Good: We limited Rankin better than any other team so far
Bad: Everything else
Ugly: Injuries
Good:
We did not throw in the towel.
We were in the game until the last minute after being initially down 17-0.
After the first half, we limited Rankin's production in the second half.
Zach Collaros performed well despite changes on the Oline.
Bad:
Falling behind 17-0
Missing 2 field goals (if made, arguably would have won the game).
Long Edmonton drives that killed the clock and resulted in Edmonton scores.
Turnovers.
Ugly:
The feeling I have of losing that game.
Younger has not improved at all as a DC. He needs to step back and let the BB find a real DC that knows how to stop drives.
Another good:
Quick payoff for the "set up" Condell was doing last 2 games. Quickest payoff I've ever seen for a setup... Lapo's would take like 15 weeks. And now we've used this chit, I can say what it was (but I'm sure you've sussed it out already):
The Perkin's 20Y "sneak". We had been putting Brady in motion crossing the LoS during sneaks. Never done that before. That was the setup. A D guy had to follow Brady across the line. Of course, Brady had nothing to do with the play. That was the setup.
So every opponent in film, including me, is waiting for that one time we'll hand off to Brady. So what does Condell do instead? He has Brady stop & 180 and lead block for Perkins to take it off the edge. That extra D guy is still running the wrong way and now out of the equation. Now no contain, and overloaded O on that side.
Brilliant stuff, and probably my play of the night. So much fun. Though, should I be disturbed that he felt he needed to cash this chip in this early in the season? Can't use this one again.
(Also, Condell had Brady crossing the opposite way of the setups, but that might have been a function of the hash -- or was it...?)
Another good:
Losing to EDM isn't the end of the world, even though they are divisional, because I don't think EDM will finish top-3 in the W. If we still have aspirations of winning the W (yes, it is possible, I'm not just crazy), we need to worry about the season series with SSK, BC & CGY. And EDM getting a good record to keep the W less lopsided will only help our goal.
Yes, EDM is better. But teams will figure them out. All they have is Rankin.
The gm didn't build the team up. They let wheatfall go to another team. They pick up White. They don't use another running back Need to use two quarterbacks. Glad they traded for Brown but didn't have to give up two first round picks. I don't think that was a great trade but they need Brown. Should never have traded him.. I would have put Perkins in for a couple plays in the third quarter or fourth quarter. The bad. Playing zone and letting them catch the ball in the middle of the field.
The Good
Dante Daniels, 51 yards recieving. Everyone thought he would just be a blocking TE.
Smith finally getting reps on defense.
The Bad
We play Hamilton next on the road.
Unknown extent of injuries last night and previously on 6 game IR.
Ceresna has been nursing an injury since TC and we may see him moved to 6 game IR as well.
The good
Vaval
Nichols
Marshall
2nd half d line
Bad
Fumbles (approaching ugly)
Youngers soft defense again
Vibert/Elsbury
Ugly
Two 90 yd drives, and one of them in the last 3 minutes again
Quote from: Pete on June 26, 2026, 01:46:54 PMThe good
Vaval
Nichols
Marshall
2nd half d line
Bad
Fumbles (approaching ugly)
Youngers soft defense again
Vibert/Elsbury
Ugly
Two 90 yd drives, and one of them in the last 3 minutes again
Was that last drive 90 yards? IIRC it was shorter but they only needed a FG to win. Getting a TD just meant we now needed a TD to win.
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 26, 2026, 12:52:02 PMThe Good
Dante Daniels, 51 yards recieving. Everyone thought he would just be a blocking TE.
Smith finally getting reps on defense.
No, he's a tight end that fumbles the ball!
good - defence in 2nd half at times, crowd made themselves heard, halftime singer was great, never heard of the guy but has a great voice.
bad/ugly- edmonton should have been able to run the clock down and kick a walk off FG - they botched that possession.
Officiating was bad - didn't cost any team the game but the many times they had to huddle to figure thigs out like the Edmonton TD was a joke
First half defence looked lost - literally didn't know where to go.
