap is: $833,333 next season then $1.83M, $1.33M and $1.33M. (Avg $1.33M)


Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger  23m
"@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Tim Gleason, Anton Volchenkov and Shane O'Brien put on unconditional waivers today". Jovo also cleared.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 12:53:00 PM
we need to sign a Vanek-type player...we're 10 goals shy of making the playoffs  >:(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 02:05:48 PM
Spezza dealt to the Dallas stars


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 03:35:47 PM
Stastny a Blue...4 years @ 7mil ...no surprise


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 03:38:22 PM
Cammalleri a Devil


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Raymond a flame...good signing, got him on the cheap


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Bolland signs with Florida....Leafs losing out on Free Agency Day


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
Leafs may sign Broduer...TSN will hearld them as the Free agency winners!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 04:07:37 PM
Hemsky a Star....Jets left out in the dust...very little chance of making the playoffs as two division teams stack up on offense


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
Miller a canuck..this was expected as well


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 04:10:07 PM
Montoya a Panther..makes way for Hutchinson i suppose


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 04:22:48 PM
Gionta a Sabre


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
not alot left out there...Brad Richards, Vrbata, Derek Roy and Vanek some of the notables.....hoping the Devils get at least one of these guys...likely Richards


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 01, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Vanek to Minni


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
ya...Jets in big trouble this season


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 01, 2014, 04:50:20 PM
Gah the central division is going to be tougher this season. Still some good players on the board though in BRich, Vrbata, Ott and Roy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 05:00:02 PM
Moulson down to the devils and sabres apparently


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 05:06:45 PM
moulsson a sabre


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on July 01, 2014, 05:19:54 PM
my guess ........ Niskanen ends in Detroit


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 01, 2014, 05:30:29 PM
Jerome to Colorado .


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
trading ryder and signing vrbata would really cap this day off for the devils!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 01, 2014, 06:32:35 PM
Jets are in real trouble.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 06:39:09 PM
Jets are in real trouble.

ya...everyone around them seemed to get better


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 01, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
Richards a Blackhawk


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 02, 2014, 12:14:22 AM
Richards a Blackhawk
ugh!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 02:17:21 AM
ugh!

and they got him for a steal...hes no dummy, he wants a chance to win..hes already made his riches


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on July 02, 2014, 02:30:36 AM
Iginla and Redmond to Colorado is music to this Avs fan's ears. Arguably the best top 9 in the league, even after the departure of Stastny. Wooh!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on July 02, 2014, 06:15:31 AM
Some teams may have to have a fire sale to get under the cap. Chicago and Philadelphia are both over now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 11:07:49 AM
from what i see Philly has 7mil in capspace still


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on July 02, 2014, 11:38:02 AM
Capgeek had them a little over $1m over when I looked.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 12:28:46 PM
Capgeek had them a little over $1m over when I looked.

maybe that included Pronger's salary...which comes off the books once the season starts i believe


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 02, 2014, 12:31:07 PM
maybe that included Pronger's salary...which comes off the books once the season starts i believe

http://www.capgeek.com/flyers/

ya it includes Prongers. 4.9 in the math.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 12:34:22 PM
i like the nhlnumbers.com site


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on July 02, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
Crazy to see the ex-Penguin dmen getting those big contracts. Nearly $3M/yr for Engelland? That's crazy. Orpik got paid for his reputation. He's not the player he was a few years ago and he's going downhill fast. His style of play is breaking him down. Niskanen's deal will be ok if he can continue to play like he did last season. It's pretty risky though to pay a guy based on one good year.

The best two contracts were Richards & Ehrhoff. Both guys took way under market value. Two worst contracts were Engelland & Bolland.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
Crazy to see the ex-Penguin dmen getting those big contracts. Nearly $3M/yr for Engelland? That's crazy. Orpik got paid for his reputation. He's not the player he was a few years ago and he's going downhill fast. His style of play is breaking him down. Niskanen's deal will be ok if he can continue to play like he did last season. It's pretty risky though to pay a guy based on one good year.

The best two contracts were Richards & Ehrhoff. Both guys took way under market value. Two worst contracts were Engelland & Bolland.

the booland one is pretty rough...we overpaid slightly for Cammalerri, but lou said if you want something you have to overpay and give longer term..it is what it is

the Wild got a pretty good deal for Vanek...that was his opportunity for a long, bloated contract


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on July 02, 2014, 01:11:07 PM
the booland one is pretty rough...we overpaid slightly for Cammalerri, but lou said if you want something you have to overpay and give longer term..it is what it is

the Wild got a pretty good deal for Vanek...that was his opportunity for a long, bloated contract
Yeah, I didn't think Cammalerri's was very good, but the Havlat deal was ok. Not much money for a potentially decent return.

I was happy to see the Pens re-sign Goc. He's a very good 4th line centre. The Pens really needed bottom six guys who are legit NHLers and they got a couple in Goc & Comeau. Technically Goc was a Pen last year, but he got hurt early and barely played for them. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 02:12:46 PM
Hawks really wanting to trade Sharp...or dump his salary, whatever youd like to call it...trying to get under the cap and make room for 2 gigantic extensions


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 02, 2014, 02:18:25 PM
Philadelphia Flyers star Claude Giroux spent the night in an Ottawa Police cell after an incident involving a police officer, sources tell the Sun.

Although few details were immediately available, a source said Giroux was arrested for repeatedly grabbing the buttocks of a male police officer. Alcohol is believed to have been involved.

The incident occurred at a bar in the Byward Market the source said.

Ottawa Police have refused any comment on the incident. Police said they cannot comment unless charges are laid, but several sources did confirm to the Sun Giroux spent the night in jail.

Sources say he is expected to be released without any criminal charges.

The 26-year-old Giroux was reportedly seen inside a police cruiser in Ottawa sometime around 9 p.m. on July 1. A Twitter post by shaheed09 reads "Claude Giroux in the back of a cop car downtown ottawa". it was posted to Twitter Tuesday at 9:19 p.m.


 :D  oh boy. he is going to get some good razzing in the locker room.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on July 03, 2014, 03:53:15 AM
I guess the cop will get the last laugh as Giroux is going to hear it in the dressing room, on the ice and from the fans.

Please kids learn from this dumb-dumb move.  :-[


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ModAdmin on July 03, 2014, 03:58:11 AM
Philadelphia Flyers star Claude Giroux spent the night in an Ottawa Police cell after an incident involving a police officer, sources tell the Sun.

Although few details were immediately available, a source said Giroux was arrested for repeatedly grabbing the buttocks of a male police officer. Alcohol is believed to have been involved.

The incident occurred at a bar in the Byward Market the source said.

Ottawa Police have refused any comment on the incident. Police said they cannot comment unless charges are laid, but several sources did confirm to the Sun Giroux spent the night in jail.

Sources say he is expected to be released without any criminal charges.

The 26-year-old Giroux was reportedly seen inside a police cruiser in Ottawa sometime around 9 p.m. on July 1. A Twitter post by shaheed09 reads "Claude Giroux in the back of a cop car downtown ottawa". it was posted to Twitter Tuesday at 9:19 p.m.


 :D  oh boy. he is going to get some good razzing in the locker room.

Any guesses what it will be like when he's on the ice?  50x worse, I suspect.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 04, 2014, 05:41:07 PM
Mike Brown, Adam Burish, John Scott, Tye McGinn. If we combine their powers, I think you've got a solid 4th line ECHL player right there.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BlueWonder on July 04, 2014, 11:49:22 PM
David Legwand signed with the Ottawa Senators today.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 09, 2014, 07:29:22 PM
Toews and Kane re-upped by the Hawks:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=456795 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=456795)

The Blackhawks announced Wednesday they had reached eight-year extensions with two of their top performers... Each contract is worth $84 million for an average annual value of $10.5 million


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on July 09, 2014, 09:13:37 PM
Well, Heatley is not signing with the Jets. He took a one year, $1 million deal with the Ducks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 13, 2014, 09:28:26 PM
Do we trade Kane now or during the year which do you think would provide the best return?

I say before the year begins.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 13, 2014, 09:50:20 PM
Do we trade Kane now or during the year which do you think would provide the best return?

I say before the year begins.

Unless the return is beneficial, we'll see Kane suit up for the Jets in a few months.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 13, 2014, 09:57:52 PM
Unless the return is beneficial, we'll see Kane suit up for the Jets in a few months.
i didn't mind all his antics but enoughs enough already. Either the guy has minor mental issues socially or his hottie chick is in his ear about not wanting him playing in winnipeg or both.


Dude can't control what comes out of his mouth.

Let's face it he's an enigma


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 13, 2014, 10:03:47 PM
i didn't mind all his antics but enoughs enough already. Either the guy has minor mental issues socially or his hottie chick is in his ear about not wanting him playing in winnipeg or both.

Dude can't control what comes out of his mouth.

Let's face it he's an enigma

That still doesn't address my point: unless the return is good for the Jets, Cheveldayoff won't trade him unless Kane definitively says he wants out.

He's not the only pro athlete with attitude problems.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 13, 2014, 11:41:46 PM
i didn't mind all his antics but enoughs enough already. Either the guy has minor mental issues socially or his hottie chick is in his ear about not wanting him playing in winnipeg or both.


Dude can't control what comes out of his mouth.

Let's face it he's an enigma

While I'm sure he's tired of dealing with the way Winnipeggers treat him and wouldn't mind a change of scenery, half of what he says/tweets/does seems like he is just screwing with the Winnipeg media.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 13, 2014, 11:51:25 PM
While I'm sure he's tired of dealing with the way Winnipeggers treat him and wouldn't mind a change of scenery, half of what he says/tweets/does seems like he is just screwing with the Winnipeg media.
he ain't screwing with nothing other than his own reputation! We treat him fine. He's is just high maintenance but of a diva.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 14, 2014, 12:10:46 AM
he ain't screwing with nothing other than his own reputation! We treat him fine. He's is just high maintenance but of a diva.

I see him as an extremely talented hockey player, but to each their own.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2014, 12:31:57 PM
he ain't screwing with nothing other than his own reputation! We treat him fine. He's is just high maintenance but of a diva.

Such nonsense, that. He's been targeted by this fanbase since he got here in 2011.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 14, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
Such nonsense, that. He's been targeted by this fanbase since he got here in 2011.

I'd argue it started well before he even got here. I remember him getting hate before the team was even named.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2014, 04:44:39 PM
I'd argue it started well before he even got here. I remember him getting hate before the team was even named.

Fair point. A lot of people seem to find it easy to hate this kid. And that's too bad.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on July 14, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Ya i agree with 84 and Colton. Its a bunch of nonsense.

If Kane was any kind of real problem in the room or anywhere Maurice would have asked Chevy to move him.

I also agree with what Colton said about him screwing with the media.. Kane no doubt likes to be talked about and he likes to feed the fire IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 05:58:44 PM
Ya i agree with 84 and Colton. Its a bunch of nonsense.

I also agree with what Colton said about him screwing with the media.. Kane no doubt likes to be talked about and he likes to feed the fire IMO.
It's not completely nonsense. He's a polarizing guy. "feeding the fire" as you put it is reason enough for some people to not like him. He's making things tougher for his team with some of the things he says/tweets. Favouriting that tweet about Philly may have been nothing but a joke for him, but Chevy probably doesn't find it funny having to answer for it.

A lot of the personal stuff is hard to comment on b/c I have no idea what's true and what isn't.


If Kane was any kind of real problem in the room or anywhere Maurice would have asked Chevy to move him.

Not necessarily. A coach will try much harder to work with somebody they think is a trouble maker if that guy has talent. For example, if Tyler Wright was doing the same things Kane was he wouldn't have lasted very long.

Kane's also been a healthy scratch twice. That has to make you think that he's been at least somewhat of a problem at times.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
It's not completely nonsense. He's a polarizing guy. "feeding the fire" as you put it is reason enough for some people to not like him. He's making things tougher for his team with some of the things he says/tweets. Favouriting that tweet about Philly may have been nothing but a joke for him, but Chevy probably doesn't find it funny having to answer for it.

A lot of the personal stuff is hard to comment on b/c I have no idea what's true and what isn't.
Not necessarily. A coach will try much harder to work with somebody they think is a trouble maker if that guy has talent. For example, if Tyler Wright was doing the same things Kane was he wouldn't have lasted very long.

Kane's also been a healthy scratch twice. That has to make you think that he's been at least somewhat of a problem at times.

All fair and valid points. Kane is a polarizing character and that off-ice stuff seems to get magnified when he or the team isn't doing well on the ice. But who is Tyler Wright...? Do you mean James Wright?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
All fair and valid points. Kane is a polarizing character and that off-ice stuff seems to get magnified when he or the team isn't doing well on the ice. But who is Tyler Wright...? Do you mean James Wright?
I did mean James Wright. Tyler Wright is a retired NHLer.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on July 14, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
It's not completely nonsense. He's a polarizing guy. "feeding the fire" as you put it is reason enough for some people to not like him. He's making things tougher for his team with some of the things he says/tweets. Favouriting that tweet about Philly may have been nothing but a joke for him, but Chevy probably doesn't find it funny having to answer for it.

A lot of the personal stuff is hard to comment on b/c I have no idea what's true and what isn't.
Not necessarily. A coach will try much harder to work with somebody they think is a trouble maker if that guy has talent. For example, if Tyler Wright was doing the same things Kane was he wouldn't have lasted very long.

Kane's also been a healthy scratch twice. That has to make you think that he's been at least somewhat of a problem at times.

Good points.... and your right he is a polarizing guy and hes prolly not to concerned about who likes him and who dont. I cant really say if things he says or tweets make thing tougher on the team but my thought would be if they are it would be dealt with in some manner. I dont think Chevy is to thrilled about things he says and tweets but im sure he knows what hes got with Kane and the things hes going to do and say he will be question about and understands it just something that come with the job sometimes.

I thought when he was a healthy scratch that was under Noel still?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
I did mean James Wright. Tyler Wright is a retired NHLer.

That's what I thought. And yes, he is. I have his Upper Deck "Young Gunz" card. LOL ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 07:53:36 PM


I thought when he was a healthy scratch that was under Noel still?
Once under Noel & once under Maurice. Noel denied he was a healthy scratch though. It was Kane who said that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on July 14, 2014, 08:04:21 PM
Once under Noel & once under Maurice. Noel denied he was a healthy scratch though. It was Kane who said that.

Thx... I remembered it under Noel and now i do remember it under Maurice.... Someone asked him what it would take it get him back on the ice and Maurice asnswer back something like ,,, He needs to show up.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 15, 2014, 02:21:59 AM
kane needs to go


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 15, 2014, 03:52:16 PM
And the Preds just got a little better...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245)

The Nashville Predators added veteran forwards Mike Ribeiro and Derek Roy to one-year deals on Tuesday.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on July 15, 2014, 04:12:15 PM
And the Preds just got a little better...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245)

The Nashville Predators added veteran forwards Mike Ribeiro and Derek Roy to one-year deals on Tuesday.

Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 15, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\

Yeah. The Jets have done the least by a seriously large margin. I really hope Cheveldayoff's got something up his sleeve... :-[


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on July 15, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\
Roy hasn't been very good for a few years now. His best point total in the past four seasons is 44.

IF Ribeiro has his head on straight he could potentially be a good fit playing with Neal. That's a big if though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 17, 2014, 12:25:14 AM
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\

you have to still be aggressive and go out and get players...this "plan" will never get the Jets anywhere


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 19, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Roy hasn't been very good for a few years now. His best point total in the past four seasons is 44.

IF Ribeiro has his head on straight he could potentially be a good fit playing with Neal. That's a big if though.

in regards to ribeiro. He will dish the puck to Neal all day. He had his worst season last year which produced 47 pts and which would be top 5 in production for the Jets. the season before he produced over a point per game with washington. Ribeiro is a steal for what Dallas got him for. He doesnt need his head to be on straight to be an impact for some reason which is mind blowing.

I am not at all saying he would fit in with our team at all, but man did Dallas get a great bargin which will produce fantastic results for 1 mill.  I cant believe we gave that plug Thorburn 1.2 for 3 years lmao. Its not a horrible contract but still lol.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on July 19, 2014, 08:01:36 PM
in regards to ribeiro. He will dish the puck to Neal all day. He had his worst season last year which produced 47 pts and which would be top 5 in production for the Jets. the season before he produced over a point per game with washington. Ribeiro is a steal for what Dallas got him for. He doesnt need his head to be on straight to be an impact for some reason which is mind blowing.

I am not at all saying he would fit in with our team at all, but man did Dallas get a great bargin which will produce fantastic results for 1 mill.  I cant believe we gave that plug Thorburn 1.2 for 3 years lmao. Its not a horrible contract but still lol.

I think you mean Nashville. Their signing of Roy, Ribeiro, and Jokinen should help them this year, and further ease Forsberg and Wilson into the fold.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 19, 2014, 08:03:04 PM
I think you mean Nashville. Their signing of Roy, Ribeiro, and Jokinen should help them this year, and further ease Forsberg and Wilson into the fold.

Lol yes my bad. Was thinking of when Riberio and Neal playing together on the Stars a few years back and how they were pretty good together. at 1m for Riberio and Neal to be reunited again, disher and sniper.........thats pretty nice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 19, 2014, 09:37:02 PM
Lol yes my bad. Was thinking of when Riberio and Neal playing together on the Stars a few years back and how they were pretty good together. at 1m for Riberio and Neal to be reunited again, disher and sniper.........thats pretty nice.

If he doesn't change his attitude, the Preds payed $1M to bring a massive distraction into their locker room.

I hate Ribeiro so my opinion on the matter is heavily biased, but you have to factor in that he was just bought out by a team that isn't facing any sort of cap issues.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 19, 2014, 09:59:18 PM
If he doesn't change his attitude, the Preds payed $1M to bring a massive distraction into their locker room.

I hate Ribeiro so my opinion on the matter is heavily biased, but you have to factor in that he was just bought out by a team that isn't facing any sort of cap issues.

1 million for a gamble on 40 points plus, a PP quarterback and a guy who may be able to dish Neal the puck imo is a decent trade off.  If he doesnt pan out then you bury him in the AHL with no real worries about his salary at all.

I dont mind him. I have watched him play for quiet a while and enjoy his game on the ice. The guy is slick, can play hard and be a bit of a pest when he wants.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on July 28, 2014, 08:17:06 PM
[TOR] Maple Leafs Sign F Daniel Winnik [1 year]
1.3 Mill or something in that ball park.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on August 03, 2014, 12:38:28 AM
8 years 72 mil for Subban?  Ouch...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on August 03, 2014, 04:11:16 AM
Subban got what seemed the proper rate for a "super star".
Good luck to him & mgt., should he falter & just be average in too many games.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on August 03, 2014, 04:49:36 AM
9 mil a year?  Is there anyone who gets more? 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 03, 2014, 05:38:56 AM
9 mil a year?  Is there anyone who gets more? 

Ovechkin (9.54) and Malkin(9.5) make more annual average.

In terms of actual salary, he'll make 7 million this year, and as much as 11M a year in a few years. The highest yearly salary belongs to Weber with 14M from 2012 to 2016


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on August 03, 2014, 07:48:14 PM
after next season both Kane and Toews will be highest


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on August 07, 2014, 01:32:04 PM
holy some team in Finland is offering Selanne 10mil to play next season....5mil just to play home games  :o


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 07, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
holy some team in Finland is offering Selanne 10mil to play next season....5mil just to play home games  :o

I don't believe that was true.

https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fkhl%2F2014080718550263_jr.shtml&edit-text=&act=url


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on August 07, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
I don't believe that was true.

https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fkhl%2F2014080718550263_jr.shtml&edit-text=&act=url

dont know...got my info off the internet just like you


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 07, 2014, 08:34:25 PM
dont know...got my info off the internet just like you

From what I read the rumour came from a tabloid. I'll take the word of Jukka Kohonen over a tabloid.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on August 07, 2014, 09:51:57 PM
the word i got was from the Score


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on September 22, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
we will see over the next week or so if Tootoo still has game and can crack the Devils line-up


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 06, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
Johansen signs extension with Blue Jackets:

http://www.tsn.ca/blue-jackets-johansen-agree-to-terms-on-three-year-12m-contract-1.100225 (http://www.tsn.ca/blue-jackets-johansen-agree-to-terms-on-three-year-12m-contract-1.100225)

The Columbus Blue Jackets announced on Monday that they have agreed to terms on a three-year, $12 million contract with restricted free agent forward Ryan Johansen.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on October 06, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
Real good deal for Columbus ....... cuz I believe this player is only to get better.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 07, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
Real good deal for Columbus ....... cuz I believe this player is only to get better.

so sick of hearing about this guy like he is the 2nd coming of ******...he better win the rocket richard trophy this year for all the attention he recieved...also im not so sure Columbus would have made a deal with him...i think they panicked with 3 of there stars out of the line up ...Dubinksy, Jenner and Horton are all sidelined...hope this kid has an amazing season, cause alot of eyes will be on him..no pressure


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 07, 2014, 08:02:45 PM
Devils have signed Tootoo to a 1 one year deal..thats 3 Manitobans on NJ's roster  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on October 09, 2014, 01:47:05 AM
my guess is that the jets would be thrilled if they were able to sign Johanson for 4M per.
He may never reach the elevated stats of the top 10 - 15 players until some of the other young players with Columbus can also excel....
...... but guessing he is good for 65 - 75 pts this year.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 09, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
Johansen will be fine. The Jackets could surprise the league this year, IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 09, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
Johansen will be fine. The Jackets could surprise the league this year, IMO.

they already did last year....and possibly this year had there injuries not already mounted up


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 11, 2014, 05:26:12 PM
all 30 teams in action tonight....GO DEVILS!!! 8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on October 11, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
Devils already have 5 goals tonight ........ offensive power this year ????


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 11, 2014, 11:58:45 PM
Devils already have 5 goals tonight ........ offensive power this year ????
apparently....11 goals in 2 games  :o  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2014, 03:36:26 AM
they already did last year....and possibly this year had there injuries not already mounted up

Well, they're doing alright so far.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 12, 2014, 05:03:00 AM
Well, they're doing alright so far.

yup..off to a good start


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 05:09:46 PM
took 7 periods for the Avs to score there first goal....nice :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 13, 2014, 05:16:34 PM
took 7 periods for the Avs to score there first goal....nice :)

LOL   As much as i like it.... it wont continue.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
LOL   As much as i like it.... it wont continue.

no...i just want to see Roy loose his cool...and they clearly are missing Stastny


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 13, 2014, 05:28:30 PM
no...i just want to see Roy loose his cool...and they clearly are missing Stastny

HA

Ya they are.... they have alot of fire power for sure. I hope they struggle but im not betting on it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
HA

Ya they are.... they have alot of fire power for sure. I hope they struggle but im not betting on it.

another loss today would be perfect


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 13, 2014, 05:34:11 PM
another loss today would be perfect

Ya..

I dont think Boston is going to do well this year. Have a feeling this will be a bad year for them.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 05:48:45 PM
Ya..

I dont think Boston is going to do well this year. Have a feeling this will be a bad year for them.

the best thing they got going is Bergeron and Rask


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 15, 2014, 03:30:35 AM
Devils knock off the lightning...what a great start to the season  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 22, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
Devils lose to there rivals NY.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 22, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
Senators - Leafs game postponed due to events in Ottawa today:

http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-senators-game-postponed-after-shootings-in-ottawa-1.113197 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-senators-game-postponed-after-shootings-in-ottawa-1.113197)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 22, 2014, 10:12:50 PM
no surprise there



Still feel for the people whom it truly effected.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 22, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
no surprise there



Still feel for the people whom it truly effected.

Absolutely. Scary, scary stuff.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2014, 01:40:21 PM
Devils defenseman Damon Severson is tied for first in the rookie scoring race...lots of positives this early in the season


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on October 29, 2014, 01:05:21 PM
Devils defenseman Damon Severson is tied for first in the rookie scoring race...lots of positives this early in the season

Jets vs. Devils time!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
Not only was this a penalty for the Wings, it also negated a goal for the Wings:

http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat (http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat)

Absolutely unbelievable.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 29, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
Not only was this a penalty for the Wings, it also negated a goal for the Wings:

http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat (http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat)

Absolutely unbelievable.

I don't feel sorry for them whatsoever after last seasons goal against LA.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2014, 11:19:49 PM
I don't feel sorry for them whatsoever after last seasons goal against LA.

Ah, such sound logic. ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 29, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
Ah, such sound logic. ::)

Do you want me to grieve for their lost goal or something?

They had a bad call go against them. Boo hoo, welcome to the NHL.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2014, 11:59:13 PM
Do you want me to grieve for their lost goal or something?

They had a bad call go against them. Boo hoo, welcome to the NHL.

No. Chill out, man. ::)

And it was a really bad call. I was just pointing it out. Sheesh.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 30, 2014, 12:05:30 AM
No. Chill out, man. ::)

And it was a really bad call. I was just pointing it out. Sheesh.

As I was just pointing out they had a really bad call go their way last season.

You didn't have to get all sarcastic about it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2014, 12:08:25 AM
As I was just pointing out they had a really bad call go their way last season.

You didn't have to get all sarcastic about it.

Who cares what happened last season...? How is it relevant to this one?

Sure I did. It's just a sport. Sarcasm is fun. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 30, 2014, 12:15:48 AM
Who cares what happened last season...? How is it relevant to this one?

Sure I did. It's just a sport. Sarcasm is fun. ;D

I was stating my own personal opinion that I don't feel sorry for them because they had a similar situation unfairly go in their advantage last season. Some people like to call it karma. I don't understand what was so wrong about what I said or why it's irrelevant ???


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
I was stating my own personal opinion that I don't feel sorry for them because they had a similar situation unfairly go in their advantage last season. Some people like to call it karma. I don't understand what was so wrong about what I said or why it's irrelevant ???

I didn't say it was wrong or that you had to feel sorry. I just don't how it's "karma" or how last season has any bearing in what happens this season regarding a bad penalty and disallowed goal.

No need to get defensive. I wasn't attacking you. :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 30, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
Hopefully Jets win and we can all jump on the "Angry One". :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on October 30, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
I didn't say it was wrong or that you had to feel sorry. I just don't how it's "karma" or how last season has any bearing in what happens this season regarding a bad penalty and disallowed goal.

No need to get defensive. I wasn't attacking you. :-\
Possibly the strangest argument I've ever read.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2014, 01:01:33 PM
Possibly the strangest argument I've ever read.

And that's saying a lot on this forum! ;D

Big win for the Red Wings last night. And I must say the Predators look like a solid team this season.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on October 30, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
That disallowed goal last night really was awful. It wasn't even that close that at least one of the officials couldn't have seen what happened.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on October 31, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
The Flyers equipment guy pranked his team.  :D

http://video.flyers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=658641


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 17, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
Hopefully Jets win and we can all jump on the "Angry One". :D

we will see what happens tomorrow...got my tickets!!

so far my record when I attend Devils games is 2-2  :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
we will see what happens tomorrow...got my tickets!!

so far my record when I attend Devils games is 2-2  :-\

You're like the Kevin Glenn of Devils fans, eh. ;D

Anyways, this has been a really exciting season so far. Lots of fun games already and we're barely 20 games in.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 06, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
wow..nobody mentioned marty playing for another team?  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 06, 2014, 06:30:39 PM
wow..nobody mentioned marty playing for another team?  :P

Seems nobody gives a rats arse.   LOL

How them Devils doing?  Oh wait.....  Nobody care bout that either.

 ;D ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 06, 2014, 06:34:47 PM
Seems nobody gives a rats arse.   LOL

How them Devils doing?  Oh wait.....  Nobody care bout that either.

 ;D ;)

well..it was quite the buzz in the hockey world...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 06, 2014, 06:37:18 PM
well..it was quite the buzz in the hockey world...

Blah.... Not really.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 06, 2014, 06:38:47 PM
Blah.... Not really.

oh...i didnt realize you were at the epi center of the hockey world lol ...noone was talking about it at the Fox&Hound so it doesnt matter?  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 06, 2014, 07:03:09 PM
oh...i didnt realize you were at the epi center of the hockey world lol ...noone was talking about it at the Fox&Hound so it doesnt matter?  :D

LMAO.

Check with me first next time.   ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on December 06, 2014, 08:44:57 PM
This is absolutely brutal.

Quote
Jonathan Bernier in the receiving line at a Nelson Mandela Foundation event The Giant of Africa

    Reporter1 (SportsNet mic): Alright Jonathan, how important is, uh, the legacy of Nelson Mandela to you?

    JB: Well obviously he's been, uh, a tremendous, uh, athlete and you know obviously what, uh, he means to all the sports you know when you know the worl- the world can uh be changed by the sports it's pretty amazing. And I think he's definitely uh got a lot of respect in every sports and uh he's definitely one of the athletes I watched growing up as well.

Reporter1's mic disappears from frame

    Reporter2: Why is it important for you to come show support tonight?

    JB: Well I think any good cause is, uh, sorry (he's apologizing to someone to the left of the screen, not sure who/why), it's always, uh, you know I love supporting, uh, any kind of cause obviously it's for the Afri-, in Africa it's obviously it's, uh, a great cause, and enjoying, I guess, the basketball game.

    Reporter2: Thanks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 07, 2014, 07:54:35 PM
no hockey player should ever be interviewed for anything ever...they are the worst


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on December 08, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
I don't understand what the issue is. Don't you all also have fond memories watching Mandela nail 3-pointers and, uh, home runs when you were kids?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on December 08, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Ottawa Senators fired Paul MacLean today.

An NHL coach finally has been fired, and the name is a bit of a surprise.

The Ottawa Senators announced on Twitter Monday that they had fired Paul MacLean. No replacement was immediately announced.

His Senators are a .500 team and just rallied from a 3-0 deficit on Sunday to beat the Vancouver Canucks 4-3 in overtime.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/senators/2014/12/08/paul-maclean-fired-ottawa-senators/20095021/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on December 08, 2014, 05:28:04 PM
I'd be thrilled if he replaced McLellan right now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2014, 09:32:09 PM
I don't understand what the issue is. Don't you all also have fond memories watching Mandela nail 3-pointers and, uh, home runs when you were kids?

LOLOLOL :D

I'd be thrilled if he replaced McLellan right now.

I can't believe the Sharks lost to the Oilers last night.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on December 08, 2014, 09:43:13 PM
I can't believe the Sharks lost to the Oilers last night.

I put money on the Oilers beating the Sharks for their first Western Conference win about 2 and a half weeks ago. I was very confident it would happen.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 08, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
why is Bettman so hell bent on expanding to Las Vegas  :D :D in some respects hes been a great commissioner...but i dont get this idea at all


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2014, 10:08:41 PM
This is not a time for expansion, IMO. It's time to relocate the failing franchises already.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 08, 2014, 10:11:44 PM
This is not a time for expansion, IMO. It's time to relocate the failing franchises already.

agreed...Florida and Arizona need to go....move the Coyotes to Canada already...i am sick of hearing about them!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2014, 10:54:10 PM
Panthers to QC, Coyotes to Seattle or something.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 08, 2014, 11:07:47 PM
Panthers to QC, Coyotes to Seattle or something.
ya....i heard the people in Quebec dont quite have there act together just yet...but there close


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on December 09, 2014, 02:15:36 PM
ya....i heard the people in Quebec dont quite have there act together just yet...but there close

Any word on the state of the arena they're building? What about the one in Markham?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Stretch on December 09, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Any word on the state of the arena they're building? What about the one in Markham?

I believe the QC arena is supposed to be done late 2015. I thought I heard that the Markham arena deal fell through, but not 100% sure on that one.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
this could very well be Lou's last season  :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
this could very well be Lou's last season  :'(

Anything good in the system?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:41:54 PM
Anything good in the system?

well... pretty much our whole D corps is between 22-25 yrs old and they locked up our goalie, so in that end of the ice, things look optimistic...not alot in terms of forwards...a few guys here and there


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
well... pretty much our whole D corps is between 22-25 yrs old and they locked up our goalie, so in that end of the ice, things look optimistic...not alot in terms of forwards...a few guys here and there

When i first heard about that 300mil dept or whatever it was i kinda wondered if that would somehow effect the team


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:47:03 PM
When i first heard about that 300mil dept or whatever it was i kinda wondered if that would somehow effect the team

thats had nothing to do with it...the Devils have thrown money at numerous players


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
thats had nothing to do with it...the Devils have thrown money at numerous players

Not the right ones it seems.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:49:04 PM
Not the right ones it seems.

no...there have been a few mistakes for sure..its been difficult to replace 2 NHL stars in Kovalchuk and Parise...they've never been able to replace them


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
but i guess we will see this off-season if Lou has anything left....hes already in the HOF and is creditied with building one of the most successful franchises in the NHL over the past 20 years, and that wasnt by fluke lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:52:43 PM
no...there have been a few mistakes for sure..its been difficult to replace 2 NHL stars in Kovalchuk and Parise...they've never been able to replace them

Ya

I find it hard to believe tho that that 300mil thing didnt somehow effect the team. Thats alot of cash to absorb without it having some effect.

Who knows.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Ya

I find it hard to believe tho that that 300mil thing didnt somehow effect the team. Thats alot of cash to absorb without it having some effect.

Who knows.

but they've spent right up to the Cap limit..so what could it have affected?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
but i guess we will see this off-season if Lou has anything left....hes already in the HOF and is creditied with building one of the most successful franchises in the NHL over the past 20 years, and that wasnt by fluke lol

Maybe its time to change it up.

Hes done well no doubt about it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
Maybe its time to change it up.

Hes done well no doubt about it.

im thinking so ....it will be nice for the team to shred a bunch of salary at the end of this season ....start fresh


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:56:34 PM
but they've spent right up to the Cap limit..so what could it have affected?

Holy...  I just looked at the roster ... Thats messed up if thats what hes spent up to the cap on.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:59:02 PM
im thinking so ....it will be nice for the team to shred a bunch of salary at the end of this season ....start fresh

What the hell did he spend that money on?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
Holy...  I just looked at the roster ... Thats messed up if thats what hes spent up to the cap on.

oh..its not pretty....some of those guys...Clowe, Ryder were signed when the NHL as a whole spent a record amount of money during the FA period, so it wasnt just Lou being stupid, he took achance on a couple of players and had to pay top price because the market demanded that...they just didnt work....Ryder wont be resigned and Clowe is pretty much done


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:01:42 PM
What the hell did he spend that money on?

well..Jagr and Zidlicky make almost 9 million between the two of them, including bonuses....Clowe makes nearly 5mil, and Ryder is in at 3.5...Salvador wont be resinged and he makes around 3mil...so thats like 20 mil that will be gone after the season lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:03:05 PM
oh..its not pretty....some of those guys...Clowe, Ryder were signed when the NHL as a whole spent a record amount of money during the FA period, so it wasnt just Lou being stupid, he took achance on a couple of players and had to pay top price because the market demanded that...they just didnt work....Ryder wont be resigned and Clowe is pretty much done

Wont have to trade them?



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
well..Jagr and Zidlicky make almost 9 million between the two of them, including bonuses....Clowe makes nearly 5mil, and Ryder is in at 3.5...Salvador wont be resinged and he makes around 3mil...so thats like 20 mil that will be gone after the season lol

Thats a ton o cash for nuffin.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
Wont have to trade them?



you want them?  :D clowe is out with another concussion...like his 5 in the past couple of years...im thinking he needs to retire..someone might want Ryder for a 2nd or 3rd rounder  :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:06:15 PM
Thats a ton o cash for nuffin.

well...Jagr is still a beast...and last season Zidlicky had a good year, but hes trailed off now


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:13:51 PM
you want them?  :D clowe is out with another concussion...like his 5 in the past couple of years...im thinking he needs to retire..someone might want Ryder for a 2nd or 3rd rounder  :-\

Good grief... No thanks.

Ill take our roster over that lot any day.

Even Kane must be lookin pretty good to you bout now.... :D ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
Good grief... No thanks.

Ill take our roster over that lot any day.

Even Kane must be lookin pretty good to you bout now.... :D ;D

ha....no way!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:30:09 PM
ha....no way!

LOL  You have to give up your top 2 guys and every 1st n 2nd round pick for him.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
LOL  You have to give up your top 2 guys and every 1st n 2nd round pick for him.

and that would make zero sense lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 05:00:20 PM
and that would make zero sense lol

So does spending up to the cap on that roster but it was done.  ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 09:24:21 PM
So does spending up to the cap on that roster but it was done.  ;D

well...things happen  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 15, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Dallas Eakins gets fired, Edmonton unveils new logo:

(https://seventytwoeleven.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/oilers.jpg)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 15, 2014, 09:31:53 PM
Dallas Eakins gets fired, Edmonton unveils new logo:

(https://seventytwoeleven.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/oilers.jpg)

Ha

Nice dude.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 16, 2014, 01:46:00 AM
Poor Eakins  apparently he had multiple offers and opted to the lowly Oil :'(

MacTavish is an idiot


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 16, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
MacTavish is an idiot

Yes, he is. He should've resigned immediately after canning Eakins.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on December 26, 2014, 06:04:42 PM
Devils fired their coach


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 26, 2014, 07:22:17 PM
Devils fired their coach

Lamoriello trying to save his own hide... Grinch move a day after Christmas.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 26, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
Lamoriello trying to save his own hide... Grinch move a day after Christmas.

the best xmas present i could get :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 26, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
the best xmas present i could get :)

They should hire Eakins.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 26, 2014, 10:20:46 PM
They should hire Eakins.

ya right!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 26, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
ya right!

LOL......  Torts?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 26, 2014, 10:24:35 PM
LOL......  Torts?

negative...i would rather have Eakins...Lou would never put up with Tort's shenanigans


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 26, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
negative...i would rather have Eakins...Lou would never put up with Tort's shenanigans

Whats your guess as to who?

Paul MacLean might be good there.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 26, 2014, 10:29:42 PM
Whats your guess as to who?

Paul MacLean might be good there.

honestly i really have no clue....twitter was swirling with rumors...Oates/MacLean/Bylsma have been thrown around...even Lemaires name lol....maybe Lou just finishes off the year behind the bench  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2014, 12:03:38 AM
Noel is doing great in Van...  does he get another HC look?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 27, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
Noel is doing great in Van...  does he get another HC look?

hopefully not with the Devils


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 27, 2014, 03:42:45 AM
rumors are that its Maclean...but thats not confirmed


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 27, 2014, 02:39:04 PM
Lou is going back behind the bench, with Oates coaching forwards and Stevens coaching defense....we now have the first ever in the NHL, offensive and defensive coordinators  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on December 27, 2014, 07:52:39 PM
Lou & a new unique step in his legacy ..... the 3 headed monster coaching staff .... with of course, he & his ego at the middle

Just my thought for some time but Devils needed to move Lou out for a number of years


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 27, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
Lou & a new unique step in his legacy ..... the 3 headed monster coaching staff .... with of course, he & his ego at the middle

Just my thought for some time but Devils needed to move Lou out for a number of years

maybe...but its tough to argue with his track record...the drafting hasnt been great lately tho


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on December 31, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
John Tavares is a nice guy.

It was all smiles at the Fairmont Hotel in Winnipeg on Wednesday morning as 12-year-old Jake Lotocki met his hockey hero John Tavares, captain of the New York Islanders.

Jake and his mother Sue had gone to a Jets game in March and Jake wore his Islanders jersey to the game which New York won.

After the Jets lost, he was bombarded by fans yelling in his face for supporting the Islanders and Jake ended up taking off his jersey and wrapping it up as he left the MTS Centre.

Tavares heard about what happened and felt he had to do something so he got in touch with the Islanders communications department and arranged to have an autographed jersey sent to Jake.


http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-boy-meets-hockey-hero-after-taunts-from-jets-fans-1.2167973


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
John Tavares is a nice guy.

It was all smiles at the Fairmont Hotel in Winnipeg on Wednesday morning as 12-year-old Jake Lotocki met his hockey hero John Tavares, captain of the New York Islanders.

Jake and his mother Sue had gone to a Jets game in March and Jake wore his Islanders jersey to the game which New York won.

After the Jets lost, he was bombarded by fans yelling in his face for supporting the Islanders and Jake ended up taking off his jersey and wrapping it up as he left the MTS Centre.

