seems odd that Naylor would be reporting this:
The @Wpg_BlueBombers have been granted permission to speak to @TorontoArgos QB coach Mike Miller about their OC position. Miller remains a candidate for the @TorontoArgos head coaching position. #CFL #Argos
Hogan is still the OC, so why ask permission to interview someone else. Miller was in contention last season for the position as well.
is something brewing?
Interesting but it could mean just about anything. Hogan could be on his way out or being moved to a different role.
IMO it's reasonable to think we'll see some changes in the ranks. I don't know if Jackson will be back. Hall might be considering retirement? Younger may be a candidate elsewhere.
Lots of moving parts and no certainty at the moment.
Not knowing what the coaching SMS looks like or allows us to consider is a wait and see. O'Shea probably got more and some may have to give in a re-shuffling of chairs.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 24, 2025, 04:44:23 PMis something brewing?
I hope it's Hogan's imminent departure.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 24, 2025, 04:44:23 PMseems odd that Naylor would be reporting this:
The @Wpg_BlueBombers have been granted permission to speak to @TorontoArgos QB coach Mike Miller about their OC position. Miller remains a candidate for the @TorontoArgos head coaching position. #CFL #Argos
Hogan is still the OC, so why ask permission to interview someone else. Miller was in contention last season for the position as well.
is something brewing?
I'm not a fan of Naylor, so I would be perfectly fine with believing he's stirring the hornet's nest if he was reporting we we're planning on asking permission; but, the permission being "granted" means it's probably true.
I wanted Mike Miller for OC last year so this would be a pretty good get, imo. He had a hand in making MBT, Kelly, and Arbuckle look pretty competent.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 24, 2025, 04:44:23 PMseems odd that Naylor would be reporting this:
The @Wpg_BlueBombers have been granted permission to speak to @TorontoArgos QB coach Mike Miller about their OC position. Miller remains a candidate for the @TorontoArgos head coaching position. #CFL #Argos
Hogan is still the OC, so why ask permission to interview someone else. Miller was in contention last season for the position as well.
is something brewing?
You'd think Ed Tait would have the skinny but expecting the team to address these moves in a forthright manner is expecting too much. Sounds like Hogan is gonzo or going back to position coach if he wants to stick around. Not sure the team got much value out of Jackson but never know, we'll see if they interview him for the OC job.
Well I sure hope someone had a chat with Hogan..would suck to open twitter and see a bunch of tweets that your team has been granted permission to talk to someone about filling your role. Nobody deserves that..
Hope so. Wasn't Miller a special teams guy in Winnipeg after he retired as a player.
Quote from: DM83 on November 24, 2025, 06:42:41 PMHope so. Wasn't Miller a special teams guy in Winnipeg after he retired as a player.
Nope. This is a different Mike Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(gridiron_football_coach%2C_born_1970)).
Aren't these guys under Contract for a calendar year?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 24, 2025, 05:46:10 PMYou'd think Ed Tait would have the skinny but expecting the team to address these moves in a forthright manner is expecting too much.
Would this be something that Tait would break (or even speculate) though, now that he's on the Bombers payroll?
Quote from: Stretch on November 24, 2025, 07:39:10 PMWould this be something that Tait would break (or even speculate) though, now that he's on the Bombers payroll?
If they're looking for Hogan's replacement already, it makes sense to announce he's being replaced first.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 24, 2025, 08:09:44 PMIf they're looking for Hogan's replacement already, it makes sense to announce he's being replaced first.
I'm sure he's been told if that's what they're planning.
Doesn't mean they want to announce anything yet.
you wonder how these things even get out. When it effects other members of the organization youd think they would keep a lid on it. Also perhaps Miller has been given some options which havent been solidified yet.
I imagine now that its been leaked Tait will have a comment
Quote from: Pete on November 24, 2025, 08:23:01 PMyou wonder how these things even get out. When it effects other members of the organization youd think they would keep a lid on it. Also perhaps Miller has been given some options which havent been solidified yet.
I imagine now that its been leaked Tait will have a comment
The leak may have come from the Argo's camp, nobody on the Bomber end brave enough to upset MOS.
Farhan reporting that Tommy Condell is in the mix for the OC position
https://x.com/FarhanLaljiTSN/status/1993069439643009485?t=9lsvXIv_da-06Qr1Y1lh7g&s=19 (https://x.com/FarhanLaljiTSN/status/1993069439643009485?t=9lsvXIv_da-06Qr1Y1lh7g&s=19)
So if this is true does Brody have anything to do with the OC change a bit?
I'm glad we're looking to improve the OC position.
I'm sure Hogan was told that he won't be back. Unlike waiting around for months last year we seem to be doing something about it early now.
Good sign.
The brass are listening to fans and/or players. This is good news. Or perhaps Osh just saw how bad it really was. Either way, I'm glad it's happening. I will get my hopes up when someone is signed though. Since Condell has worked with ZC8 before, that may be the way to go.
What a totally CFL thing to happen.
Our OC and STC both named Mike Miller?
Will one have to change his name, like Ottawa had to when we had two Rough Riders?
Quote from: Stats Junkie on November 24, 2025, 08:39:36 PMFarhan reporting that Tommy Condell is in the mix for the OC position
Uh, didn't we all learn our lesson about not trusting the pundits? Remember how they swore MOS was gonzo to TOR?