Losing two in a row at home - terrible...
offensive play calling - meh, not trying for a pass to the end zone and maybe getting a PI - dumb
turnovers
I think I saw a lot more good in this game than bad.
Good
The offence was rolling! Credit to Condell and Zach mostly.
Daniels stepping up and making some check down catches!
Great job from the special teams.
Defense tightening up in the second half.
Bad
That feeling of being up by a point with 4 minutes left in the game and you know we're about to bend but don't break our way into letting up a score.
Injuries to Ceresna and Pokey will be an issue. Hoping they are not long term...
UGLY
6 FUMBLES!!!! Perkins, Brady, Demski, Daniels, and Zach for sure all fumbled. We have to be tighter with the ball.
Quote from: Pete on June 26, 2026, 01:46:54 PMThe good
Vaval
Nichols
Marshall
2nd half d line
Bad
Fumbles (approaching ugly)
Youngers soft defense again
Vibert/Elsbury
Ugly
Two 90 yd drives, and one of them in the last 3 minutes again
Marshall?
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 26, 2026, 08:18:57 PMProbably meant Williams.
Maybe it was Holm. He had 9 TKLs
Quote from: Pigskin on June 26, 2026, 09:22:08 PMMaybe it was Holm. He had 9 TKLs
I suppose but Holm seemed a less likely error to Williams as far as number of letters in the name. That said, I don't know how he came up with Marshall in any practical sense.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 26, 2026, 01:11:05 PMCeresna has been nursing an injury since TC and we may see him moved to 6 game IR as well.
Where do you get that? If I had to guess I'd say he was dinged late game 1 or early game 2.that would explain the massive drop off in effectiveness.
Not saying you're wrong, but sounds like you got a scoop somewhere.
Quote from: Tecno on June 27, 2026, 05:04:58 AMWhere do you get that? If I had to guess I'd say he was dinged late game 1 or early game 2.that would explain the massive drop off in effectiveness.
Not saying you're wrong, but sounds like you got a scoop somewhere.
It was reported during TC that he was not practising at full load. No specific explanation why that was but he hasn't looked quite right so far this year.
If so, then another nick in game 1, may have slowed him down and explained the adding of 2 import DT's when Dixon got hurt.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 27, 2026, 09:00:58 PMIt was reported during TC that he was not practising at full load. No specific explanation why that was but he hasn't looked quite right so far this year.
Don't remember that one. Do you remember who said it? I can dig through the pressers...
He certainly looked "quite right" in week 1!! ;D ;D
Maybe his 2025 injury is still nagging. What was it again? Not hammy I hope.
Quote from: Tecno on June 28, 2026, 07:40:14 AMDon't remember that one. Do you remember who said it? I can dig through the pressers...
He certainly looked "quite right" in week 1!! ;D ;D
Maybe his 2025 injury is still nagging. What was it again? Not hammy I hope.
Something popped out and he had to be taken off the field on a stretcher, only to come back in the second half...I can't quite remember the sequence.
Here is the 3DN story.
"Ceresna had to be carted off the field after going down following a short-yardage play early in the third quarter. He initially got up after the B.C. Lions converted but immediately indicated an issue with his knee before returning to the turf. Members of both teams gathered around him as he was taken off the field.
The 31-year-old went down with a similar injury following a short-yardage play earlier in the game, later indicating to TSN that his knee had popped out of alignment. He was able to return, recording two tackles and intercepting a batted pass."
https://3downnation.com/2025/07/13/edmonton-elks-dl-jake-ceresna-carted-off-field-with-apparent-leg-injury-vs-b-c/
Did anyone else see one of the Edmonton coaches go (Dave Dickenson) beserk when they scored in the 2nd quarter with their last TD that took so long to decide from the Command Centre? I thought that female ref should have thrown a objectable/unsportsman penalty on him.
Quote from: barbk on June 28, 2026, 08:18:04 PMDid anyone else see one of the Edmonton coaches go (Dave Dickenson) beserk when they scored in the 2nd quarter with their last TD that took so long to decide from the Command Centre? I thought that female ref should have thrown a objectable/unsportsman penalty on him.
