It's been about a year since Schoen blew out the knee again. This is around the time those things heal up. Do we have any updates or info on him at all? Ya, I know we didn't re-sign him, but neither did anyone else. If he hasn't retired yet, he may give it another shot.
And I think we'd be buyers: pro-rated end-of-year-only salary would be affordable. No bonus, so we get full 6G protection if he blows the knee again, which is at least 50/50 shot.
Depends what Schoen we'd be getting. His health is a just a giant question mark. I would be afraid they bring him back out of loyalty and he can't do it. The fact that we have heard nothing probably means he is not attempting to come back in any case.
Sure, but look at how the Strev situation was handled. Pretty much everyone, including Strev, was pretty upfront about the situation. And then he officially retired.
With Schoen it's crickets. He's pretty much a star name here, and a very popular player. You'd think that would warrant more than, say, M.Miller's never-ending injury before he retired.
As for caring what Schoen we get... who cares if there's no bonus and it's all 6-gameable? We literally have nothing to lose in terms of SMS. If he sucks you simply don't AR him and he quietly retires in FA.
The cost would be taking reps from our import starters who have done pretty well. We are always saying more practice is better aren't we? If we have an injury, touch wood, it would be a better idea.
A few major injuries, hasn't been healthy since the end of 2023. Not worth bringing back.
If a return was anywhere on the horizon, we'd be hearing about him looking for workouts with teams.
Walters seemed pretty doubtful that a return was possible. I find it weird that people feel the need to bring it up every few weeks.
If we are looking for receivers I would think we would try to bring in Lewis rather then someone who hasn't played much since 2023
Quote from: Jesse on August 27, 2026, 12:49:45 PMI find it weird that people feel the need to bring it up every few weeks.
Extreme desperation? ;D
Quote from: Waffler on August 27, 2026, 12:05:13 PMThe cost would be taking reps from our import starters
My thought is he'd take Nields spot. Imagine, a rec that can block AND catch. And be the best scramble rules rec this team has seen in a decade.
Quote from: Tecno on August 27, 2026, 01:17:03 PMMy thought is he'd take Nields spot. Imagine, a rec that can block AND catch. And be the best scramble rules rec this team has seen in a decade.
That guy is gone.
Quote from: bluengold204 on August 27, 2026, 01:08:51 PMIf we are looking for receivers I would think we would try to bring in Lewis rather then someone who hasn't played much since 2023
100%
If this team is that desperate for help at receiver, Lewis would make way more sense than Schoen.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 27, 2026, 01:45:54 PMIf this team is that desperate for help at receiver, Lewis would make way more sense than Schoen.
Also probably triple the price, and will want a big bonus.
And Lewis isn't a Schoen-like scramble rules wizard. He's a pokey type home run hitter. Which is the last thing we need more of, with a qb that can't throw more than 50y.
And whose to say he gets along with dru. You'd think that if dru loved Gino he'd already be here. There's a chance there's bad blood instead.
Quote from: Tecno on August 27, 2026, 01:53:47 PMAlso probably triple the price, and will want a big bonus.
And Lewis isn't a Schoen-like scramble rules wizard. He's a pokey type home run hitter. Which is the last thing we need more of, with a qb that can't throw more than 50y.
And whose to say he gets along with dru. You'd think that if dru loved Gino he'd already be here. There's a charge there's bad blood instead.
Of course Lewis would cost more. Duh. LOL
this ship has sadly sailed away
How would you get him on the roster? The Nield-Cobb-Corcoran dream team are just too elite. Best we could do it is put him on the practice roster and see if there's been any deviation in his attitude over the last year. That should take about 9 months.
Quote from: Waffler on August 27, 2026, 12:05:13 PMThe cost would be taking reps from our import starters who have done pretty well. We are always saying more practice is better aren't we? If we have an injury, touch wood, it would be a better idea.
Why would he be taking reps from our import starters instead of replacing one of our Canadians?
Quote from: Tecno on August 27, 2026, 01:53:47 PMAlso probably triple the price, and will want a big bonus.
And Lewis isn't a Schoen-like scramble rules wizard. He's a pokey type home run hitter. Which is the last thing we need more of, with a qb that can't throw more than 50y.
And whose to say he gets along with dru. You'd think that if dru loved Gino he'd already be here. There's a chance there's bad blood instead.
There could be another reason Gino isn't here even if Dru LOVES him, Price. Gino knows he will get paid, by a team that loses a top WR just before the playoffs, or needs that push over the edge (which may be us).