Tavares heard about what happened and felt he had to do something so he got in touch with the Islanders communications department and arranged to have an autographed jersey sent to Jake.


http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-boy-meets-hockey-hero-after-taunts-from-jets-fans-1.2167973

An awesome story and classy move by Tavares.

Shame on the "fans" who harassed this kid.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2015, 05:09:48 PM
David Perron gets dealt to the Penguins for a first rounder and Rob Klinkhammer.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 02, 2015, 06:24:15 PM
David Perron gets dealt to the Penguins for a first rounder and Rob Klinkhammer.

another wasted first rounder for the Oilers


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on January 02, 2015, 10:53:25 PM
David Perron gets dealt to the Penguins for a first rounder and Rob Klinkhammer.

Good deal by a team with a shot at winning the East. This gives Crosby or Malkin a winger with pure offensive skills, and that could be a Pen for a long time.

For the Oilers, Klinkhammer provides size and some offensive potential if he can get his game together. And if they get their scouting in order they could score big with that 1st round pick in what looks to be a very deep 1st round.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 06, 2015, 01:24:19 PM
Leafs fire Carlyle   


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 06, 2015, 03:40:01 PM
Leafs fire Carlyle   

That organization is a joke.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on January 06, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
That organization is a joke.

Less so now with Carlyle out, unless of course they replace him with someone equally as incompetent, which is always possible.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 06, 2015, 03:43:13 PM
Less so now with Carlyle out, unless of course they replace him with someone equally as incompetent, which is always possible.

Meh... More incompetence in that organization than just the now fired coach.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 06, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
Kitty out I'm sure he is ok with that! Lick lick!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 01:27:37 AM
Elias records his 1000th NHL point tonight  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 07, 2015, 01:33:41 AM
Elias records his 1000th NHL point tonight  8)
who's Elieas?

Devils should sign Kitty lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 01:35:58 AM
who's Elieas?

Devils should sign Kitty lol

whos kitty?  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 07, 2015, 01:37:29 AM
whos kitty?  :D
an old crusty hockey guy  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 01:38:29 AM
an old crusty hockey guy  :D

we've met our quota  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 07, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
we've met our quota  :P
something he has I common with Lou Lou eh


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2015, 02:06:16 AM
Bit of liquor n smoke and it all makes sense


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 02:06:50 AM
Bit of liquor n smoke and it all makes sense

really...cause i dont know what the heck is going on  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2015, 02:09:41 AM
really...cause i dont know what the heck is going on  :D

Pffft   

Wait.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 07, 2015, 03:38:35 PM
Anyone not see the Kessel interview where he is asked if he is difficult to coach, and he asks the reporter if he thinks its his fault Carlyle got fired, and kept repeating "Is that what your asking?" and then called the reporter an idiot...  that's Toronto media, can you imagine if someone like Lawless had been there?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on January 07, 2015, 05:59:59 PM
Kessel's hissy-fit was hilarious, but it's got nothing on the Minnesota Wild coach, who went postal on the team at practice this morning.

The day after a heartbreaking overtime loss to the conference-rival San Jose Sharks and the very day Vegas pegged him as a head coach on the hot seat, Mike Yeo snapped on the Minnesota Wild.

According to a series of tweets from Wild beat reporter Micheal Russo, Yeo halted practice Wednesday to tear into his team, which has lost eight of its last 10 games.

He then reportedly made the players bag-skate, then slammed his stick, screamed and stormed off the ice.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/minnesota-wild-mike-yeo-coach-loses-it-practice-hot-seat/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 07, 2015, 06:15:13 PM
Kessel's hissy-fit was hilarious, but it's got nothing on the Minnesota Wild coach, who went postal on the team at practice this morning.

The day after a heartbreaking overtime loss to the conference-rival San Jose Sharks and the very day Vegas pegged him as a head coach on the hot seat, Mike Yeo snapped on the Minnesota Wild.

According to a series of tweets from Wild beat reporter Micheal Russo, Yeo halted practice Wednesday to tear into his team, which has lost eight of its last 10 games.

He then reportedly made the players bag-skate, then slammed his stick, screamed and stormed off the ice.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/minnesota-wild-mike-yeo-coach-loses-it-practice-hot-seat/

Bahahahaha... Good. Good. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 07, 2015, 06:36:48 PM
Jim Toth ‏@JimTothSports
After talking about the Phil Kessel "idiot" comment yesterday I asked #NHLJets Ladd if he knew any idiots "Just one..." #TheDanceContinues


Hmmm... wonder who that could be...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on January 07, 2015, 08:35:20 PM
More fuel for the Kessel fire.  :D

(The fact that there's 296+ comments says a lot too  :D )

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-trading-phil-kessel-is-the-key-to-a-maple-leafs-rebuild/article22324810/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 07, 2015, 08:53:35 PM
More fuel for the Kessel fire.  :D

(The fact that there's 296+ comments says a lot too  :D )

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-trading-phil-kessel-is-the-key-to-a-maple-leafs-rebuild/article22324810/
That's just some hosers opinion though right?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 07, 2015, 09:32:17 PM
Air Canada @AirCanada 
Agreed > Kelly: Trading Phil Kessel is the key to the overdue rebuild of Maple Leafs fw.to/A6r9U2V


Great response from Turner...

randy turner ‏@randyturner15
I would never question @AirCanada's approval of the #Leafs trading Phil Kessel. These people are experts at making baggage disappear.


Love the retraction:

Air Canada @AirCanada 
Sorry for our earlier mistweet #ACHeartsKessel #SomeOfUsAreHabsFans Veuillez nous excuser pour l'erreur commise un peu plus t?t aujourd'hui


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 08, 2015, 12:08:37 AM
Really...? Trading away one star forward with defensive issues and who's perhaps a coach killer is all that ails the Maple Leafs from being a better team...?

 ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 08, 2015, 08:19:43 PM
HA


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 08, 2015, 10:04:13 PM
HA
lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 12, 2015, 02:36:07 PM
Really...? Trading away one star forward with defensive issues and who's perhaps a coach killer is all that ails the Maple Leafs from being a better team...?

 ::)

I think that his trade value is pretty low right now, but if they could get any value for him, it would be a huge step to changing the culture.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 21, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Toronto and the jersey issue is bugging me. 

Throwing anything on the ice during play should be harshly punished, its a player safety thing.  No question about that.

But, throwing a jersey on the ice in protest and disappointment, when it does not endanger players, seems to me to be a valid protest.  Yes, fans should celebrate their teams, but they should also be able to protest them.  Invoking a one year ban on "fans" that throw jersey's on the ice is kinda funny, though.  Might actually be doing the fan a favor, saving him from buying tickets to watch a horrible team.

It is a sad thing when a team sinks to this level of fan appreciation.   It hasn't been for a lack of spending, or a lack of effort to try and get better.  Its just a frustrating failure of their efforts.  And you can see it in the team, and their play.  Usually a coaching change brings new wind into a teams sails.  Not so in Toronto. 

They need a change of culture.  A big trade or a wholesale change of the lines, something needs to be done, and quick.  Maybe even as much as Shannahan firing Nonis and taking over.   But to keep on this path, well...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 21, 2015, 08:26:06 PM
Heh.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on January 21, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
Toronto and the jersey issue is bugging me. 

Throwing anything on the ice during play should be harshly punished, its a player safety thing.  No question about that.

But, throwing a jersey on the ice in protest and disappointment, when it does not endanger players, seems to me to be a valid protest.  Yes, fans should celebrate their teams, but they should also be able to protest them.  Invoking a one year ban on "fans" that throw jersey's on the ice is kinda funny, though.  Might actually be doing the fan a favor, saving him from buying tickets to watch a horrible team.

It is a sad thing when a team sinks to this level of fan appreciation.   It hasn't been for a lack of spending, or a lack of effort to try and get better.  Its just a frustrating failure of their efforts.  And you can see it in the team, and their play.  Usually a coaching change brings new wind into a teams sails.  Not so in Toronto. 

They need a change of culture.  A big trade or a wholesale change of the lines, something needs to be done, and quick.  Maybe even as much as Shannahan firing Nonis and taking over.   But to keep on this path, well...


Is this a thing?

I completely agree with your take on it though. If the ice is clear of players/officials, throwing your jersey is a valid protest.

Not one I would do, as I think it's dumb to throw money away like that, and I'm not one to really boo my team, but people certainly have the right to do it as long as it's not a safety issue.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on January 21, 2015, 09:19:01 PM
I completely agree with your take on it though. If the ice is clear of players/officials, throwing your jersey is a valid protest.

The ice wasn't clear of players/officials when the jerseys were thrown. During the Carolina game, jerseys were thrown on the ice 4 times - twice was play was still going on. During the Nashville game, a jersey was thrown while play was on as well.

But, throwing a jersey on the ice in protest and disappointment, when it does not endanger players, seems to me to be a valid protest.  Yes, fans should celebrate their teams, but they should also be able to protest them.  Invoking a one year ban on "fans" that throw jersey's on the ice is kinda funny, though.  Might actually be doing the fan a favor, saving him from buying tickets to watch a horrible team.

It is more than a 1 year ban from Leafs games - they are banned from any property owned by MLSE (ACC for Leafs and Raptors, BMO Field for Toronto FC and Maple Leaf Square). And if the "fans" who were banned were season ticket holders of any of those teams they won't find it funny.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2015, 04:21:17 PM
@SportsCentre
JUST IN: @LAKings place centre Mike Richards on waivers.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 26, 2015, 04:38:50 PM
@SportsCentre
JUST IN: @LAKings place centre Mike Richards on waivers.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Richards has $5.75M cap hit for 5 seasons after this one. He's being paid $7M this season, $6M, $5.5M, $4.5M, $3M and $3M in remaining yrs.


Zero cost in players, but cap room...  I wonder how much of his salary teams wanted LA to eat in trade talks. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2015, 04:41:57 PM

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Richards has $5.75M cap hit for 5 seasons after this one. He's being paid $7M this season, $6M, $5.5M, $4.5M, $3M and $3M in remaining yrs.


Zero cost in players, but cap room...  I wonder how much of his salary teams wanted LA to eat in trade talks. 

Id have to think atleast half


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on January 26, 2015, 05:49:40 PM
Not surprising. I have no idea what happened to this guy, one of the biggest drop offs I've seen in some time.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on January 26, 2015, 06:00:41 PM
statistically has been bad for about 4 years (this year included)
Another example of the gamble GM's take in these long contracts

Guessing he could look rejuvenated if he was on a line with at least 1 very talented winger. If with 2 sluggos well then a team will get a short check & off style. Hardly worth major moolah


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 26, 2015, 06:08:22 PM
Does clearing waivers make him more attractive in a trade?

Are "compliance buyouts" done with?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on January 26, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
Does clearing waivers make him more attractive in a trade?

Are "compliance buyouts" done with?

Yes, compliance buyouts ended this past offseason.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 26, 2015, 06:13:23 PM
Yes, compliance buyouts ended this past offseason.
that'll suck for a bunch of teams

Shoulda bought him out earlier


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on January 26, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
Does clearing waivers make him more attractive in a trade?

Are "compliance buyouts" done with?

Only for the fact it proves there is absolutely nobody that is willing to take on his contract. Lombardi will have to either eat 50% or more of his salary, or take a cap hit of $1 mil per while still paying him full salary for the next 5 years in Manchester. And I'm thinking at that point Richards would rather retire, which apparently punishes the Kings even more. LOL

And yes, buyouts are done with!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 27, 2015, 06:28:56 PM
Brodeur to retire:

http://www.tsn.ca/brodeur-to-retire-as-player-and-join-blues-front-office-1.192938 (http://www.tsn.ca/brodeur-to-retire-as-player-and-join-blues-front-office-1.192938)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 02, 2015, 02:13:05 PM
Nabby waived by the Lightning :(

I was hoping he would get a shot at the cup with them. Jets, bring him in! :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2015, 02:36:16 PM
Nabby waived by the Lightning :(

I was hoping he would get a shot at the cup with them. Jets, bring him in! :)

LOL

Why would anyone want a 39-year old goalie?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 02, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
LOL

Why would anyone want a 39-year old goalie?

I wasn't being serious, he's just my all-time favorite player.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2015, 02:40:40 PM
I wasn't being serious, he's just my all-time favorite player.

Fair enough. ;)

He had a good career with the Sharks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 02, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
Fair enough. ;)

He had a good career with the Sharks.

Yep, I'll always consider his save against Dallas in OT to be the best ever no matter how biased that comes across.

Kinda upset right now that I missed out on probably my last chance to meet him when the Lightning were in town in October. I had no idea he was playing with the Lightning beforehand. Hope he can sign as a backup with a team that has a road game in Winnipeg left this season.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 02, 2015, 05:19:43 PM
what what do you all think we're gonna see out of the Jets tonight?

I think they'll come out like gang busters myself.

STAY OUT OF THE BOX GUYS!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 09, 2015, 07:43:53 PM
Evgeni Nabokov dealt to the Sharks so he can retire with his longest tenured team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 09, 2015, 07:45:45 PM
Evgeni Nabokov dealt to the Sharks so he can retire with his longest tenured team.

;D

Hope to see him/this trade in Episode 3 of Road to the Stadium Series.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 09, 2015, 07:51:28 PM
;D

Hope to see him/this trade in Episode 3 of Road to the Stadium Series.

I'm sure it'll be featured. This is a classy move by Yzerman.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2015, 01:31:39 AM
man, Hawks look like crap against the Canucks, at home no less. Turnover machine Hawks are now. WOW

.500 team for the last month+

With all those players, amazing! Maybe they are tuning out Quenville.

3-1 Nucks Ouch!

Jets gave the Nucks a better fight


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 12, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/

Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2015, 07:51:52 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/

Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/

Oh, it'll be fun. ;D

Crazy... they'll crack the 50-years-with-no-championship record. There's something worth celebrating, eh? LOL


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 12, 2015, 10:11:43 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/

Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/

I chuckled when I heard this on HC@N. Leaf Mgmt have finally realized they have zero depth and the team they currently have is a farce. :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 13, 2015, 12:05:30 AM
 "Leafland" & their problems start with their awful looking uniforms & upper, upper management
The team is just a reflection of their inability to run a hockey business ........ IMHO


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 13, 2015, 01:02:52 PM
Re:Leafs it would make a great Soap!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on February 14, 2015, 12:51:52 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/

Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/

Of course, in typical Leafs fashion, they choose to do this the year after the McDavid/Eichel draft.

Get ready for the worst 3-5 years of top draft picks ever.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 14, 2015, 02:10:13 PM
I didn't realize the Stars got A. Vermette! Anyways Seguin and Vermette got hurt last night putting a ding in the Stars playoff hopes. Ha ha

Obviously Seguin would be a massive blow. :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2015, 04:11:46 PM
I didn't realize the Stars got A. Vermette! Anyways Seguin and Vermette got hurt last night putting a ding in the Stars playoff hopes. Ha ha

Obviously Seguin would be a massive blow. :D

The Stars got Vermette...?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 14, 2015, 06:11:27 PM
The Stars got Vermette...?

No, the other player placed on IR along with Seguin was Patrick Eaves.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 15, 2015, 02:13:32 AM
No, the other player placed on IR along with Seguin was Patrick Eaves.

That's what I thought. I couldn't find anything anywhere saying Vermette got traded. Thanks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on February 15, 2015, 03:10:08 PM
From TSN:

The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded Cody Franson and Mike Santorelli to the Nashville Predators Hockey Team for Nashville?s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 15, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
Preds trade for Santorelli (whom I liked when he was here for a short time with the jets, in fact I'd like him back here this year but that is not going to happen) and Franson while giving up a first round pick,  B. Liepsic and Olie Jokinen. Big price to pay for a couple fringe kinda guys.

Press going for it though. They re a deep team now!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 15, 2015, 03:11:18 PM
From TSN:

The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded Cody Franson and Mike Santorelli to the Nashville Predators Hockey Team for Nashville?s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088)
errr, you just beat me to the punch!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 15, 2015, 05:27:09 PM
a pretty fine addition in Franson for the puck moving defense of the Preds.  They also got stronger, deeper with Santorelli being added

Good luck to the leafs trying to move Olli out now ..... apparently he is not happy & the blue boys do not need him in their line up


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 15, 2015, 05:35:51 PM
Good move by Nash. They obviously feel they are a true SC contender, and bringing in Franson to shore up their 3rd pairing and a guy like Santorelli for the top 9 is a real nice addition to an already solid lineup.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on February 15, 2015, 11:02:42 PM
CHICAGO - Former NHL defenseman Steve Montador was found unconscious in his home in Mississauga, Ontario, early Sunday morning and was later pronounced dead, according to the Peel Region Police.

No foul play was suspected.

Montador last played in the NHL for the Chicago Blackhawks during the 2011-12 season. He missed the 2012-13 season recovering from a concussion. He said he battled depression as a physical symptom of the brain injury.


http://nypost.com/2015/02/15/nhls-steve-montador-dead-at-35-was-depressed-after-concussion/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
CHICAGO - Former NHL defenseman Steve Montador was found unconscious in his home in Mississauga, Ontario, early Sunday morning and was later pronounced dead, according to the Peel Region Police.

No foul play was suspected.

Montador last played in the NHL for the Chicago Blackhawks during the 2011-12 season. He missed the 2012-13 season recovering from a concussion. He said he battled depression as a physical symptom of the brain injury.


http://nypost.com/2015/02/15/nhls-steve-montador-dead-at-35-was-depressed-after-concussion/
RIP very curious to know how this could happen to such a young guy?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 16, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
RIP very curious to know how this could happen to such a young guy?

Some reports have said he'd been dealing with post-concussion syndromes and battling depression. I'm sure more will come to light as the investigation unfolds.

RIP, Steve. Another tragic loss to the hockey community. :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 16, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
Some reports have said he'd been dealing with post-concussion syndromes and battling depression. I'm sure more will come to light as the investigation unfolds.

RIP, Steve. Another tragic loss to the hockey community. :'(

Darryl Sutter, who was very close to Montador, seemed to suggest this as well.

Regardless, it's a very sad situation.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on February 16, 2015, 06:52:10 PM

BREAKING: #Sens sign defenceman Marc Methot to a four-year contract extension. pic.twitter.com/rie8Z8NXHM
? Ottawa Senators (@Senators) February 16, 2015

another big Dman name off the trade block now. maybe we will see some trades this deadline.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 08:10:17 PM
Darryl Sutter, who was very close to Montador, seemed to suggest this as well.

Regardless, it's a very sad situation.
It could potentially be another one of those brain injury situations.

It will be interesting to see what happened to the poor guy.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 16, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
By the end of this weekend if a few teams have lost extra ground & have accepted it is not happening this year ....... then the moves should start

Case in point ..... in the past week heard that Lou was still deeming NJ in the playoff hunt ...... with a dash of reality NJ should be dealing

Coyotes should be moving Yandle, 28 yrs old, & Vermette at 32, soon, with a large number of youngsters on the horizon, why not get another 1st round pick.
Boston may get an offer for "old" Chara & why not sweeten the pot with the goalie Subban thrown in to get a top 6 forward & draft pick
Ottawa should dangle Macarthur & Wiercioch, Florida needs to move Fleischmann, Bergenheim & over payed Jussi Jokinen ..... good luck there

A mere splattering of what may turn to facts or just remain fantasy
 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 16, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
By the end of this weekend if a few teams have lost extra ground & have accepted it is not happening this year ....... then the moves should start

Case in point ..... in the past week heard that Lou was still deeming NJ in the playoff hunt ...... with a dash of reality NJ should be dealing

Coyotes should be moving Yandle, 28 yrs old, & Vermette at 32, soon, with a large number of youngsters on the horizon, why not get another 1st round pick.
Boston may get an offer for "old" Chara & why not sweeten the pot with the goalie Subban thrown in to get a top 6 forward & draft pick
Ottawa should dangle Macarthur & Wiercioch, Florida needs to move Fleischmann, Bergenheim & over payed Jussi Jokinen ..... good luck there

A mere splattering of what may turn to facts or just remain fantasy
 

Going to be a fun couple weeks im thinking.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
Yep likely lots on movement upcoming. If Chevy makes a move like that could you envision what other more "movers and shakers" type GMs are thinking? Yikes.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 16, 2015, 10:01:36 PM
Yep likely lots on movement upcoming. If Chevy makes a move like that could you envision what other more "movers and shakers" type GMs are thinking? Yikes.

My guess is Chevy is done with trades this year.

I think we will see Armia up here.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 10:10:57 PM
My guess is Chevy is done with trades this year.

I think we will see Armia up here.
oh ya Chevy is done like yesterday's greasy burger! I think the smart move is to stand pat even know forward depth would be welcomed.

We got lots of high picks super prospect depth and a very good line up. Arnia, I'd love to see what he's got. Depth scoring for the 3rd 4th  wheel.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 16, 2015, 10:25:09 PM
oh ya Chevy is done like yesterday's greasy burger! I think the smart move is to stand pat even know forward depth would be welcomed.

We got lots of high picks super prospect depth and a very good line up. Arnia, I'd love to see what he's got. Depth scoring for the 3rd 4th  wheel.


MMMMMMMMMMMMMM  yesterdays greasy burger.

I think we go with what we got and hope for a playoff spot. Like you said we have lots of talent coming up and thats what we will depend on. When our team changes it will be from the guys we are developing and not trades.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 10:26:50 PM

MMMMMMMMMMMMMM  yesterdays greasy burger.

I think we go with what we got and hope for a playoff spot. Like you said we have lots of talent coming up and thats what we will depend on. When our team changes it will be from the guys we are developing and not trades.
lol

So true


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 17, 2015, 12:23:23 AM
Can you imagine landing Chara?  Opposing forwards having to face Buff, Chara or Myles every shift in front of the net...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 17, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
Can you imagine landing Chara?  Opposing forwards having to face Buff, Chara or Myles every shift in front of the net...
id rather not old goods there


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 17, 2015, 12:37:20 AM
God dammit 2-1 edm

Stupid penalty by our leader, Ladd!

Ugh


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 17, 2015, 12:42:54 AM
God dammit 2-1 edm

Stupid penalty by our leader, Ladd!

Ugh

Out of control


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on February 17, 2015, 01:34:20 AM
that hit by buff

 ;D  ;D  :o  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 17, 2015, 01:34:55 AM
that hit by buff

 ;D  ;D  :o  ;D  ;D

lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 17, 2015, 01:56:38 AM
lol
$$$

Untouchable


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on February 17, 2015, 02:13:57 AM
why aren't these comments posted in the Jets topic  ???  :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2015, 03:30:25 AM
Can you imagine landing Chara?  Opposing forwards having to face Buff, Chara or Myles every shift in front of the net...

No, I can't imagine the Jets being interested in a dinosaur they don't need.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 17, 2015, 03:36:50 AM
No, I can't imagine the Jets being interested in a dinosaur they don't need.
agreed dinosaur


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2015, 03:54:31 AM
Well, the Flames came back from a 3-0 deficit and won it in OT.

All tied at 1 after 40 on the coast between the Nucks and the Wild.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 17, 2015, 01:20:37 PM
Wild lost 7 point lead restored.

Flames Kings win but are battling for 3rd in the pacific to.

Jets siting pretty today.

Updates on Staffy and Mathieu would be appreciated!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2015, 01:59:25 PM
So glad the Wild lost last night.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Ryan Getzlaf... Ya should've just kept your mouth shut.

http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492 (http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492)

Ovechkin's trolling you good. LOL :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Arash Madani ‏@ArashMadani
Look who?s living the dream! RT @SWhyno: Olli Jokinen: "The one thing I notice here being here two days is a lot of negative energy." #Leafs


I wonder who the "centre" of that vortex of negativity is?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 01:00:03 PM
@garylawless
Armia and Klingberg absent from #icecaps practice today. could be injury could be recall to #nhljets ...more info from Jets this morning



OOOOOOOOOPS     Wrong thread.....  need coffee


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 18, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
Arash Madani ‏@ArashMadani
Look who?s living the dream! RT @SWhyno: Olli Jokinen: "The one thing I notice here being here two days is a lot of negative energy." #Leafs


I wonder who the "centre" of that vortex of negativity is?

Toronto media.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2015, 02:24:52 PM
Arash Madani ‏@ArashMadani
Look who?s living the dream! RT @SWhyno: Olli Jokinen: "The one thing I notice here being here two days is a lot of negative energy." #Leafs


I wonder who the "centre" of that vortex of negativity is?

Taking a jab at Jokinen...? Wow, imagine that. Aardsy crapping on a former player of a Winnipeg sports team. ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
Taking a jab at Jokinen...? Wow, imagine that. Aardsy crapping on a former player of a Winnipeg sports team. ::)

Kinda stupid taking a shot at Jokinen. Hes done nothing wrong.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 02:38:24 PM
Kinda stupid taking a shot at Jokinen. Hes done nothing wrong.

Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade?  Really?  And then this comment? 

Nothing wrong?



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 02:49:50 PM
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade?  Really?  And then this comment? 

Nothing wrong?



Can you blame him? Who the hell would want to go to the Leafs right now?

Hes been nothing but a great teammate and pro his entire career.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade?  Really?  And then this comment? 

Nothing wrong?

Yeah, I've read about it. Clearly, you haven't. So, here's some reading for you.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/olli-jokinen-on-nashville-predators-i-wasnt-used-properly/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/olli-jokinen-on-nashville-predators-i-wasnt-used-properly/)

?I think I wasn?t used properly over there,? Jokinen said Monday. ?I signed there as a centreman ? I don?t know what happened between July 2 and the training camp, but I found myself as a wing. To play right wing most of the year I was very uncomfortable.

?I?ve never played wing before in my life.?


What did Jokinen "do wrong" in your eyes, Aardsy? He played wing for the first time in his career. And wasn't good at it.

The Toronto media twists around what he says and you lap it up. Well done.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 18, 2015, 03:25:35 PM
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade?  Really?  And then this comment? 

Nothing wrong?



He's 36 years old, has never won a cup, and was traded from a cup favorite to a team that has straight up declared they won't even try to contend for the cup for 3-5 years.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
It's hilarious how anyone can crap on the player who was forced into an unfavourable situation, not the coach who decided to move him from the only position he's ever played.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 03:43:44 PM
It's hilarious how anyone can crap on the player who was forced into an unfavourable situation, not the coach who decided to move him from the only position he's ever played.

I agree.

Hes one of the NHL good guys IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 05:02:38 PM
Looks like the media has given him a bum rap.  All that was put out there was the negativity comments.  And all the questions were about whether he would report...

There is a very good article in the star today...

http://www.thestar.com/sports/breakaway_blog/2015/02/frank-speaking-olli-jokinen-breathes-some-honesty-into-leafs-room.html

Looks like he could be an asset for the Leafs in the dressing room after all.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 18, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
Looks like the media has given him a bum rap.  All that was put out there was the negativity comments.  And all the questions were about whether he would report...

There is a very good article in the star today...

http://www.thestar.com/sports/breakaway_blog/2015/02/frank-speaking-olli-jokinen-breathes-some-honesty-into-leafs-room.html

Looks like he could be an asset for the Leafs in the dressing room after all.



That is the Toronto media for you. Always toxic.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 10:18:56 PM
Ryan Getzlaf... Ya should've just kept your mouth shut.

http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492 (http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492)

Ovechkin's trolling you good. LOL :D

Ovei gets owned  lol



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 18, 2015, 11:24:37 PM
Ovei gets owned  lol


getzlaf is creepy he got interviewed for with is wife by his side and he could keep his hands off her the whole time during interview. She had a little hole in her jeans on her thigh and he kept circling his finger on it during the whole time. Wierd! K ya maybe she's his Barbie doll but man can't you control yourself for 10 minutes.

CreepO


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2015, 01:43:18 AM
Funny how Getzlaf started it with his whining. And now he's letting Ovechkin troll him.

Go figure, Getzlaf is a Saskatchewan boy. LOL ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2015, 01:26:28 PM
Ugh, lame game in Calgary last night. Both the Flames and Wild got points, the latter getting two. Lame.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 19, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Ugh, lame game in Calgary last night. Both the Flames and Wild got points, the latter getting two. Lame.
I thought the same I think that game couldn't have gone worse for the Jets and the playoff race. We just need to keep winning or at least get the single.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 19, 2015, 06:05:16 PM
NHL.com unveiling their advanced stats tomorrow will be interesting. All of the better advanced stats websites keep going down due to the owners getting hired by NHL clubs, so hopefully they did a good job with this.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2015, 06:14:35 PM
NHL.com unveiling their advanced stats tomorrow will be interesting. All of the better advanced stats websites keep going down due to the owners getting hired by NHL clubs, so hopefully they did a good job with this.

I'm looking forward to that, too. What website have you been using otherwise?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 19, 2015, 06:21:10 PM
I'm looking forward to that, too. What website have you been using otherwise?

For the most part hockeyanalysis and Behind The Net although I sometimes just do a Google search for a site and use some others from time to time. Anything else out there worth using?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2015, 06:28:05 PM
For the most part hockeyanalysis and Behind The Net although I sometimes just do a Google search for a site and use some others from time to time. Anything else out there worth using?

Not that I've found. I'm part of a hockey analytics group on FB but it only started up a couple weeks ago, Hardcore Analytics. It's more player-to-player comparisons using advanced stats, to be honest. Price vs. Rinne, Palat vs. Hall, Myers vs. Bogosian, etc.

hockeyanalysis.com is probably the best option out there right now. Hopefully, puckalytics.com takes off at some point this year. A comprehensive, user-friendly website would be great.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 20, 2015, 04:06:12 PM
Advanced stats are up on nhl.com

http://www.nhl.com/stats/advancedstats

It's not a bad start, and from what I hear they will be building onto this soon. (as well as possibly making salary info publicly available)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on February 20, 2015, 05:41:40 PM
I like them.

glad they didn't use the labels of Corsi and Fenwick, as it confuses people trying to learn about advanced stats.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 21, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Ah life's  to short to care about these stupid stats!

I can think of about 10 things I'd rather be doing than analyzing these dumb stats started by some guy named "Ferrari".

Ugh!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 21, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
If Corsi and Fenwick had been named Smith and Jones, I don't think they get stats named after them.

Remember the Niblick?  The Mashie?  The Spoon?  The Jigger?

Easier to remember, more descriptive names win out in the long run...  truthfully, I don't know (or care) what COrsi or Fenwick measure.  Knowing to 3 decimal points how many times out of a hundred a D man turns over the puck in the neutral zone when 5 on 5 really isn't as important as a lot of other things a player does.  "Advanced Analytics" can never measure the heart of a player.  Buff's contributions to the team aren't trackable that way.  The way he can change a games momentum with a hit or two, or a rush off the point, those are stat proof. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 21, 2015, 03:23:10 PM
If Corsi and Fenwick had been named Smith and Jones, I don't think they get stats named after them.

Remember the Niblick?  The Mashie?  The Spoon?  The Jigger?

Easier to remember, more descriptive names win out in the long run...  truthfully, I don't know (or care) what COrsi or Fenwick measure.  Knowing to 3 decimal points how many times out of a hundred a D man turns over the puck in the neutral zone when 5 on 5 really isn't as important as a lot of other things a player does.  "Advanced Analytics" can never measure the heart of a player.  Buff's contributions to the team aren't trackable that way.  The way he can change a games momentum with a hit or two, or a rush off the point, those are stat proof. 
"measure the heart of the player" ugh COME ON GIVE ME A BREAK MANG!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 21, 2015, 05:04:19 PM
If Corsi and Fenwick had been named Smith and Jones, I don't think they get stats named after them.

Remember the Niblick?  The Mashie?  The Spoon?  The Jigger?

Easier to remember, more descriptive names win out in the long run...  truthfully, I don't know (or care) what COrsi or Fenwick measure.  Knowing to 3 decimal points how many times out of a hundred a D man turns over the puck in the neutral zone when 5 on 5 really isn't as important as a lot of other things a player does.  "Advanced Analytics" can never measure the heart of a player.  Buff's contributions to the team aren't trackable that way.  The way he can change a games momentum with a hit or two, or a rush off the point, those are stat proof. 

The tired strawman argument of those who don't understand advanced stats.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 21, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
Analytics are just one of the many tools player agents + mgmt can utilize to measure a players worth come contract time. But obviously, there are variables to all measuring tools, and therefore the scouts critical eye test is still heavily relied upon.

That said, if the Cole availabilty rumors are true, he has the size, hands and type of game that could be a real nice fit on a line with 18 + 16. This would also allow Wheeler to move down onto a line with Scheif to try and re-kindle some of that magic from last year...and put Fro on the left side until Perreault comes back.

And if the Jets can also manage to bring Winnik home with them from Toronto, I think he'd be a real good fit with Lowry + Stafford during the playoff push.

The lines IF we made the playoffs would look like...
16-18-Cole
85-55-26
67-17-Staff
Winnik-19-22

Lots of size, speed, heart, experience thru the lineup with offense spreadout in the top 9 and maybe even the odd goal from the 4th line.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 21, 2015, 07:23:56 PM
With everyone healthy, I think Staff would be on with Little Ladd...  Cole with Lowry Frolik.  Especially if we want to sign Staff...  but again, the same might be said for COle, if they want to retain him past this year...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2015, 09:00:26 PM
The tired strawman argument of those who don't understand advanced stats.

Exactly. And last time I checked, there wasn't some legitimate way to mathematically calculate a player's "heart". ::)

Advanced stats are interesting because they can paint a more colourful picture of players and teams, which is important when addressing shortcomings with either and what improvements can be made to a specific player's game or a team's overall game.

Take a look at the advanced goaltending stats between Carey Price and Pekka Rinne, for example, to see how important the former really is to his team this season.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Ziggy66 on February 21, 2015, 09:29:47 PM
Exactly. And last time I checked, there wasn't some legitimate way to mathematically calculate a player's "heart". ::)

Advanced stats are interesting because they can paint a more colourful picture of players and teams, which is important when addressing shortcomings with either and what improvements can be made to a specific player's game or a team's overall game.

Take a look at the advanced goaltending stats between Carey Price and Pekka Rinne, for example, to see how important the former really is to his team this season.

send you 18.86 via paypal. take care of the shipping costs please.

now do pavs vs hutch just for fun.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 21, 2015, 09:32:03 PM
Exactly. And last time I checked, there wasn't some legitimate way to mathematically calculate a player's "heart". ::)

Advanced stats are interesting because they can paint a more colourful picture of players and teams, which is important when addressing shortcomings with either and what improvements can be made to a specific player's game or a team's overall game.

Take a look at the advanced goaltending stats between Carey Price and Pekka Rinne, for example, to see how important the former really is to his team this season.

Price is my Hart trophy winner if the season ended today. I kept hearing Rinne earlier in the season but if your Vezina candidate goalie is playing with a Norris favorite and Calder favorite under a Jack Adams favorite, and GM of the Year candidate, I just don't see how you can justify giving the Hart to that goalie even if Price wasn't playing to the level he is.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 22, 2015, 02:22:57 AM
I don't want Winnck anymore. Damage goods.lol



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 22, 2015, 02:23:18 AM
Tonight go Sharks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 22, 2015, 05:49:41 AM
KINGS WIN .... the KINGS WIN ....... GULP !!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 22, 2015, 03:36:03 PM
Need stars to win today bat those Wild.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 22, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
Need stars to win today bat those Wild.

i really dislike the Wild


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 22, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
i really dislike the Wild
because they stole Parise? Lol

I just hate because

Kinda like the rider of the NHL for me though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 22, 2015, 07:42:49 PM
because they stole Parise? Lol



YES! :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 24, 2015, 12:31:08 AM
YES! :D
i figured doosh move by Zachy


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2015, 02:01:29 PM
The Wild didn't steal Parise. They didn't steal Suter, either. The Wild overpaid for both.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 24, 2015, 02:59:42 PM
The Wild didn't steal Parise. They didn't steal Suter, either. The Wild overpaid for both.
so true it handy caps that team going forward. Kinda like the Riders now. lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2015, 04:06:44 PM
Habs trade Jiri Sekac to the Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly.

http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832 (http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 24, 2015, 04:35:16 PM
Habs trade Jiri Sekac to the Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly.

http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832 (http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832)

Of the two I'd rather have Sekac but maybe that's just because I don't like DSP.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 24, 2015, 07:18:52 PM
Of the two I'd rather have Sekac but maybe that's just because I don't like DSP.
nice grit trade for the Habs. DSP can be a force especially in the playoffs.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 24, 2015, 08:10:20 PM
nice grit trade for the Habs. DSP can be a force especially in the playoffs.

Exactly. Bergevin must have felt the Habs have enough of the soft skilled players. DSP has some playoff experience and should provide the Habs with some board crashing and net front presence.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 24, 2015, 10:27:52 PM
Exactly. Bergevin must have felt the Habs have enough of the soft skilled players. DSP has some playoff experience and should provide the Habs with some board crashing and net front presence.

yep


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 25, 2015, 11:18:47 PM
Wow P Kane out 3 months ouch



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 25, 2015, 11:39:52 PM
Wow P Kane out 3 months ouch



woot woot


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 26, 2015, 12:02:31 AM
woot woot
he is entertaining to watch though.

If you are a hawks fan your worried.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
Wow P Kane out 3 months ouch

Big loss for the Blackhawks. Maybe the Jets can catch 'em and grab third place in the Central. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 26, 2015, 05:02:27 PM
Big loss for the Blackhawks. Maybe the Jets can catch 'em and grab third place in the Central. ;D
we clearly have a better  chance now!!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 09:49:53 PM
Jagr traded to Panthers


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Jagr traded to Panthers

I wonder if he'll retire down there.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 10:33:13 PM
I wonder if he'll retire down there.

lol...i think he wants to play till he dies lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 10:33:37 PM
clarkson traded to Columbus = gigantic bust....what a great day


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 26, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Lou L. won that trade.
Why would the Panthers give up the drafts for another soon retiring senior to wander the beach fronts or trailer courts for Bingo games.

Jagr has been an awesome player who will, for sure, be in the Hall of Fame ........ but why would the Panthers need him & give up these high slot picks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on February 26, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
clarkson traded to Columbus = gigantic bust....what a great day
Might be time to dig up that post again where you told me he was better than Pavelski...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 11:26:27 PM
Might be time to dig up that post again where you told me he was better than Pavelski...

he was...when he played with kovalchuk and parise lol....but too be fair, he was much better in a devils uni then ever was with the leafs  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 26, 2015, 11:56:47 PM
Great take on the Clarkson trade tweeted out by Bob McKenzie...

Basically, Horton;s contract is not insured, regardless cap or no cap, CBJ couldn't afforrd to pay someone not to play.  OTOH, MLSE can.  They can stash Horton's cap hit on the LTIL, pay him not to play, and not have the cap hit Clarkson carried.  The richest team in the league can eat uninsured injured reserve money...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
For those interested in advanced hockey stats, this website is a pretty extensive resource and offers a mountain of information:

http://war-on-ice.com/ (http://war-on-ice.com/)

You can even put your own charts/tables together using specific players or teams.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 27, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
he was...when he played with kovalchuk and parise lol....but too be fair, he was much better in a devils uni then ever was with the leafs  :P

He was never better than Pavelski, it's not even close.

During Clarkson's best season (which wasn't even very good) he had 30G and 16A. That same season Pavelski posted 31G and 30A. The point totals for Clarkson in his seasons leading up to that year from least to most recent were 22, 32, 24, and 18. Pavelski in that time frame had 40, 59, 51, and 66. Pavelski had also won a silver medal in the Olympics by this time as a premier American forward.

Since then Clarkson has become a negative value player, while Pavelski is on his way to consecutive 40 goal seasons (Clarkson has a grand total of 30 since '11-'12), scored more goals than any other player in 2014, and is an elite player in this league.

Saying he was at any point in his career better than Pavelski is preposterous.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 27, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
For those interested in advanced hockey stats, this website is a pretty extensive resource and offers a mountain of information:

http://war-on-ice.com/ (http://war-on-ice.com/)

You can even put your own charts/tables together using specific players or teams.