HC Mark Killam is pretty animated, a bit strange to see one of the league's younger coaches so unhinged, when the older coaches are mellowing out.
It was an obvious touchdown that took forever to call. The female ref was on the line and he was mad she should have called the TD which is fair but she couldn't find the ball nor could the umpire so CC had to make the call
Quote from: The Zipp on June 26, 2026, 05:32:56 PMgood - defence in 2nd half at times, crowd made themselves heard, halftime singer was great, never heard of the guy but has a great voice.
bad/ugly- edmonton should have been able to run the clock down and kick a walk off FG - they botched that possession.
Officiating was bad - didn't cost any team the game but the many times they had to huddle to figure thigs out like the Edmonton TD was a joke
First half defence looked lost - literally didn't know where to go.
Losing two in a row at home - terrible...
offensive play calling - meh, not trying for a pass to the end zone and maybe getting a PI - dumb
turnovers
not throwing into the end zone on the last play was mind boggling. Demski didn't have a prayer of scoring after catching the ball at the 15. Their D kept the receivers in front of them and basically set the trap for Demski.
Have all hands on deck go deep and even if you don't complete it there's always a chance of a PI in the end zone giving us the ball at the one YL.
We were well within striking distance so why not throw a hail Mary??
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on June 29, 2026, 03:31:10 AMnot throwing into the end zone on the last play was mind boggling.
They got close enough you didn't even need a hail. They should have been taking 2-3 shots to the corner fade or rear post, timing rainbows where only our REC could make the play and do the toe-tap. Once they got to around the 45. Zach's arm can do 2 55-60's if called upon and he can get set properly. And with a big arc you can even throw pretty early to avoid the pressure. Timing has to be perfect though, and we haven't seen that from Zach/O in forever.
It doesn't matter if every DB is playing way deep if you're doing that corner or back of EZ. If they knock our REC early it's DPI.
Yes, fully agreed, dunking yourself into a loss was the biggest anti-climax ever. No other team would have done that.
BAD:
Castillo: I'm not too bummed or down on him quite yet for missing a few already, because... remember his start in '25 (or was it '24?) when the "chipped balls" (wink wink) had him miss an alarming number of kicks?
He solved that pretty quick, after a few games that year. Let's assume he'll do the same this year.
honestly not a big Castillo fan. Get the team likes him, he can make long field goals and is great for the social media team but he also misses kicks he should make and very well cost us this game (while taking up a DI spot)
Heading into 2026, the most accurate kickers in CFL history from inside 40 yards are:
1. 97.3% Justin Medlock
2. 96.5% Sergio Castillo
3. 95.3% Marc Liegghio
Castillo is making the field goals he should make
Career FG percentage adjusted for distance:
1. 88.7% Justin Medlock
2. 88.3% Sergio Castillo
3. 88.2% Jose Maltos Diaz
Percentage of kicks from 40+ (Career)
1. 45.6% Sergio Castillo
2. 42.2% David Cote
3. 41.1% Brett Lauther
Kickers who try more kicks from long range (40+) tend to have their actual FG% skewed to the lower side. Adjusted FG% is a better representation of these kickers.
For the Edmonton game, Coach O'Shea stated that Castillo made from 60 going both ways in warm up. His 3 attempts during the game were from 49 (miss), 50 (miss) & 53 (made).
I was in Kelowna on the weekend and I saw Sean Whyte hit the crossbar from 50 in one direction (from a kicking stick) and hit the crossbar from 49 in the other direction (snap & hold). There is a possibility that Sean Whyte doesn't attempt any of the 3 kicks that Sergio attempted.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on June 30, 2026, 04:45:26 PMHeading into 2026, the most accurate kickers in CFL history from inside 40 yards are:
1. 97.3% Justin Medlock
2. 96.5% Sergio Castillo
3. 95.3% rc LiegghioMa
Castillo is making the field goals he should make
Career FG percentage adjusted for distance:
1. 88.7% Justin Medlock
2. 88.3% Sergio Castillo
3. 88.2% Jose Maltos Diaz
Percentage of kicks from 40+ (Career)
1. 45.6% Sergio Castillo
2. 42.2% David Cote
3. 41.1% Brett Lauther
Kickers who try more kicks from long range (40+) tend to have their actual FG% skewed to the lower side. Adjusted FG% is a better representation of these kickers.