When is the "have to be on the roster to be eligible for the playoffs" cut off date? Gino has until then, and if he gets no bites, he can sign a lesser deal that we can afford then.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2026, 03:46:31 PMWhy would he be taking reps from our import starters instead of replacing one of our Canadians?
We already have an upgrade in Singer and he hasn't seen the field. They don't want to change the ratio.
Quote from: Waffler on August 27, 2026, 03:55:11 PMWe already have an upgrade in Singer and he hasn't seen the field. They don't want to change the ratio.
I'm aware of that, however Singer is not Schoen. Schoen had chemistry with Collaros and a proven CFL track record. Singer may be a good receiver in the future or a casualty before TC 2027. IDK.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2026, 04:00:50 PMI'm aware of that, however Singer is not Schoen. Schoen had chemistry with Collaros and a proven CFL track record. Singer may be a good receiver in the future or a casualty before TC 2027. IDK.
I guess I am convinced they won't change the ratio here. If they were going to Singer would be in for Cobb by now.
Quote from: Waffler on August 27, 2026, 04:23:41 PMI guess I am convinced they won't change the ratio here. If they were going to Singer would be in for Cobb by now.
I think we're all convinced of that but what haven't had the option of a returning vet. We still don't have that option with Schoen. He has probably retired and just not made that announcement.
Neither Wilson or White have played themselves off the roster. The same can't be said for a couple of Canadian receivers.
We do have the ratio room to add Singer in lieu of Hazen as I suggested. Obviously that hasn't been done either.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2026, 04:31:38 PMI think we're all convinced of that but what haven't had the option of a returning vet. We still don't have that option with Schoen. He has probably retired and just not made that announcement.
Neither Wilson or White have played themselves off the roster. The same can't be said for a couple of Canadian receivers.
We do have the ratio room to add Singer in lieu of Hazen as I suggested. Obviously that hasn't been done either.
How many reps do you think Singer would get per game when he shares that roster spot with Daniels, Clercius and MCI, there's only 12 slots on offence and that one gets the most rotation. Seems like MCI is not on the field except for ST and 3rd down gambles and in that case he's replacing Nield.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 27, 2026, 06:21:22 PMHow many reps do you think Singer would get per game when he shares that roster spot with Daniels, Clercius and MCI, there's only 12 slots on offence and that one gets the most rotation. Seems like MCI is not on the field except for ST and 3rd down gambles and in that case he's replacing Nield.
not many
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 27, 2026, 06:21:22 PMHow many reps do you think Singer would get per game when he shares that roster spot with Daniels, Clercius and MCI, there's only 12 slots on offence and that one gets the most rotation. Seems like MCI is not on the field except for ST and 3rd down gambles and in that case he's replacing Nield.
How many do you think he'd get if we lose Wilson or White to in game injury? At worst he's a better depth option. At best he draws coverage from our primary receivers since he's faster. He's probably a better decoy running through the back field option we use with Demski who is also fighting injury.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2026, 07:55:43 PMHow many do you think he'd get if we lose Wilson or White to in game injury? At worst he's a better depth option. At best he draws coverage from our primary receivers since he's faster. He's probably a better decoy running through the back field option we use with Demski who is also fighting injury.
Decoys work if they are threat
If Singer was used in that role he would get little attention until he started to burn teams
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 27, 2026, 09:19:58 PMDecoys work if they are threat
If Singer was used in that role he would get little attention until he started to burn teams
In 2025 our 3rd leading import receivers behind Wheatfall and Sterns.
1. Schoen played 5 games and was targeted 34 times
2. Wilson played 6 games and was targeted 36 times
In pre season Singer was targeted 10 times and had 5 receptions for about 86 yards in total.
Cobb in 10 games targeted 20 times for 125 yards.
Corcoran in 6 games targeted 5 times for 25 yards
I know that's comparing pre season to regular season games. However there is enough data from 2025 using a 3rd import and pre season to suggest another import would see more targets.
Look at any team using 3 imports and see the comparison of targets.
Singer completed his collegiate career at Utah, starting all 12 games and recording 53 receptions for 702 yards and one touchdown. Prior to Utah, he played at USC, where he totaled 24 receptions for 289 yards and three touchdowns in 12 games (10 starts).
In his breakout season at Arizona in 2022, Singer emerged as one of the Pac-12's top receivers, leading the conference with 1,105 receiving yards on 66 receptions while adding six touchdowns and starting 11 of 12 games.