I feel like you probably already know this but I'll say it for others on here. WOI and Greg Sinclair are working together to create a replacement for CapGeek. You can see the super early result of this collaboration in the cap section of this site. Both parties are going to have their own site for the information but the data will be shared. Give these guys some time and we should have a good alternative to CapGeek (Hopefully one of the two parties is working on a new UI too ;) )


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on February 28, 2015, 04:47:10 PM
He was never better than Pavelski, it's not even close.

During Clarkson's best season (which wasn't even very good) he had 30G and 16A. That same season Pavelski posted 31G and 30A. The point totals for Clarkson in his seasons leading up to that year from least to most recent were 22, 32, 24, and 18. Pavelski in that time frame had 40, 59, 51, and 66. Pavelski had also won a silver medal in the Olympics by this time as a premier American forward.

Since then Clarkson has become a negative value player, while Pavelski is on his way to consecutive 40 goal seasons (Clarkson has a grand total of 30 since '11-'12), scored more goals than any other player in 2014, and is an elite player in this league.

Saying he was at any point in his career better than Pavelski is preposterous.

thats fine...im not gonna internet argue over 2 players i have zero interest in


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 28, 2015, 06:03:52 PM
thats fine...im not gonna internet argue over 2 players i have zero interest in

There is no argument.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on February 28, 2015, 09:21:27 PM
I feel like you probably already know this but I'll say it for others on here. WOI and Greg Sinclair are working together to create a replacement for CapGeek. You can see the super early result of this collaboration in the cap section of this site. Both parties are going to have their own site for the information but the data will be shared. Give these guys some time and we should have a good alternative to CapGeek (Hopefully one of the two parties is working on a new UI too ;) )

But advanced stats are laaaaaame. No offence Colton. CapGeek rules.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 28, 2015, 10:01:21 PM
But advanced stats are laaaaaame. No offence Colton. CapGeek rules.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

I also don't know if you know this or not, but CapGeek no longer exists. So the fact that very talented and connected people are working on a replacement is a very good thing. Unless you enjoy sites like NHL Numbers and their often times incorrect salary numbers.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 01, 2015, 12:38:18 AM
There is no argument.

People are allowed to have a different opinion then yours.

Yet im sure you dont care and will continue to think only yours matters.

Avg fans and their opinions dont matter and are wrong so they might as well just shut up. There is no possible way you can be wrong or accept another opinion.

Well except for that afterburner thing....  Way off and not even close to being correct.

You still wont admit your wrong about that..


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 01, 2015, 01:53:15 AM
Vermette to Chi for a First and a prospect.  Joins Timonen in the newly acquired pile. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 01, 2015, 06:44:15 AM
People are allowed to have a different opinion then yours.

Yet im sure you dont care and will continue to think only yours matters.

Avg fans and their opinions dont matter and are wrong so they might as well just shut up. There is no possible way you can be wrong or accept another opinion.

Well except for that afterburner thing....  Way off and not even close to being correct.

You still wont admit your wrong about that..

John Scott is a more talented hockey player than anyone under contract with the Winnipeg Jets. Not even close, blows them all out of the water.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 01, 2015, 02:59:37 PM
John Scott - real bad FAIL


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 01, 2015, 03:10:26 PM
Is Boston going to overpay for a Power winger & a veteran.
Is Ottawa now going to move, though injured, Anderson because this kid Hammond has them winning 5 in a row?
San Jose is tredding so will they shake up some veterans with moves?
Love this week & finally tomorrow


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 01, 2015, 03:35:09 PM
HUGE game today....  need a clean 2

Go get er boys.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 01, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
Mini cal and LA are breathing down our necks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 01, 2015, 05:15:57 PM
Apparently Glencross has been pulled off the practice ice & is saying bye to his teammates

H & L are saying maybe to Washington ........ done ......  but they are not as yet showing what & whom goes back


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 01, 2015, 05:18:46 PM
Apparently Glencross has been pulled off the practice ice & is saying bye to his teammates

H & L are saying maybe to Washington
good Calgary getting weaker. I guess I guess what comes back in return. Washington likely not giving up any real active roster talent. Maybe a jay beagle at best?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 01, 2015, 05:35:42 PM
good Calgary getting weaker. I guess I guess what comes back in return. Washington likely not giving up any real active roster talent. Maybe a jay beagle at best?

2nd n 3rd


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 01, 2015, 05:53:52 PM
unbelievable


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2015, 12:38:42 AM
Rangers are blowing the future for now. And I mean blowing it! Love to see them get dumped in the first round. LOL

I don't think they have a first or second round pick for the next two drafts now. LoL

Slats is chewing on to many stogies  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 02, 2015, 01:19:35 AM
I feel like you probably already know this but I'll say it for others on here. WOI and Greg Sinclair are working together to create a replacement for CapGeek. You can see the super early result of this collaboration in the cap section of this site. Both parties are going to have their own site for the information but the data will be shared. Give these guys some time and we should have a good alternative to CapGeek (Hopefully one of the two parties is working on a new UI too ;) )

I'm looking forward to this "CapGeek 2.0" when it gets launched.

Anyways, quite a number of trades this weekend... Vermette to Chicago, Yandle to the Rangers, Glencross to the Capitals. Could be a quiet day tomorrow.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2015, 02:08:33 AM
I'm looking forward to this "CapGeek 2.0" when it gets launched.

Anyways, quite a number of trades this weekend... Vermette to Chicago, Yandle to the Rangers, Glencross to the Capitals. Could be a quiet day tomorrow.
i doubt it I say it will be busy still

Leafs unload dion I think


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 02, 2015, 03:05:38 AM
Leafs shutout & lose again ....... fantastic.  Agree DP should (as I'm sure he is praying for) be moved

Thinking Tampa, Boston, San Jose, St. Louis, the Islanders have some needs ....... tomorrow should have a few cool moves       


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 02, 2015, 03:21:16 AM
Leafs shutout & lose again ....... fantastic.  Agree DP should (as I'm sure he is praying for) be moved

Thinking Tampa, Boston, San Jose, St. Louis, the Islanders have some needs ....... tomorrow should have a few cool moves       

I expect San Jose to sell


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 02, 2015, 04:46:04 AM
@NYRangers: OFFICIAL: #NYR have acquired forward James Sheppard from San Jose in exchange for the Rangers' own 4th round pick in 2016.

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: FYI the Sharks retained $100,000 of Sheppard's salary to help Rangers' cap situation


@TSNHockey: Stars have traded F Cole to the Wings for a second-round pick and two prospects #TradeCentre

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Prospects going to Dallas in Cole deal: Mattias Backman and Mattas Janmark.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 02, 2015, 04:55:33 AM
Somehow SJose has lost momentum & now are in a tough spot ...... however they are in the Pacific Division & a push gets them in 2nd or 3rd & in the playoffs
Lack crapped the bed again tonight however so did Allen for St. Louis .......... what a race.

Guessing, cause of his 37 years, the Flyers try to move Streit ..... everyone needs a good Dman


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 02, 2015, 04:58:15 AM
Cole should be great for the Wings ....... sure hope Helm (going for an MRI) is not badly damaged


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 02, 2015, 05:19:17 AM
Interesting stuff from the Blues/Canucks game... I didn't see the game but from various tweets it said Allen was pulled with Elliot going in. Elliot gave up a goal and either pulled himself or was pulled by Hitchcock with Allen going back in. Some reports say Elliot was grabbed by Hitchcock who pushed Hitchcock's hand away and the 2 had words before Elliot stormed off. Did they show any of this during the game?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 02, 2015, 05:33:48 AM
Somehow SJose has lost momentum & now are in a tough spot ...... however they are in the Pacific Division & a push gets them in 2nd or 3rd & in the playoffs
Lack crapped the bed again tonight however so did Allen for St. Louis .......... what a race.

Guessing, cause of his 37 years, the Flyers try to move Streit ..... everyone needs a good Dman

Probably has something to do with going the entire month of February without winning at home. The Sharks have many issues and zero future. Buying at the deadline would be a terrible mistake for the future of the team. They should be selling for the future and stockpiling draft picks because they have very very little in terms of prospects at this moment.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 02, 2015, 04:02:22 PM
So, the worst team in the league only has a 20% chance at #1?  They get the #2 for sure, so tanking gets you a McEichel.  But the #29th team has a 33.5% chance of picking in the top 2, (Their 13.5 plus the #30 teams 20%) .  66.5% chance 29th overall gets pick 3, losing the McEichel sweeps.

If you're going to tank, you better do it well....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
What did that fan tweet say about Dion Phaneuf's wife? Something about Lupul? Please post it on here....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 02, 2015, 08:31:14 PM
What did that fan tweet say about Dion Phaneuf's wife? Something about Lupul? Please post it on here....

It said he wants Lupul to stay with the Leafs because he slept with Phaneuf's wife.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
snoozefest this year


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2015, 09:58:31 PM
It said he wants Lupul to stay with the Leafs because he slept with Phaneuf's wife.
lol sweeeeet! Gotta be fun to be a bud! LoL

That's almost as bad as Lindros being traded away from the Flyers because he slept with Brind'amour's wife!

lol

I applaud TSN for having it on the ticker and providing such great entertainment!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on March 02, 2015, 11:45:02 PM

The Blackhawks locker room is in disarray because of off-ice issues. Players are fighting for random reasons that have nothing to do with internal discord.

Whatever has caused these rumors or what they mean, Chicago defenseman Duncan Keith has decided to join the chorus of Chicago players spouting off on the issue.


https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fire-back-at-rumors-on-locker-room-discord-182911311.html


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 02, 2015, 11:56:15 PM

The Blackhawks locker room is in disarray because of off-ice issues. Players are fighting for random reasons that have nothing to do with internal discord.

Whatever has caused these rumors or what they mean, Chicago defenseman Duncan Keith has decided to join the chorus of Chicago players spouting off on the issue.


https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fire-back-at-rumors-on-locker-room-discord-182911311.html

i dont understand this  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 03, 2015, 12:00:45 AM

The Blackhawks locker room is in disarray because of off-ice issues. Players are fighting for random reasons that have nothing to do with internal discord.

Whatever has caused these rumors or what they mean, Chicago defenseman Duncan Keith has decided to join the chorus of Chicago players spouting off on the issue.


https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fire-back-at-rumors-on-locker-room-discord-182911311.html

The locker room rumours about the Blackhawks/Sharp are pretty severe.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on March 03, 2015, 04:17:51 PM
The locker room rumours about the Blackhawks/Sharp are pretty severe.

Yet we still can't close the gap on those 5 points.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 07:33:39 PM
Yet we still can't close the gap on those 5 points.
they are still quite talented.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 03, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
they are still quite talented.

Might just prove why Toews is the best leader/captain/player  in the NHL

After all the media crap.....  Picked them up and carried them to a W


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
Might just prove why Toews is the best leader/captain/player  in the NHL

After all the media crap.....  Picked them up and carried them to a W
is he better than Ladd, now?

I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 03, 2015, 09:19:19 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?

I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.

Toews is a top 5 forward in the NHL, Ladd isn't a comparable IMO.

Even if you go by just scoring, the splits are 22G 30A 52P in 64G for Ladd and 21G 32A 53P in 64G for Toews this season,  674GP 183G 227A 410P for Ladd in his career and 548GP 216G 277A 493P for Toews in his career. Carrers in the playoffs are 53GP 8G 7A 15P for Ladd, 94GP 29G 52A 81P for Toews.

So Toews is a better option than Ladd offensively, the competition isn't even close defensively. Toews is a perennial Selke nominee and arguably one of the best defensive forwards in the game. He is a beast on faceoffs

Toews is also one of the most clutch forwards in the NHL since he was drafted. Easily the best leader in the NHL, has won 2 cups, and a Conn Smythe on top of that.    


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2015, 09:30:40 PM
Yet we still can't close the gap on those 5 points.

I was really thinking the Canes would take it to them last night. But the Hawks rallied and won. Blah. :-\

is he better than Ladd, now?

I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.

Is Toews better than Ladd...? Unequivocally, yes. Toews is a top player in the NHL and has elite status. Ladd is a solid captain but his talent and leadership are nowhere close to what Toews brings to the tables.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 03, 2015, 09:46:40 PM
Just to add, Toews was ranked the #2 NHL player going into this season by NHL GM's, NHL coaches, and TSN 'experts'

http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060

Ladd did not make the list, which lists the top 50 players.

I would definitely agree that Toews is the second best forward in the NHL (I'd rank him 4th in players behind Crosby, Price, and Doughty).


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:52:00 PM
Blah blah blah Ladd is better RIGHT NOW as my post states


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 03, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?

I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.

Not doubting Ladd at all.

Pretty safe to say Toews is the best in the game.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 03, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
Deadspin ‏@Deadspin
Joffrey Lupul, Dion Phaneuf, and Elisha Cuthbert want an apology and cash from TSN for airing a joke tweet: http://deadsp.in/1ZyQcrs


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 03, 2015, 10:16:05 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?

I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.

Toews is the best in hockey imo


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 03, 2015, 10:20:48 PM
and Toews should go down in history as one of the very best....AHEAD of Crosby


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2015, 10:23:28 PM
Blah blah blah Ladd is better RIGHT NOW as my post states

How is Ladd better than Toews right now?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 03, 2015, 10:27:04 PM
and Toews should go down in history as one of the very best....AHEAD of Crosby

With out any doubt


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 03, 2015, 10:29:29 PM
How is Ladd better than Toews right now?

he posted his reasons

 
Quote
Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 03, 2015, 10:41:37 PM
Blah blah blah Ladd is better RIGHT NOW as my post states

No he isn't


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2015, 11:43:37 PM
he posted his reasons

No, he didn't. How is Ladd more consistent or lead by truer example...?

Last ten games for each captain:
   LADD      4G, 3A (7P), +2
   TOEWS   6G, 3A (9P), +8

Both have pretty good stats. Toews' are clearly better, though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 12:49:46 AM
No, he didn't. How is Ladd more consistent or lead by truer example...?

Last ten games for each captain:
   LADD      4G, 3A (7P), +2
   TOEWS   6G, 3A (9P), +8

Both have pretty good stats. Toews' are clearly better, though.

ya...i posted his reasons why he feels that Ladd is better as of right now


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 01:00:17 AM
ya...i posted his reasons why he feels that Ladd is better as of right now

And it dont matter


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 04, 2015, 01:47:06 AM
Here's a look at the advanced stats between the two captains (attachment).

Toews has better possession stats in tougher zone starts against tougher competition this season and is consistently among the league's best two-way forwards.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 02:29:28 AM
Cory Schnieder is giving me hope lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on March 04, 2015, 02:41:52 AM
No doubt that Price gets amazing press when he is having a very good year but ........... Schneider has been equally as good IMO


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:54:11 AM
No he isn't
yes he is

Ladd would be better if he had Hossa as a line mate.

But I do agree all time Toews should go down as the better player than Crosby

Mud is right it don't matter it's just my opinion of the two right now and only based on very recent history.

Ladd is better overall in the latter part of the season, so far

Deal with it you dweebs!😃😃😃


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 03:10:42 AM
I'm not sure Ladd is even in the top 20 players in this league if you narrow it down to only the 27 captains in this league.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 03:11:26 AM
No doubt that Price gets amazing press when he is having a very good year but ........... Schneider has been equally as good IMO

his numbers are there...he just doesnt have the team in front of him...but Price is having a pretty great year


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 03:12:58 AM
No doubt that Price gets amazing press when he is having a very good year but ........... Schneider has been equally as good IMO

Schneider has had an excellent 2015 in particular. Not sold on him past the regular season though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 03:14:03 AM
I'm not sure Ladd is even in the top 20 players in this league if you narrow it down to only the 27 captains in this league.

hes easily in the top 20...his team is sitting 12th overall , in a tough division...hes 26th in the league in points, and like Gold said, hes playing with a wicked edge to him the past few games...hitting everything and being jonny on the spot too....easily top 20


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 03:33:06 AM
hes easily in the top 20...his team is sitting 12th overall , in a tough division...hes 26th in the league in points, and like Gold said, hes playing with a wicked edge to him the past few games...hitting everything and being jonny on the spot too....easily top 20

Getzlaf
Chara
Giordano
Toews
Landeskog
Benn
Zetterberg
Brown
Koivu
Weber
Tavares
McDonagh
Karlsson
Giroux
Crosby
Backes
Stamkos
Sedin
Ovechkin

Are all better than Ladd. That's 19. The other 7 are Doan, Staal, Gionta, Ference, Mitchell, Salvador, Phaneuf. You can argue Ladd slides into the last spot of the top 20 but it's close.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 04, 2015, 04:02:47 AM
Crazy game for the Panthers and Leafs. Luongo hurts his shoulder and comes out of game. Montoya comes in, later is hurt and comes out. Delay while players volunteer to play goal but Montoya then comes back but can hardly move. Goalie coach suits up but Montoya stays in before Luongo comes back in. Craziest part - Leafs won.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 12:07:00 PM
Getzlaf
Chara
Giordano
Toews
Landeskog
Benn
Zetterberg
Brown
Koivu
Weber
Tavares
McDonagh
Karlsson
Giroux
Crosby
Backes
Stamkos
Sedin
Ovechkin

Are all better than Ladd. That's 19. The other 7 are Doan, Staal, Gionta, Ference, Mitchell, Salvador, Phaneuf. You can argue Ladd slides into the last spot of the top 20 but it's close.
ah you're out to lunch! Considering the source I'm not surprised!😳


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 12:29:18 PM
hes easily in the top 20...his team is sitting 12th overall , in a tough division...hes 26th in the league in points, and like Gold said, hes playing with a wicked edge to him the past few games...hitting everything and being jonny on the spot too....easily top 20

I agree


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 12:50:29 PM
I agree
X3


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 01:04:35 PM
Dustin Brown isn't a better player than Ladd. That's the only name on that list that is clearly wrong imo. I'd put him ahead of Koivu and even Chara now too, but I could understand the argument the other way as well. Chara is so slow now and not the player he used to be, though he's certainly not a bum.

I really like Ladd, but any argument that he's better than Toews is nonsense.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
and Toews should go down in history as one of the very best....AHEAD of Crosby

This is also nonsense, but I'm sure you already know that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
This is also nonsense, but I'm sure you already know that.

Personal preference but if i were starting a team id take Toews over Crosby every time.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
Dustin Brown isn't a better player than Ladd. That's the only name on that list that is clearly wrong imo. I'd put him ahead of Koivu and even Chara now too, but I could understand the argument the other way as well. Chara is so slow now and not the player he used to be, though he's certainly not a bum.

I really like Ladd, but any argument that he's better than Toews is nonsense.

Perhaps I overvalue Brown after watching my team play against him 13 times a year the last couple of years. Ladd is definitely a more offensive player nowadays but I like what Brown brings to his team more than Ladd.

Using Mud's line of thinking, I would take Ladd over Koivu and Chara as well. Ladd definitely has more upside left in his career and will be playing and is younger than either of them. At the same time though I wouldn't call Filip Forsberg a better player than Jaromir Jagr even though I'd clearly take Filip any day of the week.

Regardless, even with those Ladd is ~16th only counting captains which is the greater point I was trying to make.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:20:21 PM
YOu guys are just muddying up everything I'm trying to say.

I'm saying Ladd ahas been better than Toews in the last few games.

Toews is better than Ladd by a long shot overall but I'm talking lately.

Brown lately sucks.

 ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:21:08 PM
Personal preference but if i were starting a team id take Toews over Crosby every time.

I've heard a lot of people say this. I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of view but in terms of players going down in history I don't see Toews ahead of Crosby. Crosby will go into history books as a generational talent along the lines of Gretzky and Lemieux. He saved an NHL franchise, he won a cup, his trophy room is packed, he's posted insane numbers (1.37P per game) over the span of his career while dealing with concussion issues among other injuries. He scored the OT goal to capture Olympic Gold on home ice, nobody who watched that game is going to forget that goal.

Toews is incredible, he's accomplished a few of the things above, he's accomplished some things Crosby hasn't, but I don't see history remembering him in the realm of players like Gretzky and Lemieux.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
YOu guys are just muddying up everything I'm trying to say.

I'm saying Ladd ahas been better than Toews in the last few games.

Toews is better than Ladd by a long shot overall but I'm talking lately.

Brown lately sucks.

 ;D

BG84 showed that even that is still wrong.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
BG84 showed that even that is still wrong.
take those stats and shove it! Its about the play on the ice that counts. ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
take those stats and shove it! Its about the play on the ice that counts. ;)

Toews is better than Ladd on the ice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 02:26:21 PM


Using Mud's line of thinking, I would take Ladd over Koivu and Chara as well. Ladd definitely has more upside left in his career and will be playing and is younger than either of them. At the same time though I wouldn't call Filip Forsberg a better player than Jaromir Jagr even though I'd clearly take Filip any day of the week.

Regardless, even with those Ladd is ~16th only counting captains which is the greater point I was trying to make.

I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.

You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:26:46 PM
Toews is better than Ladd on the ice.
not lately


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:27:06 PM
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.

You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?
no just no


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.

You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?

No, not at all.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:28:55 PM
not lately

Yes.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 04, 2015, 02:33:14 PM
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.

You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?

Which Forsberg?  The one Jagr played against for years, or the rookie?  Because, based on this year only, Jagr is better than one of those...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 02:36:52 PM
I've heard a lot of people say this. I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of view but in terms of players going down in history I don't see Toews ahead of Crosby. Crosby will go into history books as a generational talent along the lines of Gretzky and Lemieux. He saved an NHL franchise, he won a cup, his trophy room is packed, he's posted insane numbers (1.37P per game) over the span of his career while dealing with concussion issues among other injuries. He scored the OT goal to capture Olympic Gold on home ice, nobody who watched that game is going to forget that goal.

Toews is incredible, he's accomplished a few of the things above, he's accomplished some things Crosby hasn't, but I don't see history remembering him in the realm of players like Gretzky and Lemieux.

Like i said its my personal pref.

You can talk numbers and all that its all fine, but if im starting a team and i need a leader i want Toews over Crosby every day.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:51:02 PM
Like i said its my personal pref.

You can talk numbers and all that its all fine, but if im starting a team and i need a leader i want Toews over Crosby every day.

I know, I said that's a popular opinion. I don't disagree with it. I was just pointing out there is a difference between who you would want as a GM, and the distinction of what history will say about each of these players. They're too completely different topics.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
Which Forsberg?  The one Jagr played against for years, or the rookie?  Because, based on this year only, Jagr is better than one of those...

Anton.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 05:37:41 PM
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/joffrey-lupul-get-familiar-with-no-comment-toronto-maple-leafs/

Eh they got familiar with you being hurt and not playing.....  this should be easy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 05:57:51 PM
Lupul is now trying to arrange fist fights with fans over Instagram.

https://twitter.com/opdogg1984/status/573072054993489920/photo/1

The fan he is responding to is also hilarious, The 1v1 CoD challenge has me cracking up.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 06:06:27 PM
Lupul is now trying to arrange fist fights with fans over Instagram.

https://twitter.com/opdogg1984/status/573072054993489920/photo/1

The fan he is responding to is also hilarious, The 1v1 CoD challenge has me cracking up.
The fan's first post is terrible, which negates any humour he may display later on. Lupul needs to be smart enough to not engage people like this.

Can you block people on instagram? That would be the smart move...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 06:14:55 PM
The fan's first post is terrible, which negates any humour he may display later on. Lupul needs to be smart enough to not engage people like this.

Can you block people on instagram? That would be the smart move...

The fans first comment I can see on here is humorous to me and responding to a high profile athlete threatening him with a lawsuit over something stupid written on the internet. Or are you talking about what spawned this conversation. I haven't seen that comment/message

Lupul should know better to get into pissing matches with people over social media. He sounds like a 12 year old kid.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 06:28:56 PM
The fans first comment I can see on here is humorous to me and responding to a high profile athlete threatening him with a lawsuit over something stupid written on the internet. Or are you talking about what spawned this conversation. I haven't seen that comment/message

Lupul should know better to get into pissing matches with people over social media. He sounds like a 12 year old kid.

Me thinks Lupul has lost his mind.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 06:37:22 PM
The fans first comment I can see on here is humorous to me and responding to a high profile athlete threatening him with a lawsuit over something stupid written on the internet. Or are you talking about what spawned this conversation. I haven't seen that comment/message

Lupul should know better to get into pissing matches with people over social media. He sounds like a 12 year old kid.

It must be what started the conversation. The comment I'm referring to was this guy talking about how Lupul and Avery "wrecked" Phaneuf's wife. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 06:40:56 PM
It must be what started the conversation. The comment I'm referring to was this guy talking about how Lupul and Avery "wrecked" Phaneuf's wife. 

Hadn't seen that, just the responses from that image. Immature comments from an immature person no doubt. Still don't like Lupul's response to it either.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
Yes.
hmmmm NO not lately


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
I've heard a lot of people say this. I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of view but in terms of players going down in history I don't see Toews ahead of Crosby. Crosby will go into history books as a generational talent along the lines of Gretzky and Lemieux. He saved an NHL franchise, he won a cup, his trophy room is packed, he's posted insane numbers (1.37P per game) over the span of his career while dealing with concussion issues among other injuries. He scored the OT goal to capture Olympic Gold on home ice, nobody who watched that game is going to forget that goal.

Toews is incredible, he's accomplished a few of the things above, he's accomplished some things Crosby hasn't, but I don't see history remembering him in the realm of players like Gretzky and Lemieux.

he'll go down that way becuase the hockey world shoves him down our throats every chance they get


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 07:00:52 PM
This Cuthbert thing is awesome.

Screw TO "come play in Wpg we have a budding program of success!"

Maybe we can scoop Lupul ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
It must be what started the conversation. The comment I'm referring to was this guy talking about how Lupul and Avery "wrecked" Phaneuf's wife. 
sloppy seconds if you will. I think I quote Avery on that one, lol.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 04, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
This Cuthbert thing is awesome.

Screw TO "come play in Wpg we have a budding program of success!"

Maybe we can scoop Lupul ;D

Ugh... No. Just no.

The Maple Leafs' season is just a nightmare.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:26:19 PM
he'll go down that way becuase the hockey world shoves him down our throats every chance they get

Because he is the best player in the game, that's generally how most sports work.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 07:28:41 PM
Because he is the best player in the game, that's generally how most sports work.

in your opinion he is


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:29:38 PM
hmmmm NO not lately

Lately, last few years, entire careers, any time frame you want to use.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:30:10 PM
in your opinion he is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lindsay_Award


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 04, 2015, 07:42:07 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lindsay_Award

Do you think Crosby will win it this year?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:49:15 PM
Do you think Crosby will win it this year?

I wouldn't think so, was just an easy response to a stupid statement.

More for AG, I just typed 'Best player in NHL' into Google. I'm just going to straight up copy and paste the lists that come up from that query without even checking if they say Crosby because I'm extremely confident that they will. If they don't list him someone can let me know but I don't expect that to happen.

http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/top-50-players-in-the-nhl-1-10/
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11909090/2014-15-nhl-season-john-buccigross-gives-us-thoughts-
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2217152-br-experts-ranking-of-the-top-100-nhl-players-in-2014-15
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/18/the-top-50-nhl-players-for-2014
https://www.easports.com/nhl/news/2014/nhl-15-player-ratings-top-50-overall
http://www.ibtimes.com/top-50-nhl-players-look-best-hockey-players-2013-2014-season-1560229
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/top-10-hockey-players-of-2014--puck-daddy-s-year-in-review-205823088.html


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 08:34:49 PM
What stupid comment?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
Those are all opinion based as well


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:21:10 PM
Those are all opinion based as well

Yes, when the vast majority of the fans, experts, players, coaches, GM's, etc... believe a certain player to be the best in the league, it's probably because he is.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:23:39 PM
Lately, last few years, entire careers, any time frame you want to use.
no Ladd has been better in the last few games

Obviously your a bigger Hawk fan to ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
no Ladd has been better in the last few games

Obviously your a bigger Hawk fan to ;)

Nah, it's definitely been Toews. ;)

Not a big fan of the Hawks... Still hurting from that sweep in 2010.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Nah, it's definitely been Toews. ;)

Not a big fan of the Hawks... Still hurting from that sweep in 2010.
nah Ladd better. Glad to hear your hurting :'(

Get over it man! it's a matter of opinion you're like a ---- of a wife here.

Got it poindexter


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
Yes, when the vast majority of the fans, experts, players, coaches, GM's, etc... believe a certain player to be the best in the league, it's probably because he is.

we were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
nah Ladd better. Glad to hear your hurting :'(

Get over it man! it's a matter of opinion you're like a ---- of a wife here.

Got it poindexter

Were we actually arguing? I thought we were messing around. Must have misread that situation.

I don't see how something performance based can be a manner of opinion though. If one player is clearly performing at a much higher level than another player in a performance based league, that player is objectively a better player. If it's close, it becomes a little less objective but this isn't one of those cases.

Unless you think Ladd is a better player because he brings better storylines to the team...  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:47:08 PM
we were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings

Yes, and it's very clear that Crosby will go down in history as a better player than Toews. You started arguing it's because he's shoved down peoples throats and I told you it's because he is clearly seen as a better hockey player by the extremely vast majority of people who follow this sport, and even those who don't. If you go up to someone who knows nothing of hockey and ask them to name a current player the most frequent response you'll get is Crosby. It's the same as if you asked the best hockey player of all time to someone who doesn't know the sport. You're going to hear Gretzky incredibly frequently, and probably never hear the name Lemieux. History will/has show(n) Gretzky was the greatest to play the sport. There are people who will drill down deeper and get technical and make legitimate arguments that Lemieux is actually the best to play the game just like people can do for a Toews > Crosby argument but that's something completely different than who will go down in history as a better player.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:58:34 PM
Were we actually arguing? I thought we were messing around. Must have misread that situation.

I don't see how something performance based can be a manner of opinion though. If one player is clearly performing at a much higher level than another player in a performance based league, that player is objectively a better player. If it's close, it becomes a little less objective but this isn't one of those cases.

Unless you think Ladd is a better player because he brings better storylines to the team...  :P
ok who's single?  :D I joke around to. Don't forget yer pocket protector. :-[


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 04, 2015, 10:13:56 PM
ok who's single?  :D I joke around to. Don't forget yer pocket protector. :-[

I'm more on the nerd/techy side ;) No pocket protectors but I have spent entire nights discussing video game lore and the like.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on March 05, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
we were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings

He's a three-time Lester B. Pearson Award Winner, two-time MVP, five-time all star, two-time scoring leader, Rocket Richard trophy. And he's only 27.

I think he'll go down as one of the greats.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 05, 2015, 01:16:38 AM
IMO, it's still way too early to know one way or the other who the "better" player will be. Both still have long careers ahead of them.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2015, 02:05:20 AM
Yes, and it's very clear that Crosby will go down in history as a better player than Toews. You started arguing it's because he's shoved down peoples throats and I told you it's because he is clearly seen as a better hockey player by the extremely vast majority of people who follow this sport, and even those who don't. If you go up to someone who knows nothing of hockey and ask them to name a current player the most frequent response you'll get is Crosby. It's the same as if you asked the best hockey player of all time to someone who doesn't know the sport. You're going to hear Gretzky incredibly frequently, and probably never hear the name Lemieux. History will/has show(n) Gretzky was the greatest to play the sport. There are people who will drill down deeper and get technical and make legitimate arguments that Lemieux is actually the best to play the game just like people can do for a Toews > Crosby argument but that's something completely different than who will go down in history as a better player.

Crosby is a great hockey player thats not in doubt i dont think.

Some people dont base their opinion on what everyone tells them and it might even not be based on stats or things they won.

You cant shoot down a persons opinion....   Unless that opinion is based on stats and what others tell you.

Id pick Toews to lead my team over Crosby every day.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2015, 02:49:44 AM
He's a three-time Lester B. Pearson Award Winner, two-time MVP, five-time all star, two-time scoring leader, Rocket Richard trophy. And he's only 27.

I think he'll go down as one of the greats.

of course he will..im clearly not saying hes a bad player, i understand hes a great player...all im saying is that the hockey world tends to shove Crosby down our throats and i get tired of it

Toews has won just as much, besides the scoring titles, and you barely hear a peep...hell, even Doughty


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
of course he will..im clearly not saying hes a bad player, i understand hes a great player...all im saying is that the hockey world tends to shove Crosby down our throats and i get tired of it

Toews has won just as much, besides the scoring titles, and you barely hear a peep...hell, even Doughty
yes and no toews gets his love as well i think.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 05, 2015, 09:33:04 PM
yes and no toews gets his love as well i think.

well..i subscribe to the hockey news magazine...Crosby has been on the cover more times then i care to count...i cant even recall seeing Toews on the cover

before Crosby played an NHL game they compared him to Gretzky...stop the madness!!! :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 06, 2015, 12:06:07 AM
well..i subscribe to the hockey news magazine...Crosby has been on the cover more times then i care to count...i cant even recall seeing Toews on the cover

You must have a selective memory because Toews has been on the cover multiple times.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on March 06, 2015, 12:32:35 AM
http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060 (http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2015, 01:04:41 AM
Stanley Cup wins?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 06, 2015, 01:05:26 AM
Ovie only 12 lol

Is that list include this year?

Dude has almost 45 goals so far

What gives?

Towers number 2  :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
whoa...how did this story get through???

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=756735&navid=DL|NHL|home


somebody let there Crosby radar down for 2 seconds


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 06, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
You must have a selective memory because Toews has been on the cover multiple times.
i just went through 70+ editions....Crosby 7 times...Toews 3...and they were both on 1 cover :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 07, 2015, 01:05:16 AM
i just went through 70+ editions....Crosby 7 times...Toews 3...and they were both on 1 cover :D
why just why? To prove pointless point!

Gotta love the NHL thread on a CFL forum err!

Detroit better beat those god dam Flamers 2-1 winged wheel in the second.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 09, 2015, 12:12:52 PM
The Flames are just unreal in third periods.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 09, 2015, 02:08:39 PM
The Flames are just unreal in third periods.
so are the Sens UGH!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 09, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
why just why? To prove pointless point!

Gotta love the NHL thread on a CFL forum err!




i was bored...get off my case!!!  :D

CFL offseason has to be the most boring thing in the world...at least to me  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 09, 2015, 09:45:32 PM

i was bored...get off my case!!!  :D

CFL offseason has to be the most boring thing in the world...at least to me  :P
ha almost as bad as a New Jersey Devils game!  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 09, 2015, 11:05:30 PM
Stephen Whyno        ✔ @SWhyno
Evgeny Romasko tonight in Oilers-Red Wings becomes first Russian-born referee to work an NHL game.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 11, 2015, 01:53:42 PM
From TSN.ca:

Toronto Maple Leafs President Brendan Shanahan held an impromptu meeting with the media on Wednesday to say forward Nazem Kadri will sit out the next two games. The announcement comes on the heels of Kadri sitting out Monday's game against the New York Islanders for oversleeping and missing a team meeting Sunday.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 11, 2015, 02:10:04 PM
From TSN.ca:

Toronto Maple Leafs President Brendan Shanahan held an impromptu meeting with the media on Wednesday to say forward Nazem Kadri will sit out the next two games. The announcement comes on the heels of Kadri sitting out Monday's game against the New York Islanders for oversleeping and missing a team meeting Sunday.
wow what a mess and what a doosh of a player! It's fun to watch though, it would a fantastic reality show!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2015, 02:17:11 PM
Maybe the worst season in Maple Leafs' history.

Shanahan's gotta be lovin' his gig with the organization... :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 11, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Maybe the worst season in Maple Leafs' history.

Shanahan's gotta be lovin' his gig with the organization... :D
true but I'm sure he's being paid handsomely.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2015, 07:15:56 PM
true but I'm sure he's being paid handsomely.

Is Shanahan just in it for the money, though...? I don't think so.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 11, 2015, 09:52:14 PM
i would take Kadri...just get the good players away from that city already

most in Leaf land are banking on Babcock signing on this summer...like im sure thats just what he wants on his record


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 11, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
Sabers n Leafs tonight

Good grief...  watching 2 teams trying to loose? They should play without goalies just to make it fun to watch.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 11, 2015, 10:12:15 PM
Sabers n Leafs tonight

Good grief...  watching 2 teams trying to loose? They should play without goalies just to make it fun to watch.

ya garbage game.....Sabres have that last place pretty much locked up


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 12, 2015, 02:53:38 AM
How bad losers are they, neither can get away from this game without a point.  They can't even lose right...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 12, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
What gives? Calgary wipes Anaheim? Really, seriously. Playoffs are slipping away daily for the Jets.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on March 12, 2015, 01:02:06 PM
What gives? Calgary wipes Anaheim? Really, seriously. Playoffs are slipping away daily for the Jets.

Calgary was 18-6-1 against divisional opponents going into that game. They seem to have no issues with games that matter the most to them.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 12, 2015, 03:45:47 PM
Calgary was 18-6-1 against divisional opponents going into that game. They seem to have no issues with games that matter the most to them.

Crazy stat. The Flames are just finding ways to win.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 13, 2015, 01:39:16 AM
Man we sure need the Cannucks to beats the Kings clean.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 13, 2015, 01:04:52 PM
Man we sure need the Cannucks to beats the Kings clean.

Not even close. :-[


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 13, 2015, 05:25:29 PM
 Tough go for the jets


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on March 13, 2015, 06:56:42 PM
Man we sure need the Cannucks to beats the Kings clean.


Yes, but I can also still see the Canucks sputtering down the final stretch.

Atleast I hope so ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 14, 2015, 12:56:10 PM

Yes, but I can also still see the Canucks sputtering down the final stretch.

Atleast I hope so ;)
plus I know we play them twice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on March 19, 2015, 12:33:55 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/03/18/nail-yakupov-homeless-dinner-oilers_n_6895994.html


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
Anyone going to watch the Minny-Blues game?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
Anyone going to watch the Minny-Blues game?

Probably not watch it. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the score.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 05:09:39 PM
Probably not watch it. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the score.

Ya me too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 05:41:19 PM
And they quickly go up 2-0.

Sigh.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 05:51:24 PM
And they quickly go up 2-0.

Sigh.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2015, 06:06:34 PM
3-0.

The Blues look like hot garbage today.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
4-0. Elliott gets pulled. Brutal.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Well..  looks like we aint getting any help.

Jets need atleast 1 point tonight for sure.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2015, 06:20:48 PM
Well..  looks like we aint getting any help.

Jets need atleast 1 point tonight for sure.

Jets need two tonight. Gotta keep that winning streak going.

4-1 Wild. Tarasenko nets his 35th on the season.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 06:38:34 PM
Jets need two tonight. Gotta keep that winning streak going.

4-1 Wild. Tarasenko nets his 35th on the season.

LOL  true but ill take 1 and be happy.


This game is crap BTW


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
Calgary has it tied 1-1 with Columbus


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 08:02:44 PM
Calgary has it tied 1-1 with Columbus

LOL   See we get no help... nuffin.

Good grief


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 21, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
Calgary has it tied 1-1 with Columbus

Calgary lost in OT and Canucks beat the Kings.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 10:29:26 PM
Calgary lost in OT and Canucks beat the Kings.

As long as one of them lost clean.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 10:33:00 PM
As long as one of them lost clean.

Yup


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 21, 2015, 10:44:32 PM
As long as one of them lost clean.

Yup, Kings lost 4-1.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 23, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
Devils Vs. Kings tonight  :o


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 23, 2015, 10:16:24 PM
Devils Vs. Kings tonight  :o

Well crap. Think your boys are up to kinda helping us out a bit?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on March 23, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
Well crap. Think your boys are up to kinda helping us out a bit?

doubt it lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 23, 2015, 10:33:17 PM
doubt it lol

Useless.... bloody useless      :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2015, 03:58:38 AM
Useless.... bloody useless      :D

Just like the Leafs. Useless. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 24, 2015, 01:15:55 PM
No sell out at ACC, 16k fans, lowest attendance in ACC history...  is management getting the message yet?  Carlyle might get a write in vote or two for the Jack Adams Trophy. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 24, 2015, 02:55:09 PM
No sell out at ACC, 16k fans, lowest attendance in ACC history...  is management getting the message yet?  Carlyle might get a write in vote or two for the Jack Adams Trophy. 