Oh ya, hard pass on Condell -- the dual GC loser of '19 and '21. He might get you to the cup, but he'll choke in the big game.
Quote from: theaardvark on Today at 05:54:22 AMWhat a totally CFL thing to happen.
Our OC and STC both named Mike Miller?
And when '19 and '21 cups had Mike Jones covering Mike Jones?
The moral of the story: DON'T NAME YOUR KIDS MIKE! Voila, problem solved.
There were 2 Greg Marshall's coaching in the CFL. One (dlineman ) is currently with the Argos, the other (running back) is HC of the Western Mustangs.
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 08:45:30 AMUh, didn't we all learn our lesson about not trusting the pundits? Remember how they swore MOS was gonzo to TOR?
Oh ya, hard pass on Condell -- the dual GC loser of '19 and '21. He might get you to the cup, but he'll choke in the big game.
our head coach has "choked" in the big game as well.
i would prefer Miller to Condell but that is just me
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 08:45:30 AMOh ya, hard pass on Condell -- the dual GC loser of '19 and '21. He might get you to the cup, but he'll choke in the big game.
That 21 game was as close as you can get. I don't blame Condell for a "choke". An inch here or there was the difference. It was our defense at it's best and we got all we could handle that day.
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 08:45:30 AMOh ya, hard pass on Condell -- the dual GC loser of '19 and '21. He might get you to the cup, but he'll choke in the big game.
Yikes... With a pretty questionable take like this, it makes me wonder what you think about Buck Pierce.
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Quote from: DM83 on November 24, 2025, 06:42:41 PMHope so. Wasn't Miller a special teams guy in Winnipeg after he retired as a player.
Yeah, weird choice as QC, if they choose him. Kind of makes no sense.
Quote from: peg_city on Today at 01:37:54 PMYeah, weird choice as QC, if they choose him. Kind of makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense when you realize it's this Mike Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(gridiron_football_coach%2C_born_1970)) and not this Mike Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(Canadian_football)). Two different individuals.
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 08:45:30 AMUh, didn't we all learn our lesson about not trusting the pundits? Remember how they swore MOS was gonzo to TOR?
Oh ya, hard pass on Condell -- the dual GC loser of '19 and '21. He might get you to the cup, but he'll choke in the big game.
Absolutely do not trust opinions or predictions. They come from a very biased place that inherently does not believe in the CFL.
But they do have league contacts. So when they report that something has already happened, like a team giving permission to speak to a coach, it's pretty trustworthy.
On Condell and Miller:
If we've talked to both, the smart money might be on Condell. Part of the problem this year was going with inexperience. You combine the fact the Condell's done it before along with the fact that he is Zach's favourite person in the CFL, and there might be too strong a connection to ignore.
Worth noting both Condell and Collaros were with the Ti-Cats in 2014 and 2015. That familiarity could be helpful.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on Today at 01:44:18 PMIt makes perfect sense when you realize it's this Mike Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(gridiron_football_coach%2C_born_1970)) and not this Mike Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(Canadian_football)). Two different individuals.
Ohhh, I thought it was Mike Miller the basketball player
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(basketball,_born_1980)
Quote from: peg_city on Today at 01:59:29 PMOhhh, I thought it was Mike Miller the basketball player
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(basketball,_born_1980)
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Quote from: Jesse on Today at 01:48:23 PMAbsolutely do not trust opinions or predictions. They come from a very biased place that inherently does not believe in the CFL.
But they do have league contacts. So when they report that something has already happened, like a team giving permission to speak to a coach, it's pretty trustworthy.
On Condell and Miller:
If we've talked to both, the smart money might be on Condell. Part of the problem this year was going with inexperience. You combine the fact the Condell's done it before along with the fact that he is Zach's favourite person in the CFL, and there might be too strong a connection to ignore.
Different motivations, Condell likely out of a job in Ottawa with Dinwiddie's arrival, while Mike Miller is interviewing for the HC job in T.O.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on Today at 01:54:33 PMWorth noting both Condell and Collaros were with the Ti-Cats in 2014 and 2015. That familiarity could be helpful.
To note, when Condell and Zach worked together 2014-15 the Ti-Cats went 9-9 and 10-8 under HC Kent Austin.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:40:47 PMTo note, when Condell and Zach worked together 2014-15 the Ti-Cats went 9-9 and 10-8 under HC Kent Austin.
They also went to the Grey Cup in 2014 and played a hard-fought East Final a year later, albeit in a losing effort. Collaros also didn't play in that game due to a season-ending injury in September of that season.
FWIW, Collaros' stats were solid during those two seasons (101.9 QBR in 25 regular season games). I'm curious if a reunion between him and Condell would be positive, particularly for Collaros.
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 08:46:24 AMAnd when '19 and '21 cups had Mike Jones covering Mike Jones?
The moral of the story: DON'T NAME YOUR KIDS MIKE! Voila, problem solved.
Terrible, horrible take. The worst yet.
No mention of Jarious Jackson as an option?
Most of us wondered why that simply wasn't the case this year. Hindsight is meaningless here but it's not hard to imagine that maybe our offense would have been better under the watch of an extremely experienced CFL coach and former player. I most certainly wouldn't be opposed if he were in the running.