Playing style: He compensates for average speed with exceptional route-running, strong hands, and body control on contested catches.
It's been discussed why we don't think adding Gino Lewis is a good idea. That said if we did he'd certainly draw more coverage and targets than Cobb as the example.
Singer has not had a regular season opportunity but Cobb is only averaging 12.5 yards per game. We've had a ratio opportunity with starting Smith at SAM. The alternative might be Womack which has been mentioned a few times.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2026, 09:25:48 PMIn 2025 our 3rd leading import receivers behind Wheatfall and Sterns.
1. Schoen played 5 games and was targeted 34 times
2. Wilson played 6 games and was targeted 36 times
In pre season Singer was targeted 10 times and had 5 receptions for about 86 yards in total.
Cobb in 10 games targeted 20 times for 125 yards.
Corcoran in 6 games targeted 5 times for 25 yards
I know that's comparing pre season to regular season games. However there is enough data from 2025 using a 3rd import and pre season to suggest another import would see more targets.
Look at any team using 3 imports and see the comparison of targets.
Singer completed his collegiate career at Utah, starting all 12 games and recording 53 receptions for 702 yards and one touchdown. Prior to Utah, he played at USC, where he totaled 24 receptions for 289 yards and three touchdowns in 12 games (10 starts).
In his breakout season at Arizona in 2022, Singer emerged as one of the Pac-12's top receivers, leading the conference with 1,105 receiving yards on 66 receptions while adding six touchdowns and starting 11 of 12 games.
Playing style: He compensates for average speed with exceptional route-running, strong hands, and body control on contested catches.
It's been discussed why we don't think adding Gino Lewis is a good idea. That said if we did he'd certainly draw more coverage and targets than Cobb as the example.
Singer has not had a regular season opportunity but Cobb is only averaging 12.5 yards per game. We've had a ratio opportunity with starting Smith at SAM. The alternative might be Womack which has been mentioned a few times.
Some great info and points but I don't see him getting many balls early but would if he had success or the offense was speading the ball around and firing on all cylinders.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 27, 2026, 03:54:13 PMThere could be another reason Gino isn't here even if Dru LOVES him, Price. Gino knows he will get paid, by a team that loses a top WR just before the playoffs, or needs that push over the edge (which may be us).
When is the "have to be on the roster to be eligible for the playoffs" cut off date? Gino has until then, and if he gets no bites, he can sign a lesser deal that we can afford then.
He won't get paid anything if he comes on just before the playoffs. There's 8 games left. The salary is going to be minimal.
If Geno was going to get paid, he would have been signed already. Dude's done. Still better than Cobb or Neild, but he's now a JAG (Just Another Guy).
Quote from: Waffler on August 27, 2026, 04:23:41 PMI guess I am convinced they won't change the ratio here. If they were going to Singer would be in for Cobb by now.
They wouldn't have to change the ratio. They seem to be of the opinion that singer and Womack aren't good enough.
And to be fair, none of us know if they are any good.
Quote from: Jesse on August 27, 2026, 11:03:59 PMThey wouldn't have to change the ratio. They seem to be of the opinion that singer and Womack aren't good enough.
And to be fair, none of us know if they are any good.
On his podcast Bauming mentioned that Singer looks really sharp in practice.
I assume his knee is,shot., and for the record it takes about a year and a half so he's still in rehab or whatever he's doing, but I don't think he's coming back and yes, he would be an improvement over anything we have on the roster right now he even on one leg he helped Dempsey open up.
I thought you're really weird that they don't bring any Americans and especially during the break not that the best guys are available at this time but it will be cut down day arrives and it's just weird if you don't bring any guys in the guys got here are not very good in the Canadians or this is the worst group of Canadians we've ever had. It's really it's really odd. Are they trying to lose?Naw! They've been good in the past before and know how to recruit, but he's not doing much this year so very disappointing as it was way back when we better get off his *** cause he took the tickets next year.
If Schoen wants to try again I would welcome him back but not until 2027 TC, he's isn't going to change the trajectory this season.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 27, 2026, 11:29:10 PMOn his podcast Bauming mentioned that Singer looks really sharp in practice.
No matter how low our team sinks, I'm gonna go with the coaches opinion over Baumings.
Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2026, 12:44:00 AMNo matter how low our team sinks, I'm gonna go with the coaches opinion over Baumings.
Sure that makes sense on paper. If Singer and Womack are not " good " potential players then why have we not brought in new players to compete for spots on the PR since TC?
It was pre determined before TC that we would be using 3 Canadian receivers. That was a change from what we have done for longer than I can remember.