What message?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 24, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-ilya-kovalchuk-eyeing-return-nhl/

LOL


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
What message?

The fanbase is finally fed up with the organization...? That's my guess, anyway.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-ilya-kovalchuk-eyeing-return-nhl/

LOL

This doesn't surprise me. The KHL is sinking like a stone.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 24, 2015, 06:57:56 PM
The fanbase is finally fed up with the organization...? That's my guess, anyway.

This doesn't surprise me. The KHL is sinking like a stone.

LOL   Ok then.

I thought management already told their fan base that they were going to suck for the next 5 years.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 24, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
The fanbase is finally fed up with the organization...? That's my guess, anyway.

This doesn't surprise me. The KHL is sinking like a stone.
i heard to feeder junior system WILL go bankrupt and KHL sounds like it may follow.

Burmi will need to come play for the Jets :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on March 24, 2015, 10:07:40 PM
Having your salary cut by more than half (when converted to US$) make its a lot less attractive.

Even if the KHL survives, I can't see it being a shadow of its former self, maybe it merges with another league over there, but the NHL is back to being the only place for elite players.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
Jeez, the Kings are hammerin' the Rangers.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 25, 2015, 12:22:18 AM
Jeez, the Kings are hammerin' the Rangers.

No kidding eh

Cmon Islanders.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on March 25, 2015, 12:46:25 AM
No kidding eh

Cmon Islanders.

Wild won.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 25, 2015, 12:55:14 AM
Wild won.

Well crap


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2015, 01:11:59 PM
Well crap

Yeah, the Islanders took a big one in the shootout. >:(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 27, 2015, 02:57:52 PM
Freaking kings keep winning to. Looks like our raid to playoffs will be beating Calgary most likely.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 30, 2015, 04:31:41 PM
Man it sure would be great to see the Flames, Kings, Nuks lose tonight all have tougher opponents.

Flames gonna lose


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 30, 2015, 04:32:51 PM
The outta town scoreboard hasn't been helping at all.

It would sure be nice to see that change tonight.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 30, 2015, 04:38:19 PM
The outta town scoreboard hasn't been helping at all.

It would sure be nice to see that change tonight.
"dear Mr or Mrs Hockey god we been the best fans in the league since the return of our Jets and our boys have scraped and clawed there way all season long especially with multiple massive injury situations. Please help us in regards to the out of town score board the next few nights. Thank you!"


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on March 30, 2015, 04:57:51 PM
Definitely would rather see Cal + Van in the playoffs and the defending champs out. And, it would make it easier to cheer for that if the Jets can pick up 4 pts this week, and LA unexpectedly comes away with a donut vs Chi, Col & Edm this week...but I highly doubt that happens with the latter 2 games being played @ Staples Ctr.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 30, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
Definitely would rather see Cal + Van in the playoffs and the defending champs out. And, it would make it easier to cheer for that if the Jets can pick up 4 pts this week, and LA unexpectedly comes away with a donut vs Chi, Col & Edm this week...but I highly doubt that happens with the latter 2 games being played @ Staples Ctr.
err


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 31, 2015, 01:12:58 AM
"dear Mr or Mrs Hockey god we been the best fans in the league since the return of our Jets and our boys have scraped and clawed there way all season long especially with multiple massive injury situations. Please help us in regards to the out of town score board the next few nights. Thank you!"

It's not working! :-[

Well, it is in Chicago... ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 31, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
It's not working! :-[

Well, it is in Chicago... ::)
only 1/3rds worked dammit! :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 02, 2015, 03:57:59 PM
Mike Kelly ‏@MikeKellyNHL
Keith Yandle is the Arizona Coyotes leading scorer with 41 points. Keith Yandle was traded by the Coyotes a month ago.


And Buffalo will win the McDavid Cup...  how sad is that?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 02, 2015, 04:00:16 PM
Mike Kelly ‏@MikeKellyNHL
Keith Yandle is the Arizona Coyotes leading scorer with 41 points. Keith Yandle was traded by the Coyotes a month ago.


And Buffalo will win the McDavid Cup...  how sad is that?

Why will Buffalo win it?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Stretch on April 02, 2015, 04:23:40 PM
Why will Buffalo win it?

x2. It could be either them or Arizona. They're only separated by 2 points and each has 5 games left.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 02, 2015, 06:49:44 PM
Mike Kelly ‏@MikeKellyNHL
Keith Yandle is the Arizona Coyotes leading scorer with 41 points. Keith Yandle was traded by the Coyotes a month ago.


And Buffalo will win the McDavid Cup...  how sad is that?

Please tell us what is sad about it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 07:40:59 PM
Please tell us what is sad about it.

I think he is just referring to the fact the Yotes have no scorers and Buff may still finish below them and get McDavid.

That said, Eichel is certainly a very sweet consolation prize.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 02, 2015, 07:49:13 PM
I think he is just referring to the fact the Yotes have no scorers and Buff may still finish below them and get McDavid.

That said, Eichel is certainly a very sweet consolation prize.

If anyone but 29 or 30 win the lottery (65% chance of that happening), then 29th gets to pick third overall...  so ensuring Eichel/McDavid means finishing 30th clean.  Otherwise, you have a 2 in 3 chance of not getting either.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 08:23:16 PM
If anyone but 29 or 30 win the lottery (65% chance of that happening), then 29th gets to pick third overall...  so ensuring Eichel/McDavid means finishing 30th clean.  Otherwise, you have a 2 in 3 chance of not getting either.

I understand how the draft lottery works...I was just using an example IF it were to remain the same as it stands today.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 02, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
I understand how the draft lottery works...I was just using an example IF it were to remain the same as it stands today.

If it remains the same as it is today, Arizona only has a 35% chance of getting at least one of the two.  Buffalo would have 100% chance of getting one of them.   


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
Big games tonite...

Let's see a clean sweep of wins...St.L, Hawks, NYR, Avs, Sens & Wings!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 02, 2015, 10:06:03 PM
Big games tonite...

Let's see a clean sweep of wins...St.L, Hawks, NYR, Avs, Sens & Wings!

Yup


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 03, 2015, 02:58:25 AM
Big games tonite...

Let's see a clean sweep of wins...St.L, Hawks, NYR, Avs, Sens & Wings!

not sure why I put the Avs down instead of the Oilers but it doesn't matter now as LA is on their way to a win.

However, all the other real important games for the Jets came in!!!

Cal now maxes out @ 99, but that's with wins over LA and the Jets. Clean wins by LA and the Jets would make the magic number 96.

Things just got a whole lot better for the Jets tonite!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on April 03, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
not sure why I put the Avs down instead of the Oilers but it doesn't matter now as LA is on their way to a win.

However, all the other real important games for the Jets came in!!!

Cal now maxes out @ 99, but that's with wins over LA and the Jets. Clean wins by LA and the Jets would make the magic number 96.

Things just got a whole lot better for the Jets tonite!!

As long as we take care of our own business.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 03, 2015, 03:59:44 PM
As long as we take care of our own business.
X2


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 03, 2015, 04:08:16 PM
X2

 x 3


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 05, 2015, 09:12:57 PM
Gotta love the "news article" on Kane....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/evander-kane-problem-child/

Great excerpt...

Kane has been called a lot of things. Cocky. Selfish. A jerk. In hockey circles, ?distraction? is the popular term. But that?s not how teammates characterize him. In December, Scheifele was delivering straight-faced hockey talk until the ?#pushups? photo came up. ?He got a little ribbing for it,? Scheifele said, grinning. Thorburn brought up the time Kane ?carved? the acronym for ?Young Money Cash Money Billionaires,? into his hair. (Thorburn thought it said ?YMCA? at first.) And the guys in the room had recently given Kane a new nickname: ?Cocktails,? the origins of which Kane called a ?long, long story.? Thorburn got into it: ?We?ll say, ?Let?s go for drinks or for a beer,? and he?ll always use the term ?cocktails.? ?Let?s go out for a cocktail.? And it?s just like??Thorburn paused to laugh??you only hear that in movies, you know? He?s trying to be fancy and play along with his persona. We shut that down pretty quickly.?


Just a normal guy...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 05, 2015, 09:14:57 PM
Love Wozny's takes on twitter:


Adam Wazny @wazoowazny 
Kane texts LOL and uses exclamation marks? NO WAY! He's just like real people!


"Kane will arrange his own interviews via text message (he?ll even write ?lol? and use exclamation marks)..."


Not sure what to make of that Evander Kane-endorsed PR piece on Evander Kane, other than Evander Kane said what Evander Kane wanted to say.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 07, 2015, 01:31:27 PM
Hopefully we can get a Calgary loss tonight against the Yotes!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 11, 2015, 11:57:20 AM
It would be nice to see the Sens get in.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2015, 03:20:25 PM
#Leafs announce Nonis, Horachek, Spott, Dennis, St. Croix have been fired.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 12, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
#Leafs announce Nonis, Horachek, Spott, Dennis, St. Croix have been fired.
that Nonis guy shouldn't be in the league again. He seems to fail everywhere he goes.

Full house cleaning

To be expected there though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2015, 03:49:29 PM
that Nonis guy shouldn't be in the league again. He seems to fail everywhere he goes.

Full house cleaning

To be expected there though.

Ya he sucks


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Zipp on April 12, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
tough market in Toronto...probably shouldn't have fired Carlyle.  Can you imagine being the GM and coach of that team if they ever have some semblance of success?  You would be king of the world - for a short time anyway.

At least they got it over with before the playoffs start...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 12, 2015, 04:15:25 PM
So, how many seconds after Detroit finishes their season does Babcock get a $10mil/yr offer from Toronto?  

Who do they tap for GM?  Steal away a Holland,  do they go after a Slats?  They have to sign someone Big.  Do they get Scotty Bowman to unretire?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 12, 2015, 06:27:48 PM
carlo todaro ‏@juventus777JETS
. The Leafs Brendan Shanahan just got offered a job to write for Game of Thrones , #TheBlueWedding #TMLtalk #LeafsNation #NHL


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2015, 01:28:37 AM
So, how many seconds after Detroit finishes their season does Babcock get a $10mil/yr offer from Toronto?  

Who do they tap for GM?  Steal away a Holland,  do they go after a Slats?  They have to sign someone Big.  Do they get Scotty Bowman to unretire?

Babcock wont go to the Leafs


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
So, how many seconds after Detroit finishes their season does Babcock get a $10mil/yr offer from Toronto?  

Who do they tap for GM?  Steal away a Holland,  do they go after a Slats?  They have to sign someone Big.  Do they get Scotty Bowman to unretire?

$10M/year for a head coach...? LOL :D

No way Holland and/or Babcock leave the stability and consistency of the Red Wings to go attempt to put out the dumpster fire in Toronto.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 13, 2015, 01:48:19 PM
$10M/year for a head coach...? LOL :D

No way Holland and/or Babcock leave the stability and consistency of the Red Wings to go attempt to put out the dumpster fire in Toronto.

Doesn't mean the Leafs won't make an offer though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 01:51:04 PM
Doesn't mean the Leafs won't make an offer though.

I'm sure they will. Babcock is an excellent coach. But not even the likes of he or Holland could get that organization on the right track any time soon. The Leafs are a mess.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 02:26:20 PM
No body in hockey is in it for an easy, cushy job.  They just aren't built for that.

On the other hand, if a new GM and Coach comes into Toronto, and turns the dumpster fire around, can you imagine what they would garner in accolades? 

Hiring a coach away from an established organization with a history of winning will be tough.  Plan B, bring in a crew that did well, but suffered from off ice problems. 

Pittsburgh, Boston, Buffalo all will be in a similar position to Toronto, either having already cleared or about to clear house.  Maybe one of those crews can clean up the mess, or at least get it to the next stage, where you can actually see credibility from. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 02:41:16 PM
No body in hockey is in it for an easy, cushy job.  They just aren't built for that.

The same way nobody is in it to leave a successful and stable situation for the polar opposite.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 02:51:26 PM
The same way nobody is in it to leave a successful and stable situation for the polar opposite.

Except if the money and challenge makes it impossible to say no...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 13, 2015, 05:23:37 PM
Except if the money and challenge makes it impossible to say no...

The Leafs are a tire fire that is going to take several years to put out. They need to win the McDavid lottery and few years of solid drafting to get them out of the mess they are in.

I can see Babcock remaining in Detroit until Shanny can prove that the fire in the big smoke is atleast getting under control.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 05:42:36 PM
The Leafs do have some players and prospects.  They aren't an empty barrel.  Had Carlyle been allowed to finish the year, things might have been a little different. 

The big thing that is attractive about the Leafs is the budget.  Here, we're up against a budget, not a cap.  With playoff revenue now, those might be the same number, but there is always a concern, and with the UFA's coming in the next two years, budget is killer.

The Leafs will spend to the cap without concern.  And having the ability to pick up dead contracts gives them added trade potential.  This is a team that has all the tools a GM could want. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 06:51:05 PM
The Leafs do have some players and prospects.  They aren't an empty barrel.  Had Carlyle been allowed to finish the year, things might have been a little different. 

The big thing that is attractive about the Leafs is the budget.  Here, we're up against a budget, not a cap.  With playoff revenue now, those might be the same number, but there is always a concern, and with the UFA's coming in the next two years, budget is killer.

The Leafs will spend to the cap without concern.  And having the ability to pick up dead contracts gives them added trade potential.  This is a team that has all the tools a GM could want. 

Not an empty barrel, but not brimming with talent, either current or potential. William Nylander is about the best prospect in that barrel.

I'm hesitant to say if there anything attractive about the Leafs organization right now. What's attractive about a raging dumpster fire?

"This is a team that has all the tools in place."
Yeah, to do a complete teardown and rebuild from the ground up, a process which could realistically take four or five years. Why would any GM or HC leave a successful organization to take on such a daunting task? Let's not forget this is Toronto, where fans and the media are about as rabid as you can find. A prospective GM or HC would take such a factor into consideration.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 07:31:04 PM
Of course it is a daunting 4 or 5 year task.  And both the Leaf's owners and management have committed to that.

So, as a GM, you want a 5 year guaranteed deal.

Coach isn't as important as a GM now, getting a guy like Nolan might be a good stopgap. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 07:39:10 PM
Of course it is a daunting 4 or 5 year task.  And both the Leaf's owners and management have committed to that.

So, as a GM, you want a 5 year guaranteed deal.

Coach isn't as important as a GM now, getting a guy like Nolan might be a good stopgap. 

Nonsense. By that logic, Murray wouldn't have fired Nolan in Buffalo. Coaching is just as important as management.

Look what a coaching change did for teams like the Predators, the Capitals, the Canucks, and the Jets.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on April 13, 2015, 07:55:06 PM
I think he means that given the Leaf's situation, the best coach in the world couldn't make a winner with the crap they have. They need a GM to get good players in first before the coaching factor can make a big difference. The teams you listed are certainly good examples of where a coaching change was positive, but the rosters were better than the previous coaches were able to get outta them. A Nolan would definitely be a good start though I think, but they need to concentrate on bringing in the right guys into the rebuild first.

As GM in TO, not a task just anyone would take, but some good people out there enjoy the challenge (and pay cheque TO can offer). Still a tough sell and not just any great GM would jump at that opportunity lol.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2015, 08:43:56 PM
I have a funny feeling TO will hire a up n coming GM. An Asst GM out of somewhere.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 13, 2015, 09:12:01 PM
The Leafs have spent $ foolishly in FA, strapped themselves with some bad contracts that are difficult to move and drafted poorly for far too long. This is not an easy fix.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 10:08:26 PM
The Leafs have spent $ foolishly in FA, strapped themselves with some bad contracts that are difficult to move and drafted poorly for far too long. This is not an easy fix.

Not easy, that's why they need a good GM.  Contracts go away in time.  Waiver wire is easier for crappy teams.  And UFA/RFA offer sheets are a good tool, used wisely.

The Jets are a prime example of a team that has too much in the pantry.  We have too many good prospects, and too many good players under contract.  I'd be surprised to see any of our UFA's back next year.  Toronto can cobble together a nice team from spare parts like that, and start the rebuild.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2015, 10:37:35 PM
Not easy, that's why they need a good GM.  Contracts go away in time.  Waiver wire is easier for crappy teams.  And UFA/RFA offer sheets are a good tool, used wisely.

The Jets are a prime example of a team that has too much in the pantry.  We have too many good prospects, and too many good players under contract.  I'd be surprised to see any of our UFA's back next year.  Toronto can cobble together a nice team from spare parts like that, and start the rebuild.

Guys on TSN were just saying its not likely they hire a big name GM. Shanny will be calling the shots to the rebuild. They dont want a guy to come in and start calling the shots.

Like i said before... they will bring in an Asst GM from another team to kinda groom him.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 12:53:12 AM
Wow, Dutch and Odog tjhink the Jets beat the Ducks, the panel had it as a pick 'em, and Dutch chimes in and breaks the tie backing the Jets...

Awesome...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 14, 2015, 02:57:17 AM
Guys on TSN were just saying its not likely they hire a big name GM. Shanny will be calling the shots to the rebuild. They dont want a guy to come in and start calling the shots.

Like i said before... they will bring in an Asst GM from another team to kinda groom him.

That's probably the best decision. Shanny was brought in to evaluate and then design an action plan to right a ship that is/was horribly off course. The from the ground up rebuild officially began at the TD and it will take a few years before they start to see any measureable results.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 03:55:11 AM
The time to get a quality GM in there is *now*.  Look what Chevy has done in the time he has been at the reins.  Bring in another Nonis, and you'll end up with Edmonton, years of first overall picks, and still miss the playoffs.  No playoffs since 2006, one 40 win season in that time.  They cannot have a Tambellini rebuild.

They need a big gun GM.  And they need him now.

Hopefully, Shanahan doesn't get a good GM and we get to revel in the Leaf's misery until 2067.  They can celebrate the 100th anniversary of the last cup win by winning their next one...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 14, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
The time to get a quality GM in there is *now*.  Look what Chevy has done in the time he has been at the reins.  Bring in another Nonis, and you'll end up with Edmonton, years of first overall picks, and still miss the playoffs.  No playoffs since 2006, one 40 win season in that time.  They cannot have a Tambellini rebuild.

They need a big gun GM.  And they need him now.

Hopefully, Shanahan doesn't get a good GM and we get to revel in the Leaf's misery until 2067.  They can celebrate the 100th anniversary of the last cup win by winning their next one...

I doubt any big name GM will want to go there if Shanny and his 2 buddys are calling the shots.

And you can bet the farm Shanny will be calling the shots.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2015, 12:26:19 PM
Not easy, that's why they need a good GM.  Contracts go away in time.  Waiver wire is easier for crappy teams.  And UFA/RFA offer sheets are a good tool, used wisely.

The Jets are a prime example of a team that has too much in the pantry.  We have too many good prospects, and too many good players under contract.  I'd be surprised to see any of our UFA's back next year.  Toronto can cobble together a nice team from spare parts like that, and start the rebuild.

Maybe you should apply for the job. LOL :D

The Jets are a prime example of a team that has done things right. Your suggestion that too much in the pantry is a problem is absurd.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Maybe you should apply for the job. LOL :D

The Jets are a prime example of a team that has done things right. Your suggestion that too much in the pantry is a problem is absurd.

Too much in the pantry is the best kind of problem you can have.  It is a "problem" caused by our success in drafting and trading.  Choosing which players to dispense of is a lot better position to be in than scraping the bottom of the other teams barrels to fill your roster.  Its going to be a while before we have to look for a UFA that wasn't already playing here to fill a hole in the offseason. 

If Shanahan is going to call the shots, he should take the position and hire an asst GM in training to do the scutwork.  No GM worth his salt will come in if Shanny is going to meddle. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on April 14, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
The time to get a quality GM in there is *now*.  Look what Chevy has done in the time he has been at the reins.  Bring in another Nonis, and you'll end up with Edmonton, years of first overall picks, and still miss the playoffs.  No playoffs since 2006, one 40 win season in that time.  They cannot have a Tambellini rebuild.

They need a big gun GM.  And they need him now.

Hopefully, Shanahan doesn't get a good GM and we get to revel in the Leaf's misery until 2067.  They can celebrate the 100th anniversary of the last cup win by winning their next one...

So your response to two people who were discussing that they should bring in an assistant GM from a team and groom him, is that they shouldn't do that, they should hire a big name GM like Chevy?

When Chevy was brought in here his experience in the NHL was a total of 2 years as an assistant GM of the Hawks. The Jets did exactly what Mud and Nic were discussing.

Bringing a big name GM into the Leafs organization right now sounds like a horrible decision.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2015, 03:53:55 PM
Too much in the pantry is the best kind of problem you can have.  It is a "problem" caused by our success in drafting and trading.  Choosing which players to dispense of is a lot better position to be in than scraping the bottom of the other teams barrels to fill your roster.  Its going to be a while before we have to look for a UFA that wasn't already playing here to fill a hole in the offseason. 

If Shanahan is going to call the shots, he should take the position and hire an asst GM in training to do the scutwork.  No GM worth his salt will come in if Shanny is going to meddle. 

Except it isn't a problem. Having a solid roster and a healthy prospect pipeline gives the Jets a significant advantage. They can retain key pieces while shedding ineffective/aging pieces and replacing them with younger ones. Prospects who need time to develop can do so in the AHL. An embarrassment of riches is never a problem in today's NHL. Can this be said about the Maple Leafs right now? Hell no.

And it isn't about meddling. Shanahan was brought in to oversee the process. That doesn't mean he should appoint himself GM, though. Take a look at what Linden did in Vancouver. I think that's the kind of model Shanahan now hopes to emulate with the Maple Leafs. Hiring a big name GM and/or coach really goes against that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 04:35:55 PM
Except it isn't a problem. Having a solid roster and a healthy prospect pipeline gives the Jets a significant advantage. They can retain key pieces while shedding ineffective/aging pieces and replacing them with younger ones. Prospects who need time to develop can do so in the AHL. An embarrassment of riches is never a problem in today's NHL. Can this be said about the Maple Leafs right now? Hell no.

And it isn't about meddling. Shanahan was brought in to oversee the process. That doesn't mean he should appoint himself GM, though. Take a look at what Linden did in Vancouver. I think that's the kind of model Shanahan now hopes to emulate with the Maple Leafs. Hiring a big name GM and/or coach really goes against that.

No problem watching Zach Redmond toiling for the Av's, putting up 15 min a game, 20 points.  And we got what for him?  Zip?

That's my point.  There are going to be a lot of players that will come through our development structure that we will not have room for, and will go on to have good NHL careers elsewhere. 

Guy's that have come through our system, like Redmond, guys like Pardy, ODell, Cormier...  all UFA, most won't be wearing Jets colours next year.  Too many RFA's, too many prospects that need the chance to move up, for us to keep these guys.  But they, like Redmond, are good enough to play somewhere.

A wonderful problem to have. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2015, 05:05:02 PM
No problem watching Zach Redmond toiling for the Av's, putting up 15 min a game, 20 points.  And we got what for him?  Zip?

That's my point.  There are going to be a lot of players that will come through our development structure that we will not have room for, and will go on to have good NHL careers elsewhere. 

Guy's that have come through our system, like Redmond, guys like Pardy, ODell, Cormier...  all UFA, most won't be wearing Jets colours next year.  Too many RFA's, too many prospects that need the chance to move up, for us to keep these guys.  But they, like Redmond, are good enough to play somewhere.

A wonderful problem to have. 

The Jets let him go. Are they missing him? Not really. Welcome to the NHL of today. You don't always get something in return. This happens to 29 other teams. Did the Avs get anything for Statsny?

Pardy isn't a necessity and didn't come through the Jets' system. O'Dell might have potential in the NHL but he isn't a necessity, either. Cormier looks like a career AHLer and again, isn't a necessity.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 14, 2015, 08:12:02 PM
No problem watching Zach Redmond toiling for the Av's, putting up 15 min a game, 20 points.  And we got what for him?  Zip?

That's my point.  There are going to be a lot of players that will come through our development structure that we will not have room for, and will go on to have good NHL careers elsewhere. 

Guy's that have come through our system, like Redmond, guys like Pardy, ODell, Cormier...  all UFA, most won't be wearing Jets colours next year.  Too many RFA's, too many prospects that need the chance to move up, for us to keep these guys.  But they, like Redmond, are good enough to play somewhere.

A wonderful problem to have. 
Redmond was a Thrashers DP that was 7-8th d-man coming off a horrific injury so getting anything in return for him was not going to be an easy task.

Pardy is a journeyman 6-8th D-man who will likely sign 1-2 yr low end contracts for the remainder of his career whether it be with the Jets or another team.

O'Dell is another Thrashers DP that at this stage can only hope that some team has room on their AHL club for him.

Cormier is quickly running out of time and will be in the same boat as O'Dell.

Losing players such as these guys is due to their perceived ceiling, and not because we have this huge influx of talent pushing them out the door. The re-building of the Jets roster is currently said to be ahead of schedule, however, the AHL roster is still a work in progress and will take a few more years.





Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 14, 2015, 10:20:43 PM
Another thing that is looked at when we let guys go is do they fit into our system. We have 2 guys in Petan and Ehlers that are smaller guick guys. We dont want alot of guys like that on our roster. Look at Odell... Hes got alright size but is he fast enough and agressive enough to fit into our system? we have a number of guys that Maurice and staff will have to look at. They might be good players but they just dont fit.

Redmond was good but im not sure he had the agression we need and you can only have so many guys like that.

This is what GMs mean when they talk about good hockey moves that make sense to there teams.

We seem to be setting the tone we are going to be big fast and mean..... We cant have a bunch of Petans and Ehlers on the roster if thats our identity so we will have to pick n choose what smaller guys we want and what guys we let go.

Another thing for us anyway is we will want guys with leadership quality's. Maurice talks about this alot.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 15, 2015, 02:36:13 PM
Another thing that is looked at when we let guys go is do they fit into our system. We have 2 guys in Petan and Ehlers that are smaller guick guys. We dont want alot of guys like that on our roster. Look at Odell... Hes got alright size but is he fast enough and agressive enough to fit into our system? we have a number of guys that Maurice and staff will have to look at. They might be good players but they just dont fit.

Redmond was good but im not sure he had the agression we need and you can only have so many guys like that.

This is what GMs mean when they talk about good hockey moves that make sense to there teams.

We seem to be setting the tone we are going to be big fast and mean..... We cant have a bunch of Petans and Ehlers on the roster if thats our identity so we will have to pick n choose what smaller guys we want and what guys we let go.

Another thing for us anyway is we will want guys with leadership quality's. Maurice talks about this alot.

Enstrom and Perrault fit nice regardless size... like you said, there is a bigger picture.  Most of the Jets DP's fit a certain style.  Chevy has done pretty darned good.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on April 15, 2015, 03:01:03 PM
You're not wrong Muddy but I do think/hope Chevy will find a place for both Ehlers and Petan. Heck, for all we know, maybe Chevy's plan all along has been to become competitive in the short term by being big and strong and fast, and then transitioning to a skillset-heavy roster down the line?

When you're deep and have a lot in the pipe it's open season for teams with big holes to fill and it may be possible for a Toronto to pick up a Petan for next to nothing, kinda like us picking up Perreault for free from a very loaded Ducks team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 15, 2015, 05:25:02 PM
O'Dell is another Thrashers DP that at this stage can only hope that some team has room on their AHL club for him.

Cormier is quickly running out of time and will be in the same boat as O'Dell.

O'Dell was drafted by the Anaheim Ducks in 2008. Cormier was a NJ Devils draft pick that same year.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 15, 2015, 06:30:35 PM
 I took lightning including Bishop, and New York in the East.  I went with Chicago, St. Louis, Winnipeg in the west.  Go all those teams !!! Especially Winnipeg obviously  :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 15, 2015, 06:48:40 PM
You're not wrong Muddy but I do think/hope Chevy will find a place for both Ehlers and Petan. Heck, for all we know, maybe Chevy's plan all along has been to become competitive in the short term by being big and strong and fast, and then transitioning to a skillset-heavy roster down the line?

When you're deep and have a lot in the pipe it's open season for teams with big holes to fill and it may be possible for a Toronto to pick up a Petan for next to nothing, kinda like us picking up Perreault for free from a very loaded Ducks team.

Oh we will forsure find sports for Petan and Ehlers. But you dont want a team full of them. And i dont think we will switch to a smaller skilled team. We will have them kinda players on our roster but we wont build a team like that. We will continue to build our team with bigger fast agressive guys like Ladd, Wheels, Schief, Lowry Trouba,Buff and Myers.

Playing in the West we will need to stay how we are. Just improve on it.

Another thing we have to remember is most of our DP are going to go more the route of a Shief and not so much Trouba. Once drafted they will need 2 or 3 years to add weight and hone their skills.

Next year i can see Ehlers, Petan and Morrissey making the big team. But then again maybe not LOL

Ehlers will make in foesure IMO hes got mad skill and we really dont have any option really. He cant play in the A and hes way to good to go back to junior.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 16, 2015, 02:40:16 AM
Don't forget, we have guys like Armia and Lemieux that will be in TC next year as well...  and Comrie and Hellbuyck too. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 16, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
Nice win my the Hawks, Flames last night. Hamblurger couldn't stop nothing!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on April 18, 2015, 03:18:44 AM
Listening to the third period Hawks-Preds ... Hawks are getting killed ... 6-2 right now ... Crawford having a miserable night in goal ... Hawks broadcasters taking him to task for a number of things ...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 18, 2015, 04:31:35 AM
From TSN:

Los Angeles Kings centre Jarret Stoll was arrested Friday for suspected cocaine possession at the MGM Grand Hotel's Wet Republic pool complex.

Las Vegas police Lt. Michael Mauntel said Stoll is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

The 32-year-old Stoll is an unrestricted free agent after struggling this season. He had six goals and 11 assists in 73 games, his seventh with Los Angeles after five with Edmonton.

The centre helped the Kings win Stanley Cup titles in 2012 and 2014. Los Angeles missed the playoffs this season.

http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 18, 2015, 01:24:36 PM
From TSN:

Los Angeles Kings centre Jarret Stoll was arrested Friday for suspected cocaine possession at the MGM Grand Hotel's Wet Republic pool complex.

Las Vegas police Lt. Michael Mauntel said Stoll is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

The 32-year-old Stoll is an unrestricted free agent after struggling this season. He had six goals and 11 assists in 73 games, his seventh with Los Angeles after five with Edmonton.

The centre helped the Kings win Stanley Cup titles in 2012 and 2014. Los Angeles missed the playoffs this season.

http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263)
wow what a mess that guy might be. Dating actresses, living in Lala land for that long could due some damage to your habits.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 18, 2015, 01:27:02 PM
I didn't see the Ellers hit that hurt him but he was being a chippy player out there and he might of had it coming. Look like he was trying to hard to get under others guys skins to me.

Preds thrash Hawks. I see that one going 7 now. Same with the Islanders V Caps series. That one has 7 written all over it as well.

Hate to say it but if the Sens get one win they'd be doing well.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 18, 2015, 11:22:10 PM
Oilers?  Sigh....

Any chance his parents can force them to trade him to Phily?  Get Carl and Bonnie on the phone...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 18, 2015, 11:31:18 PM
Oilers?  Sigh....

Any chance his parents can force them to trade him to Phily?  Get Carl and Bonnie on the phone...

HUH?



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on April 19, 2015, 12:54:31 AM
Good one Ards ..... kind of feel bad for Eichel though.
Most likely he will get picked by the Sabres & the butt head Tim Murray. Talk about a GM that dumps on his future 2nd pick.
Said he is here for the 2nd year & again goes home feeling like a loser. Not verbatim but that was the gist.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 19, 2015, 03:03:53 AM
HUH?

Oilers won the draft lottery.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 05:26:57 AM
HUH?



Carl and Bonnie Lindross...

Good one Ards ..... kind of feel bad for Eichel though.
Most likely he will get picked by the Sabres & the butt head Tim Murray. Talk about a GM that dumps on his future 2nd pick.
Said he is here for the 2nd year & again goes home feeling like a loser. Not verbatim but that was the gist.




Can't blame Sabres for being disappointed... but Eichel will be a very good player too.

Kinda karmic though, Buff, Ari and Tor all sold off players and "tanked" Edm played hard to the end.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 19, 2015, 01:34:51 PM
Congrats to Edmonton let the trading begin starting with Eberle


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 02:47:26 PM
Oilers won the draft lottery.

LOL   ya i new that.

Was Aards attempt at a joke that makes absolutely zero sense at a all.

Maybe its just me. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 19, 2015, 02:49:31 PM
It looks like Edmonton is the last place he wanted to go.  Edmonton will do the same thing as this year, play all the draft choices , play a third string goalie , and go for another draft pick next year.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 03:10:44 PM
LOL   ya i new that.

Was Aards attempt at a joke that makes absolutely zero sense at a all.

Maybe its just me. 

Made sense to anyone alive at the time that Eric Lindross was drafted by Quebec.

What would you trade for McDavid?

Edmonton has a lot of talent, they need a "heart" transplant.

Ladd, Buff, Morrissey our two first rounders this year, our first next year and cash?  Would that be enough?  ;D ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 03:35:08 PM
Made sense to anyone alive at the time that Eric Lindross was drafted by Quebec.

What would you trade for McDavid?

Edmonton has a lot of talent, they need a "heart" transplant.

Ladd, Buff, Morrissey our two first rounders this year, our first next year and cash?  Would that be enough?  ;D ;)

LOL    I was alive.... still a stupid joke.

2 worst places he could go.... Leafs and Oilers. Poor kid could help a bad team but he cant fix stupid.

And why even talk about trading? No way they trade that pick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on April 19, 2015, 04:41:23 PM
LOL    I was alive.... still a stupid joke.

2 worst places he could go.... Leafs and Oilers. Poor kid could help a bad team but he cant fix stupid.

And why even talk about trading? No way they trade that pick.

Their GM has already stated - without admitting to who they would draft - that there is a less than 0% chance they will trade the pick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: trapper on April 19, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
This is a generational player we are talking about.  I see this in similar light as the Penguins getting Crosby.  They already had a young Malkin.  They did not have great goal tending.

With Connor...Eberle ... Hall....  I think they will do something in the next couple years...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 07:34:26 PM
This is a generational player we are talking about.  I see this in similar light as the Penguins getting Crosby.  They already had a young Malkin.  They did not have great goal tending.

With Connor...Eberle ... Hall....  I think they will do something in the next couple years...

The Pens had pretty good management and were smart enuff to build a good support system for Malkin and Sid.

The problem for the Oilers is going to be they will have to move atleast 2 guys to build that support system. The Oilers will have little chance of McDavid signing anything long term without him seeing that being built.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 08:05:33 PM
The Pens had pretty good management and were smart enuff to build a good support system for Malkin and Sid.

The problem for the Oilers is going to be they will have to move atleast 2 guys to build that support system. The Oilers will have little chance of McDavid signing anything long term without him seeing that being built.

Thanks to the CBA, they have him for quite a while before they have to worry about losing him.  If they build a competitive team, with him as the core, them why would he leave?  Edm will always have an advantage in signing him, both in money and term.

They have a lot of the pieces, some improvement on D, better coaching and a goalie and they could have something special.  They have the fanbase, they just need something for the fans to cheer.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 08:34:08 PM
Thanks to the CBA, they have him for quite a while before they have to worry about losing him.  If they build a competitive team, with him as the core, them why would he leave?  Edm will always have an advantage in signing him, both in money and term.

They have a lot of the pieces, some improvement on D, better coaching and a goalie and they could have something special.  They have the fanbase, they just need something for the fans to cheer.

He can ask to be moved if he dont like what he sees. Not saying he will but you can bet hes going to want to see a real commitment from them to build around him. I dont know what it is about the Oilers but they seem to suck the life outta players.

They will need to move some guys and get some D and some guys with some kinda leadership. Huge skill wasted there with no focus or leadership. Just a bunch of highly skilled guys running around trying to score 5 goals because you know your going to get 4 scored on you.

And for sure that can be a really good team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on April 19, 2015, 10:21:02 PM
Only in America,I'm watching the Senators-Canadiens playoff game being broadcast by NBC Sports Network,with the play-by-play announcing by Chris Cuthbert(that's how I know NBCSN is broadcasting the game,because besides calling CFL & NHL games for TSN,which you already know,he also calls NHL games for NBC/NBCSN here in the U.S.).


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 19, 2015, 11:07:02 PM
LOL   ya i new that.

Was Aards attempt at a joke that makes absolutely zero sense at a all.

Maybe its just me. 

It's not just you.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on April 20, 2015, 01:46:02 AM
Only in America,I'm watching the Senators-Canadiens playoff game being broadcast by NBC Sports Network,with the play-by-play announcing by Chris Cuthbert(that's how I know NBCSN is broadcasting the game,because besides calling CFL & NHL games for TSN,which you already know,he also calls NHL games for NBC/NBCSN here in the U.S.).

Can we trade Dave Randorf for Chris Cuthbert? Please?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on April 20, 2015, 01:47:31 AM
Quite the similarity, at least in my eyes. how the Sens game went & ended.
Awesome, truly great play from their goalie & the Sens take a 1 - 0 lead late into the third & then in O.T. stick side shot & goal for the Habs.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 20, 2015, 12:19:55 PM
From TSN:

Los Angeles Kings centre Jarret Stoll was arrested Friday for suspected cocaine possession at the MGM Grand Hotel's Wet Republic pool complex.

Las Vegas police Lt. Michael Mauntel said Stoll is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

The 32-year-old Stoll is an unrestricted free agent after struggling this season. He had six goals and 11 assists in 73 games, his seventh with Los Angeles after five with Edmonton.

The centre helped the Kings win Stanley Cup titles in 2012 and 2014. Los Angeles missed the playoffs this season.

http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263)

He must be pretty distraught about not making the playoffs. Poor guy.

This is a generational player we are talking about.  I see this in similar light as the Penguins getting Crosby.  They already had a young Malkin.  They did not have great goal tending.

With Connor...Eberle ... Hall....  I think they will do something in the next couple years...

Crosby alone didn't magically turn around the Penguins.

Thanks to the CBA, they have him for quite a while before they have to worry about losing him.  If they build a competitive team, with him as the core, them why would he leave?  Edm will always have an advantage in signing him, both in money and term.

They have a lot of the pieces, some improvement on D, better coaching and a goalie and they could have something special.  They have the fanbase, they just need something for the fans to cheer.

How do you figure? With players like Eberle, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins... They work with the same cap space as 29 other teams. McDavid won't magically fix what ails with the Oilers.

Can we trade Dave Randorf for Chris Cuthbert? Please?

Or anyone not employed by Sportsnet? Such arid coverage of hockey.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 20, 2015, 11:09:32 PM
Nicholson takes job as ceo of oilers, coincides days later of Edmonton winning the lottery draft.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: trapper on April 21, 2015, 02:02:04 PM

Crosby alone didn't magically turn around the Penguins.

Never said nor implied that he did.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 21, 2015, 08:08:17 PM
Nicholson takes job as ceo of oilers, coincides days later of Edmonton winning the lottery draft.

(http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1664)

Never said nor implied that he did.

Then what are you trying to say? And the Penguins did have great goaltending when Crosby was drafted. He's the current starting goalie for the Penguins.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: trapper on April 21, 2015, 11:46:38 PM


Then what are you trying to say? And the Penguins did have great goaltending when Crosby was drafted. He's the current starting goalie for the Penguins.

I am saying a superstar was added to a roster that had other really good young players. 

Great goaltending?  Fleury? On what grounds could he be considered great?  At best he's above average.  You look at his gaa and his save % and he's pretty middle of the road.  For the playoffs he's even worse than that.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 22, 2015, 02:40:31 AM
Crosby turned the Penguins around almost single handedly.  Take out Crosby and the Penguins wouldnt have made  the playoffs .


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 22, 2015, 02:45:50 AM
Why didnt Nicholson go after a real challenge and look for a job with the Leafs. The Oilers? Anyone running that team as a CEO doesnt have to be a great hockey mind after 6 first round picks there waiting for them. Taking a CEO job with the Oilers is not much of a challenge in hockey.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on April 22, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
Chiarelli in Edmonton to discuss a job...

They might be onto something there...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on April 22, 2015, 06:57:17 PM
Chiarelli in Edmonton to discuss a job...