For the Edmonton game, Coach O'Shea stated that Castillo made from 60 going both ways in warm up. His 3 attempts during the game were from 49 (miss), 50 (miss) & 53 (made).
I was in Kelowna on the weekend and I saw Sean Whyte hit the crossbar from 50 in one direction (from a kicking stick) and hit the crossbar from 49 in the other direction (snap & hold). There is a possibility that Sean Whyte doesn't attempt any of the 3 kicks that Sergio attempted.
Yep, lot's of accurate kickers that don't attempt FG's beyond 50 yds, including Paredes in Calgary. I believe Liegghio's longest FG is 53 yds.
Quote from: dd on June 26, 2026, 02:37:04 PMNo, he's a tight end that fumbles the ball!
That fumble was not something I would put a lot of concern into. I think he as being young, and feeling his oats, and tried that hurdle whish cause him to lose the ball.
He will NOT be hurdling again, that was a one time learning experience.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 30, 2026, 09:39:16 PMThat fumble was not something I would put a lot of concern into. I think he as being young, and feeling his oats, and tried that hurdle whish cause him to lose the ball.
He will NOT be hurdling again, that was a one time learning experience.
Other than that fumble he looked good, happy to see them using him as a checkdown. Noticed Brady sneaking out into the flats a few times when he should have stayed behind to help protect Zach.
I d definitely be using Daniels more, way more. You think any of those DB's and LB's want to mess with that tank?!?! No way, let him punish the defense and soften them up. Take some pressure off of Brady and make the D account for him, which in turn will open things up for Brady. The man is a load.
Quote from: dd on June 30, 2026, 10:51:36 PMI d definitely be using Daniels more, way more. You think any of those DB's and LB's want to mess with that tank?!?! No way, let him punish the defense and soften them up. Take some pressure off of Brady and make the D account for him, which in turn will open things up for Brady. The man is a load.
Quick he isn't and he doesn't look like much of a route runner, but if he can present himself as a big reliable target and gain YAC with enthusiasm, he will become an annoying problem opposing LB's have to cover off, distracting them away from Brady.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 30, 2026, 10:09:11 PMNoticed Brady sneaking out into the flats a few times when he should have stayed behind to help protect Zach.
Brady sneaks out when the numbers favor the OL. If only 4 come and we have 5, Brady will go out. Every team does this. The problem is, and that no one should expect, is that EDM (and other team) pressure has their 4 beat our 5 like 33% of the time. That's pathetic, and the number one reason Zach took so many hits, and a huge contributor to why we lost the game.
And now if Wallace will be out vs HAM, it'll be another pathetic poop show. I say use the ratio to go 4 IMP OL if Wallace is out. Elsbury at C, Vant at LG.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 30, 2026, 09:39:16 PMThat fumble was not something I would put a lot of concern into. I think he as being young, and feeling his oats, and tried that hurdle whish cause him to lose the ball.
That's the "each rookie will lose you 1 game" effect to a T.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 30, 2026, 09:39:16 PMHe will NOT be hurdling again, that was a one time learning experience.
Hurdling isn't the problem. So many do it, and like booth said, if DBs are forced to take you low because you're so beefy, just jump over them.
No, the problem is holding the ball 3' away from your body when you do it! Jump all you want, just put the ball where it belongs. Preferably with 2 arms.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on June 30, 2026, 04:45:26 PMHeading into 2026, the most accurate kickers in CFL history from inside 40 yards are:
Thanks for the good stats. Nice to see WFC usually gets quality kickers.
The problem with the law of large numbers though, is that even with superb overall stats, he'll miss 1, 2 or 3 on a night when you need those to win. Can't really control that. Murphy's law.
Just as long as he doesn't get the yips and go full H<20 more letters with lots of J's> (yes, I know H<...> is kind of a "star" now, but the point remains).