Part of that was the need to have 3 import OL. None of that means we don't have quality players in reserve on the PR in case we have injuries to starters.
Now we are starting a Canadian at SAM which would allow us to add a 3rd import receiver if we want.
We have started 9 Nats the last few games, no? No reason why we can't have another Int WR. As long as we can get him onto the roster.
Ratio kills for starters, but also for AR.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 28, 2026, 03:06:32 PMSure that makes sense on paper. If Singer and Womack are not " good " potential players then why have we not brought in new players to compete for spots on the PR since TC?
It was pre determined before TC that we would be using 3 Canadian receivers. That was a change from what we have done for longer than I can remember.
Part of that was the need to have 3 import OL. None of that means we don't have quality players in reserve on the PR in case we have injuries to starters.
Now we are starting a Canadian at SAM which would allow us to add a 3rd import receiver if we want.
RE: Singer and Womack - you can either attribute it to the coaches patience of letting guys develop and not starting them a) before they're ready and/or b) before injuries give them an opportunity because we don't bench guys - or you can attribute it to being midseason and there's no one our scouts are targeting and is available that we see as an upgrade to those 2. Or both.
RE: the ratio. If we decided that the ratio is the ratio, why is Smith starting? The ratio has been changed already. And if you think that the coaches are watching Singer/Womack and view them as clearly better than Cobb or Neild but we're still starting 9 Canadians just because it was previously decided that we were playing with 3 NI receivers, then we might as well just quit now, because that's ridiculous.
Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2026, 04:20:00 PMRE: Singer and Womack - you can either attribute it to the coaches patience of letting guys develop and not starting them a) before they're ready and/or b) before injuries give them an opportunity because we don't bench guys - or you can attribute it to being midseason and there's no one our scouts are targeting and is available that we see as an upgrade to those 2. Or both.
RE: the ratio. If we decided that the ratio is the ratio, why is Smith starting? The ratio has been changed already. And if you think that the coaches are watching Singer/Womack and view them as clearly better than Cobb or Neild but we're still starting 9 Canadians just because it was previously decided that we were playing with 3 NI receivers, then we might as well just quit now, because that's ridiculous.
Its not an issue of how many NATS you start that makes NAT Rec's a thing, but how many NATS you need on the roster. You need Hazen out for Boulaine to get you Singer or Womack onto the AR.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 28, 2026, 04:59:00 PMIts not an issue of how many NATS you start that makes NAT Rec's a thing, but how many NATS you need on the roster. You need Hazen out for Boulaine to get you Singer or Womack onto the AR.
What an irrelevant detail. Who cares which end of roster LB you have to switch out? Back end Americans have been moved on and off the roster all season.
Not what's keeping them off the roster.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 28, 2026, 04:59:00 PMIts not an issue of how many NATS you start that makes NAT Rec's a thing, but how many NATS you need on the roster. You need Hazen out for Boulaine to get you Singer or Womack onto the AR.
Nope. All you need to do is take Hazen off the AR to add an import receiver. We don't need another ST player making it necessary to add back Bouliane. We could if we wanted by taking a Canadian receiver off if we add an import receiver.
Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2026, 12:44:00 AMNo matter how low our team sinks, I'm gonna go with the coaches opinion over Baumings.
You have information from behind the Iron Curtain the coaches are not pleased with Singer?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 28, 2026, 06:33:56 PMYou have information from behind the Iron Curtain the coaches are not pleased with Singer?
Yeah. He's on the PR not the AR.
Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2026, 06:42:44 PMYeah. He's on the PR not the AR.
He's not worse than Cobb and everyone knows it -- he was just born on the south side of an arbitrary line. Yay CFL.
The receivers are not the problem with the offense. The coordinator, oline and qb are.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 28, 2026, 05:55:29 PMNope. All you need to do is take Hazen off the AR to add an import receiver. We don't need another ST player making it necessary to add back Bouliane. We could if we wanted by taking a Canadian receiver off if we add an import receiver.
But then you have an extra Rec who doesn't play tams, and are short an LB that does.
I believe he was already Schoen the door.
Kidding of course. We could really use him right now.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 28, 2026, 06:55:32 PMBut then you have an extra Rec who doesn't play tams, and are short an LB that does.
Not an important issue. Lots of our players can play ST's.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 28, 2026, 06:48:51 PMHe's not worse than Cobb and everyone knows it -- he was just born on the south side of an arbitrary line. Yay CFL.