They might be onto something there...

Chiarelli would be a smart hire. Experience with a winner, has connections and is well respected.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on April 22, 2015, 07:25:20 PM
Nicholson takes job as ceo of oilers, coincides days later of Edmonton winning the lottery draft.

Nicholson was hired as Vice-Chairman of OEG last summer. He did an audit of the entire organization (including Hockey Operations) and was hired as CEO of Oilers shortly after he finished it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2015, 07:24:33 PM
It's official:

http://www.tsn.ca/chiarelli-the-new-man-in-charge-in-edmonton-1.265198 (http://www.tsn.ca/chiarelli-the-new-man-in-charge-in-edmonton-1.265198)

Peter Chiarelli was named president of hockey operations and general manager while Patrick LaForge stepped down as president and chief operating officer. In addition, Kevin Lowe will transition out of hockey operations but remain vice-chair of Oilers Entertainment Group while Craig MacTavish will move from GM to a role to be determined.

Big move by the Oilers.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on April 25, 2015, 11:52:24 PM
No offence to anyone,but here is a Stanley Cup final I bet nobody wants to see,the Tampa Bay Lightning versus the Nashville Predators.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 26, 2015, 12:26:50 AM
No offence to anyone,but here is a Stanley Cup final I bet nobody wants to see,the Tampa Bay Lightning versus the Nashville Predators.
lol I'll take that bet on a NAH!!! :D :-*


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ModAdmin on April 26, 2015, 06:04:59 AM
Wow.  Canucks up 3-0 in the game and then lose it.  They need major player changes on that team. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 26, 2015, 04:41:09 PM
No offence to anyone,but here is a Stanley Cup final I bet nobody wants to see,the Tampa Bay Lightning versus the Nashville Predators.

Won't happen.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
Blues out again in the first round. The San Jose Sharks of the Central Division.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on April 27, 2015, 01:09:11 PM
Blues out again in the first round. The San Jose Sharks of the Central Division.

They've been doing it since before we were even an idea for a franchise. If anything the Sharks are the Blues of the Pacific.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 03:20:39 PM
They've been doing it since before we were even an idea for a franchise. If anything the Sharks are the Blues of the Pacific.

In any case, three straight years getting booted in the first round. Regular season juggernauts, but post-season weaklings. It's pretty weird.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on April 27, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
In any case, three straight years getting booted in the first round. Regular season juggernauts, but post-season weaklings. It's pretty weird.

I dunno. I look at their roster and coach and it seems pretty obvious to me.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 03:36:22 PM
I dunno. I look at their roster and coach and it seems pretty obvious to me.

What do you mean? Is the players or the coach? Or both...?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on April 27, 2015, 03:56:21 PM
What do you mean? Is the players or the coach? Or both...?

Both


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 03:58:21 PM
Both

Seems spot on. I wonder if the Blues dismantle and start a rebuild.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 29, 2015, 12:11:11 PM
Kronwall suspended for tonight's game 7.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on April 29, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
Kronwall suspended for tonight's game 7.
wow

I like the call


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 29, 2015, 06:40:16 PM
Zidlicky out with a concussion. Yikes.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on April 30, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
Sorry Red Wings fans,but congrats to the Lightning. I think that the Canadiens will advance to the finals in the east,& I hope that the Blackhawks will advance in the West,but it probably will be the Anaheim Ducks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on April 30, 2015, 06:35:16 PM
Next season I'm pulling for a Nashville Predators-Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup finals.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on April 30, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
Next season I'm pulling for a Nashville Predators-Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup finals.

I think you might be the only person that would watch that matchup in the finals.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
Next season I'm pulling for a Nashville Predators-Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup finals.

LOL

Good luck with that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 01, 2015, 01:45:07 AM
Could you think of anything MORE unnatural than a Hurricanes-Predators Stanley Cup Finals? ;)

 Meanwhile,back to the Ducks-Flames game,CRAP,the Ducks scored again. >:(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 01, 2015, 02:19:23 AM
Are/were the Jets a more physical team than the Flames? The Flames are getting totally outclassed by the Ducks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on May 01, 2015, 11:52:18 AM
Are/were the Jets a more physical team than the Flames? The Flames are getting totally outclassed by the Ducks.

Absolutely. There was a lot of rah-rah when the Flames beat the Canucks but I didn't really think Vancouver was that tough compared the Anaheim. As we found out, the Ducks are in a class of their own and only Chicago can beat them IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 01, 2015, 12:10:47 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the series goes as the jets at least fought these Ducks game in game out. Flames just got out classed! Good luck with that flamers!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 01, 2015, 01:22:32 PM
The Ducks put on a clinic last night. It's not much consolation, but at least the Jets never got blown out by the Ducks.

I really hope the Flames can turn things around on Sunday.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on May 01, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
great year for our Jets & the upstart Flames, both whom, no doubt, will even be better next year. However the Ducks are deserved of going forward


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 01, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
I'm still pulling for the Chicago Blackhawks from the West & the Montreal Canadiens from the East to be in the Stanley Cup finals,but I think maybe the ironic outcome will be the Anaheim Ducks from the West & the Washington Capitals from the East. So far,the Washington Capitals are uncharacteristically NOT CHOKING.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 01, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
IceCaps new name and logo will be unveiled on Monday:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2 (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 01, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
IceCaps new name and logo will be unveiled on Monday:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2 (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2)





Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 02, 2015, 02:01:49 AM
Come on Canadiens & Rangers,because I AM JUST NOT FEELING a Tampa Bay Lightning-Washington Capitals NHL East Final.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 02, 2015, 02:05:03 AM
***,the Blackhawks & Wild are tied??????


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
meh, anti climatic Hawks pull it out anyways.

Lightning could strangle hold montreal with another win in La Belle Province.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 04, 2015, 02:47:25 AM
Someone please hear my humble plea,IF somehow the Tampa Bay Lightning do make it to the finals,PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE DO NOT let Brooke Hogan(Hulk Hogan's daughter) sing the national anthem again like she did the last time that they were in the finals.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 04, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
meh, anti climatic Hawks pull it out anyways.

Lightning could strangle hold montreal with another win in La Belle Province.

Anti-climactic? ???

The Habs and the Flames are done, IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on May 04, 2015, 12:41:09 PM
Not a flag waver in the playoffs, so I anticipate & cheer on the Ducks & Bolts


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 04, 2015, 05:34:32 PM
Not a flag waver in the playoffs, so I anticipate & cheer on the Ducks & Bolts

 ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 05, 2015, 11:48:51 AM
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).
ugh!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 05, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).

One of the sunbelt teams actually doing well, IIRC. I'm sure you're being half serious but I doubt the Lightning would ever move.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 05, 2015, 11:50:54 PM
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).

Pretty weird post.   ???



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 06, 2015, 02:53:46 AM
Just being sarcastic about the Tampa Bay Lighting. Disneyworld is in Orlando,FL,& Disneyland is in Anaheim. That would no doubt be the ONLY thing interesting about a Ducks-Lightning Stanley Cup finals IF the Lightning where in Orlando instead of Tampa Bay. Anyway,I have succumbed to the "Magic Kingdom," Go Ducks!!!
 The only original 6 team not disappointing me are the Blackhawks. I looked for yesterday's gametime between the New York Rangers & the Washington Capitals & my guide said "Rangers at Capitals," but my dylexia misinterpreted that as "Rangers at Capitalists." I went to sleep in the middle of the game,& when I woke up to see what the final score was,my only response to the final score was,"the Capitalists won."

 Would it be safe to say that the Stanley Cup winner will come out of the Western conference?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 06, 2015, 03:07:12 AM
Final statement for right now,if both the Canadiens & Rangers are eliminated,& the Ducks do make it to the finals,I want to see them match up against the Washington Capitals,because the Duck's head coach,Bruce Boudreau,was formerly the head coach of the Washington Capitals before the Caps fired him,& that would be sweet revenge if the Ducks defeat the Caps.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 06, 2015, 03:56:21 AM
That was the worst call Ive seen in a long time. Maybe the worst call in judgement for no goal ever. No goal and the puck can be seen rebounded off the goalies pads a few inches past the line and they call no goal. That beats all .


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 06, 2015, 10:53:31 AM
Good on the Flames for the win - if that's not overcoming adversity, then I don't know what is.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 06, 2015, 12:14:19 PM
Good on the Flames for the win - if that's not overcoming adversity, then I don't know what is.

Less than 19 seconds to go and Johnny Hockey torches Andersen. That was a beauty of a goal to force OT.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on May 06, 2015, 07:09:03 PM
That was the worst call Ive seen in a long time. Maybe the worst call in judgement for no goal ever. No goal and the puck can be seen rebounded off the goalies pads a few inches past the line and they call no goal. That beats all .

I didn't see the game but from all of the videos I have seen since, not a single one provides a conclusive angle. The puck appears to be in the air which can cause a goal to look like it's in even though it's not from the angles given (For example, Calgary in '04).

Chances are very good that this puck was actually in, but there is no video proving without a doubt that this was the case so there's not much that can be done.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 07, 2015, 12:50:22 PM
What a finish in Tampa Bay last night. The Capitals have sure pushed the Rangers. Round 2 has been pretty exciting so far.

Jack Adams Coach of The Year nominations: Vigneault, Hartley and Laviolette.

http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851 (http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 07, 2015, 05:37:43 PM
What a finish in Tampa Bay last night. The Capitals have sure pushed the Rangers. Round 2 has been pretty exciting so far.

Jack Adams Coach of The Year nominations: Vigneault, Hartley and Laviolette.

http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851 (http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851)
no PauMau boooo!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 07, 2015, 09:51:32 PM
If that goal wasn't conclusive then maybe its time to get eyes checked or upgrade your tv.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2015, 02:08:04 AM
Habs stay alive in pretty convincing fashion.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on May 08, 2015, 02:20:25 AM
If that goal wasn't conclusive then maybe its time to get eyes checked or upgrade your tv.

Don't own a TV, it's 2015.

That goal wasn't conclusive, if it were, it would have been ruled a goal. Maybe you should research what perspective is.

Start with these photos:
http://i.imgur.com/O8I15M1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ehywB4y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TrT7z2N.jpg


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2015, 03:08:43 AM
Looks like the Wild aren't going to make a series out of this one.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on May 08, 2015, 03:21:42 AM
Looks like the Wild aren't going to make a series out of this one.

Didn't hold a lead for a second of that series. That must have been tough to watch for Wild fans.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2015, 03:22:22 AM
Didn't hold a lead for a second of that series. That must have been tough to watch for Wild fans.

Yeah, the Wild's magic seemed to have run out. Crazy finish tonight, though!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 09, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
Your photos prove conclusively it was a goal. So you do need your eyes checked. Dont buy a television and in debt.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 09, 2015, 12:38:58 AM
Don't own a TV, it's 2015.

That goal wasn't conclusive, if it were, it would have been ruled a goal. Maybe you should research what perspective is.

Out of curiosity what were you watching the game on? Phone? Tablet? Streaming on computer?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on May 09, 2015, 05:37:25 AM
Your photos prove conclusively it was a goal. So you do need your eyes checked. Dont buy a television and in debt.

You seriously don't understand the rules of this sport either, do you?

The puck has to completely cross the red line.

I'm not even sure what your last sentence is trying to convey.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on May 09, 2015, 05:38:55 AM
Out of curiosity what were you watching the game on? Phone? Tablet? Streaming on computer?

I stream games to my PC.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 09, 2015, 12:26:42 PM
Looks like Cagary is dead in the water! And right before Giordano comes back as well :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 10, 2015, 06:37:40 PM
Hate to say it but Flames get curb stomped tonight.

Caps close out Rangers as well.

I think the Habs capital me back to beat the Lightning to.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 11, 2015, 10:52:12 AM
Rangers and Habs look poised to make come-from-behind series wins.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe the hawks are the only team to not give up 3rd period leads against the ducks?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on May 11, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
Overtime loss... what a curbstomp.. ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 11, 2015, 02:10:00 PM
Hate to say it but Flames get curb stomped tonight.

Caps close out Rangers as well.

LOL :D

That crystal ball of yours must be drunk.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 12, 2015, 06:02:01 AM
Bryan Burns @BBurnsNHL
Ryan Callahan had an emergency appendectomy tonight at Tampa General and his return to the ice is undetermined at this point. #TBLightning


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 13, 2015, 04:00:20 AM
Habs are out. I guess the Price wasn't right and you need more than just goaltending.

I'm looking forward to seeing which team the Lightning will face.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 13, 2015, 01:22:23 PM
rangers/caps could go either way.

Excited for the Ducks/hawks series.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 13, 2015, 11:29:06 PM
Ovie shoots scores


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on May 14, 2015, 03:57:46 AM
RANGERS WIN     the RANGERS WIN .................................... Excellant


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 14, 2015, 02:53:54 PM
There's a new drink Called the "Ovechkin"....a white russian, on ice - no cup.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 14, 2015, 03:05:57 PM
According to The Score, it sounds like the Oilers are closing in on hiring Todd McLellan.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 14, 2015, 05:33:32 PM
I dislike Lundqvist and the Rangers.

I'd like to se Chicago take it all down again if I had to pick a survivor.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on May 14, 2015, 07:32:53 PM
Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk urgently needs a liver transplant and the NHL club has put out a call for potential "live donor." The team says Melnyk was admitted to hospital three weeks age due to "liver-related complications."
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-owner-melnyk-turns-to-public-for-liver-donor-1.283147 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-owner-melnyk-turns-to-public-for-liver-donor-1.283147)

And speaking of Ovi... He has announced that he will be going to Prague to join Team Russia for the remainder of the WHC.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 15, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
As far as the eastern conference goes,I can care less who wins & makes it to the finals,but I'm pulling for the Blackhawks in the western conference.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on May 20, 2015, 11:49:07 AM
Triple OT to settle last night's WCF.

Check out the highlights and Shaw's headbutted (rightfully disallowed) goal, it was pretty sweet


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2015, 12:24:29 PM
Triple OT to settle last night's WCF.

Check out the highlights and Shaw's headbutted (rightfully disallowed) goal, it was pretty sweet.

What a game. Longest playoff game in Blackhawks' history.

Shaw gets an A for effort on that header. But that was an illegal goal through and through.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2015, 07:08:02 PM
Mike Babcock to the Maple Leafs for 8 years at $50M... Crazy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on May 20, 2015, 08:38:46 PM
Mike Babcock to the Maple Leafs for 8 years at $50M... Crazy.

I'm glad I wasn't browsing the internet the couple of hours beforehand because seeing that at one point it was down to Toronto, St. Louis, and San Jose with St. Louis looking unlikely would have drove me nuts.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on May 21, 2015, 01:46:12 AM
Kessel will now learn to be a complete player or it will be hit the road time cause Babcock won't stand for it.

Last night's O.T by 3 was fantastic entertainment (well between yawns at least great) & the goalies were super.
Shaws header is something I will not soon forget ............. creative & looks real sweet in slo mo

Game tonight is worth watching


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 21, 2015, 02:17:29 AM
My 2 bits..

Babcock taking his money. Huge payday.

What he actually needs to produce in TO is very little. Hes the HC and he can only do whats given to him.

He took the money. TO will not be good in 3 years.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 21, 2015, 12:51:18 PM
Maybe all that money and all that term will force Toronto to be patient and stick to a plan for once...maybe.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 21, 2015, 12:53:32 PM
Leafs took a good step forward with getting Babcock. But holy cow - for $50 Million.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on May 21, 2015, 01:21:49 PM
Remember, Toronto traded for Nathan Horton, a player they can eat millions of dollars of salary on because his contract is guaranteed and Hortion is on the IR and may never play again.  This team has huge resources to eat non cap money all day long.  $50 mil to get the guy regarded as the best free agent in this years market?  Peanut money.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 21, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
Not too bad of a read: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/good-luck-with-the-maple-leafs-mike-babcock-you%e2%80%99re-going-to-need-it/ar-BBk1wj7?ocid=iehp (http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/good-luck-with-the-maple-leafs-mike-babcock-you%e2%80%99re-going-to-need-it/ar-BBk1wj7?ocid=iehp)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2015, 02:54:24 PM
Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov calls for ban on young Russians playing in NHL

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html)

MOSCOW - Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov has called for Russia to reintroduce Soviet-style restrictions to prevent promising young hockey players from moving to the NHL.

Fetisov, who is now a senator in Russia, tells Russia's R-Sport news agency that federal law should be used to stop Russian players from moving to North America before they turn 28.

The aim is to keep "our most talented guys, the ones who the people come to see."

Fetisov was one of the first players to benefit from the relaxation of Soviet-era rules which prevented any hockey players from leaving. He moved to the NHL in 1989 with the New Jersey Devils when he was 31, and went on to win two Stanley Cups with the Red Wings.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 22, 2015, 04:19:47 PM
Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov calls for ban on young Russians playing in NHL

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html)

MOSCOW - Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov has called for Russia to reintroduce Soviet-style restrictions to prevent promising young hockey players from moving to the NHL.

Fetisov, who is now a senator in Russia, tells Russia's R-Sport news agency that federal law should be used to stop Russian players from moving to North America before they turn 28.

The aim is to keep "our most talented guys, the ones who the people come to see."

Fetisov was one of the first players to benefit from the relaxation of Soviet-era rules which prevented any hockey players from leaving. He moved to the NHL in 1989 with the New Jersey Devils when he was 31, and went on to win two Stanley Cups with the Red Wings.


Lol to that last line. Seriously Russians are really losing their minds over there. Politics creeping into sport is a sure sign of growing diplomatic tension. Not good at all.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2015, 05:31:01 PM
Lol to that last line. Seriously Russians are really losing their minds over there. Politics creeping into sport is a sure sign of growing diplomatic tension. Not good at all.

It's a last ditch effort to retain Russian players. They can't pay them, so might as well force them to say. What a disgrace. I expected better from Fetisov, to be honest.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 22, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
It's a last ditch effort to retain Russian players. They can't pay them, so might as well force them to say. What a disgrace. I expected better from Fetisov, to be honest.

I know this is a hockey discussion but we should all be taking note about what's going on in Russia right now. Things are trending in a scary direction.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 23, 2015, 12:18:02 PM
Fetisov should worry more about what his country is doing to others and not worry about his hockey buddies. Now he is a senator? No wonder they all think like Putin .


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 23, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
I know this is a hockey discussion but we should all be taking note about what's going on in Russia right now. Things are trending in a scary direction.

Oh, I couldn't agree more. Russia seems to be adopting its Soviet strategy of isolation once again and it's sure making its close neighbours nervous.

Anyways, veering off-topic - especially into world politics - should be avoided here. I just found interesting someone like Fetisov, a Russian who got his chance to play hockey thanks to the NHL, is now seemingly so anti-NHL as the KHL continues to crumble.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 26, 2015, 12:10:15 AM
I think that I'm starting to warm up to the potential of an Anaheim Ducks-Tampa Bay Lightning Stanley Cup finals(Ducks versus the Triplets). I also have to agree with the talking heads that there is no team in the east who can stand up to the Ducks physically.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 26, 2015, 12:44:33 AM
I know this is a hockey discussion but we should all be taking note about what's going on in Russia right now. Things are trending in a scary direction.

Jus gotta say... America has gone off and killed more people and caused more chaos and made the world much more scary then Russia ever has. ISIS is a pretty scary deal.

Anyway... I have zero issue with them wanting to keep their players. The NHL is a bit of a weird deal for sports. Its World wide and all hockey players want to play in it. Not sure i can think of another league in another sport like it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 26, 2015, 08:05:30 PM
Ducks take the cup Vs TB in 5

There I said it!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on May 28, 2015, 01:01:16 PM
Ducks take the cup Vs TB in 5

There I said it!!

for awhile I was thinking the same thing. But now Rangers and Hawks have forced a game 7.

Would be nice to see another original 6 final...but the beach series could be a clear sweep for the ducks if that happens.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 30, 2015, 01:43:28 AM
Someone on another board I visit believes that a Ducks-Lightning final is going to be a ratings killer,but I'm of the opinion that people watching the play-offs now aren't going to stop watching just because the Ducks & Lightning advance. Honestly they are stronger teams than the Blackhawks & Rangers,& they'll make a better series.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 30, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
Honestly they are stronger teams than the Blackhawks & Rangers,& they'll make a better series.

That's simply your opinion. Any of the final four teams facing off in the SCF would make for a great series. Considering both conference finals went the distance to seven games, it's pretty nonsensical to suggest the Lightning and the Ducks are stronger teams than the Rangers and the Blackhawks.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 30, 2015, 08:09:54 PM
The Lightning showed that they were stronger than the Rangers by defeating them & advancing to the finals,we'll see tonight concerning the Blachawks & the Ducks. My point is more so about people saying that a possible Ducks-Lightning Stanley Cup finals would be a tv ratings killer,& my point was that people watching the Stanley Cup now,won't stop watching because it COULD be the Ducks & Lightning in the finals. I admit,I wasn't keen on the idea,but both series going to 7 games changed my mind & I'm going to keep watching.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 31, 2015, 12:00:26 AM
My point is more so about people saying that a possible Ducks-Lightning Stanley Cup finals would be a tv ratings killer,& my point was that people watching the Stanley Cup now,won't stop watching because it COULD be the Ducks & Lightning in the finals.

If your point was about TV ratings, why opine on the strength of a team? ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 31, 2015, 12:38:01 AM
Wow... Those Ducks are clearly the stronger team. :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on May 31, 2015, 01:54:13 AM
Always have a back-up plan....& team.
 One of the talking heads last night said that a Blackhawks-Lightning series would be Star Trek Warp Speed fast,who'll have home ice advantage betwen the two teams?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 31, 2015, 01:55:33 AM
Always have a back-up plan....& team.
 One of the talking heads last night said that a Blackhawks-Lightning series would be Star Trek Warp Speed fast,who'll have home ice advantage betwen the two teams?

Lightning get home ice advantage.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 01, 2015, 11:28:49 AM
Hawks absolutely deserved the series win. What a grind.

Bolts Vs Haws... did ANYONE have this down as a series final?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 01, 2015, 11:56:25 AM
Super happy for Toews


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on June 01, 2015, 11:47:20 PM
So apparently Tampa is allowing only Florida residents to buy tickets to the Lighting games.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/bernstein-tampa-bay-lightning-ticket-policy-is-pathetic/


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2015, 12:35:54 AM
So apparently Tampa is allowing only Florida residents to buy tickets to the Lighting games.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/bernstein-tampa-bay-lightning-ticket-policy-is-pathetic/

This has been ongoing the entire post-season since the first round against the Red Wings. It's beyond pathetic. Nashville did this, too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 02, 2015, 11:17:18 AM
This has been ongoing the entire post-season since the first round against the Red Wings. It's beyond pathetic. Nashville did this, too.

this a thing??? I know there's a lot of clubs that try to boost promotion for their teams to try to get home crowd sell outs, as opposed to travelling fans...Wild come to mind to stop Jets fans from buying tickets... but none that I've seen to actually BAN outside fans from watching their visiting teams.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2015, 03:45:50 PM
this a thing??? I know there's a lot of clubs that try to boost promotion for their teams to try to get home crowd sell outs, as opposed to travelling fans...Wild come to mind to stop Jets fans from buying tickets... but none that I've seen to actually BAN outside fans from watching their visiting teams.

It's honestly ridiculous and just speaks to a serious lack of sportsmanship. If visiting fans want to fill empty seats and generate revenue, how is that a bad thing?

I didn't know the Wild were part of that group. Talk about classless.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 04, 2015, 11:30:17 AM
Was reading through my twitter feed last night... apparently fans wearing Hawks jersey's were charged $79 for a beer. another young woman wearing a hawks jersey was handed call girl cards and basically verbally harrassed.

Don't know how much truth there is to this, especially with the beer pricing - but if the Lightening organization has any decency they're going to address this NOW.

I know there's idiots in every fan base (Jets fans have been the subject as well)...but I guess the ones wearing the red jerseys walked out of that arena with the smile on their face.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 04, 2015, 01:20:50 PM
Was reading through my twitter feed last night... apparently fans wearing Hawks jersey's were charged $79 for a beer. another young woman wearing a hawks jersey was handed call girl cards and basically verbally harrassed.

Don't know how much truth there is to this, especially with the beer pricing - but if the Lightening organization has any decency they're going to address this NOW.

I know there's idiots in every fan base (Jets fans have been the subject as well)...but I guess the ones wearing the red jerseys walked out of that arena with the smile on their face.

Canadiens and Rangers fans in the arena wearing jerseys for their team have been forced to lose the jersey or be ejected. Probably happened with Wings fans as well. As BG84 mentioned the Lightning organization has been pathetic throughout the postseason.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2015, 04:06:29 PM
Canadiens and Rangers fans in the arena wearing jerseys for their team have been forced to lose the jersey or be ejected. Probably happened with Wings fans as well. As BG84 mentioned the Lightning organization has been pathetic throughout the postseason.

It's beyond classless. This is a disgusting policy and the organization should be ashamed for this lack of sportsmanship.

Quite a snorefest of a game 1 last night. Apparently, the Lightning didn't watch the Jets' first round... You don't sit back and protect a one-goal lead in the playoffs.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 04, 2015, 04:08:52 PM
Canadiens and Rangers fans in the arena wearing jerseys for their team have been forced to lose the jersey or be ejected. Probably happened with Wings fans as well. As BG84 mentioned the Lightning organization has been pathetic throughout the postseason.

Pretty sure there are "Lightning only" sections of the arena, basically where the TV cameras pan.   There are places to wear your opponents shirts.  

It is a dick move, really.  Restricting ticket sales, and apparel choices goes against what hockey and competition is all about.  If anything, it creates a negative atmosphere, with home fans misbehaving towards the opposition.  

Sell tickets to everyone, and enforce the ticket back restrictions on excessive alcohol consumption and abusive behaviour.  Pretty simple, really.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 04, 2015, 04:27:03 PM
Pretty sure there are "Lightning only" sections of the arena, basically where the TV cameras pan.   There are places to wear your opponents shirts.  

It is a dick move, really.  Restricting ticket sales, and apparel choices goes against what hockey and competition is all about.  If anything, it creates a negative atmosphere, with home fans misbehaving towards the opposition.  

Sell tickets to everyone, and enforce the ticket back restrictions on excessive alcohol consumption and abusive behaviour.  Pretty simple, really.

They have claimed it is only in select areas(Club, Lounge, and one part of section 102 or something like that) but I have seen pictures of ushers/security making Ranger fans remove their jerseys/hats/etc in sections outside of those they claim are the only ones they will do this in (Not that it's even okay to do this in select areas).

From the sounds of it, it is definitely creating an atmosphere that encourages misbehaving towards opposing fans.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2015, 04:55:20 PM
From the sounds of it, it is definitely creating an atmosphere that encourages misbehaving towards opposing fans.

Precisely. This is a poor business practice and only fuels animosity.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: buckzumhoff on June 04, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
I couldn't believe it when I heard it . How can they tell someone what they cant wear. Florida owners don't care how small of attendance they get through regular season because the teams are just a tax write off and they don't need to make a profit.  Chicago fans should litter the ice and make them look bad wearing Tampa bay uniforms.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 05, 2015, 03:33:56 PM
I thought this was a joke... But apparently, it isn't:

http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2015/sports/lightning/bandwagon/ (http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2015/sports/lightning/bandwagon/)

(http://lockerroom.johnlocke.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/picarddoublefacepalm.jpg)

And I used to think the Lightning fanbase was among the best of the sunbelt franchises... :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 05, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
Another biting controversy... ::)

http://www.tsn.ca/shaw-doesn-t-deny-biting-hedman-1.300845 (http://www.tsn.ca/shaw-doesn-t-deny-biting-hedman-1.300845)

TAMPA, Fla. - Andrew Shaw didn't deny biting Victor Hedman in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup final. He just doesn't want to talk about it anymore.

"I mean it's a hockey game," Shaw said Friday. "He's one of the best players and he's a highly skilled, big, strong defenceman with a lot of speed and he went after one of our better players.

"It creates the scrums, and just battle out there. I expect battles with him at the front of the net the rest of the series, as well."

The Chicago Blackhawks forward said he wasn't "going to get into the details."

The Tampa Bay Lightning's top defenceman similarly didn't want to comment on the biggest controversy of Game 1.

"Things happen during games," Hedman said. "I'll leave it at that."

Hedman shoved Blackhawks star Patrick Kane into the boards after a whistle late in the first period, and Shaw went after him. Upon returning to the bench, Hedman lifted up his jersey and appeared to tell assistant athletic trainer Mike Poirier that Shaw bit him.

"Everyone who watched that could see what I said," Hedman said. "If you saw that, I don't have to say anymore."

Hedman brushed off Shaw not being disciplined by the NHL for biting, saying: "It's hockey."

The 23-year-old Shaw isn't concerned about retaliation from the Lightning.

"I expect they're going to come out and play hard," he said. "They're a great team with a lot of skill, a lot of speed. It's going to be a long series."


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 07, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Gotta say I'm sick of hockey it just goes on to long!

It would be good if Chicago just comes out and wins 4-1 and puts a bloody end to it all!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 09, 2015, 11:26:03 AM
That won't happen, seeing as how they're down 2-1.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 09, 2015, 02:54:11 PM
That won't happen, seeing as how they're down 2-1.

Another late-game collapse by the Hawks. On home ice, too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 11, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Despite a brutal start, the Hawks find a way to finish. Series tied going back to TB.

In other hockey news, Glendale pulls a classy move:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250)

During a special meeting convened Wednesday night that featured threats of a $200-million lawsuit and emotional fans wearing team jerseys, city councillors in Glendale, Arizona, voted to cancel the arena management contract that sees the city pay $15 million a year to the Arizona Coyotes.

What an absolute joke. Has that franchise even generated a penny in profit for the NHL since relocated from Winnipeg?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 11, 2015, 05:38:44 PM
Despite a brutal start, the Hawks find a way to finish. Series tied going back to TB.

In other hockey news, Glendale pulls a classy move:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250)

During a special meeting convened Wednesday night that featured threats of a $200-million lawsuit and emotional fans wearing team jerseys, city councillors in Glendale, Arizona, voted to cancel the arena management contract that sees the city pay $15 million a year to the Arizona Coyotes.

What an absolute joke. Has that franchise even generated a penny in profit for the NHL since relocated from Winnipeg?
has got to be the hardest team ever in north america to be a fan of. Bettman is laughable when he says it'll work there still. It's bloody creepy how devoted he is to that loser location etc, etc?.it's like he could die if that teams leaves Zona!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on June 11, 2015, 06:02:59 PM
am sure Scott Oake wanted to beat Bettman & his smug face, when basically shrugging off Oake's question as if it is not an issue.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 11, 2015, 06:54:43 PM
Really wish that franchise would just relocate. I'm tired of hearing about how it isn't fair to the couple of thousand fans who actually care. The team being in Arizona isn't fair to a much much larger number of people in cities that the team could and should be in. If people in Arizona actually do care about hockey, put an AHL or ECHL team in there. It will be cheaper for them and the abysmal attendance and support won't hurt the league nearly as much as the Coyotes do to the NHL.

There can only be a set amount of NHL franchises. The fact that one of those is wasted on the Coyotes is a shame.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 11, 2015, 07:47:21 PM
has got to be the hardest team ever in north america to be a fan of. Bettman is laughable when he says it'll work there still. It's bloody creepy how devoted he is to that loser location etc, etc?.it's like he could die if that teams leaves Zona!

I think he doesn't want to admit failure.

Really wish that franchise would just relocate. I'm tired of hearing about how it isn't fair to the couple of thousand fans who actually care. The team being in Arizona isn't fair to a much much larger number of people in cities that the team could and should be in. If people in Arizona actually do care about hockey, put an AHL or ECHL team in there. It will be cheaper for them and the abysmal attendance and support won't hurt the league nearly as much as the Coyotes do to the NHL.

There can only be a set amount of NHL franchises. The fact that one of those is wasted on the Coyotes is a shame.

I don't think people in Arizona care for the most part. Even when the Coyotes have been a good team, attendance was bad.

Relocate the Coyotes to Seattle (when it's feasible) and move the fan-less Panthers to Quebec City within the next two years.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 12, 2015, 11:21:39 AM
What an absolute farce that organization has become. I feel bad for the fans.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 12, 2015, 02:01:00 PM
What an absolute farce that organization has become. I feel bad for the fans.

This latest crap makes the City of Glendale look like a farce (again), not the Coyotes.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 12, 2015, 02:25:16 PM
This latest crap makes the City of Glendale look like a farce (again), not the Coyotes.

Precisely. The franchise itself is not to blame at all. The City of Glendale's actions are disgraceful.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on June 14, 2015, 09:46:53 AM
Arizona Coyotes seek restraining order against city of Glendale
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/arizona-coyotes-seek-restraining-order-against-city-of-glendale-201008932.html;_ylt=A0LEVzNNWX1VL.4AL2ZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyMjg0cXZqBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjAxNjJfMQRzZWMDc2M-

 I'm trying to figure out just how successful the Hurricanes & the Predators are in their respective areas as far as fan support goes. I admit that the Lightning are successful,so are the California teams for the most part. The Stars are also successful in Texas. Would a more objective mind grade the NHL teams in non-traditional hockey cities,besides the Coyotes & Panthers,& whether they should stay where they're at or move to a more viable location,or maybe better yet,the NHL contract itself down to a more viable number of teams?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 14, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
Successful how...?

Do they generate profit for the NHL? Cheap ticket prices and package deals seem to indicate otherwise.
When a sunbelt team is struggling on the ice, is the fan support there? Looking at Dallas and Carolina this past season. It seems like fans are quick to bail.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: royrdsjr on June 14, 2015, 10:22:14 PM
Successful how...?

Do they generate profit for the NHL? Cheap ticket prices and package deals seem to indicate otherwise.
When a sunbelt team is struggling on the ice, is the fan support there? Looking at Dallas and Carolina this past season. It seems like fans are quick to bail.


 The Predators do have a successful on ice product,& it helps that they are the only major sports team going on in Nashville during the winter season(& it was genius to trade for Carrie Underwood's husband when they did). They have no competition from the NBA or from college sports. The Hurricanes would have competition from the Duke Blue Devils,with the UNC Tar Heels going through a major scandal right now,that's one less thing to worry about. They do need to put a winning product on the ice though. The same would go with the Dallas Stars.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2015, 02:00:00 AM
And the Chicago Blackhawks are the 2015 Stanley Cup Champions!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ModAdmin on June 16, 2015, 02:12:25 AM
And the Chicago Blackhawks are the 2015 Stanley Cup Champions!

With apologies to die hard NHL fans, count me as glad the season is finally over.  Waaaayyyy too long!  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2015, 02:19:01 AM
With apologies to die hard NHL fans, count me as glad the season is finally over.  Waaaayyyy too long!  :D

Oh, I couldn't agree more. The NHL season should be done by the end of May at least the latest. This nonsense into mid-June is too much.

Although, I'm sure I'd be saying differently if it's the Jets hoisting the Stanley Cup. ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Stretch on June 16, 2015, 10:15:16 AM
Although, I'm sure I'd be saying differently if it's the Jets hoisting the Stanley Cup. ;D

You mean "when".  ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 16, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
lol yeah, I watch from beginning to end, but man the NHL season just goes on forever. I was thinking about it last night watching the Cup ceremony and remember watching a Jets preseason game during/after a Bomber game in September and remember how different my life was then and how much has changed just during one NHL season lol.

Toews now has three Cups. Unreal.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 16, 2015, 12:27:36 PM
I agree the season is wicked to long. I really didn't watch the final just FF it taped delayed.

Toews is amazing. It'll be interesting what there team looks like next year!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 16, 2015, 03:25:56 PM
lol yeah, I watch from beginning to end, but man the NHL season just goes on forever. I was thinking about it last night watching the Cup ceremony and remember watching a Jets preseason game during/after a Bomber game in September and remember how different my life was then and how much has changed just during one NHL season lol.

Toews now has three Cups. Unreal.


3 Cups, plus...

Winter Olympics
Gold medal ? first place    2014 Sochi    
Gold medal ? first place    2010 Vancouver

   
World Championships
Silver medal ? second place    2008 Canada    
Gold medal ? first place    2007 Russia    

World Junior Championships
Gold medal ? first place    2007 Sweden    
Gold medal ? first place    2006 Canada
   
World U-17 Hockey Challenge
Gold medal ? first place    2005 Alberta



That 2008 Silver Medal tarnishes everything (pardon the pun...)

Not bad for a guy that is 27...

ICYMI, Erik Johnson and Jordan Staal picked ahead of him in 2006. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2015, 04:28:51 PM
You mean "when".  ;D

Haha, right you are! ;)

I think Toews is the most complete player in the NHL.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 16, 2015, 04:44:43 PM
Michael ‏@Large_Soda
Waking up in a cold sweat, Mrs. McGuire trembles from the realization that the playoffs are over and now Pierre will be home for months.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on June 17, 2015, 03:01:01 AM
Haha, right you are! ;)

I think Toews is the most complete player in the NHL.

I agree easy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 17, 2015, 11:14:33 AM
a lot of Dynasty talk about Chicago, and already picked to be next season's champs.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 17, 2015, 09:06:08 PM
Media is BSing us the hawk thing is a dynasty no doubt! 3 in 6 years certainly qualifies in my books any day.

 Anyone who says nah it's not is just jealous.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 17, 2015, 09:15:49 PM
I see a lot of critics saying there's no comparison to the dynastic teams of the 70s and 80s like the Canadiens, Oilers, and Islanders, but that was a totally different time. Of course there is no comparison. It's like comparing Lemieux to Crosby... It makes very little sense.

In today's NHL with the salary cap and unprecedented parity, I'd say the achievement of three championships in six years qualifies as a dynasty.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 17, 2015, 10:07:24 PM
Definitely a dynasty in my mind. 3 in 6 years is something we very well could never see again barring any big changes to how to league functions.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 18, 2015, 02:58:53 AM
Definitely a dynasty in my mind. 3 in 6 years is something we very well could never see again barring any big changes to how to league functions.

This is true. And here's something to consider: the Blackhawks are the only franchise to have done this since the salary cap was introduced and only the second team to have done this since the 1994-95 lockout.

For the most difficult trophy to win in sports, doing so three times in twice as many years is impressive to say the least.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 18, 2015, 05:02:51 PM
I agree. I don't know of another well rounded team in the NHL right now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 18, 2015, 05:55:10 PM
Yep. Dynasty no doubt


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 19, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
and now for the rest of the league...

there is no doubt in my mind that Kessel will be traded. Leaf's need some solid goal tending to stop spinning their tires, imo. Cam Talbot seems to be the name that floats around for goalies that can help a team. I see no reason to keep Reimer and Bernier... to me it seems the team seems to adopt the "it's better than nothing" with this tandem. After sinking 50 mil for a coach I wonder if they'll have the cash to upgrade that position.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 19, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
and now for the rest of the league...

there is no doubt in my mind that Kessel will be traded. Leaf's need some solid goal tending to stop spinning their tires, imo. Cam Talbot seems to be the name that floats around for goalies that can help a team. I see no reason to keep Reimer and Bernier... to me it seems the team seems to adopt the "it's better than nothing" with this tandem. After sinking 50 mil for a coach I wonder if they'll have the cash to upgrade that position.

To upgrade their goalie situation...? Well, that $50M for Babcock doesn't come out of the players' salary cap, so that shouldn't be an issue.

That being said, I don't think it matters what they do between the pipes until they fix what's wrong in front, namely on the blue line.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 23, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
NHL, NHLPA announce salary cap increase:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-nhlpa-announce-cap-increase-1.315746 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-nhlpa-announce-cap-increase-1.315746)

The league and Players' Association announced Tuesday that the cap will be US$71.4 million for 2015-16.

That's a $2.1-million increase from this season's $69 million, more than expected a few months ago.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 PM
Bob McKenzie        ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending B of G approval, NHL will go to 3-on-3 overtime for 5 minutes in regular season games next season.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on June 24, 2015, 03:26:06 AM
Boooooo ...... the wealthy hockey players do not want to play extra time .......... fans should be seeing some quick finishes


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 24, 2015, 03:05:11 PM
Bob McKenzie        ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending B of G approval, NHL will go to 3-on-3 overtime for 5 minutes in regular season games next season.


How ridiculous.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 24, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
More fun than 3 on 3 overtime, they are talking a 3 on 3 tournament for the all star game.  That would be hilarious, especially if they do it in half rink configuration. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on June 24, 2015, 04:09:23 PM
not a big Oiler fan "yet" but I would suggest they might land a good to very good goalie in the Ranger's Talbot if they moved Draisaitl.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 24, 2015, 05:16:51 PM
what's more important for the leafs right now... Draft or trade?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Rhapsody in Blue on June 24, 2015, 07:22:27 PM
How ridiculous.

If anything it should reduce the number of shoot-outs which should make some happy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 24, 2015, 07:37:23 PM
If anything it should reduce the number of shoot-outs which should make some happy.

That remains to be seen, IMO. 4-on-4 OT didn't solve much, so I remain skeptical getting rid of two more players on the ice will make a difference.

5 mins. of 4-on-4 and 5 mins. of 3-on-3. If the game ends with a tie, award each team a point and be done with it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 25, 2015, 11:35:35 AM
Personally, I think we should go back to the sudden death OT. I hate losing on shoot-outs.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 25, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
That remains to be seen, IMO. 4-on-4 OT didn't solve much, so I remain skeptical getting rid of two more players on the ice will make a difference.

5 mins. of 4-on-4 and 5 mins. of 3-on-3. If the game ends with a tie, award each team a point and be done with it.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhlpa-earns-a-win-for-3-on-3-ot-change-1.316355 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhlpa-earns-a-win-for-3-on-3-ot-change-1.316355)

Apparently they experimented with these new rules and it solved 75% of post-regulation vs. 35% using the traditional rules. If that translates to the NHL level, that's a dramatic improvement! Anything to eliminate shoot outs. They're fun to watch when you're on the winning side only!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 25, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
I'm not sure I understand the logic of trying to eliminate a "gimmick" in the form of a shootout, by changing the five minutes before they get there into another gimmick.

I'll wait until I see it in action before I decide if I like the change or not though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 25, 2015, 04:43:41 PM
Report: Stoll's cocaine possession charge dismissed:

http://www.tsn.ca/report-stoll-s-cocaine-possession-charge-dismissed-1.317609 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-stoll-s-cocaine-possession-charge-dismissed-1.317609)

No surprises here. ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 25, 2015, 05:13:44 PM
I'm not sure I understand the logic of trying to eliminate a "gimmick" in the form of a shootout, by changing the five minutes before they get there into another gimmick.

I'll wait until I see it in action before I decide if I like the change or not though.

Well, at least 3-on-3 is still hockey. That must be the logic.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 25, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
Well, at least 3-on-3 is still hockey. That must be the logic.

I have a hard time considered 3 on 3 legitimate hockey. The situations in which this occur in regulation are extremely few and far between. At the very least 4 on 4 and breakaways are routine situations in regulation.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 25, 2015, 07:37:59 PM
I have a hard time considered 3 on 3 legitimate hockey. The situations in which this occur in regulation are extremely few and far between. At the very least 4 on 4 and breakaways are routine situations in regulation.

lol ya it's definitely not legitimate, just more so than a skills competition. This is a "choosing the lesser of two evils" situation.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 25, 2015, 07:54:57 PM
I have a hard time considered 3 on 3 legitimate hockey. The situations in which this occur in regulation are extremely few and far between. At the very least 4 on 4 and breakaways are routine situations in regulation.

This. 3-on-3 hockey is strange to me. Sure, it opens up more ice but is it going be exciting to watch as a fan? I'm not so sure.

This is a "choosing the lesser of two evils" situation.

Seems to be the case. The fact there is still a shootout creams my corn, though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on June 26, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
Lehner traded to Buffalo for Legwand.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 26, 2015, 02:34:53 PM
This. 3-on-3 hockey is strange to me. Sure, it opens up more ice but is it going be exciting to watch as a fan? I'm not so sure.

With more open ice it makes room for breakaways and the skill players to do what they don't get to do as often when they're shut down. This should lead to quicker goals and therefore avoid the shootout. Remains to be seen if this will work but I think it will be fun to watch. Worked in the A.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 06:26:35 PM
Flames acquire D Dougie Hamilton:

http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 26, 2015, 07:27:44 PM
Flames acquire D Dougie Hamilton:

http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825)

RIP Bruins fans.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 08:08:19 PM
RIP Bruins fans.

Bahaha... And Lucic to the Kings for a pick and G Martin Jones.

http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890)

Wow... Bruins are in full-on tank mode. LOL :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 26, 2015, 08:13:19 PM
Bahaha... And Lucic to the Kings for a pick and G Martin Jones.

http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890)

Wow... Bruins are in full-on tank mode. LOL :D

I hate Lucic and think trading him away is great, but for Martin Jones? What?

And to LA? Come on! Now I have to both see his disgusting face on my screen 6+ times a year and fear for the health of every member of the Sharks organization any time he steps on the ice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 08:14:32 PM
I hate Lucic and think trading him away is great, but for Martin Jones? What?

And to LA? Come on! Now I have to both see his disgusting face on my screen 6+ times a year and fear for the health of every member of the Sharks organization any time he steps on the ice.

Right...? LOL :D

I have a friend who says he'd take Lucic on the Jets. Blegh... No. Just no.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 26, 2015, 08:20:17 PM
Bahahaha, Bruins retained close to half of Lucic's salary.

They are pushing waaay too hard for Hanafin when in all likelyhood, won't even be as good of a defenseman as Hamilton.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 26, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
I swear, if the Sharks move their first for something that doesn't include a top 8 pick I'm going to be so pissed off.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 10:14:09 PM
Avalanche trade F Ryan O'Reilly and F Jamie McGinn to the Sabres.

F Mikhail Grigorenko, D Nikita Zadorov, F JT Compher, and the 31st overall pick going to the Avalanche.

Confirmed:

http://www.tsn.ca/avalanche-trade-o-reilly-to-sabres-1.318992 (http://www.tsn.ca/avalanche-trade-o-reilly-to-sabres-1.318992)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 10:19:05 PM
And McDavid goes first overall. No surprises there.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 27, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
draft was boring until jets went twice


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jesse on June 27, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
I thought the three picks in a row by the Bruins was fairly interesting. Never thought I'd see that outside a video game.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 27, 2015, 02:59:12 PM
Les Habitants had 1, 2, 3 in 1968.  A horrible draft year, by the looks of it, I don't recognize and of the names...  Plasse played 32 games for montreal, picks 2 and 3, none...

1    Michel Plasse    Goaltender     Canada    Montreal Canadiens    Drummondville Rangers (QJHL)
2    Roger Belisle    Centre     Canada    Montreal Canadiens    Montreal North Beavers (LHIQ)
3    Jim Pritchard    Defence     Canada    Montreal Canadiens    Winnipeg Jets (WCHL)
4    Garry Swain    Centre     Canada    Pittsburgh Penguins    Niagara Falls Flyers (OHA)
5    Jim Benzelock    Right Wing     Canada    Minnesota North Stars    Winnipeg Jets (WCHL)
6    Gary Edwards    Goaltender     Canada    St. Louis Blues    Toronto Marlboros (OHA)
7    Jim McInally    Defence     Canada    Los Angeles Kings    Hamilton Red Wings (OHA)
8    Lew Morrison    Right Wing     Canada    Philadelphia Flyers    Flin Flon Bombers (WCHL)
9    John Marks    Left Wing     Canada    Chicago Black Hawks    North Dakota Fighting Sioux (NCAA)
10    Brad Selwood    Defence     Canada    Toronto Maple Leafs    Niagara Falls Flyers (OHA)
11    Steve Andrascik    Right Wing     Canada    Detroit Red Wings    Flin Flon Bombers (WCHL)
12    Danny Schock    Left Wing     Canada    Boston Bruins    Estevan Bruins (WCHL)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 27, 2015, 10:31:32 PM
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/winners--losers-of-the-2015-nhl-draft-210315070.html (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/winners--losers-of-the-2015-nhl-draft-210315070.html)

Lots of good stuff in this link. Check it out.

This is definitely neat:

WINNER: Andong Song

The 18-year old defenseman became the first player born in China to be drafted when he was taken No. 172 by the New York Islanders. His entire draft weekend was documented by Chinese TV station CCTV. After moving to Canada at age 10, he then went to New Jersey at 15 to play at the Lawrenceville School. With the Asian market one the NHL is hoping to crack, Song?s success in professional hockey on this side of the Pacific Ocean could do wonders to help grow the sport there.


I know hockey's popularity in Japan has increased a lot the last decade or so but this development could tap into a massive market on the Asian mainland.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on June 28, 2015, 05:02:20 AM
I use The Hockey news Draft preview magazine to get psyched for the draft.
So Dallas (not a big fan of), in the 1st Round in the #12 spot, goes way off the board & picks #66 ranked winger Guryanov ........... I said ***

Then I remembered the shock, as a fan, for the Jets first historical Draft into their 1st year, 1979, into the NHL.
The Jets GM Smith picked Jimmy Mann as our 1st round selection ........ Jet fans were stunned as were the draft hosts & talent gurus.
Mann plays 293 games in the NHL with a total of 10 goals & 20 assists to show.
Same Draft, the Jets pick Dave Christian in the 2nd round who goes onto get 340 goals & 773 points in 1009 NHL games
In the 5th round we get Thomas Steen who collects 817 points in 950 games.

Guess my point is ..... the Draft can be a let down (i.e. Dallas fans) at first blush, but only time will tell at how many home runs are hit in the choices made.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 29, 2015, 07:13:35 PM
Sweeney just gave up a 3rd round pick for Zac Rinaldo. Rinaldo is the type of player you need to trade packaged with a 3rd round pick for no return to get rid of.

It's starting to look like the Bruins got themselves a modern day Mike Milbury running the show.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 29, 2015, 07:25:20 PM
2015 HHOF Inductees: Fedorov, Pronger, Lidstrom, Housley, and Ruggiero.

http://www.tsn.ca/fedorov-lidstrom-pronger-housley-in-2015-hhof-class-1.321225 (http://www.tsn.ca/fedorov-lidstrom-pronger-housley-in-2015-hhof-class-1.321225)

Nicklas Lidstrom, Sergei Fedorov, Chris Pronger, Phil Housley and Angela Ruggiero will be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame as the Class of 2015.

Bill Hay and Peter Karmanos were also inducted as builders.


In other news, the Kings terminate F Richards' contract:

http://www.tsn.ca/kings-opt-to-terminate-richards-contract-1.321200 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-opt-to-terminate-richards-contract-1.321200)

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"The Los Angeles Kings today have exercised the team?s right to terminate the contract of Mike Richards for a material breach of the requirements of his Standard Player?s Contract," the Kings said in a statement. "We are not prepared to provide any more detail or to discuss the underlying grounds for the contract termination at this time."

No details regarding the violation... Strange.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 29, 2015, 07:34:03 PM
So does this make Richards an FA? Any guesses from folks who picks him up and how much money he makes?

IMO might be a good pickup for a contender looking to bust through. Would give some size to Montreal's so-so offense. Maybe NYR? I wonder what he's willing to play for, but then again there will be no shortage of teams interested, so the market will dictate that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 29, 2015, 07:41:11 PM
So does this make Richards an FA? Any guesses from folks who picks him up and how much money he makes?

IMO might be a good pickup for a contender looking to bust through. Would give some size to Montreal's so-so offense. Maybe NYR? I wonder what he's willing to play for, but then again there will be no shortage of teams interested, so the market will dictate that.

He's a free agent. I have no idea what happens to him now, though. I think any team interested knows the risks involved. And whatever happens, he'll be making peanuts compared to what he had been making.

Speaking of free agents, who else is stoked for July 1? Canada Day celebrations aside, it's always fun to see who ends up where.

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769 (http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769)

Mike Reilly should be off the list. He signed with the Wild on the 26th, IIRC.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on June 29, 2015, 07:46:21 PM
Pretty juicy list. Hard to think any of these would be interesting to Chevy (for the price most would cost), and if any would want to play here.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 29, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
Pretty juicy list. Hard to think any of these would be interesting to Chevy (for the price most would cost), and if any would want to play here.

Frolik's been getting a lost of interest. I fail to see how the Jets keep him.

I would like to see Stafford return, though. As for the others, I haven't the slightest clue.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 29, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
He's a free agent. I have no idea what happens to him now, though. I think any team interested knows the risks involved. And whatever happens, he'll be making peanuts compared to what he had been making.

Speaking of free agents, who else is stoked for July 1? Canada Day celebrations aside, it's always fun to see who ends up where.

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769 (http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769)

Mike Reilly should be off the list. He signed with the Wild on the 26th, IIRC.

I'm usually glued to a screen on July 1st, but I don't even think I'll be tuning in this year. Not many names I have even slight interest in.

Also, Eff Ribeiro, Can't believe he is listed as a top 5 free agent.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: PloenFan on June 30, 2015, 03:21:01 AM
There are a few decent scorers on this list.
Hopefully the Jets had some salary cap room to sign a few.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 30, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
The whole Richards thing is crazy.  But I can understand it, a great use of "the rules".

Here's the question.  They void his contract, and take 1.35mil/yr in cap hit.  He sues in civil court, and wins (because they've set a precident with other teammates with criminal charges not being canned).  He either settles for 1/2 up front, or gets a judgement for payment of his contract in full, LA appeals and settles out of court for 1/2. 

Does that 1/2 become cap hit?  Or do they sidestep the cap because it is a civil court payment? 

If Richards takes this "buyout", does the NHLPA still launch a grievance?  Can they without his participation?  To protect the rest of their players?

SMS cap for haves and have nots makes this kinda thing a lawyers wet dream.   Toronto eating Horton's non-SMS contract last year is opening up all kinds of creative SMS / budget possibilities between those flush with cash they can't spend on players, and those with hard budget concerns and SMS floor player budgets.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 30, 2015, 02:43:37 PM
The whole Richards thing is crazy.  But I can understand it, a great use of "the rules".

Here's the question.  They void his contract, and take 1.35mil/yr in cap hit.  He sues in civil court, and wins (because they've set a precident with other teammates with criminal charges not being canned).  He either settles for 1/2 up front, or gets a judgement for payment of his contract in full, LA appeals and settles out of court for 1/2. 

Does that 1/2 become cap hit?  Or do they sidestep the cap because it is a civil court payment? 

If Richards takes this "buyout", does the NHLPA still launch a grievance?  Can they without his participation?  To protect the rest of their players?

SMS cap for haves and have nots makes this kinda thing a lawyers wet dream.   Toronto eating Horton's non-SMS contract last year is opening up all kinds of creative SMS / budget possibilities between those flush with cash they can't spend on players, and those with hard budget concerns and SMS floor player budgets.

If it was considered to be wrongful termination I would expect the Kings to get hit with some cap circumvention penalties a la NJ with Kovalchuk.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 03:23:07 PM
Apparently, the rumour regarding an incident at a border crossing is pretty accurate. Pierre McGuire reported on this yesterday and CBC just released this:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/mike-richards-part-of-rcmp-investigation-report-1.3133350 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/mike-richards-part-of-rcmp-investigation-report-1.3133350)

This sounds pretty serious.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 30, 2015, 04:05:16 PM
I hate being a Sharks fan so much right now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 04:06:18 PM
I hate being a Sharks fan so much right now.

Could be a Bruins fan. ;)

Jones goes from one coast to the other... And back to the other coast.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 30, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
Could be a Bruins fan. ;)

Jones goes from one coast to the other... And back to the other coast.

I'll take Don Sweeney right now, he just turned Wilson's absolute stupidity into Milan Lucic for 2 firsts.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on June 30, 2015, 04:52:37 PM
I'll take Don Sweeney right now, he just turned Wilson's absolute stupidity into Milan Lucic for 2 firsts.

Gotta love Carlo...

carlo todaro ‏@juventus777JETS
Don Sweeney : " We are not trading Tukka Rask " Tukka Rask : FML #Bruins #NHL

carlo todaro ‏@juventus777JETS
The #Raptors have traded Luke Ridnour to the Boston Bruins for Patrice Bergeron ! Sweeney : We needed some size #NHL #Bruins #Raptors


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
I'll take Don Sweeney right now, he just turned Wilson's absolute stupidity into Milan Lucic for 2 firsts.

Yeah, that was pretty clever. I'm still not sure what to think of letting Hamilton go and picking up Rinaldo.

And how about Hextall getting rid of Pronger and Grossman for Gagner...? Crazy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 30, 2015, 05:01:16 PM
Yeah, that was pretty clever. I'm still not sure what to think of letting Hamilton go and picking up Rinaldo.

And how about Hextall getting rid of Pronger and Grossman for Gagner...? Crazy.

Sweeney is still pretty bad, We just seem to have it worse at times and definitely got swindled by him here.

I'm not a big fan of the Coyotes acquiring Pronger's contract. I agree with the sentiment that it's borderline cap circumvention and definitely agree with the sentiment of Coyotes fans pissed off that the organization would rather do something like this just to save money than actually attempt to field a competitive hockey team.

Quote
This kind of blatant cap floor circumvention is faaar more offensive to me than cap circumvention a la (kovalchuk) - I'd rather see a team push the rules to try and WIN than to try and lose.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
Saad to the Blue Jackets:

http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217 (http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217)

The Chicago Blackhawks have traded left wing Brandon Saad along with Michael Paliotta and Alex Broadhurst to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for forwards Artem Anisimov, Marko Dano, Jeremy Morin and Corey Tropp and a fourth-round selection in the 2016 NHL Draft.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 09:17:52 PM
Another Canuck goes to the Ducks:

http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286)

The Vancouver Canucks have traded defenceman Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a 2016 second-round draft pick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 30, 2015, 10:06:59 PM
Saad to the Blue Jackets:

http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217 (http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217)

The Chicago Blackhawks have traded left wing Brandon Saad along with Michael Paliotta and Alex Broadhurst to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for forwards Artem Anisimov, Marko Dano, Jeremy Morin and Corey Tropp and a fourth-round selection in the 2016 NHL Draft.

Every Hawks fan on earth was adamant that this would not happen, kinda funny it did.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on June 30, 2015, 10:09:30 PM
Another Canuck goes to the Ducks:

http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286)

The Vancouver Canucks have traded defenceman Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a 2016 second-round draft pick.

So we couldn't get the deal done with the Canucks who ended up wanting a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th for Beiksa and Lack, but we will give up a possible lottery 1st + prospect in the first year of a much more valued lottery pick for a goalie arguably no better than Lack...

Bieksa was house shopping in SJ, how did Wilson not make that trade happen...?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on July 01, 2015, 01:30:58 AM
http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/

Did July 1 become another fools day?  Or could this be real?

Sin City is getting hockey, two sources close to the situation told The Post.

The NHL is arranging the sale of the Arizona Coyotes to billionaire William Foley who will move the team to Las Vegas giving it its first major professional franchise, one source said.

?Las Vegas has reached 10,000 season ticket deposits,? enough to justify a franchise, the other source said.

Foley said in January that he needed 10,000 ticket deposits to get an NHL team.

Foley will move them for the 2016-17 season, the source said. The Post last year was the first to report Foley was backing a Vegas franchise.

MGM Resorts and arena operator AEG are building a 20,000 seat hockey-ready arena in Las Vegas that is slated to open in spring 2016.

A Coyotes spokesman said, ?The Coyotes are committed to playing in Arizona.? When asked for how long, the spokesman reiterated it was committed to playing in Arizona. ?Period.? Arizona last year ranked 28th in attendance.

Meanwhile, the City Council in Glendale, Ariz., last month voted to terminate its lease agreement that expires in 2028 that has the city paying the team $15 million a year for a share of revenue.

The NHL is also eyeing expansion franchises in the Toronto and Seattle areas for the 2017-18 season, a source said.

The NHL announced it was accepting applications for expansion franchises from July 6 until Aug. 10.

Former Bauer Hockey Chairman Graeme Roustan is the lead person putting together a Toronto-area expansion team bid.

The NHL denied the story.

Foley and Roustan did not return calls.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on July 01, 2015, 01:32:08 AM
So we couldn't get the deal done with the Canucks who ended up wanting a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th for Beiksa and Lack, but we will give up a possible lottery 1st + prospect in the first year of a much more valued lottery pick for a goalie arguably no better than Lack...

Bieksa was house shopping in SJ, how did Wilson not make that trade happen...?

Because lately Doug Wilson has been slightly incompetent. Aside from locking up Martin Jones. Sorry, Colton, I know you're a SJ fan/  ;D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 03:10:18 AM
http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/

Did July 1 become another fools day?  Or could this be real?

Sin City is getting hockey, two sources close to the situation told The Post.

The NHL is arranging the sale of the Arizona Coyotes to billionaire William Foley who will move the team to Las Vegas giving it its first major professional franchise, one source said.

?Las Vegas has reached 10,000 season ticket deposits,? enough to justify a franchise, the other source said.

Foley said in January that he needed 10,000 ticket deposits to get an NHL team.

Foley will move them for the 2016-17 season, the source said. The Post last year was the first to report Foley was backing a Vegas franchise.

MGM Resorts and arena operator AEG are building a 20,000 seat hockey-ready arena in Las Vegas that is slated to open in spring 2016.

A Coyotes spokesman said, ?The Coyotes are committed to playing in Arizona.? When asked for how long, the spokesman reiterated it was committed to playing in Arizona. ?Period.? Arizona last year ranked 28th in attendance.

Meanwhile, the City Council in Glendale, Ariz., last month voted to terminate its lease agreement that expires in 2028 that has the city paying the team $15 million a year for a share of revenue.

The NHL is also eyeing expansion franchises in the Toronto and Seattle areas for the 2017-18 season, a source said.

The NHL announced it was accepting applications for expansion franchises from July 6 until Aug. 10.

Former Bauer Hockey Chairman Graeme Roustan is the lead person putting together a Toronto-area expansion team bid.

The NHL denied the story.

Foley and Roustan did not return calls.


The league is full-on deny and damage control mode because of this rumour about the Coyotes getting moved.

I won't believe it until it happens but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on July 01, 2015, 12:07:47 PM
http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/

Did July 1 become another fools day?  Or could this be real?

Sin City is getting hockey, two sources close to the situation told The Post.

The NHL is arranging the sale of the Arizona Coyotes to billionaire William Foley who will move the team to Las Vegas giving it its first major professional franchise, one source said.

?Las Vegas has reached 10,000 season ticket deposits,? enough to justify a franchise, the other source said.

Foley said in January that he needed 10,000 ticket deposits to get an NHL team.

Foley will move them for the 2016-17 season, the source said. The Post last year was the first to report Foley was backing a Vegas franchise.

MGM Resorts and arena operator AEG are building a 20,000 seat hockey-ready arena in Las Vegas that is slated to open in spring 2016.

A Coyotes spokesman said, ?The Coyotes are committed to playing in Arizona.? When asked for how long, the spokesman reiterated it was committed to playing in Arizona. ?Period.? Arizona last year ranked 28th in attendance.

Meanwhile, the City Council in Glendale, Ariz., last month voted to terminate its lease agreement that expires in 2028 that has the city paying the team $15 million a year for a share of revenue.

The NHL is also eyeing expansion franchises in the Toronto and Seattle areas for the 2017-18 season, a source said.

The NHL announced it was accepting applications for expansion franchises from July 6 until Aug. 10.

Former Bauer Hockey Chairman Graeme Roustan is the lead person putting together a Toronto-area expansion team bid.

The NHL denied the story.

Foley and Roustan did not return calls.


This sounds so made up lol.

I'd make a long weekend in Vegas to see a Jets game in winter though  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
Sekera and Letestu sign with the Oilers.

Frolik rumoured to be close to signing with the Flames. :-[


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Kessel to the Penguins. Details to be announced but it sounds like the Leafs will eat part of that contract.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 04:10:37 PM
Frolik to the Flames. 5 years, $21.5M...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on July 01, 2015, 04:16:20 PM
Frolik to the Flames. 5 years, $21.5M...

Thats to much for to long for us.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 04:21:00 PM
Thats to much for to long for us.

Well, yeah. I was just hoping he'd up on an eastern team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on July 01, 2015, 04:36:19 PM
Wanted him to go to the other Conference but .......... the Flames paid a few bucks for a decent player

What is a decent price now a days??


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on July 01, 2015, 04:40:27 PM
Kessel trade is a super dump for the Penguins........... his potential goal output just jumped significantly for Hockey Pools
The Leafs will be pushing for a high Draft choice position in next years draft, not getting to the playoffs any time soon...... YAY !!



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 04:53:40 PM
Wanted him to go to the other Conference but .......... the Flames paid a few bucks for a decent player

What is a decent price now a days??

The market is inflated this year because the FA pool is pretty shallow. I mean, the Avs paid $13.5M for Beauchemin...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
O'Dell signs a one-year deal with his hometown club, the Ottawa Senators.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on July 01, 2015, 05:19:24 PM
hope it works out for O'Dell


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 08:33:50 PM
Mike Green signs with the Red Wings. And apparently Brad Richards, too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on July 02, 2015, 01:01:56 AM
Boston signs a 1 hit wonder ....... Beleskey gets a $3.8M per package for 5 years.    Insane for a year well above his average.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 02, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Martin St. Louis retires:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=773696 (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=773696)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on July 03, 2015, 03:04:23 AM
very good addition to the Caps lineup with TJ Oshie picked up in a trade


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 11, 2015, 12:10:44 AM
Blackhawks trade F Patrick Sharp and prospect D Steven Johns to the Dallas Stars for F Ryan Garbutt and D Trevor Daley.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 11, 2015, 03:33:11 PM
Blackhawks trade F Patrick Sharp and prospect D Steven Johns to the Dallas Stars for F Ryan Garbutt and D Trevor Daley.
god dam our division continues to load up! :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 11, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
god dam our division continues to load up! :-\

Don't worry, Dallas doesn't have a defense and has over 10M tied up in two mediocre goalies.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 15, 2015, 03:20:00 PM
Stars sign D Oduya:

http://www.tsn.ca/stars-sign-oduya-to-two-year-deal-1.331451 (http://www.tsn.ca/stars-sign-oduya-to-two-year-deal-1.331451)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: SaxonMiller11 on July 16, 2015, 03:15:01 PM
Don't worry, Dallas doesn't have a defense and has over 10M tied up in two mediocre goalies.

Except Lethonen is not really that mediocre.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on July 16, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
Except Lethonen is not really that mediocre.

He's been playing bad enough as of late to lose his status of primary starter.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on July 23, 2015, 01:20:14 PM
Lou Lamoriello new GM of the Leafs?

What the fizzy?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ty204 on July 23, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
Lou Lamoriello new GM of the Leafs?

What the fizzy?

Must have gotten a LOT on $$$$ to get moved from his comfy lazyboy in NJ. Interesting to see how all the brains will work under one roof.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on July 23, 2015, 02:11:50 PM
Must have gotten a LOT on $$$$ to get moved from his comfy lazyboy in NJ. Interesting to see how all the brains will work under one roof.

Lou drafted Shanny... all these guys have a lot of history together, not sure there is any concern about them working together. 

Odd that the youngest of them is the one in charge...  that will be an interesting dynamic.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 28, 2015, 06:00:44 PM
Penguins ship Sutter to Vancouver for Bonino, Clendening, and a second rounder in 2016:

http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-acquire-sutter-from-penguins-1.337295 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-acquire-sutter-from-penguins-1.337295)

Pens also sign Fehr to 3-year contract:

http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-ink-fehr-to-three-year-deal-1.337297 (http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-ink-fehr-to-three-year-deal-1.337297)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on July 30, 2015, 09:03:58 PM
Must have gotten a LOT on $$$$ to get moved from his comfy lazyboy in NJ. Interesting to see how all the brains will work under one roof.

he lost that chair when Shero came in  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 06, 2015, 02:48:53 PM
Not exactly on-ice news but Patrick Kane reported to be under police investigation:

http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595)

Chicago Blackhawks forward Patrick Kane is reportedly under a police investigation near his hometown of Buffalo.

The Buffalo News reports that police in Hamburg, New York are investigating an incident allegedly involving the 26-year-old.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: bomber4life85 on August 09, 2015, 02:58:09 PM
So Vegas and Quebec City have moved onto the 2nd phase of expansion applications. Vegas name were thought out to be .. Which I think are all terrible names and logos.. The Bones, Falmingos, Outlaws, Nordiques (huh?), Rat Pack, Dealers, Sin and Strippers.. Here is the link to the logos and names and explantions.. Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 09, 2015, 03:14:12 PM
So Vegas and Quebec City have moved onto the 2nd phase of expansion applications. Vegas name were thought out to be .. Which I think are all terrible names and logos.. The Bones, Falmingos, Outlaws, Nordiques (huh?), Rat Pack, Dealers, Sin and Strippers.. Here is the link to the logos and names and explantions.. Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames)

I'd take a hockey piece from ESPN with a grain of salt. Although, the Bandits logo and colours look pretty decent. FWIW, those names are just ideas put forth by the writers at ESPN.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Not exactly on-ice news but Patrick Kane reported to be under police investigation:

http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595)

Chicago Blackhawks forward Patrick Kane is reportedly under a police investigation near his hometown of Buffalo.

The Buffalo News reports that police in Hamburg, New York are investigating an incident allegedly involving the 26-year-old.

you just knew Patrick Kane would screw up yet again. He sure has wicked athletic ability but is obviously as dumb as a bag of nails.

John Toews must be impressed!  >:(

 This ain't going to work out good for Patrick Kane I can guarantee that.

 He'll get whatever he deserves


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on August 09, 2015, 08:59:40 PM
you just knew Patrick Kane would screw up yet again. He sure has wicked athletic ability but is obviously as dumb as a bag of nails.

John Toews must be impressed!  >:(

 This ain't going to work out good for Patrick Kane I can guarantee that.

 He'll get whatever he deserves

think the Blackhawks will terminate his contract?  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 10, 2015, 07:02:46 PM
Stoll signs one-year deal with the Rangers:

http://www.tsn.ca/rangers-sign-stoll-to-one-year-800k-deal-1.343451 (http://www.tsn.ca/rangers-sign-stoll-to-one-year-800k-deal-1.343451)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 19, 2015, 04:17:47 PM
Blake Wheeler tweets about potential sponsorship ads on jerseys:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074)

Blake Wheeler
 ✔  ‎@BiggieFunke 
An NHL uniform is a sacred thing and it's an honor to wear one. Putting corporate sponsors on the front would tarnish that. Don't do it
6:58 PM - 18 Aug 2015


I agree completely. Keep the ads on the boards, the jumbotron, seats, etc. but off the players.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 19, 2015, 04:21:38 PM
Blake Wheeler tweets about potential sponsorship ads on jerseys:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074)

Blake Wheeler
 ✔  ‎@BiggieFunke 
An NHL uniform is a sacred thing and it's an honor to wear one. Putting corporate sponsors on the front would tarnish that. Don't do it
6:58 PM - 18 Aug 2015


I agree completely. Keep the ads on the boards, the jumbotron, seats, etc. but off the players.

Players are already walking billboards, I don't see what difference putting them on the jersey makes.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on August 19, 2015, 04:23:49 PM
Blake Wheeler tweets about potential sponsorship ads on jerseys:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074)

Blake Wheeler
 ✔  ‎@BiggieFunke 
An NHL uniform is a sacred thing and it's an honor to wear one. Putting corporate sponsors on the front would tarnish that. Don't do it
6:58 PM - 18 Aug 2015


I agree completely. Keep the ads on the boards, the jumbotron, seats, etc. but off the players.

Can you see plastering car company logos on stickers on the fronts of their helmets?  Great look.


On another front,

Evander Kane is fraught with first world problems..

Evander Kane ‏@evanderkane_9 1
Love my Bentley but nothing beats my Ferrari. The only problem is my hockey bag takes up the passenger seat. https://instagram.com/p/6jc09RzNw2/


(https://instagram.com/p/6jc09RzNw2/)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 19, 2015, 05:59:15 PM
Can you see plastering car company logos on stickers on the fronts of their helmets?  Great look.

There are already logos on the fronts of every players helmet.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 19, 2015, 07:48:27 PM
There are already logos on the fronts of every players helmet.

Representing the brand of the helmet and the team they represent.

Seeing a helmet with a Ford logo and a hockey jersey with McDonalds on it would look stupid, IMO. The European/IIHF jerseys look like garbage with all those ads on them.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 19, 2015, 08:00:20 PM
Representing the brand of the helmet and the team they represent.

Seeing a helmet with a Ford logo and a hockey jersey with McDonalds on it would look stupid, IMO. The European/IIHF jerseys look like garbage with all those ads on them.

The players are still plastered with advertisements on every other piece of equipment they're paid to use, I'm not sure what makes Ford or McDonalds any worse than Nike/Reebok/Adidas/CCM/etc... Some could argue the latter are far worse than the former.

We're also posting on the board of a team who has advertisements on their jerseys. They are barely noticeable. I bet if you pulled aside random fans after a Bomber game and asked them what companies were featured on each teams jersey they wouldn't be able to even tell you.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 20, 2015, 12:18:28 AM
The players are still plastered with advertisements on every other piece of equipment they're paid to use, I'm not sure what makes Ford or McDonalds any worse than Nike/Reebok/Adidas/CCM/etc... Some could argue the latter are far worse than the former.

We're also posting on the board of a team who has advertisements on their jerseys. They are barely noticeable. I bet if you pulled aside random fans after a Bomber game and asked them what companies were featured on each teams jersey they wouldn't be able to even tell you.

How are the latter worse than the former? A player uses Reebok skates, Warrior gloves, and a CCM helmet. You or I could go to the store and buy the same gear for our own use and both versions have ads on them representing the manufacturer of that specific item. Similarly, a player's jersey has the Reebok insignia on it just like the jersey you or I could buy. How is that in any way similar to Ford or McDonald's slapping ad bars on that jersey?

And for the record, I despise the ads on CFL jerseys. Thankfully, they're small and somewhat easy to overlook, similar to what we saw on the Moose jerseys before the Jets returned. By contrast, what the NHL has purportedly put forward is a design similar to what we see in Europe, the KHL, and IIHF tournaments like the Spengler Cup. Most of those jerseys are hideous and the ads, IMO, take away from the appeal of the jersey. A similar approach to NHL jerseys would result in a similar reaction, at least from me.

I understand sponsorship and all that crap to make more money. But it doesn't appeal to me. Take NFL regular season jerseys, for example. Besides the Nike swoosh, numbers and a namebar, that's it. I'll take that any day. Just my two cents, though.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on August 20, 2015, 11:53:42 AM
I'm perfectly fine with small ads on NHL jerseys similar to CFL jerseys. It's when they're plastered all over like KHL or European soccer. I think it's hideous.

I little Nike check mark is considerably different than one going over the entire sleeve.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 23, 2015, 05:47:06 PM
D Christian Ehrhoff signs with the Kings:

http://www.tsn.ca/kings-sign-d-ehrhoff-to-one-year-1-5m-deal-1.349794 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-sign-d-ehrhoff-to-one-year-1-5m-deal-1.349794)

As first reported by TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, The Los Angeles Kings have signed veteran defenceman Christian Ehrhoff to a one-year deal. The deal is worth $1.5 million.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on August 25, 2015, 08:04:58 PM
31 yr old C of Calgary Giordino signs 6 yr, 6.75 AAV extension that takes him to age 39.

Looks like that will be the min number for Buff, and maybe a little more $ or term  for Ladd...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 25, 2015, 08:07:23 PM
31 yr old C of Calgary Giordino signs 6 yr, 6.75 AAV extension that takes him to age 39.

Looks like that will be the min number for Buff, and maybe a little more $ or term  for Ladd...

Gio is a far superior defenseman than Byfuglien. That extension should set the max, although that would be an overpayment if he signed a similar deal.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
31 yr old C of Calgary Giordino signs 6 yr, 6.75 AAV extension that takes him to age 39.

Looks like that will be the min number for Buff, and maybe a little more $ or term  for Ladd...

Math.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on August 25, 2015, 08:43:53 PM
Math.

Extension of current contract that still has time left on it...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on August 25, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Math.

The signing was an extension to his current contract. He'll be 33 when this contract begins.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2015, 08:53:54 PM
Extension of current contract that still has time left on it...

Ah okay. Makes sense thank you.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 27, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
RCMP charge former LA King with possession of a controlled substance:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/mike-richards-nhl-free-agent-charged-for-drug-possession-when-crossing-border-1.3205598 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/mike-richards-nhl-free-agent-charged-for-drug-possession-when-crossing-border-1.3205598)

RCMP in Manitoba confirmed the controlled substance was drugs, but wouldn't give the type.

RCMP in Emerson have been investigating Richards, 30, since June 17, when they were notified that a controlled substance had been intercepted by the Canada Border Services Agency at the Manitoba town's port of entry.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: BomberPride on August 27, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
2 Kings players charged within the last few months for drugs.

Drugs are bad, mmkay?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 29, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
2 Kings players charged within the last few months for drugs.

Drugs are bad, mmkay?
figures


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 02, 2015, 07:47:23 PM
Penguins ownership asking for $750M USD for franchise:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678)

The owners of the Pittsburgh Penguins are asking $750 million (U.S.) for the team, but face long odds of finding a buyer who?s willing to pay that much because of the flagging North American economy and uncertainty over the future of the Canadian dollar, sports investment bankers say.

Forbes magazine reported last year that the Penguins were the 10th-most valuable NHL team, worth an estimated $565 million.


Steep and unrealistic asking price, IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 02, 2015, 11:04:18 PM
Penguins ownership asking for $750M USD for franchise:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678)

The owners of the Pittsburgh Penguins are asking $750 million (U.S.) for the team, but face long odds of finding a buyer who?s willing to pay that much because of the flagging North American economy and uncertainty over the future of the Canadian dollar, sports investment bankers say.

Forbes magazine reported last year that the Penguins were the 10th-most valuable NHL team, worth an estimated $565 million.


Steep and unrealistic asking price, IMO.

Wow. Didn't Chipman buy the thrashers for under 200 Million? I get the Thrashers aren't the Penguins but still...that's a massive difference.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 03, 2015, 02:21:33 AM
Wow. Didn't Chipman buy the thrashers for under 200 Million? I get the Thrashers aren't the Penguins but still...that's a massive difference.

TNSE paid $170M for the Thrashers franchise plus a $60M relocation fee to the NHL. That still comes in at less than 1/3 what Penguins ownership is asking.

Talk about arrogant.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 05, 2015, 12:46:16 AM
TNSE paid $170M for the Thrashers franchise plus a $60M relocation fee to the NHL. That still comes in at less than 1/3 what Penguins ownership is asking.

Talk about arrogant.

Plus they needed to show 11K season ticket holders cash. For 3 Years i think.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 10, 2015, 04:28:37 PM
D Cody Franson signs with the Sabres:

http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197 (http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197)

Free-agent defenceman Cody Franson signed a two-year contract worth $6.65 million with the Buffalo Sabres on Thursday.

Franson split last season between the Toronto Maple Leafs and Nashville Predators, scoring seven goals and adding 29 assists in 78 games.  He also appeared in five playoff games with the Predators and tallied two assists.

The 28-year-old was selected in the third round, 79th overall by the Predators in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft and spent parts of two seasons with them before being dealt to the Maple Leafs.

After parts of four seasons with the Leafs he was shipped back to Nashville where he appeared in 23 more games before becoming an unrestricted free-agent.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on September 10, 2015, 06:38:47 PM
D Cody Franson signs with the Sabres:

http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197 (http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197)

Free-agent defenceman Cody Franson signed a two-year contract worth $6.65 million with the Buffalo Sabres on Thursday.

Franson split last season between the Toronto Maple Leafs and Nashville Predators, scoring seven goals and adding 29 assists in 78 games.  He also appeared in five playoff games with the Predators and tallied two assists.

The 28-year-old was selected in the third round, 79th overall by the Predators in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft and spent parts of two seasons with them before being dealt to the Maple Leafs.

After parts of four seasons with the Leafs he was shipped back to Nashville where he appeared in 23 more games before becoming an unrestricted free-agent.