We have zero evidence that Singer is any good. I'd like to see him play. Maybe it creates a spark. I'm on that side.
But he could also just not be very good. Or lazy. Or too dumb to remember the play book.
Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2026, 09:15:05 PMWe have zero evidence that Singer is any good. I'd like to see him play. Maybe it creates a spark. I'm on that side.
But he could also just not be very good. Or lazy. Or too dumb to remember the play book.
The only evidence we have is that they've kept him on the PR since final cuts after TC. Cobb sets a low bar.
Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2026, 09:15:05 PMWe have zero evidence that Singer is any good. I'd like to see him play. Maybe it creates a spark. I'm on that side.
But he could also just not be very good. Or lazy. Or too dumb to remember the play book.
...They looked at the entire US receiver market for an entire off season and selected someone worse than Cobb? Please. That's as unlikely as Deatrick Nichols breaking up a pass tonight.
Quote from: blue_or_die on August 28, 2026, 06:52:41 PMThe receivers are not the problem with the offense. The coordinator, oline and qb are.
Tell that to droppy nield, and never open cobb
The reason Smith is out there even though it changed the ratio is he's the best guy for the job right now. I'm grading him pretty good for a first time starter.
It's not that mafia won't change the ratio, it's just that they won't change the ratio elsewhere when another change gives them that option. So no singer even though smith starts.
Quote from: Tecno on August 28, 2026, 10:26:42 PMThe reason Smith is out there even though it changed the ratio is he's the best guy for the job right now. I'm grading him pretty good for a first time starter.
It's not that mafia won't change the ratio, it's just that they won't change the ratio elsewhere when another change gives them that option. So no singer even though smith starts.
Smith is the best player at the moment. That said it's process of elimination. That same could be said for Cobb as a starting receiver. Ditto Kelly at safety. Obviously injuries come into play in who is next man up.
I think Smith will continue to improve but I wouldn't guarantee he holds a starting role for the rest of the season.
Hard to say because of how O'Shea values Canadians whether they are ready or whether we didn't roster alternatives.
Cobb and nield are not the best available player right now. Singer would be better. Nield is hot butt. Cobb is probably better, but gets no targets as the official last read. At least he catches what is thrown to him, when it's catchable.
Quote from: Tecno on August 29, 2026, 12:22:08 AMCobb and nield are not the best available player right now. Singer would be better. Nield is hot butt. Cobb is probably better, but gets no targets as the official last read. At least he catches what is thrown to him, when it's catchable.
The best Canadians we have available if we refuse to change to a 3 import receiver plan. Also Demski came off the field before the end of the game and went to the dressing room. He's been having ankle problems for a few weeks and may have tweaked it more?
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 29, 2026, 03:41:29 AMThe best Canadians we have available if we refuse to change to a 3 import receiver plan. Also Demski came off the field before the end of the game and went to the dressing room. He's been having ankle problems for a few weeks and may have tweaked it more?
Demski going down isn't great but it provides a possible opportunity also.
Wilson, White, Singer, Nield and Clercius is a pretty good line up and you can still dress Cobb and Daniels.
Our Canadian receivers went 9/9 and 103 yards. Clercius and Nield 7/7, 86 yards. Nield made a couple of great catches, and made some very big blocks, but the fumble on the goal line will be what people focus on.
Clercius made some nice plays including blocking assignments.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 29, 2026, 02:18:58 PMClercius made some nice plays including blocking assignments.
Clercius definitely getting his looks ramped up. I think he's out there more than cobb now. He's versatile and starting to come into his own a bit more.
Ike is basically a ST thing now, but man is he a demon. He's on return and cover, and clearly an important part of the scheme.
Our specialist Nats are shaping up very nicely.
Quote from: Tecno on August 29, 2026, 02:38:29 PMClercius definitely getting his looks ramped up. I think he's out there more than cobb now. He's versatile and starting to come into his own a bit more.
Ike is basically a ST thing now, but man is he a demon. He's on return and cover, and clearly an important part of the scheme.
Our specialist Nats are shaping up very nicely.
The Bombers have 2 bruisers in Clercius and MCI like the Argos Mital, they need to get them the ball in space and let them run for the endzone, those 2 along with Brady could be a nightmare to deal with. The one way the Bombers may be able to upset the CFL's better teams heading into the playoffs is to play a different style of football that nobody is prepared for.
Quote from: Tecno on August 29, 2026, 02:38:29 PMClercius definitely getting his looks ramped up. I think he's out there more than cobb now. He's versatile and starting to come into his own a bit more.