Time to find a new agent.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 16, 2015, 06:50:43 PM
Not hockey related but still a great story:

http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204 (http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204)

Montreal Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban and his foundation have pledged at least $10 million to the Montreal Children's Hospital. The hospital is calling the money the largest philanthropic commitment ever made by a professional athlete in Canada.

The agreement will see Subban, 26, become a spokesperson for certain fundraising campaigns and flagship events organized by the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation.

In recognition of the donation, the Children's officially inaugurated Wednesday the "P.K. Subban Atrium," a 486-square-metre, three-storey public space located at the heart of the hospital's new facilities.

"It is really an amazing feeling to be here," Subban said. "I am proud to walk in the footsteps of my idol Jean Beliveau by giving back to the community and feel privileged to be able to help transform the lives of sick children and their families."


That is awesome. :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on September 16, 2015, 07:01:33 PM
Not hockey related but still a great story:

http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204 (http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204)

Montreal Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban and his foundation have pledged at least $10 million to the Montreal Children's Hospital. The hospital is calling the money the largest philanthropic commitment ever made by a professional athlete in Canada.

The agreement will see Subban, 26, become a spokesperson for certain fundraising campaigns and flagship events organized by the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation.

In recognition of the donation, the Children's officially inaugurated Wednesday the "P.K. Subban Atrium," a 486-square-metre, three-storey public space located at the heart of the hospital's new facilities.

"It is really an amazing feeling to be here," Subban said. "I am proud to walk in the footsteps of my idol Jean Beliveau by giving back to the community and feel privileged to be able to help transform the lives of sick children and their families."


That is awesome. :)

PK is an absolute beauty. Haven't seen or heard a single thing about him off the ice to convey he is anything but an all around amazing human.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 16, 2015, 07:12:27 PM
PK is an absolute beauty. Haven't seen or heard a single thing about him off the ice to convey he is anything but an all around amazing human.

Agreed. People can criticize how he plays the game but nobody can deny the quality of human being he is.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on September 16, 2015, 10:53:08 PM
Devils sign Tlusty at a bargain and offer Stempniak a PTO


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on September 17, 2015, 01:56:15 AM
Devils sign Tlusty at a bargain and offer Stempniak a PTO

Shoulda been the other way around  :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 17, 2015, 04:24:34 PM
Leafs trade five to acquire F Michael Grabner from the Islanders:

http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038)

...the Toronto Maple Leafs got faster and more flexible by trading five players to the New York Islanders for winger Michael Grabner.

The Leafs sent minor-league forwards Taylor Beck and Carter Verhaeghe, defencemen Matt Finn and Tom Nilsson and goaltender Christopher Gibson to the Islanders.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on September 17, 2015, 05:27:39 PM
Shoulda been the other way around  :-\

Maybe Stempnik didn't want an $800k contract, hoping he can earn a bigger payday with the PTO...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on September 18, 2015, 11:47:43 PM
I can't believe we didn't try to keep Stepniak.  I thought he was good addition.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on September 19, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
Maybe Stempnik didn't want an $800k contract, hoping he can earn a bigger payday with the PTO...

So, instead of guaranteeing himself a job & $800k,  Stempniak is going to gamble and "maybe" earn himself an extra $200k. :o ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on September 20, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
Leafs trade five to acquire F Michael Grabner from the Islanders:

http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038)

...the Toronto Maple Leafs got faster and more flexible by trading five players to the New York Islanders for winger Michael Grabner.

The Leafs sent minor-league forwards Taylor Beck and Carter Verhaeghe, defencemen Matt Finn and Tom Nilsson and goaltender Christopher Gibson to the Islanders.


Lou is already trading away the Leafs future  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on September 20, 2015, 01:59:45 PM
So, instead of guaranteeing himself a job & $800k,  Stempniak is going to gamble and "maybe" earn himself an extra $200k. :o ::)

well..all of that is speculation..who said they offered him a contract yet?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on September 20, 2015, 02:20:12 PM
well..all of that is speculation..who said they offered him a contract yet?
Nobody is saying Stemp got offered a contract. I suggest reading the trail of posts over that lead to my response.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on September 20, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
Nobody is saying Stemp got offered a contract. I suggest reading the trail of posts over that lead to my response.

i did read them..there right there  :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on September 20, 2015, 08:19:18 PM
pre season starts in two hours  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on September 20, 2015, 11:01:27 PM
pre season starts in two hours  8)

Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 20, 2015, 11:03:26 PM
Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
yey


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 25, 2015, 01:17:58 PM
This is some seriously crazy stuff in the last 48 hours or so:

http://www.tsn.ca/district-attorney-in-kane-case-to-address-tampering-allegations-1.366074 (http://www.tsn.ca/district-attorney-in-kane-case-to-address-tampering-allegations-1.366074)

The lawyer for the accuser in the alleged sexual assault investigation, Thomas Eoannou, announced on Thursday night that he is withdrawing as his client's representative on the case. Eoannou said that he's no longer comfortable representing the woman because of how her mother reported finding an evidence bag that once held the woman's rape kit.

That news comes on the heels of a Wednesday news conference where Eoannou said that evidence in the case has been tampered with, setting off a head-spinning day of developments and denials.

Eoannou said the bag once containing evidence from the rape kit performed on his client at Erie County Medical Center in early August was anonymously delivered to the doorstep of his client's mother.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 25, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
And the crazy continues:

http://www.tsn.ca/prosecutor-kane-accuser-s-mom-lied-about-finding-evidence-bag-1.366435 (http://www.tsn.ca/prosecutor-kane-accuser-s-mom-lied-about-finding-evidence-bag-1.366435)

BUFFALO, N.Y. - The prosecutor overseeing the sexual assault investigation of Chicago Blackhawks star Patrick Kane says the accuser's mother lied about finding an evidence bag in her doorway.

Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita said during a news conference Friday he's not sure yet how the two-day sideshow of how evidence was handled affects the main case. Sedita said all the evidence, including the rape kit used to examine the accuser, was handled properly and is still in custody of authorities.

Sedita said the mother was given the bag at a hospital when her daughter was examined, but it never contained a rape kit. The examining nurse gave the mother the bag after learning the accuser changed her top before going to the hospital, Sedita said. The mother was to put the top in the bag and turn it into authorities, but never did, Sedita said.

On Friday, when asked when a grand jury might hear the case, Sedita responded: "The question in my mind is not when this case will go to a grand jury, it's if it will go to a grand jury."

Kane's attorney, Paul Cambria, has said that none of Kane's DNA was found on the woman "from the waist down."


What a gong show.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Stretch on September 30, 2015, 07:53:58 PM
Eberle out 4-6 weeks due to a whoulder injury suffered last night in their pre-season game vs. Arizona.

http://www.tsn.ca/oilers-f-eberle-out-4-6-weeks-1.369308

If you listen closely, you can hear Jersey swearing...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2015, 04:32:11 PM
Sharks forward Torres could be facing yet another suspension:

http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405 (http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405)

San Jose Sharks forward Raffi Torres could be facing another suspension by the National Hockey League after receiving a match penalty for an illegal hit to the head of Anaheim Ducks forward Jakob Silfverberg.

Torres has been suspended four times in his NHL career, the most recent coming during the 2012-13 Stanley Cup playoffs. Torres was suspended for the remainder of the second round against the Los Angeles Kings for an illegal check to the head of Jarret Stoll.

Torres was handed a 25-game suspension in 2012 while playing for the Arizona Coyotes after landing a late hit on the Blackhawks' Marian Hossa. The 25 game suspension is the third-longest handed down by the league.


This guy never learns. Not sure how he still has a job in the NHL.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 04, 2015, 04:40:55 PM
Sharks forward Torres could be facing yet another suspension:

http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405 (http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405)

San Jose Sharks forward Raffi Torres could be facing another suspension by the National Hockey League after receiving a match penalty for an illegal hit to the head of Anaheim Ducks forward Jakob Silfverberg.

Torres has been suspended four times in his NHL career, the most recent coming during the 2012-13 Stanley Cup playoffs. Torres was suspended for the remainder of the second round against the Los Angeles Kings for an illegal check to the head of Jarret Stoll.

Torres was handed a 25-game suspension in 2012 while playing for the Arizona Coyotes after landing a late hit on the Blackhawks' Marian Hossa. The 25 game suspension is the third-longest handed down by the league.


This guy never learns. Not sure how he still has a job in the NHL.

We all waited two years for him to finally make a comeback and he head hunts a dude in the preseason.

It's a shame too, because he made a positive impact on the team when he actually stuck to playing hockey.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2015, 04:44:17 PM
We all waited two years for him to finally make a comeback and he head hunts a dude in the preseason.

It's a shame too, because he made a positive impact on the team when he actually stuck to playing hockey.

It is a shame because he's a pretty decent hockey player when he actually plays hockey.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 05, 2015, 07:37:11 PM
Torres suspended 41 games:

https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641 (https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641)

SportsCentre
‏@SportsCentre
JUST IN: Sharks F Raffi Torres suspended 41 games for hit to the head of Ducks F Jakob Silfverberg. #TSNHockey


Wow.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on October 05, 2015, 08:00:43 PM
W O W .......... so many other players have thrown that similar check in previous years & got away with it.
Unbelieveable crackdown on Torres (good stuff) & others may need to check their temperament & quickly change some instincts.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 05, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Preseason, against a premium player, and he has history.

Good call, put everyone on notice.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 05, 2015, 08:56:43 PM
Torres suspended 41 games:

https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641 (https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641)

SportsCentre
‏@SportsCentre
JUST IN: Sharks F Raffi Torres suspended 41 games for hit to the head of Ducks F Jakob Silfverberg. #TSNHockey


Wow.

Love it.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

In much more positive news that I hope doesn't get overshadowed, Joe Pavelski was named captain of the Sharks. Wish I could find the full video, but this is a 1st intermission speech down 2-0 to the Coyotes, Joe comes out and scored a hat trick in the final two periods of a 4-2 victory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD1okbl0-RE

Edit: Full version of that scene can be seen here from 50:53 onwards: https://vid.me/Tqvn


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 05, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
Torres must have the brain the size of a pea.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on October 05, 2015, 11:06:37 PM
Torres must have the brain the size of a pea.

Shouldn't be allowed back in the league.  Or any league at that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 06, 2015, 02:39:19 AM
Love it.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

In much more positive news that I hope doesn't get overshadowed, Joe Pavelski was named captain of the Sharks. Wish I could find the full video, but this is a 1st intermission speech down 2-0 to the Coyotes, Joe comes out and scored a hat trick in the final two periods of a 4-2 victory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD1okbl0-RE

Edit: Full version of that scene can be seen here from 50:53 onwards: https://vid.me/Tqvn

Just nasty, nasty head-hunting by Torres. And to see people on social media defend the act or say it wasn't a dirty hit just boggles the mind. This is the kind of stuff the NHL is trying to get rid of in order to make the game safer.

Anyways, good for Pavelski. He's a good player and a leader. He'll wear the C well.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 07, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
For fans of the Oil...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQtts1OUkAAwaoF.jpg:large)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 08, 2015, 04:40:49 AM
Dustin Brown with another incredibly dirty play, as is tradition.

Link (https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/651964515324665860?s=09)

Cooch leveling Lucic coming out of the box, luring Lucic into a match penalty, and then giving him that bloody massive grin just made my night.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 14, 2015, 12:21:36 PM
McJesus nets his first NHL goal last night. Good for him.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 14, 2015, 02:13:07 PM
It's becoming extremely hard not to be more than just cautiously optimistic about the DeBoer Sharks + Jones.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 14, 2015, 06:53:50 PM
Senior NHL lawyer advised league to 'leave dementia issues up to the NFL'

http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753 (http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753)

In an email to Bettman and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly on Nov. 30, 2009, NHL deputy general counsel Julie Grand outlined four suggestions on "next possible steps" for the league's NHL-NHLPA Concussion Working Group (CWG).

Grand wrote she was least interested in studying retired players because they are "removed from the current issues we face? I'd rather focus on the here and now and leave the dementia issues up to the NFL!"


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 14, 2015, 07:22:22 PM
Senior NHL lawyer advised league to 'leave dementia issues up to the NFL'

http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753 (http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753)

In an email to Bettman and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly on Nov. 30, 2009, NHL deputy general counsel Julie Grand outlined four suggestions on "next possible steps" for the league's NHL-NHLPA Concussion Working Group (CWG).

Grand wrote she was least interested in studying retired players because they are "removed from the current issues we face? I'd rather focus on the here and now and leave the dementia issues up to the NFL!"


Not surprising whatsoever, especially from an email back in 2009.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 15, 2015, 04:05:03 PM
For fans of the Oil...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQtts1OUkAAwaoF.jpg:large)
what a surprise oilers 0-3 what a shocker!!

Anybody see that goal Talbot let in? A shot from the corner goal line and he banked it in his own net, lol.

Earth to McDavid Earth to McDavid, anybody home Mcfly errr McDavid

I mean does the guy have a grain of emotion within him. Seems even more robot like than Sid back in the day.

I'd much rather have Eichel at this point.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 15, 2015, 06:50:27 PM
what a surprise oilers 0-3 what a shocker!!

Anybody see that goal Talbot let in? A shot from the corner goal line and he banked it in his own net, lol.

Earth to McDavid Earth to McDavid, anybody home Mcfly errr McDavid

I mean does the guy have a grain of emotion within him. Seems even more robot like than Sid back in the day.

I'd much rather have Eichel at this point.
That wasn't Talbot. Neilson?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 15, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
That wasn't Talbot. Neilson?
was it? Who cares. oil sucks!


see tomorrow at the pony.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2015, 01:54:42 PM
Just saw on FB Logan Couture broke his fibula at practice yesterday and will be out 4-6 weeks.

TSN confirms:

http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772 (http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 16, 2015, 02:13:20 PM
Just saw on FB Logan Couture broke his fibula at practice yesterday and will be out 4-6 weeks.

TSN confirms:

http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772 (http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772)

Really sucks. Wouldn't mind seeing Goldobin get a chance but I doubt it happens right now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: sweep the leg on October 16, 2015, 02:59:04 PM
Just saw on FB Logan Couture broke his fibula at practice yesterday and will be out 4-6 weeks.

TSN confirms:

http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772 (http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772)
This hurts my fantasy team, which is the real tragedy here.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 16, 2015, 04:00:53 PM
This hurts my fantasy team, which is the real tragedy here.
:'( lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 09:06:08 PM
now that the preseason is over...fans of both the Oilers and the Sabres have come back to reality to realize there teams still suck ...the Oilers went 6-0 when there kids played against everyone elses kids, and finally just got there first win...and Kane is 5 games deep and no goals...shocked!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 10:10:35 PM
now that the preseason is over...fans of both the Oilers and the Sabres have come back to reality to realize there teams still suck ...the Oilers went 6-0 when there kids played against everyone elses kids, and finally just got there first win...and Kane is 5 games deep and no goals...shocked!

Oilers would be smart to make some move for some D imo.

They have enough talent that they could trade someone and make there team better i think.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 10:17:22 PM
Oilers would be smart to make some move for some D imo.

They have enough talent that they could trade someone and make there team better i think.

they have stupid amounts of talent..Hall, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins, Yakapov, McDavid...its crazy when you actually see all these names together...I would trade some young Dmen for Yakapov...i have a feeling thats the only guy they would be willing to part with right now


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 10:30:16 PM
they have stupid amounts of talent..Hall, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins, Yakapov, McDavid...its crazy when you actually see all these names together...I would trade some young Dmen for Yakapov...i have a feeling thats the only guy they would be willing to part with right now

If i were us i wouldnt trade for Yak...  He dont fit here in anyway.

If anyone i might want Nugent Hopkins.  Hall would fit here well but they would want to much


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
If i were us i wouldnt trade for Yak...  He dont fit here in anyway.

If anyone i might want Nugent Hopkins.  Hall would fit here well but they would want to much

i wouldnt really mess much with the Jets at this point..chemistry seems good and the guys are buying in to the system and it works well for them...the Devils need some speed and scoring up front...which is quite obvious lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 10:40:41 PM
i wouldnt really mess much with the Jets at this point..chemistry seems good and the guys are buying in to the system and it works well for them...the Devils need some speed and scoring up front...which is quite obvious lol

Agree about the Jets

I havent watched the Devils yet...  Follow them on my phone tho


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 10:55:20 PM
Agree about the Jets

I havent watched the Devils yet...  Follow them on my phone tho

still need skill up front lol...that being said this is year one of the rebuild  :'(


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
still need skill up front lol...that being said this is year one of the rebuild  :'(

4 more ta go


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
4 more ta go

im hoping for one more year next season if they can land a top 5 pick...then by 2017/2018 season be back in the mix ...defense and goalies are pretty solid, just need a bit more skill up front


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
now that the preseason is over...fans of both the Oilers and the Sabres have come back to reality to realize there teams still suck ...the Oilers went 6-0 when there kids played against everyone elses kids, and finally just got there first win...and Kane is 5 games deep and no goals...shocked!

Wow,you guys would make this statement lol esp. After 4 games. you might want to understand oilers have goaltending this year, a experienced coach, who said to give them ten games. We are flying and have 3rd best PK so far! Over 91%

3 straight wins, CYA!

Gosh that McJesus is a FLOP. Catch him on highlight reels ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 02:21:14 PM
was it? Who cares. oil sucks!


see tomorrow at the pony.

Bro,oops ? A lil fast on first 4 games :p

Are u watching our goaltending cuz it's pretty **** ******* greatness

Let's Go Oilers!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 22, 2015, 02:37:31 PM
Wow,you guys would make this statement lol esp. After 4 games. you might want to understand oilers have goaltending this year, a experienced coach, who said to give them ten games. We are flying and have 3rd best PK so far! Over 91%

3 straight wins, CYA!

Gosh that McJesus is a FLOP. Catch him on highlight reels ;)

You have a terrible coach. Have fun being frustrated with that train wreck until someone figures out McLellan blows.

And Cam Talbot is having goaltending? Are you not a little gun shy yet after Scribbles?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on October 22, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
lol Jesse, coming on here after your first three win streak since, like, Gretzky is just as bad as people writing off the Oilers after losing their first four!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 22, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
Wow,you guys would make this statement lol esp. After 4 games. you might want to understand oilers have goaltending this year, a experienced coach, who said to give them ten games. We are flying and have 3rd best PK so far! Over 91%

3 straight wins, CYA!

Gosh that McJesus is a FLOP. Catch him on highlight reels ;)

I applaud your steadfastness... from this post, you'd think the team is leading the league, not still sub .500 3-4...  but they are also tied for 3rd in a category... losses. ;)

In case you missed this stat, McDavid is -2...  doesn't matter how many points you put up if the other team scores more when you are on the ice... but then again, only 4 Oil have a positive +/- 

But good on ya.  3 wins in a row after 4 losses in a row... they have a potential 78 win season going...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 08:58:21 PM
You have a terrible coach. Have fun being frustrated with that train wreck until someone figures out McLellan blows.

And Cam Talbot is having goaltending? Are you not a little gun shy yet after Scribbles?
huh? What the heck does Scrivens even have to do with anything, lol? Because he had ONE good game vs the sharks? Your a sharks fan of coarse you wanna tell me McL sucks. No coach has won it in SJ, so I wont knock him there. But he has won gold, divisions, most wins as a head coach since he became a HC. He def has a lot to offer the young Oilers. Sharks are ageing, not worried about that team. Way more worried baout Jets then Sharks, truth be told. Yes Talbot is good!

Blue or Die, I been on here since start of pre season and ppl were jabbing the Oilers. I didnt just "come on here after 3 game win streak" I've handled plenty of LOSING trust me ;)

Aard. Omg have you played top level once or anytime in your life? Plus minus is a LINE stat, you dont look at that stat and squarely look at the player. But since you wanna go that rope, whats McDavid's plus minus in last 4 games? Wow and thx for clearing up 3-4 for the Oilers, gosh i didnt know. Listen I know this is Jets country, so why would anyone ever want to say anything good about the Oilers? Its not worth getting into a battle. Oilers are gonna lose, gonna win, (aard we are not like you that think bombers are gonna win cup every single year and somehow win every game. We understand its steps...) one thing that is for certain, we are getting and going to be better. And aard before you look even stupider, check out McDavid's scoring against and for when on the ice. I love how you got a -2 and keep that as your safe. Is that all you could come up with?

I have a lot of respect for the Jets team, I envy how big and strong they are. I want a team like that again. Our GM PC said he wants to get heavier but it will take time to weed in and out players to get there. He wants the core together and add PF on each line.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 22, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
huh? What the heck does Scrivens even have to do with anything, lol? Because he had ONE good game vs the sharks? Your a sharks fan of coarse you wanna tell me McL sucks. No coach has won it in SJ, so I wont knock him there. But he has won gold, divisions, most wins as a head coach since he became a HC. He def has a lot to offer the young Oilers. Sharks are ageing, not worried about that team. Way more worried baout Jets then Sharks, truth be told. Yes Talbot is good!

Blue or Die, I been on here since start of pre season and ppl were jabbing the Oilers. I didnt just "come on here after 3 game win streak" I've handled plenty of LOSING trust me ;)

Aard. Omg have you played top level once or anytime in your life? Plus minus is a LINE stat, you dont look at that stat and squarely look at the player. But since you wanna go that rope, whats McDavid's plus minus in last 4 games? Wow and thx for clearing up 3-4 for the Oilers, gosh i didnt know. Listen I know this is Jets country, so why would anyone ever want to say anything good about the Oilers? Its not worth getting into a battle. Oilers are gonna lose, gonna win, (aard we are not like you that think bombers are gonna win cup every single year and somehow win every game. We understand its steps...) one thing that is for certain, we are getting and going to be better. And aard before you look even stupider, check out McDavid's scoring against and for when on the ice. I love how you got a -2 and keep that as your safe. Is that all you could come up with?

I have a lot of respect for the Jets team, I envy how big and strong they are. I want a team like that again. Our GM PC said he wants to get heavier but it will take time to weed in and out players to get there. He wants the core together and add PF on each line.

I was just pointing out, there are always stats that can prove wither side of anything.  But again, I applaud your stalwartness toa tem that has struggled.  I feel your pain ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 22, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
huh? What the heck does Scrivens even have to do with anything, lol? Because he had ONE good game vs the sharks? Your a sharks fan of coarse you wanna tell me McL sucks. No coach has won it in SJ, so I wont knock him there. But he has won gold, divisions, most wins as a head coach since he became a HC. He def has a lot to offer the young Oilers. Sharks are ageing, not worried about that team. Way more worried baout Jets then Sharks, truth be told. Yes Talbot is good!

Blue or Die, I been on here since start of pre season and ppl were jabbing the Oilers. I didnt just "come on here after 3 game win streak" I've handled plenty of LOSING trust me ;)

Aard. Omg have you played top level once or anytime in your life? Plus minus is a LINE stat, you dont look at that stat and squarely look at the player. But since you wanna go that rope, whats McDavid's plus minus in last 4 games? Wow and thx for clearing up 3-4 for the Oilers, gosh i didnt know. Listen I know this is Jets country, so why would anyone ever want to say anything good about the Oilers? Its not worth getting into a battle. Oilers are gonna lose, gonna win, (aard we are not like you that think bombers are gonna win cup every single year and somehow win every game. We understand its steps...) one thing that is for certain, we are getting and going to be better. And aard before you look even stupider, check out McDavid's scoring against and for when on the ice. I love how you got a -2 and keep that as your safe. Is that all you could come up with?

I have a lot of respect for the Jets team, I envy how big and strong they are. I want a team like that again. Our GM PC said he wants to get heavier but it will take time to weed in and out players to get there. He wants the core together and add PF on each line.

I'm just saying you seem quite high on Talbot after not really doing anything, and I thought you might have learned your lesson after I tried to warn you about Scrivens ;)

McLellan is a terrible coach, and is known for how terrible he is with young players. That and his absolute inability and refusal to make any sort of adjustment to his game plans, especially in the playoffs, are the staple of TMac hockey. I hope you enjoy watching complete duds with no skating or shooting ability to be found, that only exist in the league because they can fight, because Todd sure does.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 23, 2015, 12:36:11 AM
Yea but we got some players though. He has generational player.

How can u say he can't coach players he won the worlds which had been tough to do lately for Canada and he coached ebs and hall on that team amongst other Young young kids.

I'd say I'm thrilled to have him. He can't be that bad his resume is pretty good. I'd look at marleau and Thornton come playoff time, they dont do much.

Talbot had strong case last year in nyr, he kept them in it when Lundquist went down. Talbot has been good all season so far, what's not to like ?

Time will tell but as long as the oilers stay .500 in first ten it's perfect, because we're out with eberle still.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 23, 2015, 12:54:58 AM
Yea but we got some players though. He has generational player.

How can u say he can't coach players he won the worlds which had been tough to do lately for Canada and he coached ebs and hall on that team amongst other Young young kids.

I'd say I'm thrilled to have him. He can't be that bad his resume is pretty good. I'd look at marleau and Thornton come playoff time, they dont do much.

Talbot had strong case last year in nyr, he kept them in it when Lundquist went down. Talbot has been good all season so far, what's not to like ?

Time will tell but as long as the oilers stay .500 in first ten it's perfect, because we're out with eberle still.

One has 100 points in the playoffs, the other is tied for 9th all time in GWG in the playoffs. They do absolutely nothing ::)

How can I say that? Because I've watched almost every game he has coached for seven years. He made the playoffs 6 times and was eliminated in 4 straight games in 3 of those, one of which was a reverse sweep. Fun fact, they were almost (and probably should have been) reverse swept three years earlier too! Don't even get me started on all of the cancerous captaincy BS he pulled.

What do you know about TMac other than the positive news you read about him to make yourself feel good about the hiring?


I could tell you exactly what there isn't to like about Talbot, but you won't listen to any of it just like you didn't listen to the exact reasoning I gave to you about Scrivens.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 23, 2015, 02:39:25 AM
http://puckernews.com/2015/10/19/report-evander-kane-misses-practice-with-severe-case-of-other-****-to-do/

Report: Evander Kane Misses Practice With Severe Case of ?Other **** To Do?
   

BUFFALO ? Multiple reporters have confirmed that Sabres newly acquired star, Evander Kane, was absent from practice Sunday morning. Sources say the team waited 25 minutes for Kane to arrive before they began running their routine drills. When asked about his absence, the star forward did not shy away from the media.

?Sunday morning is just such a bad time for me? says Evander. ?I had to go grocery shopping along with tons of other ****. Also, my girlfriend was being such a ***** that day so I had to go out and grab her a birthday present?.

So far Evander Kane has 2 points in his first 5 games with the struggling Buffalo Sabres. Despite the importance of practice for a team in the midst of a rebuild, Kane also stresses the importance of other ****. ?I don?t think people really understand my situation. It took me forever to find the aisle that sells cereal, and my girl locked my phone for 35 minutes trying to guess my password?.

There is no word from Sabres management on whether or not Kane will be in the lineup on Wednesday against Toronto. It does, however, seem unlikely considering Kane stated that his schedule this Wednesday is ?packed with ****?.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 23, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
....good one?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 23, 2015, 12:25:50 PM
http://puckernews.com/2015/10/19/report-evander-kane-misses-practice-with-severe-case-of-other-****-to-do/

Report: Evander Kane Misses Practice With Severe Case of ?Other **** To Do?
   

BUFFALO ? Multiple reporters have confirmed that Sabres newly acquired star, Evander Kane, was absent from practice Sunday morning. Sources say the team waited 25 minutes for Kane to arrive before they began running their routine drills. When asked about his absence, the star forward did not shy away from the media.

?Sunday morning is just such a bad time for me? says Evander. ?I had to go grocery shopping along with tons of other ****. Also, my girlfriend was being such a ***** that day so I had to go out and grab her a birthday present?.

So far Evander Kane has 2 points in his first 5 games with the struggling Buffalo Sabres. Despite the importance of practice for a team in the midst of a rebuild, Kane also stresses the importance of other ****. ?I don?t think people really understand my situation. It took me forever to find the aisle that sells cereal, and my girl locked my phone for 35 minutes trying to guess my password?.

There is no word from Sabres management on whether or not Kane will be in the lineup on Wednesday against Toronto. It does, however, seem unlikely considering Kane stated that his schedule this Wednesday is ?packed with ****?.
This is a joke....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 23, 2015, 12:35:15 PM
One has 100 points in the playoffs, the other is tied for 9th all time in GWG in the playoffs. They do absolutely nothing ::)

How can I say that? Because I've watched almost every game he has coached for seven years. He made the playoffs 6 times and was eliminated in 4 straight games in 3 of those, one of which was a reverse sweep. Fun fact, they were almost (and probably should have been) reverse swept three years earlier too! Don't even get me started on all of the cancerous captaincy BS he pulled.

What do you know about TMac other than the positive news you read about him to make yourself feel good about the hiring?


I could tell you exactly what there isn't to like about Talbot, but you won't listen to any of it just like you didn't listen to the exact reasoning I gave to you about Scrivens.
Colton ur not gonna give anything good to say about oilers because ur old coach is there.
So what's the point LOL ? Yes it's all McL fault u guy's been eliminated, ok I understand.

I guess will see how he does in his first season. And ok...Talbot ain't that great, gotcha. Us Oilers fan's will also watch him play this year, so far he is doing exactly what he did with NYR. Talbot I'm sure will have bad goals let in,bad game here and there, like any goalie!

Sharks are #1 now that McL is out of there at least. Now they'll win divisions and win some cups at least, we did you a favor :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 23, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
Colton ur not gonna give anything good to say about oilers because ur old coach is there.
So what's the point LOL ? Yes it's all McL fault u guy's been eliminated, ok I understand.

I guess will see how he does in his first season. And ok...Talbot ain't that great, gotcha. Us Oilers fan's will also watch him play this year, so far he is doing exactly what he did with NYR. Talbot I'm sure will have bad goals let in,bad game here and there, like any goalie!

Sharks are #1 now that McL is out of there at least. Now they'll win divisions and win some cups at least, we did you a favor :)

I haven't said one word about the Oilers as a team, I've made comments about two people and those two people only.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 23, 2015, 05:27:21 PM
Hey I'll step up to the plate! THE OILERS SUCK STILL!!

Ya they won 3 games in a row whoopie

Welcome to the "win a game or two in a row club!" LoL

They still will be a basement team and end up with a top 10 draft pick yet again.

As far as there coach hoes Colton seems to know this guys habits and they sure don't sound encouraging.

I for one am continuing to find there crappiness entertaining.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 23, 2015, 08:08:20 PM
http://puckernews.com/2015/10/19/report-evander-kane-misses-practice-with-severe-case-of-other-****-to-do/

Report: Evander Kane Misses Practice With Severe Case of ?Other **** To Do?
   

BUFFALO ? Multiple reporters have confirmed that Sabres newly acquired star, Evander Kane, was absent from practice Sunday morning. Sources say the team waited 25 minutes for Kane to arrive before they began running their routine drills. When asked about his absence, the star forward did not shy away from the media.

?Sunday morning is just such a bad time for me? says Evander. ?I had to go grocery shopping along with tons of other ****. Also, my girlfriend was being such a ***** that day so I had to go out and grab her a birthday present?.

So far Evander Kane has 2 points in his first 5 games with the struggling Buffalo Sabres. Despite the importance of practice for a team in the midst of a rebuild, Kane also stresses the importance of other ****. ?I don?t think people really understand my situation. It took me forever to find the aisle that sells cereal, and my girl locked my phone for 35 minutes trying to guess my password?.

There is no word from Sabres management on whether or not Kane will be in the lineup on Wednesday against Toronto. It does, however, seem unlikely considering Kane stated that his schedule this Wednesday is ?packed with ****?.

must be a joke...but i believed it for a second or two until i read the part about the cereal aisle lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 23, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
and its still early but man it looks like the Sabres got hosed on that Kane trade lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 23, 2015, 09:42:02 PM
Ok ok so it's not real.

Sure would have been golden had it been real.

Sounds like his life in a nut shell though.

Did he miss or late for practise though?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 23, 2015, 09:49:53 PM
The fact that anyone would think it is real speaks volumes about the guy.  Chevy absolutely robbed Buffalo, Myers, on a great contract, was more than enough for all we gave up.  The rest is awesome sauce...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 24, 2015, 12:50:12 AM
Ok ok so it's not real.

Sure would have been golden had it been real.

Sounds like his life in a nut shell though.

Did he miss or late for practise though?

dont think so..he put 18:00 minutes of ice time in tonight,,,in a 7-2 thrashing by the Canadians...Kane will be traded to the Kings before christmas


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 24, 2015, 03:24:40 AM
The fact that anyone would think it is real speaks volumes about the guy.  Chevy absolutely robbed Buffalo, Myers, on a great contract, was more than enough for all we gave up.  The rest is awesome sauce...

Speaks volumes about the person reading it, nothing about Kane.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on October 24, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
Hey I'll step up to the plate! THE OILERS SUCK STILL!!

Ya they won 3 games in a row whoopie

Welcome to the "win a game or two in a row club!" LoL

They still will be a basement team and end up with a top 10 draft pick yet again.

As far as there coach hoes Colton seems to know this guys habits and they sure don't sound encouraging.

I for one am continuing to find there crappiness entertaining.
Well I don't find watching crapiness entertaining lol, although u like watching our Bombers ;)

If we had another top pick freaking FOLD OUR ORGANIZATION. We shouldn't have one for a loooooong time. That was crazy game yesterday...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 24, 2015, 02:22:25 PM
i hope Buffalo is still hurting from that loss last night and the Devils can take advantage!! with my luck Ullmark will get his first career shut out in his first career NHL game and Kane will score a hattrick  ::)   :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 25, 2015, 11:04:43 PM
The fact that anyone would think it is real speaks volumes about the guy.  Chevy absolutely robbed Buffalo, Myers, on a great contract, was more than enough for all we gave up.  The rest is awesome sauce...

Not really. It does, however, speak to gullibility of ignorant sports fans who quickly turn on a player when he's no longer wearing their team's colours.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 08:27:55 PM
Not really. It does, however, speak to gullibility of ignorant sports fans who quickly turn on a player when he's no longer wearing their team's colours.

its come out that Kane did in fact ask for a trade every off season in Winnipeg....he?s a real team guy...couldnt be happier to have that cancer off our team and im sure the sabres are happy he wont be around the team for the next 4-6 months...watch them start winning games now that hes injured


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 26, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
its come out that Kane did in fact ask for a trade every off season in Winnipeg....he?s a real team guy...couldnt be happier to have that cancer off our team and im sure the sabres are happy he wont be around the team for the next 4-6 months...watch them start winning games now that hes injured

He's out for 4-6 weeks.

I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 08:50:17 PM
He's out for 4-6 weeks.

I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.

sorry..i meant weeks.....ya...we are so racist  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 26, 2015, 09:01:58 PM
He's out for 4-6 weeks.

I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.
takes one to know one

Kane what a doosh

Rick Ralf sure hates his butt just bashing him on the radio

Kane's and joke and Chevy killed in in that trade Bogo hurt as well. Ouch!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 09:03:27 PM

Rick Ralf sure hates his butt just bashing him on the radio

he must be racist then


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 26, 2015, 09:04:20 PM
he must be racist then
lol yep


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 26, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
He's out for 4-6 weeks.

I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.

You forgot the ;) after the racist comment...  the hate for Kane had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, but his delta bravo persona.  Moneyphone... yeesh. 

If we were so racist, why is Buff so popular?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 26, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
You forgot the ;) after the racist comment...  the hate for Kane had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, but his delta bravo persona.  Moneyphone... yeesh. 

If we were so racist, why is Buff so popular?
ya colty why?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:01:02 PM
You forgot the ;) after the racist comment...  the hate for Kane had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, but his delta bravo persona.  Moneyphone... yeesh. 

If we were so racist, why is Buff so popular?

All the people calling him a nigger for shaving ymcmb into his head aren't racist? Alright then.

Winnipeggers can tolerate black athletes playing for their teams, they flip their **** when said athlete doesn't "act white". See quite a few athletes on the 2011 Bomber squad.


You have made racist comments on this very forum that had to be removed. Or have you forgotten that?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:07:28 PM
All the people calling him a nigger for shaving ymcmb into his head aren't racist? Alright then.



when was this?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:09:19 PM
when was this?

When he shaved YMCMB into his hair, when he posted photos of himself holding stacks of money, when his track suit debacle occurred, when he was traded, today, likely a lot of days in between that end in Y.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:10:58 PM
and i think claiming that the Winnipeg Jets fanbase is racist is a pretty strong charge to make....i would say, like in any other place in the entire world, there are racist people...but to call the entire fan base is absolutely ridiculous....ive seen plenty of Kane jerseys over the years...ive discussed the Kane subject with many fans over the years as well and have never heard one of them refer to his skin color...so it must be the cirlcles you hang with i guess  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:12:07 PM
When he shaved YMCMB into his hair, when he posted photos of himself holding stacks of money, when his track suit debacle occurred, when he was traded, today, likely a lot of days in between that end in Y.

i never seen or heard anyone calling him that, not to say that a few idiots didnt use that term, but lets not make it out like majority of people in this city used that term


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
and i think claiming that the Winnipeg Jets fanbase is racist is a pretty strong charge to make....i would say, like in any other place in the entire world, there are racist people...but to call the entire fan base is absolutely ridiculous....ive seen plenty of Kane jerseys over the years...ive discussed the Kane subject with many fans over the years as well and have never heard one of them refer to his skin color...so it must be the cirlcles you hang with i guess  8)

That's a cop out. It's a serious issue in this city. There are other cities (Boston) that have a similar severity of the issue, does that excuse Winnipeg of it somehow?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:18:32 PM
i never seen or heard anyone calling him that, not to say that a few idiots didnt use that term, but lets not make it out like majority of people in this city used that term

It's not even just using the word, there is also just the assumptions made about him because of the harmless things he does. He's not allowed to associate with anything that makes Winnipeggers uncomfortable without being labeled this or that, despite showing absolutely no signs of actually being/acting what he gets accused of. That is racism.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
That's a cop out. It's a serious issue in this city. There are other cities (Boston) that have a similar severity of the issue, does that excuse Winnipeg of it somehow?

it isnt a cop out...im not denying it doesnt exist...but i dont believe white people chased Kane out of here wearing white sheets and torches


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:37:48 PM
meh...people didnt like him because he was arrogant, with nothing to back it up....and your right, Winnipeggers dont like arrogant people, and I personally dont see anything wrong with that...but lets not turn it into a black/white thing.....people like Wheeler, Little, Ladd because they are quiet guys and let there play on the ice speak for them...not because there white lol


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:47:28 PM
meh...people didnt like him because he was arrogant, with nothing to back it up....and your right, Winnipeggers dont like arrogant people, and I personally dont see anything wrong with that...but lets not turn it into a black/white thing.....people like Wheeler, Little, Ladd because they are quiet guys and let there play on the ice speak for them...not because there white lol

And a lot of the people who didn't like him for a lot of other ignorant reasons, but we just ignore those.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ModAdmin on October 27, 2015, 01:28:32 PM
Posts discussing or accusing posters of racism have been removed.  Please do not go there in future.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:23:55 PM
All the people calling him a nigger for shaving ymcmb into his head aren't racist? Alright then.

Winnipeggers can tolerate black athletes playing for their teams, they flip their **** when said athlete doesn't "act white". See quite a few athletes on the 2011 Bomber squad.


You have made racist comments on this very forum that had to be removed. Or have you forgotten that?
you're completely out to lunch. Your reasoning has no proof or base.

Your posts are beyond ridiculous. And if you can't see that you're in the same boat as Kane himself.

Cheers!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
you're completely out to lunch. Your reasoning has no proof or base.

Kane himself made the claim, how is there no proof or base? Did you not even read the article?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
Kane himself made the claim, how is there no proof or base? Did you not even read the article?
lol taking his word for it? Really? Wow you put up a great argument considering the idiotic source!

Bravo :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:40:44 PM
lol taking his word for it? Really? Wow you put up a great argument considering the idiotic source!

Bravo :D

I'm not taking his word for it, I've seen and heard it.

You told me I had no proof or base, I showed you that was an incorrect statement.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
I'm not taking his word for it, I've seen and heard it.

You told me I had no proof or base, I showed you that was an incorrect statement.
you're not worth the energy.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on October 27, 2015, 08:46:18 PM
Just because he claimed something was said... yeesh.  He also claimed that  no one in the Jets locker room had his back, and that the coach did not appreciate him playing hurt.  So, right there... you get where his head is at.

Just heard his latest gem... a leading question no doubt, but a telling answer.  When asked "Who in teh NHL right now would yo most like to drop the gloves with", his response?  "Andrew Ladd or Blake Wheeler".  Funny he didn't mention Buff, who was the one who purportedly tossed his track suit in the shower.  Who would wipe up the floor with him.

Does Peluso dress for the return of the Natural?  I hope so...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 27, 2015, 08:46:49 PM
so on an upcoming episode of Barstool Sports..they asked Kane who he would most like to "drop the gloves"...his response was Ladd or Wheeler....this guy continues to be a class act

that being said i only heard the one comment, so i have no idea if he followed it up with a joke or if he was serious


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 27, 2015, 08:47:19 PM
you owe me a beer Aards  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
you're not worth the energy.

You asked a question I give the answer and you get pissy about it. Go figure.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
You asked a question I give the answer and you get pissy about it. Go figure.
I am not mad at all I just don't think you are worth the discussion. Go figure


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:58:01 PM
I am not mad at all I just don't think you are worth the discussion. Go figure

::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
You asked a question I give the answer and you get pissy about it. Go figure.
your proof is from a truly pathetic source as Kane is not worth arguing with you about.

I think your pissy not me😎


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
Just because he claimed something was said... yeesh.  He also claimed that  no one in the Jets locker room had his back, and that the coach did not appreciate him playing hurt.  So, right there... you get where his head is at.

Just heard his latest gem... a leading question no doubt, but a telling answer.  When asked "Who in teh NHL right now would yo most like to drop the gloves with", his response?  "Andrew Ladd or Blake Wheeler".  Funny he didn't mention Buff, who was the one who purportedly tossed his track suit in the shower.  Who would wipe up the floor with him.

Does Peluso dress for the return of the Natural?  I hope so...
bang on I agree with ards on a topic!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on October 27, 2015, 09:11:10 PM
your proof is from a truly pathetic source as Kane is not worth arguing with you about.

I think your pissy not me😎

You asked ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ModAdmin on October 27, 2015, 09:34:17 PM
Enough already.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on October 31, 2015, 07:41:55 PM
Devils win again...im liking this rebuilding year so far  8)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2015, 09:05:20 PM
Devils are in the league still

Oops must have forgotten.

 :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 03, 2015, 09:42:24 PM
Devils are in the league still

Oops must have forgotten.

 :D

Mods!! Goldmember is being mean again!!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2015, 10:30:58 PM
Mods!! Goldmember is being mean again!!!
mean? I'm never mean!

Other than Schneider and Henrique I don't know who plays on the team . Kinda in the same boat as Columbus just a lot of no name players.

That's all


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 04, 2015, 12:16:07 AM
mean? I'm never mean!

Other than Schneider and Henrique I don't know who plays on the team . Kinda in the same boat as Columbus just a lot of no name players.

c'mon bro...look at my signature!!  :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 04, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
shame for Edmonton


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on November 05, 2015, 02:38:02 AM
shame for Edmonton

Yup...  poor kid.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on November 05, 2015, 05:56:46 AM
... and with the first overall pick in 2016, the Edmonton Oilers choose....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2015, 05:16:04 PM
... and with the first overall pick in 2016, the Edmonton Oilers choose....
thats totally reasonable of the question. Sad really and a bit of a failure in how they pick first overall picks. when you look at it. It's not really fare they way they have it.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 05, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
meh...who cares about Edmonton, and who cares about McDavid


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on November 05, 2015, 08:19:13 PM
Lottery should preclude the previous year's number one from this years #1 pick.  They should be restricted to #2 at best. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 13, 2015, 10:01:34 PM
amazing how well the Sabres are playing recently with Kane away from the team


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 23, 2015, 05:16:47 PM
Hamonic expands list of trade destinations:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/ (http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on November 23, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Hamonic expands list of trade destinations:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/ (http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/)

Wasn't quite sure how Minnesota/Colorado/Chicago weren't on the list while a place like Vancouver was if the need is to be able to get to Winnipeg as fast as possible.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 23, 2015, 09:22:28 PM
he will be an................Avalanche  :P


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on November 23, 2015, 09:48:53 PM
he will be an................Avalanche  :P

If Duchene is on the table I would listen to offers if I were NYI. I was hoping for a trade revolving around Duchene/Byfuglien.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 24, 2015, 12:11:50 AM
If Duchene is on the table I would listen to offers if I were NYI. I was hoping for a trade revolving around Duchene/Byfuglien.

ya...i just dont think Buff's trade value is very high at all right now...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 26, 2015, 01:30:36 AM
ya...i just dont think Buff's trade value is very high at all right now...
?

High or low?

I'd say average


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on November 26, 2015, 01:55:57 AM
?

High or low?

I'd say average

id agree..id say it will be higher near the deadline..hes not moving anywhere until then


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: G-Force on November 30, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Buff was offered, Isles wain no...

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2015/11/30/report-jets-offered-byfuglien-for-hamonic-isles-said-no/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 01, 2015, 02:41:04 AM
G-Force sighting


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: AngryGreg on December 01, 2015, 02:41:51 AM
looks like Trouba is the magic ticket...do it Chevy...it will be worth it


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 10, 2015, 01:57:10 AM
... and with the first overall pick in 2016, the Edmonton Oilers choose....

LOL Aardv you're so smart... I love when u type, nothing ever seems to come out right.  Keep on hating baby.
"Who cares about oilers". Jets fan's , thats who. Lol. Only one's to always write about em . :)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 10, 2015, 05:43:10 AM
LOL Aardv you're so smart... I love when u type, nothing ever seems to come out right.  Keep on hating baby.
"Who cares about oilers". Jets fan's , thats who. Lol. Only one's to always write about em . :)

Wow... that's your response to a *joke* from over a month ago?  It took you that long to put together that gem?  Wow, I am sorely overmatched.  You win the internet, sir. 


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 12:59:30 AM
No I just don't talk **** month into a season. Nor do I come on here daily as it's off season. Way to show ur smarts as usual tho


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 11, 2015, 02:38:18 AM
No I just don't talk **** month into a season. Nor do I come on here daily as it's off season. Way to show ur smarts as usual tho

To just be fair here.....  If YOUR Oilers were doing good you would be talking crap.  LOL

 ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 11:23:44 AM
We are doing good. (4 wins in a row, 6 straight wins at home, 3 losses in out last 10, 3 pts outta playoff spot. Hallsy top 5 point getter, Drai top 4 PPG. All this without our mcD, Yak, Pouliot. We played also over half year without mcd, Eberle and Schultz)

I don't ever talk smack in nhl season as it's long year but I'll be happy with win's and consistency. Who wouldn't? I sure don't need to out other teams down because really what's that doing for my team? Worry about ur own backyard before expressing other's. Plus we have no right to gloat when we have a lot of work to do and become a real identity in this league. Oilers fan's know, we ain't there yet. Eventually we need to get bigger and stronger.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
I just dont understand Winnipeg obsession with hating Edmonton. It was loooong ago when they best jets every year. None of players play anymore. Winnipeg lost its team for years, rivalry is no longer anymore. Edmonton moved on I'd say in about year 1993.

Only Winnipeg holds on, lol. It's like oilers fans hating Dallas, we don't anymore not is it rivalry. Was amazing back in late 90's early 2000's but complete different era now, New blood in both rosters, just another game. It's not just this fan forum, it's many Winnipeg fan forums where I read such thing's.

Oilers will lose and have bad times again this year but it's how they react to losses. Are they gonna fold, or finally mature and learn to win together? It be nice NOT to finish at bottom of nhl and be laughing stock.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on December 11, 2015, 12:38:53 PM
I don't think anyone in Winnipeg is particularly "obsessed" with hating the Oilers. You probably just think that because that's where you live. If you go anywhere else you'll hear the same thing- which is usually a real good chuckle.

Aardvark didn't make that comment because he has this obsession with the Oilers, it's because this is a general NHL forum. There have been tons of comments made about other teams but you took particular offense to one because it happens to be yours. The Oilers have been the NHL's whipping boy for a long time, have been rewarded with first overall picks, and still haven't improved in the long term, and so you might see a snarky comment about them from time to time. Get over it...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 11, 2015, 01:54:34 PM
I just dont understand Winnipeg obsession with hating Edmonton.

This is just flat out wrong. Unless you have some actual evidence upon which to back your silly claim. I'd say 99% of Winnipeggers and probably 95% of the Jets fanbase don't give a rip about the FirstOveralls... I mean the Oilers. And I think 99% of Oilers fans don't care, either.

How about we keep this thread about NHL talk and not your insecurities...? ::)

The Canadiens are on a bit of a slide recently, having lost four straight.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on December 11, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
This is just flat out wrong. Unless you have some actual evidence upon which to back your silly claim. I'd say 99% of Winnipeggers and probably 95% of the Jets fanbase doesn't give a rip about the FirstOveralls... I mean the Oilers. And I think 99% of Oilers fans don't care, either.

How about we keep this thread about NHL talk and not your insecurities...? ::)

The Canadiens are on a bit of a slide recently, having lost four straight.

This

And jus to add .... The Oilers are to irrelevant to care about.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 08:35:55 PM
This is just flat out wrong. Unless you have some actual evidence upon which to back your silly claim. I'd say 99% of Winnipeggers and probably 95% of the Jets fanbase don't give a rip about the FirstOveralls... I mean the Oilers. And I think 99% of Oilers fans don't care, either.

How about we keep this thread about NHL talk and not your insecurities...? ::)

The Canadiens are on a bit of a slide recently, having lost four straight.
Thx we enjoy our picks of who we wanted 1st over all! Enjoy your first round exits, I mean Jets. If anyone knows anything about losing its city of Winnipeg ;) :(  Just saying...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 11, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Thx we enjoy our picks of who we wanted 1st over all! Enjoy your first round exits, I mean Jets. If anyone knows anything about losing its city of Winnipeg ;) :(  Just saying...

And the best part is you're from Winnipeg and are not only a Bombers fan, but a part-time Jets fan... LOL :D

And at least the Jets can make the post-season and compete well during the season. Despite having a plethora of first rounders, the Oilers can't even put together a respectable regular season campaign. But keep partying like it's 1990. As a Bomber fan, I'm sure that comes easy for you.

The vast majority of people in Winnipeg don't care about the Oilers.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_or_die on December 11, 2015, 09:00:10 PM
Thx we enjoy our picks of who we wanted 1st over all! Enjoy your first round exits, I mean Jets. If anyone knows anything about losing its city of Winnipeg ;) :(  Just saying...

We certainly did. Not finishing dead last feels pretty good. Not that the Jets know what that feels like..


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Mike on December 11, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
I just dont understand Winnipeg obsession with hating Edmonton. It was loooong ago when they best jets every year. None of players play anymore. Winnipeg lost its team for years, rivalry is no longer anymore. Edmonton moved on I'd say in about year 1993.

Only Winnipeg holds on, lol. It's like oilers fans hating Dallas, we don't anymore not is it rivalry. Was amazing back in late 90's early 2000's but complete different era now, New blood in both rosters, just another game. It's not just this fan forum, it's many Winnipeg fan forums where I read such thing's.

Oilers will lose and have bad times again this year but it's how they react to losses. Are they gonna fold, or finally mature and learn to win together? It be nice NOT to finish at bottom of nhl and be laughing stock.

You're too young to understand.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 10:34:48 PM
Meanwhile In Edmonton we have our ceremony tonight :)!!!!!!!!!! sather and all the greats!

Im not part time Jets fan, i dont hate the jets. Yes im bombers fan hence the sad face I put.

Mike you're around my age man... lol. I already posted about history. But there cant be anymore, its over looooooong time ago.  Until we battle in playoffs and re make history ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 10:39:56 PM
And the best part is you're from Winnipeg and are not only a Bombers fan, but a part-time Jets fan... LOL :D

And at least the Jets can make the post-season and compete well during the season. Despite having a plethora of first rounders, the Oilers can't even put together a respectable regular season campaign. But keep partying like it's 1990. As a Bomber fan, I'm sure that comes easy for you.

The vast majority of people in Winnipeg don't care about the Oilers.
Takes a shot at himself, LMAO!

btw man, at least Oilers fans know what it feels like ;) 2006 WE WERE ONE GAME AWAY FROM THE CUP! You can party like.. AHH, UM, 1996? 1993? 1992? 1990? 1988? Ah nm... ;) you woluldnt no.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 10:42:52 PM
I find it fun just getting heat about my team's. being the bad guy is way funner. Like going to enemy's territory cheering on your team :) except for when you lose, ok its lil embarrassing :@
But im all for it, we do it a lot. but I wont try it with Bombers again until were better, wow everytime we go on the road they get fing BLASTED.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 12, 2015, 12:40:01 AM
Buck buck in net...  55 gets the first shift, deservedly.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: ZeebaZeeba on December 12, 2015, 08:53:53 PM
Citing the fact the Penguins have "underachieved," and are equally as close to the bottom of the Metropolitan division as the top, GM Jim
Rutherford admitted he'd been pondering a coaching change since mid-November.

Rutherford pulled the trigger on Saturday, firing head coach Mike Johnston and promoting coach Mike Sullivan from the AHL. Sullivan is a former Boston Bruins head coach and long-time NHL assistant.

"We've underachieved," Rutherford told reporters. "This team has more to give."


http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-fire-head-coach-johnston-sullivan-named-replacement-1.408168


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 14, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
2006 WE WERE ONE GAME AWAY FROM THE CUP!

And the Oilers still lost in 2006. "We almost won!" You sound like a Canucks fan. ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on December 14, 2015, 09:19:49 PM
I find it fun just getting heat about my team's. being the bad guy is way funner. Like going to enemy's territory cheering on your team :) except for when you lose, ok its lil embarrassing :@
But im all for it, we do it a lot. but I wont try it with Bombers again until were better, wow everytime we go on the road they get fing BLASTED.

You probably wouldn't lose so much if you had a competent goalie in net ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: bomber4life85 on December 15, 2015, 02:08:43 AM
huh? 6 in a row I believe. Talbot wins vs Bruins tonight


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 15, 2015, 02:11:27 AM
You probably wouldn't lose so much if you had a competent goalie in net ;)
ahh that goal tending beat ur sharks ;) 8-3-1 in last 12 and 6 in a row. and now in a playoff spot! Nilsson 2 weeks ago was nhl stars of week too ;)

With all injuries latest being Klefbom, we keep finding ways to win :) Its been a long time to be so excited in E town and we finally can start enjoying our team.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on December 16, 2015, 06:00:48 AM
huh? 6 in a row I believe. Talbot wins vs Bruins tonight

I was teasing that Talbot isn't any good whatsoever, there was some banter about him a month or two ago.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 16, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Kane's point streak ends at 26 games:

http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942 (http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942)

Quote
Semyon Varlamov and the Colorado Avalanche found a perfect way to snap Blackhawks star Patrick Kane's franchise record points streak.

Varlamov stopped 29 shots for his first shutout of the season, leading the Colorado Avalanche to a 3-0 victory over Chicago on Tuesday night and ending Kane's streak at 26 games.

Against the Avs, no less. Well, they're not last in the Central anymore.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 16, 2015, 04:47:40 PM
Kane's point streak ends at 26 games:

http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942 (http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942)

Against the Avs, no less. Well, they're not last in the Central anymore.
must be nice to get the odd shutout!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 16, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
must be nice to get the odd shutout!

Or a win over a division rival... :-[


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 16, 2015, 04:49:34 PM
Or a win over a division rival... :-[
cheers that!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 17, 2015, 01:46:07 PM
I saw this nonsense yesterday on my FB feed and thought I'd share:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573)

Quote
A Quebec language group is raising a stink over how to pronounce the name of Montreal Canadiens star defenceman P.K. Subban, arguing French broadcasters should say it the French way.

L'Association pour l'usage et le soutien de la langue francaise argues French-language broadcasters should use the French pronunciation of his abbreviated first name, "Pay-Ka," rather than the English, "Pea-Kay."

Robert Auclair, founder of the group, said the name should be pronounced in the language of the intended audience.

In a statement obtained by Montreal's La Presse, Auclair said the suggestion should be viewed as "constructive" criticism rather than an admonishment.

Auclair points out that, in the past, English broadcasters referred to former Hab Jean-Claude Tremblay by the English "Jay-See" rather than the French "Gee-Say."

Pretty ridiculous.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 17, 2015, 06:10:36 PM
I saw this nonsense yesterday on my FB feed and thought I'd share:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573)

Pretty ridiculous.
those francophones are nuts!! Completely insecure and nuts!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on December 20, 2015, 12:46:19 PM
Congrats to Calgary for great win streak. I really respect that organization. There young guns are awesome to watch. Pure respect.

Edmonton, um man.... You guys been really close last 2 games. Way they playing, jets will run right thru Edmonton. Just out hit **** outta oilers. They better figure out life, quick. Or Jets will eat us for din din.



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 21, 2015, 06:27:24 PM
Edmonton is really going down tonight!

Jets need to pound them HARD!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 27, 2015, 09:50:11 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/sources-evander-kane-is-subject-of-sex-offense-investigation-20151227

Worked to get the other Kane producing... is he trying to follow suit?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 27, 2015, 10:21:48 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/sources-evander-kane-is-subject-of-sex-offense-investigation-20151227

Worked to get the other Kane producing... is he trying to follow suit?
LOL

Evander Kane under investigation for sexual assault allegations.

Brilliant and I would say the timing is just about right!!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 28, 2015, 02:35:36 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/sources-evander-kane-is-subject-of-sex-offense-investigation-20151227

Worked to get the other Kane producing... is he trying to follow suit?

Because Patrick Kane was so unproductive before this season, right...? ???

Must be something in that Buffalo water.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 29, 2015, 05:40:38 AM
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/12/28/evander-kane-denies-any-wrongdoing-in-encounter-with-20-year-old-woman/

Although Kane did not provide any further details during his brief statement, sources familiar with the case said he has told people that he had consensual sex with the young woman after meeting her in a downtown bar and taking her to his room in the Buffalo Marriott HarborCenter early Sunday morning.

Authorities said Buffalo Police responded to a 911 call from a hospital about 7:40 a.m. Sunday after the woman went there for treatment of an injury.

The woman?s statement to police prompted an investigation by the Sex Offense Squad to determine if she had been sexually assaulted, sources said. Authorities said the woman told police she has ?no recollection? of what actually happened between her and Kane.

The woman was examined for signs of sexual assault in a local hospital, and signs of trauma were found on her body, authorities said.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on December 30, 2015, 12:31:52 AM
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/12/28/evander-kane-denies-any-wrongdoing-in-encounter-with-20-year-old-woman/

Although Kane did not provide any further details during his brief statement, sources familiar with the case said he has told people that he had consensual sex with the young woman after meeting her in a downtown bar and taking her to his room in the Buffalo Marriott HarborCenter early Sunday morning.

Authorities said Buffalo Police responded to a 911 call from a hospital about 7:40 a.m. Sunday after the woman went there for treatment of an injury.

The woman?s statement to police prompted an investigation by the Sex Offense Squad to determine if she had been sexually assaulted, sources said. Authorities said the cwoman told police she has ?no recollection? of what actually happened between her and Kane.

The woman was examined for signs of sexual assault in a local hospital, and signs of trauma were found on her body, authorities said.

not to bright a girl to mess around with that dude.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 30, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
It is going to be interesting to see what the hotel tapes reveal... consent requires the parties to not be impaired, if she can't remember anything, it might be a case of Kane thinking "She didn't say No" was consent.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on December 30, 2015, 02:15:12 PM
Did anyone think that, nearing the halfway point in the season, Ryan Getzlaf would only have 2 more goals than Chris Getzlaf?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 30, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
Brad Marchand still up to his greaseball antics... I really hope the NHL throws the book at that dirty goof and he misses a few games. For such a skilled player, he's sure stupid.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on December 30, 2015, 03:38:47 PM
Brad Marchand still up to his greaseball antics... I really hope the NHL throws the book at that dirty goof and he misses a few games. For such a skilled player, he's sure stupid.

Sadly, I doubt it. A suspension takes him out of the Winter Classic. Watch him get the max possible fine.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on December 30, 2015, 03:50:08 PM
Sadly, I doubt it. A suspension takes him out of the Winter Classic. Watch him get the max possible fine.

Sounds like it's a phone hearing. I doubt he misses the WC. :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on December 30, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
What a cheap, practised, move by Marchand. He has done this deliberate low to the knees motion before & it is just so unnecessary.

May get 2 games & a fine but IMO, just would not be enough for this repeat offender, of cheap shots.
BTW: late in game a replay shows him spearing an Ottawa player.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Tiger on January 02, 2016, 04:45:19 AM
It is going to be interesting to see what the hotel tapes reveal... consent requires the parties to not be impaired, if she can't remember anything, it might be a case of Kane thinking "She didn't say No" was consent.

It will be....


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 04, 2016, 01:20:39 AM
It will be....
so there is a tape of wrong doings?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on January 06, 2016, 11:40:48 PM
Terrific trade for both Nashville & Columbus ...... both teams are winners now in this great Hockey trade
Johannson gets lucky to be out of Torterella's claws & gets on a playoff bound team. Seth Jones gets to excell as a top pair Dman now, as he was behind Josi & Weber before. 
Exciting to see action by GM's ..... hint to Chevy


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 07, 2016, 02:31:13 AM
Some big trades today. The Jones/Johansen swap should help both teams, I'm not sure what to make of the Kings acquiring Lecavalier and L. Schenn but considering the Flyers retained portions of both contracts, I'm guessing it's for veteran depth.

Also interesting to see Mike Richards sign with the Capitals. And for a friendly amount.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on January 21, 2016, 01:04:02 AM
Read that Tampa's little rebel, J. Drouin, has been suspended indefinitely, without pay, for failing to report to play in tonight's Syracuse game.
His agent said that he & Jonathon, based on their agreement with Tampa on his conditioning stint, in preparation for his being traded ......... asked Tampa to now allow him to sit out further games, in order to keep him healthy. Tampa refused the request, so after playing one more game, Drouin now said I won't show up, trade me.
Crazy, privileged in hi own mind, man child, may now, IMO, slow down the process. Also, Yzerman may have to accept less for this talented head case
Look forward to hearing more


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 21, 2016, 01:35:57 AM
Yzerman has lost any advantage in this.

Any goal of moving this player for something has failed on him. He now gets nothing. He will now have to take less just to keep face.

Islanders may finfd them self in this same position.

Id trade them Postma and Chiarot for Ham.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on January 21, 2016, 02:12:11 AM
I don't see the Islanders trading any of their defensemen considering the injuries they have.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on January 21, 2016, 03:13:51 AM
Yzerman has lost any advantage in this.

Any goal of moving this player for something has failed on him. He now gets nothing. He will now have to take less just to keep face.

Islanders may finfd them self in this same position.

Id trade them Postma and Chiarot for Ham.

Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.

Maybe he'll ship him over to Colorado so MacKinnon can fool everyone into thinking he is a competent hockey player for a second time.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on January 21, 2016, 04:23:38 AM
I don't see the Islanders trading any of their defensemen considering the injuries they have.
Yes, Hamonic is day to day with back issues. Think he has missed about 4 games now & Boychuk much longer.
Postma & Chiarot may not be dangled by Chevy but maybe they would bite on a Postma, Peluso & Petan offering.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 21, 2016, 01:26:51 PM
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.

Maybe he'll ship him over to Colorado so MacKinnon can fool everyone into thinking he is a competent hockey player for a second time.
no kidding McKinnon, all the hype, and for what? An average point getter in the league. Kinda sucks!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 21, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
Does Drouin have the same agent as Lindross?  ;D ::)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 21, 2016, 06:11:16 PM
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.

This. Yzerman and the Lightning aren't at fault for any of this, IMO.

Drouin seems to have somewhat of a prima donna attitude and his jerk store of an agent is only throwing fuel on the fire with this public statements calling out the Lightning. This is a lose-lose for Drouin.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 21, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
This. Yzerman and the Lightning aren't at fault for any of this, IMO.

Drouin seems to have somewhat of a prima donna attitude and his jerk store of an agent is only throwing fuel on the fire with this public statements calling out the Lightning. This is a lose-lose for Drouin.
i can't see him being a Bonifide NHLer now!

But he has a case when a guy like Stamkos won't resign.... Yet. Something weird is happening with Stevie Y and the bolts???


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 22, 2016, 01:06:56 AM
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.

Maybe he'll ship him over to Colorado so MacKinnon can fool everyone into thinking he is a competent hockey player for a second time.

Somewhat agree.

Its become a cluster ...  now.

I still think if Yzerman pulled the trigger and got it done at first hed have got more then he will now.

Drouin has sabotaged any deal in all ways. He looks bad now and team may not want him.

Hes still a young good player. His potential is big.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on January 22, 2016, 02:09:55 AM
Somewhat agree.

Its become a cluster ...  now.

I still think if Yzerman pulled the trigger and got it done at first hed have got more then he will now.

Drouin has sabotaged any deal in all ways. He looks bad now and team may not want him.

Hes still a young good player. His potential is big.

It's been a cluster for about a year now, it's just far more public than it had been in the past. Many people have been privy to Drouin's terrible attitude since his time in Halifax, for sure all 30 GM's have known about it too.

If anything this whole thing helps Yzerman. The more Drouin plays at a professional level the more his stock is going to drop. He is absurdly overvalued right now. His potential was big about 3 years ago, I think most have discovered that all it was, was potential. Most teams gunning for him appear to be doing so with an attitude that they can fix him more so than they are getting anything of quality right now.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 22, 2016, 02:44:03 AM
It's been a cluster for about a year now, it's just far more public than it had been in the past. Many people have been privy to Drouin's terrible attitude since his time in Halifax, for sure all 30 GM's have known about it too.

If anything this whole thing helps Yzerman. The more Drouin plays at a professional level the more his stock is going to drop. He is absurdly overvalued right now. His potential was big about 3 years ago, I think most have discovered that all it was, was potential. Most teams gunning for him appear to be doing so with an attitude that they can fix him more so than they are getting anything of quality right now.

His worth to Yzerman was better before then it is now.

Its what i said to begin with.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 22, 2016, 02:57:02 AM
Who cares screw Droin!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 22, 2016, 01:33:06 PM
i can't see him being a Bonifide NHLer now!

But he has a case when a guy like Stamkos won't resign.... Yet. Something weird is happening with Stevie Y and the bolts???

Not necessarily. Stamkos is a franchise player who wants a big payday. Yzerman can't just give him whatever he wants and risk handcuffing the organization, especially with other key players needing contracts in the near future. It's no different than Cheveldayoff's negotiations with Ladd and Byfuglien.

Drouin got a taste of the pros and now seems to think he is entitled to play at that level regardless of how he performs. That's a bad attitude for a professional athlete to have.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 23, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Sounds like buff is close heard zip on Ladd. Trade him and someone else for Hamonic!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 26, 2016, 07:41:38 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-f-horcoff-suspended-20-games-for-peds-1.428881 (http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-f-horcoff-suspended-20-games-for-peds-1.428881)

Yikes. Must've been pretty low quality PEDs. :D


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on January 27, 2016, 12:12:36 AM
Sounds like buff is close heard zip on Ladd. Trade him and someone else for Hamonic!

Id trade Ladd n Pav for Ham in a sec.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 27, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
Id trade Ladd n Pav for Ham in a sec.

The Islanders don't want either of them.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 03:13:31 PM
Wideman?  Accident, or on purpose.

Looking at the short gif's, immediately say "20 games". 

Looking at the longer tapes, including the hit on him and him wobbling back to the bench, I'm thinking he's been knocked loopy, and is heading instinctively to the bench,  doesn't see the linesman skating into his path until its too late, and bring up his stick to protect himself. 

Some people are suggesting if it had been a red sweater, he'd hug instead of hit the guy, and that might be true.  But we don't know that.  If it had been an opponent, blocking his way to the bench, no issue. 

Here is my concern.  In the wild, Zebras are striped as camoflage, and I'm wondering if he was discombobulated enough that the optical centres of his brain couldn't resolve the black/white linesman from the boards/ice.  That combo blends in nicely to the background and if his vision was fuzzy at all, that backwards skating lineman could have been a blur that suddenly resolved into an object a split second before the collision, and instinctively Wideman defends himself.

If this was a goon, or someone famous for stickwork, or taking cheap shots, I have no issue with throwing the book at him.  But Wideman is not that player. 

I think the bigger problem is being missed here.  The fact that both he and the lineman continued without undergoing concussion protocols is disconcerting.  People are claiming that because Wideman didn't go to the quiet room after his hit, it proves he knew what he was doing.  I don't see that.  I see that a player wasn't protected by the system and sent off.  Then, things escalate, because the linesman ends up spending until 5am in the hospital going through the protocols.  Should he not have done that at the time of the hit? 

In my eyes, this was an unfortunate accident, and both player and linesman are victims of not being protected after the incident.  Wideman will get 10-20 games, for sure, but I don't think he deserves that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 03:16:48 PM
Flames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044)

What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 03:44:29 PM
Flames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044)

What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.

Did you watch the whole replay including the hit on Wideman and him getting up and heading to the bench?  Listen to the commentators...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOx0Cwi6wR0

If you just watch the gif's a completely different look...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZEjWLgpMY



Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 04:03:31 PM
Did you watch the whole replay including the hit on Wideman and him getting up and heading to the bench?  Listen to the commentators...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOx0Cwi6wR0

If you just watch the gif's a completely different look...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZEjWLgpMY

That's the exact replay I've watched and what's been shown on TV and online. What exactly am I listening to from the commentators?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on January 29, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Flames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044)

What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.

Such a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Such a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.

My thoughts exactly. You stop, apologize, and make sure he's okay. Right then and there. Wideman waited until his next shift to go and say sorry. That seems pretty odd.

How anybody could reasonably defend what he did is beyond me.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 05:14:54 PM
That's the exact replay I've watched and what's been shown on TV and online. What exactly am I listening to from the commentators?

Their first reaction was that he didn't see the linesman. 

Such a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.

Wideman had to get to the bench and sit down before he fell down.  He was not in his right mind, and should have been sent to the quiet room.  You can see how dazed he was on the bench.  By the time he got his faculties back, he was back out on the ice, and apologized.  I really think he should have been sent for protocol, but no hockey player would ever volunteer for that, teams and the league have to be a lot more proactive in sending these guys off.

My thoughts exactly. You stop, apologize, and make sure he's okay. Right then and there. Wideman waited until his next shift to go and say sorry. That seems pretty odd.

How anybody could reasonably defend what he did is beyond me.

Not defending the action or outcome, just explaining that it wasn't a blatant attack on an official.  He didn't skate up to an unsuspecting ref and whack him.  He was heading to his safe place in a diminished capacity after whacking his head off the glass, and as a well camouflaged linesman skated into his path he brought his arms up (still holding his stick) to protect himself. 

Was it intentional?  Was it an attack on an official?  Is he known for this kind of behaviour?  Not at all.

Is it an offence deserving suspension?  Yes.  He will get 10 games minimum.  Just like a player gets a penalty when his stick hits someone inadvertently, or gets his stick caught between another players legs.  Not intentional, but actionable. 

I just think he's getting a bad rap for what is obviously an accident, and that the league should have stepped in and put both Wideman and the linesman through the protocol.  That's what its for.  And its up to the league to make it happen, hockey players and refs are "too tough" to voluntarily subject themselves to protocol.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 05:26:19 PM
Their first reaction was that he didn't see the linesman. 

Wideman had to get to the bench and sit down before he fell down.  He was not in his right mind, and should have been sent to the quiet room.  You can see how dazed he was on the bench.  By the time he got his faculties back, he was back out on the ice, and apologized.  I really think he should have been sent for protocol, but no hockey player would ever volunteer for that, teams and the league have to be a lot more proactive in sending these guys off.

Not defending the action or outcome, just explaining that it wasn't a blatant attack on an official.  He didn't skate up to an unsuspecting ref and whack him.  He was heading to his safe place in a diminished capacity after whacking his head off the glass, and as a well camouflaged linesman skated into his path he brought his arms up (still holding his stick) to protect himself. 

Was it intentional?  Was it an attack on an official?  Is he known for this kind of behaviour?  Not at all.

Is it an offence deserving suspension?  Yes.  He will get 10 games minimum.  Just like a player gets a penalty when his stick hits someone inadvertently, or gets his stick caught between another players legs.  Not intentional, but actionable. 

I just think he's getting a bad rap for what is obviously an accident, and that the league should have stepped in and put both Wideman and the linesman through the protocol.  That's what its for.  And its up to the league to make it happen, hockey players and refs are "too tough" to voluntarily subject themselves to protocol.

Who cares? How is that is any way relevant to what actually happened?

And you have no idea what he was feeling. So, don't try and tell anyone how you claim to know. The fact is he shoved a linesman after skating in a straight line from the top of the face-off circle with his head up and after slamming his stick on the ice in what appears to be frustration. And it isn't like he just skated into Henderson. He shoved him. He made the deliberate act of shoving him.

And he should be getting a bad rap for what he did. Watching the entirety of the replay shows it looks like anything but an accident. I don't see how there is a valid argument otherwise.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on January 29, 2016, 08:37:35 PM
Glad he's suspended indefinitely. The dick head


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 11:56:15 PM
Who cares? How is that is any way relevant to what actually happened?

And you have no idea what he was feeling. So, don't try and tell anyone how you claim to know. The fact is he shoved a linesman after skating in a straight line from the top of the face-off circle with his head up and after slamming his stick on the ice in what appears to be frustration. And it isn't like he just skated into Henderson. He shoved him. He made the deliberate act of shoving him.

And he should be getting a bad rap for what he did. Watching the entirety of the replay shows it looks like anything but an accident. I don't see how there is a valid argument otherwise.

And neither do you.  What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on January 30, 2016, 12:46:10 AM
And neither do you.  What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?

Anger over a non-call definitely seems plausible. :-\


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on January 30, 2016, 02:01:14 AM
Anger over a non-call definitely seems plausible. :-\

Well, then he must have been concussed, because linesmen can call penalties...


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2016, 01:10:29 AM
And neither do you.  What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?

I never claimed I did, did I? You did.

I watched the replay and gave my opinion based on it. He appears to shove the linesman for no particular reason. It looks intentional to me. I don't know what motivated him and I never opined on that at all.

Well, then he must have been concussed, because linesmen can call penalties...

That isn't quite accurate, actually.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: True Blue on February 02, 2016, 11:48:14 PM
Linesmen can call to many men at least.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on February 03, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
I dunno but McJesus put on a show


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Stretch on February 03, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
I dunno but McJesus put on a show

He might end up costing the Oilers their first overall draft pick.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 03, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
Wideman suspended 20 games.

Glad to see the NHL got it right!


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 03, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
Wideman suspended 20 games.

Glad to see the NHL got it right!

No surprise there. Intentional or not (it's really not relevant), he shoved a linesman. That'll always end badly for the player.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 03, 2016, 09:55:45 PM
No surprise there. Intentional or not (it's really not relevant), he shoved a linesman. That'll always end badly for the player.

An appeal is expected so it's very likely the NHL started high knowing there is a possibility of having to shave off 5 games.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 03, 2016, 10:04:17 PM
An appeal is expected so it's very likely the NHL started high knowing there is a possibility of having to shave off 5 games.

Quote
40.2 Automatic Suspension

Category I

Any player who deliberately strikes an official and causes injury or who deliberately applies physical force in any manner against an official with intent to injure, or who in any manner attempts to injure an official shall be automatically suspended for not less than twenty (20) games. (For the purpose ofthe rule, ?intent to injure? shall mean any physical force which a player knew or should have known could reasonably be expected to cause injury.

Good luck with that.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 03, 2016, 10:40:45 PM
Good luck with that.

I agree he is up against it, and I think it was "deliberate"...however, that could still be argued to an appeal board.

Lots of $$ at play here, and Wideman does have a few things on his side, so he would be foolish not to give an appeal a shot.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Nic16 on February 04, 2016, 02:21:20 AM
NHLPA is filing an appeal...

http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension (http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Stretch on February 04, 2016, 11:22:50 AM
NHLPA is filing an appeal...

http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension (http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension)

Interesting (but not surprising) that the union disagrees "with the League's decision to suspend" and not the length of the suspension. I realize that it's their job to defend their guy, but let's be realistic here.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on February 05, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
He might end up costing the Oilers their first overall draft pick.
Firstly we are after a playoff birth.

Don't worry he will help Jets EARN a first overall pick ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 05, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
Firstly we are after a playoff birth.

Don't worry he will help Jets EARN a first overall pick ;)
oilers will have better odds though!😉


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on February 06, 2016, 12:18:10 AM
Ah we will WIN the draft even being in playoffs spot ;)
2 outta 4 years we won 1st overall :not even needing to be last  ;)


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 08, 2016, 01:27:28 PM
Firstly we are after a playoff birth.

Don't worry he will help Jets EARN a first overall pick ;)

I can't see the Oilers finishing better than last in the Pacific. They'll be getting another top end draft pick this summer, hopefully along with the Jets.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on February 09, 2016, 09:04:10 PM
I can't see the Oilers finishing better than last in the Pacific. They'll be getting another top end draft pick this summer, hopefully along with the Jets.
you know what? Its fing embarrassing already! How cna you look so strong and then killed so strong. #OnlyOilersHockey
Better win some games very soon! I want Thachuk!!! But I know Jets fans want him too.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 09, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
you know what? Its fing embarrassing already! How cna you look so strong and then killed so strong. #OnlyOilersHockey
Better win some games very soon! I want Thachuk!!! But I know Jets fans want him too.

Tkachuk? Theres 4, arguably 5 players available this year better than Tkachuk. If I'm in the basement of the league over halfway through the season Tkachuk isn't who I want.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 09, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
what a wacky trade between Senators & the Leafs ........ happy for Dion P., in getting out of Leaf land ........... he may desire to be back there in maybe 3 years.

Expect us to land out of the Top 5 unless Chevy moves up or the Jets really tank (which I do not expect)....... so Tkachuk will probably not be available IMO.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on February 09, 2016, 10:16:29 PM
Tkachuk? Theres 4, arguably 5 players available this year better than Tkachuk. If I'm in the basement of the league over halfway through the season Tkachuk isn't who I want.

Tkachuk is ranked 4th over all what are you talking about.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 09, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Tkachuk is ranked 4th over all what are you talking about.

So was Raffi Torres.

Matthews, Puljujarvi, Laine, Chychrun, Nylander are all better choices than Tkachuk. If my team was drafting and Tkachuk was the BPA I'd trade down.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2016, 01:07:27 AM
So was Raffi Torres.

Matthews, Puljujarvi, Laine, Chychrun, Nylander are all better choices than Tkachuk. If my team was drafting and Tkachuk was the BPA I'd trade down.

But if the Jets get the fifth overall pick, I don't think anyone would be upset about Tkachuk getting taken. Same goes for the Oilers or whatever team were to draft him.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jockitch on February 10, 2016, 01:11:36 AM
Colton ........ any strong reasons you have, that would enlighten us, why you feel Tkachuk would be a bad choice

personally I am not on top of what makes Nylander a better choice, as an example


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey on February 10, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Agreed Nylander no thx. Rather have north American power forward.

Colton maybe you would choose others, fine.  But that doesn't mean you're right either.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
Nazem Kadri in hot water again:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889)

This kid is a loser.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
Nazem Kadri in hot water again:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889)

This kid is a loser.

And the kid Toronto is building around... lovely.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Colton on February 10, 2016, 04:05:36 PM
Agreed Nylander no thx. Rather have north American power forward.

Colton maybe you would choose others, fine.  But that doesn't mean you're right either.

Lol, I bet you would have taken Virtanen over Ehlers/Nylander as well.


Title: Re: NHL Discussion (Other than Jets)
Post by: Jersey o