Ike is basically a ST thing now, but man is he a demon. He's on return and cover, and clearly an important part of the scheme.
Our specialist Nats are shaping up very nicely.
He did take an early illegal block that put us deep in our zone. IIRC that resulted in a 2 and out with the Als getting good field position and then their 1st TD?
It seemed like a marginal penalty but those things can be fatal. Same as the Neufeld penalty that changed a TD opportunity to a FG.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 29, 2026, 01:54:38 PMOur Canadian receivers went 9/9 and 103 yards. Clercius and Nield 7/7, 86 yards. Nield made a couple of great catches, and made some very big blocks, but the fumble on the goal line will be what people focus on.
He didn't really fumble the ball, he got absolutely cranked when he caught the ball, anyone would have fumbled the ball after that hit. He also made a great contested catch in tight coverage. Cripes everybody fumbles the ball...heck I recall Brady and Demski fumbling the ball at critical times too in a game, it just happens, doesn't mean they aren't good football players.
tim white is better than schoen
Quote from: The Zipp on August 29, 2026, 06:08:52 PMtim white is better than schoen
Schoen was a good possession type receiver and a bigger target for Collaros.
Who is going to step forward to hold Neild's beer?
I think the fumble was a TD, though. Should have been called a TD, and then not overturned, rather than the other way around.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 29, 2026, 06:16:31 PMSchoen was a good possession type receiver and a bigger target for Collaros.
Was. He just doesn't exist anymore. If Zipp was trying to say that White is better than Schoen was in his peak, then that's ridiculous- though Tim has never missed a game.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 30, 2026, 01:18:01 AMWho is going to step forward to hold Neild's beer?
I think the fumble was a TD, though. Should have been called a TD, and then not overturned, rather than the other way around.
That wasn't a TD. The guy just couldn't go a game without costing us points.
Great game otherwise though.
Quote from: Jesse on August 30, 2026, 01:23:07 AMThat wasn't a TD. The guy just couldn't go a game without costing us points.
I think it was, but the nose of the ball got obscured by the hit. I have the computer PVR remember, and I can do infinite interesting things. I think the nose was literally on the line right when the hit obscures the ball.
I agree that if called they wouldn't overturn. But ref by rule needs to see that ball over the line, or the physics of body placement making it impossible that it's not. Neither occurred.
What could Nield have done? It was a tough situation. Knowing he was at the 1, he could have just not turned, and just dropped or absorbed the hit in the back. If you know you got 1st down at the 1, just going down may be the most prudent course. Tough to convince aggressive young REC of this, though -- the stat is much juicier for them.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 29, 2026, 06:08:52 PMtim white is better than schoen
Tim White is faster, has sweeter hands, and seems to be a better route runner. Might be smarter too. But absolutely no one was better at finding the soft spot or reading Zach's mind when the play breaks down. AFAICT White runs his route and then gives up if he wasn't the read.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 29, 2026, 05:52:29 PMHe did take an early illegal block that put us deep in our zone. IIRC that resulted in a 2 and out with the Als getting good field position and then their 1st TD?
It seemed like a marginal penalty but those things can be fatal. Same as the Neufeld penalty that changed a TD opportunity to a FG.
From my upcoming Tecno's Take:
1Q7:34 I thought "Ike doesn't make that IB mistake", and I don't think he did. Refs see someone fall down with someone behind and they just flag a ST IB. Ike never pushed him, in fact he tried to hold him up; it was their feet that collided, like an accidental DPI situation. Not sure if that qualifies to be flagged. Could have been challenged, but no way you figure that out in ~35s (I couldn't). I think the MTL guy sold it a bit, too.
Quote from: Tecno on August 30, 2026, 06:54:24 AMI think it was, but the nose of the ball got obscured by the hit. I have the computer PVR remember, and I can do infinite interesting things. I think the nose was literally on the line right when the hit obscures the ball.
I agree that if called they wouldn't overturn. But ref by rule needs to see that ball over the line, or the physics of body placement making it impossible that it's not. Neither occurred.
What could Nield have done? It was a tough situation. Knowing he was at the 1, he could have just not turned, and just dropped or absorbed the hit in the back. If you know you got 1st down at the 1, just going down may be the most prudent course. Tough to convince aggressive young REC of this, though -- the stat is much juicier for them.
lol. Held on to the ball.
Quote from: Jesse on August 30, 2026, 03:19:23 PMlol. Held on to the ball.
His head was also rocked in the collision, you can see the recoil.